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Citadel Shoa Edition

old thread: >>140716803
permalink: http://orph.link/eog

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/t9Af7NJY (embed)
Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
>Winter: new "drilling platforms"
>Fall: new "industrial arrays", barge reworks
>Summer: AOE BOOST/LINK REWORK, citadel iterations + contracts, Rorqual rework
>May 30: Dust 514 shutting down (long live Project Nova)

Ongoing:
>May 02: All kspace citadels are getting shot
>Apr 30: New AOE DDs are bugged: target's sig doesn't migitate damage (1 man pikebomb)

Past:
>May 01: Snuffed Out sloping; 4 corps from AU/USTZ leave b/c of Shadow Cartel awox
>Apr 27: Citadels & cap rebalance released. Tears, bugs, etc.
>Apr 25: Eve players contributed 167 years of work to Project Discovery
>Apr 23: Fanfest 2016 over
>Apr 21: CSM XI results out
>Apr 19: GSF camped into Saranen
>Apr 10: Drone Walkers doing some crazy stuff in the Russian theater
>Apr 12: GSF absorbing Imperium corps; FCON + SMA bail
>Mar 28: CFC is dying. CO2 reset. IWI funding the MBC to burn down goons
>Mar 18: Guristas Hunt event (Shekel Madness: 3D)
>Mar 09: Project Discovery launched + massive mod tiercides that broke a lot of fits. Elo Knight creates White Legion.
>Feb 18: Last CSM X Summit: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-second-csm-x-summit-meeting-minutes-included
>Feb 09: SP trading live
>Oct 25: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/reworking-capital-ships-and-thus-it-begins/
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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>>140906374
>tfw ur oc is the new thread OP picture
:3c
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I want Reyni to sit on my face.
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>>140906498
who is the vil-lookalike to the left of realvil with the hipster glasses
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>>140906374
Why are there skiffs
and why is there a burning rattlesnake
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>>140906623
spoops.
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>why is there a burning rattlesnake
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>>140906498
been there done that
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FUCK KAILE IS THE SUN
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>>140906784
>Hey, im new and was wondering what the barrier to entry is ( in terms of SP + ISK) for solo/small group pvp in this game?

this guy http://crossingzebras.com/joining-the-horde/ made his eve account around the end of march. admittedly that is the opposite of solo/small gang, but pvp is definitely in your reach. and i know a number of all-out members that started doing solo quite early. it depends on you, really. I'd say for soloing, maybe a month to two months to begin to grok the game and get some solid skills under your belt, but you'll have plenty to do during that time in terms of money making or flying in fleets.

solo is one of the the hardest things in the game, and you can have fun in pvp in a five man fleet from day one.
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Solo is only notoriously hard because of elite """""""""""""solo""""""""" pvpers with links
That, or there's always some other guy that will act as enemy backup as soon as you start rekking your target
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>>140906374
>wyd is in this

u wot
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>>140907047
Is that a reddit guild? I really have no patience for reddittors these days
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>>140907278
no that is not wyd
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>>140907335
that's a dumb attitude to have given certain context you are unaware of, but you can have it if you want.

but in any case, PH is not small gang, so look elsewhere if that's what you want. we have some a1 certified robot-tier autists in White Stag Exit Bag if that tickles your dickle
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>>140907430
oh i think is just another variant of reyni
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>>140907549
it's neither
The three girls might look same ish but they're different.
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>>140907278
That is Wazaler
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Terrible (?) news
Reyni has a prostate
May not qualify as a girl
Exploratory surgery pending
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>>140908061
lies, she does not have a prostate
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>>140908061
i love you btw
your reyniposting is on point
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Is this even worth playing? Having to grind just to get another 30 days seems pretty dull. Can I play as a dick-ass stealth bomber, and is it viable in the long run?
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>>140906637
https://zkillboard.com/character/94751456/
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>>140908750
In less than a month you can fly a stealth bummer, albeit terribly. Bombing fleets/runs are common, they won't be going away ever.
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>>140908837
>https://zkillboard.com/character/94751456/
I get it now. His Rattlesnake got incinerated.
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>>140908750
>dick-ass stealth bomber

No such thing. It's not a 'rogue' class. It's a weak, vulnerable, specialized tool that works best in a big group.
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>>140908750
dick-ass is something you do with a stratios or maybe a pilgrim
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>it's a rush virals memedalor's video to the point he becomes beloved by Reddit episode
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who is rush
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>>140906784
oh i forgot to say - you can make enough straight isk with project discovery once you get up to 80% accuracy or higher to keep yourself in frig/dessy pvp indefinitely (disregarding AK) without any sp investment at all.
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Jamyl every single thread
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>>140909214
He drives
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tfw you dont have a harbinger but a hurbengr
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>>140908295
>He is level headed and will go far
>gets meme'd on and quits eve
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/47033332/
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>>140911965
more like he developed a normie and won eve
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>>140912386
>not being a normie and playing eve
game is literally made to be played by both normies and autists
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is all out a good corp? how often is there pvp action w here you live
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>>140914239
Daily at least, depends on the day.
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>>140911990
>500mn digital booster microwarpdrive
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>>140914239
Just do it senpai, we get some dank kills from time to time and manage to always atleast have some fun
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whats the best weapons to use in a cruiser to kill frigates
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>>140914642
the ones you have a bonus to
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>>140914642
rapid light missile launcher
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>>140914642
drones
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>>140914642
Light drones if you are in the right ship
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>>140914642
Depends on race. All weapon types have a medium undersized weapon system save... blasters? which have the best tracking to begin with, though hitting frigs with Heavy Electrons, or any of these undersized weapons can still be hard if not flown correctly.

Qual Light Pulses, Dual 180s Autocannons, Rapid Light Missile Launders. Light Drones.
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Who /rogue drones/ here?
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missles look so much cooler than any other weapon type
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>he doesn't use beams with gamma crystals for the coolness factor
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>>140915367
Blue beams are for jedis.
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>tfw 80km range with aurora S
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>tfw you tether to a citadel with used crystals and then go to jita to resell it for 10x the value
they still don't know /dog/
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>>140915558
I don't get it.
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>>140915558
Shit doesn't work for me. I was tethered for like half an hour and nothing happened to both the loaded and those in cargohold.
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>>140916141
fleet hangar
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>>140916223
Lolwat? Nothing they said at fanfest implied that it has to be in fleet hangar. I don't have DSTs yet.
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>>140916295
Bugs make strange things happen
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>we wanna force players to move theyr markets to citadels
>citadel orders cannot be seen region wide :^^^^^^)
how far do CCP have their heads up their asses?
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>>140916612
miles.

Let's promote a fucking feature that is pretty fucking pointless. Releasing shit that barely has any purpose, GG.
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>>140916612
>citadel orders cannot be seen region wide
They said it takes enormous computational power to make region-wide markets, and thus their entire cluster can only simulate 15 (?) of those (on top of normal market).
So it's a technological issue until they fix spaghetti code in markets and make them lightweight and versatile (no ETA).

>>140916760
But it has a purpose.
It looks good.
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>>140916612

Going to wreck the profits of the jews that just sit around manipulating buy and sell orders and making billions
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>>140916980
No Contracting
No Trading

How do they expect any organization to use these over a station?
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>>140917409
>How do they expect any organization to use these over a station?
They know the target audience of EVE. The e-peen wars are strong here.

I can already imagine it:
"My citadel is BIGGER than yours!"
"-Ahh, but you see. But I have THREE!"

Jokes aside, they are to replace POSes, not stations. At least that's the plan right now.
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>>140917753
That's a lot a shit as they are planning on removing station because of citadels. They are pushing markets to citadels, they are pushing cloning to citadels. The problem is they are pushing us into an unfinished feature, which I would like if it's was polished. Make me want to live in Citadel, push me into it when it's shit. It's worse than sov null when it comes to more stick than carrot.

If anything PoSes are meant to be replaced by the upcoming industrial arrays.
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I haven't followed the drama in ages. So how is the war going for goons?
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>>140918202
>they are pushing us into an unfinished feature
But CCP clearly acknowledges it is unfinished and are not pushing us into it
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>You will never have a mining array platform thing with loads of little venture mining bros living in it
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>>140918709
>Lol, Jeff cloaked his prospect and left the keys inside. Now he cant find it
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>>140918556
>Increasing Broker Fees/NPC Taxes in stations
>Increasing JC cost for stations.
>Adding JC fees for stations
>Removing JC limitations for citadels
>The point of the entire fucking expansion

Well, it's okay if CCP release shit expansions as long as they know it's a shit expansion? How the fuck does that make sense?
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>>140919846
>muh taxes
>muh 50k for a jump clone

who the fuck cares
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>>140919846
actually stop posting, if you find a 5% reduction in margin to be a reason the expansion is shit you need to stop playing eve
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>>140920579
Read Gevlon, he has a good point on why increased taxes on orders in npc stations is actually a bad thing.
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>Read Gevlon
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>not trusting gevlon to understand jewing
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>taxation is theft
>don't tread on me
>shall not be infringed
>inalienable right
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>>140921597
>beliebing gewn propaganda
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>Coonswarm
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>believing ccp_falcon's lies
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>>140910471
but isn't that some girl from life is strange; not Jamyl?
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>>140921834
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>want a Rhea Raata skin
>no one will ever see it unless I fuck up
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>page 10
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>Rhea
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>>140925413
Don't believe their lies, it's Jamyl
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>>140925665
The version with the brown small snake is better
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another successful op
https://zkillboard.com/related/31001527/201605031400/
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>Garde I
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>Ogre I
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>>140929912
>+5 pods
>POCO bashing kronos
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>all-out
>myrmidon
>rex
>kronos
>shitfits
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>>140930197
in my defence sentries are a long train and we only had t1s lying around
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>>140930712
>bringing a shitfit myrm to a wormhole gank
i see oruze has really elevated itself cohabitating with all out
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>stealth bombers
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>>140930975
oh i thought you meant my bhaalgorn
if its about the myrm, please continue
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>>140918202
>Make me want to live in a citadel
>Okay, here's a bunch of features we're going to hold off on until we're sure people will want to live in citadels and that they're useful, then we add the icing on top and give you exactly what you want.
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>torpedoing a capsule
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>>140932145
target painted 1488 times breh
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>>140932225
Make NewEden Great Again
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/53733053/
Why people even bother using blops for anything other than a covert bridge?
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>>140933601
because they're retarded and think they're being elite
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>>140933601
i don't get it
that feel when new
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>>140931953
Did you get this from star citizen general?
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>>140934142
Cherish this feeling. It is a very special feeling when the universe around you is immense and inconceivably enormous. It will go away eventually.
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>>140934142
Same here. Started Sunday. Anyone wanna explain?
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>>140934142
>>140935156
Officer (purple) modules are hilariously expensive, and fitting them in anything smaller than a capital ship is a sure way to spot a retard
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>>140914841
quad lights are beams and they have shitty application. quad light pulses don't exist.
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>>140935668
>quad light beams
>bad tracking

no
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>>140937431
+ medium weapon sig radius. It's not good at killing frigates that get up in your grill without 2 webs.

Hence, the 1600mm plate quad ligtht no prop mod dual web omen
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>>140940214
it's pretty good for a long range gun. shame it has short range gun range
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>>140940214
>medium weapon sig radius
Signature Resolution
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>>140918325
we can finally, unironically, say "there are no goons"
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>Player Built Cucksheds
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>Scorch XL
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>>140948851
Is white stag a wormhole alliance or just certain corps?

I am tempted to start a new toon and throw them in with you guys, be hero tackle and if all goes well move a higher SP toon or inject a ton of SP. I have a 42m SP pirate toon, sub BC pilot and tempted to try something new as my current corp is a bit meh.
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>>140949182
Also an OGB pilot, JF/T2/Scanner hauler pilot for supporting.
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>>140949182
it really depends. Who's your waifu?
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What the fuck is up with limited sleeper caches? I was pretty excited when I scanned one down because it looked fun and people online said they had good loot. But even after cracking all containers I only got about 2Mil isk. And just now I did another and ended up with just over 1 million. This stuff is bugged, right?
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>sample size of 2
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>>140951864
Yes, any site where the payout is less than 30mil is bugged. I can't believe you even opened two cans, I just scan down like 1 site every 2 weeks on my alts imicus and make 9bil a month from exploration
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>>140951712
Teff nogero
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>>140951864
they are not bugged. sometimes they are shit loot. you can get very valuable bpcs for polarized weapons and named modules.
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prorator
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>>140952923
best blockade runner
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>>140953239
The prowler is the best
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>prowler
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>prowler
>cargo
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>that one prowlerfag still shitposts on /eog/
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thinking about playing again, how's providence?
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Why are missile launchers just another type of gun, instead of being a limited-use tactical offense/active defense module?
That could work thanks to turret/missile hardpoint layouts determining how much a hull can specialize in a role of tactical missile-strike boat.

