/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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The Tsar.

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Nicky

Reminder to encourage bureaucrats and build liquor factories.

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Imperial Communism.

>>140880936
based post

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pls buy stellaris

>>140880968
>don't get the wrong idea
Fucking weeb scum needs to be exterminated now.

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The Royal Family

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PLEASE

what are you listening to lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3483RPUvGrc

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buy our games

>>140881231
EXCUSE

>>140881278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm0IZKjDq3I

Stellaris soon buddies

>>140881278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccztRby3FAk

>>140881373
jake's mannerisms are so annoying

i miss matt

>>140881278
https://youtu.be/Cup60p9pii8

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Pictish Empire here.

It is a dark time for the Scottish. The past fifty years has been me fighting off Lollard Uprisings in my own fucking country. They just started their thirteenth uprising. But that's not the worst of it.

I lost Cornwall and Kent.

I'll get them back with ease, neither of them have a lot of men.

Then I'm turning my attention to Mercia, which has become a Lollard stronghold(the rulers are Lollard, the populace is Lollard, everyone is Lollard).

At least Byzantium looks like it's doing alright.

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>>140881441
There's this

>>140881865
>not reporting and ignoring
lad..

>>140881683
>Bohemia snaking it's way into Nordic lands

eeeeech.

>>140880968

Sounds more like Prussian socialism than communism.

>>140881278
https://youtu.be/-qAgeoH-RFU

>>140881278
Rest in peace Basil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeZL2R9jDJM

>>140881278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pRLyyFdDjg&list=PL4BF10825E1C27BD5&index=1

>>140881589
Jake is autistic

>>140881278
https://youtu.be/QA8sZgx7ZK8

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>>140880819
Can we save him and his family?

>>140882469

RIP

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>>140882498
Stellaris will save him lad

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I haven't played a gsg or broswed gsg in about 5 or 6 months

what have i missed

any dank memes?
any good dlc?
fill me in lads

>>140882659
No way. The customizability will cause him to really pour his heart and soul into the game. When his son makes fun of them he will freak.

>>140882757
you missed out on the epic liquor war

>>140882757
you missed shitposting from discord groups 2 shitty dlc and that is pretty much it also pls buy stellaris

>>140882757
Arumba taking anti-depressants and losing it on twitter

>>140882934
It was hard fought but eventually everybody stopped caring and the problem solved itself.

Are tank factories actually profitable or are they a meme?
It seems like the things required to create a tank are very expensive.

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>>140883145
>>140882934
give me the detales lads

i feel like i missed out

2 dlc's?
for what?
are they worth it?

what's the latest with that USA crusader kings mod?

>>140883172
lol wut

>>140882757
OOOOHHHHHOOOO MY GOODNESS LADIES
ALWAYS SOMETHIN FUN HAPPENING HERE

>>140883457
Arumba went full Ted Bundy on twitter. The posts are still up check it out but be warned, appearances can be deceiving...

ok i would appreciate if someone would help me with the white map glitch in victoria 2, i have tried clearing my cache many times and have tried re-downloading it many times but the map is tilll white. plz help im loosing it

>>140883457
mare nostrum for eu4 and conclave for crusader kings 2 shit dlcs also if you want to play ck2 just torrent the 2.4 version of the game after that it went to shit

>arumba's uploads are still broke
he's gonna be fine right

>>140883629
>>140883484
well shit i really missed something

>>140883721
You just colonize it. It's a feature actually.

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Whats my best options in defending Austria from the Nazi cucks?

I've got a mostly infantry army,
5x Corp 2x inf/2x h-towed
1x Corp 4x Gebirgsjager
1x Corp Light armor/Cav/Mot/Mot Sup

Building Heavy Fighters at the moment to stop the Luftwaffe from pounding my tender anus in the mountains.

>>140883457
There was Conclave for ck2, which was so shitty a lot of the features are going to be optional in the next patch

>>140883457
You lost 2 BR raids

>You have to wait a while before reporting another post.

>>140884318
t. cancer killing gsg

>>140883457
>classic /gsg/
Leave now, lad. This place has become so much shitter in that time.

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>>140884469
pls buy Stellaris

>playing russia
>finish war with crimea
>just pay off my last loan
>Protestant league war
>at war with Lithuania, Poland, Hungary and Austria

Send help

>CK: the double
>gave vassalage to wrong son
>Heir is pissy because has no lands
>Tries to kill second son
>Sons hate each other now
>King is on his death bed

I messed up

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>>140883881
what the fuck did they add?

