Fighting Games General /fgg/

What is the deepest/most complex fighting game and why?

>>140927449
SFV because while playing you also have to overcome sleepiness in reallife while you're playing it

>>140927449
Koihime Enbu

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What are some fighting games that have no unreactable mixups?

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please join the /fgg/ discord

>>140927608
Divekick.

>>140927608
Dark Souls 2 PvP

>>140927608
Divekek

>>140927712
Because UNIEL is dead until it drops on PC

>>140927608
cyberbots

>>140927712
Why do people eat apples when oranges are better?
Also no PC port.

>>140927712
Why do you act so immature?

>>140927712
cause it's actually worse in every way
>less interesting characters
>way more turtley and boring
>less air movement options
>less unique offensive and movement options

>>140927712
Why are some people so stupid that they can't grasp the concept of opinions?

>>140927712
Because most do not share your opinion, obviously.

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>>140927712
wake me when PC version is out

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>>140927712
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!
>THE GUILTY GEAR PLAYERS ARE HAVING FUN AGAIN!!!
>I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE FUN MOM!!!

>tfw want to try out guilty gear, but it lags on my pc

Will I just have to risk it and preorder Revelator?

>>140927780
cyberbots has instant throws

Why are there so many autistic trips nowadays?

>>140927839
>less interesting characters
Opinion

>way more turtley and boring
>I dont want to play footsies, I want to mindlessly apply pressure and not work to open someone up

>less interesting air options
These take away from the footsies game

>>140928102
Are you implying that Revelator might lag less?

>>140928157
sf5

>>140928213
Preorder Revelator for PS4

>>140928164
I hate footsies
so boring
I just want to go in and do my sick pressure and setups

>this deleted
What did I miss

>>140928296
Redblade shitposting and idiots replying to him.

why doesn't anyone play dalsim anymore?

>>140928247
What's the risk then?

>>140928503
Wasting 60 dollaridoos if I don't like the game

>>140928257
Then play devil may cry.

>>140928594
Can't you just get the disc version and refund it?

Why does everyone like dizzy for some reason

>>140928602
you seem like someone who can't accept the fact that not all fighting games are made for you

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>>140928848
I don't

>>140927712
>mods deleted this

kek

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>>140928848
she is very kawaii

>>140928848
she does things to my dick

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>>140928602
>my game that plays like Street Fighter is not popular because people who like a game like it just play Street Fighter
>Rather than tell people who enjoy that kind of gameplay to try the other flavor of the same game I'm gonna try to convert people who don't enjoy that kind of game.

>>140928851
If you don't want to play the meat of fighting games, why even bother?
Fuck man even smash is more of a fighter than anime cause at least there is interactions between the two players. Anime is one person meming until the other dies.

>>140929003
its not surprising

where do we report janitor abuse?

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>>140928848
Because she's a mobile character with a very clear gameplan, stay away until you get a hit in and then start your mixups.
Her pressure and mixups are very freeform too, so you can mix and match stuff pretty freely.

>>140929339
Put your trip back on, autist.

>>140928164
>These take away from the footsies game
they add to it by giving more interesting options

>I dont want to play footsies, I want to mindlessly apply pressure and not work to open someone up
any interesting neutral game relies on a strong offensive presence to make to work to actively pressure people into taking risks allowing for proper mindgames

downback simulators are more about being safe and patient than playing against your opponent

>>140929198
except for the interactions in neutral in anime before someone manages to win and get in, and even then there's still player to player interaction

Having trouble with cammy as Vega.
Tips?

>still trying to discuss something with retarded trips
This has happened before, just ignore him.

>>140929615
stab at her over and over with your claw

>>140928974
How big is your image folder?

I'm assuming that the sf5 servers are goofed up, because none of my matches have been sent to server today. Anyone else having problems?

>>140929198
>there is no interaction in pressure
Maybe if you're too shit to block properly.
Once you can the game opens up to just defends and pushblocks to find opportunities to punish the gaps in their offense.
But this is apparently player interaction, only holding down back, shuffling back and forth and throwing fireballs is player interaction.