As it stands it makes zero sense that there are separate hardpoint type for missiles.
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>>140954171
why are you not explaining your probably stupid idea instead of asking why things aren't like a thing you just made up
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Prowler looks the best, and that's all that matters. Not like blockade runners can even run a blockade that isn't manned by drooling retards. If they had the inty bubble immunity I'd actually use them.
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>prowler looks the best
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>I won't undock without bubble immunity and instawarp/covops

remember when not everyone was fucking gay
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>>140954829

naa, everyone was always gay

the dicks have just gotten bigger over the years
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It is hands down the best looking

And what's the point of calling something a blockade runner if it can't run blockades? And I remember when every gatecamper wasn't quint-boxing with links and 11 anchored bubbles filled with jet cans. Faggotry begets faggotry.
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>>140955265
what it's called is really irrelevant. prorator can carry the most, so it is the best in empire space
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>>140954297
>why are you not explaining your probably stupid idea
Because it doesn't need explaining unless your only contact with sci-fi combat is EVE.

There's a shitload of design potential in missiles, and instead they are reduced to being "just another turret".
I'm voicing how much I dislike that fact.

Not arguing how it's supposed to be, just saying how lazy current implementation is - brings nothing new, literally another gun type and nothing else.
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>>140953991

pls respond
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provi a shit
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>>140957823

why
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How stupid would I be if I bought a Leopard? I'm a baby capsuleer with less than 2mil skill points but I have some disposable income now (I mine in nullsec all day erryday) and going 20au/s sounds like fun. What are the odds I'll get blown up if I just use it for running errands?
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>>140958659
yes go for it
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>>140958659
m8 first you should join tengoo
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>>140930975
Actually I just borrowed the myrm from someone else
Besides,
>training for t2 heavy drones when you have less than 50 mil sp
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>>140958659
there's a few autistic smartbombers in lowsec who will kill you, and you can still land 2km out of dock range and get popped by campers, but other than that sure
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rip ;_;
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>>140960928
WE
WUZ
JUGGS
N
SHIEET
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>>140959774
There's no reason to not train heavy drones when you have a ship that adequately uses heavies. Saying you shouldn't train them because you have less than 2 years experience is retarded
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whats the necessary skills to join a WH corp?
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>>140961778
t3s
12 alt accounts
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>>140958659
it's fast but not safe from bubbles in null or gatecamps given the 2.22 second align. if i was travelling around in null i'd just use a plain jane travelceptor, and if i was travelling in low i'd use a dramiel because of the sex factor. you can get those up to 13, 14 au/s iirc.
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>>140961858

why 12

why not

get this

13
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>>140961778
depends on the main hole and the corp's own doctrine
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>>140962204
2 elite 4 me m8
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>>140962020
Leopard warps the same as every other shuttle M8, sub 2s
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>>140962709
ah. i was looking at the base time to warp figure on the euni wiki, but i guess with any decent navigation skills that would drop to sub 2 second align.
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>>140961498
Why would I spend 25 days training heavy drones to V when I could train two cruisers to V in that time?
Or any other, far more useful skill?
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>>140962292
kek

>>140961858
why a T3
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>>140963196

>2 cruisers to V in 25 days

uh, you can't
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>>140963624
Fine, single cruiser to V. Still so much more useful. And I got so many core skills to train yet, only 20 mil SP.
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>>140964924

i mean i agree, i just thought there was something i was missing
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>>140966379
I thought it was x8 for some reason.
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Cloaking V, yes/no?
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Does anybody here live out in Providence? Opinions on Provi space? Seems like a pretty good neighborhood imo
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>>140964924
You specialise into what you want to do, if what you want to do requires Heavy drones you do that first, if you do not need them over other things that is your personal choice.

Though realistically interfacing is a better skill to go for with drones.
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>>140969391
it had a reputation as a fun place to go for pvp, but now they just blob all day
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>tfw you properly look through a km hours later and realize just how bad a fit people can make
https://zkillboard.com/kill/53735058/
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>>140967851
No
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>>140969972
>one (1) polarized gun
>no tank
>4 DDA
WHY
This has to be a trollfit
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>>140971812
It has invuls :^)))
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>>140971812
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WHO IS THIS DROOL GHOUL
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>>140971812
Also you missed the nano accelerator
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Where do I insert the skill injector?
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>>140974227

i'll help you ;)
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Is it possible to play this game solo?
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>>140974704
Possible yes
Fun, YMMV
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>>140974704

yes but you won't enjoy it

don't worry about not fitting in, everyone you meet will be way fucking weirder than you
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>>140973383

>freckles

nice
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Just came back from a dope citadel bash.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/53743788/

WRECK THEIR DREAMS
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>freckles
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>>140969564
considering they are the most ganked space in eve, it's only fair they do.
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>>140975658
I was thinking of resculpting Reyni with freckles
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anyone here seen that video review for eve? it was made by a /v/bro
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>/v/bros
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is it safe to assume that the Astero isn't really worth it but heading for the stratios and later on, nestor is?
what I mean is a magnate costs like 0.5m plus another 0.5m fit, so worse case scenario you lose a 1 mil ship during exploration.
An Astero costs 72 fucking million and you must make quite a few trips to the exact same tier of places to just cross the value of the ship itself

you can't go to any places with the astero that you wouldn't be able to go to with a magnate, right?

Sure you can hack them easier and find them with greater ease as well - but you still can't clear out sleepers and the only "worth" you can talk about here is ghost/sleeper sites which you can't really detect with the magnate that easily (came across 2 limited sleeper caches with the magnate, both peaked at 99.2% signal) but regardless, those type of sites are ridiculously more dangerous and just not worth it imo

can anyone share their insight on this shit? I know exploration isn't popular here but i have faith
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>>140976957
Astero is for when you have dosh and already can make a living doing other shit but want to learn exploration. Magnate will be weaker earlier on but you can keep training up for a covops which will be stronger at hacking later on and still cost less. Just stick with the magnate for now if you're planning on sticking with it. Cause even later on if you lose the covops it was only like 15-17mil compared to the 70+ for a Astero.
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>>140976957
>>140976957

This is a good read for you.

http://www.toptiertactics.com/21351/eve-online-exploration-guide-choosing-your-ship/#axzz47dWqgXJU
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>>140976957
correcting myself:
0.5mil magnate + 5mil fit
still 5.5mil vs 72mil ship + 8 mil fits

>>140977371
what about the stratios and nestor? surely they're okay at soloing data and relic sites (they can deal with sleepers right?) and other players that hunt you?

>>140977512
i'll have a look thanks
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>>140977727
Stratios is bit better if you plan on killing pve shit, it can do some work for pvp, but at that point a T3 cruiser might be a better option. Nestor a expensive shit. It's more for support with reps and fleet hangar.
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>wspace #1 most PVE space in EVE
>whfags still trying to trick new players into joining
>wspace is da best becuz itz like da wild wild west nigga - some oruze faggots video
fucking please
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please do not try to have fun with this game

t. anon
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>>140978262
Could be worse m8, they could be nullbabby napfest blobbers or do highsec pvp
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>>140978262
wspace has some of the funniest situations.

>in small strat/guardian logi group to gank ratting group
>warp in and engage
>3rd party of tengus and proteus uncloak
>massive clusterfuck with death on all sides
>4th party of 5/6 bombers unclock and launch 5 bombs wiping out a portion of all fleets

Wormhole space
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>mfw people literally stay in new player space to declare war on newbie corps
>mfw they don't realise everyone in the game thinks they're fags
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>>140979085
>mfw we gank shitters with lots of money who are too afraid to go to low/null because its fun and it makes us tons of money
>mfw we don't care what anyone thinks
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>we
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>>140979326
You in CODE? Power to you guys, burn all of hisec down.
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>highsecpvp

popblues pls
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>>140979481
don't have to be in code to kill or gank highsec shitters
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>>140979558
A+ work regardless, you're doing a great service
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>>140979682
You know how much money I've made off of one shitty catalyst gank? some idiot thought it was funny to carry 200m worth of rat loot in an iteron

Yea my sec status dropped a few tenths of a point but I made more than enough money to jump my sec status from -2 to 0
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>>140978681
I got ya
>some nasty ass corp fucked with our alliance
>bashing their pos in a 150 man fleet
>guard duty
>3rd party of russian cruisers hotdrops our hole
>we flee to our forward bubble
>they think this is our wh and we're hiding in our pos
>they start ransoming us "else we'll siege the pos"
>we laugh quietly, say nothing
>24 hours later tower unanchored and we're gone
>the corp that fucked with us lost billions in asset, *and* had nasty wh pos-busting russians stuck to their ass
Utterly demolished.
Fun times, fun times.
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>>140976957
>>140977371
>>140977512

Get an interceptor and go to null, dont fall for the cloaky wormhole explo meme
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>>140981343

Honestly after playing so long in w-space, k-space just seems ridiculously boring.

There's so much more tension.

Fleet rushing to find new k-space entrances for reinforcements while maintaining hole control, or vice versa you're rage rolling the hole to keep ships out.

And you NEVER really know how many ships are in there with you.
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>>140979994

>200m

>a lot of money

pick one
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hey wormhole shitters are you all living in citadels yet
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>>140978660
You only say that because you have no idea how gay wspace is. It has by far the highest concentration of homosexuals in EVE. Even MLP nullqueers are straighter than the average wholer.
>we only do PvE in inaccessible systems
>we brag about no local but only fly cloaky shit
>we only ever gank people but continuously talk about our PvP prowess and ship fitting abilities
>wspace is super complex and dangerous meanwhile everyone has a 3rd party site to make it as easy as dotlan
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>>140979994
Check this out, the paper tank strikes back
https://zkillboard.com/kill/53665295/
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>>140982041
even worse

>get blobbed by whbabbies one time
>I say gf
>they don't respond

there's just no excuse for this shit
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>>140981837
200m in the effort of simply waiting for one of my fleet mates to say "hey theres this dumb iteron jumping into you" I nail it then another scoops it and leaves
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>saying gf in local
>not spewing dank memes

bni pls
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>>140978262
Nigga we literally dunked about 3bil worth of shit today alone, one of our newbros was personally responsible for scouting one of the kills with shit you could fly in 12 hours.
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>mandelor got permabanned for faking an offensive tweet at Fozzie in the review
LOVING EVERY LAUGH
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>>140983337
That's the second time then that Fozzie banned someone who dindu nuffin after Stunt
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>>140981578
explain_pls.avi
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Need help with ideas for a fit for an Armageddon, both pvp and pve (Angels). I have heavy attack drones and the most sp are in missiles. Active or passive armour tank?
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small gang forming soon m8s

please stay docked for your own safety, thanks.
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>>140984462
PvP - Rack of Neuts, buffer tank, utility mids.
PvE - Use something else.
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>>140984462
Armageddon for pve?
Are you that ~5 days old character flying a geddon I saw in minnie space ~3 days ago?
I was surprised that characters this young (it was <2 days at the time) could pilot BS.
How many injectors did you buy?
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[Worm, Worm fit]

Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

50MN Microwarpdrive II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 100
Warp Disruptor II

Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket

[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]


Hobgoblin II x2

hows this lads, can I get a solo kill in this?
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>she's a girl
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>>140985305
I have a strange doubt you can fit all that without CPU issues
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>>140984462
one does not typically make a fit for both pve and pvp

if you want a pve fit then definitely active tank. as many of the best missile launchers you can use in the highs (it has no bonus, so whatever, cruise or heavies idk), and your lows should be something like large armor repairer, 4 active hardeners vs enemy damage type and 2 drone damage amps. mids idk, mwd/ab and capacitor stuff, rigs would be 2 aux pumps and a cap rig, or 3 cap rigs

all this stuff depends on your fitting skills and what prereqs you have, but I think what I posted would be sort of the gist of what you'd want. pve is not really what an armageddon is best at, but it's not like it won't work at all

>>140985305
that's terrible and also not ever going to fit
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>>140985465
>>140985651
you're right. it doesn't, I was quietly hoping someone would post a working fit.
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>>140985829
here is the fit you're looking for

The worm is shit after the patch, you'll never be able to fit missiles of any kind to it anymore
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>>140985952
>shit

it's still overpowered m8. try not fitting the most cpu intensive mids available
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>>140986149
I name all my generic pictures I overwrite "shit.png"

