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>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf (DaS2)
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E
>Essential PC mods
http://pastebin.com/XwL5KDhB

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
http://pastebin.com/RDDaqtcP
>System requirements
http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/MMO/DARK_SOULS_III/test/ds3_1920.jpg
http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/MMO/DARK_SOULS_III/test/ds3_proz.jpg
>Character planner and science
https://sites.google.com/site/darksouls3stats/home
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_JoBtL4BafHEYXeE0z13gdO7DNCuvzs9aKMgcSHayHY
https://battlecalculator.com/dark-souls-3-class-selector/

Hollowed: >>138330031
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I-its okay, I d-didn't want DS3 on release day anyway

I-I'm f-fine with GMG giving me my k-key a week late
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>>138353369
You'll be fine, anon.
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haha long boy
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Does the silver knight helmet still have pinched head syndrome in dark souls 3?
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>>138353369
What? You really thought your discount was "free"?
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>>138353139
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are infusions swappable like in das2?
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>>138353681
From what I've seen, that seems to be a damn good spot for farming for souls, since it's very close to a bonfire, right?
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>>138353681
>it's a charged POKE
I mean i never used it, but that's really sad.
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>>138353647
Yes
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Is anyone here gonna risk using a vpn to get the game faster?
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So Great Corvian Scythe is Lifehunt Scythe 2.0?

Is there a Bloodshield thing in this game? Anything other than Bloodbite Ring?
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Does the PC version of DS3 let you set the resolution below 1080, or is that the minimum?
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>Credit card information is not valid
FUCK YOU SONYSHIT
Jesus Christ how I hate PSN garbage.
Forced to buy disk now. Fuck sonyniggers
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>>138353806
Bloodborne magic wave was better.
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So i'm about to finish up Dark Souls 1.

Should I even bother with DS 2 or should I just skip ahead to Bloodborne and then DS3?

If I get DS2 is there any reason for me to bother with the PS4 version of Scholar of the First sin? I can pirate it for free on my PS3
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>tfw I can only play for about 5 hours on release and then I have to work and sleep fort he next 24 hours
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>>138353881
Why not buy PSN dollar codes from another merchant?
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>>138353939
Skip DaS2 and BB and play DaS3 with everyone else
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>>138353867
I haven't seen anything below 1080 in any screenshot, but there could be such an option. Who knows. Maybe something like dsfix or gedosato will come out and it will allow us to set the rendering resolution lower than our monitor's resolution.
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>>138353268
Wonder if homobros will get anything.
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>>138353939
I like ds2 but I would recommend it. just go for bloodborne
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>>138353939
Having just finished 2 yesterday and 1 before, it's a decent souls game, but you won't lose anything from skipping it for 3. Especially considering how so many people are saying 3 is the best.
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>>138353939
Ds3 is around the corner, so go straight to 3. Then you can play bb after you're burned out with 3. Skip 2 completely.
Just don't miss ds3 during its peak.
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>>138330110
>>138330110
>>138330110
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>>138353939
You won't have time to finish DaS2 or BB before DaS3 releases.

Play DaS3 with the day 1 release hype and come back to DaS2 and BB later after you've played DaS3.
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>>138353941
>He didn't take vacation days off
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>>138353939
SotFS on 360 was pretty great. It fucks up some of the things that DaS1 did so well, like attack animations(RIP greataxes), but it's still an excellent game.

The DX11 version of SotFS supposedly has really fucked enemy placements, where every area is just infested with tons of random shit.
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>>138354167
3 would be the best if it wasn't so fucking short
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So does anyone have any idea why covenants are such shit in this one? Is the day one patch guna fix them or are we just stuck with two useless ones and two that do the exact same thing?
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Anyone else feel DS2 could of benefitted from having more shortcuts in the levels?
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>>138354143
wouldn't*
Besides, everyone from 2 will go straight to 3. I know I am
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>>138354208
>he fucks with his work schedule over video games
Grow up.
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>>138353806
>>138353908
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>>138354196
Yes, that would be a dead general created 4 hours ago.
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To whomever was wondering about the Silver Knight armor, here's the full set.
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>>138354329
Whoa there buddy

Why are you even playing video games at that point, gramps?
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If a purplebro invades, do they take up an invader slot, or a generic slot?

If they take up a generic slot, can we get 5 purplebros?
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>>138354284
No, after playing it over and over in PvE it's just crappy map settings and no one around to play with.
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>>138354371
Is that just the R2 like DaS?
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>>138353681
Do those guys drop their weapons?
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>>138351739
>using the shit online feature

Kek, nice meme, mate.
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>>138354329
>implying he'll ever need those days off for something else
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>>138354329
>He thinks hobbies aren't worth indulging in

The fuck do you think vacation days are for? They're there to let you not come into work and do something you enjoy instead.
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>>138354449
Invader slot as fat as I know.
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The only souls game i played was bloodborne and i want to play ds3

Is parrying like doing a visceral attack and is it easier/harder to do?
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>>138354430
Oh, fuck's sake, I had the Black Knight chestpiece on like an idiot.
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>>138354449
They're normal invaders except they take damage from NPC enemies
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>>138354371
Slow as fuck. I like mlgs in ds2 but even that was clunky most of the time.
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Anyone know if your name displayed to other players will be your account name or your character name?
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NERF Havel estoc
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>>138354430
That looks pretty fucking nice.
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>>138354639
There's a toggle where players can decide to see either usernames or character names.
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>>138354580
So then how have we got people talking about scenarios where they've got >2 Invaders at once?

Or are they just bullshitting and they summoned purples?
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Can you kill Yuria for her armor before you kill the final boss and still get the usurpation of fire ending?
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>>138354208
>tfw I can't because we are short staffed
>tfw even if we could I need to use them for a trip this summer
>tfw I made that mistake in too many previous jobs and it was never worth
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I've never beat DaS1 and got kind of far in DaS2

Can't wait to play DaS3 tho!
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>>138354739
I think you lose the usurp ending if yuria dies or leaves
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>>138354736
You can get 4 invaders at a time in "forest" locations where Watchdogs or Faithful invade you
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>>138353850
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>>138354269
Covenants have always been shit senpai desu
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>>138354739
No, but you can kill her later.
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>>138354507
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>>138353850
Absolutely

What are they gonna do.
Lock down your distribution account for pushing packets to and from a server you bought?
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>>138354803
You can and you will have to wait, anon.
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I need a DS1 and 2 recap / story "explained", any suggestions?
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>>138354836
why is this so urgent to you

you can literally play the game tomorrow, calm down man
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>>138354904
Yeah but at least the useless covenants in the prior games were interesting

The useless covenants in this game are just boring
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>>138354639
>>138354729
What I saw on a stream was you could fill in your displayname however you wanted in the menu. Was I tripping?
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>>138354826
Ah that clears things up.
So area protectors use a generic slot rather than an invasion slot.

kthx anon.
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>>138354739
>>138354815
But I forgot to mention, if you summon yuria for the fight with the soul of cinder, then she'll leave her set in firelink afterwards.
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This game is fun.
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>>138354072
Here's praying. I don't mind playing in 720 if it will let me run the game smoothly on my garbage PC.
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>>138354958
So was that any good against turtles?
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>>138354985
>I need
You don't.
Just play das3, it's pretty much the same as das1.
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>>138354985
First there were dragons. Then came fire. Then came some faggots who killed the dragons. Then came humans. Fire starts fading. The undead appear. Some of them link the flame and keep it burning a while longer, but fire will fade, and only dark will remain.
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>>138354836
But anon the game releases simultaneously globally.