>>140927608
literally every fighting game has unreactable mixups

>>140930242
fireballs are dishonest too because they force you to take risks, if you just hold downback against fireball pressure you'll get pushed into the corner and chipped to death

>>140930002
https://twitter.com/SFVServer/status/727367084892508160

>>140930002
yes they are fucked
capcom uploading hotfix for guile

>>140930380
So jump

>>140930412
>>140930502
I was hoping it wasn't just me, thanks guys

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>>140930380
>features found in Ono's gift to the world
>dishonest
Maybe you should go play Devil May Cry or something.

>>140930536
what if I neutral jump and they throw a light fireball instead of a heavy one and I land on it and get hit... that's a bullshit coin flip guessing game with no real player interaction

>>140929540
>they add to it by giving more interesting options
No they dont, it devolves down to air dash in and mash since more ground is covered that way

>uniel
>not having strong offensive options
Lmao
It's strong but not bullshit like every other anime game.

>>140929701
th-thanks.

>>140929615
shut down hooligan shenanigans and stop divekicks with st.jab, st.hk, mp aurora. st.mk can work nicely at certain ranges as well. Know your crush counter punishes off of aa st.hk because you'll get the opportunity to bust them out frequently against a hooligan/divekick-happy cammy.
Eventually a smart cammy will stop doing that shit and it because an honest footsie match in Vega's favor. You should know the drill there.
When she gets in it can seem really opressive because she can frame trap you for a relatively long time before giving up her turn, but stay calm and remember she has no overhead so you're only really worrying about being tick thrown. Be ready to dash forward and under when she tries to renew her pressure with a divekick.

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Should really make a collage of edgy nash mains

Yeah im terrible

>>140930681
>No they dont, it devolves down to air dash in and mash since more ground is covered that way
but if you always airdash you'll be predictable

>uniel
>not having strong offensive options
with the way you talk about it you make it sound like holding downback beats everything

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>fireball
>is actually a ball of ki

>>140931185
Why don't they call it kiball then??

>>140927608
*sniff*
yessssssssssss

>>140931092
>with the way you talk about it you make it sound like holding downback beats everything
It doesn't but it doesn't have dishonest bullshit pressure, everything is very faor and beatable if you know what to look for. Defensive play is not penalized like in gg or bb.

>>140931357
>Defensive play is not penalized like in gg or bb
if you let someone in you should be penalized

>>140931357
Isn't there literally a system mechanic that gives the most offensive player a boost, though? That's just another way of penalizing the defensive player.

>>140930681
Air dash forward is used raw in 2 different situations.
1: as a jumpin with a different arc
This is fucking slow and unsafe as hell, even more than your stardard jumpin in a street fighter game.
2: applying overheads in your pressure, on wakeup or otherwise.
This is more akin to Hops in KoF or doing safejumps in any other game, but with greater amount of options.

>>140931448
Yeah man everything should be rushdown 24/7

>>140931575
No, mindlessly applying pressure is bad in Uniel since it gives the other person grd on shield.

>>140931575
GRD goes up on successful blocks, the guy mashing loses theirs.

>>140931614
or just stop them from getting in instead of just holding downback

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brick you were right
melty is pretty fun desu

>>140931614
It's like you have to work to earn your right spacing instead of the game giving it free to you for holding down back like a good boy.

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>people still unironically "debating" with redblade
All he's going to do is scream that true oki is memeing because one player is forced to play defensive because they lost neutral. You won't make a difference. He's a contrarian faggot in every sense of the word.

>>140930965
Yeah, I let the divekicks and hooligans free.
And her frametraps/tick thows is really strong.

Will try to shut it down her air game.

>>140931742
>>140931714
Oh okay. Wasn't sure about the system mechanics. Bought the game when it came out in europe ps3 but haven't played it much, because even though I buy alot of gamees for consoles I kinda always gravitate to PC.
(Literally bought BBCPEX for PC this weekend, even though I have it on PS4 already, just because I never play the PS4 version)

>>140931714
how do you go about opening someone up in UNiEL redblade

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sprites are cool

Raven looks edgier than Sasuke + Nash

>>140931882
Losing neutral having consequences is the greatest kusoge mechanic desu.
Games should never force you to change the way you have to play on the fly, that would make the smarter player win more often and we can't have that.