>>140883601
>>140883172
poor arumba
that really looks hard to deal with

>>140884469
>mfw i remember when i started playing/browsing gsg
>mfw i remember it was just as shit then as it is now
This wickedness must be stamped out

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hi yes helo this is meme how do i join the steam group

>>140884660
>let wickedness spamming
Atleast we were spamming good memes back then, lad. Now it's utter utter terror.

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>when your liquor factories go out of business

>>140884698
>what is literal civil war

>>140884781
There's always leddit

>>140884698
>que son los fueros

>>140884660
Mainly a council system, different laws (gender equality, no more crown authority etc.), and shattered retreat.

The latter two, along with a few other things, will be optional next patch.

IMPORTANT POLL
http://www.strawpoll.me/2402911

PLEASE RESPOND

I CAN'T DECIDE FOR MYSELF SO /GSG/ WILL DECIDE FOR ME

>>140885356
kys

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>>140884660
Seen as no one else is filling you in, I will.

So /gsg/ was being it's normal self, telling EU4 posters to uninstall.exe, upboating Vicky content, etcetera. But one kid got so upset at being told to uninstall he made a new group, discord, it's sort of like the steamgroup but it doesn't even have their infamy. So they decided the way they were going to make a name for themselves was pissing off the majority who like Vicky by calling it a liquor simulator (a play on liquor distilleries being the most consistentily profitable factories in the game). At first they received a lot of support from people who didn't know what discord were doing like EU4 players and people who did think Vicky's economy was too linear. But then they squandered their support by just shitting on the game entirely, saying only liquor is profitable, that people should stop playing it and that HPM is a faggot.

So now every few hours around a dozen posts will come through saying liquor this, liquor that, etcetera, but the thread just reports and ignores them now and they leave/are banned about 10 minutes after they start.

That's another meme. Somebody cross posted the image on HPM's pastebin and found it was also posted on Instagram or some shit, so now the discord faggots call HPM "Alex Grandi mod" because the name of the guy they claim is him, with no proof, is Alex Grandi.

It's all very autistic, but this is /gsg/.

>>140881683
What map mod? Looks really good like out of a textbook or something

How do i attract migrants apart from having good policies?

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>>140886368
Hello Discord lad!

Literally prove me wrong.

>>140886285
Theatrum Orbis Terrum.

It's one of the highest rated map mods on steam.

And yes, it is totally gorgeous.

Also, my gameplan for the next two centuries is:
>conquer the british isles
>Then conquer the Nordic lands
>then attempt to take on Umayyad on mainland europe

Any flaws in this plan, b0ss?

>>140886527
t. kojak

>>140886580
t. T

>>140886551
Once you finish with the Nordic countries ally with the Greeks if they are still around. Better to end the schism and fight the saracen together

>>140886580
who is Kojack?

>>140886703
I'm rather surprised they've held out. I'm glad for them. My aim is to take back Cornwall and Kent, then invade Mercia and slaughter the Lollards in their borders by the time 1000 AD comes 'round.

>>140886204
>autistically analyzing spontaneous memeage this much
wew lad

>>140886876
Another look at your screenshot makes me have to ask why you haven't taken all of Ireland yet?

>>140886695
t. T for Teen

>>140886957
>not being a meme specialist

>>140886973
I was saving them for later. I was more concerned with establishing England.

I'll get 'em after I do that, me-thinks. Not like they can get powerful. They're Irish, after all.

How do you get core spread events to happen in HPM? I know you need N&I, but there's some ruling party policy and cultural policy you need as well, right?

>>140886317
buy pls

>>140887171
t. Anglopro

>>140886957
>spontaneous

>>140887259
I choose to take that as a compliment. Partially because I don't know what it's supposed to mean.

Also, Scotland forever.

>>140887380
well considering pounds are actually generated by the gold...

>>140887472
t. ron "just gold standard my shit up familia" paul

>>140886204
Hoestly I dont give a shit wen someone tells me uninstall.exe.

Its when they dog my every post with shit like EU4 babby that it gets annoying. About as annoying as the liquor meme seems to me for V2 people. Why cant I just make my rounds through the games, each has its own appeal, and for as retarded as some parts of ck2 and eu4 are, I still enjoy playing them.

>>140887598
i'm not being a memer though

it's how new pounds are brought into the economy by converting precious metals.

>>140886204

> a fucking porcupine

>>140887598
I know you're meming and I shouldn't even be entertaining you because you're meming and that I'm literally autistic for doing so BUT:

He's being literal. In Vicky 2, the economy is totally closed. Only precious metal provinces and events actually create money, all other money present in the game is there from the start.

>>140887848
Took me a while/10

>>140887860
How does that explain the huge amounts of money people get in the late game, sometimes going over 100 million. Gold RGOs don't produce anywhere near that level of money, and that's a normal treasury for a great power.

