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SAXON edition

>/twg/ steam groups (MP battles on weekend, co-op anytime)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Attila
TWC Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2105-Total-War-Attila-Modifications
Slavic Race Culture DLC -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiVx6yBp4fg [Embed]
Age of Charlamagne -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNOy63UZXvM [Embed]
Last Roman -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPOHiFTQDyc [Embed]
Empires of Sand DLC -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YN4doAZDPU [Embed]
Attila launch trailer -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9xmbMLyMuo [Embed]

>Warhammer
EGX Siege AI and Vamp vs Chaos gameplay -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj05Ll1Mark [Embed]
Chaos vs Empire battle -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uao1Pu-Kw88 [Embed]
Vampire Counts Campaign -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a9nF8X2Yd4 [Embed]
Vampire Counts Reveal -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj605sogy3I [Embed]
Corruption Blog -- http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/How_Corruption_Works_in_Total_War:_WARHAMMER
How Corruption Works -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6PPH4GkEM8 [Embed]
Vampire Counts Roster -- http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Vampire_Counts_Army_Roster
Siege of Hovel -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SFM6-LC6io [Embed]

>Pastebin FAQs
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

>>140778186
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First for Pontus.
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Frist for Grimgor, the absolute madgreenman
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>>140847298
stupid sexy saxon
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Rollerino
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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general
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>>140847568
I was going to play Shogun 2 but hey, why not?
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For saving Paganism in Europe.
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Xth for best casters
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daily reminder attila has 48 siege layouts
warhammer total war has 3
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IF OUR LORD IS T'BECOME KING I'm voting out in the Wood elf referendum
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>>140847694

Metal as fuk
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>>140847651
you rolled best horde, enjoy
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>3 weeks, and 20 hours
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Why can't we just get along
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If our Warboss Grimgor is to become the best
Military leader of all the orcs and elves
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>21 days
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something something hussars
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I'm going to be an absolute madman and play a vanilla ME2 campaign. What faction should I choose?
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>>140848018
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>>140848030

MAKE BADLANDS GREAT AGAIN
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>>140848250
venice, focus on the east, milan got you covered
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>>140847869
>>140848110
i want it now
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IF OUR CHIEFTAIN IS TO BECOME WARBOSS

This meme is horribly overdone
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>>140848250
HRE
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>>140847568
pls no horsefuckers
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>>140847568
ROL' 'EM DIZES BOYZ
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>>140847850
>gettin' ta 'now 'ow te wroit on dose umie bokses.
>takin time te ask proppa queshuns
>den everyun goes ta anudda tredd
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>>140848328

Do you guys think he's already wearing his quest armor in that pic?

I'm going to play Grimgor and I want to know what he will look like
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>>140848423
Fuck No. Reroll
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>>140848331
>milan got you covered
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Hopefully we get the chaos ones soon
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Guys...GUYS....

GUYS!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_YLkIjJtbg
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>>140848563
Don't have the DLC. Rereroll
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>>140848483

Im pretty sure armors wont change LL's actual look in-game. Just stats changes and all that.

Unless im wrong
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>>140848715

We know.

We seen it.
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>>140848715
>Posting about DoW in /twg/
You need to go back >>>/tg/
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>>140848737
Idem, REEEEroll
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>>140848780
Oh...did someone post it in the last thread?
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>>140848892
WE WARHAMMER NOW WHITE BOI
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>>140848761

I think quest items will display on the character
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>>140848892
Sorry, there's not exactly a dedicated DoW general here on /vg/ and /tg/ is fags so I figured the bleed over from all those Make War Not Love competitions would like, open this up to DoW hype
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How long until historical mods for Warhammer? Not too long please.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxEHZqJY_0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxEHZqJY_0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxEHZqJY_0U

Better or worse than van Dyke?
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>>140849461

It doesn't take much to do better than thunka
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>>140849083
You could do a warhammer games general, there're lots of games to discuss and periodical threads on /v/, it would be mostly fluff discussion and you know it.
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>>140849725
Shogun 2 was good
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>>140849461

Extradaemon you silly cunt stop shilling your channel
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>>140849461
>15:50

Literally Rome I.
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>>140849461

It's pretty damn good mostly.
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>>140849461

I'll listen to it later I'm watching some anime right now
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>>140849872
20 minutes of the TWWH soundtrack seems like something this thread would like, the fact that I'm the one who uploaded it is irrelevant.

fug you maggot
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>>140849461
pretty ebin desu
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>21 days for TWW
>Bannerlord beta in december

Help
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>>140850670
I literally cannot contain my hype for bannerlord, at least warhammer is only a few weeks away
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>>140849461

>inb4 guest composition by Jesper Kyd for the Skaven DLC

Vermintide was a pretty cool game, but the best part by far was the sound-track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfsZhYiCNfA
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>>140850670
>that charge
>that momentum
Everytime.
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>>140844281
>with his mob following a safe distance behind him

kek, why is Grimgor so based.
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>>140849461
Needs more thunka
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>>140847838
But did you know that Wood Elf scholars have recently said that if Bretonnia leaves the protection of the lady, the economy will shrink by 6.32%, or 10 bushels of grain per household! Yes! Really!
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>>140852153
GRIMGOR IZ DA BEST
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>>140850670
Wait, what, beta in December? Fuck I thought the release date was 2016.
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>>140852704

But the Lady is legit the only reason why Grail Knights are fucking superhumans in meme greathelms
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>>140852073
>that pic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W5D6ZP5kyc

Didn't see the chaos vs dwarfs in the pasta.
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>>140853852
Go away arch shill
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>>140848328
that's some based motherfucker right there

How can an orc be so based?
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>>140853975
By being the best.
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>>140853786
whats the sauce?
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>>140853786
>mfw its so cropped its impossible to guess the sauce
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>more people playing rome 2 emperor edition than attila
why is this?
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>>140853852

fuck off arch
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>>140853852
Leave.
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>>140854434

muh rome and muh sparta

muh pontus
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>>140853852
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>>140853852
I refuse to watch Arch. Someone sum up his retarded ass complaints so I can feel good about how autistic he is
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>>140854434
Because I don't want to pay for R2 twice
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>>140855036
He makes a number of points but he basically praises that week trial of chaos they are offering and is going to preorder.
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>>140855353
>and is going to preorder.
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These DeI Triarii are super human killing machine. Would pikes work for stopping them in their tracks maybe?
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>>140854224
>>140854279
anasheya
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>>140855353
I'm sure he was totally never gonna pre-order, and only now that CA changed their policy (clearly because of his feedback) will he give them his business.
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>>140855643

Triarii were fucking stronk mane
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>140855643
Forgot my pic
>>140855830
Well yeah they were veterans with good equipment, but I still need to murder them
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>>140855795
yeah CA did well to pick up on his criticisms and reverse some of the damage to their reputation they miht have inflicted with the community.
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>>140853852
Fuck off Arch.
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>>140856164
WAVE AFTER WAVE, I'M SLOWLY DRIFTING
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>>140856164
Total Warmachine still not announced
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>>140855643
The only way is javelins and slingers. They can devour your cav and spit out their bones as soon as they make contact. They can be surrounded by your shitty early game swords and fight exhausted for half an hour. But they can't kill your pinning unit fast enough to break them and engage the two units of 250 denarii javelinmen obliterating them from 10m behind.
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>>140856164
>mfw
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>>140856510
curious to see how the casket would work? Guess it'll be a caster with unlimited range or something.
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>>140855795
Exactly. Based Arch has saved Total Warhams
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>>140856164
WE
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>>140855730
Aaaand its western futanari.
Thanks for the sauce anyway
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>>140857192

WUZ
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>>140856164
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>>140850670

>Butterlord this year
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>>140856510
DRIFTING AWAYYY
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>>140853852

Arch truly is the tool to rule all tools.

Anyone remember back in February and March when he was convinced that no work had been done on the Vampire Count and the CA was pulling the wool over everyone's eyes and planning to remove them from the base release?
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>>140857423
>Butterlord ever getting released from development hell
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>>140857281

TOMB
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>>140857047
I think and hope it's some form of artillery so you can man it first hand.
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>>140856510

>drifting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86PUB4u2s2A
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>>140857773
KANGZ
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>>140857773
QUEENS
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>>140856510

>eurobeat starts playing
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>>140857467
That rant was fucking hilarious
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>>140857525
This. the gameplay was disappointing and fell way short of the primises made by devs. The graphics appear unambitious and the period looks totally incoherent with weapons that obviously weren't aroudn during the early medieval period.
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Comfy borders.
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>>140858906

Aksum cucked the world. Hataz did.
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>>140858906
Now colonize the US for historical accuracy
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>>140857467
I'm pretty sure at one point he said he thought CA were deliberately avoiding him. The guy is a living meme at this point.
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The lvl of tomb kings worshipping here is beyong my comprehension
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>>140858994
He took an Aksum army to Britannia.
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>>140854434
Personally I find the time period much more appealing, plus I don't have attila

One day I'll get it, I have all TW games after all, but for now WH is what I'm waiting for.
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>>140858807
Idunno, the gameplay I saw looked nice enough, but I don't like the idea of taking the game further back in time. I would have been happy with a more "birth of gunpowder" late medieval sort of deal.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxEHZqJY_0U&t=12m0s

Nice
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>>140859496
I always liked their models, can't wait to play them.
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>>140859496
closest bronze age total war faction we'll get until CA reveal Iliad: total war as the next historical
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Greenskins cucked the world! Grimgor did!
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>>140859736
doesn't fit in with the theme of warbands and small raiding parties though
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>>140860142
The fucking old ones had ork spores in their ships, now that's the final result
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>>140850941

god damn kyd is so fucking based
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>>140860296
Yeah but this is Mount & Blade: Bannerlord, not "Warband"
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>>140857047
mfw didn't get my tomb keks before GW killed them
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>>140859496
>Greenskin shit getting insecure in the sight of his betters
Colour me surprised
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>>140861612
>skeletons throwing kamehamehas

Ok , now I'm interested, what the fuck is going on with this faction
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>>140861881
Skelly Magic.
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>>140861881
Best faction
The tomb kangz
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>>140862208
Honestly, in Warhammer I couldn't even choose a best faction.
There are about eight factions sharing the number one seat for me.
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>>140862763
Which would be?
The factions you like tell much about your person
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>bretonnia still not playable
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For trade income.
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>reading the knight series

Grail knights shpuld be stronger in the game
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>>140863318
orcs, tomb kangs and lizarmen for me
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>>140863920
>Read about the end times
Grimgor really shouldn't be able to lose in a fight.
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>>140863318
Khemri, Dark Elves, Wood Elves, Chaos, Lizardmen, Skaven, Vampire Counts, Goblins.

Closely followed by Dwarfs and Greenskins.

Ogres, humans, high elves and chaos dwarfs aren't very nice, for me personally, although in Total Warhammer I'll probably play the Empire first, because it feels right or something.

I don't believe that the factions necessarily tell much about the person, because it is always a matter of perspective why people like a certain race.
If you ask them for why they like a certain race the most, that actually tells a lot, does it not?
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>>140864125
Oh and I said Goblins, because I'd play a Goblin army with maybe one or two ork units in them, if any. Mostly night gobbos and wood gobbos with itzy bitzy spiders, shrooms crazies and a whole lot of hatred for the sun and da elvez.
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when
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>>140863920

They rape
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>>140864490

__Never__
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>>140855036
He complained about lack of Dawn of War tier animations for legendary lords and such, as well as the chaos United not being amalgamations of all four chaos gods, he argued since its chaos undivided the units shouldn't all look the same and for example in the units of chaos chosen should be all chosen of the four gods in the unit, rather than just all chosen with one look
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>tfw no Khemri Warshpinx in BotET

Fucking why?
How is it any different than a retextured elephant?
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>>140864885

I'm pretty sure chaos undivided is just generic chaos units
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>>140864490
I WANT IT SO BAD

SO MANY TRIBES

SO MUCH TRESPASSING BUTTHURT

SO MUCH WAR
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>>140864885

Nit picking for the sake of it.
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>>140865103
>>140865039
That's Arch for you
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For those that are knowledgeable with Warhammer lore,

Whom would win in a fight; a Necrosphinx, or a Shaggoth?
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>>140865473
Grimgor.
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>>140861517
I'd sell you mine but they're a few hundred miles away atm. You can probably pick them up on ebay but remember Devlan.Mud.Wash
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>>140865565
That's dedder than whfb and tomb keks combined though
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>>140865473
The Necrosphinx is actually designed to take down large monsters, so it'd probably win.
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>>140865473
Necrosphinx
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>>140861378
Faith, steel, and gunpowder to you, friend.
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What the fuck were the Tomb Keks before they went all boney? Why/how did their empire die?
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>>140866059
Probably a good thing GW moved onto AoS. That wash was indispenable for skellingtons and pretty much anything.
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>>140863318
Empire is my favorite. Tell us what this means, Fampai fortune man.
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>>140866441
One guy turned everyone into skellingtons
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>>140866473
There should be something similar in the new line, but I'm still using some old paints I have around so I never looked into it
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>>140866441
They were the Glorious sub-Saharan Egyptian empire
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>>140866552
Lots of pussy in your future
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>>140866741
Oh, so same as right now.
:^)
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>>140866684
Isn't it ironic that the Egyptians actually regarded sub-Saharan Africans as like a separate race and enslaved them and junk yet you have Afrocentrists saying we wuz pharaohs n shiet mang
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>>140866441
Priest (Vizier) Kings became the Tomb Kings. They were fairly similar to what they are now (an Egyptian civilization with a particular reverence for the dead), the main differences being that their land was a breadbasket not a valley of death and that they were flesh/blood not skeletons.

Still not sure why people want them so badly though, especially before races like Skaven/Lizardmen.
"You and your masters are desicated relics of a dead age. And what greater prospect do I have in Nagash's service, a future of mindless servitude in an unchanging world? The Great Necromancer is a selfish child. Though assured of his power, he remains forever terrified that another will take it from him. He will not be satisfied until his is the only will in existence, for only then can he be safe."

—Henrinch Kemmler, talking to his nemesis Arkhan the Black
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>>140866441
basically the first human empire, some desert people discovered ancient entities in the desert and made a pact for their souls if the gods would enrich the land. The mortis river burst its banks and made the land fertile and a great empire grew up. Settra united it into an Empire but before he died he demanded his priests to find a way to bring him back shiny and chrome so he could rule forever. Somewhere down the royal line nagash is born second in line to the throne, learns dark magic from stranded dark elfs, kills them and murders his brother. His brothers wife was the most beautiful and sacred person in the land and he desecrates her and uses her powers to dominate the land until he eventually is defeated. Nagash runs off to a mountain full of warpstone and fights the skaven until he gets enough to curse the entirety of nehekhara to undeath but leaves himself vulnerable to the last pharoah Alcadizaar who slays him with a skaven sword.
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>>140866986
Racist shitlord. I bet you even have dreads.
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>>140867143
>>140867052
Thanks.
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>>140865565
I want them non-prebuilt, so I can give them all ebin poses and shit myself.
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>>140866473
got anymore pics of that steamtank?
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>>140867684
yeah I hear you though stay the fuck away from those snakes. Its like trying to glue a spring down most people end up using blue tack instead. Oh well at least the old skeleton warriors glue together pretty well.
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>>140867963
I actually don't even like those anyway.
I'm stuck in gen6 warhammer and everything newer than that doesn't really interest me.
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>>140867792
really great model and builds easily too.
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>>140847568
gon get me sum dat Aksum nigguh
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>>140867052
Kemmler is so damn based. First playthrough is him #1
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>>140847796
>>140847568
rollun
>>
3 WEEKS

I really want the blood+gore animations/textures added very soon after launch, it wouldn't feel right without them.
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Listening to the music samples.