>>140932285
It's funny cause he's actually just a weirdo freak

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>>140931802
I'm always right

>>140932350
That's a funny way of saying "the best new character in fighting games". I'm loving raven, can't wait to play him

>>140932265
You grab them with the GRD draining command grab obviously.
When they try to get away from that you GRIMMU REAPERU

Give Guile an anti air fireball and make his ex boom track

>>140932469
I am also excited for him but I hope he's not too good so people won't get mad at me for playing him :(

>>140932485
>GRIMMU REAPERU
Shouldn't that actually be GRIMMU RIIIIPAAAA

>>140932509
Ok, now explain why.

>>140932509
Let him place Sonic Mines in the air and make his Ex Boom a Beam.

The world needs more R. Mika SFM porn

>>140932265
Conditioning them to shield and then shield breaking them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCOGV-mzN-4

Are you guys okay with this being in the game?

White life on normals was a mistake

>>140932590
Oro is a better character than Guile

>>140932580
Psh, who cares if they get mad. You're doing something right if people don't like you and won't play you in a fighting game

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SFV newbie here, looking to play some matches.

>>140932614
sfv models look grainy and weird in sfm porn
i can only fap to overwatch porn

>>140932735
Good point I'll strive to be the most annoying Raven on the planet :D

>>140932641
I will never see that in Super Bronze and it will take me about a year to get out of there so there will be some other bullshit then

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>>140932641

>mfw I opt out of a match if a guile does a combo with more than 3 hits on me

you're not playing street fighter so I'm not going to play street fighter either

>>140932963
>admitting to ragequitting
Scrub detected.

https://youtu.be/meNkqWOdERA

SFV will never have a match that good. No player will ever reach the level of skill in display in that match because SFV's skill ceiling is tiny. SFV comebacks will never be as amazing as they were in IV.

Stop playing this shit fucking game and come back to Ultra

>>140933427
>come back to Ultra
nah i think i'll stick to my dash n mash xrd

I don't think I actually like fighting games now that I think on it

>>140933427
rbk was better than any match sf4 had.

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SFV, KI, Fightcade games?
NA

>>140933427

>come back to Ultra

No thanks I don't play dead games

>>140933629
Last year's RBK was just as good if not even better

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Any EU wanna play some SFV / Xrd?

Is Battle Fantasia a good game?

>>140933683
brick is the last beacon of hope in /fgg/

time to abandon ship

When does KI update with a new free champion?

>>140933740
>Xrd
Might as well play Devil May Cry

whats RBK

>>140933502
Same desu. I'm done with fighting games. They take up way too much time

>>140934076
Real bout katal fury

>>140934076
Real Bull Kissing

>>140933642
Yeah ill play.
CFN?

>>140933502
yeah we already know

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>>140933912
yes

>>140934138
>>140934143
lol made screenshot of this for epic lulz

>>140933912
No

What's the best version of Blazblue?

any good streamers playing Alex? I thought Snake Eyez was, but nope. I just wanna sit down and watch someone great go to town with him.

>>140934351
BBCP 1.1

>>140934203
kek

new Kermit. saved

what are the best game centers to hit up in osaka?
i know athena nipponbashi is big and i guess bbcf is big there
sega avion i know too, is that place mostly sf4 players?
what else, anyone know?

>>140934382
I think 801 Strider has been streaming lately. You can also just pull up matches on CFN.

uniel is genuinely the worst game i've ever played next to skullgirls for a lot of the same reasons

>dude what if we took samurai showdown, added airdashing, gave everyone safe on block halfscreen normals and replaced all the actual in-depth mechanics with fake depth mechanics that look complicated but are actually really simple and inclusive to derp playstyles like a meter that encourages you to never stop attacking and dashing forward

>oh, and everything needs to have a retarded engrish word salad game, every character needs to look like someones deviant-art original character and every song needs to have at least three terrible midi instruments playing at all times so it sounds like someones OC-remix song created in fruity loops at the turn of the millennium

why are people surprised nobody plays this game?

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>>140933740

>Ky has a lot of projectiles
>Dizzy has the most projectiles
>Sin, their son, has one projectile, and it's an overdrive.

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?

>>140934681
skullgirls is good though

>>140933502
do you have a Twitter? I wanna follow you

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>>140934682

me on the left

>>140934681
>Samurai Showdown
>actual in-depth mechanics
kys

>>140934681
yuzuriha is hot at least

>>140934682
I love Ram's haughty face!

