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Janny is a cunt edition

Last thread: >>140797083

>What is this?
A place to discuss all rogue-lites and related games and topics. Examples: The Binding of Isaac, Nuclear Throne, Enter the Gungeon, Faster than Light, Spelunky, and Rogue Legacy.

>List of Some Rogue-lites (W.I.P)
http://pastebin.com/rwnYefeG (embed)

>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rogue-lite

>/NTG/ Pastebins
Character Ideas http://pastebin.com/JnGYReQj (embed)
Crown Ideas http://pastebin.com/TjhD5NAk (embed)
Soundmods http://pastebin.com/bAtMbDCV (embed)
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>>140880742
What happened to the last thread?
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ded but i got snakes n rocks coming
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>pruned or deleted
What were they thinking?
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>>140880924
Inexplicably deleted
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>>140880742
>feG

proud of you OP

>(embed)
>(embed)
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ok significantly less proud of you OP

still a net positive
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Feels super hot man.
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>>140881060
>he did it without abusing clone or boss rush

i-impossible!
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>>140881060
>30 deaths
>beaten bullet hell
what the fuck
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>>140881060
I've been trying for that all day. I come so close and still take a hit somewhere >.>
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>>140881060
Hot stuff.
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>>140881204

I'm actually still working on fixing that damn elevator.

>>140881240

I know that feel man, it took me awhile to get this one. The Black Hole Generator helped me pull off a flawless against the High Priest, that fucker always gives me trouble. The Dragun is pretty easy for me at this point though.
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>see everyone playing gungeon
>want to play it myself
>have the money
>saving for when i get new non toaster PC so i can afford phantom pain
shoot me
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>>140881216
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>>140881672

You'll be shot in the gungeon.
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>>140880982
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>>140881060
Super Hot Watch is way more annoying than helpful if you're good

Finished a cursed run myself, first time finding Gunther.
>wow this gun suc-
>oh fuck

Just Hunter left to go. Should be good since Winchester gave me Heroine after having botched the first boss.
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>>140882203
cute
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>>140881817
I know I'm shit, but that's just ridiculous. You must be extremely experienced in bullet hells.
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>>140882565
well this IS /ntg/
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>>140882460

Nice. And yeah, Gunther is fucking hilarious. My first Lich kill I had Gunther and had prayed at a YV shrine like 10 times, everything was fucking melting.

>>140882565

Most of those deaths were from pretty early on when I was wrangling how the game worked; past a certain point I just sort of stopped dying, I guess.

I really haven't played any bullet hells at all before this one. Before Gungeon I was mostly playing Isaac, and I wouldn't call that a bullet hell by any stretch of the imagination.
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>>140882651
>implying
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>>140882203
You'd think they'd be less happy.
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>Ice Cube
>Double Vision
>permanent double damage
It feels good.
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Anyone get the Mauser yet? If so is it worth all the trouble?
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>Charm Horn Gunsinger and Bulletkin
>Gunsinger buffs the charmed Bulletkin, who then kills him
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hmm what could it be
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>chairs
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>>140889812
ahem
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I FUCKING HATE THE PRIEST
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>>140890134
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>>140890484
What's the gun on the right?
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Fun fact: Mega Douser instakills dragun's homing skulls
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>>140890551
It's an ice beam.

Also, what is this guy doing here?
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>>140890484
...it seems I forgot to pick up a gun.
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>>140890551
Freeze Ray.

>>140891487
It's a snitch brick, they spawn near secret room entrances if you have brick of cash.
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>>140891790
thanks anon
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>>140891954
... and this run is getting ridiculous.
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>>140892234
Where does he get those wonderful toys?
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>>140882203
Nice.
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This is not optimal.
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RNG not on my side today with these gun drops. That was a longer run than what I had hoped for.
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They really need to update the steam images. There's a ton of shit there that's outdated or not even in the game.
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>>140904359
>hasn't been in the pyramid level yet
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>>140905175
dude the boss fight is fucking intense but flawlessing it, man the fucking item is amazing
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>got 2 keys from gorgun
>two great actives in the shop
>already got medkit
>"might as well open the brown chest for the first time in my life"
>backpack
B A S E D
which one do I buy?
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>>140916972
double vision
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>buffalo bello

>>140917123
thanks
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first time in the abbey
will I kill him?
what do I use
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>>140918332
nevermind
do I switch out the double vision with the box?
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>use the D20 shrine
>at full health
>it "heals me" and halves my max ammo
This is why we can't have nice things.
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>not even 2 minutes in
>smoke my armor off
>reveal secret room
This looks promising at best.
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Man I love stealing the owl from the ghost bullet. I just bought sixth chamber and charm horn from cursula in the demon face. Walked to the bullet guy and stole the owl. I got the owl for cheaper this way and got sixth chamber with a lot of curse on it. Grappling hooking his shit is also fun cause you get grappling hook quite often.
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Whoa
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>tfw unlocked bloodied scarf and super hot watch on the same run
I accidentally dropped the medkit, but w/e
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>>140921142
this image gave me cancer. you know there is a quick restart button?

anyway I feel for you..
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>>140921447
Try feeling this.
I'm not restarting after finally getting lung cancer.
>inb4 update your damn game
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JESUS CHRIST
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Since I've become fucking invincible, what should I feed to muncher?
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>>140922738
pic
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>>140922869
sling and shock rifle
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>>140923039
I applause to you.
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>>140923285
wew lad
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>>140923285
>he is starting to believe
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That concludes the cheese.
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Also.
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>>140927364

Never trust a Muncher.
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>>140927364
Yeah, that happens when you unlock gunslinger's ashes.
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>>140928838
see >>140926427

>select all images with tricycles
>no tricycles
>select three at random
>approved
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>>140931393
>[current year]
>using the select images captcha
oh im laffin
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>Boss rush
>Hit once by gull
>Flawless twins
>Flawless king
>Once by beholster
>Flawless ammoconda
>Once by gorgun
>Six times by cannonbalrog
>Flawless treadnaught
Pretty much a summary of normal boss battles too.
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Whatcha got left?
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>>140933487
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>>140933662
Woodsie Lord is easy to do, and the unlock is nice.
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>>140933759
I know, for some reason any items that can steal just don't want to spawn.
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>finding out you get a master round for clearing a boss with no hits,not by not getting hit once in the entire chamber.
I feel cheated.
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>>140934489
Heh, at least it's not a bad practice to get into. Supposedly you can get hit during the boss fight too, as long as it isn't by the boss.
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>browsing steam discussions
>guy says game is too RNG dependent
>literally impossible to win unless you get mega hand and double vision
>ends post requesting ez mode
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>>140939218
>browsing steam discussions
>not posting pics so we can all laugh at it
you're just as bad Tbh
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>>140939381
did it for you senpai~
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>>140939519
Kids nowadays.
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>>140939519
>cropping the profile so we can't send him edgy death threads
baka desu senpai
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>>140939519
>fun mode where you start off with a random gun
>What is sorceress
>What are skips
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>>140940023
>Implying he even played enough to flawless the first boss
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>>140939519
>There isnt any point either in downloading the 100% file because that just means youre gonna get the fun good stuff less.
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>>140940523
>his definition of fun is point and click to watch everything die without having to dodge at all
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>>140940523
You know that it's possible to bloat item pool, right?
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>>140939519
>Specifically request random-gun mode
>100% file would have random-gun mode available immediately
>Doesn't want a 100% file because you get fun stuff less often

How do morons like this operate a computer?
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>>140942896
Of course. Might as well mod the game if you want RNG to be significantly in your favor for "fun", though.
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>>140944030
I wonder how many people did that to afterbirth.
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>>140946202
I did.
You couldn't change everything, though - for example, the stopwatch nerf.
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>>140939519
That's honestly the reason why I only play as eden in Afterbirth
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>>140942896
Sure. Ignoring the fact that people that avoid adding items to their pool are scrubs, the vast majority of Gungeon's unlockables are good.
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I wish Blobulord, Old King, and Lich were in boss rush.
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>>140953764
I haven't unlocked microtransaction gun, monster blood, fossil gun and RC rocket. I have like 500 spare credits but those 4 items are not to my liking and I doubt I'll ever buy them. Maybe RC rocket one day but I honestly hate controllable missiles in games. Also I regret unlocking Yari launcher that shit runs out of ammo faster than I can say
"cat".
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>wait,you can unlock the microtransaction gun?
>a wiki trip later
>well sorry for liking the game so much
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>>140957818
RC Rocket is unholy with Angry Bullets. Absolutely disgustingly good, you can clear an entire room with one rocket.
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>>140956948
and blockner

>>140958126
>This gun can be unlocked IMMEDIATELY by buying etc etc...
You can also buy it from Cadence with Hentai Credits, it's just expensive and one of the last available options.
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>>140956948
mahoguny is like real good though
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>>140957818
Monster blood is whatever, it may make you immune poison which is ok. I haven't decided what I think of MXT yet first time I had it I used it on Wallmonger and it seemed bad, second time I used it on something else and it was good. Fossil gun is pretty risky to use, not sure I liek that one. RC Rocket is downright good.
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>>140921425
Actually get them on the same run and you have no excuse for ever getting hit again.
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>>140958569
so good they should gimp it though?
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>>140958875
>350 to 50 is "gimping"
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>>140958126
>Pay To Win
>Everyone involved in the production of this gun thought it was a bad idea, but the higher-ups made them build it anyway. Later, management shut down that gun factory for making a gun no one liked.
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>tfw pilot past theme
>tfw bullet hell theme
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>>140959462
what are they?
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>>140959462
>tfw thumbnail theme
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>>140960584
I mean the soundtracks of those levels are really on point.

https://youtu.be/0gNSS2HWd18?t=1977
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>>140961203
>https://youtu.be/0gNSS2HWd18?t=1977
> OFFICE PARTY MASSACRE
> INTER OFFICE ANIHILATION
???
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Who has better music?
EtG or NT?
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>>140963864
nuclear throne by a longshot
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>>140959048
Joke
>their heads
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Anyways the micro transaction gun is on sale is there another set of weapons of is that it for that shop
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>>140963864
Crypt of the Necrodancer by far
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>>140963864
Gungeon has very few great tracks, while nuclear throne is overall good.

>>140964352
Nope, don't buy it.
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>>140963864
EtG
The Hollow and Forge themes are definitely the best ones
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>>140964352
That's last weapon on that shop.
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>>140964463
oh shit i need to play some necrodancer with the 2 new soundtracks that were added recently

thanks 4 remind me anon
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>>140962115
More levels in the future?????????????????
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>>140962115
Those two are really fucking good and I wonder where they are used, and if not used currently, when they will be used.
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I don't know much about enter the gungeon. does enter the gungeon have...
Guns for fake necklace?
Guns that send texts?
Guns that make breakfast?
Guns that sign breasts?
Guns that straight festive?
Guns with sixth senses?
Guns that hate texas?
Guns that wear vests?
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>>140966728
>Guns for fake necklace?
dont think so
>Guns that send texts?
does mailbox count? or origuni
>Guns that make breakfast?
scrambler shoots eggs
i guess you'd need one of the firey guns to fry them
>Guns that sign breasts?
no :(
>Guns that straight festive?
ya fer sure
>Guns with sixth senses?
homing guns i guess
>Guns that hate texas?
everyone hates texas
>Guns that wear vests?
high priest probably has a dorky sweatervest under that robe
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>>140966728
yeEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inMRecbkkWI
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>chamber 1 as pilot
>shelleton key
>mimic tooth necklace
>smiley's revolver
???
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Secret Rooms that only contain one heart or armour or blank should just be removed and replaced with Shrine rooms.

Too many Shrines that don't pop up off enough.
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>>140967181
post you're death
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>>140967181
Drop the fucking Necklace.

