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BLUE FLAG SOON EDITION

(you let it die edition)

A thread for all simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/

>Thread trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0NUJTjkpIM [Embed] [Embed]

>/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral

>/fsg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
Or whatever is on the group's profile

>BMS download links
https://mega.nz/#!0BlTkazA!VUwoKAzavtJ3qIUy7lEF8D8MFjbI_Si-r6nwC3wQZYQ
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/54569phfy8au7/BMS4.33_setup

>Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

>Silent Hunter 3 pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/jNSvhFfY

>Dangerous Waters pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/qvxk755r

>FPSchazly's Dangerous Waters tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOSvzqNmdX71x2COOyM-p2qHIpRNOvpGQ

>/dcsg/ music playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLGfGalIdY7AgadRWtOf0c6jagM4JVjN4

>OP pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/yXeNzrpg


>Example of welcome sims:
DCS World
Falcon BMS
Rise of Flight
IL-2
Combat Helo
Microsoft Flight Simulator
X-Plane
Euro truck sim
Assetto Corsa
rFactor 2
Live for Speed
SAM Simulator
Steel Beasts Pro
Steel Armor: Blaze of War
Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
Silent Hunter
Train Simulator
Farming Simulator 2015

>Example of non-welcome games:
Arma 3
Ace Combat
War Thunder
World of ____
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BMS ops WHEN
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Blue Flag When
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I WANTED TO MAKE A GODS PLANE EDITION FUCK YOU
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ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Got a kill missing a wing and flew back. 11/10 would fight OP AI F4s again.
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DA BOYS
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shit, I got to the previous thread too late. I've failed
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BMS OPS WHEN
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>>139976473
How fast were the planes in the picture flying?

DCS OPS WHEN
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Dynamic campaign WHEN
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>>139976706
2fast
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>>139974924
>BLUE FLAG SOON EDITION
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So if I'm a scrub who has only been flying for a month should I even bother with blue flag, or would I just be a waste of a slot
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>>139981212
Waste of a good slot, but if you get into a teamspeak server and are willing to communicate you are good to go.
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>>139976748
Sadly only the old games have them because its more profitable to release static campaigns for 15 bucks. What game?
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which plane would you fuck but not marry
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>>139974924

What's the deal with ARMA? An /a3g/ used to exist and I assume its posters are still around, the fuck happened to make it verboten both here and in the Wargames General?
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>>139981942
Grippen
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>>139980153

?? They are doing testing now. Should start next week ish.
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F/A-18 WHEN
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When
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Viggen pics/news/release/anything WHEN
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>>139983039
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is /simg/ dead as fuck? no pots for hours at a time now
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>>139987182
ded gaem

ded genre

f18 will save it though
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http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2755618&postcount=1174

>Blue flag will have R-27ER/Ts, AIM-120s, and >R-77s
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>>139987602

They fucked it.

inb4 slavboo tears

Aim-120's are just too fucking good compared to what the red team gets. This is just a fact. They are superior in every way to the Reds planes and missiles

The 80's blue flag was perfect. Yes the F-15 is still a better aircraft overall, but at least it was more balanced that way.

It was actually fun knowing that the F-15's couldn't just launch 8 spamrams at you from 50 miles away and just book it home.

DCS was fun for two weeks. That its. Now its fucked. I'm mad.

Can't wait for the try hard blue faggot fucks to brag about how good they are. They are actually going to believe that all the training they did payed off and that's why they beat red this time.
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>>139987847
These are the posts that make it fantastic
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>>139987908

t.
super skilled eagle driver
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>>139988038
I fly the Ka-50
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>>139988078

Hope you like flying for an hour just to get splashed out of no where by a F-15 from 15000 feet.
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>>139988203
>Not knowing how to hide from the CAP planes
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What are good 'study' sims for someone to get into? I have DCS World with several modules, as well as Microsoft Flight simulator, I just haven't gotten around to playing either very much yet.
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>>139988267

lmao ok dude.

F-15 radar sees to the ground, and you will show up no matter where you hide.

Last time they sent F-15's into the mountains specifically to kill choppers.

>>139989230

BMS
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What is the de facto stall speed on the mirage? Got into a gunfight yesterday, tried to scissor, but didn't work too well. I wondered if I could speedbrake and flaps to make him overshoot.
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>>139989538
BMS Falcon?
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>>139981779
>what game
really nigga?
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before:
>ha fucking dumb f-15 babbys get rekt cuz they cant into AIM-7
Now:
>WAAAAAAAAA WHY ARE THE LETTING 120'S IN????
>Aim-120's are just too fucking good
>wow what happend to 80s blueflag
>MUH SPAMRAM
>F-FIFTEEN F-FIFTEEN F-FIFTEEN F-FIFTEEN
>NO FUN
top kek
Fucking slavboos tears at its finest. Slavboos are literally on suicide watch.
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>>139987847
>They are actually going to believe that all the training they did payed off and that's why they beat red this time.
Hopefully red doesn't cheat this time. Maybe blue can win.
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>>139990756

You need to find a new picture for this kind of post. You use the same one every thread. Really easy to tell its the same person doing it every time.

AIM-7's were still way fucking better than R's and T's and red still won.

120's are just in another league. They are far and away the best missile in the world. If red wins this time, I hope for a mass suicide on blues side.

>>139990832

>muh cheating
Show proofs. Because until I see any other proof besides one person on the forum complaining about it, I'm going to chalk it up as butthurt, because it happened in the last hours of the last day, after blue had been completely blown the fuck out.
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>>139990689
Havent played it yet, so I only know what is posted here.
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Fuck BoS. BoB ops when?
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>>139991178
Falcon BMS
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>>139991098
>Show proofs
>meme spouting as a response
Go look in the forums, it's been posted many times it wasn't just one post.
They had tried to get rid of the guy doing it for a week before it ended. Your just being willfully ignorant to make yourself feel better. The embarrassing thing is your making fun of bluefags for being try hards and yet your here lying on a Mongolian basket weaving forum about cheating which arguably turned the tide in the favor of red. Top kek.
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>>139991098
keep those slav tears coming
Maybe red can cheat again and pull through.
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>this one burger who is getting triggered this fucking hard

You make it so obvious that it's all one person. Please try harder.
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>>139990756
>inb4

>Red side deosn't get Tors or tunguskas, because BLUE doesn't have good AA.
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delicious slavboo butthurt
>HURRRR MUH ET'S MAKING F-15 FAGS CRY SUICIDE WATCH
>WOW 120'S IN BLUEFLAG
GODS PLANE
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>>139992638
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>>139992638
>>139992665
pls craig stop spamming.
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>>139992816
>HURRRRR CRAIG STOP SPAMMING
You delusional slavboos are hilarious.
So caught up in your schemes you start finger pointing and name-spouting truly pathetic.
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>>139992983
He quoted a 'slavboo' post though. You don't even know what side you're shitposting on now.
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>>139989538
You mean Falcon BMS?
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>>139992816
Fuck you
It isn't me I'm playing IL2
How fucking dumb do you need to be to think shitposting is reserved to one person?
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>>139993191
>shitposting is reserved to one person?
but it is reserved to one person
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>>139993065
the balled of a butthurt slavboo
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>>139993191
you're the biggest shitter around though.
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Can you just fuck off? It's literally the same two people just shit posting at each other every night and day.

Modern Blueflag will be OK. It will be tougher this time for Reds, but we can do it.
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>>139993497
>but we can do it.
but of course, cheats aren't that hard
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>>139991975
>>139992360
The "cheating" was realistic espionage )))))
was fair because blue often heavily outnumbered red
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>>139993267
>>139993410
Your delusions don't make me a shitter.
Just because some guy hurt your little baby boy asshole over a plane on the internet doesn't automatically make it me.
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>>139991412
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>>139992638
>WOW AIM-120 IS SO GOOD I CANT BELIEVE ITS IN BLUEFLAG GUISE HOW UNFAIR
>(me)haha look how asshurt you slavs are
>WOW LOOK HOW ASSHURT YOU ARE BURGER FUCKOFF <INSERT TEAMSPEAK NAME HERE>
Textbook delusional slavboo.
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>>139989538
>>139990293
>>139993137
Falcon BMS is very detailed, but being 20 years old make it very lacking in to tutorial/UI/training missions department when compared to DCS or FSX. So it isn't exactly beginner friendly.
this is an honest opinion who just started DCS & BMS 2-3weeks ago
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>>139994717

By >me you mean all of the above posts right?
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I never get to play multiplayer with anyone.

I've got DCS and BMS. I've played both a bit but I'm rusty. What do you guys play the most of?
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Why are Slavs so defense?
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>>139994837
>I'm new here so I'm not too sure, but here's somethings I do know

DCS : blue flag coming in a week i think /simg is flying RED
I don't think there were DCS ops for the last while, but then maybe I wasn't on when they were playing
BMS: weekend bmshost ops
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>>139995030
Why don't both of you shut the fuck up and go play a fucking game? Oh wait, I forgot that you don't even play sims and are here just to shitpost all day. Fucking autists.
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>>139995057
>I don't think there were DCS ops for the last while
My life got very busy and I didn't have time to make DCS autism missions any longer, I could go back and make some now but I'm currently in maximum shill mode for BoS.
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>>139996980
I want to get into BoS but I can't even land most of the planes properly.
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>>139997170
Land them like a glider I guess, dive towards the runway (at a sensible rate mind you) and then level off when you're almost hitting the ground to gently touch down
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http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2755618&postcount=1174
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>>139994747
BMS itself isn't that old and just check the BMS section in pastebin in OP for tutorials. Besides, sticking to 1 sim isn't going to happen. The free Su-25T will give plenty access to DCS, probably including the training. Here are the must have starter pack for free:
>Il-2 1946, patched (pirate is ok including multiplayer)
The ultimate general WW2 sim. HyperLobby for multiplayer (?) but it might be dead by now IL-2 '46 OPS WHEN
>BMS (pirate falcon 4.0 to install)
The ultimate F-16 sim. Detailed plane *and* world. The more and more I play BMS instead of DCS, the more I realize that it's a superior sim as an overall experience. Your missions feel more meaningful because, in muh dynamic campaigns, they fit in a bigger picture. Results of your mission affects the course of the theater. BMS OPS WHEN
>DCS World
Free plane will last long enough. Has some detailed planes if you're willing to pay shekels but things don't quite fit in the overall theater (as if there is one) (enjoy cold-war AAA as a WW2 plane etc.). Without things like Blue Flag you might find yourself with nothing to do. DCS OPS WHEN

>>139995030
Most 3rd world cultures that try hard to be strong and relevant are like that really. Turkroaches are same for example. :^)just shut up tho
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It's nice to see that the F-15 shitters all follow the same no matter where they shitpost
"He disagrees with me! Fucker has to be a slavaboo!" mentality.
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>>139997746
>Follow the same mentality no matter where they shitpost.
Well I ballsed that one up
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>>139997823
>he likes a plane i dont
>haha hes a shitter!!!!

ban miggers when?
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>>139997746
>F15 fags
>idiots

pick two m80.
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>>139998764
There we go again
"He doesn't like my shitter machine"
"HE HAS TO BE A SLAVABOO MIGGER BAN HIM ROOOOO"
Pathetic
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Planefags what happened to wgg?
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>force overshoot
>he memesufo me by stopping mid air, then regaining all that speed as I try to run away