And boy, I can't fucking wait. the music sounds great.
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>get chaos pack if you order in the first week

so what the hell is the point in pre-ordering the game?
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>>140870859
Preload, I guess.
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>>140870859
Preloading the game and a dota 2 item, apparently.

Not much of an incentive really but at least I got the GMG discount
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>>140870859
special dota2 items
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>>140870859
pre-load I guess
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>>140870859
You get to preload and play it the instant it's released.
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>>140870859
I can't believe nobody mentioned the ability to pre-load and the dota items.
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>>140868371
its beautifully made and painted, greatjob!
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>>140870937
>>140870946
>>140870960
>>140870961
>>140870996
So no reason?,you can always trade for the Dota 2 item
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>>140871529
Because you're gonna buy it anyways so you may as well just get it.
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>>140871529
more pre-orders = better numbers for managment = more projects get approved = more content and previously canned stuff get's made for the game
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Should betray Macedon or help him with Tyllis and take Thracia?
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>>140871753

but I could wait a few days into release and see if its shit and still get the same benefits?
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>>140872094
Yes, you are now realising what has been said a million times before in that preordering games (unless you're getting some massive discount off it or something) doesn't really make sense
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What S2 mod allows the AI to field gunpowder units in decent numbers? And is the AI good at using them? Usually I'm the only one fielding them even in late game.
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>>140872094
You can do that anyways. Steam accepts refunds. You can even play it for a little bit yourself. You might also find someone to tell you the code for a discount on GMG.
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>>140872029
Just invade Rome
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>>140872029

Invade britain
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>To spite the evil gods that want me to destroy the world, I'll destroy the world !

t. Diederick Kastner
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I have arachnophobia and I notice TWW will have spiders. You think CA will add an option for me that lets me disable the spider unit?
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>>140873854
No. Just don't zoom in on them.
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>>140873854

Just play as dorfs and kill them while fully zoomed out then gradually zoom in, conquer your phobia with the power of the slayers
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>>140873854
Or hope for a mod that reskins them to bears like in skyrim.
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>>140873854

address your fear, coward.
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>>140873854
Just get therapy, it works you know. If it's so bad you can't even handle them in games it must be pretty damn debilitating.
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>>140873854
You're no true Scotsman.
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>>140874589
I actually ended up using >>140874217 that mod when I played skyrim. I could stomach the giant spiders in first person view, but I didn't enjoy it. Turning them all into bears made the game a lot more enjoyable.
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>>140873921
I'll still have to look at it though.

>>140874217
I downloaded that mod. Total lifesaver for me.

>>140874589
It is. I had to stop playing Bloodborne when I reached the spider boss.

I don't think I can afford therapy.
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>>140873854
How bad is your arachnophobia? If nothing else just remember that these are comically oversized spiders being ridden by green cockney midgets.

they're cartoons, just like this picture. I found a little spider that just wants to help you enjoy the best Total War!
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>>140873998
this
fucking squash them and beat your fear
STOP RUNNING AWAY
TIME TO FIGHT
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>>140875097
I'm not clicking that image and it's pretty bad. It's the hairy ones that really get me.

And they may be cartoony and fictional, from what images I saw they looked fairly realistic.
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>>140873854
>2016
>being afraid of the bros that keep all the annoying bugs out of your house.
They just want to be loved, anon.
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>>140873854
don't worry, it'll be over soon

I'd be more afraid of mud daubers because of spider bombs
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>>140875379
How hairy do they have to be, friend?
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>>140875379
>>140875097
I used to have a terrible Arachnophobia but then I became fascinated with tarantulas and its all gone because of the fuzz.
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>>140875662
At first sight I thought that was a rabbit
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>>140875379
Scale of 1-10 how triggered are you right now?
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>>140875379
Hey, at least I spoilered my adorable spider.

Anyway the ones in W:TW are completely hairless from what I've seen so that's one hurdle. Honestly with the Denuvo bullshit I'm not putting much faith mods showing up for several months. The best I can offer is the knowledge you get to take flamethrowers to the creepy bastards, and they're nowhere near as in-your-face as Skyrim.
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>>140876065
Denuvo doesn't prevent modding. Don't get that shit started up again in here.
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>>140875745
Same here, good nukige with spiderwaifu maid fixed me very fast.
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>>140876250
t. Radious
Chill out friend, you'll have to ply your snakeoil elsewhere.
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>>140876345

Radious? Did someone say Radious?

MOUNTED GOBLIN SLAYERS OF SIGMAR [Very Heavy Dwarven Crossbows]
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>>140876294
Ditto but with snakes
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>>140875379
It's a video game you pussy. They're not real. You should be afraid of telling your father that you're gay instead
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I've been playing lizardmen since the 6th. What race should I play for my first tww campaign?
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>>140879102
Just because your father beat you when you told him doesn't mean everyone in the closet should be afraid to tell their dad.
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What's the strongest single unit that's likely to turn up in Total Warhammer?
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>>140880183

ur mum
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>>140880293
rude
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>>140880183

Elite Legacy Triarii Swordsmen
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>>140880183
Coffin Shield Giants. Screencap this post.
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>>140880183
Kholek I guess?
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>>140880183
A chaos lord
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Am I fucked?
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>>140847298

>Have older graphics card. GTX 660 TI
>Atilla barely runs on it.
>Check youtubers with same card they seem to run it well.
>Have thought it might be my processor.
>Can't check it until I get home.
>Can't recall what it was.
>I might have been playing with just a subpar processor the whole time and could have been enjoying the game more.
>Stuck out while wondering what setup I should get for Warhammer Total war to run it well.

I'm enjoying the games I'm playing so far, but I need more performance.
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>>140882064
You were fucked the moment you picked the Saxonshits.
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>>140882064
run some cheap spear in loose formation to soak up javs then send in the cav

or autoresolve like a bitch
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>>140882064

Try and surround them. They'll run out of ammo and be subpar melee fighters.
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>>140882209
Warhammer is gonna run better than Attila.
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>>140882209

Man I really miss those fuckton of stacks

Limited armies was a mistake
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>>140847869
>Posting Hime
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>>140882209
>>140882597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0z5cmzZqB8

they talk about it here, but we will see. With toning down match combat, going 64bit, and using directX12 I'll assume it will be we will see in 3 weeks
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>>140883332

This game will run as smooth as a cock going inside a wet pussy
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>>140883585
Please use language that us understanders of strategy can understand.
>>
New to Atilla and Total War in general. Is a city with a gold resource worth it? It was razed to the ground and I'd have to restart the whole thing from scratch. Plus defending it seems more trouble than its worth since it's so far out.
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>>140883785

Fine

This game will run as smooth as a roman boat sliding into british sands
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>>140883858
Good boost to income. Consider it an investment.
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>>140883858

Yes
Its the best kind of city, it makes you filthy rich
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>>140883923
That's fucking smooth.
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SHIEEEET
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>>140883332

The game just runs so terribly and I can't remember a game running so choppy since Rome 2. Shogun 2 I thought ran well, I could be wrong. I will play all of them tonight when I am home.
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>>140885313

Oh look
Its fat family!
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>>140873854
War is scary. You should be scared
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>>140881867
Okay i think im missing something here, who is kunn the scarred?
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>>140886861
That's what we called your mom in college.
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>>140880183
Lord of change.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_V5jPt__OE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r80b1ii7l2o
>3 weeks
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>>140886861
Probably just a random hero/lord.
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>>140887678

Greenskin OST when
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>>140847568
roll
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>>140885313


they wuz kangz yet still got cucked by a buncha italians
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>>140888709
No they didn't. Hannibal continued to cuck the Italians. It took Scipio AFRICANUS, another African, to defeat Hannibal. A shame he did, too, because Scipio brought racism to Europe by letting Rome win.
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>>140889106
>Scipio Africanus
>another African
WE WUZ ROMANS AND SHEEEIT
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>>140889106
I'm confused, are you a retard or a troll?
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>>140889376
Care to explain why he had the name AFRICANUS, then? He was Scipio AFRICANUS because he came FROM AFRICA.

>>140889409
I'm just making sure the people in this thread know the TRUE history of the Second Punic War.
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>>140889409
t. racist """historian"""
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>>140889106

>mfw /twg/ always falls for bait
>>
Daily prayer for Warhammer optimization.
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>>140889819
hakuna matata
>>
>Make a peace treaty with a faction
>They're free to raid me unharassed for the next 15 turns otherwise I'm an untrustworthy faggot

Why doesn't them raiding my trade routes at least break the goddamn treaty?

GODDAMN EBDANIANS GET THE FUCK OUT OF AQUATANIA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>140883585
>>140883923
>>140884098
>>140883785
>>
>>140890664

>Trusting Hordes
>Ever

Had it coming.
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>>140854434
the multiplayer is better
>>
3 weeks, and 12 hours
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>>140892667
until what?
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>>140893427
ULTIMATE WAAAAAAAAAAAGH
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>>140893427
wh tw
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>>140880183

Well considering Darren said that the Lord of Change would be in-game, and is extremely powerful, probably that until they add other crazy powerful characters/units like Necrosphinx and Nagash
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>>140887678

GoT-tier, i'm loving the OST so far
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>>140883923
Okay context?
>>
Running Attila on my GTX570 & 2500K on quality. Going for 970 next month since its within budget. I should do well right?
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>>140895264
New GPUs are dropping next month, so you should be able to get something better than the 970 at around the same price point.
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>>140894673
>>
How do I avoid being buttfucked by Realm Divide?
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Be honest bros....is Total War: Arena any good?

It seems like it could be fun.
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>>140896823
Savescum to just before it happens and turtle forever
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>>140896823
Once youre at acclaimed you stop fighting and set your taxes to low so your towns can accumulate growth.

1 surplus food = 1 town growth.
you should be at 30 surplus food and with some mastery of the arts stuff and markets your towns should grow by 50 per turn.
>>
>Late game TWW
>You' ve taken all the human lands, fought chaos invaders back some, and have comfy borders
>Suddenly, lord of change
>Your nobility begin to rebel
>Armies all over the empire begin to betray you/rebel
>Half of your remaining units die to horrible mutation
>In the end, you're just huddled up in Reikland, doing your best to hold out against the end of the world
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>>140895908
Won't that bottleneck my CPU? I'm not that tech savvy.
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>>140895908
>>140898109
Also interested in graphic choices for TWW, building new pc and want a budget card till new ones drop whats a good choice?
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>>140898426
I use the ati radeon r9 270x

it's not the best card on the market by a long shot, but for about 200$ it's a pretty solid card. I can run most games at around medium/high, with 1080 resolution.

Considering that they've also improved the way the game is rendered, and dx12, the card should still be able to run TW:WH quite decently for the money
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>>140898109
>>140898426
>>140898761
Alternatively a gtx 960 is a fine medium grade card that won't cost you too much and will run anything you wanna play. Just check what you got against the game's specs and see if you even need to upgrade at all.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/total-war-warhammer/13137
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>>140899210
>Spears decapitate in Attila

wut
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>>140898109
If your CPU is a bottleneck, then it will be a bottleneck regardless of what GPU you buy. Having a better GPU is only ever going to be a good thing. You'll probably get an extra year or two out of the 1070 or 490 before you feel compelled to upgrade, so that's something else to consider.
>>
Any idea how GPU intensive tww is gonna be compared to attila? My old 7950 runs attila fine but I'm worried warhammer might be too much for her.
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>>140900495
I've got an idea. Just buy a new computer if you're worried. This isn't PC-spec general.
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>>140900495
Read the thread man. If you can run attila, you can run warhammer better. Attila is unoptimized to shit and WH is actually gonna be functionally modern.
>>
WE
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>>140900816
WERE
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>>140900881
MILITARY
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>>140899815
Sorry didn't mean to quote.
>>
do none of you fuckos have Arena beta access?

Damnit I just wanted to know if it was good or not
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>>140899815
why couldn't you decapitate someone with a spear?

A thrust to the neck and a bit of leverage and pop goes the head.
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>>140899903
Good point senpai, i had abandoned my PC for a PS4 last year, huge mistake.
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>>140899815
They're basically knives on sticks
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>>140901038
>what is a spine?

If youre lucky and you somehow tear through the gap, it could work, otherwise youll just knock him over, but hes dead anyways so who cares.
>>
>>140889520
Pretty racist of you to assume that you're automatically black if you come from Africa.
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>>140900996
Is Arena even alive still
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I know Tomb Kaaangz will be a faction eventually but what are the chances that we'll get Necrosphinx, since other factions are still missing some key units as well.
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>>140903765
The beta ended a few months ago.

>>140900996
It was alright, but it just made me want to play a normal Total War game.
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>>140899210

What do I do?
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>>140904775
Wait and see how the game runs for you. If it's not up to your standards, then the new GPUs will be weeks away.
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Alright, let's get some discussion going in this dead thread.

Presumably based off of the Chaos model, all factions will have 3 Legendary Lords.

Who, in your opinion, do you think will fill the last few slots?

For clarification there is still
>2 spots for Bretonia
>1 spot for Dwarfs
>1 spot for Empire
>1 spot for VC
>1 spot for Orks

My guesses are as follows:
>Bretonnia
1. Morgiana Le Fay
2. The Green Knight

>Dwarfs
1. Thorek Ironbrow

>Empire
1. Volkmar the Grim
(I'd prefer Kurt Helborg or Luthor Huss but they are probably too similar in playstyle to Karl)

>Vampire Counts
1. Krell, Lord of Undeath
pic related

>Orks
1. Warlord Skarsnik

What do you think /twg/, am I right on the money or do you think they will use different options? I'd love to hear some alternatives.