It won't release at countries at the international date line before the rest of the world.
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>>138354723
Here's the actual set, no fuck-ups this time.
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>>138354985
DaS: You're the CA and can continue the cycle or break it
DaSII: You're someone and you don't get to choose, you just get a nice chair to finally sit down in.
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>>138353853
Please respond
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>>138355185
you can choose in SotFS
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>>138355185
Aldia of the First Meme: You can either get a new chair, or go look for a whole house to call your own.
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>Release day
>Spend more time that day on character creation than the content itself
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>>138354904
That's not really a good excuse. They've had more than enough time to learn from past design choices regarding covenants and yet the continue to be shit.
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>>138355185

not really what happens, both endings are actually identical.

>>138354985

go watch VaatiVidya's lore videos. all of them. it will also accomplish proper hyping for ds3.
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>>138355352
Shut up Vaati.
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>>138355289
I never rebought DaSII for better graphics, thanks for the info though.
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>>138355352
fuck off vaati
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Has there even been a cooler looking area in the series?
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>>138355352
Vaati get out.
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>>138355352
>it will also accomplish proper hyping for ds3.
Fuck off vaati.
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>>138355021
You probably misunderstood and saw someone putting in a password.
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>>138355352
>vaati
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>>138355453
>not bleeding sun

fucking dropped
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>>138354198
>>138354191
Why is it so important to play 3 when it comes out? I won't have any trouble coming back to 2 or Bloodborne after the improvements of 3?
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>>138355305
and that house may not actually exist but hell if you aren't going to try your damnedest to find it
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>>138355453
Maybe if you could explore it a bit more
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>>138355453
Gehrman's arena was better.
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>>138355453
Both Kilns are so immensely cool. I wish there was more to the DaS3 Kiln.
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HOW MANY HOURS
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>>138355312
How's the preset black option? Has JUBILANT.jpg made a comeback?
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TORRENTS WHERE
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>>138355453
Like every other area in the game?
I mean that's literally one of the ugliest.
Even the nega-firelink shrine is better than that.
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For people who have been playing/keeping up with DaS3, is faith viable at all? I was planning on running a Str/Faith build
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>>138355559
>Why is it so important to play 3 when it comes out?

maximum amount of invasions of course
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>>138354904
Yeah but I mean, at least in the other games it looked like they tried, in this one its like literally all they did was sit a bunch of interns down at a table so that they could copy off each other and handed them a list of factions from previous games
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pc or ps4

halp. imo ps4 has always had the best community, but pc might start to rival that, and is more likely to get things like dsfix
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>>138355695
>he actually cares about the pvp
why?
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sorry but I can't listen to the vaati videos, idk something about it just makes me feel weird. is there no good 20 minute..ish videos that goes over the story in a decent way?
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>>138353369
its 55 on steam and 53 on gmg, was 2$ really worth it?

>>138353647
same goes for that goat head people wear, its very thin
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>Sellsword
>Dual wields shields
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>>138355453
Is this in the game?
>>138355634
I didn't play the game anon, but I know what I'll be doing after making a FPS test character
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>>138355559
Invasions, coop, fight clubs and lots of fun. You will probably have problems going back to 2, since it's not that good when compared to 3. As for bloodborne, no, you won't have any problems at all. In fact, some people like bb more than das3, so maybe you'll like it even more. Who knows. But don't miss das3 at its peak.
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>>138355797
no
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>>138355753
because the pve is a joke until the final 1/3rd of the game
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>>138355795
How do you do damage to that guy??
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>>138355797
>Is this in the game?
Nope.
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>>138355559
Because:
-The 24/7 invasions
-Summon signs littering the floor
-Silly unpatched bugs
-Gamebreaking bugs
-No advanced hackers
-Any hackers who are around are worried if they improved their cheat-detection
-Experiencing the meta unfold
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>>138355795
Well, yeah. He sold his swords.
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so whats the deal with nega firelink shrine
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>>138355775
It used to be 47 on GMG, and its only 55 on steam if you bought the other Souls games on steam you stupid nigger
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>>138355795
>mercenary
>expecting a havel monster to risk losing
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>>138355795
Because he sold his sword, obviously.
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>>138355862
>-Any hackers who are around are worried if they improved their cheat-detection
Yeah right
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>>138355795
Please acquire taste and wear non-Smelter, you shameful knight
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>>138355862
>hackers
Why don't they just go full retard and do what digital extremes does? You can't even play while CE's open.
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>>138355453
>Warped to a new area
>Get to look around a bit and then randomly warp again

It's honestly pretty jarring and poorly thought out design, like they had to cut out an actual pathway between Eclipse Firelink and the new kiln area and replaced it with another warp instead.

It makes it hard to like the area when you get the vague sense something went wrong with it in design.
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>>138355795
he looks pretty angry
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>>138355769
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Is it just me or is this game already boring?

I played like 700 hours of BB and made a whole heap of builds.
I feel like the build variety in DaS3 is actually LESS than it. In BB each weapon was so specialized and particular and required so much moveset mastery that each weapon was practically a build with it's own ideal gem setups and combos.

DaS3 I mained a quality build first off, a Luck build second, and a Mage third and I feel like that's basically it.
Quality is so damn stupid in this game because it makes you a master at literally 90% of the weapons. It's one build to rule many weapons, there's no special building around one weapon here. It's just "get 40 in STR/DEX and walah.

Same with magic. It's just "Go 60 INT to shoot the same old soul arrows you've gotten bored of since DeS" or "Go 60 FAI to shoot the same old lightning spears you've done since DaS1" or "Get 30/30 and go Fire Orbs and Dark stuff like you did before".
Luck is essentially "Use Anri's Sword and X Hollow weapon + Bleed resin, GG"
If I scrounge it up further, I can I guess turn a faith build into a "Blessed Build" but that's pushing it, they're the same thing anyway.

Poison build doesn't exist, Dex build doesn't exist, STR build doesn't even exist, STR Quality blows it out of the water easily.

Whip build? Fist builds? Both gimped and shit.

Pretty sad desu. I've literally already done all this game has to offer in the few short weeks before the actual worldwide release came out.
Did this happen with ANY of the other games?
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I'm going to play DS3 offline so nobody can invade me.
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>>138355996
because then they'll make exes, change the names of the programs and circumvent the restrictions.
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>>138355883
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>>138356051
>still get invaded by NPCs
Honestly i hope they put some advanced VI for the npc invaders.
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>>138356051
Sounds boring, but what ever makes you happy Anon.
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>>138355964
Stop honor shaming, you disgusting sworn knight!
It's the age of Dark, I mean come on!
Check your prestige!
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>>138355795
I'm this poster.

Honestly he was probably the best NPC summon I've ever had. He will literally draw aggro and sit there tanking shit while taking no damage letting you backstab as much as you want. His shield attacks also knock fuckers down. The giant cyclops couldn't do jack shit to him.
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>>138356051
pussy
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>>138355950
It improved in SotFS.