>most CPU intensive mids
thats just to bring the tank out, you'll never get rockets let alone LML's on there or even dream about a BCU or second DDA
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>>140984121

Go to null for specific pirate faction, always get those sites, no scanning down 15 + sigs to get a shitty angel site. Null is way more lucrative, and as a result, gatecamps in good explo space focus on decloaking covops, inties will usually just breeze through camps.
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>>140986313
>just to bring the tank out

no, fitting a medium extender and a medium ancil is not a standard thing you should expect to be able to do, especially not with mwd and a t2 disruptor
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>>140986673
>Look ma I posted it again
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>>140986958
You could replace it with a defensive web against scrammers but regardless even if you removed the ancil repper you won't get enough PG to run rockets let alone LML's
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>>140983337
you're just memeing right
r-right?
>>
I have a victory edition rattle.. When do I sell?
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>>140986673
posting this is fine, but please include a screencap of your scanning skills in the image as well
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>>140986673
Post fit please?
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>>140987335
fitting mwd mse and lmls again is not something you should expect to be able to do - other ships are not doing it either. powergrid mods aren't just supposed to be used by people with shit skills. get a single t1 ancil and it fits fine with compact lmls/mwd/mse
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>>140983337
Oh shit
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>>140983337
Can confirm my cousins friend is a GM and he said some MRA tried to get fozzie to join tengoo at fanfest and went up to a pregnant ccp seagull and said rip bellyboy before slapping ccp guard on the ass. Next day they tried to reverse his IP identification using meme recognition software but he was behind 7 proxies so they sat back and waited for him to fuck up. When that video got posted to plebbit they were like got 'em and smoked his fat ass.
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Maqari best ceo
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>t3 cruisers
>t3 dessies
>the t3 cancer spreads
>t3 battlecruisers next
>meanwhile the pve jews count their shekels
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>>140977727
>still no T3 barge
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>>140991172
when can I have a ship that kills station traders
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>>140991172

t3's need removed from the game
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T2 Capitals when?

Where is my Tactical Carrier at?
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>>140992024
would it be like a carrier but really tanky and overpowered oh wait lol
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>>140992171

It will deploy Tactical spacecraft.

Like Tactical Cover Ops Fighters and other specialized craft.
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+50 to hull
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black ops carriers
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>>140992460

You heard here first.
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carriers with drones
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Is buffer tank another name for active tank, and when I said for pvp and pve I meant for each, thank you so far though, I'll record this when I get home.
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>>140992795
buffer tank means having a lot of hitpoints that generally don't really regenerate. one does not buffer tank in pve, except on shields sometimes because shields regenerate slowly, and if you kill shit real fast or snipe you can sort of get by. definitely not buffer armour for pve though
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guys how about titan cruisers
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command freighters
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TITAN BARGES WHEN?
I WANT TO DD ENTIRE BELTS.
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>>140993154
So reps and Hardeners, what's nano paste used for?
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>tfw you can make more ISK sitting in Jita local for 20 minutes than from anything else you can currently do
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>>140993467
>>140993317
>>140993170
>>140992682

>people without any ideas mocking an actual good idea of T2 Capitals

Just what can be expected from mediocre good for nothing anons.
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>>140994002
Jita escorts? What are your rates? Do you have any amarrian pawgs? My brutor is curious.
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>>140994045
tengoo pls
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>>140985952
hey senpai

this decent enough for some PVP?
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>>140996828
yes
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>>140996828
>>140996979
same

i'm tarded
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PHOEBE
FREEPORT
REPUBLIC
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>>140994262
>tfw no amarrian milf porn
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>tfw JamJam died before she pegged you senseless

stupid fucking drifters
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https://zkillboard.com/related/30003951/201605040200/o/%7B%22A%22%3A%5B%2299003214%5C%2F%22%5D%2C%22B%22%3A%5B%5D%7D/
we dem boyz
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>>141004595
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>>141004595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o210iEOsLRY

dont worry, this man will teach you how to kill drifter good
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>>141006828
literally 0% interested in what he's going to say but I'm compelled to listen anyway because he's got a great talking voice
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>>141008932
basically:
-the new drifters are testbeds for more advanced AI. there's a number of different factors to how they operate now. imagine a new kind of sansha incursion where killing their mining ships reduces a server side value and results in less hostile NPCs spawning.

-they're going to be plot relevant as things are needed.
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i hate lp
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Reckon with the story of these brave souls
Entering the dark unknown
Yearning for the glory of exploring new frontiers
Never afraid to risk their lives
Interested in the purest glory
After their departure known
Surely as great heroes
Leaving no crevice unturned
Under no illusion
That their return is certain

o7
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https://zkillboard.com/related/30003951/201605040200/o/%7B%22A%22%3A%5B%2299003214%5C%2F%22%5D%2C%22B%22%3A%5B%5D%7D/

Why do PFR still exist again?

Why haven't they disbanded? They are basically just another pet alliance in a shit coalition.

And all they do is feed.
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>>141019883
used to be something worth fighting with and for with freeports but bigger alliances pushed them around and out
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>>141020423
Then walter abandoned all that shit, went to querious and now they're literally doing fuck all. they have nothing
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>>141020423
>>141020581

>freeports

walter fucking banned broski from their stations because walter's prowler got camped for 10 by a tornado even when he couldve just instaundocked at any time

they are a fucking joke dude

freeports more like reeeeports

baseless fucktards dont know the meaning of the fucking word integrity
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>>141023048
Should freeports have like extended shields that create like a 10km invulnerability zone?
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where have you guys been?
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>>140997038
anon pls. 3 t2 shield rigs, mwd web scram mse
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>>141029138
Is that a map of where youve been?
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>>141029320
f10 starmap has a filter for that but it shows some i really can't remember ever going to. Must have been wh hijinks.
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>>141029320
Yep, starmap my info then places I've been.
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>>141029412
>>141029494
cool, will have to take a gander some time
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>>141029138
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>>141029138
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>>141030073
nice opsec
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>>141030073
Watchout, the boogie men are out for you
>>
So I'm reading Templar one at the moment and in one of the scenes the have described something that looks like this rift/wh.
And also how the mad consciousness' the capsuleers have unleashed are eating the sleepre race. fug u, wormholerfags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmv5P-qVGD0
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>>141031004
but muh blue loot
muh salvage
muh dank isk faucet
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>>141029138
>log in
>cluster shutdown
>log out
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>>141031237
get rekt
https://zkillboard.com/character/3019585/
https://zkillboard.com/ship/37472/

Also why do carrier fighters have their lossmails?
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>>141031510
why not, it's cool

we need something to smug about when a carrier 10,000km away doesn't instapop everything on grid
>>
So I was thinking how to make T3 frigates work and not make them op, and came to this conclusion:
- Make it a frigate in all aspects except give it better fitting stats and more slots (not much, 1-2 above your average frigate), chop off its speed/agility as the drawback.
- Give them a single "subsystem" slot. This subsystem however does only one thing, it gives your ship a role bonus depending which one you install.
- Subsystem bonuses are super-specific, something like:
* Subsystem A: Can fit convert-cynos
* Subsystem B: Can fit and use medium micro jump drives
* Subsystem C: Cloak speed drawback removed
* etc

More in a direction of T3C than T3D (strategic over tactical).
I think it could work without being op, since it's just slightly better over a normal frigate and the subsystem bonus is only meant to help you do your very-specific job, not tank/do dps.
You fit it for the job, and then execute. What'ya think?
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THERE'S A STARMAN WAITING IN THE SKY

HE'S TOLD US NOT TO BLOW IT CUZ HE KNOWS IT'S ALL WORTHWHILE
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>>141031818
>chop off its speed/agility
>on frigates
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>>141031818
how about you make T3 cruisers work without making them op first

>better fitting stats and more slots

gay

>chop off its speed/agility

gay

>cloaking

gay

the modes idea for T3 ships is the best, they should all have that, but not be broken like svipuls. and if I were CCP I'd be making less T3 ships, they fucked up the game enough already, they need to work on making T1 ships relevant and fuck up all this cancerous special snowflake broken shit
>>
>muh t1
Can you poorfags stop butting into things you don't understand? And t1 is perfectly viable, except frigs, but fuck t1 frigs.
>>
grindfags pls go and stop trying to kill pvp
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>hurr durr grind
Wtf u even mean?
t1 frigs are useless garbage that nobody should fly. Just fucking fly a destroyer of navy frigs. Firetail is thousand times better than some memeslasher.
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>they're useless so they shouldn't be fixed

>mfw whfags in charge of game balance
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I'm sorry you are so poor and autistic to afford a proper frig and get mates. Stay in your 1v1 frig FW.
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>people who spend their time collecting fake money in a videogame
>calling others autistic
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Citadels yay.
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>>141032914
>look guys we managed to not fuck the economy for the first month in 10 years
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>>140976957
>>>explorer progression

>Lvl1: racial T1 scout
shitty ass but cheap. If you have a triple digit IQ you'll soon end up with more money than you can count, and so you'll be able to afford the next level
>Lvl2 Astero
you get +5 virus strength, you get covert ops, your hacking profession becomes as smooth as Reyni's ass.
It cost 70 millions yes, but that's why you are training your racial frigate of choice up to 5
>Lvl3: racial T2 scout
like the Astero, but it cost 20mil ish

>coming next: combat exploration, sleeper sites
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>astero
>ever
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[16:27] <selto_black> @ccp_fozzie: you still consumed with bug fixes or can we get this ball rolling?

[16:28] <ccp_fozzie> pretty consumed, sorry
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>>141035238
its a great ship for giving explorers surprise eva missions
>>
>>141035238
Astero is dank, but not for the carebeary explorers. If you don't plan on defending yourself, don't buy it. If you plan on eating bombers, buy it.
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>>141032914
tfw deflation only because the alignment of the stars
>expensive ass citadel bpos everyone's buying
>largest ratting coalition in game butchered
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>>140978262
What's wrong with WHspace?
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>>141038193
He's probably a day tripper that got bad touched.
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>Patch notes

>Sieged Dreadnoughts can no longer jump through stargates.

sometimes i wonder how they even find their pants in the morning
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should i join broski? whats their ship replacement program like? do they have safe ratting space?
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>>141039158
If you want to have christ showed up your ass 24/7 than yes.
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>>141044559
>401k ehp
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>>141044559
can you even undock with it? you can't undock with capital guns.
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>>141044936
It doens't have any restrictions written on it. Propmods have for example.

Also try to fit the capital armor plate on a napoc or some shit pls >>141044559
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>>141045118
you can do it but it doesnt really work because it has higher powergrid requirements and even with the higher base pg on the napoc you have to fill all but 2 low slots just to get that to fit without any guns or anything
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>Pyfa
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>>141045356
L,mao >amarr. Do any gallente BS have enough pg for this?
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>>141037262
>If you don't plan on defending yourself, don't buy it.
Even if you are a sorry krab, Astero with 10mn AB and defensive scram and web is virtually uncatchable. If you get caught by a camper - overheat your medium rack, web and scram him, align to an object with AB on and spam the warp button. Pilgrim can fuck you up if it neuts you dry, but that is the only issue, and you have plenty of time to gtfo after he decloaks. Bonus point is the ability to pass through a lonely camping sabre instead of burning back to the gate and figuring out a way around. Also, if you shove EM-703 in your head, your align time is 1.98 -> 2 seconds, so instalock gatecamps won't catch you at all without bubbles even if you don't use your cloak, which is nice when you fly across lowsec and highsec (and nullsec too in some cases).
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>>141045513
fitting oversized armor tank doesnt really work since you need lows for fitting. you could do shield mega or hyperion probably since they have less pg but more lows compared to maelstrom, but its kinda hurt by having less mids so you have to sacrifice some tackle or tank, and your guns also need cap. I played around with them and it doesnt seem like either would work without extra people with tackle
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>>141046053
will it work on a mach?
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>>141045513
armour tanking isn't broken enough to allow oversized mods. cpu goes up slightly between classes, but powergrid goes up massively. so to fit an oversized shield mod you might need to provide an unusual amount of cpu, but to fit an oversized armour mod you'd need like 1000% of your normal powergrid