>>140934740
it'd be pretty good if you removed most of the mechanics/characters, the soundtrack and the backgrounds that aren't full of stupid looking furries (that also look like original characters desu) are pretty dope

>>140934816
5 special son

if you think that game has no interesting mechanics ritually kill yourself w/ a samurai sword

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>>140934862
>>140934682
>>140934794

>>140934529
monte50 is the biggest and most popular one
also look up madmanscafe guide to arcades in japan

>>140934732
Don't forget that Sin was raised by Sol and taught how to fight by Sol who also has a projectile.

>>140934732
Because their son was trained by Sol

>>140934862
why o i imagine a high pitched shota voice screaming post whenever i see them?

>>140934681
The airdashes are slow, lots of things are punishable if you learn to shield, the grd system actually discourages you from mindlessly attacking because you'll lose grd and the mechanisms are all very deep. You sound like you suck.

>>140934351
>>140934456
Luckily when you buy CPEX on psn or steam you can revert back to the previous version of CP.

>>140934964
Because you're an autist

>>140934909
ok thanks, will do

>>140934732
because in overture sin only had the one projectile too

>>140934942
>>140934950
Fuck you guys are right. I forgot about this extremely important fact.

Ky needs to take Sin under his arm; then he'll be the character with the most damage AND the most projectiles!

>>140934740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSZ3zSP4bm8

>>140935032
hahaha epic

>>140934571
which character does he play

>>140934197
Sanatiel

>>140929615
All I know is that there's some fun tech with slides vs. cannon strike. It's especially stylish if you can slide under a crossup. I've also seen slide trade with cannon strike.

>>140935032
Sin already trains with Ky. Ky himself admits that once Sin fights with his full potential he would body him.

anyone wanna play Last Blade 2 with a noob

name is retsig, reply with your name if you're interested

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>>140909407
See me in Rumble Roses

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is sfv dead

are we going back to pre-sf4 times

what are the best anime fighters (aside from the guilty gear series)

>>140935467
>Yeehaw

Who should I pick up now that Zangief has 3 confirmed 3-7 matchups?

Now that I think about it, I noticed that some of the issues in SFV (like slow walkspeeds and "stubby" normals) were actually a thing from 3S.

Like, see a neutral focused match in SFIV and a neutral focused one in V. While SFV fixed lots of the issues that came out with SFIV (lots of vortex situations, removal of call-out tools like FADCs and lots of OSes), SFV's neutral game feels a bit weirder. The developer clearly wants the players to focus more on the raw fundamentals and spacing, but then you see that the tools that actually were capable of improving that playstyle don't actually work that well. Lots of normals tend to whiff more than they did in SFIV, a (supposedly?) fighting game that became more focused on setplays than the neutral game, and that's because normals in SFV (or at least for most of the cast) are weird and stubby. That goes completely against the idea of a fighting game focused on the neutral phase. That's why I think this game is closer to something like 3S rather than ST. A lot of people see easy combos and high damage and they think "uh, that's more like ST", but when you actually see more than just combos and damage you'll notice the game has really little to do with ST.

>>140934976
> the grd system actually discourages you from mindlessly attacking because you'll lose grd
why are you lying

the only things that make you lose grd are moving closer to the corner/away from your opponent, whiffing shield and your opponent doing stuff

all of these can be solved by constantly dashing and throwing out massive normals so the other person is forced to sit there instead of moving

>>140935506
We won't get that lucky

>>140935506
just go to sf4 times, sf5 is shit

>>140935576
Nitroplus Blasterz
Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax Ignition
Vampire Savior
Under Night In Birth EXE Late

>>140935610
>3S
>stubby normals
uhhhhhhh

>>140935634
Youre the one who's lying because shielding or pushblock gives you grd.

>>140935149
Sent you a few.

>>140935610
they took most of the stupid mechanics from sf3 like stubby normals, automatic priority and fireballs being bad but without any of the good or interesting ones like picking your super combo, having normals that aren't slow and unsafe as hell for everyone, having scary offensive pressure and big combos without using meter

>>140935819
yeah im seeing it. sorry im almost done with survival. ill join in a minute or two

>>140935812
yeah, but I was talking about whiffing shield, can you not read?

it's a mechanic that gives you meter for playing aggressively and takes it away for playing defensively. the only exception are active defensive options like shield or pushblock

Remy is the best charge character Capcom has ever made.