It's still shit though.

>>138355996
Because From can't into PC development.
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>>138355883
underrated post
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>>138355634
No preset black face
Nothing stopping you from making your own, though
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>>138355889
It's the real Firelink Shrine. Notice you never go from the main Firelink to the rest of the world without warping, while the world leads directly to the "dark" Firelink.
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>>138356051
That's fine as long as you don't summon NPC phantoms
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>>138356169
Hodrick is a pretty good invader.
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>tfw you discover /dsg/ doesn't like based vaati

this general is awful and has terrible memes. goodbye, good riddance.
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>>138356169
VI?
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>>138355453
Wait what is this?

Is Casca about to get raped again?
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>>138356117
Then those you can just softbun like they did for DaSII. After that you might be able to do computer bans.
>>138356282
Virtual intelligence. AI would imply the script actually learns, VI is an unlearning one.
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>>138356279
Is because he used this place to get material for his stuff and he didn't say: thank you 4chin!
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>>138356279
He's ok.

/dsg/ hates him because a lot of his lore "speculations" are almost directly ripped from here and Leddit.

A surprising amount of people only watch him for his voice.
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>>138356279
Vaati is a cockguzzling faggot and I hate sydney poofs almost as much as melbourne poofs.

Fuck off cunt.
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>>138356279
I like thieves who steal cool shit like art or priceless gems.

I dont like thieves who steal ideas and thoughts from others that could've been forumlated by a 20 second google search
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>>138356279
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>>138355862
This is the only thing making me want to rush the rest of 1 (which I'm really enjoying, amazing game) and skip 2.

I want to get into pvp but being a new player on 1 right now sucks, lots of hackers and people who know how to gear/twink properly with just the right items to abuse.

But besides that, how the fuck did I miss this game? I can't take most modern RPGs serious anymore after getting into this.
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>Have to work tomorrow until 9:15
>Everyone will get to play it 3.5 hours before me
reeee
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>>138356279
>tfw you discover /dsg/ is full of trapfags
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>>138354958
>man serpent are ugly fucks now
what happened
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>>138356051
how do you play offline?
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>>138356521
people have been playing for weeks
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>>138356467
>I like thieves who steal cool shit like art or priceless gems.
Lupin the Third is the best thief.
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>>138356279
Tomorrow will start upload some of his video.
PREPARE TO CRY SIEGWARD EDITION
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>>138356521
Anon, most people have already finished the game multiple times already
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>>138356549
With darkness comes bitterness, with bitterness comes a lack of beauty. Bitter snakes are ugly snakes.
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>>138356371
>Virtual intelligence. AI would imply the script actually learns, VI is an unlearning one.
I would rather have AI for persistent invaders than VI. Forlorn was wasted potential, I hyped for nothing
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>>138356489
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>>138356582
But I mean the general public for my platform of choice. I'm gonna get twinked on.

>>138356603
>most
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When you take >>138355797 in combination with >>138356001, you can't help but wonder about how it was supposed to work.
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How much Vigor should I be shooting for on a PvP build? 30, 35, 40?
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>>138356502
>on 1 right now sucks, lots of hackers
What, you're not using PvP watchdog?


If you're wanting to get into the PvP in 3, feel free to take it at your own pace while unkindled until you think you have a decent build, then head over to the designated fight club area.

Usually casual PvP there.
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Anyone have the stats for Creighton's axe in DaS3? Does it still have that shitty lightning infusion?
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>>138356668
What was supposed to be special about Forlorn?
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>>138356236
What a goddamn shame, but ah well I can probably make a suitable Tyrone the third.
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>platted the jp version
>start downloading the pc kek version
Well time to sleep.
See you dsg.
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>>138356371
Artificial intelligence doesn't mean that it learns anon. Stop watching so much TV
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>>138353781
Yes. its better then the one with the knight respawn in my opinion.
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>>138356668
I'd favor AI if it was only for you, could you imagine one that built off every player? would be a miniboss i think at that point.
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>2016
>people actually play the laggy cripple fight shitshow that is dark souls pvp
>for dozens of hours
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Can't beat Gwyn, someone drop a sign outside his fog gate for me please. SL 79
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>>138356767
>Does it still have that shitty lightning infusion?
Yup, can't be infused nor buffed.
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>>138356447
At least he's not a filthy canberra
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>>138356827
>tyrone the third
Have you also been making a fat naked club/spear-wielding black man for your first run of every souls game?
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>>138356279
A plagiarist who thinks enemies respawning are not a gameplay mechanic, but lore is "based".

OK
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>>138356972
parry him senpai
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>>138356417
That's weird because he sounds tense and creepy
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>>138356880
If you're going to farm souls, you should at least farm NPCs with sets to drop.
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>going to play through Dark Souls 3 and take my time
>first playthrough will probably take 50 hours
>midway through I'm going to get repeatedly invaded by aspie fuckers that skip all dialogue, cutscenes, and exploration to reach endgame asap just so they can upload MLG pro invading vids on their youtube channel
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>GMG still hasn't sent me my code
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>>138356972
>SL 79
>can't beat Gwyn
lad...
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Does this image mean the character is a PURE knight and the wenches are trying to sully his chastness?
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Reminder that real men roll Deprived.
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>>138356279
I'll admit that he has a good voice, a sense of humor and good video presentation. But he's known for plagiarism and jews out his channel. Also people gather around him and claim his word is gospel.
>>138356804
The only npc invader who will always invade you forever and at random. But he rarely invades and he's just a generic invader. The first time I fought him, I was hyped because it looked like he more likely surround himself with other enemies like player invaders but that was a fluke.
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>>138356951

Fuck off retard.
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>>138357036
It's a horrible kind of feel, innit?
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>>138356951
Ssh don't trigger the PvPfags.
Their minigame is a big deal, the focus of the endgame, what keeps the series alive!
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>>138356502
For being new to the series I must say you have great taste in Souls Girls.

Mildred best Souls girl
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>>138356549
Old, decrepit, and filled with desperation. Everything from DS1 is a shadow of their former selves. I almost felt bad for the chaos demons on how far they have fallen.
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>>138357009
Canyt seem to get the timing down, even with target shield. Been at this for and hour and a half.

Send help
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Does helping the host in DS3 restores your ember mode?
Is there a small white sign soapstone? That thing is among the best ideas DS2 has offered the series.
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>>138357021
That's what Australians sound like anon.
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So what's the point of the mound-makers if hosts can tell that you're one of them before summoning you? Who would willingly summon you that wouldn't if you were just using a red soapstone normally? It also seems that invading as one doesn't change anything except making you hostile to other invaders. So is it just an intentional hardmode thing then?
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>>138357186
You get Ember form and Ember from beating a boss. And no.
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>>138356756
I'm not sure yet when I'll play 3 but I am hyped so I'll probably cave and pick it up right away tomorrow once my steam friends start playing.