Why would you keep that shit when locks are dead to you?
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>>140966728
>Guns for fake necklace?
there is a mimic tooth necklace that can get you guns...
>Guns that send texts?
lowercase r
>Guns that make breakfast?
scrambler
>Guns that sign breasts?
mega douser
>Guns that straight festive?
mail gun
>Guns with sixth senses?
gunther
>Guns that hate texas?
all guns
>Guns that wear vests?
high priest
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>>140967334
In 101 runs I've only see the Y.V. and D20 shrines twice each.
And the fountain never.
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>>140967525
>glitter
>festive
dis nigga over here
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>>140966728
Reminder that you don't get "guns that sign breastses" in NT anymore
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>>140966728
There are some some shiny ass guns
Yes
Also yes
Sure
Doubt it
Almost all of them can find secret walls
No
Ye
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>>140967802
NT used to have guns that sign breastses?
pic pls
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>>140967104
Welp, now I have to buy this game.
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>>140967802
>removed the gator cigarettes
literally a game tailored to underage youth
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Just found makeshift cannon for the first time. 1/1 ammo? Wtf does this thing do?
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>>140970284
>Wtf does this thing do?
point the open end at a bad thing
then do a lot of damage to the bad thing
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>>140970516
Just found Gunzheng, this run is full of stuff I've never found. Any idea about this one?
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play Gungeon with acid or shrooms
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>>140972441
Cigs
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>>140972441
the latter
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>>140972441
>>140972441
RECORD THIS RUN
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>>140972047
Literally used just that to kill all 5 bosses. It has massive damage output and no reloads. A+ item.
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First floor. How lucky am I? I heard it is good, but this will be my first time using it if I get the keys for it.
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>>140974298
It basically makes all locks unlocked and is a good weapon by itself.
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>>140974298
see >>140967181
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>>140974567 >>140974675

tfw explored the entire floor and 1 key away. It's a sad day.
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>>140974827

Fuck, not even in the store?
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>>140974903
Aaaand I got it.
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>roll into room
>immediately take damage

thanks dodgeroll games
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>>140967181
>>140974298

I also got a damage up shrine.

If only this was a real run. I started on the level 3 shortcut.
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>>140976086
bummer at least you have membrane
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>Finally find Lonk in Forge
>It's a no guns all passives episode
>Time to full clear the forge with the rogue special
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>>140976757
>playing Pilot
>find a locked room
>no keys use lockpicks
>lockpicks fail
>oh well
>find Lonk later that same chamber
>can't enter that locked room
>can map out the chamber
>no map in store either

heck
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>>140976363
also elder blank and spice now

i used my ammo drop on floor 3 so i could pick up the gunpowder but in my lust for (you)s i forgot to pick it up and went right down the elevator

so now i'm in floor 5 with no gunpowder
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Holy shit my heart is beating so fast, I fucking did it. The hard part is over. If I can full clear the rest of the forge for Lonk I'll have 100%.
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>>140977685
Working on clearing the forge now, found metronome. Turns out it has a hardcoded synergy with something. Based on my items I'd guess it's gunzheng.
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>>140976086
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>Need 180 casings and 4 keys top open up the third floor elevator
>Find 190 and 3 keys
>0 shops at all so can't sell my shit for more casings to buy the last key I need
This game would be great if not for all the fucking grinding RNG. It's just not fun.
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>>140978454
Checkmate Dodge Roll Games.

Plz make more, it was such a good ride. I need more ;_;
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>>140980467
>160 hours
Jesus fucking christ.
Good job though.
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>>140979748
then dont play
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>>140979748
Biggest problems with Roguelites is unlocks existing in any form whatsoever.
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Is Coin Crown worth it on Chamber 3? 54 Shekels.
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>>140979748
At least it wasn't the Forge shortcut, christ. Fortunately the only RNG grinding is the elevator and it's optional and not particularly difficult to do.
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>>140981739
I don't think so. It would have to earn you over 54 to be worth it.
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>treasure room, it's a mimic
>kill the mimic, another chest drops
>it's another mimic
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>>140980781
Yeah, it took me a while to git gud. Isaac 1001% was about 100 hours more.
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Game just got
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>>140985291
is that the hollow?
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GOOD

>>140985386
Forge and one hell of a good one.
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>>140985491
sacrifice more hearts
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>>140985743
you can only sac one. it and the d20 shrines can only be used once. triangle man blessing is infinite thou.
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>>140985910
the fallen hero shrine is also infinite
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>>140985953
you can use the blank shrine more than once too but it isn't guaranteed to work
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After completing the abbey, I consistently forget to grab the old crest from the sewer after beating the boss.

I just want extra floors for more loot, why must I speed?
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End game spoiler:

So when you kill the lich you burst out of the breach causing the hole in the skull. The hole was already there when you started the game. What does this suggest? Killing him also unlocks riddle of lead. Is this the riddle?
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>>140986301
it doesn't work for me unless I break the chest after opening it. Maybe it is due to the chests spawning in the same spot sometimes that it does not always work for you.
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>After a clumsy child of the Gungeon accidentally dropped this toy into a pit, they were forced to amuse themselves with the Dart Gun.

Light gun belonged to Cultist confirmed.
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>>140985743
One was enough mane, one was enough.
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THE PILOT'S PAST IS WAY TOO HARD REEEEEEE
I CAN'T BELIEVE I'LL HAVE TO DO THIS SHIT AGAIN
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>>140989930
Maybe it's because I've played a lot of bullet hell but I thought it was easy.

Don't forget to spam the active item, and that you can still dodge roll (barrel roll)
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>>140989930
Coincidentally, I also died in the Pilot's past today. At least I got the achievement.

>>140990572
I only realized that after using a blank. Still, for some reason the ship feels kind of clunky.
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>>140989930
>I CAN'T BELIEVE I'LL HAVE TO DO THIS SHIT AGAIN

It's so weird. A week or two ago that was how I felt as well. Now I can reliably get to the past as any character regardless of RNG. It's like a switch flipped.
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>Decide to play some Rebirth
>Remember that I hate Rebirth
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>>140990796
>I only realized that after using a blank. Still, for some reason the ship feels kind of clunky.

He has blanks?

Don't worry, I died on it too and the second time round only got hit once.
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>tfw too sober to play video games
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fuck i am so mad right now, trying to do the fucking shortcut but the faggot fucking rat is giving me corsair brick breaker and crestfaller and fucking cannonbalrog hits me fucking everytime i enter the room because of that fucking bullshit spiral shooting as he fucking floats at you
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>>140993023
crestfaller is very good vs cannonballrog. the strong slow makes most of his patterns easy to dodge.
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>>140993023
just make some space, the spiral is really easy to dodge if you get far from him

and the crestfaller will make it really easy to get away from him because it slows him the fuck down, and unlike some other bosses it also slows his shot patterns.

not sure if its damage is any good tho
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>>140993237

it would be nice if the slow effect lasted more than 5 seconds and you would actually be able to keep slowing him instead of him being impervious to it for a certain amount of time

and the damage is pitiful
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>>140993023
Every single one of those guns is an ideal balrog killer. RNG is smiling on you today. Just keep your distance from him and blast away.
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>>140993023
also if the shortcut weapons are all shit just clear a single chamber in any more and they'll reroll
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>>140991729
play Afterbirth then
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fucking hate those bouncy red bullets cannonbalrog sends out, it feels impossible to keep track of. any tips for them?
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>>140994065
If you're near the wall and attentive and not a retard you should only have to deal with each wave once.

I use the bottom wall because I find it inexplicably so much easier to dodge when below the shooter than above.
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>Never used Spice before
>Find it weird how immediately after using it I find more in the second chest on the floor
>Find secret room
>More Spice
>Beat boss
>Reward is Spice
>Used all of them
>Next level has Army Goblin
>He and the normal merchant have Spice
I've done something terrible, haven't I?
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>>140994931
Never use Spice more than two times
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>>140995014

So yes. I have fucked up.
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>>140994931

I know it raises your curse after the second time but does it keep raising your stats?
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>>140995014
If you use it more than twice does it lower all stats or just HP?
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>>140995442
Beyond the second dose it fucks you up.
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>>140995442
3+ start to lower stats including maxhp, and each one also curses and increases the chance of finding more spice
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if you take spice with only one heart will it kill you?
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>>140995542
It would make sense to me that it would increase damage and shots per second while reducing accuracy and maybe speed.
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>>140995552
To add, it's still strong since it can be held and used lategame where merchants and chest drops are unlikely for a nice boost. Just never use it too early on.
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>>140995782
I wouldn't mind going for a Spice Fiend run if I knew exactly what stats it affected on 3+, and if it could kill you by taking away your last heart container, or if it COULD kill you by taking away your last heart container, if armour would let you live on like a robbot in such a situation.
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I have over 100 hours and I have never seen a demon face.

What gives?
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Fuck. I wanted that vault. Time to go to the loop palace I guess... I have to get in the top 10 this daily. Also, a warning to NT players. Daily gets serious at the palace. 5 dogs next to spawn on palace 1, and 3 explo freaks and a dog on palace 2 near spawn
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>>140997053
Use the shrine in the very first room. It increases the chance for miscellaneous rooms to spawn.

Maybe.
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>>140997123
I meant frozen city vault.
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Is curse increasing mimic chances a meme? I think it is.
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>>140997123
I ran to wrench a robot dog to death and died of contact damage in 5-2, in the daily
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Oh god, I just got a huge score, why isn't it showing... That was the run I was going to make it top 10 too...
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>>140997828

FUCK! Why do you do this to me game? I had over 1.5k kills...
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>>140997053
I don't think >>140997278 is true. It's just random. I've seen a lot of them. I'm 160+ hours in and I've never seen any of the secret NPCs or a glitch chest.
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>>140998342
Just a joke. Cursed runs are best runs though.
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>>140998008

>my luck
>can only have 1 amazing run a day
>has to redo daily for some FUCKING reason
I hate my life, I had a 1.5k kill run...
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I guess nuclear throne and enter the gungeon are more similar than I thought.
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God fucking damn it. I'm so done with the binding of isaac. I've done ever unfair challenge, i've beaten the game as the lost and the keeper which wasn't fun and was tedious as fuck. But I, CANNOT beat this shitty fucking mode as azazel to get lilith. Azazel is too god damn slow to outrun most enemies, his range makes him god damn impossible and is more frustrating then fun in the basement due to RNG movement enemies THAT JUMP RIGHT INTO ME BEFORE I CAN MOVE.

God damn edmund i'd rather just go back to spelunky a game where its not the game that fucks me, it's the me that fucks me.
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>2nd floor pre-boss
Sweet merciful lord, why can't I get all this luck spread more evenly across my runs? I even got the Regular Shotgun and Potion of Gun Friendship from lockpicking brown chests.
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>>140999358
It's real fucking easy tbqh. But if you can't hack it, just cheese it. Greed mode is completely cheesable.
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>>140999364
Is super hot watch good? I want to try it out but it hasn't shown up.
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>>140999358
>azazel bad

how hard was he nerfed in afterbirth? I don't have it
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>>140999358
How did you get spirit of the night as azazel?
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>>140999778
Honestly it's kind of like the Bloodied Scarf, in that in theory it's godly and you should basically be able to flawless everything with it, but it completely changes the gameplay so it throws you off. It's better than the scarf though, but still hard to get used to. On the one hand, you basically pause the game at will any second to decide the better path, but on the other you can't hit anything if you're not moving, and you don't see the speed at which the enemy bullets will move once you "unpause".
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>>141000197
Not that anon. I don't know since I played Isaac way later than the general populace. I bought them together on a steam sale. I can't imagine how fucking stupid he was before if they gimped him. He is ez mode.
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>>141000207
Chaos my nigga.

>>141000197
He was nerfed hard. He used to move faster then isaac then they nerfed his speed and damage hard core. Now he can't get out of the way of most shots and is god awful for bosses like Hush or mega satan.
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>>140999358
>>141000197
Azazel is not bad by any means. Azazel is actually the easiest character to play. I can get on Afterbirth and complete greed mode real quick with azazel and post a picture to show you if you want?
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>>141000586
Speak of the devil...
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>>140999778
Good for bosses if you have trouble no-hitting, awful for regular rooms because you have to constantly move around.

Thank fuck you can drop passives in this game.
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>>141000586
Oh god lol you're completely right. It's kind of good but kind of terrible.
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>>141000808
Haven't thought of chaos. I've managed to get through greed as azazel by focusing on red health, tears and range, in that order. Skipped couple of floors without buying anything and stayed away from devil deals. I feel that being tanky and having ability to quickly kill adds is better than having burst damage for that boss.
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>>141001517
Yeah, I actually got hit on Gorgun and Cannonbalrog just because of it, lol. I always flawless those two. I realized it's generally good for attacks you can walk through, and terrible for attacks you gotta roll through. I mean if I could get it multiple runs in a row I'm sure I'd get used to it, but you know.
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>>141002264
It almost cost me my run because I insisted on using it despite the fact that I had know idea what I was doing it. Nearly died to the fucking kill pillars lol. Ended up winning the run anyway but I had to drop it about halfway through the forge or I was going to die. It's kind of funny, the rat doesn't even take it after you drop it. It seems like the sort of item that someone out there could do some amazing things with. That someone isn't me.
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>>141000586
What if you have both the Superhot watch and the scarf at the same time?
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>>140999180

You retarded?