Keep in mind that while they are seemingly willing to use dead characters (like Azhag) they aren't willing to use characters that have been dead for a long ass period of time (like Vlad) when formulating your answers.
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>>140904846
>>
I'm just finishing downloading Empire total war. Should i play it vanilla the first time or go straight to mods?
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>>140904775
That's for recommended, not required. You'll be able to run it, just maybe not on very high settings.
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>>140904962
>Warlord Skarsnik
Wurrzag is already confirmed for Orcs BUT I WANT SKARSNIK TOO
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>>140905272
I bet we'll get him in a lord pack with squig units.
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Is there any mod for Empire that fixes diplomacy or at least starts everyone at a blank slate? I feel like every single time I play I'm railroaded into doing the same exact thing with each specific faction respectively

Like you want to play as Britain? East indies and naval while attacking india and north america
Want to try prussia? Sorry but no matter what happens you're going to be fighting the entire world practically
Sweden? I hope you weren't planning on your comfy little island while colonizing the americas because you're going to be fighting denmark, poland, and russia

Every time

And diplomacy doesn't even work. Like 1 turn in I ask someone for a trade agreement and they will only agree if I give them half my country
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>>140905272
That is a shame, I don't mind Wurrzag but I would've preferred to have seen Skarsnik just to have a goblin leader even if some of the greenskin fans would've bitched about it.

I get that Skarsnik's whole bit is he is "a clever greenskin amongst stupid greenskins" like Azhag but I would've loved to see a little goblin leader charging across the battlefield accompanied by squigs.

It also seems like Azhag fills the role of caster well enough already but I guess they want a true support LL for the Orcs much like Heinrich Kemmler or Balthazar Gelt.
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>>140905501
There is nothing that fixes Empire, im not even kidding.
The best you can find is some unit-mods.
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>>140904962
Krell will end up a mount choice for kemmler

Luther is too similar to karl (combat/ army inspirier) so a more melee oriented charactor be sweet
>>
>>140904962
>Thorek Ironbrow

Does he actually fight? I thought he was just a runesmith.

The rest I'm okay with although I'm doubtful about them including the Green Knight for Bretonnia but I guess I don't know enough of their famous lore characters who are still alive to dispute this or offer an alternative.

Morgiana is practically guaranteed as the alternative LL to Louen Leoncoeur.
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>>140905839
I just am really afraid CA is going to be stupid and bring back Konrad for the VC's as their 3rd more heavily melee oriented character (with Mannfred representing a middle ground between the heavy melee LL and Kemmler).

Krell fits perfectly in the spot and is actually alive (well, as much as an undead can be). I'd rather not see them pull another Azhag and just continue to bring back dead people.
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>>140905874
Unmoving magic artillery, decent in melee it would be interesting to play with and against
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>>140905698
I don't really think Wurrzag has many fans compared to Skarnsnik, and a goblin legendary lord is an obvious choice. They'll get around to it in a pack selling us squigs, i'm sure.
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>>140906139
You'd think they would need to make it pretty powerful to compensate though, otherwise armies like Bretonnia would just skullfuck the dwarfs because they could outmaneuver and rout their artillery every time with their cavalry charges.

Only other Dwarf I really know a lot about is Gotrek though and he is a definite no since the Slayer King is in.
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>>140906345
I hope so, but I'm doubtful because it seems like they want to cap the number of LL each faction has so it doesn't get to the point where every single one of your little armies is lead by some monstrous beast of a unit with 5+ personal perks.

3 seems like a reasonable "okay that's enough" point. Especially considering some factions barely even have 3 major lore characters to them.
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>>140906123
Unless there is some strigoi vamp I dont know i think they may well go with konrad, mannfred is to similar. They could go isabella and bump up her support roles
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>>140906783
Or... or... and stay with me here on this one...

They could just use Krell, and NOT slap around the lore even more. Krell and Konrad would essentially both fill the exact same niche.

Isabella should be a definite no, she only really did anything of consequence during the End Times which NEVER HAPPENED.
>>
So Lord of Change has been more or less confirmed right? Does that mean ARCH-aon the Everfaggot wll be able to fight a Bloodthirster or whatever as part of his artifact quest? (Keep in mind, I've only read the Wiki on this massive faggot)
>>
What makes Krell so special anyway?
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>>140906953
Fuck the lore. I hope they add cool shit regardless of if they was around in the nebulous time period the game takes place in.
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>>140906956
Now anon, Archaon may be bad but he isn't even in the same god damn ballpark as Abaddon when it comes to bullshit mary-sue ridiculousness.

Be thankful that while WH jumped the shark with the End Times, we still get to enjoy games revolving around the lore that ignores it all together.

Abaddon is a permanent staple of the 40k universe and ruins just about everything he touches with his mediocrity.

Seriously, Archaon could be so much fucking worse.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Abaddon
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This game will unlock in approximately 3 weeks, and 9 hours
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>>140873854
>I have arachnophobia
All the more reason to play the game and kill the eight legged freaks.
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>>140907274
Why are all slayers gingers?
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man, the armigeri defensores are so good after all the buffs to roman units, it actually lets WRE dominate other infantry in the mid game
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>>140906985
He has been a Chaos Champion of Khorne, a Dark Lord of Nagash, a Mortarch, and a Wight King.

He is so god damn powerful both Nagash and Kemmler were like
>oh damn, I totally need this dude for my army
when they came across him.

The guy is just a walking whirlwind of death on the battlefield and absolutely ancient (something like 1500+ years before the founding of the Empire, old).
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>>140907141
>1d4chan

nice outdated meme.
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>>140906732
They have done nothing to allude to any such cap. Chaos having 3 LL doesn't mean anything.

>so it doesn't get to the point where every single one of your little armies is lead by some monstrous beast of a unit
We don't know how or when the LL you don't choose are acquired. Normal lords aren't even that much less powerful anyways.

>with 5+ personal perks.
Starting perks are for you main LL only and you'll have to put in the time do level up your secondary LL and put in more time to do their quest lines if you want any of their perks.
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>Ai just disembarks and moves halfway across Britannia during winter and just rapes my town in one turn

I mean I know Vikings but come on.
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>>140897069
>It seems like it could be fun.
It was arcadey fun. But it's currently dead.
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Anybody want to do multiplayer battles in Shogun? Never played multi and I'll get stomped
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>>140907109
Fuck you fag. They shouldn't just compromise it entirely just to be "fun".

There is a reason we aren't getting to play as Nagash, Vlad, or Sigmar.

Tiny concessions like Azhag are fine but not people who died hundreds of years ago like Konrad.

Karl Franz ascended to the Imperial Throne in 2502, thus we have a general timeline for the game.

The Second Vampire War (in which Konrad died) took place from 2058 to 2121, almost 381 years prior to the game.
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>>140907454
It isn't outdated if Abaddon still sucks dick as a character.

GW can try all they want to make his "next crusade super serious FOR REALS THIS TIME GUYS" but he is a fucking chump and a loser.

I can't believe the armies of fucking Chaos are organized behind him.

Abaddon's fucking Chosen goonsquad has more personality/character than him and are more interesting characters in the lore.

Keep defending your shit character though mate.
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>>140907331
I think dyeing their hairs/beards orange is part of the cult.
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>>140907859
Abbadon was pretty dank in Battlefleet Gothic: Armada though
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>>140908012
I think the most recent game I remember him from was his random cameos in the Dawn of War series during the Chaos Campaign.

Even in that series, they undermine the shit out of him to make Eliphas the Inheritor look cool.
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>>140908152
>Not liking Eliphas the Inheritor
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>>140907686
The reason is that they can only make so much content. Whatever arbitrary exceptions you think they're allowed to or aren't allowed to make doesn't matter. It's a sandbox game that takes place outside of time.
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>>140907859
I agree that hes a boring character, but 1d4chan, if it hasnt been updated since last time I was on it, is just "lol armelss failure". As a warlord hes anything but mediocre, he has managed to wrangle the team killing retards that are the chaos warbands together to seriously fuck up the Imperium 13 times. That's about 13 times more than anyone else since Horus died
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>>140908219
ELIPHAS OPEN THE PORTAL.
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>>140908219
Oh don't get me wrong, I think Eliphas was one of the best things to come out the Dawn of War games.

That being said, rather than write up and create his own strengths as they did earlier in the series in Dawn of War 2 they chose to make him appear strong at the expense of Abaddon's image as the supposed Warmaster of Chaos.

You are meant to go "damn Eliphas is a badass the way he is even willing to go against Abaddon" and while the end result leaves Eliphas looking fly, it simply allocates Abaddon to his role as perpetual jobber yet again.

I like the Dawn of War series a lot but I'm still able to understand/acknowledge its various pitfalls especially when it comes to character development.

Getting off topic though, Fuck Abaddon.

Be thankful we have Archaon comparatively, even if you aren't the biggest fan of his.
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>>140908623
I just wanna see him take on a Bloodthirster desu
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>>140906123
Azagh is not dead by the time period of the game thou
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>>140908484
I will concede that 1d4chan is incredibly biased and as am I in this matter.

I just feel like GW is forcing Abaddon I guess, I feel like they've fucked up with developing him as a character and rather than scrap him for a new champion (and subsequently a new slew of lore) they just keep trying to force him on us by re-writing his previous campaigns to be more and more successful.


It is like someone designing a character then asking if you like them, and in response you say "not really".

So they keep adding new shit and re-writing him and then asking if you like him now. Every single time you say "not really man, maybe try something else?", our hypothetical writer (GW) throws their hands up in the air shouting "BUT WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON HIM, ONE MORE TIME, WHAT ABOUT NOW?"

"No man, fuck off. I don't like the character." I feel like this is the point most 40k fans (especially the hardcore ones like on /tg/) have arrived at with Games Workship and Abaddon.
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>>140903918
it's antimonster unit, so pretty likely
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The worst kind of fucking people
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>>140909089
Well shit man according to
>>140908291
We'd be playing as fucking Sigmar fighting against modern people like Mannfred if they had the resources.
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>>140909264
There are no good characters within the immediate presentation of 40k. They're all pretty dull. Maybe Farsight and Vect are okay maybe.
Every other character is flat and bland unless you dig into the 3rd party books.
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>>140909365
Literal plebs
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>>140909365

Just wait till Warhammer comes out, we'll have a horde of plebs asking for Dwarves to get cavalry units, Chaos and VC to get archer units aswell
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>>140909365
It's okay anon, it's probably some fucking slavshit or shitskin or something. Leave it be
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>>140909264
yeah, hes less of a character then Archaon, but hes still the biggest threat in a universe where half the factions can destroy all life.
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>>140905341
>implying he will not come along belegar and queek for the karak eight peaks pack
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>>140909573
True, I mean even the Primarchs really weren't fleshed out until the Horus Heresy novels. Some of them are still comparatively blander than others.

Maybe I'm holding Abaddon to too high a standard.
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>>140909673
Nah mate, that's more like people asking for Dwarves to not have heavy infantry.
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>>140909743
>Remove a gyrobombers pls they too hard to a kill
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>>140909737
Eh, I'm somewhat biased. I have a very strong dislike for all Space Marines, I don't think anything interesting can arise from their mary sueism. But yeah it's a general theme with all the character's presentations first party. Characters are only really defined by their actions rather than their.. character.
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>>140909573
>farsight
>good

How do you live with yourself
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>>140910089
He represents a perspective that adds depth to the Tau. He is good in that the Tau would be less interesting without him.
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>shogun 2
>crush enemy army while losing ~35% of my men
>"close victory"

>lose assault where both my generals and all elite samurai units survive
>enemy loses 2 out of 3 generals and 80% of his army
>"Decisive defeat"

Okay
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>>140910478
Blown the fuck out.
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>>140910709
The game apparently loves the Shoni. Because they can also spam rank 1 Metsuke that manage to apprehend my rank 4/5 monks and ninja. These cunts have delayed my march on Kyoto and plans to fuck up the Oda clan for almost 5 years now.
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>>140909673
I'm looking forward to the Radious mod, Dwarven cataphract archer berserkers, and Imperial chaos spawn nobles.
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Is it just me or do the battles in Rome seem lifeless compared to Shogun?
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Which Legendary Lord will you be playing at launch and why /twg/?

Sigvald the Magnificent here, and I don't even need to see his stats. I'm just pumped we are finally getting some Slaaneshi champion representation in this game.

After that I'll probably do a VC playthrough as Heinrich Kemmler.
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>>140912467
Either of the Vamps were my initial pick, but I'm not touching them until I get my Blood Dragons.

So it'll be Grimgor or Balthazar. Not sure yet, I'll probably flip a coin or something.
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>>140912467
as a /his/fag who doesn't "get" or care for any aspect of Warhammer, Balthasar's design has my attention. What's the story there?
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>>140912467
>Azhag the Slaughterer
>random Greenskin who is only subconsciously channeling a sliver of Nagash's spirit through his crown and its often at odds with this power
>able to cast a targeted Purple Sun of Xerues

>Mannfred von Carstein
>supposedly a loremaster of both death and vampiric lore, has spent hundreds of years learning the secrets of these arts and gaining mystical artifacts to better utilize said arts
>strongest Vampire Count in terms of magical prowess by far
>can only cast a randomized Purple Sun of Xereus that could very well shoot back into your own troops

>mfw

Fucking wow, CA. I hope Mannfred's Purple Sun at least hits like a fucking truck comparatively to make this not bullshit.
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>>140912725
Balthasar had always been obsessed with transmuting crude metals into gold. However, he was also interested in combining science and magic, which increased his knowledge of the Lore of Metal to greater than any other wizard. In fact, due to his research into black-powder, Balthasar even became popular with the College of Engineers, despite their usual scepticism of magic.

After a freak explosion in his laboratory, Balthasar was never seen without his metallic robes and golden mask. It was rumored that he was disfigured. Others whispered that his flesh had actually been turned to gold in the explosion - not an accident at all.

The explosion furthered Balthasar's will to succeed, until he defeated Thyrus Gormann and became Supreme Patriarch, replacing the prominence of the Bright Order with that of the Gold Order.
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>>140912725
Pretty based original personality. Alchemist who cheated and rused people.(I think he paid for a ship with a chest full of gold coins that turned back into lead a few hours after he was gone).

After that he's just a generally ambitious powerful wizard with a solid gold body or stuck on armour or something he got after an experiment fucked up.
He's quite productive and a positive force in the Empire, even if he tries to further himself where he can he's not ambitious to an obnoxious degree and actually lives up to his responsibility as chief wizardlad of the Empire.
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>>140863318
Empire and High Elves are my equal favorites, with Dark Elves being a close-ish third.
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>>140906614
at some point they're bound to bring out a heroes of legend pack with Gotrex, Felix etc etc
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>>140912467
>Henrich
>Undead units regenerate HP

Will this be useful enough to build around?
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>>140913153
I'd like to hope so but honestly I doubt it, it would be too OP if they made the regeneration rate anything substantial.

Also this may be lore autism kicking in but why does his perk say Necrarch?

Heinrich Kemmler is most definitively NOT a Necrarch nor is he even a vampire for that matter.

>pic related
This is a motherfucking Necrarch.
Why didn't they just call the perk Lichemaster? That is his title anyways and the one people talk about in hushed tones when worrying about his potential arrival to their peaceful towns.

Considering they got the Lore of Vampires and Lore of Death right for the VC Lords from the Table Top rules despite how they could've obviously mixed it up it is surprising to see them make such an obvious mistake.
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So, which of the newer total wars would you recommend for a person who only played Medieval?
Or better else, which one would i have the most fun on a campaign
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>>140913545
Probably Shogun 2
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>>140913545
Medieval 1 or 2?

