/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #361

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>>143377158
back where she belongs

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>>143377513
Tradition is unimportant. Kate's family is not part of the KKK!

>>143377617
the little sister looks a lot like young chloe...

So, think we'll hear any news when E3 rolls around?

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>>143377617
Then why is she friends with Nathan?

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>>143377119
Before Episode 5's release:

>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:

>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!) (thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't doe,or butterfly,bluejay or even shit.
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's Chloe just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it.
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget

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>>143377119
Eventually I will put together a flowchart of similar music, like the /mu/ ones. Got a few ideas working, but to busy to do anything with them.

If you want to contribute, please contact me on steam, or reply to this post.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198048865860

Thanks to photoshopgril for putting together the background image and the second chart,
polaroidgril for assembling the album covers/artist names/etc. onto the background image,
Dr. Zaius for helping in general.

I have a torrent of all the games music, Morali's OST, the Vortex Club party, all the licensed songs (most in lossless format), and all the albums they were taken from.

Magnet link:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4AF55CE2E1F48771E92E4CCE8E92156EC6A96152&dn=various+artists+life+is+strange+ost+2015&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.me%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337

I will be seeding this for the foreseeable future, so even if it says no seeds, leave it up long enough, and I'll come online. PC can't be on 24/7, you know?

https://kat.cr/various-artists-life-is-strange-ost-2015-t11495485.html

Alternative download on MEGA, if you get it from here, please add the files to your torrent folder to facilitate easier downloads for others.

https://mega.nz/#F!LtpkTbhD!hjUsXMHSdmQTvzYFz3H7_w

Spotify playlist of the licensed music here:
https://play.spotify.com/user/pieisablessing2me/playlist/0hlcayMf9otvePDw2MZ6qk
It's better than the official one. Really.

FLAC rip of official OST from the limited edition, courtesy of polaroidgril.

https://mega.nz/#!GxISxYjC!__ao7xDyUPLOXwxHJxmtK_-cN2n4gDXNCgAaY7tDPRQ

>>143377865
Maybe after Nathan gets the help he needs he can profusely apologize to Kate and they can be friends

>>143377856
There will definitely be lots of new info about Vampyr, but LiS2 is probably too early for any news. Maybe an announcement of S2 being in development, maybe at most even a logo or one piece of concept art, but nothing more.

If we're light on S2 news, are we going to embrace Vampyr and become a dontnod general?

>>143378283
>dontnod general
Would there be many people interested in it?

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can anyone post the full info on this???

I'm in Chicago and want to go.

>>143378650
Not currently. Maybe if Vampyr starts generating discussion and appearing on other boards (Like LiS originally did) we can put it to a vote. But even then I'm sure the majority of posts would be about LiS instead of Remember Me or Vampyr.

>>143377513
Sin!

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>>143378283
>are we going to embrace Vampyr

wut

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>>143379070
>Dontnod/Vampyr general

Wow sounds so exciting.
Everybody will love it

>>143378283
>we're going to embrace vampyr

vampyr will be the flop of the century though. it'll be shit

>>143378968
If you go please save S2 from Mari, anon. We believe in you!

>>143378283
>>143379070

>making a thread for Dontnod and for their twilight simulator 2017

Just stay here anons it's isn't really worth it.

>>143378968
anon, do me a favor and cunt punch mari into a coma

it's the only way

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>>143378968
I checked the twitter to see if there was any info. Nope, but I did find this incredibly tasteful joke.

>>143379726
It would be DOTNOD General, so maybe /dndg/.
It's all speculation. I think, and hope, /lisg/ stays as is for a long time.

>>143380472
What the fuck. I went through some more and it gets even worse
>The Storm: Swiggity sway I'm commin' for the Bay/ Bae
>The butterfly: Storm summoner (THIS PROVES IT'S NOT MAX'S FAULT. IT WAS THAT WINGED FUCKER)
>Jeffershi- (okay, lol)
And Chloe's has a caption saying: "Be honest, how many tries did it take to land on Chloe"
https://twitter.com/LifeIsStrange/status/732614187449454593

>>143380793
>The butterfly: Storm summoner (THIS PROVES IT'S NOT MAX'S FAULT. IT WAS THAT WINGED FUCKER)

>Storm's still coming in Bay end confirmed

we all knew it. that little shit was harbinger of disaster

>>143377332
this is getting out of hand

>>143381040
Well the storm already happened so it can't get much worse. Maybe in the sequel we
ll get a chance to crush a blue butterfly and prevent it from causing any more trouble.

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>>143380472
>hide & seek champ. 2013
>tfw french cucks are making fun of the girl who's got killed by a disney villain and his mentally ill apprentice and her corpse got rotten in junkyard. like these weren't enough french cucks fucked her story

Rachel's Revenge when?

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>>143381573
>so it can't get much worse

>>143381774
rachel's revenge was the storm

>>143380472
DONTOND FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVCK

Ok, I'm ok again. Please don't post their tasteless twitter shit here anymore. It's not that it isn't somewhat funny at times, or that I would be "offended" by jokes about the characters even though I like them so much. It's just so unbelievable to me that the creators would make these kinds of jokes, and do so not only publically, but as part of a PR campaign. I will so not pay for Season 2. Paying would mean my money directly provide the food that one of them eats, that gives them the biochemical energy to think thoughts and operate their bodies to puke them onto twitter. I am not enabling that.

Ridiculousness aside, I really hope some of you guys here are Chicagoans and tell them how badly they fucked up with Episode 5. Especiallly how they lost their character-focus and with that the primary appeal of their game. Praise them for their characters - rip them apart for ripping their characters apart. They wouldn't be asking for feedback in such a setting if they weren't looking for criticism.

>>143381774
Dontnod's bankruptcy, and Michel have to imagine food, will be Rachel's revenge

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>>143380472
palm urself toby

>>143382420
That's why I was trying to find info about the event, but I've had no luck. Even though I'm not in Chicago it would be good to get someone there who could (politely) voice the consensus of /lisg/ that Episode 5 was a disaster and ignored what made the rest of the game great.

>>143382748
>trying to talk *politely* while looking at Michel's and french hacks' faces

man that's impossible

>>143378968
I'm trying to look for it too with no luck.

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>Come across a post about "Lesbian game trinity"
>Life is strange, Overwatch and Love is Strange
>Wtf is 'Love is Strange'?
>Look it up. VN set in sort of alternate Life is Strange universe?
>Download it, give it a go.
>Never read a VN before so I just sort of click shit and go with it.
>End up on Kate story
>Perfect girl, perfect town, perfect emotions, perfect lives
>Realise I'm wasting my youth
>Existential Crisis, will never live such a good life

Visual Novels. Not even once, never again.

Chicagobros here's the full email

https://xmail.square-enix.com/fe/view/nofilef4rupo/ae3e91ee0bf07a8241cd2bc6663c9d1d/522/en/email.html/eyJ1c2VyIjp7ImxhbmciOiJlbiIsImNvdW50cnkiOiJVUyIsImxvY2FsZSI6ImVuX1VTIiwiZXh0cmEiOiJwUzRRMFI1SDdpM0xNdEtnNENaRWVneWkzdXJ3U2Z3VnJHcTZTWjNuTGpHOHR2azZLOTgycjNoSkhMbDAyeHVNIn19

Do us proud (and please be constructive and don't throw an autistic hissy fit)

>>143384367
Good work, anon.
And best of luck to those that end up going.

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>>143383636
>Lesbian game
>Overwatch

Sucks that the LiSVN made you feel that way.