Mig-15 removed when?
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>DCS Blueflag
>everyone is hops into it

>Falcon Online
>nobody seems to care

Or am I delusional.
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>>140000007
We left those left behind let it die

>>140000091
What game
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>>140000007
>Those swedish delusions.
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>>140000091
Migs can't afford breaking with throttle, so they fly with full power and airbrakes.
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>>140000000
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>>140001053
No
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>>139999110
desu its the same arguments either way

>he doesnt like gods plane
>MIGGER DETECTED BAN WHEN

>he doesnt like da boyz 29
>PATHETIC BURGER DETECTED BAN WHEN
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>>139987602
>L-39 and Hawk
>Hawk
>no weapon limitations
Wake me up when they make another edition that isn't shit.
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>>140004171
>no weapon limitations
So you can bring nukes now?
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>>140004498
>no Air to Air weapons limitations
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>>140004498
>not full vikhrs
>not vikhring all the f-15
do you even meme?
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Multicrew schnell-ops when?
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>>140007972
I always like to imagine it's just one guy, one gun per arm and he has to stand.
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>>140000272
DCS babies cant fly a plane properly
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>>140009915
nor can 1/2 of the falconeers
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BMS ops WHEN
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>>140010795
BMS ops HOW
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>>140013458
BMS ops WHY
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>>140013741
BMS ops NO
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I fucking hate my PC, it's old and it won't even run sh3 with GWX... Is SH4 a viable option? Or any other sub/ship simulator games out there?
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>>140015130
DANGEROUS
WATERS
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>BMS
>DEAD against SA-2
>AGM-88
>no HTS in loadout for some reason, whatever
>be a bit noob
>see 2 numbers in the weapon page
>press 2 for both so it's like sa-2 or something i guess
>fire 1 missile for each signal
>rtb
>mission success, excellent rating, both missiles hit
>first missile hit AK47 (wut)
>second missile hit Fan Song F SA-2 radar as expected
I didn't know AK47 has a radar to lock on to.
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so, /simg/, suppose you're a newbie planefag fed-up with waiting for a dynamic Planes&Mercs / Firestorm / MercenaryAirSquadron game (or campaign for a current game).

So you take your 2nd (hell, who am I kidding - 3rd) rate programming skills into making a rough PC copy of a M(erc)A(ir)S(quadron) game (to be expanded later?)

Which genre would you say that game would be?
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>>140015439
>hurling rockets to 30kms is fun.
I rather try figuring out something with sh3...
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>>140018289
>throwing torpedoes to 1500 yds is fun.
it's more about the setup, and the modern game of hide and seek
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>>139983756
I want it I need it
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BMS ops ,anyone ?
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>>140017271
SF2 style, but with a god-tier soundtrack/plane selection/dynamic campagin/modding tools and ~~ MULTIPLAYER~~
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>>140022059

3rd rate programming skills = SF2 style ... if only ...

200+ plane selection (& 200+ weapon selection) + dynamic campaign (Not Just a Brush War style) + modding tools (all the lists in txt) are in the works, though.
As well as bad weather, spotting, stealth, mis-identification, collateral damage, warcrimes, Major Power piss-off & shady corporations ...

And all that programmed on glorious FreeBASIC during free time ... in about 10 year's time ... sigh ...
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>>140016649
your missile missed its original target and hit some poor north korean sap eating his share of the platoon's allocated bread slice

>select all food
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>>140022761
>FreeBASIC

Why even bother m8?
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Never 5get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMzNBcARgWQ&ab_channel=EagleDynamics:DigitalCombatSimulator
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>>140026342
>We'll make a mercs&planes thing, only without the mercs and planes part.

10/10
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>>140026342
>that unsynced out of place step sounds
>that music starts playing
>"well done"
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>>140024824

Cause:
flying low
mountains
bad weather
dodging AAA & Stingers
approaching airfield you're hired to bust
forewarned of enemy F-16 flying nearby
suddenly see a plane-shape silhouete dead ahead
panic.jpg
Guns! Guns! Guns!
Learjet on final with 65 civilian passengers & crew goes down in flames.

tl;dr: Warcrimes fuck yeah!
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Is Squad welcome? It's not really simulation but I need to know whether its shit or not
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>>140026667
>>140027313
Best part is that I'm pretty sure there is a Wags voice file in that trailer, just when he starts attacking the yatch.

Also 1.2.16, lel
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>>140030339
Yeah i think you are right.

Also what poor intern did they get to do it.

>Select boats
well played captcha
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>>140029210
Currently shit. When they add vehicles such as helos, and tanks, it might be fun.
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>>140031204
NO PLANES
N
O

P
L
A
N
E
S

So it's basically worse than PR from the get go.
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>>140031721
Supposedly they plan on adding helos, ground vehicles, AND plens. Pretty ambitious, but I hope it works.
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>>140032139
i thought thought they said.

>See now that we have the UE4 engine, and can basically have humongous maps, we are going to make the maps smaller than PR, because that's what progression means, and our new totally better maps will be to small for planes.
I may be paraphrasing.
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>>140032852
They definitely want to add vehicles

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/offworldindustries/squad/posts/1272444
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>>140034986

>we really want to do x for you guys
>but we need more monies!
>it's for you, I swear!

OK Goldstein McShekel
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>>140035430
400K canadians

What's that like 3000 dollars?
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>>140035430
All I want is something that is decent blend of casual, and more realistic. PR2 is basically this, but the engine is just too old for my liking anymore.
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>>140037408
Same, i just can't handle the bullets coming out of the center of the screens, and the deviation stuff, it's really annoying.

EA could just not be assholes for once and release the source code, but w/e.
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>make a joke to Greg that his formations are shit for a wingman to be in and that an enemy could kill us with one burst he's so close

>it fucking happens
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>>140038085
That's what you get when you fly with Gurg " let me hit you with my plane " the roach.
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>>139997746
This is the greatest post on DCS forums.

I got a screenshot too, I just called it "ruffled_tailfeathers.jpg"

>I BET YOU ONLY FLY SU-27 AND USE R-27ER/ET WHICH MY AIM-120 IS BETTER THAN ANYWAY, WHICH IS WHY I SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE AIM120
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>>140044186
The irony of it all is.

The guy he's replying to is a blufor player, he doesn't even fly the fighters.
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>>140044327
Moral of the story is:

If you don't fly the F-15 and the F-15 only and take 8 AMRAAMs on every sortie, you are probably a filthy delusional slavaboo that probably plays Warthunder and Ace Combat.
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>>140044647
>i seriously only want to fly the Mirage and MiG-21, which has a fucking broken radar currently

>but nope, I'm an Su-27 pilot that just wants easy kills which means the enemy should get to engage in the same faggoty behavior
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>>140044647
>>140044832
LOOK AT YOU SU-27 PILOTS WITH YOU THINK YOU ARE SO COOL WITH YOUR SMOOTH AERODYNAMIC SHAPE. GET OUT!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

but seriously it can easily be balanced though, just give the red side tors and shit, and everything has nice asymmetrical balance, but they probably wont do it.
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>slavboo hugbox hour
I liked it better when you fags moaned about AIM-120s. Why bother flying anything that isn't gods plane? Also why do Slavbos play mental gymnastics with themselves? Is it a way to ground you delusions in your own little distorted reality or are just trying to make yourself feel better?
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>>140045810
m8, I'd gladly fly the F-18 and the Viggen, I just find the F-15 ugly as fuck and it flies like a shitty carnival ride on rails.

I've also been meaning to get into BMS, so F-16 and suc.
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>>140045810
>gods plane [x]
>slavboos [x]
>delusional [x]
You've passed the shitposting checklist cadet. Congrats
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>>140046028
true, i'm not much for those, or the Swedish flying cuck contraptions, but i'll be getting the F-14, and id buy a black/seahawk in a heartbeat, but can't have cool things.

also F-15 a shit.
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DCS: Tankers WHEN?
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>>140046028
It really doesn't feel like it's on rails at all. Maybe pre-pfm, but most definitely not now.
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Hey, /simg/, answer the question below:

-Having a passenger aircraft with two engines tethered together in close proximity sharing nacelles is a:

[ ] bad idea
[ ] TERRIBLE idea
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What's wrong with World of X?
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>>140047189
you get 4 engines, you go faster, absolutely no problem.
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>>140047189
It can't be any worse of an idea than making an airliner with pressurized cabin and square windows.
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>>140047189
muh thrust.
>>
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>>140047521
>what's wrong with world of X?
- their goal isn't simulation, they're mostly, if not all, arcade
-they probably have their own generals

>>140047189
I think it's not a good idea
>if debris hit you, more likely for you to lose more engine
>I would think the mounting of those outter engines wouldn't be as stable

>>140046412
I don't think DCS maps are big enough to need this, but I would get it
>need functional muti-crew to be implement first thou
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>>140047521
1, they have their own generals. If they somehow died overnight I'd rather deal with /a3g/ than those cancerous chucklefucks.
2, they don't simulate anything. They're arcade trash made for sucking money out of people that are too retarded for getting into sims/don't know any better.
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>>140045280

This 2bh.

Russian military has always been a more defensive minded one, that's why they have the best SAM's in the world.

US military has always been offensive minded, thus better almost everything else, aircraft carriers etc.

Let burgerboos have their AIM120s, let slavboos get their based SAMs.

>>140046279

Max kek
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>tfw Leatherneck will never scale up the line of Migs
>tfw no mig 23
>tfw no mig 25
>tfw no mig 27

help
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>>140056502
Well nobody else has attempted a variable-sweep plane yet so assuming the F-14 goes well then LN is probably the developer in the best position to make a MiG-23 or 27. We're probably going to have to wait a while, though.
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>>140054667
>Russian military has always been a more defensive minded one, that's why they have the best SAM's in the world.
>US military has always been offensive minded, thus better almost everything else, aircraft carriers etc.

You are wrong. Both sides evaluated that in case of a conventional war without nukes offensive strategies would be the most useful since they dictated who has the initiative. While Western powers relied mostly on air power with its ability to strike anywhere, fast and precise the East block nations more relied on strategies that were combat proven since WW2 which is heavy assaults on key postions with lots of artillery/MLRS as support.
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>>140045280
I really don't even think it'll be that much of an issue, it's just that I'm going to be hugging Su-27s and MiG-29s more often than I'd have to otherwise.

Might be fun, honestly. I've never experienced Blue Flag like that so I don't know, maybe with coordinated fighter sweeps it won't just dissolve into shitty airquake.
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HIND
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>>140048558
to be fair, no one knew the hazards of having square windows in a pressurized cabin
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>>139983039
you come over unannounced
dressed up you're something else
where you are ain't where it's at, you see,
you're making me
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New shitlord here. I love BMS and DCS, are there people hanging out and playing at brit bong times?
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>>140066762
If by britbong times you mean late at night, then yeah lad. Though I'm normally on all day because I'm a neet
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>>140068128
Thanks anon, i shall swing by the ts tomorrow and say hi, i'll even tell you my callsign
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>>140043925
Jesus, almost wonder what happened to the crew.
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>>140069827
It was a drone, that give has frames edited out otherwise you'd see the lightpost striking its wing.
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>>140069827
>>140070059
And here is the proofs: https://youtu.be/kKFE90sWqx8
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>>140045810
>>140046279
To be honest famzilla you missed a couple crucial buzzwords.
>gods plane [x]
>slavboos [x]
>delusional [x]
>butthurt [ ]
>104 KILLS, ZERO LOSSES [ ]
>stay mad [ ]
>tears [ ]
8/10 shitpost
YOU FAILED THE CHECKLIST CADET
t. the wewiest lad
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>>140057424

Of course both sides have offensive and defensive strategies, no question. But in general Russian/Soviet military was built to defend it self against a large invasion through Europe (hense the bloc countries), where as the US military was built with global reach in mind (carriers, bases fucking everywhere)

I might be totally wrong tho.
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BMS ops WHEN
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>>140059843

If all you fly is CAP it might feel a little like air quake, but it actually has a purpose. All roles are important which makes it fun.