Wizbang send SPINNING circles at you.
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>>141001710
I didn't bother with devil deals for anyone in greed mode. Sure it can be great but it didn't seem worth it to me. Azazel wasn't even particularly difficult, he was the first person I beat greed mode with specifically because I wanted to play as Lilith.
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>>141003354
you become perfectly able to dodge anything with instant teleports, probably
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superhot is a game? is it good? must be what the item is referencing.
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>>140999778
You can be a nigger and abuse the fact that changing guns resets the "downtime" between each shot if you want.

That's a clip of Gunther with a side order of Rogue Special heading for his ass.
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>>141005559
It is a very short and sweet game with a nice story. I recommend it.
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>>141003354
>>141003785
As far as I know, yeah. They compliment each other perfectly.

>>141005989
So you shoot, switch, switch back and you can shoot again with the same gun? Damn I didn't think of that.
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>>140999358
Tried to get through greed mode with azazel just to check if it's possible and it was not luck the first time. Got amazing items including fucking pyromaniac, fucking small planet, fucking vampire, some damage ups, tear ups, four hearts and no range. A cherry on a cake was a guppy paw in a red chest in final devil room. It was not hard to stay alive in a final fight, although I've used guppy paw twice, but damaging ultra greed with a beam that barely extends from small planet circle was tricky.

And then I looked at greed machine, checked wiki, found out that a 1000 coins is needed to unlock Keeper and decided to fuck off. Haven't bothered with Lost in Rebirth, wouldn't bother with Keeper in this.
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>>141006291
you can do it without watch too, but obviously it's not as fast

the current WR speedrun abuses this bug + Blasphemy to cheese through everything
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>>141006816
Get a single breaking run in greed mode and grind it out for Keeper. Keeper is shit, but on the way you will unlock holy mantle for Lost. It changes him from annoying, to a really fun and well designed challenge character.
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I do this, right?

I have utility belt. I have 660 ammo on that thing.
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>>141008357
combine it with the stinger for nigh-infinite rockets
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>>141008538
That was the implication.

And what an implication.
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>>141008357
I still don't understand tape. For example is the result of taping a stinger to a patriot different than taping a patriot to a stinger?
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>>141008778
yes

if the patriot is the one in your hands when you use tape the resulting gun will have 600 ammo

if it's the stinger you'll have 50 ammo
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>>141008778
I believe it retains the ammo capacity and reload speed of the first gun.

Best part is I stole that Stinger with Charm Horn just before going in and I already have 3 items. Ridiculous how many active items have come up this time round, Lockpick, Potion of Gun Friendship, Fortune's Favour, Charm Horn, and now Duct Tape. By the end of Oubliette.
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>>141008862
Oh man, now I want to attach the AU Gun to the Gungine.
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is gungine + bug boots just infinite ammo
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>>141009324
Just so you know, each gun retains it's clip size.

So with that Patriot I have to reload after firing the missile on the first shot to fire another Stinger.

So guns with obscenely good reload times are viable options for strapping a Stinger or Au gun or something to as well.
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Oh sweet Jesus you have NO idea how much I want Metronome.

Pot of Gun Friendship and Double Vision, a Charm Horn to steal whatever I want, a Patriot Stinger, a metronome would give me insane damage.
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>>141010167
I don't know which gods I pleased for this run but it just won't stop.

Between the Megahand and the Patriot Stinger I have enough ammo to decimate every room, and this just drops giving me about triple the DPS on the Patriot Stinger.
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Missed lead god by getting cheeky with Lead Skin during the Wallmonger fight.

Wouldn't be so bad, but I don't even need it to not get hit, I was just trying to speed up the fight a bit.
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The only gun I need.
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>>140997053
130 hours, no Rainbow chest, no glitch chest. It's a rough life.
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>>141013309
I missed it yesterday for something similar, and then I got it today. If you're this close you'll get it sooner or later.
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Okay, I gotta know. After beating virtually everything there is to beat in EtG (just missing some hunts) I STILL have trouble realizing when I'm on fire or poisoned sometimes in hectic situations. Am I just retarded or is the indicator really... terrible? Some sound, something? I dunno.
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>>141013531
I could deal with that I just want my last cheevo.
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>>141013531
>200 hours in
>no rainbow chest
>2 glitched chests
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> haven't been hit during draguns 2nd phase since I first beat him
>get hit 90% of the time during wallmongers fire spit bullet wall attack
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Uhh... you okay there, game?
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>>141006291
>They compliment each other perfectly.

I found a video where someone just so happened ti have both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H16U3VsSHCA

It does seem like they compliment each other, but the interaction with the long range teleport is just weird.
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>>141016039
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H16U3VsSHCA
>video date 4/25

>1.0.7
>4/27
Fixed an issue where the Super Hot Watch and the Bloody Scarf interacted to pause the game for long periods of time
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>tfw I don't have a reaction image saved to properly express my disappointment with the Yari Launcher
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why the hell does the kill pillars have to do full heart of damage in the spinning phase anyway
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>>141016938
Notice the color difference of the shots? Those are jammed bullets. All jammed enemies do this.
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>>141016938
Good question.

It's one of the easiest attacks in the game to avoid. More of the bosses should have something similar to further punish people for being bad.
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>>141017087
well i guess bullet king's fire attack can punish people for being *extremely* bad, if they somehow get hit by it and then also don't know to roll to put out fire
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>>141016938
Fun fact another boss that does jammed shots, the old king has statues of the kill pillar final form in his room. If you talk to the drunkard after beating the kill pillars he says, "Four ancient statues for four dead bullets. ...and now even their statues have been ground to dust. Tell me... at the end. Did you see her? I can see in your eyes that you did. Know this: she is behind much of this." This refers to the kill pillars final form "she" is Kalibur. dlc for fighting kalibur when?
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>>141017087
except you end rolling into the pillars anyway
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>>141017674
I thought the "she" was referring to the Blacksmith.
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iiiiiiIIIIIIIII DID IT OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
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>>141020890
congrats
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>>141020890
>not looping
scrub
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>>141021981
I was panicking like crazy and he got too far, so I just started firing at him.

Also is byootiful.
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dragun's bullet attack feels like complete bullshit

why can't the screen show me the bottom of the fucking arena?
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>>141022536
Thank you, finally. The camera in that fight is the most pants-on-head retarded decision I've seen in this game.
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>>141022036
Yeah, Melting B a best.
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>>141024878
It's pretty nice, very pretty and satisfying.

I did get this today too.
Very very nice~
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in gungeon, is it faster to dodge roll or walk?
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>>140939519
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So I just got blessed and now all my guns are transforming into random weapons.
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>>141025046
horror B is shit tho
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So basically the M60 is the most ammo-efficient grenade launcher in the entire game.

I wonder if it was intended to work like this?
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I hate the unlock system

Why do I have to play 10 hours before the game lets me use fun weapons?
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>>141028970
Because Binding of Isaac, League of Legends, and Rogue Legacy were games.
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>>140882651
>implying /ntg/ would call nuclear throne a bullet hell
>implying you faggots don't just spam melee to win
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>>141027787
you're a shit
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>>141032069
>liking the shitty jellybean instead of based rad pupper
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Is meritous a rouguelite?
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Is there any cheat engine tables that affect coolness in Gungeon? I completed all the characters, beat 6th chamber, etc. Now I want to bump the coolness/luck up a bit and enjoy the gunplay while getting the last of the hegemony credits I need.

I seem to remember somebody mentioning that they changed it before, but I can't find a table with it on the cheat engine forums.
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>first room of the floor is the small '4 grenades' room
fuck
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>gungeon
>having my first run for weekswhere I actually get a decent gun
>get to the oubliette
>[veteran bullet kin intensifies]
>[veteran shotgun kin intensifies]
>roller room
>fire platform room
>left with half a heart and a demon head with 350 rounds when I finally get to the boss
>die to retarded damage
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>>141039807
>mfw my good run with good weapons ends in oubliette because blob has fucking patterns way harder than first floor bosses
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>>140932518
>beholster
>cannonbalrog
fuck these
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>>140966728
bullet!
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>>141040128
>that one fucking room in oubliette where you're in a corner with walls, a veteran shotgun kin if you pop out, more shotgun kins on the other side and a poison blobulon coming for you
F U C K
O F F
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>Start game as marine
>No key drops on the first floor
>Only one in the shop
>No key drops on the second floor
>Only one in the shop
>No key drops on the third floor
>Only one in the shop
>First key drop is halfway into floor four
>I just picked it up as a knee jerk reaction
>Realize my mistake afterwards
>Shop has no key

For fucks sake
[/spoiler]I love this game[/spoiler]
>>
Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth wasn't that bad. Explain.
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>>141040361
Explain what?
How shit it was?
Do you really want me to go back to the archives for it?
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>>141040128

Actually blob is way easier than any of the first floor bosses. All 3 of them have variations in their patterns. Blobulon's patterns are always the same.
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>>141040323
Also should mention no key drops on any of the bosses

Fucked the spoilers up too
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>Manage to cheese the Treadnaught with the Stinger, and get past the Black Powder Mine for the first time
>First time in the Hollow
>Fucking breeze through it
>Slaughter the Killer Pillars after being scared by that room filling attack
>The Forge
>Dead Blow throws me off my groove, and I fall into lava
I'll never get gud.
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>>141040408
It wasn't that bad though. Personally I think it was a lot more fun than the original Binding of Isaac.
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>>141040361
>>141040408
>>141040683
Alright.
>time-gated content
>fatmund being salty over the lost
>buggy as fuck
>literally unavoidable damage
>bosses with damage scaling
>nerfing purely out of spite
>ARG with reddit in a small town, so only like 5 people could participate
>autistic greed machine grinding
>keeper is god-awful
>item-pools further made ridiculously big with more beans
>challenges being un-fun and bullshit
>guardian in particular
>the little shit would walk into spikes by himself and get you hurt
>he walked into bullets and enemies
>SPEED was unfair as everything was sped up (except you)
>new pills are either useless or actively detrimental (and they didn't buff PHD to compensate)
>the unlocks they added for mega satan and completing post it notes are all worthless co-op babies
>the promised "new floor with exciting conclusion!" is literally two item rooms, a shop, an empty room and a really boring boss fight with damage scaling that makes your build irrelevant
>most of the new enemies are just reskins of existing enemies with boring gimmicks (eg the candy corn flies)
>some of the new bosses are poorly designed and not fun at all to fight (rag man, brownie)
>of the two new characters, one is really gimmicky and was nerfed shortly after release by making her space item shitty (and the other was deliberately made to be as tedious as possible)
>azazel got kneecapped for being strong but didn't have any interesting synergies added to him, making him pointless
>spikes and rocks added to item rooms as nothing more than a "fuck you" and occasionally keeping you from getting items because lolnobombs
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>the barrel of water is 6 rooms away from the chimney
Welp, gotta roll fast.
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>>141040871
>mfw i found perfect music for doing this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ0xBCwkg3E
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>>141040871

>Get a water based weapon
>Forget that I can put out the fire with it until the second floor
Every time.
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Pig was the MVP.
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>>141040712
>time-gated content
I will admit how they did that was a bad idea
>fatmund being salty over the lost
It was supposed to be a huge secret and people just ruined it. I can see why Edmund would be so salty about it.
>buggy as fuck
I had never experienced a single bug? In the original however I always had bosses stuck outside of the fighting area.
>literally unavoidable damage
That is like 100 rooms out of over 5,000 possibilities, and it is usually only 1 damage. If you are not bad at the game, taking only 1 damage is fine since you would have close to full health anyways.
>bosses with damage scaling
Alright, that pissed me off at first too, but it actually requires you to have a little bit of skill, so I liked it.
>nerfing purely out of spite
If you are talking about azazel, They needed a nerf in my opinion, and even afterwards they were still easy to play as.
>autistic greed machine grinding
It's called playing greed mode for fun/messing around, you get there when you get there. No need to constantly grind and wear yourself out to the point you are sick of the game.
>keeper is god-awful
I agree on that.
>item-pools made bigger
You mean there is less chance of game breaking items? Oh no! You need to actually try!
>challenges being unfair and bullshit
I don't know what to say to this one, The only ones I had problems with are Speed and guardian.
>new pills are useless or detrimental
You have more of a risk taking random pills lying on the ground? Common sense says that if you eat a random pill off the ground, it'll probably be bad, so I have no problem with them adding more risk to it.
>Unlocks for mega-satan and completing post it notes are co-op babies
Some of us like playing co-op.
>spikes and rocks in item rooms
I kinda agree that that was bad.