>>143384367
>Places are limited so we can't take anyone.
>inb4 plebbit only

See?

>>143383636

Yeah.
Never play VNs, man.
Never.

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>>143384772
I hope one of you guys make it in. ;; You know they saved a special seat for Mari.

>>143384367
Fuck that. I can't do it. I can't talk with them nicely.

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>>143384367
Make /lisg/ proud Chicago anons!

>>143384812
I learned the hard way, yeah.

>>143384552
It's not so much that the Visual Novel itself made me feel that way, more the way I process escapism. When I was younger I used to love daydreaming and imagining myself in tons of cool situations. Nowadays if I imagine something I just immediately tell myself how it will never happen and that real life is harsh. Depressing man, growing up sucks.

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This is beautiful.

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>>143386741
>couldn't capture warryn's real expression

fix'd

>>143386047
Hey man, at least you didn't actually find that daydream a reality and then had to give it all up again or else let a tornado ravage your hometown!

Sucks that you grew to process escapism like that, then. I still am grateful for just the experience of imaginative escapism itself. Although I don't do it through Visual Novels neither. Actual novels instead.

Do you at least enjoy the escape experience itself and only afterwards the depressing realization kicks in, or is it just not enjoyable to begin with anymore?

>>143386741
>no Alice

>>143387246
>daydream a reality and then had to give it all up again
What fool did this?

>>143387246
When I'm in it I get really involved and I can enjoy escapism when it comes to games and normal novels. But I don't know, I think the visual novel having some form of combination between the two was different. With games they don't deal with emotions or real life issues in a way that affects me. Novels have the detachment of no real visual aid, that and I haven't read any novels that depict perfect environments. Everyone in this VN was just so happy, and life was perfect. Fucked with me because I can't have that and let myself become involved in it.

>>143386741
Why does Jefferson look more upset?

>>143388523
Because he knows that she's going to the Dark Room soon

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>>143388523
Because he was tired of her trying to ride his dick.
I don't even know why he captured her in the end. He goes on about how he only takes the pure and innocent into the Dark Room but then he took Rachel and Victoria. Shit makes no sense.

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Sixty posts in and no Pricefield. Fixing that.

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Here's the info for the Chicago thing. All the link does is start an email

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>>143387605
Makes sense.

Obviously I don't want to suggest to play more of it, but the other routes are decidedly more problematic, i. e. less perfect. I haven't played the Kate route, which I imagine is pretty sweet. But Chloe, Rachel and Victoria all have more grim themes. Then again, they all also still very much are positive in tone and definitely something you could be upset about not having in your own life.

>>143389108
It's likely that Nathan did Rachel. Jefferson for all we know just found her attractive and was fucking her and she in love with and posing for him. According to him, Nathan tried to replicate his "art" on Rachel, killed her in the process and then Jefferson "cleaned up" after him - taking those shots of them in the process, maybe even keeping Rachel's dying a secret from Nathan.

As for Victoria. Yeah, doesn't make much sense in terms of his vision. He talks about loss of youth and people that carry their hopes and dreams for everyone to see. Victoria is not a monster and does have something corruptible at her core, but that doesn't really show, and everyone really at his core is human and breakable. Then he could just take in anyone and his vision is just thin blabla. Makes just as little sense as him only going for girls. In the end he was just a perv, I guess, and his "vision" rant just self-important denial of the fact that he is just a washed-up clown whose "art" nobody cares about anymore.

>>143390952
Max on a box. Cute.

I don't take Jefferson's word regarding what happened to Rachel as much.
As far as things between Rachel and Jefferson go, they probably slept together but that seems Rachel using what she has to get what she wants. Which in this case is Jefferson's attention so that he could help her become a model and get the money to leave Arcadia Bay (With or without Chloe depending on hos genuine you think she was).
Where Jefferson decided to kill Rachel was if she threatened to reveal the Dark Room and/or if she started becoming too close to Nathan and possibly threatened Jefferson's control over him or caused Jefferson to become jealous. It would be Jefferson manipulating Nathan to an extreme extent and making him kill one of his friends, and then making him believe it was an accident. Even though Jefferson says it was all Nathan's fault, there's photos of Nathan where he's either posing (And would be unable to take the pictures) or he's been drugged as well so that when he comes to Jefferson can tell him whatever version of events he wants.

>>143391838
>Max on a box. Cute.
Max has to stand on a chair to get things out of the cupboard!

>>143390740
Thank you! registered.

>>143377119
Nice visuals. Nice music (though I hate the genre). Nice voice acting.

One of the worst pieces of writing for an interactive drama ever. Terrible story. Terrible dialogue. Terrible plot threads. Terrible characters.

I can accept the idea that people can withstand all that terrible shit above because the really love the nice stuff mentioned in the 1st paragraph...

But it saddens me that some people are so retarded that they genuinely love the terrible stuff.

>>143392997
It's a foot stool, there's a difference!
She hasn't needed an actual chair since she and Chloe were kids trying to get snacks off the top of the fridge.

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>>143391838
There's annoyingly little information about the circumstances of Rachel's death (especially considering how central it was to the entire plot up until then, and story overall), but we have no reason to believe Jefferson would lie about the stuff he says. He says Rachel was in love with him and Rachel's letter - which admittedly fits Frank or even Nathan way better than Jefferson - as well as Chloe's "she said she met someone that changed her life" indicate the same. When Max asked whether Rachel posed for him, he answers that what they had was special and that her death was a tragedy. That "L.A. would have killed her" anyways. Meaning he had no intention to prevent her from leaving, and was genuinely upset about her death.

Plus the photos show her in a lucid, scared and furious state. The exact opposite of what Jefferson is trying to accomplish.

Like I said, it seems obvious Nathan really did try to replicate Jefferson on Rachel, accidentally killed her because he isn't familiar with the dosages, and then Jefferson cleaned up after him, taking the shots of them both in the process (the shots of Nathan and her show up in Jefferson's part of the nightmare maze), possibly having drugged Nathan as well (Nathan's eyes are opened in one and closed in the other version) in order to confuse him about what happened. Nathan could have been inclined to hand himself over after that after all, and by making him believe that Rachel didn't die he could have prevented that; Nathan's "Rachel in the Dark Room" craziness then stemming from his uncertainty as to her whereabouts and his mistrust of what Jefferson is telling him. Although the latter part is obviously going considerably beyond canon.

>>143393087
Great atmosphere building, endearing dialogue, brilliantly authentic characters for all we did get of them. Opinions, obviously.

>>143392997
Chloe can always lift her up!

>>143393087
Disagree on 'terrible characters' (besides Warren and the pantomime villain Jefferson morphed into), but agree with everything else. The dialogue had an odd charm once you got used to it, but then I'm not American. The awful plot writing destroyed everything.

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70 posts in and no Marshfield. There goes that

>>143380472

What the actual fuck, Dontnod. I'm pretty sure that was originally a fucking Anne Frank joke. Congratulations on aping the mockery of a dead 12 year old who was hunted down by Nazis to make light of an innocent 18 year old who was killed by a shithead and then once more by the narrative. Real classy.
They really have zero social awareness, don't they? Weird coming from people who created such nice atmosphere. This just feels like desperate pandering attempts.

>>143380793
STOP RUINING MEMES DONTNOD

>>143390740

Isn't this the day of E3?

>>143382420

We should counterattack and do our own PR consultation with chicagofriends on what they should say to have the biggest chance of sinking in

do we actually have pictures of Mary?

>>143385220

So yell at them, someone else can be the polite one. We'll come at them from every angle!

