/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

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first for no anime

nth for Anduin best boy.

>>140777721
>>140777801
No wonder he won't come back to PoE. He's making 7 figures here.

nth for pls vote for science

http://www.strawpoll.me/10105542

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>>140778036

who /N'zoth Pally/ here?

>>140778189

>limiting my choice to one deck

nigga the meta shifts like every 4 ranks.

im climbing with at least 4 different decks.

>>140778189
Divine Shield Paladin. I've been running this shit for years and it's better than ever.

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>>140777657
I have a lot of fun with this deck in standard. It feels like mech mage. Cheap spells are used to control the board, minions deal the bulk of damage. I'm thinking about swapping Thalnos for another Cult Sorcerer and one Conjurer for second Cabalist's Tome or Arcane Blast.

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>>140778295

Well met!

>flamewakers effect can no longer hit the same target twice
y/n?

>>140778386
>>140778295
Man, this expansion seems like the king of big, fun minions. It's a shame I can't afford any of them.

>>140777801
>except he doesnt drink orange juice on stream anymore

Why doesn't he?

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xth for Spellslinger

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Ideas on how to improve this guys? Seems ok but match-ups varies a LOT.

>>140778391
>can't hit face or clear big minions
Dead card

>>140778531
it's worth it. I was lucky to pull 2 twilight summoners, and crafted Rag and N'zoth and Forbidden Healings with Nerf Dust. Had the rest of the stuff from playing for the past year. This game rewards you for toughing it out and sticking with it even if you don't start with very much.

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>>140778189
Am I the only one playing C'thun mage?

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>check the game since it got some neat update
>end up confused as fuck when starting to do a deck for standard

My goal when playing hearthstone is to make my opponent hate playing against me (e.g. secret paladin)

Which standard decks currently accomplish that the best?

>>140778734
Raptor and N'zoth don't belong in the same deck. Raptor encourages you to play lots of small deathrattle minions to copy them on curve in a tempo/value style deck, while n'zoth is a control finisher that really only rewards you for running a handful of big deathrattle effects like sylvanas/cairne/summoner

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>>140777657
I love Crystal Maiden!

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So does Warrior have the most viable decks right now?

>Control
>Reno
>Patron
>Dragon
>Pirate
>Raging Worgen OTK
>Tempo/Midrange

>>140778593
I dunno, I just haven't seen him do it, it used to be a stream meme

>>140778971
face shaman or zoolock

>>140778747
good

>>140778971
Control Paladin/Healadin

I still haven't beaten anyone without them not conceding

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fuk what do i do with this

>Play a deck
>Have one good game.
>All of a sudden, matched against all my counters forever
>Repeat ad nauseum as I switch decks.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>Priests
>not conceding instantly vs paladin

PSA to all priests, this right here is what all paladin vs priest games look like, do me and yourself a favour and just fuck off and concede so i can play agains't people who arent a 100% win rates

you are just a waste of time as a class.

>>140779225
time to adapt m8

>>140778189
>no C'thun rouge

pfft. I still need to play it more until rank 5 to see if its actually good.

>>140779321

APPARENTLY YOU HAVE THE READING COMPREHENSION OF A SYRIAN REFUGEE BECAUSE YOU MISSED THE PART WHERE I SWITCH DECKS

>>140778189
cant vote. im not climbing

>>140778918
>Not playing Yogg-C'thun mage
get on my level son

>>140779380
that's your problem m8. All decks are going to lose some percentage of games do to rng or variance or whatever, so you just have to accept those losses and keep going. Blaming it on the deck and switching every time you lose is just going to make things worse because each deck has a different mindset and playstyle that you need to have, so switching a lot without changing the way you think about playing will cause you to lose even more. It's also possible you may just need to git gud

>>140779380
you gotta stay even more ahead by countering the counter to your decks lul

>>140779285
This

Also we heal more than priests now lmao

priests getting cucked by holy paladins just like in WoW

it never ends

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Someone help me out with this piece of shit.

I loved midrange hunter pre-standard, but this new flavor seems pretty trashy, at least with my current list.

The minions are alright but I find Im usually sitting on a hand full of UtH, KCs, and Bows with no minions to play, so I just get tempoed out and lose horribly.

Is Midrange hunter shit? I really thought Huhuran Hunter could be good ;;

Do I need two sea giants for a good zoo lock or will I be alright with just one?

>>140779174

black night
twin emperor
sylvanas

>>140779806
you will be alright

>>140779806
you only need 1

>>140779806
Running two sea giants is mostly for zoo mirror, so unless the meta becomes zoo heavy (which it could, zoo looks pretty damn good right now) then you shouldn't need 2.

Healadin/deathrattle pally is so fucking good agaisnt aggro and zoo.