Overall, I think people were just complaining because the game started to require actual skill instead of getting a broken run after 3-4 floors. I had no problems with Afterbirth, just some minor annoyances.
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>>141041782
>taking unavoidable damage is okay
Opinion discarded.
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>>141041980
Well, it is not very often that there is a room that you take unavoidable damage in, and in those rooms, by the time you get them, you usually have enough damage or tear ups to kill the enemies before they hit you, unless you are having a below average run. If you have close to full health or full health and you take 1 damage, you can just go pick up a health drop, it's not that hard really.
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>>141042161
>enter a room
>immediately get hit by an invincible fly of a champion enemy as soon as I enter the room
yeah, nah, you're a shitcunt
there is so much fucking wrong with that post I won't even bother with it.
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>>141042270
That room has never appeared for me then I guess, I am talking about the one with maggots that charge at you, or the mullibooms in a single pathway with no floor besides that.
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>>141040323
>Restart as marine
>No keys drops on the first, second or third floor
>No keys from first, second or third floor boss
>Third floor shop is locked

Boy do I love that key drop buff
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>>141040323
>>I just picked it up as a knee jerk reaction
>>Realize my mistake afterwards
Why would that be a mistake? Please educate me.
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>>141040408
It wasn't. Literally the only thing wrong with the grant game is greed mode grinding. Many other complaints are from shitters making excuses. They nerf this and that! Unavoidable damage! Damaging scaling! Shitters in a nutshell.
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>>141043347
Key drops are guaranteed on shops if you haven't picked one up yet, and the rat won't take them so they're safe to leave on the floor until you reach the shop

Also

>Fourth floor
>No key drops
>Only one in the shop

If the cool stat raises your drop rate, I'm clearly the dorkiest motherfucker on this planet
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>>141043347
No key pickup on current chamber = shop has guaranteed key upon entry.
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>>141043696
>unavoidable damage is okay
How fucking retarded can you get?
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>>141043795
Being cursed is cool.
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>>141043347
If you have not yet picked a key up on that floor, the shop is guaranteed to have at least 1 key for sale.

The intended behavior was so that a key drop would be the trigger event rather than picking one up and honestly I wouldn't be sad to see this go since it adds a layer of unnecessary backtracking if you want to min-max. The Rat exists specifically to prevent this sort of min-max behavior as it slows the game down to a goddamn crawl. It's just that he doesn't affect keys so people found ways to cheese it. No idea what they'd do about swapping actives back and forth in order to leapfrog them to a sell creep though.

Really the shop should just always have shit for sale, it's either feast or famine as it is.
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>>141040323
>you get to the fourth floor
>a key finally drops
>the shop is locked

everytime.
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Anyone else sort of dreading the new challenges in the binding of isaac afterbirth+ expansion?

Isaac is one of the few games I go full completionist on, but some of the challenges are downright frustrating and full of RNG. Doing shit like Brains and Speed are challenges I never want to go through again. I'm hoping the challenges lean more towards the fun/interesting side than the near-impossible side.
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>>141044159
Not nearly as shit as you apparently.
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>>141040712

>>azazel got kneecapped for being strong but didn't have any interesting synergies added to him, making him pointless

Azazel got the smallest nerf in the world you fucking pussy. There was only one (1) patch that he was actually shit on and that was nicalis being fuckups as usual and nerfing his damage accidentally as well. He's still the baby ez mode character, just with a marginally longer charge up time.

Also, you're full of hot shit for saying he got no synergies. Get rubber cement and fire your brimstone at a wall. It compeletely removes the one and only drawback to the character. That's not the only one he got either.

>>ARG with reddit in a small town, so only like 5 people could participate

You fucking what, nigger? Santa Ana is just outside of LA, the second biggest city in the US. Like I think it sucks ass that only people there could participate in that section of the ARG, but pretending it's a small rural town is a little fucking rich, don't you think?

>>the unlocks they added for mega satan and completing post it notes are all worthless co-op babies

No, the unlock for Mega Satan was Mega!, you retard. It's a powerful item, so it requires you to beat him with all of the characters.

>>new pills are either useless or actively detrimental (and they didn't buff PHD to compensate)

>Pills are bad meme

They added a few neutral pills to balance out number between good, bad, and neutral and you fucks act like pills are ruined forever. PHD is still usefull as it means you never take a shitty pill again. THAT INCLUDES SHITTY NEUTRAL ONES.


If you're going to complain about shit, at least complain about things that make sense. Like removing chest loops and dailys being infested with cheaters. Padding your stupid list with retarded shit only makes your argument look weaker, not stronger.
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>>141044586
No point doing stuff that aren't fun, I'll just cheat on the ones that are ass.
>m-muh satisfaction!
And it's okay for the game to cheat on me with unavoidable damage?
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>>141044937
>PHD is still usefull as it means you never take a shitty pill again. THAT INCLUDES SHITTY NEUTRAL ONES.

I'm like 90% sure that isn't true.
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>>141044937
>stan's head is good
>literally needs a whole floor to recharge and it does mediocre damage
>rare as fuck, you might as well be grinding for the greed machine
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>>141044937
>THAT INCLUDES SHITTY NEUTRAL ONES.
>one makes you larger
>paralysis
>r u a wizard?
>I found pills
>puberty

These are all pretty shitty and you can still get them with PHD
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>>141044937
>>141045142
follow up
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/PHD#Notes

So yeah if you can describe a neutral pill as good or shitty then it's not fucking neutral.
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>>141044937
>PHD is still usefull as it means you never take a shitty pill again. THAT INCLUDES SHITTY NEUTRAL ONES.
???, Addicted, R U a Wizard, Paralysis, Explosive Diarrhea, Hematemesis.
Those last 2 are debatable if you use them in very specific conditions, but the other ones are absolutely awful pills that PhD does diddly squat about other than identifying their name so you know that the pills suck on this run.
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>>141045142
>>141045238
>>141045316
>>141045334


It identifies all of the pills, dumbasses. So unless you want to be "XD SO RADNUM", you never take a bad pill again. Only exception is if you forget about PHD and use an ??? pill. I'm not saying it converts them into good pills.


>>141045143

IT RECHARGES WHILE YOU'RE CLEARING ROOMS. So you have maybe 4 more rooms after it's dead before it's full recharged? Explain how that's bad or weak, retard. When you use it on boss rush, you only have to fight 1 wave before it's charged again (unless you end up against certain enemies with long death timers).
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>>141045316
They count as neutral you fucking moron.

>>141045492
I would never take satan head over tammy's head.
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>>141045492
Whether you take them or not doesn't change the fact that having a fucking HUGE neutral pill pool doesn't make PHD worse

Look at this fucking picture. More than half of the neutral pills can be considered good/bad yet when you get phd you can still find a dozen ??? pills in a fucking row. A pill that literally gives you a curse effect. (You know curses are considered bad in this game).

It's laziness and it's fucking bad game design and it's literally undefendable.
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>>141045678

I wouldn't either because I think mega is boring after you use it the first few times. But pretending it's a bad item because of it's charge time is just so stupid when at least half the charge time is mitigated while using the fucking thing in the first place.
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>>141045781
Stop trying, these people think unavoidable damage is alright.
Avoid reddit refugees like plague.
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>>141044586
>Anyone else sort of dreading the new challenges in the binding of isaac afterbirth+ expansion?
No, I look forward to the challenge.

>>>141045030
Kek actual shitters in my /lite/
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>>141046129
>having fun is worse than being an autistic grindy faggot that sucks on the dev's feet
nice meme lad
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>>141045781

PHD has NEVER effected neutral pills. Why the fuck are you complaining now? They added more good neutral pills than bad (fun fucking fact: one makes you larger doesn't increase your hitbox, so it's not a bad pill). Literally the only complaint you dumbfucks can have is about "???" AND YOU'D KNOW IF IT IS A ??? PILL IF YOU GET PHD MEANING YOU NEVER HAVE TO TAKE IT AGAIN. As opposed to if you don't have PHD and you have to remember the whole run otherwise.

NOT TO MENTION PHD GOT ONE OF THE BIGGEST SYNERGY BUFFS IN THE GAME FROM PLACEBO BEING INTRODUCED, MEANING YOU CAN CHEESE THE GAME WITH +STATS

>>141045914

I'm a different person than that idiot, you actual retard. Notice how I didn't say a damn thing about unavoidable damage in my posts? That's Nicalis being incompetent as per usual. That, the blue womb being small, and spikes on item rooms are actually valid arguments for bad additions. "duh, more neutral pills" isn't.
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>>141046297
Oh, sorry then.
I don't really mind pills, but those with obvious negative effect should not appear with PHD.
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>>141046476

I don't necessarily disagree, I just hate the "PhD is bad now" memeposters. I thought paralysis and R U a Wizard? not being changed by it in Rebirth was kinda weird. But, PhD is just as strong, if not stronger than before, thanks to more situational pills (Infested?, Power Pill) and Placebo's existence. Saying it's trash or useless is dumb as hell.
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>>141046925
>If they're not like me they don't belong here!!!
Maybe you're the problem here.
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>>141047037
PHD isn't trash, I just think it would be more fun and useful if you couldn't get Addicted, Paralysis or R U a Wizard with it, which are obviously bad pills.
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>>141047117
Maybe you're playing the wrong genre. Have you considered SAM and Cheatengine? With their powers combined even you can win!
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>>141047117
Not that guy, but why would you even play this genre if not for the challenge and difficulty.
There are plenty of babby-tier games out there for you to choose from.
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>>141047310
I like difficult games, but straight out unavoidable damage shouldn't be defended, but the redditors here are trying their best to do that.
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>>141046925
That is so poorly done, the pics don't even relate to the context.
Also too much blank space.
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>>141047370
I bet you also think Touhou is unavoidable damage bullshit.
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>>141047448
Cool-spot is a cool dude. The other guy not so much. It's shit, yes. But it was also 3 seconds in mspaint. I invite you to do better.
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>>141046925
Fixed.
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>>141047619
I have never played touhou because I'm not an autist, but if it has invincible enemies literally spawning on top of you as you enter the room, then yes.
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>>141047965
Very subtle. For a moment I thought you Fixed it. Instead you pushed your shitter agenda. Well done anon, failing with style.
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>>141047965
People complaining about unavoidable damage should fall under the "NOT A /LITE/ MATERIAL" section as well as the ones who love it. I never said I loved it, I just said that it is not so bad as to complain about it when you can literally recover the health you lost by just backtracking a little and getting a earlier health drop.
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>>141048309
It's still unavoidable damage.
Sure, you won't die instantly most of the time, but you still took damage that would've been avoided if you were given a chance, assuming you got gud.
People complaining about stuff that's fair is already there, above the fedora elitists.
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>>141048095
This sounds like garbage, but was it intentional?
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>>141046297
>PHD has NEVER effected neutral pills. Why the fuck are you complaining now?

because the fucking Afterbirth expansion added 7 new neutral pills doubling the fucking pool size, and out of those 7 new pills basiaclly every single one of them should have been considered a good/bad pill. Compare how many of the original neutral pills I marked in the picture compared to DLC pills. They completely fucked the pill pool. And the more "bad" neural pills they add to the pool the worse phd becomes since you're now twice as likely to get a neutral pill than you were previously.
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>all this afterbirth talk made me want to play it again
>try to bomb bullets because played a lot gungeon recently
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>>141048915
>try out nuclear throne after feeling burned out on gungeon
>try to roll through bullets as melting
>"oh, right"
>go fish
>try to roll through bullets
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>>141048823

They aren't good/bad because they don't have a bad version or a good version to go with it. ??? can't turn into anything with PhD. Power Pill doesn't have a negative version. Compare that to Amnesia, that turns into I can see forever. Or Bad Trip, that turns into Full Health.

And again, the majority of the pills added ARE GOOD NEUTRAL PILLS. There's only 1 or 2 objectively bad ones (??? being the most common). Bringing the total bad neutral pills up to 4 and the good neutral pills up to like 7. But sure retard, keep talking about how bad PhD is now, being ignorant the fact that the more bad/neutral bad pills they are, THE MORE VALUABLE THE PILL IDENTIFICATION ASPECT BECOMES.
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>>141048480
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>>141048480
literally when does isaac have unavoidable damage?
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>>141049551
I remember 1 clearly, caves 1-2 generates a small pathway with maggots on it, 1 charges at you the second you enter the room. If you do not have enough damage ups by then you take at least 1 damage. There is also one with replacing maggots with mullibooms.
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>>141049321
>hey aren't good/bad because they don't have a bad version or a good version to go with it

which was just fucking lazy development. ??? easily could have been the bad counterpart to a pill that reveals the map. Paralysis could have been the counterpart to a pill that temporarily increases movement speed. Pretty fly could be the good counterpart to a pill that spaws an enemy fly.