Last night we were fucking around on the server and for one airfield attack we had

2 CAP
1 CAS
1 SEAD
1 Attack heli
1 Transport heli
1 GCI controlling the mess.

When the server is full, shit feels like a real operation, especially when everyone is in the team speak.

I'm hype.
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I hate to ask, but how do I install Falcon? Or should I buy it off Steam?
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>>140073823
almost every general has spoonfed stuff in the OP and even then there's people who fail to see it
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R-77's on Su-27 when
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>>140074886
Why would you want that?
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>>140075063

active missiles that actually hit more than 1 out of 50 shots
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>>140075150
>R-77s
>Hitting anything
Top kek lad
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>>140075150
>that actually hit more than 1 out of 50 shots
Then you want something that isn't the R-77.
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>>140075315
>>140075316

But ER's are just as bad. I'd rather have a bad active missile then a bad semi
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>>140075721
There is a reason why most of the good Su-27 pilots either eject the ERs or use them for creating a missile launch warning and nothing more than that.
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>>140075921

So you're saying a fully loaded Su-27 gets 6 usable good missiles, 4 of which are close range IR's??

Why would anyone ever fly it then?
I might as well fly the MiG-29.
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>>140076319
Because it has a way better flight model than the MiG-29 and more fuel.
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>>140076283
>he doesn't use the JATO pods at all times even when totally uncalled for
You don't like short takeoff runs, crazy acceleration, and enough Gs to make you shit your pants?
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>p 10
Not so fast
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>>140072664
My group's running a bunch of shit for BF as well, we should maybe coordinate with da bois a bit for big ops? We're planning to nuke the shit out of Tbilisi from time to time if they're not restricted, would be nice to have extra SEAD coverage and some CAP.

We were also testing a bit before and after when I saw you guys on. I'm assuming BF will start this weekend or sometime shortly afterward, hype is reaching peak.
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>>140074532
M8 my problem is it's asking for Falcon 4.0 CD or file, but there wasn't one as far as I Can tell for the install of 4.33
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>>140082829 see >>139997460
You need to have falcon installed too, you can no longer get away with only the exe
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>>140083839
I figured that much, is there a download link for 4.0? or does the steam version suffice?
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>>140084213
Im downloading it from here
http://contorrents.com/falcon-4-0-original-iso-t1349707.html
Despite the counter saying no one is seeding, it has 3 seeders.
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>>140080485
come to the teamspeak.
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>10
Not again
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Hornet Online when?
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blue flag in a nut shell so far

>tfw kill everything on the field
>tfw stuff respawns as our troop carrier gets there.
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>>140092149
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>>140092570

I will say we almost captured the field with just 1 fighter, 2 strikers, and 1 heli.

Would have worked perfectly, but our heli pilot was GCI for the most part, so we took just a little to long.
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>>140092747
I wasn't in TS or anything, but to me it seems like if you guys just coordinated it a little bit better even with the small group that was around you could've done it.

A single helo seems to have enough firepower and loiter time to wipe out an entire airfield as long as there's air cover. Between that and spanking the radars ahead of time it doesn't seem too difficult.

Of course that's on a practically empty server though, and in the real world it's going to be a hell of a lot more chaotic.

Fast jet SEAD when?
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>>140092956

Thats exactly it. We killed everything, but then the GCI had to get in the chopper, and stuff came back.

But still fun for practice. You should definitely join us. Another player that knows whats going on is always a big help.

Redfor 4th gen module when?
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>>140093408
I'm flying with advpros and also not the dude you're talking to, but I'm down to coordinate the flights I wind up leading with 4chan whenever, I'll hop on TS over the next few nights and get acquainted with all you fucks, it'll be nice to have big coordinated ops between multiple wings going on within the framework of whatever other fucks are doing.
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>>139974924

How about tabletop simulator?
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>>140092747

You autists still playing Blue Flag?
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>>140095426
no
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>>140095426
real autists fight ai and claim they're good at the game
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>>140093954
>>140094216
Shit quality, I know. Someday I'll learn the art of making proper webms.
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>>140096827
Silly anon that's not how you spell 104th. Also have some OC.
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>>140097978
Based Krasniye
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>>140097978
that's fucking hilarious
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>>140085797
link isn't working for me.
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>>140099641
I propose it to be the new representation of the 104th in simg
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>>140075315
>>140075316

Actually speaking of the R-77. Did ED ever confirm they were bad or say anything about plans to improve them at all?

AFAIK they are under-modeled in DCS and over-modeled in BMS.
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3 бoйз and some helicopters

FARP destroyed
FARP captured

Based heli ops
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>>140101767
Classified sekrit documents
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>>140101130
you're doing something wrong
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>>140101772

WATCH EKRAN
UNDER ATTACK
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>>140101772
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>>140102834
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DCS is really pretty sometimes
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>R-27ER.jpg
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>AIM-120C.jpg
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>>140104565
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>"tovarish comandeer! Brand new R-27ER missile is ready for killings of americanski F-15! With our new Su-27, F-15's are havings no chance!! xaxa"
>"Mr. Sukhoi, i have bad news. We have reports the amerikansi have new missile. Is bigger, faster, and has its own radar! All of your hard work is for nothing. I'm sorry comrade"
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>>140106163

>"Put IR sensor on and call it a day then, ura."
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Thread gonna die again
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>>140109560
good wgg wil rise agin
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>>140106163
>"cyka bylat, Mikoyan was right again"
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>>139938176
>mfw people still use my badge design, albeit modified, even after I left months ago
I love you guys. <3
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>>140113492
>he's not wearing the yellow and black scarf
fuk outta here
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>>140113492
Wait... Wuts going on?
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>>140113492
>out of all games he could play
>he fucking chosen Ace Combat
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>>140114559
probably to get responses like this
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>>140076680
>taking off with no countermeasures
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>>140116776
>tfw you build a mission has know there are no enemies
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planes desu
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The Armenian genocide never happened.
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BMS ops WHEN
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>>140123424
BMS ops WHO?
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>>140123538
BMS ops HOW?
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>>140123729
BMS ops SOON?
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>>140127282
Mechas are retarded
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>>140134478
It's an abstract kind of bailout
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>>140101879
I dunno, it gets to the 'file should load automatically' but it doesn't do anything
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>>140134478
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Greetings fellow 3rd gen fanbois

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ltpi28rgSU
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>>140151486
>Made by a modding team and released for free
>Still better than the Hawk

VEAO BTFO
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>>139977828
>>
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>>140151486
>SFM
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>>140154441
>a mod
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>>139974924
Can anyone tell me where I can find Silent Hunter 3 career mode saves?

I fucked up a mod install and forgot to back up beforehand.
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>>140154584
>SFM
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>>140076283
I love the rugged look of the MiG-21, both inside and out it looks like some salvaged junker plane you'd see in like a post apocalyptic movie or something
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>>140154805
x:\Users\x\Documents\SH3\data\cfg\Careers\name
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>>140155132
Spasibaw.
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>>139974924
>(you let it die edition)
S-s-sorry sempai, my computer died on Sunday and I've only just been able to get back here.
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Anybody use TrackIR for their games?
I tried setting up my phone for headtracking but it doesn't seem to want to work.
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>>140160753
>Anybody use TrackIR for their games?
Yes, it's great. Though cheaper options like Delanclip are available and from what I hear work fine top.
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>>140161161
Do you really need the trackclip to use TrackIR? or is that just an add-on
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>>140161689
You need to have either a TrackClip or TrackClipPro for the camera to track your head movement, a TrackClip is included with every unit and mine came with the TrackClipPro too but afaik you can buy it without the Pro if you really want.

People complain the Pro is flimsy and it's true, but I just superglued mine in an acceptable position a few years ago and haven't had any problems since.
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>>140162137
I'm considering ordering one at my next paycheque, since I can't get the smartphone to set up properly, and the IR tracker I set up on my hat is only somewhat reliable when my room is completely dark.
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What flight controls would ideally be assigned to a button box?

I'm making one because I want to try it, mostly playing American truck simulator and Elite dangerous, I'm quite new to flight simulators so I need some help.
Il-2 Sturmovik Battle for Stalingrad is what I'm going to use this for mostly but might get something else later.

Will be using On/Off switches and regular momentary buttons for this project.
>>
I don't want to sound like a shill, but TrackIR is great. It works perfectly, at least with the pro clip.

Worth the money IMO.
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>>140163627
I'd go with gear and lights if it's just on/off switches
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>>140167667
Well I could put some more stuff on it, any suggestions?
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Help me I'm shit at refueling with the Mirage
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>>140169293
I had never bothered to try refueling with anything, so I tried last night with the F-15 since I figured it would be easiest to learn with babby cliffs. Turns out that holy shit it's hard, I really need to git gud. I'll try with the Mirage next, is probe and drogue any easier to do?
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>>140168403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZQfZNzZUDc
Not him but this guy has something you might want to check.
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>>140169547
I can teach you f-15
It's really easy once you get a method to the madness.
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>>140169547
It's terrible, I don't know which is the most difficult, accelerating to catch up to it, having to slowly synchronise to its speed, the "contact" which places an ugly model on your plane that blocks half of your vision AND making you unable to see the plane or the fact that it slows the fuck down the second you move too much to the left/right and you have to resynchronize your speed to it, then get pre contact clearance and accelerate again. What a fucking mess.
>>
>>140169840
>>140170028
Is refueling still bugged in single player where probe doesn't move until you achieve contact?
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>>140162137
So, what's so much better about the Pro compared to the TrackClip?
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>>140173705
Pro has LEDs, Clip just has reflectors. Accuracy I guess? The fact you don't have to wear a fucking hat too.
>>
Euro Truck Simulator 2

Did they remove the dashboard customization for Scania Streamline Topline? I had those Christmas decorations on, and now the are gone and I can't place the new Rocket League car either.
>>
>F-15 taxis by the tower
>See it has AIM120's
>get triggered

>aircraft coming back to base
>"Say type aircraft?"
>"Gods plane"
>max triggered

Gonna end it all lads. I can't escape.
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>>140169293
Don't sweat it, so are the Frenchies IRL
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>>140169293
>air refueling
>in DCS
Yeah good luck with that, because the map is soooo big with very few airports and all missions have it.
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>>140169785
>Georgian skin

Into the trash.
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>>140169547
Between Falcon BMS, the Su-33, and F-15, I find the F-15 the hardest by far. It's so much twitchier and sensitive to you even breathing too hard whereas the F-16 makes it easy mode and the Su-33 with the basket gives you a lot of leeway.
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>>140179835
Su-33 is SFM, so that's pointless
BMS, dampens your controls when you go to air refuel, because reasons, also the flight model is simpler than DCS.
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http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164894

Absolute madman tier.
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Are there any good simulators that let your drive the Japanese Bullet Trains.
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>>140175558
Good luck getting any kind of response here unless its about some shitty Jet plane simulator.
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>>140180067
My point was that the FC3 F-15C is the hardest thing out there to refuel of the planes I've tried and for anon not to get too down if he finds it hard as shit.
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Holy fuck IL2 never again.