I don't see what the problem would be with factories and RGOs creating money out of thin air, since there's no inflation in vic 2.

>>140887640
Jesus fuck, take your persecution complex back to /r/paradoxplaza. If you get shat on for posting grand strategy in /gsg/ then post it more and more and more and more. Don't be a whiny faggot complaining about being "oppressed" because you sound like an /r/paradoxplaza pro.

>>140888049
i'm gonna go ahead and say what >>140887860 said and instead call you fucking retarded

>>140888273
Simply epic rebuttal, me lad.

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>>140888049
>I don't see what the problem would be with factories and RGOs creating money out of thin air, since there's no inflation in vic 2.

That's the problem: there's no inflation modeled, which is a major flaw of Vicky's economy. The economies would become as much a joke as PDM, because all industrialized nations would be rolling in so much dough it's not even funny.

As it is now, GPs in the lategame only have the cash they do because they produce so much of the goods the rest of the world requires, so the money goes from balanced (game start) to being primarily in the hands of the GPs in the lategame, since most other nations are buying from them. If GPs also produced money via their industry on top of their precious metals provinces, it'd be fucking insane.

>>140888270
>telling me to do what Im already doing
>complains at me for doing the same thing V2 people have been doing for days
>doesnt complain at them

>>140888314
thanks, i liked the part where i called you fucking retarded tbqh

>>140888438
Have the devs actually ever stated where the money comes from?

>>140888576
From Johan's ass desu

>>140888576
Don't know. It's just commonly accepted knowledge for those of us who are autistic that precious metals RGOs, decisions, and events are the only three ways to create money.

Which, admittedly, could be wrong. Some long-established stuff has been proven wrong before. But I think this one is actually correct.

>>140888464
So you want to be able to post eu4 AND have anyone who thinks it's a babby game muted?
Top fucking kek, me lad. Why are only you entitled to an opinion on the game? If someone wants to call it shit why shouldn't they be able to?

>>140888784
you forgot `money

>>140888784
>tfw the lad who designed vicky 2's economy resigned and is nowhere to be found

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>>140888930
i wonder why...

>>140888270
Babby appeal is appeal is but still is babby.

>>140889014
Perhaps it's a good thing because the whole thing is a convoluted mess to be desu.

>>140889062
wrong anon sorry. It is for you >>140887640

>>140888850
When did I say I wanted them muted faggot? Are you projecting?

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>>140887191
pls help lads

>>140880819
so I randomly got Briefne of Tutorial Island in CK2, and so far I'm doing well. My 7/9/12/8/8 ruler has graduated up a category and how has 21 Stewardship, and I've absorbed Dublin and Cil Dara and built myself a Duchy. I wanna go build a republic, should I wait to resolve my Tribe until I've taken Bruges or Venice, or should I settle for annexing Middlesex?

>>140889343
Okay, so you want to post EU4 and have nobody voice their opinion on EU4 at all?
Jesus, take your censorship back to /r/paradoxplaza.

>>140889769
t. liquor baron

Lads, i cant run MHD/AHS on Vic2 3.04, it crashes when i click play. help pls

How do i attract syrians to my latin american country? good policies for migration? factories? what do

>automatically enter religious league war

Why I just want to dissuade everyone from fighting not actually fight.

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Right lads, time to start my most historically accurate campaign

>>140890365
>dindu the enlightened

>>140889769
You literally just repeated what I said you got wrong. All I did was say it annoyed me.

>>140890365
I like the custom nation maker for its scenarios.

>do a scenario with numerous African Empires to let them stand a chance against European colonial aggression
>they all go to war with each other then let themselves become vassals of the Europeans anyways

kek'd

>>140890365
WE

>>140890365
>Extended timeline
do you have a download for 1.14? bls :-DDD

>>140890029
>How do i attract syrians to my latin american country? good policies for migration? factories? what do
And being a republic. What please me respondam caralho

>>140890365
>no madagascar and northern africa
>no enlightened colonies in south america, india and china

oppressed/10

>>140890893
uh I just copied the zip/mod file and packed it up for you, dunno if it'll work I'm not very knowledgeable with it

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7yr3w6j8iy9lh4x/ExtendedTimeline.7z?dl=0

>>140891298
based anon

>>140890365
This'd be fun to play as a lark. Could you upload a copy somewhere?

Reminder that even if Stellaris is good by some miracle, it'll still be full of DLC

>>140882498
>>140882659
Has he sperged out any more since the soccer incident?