Let them fuckers build up thier board and wipe it oit with equal/con. Then that Noz drop bring back your deathrattle nakes my dick swole

>>140779847
black knight is a meme, don't fall for it like I did

janitors think this >>140779772 shitposting is not ok but >>140779030 is

Should I make a N'zoth or C'thun deck? I have pieces for each type but I'm scared of committment

>>140779806
2 is just if you think you'll play against other minion heavy decks like Zoo or Shaman

>>140780026
this is a shitpost

>>140780016
people keep losing to my soggoth because they don't tech TBK and nobody plays silence anymore

>>140780037
C'thun is like 3000 dust cheaper, go with that. Nzoth is more fun though

>>140780016
I'm sorry but my Black Knight pass right through druids. Sap and him are enough to keep those damn taunts away

>>140779851
>>140779883
>>140779949
>>140780043
zoo shitters EXPOSED

>>140778391
Flame walker only does 1 damage per spell. Easy fix. Imagine if knife juggler did 2 damage per minion

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How do I into miracle /hsg/?

i'm 5-11 with this deck

;_;

>>140780014
I went up against a c'thun renolock earlier, and it was cute seeing him try to play around everything I had.
>15/15 taunt c'thun
>humility
>Jaraxxus
>N'zoth reviving cairne sylvanas, etc.
>twisting nether
>left with ashbringer, a 5/5, and a 4/5
>reno
>implying
>forbidden healing up to 30 for good measure

>>140780257
>I have an opinion on Zoo therefor I play zoo everyday on ladder
ok

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Has anyone been able to Yogg harder than this?

>>140778965
Standard is easier for mew players, now you don't have to learn all those old cards! t. Blizzard

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>>140780257
you sound upset

>>140780257
>pointing at zoo bros as if it's shameful to play interactive board centric deck
Wew

>>140780257
zoofags are down here at the bottom of rank 20 with us non netdeck players. if its supposedly a top tier deck, why dont they rise and leave us alone?

>>140779784

Pls respond, I cant have my bug waifu suck shit like this

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>mfw Undercity Huckster and the Raptor that copied it both give me Mind Control that I then used to steal Sylvanas and Ysera consecutively into the Priest conceding

Also, Shadowcaster is OP as fuck.

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double mind control
.
I feel pretty bad for using it, but eh.

>>140780356
no wonder since you don't have a realiable win condition.

Cut journey below and shadow strike/azure drake. Then add the 1 drop pirate charger and a faceless

>>140780419
>interactive
you literally click face more than anyone else

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>>140780509

>tfw double brawl
The face shitters never expect it, they immediately empty their hand right after I play my first brawl

>>140778990

First person to nail this. Not sure why people think they have to fit two decks in one.

>>140779654
>play zoo last night to last minute grind rank 5
>start at rank 18
>rank 5 in 2.5 hours
>87%winrate
No need to adapt. Just play faster decks. I could've ranked faster if all the control cucks didn't fucking rope every turn only to hero power and pass.

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>>140780584
zoo is a board control deck you dummy

>>140780613
N'zoth viable in heal-adin?

>>140780495
knife juggler is bad now that there is no snake trap and it got nerfed. a 2/2 is not worth it just for hounds, play toad or something instead

forlorn stalker is terrible

n'zoth is bad in hunter as well, it costs far too much. I would just curve out at 6 mana in a deathrattle hunter

>>140780506
huckster is a fucking sleeper card. I was playing wild raptor rogue with it yesterday, got so much good shit
>doomhammer as rogue
>antonidas as rogue
>at least 3 other legends I can't remember

>>140780726
>I would just curve out at 6 mana in a deathrattle hunter
Why would any midrange hunter pass up Call of the Wild

>>140780542

Please stop telling people this shit

Miracle rogue wins on card advantage alone. Once you get something to stick your minions and cold blood and direct damage spells are all you need. We don't play oil anymore. We don't need pirate.

If anything fit a yogg or malygod but nothing else.

>>140780726
>no snake trap
?

>>140779806
2, especially with so many fucking priests. 2 entombs and 2 swd means rest in rip for darkshire and sea giant. The only hope is to run enough where they exhaust the removal. Otherwise I find I get cucked by twin emperors

>>140780724
read the thread, it's amazing

>>140780584
It's not my fault you don't have more minions on the board to kill

>>140780724

Control tends to want finishers, and when you slow play as healadin/ control pally, burn through their removal, then drop a 10 mana card that summons a dr8 and sylv at the least, he'll yeah.

If your deck is remotely aggressive no

>>140780724
Fuck yes
Trion
Slyvanas
Cairn
Infested Tauren
Corrupt heal bot

Throw in Lightlord, forbidden healing, lay on hands, and some board clears and you have a deck

>>140780257
>people with some amount of game knowledge and common sense EXPOSED

ftfy

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>>140780449
>zoo stuck at rank 20 with the rest of the non netdeck players
Nigga I literally just added 26 of the cheapest, stickiest minions to a deck with 2 sea giants and 2 darkshires and got here in 2 hours.

>>140781084

Why are people playing corrupted heal both outside of priest?

Can anyone share a goo N'Zoth rogue or paladin list, I'm getting BTFO by shamans and other face decks

>>140781147
Healadin doesn't care how much health his opponent has

>>140780584
>Zoo clicking face first ever
Zoo is 100% all about effective trading. If you can't trade and control the board you lose. You only go face when there isn't a good trade to make.