Remind me never to fly a plane that doesnt have at least a radar.

Call me a casual but fuck that shit
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>>140183127
There's a reason for that :)
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>>140183608
t. person with the situational awareness of a cat in heat
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>>140183608
I will now call you a casual fuck.

You are a casual fuck.
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>>140183964
About Bader, his plane had a stick with twist instead of rudder pedals, right?
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>>140184269
I'm sure he had pedals, he had fake legs after all, not no legs at all
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>>140183608
is having to use your eyes and common sense too hard?
If it makes you feel better, I find spotting in il-2 1946 harder than it is in CloD and BoS
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>>140184507
How would you even properly dose the applied strength if your legs were amputated below the knees? I'm pretty sure a twist stick would've been better, if only marginally so.
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>>140184729
IIRC they modified the pedals to accomodate his legs, instead of convering a spit to a twist stick rudder, which would have been more trouble than it was worth seeing as these pedal modifications could fit to any plane
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>>140184729
If it's below the knees it's not hard. The motion of moving rudder pedals (barring stuff like toe brakes anyway) is all in your legs, not your feet. You move your leg stump up/down like always and you'll depress the rudder pedals like always.
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Does anyone have a replacement for Jane's Fighters Anthology that they would recommend?
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>>140184269
>>140184507
>>140184729
>>140184952
>>140184989
In his book, he recalls how easy it was to operate the rudder pedals with his prosthetic legs, it was so easy to the point where he could just straight up fly any plane without any sort of modifications or anything.
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>>140184534
90% of the issue was spotting. I turned of AA for some reason and planes were phasing in and out of nowhere. I find the DCS sabre and mig 15 easier to spot, fly and shoot. Props just dont work for me and seeing dudes dissapear was annoying
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>>140185328
DCS
BMS
Strike fighters 2

and erm, that's pretty much it.
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please let /wgg/ into here

we wont kick you out again
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>>140185529
Flying an aeroplane presents no difficulty unless it is equipped with foot brakes. Up to the beginning of the war all British aeroplanes were equipped with a rudder control which was either a bar pivoted in the middle (so that pressure by either foot swung the bar) or there were two complete foot pedals which moved up and

You pushed with your right foot for right rudder and vice versa. Now, if you place your foot on a bar and push you can do that from your thigh and your shin without actually having to depress your foot in relation to your shin.


That's the quote from the man himself.

Barring of course that converting a plane to twist stick rudder just for one man is a fucking dumb idea too
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>>140185957
no
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>>140185957
no kill yourself /wgg/ should be dead and should stay dead.
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>>140185957
Eugene babbies need not apply, everyone else can stay, even the CoHfags.
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>>140185957
You'll shit posts will ruin it further, the 1 eugene babbie expat is bad enough.
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>>140186509
No, all of them stay go
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>>140185957
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>>140186091
Did you read "Reach for the Sky"? Great book. Amazing the sort of shit Bader went through whilst keeping his tip top brit BANTER.
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>>140186509
desu graviteam tactics and hexposters were pretty chill
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>>140187469
CMANO fags are like our long lost brethren.

>>140188391
That's my point.
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Why is night time /simg/ always either practically dead or in full shitposting mode.
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>>140193059
Because fuck
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>>140193059
cause im playing war sundar
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>>140193204
Fuck what?
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>>140193059
All of this is in burger time.
>morning to noon-ish: decent/interested ng posts
>close to dinner time: shit post starts
>late night: ded thread, constant bumps required.
Just another usual day at /simg
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BMS ops WHEN
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>>140194594
Dunno
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>>140194594
BMS ops NO
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>>140193059
I come home from work at around 4 ish.
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>>140195567
>Can't even into paint

F-15 memers everyone.
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>>140196046
b-b-but i made that with paint
it took me 9000 hours
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>>140196353
It's like I'm really in 2007 /b/.
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>>140196506
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>>140196836
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http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2756310&postcount=991
>IMPLYING YOUR SERVER IS ANY BETTER
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>gotta register to download the lastest BMS update
for what fucking purpose
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>>140199797
http://www.e-haf.org/PublicFTP/320/BMS_4.33/Falcon_BMS_4.33_U1_Setup.zip

They've always required an account, no idea why.
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>>140199797
>Account takes like 5 minutes to make
>By the fact of "needing an account" is a pain
I understand anon
not being able to ddl patches, eventually drove me to making an account thou
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> http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2758250&postcount=995
BAN IN 5...
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>>140200809
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>>140200014
Modding communities are odd. I've seen several of them doing this shit for no reason. Thanks for the link.

>>140200627
>register
>only use account to download what's needed and nothing else
>never post
I dont understand why they like to force people to register. Maybe its just for their e-penis and flaunting how many users they have.
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>>140201093
They delete your account after a month if you never make a post as well.
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>>140201269
They also have the "one account per person" policy and they'll ban you if you make another one, right? At least IL-2 modding isn't that retarded.
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>>140201269
please be joking
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>>140201839
He's not. Of course, all this means is that there's a big thread of people posting "Don't delete me"
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>>140201269
>>140202060
Well, that means my account is about to get deleted or already has been
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>>140202060
>they have a fucking thread for that
I could dig it if it were once per year, but once per month is too retarded. At least it made me laugh.
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>>140202232
Ban Greg when?
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>>140202938
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>>140203721
>>140203493
>being an asshole
lel
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Post fat planes.
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>>140205617
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>>140205617
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>>140206687
Flying targets dont count. Only planes that will actually make a difference in an actual war
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So I'm at a wall.

I love X-Plane 10.
Great framerate and controls and all that shit.
However the AI traffic handling is absolutely shit and there is hardly any "paid" cracked payware out there.

And I like Microsoft Flight Sim X -SE
Lots of payware out there for free, best flight traffic, ground traffic, airport liveliness.
However the framerate is absolute dogshit. Crashes often and lot more bugs and complications.

Why are flight sims so fucking hard. REEEEEEEE

Pic Related. A320 in FSX, REX. ENB.
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>>140207486
>Implying Vietnam wasn't an actual war
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>Just watched By Dawn's Early Light

Pretty good movie about the AF during WWIII, it also includes exclusive footage of the Secretary of Interior becoming president!
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>>140213846
>>140215054
The recoil of those cannons is pretty brutal. I cant get more than 3 rounds without losing stability.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ltpi28rgSU

The first flight video of the Buccaneer by BANA, a community dev. They will be releasing this for free and in alpha it already looks better than VEAO's shitter plane.
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Can anyone explain to me projectile jump? When you sideslip a plane, the rudder guide @ simhq said the shots wont go where you aimed, what exactly did they mean?
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Buloop
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CLOD OPS WHEN
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>>140226336
BoS ops WHEN
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>>140226484
BoM ops WHEN

o wait, never.
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>>140220356
To be honest, I cant remember. I just engraved in my mind that sideslipping is awful for several reasons and never looked back.
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Is IL-2 BoS any good? I used to play 1946 all the damn time. I only just recently found out about this "CUP" megamod for 1946 and I'm wondering how 1946 with CUP compares to BoS.
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>>140220356
It has to do with rifled guns and how the spinning bullet interacts with the air if it's not traveling straight into the apparent wind. It'll either cause the bullet to hit high or low depending on the direction of the slip.
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Looks like real pilots are learning some tricks from airquakers

http://www.king5.com/news/plane-lands-taxiway-instead-runway-sea-tac-airport/45182689
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>>140226336

Join the Storm of War server and speak to any 92 Sqn guys you see. Or try to get in touch with someone from ACG.

CloD Ops are best Ops for WW2 sims these days.

>>140226484

>BoS
>Airquake erryday

ftfy
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>>140226653

BoS has nothing to do with old Il-2. They just bought the name for publicity. BoS overpriced DLC, memeplanes and Russian bias served up on a shitty game engine that will die if it has to render more than 20 objects at any one time.
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>>140226653
Yah its pretty great if you buy it on sale, It's come a long way since launch. >>140229152
Have you even played it?
>Russian bias
Kekekeke, I wish.
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>>140226653
Get it from G2A . Not worth the full price on steam.
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>>140220356
do you mean sideslip or crab?

>>140229940
>the pastebin said its broken and fked up
is that still the case?
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>>140230454
>the pastebin said its broken and fked up
The game itself is goat, it's CloD that's a complete mess.

However full disclosure, BoS is almost ruined by the dumb unlocks. If you can bring yourself to fly a few campaign missions in each plane to get them all it's great fun though.
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>>140231738
i see, just the unlock system huh?
that's not too bad, if the campaigns aren't broken. they aren't broken are they?
if not broken,I might get it.
got some tips on what to do and what not to do?
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>>140231738
>CloD that's a complete mess
The dumb AI really ruins it, otherwise it doesnt seem bad.
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Are hexposters allowed here?
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>>140232482
>i see, just the unlock system huh?
If you buy the cheap key off of G2A you'll have to unlock planes too, though it seems boxed copy holders start with them all unlocked.

Anyway, the unlock tree for each plane looks like this. For reference, a successful mission on Sim difficulty with you starting on the runway will net you 200-300xp. Using time acceleration to fly to the target and back missions can take around 15mins.

The campaign is functional, if dry and devoid of any real story.

It's certainly worth the $10 purchase off G2A imo.
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>>140232482
>just the unlock system
Personally for me the unlock system is the least of its problems. Unlocking stuff for a plane can be done really quick on realism setting.

>if the campaigns aren't broken
I cannot comment on BoM, but for BoS the campaigns are virtually nonexistant. There is this """"dynamic"""" campaign thing, but in reality it just generates random mission without any coherence. It is nice to have, but don't expect too much.

With that being said, I think it is very nice to play and although there are no clickable cockpits the simulation is decent enough. It is just that you will get bored of it eventually because there is not much to do in its current state.
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>>140232881
We're not wargames general, our whole point of existing was that sharing a thread with mouth-breathing strategy needs was suffering.

You're better off trying to start a /stratag/
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meme plen
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>>140235107
Also we got kicked out of wargaming general because they didn't want us having fun in their threads.

go figure which one still remains, shit, simg's been growing a little bit, and the niche both /wgg/ and /simg/ respectively fill basically doesn't allow for growing communities.
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TrackIR
y/n?
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>>140235964
You can make your own for pretty cheap, or buy something like DelanClip. Not really much reason to pay the extra money for an actual TIR.
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>>140235964
If you're too lazy to do a DIY rig, it's a reliable option but there're cheaper alternatives available now, some assembly required.
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>he keeps posting
>thinks R-27ER/ET is a good missile
>the AIM-7, which he'd be allowed to use no matter what has a longer effective range/killzone than the ET, so he shouldn't have to worry unless he fucks up and gets within range of the Sukhoi
>only slightly less effective range than the R-27ER, it's basically a 2nm difference
>fucking pointless comparison because the ER/ET wouldn't be fielded against the AIM-7M, which already outperforms the missiles the Su-27 was previously allowed to field.