Basically you're just defending incredibly lazy poorly thought out development.
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>Beat all gungeon pasts
Time for bullet hell!
>Get there and die a few rooms in
It is not time for bullet hell!
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>>141049551
See >>141048095
I remember that it was in wet caves, one of those fast faggots next to the entrance had an invincible fly that spawned right on me.
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>>141048095
>>141049791
do you guys have an image of those rooms? any proof?
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>>141049791
That room is retarded, but it's by no means unavoidable.
If you're fast enough you can quickly get out of the narrow path and into the corner.
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>>141049826

>??? easily could have been the bad counterpart to a pill that reveals the map.

How is that the opposite of teleporting everywhere? Map reveal seems better as a new pair with Amnesia. Also want to point out that the Curse of the Maze effect DOES have a positive effect. It will unlock a door if the effect has the previously locked room behind you when you teleport. It's tedious to use it and RNG dependent, but it can be uses positively in niche situations if you're patient enough.

>Paralysis could have been the counterpart to a pill that temporarily increases movement speed.

Actually agreed with that one, but irrelevant to the conversation about Afterbirth's additions being good/bad.

>>141049839

It took me a Clone run with about 8 cig plays and a jar of lead skin to beat bullet hell my first time.
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>>141050092
Pretty sure I took one, but I don't want to dig through the folder because redditors will still suck on fatmund's feet.
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Well, shit.
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>>141050636
>jammed after 1 coin
STEAK
T
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A
K
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>>141049839
It took me a few tries to beat it. I wasn't familiar with the new enemies there and it through me off. Killed lich with Big Iron and Helix.
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>>141050803
Just do a single breaking run.
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>>141028904
I'd say so, having to double reload between each volley is a big enough downside.
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>beholster
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>>141052528
The primary fire is nice too. It is the ideal beholster killer.
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>>141052935
Having each bullet eat as much ammo as a grenade rubs me the wrong way.

On the plus side, taping the grenade form to a different gun eliminates the bullet aspect, preferably using a gun with good reload for that sweet sweet DPS. I think Megahand would be ideal, 3 Grenades then a Megahand blast, then a quick reload.
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I wish Gungeon were rebalanced so that lower tier guns had more ammo.

So better guns had low ammo, high DPS, worse guns have low DPS but a good ammo reserve.

The reliance on the starter pistol still feels a bit off to me. The amount of guns you can feasibly clear rooms with while not blowing through your ammo is rather small.
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>>141053205
Never bothered me. I like the guns that have alt secondary fires, It's a neat mechanic. Said that about the beholster killer because the primary takes down beholster's rockets like nothing.
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>>141053820
>gungeon
>balanced
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>>141054973
I'm just saying, letting me go wild with a 600 ammo T shirt cannon isn't going to break the game.
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>>141055517
T shirt already has a ton of ammo...Like a fuckton.
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>playing robot
>heart locket in shop
>buy it
>forget that you're robot
>get nothing
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
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>>141055782
Eh, once you get to the later levels, you could easily blow 40 of that 250 ammo on a single room, even with some good accuracy.
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>>141056152
You should be using the t-shirt cannon to 1-3 shot enemies into pits on every floor. It does ok damage but where it shines is the knockback. It's insanely ammo efficient.
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>>141038397
>>141038397
>>141038397


asking again.
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>>141056984
>cheat engine
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>>141056984
>>141057531
just go and cheat engine in everything

it's faster ;)
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>>141056302
The poxcannon is also real good for dealing with massed enemies, shoot one into a group of them, kill the poisoned one and watch everyone else get poisoned.
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>>141057709
MAWPC
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>>141057531

Yeah? Is there something else that's used? Saying again: I've already completed all the pasts, beat the dragun with robot and bullet, and beat the Lich. Now I'm looking to up luck/coolness a bit to break up the tediousness of hunting for guns/farming hegemony credits.
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>>141056984
there's a cheat engine script somewhere that guarantees you to get a drop after every room

i guess that's like having 100 coolness
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>>141057938

I saw the one that makes it so you get a chest drop after room clear, but not one for just regular drops. Every room might be a little much, though. I just want to have the effect of having used cigs 3 or 4 times. Almost all of the tables I've seen are the basic god mode, infinite ammo, infinite keys, etc.
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>>141057858
Maybe you can just download a 100% save file and use SAM to give yourself the achievements. That should save you a lot of trouble.
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>>141058180

How does that apply to anything I posted? There's not even an achievement for unlocking all of the guns...

Even still, the achievements I have left are shit like 100 chandelier kills, 100 minecart kills, etc.
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>beat the old king
>go down to the next floor
>beat a few rooms
>computer crashes
m-my progress is saved, r-right?
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>>141059172
NOPE
HOPE YOU LIKE BEATING HIM AGAIN

i can't even beat the motherfucking bloblord because he's a big step up from floor 1 bosses.
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>>141059559
He's definitely easier than ammoconda, come on.
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>>141059559
blobulord is easier than 2/3 floor 2 bosses though

(gorgun is even easier than the floor 1 bosses though, IMO)
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which of u IDEA GUYS have some IDEAS for a sick new roguelite
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>>141059559
I'm guessing you're still <10 hours in the game

Wait until you get further on, Blobulord is one of the least RNG bosses there is
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>>141059559
Blobulord is probably the easiest boss in the game. Floor 1 bosses are honestly harder.
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>>141059172
The unlock is saved and that's really the only important part. They said they're working on adding an actual Isaac save style thing though.

>>141059559
He is easier than the floor one bosses. The easiest boss in the entire game in fact.
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I haven't touched Isaac in like 6 months. What changed since? How's Gungeon?
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>>141060938
/boig/ died like 6 months ago
didn't touch the game since, I 1001%'d it before
fatmund is shilling out another half-assed expansion, that's all I guess
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>>141060531
>>141060090
>>141060004
Probably.

I had more problems getting to him than fighting him.
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>>141060938
It's a different game.
>>141061130
Blob is kind of a pushover and doesn't have a mastery round on the line. Oubliette's trash are definitely more of a challenge after the snoozefest that is chamber 1.
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>>141061130
Yeah, give it some time, you'll git gud eventually, man
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>>141059559
Here's a tip for Blobulord.

When he starts doing his split attack, head for the doorway. If he went to the centre grate you'll have to dodge over one blob which will then get stuck on the door and be no further threat to you. If he went to any other grate you shouldn't even have to dodge anything.
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>>141061130
Makes sense. The oubliette has a few fairly strong enemies. There is a good chance to fight poopulons and veteran shotgun kin.
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>>141062493
>mfw poopulon's pattern
This thing's more annoying than lead maiden. At least it goes down fast.
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>>141060938
Isaac: Nothing really, Afterbirth+ should come out later this year.

Gungeon: It's good, but if you would describe Isaac as hard it may not be for you. There is a lot less RNG and a lot more skill required to succeed. It's not like Isaac where broken runs and extra hearts are thrown at you like candy. Even with strong guns you can get fucked in Gungeon if you don't know what you're doing. This changes a little late game as there are some very powerful unlocks, but in order to unlock them you've almost certainly already gotten gud.
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>>141062762
When you have a Charm Horn in that Bullet Hell chamber with all the Blobulons having a Poopulon wreck his buddies is gret tho.
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>>141061130
the boss room is probably the easiest room in the oubliette tbqh senpai
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Anyone else git gud to the point where you feel like a genuine shitter if you get hit by anything ever before the forge?
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>TFW everyone forgot about Our Darker Purpose long before /lite/ existed
Rip.
Anyway,
>3 great shop items
>Floor is cleaned and won't get any more Tokens
I can't decide....
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>tfw i forget blanks regenerate so I barely use them during boss fights
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>>141065870
I'm still playing Gungeon for fun but I have every achievement. Really hoping some roguelites go on sale during a Steam Summer Sale or something. I'm looking at Convoy, Darkest Dungeons, Catacomb Kids, and Downwell. After Gungeon I'm looking at shmups now too.
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>>141065460
yes

i still get hit all the time. i just feel like a shitter all the time too
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>>141065460
Nothing wrong with being hit early on when you can beat the game anyway.
>>141066169
Crimzon Clover World Ignition is the only shmup worth getting on Steam at the moment. Then again, I live under a rock so there may have been decent releases after the fact. You'll most likely have to emulate a good bunch unfortunately.
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>>141066169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oZs3UlYuhI - does this count as a shmup?
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>>141065460
I restart my runs if I get hit by the chamber 1 boss or the chamber 2 boss. I have beaten 2/4 pasts and unlocked robot and bullet, I feel like I'm a shitter if I get hit before at least chamber 4.
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>>141066623
i got Jamestown from a humble bundle and had fun

i haven't played a ton of shmups though, maybe it's casual shit and i'm a bad player who should kill my are self
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>>141066623
It's been a while since I've played any but I really remember liking Karous, Ikaruga, and Mars Matrix. Is Crimzon Clover anything like those?
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>>141066956
Not as casual as Sine Mora, thankfully. CCWI should be fun for you if you enjoyed any other shmup in the past though. Has wide difficulty range to suit just about everybody.
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>>141050803
How do I display that left hud?
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>>141067430
Watch some gameplay and be the judge, though it's quite a ways different from ones you mentioned.
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>>141068950
Can't watch video right now because work. Different in what way? Harder? Easier? Better/worse patterns? All my shmup experience comes from my Dreamcast days.
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>>141068843
I think it's a mod.
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>>141065460
The only game getting hit in hurts my pride more than Gungeon is Spelunky.

Getting hit in Gungeon is heart breaking, getting hit in Spelunky is soul crushing.
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>>141059667
>(gorgun is even easier than the floor 1 bosses though, IMO)
that touhou attack is literally fucker
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>>141059667
>gorgun
>easier than floor 1 bosses
maybe easier than bullet king.

definitely harder than gull or twins
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>low on good guns/ammo
>put two shit guns in the muncher
>get a derringer
this has happened so many times
I should just stop using the muncher hoping for a good gun
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>>141069780
This.
Her scream attack is actually pretty dangerous, but she's still the easiest 2nd floor boss.
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>>141068843
It's called Missing HUD.
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>Arriving at the Forge
>Muh Gungeon Imba
>Muh RNG
>Muh no keys
>Muh no guns
>Muh peashooters

NO GODS, NO MASTERS.
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>>141069176
As easy as you want (early on its release I recall seeing like 20% of players having the Novice 1cc achievement, which is impressive since >Steam), to as hard as you want (only two Western players I recall having cleared Unlimited). The developer is a shmup superplayer himself so he in my opinion made great design choices.

Boss patterns are all quite memorable, and offer an appropriate amount of difficulty based on the mode that is being played.
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>>141070676
NO KEYS, MARINE ONLY, FINAL HELL

confound these dover boys, they drive me to meme.
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>>141071426
Ok, you have me interested. One last question though, is it lolicon autist shit?
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>>141072065
Nope. I like 2hu as much as the next guy but this game offers nothing of the sort. Just shitloads of explosions and stars.
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I did it /lite/
I fucking did it.
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>>141072383
Oh, did I also mention it has a good soundtrack? Because it does.

I'll stop gushing about the game though since this isn't a shmup general. Anybody find any hidden synergies of interest in gungeon? It deserves some discussion, as RNG as it is and a chore to drop everything and pick it back up check for them.
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>>141071489
>>141070676
LEAD GOD TWICE IN A ROW.