>>143394396
>Weird coming from people who created such nice atmosphere.
Well, this is from our beloved community manager Toby, who had no hand in creating the game.

>>143386741

That's so fucking cute

>>143395025
Why do we get so stupid community managers! What qualifies them? Did anybody here watch the podcast with this Toby guy? Did he even play the game?

It's like none of the people behind the scenes are truly passionate about the game or its characters. Having the story be overly tragic and plublic-relation professionalism is one thing, making these jokes and being so detached from what it is people love about your game another. As a community manager I would be encouraging in-depth discussion like we have had here all the time, and cutepost hard on my twitter. Why are they so boring!

>>143395846
>What qualifies them?
He apparently has a masters degree in History, and has been working for SE for a couple of years.
It's not like the SE staff are fans of the game. It's a job, they play the shit they're assigned to so they have a basic understanding of it, and then have a set rulebook of social media things to post to 'engage' with fans.

To qualify it's basically 'can you type fluent english?', 'do you have average graphic design skills?', 'can you use twitter/facebook etc competently?', 'can you pretend to be enthusiastic about something you don't really like that much?', 'can you go to parties and introduce yourself and the product to people without spilling your spaghetti?'

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>>143396975
I have no illusions about the reality of the work that even storytelling in any form at the end of the day is. But the goddamn community manager could at least be a little enthusiastic and inspired and not make tasteless jokes.

Whatever, I've got /lisg/.

>>143396975
>and then have a set rulebook of social media things to post to 'engage' with fans
That's the part they're completely fucking up

>Wake up and check lisg
>Find that Mari and plebbit fans from Chicago could influence S2
This isn't looking like such a great morning.

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>>143398740
It suck.

>>143398740
Reminder that Mari is already in direct contact with the devs and has been for a long time. The Chicago factor makes no difference.

>>143400662
Car poop anon, you know what to do.

>>143377119
Chloe doesn't look very fertile to me.

Do you guys think she would be able to lay eggs at an acceptable rate?

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>>143400947
Don't start that again.

>>143401074
It's an honest question.

She's cute but I don't want to waste my time with her if she can't make babies.

>>143384367
>and please be constructive and don't throw an autistic hissy fit
Yes, don't fuck this up, guys.

>>143398740
>>143400662
What could Mari even do to Season 2?

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Michel is a mean person!

>>143402173
Michel was just trying to teach you a lesson about growing up. :)

>>143402086
>Mari allowed to influence season 2 development
>Season two protagonist walks up to bathroom sink, starts reaching for a toothbrush.
>"N-no!"
>turns around and runs away crying

>>143403561
The lesson is, if you are in a position to save someone's life, you shouldn't. Doing so stunts your growth as a person.

>>143393597
So then why did Nathan try to replicate Jefferson's work once again with Chloe?
Jefferson was at least around when Rachel died unless Nathan was able to almost perfectly replicate his shots and use a timer to get himself in some (The ones of him and Rachel in the junkyard).
If he already fucked up and killed Rachel, why did he think it was a good idea to try the same to Chloe? Granted since this is all opinion and speculation it's partially just me wanting to believe that Nathan wasn't that crazy. Plus at some point he must have revolted against Jefferson or outlived any usefulness since Jefferson decided to kill him before he was caught and blabbed. My guess for that is that Nathan discovered Jefferson was after Victoria and tried to prevent it.
So little explained for such a large plot point.

>>143402173
Michel is an ass!

>Everyone hating Michel for creating this game
You guys have some fucked up logic but then I'm not surprised since you guys chose the to scarifice a town for just one person.

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>>143406925
Kate is not a chicken. She does not lay eggs. None of the girls do.

>>143407323
Is that you Dan Green?

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>>143407323
jefferson, plz.

>>143404223
Not that guy, but I'm certain Nathan photographed Rachel under Jefferson's guidance, whether her death was a genuine accident or Jefferson's intention.
There's no indication that the two had photographed anyone else together prior to Rachel, so it seems ridiculous that Nathan would go out on his own with something he hasn't even participated in up to that point, especially considering how much it obviously disturbs him. In that cut letter to Jefferson, Nathan also apologises for fucking it up which suggests he had guidance, and expresses a desire to go back to their 'old projects' (which could refer to the dark room, but seems more likely to me to refer to normal photography projects that Jefferson used to gain Nathan's trust).

Nathan just so clearly misunderstands Jefferson's whole motivation, because he's not in it for the same reasons. All he wants is Jefferson's approval, having to participate in hurting people to get it is just the trade off. Going after Jefferson's fucktoy on his own completely flies in the face of that, it just doesn't make any sense to me.
Especially when, once he DOES go out on his own with Chloe (who is not Jefferson's type in any way, thus Nathan not understanding his motives), he does so in the comfort of his dorm room rather than doing it properly. That makes zero sense if he already dark room'd Rachel on his own, then shortly afterwards dark rooms Kate under Jefferson's guidance. If he was already using the dark room on his own, there was nothing stopping him from doing so. But Kate's being targeted shows he needs Jefferson for that.

>>143404223
>why did Nathan try to replicate Jefferson's work once again with Chloe?
Why not? He had her in his room. His obsession is his own; look at Nathan's room, his photos.

>almost perfectly replicate his shots and use a timer to get himself in some
But I explained this there. Nathan didn't perfectly replicate his shots at all; Rachel is awake and afraid in them. Nathan then presumably gave her another dose because of it. It was too much, she's gone, then follow the shots of her with her eyes closed, mouth open, something on her mouth (drool, overdose froth) that Max comments on. Jefferson sees what is going on, drugs Nathan, takes the pics of him and Rachel in the junkyard (either for artistic purposes or to frame/have leverage against Nathan), buries Rachel and then either tells Nathan what happened or - and this is what I assume - keeps the truth from him, says Rachel has gone away. Nathan goes crazy about it because he doesn't know what happened and doesn't trust Jefferson. Possibly that's how he got further involved with David too, assigning him with finding Rachel.

>If he already fucked up and killed Rachel, why did he think it was a good idea to try the same to Chloe?
It's possible he didn't know about Rachel, but regardless, we know Nathan is that crazy. From a cut note we know that he was the one that wanted to do more after Jefferson told him stay off. And he's crazy to do Chloe and Kate regardless of whether he knew about or was himself responsible for Rachel's death or not.

Victoria could have to do with it, but Jefferson says he wanted to get rid of Nathan ever since he fucked up with Rachel, and with Max and Chloe discovering their secret now he has to take action, has to silence them - might as well kill Nathan too and use him as a scapegoat.

I get that why you'd want Nathan not to have too big a role in it all. But it appears he does, and ultimately Jefferson has no reason to lie to Max in the DR and the voice acting coincides.

>>143408502
Good riddance to the posts that are currently being deleted I say.

>>143408649
I deleted them myself.

After taking a look through this thread I see that you are all nice and kind people and that my shitposting would only hurt more than it would entertain anyone.

Goodbye, I hope you all have a nice day.

>>143408289
Nathan fucked up the dosaging. I highly doubt that would have happened under Jefferson's guidance.

He already had Chloe in his room, transporting her to the Dark Room would not necessarily have been as viable as it had been with Rachel, however that happened (there's even a possibility Rachel even knew about it and hung out there, presumably not knowing about the folders, obviously).

Nathan wanted to get Jefferson's approval and that's why he went out on his own, trying to prove he is ready and can do it. But we also know that Nathan is into the morbid and takes macabre shots all the time himself. He wasn't just the father-seeking puppet.