Is it true this is the last game they're making? or is it just the last "Souls" game and they're going to go with some sort of new direction?
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>>138354208
Tfw tried to fake an accident to get off for 3 days at least
Tfw everyone is incompetent and can't do shit with out me tellling them what to do


Just cuck my shit up famas
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>>138357157
>Everything from DS1 is a shadow of their former selves
Those silver knights are brutal this time around
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>>138356951
>DeS, DaS, BB, DaS3
>PvE oriented
>DaS2
>PvP oriented
I can see a pattern here
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>>138356951
Hey I'm just glad that shockwaves are now a legitimate weapon
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>>138357112
It just means our chosen undead is becoming more hollow to the point he's talking to Drangleic skeletons.
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>>138357262
Beating a boss in just my world, or as a summoned phantom as well?
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so close
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>tfw you don't care about the PvP
>only want to play the game at my pace
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>>138357117
>But he's known for plagiarism and jews out his channel. Also people gather around him and claim his word is gospel.

Add to that the fact he ends up saying some of the dumbest shit when he doesn't have lore ready at hand for him to copy. Part of the problem is that he just is not a good analyst, he doesn't actually get the lore until it is explained to him, so he is almost entirely reliant on his plagiarism.
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>>138356859
In games, sure, we can call it AI. Real life wise? it's basically VI.
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>>138357028
You can just pick up the whole drakeblood set from the corpse that has the gesture to get to archdragon peak supposedly.
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>>138356754
45 since ring of the embedded will net you +5vig vit and end
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>>138357303
It exist since Demon's Souls.
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>>138357337
Then play offline.
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>>138357329
You get Ember form if you kill the boss in your world, as a phantom you get both
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>>138357386
Like, 40 +5 from the ring for 45 total, or 50 total?
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>>138355559
I like BB more than 3. I do not think you will have a problem going back.
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>>138356565
what do you mean? you pick the offline option
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>>138357343
No, AI has never been about programs that learn.
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>>138357274
Nerfed in 1.03
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>>138357368
I'm not saying specifically to farm the Drakeblood Knights. Plenty of NPCs have full sets to drop.
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>>138357559
Show some patch notes nigger
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WHO /switchedtogamesplanetandnowfullypreloaded/ HERE?
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>>138357559
Haven't been through there since the patch hit
How bad are they now?
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>>138357263
This is the last game From Software was under contract with Bandai Namco for.

From Software may go in the sci-fi direction after this, no confirmed type of game etc.

Sony / Bandai Namco may do something with the souls IP after FromSoft is done however.
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>>138357571
If im farming souls. i could literally give 2 shits about farming a useless set.
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>>138356993
Nope, he's always been a noble greatsword 2hander that learned Pyro n Flow so he could fry the finest of chicken. But he's always black as fuck and my first run character.
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>>138357386
With that ring, do you think 20 End/20 Vig is enough, or will I need more Stamina than that?
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>>138357559
Anyone from nipland confirm that fellow nips are casul faggots?
>>
Its patching

ITS PATCHING

WHATS HAPPENING
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>>138357615
>patch notes
>for a from game
Dumb retrard, just try with and without patch.
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>>138357624
I'm just waiting on my refund from GMG and I'm switching
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>>138357674
That's actually my webm of said fat black character
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>>138357674
HOLY SHIT IS THAT THE GARGOYLE FIRE SPEAR? I NEED THAT SHIT
reqs and scaling?
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>>138357615
>>138357760
If this is true that is pretty interesting. I was feeling like I was having a much easier time farming them.
>>
I bought Borderlands 2 from GMG and got the key to preload 2 days early. I bought Fallout 4 from GMG and got the key to preload 4 days early. I wonder what the deal is with DS3. Oh well, I bought the PS3 version of DS2 on amazon and despite preordering it a month early they ran out of copies and I got mine 3 days after it was released. I'm used to disappointment with these games.
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>>138357553
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence_%28video_games%29
Also in the link of the definition you showed, see pic related.
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>>138353939
yes
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>>138357279
>DaS2
>PvP oriented
lol
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So I wanna play the Crown DLC trilogy for DS2 before I start on 3 but I don't want to spend the money on the season pass or First Sin upgrade.

Is there a way to pirate just the DLCs or would I have to pirate a full package of DS2 or First Sin?
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>>138357760
To be fair, DaS1 and DaS2 patches both had patch notes consistently. Especially all of DaS1's, even the ones that never actually got a western release and only the Japs got to play with them in play first.

Such cases include the "sorry, we broke summoning" patch, the "we broke summoning again" patch and the "summoning works again now" patch, for Jap-exclusive patches. Ring of Fog etc etc's balance changes had patch notes, too
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>>138357972
Its funny how the DS1 PS3 Miracle Signs stuill wont work properly.
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>>138357553
>>138357908
Along with that
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whats the stuff about being human/undead or whatever in DS games? I've only played BB.
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NO DENUVO PLS
NEW CHAMPION COVENANT PLS
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>>138357908
>Since game AI for NPCs is centered on appearance of intelligence and good gameplay within environment restrictions, its approach is very different from that of traditional AI; workarounds and cheats are acceptable

Don't be pedantic. Everyone knows what a person means when they say "AI" in reference to a video game.
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Can someone with the game confirm how much damage Blessed Weapon (the buff) does at 15 faith (its minimum requirements?). I will be very grateful if you do so.
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>>138357836
Shieeeeeeet, what a coincidence. Can't wait to try that thing since it looks fun as fuck and will be nice for my Lavitz run despite the element difference.
>>138357859
15/18/9/9
E/D/E/E
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>>138358093
You have to be a bit more specific with the question before I can help you
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>>138358150
>NO DENUVO PLS
pirate pls go
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>>138358159
I know. I just have free time and decided to shitpost.
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>>138358093
Undead are humans who can't die.

If you die you'll just reappear and keep going.

Sounds good, but the down side is if you don't have a purpose in life you slowly become a mindless zombie
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>>138357941
>Arenas
>Using resources for useless pvp-only areas
>weakest PvE in the series
>not pvp oriented
Please pvpturd go back to twich or something.
>inb4 m-muh souls memory
Not my fault if B team is incompetent as fuck.
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>>138358093
In DaS you can become human by consuming a point of "Humanity".

While human you can summon / be invaded, and have slightly improved defence / item discovery up to 10 soft humanity.

While hollow you look like beef jerky.

In DaS2 you can be invaded at any time and suffer a health penalty every time you die until you become human.

You can summon while human, and some small events are active while human/hollow.


In DaS3, we're no longer undead, we're "Unkindled", which is functionally the same as DaS, except we don't look like beef jerky.
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>>138358093
It's the same respawning mechanic, the only difference is you turn into an rotting corpse when you die and have to use a consumable to turn back into human. You can only summon while in human form.
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>>138358180
I know theres something about being in human form and you change that somehow, and then there's some stuff when you die you lose health because something something

>>138358317
dont try me m8
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Can i get some help in killing orenstien and smack on the xbox one please?
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>>138357050
Got my code 3 hours ago
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>>138358317
No, no.
Those with the curse are those you describe, but undead can be all types a fuckin shit. See: Ravelord's friends, Unkindled.
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>>138358078
The pic you just posted is talking about how making programs that learn makes creating AI easier. It is not saying AI = learning.