>>140935610
3S, SF4, and SFV neutral are all different beasts from say, A2 and ST style neutral

>>140935945
>it's a mechanic that gives you meter for playing aggressively and takes it away for playing defensively. the only exception are active defensive options like shield or pushblock
>it punishes you for playing defensively except when you play defensive.

???????????

>>140935836
>having normals that aren't slow and unsafe as hell for everyone

That's not true

>Characters in sfv don't have scary offensive pressure.

>Having 'big' combos without using meter is a good thing.

Alright, why has this general been drowning in diaper posts lately? Is someone linking the general to neogaf or something?

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>>140934907
Tell me about these mechanics because I'm always wanting you guys to talk about SNK games.

>>140936054
Are you this stupid, or do you actively get paid to shill your game?

>>140935610
>I don't really play 3s but I play st and sf5 is nothing like st therefor its like 3s
great post

>>140936139
http://wiki.mizuumi.net/w/Samurai_Shodown_V_SP/Mechanics

>>140936128
>Alright, why has this general been drowning in diaper posts lately? Is someone linking the general to neogaf or something?
Well, NeoGaf likes to circlejerk around SFV and they don't want to hear anything bad about it without being totally passive-aggressive, and the replies in this general have been pretty similar since SFV got announced.

>>140936048
Explain how they're different

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guys i bought sfv from GAME but when i opened the case the disc was entirely black and when i put it in my ps4 my cfn id was forced to be RyuIsDead an my flag is a skull and crossbones and also the graphics are really lifelike but gory (charlie cuts you in half with his CA) and when i tried to return it to GAME the shop was gone????

>>140934907
it certainly has some dumb mechanics like the stamina gauge, rage meter, and weapon clashes into button mashing minigames

>>140936128
sf5 doesn't have characters like makoto or yang who can kill you in combo -> stun -> combo

sf5 has a tiny as fuck grab range

sf5 doesn't have characters like ken who can convert off everything all the time

sf5 doesn't have universal overhead, it doesn't have overheads worth doing at all unless you catch someone sleeping

all sf5 has is meme mika setups and a way weaker version of chun

>Having 'big' combos without using meter is a good thing.
I mean big damage, not length

if you don't use your five second super combo and your anime power up mode you don't do any goddamn damage in this game. anti air someone and it does like 3% of their health, non resource combos do like 15%

>>140936412
Sounds like a theory.

A GAME THE-nah, fuck obnoxious meme and fuck you too.

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>>140936412
???????
so who is shop

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>>140935610
16ers everyone

>>140936412
epic

Is there even a half decent reason lots of crush counters whiff on Karin unless you're like frame perfect?

>>140936452
go play n anime game

SFV's forward dashes and jabs are super retarded, that game is the true dash and mash game

i hope Ibuki comes in with Millia + AE 2012 akuma + ibuki vortex and finally kills this piece of shit

>>140936139
>>140936262
to go into a little more detail

>has a meter where it slowly builds up when you don't attack and goes down when you hit/whiff moves. when this meter is full you can one shot people with the really slow heavy attacks, when it's empty these same moves do jab level damage. this encourages you to be careful with just hrowing out normals without completely removing the "throw out a safe normal and shimmy" style of neutral game

>many normals on block will send you into a recoil animation, this can leave you open unless you special cancel it (but for many characters their special cancels are ALSO unsafe so you have hard reads within hard reads)

>you have a series of dodging/evasive moves that all have their own strengths and weaknesses, giving you movement similar to an SNK game but you have to again do a read to see what move is coming so you can actually i-frame through it

>you have a rage meter that lets you use a super and do more damage when it's full. you can also remove this meter for the rest of the match (not round) to do one of two different powerup modes that each have their own pretty big drawbacks

>there's a bunch of stuff surrounding making someone drop their weapon (or intentionally dropping your own, although that's usually a pretty awful idea)

>>140936431
weapon clash can only happen once per round tho

>>140936354
it's hard to describe for me because I have a lot of trouble putting abstract concepts into words

but I could just describe some of the differences in the mechanics that affect neutral to give you an idea

such as

- walk speeds in ST and A2 are high compared to in modern SF
- throws are harder to avoid in ST and A2 (long throw range + less effective anti throw mechanics)
- pressure feels less "turn based" in A2 and ST
- normals in A2 and ST are better all around (more range, higher priority, good pushback on pokes in A2)
- fireballs are stronger in A2 and ST than in modern SF

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>>140935836
>stubby normals

>>140936907
most of the stuff I mentioned are things that originated in SF2

go lose to a gief player doing nothing but body splash and then go into an autistic rage about it

>>140935239
Boy gotta eat tho

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>>140936998
Can you whiny faggots stop pretending like there is any chance of SFV dying, it is literally impossible. Capcom has fucked up entirely to this point and the tournament scene is as big as ever. With the character releases and patch at the end of the year it will be around as long as Capcom continues to support it.