I think I found the problem. simo is bad.
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>>140235964
d e l a n c l i p
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>mfw JUST realized the f35 has no hud
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>>140241804
Wait what?
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>>140241804
It does, it's just inside the helmet. No reason to have it on a little piece of glass when you can display it literally anywhere.
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>>140241825
Literally no hud. Everything is done through the pilot's helmet.
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>>140241987
It's not a HUD then. it's a HMD
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>>140237182
>his response was hurr I was being sarcastic.

This nigga is an idiot, he's calling for conditions if which I remember correctly red won under last time
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Is there a gut and recent business-shop management game?
a game where you do the business, buy things, sell them for a higher price but in a modern setting, something like "Recettear" but without the dungeon thing

I like stardew valley and I played pretty much every kairosoft game
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Falcon Steam or GOG?
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>>140245004
GOG, just pirate the GOG version
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Are these any good for IL-sturmovik? Anyone have any experience?
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>>140235783
>confusing eugene babbies with based hexposters
I bet you fly F-15, retard
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>>140250945
These

http://www.cockpitsimparts.co.uk/category.php?id_category=10
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>>140250986
Harsh.
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>>140226998
It's the same reason that the rotation of a ball changes a pitch's path in baseball. The rotation coupled with cross-sectional relative wind makes for a higher pressure on the part of the body that is rotating in to the wind. The principles are really similar to those of a cambered airfoil.
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>>140242003
>>140241804
Nah, the hud is projected onto the canopy.
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>>140254097
[citation needed]
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>>140229940
>>140229152
>>140230182
How is the CUP mod pack for 1946?
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>>140254097
It's all in the helmet you retard
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>>140256847
Lots of content, some is good, some is bad, bad performance because of how IL-2 works.
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>>140169293
Refueling is a lot easier in real life.

Apparently VR makes it alot easier along with low level flying.
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How do I find a good explanation of unguided bombing for CCIP and manual bombing without some nerd being deliberately vague and truncating specifics to signal that this is just 'basic stuff' and he's a lot smarter than you??
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>>140259151
Set HUD to CCIP
Put piper on target
Bombs away
Don't die

That's all you need to do really, dunno what this cunt is on about
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>>140259718
Well there's more to it than that, dive angle, speed and altitude can change the effectiveness of the pipper and that stuff is about getting in the right parameters to release. Also you're supposed to have 1.0g when you release or the pipper won't be accurate.
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>>140248683
It's too bad that plane was so shit. It looks like a space fighter.
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Should I buy falcon 4 from steam or pirate?
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>>140261341
pirate
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>>140260171
In the F-16? The CCIP pipper is pretty damn accurate in my experience. Just put the pipper in target, don't fly like a retard, and you're fine. In all likelihood when doing CCIP bombing you will be the weakest link when it comes to accuracy, not the F-16.
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>>140185957
>kick us out of your general
>now you want to be in our general
Lol, no.
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>>140201093
Stops bots eating their data.
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>>140260171
>>140261609
I did a CCIP run in the F-16 once and I was all over the show due to dodging SAMs and AAA,
Chances are if you need to be accurate then you shouldn't be CCIPing dumb bombs anyway
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http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2758458&postcount=339

Starway's textures reduced in price to $10.
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>>140262635
>http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2758458&postcount=339
That's a step in the right direction I guess
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W H E N
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How many people here actually understand BFM
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>>140263060
None of us
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>>140263060
I have a vague understanding, I don't just fly tip to tail in BoS anyway.
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>>140263060
What do you mean by "understand".
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>>140263060
I learned my BFM from Battlefield 1942.
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>>140259151
>14 steps to dropping fucking dumb bombs
>when it's basically >>140259718
>All these aviation buzzwords thrown about to make him seem SMRT

What a mongoloid
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>>140262635
>paying for textures when free mod textures look better
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>>140263060
"Who needs to know BFM when you have missiles" - 4th gen babbies
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>>140263929
Those mountains look sexy af
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>>140263929
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>>140263929
>>140264135
The mountains look good but the hills are a bit shit desu, all the free texture packs are hampered since they're tile-based whereas the DLC is like NTTR in that it has satellite-based textures afaik.
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>>140262635
$7.50 would be a more reasonable price, but I might consider $10.
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>>139955329
Can you add a Yuri Gagarin statue peeking out from either behind the mountains or the upper left corner? That picture could be much more A e s t h e t i c.
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>>140264336
Starways textures are still tile based. Satellite based just means he based the tiles on satellite pictures like literally all texture packs.
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>>140265698
They really don't look tile based to me, source?
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Can someone explain why the DCS 3rd party art designers are such precious cunts, when they're probably getting paid loads?

RAZBAM and VEAO are going to fucking murder some of the best aircraft that they've called dibs on because their art leads are sensitive faggots that interpret constructive criticism as ego death. And clearly the other devs are too beta to call them out on their shit work. I've been waiting years for an A-6 Intruder and now RAZBAM are going to do it like wtf m8?? They wont face it that the mirage cockpit is wonky.

There was this one thread on the BAE Hawk where someone pointed out that the glass wasn't even 3D and then the art lead pretended he couldn't see it despite everyone agreeing. hate these cunts
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>>140265795
If his textures could somehow completely change how the terrain is both stored and displayed, this would be a much bigger deal than just some texture pack.
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>>140266080
>aircraft that they've called dibs on
Spoiler: that doesn't mean jackshit.
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>>140266350
So ED are going to release a better Mirage 2000? Nope.
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>>140266431
They can, as they NEVER gave exclusivity from a legal standpoint. They even made a statement about that, particularly concerning the L-39 and Aviodev.
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>>140266646
But it's no longer viable to release a different version because it will just confuse people and might have an increased price.
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>>140258908
That's because, as long as you're a boom receiver, you just park the plane and the tanker's boom operator makes the contact
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>>140263929
>>140264135
What game is this?
>Pls no abbreviations for babby.
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>>140267996
DigitalCombatSimulator
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>>140263060
Get the Jane's FA big book and it teaches basic lead-lag geometry, energy management, and out-of-plane maneuvers.

I don't think anyone here is trying to pass IFF.
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>>140266825
From what I understood they also have the right of taking over, so no new version, the module would just be maintained by ED.
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>>140256847

I use HSFX and some other cosmetic mods of my own choosing. It has basically all the same stuff though, there's never been any real content disparity between UP and HSFX, they're just set up for different purposes (co-op vs single player)
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>>140232604

Well you can add over 100 dumb AI to CloD and they don't seem so bad then. Good luck getting more than 20 to in BoS without the game crashing or playing at half speed.
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>>140268792
CUP has shittons of flyable planes that HSFX doesn't have.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg0Jj-2x5rM

sleep tight lads
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Drunk ops when?
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>>140265795
>>140266306
You know it's impossible, at least in this day and age and as long as computers have a memory cap for it to not be tile based right?
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>>140271925
Tonight if I can get to the shops today?
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>>140273721
How does NTTR work then?
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>>140273812
Different textures, lots of different textures, high resolution textures that are tiled and i suspect alpha blending.

basically any modern game ever.
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>>140273812
Forgot to add, when it's really well done you'll have no idea a texture is being tiled, also there's magic shit they do today, where they can basically LOD textures, so at close range it's one texture and then faraway it changes to another texture.
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I think I might take the plunge with these textures now the price has gone down. 10 dollars is still 10 dollars too much but we have to deal with jews in the flight sim game anyway
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>>140277165
But bartheks ones are better anyway, and there's already a better looking towns mod.
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>>140277165
>this is dumb and I know this is dumb and not worth my money so I'm going to buy it
Just remember that when DCS goes full Jew where you're paying for clouds, wingman AI, and functioning ATC, fucks like you are the one that told ED that's okay and that's the way forward.
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>>140278124
Want better carrier model?

40 bucks


oh wait.
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>>140278124
>fucks like you are the ones that told ED it was OK
>I've been banned for calling the community cucks
Ok famalam
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micro stuttering is finally removed, lads. silky smooth huey times are here again.
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>blue flag soon
>8 ship cap flights soon
>heli ops supported by SEAD overflights soon
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>>140281146
And yet here you are saying that you're thinking of buying it anyway.
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>>140285297
since when?
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>>139974924
>Rise of flight isn't on the welcome sims list

Casuals, all of you
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In all seriousness tho, we've got a few around here that are determined to rip the textures. If we can pull that off maybe we can rip any other future terrain/model bullshit like this.
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>>140290170
If it wasn't me and 6 other that were still left playing Rise of Flight, maybe it'd be on the list, anon.

Game's dead so far as multiplayer goes, which sucks, because RoF was pretty fuckin good.
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>>140290170
Learn to read you stupid nigger.
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>>140288757
10 bucks is fuck all in britbong money senpai, we're never getting it for free and the default textures are eye cancer
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>>140290170
>example of welcome sims
>example
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>>140290000
since I forced HPET timing
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>>140291129
10bucks is fuck all in real money too, bonger.

Still not certain textures are worth that, though.
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>>140292941
I'll reserve my judgement til after release, if they're genuinely good I'll consider it.
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>>140291129
I'm not talking about the price. I'm talking about the message you're sending to ED by buying it in the first place, especially when comparable and arguably better mods exist for free.

Money talks, and ED only listens to money. Why bother fixing the stock textures when they can make money off selling the fix?
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>>140271925
>>140273726

Someone say drunk ops tonight? Ima pick up a 6 pack on the home from work if so
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BMS ops WHEN
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>>140208960
Where do you get your payware from familia? I want some of dat good shit but I'm cheap af.
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>>140293225
No you're right. I'll not buy it but shitspawn stifles any vocal opposition
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Guys Bluefags have stacked and they took Sochi. Da Bois gotta go take it back from nato pig-dogs.
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>>140296757
it's just testing, anon.

When the fuck does this thing actually start anyway? Still no real announcement.
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>>140297302
29th they're aiming for. Greg himself on the forum said sometimes next week.

this is their greg, not ours by the way
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>>140297457
I figured as much. The 29th is just in two days and last I checked they were still going through some changes to the fuel system for chopperbros.

I figure it may not actually start until mid-next week if that's the case, I didn't know they were shooting for this Friday, shit.
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Who here has heard of John Boyd?
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>>140268183
What's this big book you speak of?
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>>140268183
What does IFF stand for?
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>>140300882
Identification of Friend or Foe
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>>140302348
I thought it would be something else, as I can seem to figure out how a person could "pass IFF"?
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>>140302629
You need to know who has the red stars on their planes.
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>>140252940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtP_bh2lMXc
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>>140302629
IFF is sometimes known as IFF Interrogation. If someone passes your interrogation that means that they aren't an enemy.
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>>140302629
iff works by lets say your aircraft sending a ping to a plane "X" infront of you . ONce the ping reaches X plane It should recognize the code in the signal sent by your plane and respond correctly back to your plane . Now if that ping hits an enemy plane ,his iff wont know how to respond to it and will show up as a bandit on your radar. In US planes you would get betty saying "IFF" when the plane was pinged and does not know how to respond to it .
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>>140302693
>>140303242
I'm talking about this post>>140268183, why would IFF have anything to do with a book about maneuvers and stuff?
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>>140304216
I guess "passing IFF" could also refer to getting within visual range, where IFF and your radar are probably a bit too late to be of much good to you.

That's where you need BFM.