>>140780356
Drop a conceal and farseer and add 2 violet teachers.

>>140781197
I was honestly surprised at how good it is. It's basically just a big zombie chow

Has anyone tried Loot Hoarders in Nzoth Paladin?

Uther's got nothing to play until turn 3 and he's got card draw problems until late game

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ITS RIGHT THERE

>>140781269
lmfao

anyone know how Wild is going?
do people actually play it?

>>140781376
Cheap deathrattle are shit with nzoth. Who wants their finisher to summon a 2/1 that pushes you into fatigue

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>>140780595
>tfw warrior double brawls my board after I refill it after the last brawl
Drop one of these babies next turn with a darkshire or a couple jugglers and watch that warrior panic.

>>140780863
rogue only class I have golden so I feel like I know what's up but maybe you're right. I currently have 3 net-decks. One has that pirate/faceless finisher, other has malygos and last one has yogg-saron.

I've played them all maybe 100 games total since launch and the most reliable one was imo the pirate one. Yogg close second

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>>140781594
YOOOO

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I HAVE NO TIME FOR GAMES

>>140778747
>Dead card
If only

>>140781654
wew, more anon

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Poor Y'Shaarj
All his brothers are getting played to some extent
C'Thun decks are fucking everywhere
Yogg decks are also memeing their way into existence
N'Zoth had a slow start, but even he's getting some traction in classes like Paladin and Rogue

But the supposed "Most powerful" of the old gods gets no love at all

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Consider the following.

>>140781147
Its a good 5 drop and as a healadin you don't care that its heals them. Your going for that big nzoth drop.

Also its a nice stall/decoy cause some players focus on it just for the heal so it buys you time to make a play

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>>140781794
>10 (TEN!!!) mana card that doesn't impact the board immediately
>sometimes the minions you bring to the field get half of the value from their battlecry, not from their stats
>dies to BGH
different times, same issues

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>>140781376
>needing card draw

what the fuck are you doing, i was legend this weekend with this

>>140781594
>Running double Brawl
He deserved it desu

>>140782180
It's shit senpai, needs summoners

>>140782096
OP

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>>140781594

Heh, greetings

>>140781376
Thats why you mulligan for board clears and your recruits should tied you over until you get some key drops like infested tauren or Cairn. Plus your heals should keep you up to par

Do I get double the end of month rewards if I get to rank20 in Wild and Standard?

Can I get an updated Dragon Priest list for Whispers?

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>>140780726

Changed it from>>140779784 to pic related after seeing your recommendations and that of a few others. Surprised by how much I like Carrion Grub, really nice body for 3 to deal with garbage and a great target for Houndmaster.

Might sub out a Ram Wrangler or Stalker for a Black Knight in the future.

>>140781794
Don't forget to run Doomsayers with him.

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>>140782264
>dropping a 1/1 on turn 4

are you fucking kidding me lmao

>>140782467
>summoning 2/1s on turn 10

how do i get more cards without spending real money

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>>140778734

it's not ok. it's shit. enjoy getting run over repeatedly with a 10mana card that doesn't prevent you from dying, or kill the enemy

a N'Zoth list needs at least two of the following to avoid losing 50% of games on the same turn as playing N'Zoth:

>Tyrion
>Sludge Belcher
>Deathlord
>2 Infested Taurens
>Chillmaw. good fucking luck building a deck that runs Chillmaw and N'Zoth


note that there are literally 0 cards with both deathrattle and charge. they'd be broken with N'Zoth.

what's that you say? Abomination also has taunt? well yeah he does, go ahead and run Abomination in your N'Zoth list. watch him blow up your entire N'Zoth board when he gets cleared

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Well all 6400 dust gone, but I am home.

Fandral just won my first game in absolutely crazy fashion. You just cannot fucking let that card stick.

>be in rank 20
>legend backs farming portraits

dicked right out the gate

>>140782704

>play high end deathrattles
>have them all cleared by a 2 damage AoE

What the fuck are you talking about retard. A-bomb is shit but not for that reason.

>>140782180
why elise?

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>tfw someone was actually arguing Priest is the best hero in this new meta because of the new card 'Embrace the Shadow' which would according to him enable never seen before OP OTK decks
>ask him for his rank
>he never replies

>>140782703
do dailies, grind ranked, do arena

>>140782857
forgot to mention it was on /v/
where people suck at their main hobbie

>tuskarr summons a totem golem effectively 3 mana 6/6
>turn 4 7/7 faceless
Something inside me died

Be honest, /hsg/, did you even touch Wild once WoG came out?

>>140783010
nope

>>140782857

Enter the Shadows isn't terrible but idk why someone would run it legitimately. If the "Healing = Damage" effect is worth 2 mana in Embrace, then Auchenai is a 2 mana 3/5 and doesnt have a fucking turn requirement.

>>140782747
Is Brann only in there for yogg?