>ccp

I wish they'd just remove oversized fitting, just put a hard limit in saying you can't put the wrong size prop mod on anything, you can't put subcap-specific mods on caps or cap mods on subcaps
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>it doesn't have any restriction written on it
:^)
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>>141045513
also, cap shield extender gives you a lot more hp than a plate
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>>141046352
It doesn't, but you can't fit it (yet) in game.
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>>141046301
itll work, but you throw away like 80k ehp for 100dps more and more range
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>>141046805
forgot picture
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>>141046996
will it fit to a rokh? you could get mad ehp
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>rokh
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>>141047471
are you telling us that pyfa is in fact shit
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>launcher downloads update
>log in
>interface is gone

Thanks Cunt Cologne Productions!
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>>141047663
Eft will give you the same thing
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in b4 ccp stuff up this "hotfix"
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>>141049838
Works fine on my machine :^)
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If I fit a T1 frigate to have a 2.0s warp time should I safe from ganks (outside of null)?
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>>141053883
yes except getting instapopped on camped stations. and make sure that's a 2s warp time
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>>141053883
No, you would need LESS than 2.0

1.9 in eft and pyfa
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>>141053995
no, you can have an align time of 2s and a warp time of 2s
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>>141053934
But how can I get instapoped? Shouldn't I be in warp before they can target me?
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>>141054375
when docking and not using a bookmark, you can land outside of docking range

when undocking and not using a bookmark, you are not warping from a standstill, which means your align time is longer than your paper align time, unless there's something sort of in front of you you can warp to
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What can one do with a Megathron?
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>>141054672

Shoot stuff?
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>>141054672
be worse than a hyperion
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>>141054471
Ok so I'll set up bookmarks for the docking. But can't you stop your ship after undocking, stay invulnerable, then warp?
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>>141054934
I'm not sure if it properly fully stops enough to not add a tick to your warp desu, maybe someone else knows
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>>141054672
Grappler+web+scram+T2 large blaster+a bit of manual piloting = dead svipuls.
People use this to solo roam in battleshits for fun because T1 insurance is really high and you lose some 100 mil per megathron and kill retards in svipuls.
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>>141055260

Megathrons fuck T3 cruisers.
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>>141055260
hyperion is better

>>141055345
most t3 cruisers are proteuses and tengus
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join tengoo
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>you
>guard
>never ever
>tfw
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life of a pizza

rip delve & fountain good times
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>>141054197
Not always. It depends on the rounding.

I wasn't aware but apparantly EFT added this info so you can confirm how quickly you will warp.
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>>141058276
>Not always

I'm the one saying not always. there's a bunch of ships with 2s align and 2s warp out, so the guy saying you need 1.9 is retarded
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>all these faggots concerned with pvp shit
>meanwhile I am making mad shekels mining in high sec

''l33t'' pvpers when will they learn?

Also post more reyni.
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>mining
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>>141058925
> people still ganking miners
It's barely more entertaining than mining itself.
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>>141059320
Ending fun is entertaining.
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>CODE
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>>141058925
>>141059320
>>141059703

mad poors ''l33t'' pvpers.

How does it feel to be the literal cucks of eve?
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>code
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>>141059703
> mining
> fun
wat
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>>141059845
I just like blowing ships up. If it's a new player in like a venture I'll fee bad and send him 5mil isk though.
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how the fuck do I learn to solo fight. Do I just buy a couple of affordable frigates and go through popular areas? not sure what else to try.
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>>141060315

Well what do you think? What does common sense dictates?

Get the most expensive shit that you are obviously going to lose? Or get cheap shit? How is that even a question?
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>>141060315
it's better to fly with m8s. it's hard to learn when you just get fucked over and over by people abusing overpowered ships
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>>141058276
the fuck is align time and warp time?

I know what align time is but what the fuck does warp out time mean? Once your align is set you instantly warp thats the purpose of sub 2s align times
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>>141059957
>The New Order of Highsec continues to recognize The Mittani as the legitimate Chairman of the CSM.

Kek
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>>141060515
You need to accelerate to like 70% of your speed to enter warp. Acceleration is dependent on agility, mass, speed.
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>>141060809
>70%
75%

that still doesn't tell me the difference between align time and "warp time"
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>>141060960
Align time: time needed for ship to spin around and align to a celestial

Warp time: time needed for ship to enter warp, with all relevant factors like aligning, achieving warpable velocity
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>>141061382
>spin around
ships have no direction, your ship turns around and its purely visual

the time it takes to instantly get into warp is the align time. this is what sub-2s interceptor fits have always been about. They get into warp in sub 2 seconds which is when their speed gets above 75% (in less than 2 seconds)
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how's provi?
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>tfw you regret not making a meme name
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>>141029138
I've been everywhere man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvBpLbNik_U
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>>141060960
align time in EFT is rounded to the nearest 0.1s. warp time is rounded up to the nearest second. TQ has a 1s 'tick rate', so the warp time is more relevant for how long you will be on grid when trying to warp from 0m/s. 2s warp time is uncatchable, but 3s is still really difficult. it's something to take into account even if you aren't making travel ceptor shitfits
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>fun
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Fleet formations when? 5 years? 10 years?
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>>141063426
Pyfa is rounded to the nearest thousandth of a second

another example of how pyfa is flat out better
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>>141064038
fly your own ship scrub
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>>141064073
>thinking unnecessary bells and whistles makes something better
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>>141064287
>unnecessary
If EFT just rounded to a more accurate digit it wouldn't need something as superfluous as a "warp time" indicator
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Anyone got some funky Cerberus fits?

Not in pyfa please.
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>>141064151

But imagine, the new AOE titan weapon, the bombers aoe. I mean if one day they decide to make combat a little bit more, you know, less than lock + f1 + secondary modules and drones.

I mean, I just want some fucking LoTG shit on this.
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t4 cruisers when?
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tfw you get dogged
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>>141065994
When the talocan show up
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>>141066345
At this rate that'll be 2025 maybe.

That drifter arc went nowhere either.
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>tfw there are actually symmetryfags in /eog/
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>rattlesnake launches 4 warriors
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>tfw so insignificant nobody noticed you died
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I WAS THERE!
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>>141068048
HE WAS THERE
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>>141068219
>>141068048
WE WERE THERE!
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>>141068048
>>141068219
>>141068395
THEY WERE THERE
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>>141068516
>>141068395
>>141068219
>>141068048
IT WAS dog
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>>141068774

haha so funny

+1
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>>141066661
That'll progress when player stargates happen.
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>>141069352

what would the point of player made stargates be?
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>>141069332
>
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>tfw there are actually asymmetryfags in /eog/
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>>141069953
best waifu
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>>141054934
>But can't you stop your ship after undocking, stay invulnerable, then warp?
If you give your ship a movement command (yes, that includes stopping) then your ship becomes collidable, and thus susceptible to bumps.
So even if it doesn't end your invuln, it's not a foolproof method.
On the align/warp time topic: Is the 1 second tickrate server-side or client-side?

If it's client, then rounding the warp time up to a full second is always the correct time.
If it's the server however, then the rounding up is the worst possible time (warp message reaching server just after the tick), with best equal to your align time.

In the latter case - if you're doing some stupid full nomads with 1.1 align time - your warp time is anywhere between 1.1 s and 2.0 s depending on luck, with 1.55 s average.

So - does anyone know if the ticks are on client or server?
Should be easily testable.
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>>141069710
Could be to reach previously unreachable pocket of space (that would be fun)

Could allow new junction between regions, bypassing some jumps (could be fun if you can ask a toll for those better routes)
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>>141069710
When they talked about it at fanfest, it sounded like it would replace jump bridges.

Underwhelming as fuck.
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>>141070264
Server-side of course.
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>>141069710
Nigga there are huge holes on the map. The gate network doesn't cover them for whatever the fuck reason, but in one of those holes theres the location of the last yet unseen shatterred system in k-space.
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remove jump bridges
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>>141070605

And why do the stargates need to be player made?
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>>141070264
>(yes, that includes stopping) then your ship becomes collidable
Actually it's anything but stopping
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>>141070789
Why would the empires build them? To give capsuleers more space to conquer? Lmao.
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>>141070901

By that logic the gates into null should be replaced by player made gates, dont they?
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>>141069953
not having an insane problem with asymmetry doesn't make you a -fag
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>>141070996
All the present stargates are old as fuck and the whole network was build for decades. Nobody didn't even imagine that something like capsuleers could even exist. Null gates aren't some thing built in the last few years or so.
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>>141070470
So the only remaining question is:
Is the it-takes-full-seconds-to-enter-warp a hardcoded rule (shouldn't be the case considering you can align manually and press the warp-out when you feel like it).
Or can you really enter warp in 1.1s with a full nomads?

>>141070789
emergent gameplay
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>>141071298

So the gate is built and this gives you entrance to new space and in this space you also need to built more gates to connect to other areas of space or something like that right?

Yeah... I dont think CCP will ever do this.

Cant you see they are working on Project Arena ? And more dust shooters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT6SAjIzPE0
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>>141070845
Really?
Thanks for correcting me.
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>VR
Yeah, just like google glass was suppossed to be the next big thing amirite xD
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>Just lost my ship and realize I'm now locked out of doing anything but mining or doing station trading games to make back enough money to start up again

Misery covers me like a blanket. Tuck me in and let me die.
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>>141065040
>custom formation editor
>dick shaped fleets everywhere

Could be fun.
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>>141071795
what did you lose? post lossmail
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>>141071795
what did you lose m8
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>>141071868

I hope you dont think theres anything wrong with that.
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>post killmail
>revealing your identity on /eog/

kreydis pls
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>>141071454
Not him but I think player made Stargate would be an amazing thing to have in conjunction with citadels

Gates could be built and destroyed just like the citadel. Alliances could bridge gaps to other Alliances or set up gates to get to higher value areas quickly

They'd obviously cost more to set up and maintain than jump bridges and possibly go further than then too

These could be effectively destroyed and given permissions for use like docking rights at a station or even open to all people. You could even charge a fee to use it like a docking fee
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>>141072058

>player made Stargate would be an amazing thing to have

Nobody said it wouldt.

But thats the biggest reason why it probably wont happen. Afterall, its CCP.
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>>141071563
Yea it's really important

You have 30 seconds of invulnerable after you undock and doing anything except stopping will break it

Really important for places like hits where excessive lag might cause your screen to take longer to load so they give you that time
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>>141071890
L4 Machariel, deadspace shield rep and invuln. Was locked down by like four different perma-scramming frigates, all my drones were chewed to bits the second I deployed them, autocannons couldn't touch them. Ran out of cap, you can guess the rest.

Not gonna ask for charity or handouts, was just venting my frustration. I'll work up enough scratch to get a cheap sentry Domi with T2 fit and I'll be back in action.
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>>141071968
Fuck no. Anything that promotes player creativity is a good thing. Even if most abuse it, some will do great things.
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>>141072174
>But thats the biggest reason why it probably wont happen. Afterall, its CCP.
Is this a reference of some kind or do you really think ccp won't do it because of some arbitrary reason?
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>>141072350

Its pretty obvious as it is, its a ''too good to be true'' scenario.
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>>141071347
Everything in this game is based on one-second ticks.

> you press warp
> the server registers you want to warp on the next tick (tick 0)
> 1 second passes and tick 1 is reached, you're still not aligned so you don't warp
> 1.1 second passes, nothing happens because the server doesn't process it until the next tick is reached
> the second tick happens at 2 seconds and you are aligned, so you enter warp

This is how the game works. There is no way around it. They mentioned at fanfest that it might be possible (technically) to lower it to half second ticks, but that would require a huge effort and they don't know what consequences it will have on a variety of things.

One second ticks are here to stay for the forseeable future.
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>>141072207
This is why you fit a mjd in missions, no exception.
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>>141073379
Missions are predictable. There is no way to fit a defensive MJD if you can read eve survival.
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>that one guy who spews dank memes in local
>tfw hes in your corp
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>>141073562
>no way
*no way to justify fitting a defensive MJD if you can read eve survival
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join all-out
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>>141074135
do you guys meme a lot?
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>>141073614
>posting in local
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>>141073379
I had one for the longest time, took it off after I started learning the missions (haha how fucking stupid of me). I knew there were going to be some scram frigs going in, but I thought my drones would last long enough to take care of them (they didn't). I was trying to do a blitz run of the mission and shit got out of hand quickly.

Combination of bad luck and bad decisions. I'm mad as shit right now, but I know I could have been smarter about it. I didn't/don't have the capital to be risking pimp ships for blitzing missions, and I probably had it coming. I'll just go back to slowboating and sniping, considerably safer and less expensive to fit for.

Maybe now I'll try to learn how to do burner missions, too. If I could handle those missions I wouldn't need to be doing risky, expensive BS Blitz fits to make decent income.
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>>141074412

Its just another group with unfunny idiots and ''le elite wormhole pevepee'' players.