Not the anon you were responding to, nor the one that sparked this, not sure what the fuck he was trying to communicate, clearly it didn't work.
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>>140303242
More accurately, passing IFF means they're friendly.

A civilian craft would fail IFF as would a hostile aircraft. Failing IFF simply means the target is most likely not a friendly aircraft, although it could still be if the IFF malfunctions or the wrong codes are being used.
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>>140304069
Thanks for the detailed response.

>>140305282
Yeah, I wonder what the poster of that post meant.
Anywhere to find good info/read on BFM and such?
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I really wish DCS planes had an easy way to coordinate with bullseye. It's such a pain trying to work out directions to and from GCI.
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>>140307505
Have him call it out in BRAA.
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>>140307732
That only works when its AWACS talking to you. When you want to communicate to other planes you can't give bulls. Same with calling out anything to AWACS that they can't see for whatever reason.
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>>140308363
I'm saying have your GCI call out the bandit in reference to you. Not bulls.
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>>140305597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCFMX5z-ed4

There's a book by the same name of this that's pretty good as I recall, otherwise there's a bunch of online resources with shortish pictorial aids, had a good site a while ago I'm trying to find again, I'll post it when I do. Been a few months, can't find it in browser history for the life of me.
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>>140309954
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=A9B0A8DD57956C5D55BD655967E26599
This one?
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>>140310208
that's the badger.
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>>140309954
There's also the autism folder that is in the pastebin, I'm curious about the "bunch of online resources with shortish pictorial aids" though.
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>>140309954
I will be looking forward to when you find your link

>>140310208
Thanks for the link, to me to get reading.

Always nice to find helpful peeps on the Internet.
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>>140308867
Yes I know. I'm saying that not having a good way to give bulls sucks when you're talking to nearby pilots or GCI about targets they can't see.
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>>140310780
Basically, I'd found a site like this: http://www.combataircraft.com/en/Tactics/Air-To-Air/

But with much more detailed paragraphs explaining what's going on in each example. Actually not that short from what I recall, pretty informative without being too much to take in.
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Anyways I still can't find what I was looking for, so here's a 450 page .pdf on jet combat, from a book by Robert Shaw.

http://www.imagery.vnfawing.com/PDF-Archive/Fighter-Combat-Tactics-and-Maneuvering.pdf
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>>140311032
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Off topic-ish.
I was reading about pilot training and I came across this "students will fly the T-37 mastering contact, instrument, low-level and formation flying."

>instrument flying
Fly while only using your instruments, okay
>Low-level flying
Self explanatory
>formation flying
Same here

>contact (flying)
?? What's this?
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>>140313605
http://www.faraim.org/aim/aim-4-03-14-383.html

Most likely referring to a contact approach. See AIM 5-4-25
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>>140304216
Introduction to Fighter Fundamentals. It's the course that comes after pilot training. Sorry for the vague acronym.

There's a half-phonebook worth of material that comes with Jane's Fighters Anthology that has a ton of BFM basics in it. It's one of the things that got me interested in military aviation.
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>>140313605
Contact phase refers to VFR only flying. Basic "can you plane and not die?". No VFR on top, instructor is required to fly through the weather. This is also where students first solo. I always thought it was because of "visual contact" with the ground, which allows for a discernable, even horizon for establishing pitch and flare picture references.
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Daily reminder that Russians are fucking scum

One dude in BoS had 26 kills and 2 deaths because despawning doesn't count as a death and so he'd do that when someone was on his tail he couldn't shake
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>>140315021
so, kind of like the opposite of instrument flying that you look outside the cockpit instead of inside of the cockpit?
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>>140316081
Axis powers best powers desu
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>>140316081

>basing opinions of a people by their behavior in a video game
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>>140316442
Yes. Using the ADI and HSI are frowned upon, and using the horizon for pitch and ground references for positioning and navigation are preferred, though you still ensure compliance with procedures by backing them up with instruments.
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>>140316826
>Implying most vatniks you meet online aren't scum anyway
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>>140316940

>implying most people you meet online aren't scum anyway
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>>140317372
t-thanks
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>>140316929
I see. Thanks for the explanation anon.
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>>140317372
>tfw most of the people I meet online is bro tier
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>when you look over and discover the guy you're flying with is a faggot that only brought AMRAAMs
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>>140321239
Give him some 20mm aspirin and then defect.
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Can someone please explain this warcrimes meme?
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>>140321819
>using chemical warfare on civilian population
>not a warcrime
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>>140290170
It is, though, you stupid faggot
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>>140321239
>using only slammers
If this was BMS you would friendlyfire the shit out of furballs Seriously these DCS babies give me a headache
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>>140321953
Yes, but why is it specifically an F-4 Phantom that's committing warcrimes?
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>>140322592
/tg/ faggotry. IIRC it's something based on AC, so it's double cancer.
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>>140322592
because Vietnam.
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>>140322592
It's drag profile.
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>>140322315
It's nice that DCS at least has a mock-up of IFF to sort of keep these idiots in-line.

Not that it really helps, though.
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4k 60fps Su-30 demo.

The flat spin he does at :56 is fucking insane. Never seen one quite like that.
What a gorgeous airplane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOQNKfCaUCM
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>>140312886
It's not the easiest thing to do if you're remotely busy. In the F-16 (and presumably in the F-18 when that happens) you can know in an instant your bullseye, your target's bullseye, and be able to quickly figure out where any calls are in relation to bulls by looking at your HSD.

It's so much less user friendly and more out of the way versus how the F-16 does it and that's what I'm complaining about. It makes organization harder. I wish DCS had better tools to help people be organized and fight together.
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>>140323024
It's weird, they want to fully simulate the F-16 to a T. Since they don't know how the IFF works, they simply don't simulate it.

I feel like maybe they should relax on that aspect.
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>>140323891
I'm inclined to agree.

I feel like simulating IFF even by using incorrect symbology, etc, is more "realistic" than not fucking having it whatsoever.
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>>140323891
>>140324024
Pretty sure it's an excuse they're using for an engine limitation or because they don't know how to get it to function
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>>140323891
I once asked a drunk F-16 pilot how IFF worked and he explained in impressive detail, even for a sober guy, but between the overwhelming detail and the fact that I was drunk too I don't remember any of those details.
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>>140324106
>engine limitation
Falcon BMS is called a mod. However they have complete access to all aspects due to the source code. They got weapon oscillation at certain machs and altitude, wing flexing and corrected the normal flying gains FLCS modeled corrected with a complete rewrite.

>>140324174
a drunk and very dumb pilot
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>>140324174
"Pls rspond"
"Lel"
"He's using an old meme, sir, but it checks out"
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>>140324535
Dude had awesome stories, including one time where he flew against F-22s. He was a Wild Weasel, but these days he flies as an instructor these days teaching students BFM in T-38s.
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anyone care to hook a nigga up with a falcon 4.0 torrent that isn't >>140085797 ?
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>>140324969
For UPT? What base?
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>>140325724
I want to say somewhere in Texas, but I don't know for sure. I never asked.
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>connect to Blue Flag server
>no spawns on Red for Mirage
>blue still has it

What the fuck?
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>>140325138
Google is your best friend
Any falcon 4.0 would work.
Pretty sure it can't be that difficult to find a link
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>>140322670
That makes sense

>>140322674
>>140322963
lulz
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HA A
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Have any of you heard of a sim called Rigs of Rods? It's basically a free and open source vehicle-simulation game which uses soft-body physics to simulate the motion destruction and deformation of vehicles. Here's a wiki link for more info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigs_of_Rods
Also, a big portion of rigs of rods currently is racing Monster Trucks and the biggest place that you can do that is on a website called Sim-Monsters.com. Look it up sometime
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Have any od you lads read "German aircraft of the Second World War"?
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>>140323314
Dat thrust vectoring tho
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>>140325138
>really don't want to help somebody that doesn't seem to have even tried to look for it themselves
a quick google and a few clicks around...
http://www.vitorrentz.me/torrent/4ee346eea71a26a486de4707a7613c76cc476b36
http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/pc/windows-games/falcon-40-usa/
try these lazy anon.

>>140331063
heard of it never tried it, instead I have BeamNG Drive which is supposed to have been base off of / very similar to RoR.
tell me how it goes, if you do try it out

>>140331714
no, I haven't. is it a good read?
I have been thinking about reading "The Blonde Knight of Germany" since I started to read "Art of the Kill". Is it any good?
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>10
Eeek
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BMS ops NOW

>>140334595

/simg/ is gonna fucking die bruh damn
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Cliffs of Dover is pretty baller when modded to not be shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTv_4DPQUnQ&ab_channel=MauriceB%27stard
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>>140335509
What mods, anon?

I bought this piece of shit 3 years ago and still haven't really been able to stomach it.
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>>140335721
Team Fusion mod, all the big MP servers use it, me and some dudes in the TS have been playing it all night long.
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>>140335721

Fusion Mod 4.312

Literally took the piece of shit base game, and turned it into probably the best WWII combat flight sim out there right now.
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>>140336063
>>140336270
guess I'm going to have to give that a download, then.
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>>140335509
Sadly the AI spends its ammo in 30s and then just sit ducks. I think the team fusion was planning to improve the AI for the next release but Im not sure if they're actually doing it.
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>>140339348
Wasn't 5.0 supposed to come out a few months ago?
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Where is the missile flying /simg/?
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>>140340395
To a place where your RWR can't detect
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On our way to fuck your bitch
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>>140341179

Fenced in
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>>140341179
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>>140340395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ7d4JVB2Uc
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From an earlier solo op in which i got btfo by an un-breifed SAM.
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Ivan , its simple .We put a nuke in an-2 , nobody will think it`s a threat !
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Cant see shit
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>>140339584
No clue. I ignore almost everything until its released.
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>10
(can't think of what to say)
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>>140345284
You're supposed to say SINK RATE
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Fuck this, air to air refueling sucks.
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>>140346536
>those cheeky fuck tankers always start speeding away from you after you set up

Did they ever fix that bullshit? Made attempting to lrn2refuel in the Mirage a couple weeks ago a fucking pain.
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>>140346536
How do you get a in-flight refuel mission?
Instant action usually gives me a "no tanker available"
Mission editor? Mysterious witch magic?
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>>140346775
I didn't notice that happening, but I also still haven't managed to properly make contact and start taking fuel without crashing. Whats a good speed and altitude to use anyway? I have the tanker at 20,000 ft going 200 kts which seems reasonable to me but maybe a bit too slow.

>>140347048
Set it up myself in the mission editor.
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BMS ops ON Friday Y/N ?
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>>140347397
The test mission I've been using has a tanker at around 20,000ft at 250 knots.

Think is, after you call in pre-contact the fucking thing accelerates up to like 350kts. If you get too far behind or manage to overshoot, it begins to slow to 250 knots again, at which point you've got to start the process anew.

Basically it seems like I shouldn't even bother with it if I'm actually low on fuel, getting to an airfield will always be faster and consume less fuel so long as this shit happens.
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>>140347617
Hope you meant me, because yeah sure, if possible. I have a lot of work due to uni, but maybe I can make something
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>>140347768
I was actually asking if anyone wants to play on friday night.If you have too much work to do I can host anyway.
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>>140347768
Where were you for like a month senpai
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>>140348917
Friday "night" meaning what time UTC?