>>140782453

use this deck but -1 nzoth +1 bear trap -1 harrison jones +1 ram wrangler

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/497619-wotog-teras-beast-hunter

>>140780584
We click everything more than anyone else.

Zoo is the deck for professional starcraft players concerned about their APM. :^)

>>140783010
Yes, queued into a secret paladin.

Conceded and went straight back to standard

Daily reminder that Kripp gets paid to pet his dog and be worse than you at ranked standard Hearthstone.

>>140783058
Yeah actually I completey forgot to take it out because its awful. But yeah its for Yogg. (and the fun factor)

>>140782747
>Brann
fucking why in that deck?

>>140783010
No.

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pirate warrior a thing?

>>140782747

>brann

to bait premium removal or what?

>>140783106
he helps me deal with anxiety issues and my depression so he's ok in my book

>>140783207
>rank 19
nope

>>140783106
>you didn't start streaming hearthstone right after it came out so you don't make easy money

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>>140781594
>>140782184

double brawl should not be allowed

>>140782983
>going to /v/
>ever

>>140783010
Haven't played a single game, and don't plan to.

>>140783150
I mean double yogg is cool no doubt, but yeah he's the only battlecry card in the deck. Maybe throw in an ancient of war instead? Could be crazy if fandral sticks.

>>140783106
What do you have against him? His videos are entertaining when fucking around not doing work at work.

>>140783305
>I mean double yogg is cool no doubt, but yeah he's the only battlecry card in the deck. Maybe throw in an ancient of war instead? Could be crazy if fandral sticks.

Yeah like I said, I completely forgot he was still there. And I agree its 100% awful. I just wanted double yogg spells :ohdear:

>>140783257
>board clear should not be allowed

>>140783257
You still have chromagg on the board. That webm shows that guy lucking out and the absolute best minion surviving

>>140783257

Brawl should either cost 6 mana or require the warrior to have at least one minion on the board, and I say this as somebody who runs two of them.

>amani berserker will never kill your ass

>>140783010
I play it now and then so I can play Fatigue Mage, since it's one of my favorite decks ever. Since Duplicate, Sludge Blecher, Healbot & Deathlord are core cards, the deck is 100% dead in Standard.

It does well against everything except against any kind of Hunter, just because of their goddamn Hero Power.

>>140783406
BA BLADES BE THIRSTY

>>140783390
Brawl should really cost more mana. It's op as fuck just like all warrior removal.

>>140783106
>ywn make a living and buy an entire house just playing shitty children card games

>>140783236

How?

>>140783497
What are some other good mage decks to run in wild anon?

>>140783538
nigga in mtg theres fucking 4 mana: destroy all. if anything it should be CHEAPER so we can have proper removal.

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>>140783247
hey I just got on give it time

>>140783551

Emphasis on shitty children's card games.

He plays anything but HS, and his streams become a tenth of what they normally are.

>Plus he got the public shill OK from Curse, so he's getting SPONSOR MONEY

>>140783557
what do you mean by 'how'? I literally just watch him and that overall calms me down and cheers me up a bit

>>140783391
best scenario would be dragonlord surviving the first one

>>140783595
nigga trying to compare mtg to hearthstone is absolutely absurd, because if even they're both card games, both of them have very different mechanics.

It's like trying to compare La Mulana with Paper Mario: TTYD. They're both 2-D games, so they must be the same, right?

>>140783768
Why? He would've just executed it for 1 mana then brawled the result anyways.

>>140783825
nice analogy nerd xdd

Is Nz'oth paladin possible without solemn vigil?
I don't wanna pony up all that gold, I'm only up to the 2nd wing

>>140783565
Grinder Mage. It's essentially Fatigue Mage except for the fatigue elements (stall, coldlights, etc.)

>>140783865
>brawl
>5
>execute
>6
>brawl
>11

>>140783825
I get what you mean, but we really need better removal in HS. The spells are sub-par compared to minion. Why must it be that way. Spells are more interesting that dudes smashing faces.

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do you miss him /hsg/

>>140783865

He wouldn't have been able to play the second brawl if he had to execute Deathwing

>>140783987
>>140783961
Prove he didn't have a coin lads.

>>140783976
>tfw crafted a golden dr.boom expecting to get a dust refund once they inevitably had to nerf him

;_;

>>140783976
nope, we got bigger problems now

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>Smooth sail through ranks as Aggro Warrior
Feels good to be a toxic player

>>140783865
>Blackstar math

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>>140784046

>turn 10+
>still having the coin
Inb4 "b-b-but he might have had an Emperor tick on his execute!"

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>>140784093
i know this feel

>>140784198
Nah, no way there was an emperor tick. The second brawl was the oldest card in his hand and had no mana reduction.

As control it's easy to have the coin still in hand at turn 10

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>>140783976

Nope.

>>140784201
Grats, you're lower than the rank I started at.