Not to mention that literally nobody outside of /fgg/ thinks the game is slowing down at all. 4000+ players already registered for EVO. If you dont like it then go play your dead anime shit.

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>>140935836

>>140936354
st doesn't have dashes and you have to hit a DEEP jump in to combo off it

pushback on fireballs sends you full screen and normals actually cover space

>>140937153
that isn't actuall real you know

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>>140937598
>stubby normals

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>>140937598
The real hitbox isn't even as retarded as you'd think

>>140937354
>4000+ players already registered for EVO

4000 people, not players

all the people there for smash bros can sign up for sf5 despite never playing a real fighting game in their lives with no difficulty, as can all the MK/KI players that do okay in that game and nothing else and all the people that got suckered into the BS ono was saying before release about how SF5 is for people that feel they can't play street fighter

>>140937153
>>140937412
post hit boxes from low tiers aka 2/3rds of the game

>>140937354
>as big as ever
so small as shit

>>140937354
>b-but mah steam statistic!

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>>140937487
tfw every time I play ST I keep trying to dash for at least 5 games

>>140937767
>post hit boxes from low tiers

so characters like elena, ibuki, necro, q, alex, and 12?

you think they don't have gargantuan normals?

>>140937795
your brain on anime

ive been playing like shit ever since sf5 came out

>Try to make SFIV beginner friendly
>One frame link dominance, filled with set play and large amounts of tech such as plinking, OS, etc.

>Try to make SFV beginner friendly
>Requires almost encyclopedic knowledge of frame data

Capcom needs to stop.

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>>140937925
More like your brain on SF4 and a bit of V

>>140938060
you don't play either tho breek

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>>140937354
it's going to be as dead as usf4 was at the end of this year

>>140937767
Having huge normals are what make characters like Elena. Alex, and Necro low tier.

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>>140937767

>>140938193 see >>140937778

>>140938114
Just because I don't now it doesn't mean I didn't before??

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>>140937767

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>>140938046
>SFV
>Requires almost encyclopedic knowledge of frame data

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>>140937354
the big issue is that normies don't care about sfv at all. it also didn't get the boost sf4 vanilla got which was "finally a new street fighter".

there's no chance of the game dying offline because people play whatever at locals, but its possible the online community will hit life support.

>>140938268
yes, what you feel is more important than player numbers :)

>>140937884
>>140938224

Does THIS >>140938236 look non-stubby to you? the reach is technically long but the hitbox is so tiny it has the same effect

>>140938309
theres no way this is real, right?

>>140938236
>>140938309
where do you guys get these hitboxes?

>>140938224
It's slow normals, Elena's buttons are amazing she just gets nothing off of them

>>140938236
>>140938309
Are these jokes?

>>140938442
why are you arguing against photographic evidence

>>140937767
>4000 people, not players
Yes like they couldve done for literally any game at any EVO ever. Yet SFV is doubling the biggest FG tournament numbers ever from SF4 last year.

>>140937772
No shit, no fighting game that ever requires a decent amount of skill will have a big tournament scene compared to all the other easier games.

>>140938335

Nah that wont happen. SFV's online couldnt get much worse and there are still a ton of people playing so any improvements will bring more people back/in. Also the playerbase not being split between consoles/versions like SF4 make it even longer lasting.

>>140938446
http://ensabahnur.free.fr/BastonNew/

>dont want to partake in the memefest that is sfv
>sit in the corner and block, wait for your opponent to come to you
>they disconnect
2 0 1 6

>>140938629
>any improvements will bring more people back/in
only people who cares about fighting games before
everybody else is done with the game

>>140938629
>Yet SFV is doubling the biggest FG tournament numbers ever from SF4 last year.
last year didn't have two smash bros games and pokken in the main lineup

every yeah the smash bros audience (which dwarves SF scene at evo every year) gets bigger at evo

it doesn't help that last year KI was completely dead in the water but now it's made a bit of a comeback

>Yes like they couldve done for literally any game at any EVO ever.
those other games arent the new highly shilled game that claims to be for people that couldn''t play previous games in the series

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>>140938654
thanks bruv

>>140938348
We're talking about tournaments. Steam statistic are only useful when gauging how many casuals play because the steam community is littered with casuals. And we all know SFV won't have anything for the casual audience until summer rolls around.