>>138357908
this link doesn't even say anything about AI is about learning

Also >wikipedia

If you look at any actual definition non of them say AI = learning
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>>138358039
DaS1 really had a rough life, especially for its connectivity. I still remember one of those early patches where summoning was kinda broken in Japan so it delayed us getting the big balance fix sooner. 2ch had images of the floors of Anor Londo filled with summon signs which seemed neat compared to how scarce they were early on, just for all of them to fail endlessly
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>>138358165
Less than a resin. It's the weakest buff in the game in terms of damage. The benefit is the flat HP/s regen that's non-scaling.
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>>138357674
>legend of dragoon reference
MY

NIGGER
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So why did Tarkus switch to FUGS?
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>>138357036

>tfw I'll be able to invade the new NA players in the Undead Settlement with my Grand Lance

Pokey-pokey!
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>>138358165
Daily faith/miracles scaling reminder

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12SWqLUYuJ2AMS0WBjYSL0IZr1reADaIm_tRmq-jZwrM/edit

Anyway the Blessed buff it's always 10ap
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>>138358513
Because it's not Tarkus.

It's Tsorig.
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>>138357453
Thanks, m8.
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which would benefit most from the heavy infusion

great machete
ds2 greatsword
great club
great axe
great scythe

assuming 40str
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>>138358448
Hu, I guess I mis-understood it. I thought the curse WAS being undead.
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>>138357331
>onlyafro.jpg
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>>138358552
Someone warn that guy, there are other lolis hiding in the truck. It's a trap, there's no rock vinyls at all.
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>>138356020
You know you can pretty much do a quality, "master of 90% of weapons" build in Bloodborne, too, right? The only thing stopping you is maybe the rarity of Blood Rocks and the necessity to farm good blood gems if you want to get through NG+ easily and PvP.

And be honest with yourself: was there really that much build variety in ANY of these games? DaS1 is the same: you can comfortably make an SL 120 quality build that can use 90% of the weapons at full effectiveness, no problem. By that metric, there aren't any STR or DEX builds, right?
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>>138358552
By AP you mean final damage or is it a synonym for AR?
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How long should it take to decrypt the game with a 7200 RPM HDD?
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>>138358625
Whichever ones moveset you like the most.

Except great scythe.
That's not for STR.
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>>138357479
50 total, but really you can go for 35 and have 40 total. 50 is just the ideal.

>>138357715
20 total end will be enough, but I'd rather go for 30. 20 vig will leave you frail.
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so m80s, online or offline for first playthrough?
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How much bonus damage you get from Red Tear stone ring and Morion blade combo?
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>>138358078
>>138357908
>learning
>under goal
I mean, yes, sure, it's always been a goal to make AI that can learn and ultimately replicate itself. That, however, is left to the dudes at Google, Boston Dynamics, and other big entities that study and improve this kind of shit. That, however, does not a necessary characteristic of AI. You can have AI that is "dumb" as shit and doesn't learn anything. The autopilot some cars and most planes have doesn't learn jack fucking squat outside of what it's programmed to and it is still an AI. A robot sorting boxes in a factory (>>>/wsg/1030854) still has an AI, even though it's not capable of learning anything on its own.
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>>138358761
Bruteforce decrypting will take years if their encryption is even remotely competent. There's more work involved with cracking an encryption than that
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>>138358810
I always go online in any playthrough. Not to summon, but I like getting invaded and invading other people
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>>138358513
He's not actually Tarkus.
"Knight Slayer Tsorig" is a guy using Tarkus' armor and the FUGS.

Not entirely sure what his deal is.
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>>138358428

DS1: You can summon and not look like Beef jerky in human form. You lose a bit of curse reisistance and item discovery but otherwise no downsides to hollow form

DS2: You lose 10% of your health each time you die until you turn into a green zombie. Turning Human sets your health to max

DS3: No human or hollow form unless you do a special quest line. Being embered gives you a 30% health boost and lets you summon.
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>>138358810
Always online.
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>>138358762
>Except great scythe.
cant you make any weapon a STR weapon now? i figured it was like bloodborne and the heavy abyssals.
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>>138358804
Oh, I meant Vit (equip load) not Vig (HP).

Is it worth leveling Vit beyond 15-20 this time around, with the embedded ring? I've heard some of the cool-looking sets are really heavy this time but then it's just a fashion souls tax I guess
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>>138358884
I'm talking about Steam decrypting the preload after it releases
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>>138354836
its literally a few hours away
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>>138358451
>The post literally says machine learning is studying computer algorithms that improve through experience
>Has even been in since the beginning
>AI isn't programs learning
Cool.
The second one was about AI in games basically VI. The argument is not AI = learning. The argument was the difference between VI and AI, in which AI learns, VI doesn't.
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>>138358761
>still using a mechanical drive
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>>138358715
Yeah it's a synonym.
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>>138358810
Offline for true blind playthrough. The bloodstains and msgs will spoil you.
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>>138358945
Infusing a weapon just increases the scaling in favor of your chosen infusion.

Like it'd push an A to an S, or a D to a C.

But Great Scythe's like what, C scaling in STR?
So with heavy you'd get a B, which is meh.
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>>138355442
you can still choose in the default version you stupid fuck, talk to aldia and he tells you you can sit in the throne or fuck off and escape the cycle
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>>138358443
FROM GREEN MAN?

PLEASE RESPOND
>>
What balance of Dex to Faith would you go for on a Dex/Faith build? Mostly I want to use the Swordspear, maybe Twinswords + Sunlight Blade, and occasionally slam someone with a Sunlight Spear point-blank when they leave themselves open.
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>>138359113
Please learn some self-restraint
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>>138359031
Yes that's machine learning, not AI. Seems you need to work on your reading comprehension, it literally says that machine learning benefits AI not that it is AI
>>
Is Ocelot somewhere in the game?
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>>138359186
I think you need a lot of faith to make it worth it. Havent really used it too much though.
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Why did this happen?
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>>138356279
because he marketed and spammed his first videos here with ideas ripped directly from these threads, hes a thief and a faggot
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>>138353369

I bought it for ~$45 off Gamesplanet a few days ago and got my key almost immediately.
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>>138355532
the original picture isn't lewd is it? i assume one is tarkus and the other is gwyndolin but I haven't seen the full one
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>>138359237
A baby
You kill it
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>>138359236
>Programs that learn through experience
>This is not AI
Alright, what've you got. I wanna hear the name for this one.
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>>138359278
ds3 is like bb, right?
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>>138359204
Are you saying you wouldn't notice msgs in front of walls and bloodstains in a perfectly normal area or do you pretend to believe those are all lies?
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>>138359260
Yeah, I'm shooting for like 50 Faith. I know it's not ideal (that'd be 60) but I'm planning on this being more of a hybrid than an infused weapon/casting build, and Sunlight Spear can one-shot players point-blank even at like 45 Faith apparently.

Do you think 30 Dex is enough in this case? Otherwise I'm going to have to have like 30 Vigor which seems really low.
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>>138359358
where is it
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Where do you get Havels Ring +2?
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>>138359323
>using a yurocuck website
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>>138359186
Either 40DEXor 20DEX+ Sages ring (Casting speed) depending on how well your chosen weapon scales with Dex.

Sunlight spear is like, usually 55 faith isn't it?