First Rome and Medieval 2 are good. Good mods for both.

Shogun 2 is probably the best of the series.

For shootan TW Napoopan or Fall of the Samurai.

Attila has a boring setting but is pretty good otherwise.
Rome 2 has a good setting but is pretty mediocre otherwise.
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>>140913664
medieval 2.
I just wanted to play one of the better modern ones since i got a new computer and am actually able to play them maxed out now
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>>140913545
Do you want to ease yourself back in with rock, paper, scissors style gameplay?

Go for Shogun 2.

Do you want access to a wide diversity of factions with some very different rosters that make for unique match-ups and battles?

Go Rome 2.

Do you want the most mechanically refined game with the most up to date albeit difficult gameplay?

Go Attila.
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>>140912467

How much hair gel do you think Ungrim goes through every day to keep his sick mohawk?
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>>140913545
Depends on what you want to get out of it. Empire allows you to have colonies in india and america, shogun 2 has the realm divide end game as a kickass conclusion, in attila you can play as rome and try to keep it all together, and so on.
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>>140913917
I think they say it's pig fat somewhere in the lore.

>>140912845
Thyrus probably just let that pussy win. Or else he got tricked somehow, rather than beaten. I want a fire wizard LL.
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>>140909673
>inb4 radious adds vampire crossbowmen, dwarf griffon riders and chaos longbowmen
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>>140914218
>dwarf griffon riders
yes please
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>>140914094
Wasn't Thyrus the one they used for Supreme Patriarch in Warhammer Online?

I think I remember it being a Bright Wizard in the main wizard's tower in Altdorf.

I think Thyrus is neat but I wish he had more lore, it seems like they are much more committed to fleshing out Balthasar as a character.
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>>140911235

Rome 2 looks like shit and runs like a paraplegic snail compared to the silky smooth beauty of Shogun 2.
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Based Muslim removers

These units with chainmain and gamberson give that medieval 2 feel

Medieval 3 total war when?
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Fuck, I really wanted to max out the graphics too. Not sure if I should buy a card from the new series or wait for the 980 ti to go down a bit in price.

>>140904775
You should be fine for med settings, no?
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>>140914616
That padded gamberson looks really a e s t h e t i c
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>>140914605
>naginatas
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>>140914573
He wasn't the supreme patriarch, just the most senior wizard you got to see, because only bright wizards were playable.
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>>140914616
>Kiteshields
>Chainmail
>Graves and Gambersons

yeah, ik what you mean. That DLC does give it a really medieval total war feel
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>>140908291

>It's a sandbox game that takes place outside of time.

Oh for fuck's sake, why do I have to paste this quote in EVERY. FUCKING. THREAD.

>Our game's very much based in the age of Karl Franz, which is 2502 [when] he became the emperor. That's pretty much where we're staying. 8th edition, so to speak."
-Andy Hall, Lead writer on Total War: Warhammer
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>>140914616

Love Charlemagne's unit cards desu.
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>>140912774
It's just a description difference, both of their purple suns do the same thing
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>>140913462
I think they're using the word necrarch more as a title than what vampire bloodline he's from.

Like a play on words of "Monarch", but a lord of death rather than a kingdom.
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>>140914616
That the Sebidee unit pack?
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>>140914945
Fair enough, this makes it more acceptable albeit disappointing in the sense that it means Azhag and Mannfred have two identical traits/perks, 3 if you consider the flying mounts equivalent.

I'm hoping they won't recycle the traits/perks too heavily.
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>>140915092

>disappointing in the sense that it means Azhag and Mannfred have two identical traits/perks

Every Wizard that casts spells from the Lore of Death gets access to the same spells you know.
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>>140915092
I guess they can't make everything unique, especially with three 30 level skill trees for every agent, lord and Legendary Lord.
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>>140915012
I guess, but that kind of play on words would be better served in a world where that specific phrase didn't already exist and have meaning.

It would be like if they named the undead dragons of the VC's the Blood Dragons. It is just kind of creating confusion where there doesn't need to be any.
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>>140847568
roll
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>>140915079
No

it's Dark Age: Charlemagne, 'Age of Vikings' and AoC 97 unit pack

Sidbee's mod is glitched in the campaign, so you can't create armies if you want to play the Asturias (The one true Muslim remover faction)
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>>140915197
That's true, i'm guessing they wanted to sneak in a reference but ended up just being retarded.
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>>140915267
I think that is a very real possibility.
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>Play any Germanic faction in Atilla
>Doing pretty well, unifying Germany slowly
>Literally cannot appease the Danes, all they want is to murder and pillagr
>Nearly impossible to get to their shit hole island and destroy them for good without a very concentrated effort
>Meanwhile the Huns are slowly knocking on my door

I haven't had a single campaign where the Danes aren't my undoing by being a constant Northern Front. How do I deal with these savages on ships?
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>>140847590
How do you change your advisor? he looks pretty rad.
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>>140863318
Wood Elves are the best faction because of comfy hikki feyfolk isolationism and elegance.

Bretonnia is pretty good too because muh elan and hopelessly outmoded feudal state railing against modernity and succeeding.

Skellies are pretty cool too.
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>>140915582
Get other savages on ships to do it for you, namely the Geats.
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>>140863318

Dwarfs and greenskins. Dwarfen stubbornness meets orcish savagery. Unstoppable force meets an immovable object. That it all happens inside massive caverns and rugged mountain ranges just adds to the charm.
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>>140915965

I wish they'd just go back to the blood spatters of Medieval 2. Blood and gore DLC is just way too overdone. Fucking fountain of blood as soon as you get stabbed with a spear. It's silly.
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>>140916035
>Unstoppable force meets an immovable object
I honestly don't see the problem with this scenario. Obviously the unstoppable force would simply move the rest of the world instead of the anchored immovable object.
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Hey /TWG/ I'm having problems in total war medieval 2, I'm finding that my pike men drop their pikes and switch to their short swords stupid fast. They kill whoever charged them and then pop. They all draw their swords. Does anyone else have this problem ? Is there away to fix this ?

The best I could come up with was putting a unit juuuust in front of the pikes. So that the pikes pass the unit, and the second unit acts as a buffer.

I mean it works but it takes up much needed men for my flanks. Anyone got a better way around ?
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>>140916147
Well, Shogun 2's was especially ridiculous. They really went for that Japanese anime/manga feel.

Rome 2 and Attila's are fine imo.
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>>140914634
How do you run Attila?
You will run Warhammer a bit better.

upgrading to a 4gb gpu shouldn't be too expensive and is probably the place to upgrade your setup. Though I guess that's said there.
I got a 4gb 960 for fairly cheap recently, upgrading from my old 500 series something, after the 1000 series hits it should be even cheaper. Don't know if you're on a specific budget or are looking to futureproof, that'd be different obviously.

>>140916467
I think brutal martial arts films would be the the inspiration rather than chinese cartoons.

>>140916413
M2 Pikes have always been garbage.
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>>140916413
It's a bug in the vanilla game that has never been fixed. However, it's fixed in basically all mods and in the kingdom expansions.
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>>140916570
See that's the thing. When they actually work...THEY WORK HARD, I just have problems getting them to work reliably
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>>140914616
read that as "Based Muslim revolvers"
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>>140907612
Still alive? I can play with you in some hours
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>>140912467
archaon the ever-edge desu, I dont know jackshit about warhammer so my first time I'll just raze hovels
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So is there any way to counter the "out of favour" trait in Attila?
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>when you command missile superiority and retreat after the skirmish phase
Is there a better feeling
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>>140917449

Out of Favour is gained by fucking up political shit or entering a town with negative public order. Favoured is gained by entering a town with positive public order. Something like a 5% of happening though.
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>>140917549
crushing skirmishers with cavalery
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>>140917549
Forgot pic
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>>140917449

Move your general to high public order city until it gets removed
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>Game is released 3 weeks from today.
>Chaos Warriors campaign playthrough is likely this week
>BotET will be released within the next 2 weeks.

Warhammer hype overload.
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>>140917449
If you're Honorius it's hardcoded to give him the worst traits in the game so you can't btw
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I want to complete the game as Goths. The plan is to pack my shit and head west until I find a cozy place in Roman territory to settle.
Will that even work or will the massive recolonize costs screw me over? I remember from my Langobards game what a pain it is to take roman settlements.
And the most important question of all:
Visigoths or Ostrogoths?
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>>140917668
The fuck are you plating as?The North Pole?
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>>140917857

Visigoths obviously
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>>140917857
The Goths start out already packed you know.
Ostrogoths imo are a lot easier because you can actually get Roman testudo infantry after stealing their settlements.
>>140917992
FotE + EP Danes.
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>>140918093
Hold on, you can use Roman buildings as goths?
Only Ostrogoths?
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What are you playing to keep yourself busy until TW:W?

Vermintide for me.
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Why are Attila and Rome 2 so fucking tedious to play? How do you guys extract fun out of this shit? No, I'm serious. Battles feel like a chore and it takes billions of years to build up an army or a settlement, only to get to spend the next ten turns maneuvering around the map to get in a good position because making one mistake will lead to armies appearing out of nowhere and invalidating all your work.
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>Dane
>Just want to play my native faction in AoC
>Absolutely hate everything about their playstyle and the objectives they're expected to complete early-game

Suffering.

I just want to Canute
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>>140918392
imma make my own game.
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>>140918161
You can recriut from roman if you're the Ostrogoths
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>>140918161
Yeah, Roman settlements let you recruit their main line units and if they have the recruit fields I think you can use those too
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>>140918416
200 years too early m8
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>>140918402
Sounds like you want something more casual
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>>140918416
Try being one of those few assholes who don't have your native faction in most of the games and in Rome and Rome 2 they're a pile of shit.
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>>140918402
This applies to all Total Wars though.
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I need a new monitor.

Is a 144hz overkill?
My current monitor is an old 21.5' 60hz 5ms with the old school VGA. To fit my graphics card(GTX 980) I have to use a connector and the interference between digital and analog signals are causing massive fuzzy lines across the monitor.

I'm looking at a 27 inch 144hz Red Eagle. I know I won't be able to use the Freesync(as its AMD tech) but I'm just wondering with monitors like that, Is the Refresh rate able to be locked at 60,75,120 and 144? Or would I bet better getting a pure digital 27 inch 60-75hz one?
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>>140917765
>faggots still unironically expect a chaos campaign video

Tip
Top
Kek
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>>140918630

I don't agree with most of what he said, but I will say that I think the settlement management in Attila is much too finicky and tedious.

Maybe if there was some depth to it that would make up for the amount of time you need to put into it, but it manages to be both too shallow to be satisfying and too vital to avoid sinking time into.
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>>140918690

>Is a 144hz overkill?

For fuck's sake yes.

There's barely ever a reason to be on the cutting edge of tech unless you have money flowing out of your butthole to the point where it literally isn't a consideration.

144hz is a meme.
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>>140918630
No, I want Medieval 2+.
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>>140864086
Grimgors armies were beaten on a few occasions, he fought Crom to a standstill in personal combat, but his army collased
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>>140918416
>Native faction
In Medieval 2: Cordoba
In Rome 2:Carthago Nova
In Attila : Rome
AoC: Cordoba again

Mehhhhh even in Rome 2 period we were romans.
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>>140918931
You sure?I think you'd enjoy something like Grand Ages Rome or The Guild more
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>>140918667
Who are they? Greeks?
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>>140919178
Greeks are, if anything, over-represented.

No, it's Dacians/Romanian principalities. Feel free to laugh.
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>>140919271

I'm very sorry.
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>>140919271
Gaeti are pretty good in DeI
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ostro or visi and why.
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>>140919383
Visi
Alaric
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>>140919330
I'm used to it.

>>140919383
Ostrogoths have access to roman units and no instability when conquering roman cities but Visigoths have siege weapons from the start and a leader who doesn't look like a neckbeard in pajamas.
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>>140919383

Ostro because they have the superior gameplay experience

Visi because they're based as hell and didn't get fucked up the bum-bum by Belisarius
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>>140917856
he is only hardcoded to have indecisive attacker and out of favour, the rest of his traits can be all positive
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>>140918667
I dont understand people obsessed with playing as their own nation, maybe its because the place I am from has never been in any strategy game and never will be, but I just dont understand that need to play as your people, isnt it boring, especially if you are say the english who always have extremely easy campaigns in whatever title they are present?
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>>140919927
Because it's an extension of the innate civic pride in your people's history and nation and you want to see "your guys" do well. It's seeing the body that you identified with and have been surrounded by since birth succeed, or to recreate the tales that you've been told since day 1.

Also, I'm not obsessed, but I'd like to be able to play as "my guys" at least once.
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>>140920162
>>140919927
>tfw you have no sense of nationalism because you were plucked from your place of birth old enough to know what is, but too young to have any feelings of attachment towards it - nor do you feel anything similar towards your new "home"
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>>140920281

>tfw you have no sense of nationalism because you're not actually an idiot that feels a sense of attachment out of the fact he was born inside the same imaginary borders or a loser that has nothing but take on the achievements of his peers or people from hundreds of years ago because they were born in said borders
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>>140920162
>the innate civic pride in your people's history and nation and you want to see "your guys" do well
fair enough

>>140920281
this is how I feel, I moved around a lot when I was a kid, so I never made any sentimental connections to a place
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>>140919271

CA gives Greeks such preferential treatment and they still whine and whine.

They are playable in Rome 2, when they were nothing more than very, very minor players under the boot of the Romans or Macedonians

The Attila has Latin and Greek Christianity, which makes no sense whatsoever
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>>140920372
At least you feel like you belong somewhere man.
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>>140918690
just do what i do and use a 40inch tv, most have decent refresh rate now and ive never had any problems visually
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>>140920372

>"Muh individualism"
>"Anyone with any sense of group identity or who can understand the nature of a shared cultural experience is a dumb sheep"

*tip*

>Borders are imaginary

That's my favorite meme.

Why don't you go on and tell me about how culture is imaginary too.
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>>140919927

>I dont understand people obsessed with playing as their own nation

Well I can understand a certain attachment, but it's not worth much more than a novelty playthrough. Once you get done with that you might as well just play whoever.

Then again that might just be because my nation of birth didn't exist until a few hundred years ago and the closest thing to that I can get is Celts in any era that most historical strategy games take place in.

>>140920372

>no respect for family
>no respect for ancestors
>no respect for nation

Haha you're a faggot.
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>>140920630

>Sharing a culture makes everything I mentioned untrue

Alright lad
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>>140920486

Modern Greeks are 100% scum.

The world would be substantially improved if the entire Peloponnese was drowned in the Mediterranean.
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>>140920162

It might be the phenomenon of us burgers that makes us more willing and eager to slip into someone else's shoes. I'm a european mutt like most Americans but my best documented ancestry is Scottish yet I have little real interest in playing them or their ilk - in a medieval period I might be more amenable because they get fun units but I have no strong innate affinity for them. Likewise for when burgers are playable - I almost preferred playing the nips in Rising storm because it was a fun change of pace gameplay wise and if we got a Victoria:TW unless I could play as the confederacy I wouldn't be keen to play as America compared to Britain, France or Russia.