You can do better by searching and joining other corps.
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>elite
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>>141075135
so biohazard tier, thanks m8
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>>141073078
Yes, I understand this much. However I was thinking there could be interpolation between ticks.
So for instance, if you align in 1.5s, you will enter warp in second tick, but you will accelerate in warp bubble as if you entered it after 1.5s (0.5s offset).

Another thing I'm wondering about is: are the server ticks only for new activations/actions (pressing a module, doubleclicking in space, etc) or are they for everything, including things with decimal cycle time (of course that's not an issue since clients can resolve the order of modules in real-time).


Because if it takes a tick for EVERYTHING then considering the following:
- Average human reaction time is 190 ms.
- Assume gatecamper's has ping of 50 ms.
- Assume gatecamper's a triple-sebo'd Svipul that can lock you in 0.7 (Astero's sig radius)
- Assume gatecamper is anticipating you and his response time is equal to his reaction time.
- Your align time is 1.9s
Then:
- There's 24% chance you get an extra tick over him due to 190+50ms time it will take for his locking action to be registered by server
- If you don't get an extra tick there's 100% chance his <1s lock time gets you, and since there's no post-locking activation delay, you're tackled
- If you do get an extra tick, you're both in the same tick, with the deciding factor of "who wins" being: is your 0.9s smaller than his 0.75s + reaction time

So then, on average you have 24% chance to avoid a Svipul tackle on gate.
If there was an interpolation, then that "extra tick" scenario wouldn't save you, as the half-tick-arriving message would have halved camper's locktime giving him something like 0.3-0.4 priority next tick, which your measle 0.9 remaining align time can't match.

So is there tick interpolation or not? I know there's client-side interpolation (guns firing in order of cycles even if they are decimal times), but how about server-side?
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>>141076689
What you describe does not exist as far as the server is concerned.
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>>141075028
>took it off after I started learning the missions
I'm still sweating when I get disrupted in my paper-tank L4 boat.
One day I'm gonna agro an entire room, get scrambled and die. Im gonna be just as sad as you.

Also - if this happens in the future then just gtfo out of range of big guns / kill them asap.
You should be able to tank 4 frigates indefinitely (right?) and as mission AI is stupid they turn off their ewar occasionally, 4 at once sounds crappy, but given an hour you should get a cycle with none of them disrupting you.

PS: Don't forget you can burn your modules in a pinch. This saved my ass in missions more times than I'd like to admit. tfw thermodynamics II
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>>141077480
Sounds legit.
Thanks for bearing with me, I appreciate it greatly.
The theorycrafter in me can finally rest.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKbGuzWoHLY
guess who's back
back again
shad'ys back
tell a friend
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>>141073753
You know that the 100km jump is extremely usefull in many missions ?
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TALOCAN ARE THE REAL ENEMY
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>>140983337
It's true, all of it
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>>141078013
Name one mission where a MJD is useful on a Mach.
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>missions
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>>141079482
>on a Mach

Goalposts rocketting
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>>141077787
not that guy, but another thought to remember when it come to gatecamping, or rather warping out of gate cloak, is latency doesn't actually mean shit at this point.

You're cloaked until the server receives your input to break cloak (in this case that input will be a warp input), then everything else is done server side, doesn't matter it it takes longer to come back and tell your client that you've entered warp.

"insta"warping from gate cloak with 1ms or 2kms is exactly the same.
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>>141080163
Correct.

Well technically you're wrong because with 2k+ ping you'll warp 2 ticks later
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>>141080484
true, but you'll still be cloaked for those 2 ticks, so for the purpose of warping from gate cloak, it's the same.
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>>141080076
The poster lost a mach. Someone told him he should've had a MJD. I interjected adding that defensive MJDs are stupid.
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>>141080163
>>141080484
>>141080830
But in case of locking someone on gate, if you have 2k ping and you try to lock a 2s warpout ship as soon as it appears, when your message arrives to the server, the server will just say "derp, you're too late, that guy is in warp".

I know it makes no difference in terms of warpout safety, but it makes a difference for lock time (if you're the one gatecamping), since server gets your "I pressed lock on that guy" message sooner, and your 0.7s (or 1s considering ticks) starts ticking away quicker, the few ms of ping may be the difference between getting one tick sooner. Or not.
>>
>new EVE trailer
>its banjo flying around getting rekt in the same way over and over again
>"Be a meme" in a calm deep voice
>trailer end

https://zkillboard.com/kill/53763370/
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can someone explain the benji meme
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>>141082391
Bunch of incompetent literally whos hating on a up-and-coming solo pvp star.
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>>141081485
Alright, my bad on that one
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If I fly around highsec in a faction battleship with just rigs, is there much of a risk I will get ganked?
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>>141083620
Generally no, but just slap some large shield extenders and invulns on there to be sure.
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>>141083620
Probably not. But make sure that your corp/alliance is not at war.
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>>141083620
Sample size of one, but I think no.
I even flown into Jita in one, no one gave a second thought.

Then again, buying a rack of reinforced bulkhead I for 27k/pop + damage control and reselling it one you get to your destination for a net loss of <10k isk is a no-brainer.
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>>141084074
>>141084285
>>141084328
So would I be safer if I left any tank mods on?
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>>141084460
As long as they aren't expensive, yes of course.
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>>141084460
>So would I be safer if I left any tank mods on?

There are hundreds of faction battleships flying around at any moment. If you are carrying expensive loot/modules, there is a chance you might get ganked for them (if you are carrying above a billion). Otherwise it's a not very likely, but don't autopilot and don't leave your ship afk in 0.5 systems.
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> looking for a wormhole to plop a citadel in and do some PI with my alts
> every single C1 and C2 has active posses
> even the ones with shit planets
Must have scanned 50 holes by now. Fucking hell looks like I'm gonna have to evict some carebears.
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>Scenes on the streets of Minmatar cities were characterized by barbaric acts of burning effigies and bizarre pantomiming of lewd acts.
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Some faggot in a Brutix came up to me earlier in a .9 system.

I am pilotting a Hulk.

Can the guy blap me in time before concord gets to the place?
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>>141093225
In a .9 system probably not, no.
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>amarr
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>>141097072
>Not Amarr
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>>141015524

I want lp removed as well. Eventually I want factions removed.
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>gas mining
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So how do I make a profit with my shitzillion loyalty points?

Please some, some gook give me a lead.
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Do we have any updated manufacturing costs for capitals yet?

I've checked the online calculators but they're still burdened with out of date pricing.

I'm looking at kick starting my fighter manufacturing program again when I resub
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>I have to wait at least a week and a half to start really mining

Fucking gay if I'm honest.
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>>141103206
dude just look at the items that you can get and then look at their market stats. and remember that the biggest most expensive shit may not make you the most money. what do people use a lot?

>>141103392
idk how high the demand is for fighters right now, lots of people are just using dreads and faxes. carriers are more or less solo e-peen boats
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>>141103410

More like 40 days ~ to get in a Hulk anon.

Sorry.
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>Goons die
>EVE Online enters an age of content richness and turmoil
>subscribers skyrocket
>Trump gets elected
>First president in recent memory that actually fights for the American peoples interests at home and abroad.

The world is taking a turn for the better anons.
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>>141103890
About 2 weeks until I can activate my 6 miners and orca pilot that are inactive right now.

I need to either set up a pos or a citadel though so I can compress ore. Compressing ore is all I care about though, fuck reprocessing in highsec.
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>>141104279

>Compressing ore is all I care about though, fuck reprocessing in highsec.

Why not use the same POS you are talking about to reprocess it?
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>>141104119
>Goons die
Goons move to another game, have been preparing for death of EVE for years. Common knowledge.

>age of content richness
Eh, I hope so. Not crossing my fingers though. History tends to repeat itself with fresh faces.

>Skyrocketing subscribers
hoooboy I wouldn't count on that one.

>First US president that was a literal scam artist his whole life
The president we deserve, but not the one that we need. You'd be better off with Gaben at the helm, at least he knows how to run a successful (if shitty) company.
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>>141104119

>trump supporters

But Trump is just a meme anon.
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>>141104562
Kaiche and Cruz dropped out.

It's Trump Time
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>>141104459
>don't have the pic of trumps hundreds of successful businesses on this computer.

fuck my life.

Trump is a bad businessman is a horrible meme though.
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>hillary supporters
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>>141104705
Found it.
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>>141104629

I am sorry to tell you this anon but hes not winning =/
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>>141105150
This.
Only reason he beat Cruz is because Cruz was basically a pod person that couldn't resonate with anyone. Trump at least had retards and memesters to back him.
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any good corps in provi?
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>>141105150
>liberal middle class computer science majors actually think that the vast majority of US citizens would find having Donald Trump as a president so embarrassing that they would rather have lying, femnazi, literally might be incarcerated for treason/incompetence Hillary Clinton as president especially after the liberal abomination called Obamas presidency that involved the government SHUTTING DOWN, banks ROBBING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE with the governments help, a government healthcare program with a website that doesn't even fucking work and has basically just led to hundreds of thousands of americans getting fined for not having healthcare.

Most Americans love Donald Trump. Ronald Reagan was literally a movie star before he was president so its not like shit like The Apprentice is even a huge unscalable stain on his canedacy.

Especially when you factor in how much he is going to absolutely SAVAGE Hillary in the presidential debates. I live in washington state less than an hour from Seattle, even here, in a state that just legalized weed and gay marriage the average citizen is absolutely disgusted at the debauchery that politically correct and federal government agenda is responsible for.

The counterculture of Obamas fuck-ups that started with the Tea Party movement has reached the mainstream and has been given a living Avatar in the form of GOD EMPEROR DONALD J. TRUMP.

repent liberal degenerates.
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>>141106218

>Most Americans love Donald Trump

You know this is not true anon.

And you an I know this is nothing but a big meme.
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>>141106218
I also live in washington state, about 2 hours from seattle, and you're so full of shit it hurts. No one here wants hillary or trump
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>>141106218
Are you seriously trying to draw connections between Tea party and Obama?

Also the bank heists were during Bush Jr. 800 billion $ and nothing to show for it but a Lear Jet?

The whole world hates Hillary. She's a frosty relic and only important because her husband was.

Ronald Reagan is literally on film being told what to do by a banker. He was a bonafide puppet, not a leader. Your last democratically elected president was Jimmy Carter, when will accept that the reins of american destiny has been lost?
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>>141106675
Explain why trump rallies are seeing numbers never before shown in a republican primary then?

All the people that hate Trump.

>the liberal media
>over half of the conservative media
>most politicians

They're all people that are hated even more by the general population. Nobody trusts the media or politicians anymore.

>>141106912
I live on the Key Peninsula and most people, save like teachers, doctors, ect are voting for Trump.

>>141107036
I'm drawing connections between Obama fucking up and the tea party being formed to counteract obama care ect.
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>>141107237
Where are you getting the "most people" statistic from? Everywhere I drive, from Bellingham to Renton, has fucking Bernie shit everywhere. I haven't seen jack shit supporting Trump. Also
>Except for teachers, doctors
Oh, you mean generally more intelligent people. Got it
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>>141107237

Anon, we get it, you are having fun aboard the big Trump meme just like everybody else, but you gotta realize the guy is not winning.

Its not like votes matter, you gotta be naive if you believe in this whole democratic election.
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CORPS
IN
PROVI
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>>141107398
>he has never worked for or with teachers or doctors

More intelligent is a strong term anon. More educated in their profession, maybe, intelligence depends on the person. I'm not saying I have a lot to show for myself, I pretty much just do yard work, mostly its yard work for richer/older folks that are either to fat/lazy/old to do it themselves. I'm not knocking the older folks because some of them are super cool and genuinely smart. But I work for several doctors that are straight up retarded. One of them was filling up his gas tank and he asked me if the car would blow up if he didn't screw on the gas cap completely.
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>>141107838

Eh I am pretty sure you would make some dumb ass comments related to their field of work and they would look down on you like you do to them.

Sure, you might be more down to earth on this ''common knowledge'' stuff. But thats just that, common knowledge.
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>>141078003
>no prop
the moment people realize he's not fucking moving they rape him from greater than 15km
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I am rather new and really enjoying trading in this game so far, could anybody help me out by answering a couple of questions?

> is there a good chat channel for haulers, or should I just put up a contract if I need something hauled?
> what is the go-to price for hauling? I usually need around 5000m3 transported from highsec to highsec.
> any tips maybe to avoid common newby trader mistakes?
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>>141108289
Fine lets look at EVE then. Sure they might just not be familiar with EVE's mechanics, everyone starts off being unfamiliar with the mechanics. Which players you trust to be smart, to be resourceful leaders, to be ambitious and clever has nothing to do with their professions in real life or even their level of schooling.