>>140891440
I was using the Extended Timeline mod, and I have the DLC that lets you make custom nations, so sharing the save file might be a bit messy. It would be easier just creating your own setup.

>>140889370
make sure you have restricted rights set

residency helps i believe.

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>>140891742
Wonderful, thanks lad. Have another qt.

Why can't you limit your immigration to certain countries in Victoria 2?

>>140892079
because all immigrants assimilate equally

>>140892134

Victoria 2 is a terrible simulator.

How do I force poles to move to Siberia? If I use the encourage emigration NF, they just leave the country

>>140892023
>those feet
fucking wew

>>140892262
>If I use the encourage emigration NF, they just leave the country
hello what is problsm

>>140892416
i don't want happy poles in amerika, i want starving poles slaving away in my siberian liquor work camps

>>140892582
Oh no, lad. Please don't think the liquor spam is a meme. It's a discord shitposting attempt. Do NOT emulate it.

>>140892739
t. antimemer

>>140892739
ah yes I'll go build some steel mills then

>>140892909
No, they're not profitable.

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>>140892023
>Women fighting in the Roman army

Blasphemous

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>try to emulate Carnegie
>build steel empire
>it flops in 2 days
>unemployed workers get pissed
>gommunist rebellion
>new goverment's 5 year plan is literally only 1 word
>liquor

Good morning lads. What are your plans on gsg today?

>>140890942
>>140890365
>no Greece
>no Italy
>no British Isles
>no Japan

unwoke/10

Question, lads, if I have a profitable factory, built by the state, but zero capitalists who gets the profits the factory makes?

Will report meme answers.

>>140893416
The money that would've gone to the capitalists goes the the craftsmen and clerks instead, so you can have really rich workers.

>>140893207
>not knowing what iron RGOs are
>not knowing what output techs are
You'll learn the game eventually, son! Attaboy!

>>140893239
>morning

>>140893485
Wew. This is a new meme I have yet to explore.

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>>140893617
>build steel factory in iron and coal RGO state with max output techs
>it's even more unprofitable due to the overproduction

>>140893239
Its midnight you Eurocuck

>>140893837
>overproduction
>of steel
Now I KNOW you're meming, lad.

>>140893923
wew

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>>140894003
After...

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>>140894003
...and after.

>>140894071
Pls delete so the Arumba meme is complete and I will concede EU4 is the greatest game of all time and Vicky is trash.

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I've tried my best to make Spain great again lads.

>Got to the Remove Fuero event, no longer have to deal with 9999999999999999 Christinos only gobbunism.
>When the Peruvians killed my Spanish official I puppeted the entirety of South America barring Brazil to gain vice royalties over half of my former colonies and industrialized the continent, while still working on Mexico and Central America.
>Brought literacy up to nearly 70%, Spanish liquor lads working their asses off with some good glass/steel/artillery markets.
>Maintained the Phillipines.
>Supported my Portubro and built up their infrastructure.
>Made sure the United States fell apart so I have influence over the Caribbean unopposed.
>Be bros with France against the German/British/Italy superpowers.
>Maintained Carlist Absolute Monarchy for almost 100 years now.
>Unfortunately had to let the slaves be free in order to gain rightful Morocco clay.
>Spain has the best healthcare/educational policies in the world.
>Ensured Ottomans got cucked out of Europe.
>Going to make sure I get back Florida from the CSA before game ends.

Anything else I should do, lads?

>>140894252
Show your factories me laddie.

So who here has planned out their Stellaris playthrough already?

I want to make an anthropoid race called the Q'ix Thraa and have their empire be a divine mandate called the Weavers of Truth. Traits will be venerable and nomadic, but decadent and weak. They believe in a prophecy that they are the chosen ones who were born from the void and that they have no true homeworld. I'm going to try and corner the market on Zro as quickly as possible and play them kind of like the Navigator Guild from Dune, this shadowy faction that secretly manipulates through diplomacy instead of direct military confrontation, using bribes and sabotage and spies.

What about you guys? Anyone else playing a themed race?

What's the deal with Arumba?

>>140894252
Take atleast one Portuguese state as Lebensraum. Preferably the northernmost (whitest) or alternatively the most aesthetic.

Also, does Carlists Spain get the glorious revolution event Cuckold Spain does?

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>>140894326

Memes aside, it's pretty silly how lucrative liquor is. I wanted a more varied market but Spain's RGOs are pretty shitty.

Is it worth reinstalling EU4 right now or are they coming out with another big meme patch/dlc in a few weeks making it wholly pointless to start a new campaign?

t. last played horse lords i mean cossacks

>>140894492
>>>/vg/civ4x

>>140894559
He is a man on the brink of destruction who is in need of our support.