>>140920486

Was egregious to have Athens and Sparta and not the Aetolians and Achaeans. Fucking 300ophiles have done to Sparta what weebs did to the Japanese.
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>>140920630

>Culture

Then why Nationalism? The whole west shares a culture.
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>>140920486
Rome 2 might as well have been called The Greekening: Born to Debnt.

And then there was DeI, which has no less than three separate greek civilizations and each had over three greek playable factions. Seriously, why the fuck do they need to make the colonies playable?

>>140920372
That's dumb. If you ever felt pride in your family, or your football team, or anything that you felt you belonged to, then the pride in your country is the same but on a bigger scale. Plus, national unity and cohesion leads to prosperity and advancement.
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>>140920705

List of things that are imaginary:

Borders
Laws
Governments
Authority
Respect
Language
Currency
Culture
Science
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>>140920860

>The whole west shares a culture

You cannot seriously believe this.
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>>140920864

>Plus, national unity and cohesion leads to prosperity and advancement.

Do you have a single argument to back that up? The Italian city states were the richest in europe, some richer than kingdoms.

Also feeling pride in your country is what a weakling with no achievements of his own feels, the people that say shit like "Leonardo Da Vinci was Italian!" all prideful make me want to vomit
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>>140920860

>The English and the Danes and the Italians have the same culture

That's as fucking retarded as claiming that China and Japan share the same culture.
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>>140920860
>The whole west shares a culture.
"no"

Only non-countries like Belgium or the tax evasion states like Lux. and co. have an "european" monoculture. Everyone else has their own culture. France and Britain are nothing alike, same for Netherlands and Germany. Spain and Portugal also, despite the memes. Even Scotland, which has been part of the UK for centuries, has a different culture and national identity than the southerners below.
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>>140920989

You are wrong, every country in the west shares the same cultural basis estabilished by the French revolution.

Some might have adopted them later than others but they do.
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>>140920989

Not even Belgium really believes in the European mono-culture

The Flemish and the Walloons fucking despise each other, much more than even separate and oft antagonistic nations like France and Britain do.

Despite having been crammed together in a meme-country they clearly demonstrate that they do not share the same culture.
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>>140921068
overarching civilization values =/ culture
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>tfw AoCs tme period, settlement mechanics and general gameplay feeling is so much better than Attila
>tfw it's scale is so small it's not really fun

The suffering
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>>140920979
The italian city-states each had their own different culture and dialect and identified with themselves and worked for themselves. Plus, they were rich because of a really good geographic position and because they mastered the jew game. However, it did not save them in the end. Their golden age didn't last as long as people think, and by the late 1400's the entirety of Italy was a ravaged shithole because of all their civil wars and french and austrian invasions, and also because they used mercenaries, which were easily bought by the enemy forces, instead of home-grown patriotic soldiers, like Machiavelli said they should.

>Also feeling pride in your country is what a weakling with no achievements of his own feels, the people that say shit like "Leonardo Da Vinci was Italian!" all prideful make me want to vomit

t. new worlder millenial

Civic pride in your tribe's image leads to culture and success and, for us shitholes in parts of europe that were not blessed with good geographical positions, it helped us survive in the face of invasions.

>>140921068
>every country in the west shares the same cultural basis estabilished by the French revolution.

The UK, Spain and Netherlands are a monarchy, and the Prussian-built Germany tried to distance itself as much as possible from the shitshow that was Revolutionary France.

Just because there's a standardized set of rules, laws and a shared history doesn't mean that there's one mono "western european" culture. Culture is an iceberg. The parts that you see are the songs and clothes, but the unseen part, which is larger and deeper, is how people react to life and every country in the west has their own people, ideology and reaction to life.
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>>140921068

>Two sandwiches are the same because they both have butter on them
>It doesn't matter that they don't have the same toppings or even use the same kind of bread, they both use butter that means they're the same

That's essentially the argument you're making.

Most European cultures share certain traits, something which is obvious to anyone and which no one here has denied.

That doesn't mean they're the SAME culture, they're radically different.
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>>140921325

You're off by some 200 years
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>>140920979
>Also feeling pride in your country is what a weakling with no achievements of his own feels
You can easily admire the greatness of people who came before you while having your own achievements. In fact, I'd say that people who have their own achievements are more likely to fully appreciate the achievements of great men and occasional women.
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>>140920979

>Do you have a single argument to back that up?

The United States of America used its national unity, cohesion, prosperity, and advancement to create a weapon capable of obliterating millions of people. In doing so they ended a World War and prevented another, redefining the concept of war itself in the process. That a good enough argument for you?

>The Italian city states were the richest in europe, some richer than kingdoms.

Until they were crushed by the French. Whoops.
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>>140921372

Let me ask you a question then, have you EVER travelled in the west? Have you ever gone to another western country and said to yourself "I do not fit here" for anything other than the language barrier?

I'll answer it for you, no, because every western country share the same cultural traits, you go to Japan or China you'll get mean looks for doing shit you're not even aware of is agasint the local culture.
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>>140920979

>Do you have a single argument to back that up?

http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/

Cultural diversity does a lot of harm to social cohesion and civil life because people who don't feel like they share anything in common with the people around them don't feel inclined to help those people

>a massive new study, based on detailed interviews of nearly 30,000 people across America, has concluded just the opposite. Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam -- famous for "Bowling Alone," his 2000 book on declining civic engagement -- has found that the greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote and the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity and work on community projects. In the most diverse communities, neighbors trust one another about half as much as they do in the most homogenous settings. The study, the largest ever on civic engagement in America, found that virtually all measures of civic health are lower in more diverse settings.
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I sense a shitstorm.
>>140921508
The open-handed 'hi' sign is an insult in some nations and a casual greeting in others.
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>>140921487
>The United States of America used its national unity, cohesion, prosperity, and advancement to create a weapon capable of obliterating millions of people. In doing so they ended a World War and prevented another, redefining the concept of war itself in the process. That a good enough argument for you?
you forgot
>by importing european scientists
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>>140921525

That's a strawman, cultural diversity has nothing to do with nationalism, it just means there is no cohesion, there can be cohesion without feeling a false sense of pride for the achievements of people that have nothing to do with you other than being born in the same borders.
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>>140921508
>move from home country at age of 8
>be in new country for a decade
>fit in with no one, feel close to no one, want to kill self

Pretty sure I don't fit in here
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>>140921508
>Let me ask you a question then, have you EVER travelled in the west?
Have you?

It's not a question about you fit in it, it's about how people go through life. Hell, there's differences of cultures even within the countries themselves. Going from north to south Italy is like entering an entirely new country.
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>>140921601

>cultural diversity has nothing to do with nationalism

Are you pretending to be retarded?

The nation state is THE primary cultural unit.
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>>140921610

You can't give a reason as to why? What's to say it's not just because you're a loner?
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>>140920243
She's pretty quick to judge for someone that has to use that much eyeliner.
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>>140921583

Is that supposed to be relevant?
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>>140921508

>I'll answer it for you, no

Thank you for presuming to know my experiences.

But as someone who has, in fact, traveled quite widely in Europe I can tell you with absolute certainty that the cultural values differ wildly from place to place, all the way down to some behaviors being acceptable in one place and deeply looked down upon in another.

The only thing you've proven is that you haven't traveled for shit.
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>>140921672

How the hell are the two even related? Cultural cohesion and not being a nationalistic loser are not mutually exclusive.
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>>140921759

>How the hell are the two even related?
>How are culture and nations related?
>HOW ARE CULTURE AND NATIONS RELATED

I don't fucking even.

Are you real?

Am I talking to an actual human being here?
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>>140921754

Can you give any examples of cultural barriers you've met?
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>>140921759
>nationalistic loser
Nationalism and blind nationalistic pride are different. You can feel pride for "your" people without thinking that your people are literally infallible or that they achieved everything of note in the world.
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>>140921759
>Nationalistic loser
Back to r/totalwar

Nationalism has existed and has been considered a good thing since Tacitus and Patriotism since Plato.
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>>140921827

Jesus christ again replying while evading the question?

Explain how cultural cohesion and nationalism are correlated, one is a demographic aspect and the other is a political movement, a nation can have cultural cohesion without its citizens being nationalists, yours is nothing more than a false comparison.

>>140921858

Nationalism is nothing more than a udder losers attach themselves to, the achievements of others are not for you to feel pride in, you had no part in the inventions of great men of the past for example, the things you've achieved, if you have any are your own.

It makes me cringe every time I hear "we won the gold medal" no you asshat you won nothing, the person that dedicated his whole life to a sport won the medal, not your sorry ass.
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>>140921296

>Nobody taking up the mantle to convert it over to the grand campaign
>All those total conversion plans besides the medieval ones are inevitably DOA
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>>140921682
Okay. I come from the UK where people actually say please and thank you, have manners and are generally polite - Spanish (even worse, Mallorcan) people are incredibly self centred, impolite and have a chip on their shoulder for foreigners taking their best lands (up until the end of the dictatorship father's gave their preferred sons the fertile, inland possessions whilst the infertile, "useless" lands went to the others - all the values changed when tourism exploded). I went from having friends and being interested in school to being that "foreign" kid, even though both of our countries are in the EU and part of "western" society.
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Can you guys go somewhere else to carry out this retarded argument?
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>>140922025
"We" is not synonymous with "I". The whole point of nationalism is that when you speak of 'us' it doesn't refer to a group of people but rather the nation itself.
"We" won the gold medal, as in the Russian / American / British / Chinese / whatever people won the gold medal. What's wrong with this statement? Nobody will claim that they themselves won that medal.
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>>140921831
Not him, but I can give an example in table manners. In France, when people are talking and socializing during a meal, it means they're having a good time, while in norway, talking while eating is considered disrespectful and the implication is that the food isn't good. The british and americans drink wine to get hammered while in france it's considered foodstuff.

Or, if you want something more generalized, I can point to social behavior. People in northern countries tend to keep a respectful distance from eachother while in France or Italy or Spain, there's a lot of hugging and body movement between even acquiescent. Stuff like kissing a girl you don't know or even a man on the cheek is unthinkable in some countries while in, for example, mine it's par of the course when meeting someone that you at least know their name of.
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>>140922190

>What's wrong with this statement?

Already said what's wrong
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>>140917549
Did you just retreat off the battlefield and lose nothing? Shit I have try playing guerrilla warfare style.
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>>140922025

>udder

Well done.

>the achievements of others are not for you to feel pride in

I always get a kick out of people like you. Sometimes I wonder if you realize that your achievements exist only as an extension of the achievements of your ancestors and your countrymen. Your entire life is dictated by their accomplishments and goals. To feel proud of them is to feel proud of yourself, but you just don't seem to understand this concept.
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>>140922025
>Nationalism is nothing more than a udder losers attach themselves to, the achievements of others are not for you to feel pride in, you had no part in the inventions of great men of the past for example, the things you've achieved, if you have any are your own.
That's your opinion, which is different from what it actually is. Nationalism is having pride in what your country and your people achieved, not saying that you yourself achieved it, which is KINGZ N SHIET delusions. Try not being american, thanks.
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What do you guys think about Total War: Kingdom, the mobile game
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>>140922290

>I always get a kick out of people like you.

I don't really care

>Sometimes I wonder if you realize that your achievements exist only as an extension of the achievements of your ancestors and your countrymen.

Eh?

>Your entire life is dictated by their accomplishments and goals.

Hahaha what the fuck is this shit, no my life is not dictated by dead people.

>To feel proud of them is to feel proud of yourself

To feel proud of them is to admit I've achieved nothing and I need to attach myself to the achievements of dead people I had no part in.
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>>140922281
Yeah, it's also broken as shit for Huns because you can just fire off your volleys and leave.
>>140922273
Nobody has ever achieved anything without the men and women who came before them. To feel nationalistic pride is to feel that your ancestors and 'cousins' were great men, that your cultural kin achieved something memorable. Nobody is claiming that you achieved it yourself.
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>>140918690
Yeah defo overkill it only comes into effect aswell if *every* game you have on your system runs at 100fps plus and even with a GTX980,i7 4790k and 16gigs of RAM(my system) that won't happen on current games only on older ones. I'd stick with a 60-75hz and make sure its a DVI-D connection. Also make sure the response time is 1ms not 5ms. You'll see a big difference in how it "feels". So a 27 or 28 inch monitor at 60-75hz and 1ms with full digital connection will feel amazing to you. The lower the ms in a monitor the better.
Plus 60-75hz are about £110-300 cheaper than 144hz depending on brand in the UK. Don't forget the higher the refresh rate the more work goes into the GPU causing higher temps in your system. Obviously you don't have to listen to me but just my two pennies.

The only reason to get 144hz is if you're an elitist PC gamer that wants uptodate expensive stuff with minimal gains constantly even if that stuff is rarely utilised and will lead to huge price drops in the near future anyway.
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>>140922397
>To feel proud of them is to admit I've achieved nothing and I need to attach myself to the achievements of dead people I had no part in.

But that's WRONG you fucking retard. Being proud in your ancestors and your people doesn't mean that you no longer are able to create anything. Nationalism means fighting for "your team". It's an extension of tribalism or an extension of taking care of your family and being proud when a cousin or a brother achieves something, even if you didn't help him. You can just identify with their successes while you yourself have none, but that just makes you a weenie and doesn't invalidate that people who felt pride in their countries haven't achieved stuff. The biggest argument to your stupid shit are romans, who were decisively patriotic and nationalistic and succeeded because they had a national cohesion, based on pride in the tales of their city's ancestry and foundation.
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>>140922397
>Hahaha what the fuck is this shit, no my life is not dictated by dead people.
Literally every part of your life, you owe to those who came before you.
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>>140921831

One that always comes to mind is the approach to car traffic.

Where I'm from in Northern European traffic fatalities are pretty low and it is considered very rude to honk in traffic unless absolutely necessary.

Meanwhile in Rome has the highest traffic number of traffic fatalities out of any European city, road rage is incredibly common and it is all a giant clusterfuck of speeding mopeds and cars weaving in and out between each other like a fucking drag race.

>>140922025

Christ, I can smell the smug, 16 year old pseudo-intellectualism coming off of you through the fucking internet.

>Explain how cultural cohesion and nationalism are correlated

Because the culture of the nation is THE primary shared cultural experience, people in the same nation have a vested interest in the values, behavior and accomplishments of each other.

I can't tell if you're just pretending or if you actually don't understand how culture works.

The entire reason the EU is diminishing in popularity is because people in the prosperous nations that contribute monetarily feel like they are being taken advantage of by people they don't share anything with. Despite the fact that most of these people have no problems contributing towards the welfare systems in their own countries which provides benefits to individuals in their own nations that they don't technically know or are required to care about, they're still happy to help them because they feel that those are "their" people, they have a bond with them despite not knowing them.
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>>140918715
>yfw its today.
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>>140922397

>I don't really care

I don't care that you don't care. Guess that means we're square.