Education is not the same as intelligence. You can be intelligent and not be able to read. I'm not a scientist but I'd still argue that most real intelligence is born from struggle for survival, its practice, the more you are backed into a corner and forced to really adapt and take responsibility for your own welfare or the welfare of others the better you are going to be at it.

There is a lot of retarded college grads that have grown in an enviroment where they have never had to think for themselves, where their survival was always a matter of fact, sure they went to school and learned their subject but you can do that while remaining an honest to god absentminded retard that can't learn from their mistakes.

Living proof is in the big whale retards that get caught with 98 Plex in a shuttle and think that their death wasn't complete stupidity on their part because they're "lawyers in real life".
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>>141109064
> is there a good chat channel for haulers, or should I just put up a contract if I need something hauled?

use Red Frog Freight or PushX I think PushX is cheaper right now, they'll haul a freighters worth of stuff at a consistent rate, they charge per jump.

> any tips maybe to avoid common newby trader mistakes?

Honestly trading is pretty easy, I assume you aren't talking about station trading so I'll keep my advice to like active trading between hubs. Always make sure that the good is being traded on a consistent basis at the price you plan on flipping it for. Basically watch out for sudden and insane jumps in the price history and watch out for items that almost never sell.
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>>141109098

Now you are just... I dont know what the fuck you are trying to do anon.

But yeah, Trump may not win.
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>>141104902
He might be good at business, but look at that autistic-as-fuck level of narcissism.
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>>141109559
Exactly I do a job thats common sense and should be performable by anyone without any sort of special training. I have the excuse of not going to 8 years of med school. They're excuse is not being able to think about the obvious conclusion that if cars needed super secure gas caps then obviously there would be warnings all over the gas cap, we'd probably have machines specifically design to securely fill gas tanks, and the same gas engine/tank system wouldn't be used for handheld devices like chainsaws and weed wakers.

One of these things is specialized training thats abstract and isn't related to intelligence. The other is about observation and putting information together.

EG. You don't need to be smart to be a doctor, you need years of specialized training.
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>>141110116

These are some high quality spins, for a second I though this was Mittens talking.
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>>141062467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAzK8lFluSA
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>>141109064
>>141109659
NEE is even cheaper than PushX (made by ex-PushX staff who got fed up with the leadership retardation)

http://www.neexpress.net/index.php
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As somebody that does incursions I feel dirty at how easy it is to just print isk doing them.

CCP should remove this shit or nerf them.

Game should be more unforgiving when it comes to making isk.
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>>141109857
I'm just saying its hard to pinpoint intelligence and that in my experience your job is more related to your upbringing/families resources than actual intelligence. The only way I've been able to tell if someone is more intelligent than me or dumber than me is through actually talking to them and hanging out in some sort of situation where we are doing a task. It isn't even about whether they can do the task well or not either. Like I said its hard to explain and I've definitely met people that are more intelligent than me before, and when you meet people that are more intelligent than you its an actual awe inspiring sight, you want to follow them and see where they go in life.

Like it honestly has nothing to do with whether they can do the task either. Like I said its hard to qauntify, but its more about like, they're presence when solving a problem or encountering a situation they have never encountered before.

I'm sure there is plenty of extremely intelligent gangbangers from poor families in ghetto neighborhoods that will never go to college, a lot of the really smart ones probably realize that they don't need to go to college, they realize that society doesn't opperate based on hard set rules and you are actually free to do anything to make a living.
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>>141114073

Wait so opening peoples up, identifying the issue, fixing the issue and sealing it up doesnt require observation nor putting information together?
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>>141109857
His point is essentially the difference between storage and computational power in a computer.

Imagine giving an old 386 a 1TB hard drive. Good luck getting any use from it.
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>>141114454
I know what I'm trying to say now.

Intelligence is awareness. People that are smart and can see patterns, that can take control of situations, that are counted on are aware. Strategists, entrepreneurs, people that outsmart other people generally boil down to the person who is more aware.
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>>141114567

Oh no I get what hes trying to do, I just find the whole thing silly, desu.

It slowly becomes one of those cases were college kids who underperformed in life and quit it start dissing other peoples work in a desperate effort to feel better themselves. But thats just a wild guess.
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>>141114717

And Doctors are none of that?
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>>140906374

>Be in Snuff
>4 corps leave
>Numbers during EU/AU times stay the same
>USTZ down by around 20 people
>Inactives purged themselves

Breddy gud slope to play on.
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>>141114770
Not the guy in question but I probably qualify for this.

In a contracting market where my customers are going out of business entirely I am ticking along on the 2nd lowest wages I've ever earned.

I dunno what to think about it, at least I'm looking at other professions, other locations to live in, other fields of expertise to work in.

In the long term finishing off my university education as well, but skipping the degree itself. Just buy the fucking course books those dumb bastards just rip them off anyway.
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>>141114770
Nah I never went to college and I actually think our college system works extremely well in the states. I can't think of anyone that was really and truly smart that didn't get a full scholarship and could basically do whatever they wanted to do.

>>141114894
If you look back to what I said before I said "intelligence depends on the person" and what I meant by that is that I don't think being a doctor as a profession has a strong relation to intelligence. I don't think being a lawyer has a strong relation to intelligence, or being an engineer, or being a scientist. They're all jobs with specialized knowledge, which is different than intelligence, and I think flaunting a skill profession as a badge of intelligence like ">Except for teachers, doctors
Oh, you mean generally more intelligent people. Got it" is stupid.
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>>141115409
Also I want to say that surgeons are different than doctors.

I don't think the pressure of cutting someone open and not fucking anything up is even kind of comparable to looking at patients medical charts in an office and checking their blood pressure.
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>>141115409

So you dont need to be smart to become a doctor and, on top of that, you theres no such thing as observation and putting information together right?
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>>141115112
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>>141116458
Idk if thats the case but I've met plenty of stupid doctors. I imagine that the average doctor spends 8 years of med school memorising patterns of illness and their methods of solving the illness and that the on the job observation and pattern recognition is related to those memorized patterns.

Most doctors I know would probably pass off the patient to someone else if they didn't know the answer "the best decision" but also further proof that what a doctor markets and the reason they are more valuable/make more money isn't intelligence, its memorization and specialized knowledge.

If people can memorise and use the books related to running a game of GURPS or Dungeons and Dragons 3.5 you could probably memorize and use the specialized knowledge that you learn in your 8 years of medical school to diagnose the common illnesses that 99.9% of doctors deal with. I've also met stupid people that can memorize and use RPG rulebooks as well.
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>>141117203

I see.

Comparing an entire profession to videogame books... clever girl.

However I stand on my assumption >>141114770

Personally I tend to stay away from making assumptions over topics I have no knowledge off, and you should too.

However I do think you should try to see through those bad doctors, and direct your concerns to an actual good one.

I think you will be surprised and you will learn a valuable lesson.

Back to the original topic: The Trump train is fun and all, but gotta get your feet back on the ground and realize that the guy may not win.
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>>141118008
you just proved his point for him

>i think you should try to see through those bad doctors and talk to the good ones

no shit - he isn't claiming that all doctors are stupid, he's claiming that being a doctor isn't inherently a sign of intelligence - it's a sign of many lot of years of experience developing a particular set of skills and pool of knowledge

> mocking a perfectly valid and on-point analogy

> condescending like a trifling bitch without actually making a response to his argument
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>/eog/ - Politics, Medical, and Sociology
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I bet Reyni is somehow responsible for this.
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>>141104425
compressed ore sells for more than the reprocessed ore in highsec. Its also easier to transport. You need null reprocessing rates/arrays for the dank ISK.
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which dev is /eog/?
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>>141120268

On the case senpai

With Banjo at my side, what could possibly go wrong.

Oh dear...
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/amarr-succession-committee-announces-september-date-for-coronation-of-empress-catiz-i/
>Scenes on the streets of Minmatar cities were characterized by barbaric acts of burning effigies and bizarre pantomiming of lewd acts.
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DAE LE BLACK PEOPLE XDDD
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>>140909174
Those are the best episodes not gonna lie
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can someone give me an invite trial?
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>>141115112
>>141117101
Cynicism aside if true then it's no wonder the leadership were such complete dicks about it.

It could definitely be worse, you could always be in, say, razor, with their 15 people online average head count. 0.1% active member count, the rest AFK for years without consequence.
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>>141131149
spam filter a reyni
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>>141133421
What's the purpose of this post? Talking about your post, anon
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>Kevin no longer makes the OP
>mandelor banned
>stunt unbanned
>pizza dead
>tengoo dead
>white tree dead (good actually)
>MBC starting to show fracturing
>goons might not die
>no new dogs
>citadels don't have region markets

These are darker days friends
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>>141134036
Wait why was Mandelor banned?
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>>141134350
He wasnt, its just memeposting
Just like the rest of his post
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>>141134350
For harassing/threatening Fozzie despite not actually doing it
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>>141134036
>citadels don't have region markets
They do?
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>log in yesterday
>kill 2 bil worth of shit
>login today
>kill 800 mil of shit
Im starting to like this whole "logging in" deal
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>Armor tanked blaster Sin.
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>armor sin
Was he ratting?
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Is Stratios without sentries/heavies viable in PvP? only tech 2 meds.
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>>141136571
sure, if you're only using it to gank explorers in wormhole space.
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>>141136571
> sentries
> stratios
wat
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>>141136571
Use faction heavies
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9P0f3KJCtE
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>>141138742
>tfw familiar face
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>>141109935

>moving the goalpost.mpeg
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can u not
pls
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anyone else think it would be a good idea to start an isis type corp in eve online, at perma war with anyone who isn't part of the corp?
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>>141140927
Join amarr/minnie FW.
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>>141140927
you mean like those elite highsec pvpers?
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>>141140927
That's how most wormhole corps work, they attack everyone. Then they go sell their sleeper stuff (oil) to Turkey and Saudi Arabia (Amarr).
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>Amarr
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>>141140927
most pvpers kill everyone
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>>141141203
inshalla brother
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What's its like in All-Out? Which hole do they live in?
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>>141142254
I want to live in Reyni's holes
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>>141140927
Wars aren't free m8.

Starting fee is 50m/week and can go up to 500m/week depending on how many members they have.

If you dec everyone in highsec for one week you will pay dozens of billions.

Besides, wouldn't an isis style corp just join the masses and then suicide gank high profile targets? That's a much better fit if you ask me.
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What's a solid income after exploration.
Explore until I get a decent BP and then copy and manufacture?
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>>141144824
Exploration remains a good way to make money when it comes to investment-per-profit.

Mission blitzing, wormhole stuff, incursions make more in constant streams. Combat exploration can make nice chunks if you luck out.
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>>141144941
Yeah I am looking for a more solid income where exploration is more of luck based and hoping to god someone doesnt tear you a new hole when you're back from nullsec alone in your shitbox heron

I'll probably look into WH shit as missions and incursions seem boring and risk-less
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>>141145172
>I'll probably look into WH shit as missions and incursions seem boring and risk-less

Join a WH corp tbqh. To go into random wormholes solo (called daytripping) for sites is just asking to get killed.
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>>141145250
I am a man of danger and have nothing to lose
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>>141145278
Better start fitting dat rattlesnek then
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>>141145172
I'm gonna start a low class wormhole corp soon(tm). Planning to put a medium citadel in there.

Finding a suitable jew hole is hard work though. Scanned about 80 so far and the ones that have good resources are taken so I'd have to evict some guys first.
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>>141145475
why's it hard when there's thousands of Anoikis systems in EVE?
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>>141145538
I mainly want one with good planets for PI, which is rare enough to start with. It also needs to be a low class hole because I don't want capital ships showing up at my citadel.

These two things I want at the bare minimum.

Other than that, I would also prefer if it didn't have a wormhole effect that would give potential attackers any advantage against the citadel (like increased remote rep effectiveness or whatever) and optimally even an effect that boosts missiles to enhance the citadel's dps.

I'm relatively new to wormholes though so feel free to tell me why my ideas are stupid.
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>>141145475
What class do you need? I come upon empty low-classes fairly often.
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>>141145475
You could always buy a hole chaim
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>>141146098
>feel free to tell me why my ideas are stupid

Low-class wormholes with hisec statics and good PI will be bashed more often than C4s or low-class whs with weird statics.