>>143408649
Yeah I'm not complaining, just reminded me.

>>143408534
I can see how Nathan would try to independently photograph Rachel and Chloe. Perhaps he wanted to impress Jefferson or fulfill his own lust to take such photos since they do match the style he's into.
Nathan thinking Rachel was alive does make sense. When he first sees Max in the diner he first thinks it's Rachel until he looks up and sees the face. It's not a reaction like he's seen a ghost, it's genuine relief. It does also explain why he would try to get in contact with David and the note thanking David for working with Nathan.
Perhaps Rachel's disappearance hurt Nathan as much as it did Chloe, and the two of them were working in their own ways to the common goal of finding her. Maybe it made Nathan go to his father, who saw Rachel's disappearance as trivial, but he had David look into it (which sparked his investigation that eventually leads to the evidence Max and Chloe combine) to try to calm Nathan's nerves some. The whole time Jefferson is trying to hide the truth from him because if Nathan knew he killed Rachel he may turn himself in and lead the Police to Jefferson.

>>143408909
> He wasn't just the father-seeking puppet.
That's pretty much the crux of his entire character.
There's nothing to suggest his macarb interest is anything but Jefferson's effect on him - in fact his sister seems to have a completely opposite expectation of the tone of his work, based on their last interactions.

Jefferson is a ritualistic psychopath with a very specific MO. Nathan's guilt and distress over being involved in no way suggests he had any independent interest in it beyond the fact that it earned him a father figure.

>>143409479
Yeah, that's along the lines of how it works out in my mind. The "Rachel IS HERE" scribble could then be his too, the realization hitting him, possibly even confronting Jefferson about it and getting himself killed in the process.

And hey, for Nathanfriends there is the implication there that he didn't know about Rachel's death, which makes his involvement a lot more bearable, and the implication that he'd have probably turned himself in if he had known that she died that night.

We also know Nathan was (unrequitedly) in love with Rachel, so they probably did hang out, maybe he just invited her to "my father's cool bunker" one day.

Jefferson's story could just be: "You seriously fucked up Nathan. You underdosed Rachel - she remembers everything! I had to pay her a shitton of money and arrange for her to get to L.A. so she'd keep her mouth shut, and you are lucky that girl loves me."

>>143409669
Do you remember what his room looks like? His photography, the montage he leaves for Max. I don't think Nathan wanted to hurt people or had a fascination with any of that. But he had no respect for them either and treated them as photography subjects, like he does Frank's dog, dead birds, etc.
That said, it's obvious he has is deeply conflicted and does know that it is wrong, as he later admits and apologizes for.

>>143410152
>But he had no respect for them either and treated them as photography subjects, like he does Frank's dog, dead birds, etc.
Totally, but Jefferson's influence on that can't be ignored. We don't know what Nathan was like before Jefferson interfered. Being an entitled douchebag bully doesn't automatically suggest one is interested in taking advantage of drugged people. And again, Nathan is shown to be disturbed by what he's participated in, and understands and regrets that it's harmful.
IMO he's very much culpable in Rachel's death, even if it was an accident and even if it was Jefferson's idea. But I just don't buy for a second that Nathan came up with it on his own in any capacity, or that he's so incredibly stupid as to think pulling something like that wouldn't piss Jefferson the fuck off - only to soon after try it again even more sloppily with Chloe, downsizing a ritualistic practice to "eh, whatever's easiest." It just doesn't make sense.

>>143410152
At least there's a slim possibility he survives. Or at least no proof he's dead in the final timeline like leaving Max a final message.
Maybe he and Chloe will meet at some point, she can visit him in the psychiatric hospital, and she can hear his side of the story and perhaps even forgive him once she sees he cared about Rachel as well and just wanted her to be safe.

>>143410812
Don't forget that in addition to Jefferson, Nathan also has to deal with his own father not giving a shit about him and preventing him from getting help. Which is why Nathan turns to Frank for drugs to try to medicate himself or repress what he's done.
Then there's his "Destiny" he's burdened with AKA knowing that Arcadia Bay will be leveled by a Tornado, possibly killing his few friends, which is exactly what his father wants.

>>143411094
>Then there's his "Destiny" he's burdened with
I remember that from the Episode 4 spoiler but there never was any evidence of him being in the know in the game.

>>143410812
No I agree. I don't think Nathan would have ever drugged, abducted and taken shots of people without Jefferson's influence.

I'm just saying he isn't merely puppet; what made him do these things is partly his mental illness, partly Jefferson's influence and Nathan's father complex, partly Nathan's own artistic fascination with the morbid and partly him being an entitled rich kid that doesn't care too much about other people (although deep down he does, that's where the dissonance, the conflict arises).

And I think in the mix of that the idea that he did them all on his own and even pressed on to do Kate (potentially drugging her himself at the party and only then calling Jefferson, meeting him at the gas station as the coordinates show) is pretty reasonable. Isn't that the cliché anyways? The son does rash and reckless things he thinks to try and gain the approval of his father, while completely misunderstanding what his father really wants and doing stuff that doesn't always make much sense.

>>143410890
Yes, there is. We had pretty long posts about that too. Dev intention seem to be he doesn't, but the gist of the conversation is: It is not absolutely impossible for him to still be alive, and so if you choose to believe that that is canonically feasible.

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Night /lesg/

>>143412121
Don't brush your teeth!

>>143412121
Is that a dildo in her hand?

>>143412339
It's a pillow you pervert.

>>143412509
It kind of looks like a penis, don't you agree?

>>143412618
No it doesn't you pervert. Stop shitposting already.

>>143412618
Looks more like a plush whale

>>143412657
I hope you're happy, you've hurt my feelings.

>>143412669
It's too skinny to be a whale, it looks more like a dolphin.

>>143412121
What is she dreaming about?

>>143412821
Retaking the Holy Land in the name of the Lord and Jesus Christ.

>>143412802
It's the end of a pillow

>>143412904
I was thinking she'd be dreaming about something cute like playing with Alice.

>>143413035
Where's your sense of whimsy and wonder?

>>143413087
Yeah well, what can you do? Everybody has those little things about them.

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>>143412339
>>143412509
>>143412618
>>143412669
D- Does Nathan have a collection of whale dildos and he gave one to Kate to make up for his wrongdoings, but she thinks it's a plush whale pillow?

I'm sorry and will delete this post if you want, but the Nathan - dildo - whale chain was just too alluring.

>>143413087
She's a Christian mate, it's all we dream about.

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>>143413331
I'd love to see Kate's family's faces when they visit her and she proudly presents the "whale pillow" that Nathan gave her. Chloe standing in the corner trying to contain uncontrollable laughter, Max shooting her a glare and and pinching her side, apologizing in Chloe's stead saying she swallowed just a sip of water.

This reads like a tumblr comic.

>>143413581
Can she at least retake the Holy Land in a cute fashion?

>>143414131
How else would she do it? She was so timid the Saracens just hand it over mate.

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>>143413885
Kate's not oblivious to adult things. She knows what they are but chooses not to partake in them.
But for the sake of cuteness it's fun to imagine Max and others trying to be PG around her to keep her pure.

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>>143413087
Deus vult
>>143414131
>>143414387
She'll ride on a giant Alice, who will intimidate all that stands before her, to battle. They will scatter and flee, afraid to meet their inevitable fate.