I'm good for it around 2200 UTC (I'm US West Coast)
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>>140350201
22-23 UTC sounds good
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>>140341570
>enemy airfield
You can bet your ass there will ALWAYS be SAMs
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where are the military simulators like Graviteam Tactics

I want them
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>>140350883
>Gravyteam Tactics
>simulator
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>>140323465
git gud faggot pressing f-10 and two clicks isn't hard.
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>>140352871
Im sorry ,are you retarded ?
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>>140353230
>i want a modern plane to hold my babby hand
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>>140353383
No ? I want a properly modeled plane .
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>>140352871
When you are merged with a bandit you have no time to do that The proper procedure to do is call your bulls and angels too bad that you cannot do that in DCS So how about you go and play with your FC3 babyplanes instead of shitting up the thread
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>>140354362
>>140353969
>request vector to bullseye
wow omg so hard.
You could even have your host put a way point on bulls for reference.
or you could cry about it being too hard even though its a minor inconvenience
FUCKING ED I WANT A SPECIAL COMPASS IN MY MIG-21 TO VECTOR TO BULLS BECAUSE USING MY BRAIN IS TOO HARD
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>>140323465
You can use the TAD in the A-10C by setting the cursor to display co-ords relative to bullseye.
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>>140355703
>not having bulls location on the plane
Seriously ,kill yourself.
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Proudest day of my miserable life desu
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When in doubt, the SA10 is engaging you, even without a RWR spike, and there is no spike when the missile goes terminal. Note we are out of lethal range and I at that time had no RWR indication of the sa10
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MUH CLIMBING MACHINE
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>>140359638
>war thunder tier
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>>140363005
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>>140363005
>he doesn't like being able to shit on Yaks and Laggs with relative impunity
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>>140357053
I don't get it
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>>140363548
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Autism unmanned flanker coming through
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Come on lads don't let it die
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>>140366946
>when you cover the wehraboo's canopy in poopoo
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da bois
>>
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>>140322670

>/tg/ faggotry
I resemble that remark!

DM Steve is a god, and Baron (storyteller & Phantom pilot, btw) dindu nuffin
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>>140363664
Did you kill it?

Drones are shit and should be slain.
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>>140327310
Mig-21 red, Mirage blue.
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>>140375060
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(hears a loud bang of to your right)
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What are you doing polychop? Gazelle WHEN?!
>>
DCS modules WHEN
>>
BMS ops WHEN
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>It's been almost 6 months since "what are those F-5s doin there?"

F-5 released never.
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>>140356780
Hey you don't need spaces after your punctuation's and random capitalization stop that your fucking triggering my autism.
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I'm getting bored of these single-seat fighters in DCS.

I want to fly a SR-71 through an IADS on a recon mission. Or fly a C-130 full of paratroopers, or go subhunting in a nimrod.

You can't really sit back and enjoy the flying and/or knob twiddling in a fighter unless you're doing a free flight mission. Its more about getting points innit.
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>>140390584
Fly in BMS then. You'll be doing a lot of flying.
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>>140347745
IRL the tanker profile should be 315 KIAS for F-16 refueling, and hit 335 or so in a breakaway if you get too far in and close to crushing the ice shield.

From about 10' on in you should be moving at 1'/min. I don't know if this is how it works in-game, though.
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>>140311570
I have the hard copy of this. It's really good.

I think its from the 80s but it doesnt have shit vague language like most older books on air combat. Its written in an easy to understand way, all completely relevant to DCS and Falcon etc. Has a variety of stuff like how to dodge SAMs, how radars work, how to shoot down helicopters...
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>>140392562
Also, does anyone know of a similar guide on air-to-ground?
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>>140390584
I know I'm in the minority but I would enjoy an F-117 module. Probably never ever though.

Maybe I can wait 50 or 60 years for a B-2 module. I know someone will definitely make that once the information becomes available.
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>>140394203
I don't think there's anything stopping an F-117 from being made other than the fact it doesn't have air-to-air. The weapons systems are probably similar to other strike aircraft and even if the stealth details are secret they could simulate it closely.

It would suit NTTR anyway.
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>>140394203
I don't know why, The F-117 wouldn't be fun to fly because all you do is fly for hours to drop a JDAM or something
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>>140394786
I just find casually flying around, while dropping bombs undetected fun.

I definitely think some fun scenarios could be made, like infiltrating Baghdad, and seeing all the AA fire light up the sky while you're just cruising along.
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>>140394786
There is a massive community of people who fly virtual jumbo jets around the planet for hours and don't bomb or shoot anything. Never underestimate the power of autism.

There is a thrill in slower gameplay. Like in DayZ it would take hours before your first shootout which made it a lot more intense than respawning in COD.

You would get a buzz from planning a long range strike and surviving that you wouldn't from respawning in a mig over and over again.
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>>140394203
STOP TALKING ABOUT HAVING FUN DIDN'T YOU KNOW THAT ISN'T ALLOWED?
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Doesn't the F-117 only hold like 2 bombs? kek.
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>>140395661
Also, I hope that one day when dynamic campaigns are in and multiplayer is fleshed out, DCS has project reality-tier teamwork.

So all these support roles and strike missions that people call boring would play a big part in multiplayer matches.

e.g. You bomb a command bunker and it cuts the feed from the early warning radars to the SAMs, so the SAMs start emitting and HARM'ed
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>>140396172
That is exactly what I was thinking about as well.

F-117 coming in to even bomb the SAM sites, and the A-10c, Mirage, or whatever comes in to do work it couldn't do with those SAM sites up.

None of this will probably ever happen tho desu
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>>140396390
I've heard multiple ED devs say something to the effect of "All military aircraft that aren't totally obscure will be in DCS in the next few years"
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>>140396743
More like next 200 years at the speed we're getting them
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>>140396390
>F-117
>effective at all

Maximum kek you are dumb beyond saving.
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>>140397087
?

Why are you so anti fun.
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>>140397087
>Hurr durr, I must bash what I don't like/understand
Just another edgy child on 4chan these days
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>>140397087
Because it only has two bombs?

Lots of strike aircraft usually only carry a small amount of bombs, even if they can hold 10 or w/e

You're not going to send a strike aircraft out with 20 PGMs to hit 20 different targets against an enemy with SAMs and fighters because you'll just end up getting spotted and shot down.
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>>140397253
>>140397538
>>140397609

>During the Gulf War in 1991, the F-117A flew approximately 1,300 sorties and scored direct hits on 1,600 high-value targets in Iraq[1] over 6,905 flight hours.[43] Leaflet drops on Iraqi forces displayed the F-117 destroying ground targets and warned "Escape now and save yourselves".[26] Initial claims of its effectiveness were later found to be overstated. For instance it was claimed that the F-117 made up 2.5% of Coalition tactical aircraft in Iraq and they attacked more than 40% of the strategic targets;[44] this ignored the fact that only 229 Coalition aircraft could drop and designate laser-guided bombs of which 36 F-117 represented 15.7%, and only the USAF had the I-2000 bombs intended for hardened targets, so the F-117 represented 32% of all coalition aircraft that could deliver such bombs.[45] Initial reports of them hitting 80% of their targets were later scaled back to "41-60%".[46] On the first night they failed to hit 40% of the air-defense targets they were assigned, including the Air Defense Operations Center in Baghdad, and 8 such targets remained functional out of 10 that could be assessed.[47] In their Desert Storm white paper the USAF claimed that "the F-117 was the only airplane that the planners dared risk over downtown Baghdad" and that this area was particularly well defended.[48] In fact most of the air defenses were on the outskirts of the city and many other aircraft hit targets in the downtown area, with minimal casualties when they attacked at night like the F-117.[48] This meant they avoided the optically aimed AAA and infra-red SAMs which were the biggest threat to Coalition aircraft.[49]

Shit plane yada yada, give us the F/A-18C/E, F-16C bl.50, F-15E etc... you know, the planes that matter. The F-117 will do what in DCS?

Blow up bridges? Doesn't matter tanks go through water
Bombing runways? Doesn't matter since its client side
Bombing SAMs? Who is gonna program stealth? ED?
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>>140398006
Delete this post right now.
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>>140398006

The F-117 will look cool as fuck and bring more people into the game because they want to fly the area 51 alien fighter plane.

btw stealth is a real thing that makes the plane stealthy.

Also stealth isn't hard to model. They don't model the FC3 radars true to life but close enough, they can do the same with stealth. CMANO has stealth modelled they can just nick it from them.
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>>140398006
also f-, MiG-, Su- planes are boring michael bay tokyo drift shit for people with shit ADD taste
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>>140398634
Do you really trust ED to do stealth right

I don't
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>>140398634
>btw stealth is a real thing that makes the plane stealthy.
Prepare yourself for the wave of (you)s.
This general if full of people who don't believe stealth is a real thing.
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>>140398963
*fighter planes
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>>140398963
>you have ADD because you want to fly a remotely interesting airframe
For fucks sake lad, I consider myself pretty autistic for flight sims but I don't want some shitty 2 bomb meme stealth plane that gets downed by drunk Serbs
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>>140398980
They can simulate jamming burn-through at a certain range so why can't they simulate something similar with stealth?
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>>140398006
Really is a shame if dmgs are only client sided.
I really would like the F/A-18s and the F-15Es. F-16s would be great too

About the green text,
How can you be sure that the misses of their LGBs are caused by the aircraft and not the bomb guidance/environmental errors?
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>>140399729
because jamming burn through is literally just a function depending on range, but stealth is alot more complicated like angles, aspects and radar frequencies.
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>>140400136
They simulate beaming with ground clutter, wouldn't that be similar?
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>>140399613
If I'm not mistaken, it wasn't shot down by drunk Serbs. Instead its location was compromised the moment it took off when an enemy spotter saw it taking off and therefore prompted the enemy SAM operators to tune their radars to an usual/not normally used frequency.
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Why is it when I fly the F-86 it feels 'real' but if I fly the F-15 or SU-27 it feels arcadey? Other than that I touch myself at night.
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>>140400398
It's still a fucking 2 bomb meme plane that would be boring to fly though

>>140400416
F-86 is a real man's plane.
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>>140399919
Because sand countries are the LGB's wet dream. No rain, no fog, no clouds, sunny weather, no trees and mostly flat lands where 80% of the targets are near rivers where most of the population is.

>>140400275
You really think that ground clutter is simulated in a game where most of the things are arcade or broken?

>>140400398
1 shot down, 1 damaged beyond repair
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>>140400585
I suppose it would be boring. But it looks cool.

I really need to delete the "name" box when I'm not bumping
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>>140400803
What would negatively affect LGBs?
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>>140400803
>>140401029
And what would you need to do to fk up a LGB drop?
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>>140400585
2 bombs that you can drop anywhere vs 10 bombs that you can drop on areas that have been wild weasel'd. You can drop 10 bombs on a bunch of T-72s or 2 bombs on Saddam Hussein.

Play CMANO and look at what stealth does, if you don't have stealth there are targets that you just can't reach. You can't use TFR to reach a far-in target if the enemy has CAP with look-down/shoot-down or AWACS.
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>>140401565
clouds, smoke, the laser pointed at the west side of a building and the launching aircraft coming in from the east
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>>140401943
In real life yeah. In the context of what you'll be doing in DCS, you'll fly for an hour to drop 2 bombs and destroy 2 targets.
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>>140400803
>Because sand countries are the LGB's wet dream. No rain, no fog, no clouds, sunny weather, no trees and mostly flat lands where 80% of the targets are near rivers where most of the population is.