>Eh?

If you have difficulty understanding what I said then you are functionally retarded.

>Hahaha what the fuck is this shit, no my life is not dictated by dead people.

Everything you do is dictated by dead people. To deny that is to deny the very concept of Cause and Effect. Your life is a series of events that stem from the consequences of other peoples' decisions.

>To feel proud of them is to admit I've achieved nothing and I need to attach myself to the achievements of dead people I had no part in.

You're spending your time on 4chan arguing with people over nationalism. You have achieved nothing and chances are pretty good you never will.
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>>140922397

>I don't really care

No, it is quite clear that you don't mind embarrassing yourself.

>Eh?

On point as always.

>Hahaha what the fuck is this shit, no my life is not dictated by dead people.

You seriously HAVE to be pretending at this point.

You might as well claim that your life isn't a result of your parents fucking.

>To feel proud of them is to admit I've achieved nothing and I need to attach myself to the achievements of dead people I had no part in.

Your life must be empty as shit.
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>>140922397
Jesus fucking christ I can literally smell the smug sense of superiority wafting off your post.
ANYTHING you achieve was made possible by your ancestors and the achievements of your ancestors (and other people too). You made a big new invention? Guess what, you owe it to the giants you stood on. Created a piece of literature? Guess what, you owe it to the hundreds of great writers that came before you, the men who step by step created the computer, the people who brought paper to the West, etc.
>To feel proud of them is to admit I've achieved nothing and I need to attach myself to the achievements of dead people I had no part in.
Or it means that you can feel proud for those related to you even if you didn't have a part in their accomplishments. If your brother suddenly won the Nobel prize you'd definitely feel proud for him, even if you know jack all about the paper he wrote.
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>>140922340

>Mobile games

What is even the point.
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>>140922578

No correlation with the argument, the guy said it's dictated, it's not.

>>140922570

Also no correlation, You may be able to create something, doesn't mean it's right to appropriate the achievement of others.

>>140922445

>Nobody has ever achieved anything without the men and women who came before them.

So? How does it make it fine to attach yourself to said men and women?

>>140922814

Jesus this entire post has not a single argument in it

>>140922692

>You have achieved nothing and chances are pretty good you never will.

So now you've devolved to assumptions and name calling? Great argument bud
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>>140923004

>So now you've devolved to assumptions and name calling?

Whereas you've devolved to red herrings and strawmen. Great argument fag.
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>>140922193
This is a great example, table and social manners are one of the first examples, along with hygiene and the like. As a quick example, in germany you don't try to use another man's cigarette to light your own because that's considered literally gay.
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>>140922948

>ANYTHING you achieve was made possible by your ancestors and the achievements of your ancestors (and other people too).

So? Doesn't make it right to attach yourself to their achievements

Is arguing things I never argued about a prerogative of this thread or do you people seriously believe you're actually arguing the point?

Maybe I should put a fictional strawman so you can guys argue with it about things I never talked about in an attempt to come up with a retort.
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>>140922445
>Yeah, it's also broken as shit for Huns because you can just fire off your volleys and leave.
God i want this to work in Shogun 2. Guerrilla warfare monks mmmm yes
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>>140923004

Oh well, looks like we've reached the point where your only recourse is to stick your fingers in your ears and pretend to not understand the words people are saying.

It was fun.
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>>140923004
Good game lad
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>>140923054

From my very first post I haven't changed my argument once, instead all the replies have been nothing but false comparisons with no correlation or arguing shit I never said.

>>140923137

Oh no, I've given reason why the argument don't stand in my post.
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>>140923052
I saw this in the news today. Greeks had the freshies memse.
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>>140922961
Can't bring a pc everywhere
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>>140923004
>appropriate the achievement of others
Dude I bet you think that the wife of a war hero isn't allowed to say 'my husband is a hero you know' or that the son of a literary genius isn't allowed to say 'dad is an amazing writer'
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>>140923004
>doesn't mean it's right to appropriate the achievement of others.
Who said anything about appropriating? It's not "I've done this."

I feel pride that I owe my existence and the existence of my state because centuries ago my ancestors defeated a superior force through guile, but that doesn't mean I think that I was literally a soldier taking part in the battle.

You're like a dumb shit fedoracore atheist that goes "DUDE GOD IS DUMB LMAO" and thinks that life and the world is just black and white, and misses the subtleties and nuances of the situation and doesn't pay attention to the context. If you think Nationalism is just dumb kids arguing on forums then you're not as smart as you think you are.
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This general is hilarious, they make fun of Greeks and Turks for being nationalist shits and then propagate the same retarded logic of "Alexander was Greek therefore I have a big dick" no you faggots, you had no part in what the people of the past, or the people you're currently living with in the same country you are, have achieved and no amount of strawman will change that.

You want to feel pride? Do something.
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>>140923052
>skellington
>bee
Sounds like a trap!
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>>140923180

>From my very first post I haven't changed my argument once

Not something to be proud of since your original argument is a non-sequitur. You just keep asserting it no matter how many logically valid counter-arguments get tossed your way. That just means you lack the cognitive capacity to back up your original assertion with new arguments. You clearly have a difficult time understanding how a debate works.
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>>140923180

>From my very first post I haven't changed my argument once

Neither has anyone else.

But for some reason, despite it being explained over and over, you persist in this delusion that nationalistic pride is the same as taking credit for an achievement.
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>>140923268

>Who said anything about appropriating? It's not "I've done this."

But it literally is? You see it every day, in this very thread whenever someone attaches himself to somebody like a parasite because of their nationality.
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>>140923280
>my dad was someone cool
>I'm not allowed to be proud of my dad
No you goddamn idiot, it's not 'I literally did this', it's 'my ancestors did this'. What the fuck is wrong with it? We make fun of Greeks for literally clinging to it with no other accomplishments and pretending they're STILL big dicks, and we make fun of Turks for claiming achievements that aren't even real (just like WEWUZ).
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>>140923280
>Do something
But that's hard
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>>140923378
It literally isn't and you're an idiot. Good job being an useful idiot, jackass.
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>>140923348

Maybe someone should argue why it is ok to feel pride on the achievements of others based on nationality instead of coming up with shit no one was arguing about and making false assumptions?
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>tfw it will be months or a year before we get to unite Elfdom
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>>140923280

>This fucking baby continually bleat out the same sentence over and over, thinking it will someone become less retarded through repetition.
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>>140923378
This argument only stands if the guy says HAHA MY ANCESTORS WERE BYZANTINES THEY WUZ COOL AND SHIT while being a shitty homeless beggar, it's like you think having achievement and being proud of your ancestors are mutually exclusive
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>>140923280
No, we make fun of greeks because they still pretend they're great and we make fun of turks because they say shit like "Attila, Genghis Khan and Alexander the Great were turks".
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>>140923503
noob
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>>140923459
We've been saying it the whole fucking time though. Nobody is pretending they're the ones who did it, they simply feel pride for their entire unit. Why CAN'T you root for your city's football team? Same shit.
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>>140923515

There's no correlation between the two, one could be the richest man on the planet, he still would have no claim to the achievements of the byzantines.

You know, this whole general basically boils down to a big daddy's boy, daddy paved the road for you, gave you all your money, the company and whatever the fuck and you're the one taking the compliments for being a successful man.
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>>140923459
>Maybe someone should argue why it is ok to feel pride on the achievements of others based on nationality

Well I guess since you're blind I'll make you a list:

>>140922190
>>140922290
>>140922293
>>140922445
>>140922570
>>140922692
>>140922948

Every single one of these posts has a logically valid reason for people to feel pride of the achievements of others based on nationality. If you want to ignore them then that's your problem.
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>>140923707

>Every single one of these posts

I've replied to

>has a logically valid reason

lol, maybe read the replies?
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>>140923758
>lol, maybe read the replies?

Repeating the same shit you said when they replied to you in the first place isn't an argument. It's ignoring their arguments.
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>>140923613
No, it's daddy's a big boy, daddy paved the roads, daddy gave a lot of people money, and my family is the one taking the compliments. Try arguing against that.
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>>140923280

Greeks are made fun of because they wallow in their own shit, blaming everyone else for everything that goes wrong and clinging vainly onto the past while their country sinks into ruin.

There are plenty of countries with strong nationalistic sentiment that still manage to actually run a functioning state.

These things are not mutually exclusive no matter how much you pretend they are.
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>>140923503
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>>140923821
>my family is the one taking the compliments. Try arguing against that.
But it's not the family taking compliments. It's him. and nationalism is feeling pride that he's your daddy and trying to uphold/continue his legacy.

Like I said before, you think that things are just black and white and miss the nuances.

Are there people who take pride in their nation's achievements but have done nothing themselves?
Yes.

Does taking pride in your nation's achievements means that you'll never amount to anything and that you can just rest on "your laurels"?

No.
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>>140923613
But that's fucking wrong. Nationalism is pride in your nation, not pride in yourself, it's in the fucking name: NATIONALism.
It's not that my ancestors and men of my nation did something and I'M taking credit - it's that my ancestors and men of my nation did something and the NATION is being praised, ALONGSIDE the original achiever.
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>>140923963
>But it's not the family taking compliments. It's him. and nationalism is feeling pride that he's your daddy and trying to uphold/continue his legacy.
You need to read the post more carefully, because I'm on your side and arguing against the single dude who's raising hell.
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>>140921718
yes it is you burgerizing retard.
American society didn't create the atomic bomb, an international group of scientists did.
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>>140923974

>Nationalism is pride in your nation, not pride in yourself, it's in the fucking name: NATIONALism.

And?

>It's not that my ancestors and men of my nation did something and I'M taking credit

That's a noble sentiment, something that doesn't apply to everyone that claims such things

>>140923820

>Repeating the same shit you said

Maybe someone should come up with an actual argument that argues what I said and not go rogue and make ridiculous assumptions about manifest destiny from dead people, that post made me legit laugh
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>>140847796
>>140847568
Dobel robel
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>>140924153
>That's a noble sentiment, something that doesn't apply to everyone that claims such things
Now you're moving the goalposts, because you've lost the argument that Nationalism is in and of itself a bad thing and are now trying to push that some people who are nationalistic are also losers which is true of any group you pick unless that group is 'people who aren't losers'.
>And?
And that means that all of your complaints about people pretending that the achievements of others are achievements that they should be proud of go down the drain, because they aren't proud of themselves - they're proud of their nation.
Good game lad.
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>>140924153

>Maybe someone should come up with an actual argument that argues what I said

So how exactly is pointing out that your life is a consequence of the decisions of the millions of dead ancestors and countrymen that came before you "[going] rogue and [making] ridiculous assumptions"?

I'll save you the time: It's not that at all. You're intentionally ignoring perfectly reasonable arguments because you're a dipshit.
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Realism in Attila on or off? I kinda want the immersion but I think the game will become really hard then
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>>140924153
>moving goalposts
What a pathetic ending desu
>>140924376
I'm pretty sure you can turn down battle difficulty and still have realism on, just get used to no minimap if you actually use it (I don't so it never mattered for me)
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>>140924376
If you want immersion, you don't play Warscape games.
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wut
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>>140847796
Sinki sinki
Darin Darin
Rolypoly
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>>140924478
That site is complete bullshit, don't use it. I've seen it rate a 880M over a 780ti.
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>>140924536
I figured as much but to think it would rate an obvious upgrade like that lower is pretty retarded
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>>140924274

>Now you're moving the goalposts

No I'm saying your definition of nationalism is not the one that applies to all.

I can say that I'm a cosmopolitan and I support that all niggers should be deported, doesn't mean I'm a cosmopolitan if I go against my ideology.

>And that means that all of your complaints about people pretending that the achievements of others are achievements that they should be proud of go down the drain

How? You've just said what nationalism is lol, I don't even understand why you mentioned it in the first place, that's why "and?"

So, and?

>So how exactly is pointing out that your life is a consequence of the decisions of the millions of dead ancestors and countrymen that came before you "[going] rogue and [making] ridiculous assumptions"?

Because it is a ridiculous assumption, since my life is not dictated by dead people and it has nothing to do with appropriating achievements of other people based on nationality, therefore going rogue, hope that clears that up.
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>>140847568
дэ пюль
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>>140923867
Welfare and the standards of living in Greece are already a lot worse than countries like France and Germany, the Nazi occupation butchered tens of thousands of civilians and completely plundered their gold reserve and now they are forced into action over refugees and then criticised even tohugh it harms them more than anyone because of the damage to tourism. Fuck off if you choose to be clueless about these things but don't expect Greeks to ignore the damage that the rest of Europe has inflicted.
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>>140924636

>since my life is not dictated by dead people
>hope that clears that up.

Saying that is not a refutation. It's a baseless denial. Your life is and always will be 100% dictated by the decisions of those who have come before you. Denying a fact without backing up your denial with reasoning is not an argument. You are the textbook definition of illogical.
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>>140924636
>I'm saying your definition of nationalism is not the one that applies to all.
Are you telling me that the definition of a word changes in accordance to your arbitrary lines? Nationalism is literally defined as pride in your nation and the accomplishments of that nation, full stop. It has nothing to do with pride in yourself, someone can be a total wreck in self-esteem and still be militantly nationalistic and someone can be self-confident, even arrogant, with not the slightest hint of nationalistic pride.
>I don't even understand why you mentioned it in the first place, that's why "and?"
Because the idea is that if the pride you're talking about doesn't fit in the frame of that definition it by definition is not nationalism. You can complain about Greeks pretending they're a big deal because they used to be a big deal 2000-1000 years ago, and you can complain about WEWUZ pretending they were ever of note and somehow this notability extends directly to their present selves, but that's not nationalism by fucking definition.
>last quote
Nationalism is not, by definition, appropriating achievements of others based on nationality, culture, or anything else. This isn't up for argument, it's defined.
>since my life is not dictated by dead people
Yes, it is. Your educational system, environment of growth, exposure to ideas, ideals, and histories, your religious background, the food you eat, the computers you use, the phone you bought, everything there is owed to people who came before you.
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post spurdo
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>>140924810
>the Nazi occupation butchered tens of thousands of civilians and completely plundered their gold reserve
They did that to a lot of nations, but most of them do not attempt to justify their current shithood by blaming everyone else except themselves and refusing to own up to the literal fact that they're at least partially responsible for not cleaning up the shithole. Poland and other slavnations suffered arguably more.
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>>140924810

>Literally no one pays any taxes
>National economy goes in the toilet
>"HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED! IT MUST BE THE NAZIS!"
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>>140925037
Superior meme coming through
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>>140925037
Gondola > spurdo
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>>140924841

>Your life is and always will be 100% dictated by the decisions of those who have come before you.

No it's not and you saying it doesn't suddenly make it true, every decision I've made was my own.

> Denying a fact without backing up your denial

Ok this is getting ridiculous, your opinions on destiny are not a fact and don't apply to other people, stop being a child.

>>140924957

>Are you telling me that the definition of a word changes in accordance to your arbitrary lines?