>>140894594
>1895
>steel factory in an iron RGO state
>subsidies are barely keeping it afloat, the majority of its goods are thrown into the void and workers and capitalists get almost no paychecks from it
Explain this, MS paint autist.

>>140894681
>nothing found

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imagine how cool vic2 would be if it was for google earth

>>140894681
What?

>>140894608
They're always coming out with a new meme patch/DLC.

Next one is in about a week, 1.17, but you could probably fit a game in before that.


>>140894594
>profitable military goods factories
What the fuck is going on?

>>140894825
probably some war going on

>>140894775
Stellaris is 4x, and as such, is not welcome here.
We kicked Aurora out for the same reason. Autism is not a meaningful argument.

>>140894825
>, but you could probably fit a game in before that.
...It took me months to play the Teutonic Order to the 1580s and that is the farthest I've ever gotten so I think I will wait.

>>140894935
It's a grand strategy game made by Paradox.

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>>140894742
>>140894825

The steel mill is for the bonus towards artillery production. I'm not really upgrading it unless it's absolutely necessary.

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Important poll here laddos

>>140894729

Source?

>>140894594
Build some fabric and clothing factories lad.

>>140894935
Then why do you have Distant Worlds in the OP image?

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>>140894935
It self identifies as Grand Strategy therefore it is Grand Strategy.

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>>140894252

I really wish I could form the FRCA or whatever that central american nation is as a European power.

>>140895026
No. It's a 4x made by paradox. "eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, and eXterminate" I swear to God the day Stellaris comes out I'm making a 4x general to divert your faggotry to.

>>140894963
Wew, why does it take you so long?

>>140895139
>no matter how big or small a steel mill gives a +15 throughput bonus
Ebin.
What is throughput anyway? I know input is how many goods required in and output is how many goods come out but throughput?

>>140894681
let them squat, 4xg 30 posts in

>>140895356
Throughput is essentially the scale of production of the factory. The higher the throughput, the more inputs are consumed and outputs are produced.

>>140895202
Well, the thing about that is... FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING SPACE MEMER REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>140895223
>Brazilian-Portuguese
No wonder these faggots like it.

>>140895356
It is a grand strategy game with the features of a 4X. That does not make it a turn-based civilization game. It is a grand strategy game just like Distant Worlds.

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>>140895356
>Wew, why does it take you so long?
Because a) it was my first game and b) I wanted to min/max my epic blobbing so half my time was spent looking at the wiki

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>>140895345

welp, time to set up some concentration camps.

>>140895473
4xg dies 30 posts in*

I tried many times ;_;

>>140895509
So it's a mixture of input and output?

>>140895543
It's a 4x game with the features of a 4x game.

>>140895223
see >>140895356

>>140895356
Is there any meaningful distinction between the two? Vic 2 and hoi3 are all of those except explore.

>>140895669
see >>140895223

>>140895603
>historically Catalans and Basques are the beloved vanguard's of carlism
>lel nope
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS FUCKING RAILROADED BULLSHIT I'LL BE TALKING TO HPM ABOUT THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6VSWCs7d1w

>>140895660
No, it's a grand strategy game with the features of a 4X.

Civilization 4 is not Distant Worlds.

>>140895741
see >>140895223

>>140895345
Once great wars are enabled get the islands. Spanish Guyana would be nice, do you a chinese port?, if not, get one.

>>140895803
>>>>140895741 (You)see >>140895223 (You)
glad you finally agree desu

I identify as a liquor factory
fuck off bigots

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Is Arumba about to have a mental breakdown?

>>140895692
Grand strategy games are entirely or almost entirely based in history, the only "exploring" in them is historical exploring. 4x are entirely or almost entirely ahistorical.

Examples of GS:
Victoria 2
HoI3
CK2

Examples of 4x:
Civ
Aurora
All those text based games from the nineties

>>140895936
I agree that it is a grand strategy game.

>>140896024
I got confused tb h

>>140895941
I sexually Identify as a liquor factory. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of covering the German people's homeland with bureaucrats and liquor factories and keeping the French to the west of Franche-Comte. People say to me that a person being a liquor factory is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon turn my head into a liquor bottle and give me the voice of Wilhelm II, Kaiser des Deutsches. From now on I want you guys to call me “Grosslandiums Deutschlandiums” and respect my right to encourage bureaucrats and conquer Warri. If you can’t accept me you’re a redditor and need to check your EU4 pleb privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

>>140895945
I really hope so. All this build up better not be for nothing.

Stellaris starts out 4X and then turns into a grand strategy game. What thread you post in depends on what part of the game you are talking about.