>>140935634

Having your attacks consistently blocked will result in losing the GRD war. You are rewarded for moving forward and landing hits, but your opponent will be rewarded for blocking your attacks, not you. Watch any match and you can see that at play.

>>140938851

>those other games arent the new highly shilled game that claims to be for people that couldn''t play previous games in the series

and guess what, if the people believe that and register then it worked.

>>140938830
I see more of the less hardcore players saying their interest is hurt by the shitty online than serious players. I didnt think any FG would improve its netcode after release but look what MKX did. If SFV could make any improvements it would do nothing but help its online longevity.

>>140937172
>nothing but body splash
Are you talking about alpha 3? Because if so his rage is perfectly understandable.

A3 Gief is one of the scrubbiest characters in SF history. You can legit scrub out mid tier players after an hour worth of play with Gief.

EU Melty anyone? Preferably someone who's barely played it, since that's where I'm at.

>>140939279
it was literally just body splash over and over

I dont care how good a move is, if you lose to one move you're horrible at fighting games

if you think 3s has stubby normals you should delete your 4chan account

>>140940043
I would beat anyone in this general by doing the same thing

>>140940085
This lm@0

>>140939993
Let's play a ft3 I gotta leave in a bit 92.185.120.57:46318

>>140935819
from which part of the us are you? the match felt good for the most part but people i play usually say theres teleporting.

>>140940085
delete your discord account m8

>>140940151
Post CFN

>>140940429
angry_ojisan

>>140940339
ggs, I gotta play more

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anyone sfv eu?

>>140940921
ggs anon, keep at it!

ft5 me right now

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>7gig update
thanks capcom

>>140941101
>>140940931

>>140941227

ur not eu

>>140941170
wait what, for SF5?

>>140940151
yoyo wouldn't lose to that

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>>140940421

>>140941298
yeah but I just bought the game so I have to install all the updates at once

>>140941412
oh ok
who you gonna play?

>>140941292
what is your cfn, bruv

>>140941502

still not eu

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What makes Fang so bad? He seems to be a frame trap monster like the rest of the roster and he's far from the only one without a 3F jab or good reversal.

>>140941467
Guile at first for sure, then I guess I'll play around with everyone to see who I like
Despite my intense dislike of 3S, Alex looks like a better SF4 Hugo and I played him a ton so I might give him a go too now that's he's not in a meme game
I want to try Vega but I'll have to unlearn everything I ever knew about him in SF4 since he's so different now.

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What a high-maintenance hairstyle.

Guile should never wear his hair down like this.

>>140941573
oi m8 lad senpai im a right british bruv blud init bin me that cfn

>>140941676
Why did you post this?

>>140941573
are you running from me?

>>140941653
i thought i'd hate alex honestly and thought he was just kind of a meme addition, but he's actually kind of fun
i never play big body types either

>>140941676
Mod when?

chun li is extremely hard to play

How do I use a stick?

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>>140941607
>posting the shitty version

>>140934456
>>140934990
What's wrong with the EX version?
inbefore "my favorite character got nerfed"

>>140941916
with your fucking hands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYH39ukxQnY

ricky still sounds like a guy

>>140941607
he doesn't do damage, useless vskill and vtrigger, free as fuck on defense

>>140942112
I legit thought the person talking at the start was Fchamp but it was Ricki
What the fuck

>>140941795

are you eu

>>140942112
ricky looks like an old retired mexican groundskeeper lady named consuela

>>140942245
why even respond to him honestly

>coaching allowed during pools
>banned during top 8
Literally what?

>>140942252
>groundskeeper
what the fuck lol fucking yurotrash

it's called a housekeeper

lmao yu know im not eu

i jut want a ft5

just say you don't want to play

you have no problem playing agains inertia who is also usa ec

>>140942421
i dont get your endgame

>>140942363
a groundskeeper and a housekeeper are not the same thing lad

>>140942332
not just top 8, I think its everything after pools. It would be impossible to enforce in pools with the amount of matches going on.