I seem to remember reading in bravo two zero that the weather was unusually shit during the gulf war.
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>>140401029
>>140401565

Clouds, rain or moisture, haze, snow, fog, solar saturaion range of lasing, delivery envelope.

DCS has a somewhat arcade style of lasing but its good enough for the job I guess.

Apart from the environmental factors you also need to understand that the LGB cannot pick up the lase from certain angles like if you drop a LGB and then do a heavy turn.

Also if someone on the ground is lasing you need to be sure that the LGB will detect the target and not the designator since the LGB goes where the lase is the strongest - the source.

>>140402293
The only shit part of sand countries are sand storms and thats it.
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>>140402252
I'm hoping that DCS gets a multiplayer system based on long games with attrition of assets and moving fronts.

I know from playing WW2OL that fighters really don't have as much effect as bombers for helping the team capture shit. Sometimes I would take half an hour to fly to a target and kill 3 people with a stuka but I would feel a buzz I survived and went back to base.
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Blue flag has almost 50 people in it currently. They are clearly calling da boys.
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>>140407613

It's still just testing right?

>tfw still at work
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F-117 would be fun for a bit but get really old.

Big ass night time raids over sand with AA lighting up the sky would be fucking neato tho.
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>>140409024
NO

STOP THINKING ABOUT HAVING FUN

ROOOOOOOO
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That new guy is a fucking idiot
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>>140411823
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>fc3 arcade babbies
FC3 shit should be banned from all servers already. Why would ED ever fix anything with those retards around.
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>>140394762
>>140394203
Microprose made a F117 module years ago, though it's as much a flight simulator as Forza is a Driving simulator.
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I've been playing Falcon 4.33.1 badly. Can someone give me advice on using mavericks? I can never seem to hit anything with them and bore sighting them to the tgp is an asshole and a half.
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>>140415332
my dream is getting a full blown vietnam simulation, then the defense companies banning 4th gen jets from DCS, all casuals get bullycided by the lack of silver BVR jets
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>>140415392
Forza is passable as a sim with all the assists off. F-117 Nighthawk is just a game. A good game, but a game nonetheless.
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>>140415332
There you have it, coming from the mouth of a Baby Cliff shiter, FC3 is not a simulation.

>>140415625
>3rd gen
Yeah no, modern air combat with all the hot shit from 1990 to around 2010.

Even without the snowflake jets you can get some nice variety from the western countries while eastern jets are all the same Flankers and Fulcrums.
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>>140332628
I started reading it yesterday, it features lots of aircraft and has a shitton of pictures. I'd say that it's at the very least a nice book to read when trying to catch some sleep.
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>>140407613
I'm boycotting Blue Flag.

They restricted Mirage 2k and MiG-21bis to blue and red coalitions, specifically.

It's fucking stupid at best, and at worst, it looks like they're desparately attempting to alter the balance to favor Blufor in every way they can.

If it wasn't enough that the Mirage absolutely shits all over every Redfor plane in a dogfight, the "interceptor" aircraft assigned to Redfor to fulfill a similar role as the Mirage does in the air, has a fucking broken radar scan arc that's drastically reduced the range at which the Sapphire can see shit in front of it.

Those Greek assholes just want their team to win. Nationalism is a fucking cancer.
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>>140416136

>Nationalism based on an inferiority complex from being irrelevant or shit is a cancer

fix'd
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>>140416723
Learn 2 reply to the correct post shiter.
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>>140416136
t. le american bear
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>>140416869
French, German, UK and US jets versus all the same or downgraded Flankers and Fulcrums from the former East Block countries.

Who has more variety?
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>>140417254
Bluefor, and thanks for proving my point.
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Anyone got that "Very fast mig flying at incredible hihg speed" image?

I can't find it
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>>140418031
Thank you
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>>140418031

Still my #1 favorite image to come from this general.
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>>140418031
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>>140420196
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>>140420196
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Well bois, since Buddy Spike is rigging this shit so that Blufor is most likely to win.. what are we going to do to prevent that from happening?

We're going to have to go into hardcore oversperg mode to counter the imbalance they're setting up.
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>>140423058
Espionage :^)
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>GOD'S PLANE is so effective that it has to have the entire nature of the battlefield changed to suit its whim so that it is capable of defeating a ragtag bunch of drunks, stoners, and other invalids flying inferior Communist aircraft

kek to the max.
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>>140423058
>>140423196
1 missile is enough for you autistic manchildren to start cheating?

They will probably delay Blue Flag until the Fishbed is fixed or something and I dont think they fixed/adjusted the fuel system.

Also you wont be able to use the CGI slot unless you are in their TS
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>>140423058

What were gonna do is fucking win anyway, against all odds.

The legend of the bois will be enshrined in history.


...or we'll get blown the fuck out and everybody will rage and quit early, which I can see happening.

Hopefully it's the first. I'll be playing regardless.
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>>140423867
It's not the missile so much as needlessly restricting plane availability beyond FC3 aircraft.

Mirage and MiG-21 should be flyable by both teams. Do this and Blue can keep the AIM-120.

I'm not even convinced the aim-120/R-27ER/T imbalance is going to be as much as an issue as the fact that these two planes are no longer freely available.

The only way to make this make sense is to remove Ka-50, Mi-8, and Su-25T from Blufor, and remove A-10C from Redfor.

I think we can all agree that's never going to fucking happen, for obvious reasons.
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>>140403509
There is literally no reason for ED to do that when modders are willing to do it for free with stuff like Blue Flag.
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>>140423912
To the very end lad

We won't go down like whiny fucking babies like Blue did last round
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>>140424379
>modders are willing to do it for free with stuff like Blue Flag and then run their own shit into the ground faster than ED could ever hope to

fixed
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>tfw my 190 doesn't outrun potato planes
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>>140425483
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>sees 50+ players on blueflag
>goes to make some food, then blueflag
>server down
>rip
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WHO /STEEL FURY KHARKOV 1942/ HERE


Seems to be the most fun of the simple tank sims, anyone got any good mods for it?
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STUKA OPS SOON
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>>140425982
I crashed it via script injection cause there were too many F-15.
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>>140428089
>this is what Blufor actually believes
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do you ever think why people made shit planes? like just make them good and you're plane won't be bad. thats it. don't fuck around and your shit will be cool.
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>>140430150
Pretty simple actually. People are lazy creatures, they try and see how lazy they can be and not get yelled at. Tries to put in the least effort they can and still turn a profit. Like why students copy answers and turn in their "individual homework". It's just easier to fuck around and claim you did work than actually doing the work.
Pretty sure if you're not enthusiastic/ very motivate to perform said task, you will cheap out/cut corners when performing that task, unless you've some degree of OCD(although oftenly associated as negative, but in this case) of perfectionism.

sad how people don't even hold themselves to a higher level, when they claim to be "excited" to model/program/make X product
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>>140431182
its a good thing there are more good planes than bad ones but that's because nobody wants a bad plane.

look at this one, this is a good kind of plane. it is good because it was designed full assed (not half assed) and it does what it needs to well.
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>>140431475
in comparison is this piece of SHIT like what the fuck??? have fun dying!
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>>140430150
The F-15 was supposed to be F-111 but a little bigger and faster. Would it be shit? Who knows.
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>>140431656
heres the image.
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>>140431806
the fuck?
this is the REAL image.
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>>140431973
ok well its not loading so just imagine a shitty plane that is poorly desigend.
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>>140430150
You're vastly over-simplifying everything. Nobody sets out to make a bad plane. Asking why people make bad planes is like asking why isn't everybody and everything perfect.
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>>140432110
Wow... I want an image of a shitty plane
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>>140432169
well they have calculators so they can just be like "hmmm i calculate that this is a piece of shit but we're going to produce it anyway because we need the money"

>>140432197
google it i guess
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>>140430150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC6bF4f2iiU
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Idea:

World War II twin engine fighter with a ball turret on the nose.

2 man crew.
Pilot focuses on maneuvers
Gunner can focus only on gunnery, and can kill "off boresight"

Would it work y/n
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>>140432708
No, purely because you can make a single engine fighter that can outmaneuver it.
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>>140432708
No, because air to air gunnery using turrets in real life is fucking hard even when your plane is flying straight and level.

If you want a real life example, the Bolton Paul Defiant was a fighter whose only armament was a turret. It was complete shit.
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>>140432708
only useful for bomber hunting and even then it wouldnt perform a lot better than their counterparts
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>>140432708
That's a fucking awful idea (the britroaches learn that at their own expense) and you should feel stupid for bringing it up.
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>>140431182(Me)
Kek, I wrote this thinking about programmers and model artists

Not engineers, to my understanding they usually use the best available technology as long as it isn't prohibitively expensive.

Well that's assuming they aren't a bunch of corrupted fks. Like what>>140432169 said, nobody sets out to make something "bad", unless they're retarded or if there's a reason for them to do that (like money or wut not)
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>>140432708
n
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>>140431182
>meanwhile at Lockheed-Martin...
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>>140434513
>Lockheed Martin cheaping out or cutting corners
>$100million for a bird that doesn't get to fly if its fuel is too warm and a tailhook that doesn't fucking work

It's a mixture of both, really. They include components bought at exorbitant rates, but then fuck up the specifics of said components, leading them to not fucking work whatsoever for several months until a replacement has been found and applied to the fleet.
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PLANES R COOL
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>>140435983
shut the fuck up, nerd.
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>>140436038
R00D
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I want a flight sim where I invade a nation with 3rd gen jet fighters.
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So what are the chances of Barthek jewing out and charging for his latest pack?
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>>140437818

HIND WHEN
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Why does the US have two attack helos? SuperCobra, and Apache.

Don't they perform the same role? Why have two different helos?
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>>140438174
Hopefully we get something good like the Cobra first
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BMS OPS FUCKING HOW
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>>140440210
Cobra is used by the USMC, Apache is Army. USMC has different design requirements since it needs to operate off an LHD, so they'd probably need to design a new version of the Apache to use it.
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>>140441096
I see. You have any idea of what kinda specific requirements the USMC would need?

I was thinking about weight, but the SuperCobra and Apache are similar in weight.

And actually now that I think about it, don't the Britbongs operate their Apaches off their ships?
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>>140441386
well when you have a helicopter fly off a boat you need to make it to shore and back and also shoot stuff and you need to take this into account. hope this helps.
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>>140441526
Interesting. It seems the brits have already been doing this with their apaches tho.
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(Stick shaker noise intensifies)
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Quick somebody make a new thread
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>>140443285
Those were made and modified by Westland though, they changed the engine and added folding blades. It's probably just a case of Congress not wanting to shell out the money for a modified design when the USMC has been using the AH-1 perfectly fine.
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>past 750 post
>auto sage
Oh no the world's gonna end
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SINK RATE!

PULL UP!
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Posting Macross in a DCS thread
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TERRAIN!

PULL UP!
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*sounds of the plane on fire*
oh shit
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>captcha is Exit
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ALTITUDE ALTITUDE
>>
>>
is there a point flying helos on blue flag yet? and by helos I mean the huey?
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>>140445358
Helos are incredibly important in Blue Flag because they supply fuel to the airbases, capture airbases, and deploy SAM sites.
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NEW

>>140445382
>>140445382
>>140445382
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