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whats the difference

>>140896005
Then remove Distant Worlds from the OP image.

Distant Worlds and Stellaris are literally the same thing.

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>>140896184
more shekels

what non great power, non secondary power, has the most unique events? excluding Japan. I'm talking Victoria 2 here, by the way.

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>first grand strategy discussion on /gsg/ in weeks

>>140895945
>Official US Treasury Poster

serious question: can i play distant worlds if i'm a bit of a dummy and forget stuff between play sessions?

>>140896329
Distant Worlds if a 4X not a grand strategy game and therefore discussion of it is banned in this thread.

>>140896186
Nobody posts DW here, so it's not an issue.

>>140896184
varying degrees of grabbling

don't feed the grabbler, buy the cheapest one

how do i get the king and all the higher ranking vassals to fuck my wife in ck2??

>>140896402
t. report and ignore autist

>>140896420
It is an issue, because it makes your logic contradictory.

If Distant Worlds is a grand strategy game, then so is Stellaris.

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>ebon niggers in space fantasy 4x game
>grand strat
Nice try, Johan.

>>140896005
Maybe you should look up the definition of "Grand Strategy," because it has fundamentally little to do with history. GSG is about the simulation of managing a nation's economy and/or military at relatively "realistic" levels. Whether this means you control historically based countries or a futuristic space empire is irrelevant. Civ is not aiming for any true degree of realism, whereas Aurora/EU/CK/Vicky do.

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My starting system got a meme name. Good thing this studio is so small or George Lucas would probably sue it

>>140896534
Yeah, well, for the record DW doesn't belong in the OP but it's never posted here so I'm not going to shit my pants about it. Stellaris however, will be.

>>140896621
>ebon colonise the universe in 2 centuries meme game
>realistic
Yeah, fuck off. It's space civ.

>>140894252
Post new world.

>>140896716
If Distant Worlds is a grand strategy game, and this is the grand strategy general, then posting about Stellaris is allowed in this thread according to the board rules, whether you like it or not, and it will happen, again, whether you like it or not.

>>140896621
There is no "realistic way" to manage a space empire. Space empires aren't real.

>>140896281
Spain :^)

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>>140896604
Jesus, that silver back needs to be shot.

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somebody give me a country with zero potential in victoria 2.

>>140896907
Ryuku

>>140896848
>because x is z that means y is also z
Epic. By this logic civ is also a grand strategy. Fuck off Johan.

>>140896907
Hawaii

>>140896884
ow le edge

>>140897049
No, because Civilization is not featured in the OP image and defined as a grand strategy game by the OP.

The OP decides what the general is about. Since this general is about Distant Worlds, and Stellaris is literally the exact same game as Distant Worlds, then it follows that discussion of Stellaris is allowed.

Civilization is not the exact same game as Distant Worlds, and it is not the exact same game as Stellaris.

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>>140896960
h-here i go

>>140896862
> Space empires aren't real.
Where's the proof though?

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>>140897049

>>140897248
DELETE THIS POST REEEEEEEEEE

>>140897190
Please explain how DW erroneously being listed as a GS so there was an even number of games for the picture to be symmetrical somehow means your space fantasy 4x is GS.

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>>140897248
This is going to trigger some autists

>>140895356
But you do all those things in Victoria 2 anyway

>>140895945
>About to
>implying he's not already in the realm of madness.

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>>140896604
>tfw going to send all nigs to a Tundra world

>>140897248
This needs to be the OP next thread.

>>140897248
Looks like this debate has been settled then. 4X is officially a sub-genre of Grand Strategy.

>>140897352
Because the OP created this general, and whatever is featured in the OP as the content of the general is permitted for discussion.

Those are the rules of this board.

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>>140897221
>reactionary party

>>140897456
that pic looks comfy as fuck

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>>140897456
>tfw you, a nigger, are going to be sent to /4xg/

>>140897569
Papal States' reactionary party is also pacifist or anti-military iirc.

>>140897482
NO, THAT CAN'T BE

THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>140897482
>large sections of /gsg/ revolt

>>140897357
t. casual pro
>>140897560
I'll make sure it's removed next thread, laddo.

>>140897618
>/4xg/
No need since we already have /gsg/, if we were to subdivide generals /vic2/ should be made first.

>>140897738
Just reactionaries trying to roll back reforms to make /gsg/ a civilized general desu.

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>>140897248
AUTISTS ETERNALLY BTFO

Simpson posting is shit

Will this come to a civil war /gsg/?

>>140897935
probably tbqh

>>140897765
It would be a good idea to make it clear in the OP that discussion of 4X games is not allowed in /gsg/.