So probly 20DEX+ Ring + 50FAI (Or whatever the requirement for your desired spells) and the rest into VGR up to the softcap, then whatever you want.
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>>138359425
Okay, DaS1 had messages at that well and I killed myself jumping down it the first playthrough I did on PS3
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>>138359098
10 AR only? That's pathetic. I'd probably get more if I put my extra points into Str and Dex past 40 instead of wasting them on faith to get this crappy buff. The wiki says the regen is only 2hp/sec, too.
>>
when exactly does the game unlock for those of us who purchased it on the psn store (EST)
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>>138358951
Really you'll just need enough vit to use the stuff you want, so 15 or 20 vit could definitely fit that bill.
>>
>>138359589
In about 120 minutes.
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>>138359475
Ng++ i think?
>>
What does the Season Pass for Dark Souls 3 entail?
It says "Expand your DARK SOULS™ III experience with the Season Pass and gain access to 2 epic DLC packs at a discounted price"

Am I getting cucked if I get it? Looks like I won't get anything if I get the deluxe edition

What do you think?
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>>138359373
Ok anon i'm starting to think you're just ruse-ing me "Machine learning is the study of computer algorithms that improve automatically through experience" What you're calling AI is machine learning, straight from the source you provided.
Machine learning =/= AI
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>>138359589
It's a global release, so what, 9am at the International date line?

i.e. 20hrs from now?
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>>138359748
Wait until we have more info on the DLCs and then buy the season pass.
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why does this exist
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what went wrong with the dark souls community?
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>>138358631
It is. I'm just pointing out that not all undead are cursed.
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>>138359376
Yes, but the loincloth makes it more like DaS1
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>>138359373
You seem to be missing something here.

Machine learning is a feature that an AI could have. It is not a defining trait of an AI. The defining trait of AI is that it mimics human intellect and just one of the ways it can mimic human intellect is by machine learning.

A door can have a lock. Doors that do not have locks are still doors. The defining trait of a door is that it opens and closes, not that it locks.
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>>138359815
for a youtube personality
>>
Dark souls 3 is a boring, shitty game which rehashes stuff to appease fanboys while bringing nothing new of worth to the game
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>>138359828

I wanna pinch Miyazaki's cheeks and give him a big kiss!
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ARE WE READY BOYS???

STOCK UP ON YOUR TWINKIES

GET YOUR DESIGNATED SHITTING SOCKS READY

IT'S HAPPENING
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>>138360006
Just go play Yoshi's Story
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>>138359278
DaS3s are even longer. They are pretty much just pants
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>>138360006
You seem a bit confused, friend
/vg/ is for discussing games you like
/v/ is where you go to shitpost about games you dislike
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>>138360071
>Not playing it already
Come on bro
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>>138360148
>/vg/ is for discussing games you like
Well I dislike DS3 and yet I'm posting here
But do report my post let's see how that goes faggot
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>>138360071
>30 day supply of food
>dead from deep vein thrombosis by day three
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>>138359780
And again i'll state
> computer algorithms that automatically improve through experience
>not AI
I'm not talking about machine learning and i don't know how you managed that i was. I am talking about the part i just greentexted.
>>138359974
See above.
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>>138359815
Someone cheated in a design-a-shield contest and recycled a stock photo. fromsoft decided to make a joke of it and design their own pigshield for the game.
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I don't want to necessarily spoil locations/traps/bosses/etc., but is there anything you wish you knew before you started playing?

You know, minor bullshit things that can't easily be undone. Something along the lines of "this stat is useless, don't level it", "do not select this class", "do not select this dialog option with this NPC because it locks you into some bullshit that can't be undone", "don't choose to use that boss item to craft this useless weapon, save it for something else", etc.
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>>138360229
>report my post
Now there's no need for that. I'm sure you've learned your lesson and will be using the proper boards for your discussion topics in the future
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>>138359589
I'm on EST and it'll be midnight.
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>>138359974
>>138360314
Why are you anons still arguing about intelligence in video games.
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>>138359475
Is this the best gaming related comedy of all time?
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>>138360314
computer algorithms that automatically improve through experience are AI yes, but its not a requirement for AI you ding dong. You can have a program that doesnt change whatsoever and still be AI.
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>>138360314
> computer algorithms that automatically improve through experience
>not AI

You're definitely missing something now.
You have, in fact, gotten the argument almost entirely backwards.

It's not that computer algorithms that can learn are not AI, it's that computer algorithms that can not learn can still be AI.
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Am I the only one getting insane ripples caused by this strange anti-aliasing? I haven't gotten far in my press-version yet, but the grass, the tree in the distance near the first bonfire... Whenever you move, and then stop and let the camera gradually stop, you can see those small lines rippling like shit, almost like it's a 480p upscale. Holy fuck. I mean, seriously, DS1 looks a lot better than this, even though the actual models, lighting and shadowing are insane, this weird AA effect ruins it completely.

Or is it just because of poor monitors? I tested it on 2 monitors and also on a laptop, happens everywhere. All 3 are not-so-expensive TNs though.
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>>138360430
Don't level up luck.
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>>138360430
I got an important one
Don't play the game

>>138360432
hmmm
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Do you guys think the Eleonora will be viable at all? I really dig it!
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Fuck, Amazon isn't shipping my order until Thursday. I guess in the long run its better for me since I have an exam that day
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>>138360430

I wish I understood how spell scaling worked when I first started.
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>>138359564
Wait sorry, tested again.
Blessed is a flat +7.5% AR.
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why is nobody able to answer if you can use dualshock 4 on the PC version? does the button layout change or does it stay xbox?
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>>138360621
DS4windows and wait for mods
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>>138360508
Did you try forcing AA with the GPU control panel?
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>>138360468
Cause we're killing time till danksouls comes out.
>>138360505
>>138360507
Fine, do we wanna go with
AI(Sentient) and AI(N-Sentient) then?
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>>138360621
Because it's not out for regular PC users yet anon.
We don't know.
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Will low level pvp be fun for someone new like myself? can I just fuck around with different weapons and invade/be invaded without shit just running my ass over in 1 hit?
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>>138360550
>can't be buffed or infused
I wanted a Heavy Eleonora.
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>>138360006
honestly they can keep releasing the same game with gradual refinements and added features until the day i die and i will keep buying it.
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WHEN DOES IT UNLOCK


It said approximately 20 hours when I checked 4 hours ago and it's still at 20 hours
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>>138360730
No we go with the actual definition that doesn't mention learning at all.
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>>138360759
Yeah no twinks now
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>>138356179
I want to play through the game, not deal with assholes trying to ruin my experience
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>>138360798
Sounds like CoD.
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>>138360730
>Cause we're killing time till danksouls comes out.
Can't argue with that.

>>138360759
>Will low level pvp be fun
No.
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I enjoy a weird thing in souls games. I always level mag/int to high values, keeping str/dex to weild a weapon of choice, and use the magic-scaling weapon upgrade path. Only melee, no offensive magic, light armor (like oolacile's set in DS1, yuria's set in DeS) with occasional defensive spells used.