Funny, that was my argument

>Nationalism is literally defined as pride in your nation and the accomplishments of that nation, full stop.

Which is fucking pathetic and my whole argument, few things are more sad thant this, if someone came up to me and said "we won the gold medal" it would tell me pretty much everything I need to know about him, that he's a loser with no achievements of his own.

>Nationalism is not, by definition, appropriating achievements of others based on nationality, culture, or anything else. This isn't up for argument, it's defined.

Feeling all prideful because of the achievements of others simply because they share your nationality is a big part of nationalism.

>Yes, it is. Your educational system, environment of growth, exposure to ideas, ideals, and histories, your religious background, the food you eat, the computers you use, the phone you bought, everything there is owed to people who came before you

And yet this is all irrelevant because I make my own decision and because I'm now arguing something that has nothing to do with my point of being a pathetic leech that feeds on the achievements of others, you two are dragging me in another argument with your bullshit view of destiny.
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>>140923503
Return of Reckoning? :)
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>>140924636

>I'm saying your definition of nationalism is not the one that applies to all.

Oh, so you're saying that because you've redefined Nationalism to mean something that lets you feel superior to people around you that means that your skewed definition is the one that other people actually go by?
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>>140925235

fug yuo gondola
spurdo >>>>>>>>>< gondola :DDDDDD
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>>140925235
>>140925274
Wew
>>140925279
>literally everything in this post
So you're saying you literally redefined nationalism to fit your ridiculous nonsensical argument? Wew fucking lad, I didn't think you actually went and did it
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>>140925337

>Oh, so you're saying that because you've redefined Nationalism

Uh, no. I'm saying it because he was redefining nationalism with "It's not that my ancestors and men of my nation did something and I'M taking credit" which is untrue, since that is a big part of nationalism.

Pay attention.
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>>140925279

>No it's not and you saying it doesn't suddenly make it true

Yes it is true, and you saying it's not doesn't make you right. Try to find one action you've taken in life that isn't influenced by that of human beings that existed before you. Laws, Schools, Civilization, Tools, and even the Language you speak are inventions of human beings that are dead and gone. The very thoughts in your head are dictated by dead humans. You can not refute this statement. It is an objective fact.

>every decision I've made was my own.

Spoken like someone who has never read anything about Determinism. You're a fool.
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>>140925440

>Uh, no. I'm saying it because he was redefining nationalism

No faggot, this ENTIRE argument exists because you're using a definition of Nationalism that no one else uses.
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Dwarfs master race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r0_evhiEGM
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>>140925493

Taking pride in the achievements of others because of the fact they share your nationality is a big part of nationalism, if you want to argue otherwhise, give a reason and stop dragging me in bullshit arguments.
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>>140925440
>>140925576
Oxford dictionary.
nationalism
Pronunciation: /ˈnaʃ(ə)n(ə)lJz(ə)m/
noun [mass noun]
1. Patriotic feeling, principles, or efforts
Where patriotism is defined as
patriotism
Pronunciation: /ˈpeJtrJətJz(ə)m/
noun [mass noun]
The quality of being patriotic; vigorous support for one’s country
>vigorous support for ones country
See how personal pride in yourself is nowhere mentioned, yet support for your nation at large IS mentioned.
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>>140925487

>Yes it is true

No it's not.

See I can do it too!
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>>140925681

Whereas you don't have any reasoning or logic to back up your statement. You ignore everyone else's reasoning and logic only to keep asserting your own retarded ideas. This is what's called a "logic fallacy" and it lets everybody know just how retarded you really are.
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>>140925656
>since that is a big part of nationalism
>is a big part of nationalism

Lol, good thing no one was arguing what the literal definition of nationalism is, now stop dragging me in other arguments, PLEASE and argue why taking achievements you had no part in is not fucking pathetic.
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>>140925769

Yes it's true is not an argument.
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>>140919927
>>140920401
this guy here, I am sorry I derailed the thread into this shitposting
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>>140925681
>fails to argue against the rest of the post
Mate even /b/ argues on a higher level than you.
Also, from Wikipedia's article on Nationalism
>Nationalism is a shared group feeling in the significance of a geographical and sometimes demographic region seeking independence for its culture and/or ethnicity that holds that group together. This can be expressed as a belief or political ideology that involves an individual identifying with or becoming attached to one's nation. Nationalism involves national identity...
>national identity
>>140925773
>moving goalposts this fucking far
But you fucking imbecile, your original statement was not that taking pride in achievements of others was pathetic, but that nationalism implies that and is therefore pathetic.
Look here >>140920372 - you imply that a nationalistic person is "an idiot that feels a sense of attachment out of the fact he was born inside the same imaginary borders or a loser that has nothing but take on the achievements of his peers or people from hundreds of years ago because they were born in said borders"
Can I get a 'blown the fuck out' from the crowd
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>>140925865

Taking four words out of a larger post and claiming that it's the entire argument is what's referred to as a "Strawman Fallacy." Congratulations you're retarded.
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>>140925894
Don't mind it, this always happens at least once a thread.
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no news today either? wahtdafuck?
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>>140925897

>moving goalposts this fucking far

You stole my words

>But you fucking imbecile, your original statement was not that taking pride in achievements of others was pathetic, but that nationalism implies that and is therefore pathetic.

But Nationalism does imply that? You are aware that the dictionary definition does not entail all the aspects of a political movement? Saying otherwise would be like denying that the very Nazi movement that was entirely based on such examples was not nationalistic.

Also name calling and telling yourself "blown the fuck out" can this get any more pathetic?
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>>140925342
Listen up fucktard, Gondola does NOT speak spurde

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/gondola

>It was meant to be a new and less aggressive version of Spurdo who doesn’t speak Spurdish

>There are many images in which Gondola is mistakenly speaking Spurdish, even though he is supposed to be a silent character.

So please, for the sake of everyone in this thread, dont post memes you dont know about. Thanks.
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>>140925897

>an idiot that feels a sense of attachment out of the fact he was born inside the same imaginary borders or a loser that has nothing but take on the achievements of his peers or people from hundreds of years ago because they were born in said borders

Well that's true.
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>>140925576

>Taking pride in the achievements of others because of the fact they share your nationality is a big part of nationalism

And here we go again.

Listen faggot, your attempts to deliberately misconstrue the statements and intentions of other people in order to fuel your sophomoric superiority complex have no bearing on anything, least of all the definition of Nationalism
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>>140926129
Fingers crossed for chaos campaign walthrough. Probably wont be though because they don't something big to be overshadowed by their DoW announcement or vice versa.
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>>140926113
>know your meme
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>>140926129
New unit icons!
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>>140926192

Lots of buzzwords for no argument
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>>140926271

The only buzzword in that entire post is "sophomoric"
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>>140926090
>but nationalism does imply that?
No, it does not. Nationalism is by definition pride in your country, not pride in yourself. You cannot argue against the definition of a word. The Nazi movement was highly nationalistic in its origin, hence why you can't separate it.
It is pride in NATIONAL, as opposed to PERSONAL, identity.
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>>140926113
>less aggressive
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>>140926338

>No, it does not.
>Nationalism is by definition pride in your country

Thank you for proving my point.
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>>140926315
'Faggot' is too technically, since we don't know if he's gay.
>>140926090
You're changing the goddamn definition of nationalism to fit your own argument. Both wikipedia and the goddamn Oxford Dictionary disagree with you, you'll have to find some mighty convincing citations that Nationalism implies personal pride in the achievements of others if you want any ground.
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Just shut the fuck up already
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>>140926338
>Nationalism is by definition pride in your country

Which is the whole argument, taking pride in your country is taking pride in the achievements of other people simply because they are from your country, hence it's pathetic because it's not taking pride in your own achievements but leeching from someone else simply because he's from your country.

>>140926495

No you just posted a dictionary definition that doesn't entail all its aspects (just look at the above post) and now have fallen back to it as your refuge to avoid arguing how, taking the achievements of someone simply because you were born in the same borders, is not pathetic.
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>>140926506
Just let go man
Play a campaign while the thread slowly goes to shit
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>>140926271

>no argument

Can you not read?

The argument is that you have created a false definition of Nationalism inside your own head as a way to feel superior to those around you, and as a result you deliberately twist the words and intentions of other people in order to make them fit that definition.
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Dow3 announced

https://youtu.be/N_ZgyNoHtjw
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>>140926639

>>140926603

The fact that you are even trying to argue that nationalism doesn't entail taking pride in the achievements of others because they are from the same argument is mindblowingly stupid
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>>140926230
CA don't do DoW that's Relic a different company.
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>>140926639
I'm not paying any attention to the actual argument but nationalism isn't a proper noun buddy.
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>>140926603
>taking pride in your country is taking pride in the achievements of other people simply because they are from your country, hence it's pathetic because it's not taking pride in your own achievements but leeching from someone else simply because he's from your country.
But it isn't fucking personal pride and it isn't pretending that you actually accomplished something, it's a pride in a group you identify with. Is it pathetic that Charlemagne was proud of the Frankish People or that Augustus was proud of the Roman state?
> taking the achievements of someone simply because you were born in the same borders, is not pathetic.
>taking
But this is the problem you blind moron, nobody is TAKING the achievements of someone else. If you think that your brother was a cool person does this mean you've taken his achievements? No, it's admiration for him.
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>>140926738

>"I'm a giant fucking retard and I cannot separate personal and collective identity"
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>>140926769
They are both a part of Sega though.
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>>140926835

> it's a pride in a group you identify with

And it's pathetic

>>140926841

>collective identity

Collective identity based on being born in the same fucking borders is pathetic as is pride in it.
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>>140926738
>I am John Mason, son of George Mason and Alice Woodwright
>I am also an Englishman
>I am also a fan of [x] football team
>I also am part of /twg/
You see how these are four separate identities?
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>>140926717
Oh shit there are titans motherfucker

Base game looks like orks, muhreens and eldar

I know its not total war but these autists shitting the thread are way worse
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>>140926717
orks announced.

Well my faction is in. Also what a time to be alive for us, warhammer lovers
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>>140927016

>Titans

Fucking dropped, apocalypse is the cancer of 40k
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>>140926925
>Collective identity based on being born in the same fucking borders is pathetic as is pride in it
Unfortunately collective identity is just pathetic in general then. Please report back when you've accomplished much of note and we can all be pathetic and be proud of the fact that someone on /twg/ made it big and steal and take your accomplishments for ourselves.
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>>140926925

And now we've officially reached the

>Opinions

Segment of the argument.

>Collective identity based on being born in the same fucking borders is pathetic as is pride in it.

Nope, also you're probably an anti-social turd.

Collective identity and cultural cohesion are probably beneficial to society.

>inb4 you go back to pretending that nations aren't the primary cultural unit and that national identity has nothing to do with culture.
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>>140927053
Knights aren't titans
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>>140927060

>Please report back when you've accomplished much of note and we can all be pathetic and be proud of the fact that someone on /twg/ made it big and steal and take your accomplishments for ourselves.

I'm glad you finally see my point.
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>>140927053
It's an rts, it'll work
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>leave 4chan for 3 days
>come back
>oh boy can't wait to talk about total war -
>see a shitstorm about nationalism or something right off the bat
Calm the fuck down you whores
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IT JUST KEEPS INCREASING IN USERS.

FUCKING COCKTEASES.
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Valar morghulis, brothers.
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>>140927118

>Nope, also you're probably an anti-social turd.

The refuge of someone who has no good argument, name calling and assumptions.

>Collective identity and cultural cohesion are probably beneficial to society.

I didn't say that, I said collective identity based on being born in the same borders, I don't know if there is a form of good collective identity, but that ones is particularly pathetic.

>are probably beneficial to society.

Which has nothing to do with pride in others achievement being born in the same borders is pathetic

>inb4 you go back to pretending that nations aren't the primary cultural unit and that national identity has nothing to do with culture.

When did I ever argue about this bullshit argument, I don't give a fuck about such a thing why would I even argue about it? Have you moved the goalposts so much you don't even remember what we argued about?
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>>140927273

Two weeks before release youtube is going to be flooded with lets plays
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>>140927473
I said calm down you little slut.
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>>140927473

>The refuge of someone who has no good argument, name calling and assumptions.

There is no argument anymore bruv.

At this point it is literally just you stating your opinion that a certain behavior is "Pathetic" and me saying "No it isn't"

There can be no argument here.
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>>140926717

>That 2deep4me trailer

The fuck is this
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>>140927473
>The refuge of someone who has no good argument, name calling and assumptions.

Whereas you've completely stopped replying to people who have succinctly blown you the fuck out. What does that say about you?
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>>140927273
>40 CA members peak connected to steam playing it.
>It was just 9 all time peak last Monday.

Wew lad. We're getting close.
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>>140927660
pretty sure it's reviewers
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>>140927652

>Telling himself he has blown me the fuck out

Holy fuck this is too pathetic you can't make this up
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>>140927806
Calm the fuck down you cockhungry whore
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Chaos preorder DLC for DoWII confirmed holy shit what have CA done?
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>>140927887

Chaos wasn't even a launch faction of DoW 2
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>>140927887
What because you didn't see them in the trailer? You know DoW2 only had SMs and Eldar in the trailer right? Despite that it launched with several other factions
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>>140927473

>Which has nothing to do with pride in others achievement being born in the same borders is pathetic

Collective identity necessitates collective pride and cultural identity necessitates cultural pride.

Since the nation is the primary cultural unit cultural pride and national pride are largely synonymous.

Cultural pride is beneficial, thus national pride is beneficial

You keep using this bizarre "born within the same borders" shit as if you think you can distract from the issue by using different words.

Being born in the same nations means that you share cultural roots with that people, to be born into a nation is the inherit the cultural identity of that nation.

You're attempting to conflate the physical and arbitrary nature of borders with the sociological concept of national identity in order to make national identity seem meaningless. Unfortunately I wasn't born yesterday and anyone with eyes can see through your weasel words.
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>>140927273

Yeah no shit, that's because CA realizes they've gotten enough bad press that they need to whore themselves to LPers.

>>140927806

Oh I get it, you have a learning disability that makes it difficult for you to read. Okay I'll go ahead and stop replying to you since you're mentally retarded.
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>>140927979
You too lad, calm down.
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>>140927979

Now explain to me in detail, how anything you have said has anything to do with the fact that you, as an individual born inside some borders, taking pride of something else someone else did simply because he was also born inside your borders and leeching off his success as if you had any part in it, is not pathetic.
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>>140927273
Reviewers and youtubers
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>>140928115
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>>140928115

>"If I repeat the same sentence over and over and over again then maybe my opponent will get tired of my endless bleating and give you."

You win.

I'm done.
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>DoW3 announced
>cum hard
>"screenshots" shown
>die inside
I don't know what to feel anymore. At least TW:WH will be good, r-right lads?
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>>140926717

Is it me or that trailer felt kinda artsy?
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>>140928115

>Now explain to me in detail

People have done this for you over a dozen times. You refuse to listen.
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>>140928462

>You win.

Well I already knew that.

>>140928547

>People have done this for you over a dozen times.