Just add one sentence to avoid any and all future confusion forever. Especially since Stellaris is about to release in a week. It will help to keep out all those posters that will inevitably post about that game in this thread once it does, because you can report their posts as off-topic, and they will subsequently be removed by the janitors.

>>140898049
>stellaris
>not grand strategy
wew

I think we're all forgetting there used to be a /4xciv/ but it was literally so shit it imploded. We'll just recreate it as a puppet for a week or so after stellaris is released so the pure grand strategy keeps it's hegemony here and then reabsorb it when the casuals have gone back to /r/paradoxplaza.

>>140898049
fuck off

>>140898049
You can only do this after we have come to a consensus, and you haven't done anything to prove that 4X is fundamentally not Grand Strategy in some manner.

>>140898049
This.

>>140898105
>black wymyn colonising space
>not 4x
Nice meme!

>>140898225
>>140897248

>>140898120
Do you want people to be allowed to post about Stellaris or not?

>>140898281
yes, I do, It's GS, somehow DW is allowed here yet autists are gonna try to pull another aurora

http://www.strawpoll.me/10116371
http://www.strawpoll.me/10116371
http://www.strawpoll.me/10116371

>>140898372
Civ and Total war is already banished from here though, they have their own general

>>140898372
rigged poll, nobody posts total war or civ here, you fucked up

>>140898372
>strawmeme
please kill yourself kudasai.

>>140898337
>ids anuddah aurora
This is why we need to recreate /4xg/ as a satellite, so that Aurora, civ and stellaris posters can live in peace, under our protection.

>>140898337
I don't see the problem with having 4X as it's own distinct general. If Stellaris is not allowed here, then when it comes out, people will just post about it in a 4X general instead of here.

Nobody will get mad and nobody will care. But if you do not do this, then people are going to be confused and act autistic and shitpost endlessly about it, as is evidenced from just this small 30 minute discussion.

This can be avoided and everyone can be happy. Why try to force controversy? Are you just bored or is it on principle?

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There's something about the aesthetics of HoI3 that I can't find any where else. It's very good looking for a game with maps and counters.

http://poal.me/2xf686

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>>140898582
Stellaris is mainly aimed primarily at the GSG audience though, this should be obvious if you look at any of the information Paradox has put out on the game.

>>140898582
I agree. They must go.

>>140898595
What mod?

>>140898458
>>140898470
it's a classic technique used to rig polls, you combine questions so that people are confused about what you're actually asking
see:
>‘Do you approve of the reunification of Austria with the German Reich that was enacted on 13 March 1938 and do you vote for the party of our leader, Adolf Hitler? Yes. No.’

Reminder to report and ignore Stellaris posting.

>>140898741
Okay, then it should be allowed, and everyone should stop saying it isn't and if they don't like it, deal with it.

Either way, it should be resolved intelligently by modifying the OP, not with shitposting and arguing in the thread.

Unless you want to shitpost and argue, of course.

>>140898741
No. It's primarily aimed at the post 2012 casual "buy our DLC lol" paradox. The same one shitting up HoI as we speak. No surrender.

>>140898856
t. autist

>>140898785
HPP with colored counters and my own mini-mod

>>140898458
>civ
>own general
not anymore

>>140898856
Go right ahead. The janitors and mods will ignore such reports because no violation of rules has taken place.

has anyone tried the Grand Strategy game Google Maps
it looks pretty cool

>>140898790
I honestly don't see what is ambiguous about that question. If you approve of the reunification and the NSDAP, vote yes, otherwise, no.

>>140898790
http://poal.me/i7g9wt
http://poal.me/i7g9wt
http://poal.me/i7g9wt

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does this trigger you?

>>140898992
nice meme

>>140899012
what if you only approve of one of them, anon?

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>>140899152
You vote no.

Reminder the steamgroup is the one pushing us to accept Civ, Stellaris and Risk. And under the liability of the OP is subject to immediate reports.

>We don't have an official steamgroup. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steamgroup, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
>Report and ignore it

Specifically;
>They are known for false-flagging.

>>140899015
Very important poll guys, please vote.

>>140899258
>implying they are not trying to separate the two so they can hold the mp monopoly for this general

>>140896836

It's a galaxy not the universe.

>>140898961
Thanks. What does your minimod do?

>>140899373
Nice post, steamgroup.

>>140899421
Why don't you just post t.rob, it's a lot simpler that way.

really important poll please vote
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>>140899421
Jokes on you, I'm not him and you're not me.

Stellaris is a grand strategy game, says I.

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I wonder who can be behind all these "pls accept Stellaris in this general" posts

>>140899575
Der ewige stemegruppe.