I know this is already becoming a meme, but, hopefully, knight won't be better than sorcerer for me?
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>>138360430
Most of the boss weapons arent worth a shit.
don't level up luck.
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I'm begging you, help me kill Sanctuary Guardian. This is the hardest fight in all of the Souls series for me and I just want to continue on.

Ps3, level 57. Please. I'm using Kellog's Furysword and I am running out of humanity due to dying so often. I just want to move on.
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>>138360759

When you invade, you're paired with hosts based on your weapon upgrade levels. Kinda like "weapon memory". You're most likely going to be on par with whomever you're invading, so you should be ok.
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>>138360913
>No

Is it because our health and shit will be too low?
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>>138357036
If you dont want to get invaded then play on offline mode
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eu release when? It's the 11th already you cunts.
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>>138360603
Thanks you a lot Anon.
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>>138361054
19h23m give or take
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>>138358346
Because soul collection brackets existed, mixed with soul level, noone ever met the requirements to invade me. I never met the requirements to be auto summoned as a sentinel. I never pvped in souls 2. It was as much of a failure at pvp as you are at posting.
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>>138361006
Min-maxing faggots.

Hornet ring exists.
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>>138360698
mods?

>>138360748
I bet theres anons in here that have the pc version
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>>138360994
It could have been, if it didn't have so little HP and did more damage.
Anyway, you can get FREE hits on it after the wind wave (don't fucking block it, roll to the side), and after the headbutt dive.
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buy a key and preload or should i wait til after release?
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>>138360929

Knight is horrible for any magic class. If you wanna be a Sorcerer, then choose Pyromancer. You get extra "firepower" (LOL) in pyromancies and I think the stats are better distributed. You also start with the Hand Axe, which is way better than the shitty Mail Breaker.
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>>138360621
>or does it stay xbox?
does that really matter?
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are there any dex weapons with an inbuilt buff? all the weapons I've seen with buffs built in are str or quality
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can't wait for those new praise teh sun memes with siegward
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>>138361274
I dodge the wind but his super combo gets me immediately and his swooping headbutt ignores my shield and I can't seem to dodge in time.

I'm trying, anon, I'm trying.
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Do I really have to give this old faggot an Effigy and then do the dungeon every single time I die to try Darklurker again?
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>20 hours left
>22:48 pm
that means it will be ready by tomorrow's 6pm what a load of crap

why say ready on the 11th if it isn't ready at 12am?
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I was asking questions about interesting exotic sounding names in line with the npc phantoms you can summon in the soulsborne games.

I'm still curious if anyone has interesting sounding ideas. So far I like "Zanoah" as the name but I haven't chosen a noun or adjective to go with it.
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>Invade a FUGS

>Body them with a dagger

>Get 2 hit by the combo, like half my health, 1800HP, big deal

>Kill them

Damn they went overboard on that nerf. Thing seems useless now.
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>>138361316
yes the button layout is completely different. I will get confused.
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>>138361310
I agree. the pyromancer has better stat spread from the start then the sorc. the sorc has a bunch of points in luck. and the pyromancer has enough faith to use the best pyromancies from the start so you dont even have to touch it.
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>>138360887
yeah but call of duty's gameplay elements are a watered-down version of classical first-person shooters, its story is generally terribly written and runs no more than the length of a summer blockbuster, has no lore to speak of, and due to its multiplayer focus is generally more dynamic and less reliant on level-memorization and design. call of duty is a shitty game made over and over again.

dark souls is actually, at its core, a good game.
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>>138361372
There's a katana that get's a buff by stabbing yourself. I know it adds bleed, not sure about damage.
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>>138361310

Also (I forgot to mention this.) the extra FAI that the Pyromancer starts with will help you more easily attain the required stats for the Cleric's Candlestick, which is a sword/catalyst hybrid that you can obtain pretty early on in the game.

>>138361372

Irithyll Great Scythe has a buff that makes it inflict frostbite. Other than that, I don't know.
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>>138360818
>says 20 hours
>checks 4 hours later

you're a fuckin' faggot don't you have friends? Go hangout with them instead of obsessing over a game you loser
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>>138355915
>he didn't purchase the other souls games
enjoy your extra week of not playing, faggot.
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>>138360994
stop trying to summon people then. let the fight better you.
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>>138361503
>I will get confused.
jesus man it's not that hard
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>>138361431

(Latin or discreet foreign language name) "Of" (Souls--related location)

Alternatively.
(Name) "The" (Occupation)
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>>138355797
DLC ;)
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>>138361503
You can't possibly be serious
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>>138361546
You're a fucking faggot. Don't you have friends? Go hangout with them instead of posting about video games on 4chan, you loser.
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>>138361597
This fight is not fun for me; I want to spend as little time on it as possible. Manus kicked my shit in seven ways from Sunday on my first playthrough but that fight was at least fun. This is just tedious and frustrating. I want it over.
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>>138361739
The X button.
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>>138361431
i always just choose a word i like the sound of then choose a name that starts with the same letter.
>duplicitous dave
off the top of my head. all my characters are named like this
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>>138361842
x is way more comfortable than O as dodge
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>>138361546
20 HOURS
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>>138361417
Just back away with the shield up in case it hits or just roll away two three times and it shouldn't be able to touch you.
As for dodging the dive in time, well, you'll just have to git gud for this one.
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>>138361607
>>138361739
what do you mean?

do you notice the big difference? if the game asks me to push one button and it's a completely different one, it will be confusing.
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>>138360994
Don Havel's, you baka.
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>>138355883
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>>138361756
epic name bro has a video on how to fight the thing. you can dodge everything.
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>>138361420

how stupid can you be
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what is the deal with i-frames in DS3? i can't find any info after a cursory search. agility is obviously gone, so are we back to i-frames based on the category of your roll?
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>>138362063
>not having memorized the locations of both sets of buttons
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FUCK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF FIRST TIME BUILD I'M DOING!

I was going to do a Dex/Pyro run but that seems questionable. Maybe just straight Dex?

I've never gotten to play a Souls game right from the start and be a part of early invasions either so I'd like to take part in some of that. Also are throwing knives useful at all in PVP or PVE? Do they scale off anything?

I really want to be a real Dickwraith and serve Kaathe and hang out with cool edgy folks like Yuria.
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>>138361431
I always go with Dalton, it works for every game.
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>>138355883
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>>138362063
Literally the only difference is the button vs dpad, if you dont adjust to it within 5 minutes youre a fucktard
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>>138362229
I have to a point, but if the game asks me to push Y how am I suppose to know what that will be on the dualshock?
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>>138362063
At first.
If you don't get used to it within an hour, you're a casual.
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Is the international release dropping at the same time globally, or staggered? Like, will NZ get it first?
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>>138362235
I always play a classic Knight on my first runs of Souls games. And this time it seems to be THE go-to build.
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>>138355883
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>>138361936
>not having it be back right button on meme controller
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>>138362385
>I have to a point
then you should know y is on top dumbass
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>>138360730
We go with "AI" because everyone already knows what you're talking about.