NO CLONES, NO BOSS RUSH.
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>>141069606
Getting hit in Spelunky often means the end of the run.
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does bullet hell have shops or chests? I found the boss room but I dont really have any ammo left to kill whatever boss is behind this door
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>>141073137
damn, nice
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>>141073924
afaik no. bullet hell has a guaranteed devil muncher and nothing else.
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>>141073924
Secret room always has red muncher. Could get a carry gun from it. Noticed you can also get 2 guns sometimes.
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>>141074059
I thought that only dropped Gungeoneer Ashes or whatever that gun is?
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>>141075048
Got it the first time. Different ones after that.
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>>141075048
Gunslinger Ashes. It's the phylactery of the lich. I don't know though tbqh.
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my second attempt at bullet hell

but holy fucking shit, his third form had one pixel of health left as i had to reload. died switching weapons and i am quite frustrated. literally one shot left
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Does buying shit from the goblin and jellyfish put it on the drop list for the entire dungeon or just their shop?
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>>141065870
Hard mode in this game is weirdly imbalanced.
>Have to give up 3 Lesson slots just to enable it
>Enemy buffs are really nice and add a real pressure to the normal fights
>Boss Fights range from mildly more annoying to fucking insane, especially act bosses
>Ball Machine in Goneril's fight shits out Spike balls instead of normal balls
>Shits out 2 on death too, so you're stuck with 2 extra really annoying projectiles
>Regans' fight features an entire 4th copy of herself to shit wind magic at you
8 flavors of fucked up, I must say.
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>>141076571
Entire gungeon and also their shop.
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>>141072692
congratulations, now get a golden nuke launcher.
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>Polaris
>Comm4nd0
>Duct Tape
>doesn't fire rockets at all ever no matter what
>essentially just ate up the Duct Tape and Comm4nd0 and got nothing in return

Good.
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>>141069936
Twins is the easiest floor one boss, though.
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is this a rogue-lite? http://flinthook.com/
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>>141081518
But that's subjective.
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>>141073924
what determines ammo drop rates? sometimes it feels like im getting one every other room, other times i go entire floors without seeing one
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>>141083624
Coolness.
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>>141083624
SMOKE
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>>141083624
I suspect using guns that require ammo may affect it, but this is just a theory. I know that ammo drops are separate from regular room drops. This means you can get two ammo drops in a room.
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>>141082771
>http://flinthook.com/
>More info coming soon!

Sort of hard to tell.
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>>141068950
Looks good. Wishlist'd.
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After going through it a few times, I feel like the Abbey/Old King aren't as hard as a lot of people make them out to be. The Oubliette feels tougher, since it has more annoying enemies and trap rooms, and you're already behind a bit item-wise when you go in thanks to the two key entry cost.

You're much better prepared when you enter the Abbey, the rooms are easier, and half of the boss's attacks are variations of Old King's attacks, so you're already somewhat fairly familiar with them.
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>>141088715
Meant to say variations of Bullet King's attacks.
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Does anyone know what's causing my crossbow to 1 shot the blue blobs on chamber 4? It's been doing crazy damage since floor 3.
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>>141088715
I came to the same conclusion yesterday. When I started I would have agreed with the general consensus about the abbey. Last night I took him out with H4MMER and Gun Friendship. It wasn't even that bad.
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>>141089790
Muscle relaxant, it's a huge damage up for certain weapons
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>>141089790
Muscle Relaxant synergies with crossbow and several other guns.
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I died in the Pilot's past AGAIN
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>>141089790
>>141089968
>>141090238
Oh, good to know. I wish the game was a little more transparent on things like that.

Blew the run hard though, popped my elder blank with the demon head out. Bouncy and Ghost bullets caused my game to lag so hard I couldn't dodge.
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>>141091136
When you pick up an item that has a synergy with something a blue arrow will appear above your head. Beyond that, it's kind of on you to figure out how it works.
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What did she mean by this /lite/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frVd9AyqNzk
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Just beat my first past, Marine's.
The dialogue froze after I beat the boss though, had to return to the breach. VERY unsatisfying.
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>>141091135
Pilot's past took me about 4 tries. Focus on one side of drones when they come out. And continue to abuse dodge rolls.
Definitely the hardest past. Or rather the only difficult past.
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If remaining unhit is so important to have a good run in Gungeon why not just have everything be a one hit kill?
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Where did you learn those moves?

..another time.
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>>141069780
>>141070140
Her scream attack is totally not dangerous.

There are points where you can legitimately stand still because she decides to not rotate the pattern at all. It is only dangerous if you are so far away from her that the delayed rotating orbs catch you.
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Do munchers always give a gun of the rank of the higher gun fed in or is it random of the two?


Thinking of feeding my Black Hole Gun, won't you come? into one.
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>>141091347
Then let's figure out the synergy here, I just picked up the melted rock and the blue arrow showed up.
Hopefully not with the ruby bracelet.


>>141092865
Doesn't help that the ship feels slower than any of the Gungeoneers. Last time I died with the Absolution one shot away from death, too.
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>>141092881
Because remaining un-hit is nowhere near as important for trash mobs as it is for bosses.

Besides the fact that having a no-hit clear is something you progress to from having just a normal clear.
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>>141095415
Mine Cutter, if I were to guess.
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>>141088715
I think the idea is that entering the abbey in the first place is much harder than the actual abbey.

The Abbey is like a world of money for people who successfully carry that old crest all the way from the Oubliette.

I still think it was really cool that I stumbled upon the Abbey without any prior knowledge to the place.
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So is the PS4 version much harder than the PC version of EtG?
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>>141095786
You guessed right, it showed up the arrow when dropping and picking it up and seems to be shooting much faster.
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>>141095415
melted rock + mine cutter. the blue arrow stuff is hardcoded synergies ofc. there are items that naturally work well together also.
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>>141096004
PS4 patches take longer to come out... that's about the only difference in difficulty.
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>>141095415
Also, which of these guns I should tape up. Munched up the laser rifle and origuni and got a bundle of wands, in the mean time.
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is there some other mechanic to those blob guys who chase you around and then explode into lines of bullets?

It feels like every other room on bullet hell throws like 3 of them at you per room

how do you ever make it to the boss with more than your starting pistol
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>>141096297
i dont know anything about tape but bundle of wants + mine cutter could be good
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>>141096672
I'm keeping the bundle of wands as is for transmuting shit in the next floor, the Forge.
I'm thinking Mine Cutter + Glacier as a boss killer, the freezing effect helps with not getting hit.
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>>141096004
Not really, it's just that a keyboard and mouse make the game easier than using a controller. With a controller, you lose the benefit of the aiming reticle, you have less control over aiming due, and require more hand-eye coordination due to not having use of your full hand to point at something on screen as opposed to using your thumb to sort of gauge direction.

I honestly don't think the game was designed to be played with a controller, but they just added controller support as an after thought and it worked well enough as to not make the game unplayable.
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>>141096004
I disagree 100% with this anon >>141097060
I've been playing on Steam with an xbox one controller. No problems and I've done literally everything in the game. All achievements and lead god twice.
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>>141097060
I agree with you. The PS4 version just feels more difficult, because it forces you to use a controller. Having played the game with both a controller and a keyboard/mouse, I have to say it's much easier with the latter. If you watch lets plays of the game, it looks like the players are having an easier time with keyboard/mouse, but complain about using a controller. Everybody is different. Some people do find the controller okay.
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>>141098062
Interesting that you mention let's plays. NL started with kb+m and switched to controller. People complained that controller made it too easy for him so lately he has been using controller with no aim assist.
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>tfw shouldn't be scared of no ghosts
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The PS4 version doesn't really let you customize your controller setup other than just giving you two recommended choices. I hate the fact that dodge is locked to being a trigger button.
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>>141095394
dont
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>>141099072
OH TAKE THESE STORMS AWAY, START A BRAND NEW STORY
I'LL MAKE IT THROUGH EACH DAY, SINGIN DEATH OR GLORY,
LORD IS JAMMING ME, I WON'T LET IT BRING ME DOOOOOWN
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>>141099442
We're jammin' (jammin', jammin', jammin')
And we're jammin' in the name of the Lord;
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TIME FOR SOME GUNGEON
TIME FOR SOME BLOGGING
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>>141102079
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Fuck me.
I carried the fucking crest all the way to the chamber before the shrine but then thought i'd try my luck at the King's challenge and lost it.
I even killed the bullet king on the first floor with just my rogue special without even taking damage.
I really thought this time I was gonna get the Old king.
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>>141099999
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>>141102273
Very poor performance on my part, but there may be substances involved. Still, this isn't the worst way to leave the first chamber.
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>>141103379
That GET doesn't even exist on /vg/
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>>141049551
If you can't kill them fast enough, Daddy Longlegs, Triachnid, Mama Gurdy, Conquest, and Isaac during stage two have RNG-based attacks that can't be avoided.

Also, a ton of rooms in the Guardian challenge. Getting Red Mom pretty much ends your run.
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>>141103805
> Daddy Longlegs, Triachnid, Mama Gurdy, Conquest, and Isaac during stage two have RNG-based attacks that can't be avoided.

False, Mama Gurdy is the only one of these I'm not sure how to avoid. It may be avoidable too.

>Also, a ton of rooms in the Guardian challenge.

This challenge was fun, and fairly easy.

>Getting Red Mom pretty much ends your run.

Only if you're complete shit. Red Mom is the easiest one tbqh: >>141049415
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>>141097060
>>Not really, it's just that a keyboard and mouse make the game easier than using a controller. With a controller, you lose the benefit of the aiming reticle, you have less control over aiming due, and require more hand-eye coordination due to not having use of your full hand to point at something on screen as opposed to using your thumb to sort of gauge direction.
>
>I honestly don't think the game was designed to be played with a controller, but they just added controller support as an after thought and it worked well enough as to not make the game unplayable.

but with a controller you can dodge in 352 more directions
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>>141103483
Not familiar with unity ring but I bought it anyway, not a bad chamber 2. Getting another drink now.
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>>141104781
Unity seems godly if you're going to all 3 secret levels.

That would give you at least 10 guns by the Lich.

If you were playing a Cursed Shrine run you could probably buy every gun you saw too, which would mean you'd have even more.
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Man i love getting hit on the 3rd boss making 25 minutes of progress towards lead god meaningless
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>>141104481
>False, Mama Gurdy is the only one of these I'm not sure how to avoid. It may be avoidable too.
I'd love to know how you're supposed to dodge those, then.

>Red Mom is the easiest one
Maybe outside The Guardian. The feet can't be avoided, and they leave so fast you can barely do any damage to them before they stomp again. Unless you have the Bible you're fucked.
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>>141104781
Gunslinger king cucked me with the nail gun and I nearly died. Flawlessed cannonbalrog and my items are good but the weatherman is saying the forecast % of death in the hollow is at at all time high.
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>>141106408
> The feet can't be avoided

This is why she is so easy, precisely because they can be avoided and it is almost the only attack she does. Dodge shoot patience, nothing more to it.
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>>141106490
>almost died

you know you're allowed to switch weapons

it just makes you fail the challenge
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>>141105850
You can always do it through boss rush.
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>>141107032

I still gotta do the last shortcut and not getting hit by wall monger or bullet priest is nigh impossible for me
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>>141106903
Do you lack basic reading comprehension?

He specifically points out that he's speaking in terms of the Guardian challenge.
>Dodge shoot patience
The little fucker doesn't dodge and there isn't shit you can do to stop him from taking repeated damage other than entering the room with an instant kill or invuln item.
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Because there's no random option.

1-4: Marine, Pilot, Convict, Hunter
5-8: Same, but cursed
9: Bullet
0: Robot
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>>141108172
>no blessing options
>no boss rush options
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>>141106903
>precisely because they can be avoided
>Dodge shoot patience, nothing more to it
It sounds like you haven't played the challenge when you're talking about it like this.

Dodging is impossible in the challenge, since you aren't in control of where the punching bag/heart is walking, so you have to body-block bullets and enemies to avoid getting hit. This means some previously easy to dodge attacks become impossible to avoid (monstro's jump, leapers, skulls, hands).

Additionally, you can't shoot any tears since you're blindfolded, so you can only do damage by hugging enemies with Spear of Destiny, which has a broken hitbox.
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>>141108273
Nah, >>141107832 is right. I dun goofed and only skimmed your post. Didn't realize we were talking about guardian challenge red mom, just red mom in general. My bad. You're right, red mom is a problem during that challenge.
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>>141106408
So which is that unavoidable attack Mama Gurdy supposedly has
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>>141105850
Holy shit you just killed that anime.
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>>141106490
Last blog.

Barely survived the Hollow due to excruciatingly poor play. High Priest dropped a heart container which was probably a large factor in me winning this run.