>>140784056

The sneaky kikes at Blizzard knew people were sitting on multiple copies of Boom and they didn't want to give out tons of free dust, that's why they invented wild. They will never have to nerf any new cards because "lel it's just gonna cycle out in a couple years :^)"

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>>140779412
post dick

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>>140784396
Hey I didn't even play last season :^)

>Not playing quadra-Gods pandemonium
cmon guys

>>140784435
Yep. This nerf will probably be the last card nerf hearthstone will ever see. The lifecycle of a card at best is 18 months. The sets that come out late this year will barely be in rotation for 13 months.

>>140783207
Dunno, I've seen a couple competitive at the legend area in streams. Not sure If you're running it but I've seen them use finley too, for extra card draw or hunter aggro.

>>140784558
Classic cards will most likely continue to be nerfed and buffed.

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Should Silvermoon Guardian be tweaked?

>>140784558

This will be what Blizz introduces before the next expansion to guarantee players have to buy new packs.
>classic cards give classic dust, GvG cards give GvG dust etc
>can only use dust from a set to craft cards from that same set, so you can't dust all your GvG cards that get cycled out to make new WoG cards

>>140783976
nope on another note why didnt juggler get nerfed fuck that card

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>>140784543
>C'thun is only strong with lots of c'thun minions
>N'zoth is only strong with lots of deathrattle minions
>Yogg Saron is only strong with lots of spells
>Y'shaarj is never strong

How?

kripp's evolve/c'thun deck is pretty fun desu senpai

>>140784682
If anything Chosen should be nerfed. It'd be good even without the C'thun buff.

>>140784558
they're gonna be forced to nerf doomhammer, alexstraza and divine favor soon, surprised they didn't do it in last weeks nerfs

>>140784778

Juggler did get nerfed, he is now a 2/2 instead of a 3/2.

>>140784661

Cards in this game don't get buffed.

>>140783927
Just craft it fuccboi

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>master of evolution
>get ancient watcher
>master of evolution again
>get alarmo bot

>>140784923
you know what i mean.

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How do I improve this? Do I craft Fandral to make Druid of the Claw have more value?

>>140784884
Doom hammer is 7 mana. There isn't much to nerf anon.

how is the divine shield paladin deck?

it sounds super fucking fun on paper

but i havent seen any decklists

>>140784923
>Cards in this game don't get buffed
Yeah let me know when you can prove that statement.

>>140785016
show a SINGLE buff

>>140784786
>C'thun is only strong with lots of c'thun minions

you only need 4-6 c'thun minions + c'thun to have a good c'thun deck

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>>140784948
If dumb things can happen, they will happen.

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Reno status from the meta: Gone.

Where'd they all go? You'd think healing to full Health after someone dropped C'thun on you wasn't a good thing.

>>140785071
First provide proof that a card will never ever be buffed in the entirety of hearthstone no matter what happens or how long the game stays active.

Why are Cthun minions allowed to have good bodies?

>>140785148
gotta move dat goalpost

>>140785129
>Belcher

>>140785148
You're asking unreasonable things.

>>140785158
So they can function as babbies first deck.

Also they're built around the fact that most of them can be used as anti-aggro tools, thus building more anti-aggro into the meta in general.

>>140785148
Dr. Boom will never be buffed in the entirety of hearthstone. The servers will shut down before the card is buffed.

>>140785178
I'm not moving goalposts, you're the one that claimed that cards don't get buffed. So prove to me that no matter what, a card will never be buffed. Otherwise, you're wrong.

>>140785228
I stated it unreasonably to prove a point.

>>140785295
>to prove a point.
they wont buff any cards, they will just release new expansion with better ones. that is pretty clear already.

>>140785295
>, you're the one that claimed that cards don't get buffed

im a different anon; im just commenting on the fact that you moved from the position of " no cards get buffed" to " No cards will ever get buffed"

>>140785016

Because the only changes to cards have been nerfs. Cards get indirectly buffed in the form of new cards with amazing synergy (frothing and warsong with the addition of patron, for example) but Blizz does not straight up buff shit cards by improving their stats or effect.

Obviously I can't guarantee that will never happen for as long as Hearthstone exists but I have played since launch and I have yet to see a single direct buff.

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How is this?

>>140783538
>>140783595
Brawl and Equality are horseshit when Priests don't get anything whatsoever.

>>140785295
If they buff cards, what reason would you have to buy the new ones? Nerfing is the only thing that has happened, and we'll be lucky if it ever happens again.

>>140785445
Classes arent all the same.

>>140785091
Even if you only ran 4-6 c'thun cards and c'thun, that'd still be 1/5 of a deck with three other god's worth of decks needed for space.

Also, 4-6 c'thun cards? Really?
2x Pandas, 2x Chosens, 1-2 Class cards, Ve'lkor, brann.

>Playing casual nothing but net deck paladins playing faerie dragon and jewled scarab

kek

>>140785378
I took "cards don't get buffed in this game" as "cards have never been buffed in this game, and never will be". Seems like a pretty fair interpretation of the statement.

The feast of souls begins ~NOW~

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only need 5 more cards, have 3k dust
want 2 get to legend
what to put in my deck

>>140784923
>Cards in this game don't get buffed.