>>143414786
Gloria in excelsis Deo

>>143411262
Michel go away

>>143411556
>potentially drugging her himself at the party and only then calling Jefferson
Doesn't really follow. In the files, Jefferson is unusually in the Two Wales rather than simply being at school/home at that time, which paints a possibility of wanting to be seen in public away from the school, so he's not connected to it at all (considering this is just a story, where little details like that are more significant than they would be IRL), and Nathan's discussion of Kate in the aftermath (insisting he didn't hurt her in cut dialogue, crying over hurting her in the voicemail) pretty firmly suggest it was just a means to the end of getting back in Jefferson's good graces. Not to mention how incredibly highly Jefferson speaks about Kate and that photo shoot in episode 5, how perfectly she fits his type, and their prior teacher/ student relationship that he probably wouldn't have cultivated but for his intention of victimising her later.

>>143414587
...So you are saying Kate doesn't use condoms as "throwaway swimming caps"?

JK obviously, although the thought of Kate obliviously buying condoms while the cashier is wondering why the timid girl with the cross necklace would need them is funny. "Have fun sweetie." - "Thanks, it's the perfect weather to get wet!"

This just made me laugh: http://materwelonz.tumblr.com/post/119723517307/part-5-of-my-life-is-strange-episode-3-playthrough

Eggsanon might like it too.

>>143413331

What do whale penises even look like? I'm sure someone's made dildos of them.

Captcha confirms, it's all red pick up tru- I mean, SUVs.

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>>143414786
Kate and Alice are sweet girls who'd never hurt anyone.

>>143416119
In a way, when everything went perfectly, nobody was hurt. They were drugged, photographed, and released so that when they woke up they had no clue anything happened. It's still fucked up but there was no indication the subjects were physically harmed and the only indication we get of people getting hurt were Rachel from ultimately ODing and Kate being filmed and having some memories that told her something was wrong. Plus Chloe waking up midway through in Nathan's room.
So Jefferson may have told Nathan that nobody was getting hurt, and Nathan believed it, until everything with Rachel happened.

Today was International Missing Children's Day.

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>>143416242
Got to keep Kate pure at all costs.

That also made me laugh, I have a somewhat hard time finding the eggs as well. The part that messed me up the most I think was breaking the lock in the barn in episode 4. It wasn't that difficult of a puzzle but I kept messing one part up.

>>143416696
I did my part by not kidnapping any more children!

>>143416801
I had a lot of trouble with the barn lock too! I had absolutely no problems with the nightmare mirror, though.

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The only eggs Kate can lay are fake Easter eggs.

>>143416465
Just because something doesn't physically harm someone, doesn't mean it's not hurtful. Nathan may be mentally ill, but he's not stupid, he knows they're doing wrong, and admits as much in episode 5. No doubt Jefferson told him it was fine, and Nathan probably tried to believe it, but I don't buy that the voicemail was some last minute realisation, it was a confession. It's never "I didn't mean to," it's just "I didn't do it," or "I didn't want to."
Rachel dies, Chloe freaks out, and Kate tries to kill herself. It's unmistakable that they were being hurt.

>>143416119
True. And they did wait half a year after all to let things blow over, I guess. The partydrug and video thing is still very odd, as is the fact that Nathan had to hurry and get more stuff from Frank. Both things that Jefferson would have not tolerated if he was involved in the planning at all.

Still, whether he initiated it on his own or not, he obviously partook in crazy shit he knew was crazy, and did so not only because he was being manipulated like a puppet. At least without knowing about Rachel we can assume he had an easier time deluding himself that they weren't hurting anyone as >>143416465 suggests. There's still his awed gaze when Kate is on the roof though, and his seeming indifference to her death if it does occur.

>>143416801
I don't think I had any problems. I'm just the best aren't I.

But yeah, the idea of Max walking around searching the eggs, growing more frustrated by the minute is so funny. She could just ask Joyce! - But she can't, because that is no option!

>>143417202
Agreed. But in this scenario he wouldn't know about Rachel and Chloe tried to fuck him over too and is just some "punk ass". His feelings about the whole Kate thing are more ambiguous. On one hand he seems fascinated when she is on the roof and indifferent in the Principal's Office, then he goes to comfort Victoria - probably knowing she blames herself but that he is to blame - and later says in tears he didn't want to hurt her. Anyway, it's obvious he knows that it is wrong, is conflicted about it and at most tries to suppress his feelings ignorantly and not confront himself with that (until he must when Warren beats him up or when Jefferson is on his ass, potentially also when he does find out about Rachel or that Victoria is on the menu).

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>>143417097
The bathroom puzzle is great when you realize the significance of 0311.
Chloe really is Max's anchor to sanity that week. Helping solve the mysteries as well as being the one that frees Max from self-doubt.

>>143418084
>and did so not only because he was being manipulated like a puppet.
This is where I think we disagree.
Sure, Nathan knowingly participated, and it's arguable he has innate morbid interests. But that doesn't mean he had any interest in the dark room process beyond the fact that it pleased Jefferson. He can have the latter as his primary motivation without it making him a blind or innocent puppet.

The same way it can be argued that Max is only really investigating Rachel's disappearance to bring peace to Chloe, rather than for the sake of being at all interested in detective work. Her motivation is no less strong or aware for that fact.

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>>143416306
Yes, there are.

Great, now I have "whale penis dildo" in my search history.

>>143418602
Symbolically the "way up to the lighthouse" is pretty interesting too. In one vision we have to overcome "obstacles" (that tree, the chopped wood) to get to the top while the doe is leading us. Same for the nightmare: the doe leads us through a maze of "mental" obstacles (fear, guilt) while we are being carried up the cliff by Chloe - who is also helping us overcome the obstacles in the nightmare itself.

>>143419827
I don't think we disagree. Just because the motivation is directly aimed at the act doesn't mean he is a puppet. As I said I don't think Nathan was even in his artistic sense interested in drugged human subjects and would have never done that type of thing without the motivation to impress Jefferson. A puppet in my mind would need him be completely without will and agency. But he does have plenty of those.

>>143420186
Are they life sized or did they chicken out and shrink it down?

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>>143420186
*isn't directly aimed

>>143420394
Life-sized would probably kill you. If not by means of penetration, then of shame when it gets delivered with a truck.

>>143420186
>Great, now I have "whale penis dildo" in my search history.
>just as planned.jpg

>>143420186
The entire time Max was being guided by Rachel, who we see four times as the doe spirit.
First vision of the storm: As if to say "Hey, Max. This might not make sense yet but some really bad shit is going to go down and I'll be your personal guide through this hell." it's at this point she gains the rewind power but doesn't know yet.
In the Junkyard in Ep 2: "Yo! I'm here! You don't understand yet, do you?"
When Max and Chloe find Rachel: "My job here is done and justice can be served. I'm sorry, Chloe. But you're in good hands."
Final time in Max's dream: "Let's go, Max! You're almost there! Don't give up, I won't let you."

She should have appeared one more time at the very end, or even as her own spirit (Kind of like a Jedi ghost) but she didn't.

>>143420186
>I don't think we disagree.
But... It's the internet!

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>>143421172
Makes sense. And oh how I wish Rachel would have appeared in the end, as herself (Jedi ghost form I'd be cool with too though!). It would have definitely positively impacted my feelings for the episode.

The intentions of Rachel are interesting. Like how you put it does make sense, although I also like the vengeful version where Rachel summoned the storm in a fit of anger, but is now is trying to get Max to undo it all (maybe after they find her grave she has a change of heart). The "malevolent" Rachel here would be deceiving Max, trying to trick her into sacrifizing Chloe by inducing the visions and ultimately nightmare; EvilMax being Rachel trying to get Max to part with Chloe. "Benevolent" Rachel would lead them to the lighthouse just so they could survive together. But these interpretations have the one or other annoying kink to them.