>>141106976
Failure is not an option.
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>>141108741
The spikes, unless there's a way to avoid them I don't know about.
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the dorito chip shrine is so good!
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who is best otp and why is it fish and chips?
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>>141109791
it's futa hunter impregnating convict
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>>141109258
Just stand stil. Mama Gurdy clenches up when it is going to do that attack, and the spikes never show up directly under you.
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>>141110148
THE KNOT
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>>141110148
did they deliver?
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>>141110268
>and the spikes never show up directly under you
That's wrong, though. The chance of them hitting you is lower since you're not walking into anything/crossing multiple tiles, but they can still spawn under you.
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What tags does steam recommend for you /lite/?
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>>141111856
Gee, what a surprise.
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>>141111856
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>>141113570
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>>141111856
this recommendations shit is so garbage

it just fills my list with whatever ive been playing most recently

they never account for the 100 hours i spent in trackmania or the 300 hours i spent in csgo

like shitbirds, how hard would it be to create an algorithims to recommend games i ACTUALLY LIKE

JUST HAVING PIXEL GRAPHICS
IS NOT
AN INDICATOR
THAT I WOULD LIKE IT

LIKE HOLY SHIT

200 hours in ISAAC

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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is the Poxcannon any good? I have yet to see it or see anyone even talk about it here.
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>>141116443
It's pretty fucking fantastic.

Like a T-Shirt Cannon but with a really good poison, that causes enemies hit to explode into poison creep once killed.
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>>141116443
Really good. Only drawback is that it's slow on the reload.
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This is one of my least favorite rooms in the game. You walk in and are immediately cornerned by a bunch of those blue blob things unless you run into the center where you will have to dodge hammer flames.

>>141114179
>Rogue-lite
I didn't even know it was a tag, no one else here has it.

>>141116168
>>141111856
Hey two people don't even have rogue-like.
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>Get down to the oubliette once again
>Shop and another room are locked
>No key drops
>Crest room is nowhere to be seen
>Break the shop lock, last chance
>The door opens
>The crest room is behind another fucking locked door
>Everything is dead and I have no keys
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>>141117380
>>Hey two people don't even have rogue-like.

i haven't enjoyed video games for a few years, gungeon is the first single player game since the binding of issac that ive enjoyed
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If anyone does a Lich run tonight can you tell me what happens if you try to shoot yourself and not him in the end

>>141117515
Yeah, when it's behind a locked door I don't usually even unlock it. I just continue on as if it is a normal run and I didn't get a chance to try for the abbey. Of course, it's a lot less frustrating if you've already taken down the old king and are just doing it for fun.
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>>141117380
Well here's what it gave when I clicked on it.

Most of them say "Rogue-like" in the tags anyways.
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>>141117529
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>>141108269
I think 5-8 can be revised to cursed or blessed of choice. I'm not a big fan of boss rush until they add in optional bosses.
>>141118418
Doesn't work
So here's some stuff I fucked around with tonight, a Marine default gun cursed run. Ran around in Bullet Hell stacking Metronome and results are as expected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f2CVx8SqXQ&feature=youtu.be
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>>141111856
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>>141118903
Holy shit your damage is insane. How long was that metronome streak?
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>>141119152
I figured it would cap out at blue (the original pickup symbol), but kept losing the chain because I'm bad. Good thing Air Strike is one of the best active items.

Lich really needs a proper blank/bullet-deleting explosive immunity shield like a true TLB.
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>>141119354
Really? I usually skip it. I haven't played around much with air strike, big boy, or similar items. What's so good about it?

I agree. I really hope they make a dlc or update where you get to go to Kaliber's plane and fight her. It's sort of eluded to through the story that she is behind everything. Killing a god seems like a good final boss.
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>>141119898
Damage, relatively fast recharge (if you use actual guns, anyway), blank substitute. No opinions about Big Boy because I'm in a situation where I can't use it whenever I find it (see screenshot).

I think it's just a design flaw, considering Lich does end an attack immediately if blanked. Wouldn't be surprised if it got patched.
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>no long arms or gamma guts on the daily
Have fun everyone, I am looping now, and planning to get crown of blood. Cya in the top 50!
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>>141118418
It won't let you try shoot yourself, the same thing happens as when you try not shoot yourself when doing a normal, non bullet hell victory, you can't "charge" the gun.
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What a mess. At least I got like 100+ kills with that alone. Gun warrant is overpowered, especially with an auto crossbow and bolt marrow. crown of blood is way too overpowered for dailies
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This ammoconda fight makes me want to scream at NL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfTGES3Ie7I
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>>141121451
Watching NL play EtG in general makes me want to scream at him. The one and only EtG video I watched (which was one of his latest) he was using the crossbow on regular chamber 1 enemies.
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>>141122374
That's nothing, skip to his ammoconda fight in that video if you didn't already see it.
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>finally get 4 master rounds
>get hit 5 seconds after starting dragun fight
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>>141122647
I watched it. I just closed the video afterwards, watching people do stupid things in any of the few games I am actually good at is so frustrating.
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>>141123004
hah I'd never seen that image, love it. that's rough though, you'll get it eventually anon.
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A-Am I good yet?
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>>141123004
It is a lot less frustrating then
>get's 4 master rounds
>get's hit on Draguns last phase due to carelessness
I wanted to die then. I will never do that good again.
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>>141124126
>Get nicked by chamber 1 boss
>Get 4 master rounds

I had to stop myself from playing for the night after that.
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>>141126273
That's what happened to me the first time I came close to getting it. Since then it's gotten a lot easier somehow.
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>60 hours in
>have never gotten a master round past the third floor
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>>141129128
4th chamber master rounds are by far the hardest.
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anyone has strategies for "the keeper"? All I have left is this abomination.
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>>141129128
No real shame there, you get a lot more practice on the earlier bosses.

I now consistently get the master rounds on chamber 3 and 4, but I've been taking easily avoided damage in the first and second boss fights.
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>>141129936
Prioritize spending bombs on pots to try to get Swallowed Penny. Do the Cathedral route first, Wooden Nickle makes him much better.
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>>141130539
thanks!
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>>141129936
Don't pick up health ups until you've fought the boss. If there is a 1 heart devil deal you can take it and backtrack to get back to 2 hearts. Blood donation machines are "free to play" so getting the chance to leave a heart behind is quite high. Also shop items are usually synergistic with keeper so blowing up the donation machine and breaking the run is good practice.
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>>141131089
Saving a panic rune or card is essential. Also save sub par cards like justice and wheel of fortune to the hush fight. Blowing up the machine for coins or getting 1 coin from justice can be really helpful.
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>>141131089
>>141131516
thanks dude!
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>>141129936
Play a good game or use cheat engine.
Or if you hate fun, restart until you get swallowed penny on floor 1 by breaking pots.
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I'm gonna separate the claws from the Scorpion sprite and rig them so that they have dynamic movement. The goal is to make two separate motions for shooting the acid spray, and a jab for melee strikes (as opposed to contact damage). I also made them blue for the sake of visibility in editing since my screen is dark, but I rather like this color.

FHÖ'FAASHYN Ä "THREE" btw
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>>141134632
>TH'I "GET"
>Ä'HYA "ONE"
th've'kh
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>>141134729
>>141134632
I'm glad you're still around Get Bandit. This place wouldn't be the same without you.
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Say there was dlc for gungeon what would you like to see?
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>>141135023
I am glad to be of service. Have a bandit.
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>>141135125
kaliber, that god the gundead worship, lot of lore there.
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>>141135125
More guns.
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>>141135125
Stat tracking
Variable curse level from the statue
More detail for what items actually do
Larger variety of rooms
More side paths past chamber 2
More characters, or different load outs for B skins
Unfinished gun doing something when brought to the smith
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>>141135125
Audio cue for an active item being fully-charged.
Better audio cue for taking damage.
The Old Crest room never being locked.
Another boss for the third floor to even it out.
Updated Ammonomicon with better information.
Rewards for flawlessing Blobulon and Old King.
The ability to slide over and flip tables by dodge-rolling into them.
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>>141135135
No Get Anon, YOU have a Bandit!
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>>141136043
I will gladly observe this happy bandit.
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>>141121451
>>141122374
I fucking hate his gameplay
>Is in the tutorial looking for a secret room
>There's a wall with cracks in it and a room outside it that indicates there's a secret room there
>"WHERE'S THE SECRET ROOM??LOL"
>Walks right fucking past it
>"OH WELL LOL"
>15 episodes later he finally understands how secret rooms work
>He doesn't go back to get the secret room

>Episode fucking 40 and he hasn't even bothered trying to bring the bullet pieces to the blacksmith
>The only times he wins is from EXTREME RNG and he says he feels proud for winning

God fucking damn it man, it hurts because I love to listen to him ramble, but fucking Christ he's shit at Enter The Gungeon
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Coolness increases fused chests? I abused cigarettes for permanent lead potion and now 6+ chests have been with a fuse..? Literally 0 normal chests since floor 1.
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>>141136363
Come my minions! Heed your master!
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>>141137042
>Death by a million dildos
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>>141049791
It used to be that if you don't move the maggots will not charge at you.

>>141049551
A lot of the enemies that rise from the ground used to do that right on top of you or in front of where you're running which was the fucking worst
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>be yv
>be a nigger
>shit, you're a nigger
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>necrodancer
>deep blues with obsidian longsword and 3.5 multiplier
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>>141144932
>All Zones run
>Obsidian Rapier
>Karate Gi
>Sunglasses
>Boots of Pain
>Ring of Courage
>Risk Charm with low health
>There's an enemy standing exactly two tiles away from you
You have not known joy
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>>141145282
Is Obsidian Rapier good?
I asked my buddy and he said Obsidian Longsword was better.
I'm new to the game, don't bully.
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>>141145842
Rapier does base 2 damage and lunges you forward if a target is 2 tiles away.
Longsword does base 1 damage but damages both tiles in front of you in a line.

Depends on your playstyle really. I prefer to get up into the enemy and keep myself constantly moving while doing so, the Rapier and its variants are among my favorite with Cat o' Nine Tails being a close second.
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>cultist's past is trying to kill the other player

wow
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>>141145842
Rapiers are generally the best weapons in the game. Lunge attacks double your damage, and in all zones mode, you can have a maximum multipier of x3. So, an Obsidian Rapier at its base deals 1x2 damage, 2x2 with Courage, 3x2 with Sunglasses, and so on with proper gear. Boots of Pain, however, will always deal 3 damage to enemies that are 2 tiles away from you -- the same range as a Rapier -- regardless of whether you move to that space willingly or not. You can become instant death for Wind Spell enemies, and become untouchable on ice.

>My time has come, and so have I
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>>141147924
(base*3)*2, w/e
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>>141147924
Alright, thanks.
Any tips on actually hitting the beats?
I can keep it up for a very long time, but eventually I just miss it and when I do it all falls apart.
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>>141148073
Don't go off of the visual indicator. Listen to the music and go off of the beat, and it'll come naturally. Also, try to stay focused and in control -- skipped beats are the bane of an Aria run.
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>>141148073
Just keep your cool.

Missing beats will lead to more missed beats because your timing gets thrown off, the best thing you can do is peek at the HUD to find the beat again if you have that enabled.
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>>141148201
>>141148241
I'll keep that in mind, any more tips besides git gud?
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>dodgeroll is blocked by tables
really
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>>141148383
Pick up pickaxes whenever they appear in stores, and look out for square formations of hard rock. You can also find secret shops hidden inside of already-cracked walls, that may or may not have a double secret shop hidden behind it. Beyond that, just experiment with items. You can discover some of the best item synergies if you just take note of what certain things do, and see what happens when you use them in tandem with other things.

Which is to say, Rogue rules. Follow them for pretty much any game that applies to this thread.
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>>141149318
Oh, and 3 damage is enough to destroy crates.
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>>141149318
Thank you.
>tfw you thought blood weapons break/hurt you when you get 10 kills with them
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>>141135762
There is a visual cue. I'm not sure how to describe it so for lack of a better word a "super saiyan" wind blast of force circles you for a fraction of a second.
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I gots an idea for a character.

Lich.
Starts with 10 Curse and the Sixth Chamber (AKA, Jams it in).
Gets Gunslingers Ashes as a secondary.
Starter pistol sends out 3 bullets in a row which send bullets out to the left and right as they fly (Revolvenent style)

Floats down to bullet hell.
Bullet Hell boss is all 4 Gungeoneers on the first floor. (Act like cultists but with heavier weaponry)

Robot on the second floor (a lot of area denial)

On the third floor, the Lord of the Jammed possesses Bullet to make him an avatar of Kalibur.
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>get cucked by fish touhou attack just at the end
welp, it was a bad run anyway
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post yfw you get a gun
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>Complete the room without dodge rolling.
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>>141150658
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>>141150663
wowies

Also, how does the RNG work on money?