The baller thing to do is to live in a C3>NS, or C2>NS/C5 if you can blob&bomb.
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>>141146181
see >>141146098

Like I said I scanned about 80, now going on 90 holes and none are really suitable. If they are, they're taken and it seems pretty much impossible to evict the locals by myself.
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>>141146282
My old corp had a PvE-only C2 with a medium tower (used to be a large but they changed it because of fuel costs) and they've never been attacked once in my ~2 years there. The occasional gang coming through is pretty much all we ever had to deal with.

I'm not sure how well a medium citadel holds up compared to a medium tower but I'm thinking the citadel has the advantage with fighters, bombs, webs, scrams and subcap missiles as well as invulnerability windows.
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>>141146282
Having lived in a C2-5/NS, it's horrible. Shit for PvE, shit for PvP, shit for connectivity. C3-NS is shit too. A C2-2/LS is much easier to manage, and you don't have to deal with niggers doing highsec games on your static. C4 with C2 or C3 statics are also great.
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just pointing out to the guy thinking about moving into wormholes that all-out lives in a wolf-rayet c4/4/3 with at least one citadel in place and more coming. the pi is reasonably good.
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>goons so desperate they start recruiting pedos and terrorists using a honeypot mail server
ayy
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>>141149930
wow thats a good wormhole how did they manage that?
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>wolf rayet
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>Lord's Servant
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>>141151450
I ran into a fleet he was in recently. he was being an insufferable cunt in local, but the rest of them seemed ok
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>them
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>>141151450
that's a pretty good picture
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>>141151583
anyone that implicitly follows the lords servant circlejerk is insufferable by nature
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>>141149930
>reasonably good
Post planet types. Wormholes have the best PI extraction rates so they must be pretty shit planet types if it's only "reasonably good"
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>>141149930
When did AO upgrade holes? Did you finally purge all the retards like Maow and Reyni? Post planet types.
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>>141154248
>Post planet types.

>implying PI shitters are allowed
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>>141149930
If you anchored a medium citadel (I assume, since large ones are only coming out of the oven right about now), you're going to have a nice lossmail on your board pretty soon.
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>>141154498
> all-out
> in a position to call anyone else a shitter
top kek m8
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>>141154498
epic argument faggot, I bet you only login for pings for le content xD
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>>141154648
>>141154661
It's ok to be upset for getting rejected before you even applied.
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>>141154498
> corp thefts left and right
> ridiculous lossmails all the time
> multiple evictions
> b-but PI shitters not allowed!
No wonder your corp is dying
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>>141154817

>>141154773
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https://youtu.be/0bjTrPutt4k

This ad is not accurate, it actually looks like you can have fun.
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>>141154882
implying I would ever consider joining a /dog/ corp in the first place
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>>141154773
I was in all-out before. Most of you fegs only logged in for le content and never actually contributed to the corp itself. Stay bad.
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>>141154963
>I-I'll just enjoy the game by staying in my 3-man personal tax heaven forever
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>>141155220
Stay mad
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>>141155396
>nullcuck f1 monkey acting like it's something to brag about

>muh structurebashing and tidi
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>>141155550
it's not null
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>>141155550
> le my space is better than your space maymay
> dumb frogposter
well at least you're consistent I suppose
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>>141156258
>> le my space is better than your space maymay

You can objectively measure the quality of different space classes. It's just a matter of establishing the criteria.

WH>NS>LS>HS desu
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>>141156530
>It's just a matter of establishing the criteria
So basically cherrypicking
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>>141155396
rvb?
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>>141156669
They're ded, Jim
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>>141156764
the only thing thats dead is leadership but people are still in it, at least thats what I heard
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>Upwell Consortium Announces Capsuleer Day!

https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/upwell-consortium-announces-capsuleer-day/
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>>141157051
Yeah on a weekday like 15 guys online, maybe 5 of those active and looking for a fight.

Even in the weekends it's pretty disappointing. It's not what it used to be and they don't get many new players applying because everyone thinks they're dead. Their "official closure" still pops up if you google them.

Their leadership really fucked them. My rvb alt is wasting away.
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http://www.pcgamer.com/eve-valkyrie-review/
>60%

CCP should really just stick to Eve online and stop wasting money on all this other shit.
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>pcgamer
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>>141158068
There aren't exactly a lot of reviews out for eve valkyrie to my knowledge.

Feel free to post them.
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>>141157624
lol
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>During the press conference, Yani Sar Arteu, Chief Executive of Outer Ring Excavations, praised “the commitment, industrial might and tenacity of Hard Knocks Citizens, who have been confirmed to be the first to erect a Fortizar class Citadel
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If I use the 1 month deal, will the other deals go away?
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>review scores
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>>141160091
> reviews
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>free
>buy
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>>141159991
my advice : sub for 1 month
what happens ? you love eve, you play well and make bank, maybe plex your second month
you dont like eve that much and regret subbing for 5 months, end up loging in every 3 days to check your skill queue

I subbed for 3 months a while ago and I'm not that much into the game, but it was only 30 eurodollars or something so its ok .
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>>141160951
Nah nigga ive subbed to EVE a 100 times but never learn to play it and then quit it for 3-12 months and try to learn again
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>>141160992
literally get m8s
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>>141161023
m8 im enjoying this im just retarded just like at life
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>>141160992
>>141161076
Are you me?
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>>141161076


I dont think the game is hard to play.

What is hard is finding something you can truly commit to and go for it, it means focused skill training, efficient play, making friends etc.
But you dont have to be a min maxing faget, just go find a ship you like in the ship tree, start training for it, google a few fits for the ship, look what they're good for, skill for it, etc.

look at that, isnt he cute ? thats a thrasher and he loves you too
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>he
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>she
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>>141161634
So I've been on and off about playing EVE, I've downloaded trials before and have a rough idea of how the game functions (although last time I played was a 21 day trial before the graphics update).

Is now a good time to start playing or is it like conventional MMOs where you have periods of the game being completely dead because no content? Last time I just did missions and it was tiresome, so I'm eager to try and make a proper effort in pvping and interacting with others.
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>>141163003
This game doesn't have a traditional content cycle like a theme park mmo. It certainly has periods of greater or lesser activity, but they're driven by a multitude of factors, not the least of which is the players and political dynamics. Now is a good time to start playing. Pick up another trial, get a buddy referral from someone here and if you end up subbing you'll get a nice chunk of starting money.

You have the right inclination as far as playing with other people, solo missions when you're just starting out can be really boring and shitty.
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>>141163003
no matter what you do everything is very mmo like in eve, at least thats how I've always felt

doing anything with people makes it more tolerable, I wish I had an irl friend who played eve

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
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So I recently moved an alt of mine to NPC 0.0 to do some PI and exploration. It's a really quiet area. I made a glaring oversight and put a colony on a world without a customs office. What are the chances that if my alt corp puts up a poco that it gets blasted within a couple days? 100%? Local residents seem to be scrubby Russians, never see fleets of more than 3-4 people.
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>get the ship you want
>No reason to keep playing as you can only go down from there.

They need to fix the progression issue
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>>141163941
>>141164036

Understood, if is there anything specific mechanically or politically that makes the game good for low SP pilots right now? I never really ventured beyond lowsec last time and I would be interested to get into the giant wars or at least moderate skirmishes that are just short of crippling lagstorms.
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>>141164606
There was/is a big war in northern 0.0. It seems like it's winding down, but there may be some kind of battle of the bulge last gasp from goons. Or they die off and then the coalition that was fighting against them all splinters and starts fighting amongst themselves. I know my own alliance, which is part of the anti goon coalition, is very close to resetting a shitload of people we have been blue with out of necessity for the past few months.
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>>141164491
No poco means no one gives a shit about that planet.

Put one up with 0% tax and they have even less reason to shoot it down.
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>>141165045
Hm okay. It's the only oceanic one in the constellation, but I haven't seen a single other colony on any of my other planets. Then again this is mostly a just for fun thing, I don't think I am making anything particularly profitable.
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>>141165042

Interesting, and I'm guessing the power vacuum and infighting/dissolving of convenient alliances could all flare up into their own major conflicts.

are there any recommended groups to try and side with? Last time I flew with Eve Uni but they were decidedly against PVP. Also is there much hope for low SP pilots to do roles beyond basic damage and warp scrambling in disposable frigates? I'd like to take a more supportive role, buffing/debuffing ships if possible.
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>>141165602
If your skills are maxed you can easily create p0 => p1 => p2 on a single planet.

For example my oceanic planet
> extract planctic colonies, turn into biomass
> extract complex organisms, turn into proteins
> use both of these to produce genetically enhanced livestock
> extract complex organisms
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>>141165042
Just to elaborate, what that means is there's opportunity for people to get into nullsec wars. There are groups like pandemic horde that recruit new players, other corps/alliances may have academy corps that train new players and then graduate them into the "real" corp. Now, don't get it twisted, being new means that your roles are gonna be limited, you will have to wait to fly stuff, fittings may not work, etc. But you will be able to fly and fight and people will teach you about the game. People play rough and you need a thick skin, but I find the community here is better than raiders in traditional mmos when it comes to teaching new people and taking care of your own. The biggest elitist pricks in my alliance will all bend over backwards to help and explain stuff to new people.
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I wish it was easier for people to find small corps. I don't want new people to think they have to join ph, kf, euni or whatever other massive meme corp
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>>141166453
>> extract complex organisms
woops accidental paste
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>>141166453
Yeah I can almost, my skills are all at 4. I'm going to make a cute little alt corp with a RP description and make ascendant implants so I'm just turning out mats for them. I will still make some money from selling excess mats and implants, but it's mostly a vanity project. My main has a hangar full of ships and I have SRP for everything I can fly so I'm not trying to stack mad money on my alt
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>>141167050
You're never going to stack mad money with PI anyways. It will cover your monthly plex if you have 3 characters doing it. I suppose you could combine it with a SP farm to make good isk.
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I played EVE a long time ago, and now i want to come back

there's a EVE sale on steam right now, the "Core starter pack" is -75%


The Core Starter Pack includes:

The ORE Venture mining frigate
A full set of modules and equipment to kit out your ship
Over two dozen primary skills, ready to train
Blueprints to build the Venture and the deadly Corax destroyer
A Mobile Depot personal deployable
Avatar apparel: male “Esquire” and female “Executor” coats (black)
Prototype Cerebral Accelerator (skill booster)
30 days of game time


is it worth? looks like i wont be able to be recruited and wont get the free 14 day trial

What do you guys think?
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>steam

all those items they give you are worth nothing except the cerebral accelerator btw
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>>141168353
That cerebral accelerator and the game time is good. The other stuff is worth maybe 10 mil isk total (completely worthless basically)

How much is the core starter pack? If it's around 15$ you're probably better off starting a 21 day trial and subbing.
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>>141136571

yes
https://zkillboard.com/character/96373109/
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>>141168353
its a lot cheaper than actually subbing but the items are all worthless except the cerebral accelerator
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>>141168816
how do the rats not attack him
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>>141168884
wait until site has like 3 rats left or just go for it if theyre kiting rats
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>>141168783
>>141168850

The starter pack is 3 $ converted in my country currency isnt it worth?
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>>141169063
Yeah that's very good value for 3$.
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>>141169010
I guess

I want the good old days back where the rats would keep attacking the carebear

>mfw space killing tengus in a thrasher
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>>141169063
Yeah definitely
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>>141169158
>>141169397

And the premium pack costs 16$

The Premium Edition includes:


Core Starter Pack (including 30 days of game time)
All four Content Packs (excluding Aurum): Explorer, Colonist, Industrialist, Skirmisher
Abaddon Tash-Murkon Battleship skin
Hyperion Innerzone Shipping Battleship skin
Maelstrom Nefantar Battleship skin
Rokh Wiyrkomi Edition Battleship skin
1 PLEX (30 additional days of game time)
750 AURUM for New Eden Store
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>>141169523
That's actually also very good value. Buying a plex on its own would cost you 20$ if there's no sale going on.

In terms of ingame money, the plex is about 1 billion isk right now. The battleship skins all together are worth ~100 mil. The aurum is worth ~250mil. The other stuff is worthless.

Definitely take that one if you can afford it.
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so does getting eve on steam still fuck your shit up, or is it fine
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>>141170021

Can't we make a scheme to profit reselling accounts to americans using Third world VPN and buying accounts at extremely cheap?
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>>141170386
CCP monitors IP's.