>Murloc Warleader - now causes other Murlocs to have +2/+1, up from +1/+1.
>Core Hound - now has 5 Health, up from 4.
>Abusive Sergeant - now has 2 Attack, up from 1.
>Temple Enforcer - Attack increased to 6, from 5.
>Pyroblast - Damage increased to 10, from 9.
>Fireball - Mana cost lowered to 4, from 5.
>Inner Rage’s +2 Attack effect no longer goes away at the end of the turn.

Do you have anything to say for yourself?

>>140785490

Y'shaarj would ruin that deck because you don't get the battlecry if it plays another Old God or a C'thun buffer

>>140785445
>priests don't have any removal
Kill yourself pleb.

Injured blademaster used to be a 3/7.
There a card that got buffed.

>>140785441
Even if the effect lasted beyond the card's death, it'd still be pretty weak, and it would barely synergize with anything.

>>140785158
You would be playing catchup the entire game.

Note that the only C'thun-buffing minions that impact the board are the 3/2 spell damage one for Mage and the 2/1 Disciple. Both of which are very easy to remove from the board.

It's like an anon said earlier, C'thun Decks rely on board presence, which is why Dark Arakkoa and the Twins are so important to the archetype.


>>140785295
Unleash the hounds was buffed in early stages of the game to give Hunters a better board clear. I believe it's the only instance of a buff.

The fact that the Unleash tweaking occurred in an early stage of the game combined with the current environment of "nerfs, no buffs" shows a probable future of little-to-no buffs, with "little" being identified at 1-2 every 3 years.

>>140785515
>Seems like a pretty fair interpretation of the statement.

its not, since the original anon, isn't from the future and has no way of knowing what the future holds.

His statement is true though, i don't think in the history of Hearthstone there was a direct buff to a specific card.

>>140785484
Different classes doesn't mean you get to disregard balance altogether.

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>>140785623
There have plenty. Just because most of them happened when the game was still in its early stages doesn't mean there haven't been any at all.

http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Card_changes

>>140785626
Paladins, druids, and shaman all have worse aoe removal than priests. Priests also have some of the best removal in the game.

Your idea of balance is exactly what's wrong with WoW. You want to destroy class identity and fucking homogonize them so they just have different animations and sound effects.

>>140785626
Priest still have clears.

>>140785604
>>140785552

These changes were all made in the alpha or the beta. Show me some after the game officially launched.

>>140785623
You literally only need to look through the patchnotes on the wiki to see cards that got buffed.

I would't be surprised if everyone arguing a card has never been buffed has only played hearthstone for less than a year

>Zoo is supposedly a godlike climbing deck
>Can't get out of rank 19

Don't give me that LOL U SUCK XD bullshit because I follow every streamer's example to the goddamn letter and nothing works.

>>140785606

>even if the card lasted beyond the card's death, it'd still be pretty weak

you truly are a fucking retard aren't you?

>Lose due to a disconnect
I feel fucking cheated, why can't they fix their shitty reconnect feature?

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>>140785831

>shit that happened in the beta when they were still finishing the game will happen again
Guess that means they will bring back cards like this, right?

>>140785831
>>140785761
since the release, i honestly don't see any card buffs,

>>140785552
are you fucking stupid

>>140785784
The point you were making was that cards have never been buffed in the history of Hearthstone.

Stop moving the goalpost. But to prove you wrong.

>Bane of Doom can now summon any collectible Demon. [Previously limited to Blood Imp, Voidwalker, Flame Imp, Dread Infernal, Succubus and Felguard]

Are you going to try to change the goalpost again?

>>140785902
i've had the same experience i feel like i'm either stomping hardcore or im getting rekked hard.

>>140785921
Ever thought it might be your connection?

>open ton of packs
>get the same commons over and over
>don't get a single one of the commons I actually want to use in decks

fuck you blizzard

>>140785913
meant to say "even if the card's effect lasted beyond the card's death"

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Astonishing!

>>140786013
Bane of Doom was supposed to summon any demon. its not a buff, its a fix. God damn you're really somehting

>>140785784
Druid of the claw got beast tribal
Bane of doom

Inb4 more goalpost moving

i have none of the standard legendaries besides leeroy. who should i craft?

>>140785996
>>140785784
>>140785295
>>140785071
Bane of Doom

do i NEED black knight in a cthun warrior deck?

>>140786013
>card changes before the game actually released are buffs
>changing a card to do what it says is a buff

>>140786131
bugfix

>>140785902
People are teching hard against zoo since kripp made a video about it

>fight a priest
>his thoughsteal and two shades give him legendaries
>we go into fatigue because he's a boring cunt
>golden monkey gives him two nat the darkfisher
i'm so mad

Are there any good mid range/control mage decks that are actually playable in standard right now?

>>140786131
>>140786114

>>140786114
Bugfix == Buff. Of course you'll say that this isn't the case though. If you want another one though, then here:

>Shadow of Nothing (created by Mindgames when the opponent's deck has no minions remaining in it) no longer has a hidden triggered effect which destroys itself at the end of the turn.

Absolutely small buff, but it's a buff none-the-less.