Sometimes I get like 50ish on first floor, sometimes i approach 70. Granted, this is all before boss so chances some money gets to him sometimes?
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>>141146545
I don't like rapiers but I'm also bad at necromancer. Haven't made it past melody. Spears, long, and broadswords are all good. Rapier movement threw me off too much. I had a vamp bow or gun once that shit is legit.
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>>141150658

>Regular okay gun
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>>141148383
Crates and barrels can be pushed down holes and will go to the next floor. Traps can break them too.
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>>141150658
>>141151242

>Kills minor enemies in one hit gun
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>>141150524
This would be pretty cool. I've wanted to play with high curse and sixth chamber but it hasn't shown up when I'm cursed.
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>>141151426
Sixth chamber isn't actually that good.
Once I had like 9/10 curse with it and I barely noticed a difference.
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>>141150658
>>141151242
>>141151381

>Bee Hive
>>
>open a chest
>has key AND table tech money
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>>141151489
This, Ballot seems to be quite effective though.
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>>141151838
Brown chests are the only ones I've seen so this
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>>141152252
Brown chests are underrated desu. I try to go for the sling or Cog when I can.
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>>141152558
Backpack and ammo belt may be brown tier as well
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>>141152558
I was surprised when I saw the loot pools actually.

The C pool for guns has some pretty swish stuff. Scrambler, Membrane, Shade's Revolver, Bundle of Wands, Crestfaller, Glacier, Anvillain, Poxcannon, Mahoguny.

These are all pretty quality guns in the C pool, and the rest aren't all trash either.
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>>141153734
Also D for passives has Itchy Trigger Finger (Not great, but a DPS increase is always welcome), Meatbun (actually godly), Ammo Synthesiser, Scope, Cigarettes, Cog and Dog, while also having Potion of Gun Friendship and Double Vision which are actually pretty top tier actives.
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>>141153734
Membrane, Glacier, Witch Pistol, Skull Splitter, Buzz kill, Camera, Bait Launcher, and the list goes on. C tier has really good stuff in it.
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>>141153940
>meatbun
>actually godly
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>>141154135
It's really good if you aren't shit.
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>>141154135
It gives a big damage increase until you next take a hit.

Pop it before a boss and don't get hit next floor and you get two easy master rounds at least.
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>>141154230
>>141154341
Isn't meatbun the thing that heals you for 2 hearts?
I assumed it was.
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>>141155224
It is a single use heal but also a damage buff that lasts until you get hit.
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>>141155454
Oh. I had no idea that was the case, the pick-up didn't tell me.
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>>141155721
I still wouldn't buy it from the shop unless I had a bunch of extra money. I don't think it's godly like that other anon said, but it's far from bad.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9yWU3EWEMo
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>>141157050
I don't know what this is, but I like it.
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>>141145842
If you're having a lot of trouble, you can try playing as the bard. He is necrodancer's ez mode character and will give you bad habits, but he is also an opportunity to safely learn enemy patterns.
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>these fucking enemies
I couldn't be madder

>>141160370
Currently I'm doing that, learning enemy patterns.
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>>141160901
God this game is ugly.
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>>141160901
I can still hear their little bouncing noises.
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Were you wondering why Aria finds all these apples despite having no health?
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>>141162853
You're not even playing as Aria.
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>>141163002
It still shows a trick that you can apply to Aria.
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Shadow Bullets sound good but how often does it happen?
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>>141165746
They're real good, better with guns that have a high rate of fire.
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>>141162561
The game looks good but that level in particular is ugly. It has a strange design to it as well when compared to the other stages.
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Update #99 when
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>>141049551
Mama gurdy's spikes, double adversary brimstone, and one room in the womb with brimstone guys on both walls. These are the only examples I can think of and I'm not entirely convinced they're unavoidable either. People complaining about unavoidable damage is Isaac are just shitters making excuses for the most part.
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>>141150450
that's the cue for charged WEAPONS

he means a visual cue for items like double vision
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>>141170618
Sometime within the next 30 years.

Hopefully.
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Holy shit, any ammolets and owl work together!
S Y N E R G Y
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>>141174210
yeah
if you get gold ammolet, owl literally fucking disintegrates everything
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>>141173869
how is your coolness so high?
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>>141174860
See >>140920556
Might have been patched already.
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>>141175238
yeah it's patched on PC, the cooldown reduction is supposed to cap at 50% now
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>>141175619
Not him, but I got an elder blank to have no cooldown without cheating on the latest patch.
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>>141174210
They work with table tech blanks too, it's breddy gud.
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>>141175619
I've heard it's the drop rate cap that was reduced to 50% not the active cooldown.
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Apparently ammo drops in Gungeon weren't working as the devs intended and will be fixed next patch.
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Does every gun except the starting guns reveal secret rooms?
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>>141176954
Pretty sure that Gunther doesn't, because it got infinite ammo as well.
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>>141176954
Some people say mega douser doesn't but I haven't confirmed this myself. Gunther doesn't for sure.
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>>141176772
More ammo or less?
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Also, can someone give me an example of a gun revealing a secret room? I haven't ever done it before.
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>>141176772
source?
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>>141177223
It's more complicated than "more or less"

Here is a conversation fromreddit

Dev:
>The drop rate of ammo does not depend on whether or not you're using the starter gun (unless you ONLY have infinite ammo guns, in which case the ammo drop rate will be 0). That said, you shouldn't use your starting gun for half the game unless you're getting some really atrocious drops... You're guaranteed access to a weapon for each floor, and ammo drop's are not that rare!

User
>I've had ammo drop as the Marine before picking up any guns, so ammo drop rate does not appear to be zero with only infinite guns.

Dev
>Fair enough... that's because there are two different drop systems that trigger on room clears. The normal room clear rewards (which are affected by Coolness as people have discussed on this subreddit) can still drop ammo crates (thought they're more often hearts, money or chests). But there is a second system which can only drop ammo, and that percentage drops to zero if you only have infinite ammo guns. (This is also why you can, on rare occasions, get two ammo drops from the same room clear)

>Another user
>I've done a bunch of experiments while reading the logfile, and it seems that the drop rate is set to zero not when you only have infinite ammo guns, but instead when you are holding one when the check is made. I've already submitted a bug report on this. It explains why ammo drops are so rare for many people: if you clear a room with a starting weapon, or even use it just to finish off the last few enemies, the ammo drop rate will be set to zero for that room even if you have other weapons that do need ammo. The only ammo drops you get then are from the random loot, and those really are rare.

Dev
>Wow... yes, you are correct, that is totally what is happening. This explains so much! Really sorry about this guys, we're fixing it and this will be in our next patch. In the mean time, use your guns and see if your drop rate improves!
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>>141177721
so basically switch to real gun to kil the last enemy in each room for maximum ammoscumming
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>>141177936
Until they fix it in the next patch, yes that does seem like the optimal strat.
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>>141177270
It doesn't reveal it entirely, only creates a very visible crack in the wall which you will have to use a blank to fully open.
>>141177936
Also makes sense why you get totally boned late game when stuck with just the default weapon praying for ammo drops.
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>>141177270
Sure, go through the tutorial. There is a room in there that already has a cracked wall. Blank it.
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Ahh shit, died to Pilot's past.
At least I'm gitting gud enough to get to the pasts.
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>>141050636
How the fuck?
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>>141179182
>being this new
have you even unlocked maggy yet?
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>>141179362
Yeh, only character I haven't unlocked is Lilith. Just wondering how you manage to get such an orgy of pickups in Greed Mode.
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>>141179793
>he doesn't know about breaking runs
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>>141180047
No I don't. Mind explaining?
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>>141179793
The D20 rerolls items and the rerolled items can be batteries/chests, only pick them up and repeat - congrats, you got infinite pickups!
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>>141178678
Oh, that is what it looks like after you shoot it? I know what it looks like then, I already defeated blockner.
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>check for a mimic after completing challenge room
>die and get saved by the pig
>kill that mimic
>get another mimic as a reward
Such is a live in the gungeon.
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Downwell is 50% off, I've heard it's a short but fun roguelite? Can anyone confirm?

>>141180093
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/201893/how-do-i-break-my-game
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>>141180751
And on that note, is hotline miami worth 2.49 USD?
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>trying to unlock steroids B-skin
>Having a good run after a bunch of shitty ones with shitty drop
>reach crystal boss
>it's at the end of a long narrow corridor with web floor

My salt knows no bounds
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>>141180751
>>141180921
>downwell
yes, it's great
>hotline miami
yes, it's even greater
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>>141180751
Definitely worth it. Even more so with 50% off.
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>post feels when you fuck up a Master Round at the very end
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>>141181213
>>141181280
Thanks senpai, I'm looking forward to these. It seems it is part of a Devolver Digital sale. Gungeon is on sale too but I already have it.
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>run ends because of mimic and i had shitty weapons
>less than half a minute into next run, another mimic
wow
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>>141182284
you know you can cheese them by not fighting them in their room right?
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>>141182284
You can cheese mimics if you have to by shooting them from another room.
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>>141182808
>>141182845
Oh.

Well, I had the luck of getting the ant gun and hot lead

>hot lead sets the ant gun liquid on fire
this is so fucking good
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>>141182808
>>141182845
That's risky because if a mimic dies in other room than you, rat appears almost immediately.
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>>141183224
So?
You can just scare him away.
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>>141183392
Thankfully.
Now, if there's that secret room with 3 mimics.
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>>141183147
If you set yourself on fire make sure to roll.
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>mfw I almost kill Blokner on first try
either good run or he's a joke
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>>141184821
he's a joke
easiest boss in the game
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>>141184906
>easiest boss in game
>not the Lich

stop trolling
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>>141185631
oh yeah blockner and blobulord are way more challenging
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>>141185631
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>giving up on Everything Hurts because it's just too much

Feels terrible.
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>get fantastic RNG in any of these games
>start playing like an absolute monkey
>fail a run that the game basically handed to me on a silver platter
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>get plunger on floor 1
>get bug boots from floor 2 boss
>oooh, i can finally spam poison everywhere
>most enemies after that are either immune or flying
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>>141187097
there are plenty of enemies after that point that aren't immune. totally worth taking a second and 5 ammo to cover an entire room in poison
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>>141187660
This is true. I appreciate the devs implementing ctrl to quick swap two guns to make this kind of execution intuitive.
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>>141186841
I got it within ten tries and I don't even main Melting.
Git lucky
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>>141190063
I got it on my second try and I mained melting
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>RISK OF RAIN HAS AN UPDATE
RISK OF RAIN HAS AN UPDATE
>RISK OF RAIN HAS AN UDPATE
RISK OF RAIN HAS AN UPDATE

WHAT'S IN THE BOX?
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>>141191993
bugfix, ie nothing?
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>>141191993
no it doesn't you liar
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>AKEY47 doesn't unlock oubliette locks
fug
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

FUCKING HIGH PRIEST

fucking bullets he shoots whenever the screen goes dark spawned FUCKING RIGHT ONTOP OF ME FUCK THIS STUPID SHIT FUCKING GAME
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>>141194328
me on the left
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>>141194328
>not updating your game
you only have yourself to blame
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So this was my items from chamber 3 I think. RNG loves me. I ended up getting masteries 1, 2, and 5. I also ended up rolling the bones and getting a few extra hearts for a total of 10.
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Holy shit, muscle relaxant crossbow is so fucking good. It carried me all the way to the Dragun. Only wish I got omega bullets or faster reload, would've been insane.
Also, why is the Hunter's past so easy compared to the Pilot's?
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>>141195318

it is updated, i'm not talking about the bullets that float around I'm talking about the wave of bullets he shoots

maybe I walked into them but there was 0 chance of me dodging that shit
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new bread when
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>>141192586
Really? this is probably a bug because it unlocks everything else.
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>>141194328
the big burst of bullets that spawn in that phase are telegraphed like 3 seconds in advance at their spawn locations, anon
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>>141194328
>>141199615
That and you can just hide in the hallway and almost nothing will hit you.
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>>141199615

No, you're wrong.
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NEW THREAD
>inb4 "8 shitposts early"
>>141200569
>>141200569
>>141200569
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>>141200631
Anon. The reason you wait until bump limit before making a thread is so that the previous thread cannot be bumped any more.
So for example, if an anon came into the thread without paying attention to the post count, you wouldn't have that thread staying up for 3 more hours clogging the catalogue.
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>>141200846
let's kill this one quick then, shall we?
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>>141200953
That's like. 5 posts.
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>>141201921
And now it's like. 4 posts
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>>141202020
make it 2
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>>141202020
Soon it will be <3 posts.
The same way I <3 you.
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okay
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>>141196542
There is clear visual cue where they spawn, you're just a bad player.
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Is it better to die in the Gungeon, or just pull out while you can?
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