>>143421490
No, it's /lisg/! ...Ok, that may not be that much different all the time, but I think we truly do agree in essence (Nathan is not a monster) and would just be riding "puppet" semantics beyond that.

So I'd been playing Life is Strange on and off for a good few months and just finished Ep.5 the other day.

What do you guys even post about this far out from the game ending?

>>143422545
There's way too many theories and all of them are valid because NOTHING WAS EXPLAINED
I guess my conclusion is that Rachel had something to with the storm and Max did not. Through some native magic she was able to create the storm, and by the time she realized how stupid that choice was it was too late to undo so all she could do was give Max a warning the power so that Max would save Chloe and solve the mystery before the storm arrived and destroyed all the evidence.

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>>143423949
>Through some native magic
Hopi prophecy, Pazuzu (demon of wind). All referenced in the game. Presumably she made some pact with the demon then or whatever (like the blood oath).

And yeah, that interpretation works too. I have kind of given up on thinking the devs had a clear intention here. It seems obvious Max's powers cause the storm, but it could just as well and fitting with the narrative be Rachel. I think the former interpretation is more solid (Max's powers are some magical manifestation of her love for and connection to Chloe, but they fuck with the universe), the latter is more satisfying (Rachel actually being as central to it all as the narrative made her out to be) and ties in with a couple of things that otherwise just seem senseless (the native stuff to do with magic and spirits).

However the story functions on the surface, I think the narrative intention is pretty clearly that of Max growing up throughout the week and its experiences, and ultimately those "lessons" culminating in a final "adult" decision. Whether that's the acceptance that shit happens and that not accepting it will only make things worse (Bay), or the wisdom that we can never know what our actions lead to and thus can only base our decisions on what our heart tells us - which for Max obviously is the realization that she loves Chloe and wants to save her at all costs (BAE).

>>143423318
>What do you guys even post about this far out from the game ending?
Mostly how much we hated the ending.

>>143423318
How great Chloe is

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>>143423318
How adorable Max is.

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>>143425731
Well I know what my choice was.
I'm sorry Chloe, I hope your family and friends fared alright and found shelter.

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>>143423318
How cute Kate is.

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>>143426616
That's the wisdom of that choice though: no reason to be sorry at all! Apart from Max not being at fault to begin with, the idea here is that you can't keep second-guessing yourself (i. e. rewind and try something else) but have to just stick to what you feel is right and look forward from there. We can't predict the universal outcome of our actions, and so basing our decisions on that is futile.

Max here bases her decision on the only thing she now has come to realize is certain through all of time: her love for Chloe and Chloe's love for her. They have nothing to blame themselves for and can drive into a happy future together. (Besides, hardly anyone died!)

>>143426383
>>143426076
I can get behind this.

>>143425948
I only did the sacrifice Arcadia Bay ending and I'm playing the game again with a group of friends who I think will pick the other ending, I assumed the other ending actually fleshed out the finale is that not the case?

>>143426698
not that cute desu

>>143427282
>sacrifice Arcadia Bay

Why?

>>143427363
I probably value friends a little too much and my whole playthrough was all about doing whatever I can to help Chloe.

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>>143427642

>>143427017
Beautifully put. And if we don't see a body, they're not dead.

>>143427282
>I assumed the other ending actually fleshed out the finale is that not the case?
The other ending seems to be the one preferred by the game creators. For them the story tells a tale of overcoming the death of a loved one and developing an acceptance for the shit that happens in life, as well as a sense of "greater good". Maybe even a sense of "responsibility".

Most here think that is bullshit. First of all we do actually have the power to save the loved one - we can fight the tragic shit that happens and don't have to eat shit. Then philosophically the "greater good" idea of being an "adult" crumbles very quickly once you properly look at it itself and at the implications of the story itself (it shows that concepts of "good" or "bad" don't apply to reality in as much as that the course of reality is unpredictable and chaotic; only intentions can ever be "good", not however decisions when measured against their effect on reality). And finally the notion that Max would be responsible is absurd. No, she did not want to "have a perfect life" as Michel put it. Considering her type of use of the power, she is a literal saint. And while there is the societal idea of feeling responsible even when you aren't, in a philosophical or ethical sense I'd argue it is wise (and therfore mature, grown-up, whatever) to see the futility of feeling "responsible" for things outside of you, let alone on a scale as complex and unforeseeable as these universal interactions of all of space and time are.

There are a lot of reasons to dislike the endings and Episode 5 altogether (and you will probably read all about them if you decide to stick around!), but for me ultimately it is the hopelessness of it all (even though I can will myself into an optimistic understanding of it) that has me sour.

>>143428539
The universal cinetmatic rule! Even Lord Michel has to succumb to it.

So I'm curious. This was a rather cut and dry story game and it's long since over.

What do you guys have to discuss for over 300 threads?

>>143429505
Nothing dry about it; our eyes are still wet (as are our figurative [and certainly literal too] vaginas)!

>>143429505
Look through some or hang around and you will see.
Why do people keep questioning the motives behind this general? There's still a community that can sustain threads, that's all the reason needed.

>>143430091
Don't respond to it.

>>143427282
>I assumed the other ending actually fleshed out the finale is that not the case?
kekekekekek

>>143430091
I was this >>143423318
anon
>Why do people keep questioning the motives behind this general? There's still a community that can sustain threads, that's all the reason needed.

I've seen other generals with just as dedicated community with more game content to talk about wither and die out if there wasn't new content to talk about and some where even with new content to talk about still die out.

>>143430378
That can only tell you one thing anon: this game is special!

We are at most 40 individual people here these days, maybe 15-20 regulars. I hope and am positive we will survive for a good while longer, but we are not doing so well. These walls of text you see here are getting rarer and rarer and honestly it isn't stuff we haven't already posted about multiple times, and a fair share of lengthy-post-posters have gone away too. I personally still come here because it's comfy, because sometimes I actually find something new, inspiring or interesting, and because talking with people that care as much as I do keeps the game alive - primarily keeps the characters alive.

So, you see... We need you! Conceptionally "you" as "fresh meat", but also you specifically because you can string sentences together and came here with an interest for the game. Tell your friends to come too maybe.

>>143430906
>Tell your friends to come too maybe.

No bayfags tho

>>143431082
Or plebs that chose a Belgian Waffle over a Bacon Omelette

>>143431335
>no wafflefags
But that's based haha :) lord's choice!

>>143432161
I can't eat gluten.

>>143430906
It's been a while since I've been to a comfy general so I plan to stick around for a while, hopefully I'll have more to talk about when I finish the playthrough with my friends and probably see the other ending.

>>143431474
>>143431335
Belgian waffles have always been the choice of /lesg/ anons.

http://strawpoll.me/5722043/r
>>143432208
Sorry to hear that anon, but you can't deny others of their pleasures just because you can't have them.

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Ponytails are cute

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>>143432252
There is still fanart and fanfiction being released all the time too. There are devs and their continued twitter shenanigans to make fun of. There is the certainty of a second season in 2017 or - more likely, unfortunately - 2018. Whether you stick around really depends on how much you like the characters though I suppose. There's always stuff to talk about with regards to those.

>>143431082
Can we really afford to exclude half of the playerdom though? I won't bring up Warryn again, but just maybe we have to be a bit more open to other opinions. Besides, it's not like we cannot convert them and show them the true ending of "shutting the game off at the gallery"! Where everything is fixed and Max starting her career as a successful photographer, Chloe back in school, the both of them together.