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So can we all agree that the state of the game in standard is more enjoyable and not so catch all?

No more Loatheb.
No more automatic turn 7.
No more Minibots
No more Gnome/Knife abuse
No more WHO THE FUCK AM I?

It's grand anons - admit it.

>>140786023
Not him but Hearthstone is the only game where I ever experience disconnects. I can play any other game all day without a single DC. It doesn't happen all that often (maybe once a week) but it happens more than it does with other games (never).

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>>140785769
>Paladins have worse aoe removal than priests

>>140785780
They do. They're just bad, like everything else Priest has.

>>140783538
>Warrior
>OP removal

I think you are thinking of mages.

>>140785606

>preventing c'thun from raping your face and board is weak

>>140786245
Inb4 he says shadow isn't a "real" card so it doesn't count

>>140786229
>>140786206
>>140786160
Mindgames, then.

You people are so picky.

>>140786252
The simple fact that I dont have to worry about my HP below being fucking 20 vs Druids makes me happy.

>>140786063

i know what you meant but i'm calling you stupid because that would be a fucking massive effect.

>all old gods are useless
>tirion is a 6/6 for 8
>there are no more taunts
>any current deck that runs any minion over 6 mana is useless

please just fucking jump out of your window right now

why do you come here to spew your fucking garbage, thoughtless opinions?

Unleashed, Bane of Doom, and Abusive Sergeant are currently the only cards that have seen buffs post-beta.

A buff hasn't happened in Hearthstone since May 8th, 2014, and even then that was a nerf, but still a buff from the original state of the card.

It's very safe to say that we're far pass the developmental state of the game where buffs are necessary to give classes tools. The Standard Format is more than enough to create a cycle of power in the game as-is, and unless a design oversight occurs, I don't think many big nerfs like what we just witnessed will occur either.

>>140786289
>like everything else Priest has
they have the best single targets removal, are you insane

>>140785541
Always need a brawl.

Armorsmiths, acolytes of pain and Gromm are usually control staples. Not sure if those are those the best now days, or best fit for that deck though.

Does "well met" really trigger so many people? I can't imagine any other reason Blizzard would include it in the list of C'thus's taunts since the rest are from his WoW encounter.

>>140786227
Freeze

>>140786353
>You people are so picky.
It literally changes nothing. Having a fucking 1/1, wow

>>140786420
Harvest Golem became a mech when GvG launched. This was a direct buff.

>>140786245
>>140786229
>>140786206
>>140786160
>>140786131
>>140786114

Here's another buff they made to a Hearthstone card post-release.

>Druid of the Claw is embracing his wild side and now becomes a Beast minion type upon switching Cat Form or Bear Form.

>>140785441

we need a battlecry counter.

>>140786535
I really hope it does. Paladin is my only gold class and "Well Met!" is the only emote I spam.

>>140786574
>Better move those goalposts

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>it hasnt even been a week

>im already bored of this cthun shit

Anybody playing new-school patron?

Is this my ticket to free legend or did I just waste dust crafting hogger v2

>>140786023
Yes it's my connection. I'm not aguing about my disconnect but the reconnect feature. If I disconnect even for 1 second the game takes forever to come back, and that's if Battlenet doesn't shit itself

>>140786667
the point is, they wont buff anything anymore. thats it.

>>140786615
Ah, you got me. However that particular situation is so unique that I think it is safe to call it off as an outlier. The stats weren't changed, just a new tribal was given to an appropriate, already-existing minion.

>>140786574
But it's a buff regardless. Wasn't this the point of this discussion, talking about cards that were buffed post-release? How much they buffed the card doesn't matter.

Also, it's a 0/1, not a 1/1.

>>140786615
Also this. The rest of the non-mechs pre GvG too.

>>140786726
You probably wasted your dust crafting hogger, nupatron does fine without him.

>>140786726
in the mageless meta, hogger is pretty strong

>>140786715
this. I can't believe what I'm about to say but I miss combo druid and secret paladin shit. all we needed was the nerfs. the game is too fucking young for this Standard shit

>>140786663
"By the Holy Light" is by far the best wow emote in the game

>>140786762
This is a more reasonable argument than
>they have and will never buff any card ever.

Should have just started with that tbqh fampai

>>140786762
And why are you so certain of this?

We already have proof that they buffed cards post-release, what's stopping them from doing it again? Present your evidence where it shows that they will never buff a card again.

>Better move dem goalposts tho

>>140786959
>Present your evidence
jesus christ, am I on reddit?

>>140786515
i added 2 brawls, and two acolytes

which legend streamers play midrange hunter?

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>>140787041
Stop trying to change the discussion.

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With c'thun and his goons being a thing, do you guys think Blizzard will plement more cards with direct specific interactions between them?

>>140786959
>what's stopping them from doing it again?
the devs mentality has "evolved" since then. With standard, they dont need to fix stuff anymore, just balance classic a little and voila

>>140786794
>>140786809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ewuG7wqViU

he's there to counter c'thun and I guess he works well against float decks which are very popular atm

>>140786959

>proving a negative

What is this, amateur hour?