I wish.
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>>140927956
>>140927940
you read the steam page specifying only orks, eldar and space marines are playable right? Fucking retards.
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If a man strikes you on the right cheek etc. etc.
Stop replying
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>>140928475

Looks like the DoW 2 engine, also where is that pic from?
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>>140928475
Holy shit that looks rad.

Truly, the golden age of Warhammer vidya is upon us. What a time to be alive.
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Was Pontus important at all in history?
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>>140928661
DoW1 had a single campaign. You're the fucking retard looking for something to whine about.
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>>140928726
>>140928729
It's part of some screenshots PCG released with the announcement.
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>>140928701
I want to fuck Christ-Chan.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/285190/

Fug
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>>140928916
Does she even have a hole down there
>>140928754
Sort of, they had a few wars against Rome and iirc they revolted once at a critical time (don't remember when)
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>>140928509
You're not wrong, it's not nearly as punchy as the previous ones but thats fine.

Have to wonder what the pilling bodies are supposed to mean. I kind of get the feeling it could have some significance to Chaos, maybe.
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>>140927956

From the steam page

>Step into a brutal battle between three warring factions
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>>140929127
>Have to wonder what the pilling bodies are supposed to mean

Skull throne
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>>140929127
Chaos isn't even in the game
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>>140928509

A tad

>>140929195

Pre-order dlc :^)
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>>140928784
What the fuck does that have to do with you assuming there'd be more factions on launch and not checking your facts before making false statements? Fucking autists ITT.
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>>140929343
I'm sure they will be dlc but I kinda doubt they will be preorder
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Spot the 2017 game!
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>>140929347
Because DoW1 had several more factions despite only having a campaign for SMs?
>calling other people autists when you're this retarded
Fucking embarassing, holy shit.
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The designers talk about Dawn of War 3 armies in terms of line and elite units. Line units deliver continuous damage and try not to die; elite units deliver decisive strikes. Certain combinations of elite units will suit rush strategies, others will be more powerful lategame options. For example, returning Space Marine hero Gabriel Angelos is a close combat master that gives you a lot of power right away, so you might want to give another slot to a late-game ranged monster like the Imperial Knight.

You have three elite slots, which must be assigned before each battle. They are designed to let you define your play style, and to support a variety of strategies for each race. In the single player campaign you collect a wide range of elites that can be levelled up—an attempt to emulate the pleasure of collecting and building armies in the tabletop game. Elites can be individual heroes, crack units such as Assault Terminators, or super units.

For multiplayer, inspired by Dota's hero selection phase, Relic designers are considering an element of pick and counter-pick to the pre-battle screen, though they're yet to show exactly how this will work.

For Warhammer fans, units shown included Tactical Marines (with optional plasma weapon/flamethrower upgrades), Devastator Squads with lascannons, Dreadnoughts, Assault Marines, Gabriel Angelos, the Imperial Knight. On the Eldar side there were Guardians, Howling Banshees, Wraithguard, Falcons and Jetbikes. Unit upgrades give these line squads some tactical variation. Plasma weapons allow Tactical Marines to do more damage when stationary, but they they take the flamethrower instead they can lock down territory with fiery area-of-effect damage.

>For multiplayer, inspired by Dota's hero selection phase

It's ogre
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>>140929470
>DoW1

DoW1 had at launch: SM, Eldar, Orks and Chaos. 4 Factions.

DoW2 at launch had: Tyranids, Eldar, SM, Orks.

4 factions
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>>140928475
>"We want the starcraft II audience"
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>>140929730
Yeah and? You're even contradicting your own argument of MUH 3 FACTIONS. Just stop posting, you got BTFO.
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>>140929835
I'm not even the same person.
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Why don't you go make a warhammer general?there's enough games released/upcoming for one
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>>140929678
Damn that's bad news. Can't say I'm disappointed, didn't expect it to be similar to DoW I anyway.
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>>140930007
Yeah! lets go back to arguing over nationalism, so much better!
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>we want the iPhone audience
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>>140930090

>As in previous games, you build power generators and capture requisition points in the field to acquire resources.
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>>140930142

Fucking hell, please tell me that this is some pre-alpha shit.
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Now its total war related too

>>140930207
obviously its pre-alpha, today was the first release trailer ever
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>>140930118
Honestly though, the wholesale discussion of an entirely different franchise doesn't really belong in /twg/. Neither does shitstorming, but nobody liked that either.
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>>140930257

>today was the first release trailer ever

Well I mean, there have been cases where games have been announced very close to their release before

You never know
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>>140930259
CA themselves posted about this, pretty sure we can survive a day of somewhat unrelated discussion.
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>>140929470
Its embarassing being incapable of reading a fucking steam page you autist fuck.
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>>140930257
Where did this come from?
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What funny is that DoW3 doesnt shy away from violence and even embraces it as shown in the trailer (decapitation, blood gushes from orks cutting SMs, etc)

Whereas CA keeps going on with muh pg13 rating, even if it is a fantasy game, just to justify releasing the 'blood and gore' dlc later.

Fucking gay, I'm telling you.
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>>140928475
at least Dire Avengers are finally in. It always triggered my autism that DOW lacked the most generic aspect warrior.
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>>140930460
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>>140930142
holy shit blunder of the century confirmed. Compare this to the Warhammer:tw trailer.
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>>140930569

FOTE?
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>>140928475
>That looks like a lane

I fucking swear to god if they turn this into some kind of fucking MOBA...
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>>140926717
ELDARS MY DICK IS NOW DIAMOND
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TyNgl7S35Y

Can't for this to come out later in the week!

:^)
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>>140930617
Yep
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>>140927473
>Pathetic
>Pathetic
>Pathetic
>S-stop calling me names you meanie
Gas yourself
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>>140930601

I wonder where that statue of Sigmar will be in TWW
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>>140926717
Macha is confirmed as the Eldar leader

/tg/ will love this
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>>140927262
To be fair it's only been going no this this thread so far.

So you've not missed out anything major just a few dick heads being themself.
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>>140928475
>>140928909


Seems pretty cool to me. I hope they upscale the size of the battles a bit, perhaps make it a bit more strategic than tactical.
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>>140930601
you can tell the whole studio is in high spirits and really aching to shit out more content for the game, all thats holding it back from becoming GOTYAY is Sega
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As much as im enjoying this DoW discussion.

Lets get back on topic, can I win this fight /twg/ ?
Im sallying forth, since it has 0 turns till surrender, bastard ai wouldnt launch an attack.

I've already lost 3 times I cant even get a cheese tactic to work.
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>>140931035
You got this, senpai.
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>>140931035
How are you losing though?
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>>140931035
That doesn't look hard at all to be honest. You've got an advantage in range and enough spears to hold off his cavalry while you use your own inferior cav better than the AI can.

Why are you asking us if you can beat an AI army thats almost exactly equivalent to yours? The player can usually beat army half again his size going up against the AI.
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>>140930470
Keep buying that $1.99 blood DLC, anon!
You know you want to.
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>>140930928
>ultimate apocalypse in dow3
hype
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>>140930601

POTTERY
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>>140931295
I dunno, a few years ago I could have done this with ease, maybe im just shit now

My men just seem to lose all morale the instant they charge, one unit routs then bam everyone's gone.
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>>140930634
Like some DoW1 maps didn't have them
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Daily reminder that the Axumite empire was as powerful as Persia Rome and China

http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/12/05/7-midieval-african-kingdoms/
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>>140931830
>midieval
tells you all you need to know desu
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So why is everyone convinced the Dwarves are going to be so boring to play?
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>>140931830
>Join us in our effort to change our world with Empowering Narratives. Share this empowering narrative on your social network of choice and ask others to do the same.
>At its height, [the axumite empire] was one of only four major international superpowers of its day along with Persia, Rome and China. Axum controlled northern Ethiopia, Eritrea, northern Sudan, southern Egypt, Djibouti, Western Yemen, and southern Saudi Arabia, totaling 1.25 million square kilometers, almost half the size of India
>Ghana was also a great military power. According to one narrative, the king had at his command 200,000 warriors and an additional 40,000 archers.
Ebin
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>>140931991
No one is. Everyone knows mowing down gobbos with flamethrowers is going to be pretty sweet.
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>>140931991

I don't think they will be boring to play, I just find them kinda boring conceptually.

Well, "Boring" isn't accurate.

More like "Least interesting"
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>>140931991

>dwarves

Dwarfs*
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>>140931830
>>140932141
>axum controlled everything
>literally a middleman that grew off the trade between gupta india and rome
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>>140931830
>midival

WE
KANGZ
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>>140931991
Not a lot of micro required. They are the, "just set it and forget it" faction.
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>>140931991
No cav, no mobility. Mobility is good

I suppose if you liked the Norse factions in Attila you'll like dwarves.
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>>140932447

It's going to be a real bitch to answer to threats from more mobile armies or running down fleeing units with the lack of cavalry.
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>>140931991
No cavalry, no big monsters, no magic

Only tough stunties and technology somewhat inferior to the empire
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>>140932141
>200,000 warriors and 40,000 archers
Leaving aside the inevitable inflation of numbers, that's not even that impressive.
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>>140932573
Imagine if we had a horse archer faction in warhammer
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>>140932141
>afrocentrists are just black slavposters

It all makes sense
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>>140932589

>no magic

Well to be fair we don't know how Runesmiths will work
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>>140932717
And no, bretonnian bow yeomen dont count
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>>140932717
Ranged infantry are the counter to skrimisher cav, so they should be fine as long as they have ammo.
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>>140931991
they won't be boring. They'll be one of the funniest factions to play with gyro Bombers and heavy artillery.
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>>140932813
Not like you can't spam skirmisher cav with several factions already
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>>140931991

Stationary faction
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>>140932878
>several faction

Only empire so far
Then bretonnia when they get playable
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>>140932589

>technology somewhat inferior to the empire

I don't get this meme. Empire technology is impressive, but most, if not all, is based on what the dwarfs taught them. Dwarfs still have superior artillery. They got fucking gyrocopters.
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>>140931991

It seems like the Dwarfs are a majorly defense focused faction who kinda get fucked when they need to go on the offensive.

Hopefully their arty is sufficiently long ranged that you can force the opponent to come to you.
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>>140932939
The gyrocopters are a point for dorfs
But empire artillery is just as good and they also got tanks
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>>140932878
I'll be spamming these as Empire.
Still waiting for tactical withdrawal, CA. ;-;
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>>140931991
I don't think anyone thinks that they're going to be boring to play.
I think everyone thinks Warhammer Dwarves are a stupid shit boring faction.

We need a new thread by the way.
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>>140932938
Goblin spider-rider archers
Bret Yeomen
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>>140932573
>>140932569
Yeah mobility is going to be a pain in the ass. It's why you bring the artillery. But your units aren't just "set it and forget it". Looks like everything either has a shield or a great-weapon, so you have to manage your flanks and make hammer/anvil pairs of units.
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>>140932717
Wood Elves can come really close. They have horse archers in core and can fill it out with warhawk riders with bows, a ranged lord on a dragon, and spellcaster jav-cav for texture.
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>>140932938

Spider riders are skirmisher cav bro, and pretty good in melee too.
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>>140933068
Oh yeah, gobbos, forgot them
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>>140932995
You're only fucked on offense if you're vulnerable to missiles. Dwarfs aren't vulnerable to missiles so they can just walk up to the enemy
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What's the Pontus of TWW?
>>
>>140932762
>>140932762
Can take a pretty good guess that they'll buff other units and have that campaign ability the orc shaman had but instead to sap all the widns of magic in an area.

>>140932589
The technology looks better than the Empire. Watch the Empire vs Dwarfs vs chaos playthroughs those cannon and gyrobombers do much more damage than Empire rockets or hellblasters.
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>>140933036

>they also got tanks

I'll concede that. But for the dwarfs' defense, every dwarf is a tank in his own right. I'm looking at you, ironbreakers.
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>>140929343
Is that ornstein?
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>>140933130

>Dwarfs aren't vulnerable to missiles

The only faction that doesn't have good options for armor piercing missiles are the orcs.
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>>140932762
If it's like the tabletop they give nearby units flaming/magical attacks and can dispel enemy magic.
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>>140933152
Chaos dwarfs
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>>140933190
It looks like it has tits
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>>140933225
VC don't have any missiles.
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>>140933245
Nah, chaos dwarfs are the sillykids because people want them to be in. Pontus is a faction no one would expect.
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>>140933164

Are there any pics of ingame Ironbreakers?
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>>140933382
>implying anyone here unironically expect chaos dorfs
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>>140933382
Amazons instead of Lizardmen.
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>>140933426

I think I saw a shitty glimpse in the latest Chaos vs. Dwarfs videos. I'm fairly sure they're there.
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>>140933257
It does look that way.
It does have tits.
It's a howling banshee.
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>>140933382

Amazons?
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>>140928115
>all these unsuccessful roaches getting butthurt because you called them out
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>>140933382
Then the Pontus of TW:WH would be Araby
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>>140933310

For some reason I forgot they existed.

Anyway, my point is that I don't really see that the Dwarfs are particularly resilient to missile fire if the opponent actually has it. Empire has plenty of ranged options that should shred Dwarfs pretty good.
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>>140933481
There you go.
The very hypothetical mention of it occuring makes my blood boil.

We really need a new thread lads. I'm too lazy.
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>>140933426

I think you see them in the Dwarfs vs Greenskins tunnel battle.
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>>140933654
Its gonna be pagoda edition again wont it?
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>>140933540
>attempting to revive a dead shitstorm
No.
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>>140933731
I live to make /pol/acks angry anon
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>>140933704

I can't see them in the unit tab
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>>140933801
Then go to /gsg/
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Yeah I don't see them in the tab, these are longbeards I think

I WANT TO SEE IRONBREAKERS REEE

Are they supposed to be the tankiest unit in Warhams?
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>>140933875
I've done it so much there they just ignore me now
If I go to /pol/ itself they just make roundabout and circular arguments while spouting memes
where is an anon to go?
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>>140933714
Who the fuck cares.

>>140933801
>I deliberately piss on the floor in public restrooms to make the place even more dirty
Wow very good work
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Aksum was the greatest African/Arabian kingdom. FACT.
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>>140933992
Hell, maybe.
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>>140933989
>tankiest unit not the literal tank
cum on anon you silly goose
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>>140933992

Try the bottom of a lake.
>>
Where's the new thread tho, it's page 10 time
>>140934012
>Aksum was the greatest African/Arabian kingdom. FACT.
You're probably not wrong, seeing as most if not all of them were absolute garbage.
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New

>>140934324
>>140934324
>>140934324
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>>140934171
>>140934063
Off we go then
Reminder that /pol/ is the greatest example of Poe's Law on the internet and that nobody actually took it seriously
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>>140934010
You sound perturbed desu
Not even him
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>>140854434
Because I hate managing public order
>>
Just discovered the Age of Vikings mod.
I AM SO ROCK HARD RIGHT NOW YESSSSS.
See you guys in a few days.
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