>>140942363
are you retarded? a groundskeeper is someone that maintains the outside of a building and the landscaping

>>140932451
dont push your luck

It's a good thing that coaching is banned

You go in by yourself and go out by yourself.

>>140938309
That's a throw. That hitbox being low might be a way to make sure it doesn't hit airborne opponents.

>>140934203
where the fuck do you people get these kermits lmao

>>140942879
That's his back fierce. It's a hit.

>>140942940
autistic neets have to pass the time somehow

>>140941607
>frame trap monster
>free to 3f jabs
lel.
Yes, he is good up close vs characters with no true reversals or 3 frame jabs like Nash.

>>140942475
Broski scared as fuck to play anyone except EU BC he knows EU are shitters and he'll get exposed 5-1 just like against Meppz

how do i know which chun normal to use

>>140941984
kinda boring really where nu dominates everyone

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>>140943014
>throw hitbox
I-i-it's not a throw because I say so!

>>140942879
>>140943014
It's actually a hitgrab

>>140943194
Kek maximum damage control. Its OK to be wrong dude.

Giefs CA is fucking impossible on a ps4 controller

>>140942773
>>140942590
Mad?

>>140943128
experience. go play some games use normals you think are good in that situation and see if they work well or not. after the games try to think what worked and what didn't and what normals you think would do better in situations where you got rekt.

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anyone sfv eu

>>140943128
you need a high IQ

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>>140943414
>eu

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Chocoblanka is cute. CUTE.

Kinda squirrley though

>>140943271
Nice counterargument faggot.
I told you guys the reason why the hitbox looks weird and you just argue semantics like huge faggots.
Good job.

>>140943379
are you 12 years old lmao

fang is fun to play and all but it really hurts my hand to charge non stop.

the end

>>140943807
Hey cometsu

Do you have a Twitter?

>>140943849
nah i dont use anything

>>140922516
Don't even bother arguing with smug dickriders

Wait for EVO, sticks go on sale a lot during then, madcatz always throws out some discount codes too. Just don't expect to get anything decent for less than $100.

>>140943414
oi wag1
yeh blud send me an invite, ft5 innit?

>>140943932
you don't even use your brain lmaoooooooo

>>140932765
US? EU?

>>140944161

hi-larious

I'm useless in SFV if I cant jump in

How the fuck do I even practice this

People block everything if I dash or walk up to them

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Steam Melty netcode blows, holy shit

>>140944335
Did you try throwing desu ne

>>140944268
>>140944268
USA

>>140944407
It's getting rollback supposedly

>>140944312
sorry broski, bored on my break
always want to play you but i'm not eu

Can someone tell me some millia BNBs in revelator

>>140944481
What coast my man

>>140944569
I know this might sound crazy but her BNBs are the same ones she had in XRD Sign

>>140944569
Anything not using D 6 is the same as xrd

>>140944615
East

>>140943414
>>140944312
I'll play you broski, what's your cfn?

>>140944569
ex mash into instant air derp

play a real game like sf4

>>140944556

no worries dude, i appreciate the honesty

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>>140944569
>Xrd

>>140944707
>mashing in gear with millia

Nigga that's how you eat 70%

>>140944704

broski

>sfv
>make smethng unsafe
>but make it hard to react to

the combnation of that and the two extra frames of delay the game inherently really make reacting to 15 frame dashes difficult and things like ken's run hard to punish.

>>140944881
Ok, give me a sec booting up sfv and I'll invite

i never get any games in here and always pst with my cfn

im not even 'good' at fighting games

why is everyone so afraid to play

>>140944620
>>140944665
>>140944707
>>140944835
Thanks guys epic replies this is my first guilty gear game fuck off

>>140944835
I mean guile is essentially a gear character and he's fucking broken

stop fucking around lil boy

see me in any game on fightcade

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invite coming a-any second now r-right?

right?

>>140935576
Arcana hearts
Vampire savior
Last blade

>>140944407
It's worse than the carnival phantasm version of melty and unless you're like same country I'd say unplayabe. Can't wait for rollback.

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>>140945196
i don't use foul langauge like this man

>>140944971
>reacting to 15 frame dashes difficult
you mean like dash in throw or what? because you're not gonna be stuffing 15 frame dashes on reaction in any game