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>Lose to someone
>Queue again, against the same faggot
>Win
That's right. Gimme my star back, fucboi

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>play for first time as paladin because quests are about paladin and i need to win two matches to get these sweet five packs
>go against priest
>c'thun gnome at 12 hp, c'thun at 23/23 after a while since he's literally unkillable with all the buffs and heals
>go against another priest
>c'thun gnome at second turn with coin
im done ty lads

>>140787490
>cant kill his opponent before turn 10.
Seriously, I have a hard time staying alive with my N'Zoth deck. I can NEVER play him ffs.

>>140787490
LISTEN CLOSELY

>decide to play rogue
>nothing but face shit
>decide to play a slower deck that can deal with it
>nothing but priests
>ok fuck it, just gonna go rush shaman
>first match is a stupid as fuck druid playing nothing but taunts that manages to use both wild growths because in both starting hand and mulligan draw nothing but 3 cost cards

I swear this crap is fixed

>>140786367
Fuck that combo and the anxiety about worrying about yourself exploding at any moment, not only once but twice in a game. At least with c'thun it's only on turn ten and only happens once, even if you instantly die it's far less stressful. Oh and of course every time they'd have the combo, every time.

>>140786252
I think i liked the past meta more but I definitely don't miss a lot of the cancer that got rotated out. Every single deck running Belchers, Dr. well played, Loathebs, mad scientists and those spiders. I already completely forgot about christmas tree man too, those couldn't burn in a fire fast enough. >Turn six well played

>>140787212
If you mean more premade deck architectures like cutlists and a c'thun then yeah. It seems like it could just be an experiment or a fad but it feel like they might go more in that direction again. I'm still not sure why cutlists aren't a tribe. They said they didn't want to repeat or add any more tribes again but cultists are pretty much one anyways.

If you're running 2 Astral Communions and going second with a four card mulligan. What are the odds that you'll draw a Astral Communion by turn four?

>get some retarded ass rng that had me winning a game i had no business winning
>hover over to say sorry

hmmm. oh well.

>>140786126

Sylvanus is finding her way into a shit ton of decks this meta.

>play as pirate/weapon warrior for shits and giggles
>keep matching up against mages
Does Ben Brode design the matchmaking to be anti-fun?

>>140787643
>tfw trying out miracle and maly rogue out for the first time
>zoo and shaman every fucking game
>i get shit on by turn 5

>>140787708
1 in 21, I believe.

>Rogue is going to suck because of bladeflurry nerf!

Who was retarded enough to believe this?

>>140787892
plz explain to me cause I'm literally losing ranks trying to make N'Zoth rogue work.

>>140787889
by turn 4 anon, not ON turn 4

It's a rogue plays beneath the grounds and gets all 3 in a row kinda episode

>want to make deathrattle deck
>dont have cairne
can't believe we've reached a point where he's actually good again

>>140787992
it will never work because of rogues horrible sustain.

If you are gonna play zoth just go do it in a paladin deck

>>140788140
mathematically speaking that's literally impossible

>>140788221
Rarer things have happened in Hearthstone.

Just look at some of the crazy shit that happens in Trolden videos.

>>140788221

not really, especially when nearing fatigue.

Is there a better feeling then seeing your enemy suicide because of bad rolls with Yogg'saron?

It's so hard for me to decide if I should dust all of my GvG and Naxx cards. The only legendary I kept from Naxx was Loatheb, and my only GvG legendaries were boom and Mal'Ganis.

I don't really see myself playing Wild, but what if in a couple of months, I end up wanting to play Wild for some reason.

I don't think I would, but if I did it would be pretty shitty.

>>140788221
Well mathematically speaking it just happend too me

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>install hearthstone since it looks neat
>go against priest with c'thun deck, mages with gold cards, and hunters with beast decks or whatever the fuck that have 4/1 boars at second turn and shit
LITERALLY
WHY
EVEN
FUCKING
BOTHER

>>140788158
he's a rather slow card anyway. Sylvanas + Tirion is already amazing for Nzoth to pull up. Then some loot hoarders and maybe even corrupted healbot and you're good.

>>140788221
mathematically speaking that's literally wrong you retard

>>140788359
>4/1 boars
>gold cards
neither of these are good though

>>140788359
why even bother indeed
why even bother learning the game when you instead can whine endlessly on 4chan?

I haven't seen one case of Reno every since the release of WoG, where did he go?

Why did Blizzard give druids a freaking 5/7 with taunt on top of buffing C'Thun along with it? Seriously, some design decisions are mindblowing, just like that 4 mana 7/7 for shaman along with Thing From Below

>thistle tea
>get 3 more thistle tea

>>140788484
Druids are the ramp class. They're the class that has the biggest minions.

They're literally the Timmy class

>>140788359
>deck has gold cards oh god
>FUCKING HUNTER DECKS WITH 4/1 BOARS
>MY 2 DROPS HAVE 2 ATTACK THIS GUY HAS TWICE MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're an idiot.