>>140899575
It was me.

>>140899671
t. rob

>>140899249
you're missing the point m8, the question is phrased so as to imply you can't have one without the other

Seriously, just change the OP and make it authoritative that this thread is not about 4x titles.

Whether Stellaris/DW or whatever else is a grand strategy game at that point won't matter because they are definitely 4X games as well, and thus to be excluded from this general if you make it so.

You have the power, as the OP, to do this, because it's your general and it can be about whatever you want (video game related)

>>140898908

Should HOI4 be allowed, then? Maybe we should have a /gsg/ and a /pdx/.

>>140899838
this

fucking this

>>140899795
>NSDAP reunified Austria with Germany
>As soon as NSDAP lost control Austria was separated and disallowed to rejoin with Germany once again
Seems accurate to be quite Frankish.

>>140899838
Honestly, paradox are making their games so casual the lines between GS and 4x are becoming blurrier by the day. See: random new world.

>>140900034

I know. I'm serious about my suggestion.

>>140899838
>>140899892
a /PDX/ general is really the only solution to this problem, that's all that's ever posted here anyways because anything not paradox is not considered a gsg anyways

>>140900001
t. chief election-rigger with the nsdap

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>Anti-Stellaris crowd can't win the debate so they resort to name calling, memes, and attempting to directly bargain with the OP
You've lost, Austistes. We have the high ground.

>>140899783
Nope.

Guys, let's not lose our heads here. Think carefully about this.

First you ban Stellaris, and then you start banning all the new Paradox games that actually are legitimate grand strategy games, because lel casual memes pls buy

This is a slippery slope and we must all tread carefully.

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Ryukyu will rise!

>>140900212
>implying the steamgroup haven't got numbers

>We don't have an official steamgroup. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steamgroup, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
>Report and ignore it

>>140899384
Adds EvW terrain, some EvW music, some bug fixes on events. Some other strat modifiers like quinine, fertile lands (idea shamelessly stolen from August Storm), adds a new wooded hills terrain, some other shit I can't remember.

Right now I'm trying to add more depth to the Spanish Civil War and add alt-history paths for it if the Republicans win. I'm reading The Battle for Spain by Antony Bevor right now to try to get an understanding of it all. Its quite complicated, but very interesting, one of the few places in history Anarcho-Libertarians successfully prosper for a time period.

It's buggy as fuck so I won't release it to the public, mostly playing through to see what needs to be fixed/tweaked. I'll release it here/HPP subforum sometime in the future.

I fucking love this general tbqh

>>140900220
All grand strategy titles based before 2020 are allowed. All after aren't grand strategy, but are in fact fantasy games.

>>140900270
If the Steamgroup really outnumbers the other /gsg/ factions then that means the Steamgroup most accurately represents the wishes of the average /gsg/er. Irrelevant though, because this isn't the Steamgroup and you are still just trying to poison the well.

>>140900392
>x is grand strategy because I say it is
>y isn't grand strategy because I say it isn't
meanwhile >>140897248

>>140900249
>26.91
You are a brave man
event 18540 lad

>>140900430
this

>>140900270
the only person falseflagging here is you, fuck off.

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All this paranoia about a steam group is kind of embarrassing you guys.

I'm >>140894492 and I literally never post here ever. In fact, that's the first time I've ever posted in this thread. I came here because Paradox and Distant Worlds and Stellaris, and I'm excited about Stellaris, and wanted to talk to other fans, and this general has Distant Worlds and Paradox in the OP, so guess what I assumed?

And now you old hats are getting blown the fuck out. I actually feel bad, like, I'm sorry I caused a civil war but, you guys really should let us post and be free men like the rest of you because we're all just human and slavery is wrong.

I'll arrange a rebrand for may 9th including a schism, possibly temporary, and run a poll on it tomorrow when we're busiest, these are clearly not peak hours.

>>140900558
>lose
>keep making new polls until you win
wew

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>>140900532
>cheating

no one would dare invade Ryukyu, anyway!

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>I never cheat in gsg

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>>140900627
>these are prime hours
Nice Australia post.

To be quite Frank event 18540 is not cheating per se any more than save scumming as long as you only use it to remove infamy gained from fabricating casus bellii.

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If Hitler were alive, he would probably agree that Stellaris is a grand strategy game.

He loved dogs very much you know.

>>140900830
>n-no it d-doesn't c-count!!

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>>140900830
>tuesday midnight is not peak hours for the NEET neckbeard scum that wastes thousands of hours on shitty swedish made mana simulators.

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>>140900830
>implying there's anything wrong with Australians

>>140900992
Hitler was a closet gay and probably a furry as well