If they see an account's IP suddenly and permanently changing to a different country that's going to get flagged and investigated.
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>>141170564

how much costs a PLEX at this moment? cheaper than 16$
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>>141170192
it still has some bad parts that I cant remember but its better now. you can also transfer your account over
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>>141170661
For europoors it's currently €19.95 for a PLEX, but you get discounts if you buy them in bulk (still not as good a deal as that 16$ starter pack.
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>>141170875
>€19.95
What the fuck?
€ != $ yet they're selling them for the same dollar amount regardless of the actual value of the currency?
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>>141170875

So, lets make our scheme and become filthy rich in real life, and we don't even need a VPN cause i am BR
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>>141171025
Welcome to being a eurofag.

Shit sucks, enjoy your stay.
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>>140991172
when the fuck are we getting t3 frigates
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>>141170661
Just buy it. The only way you could lose out if you buy that pack is if you don't want to play EVE anymore before you can use that PLEX for more game time or money.
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>>141171193
Remember, T3 means it needs a stupid gimmick. What gimmick do you suppose they should have?
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>>141171193

>caring about t3 frigates
>not wanting t3 Capitals

I want my black ops carrier already.
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>>141171193
What would they even do?

Innate cloak?

Mines?
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>>141171370
25km jump drives
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>>141171429
>Mines?
oh no, not again
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>>141171370
I don't think the T3 cruiser's customization was a stupid gimmick

Maybe the LOL YOU LOSE SP IF YOU DIE thing was.

>>141171496
Hmm?
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>>141171370
lets fix afs first
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>>141171616

>le dont punish me for making stupid mistakes

And then the game turns into a casualized mess with little to no penalty to dying.
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>>141171859
You don't think losing a ship worth a bil+ is punishment enough?

And it's just for the T3 cruisers and literally nothing else so it's kinda gimmicky. I'm not sure making the cruisers more like every other ship in the game would make the game "casualized"

I guess it gives people who've run out of combat skills to train something to train. Takes a long-ass time to get there, though,
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why can't i log into my account

there's a free weekend going on
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>>141172309
Despite the SP loss, people still use T3s everywhere so the penalty isn't really hurting them and is fine as it is.
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>anything about T3s
>fine
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>>141173146
Wasn't really saying they should get rid of it, just stating that it was kinda gimmicky

Let's get back to wondering what the fuck T3 Frigates would do
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>>141173146
Because they're literally the best subcapital ships, even after all the nerfs.

> this is somehow fine
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>>141173362
none of those nerfs have been real
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>>141173362

>Still no T3 genocide
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>>141150692
Cause it isn't theirs, it is Oruze's
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>>141174161
>still no genocide of every single person who has ever made a reddit or tumblr.

There is no god.
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What's the T3s' weakness?
Hard mode: No SP loss and ISK cost.


Jokes aside, I think T3C's weakness is supposed to be that when it's fitted one way, then it excels at that job, but is mediocre at all others.
And T3D's weakness is supposed to be if it switches to one mode it excels at that job, but is mediocre at all others.
Contrary to T2s which supposedly excel (supposedly even more than T3, CCP pls) at one job, and suck at all others.

Unfortunately, the balance is out of whack and they are powerful almost no matter what they do.
Subsystems/modes being nothing but an extra on top of an already powerful hull instead of it paying off for it being a commitment.

>inb4 T2 is specialization T3 is generalization
First off - this kind of worked years ago. It doesn't work after tiericide. Talking about T3Cs here.
Those ships just don't fit in into the meta anymore. They'll either be to be too powerful or not worth the training/SP loss risk.
It's a crappy place for any ship to be in.

It's weird and I don't like it, but it's not absurdly powerful, so it's ok to leave it the way it is for now imo.

As for T3Ds... they kinda fit into the meta because they assplode quickly, so they are ok too (barely, as far as balance is concerned).
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>>141171379
Where is my t2 Assault Battleship?
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>>141176096

Hey thats right.

We need CCP to make battleships great again. Some new designs I dont know.

Fuck that faction shit.
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Look it to my eyes bitch. I'm fucking crazy, I just don't care, LOOK AT ME JESUS!
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>>141176901

Talking about 13 day queues.

Did I fucked up if I train drone interfacing and heavy drones to lvl 5?
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>>141176992
t2 drones is good imo
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>>141176992
Drones skills are useful on almost any ship.

You did good son.
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>>141176992
Drone Interfacing V is good.

Heavy drones V is less useful because you'll probably just be using Geckos for serious stuff. But it makes you Gecko's even better I guess. Drone interfacing is like, really good though.
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Is there any situation where t2 salvages and like, pro noctis skills is even worth it?

>tfw no cosmic sigs that are just NPC wreck sites where you scan them down in a new "Covert Noctis" and salvage the super cool wrecks.
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>>141171429
T3 Frigs?

My idea
>>141031818

Basically:
>weaker attributes than normal frig on hull alone
>more pg/cpu and slots to make up for smaller attributes (this gives increased fitting versatility), so that a fully fitted is more or less the same stats are normal frig but you have tons more choices
>one slot for your gimmick-of-choice - some ideas in that former post (also cloakers are bad, that's why no covops cloak gimmick, only penalty reduction from normal cloaks)
That's the base. And then maybe this:
>maybe add a 10% extra survivability on top because muh isk/muh shiny ship

Some other "gimmick-of-choice" ideas:
- % webification resistance (it's a thing since Citadel)
- % ewar resistance
- can fit micro target spectrum breakers
- <insert your own gimmick here>


In short:
1. Lots of fitting slots, lots of fitting options, lots of modules. End result (fully fitted) is something close to normal frigates (pick t1 or t2 as your baseline, it doesn't matter that much).
2. Has a gimmick, but you get to choose what kind of gimmick you want. MJD? Cloaking? Target spectrum breaker? Tackle resilience? Something else? Got you covered.
And the gimmick has to be gimmicky. No stupid bullshit that boost base stats (tank, dps, scan res, w/e) - that leads to balance nightmares.
Something gimmicky like +5% to efficiency of remote sensor boosters is fine tho.
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>>141177493
Roleplaying as a salvager I suppose. That's literally it.

Salvage shouldn't drop from exploration sites. It killed the entire salvaging profession.
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>>141177809
>Salvage shouldn't drop from exploration sites. It killed the entire salvaging profession.
When I first heard T2 salvage mats drop from exploration sites I didn't just cry inside.
I cried out loud.
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I'm not going to take the time to see if your idea is shitty or not, but anything other than fixing up the already existing ships is bad. so many useless classes
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>>141177703

Make it's gimmick some sort of IFF jammer that makes you appear as blue on everyone's overview for 60 seconds at the cost of all your cap.
>>
any good corps in provi?
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Ive scanned over the steam version of this game which is currently on sale.

Ive been keeping an eye on this game for it to go on sale and now that it has ive got a simple question: Do you have to subscribe if you buy the intro pack standalone.

From the statements id say no, but some companies can be sneaky like this they say you get a free month, but you have to subscribe for at least another month after the initial 30 day period which effectively is just 1 month at 50% off.
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is 38.5k ehp enough to survive a suicide ganker for long enough for the coppers to get there in 0.8?
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>>141179086
I was thinking you can buy your gimmick as a module on market and just fit it to your ship, with 20-30 different gimmicks available.
A module called "Standings Spoofing Matrix I" that does exactly what you say? Works for me.
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>>141179305

Could work, T2 haulers and T3 frigates get a cpu usage bonus to make them the only ones able to fit the module. Write a bit of fluff on the module description that it was made by smugglers.
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>>141179209

Well it is a monthly fee game, if you somehow make a billion isk or so in your first month you could buy gametime with that but good luck.
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>>141179258
http://blog.beyondreality.se/TTK-CONCORD

if this is still accurate, i should be able to tank a single 700dps catalyst barely taking hull damage. two will kill me every time though
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>>141179932
no wait, i can't math. it looks like i can even survive two. time to afk
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>>141179803
A newbie explorer could totally do that, given enough time spent exploring. You don't eve need a cloak to explore wormholes (if you're properly paranoid)
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>t3 frigs

plenty of them around m8s, they're called linkfags
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>>141180106

brand new you still need about 10 days to be able to properly explore wormholes, you'd have to get outrageously lucky or put in a severe amount of hours to plex in the remaining 20 days

begging in jita would probably be easier
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>in one of the fastest ships in the game
>mfw I'm being camped in by 1 carrier and some anchored bubbles and have been forced to log off

this expansion is fucking retarded
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>>141180381
I assume you mean fastest non-interceptor.
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>>141180381
why didn't you bring your 12 maller alts m8?
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>>141180537
they'd get instapopped by fighters

>>141180531
I'm not having a 'whose frigate is the fastest' autism competition, not that interceptors are the fastest. it's a fast frigate
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But this is important, whose frigate is actually the fastest?
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>>141181246
If it's not an interceptor then it's probably the dramiel
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>>141180930
Interceptors are relevant here as they are immune to bubbles, and I'm assuming we aren't talking about a smart bombing carrier.
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>>141181246
I think the Claw is the fastest at 480
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>Goons upset because they have to deploy capitals with an escort to defeat other capitals with escorts

Just when you think Asher and Kcolor can't be any more pathetic.
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>>141184172
it's fucking hilarious isn't it?

for weeks now PL has been aware how turbotanky FAX machines are while doing PL vs NC mock cap battles

if goons bothered to fucking play the game beyond just relying on numbers they'd have been able to prepare, but now they're getting turbomad that a couple hundred bombers can't take down a cap
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>>141168816

Did CCP unblunt stunt?
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>>141179803
i know its a monthly fee game, but what im asking is:
Could i buy this game for £3.74 on steam, and play it for 1 month without any further fees.
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>>141186357
Yes, provided you can manage to make 1 bil ingame currency a month. Which is achievable, but can be tedious.

I cannot say whether it's a good idea to buy it off Steam however.
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>>141186141
the stratios samurai is indeed back
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There are people out there who play this game for more than a year and still don't even have 50 confirmed solo kills.

What else confuses you about the playerbase of this game?
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>>141186838
it is though
you can use your steam bought account to login as non-steam as well
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>>141186838
what if i dont plan on playing it after the first month?
what if i find i dont really like it?
then ive only spent 3.75, and theres no sneaky 'you must have a subscription plan' bullshit?
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>>141186838
He's asking about his first month, not the ones that come after...

>>141186357
Yes, unless Gaben is a faggot and added some restriction of his own.
CCP's way of things - one month of game time is one month of game time. No additional fees.

Assuming of course, your account will not be considered trial account...
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>>141187112
yes they will come knock at your door when you sleep
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>>141187112
>and theres no sneaky 'you must have a subscription plan' bullshit?

No such thing.

Tell you what, just get a free trial instead of buying the game through steam.
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>>141187112
>theres no sneaky 'you must have a subscription plan' bullshit?
Just make sure to cancel your subscription. It's opt out right now.
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>>141184172

Boat was being a pretty massive retard. He had 100 bombers with no neuts and kept getting the FAXes into low armor/shield with his bomber blob but ran because of 'muh no kill feeding' strategy.
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>>141187506
>'muh no kill feeding' strategy

i love this, they have no issues feeding kills constantly during peace but the time comes for real nigga shit, they pussy out and act like deaths are sacred
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>>141187023
Talk to me.
I have zero confirmed solo pvp kills.

What's so confusing about it?
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>>141187023
"""""solo""""" pvp is boring though.
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>>141187675
Don't you thing it is a damn shame to play a multiplayer pvp game and not to enjoy ego stroking?
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>>140918709
I am literally going to try and set this up when the industrial platform arrives. Stock the market with ventures, skillbooks and modules.

Maybe I'll even buy a mining foreman toon to give out boosts
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>>141188538
Oh, but I do! It is a shame.
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>>140911959
>tfw you Run EVE on a gt210
keks dee
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>>141189265
The integrated graphics processor on the motherboard is probably better
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>>141189673
Kek
>>
Any good corps that accept low SP plebs in null or wormhole space and aren't just farmed by everyone else?
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>>141191132
Join All-Out
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>>141191132
Do not join all-out

Literally anyone else.
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>>141191270
>>141191439

both of these
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>>141191132
join tengoo
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>goons whining about caps being strong harder than BNI directly post PL catch

ahhooo hohueuhe
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>>141191270
>>141191439
>>141191746

No serious suggestions?
>>
>toon
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>>141192950
Join All-Out
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>>141192950
Install Gentoo
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>>141193267
I would rather play with reddit than 4chan.
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>>141192950
Most serious wh corps have quite a few requirements.

You can't really blame them because new characters can easily be enemy spies and having an enemy spy in your hole can be... interesting. Low SP characters are also not really able to contribute much to anything in wormhole life.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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