>>143431335
I chose Belgian Waffle because Max has a sweet tooth. Chloe is the wolf and eats bacon.

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>>143432252
Comfy was literally our general's catchphrase before the usage died out.

>>143432978
>but just maybe we have to be a bit more open to other opinions.
NO
But baefags are equally as bad. Anyone who accepts either ending can giiit out

>>143432978
I'm open to all opinions, I don't mind having debates about some subjects and if I see an opinion I disagree with I won't harass the person (Expect in an obviously joking manner). We don't want it to be a circlejerk/schlick of everyone agreeing because then there's nothing to discuss. You may be able to convince some to change their opinion, but most likely not. I think all assets of LiS should be welcome, even if it's a choice/ character that some don't like since it gives more material for discussion.
By the vast majority, at least going by things posted, people here saved Chloe. But that's not the end, there's a whole future to speculate about for all the characters. Which is fun and lets people build their own headcanon.
That should hold things over until some news that gives new topics to discuss.

>>143432978
>Can we really afford to exclude half of the playerdom though?
The day /lesg/ accepts bayfags is the day the general dies.

>>143432978
>but just maybe we have to be a bit more open to other opinions
We then gain one or two Warrencucks but half of /lisg/ leaves in disgust. Will it be worth it in the end?

>>143433504
>Implying baefags are okay
Get out you shit-eater.

>accepting Bayfags
>some losers would actually kill Chloe
I WILL BUILD A GREAT WALL

>>143433724
I'm still refusing to play episode 5 anon.
Rate my power level.

>>143434040
It has some parts that were worth it. Even if it's watching the destruction of some character's intelligence like Mark "Time to shit the fuck up" Jefferson, or David "Kick that table" Madsen. Plus the scene with Max and Chloe outside the party is touching.
Like was said earlier, just stop at the gallery before looking at Max's entry and make up the rest on your own.

>>143433986
Michelkoch will pay for it.

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>>143434040
I'm terribly sorry for misjudging you anon. Your power level is exceptionally high.

>>143434040
I am not worthy...

>>143434412
>Plus the scene with Max and Chloe outside the party is touching.
No it wasn't, it was a tasteless, tone deaf waste of potential.

JEFFERSON NATHAN AND VICTORIA EDIT OF KATE.JPG WHEN

>>143434947
After Rachel

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Sleep time.
Stay comfy!

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>>143435446
Good night!

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>>143429013
Then you've got the more technical failings. The biggest one possibly being that they treat the final decision like the characters know that changing things back will fix everything.

If you've followed the story closely, you'll realise that they haven't done anything to establish this beyond Warren "I can't even chemistry" Graham info dumping in a pathetic example of "telling rather than showing". And the only bit of evidence he has is that Max's powers and the weird effects start to happen at around the time.

Worse, radically changing the timeline by saving William Price appears to have no affect on the supernatural effects happening: Wheelie Chloe tells us the same supernatural stuff has been happening all week in the AU, and 'restoring the time line' (killing William) doesn't remove the new stuff that appeared during the AU (dead birds and dead whales).

That radically changes the final decision from a decision with known outcomes where you sacrifice one for many, to a frankly desperate attempt on par with a primitive culture practicing human sacrifice. There's no guarantee it will work, what they've shown actually suggests it won't work. It might make things worse since it's another use of Max's powers, and we're supposed to believe Max's powers cause the storm.

Why is the Geekremix twitter name "KEKBALL"?

>>143437427
No idea and it's not worth discussing. We don't need to waste our time on those morons.

>>143437503

but mari is a goddess among mortals

>>143437537
in other words she demands worship, and is prone to moments of irrational spite

>>143437537
There's no need to let the thread devolve into shitposting.

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Alice is cute! CUTE!

>>143405093
>based paragraph cancer

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>>143377119
>It's Max's overuse of her power that's causing the tornado
>Solution is to go back to bathroom and let Chloe die
>Because if it wasn't for that meeting in the bathroom, Max would have never discovered her power
>So apparently the idea is to make a timeline where Max never discovers her power
>But we already did this (alt universe/w Wheelie Chloe), and the same paranormal events were still happening at exactly the same times
>Let's ignore that for the moment, and point out Max discovered her power as a direct result of seeing Chloe die
>Presumably, Chloe not dying would have the same effect (actually a better chance) at stopping her from discovering her powers
>But this is what we actually did in the first rewind, went back to the bathroom and engineered a scenario where Chloe didn't die, so Max wouldn't have to rewind
>Ah, but that was after Max had already rewound once. Maybe the butterfly photo takes you back to the first time Max enters the Bathroom.
>Except that we had to re-take the Butterfly photo the second time we went into the bathroom, so that photo should lead to the second time Max entered the bathroom, where she already has her powers
> And they already established with photographing Kate and David, that you don't get to keep the photos after a rewind (except for the purposes of the optional photo collection thing, you don't keep them in game).
>So the photo must lead to the post-rewind bathroom
>Whateva, let's ignore that for the moment as well and assume the photo does take Max back to the first time she enters the bathroom
>Then since this is the first time in the bathroom, doing exactly what she did the second time, triggering the alarm and saving Chloe, would have prevented her from discovering her powers. Since letting Chloe die the first time around is actually what led to Max discovering her powers.

There's no point being grown-up if you can't think logical.

>>143438232
>that pic
Pretty soon my Michel folder will rival all other character folders.

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>>143434412
>''..It has some parts that were worth it or David "Kick that table" Madsen.''

>jefferson became disney villain

>former soldier who isn't even to be able to think of kicking the goddamn table while fighting with some hipster dipshit, takes orders from some teenage girl.

yeah that one too.

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>>143432978
>be open to ignorant cuck's opinions who're trying to impose their nonsensical headcanons

Do you even hear yourself anon?

>>143440315
>be open to leftycucks who love free speech but hates anyone who disagrees with them

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Love is patient andkind; lovedoes not envy or boast; itis not arrogantor rude.
It does not insist on its own way; itis not irritable or resentful; itdoes not rejoice at wrongdoing, butrejoices with the truth.
Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things,endures all things.

Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.

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LiT when ?

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>>143433417
just saying, actually people here can be open to all opinions as long as no one denies the facts or starts a shitstorm for no reason and tells people what to do like they own this thread.

Testing 1 2 3

>>143433724
>bayfags
>muh beautiful tragic end, RIP Chloe, can't wait for season 2, michel is right you have to kill your best friend to grow up
>"baefags"
>episode 5 was pure shit wish I hadn't played it, picking chloe was the less bullshit of two shitty options, end sequence was rushed and underwhelming, understanding of morality and ethics goes beyond 'muh greater good many over the one', rejects the ending the game guilt trips you towards, pays attention to the characters feelings and doesn't play Max like an rpg character
a true "baefag" would enjoy episode 5 and praise Michel just like the shiteater 'bayfags' who argue sacrifice chloe is the true ending.

>>143441656
After Nova writes a book apparently.

So, know any other fics worth following?

>>143442509
>Hating Episode 5
>But still settling with one of the endings Michel gave you
You are a shit-eater and your lazy half-measures change nothing.

>>143442850
On fanfic Letter for Tomorrow and Black Swan
Other ones aren't that great

>>143442976
*Letters

>>143437924
I want to eat Alice!

>>143442879
At least it's way more better than choosing Bay (being Michel's ultimate shit-eater) -aside from dropping all logic, making up shitty reasons like ''sacrificing someone helps you to grow up and sacrificing one over thousands because muh greater good'', completely ignoring what happened in game Max's insane desire to save Chloe , then saying that Max wouldn't let a city go to shit just to save her loved one; Chloe.

Even tho I'm from both endings are shit camp, even tho Max could've saved Chloe and lazy ass people in a million different ways, if we really have to choose between these shitty endings and if you ask that what Max wants then answer leads you to Bae.

Or turn off the game with the disgust when final choices are appeared and imagine that Max and Chloe throw Michel into the storm.

>>143444075
>At least it's way more better than choosing Bay
That really doesn't set the bar very high. Fucking Adam Sandler comedies are better than the bay ending.

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>>143444075
>Max and Chloe throw Michel into the storm.

i wish someone make this come true

>tfw relate to chloe
>tfw people tell me chloe was a shit

motherfuck, people just dont have empathy.

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>>143444445
>mfw someone is trying to stir the shit up

don't even try man

>>143442879
>spending all day bitching about the finale and bullying michel on a mongolian flower arranging forum
strange definition of 'settling' you've got there, anon

>>143444445
>ywn have a noble excuse to commit sudoku because your life is worthless
>ywn watch your best friend adamantly refuse to let you die thus showing you your life has value and you are loved
>ywn push Michel into the tornado, appeasing the angry gods and saving the town

>>143445324
It doesn't matter if you bitch about the finale. Way too many times someone asks if a person in this general made the "right choice". And way too many times the person asking it has the stupid fucking idea that the right choice is not to turn the game off and never look back.

If you pick the bae ending and declare it the "right choice" you are part of the problem. I don't give a flying fuck if baefags are "better" than bayfags. It doesn't matter how much you complain about the storm not making any sense or you headcanon that everyone is safe. You took a half measure and endorsed one of Michel's endings. You are a shit-eater. End of story.

>>143444445

>relate to her hard
>see where she's being a dick but also understand why
>leads me to better understanding of myself

>>143445854
Fucking hell you're as much a self-righteous asshole as any bay or baefag. Some people picked an ending because they thought it might be a decent end sequence at least or there might be a last minute plot twist that made things less retarded.
And then you can look at the choice itself as part of a critique on the game and look at the logic of it and the character motivations and make judgements on it, without saying hurr dontnod are great I approve of this direction the game took.
Get your head out of your own ass.

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Max is the goddess of time-control and cuteness

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>>143448058
Kate is the angel of purity and kindness. She's qt too

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>>143449062
Max couldn't care less about her too.

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>>143449551
Can't argue with canon.

>>143449790
>Marshfield fans so insecure that they go with cliche sacrifice ending

>>143449958
Max would hook up with Warren post Bay ending anyway.

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>>143450106
Keep telling yourself that.

>>143449551
>generalising a whole section of fans because of one anon baiting
trainsanddinosaurs.jpg

>>143445854
what the fuck are you whinning about faggot?

choosing bae doesn't mean they love to eating michel's shit or doesn't mean they love that ending. because it's less retarded choice than the ''le go back, fuck logic and sacrifice the girl that you love, who you obsessed with''

do you really think that you can make lisg convince to ''le if u chose bae ur a shit-eater too don't choose it'' bait by using our hate towards Michel? just fuck off.

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>>143450106
>acting like he doesn't know that Kate will hook up with Warryn

I know it hurts to know that.

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>>143450093
>>143450485

I'll give you 2 seconds to delete these posts
otherwise bad things will happen

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Good night /lesg/!

>>143451325
Don't forget to teeth your brush!

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>>143449958
>tfw hospital was out of the town so Kate is still alive (if Max saved her from suicide of course)
>tfw choosing bay ending only've delayed the storm and everybody will be cuck'd anyway

can't argue with this logic desu

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>>143450927
Deleted all of them before I go to bed. I hope you're happy anon.
>>143451359
B-But I'm too tired to brush my teeth.

>>143451678
Okay. Don't know what that's got to do with Marshfield fans choosing the bay.

>>143451940
It doesn't. He's just baiting. Ignore him.

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>>143451753
>>143451940
>>143451979

Don't forget that our enemy is just Michel and his self insert so don't argue and don't ever let baitcucks to mess up with our qt grills.

>>143378968
Wait, wasn't someone who found a Episode 6 file, which was a .ani of Max wearing Chloe Jacket?

>>143451753
ALICE I NEED THOSE TPS REPORTS BY NOON

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>>143452650
Episode 8 when?

>Threadly reminder that Chloe can't stand Kate and only tolerates her for Max's sake

>>143452650
prove it?

>>143453059
They better hope that Chloe never meets Kate's mother because she will verbally tear her a new one.

>>143454342
Calm down Nathan.

>>143456316
>Season 2 won't have Kate inviting Max and Chloe to Christmas dinner and Kate's family getting uncomfortable that two sinners are in their home.

Fuck

>>143457762
I don't think Kate's sisters would have a problem, and Kate's father wouldn't belittle someone that saved his daughter, and we don't know much about Kate's mother to infer much except that she's the stricter parent.
As long as Chloe behaved herself things would be fine. If not, Kate can always visit Max's house for a holiday. The Caulfields are chill.

>>143458405
Kate's sisters would love Max and Chloe and Mr. Marsh would be tolerant of Chloe and especially grateful towards Max. I'm afraid of how Mrs. Marsh and Auntie Marsh would act though.

>>143458997
Hopefully they relax and realize how close they were to losing Kate.

>>143458997
>>143460210
At absolute worse Kate's mother and aunt would say something that angered Max or they would accuse Chloe (Based on her appearance, even if she was dressed nicely) of being the kind of bad influence that corrupted Kate. Even though that's entirely absurd. But hopefully everyone would be reasonable and keep their mouths shut if they don't have anything nice to say.

Anyone have good picture of Max's shoes?
im trying to make cosplay and i need help /lisg/ ;_;

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>>143461927
depends on if you're willing to post cosplay

black sneaker's would probably do, the pattern is hard to find.

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>>143461927
They're black converse, white tongue black laces, and with this design on the sides.
Good luck with the cosplay (Please try to do the cutie justice, if possible)

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>>143461927
>tfw there's serious shoe size discussion going on about max right now

i didn't need to know this

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>>143462848
I cannot identify what Chloe's face is trying to convey there.

>>143463128
derpiness*10

>>143463116
That's probably for Maxwell Caulfield the actor. Not our Max Caulfield.

Max wears sneakers from the thrift shop!

but only because they're comfy

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This is my favorite picture of Max.

Does Dementiaz still come around here?

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>>143465916
Why is Kate going super Saiyan?

>>143466761
Someone messed with Alice

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>>143466825

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>>143467665
Fourteen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMqfbibsymw
Damn it. This song ruins me more than any other in the game.

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>>143467981
>>143468129
You are so stupid! I- It's sixteen.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pGaz_qN0cw

>>143405224
:D

>>143471436
There's also only 3 bananas on the last sum.

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>>143474846
Silly girls, those are soup containers. They're for soup. Not wearing on your head.

>>143474996
Chloe probably got them high and they don't know what's going on.

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BFF trio

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oh I do have a few of these 3

>>143475859
gal pal trio

>>143476583
GAL PALS GAL PALS CHOO CHOO

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>>143476573
ok maybe Ill start posting them

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>>143477172
and anons can let me know

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>>143477484
if it starts getting too lewd

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>>143476583
Max and Chloe are together, Rachel knows (and encourages) it. So she's just their friend. Kate tags along sometimes hang out with Max and get to know Chloe and Rachel.

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>>143477713