It's linguistically valid from common usage.
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JUST TO CONFIRM:

>Hollowing, the stat, the visual cues of it, the dark sigils, none of it has any effect on any weapon, spell, attack or scaling of any kind, it's purely story shit

>The part of Firelink Shrine you warp to before warping again to the Kiln is a completely useless segment with no items or anything and seems like extremely pointless filler

>Dark Firelink Shrine is a dumping ground for fanservice, not handled well at all

>No complexity or variables involving transformations or hollowing, nothing. Just same old dragon covenant, no interesting skeleton mode or black goop mode or anything

>Every single weapon has identical movesets within it's class, barely much difference, most of the items are returned stuff, very few actual new stuff

>Covenants are awful compared to DaS2, no interesting perfected version of what the Rat King tried to accomplish

>No depth in item drops, no rare shit gated behind rare enemies

>Can't infuse boss/unique weapons, severely reducing the build variety of the videogame

>No poise makes armour pointless, defences are minimal at best, the hands down best thing to do is equip the rags and get fastroll to escape pokes via roll distance and chase down midrollers

Game seems bleh. Where's all this depth Miyazaki was talking about?
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>>138362235
Quality has always been the bread-and-butter solely because you can never go wrong with physical damage alone.
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>>138362235
I'm doing a no-magic quality build with throwables. mercenary through and through
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>>138362214
also, is armor actually useful again? all these burning questions
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I want to go dex build but I don't know what weapon I want to use, I've already used a katana in DaS2 so I'd like to avoid katanas

Any suggestions? What's the most fun?
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>>138355883
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>>138361431
Go with something like Zanoah the Undying or Deathless Zanoah
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can anyone post the starter class guide with the art?
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>>138362407
>>138362367
so I'm a casual fucktard for getting confused when a game refer to a button layout that's different than the controller I'm using?
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>>138362584
No. and Yes.
If you're not wearing a piece of armor in a slot you get a - to base resist.
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>>138361152
>I NEVER DID PVP IN DAS2
>SO ITS NOT PVP ORIENTED
Can you be even more retarded?
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>>138353369
This

I-i-its f-fine

I BACKED THE WRONG FUCKING HORSE
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>>138362693
You are, neither of the previous souls had the ds4 layout and I had no trouble with it past the first 10 minutes.
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>>138362693
No.
You're a casual fucktard if you fail to adapt to the difference.
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>>138362819
>If you're not wearing a piece of armor in a slot you get a - to base resist.
based fromsoft.

but what are i-frames based on now?
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>>138362693
Yeah if you keep getting confused after like half an hour.

Y and Triangle are literally the same things, Circle and B are both red and round.

The only confusing one is X because it switches places. But Like I said if you dont adjust within a short period then yes ur dumb
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>>138362235

Go pure DEX and get the Warden's Twinblades and put bleed resin on them when you invade. You don't even need LCK-- that shit will bleed people out really quickly, especially if you use the WA.
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>>138357827
This. Was my first time ordering from GMG, too. Fucking disgraceful.
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What's the character limit for names?
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Would a pyro hybrid with 40 Dex and 25/25 Int/Faith be any good, assuming I'm also using three pyro-boosting rings? I want to wield the Carthus Curved Greatsword, buff it, and throw fire everywhere.

Or is the Chaos infusion strong enough that I should just say fuck it and infuse the thing?
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So has anyone gotten GMG codes yet?

Apparently its too late to get a refund based on their policy.
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>>138362905
No idea. no stat for it now like in DS2. there is a ring that gives you more iframes i think
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>>138362890
>>138362896
>>138362970
how rude you are.
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>tfw you start hating every weapon due to PvP
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>>138363140
just use a weapon with a high dex requirement, infuse it with chaos and put on sage's ring

25 dex + sage's ring will get you max cast speed
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Time to respec to a Str/fai build
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>>138363276
Rather be rude than a pissbaby.
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>>138363276
dumbo
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>>138363339
Don't do it anon. It's not fucking worth it.
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>>138363110
I can't wait to see DS3 on there.
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>>138363375

La Fabuleaux Destine Du Amelie Poulain is my favorite movie.
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>>138362693

Yes dumb ass. Just learn the positions its really not that hard.
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How much Attunement would you get on a pyro build?
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>>138354208
>mfw I go to my job's orientation on the 21st.
>have a week to play DaS3 and eat pizza.
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>>138363339
>50 FP
>>
30ish
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>>138355950
I'll only hack when im sure I can't be banned, like infinite health on Dark Souls 2 or literally anything on Dark Souls 1.

Imagine how terrible life would have been if I tried to use infinite shards and got softbanned?
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>>138363540
Enough for 4 slots and nothing more in my opinion. if you're talking about DS3 that is.
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>>138362558
>No poise makes armour pointless, defences are minimal at best, the hands down best thing to do is equip the rags and get fastroll to escape pokes via roll distance and chase down midrollers

The frames you get hyper armor on seem to be somewhat dependent on your armor. The heavier the armor, the longer you'll be in protected from a stagger. The Wolf Ring apparently applies to this.

It will be sorted out once PC is released and CE can be used to get the values.
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>>138363454
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Does anyone have the pic of the starting classes?
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>>138363513
>writing out the entire thing
Decent taste, awful writing. Everyone knows it's just "Amelie".
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>>138363674
Yeah, DS3, and that's what I was assuming. That's 24 Attunement.

Now to decide if I want to go 30/30 and rely on Chaos infusion, or go 25/25, go to 40 Dex, and buff on top of it. I want to go full Carthus.
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>>138363646
Just family share the game from the start and do your CE work on the shared account.
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>>138356502
this one has a different bag
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>>138363110
DaS3 is without a doubt havelstoc.

Havelstoc has existed in every game, but he's legitimately actually OP to the highest degree anything has ever been OP.

All the builds in that gif wouldn't survive the DaS3 havelstoc. Not even arcane rifle spear bloodborne. He'd just block all that shit till they were out of bullets and facepoke them.
>>
Why they still use that retarded left hand weapon block animation? the character holds everything in the same retarded way, doesn't matter if it's a dagger or a fuckhuge hammer.

Is it so hard to make the character to use both hands when defending with bigger weapons?
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>>138363762

whatever man
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>>138362693
This is same argument for grandma not understanding how this whole "email" thing works. Seriously just take the time to learn how it works and stop complaining.
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>>138363851
This
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>>138359815
Finding Porcine Shield behind the Smelter Demon was the funniest shit ever. Fucking B-team knew he was a bullshit boss.
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>>138363339

>Offer a gentle prayer to the shield, causing the woman's face to give out a low moan and attract enemies

Haha oh wow
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You hype anon?
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>>138364025
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>>138363886
I think im gonna keep a shotel or something for those at all times until it dies down.
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>>138360071
>shitting socks
don't you mean cum socks? I cum on my boxers too when out of sockls
>>
So wait..there's no cure for the hollowing that dude with the turtle back does? Only a ring to make you look normal?

I can't sacrifice a ring slot to look normal. Am I screwed for that storyline?
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>>138363110
16

Longer if you play on PC and use the big picture mode glitch
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>>138364025
>Of his sister
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>>138363914
They literally just copied all of Dark Souls's base code.

This is why the max 255/255/255 hair colour isn't white, it's Grey. Exactly like DaS1 was.

They literally lifted and kept intact much of the values from that game.

They literally thought the dual weapons would suffice.

I imagine many Dark Souls 2 dev team people were saddened by the ambidextrous regression.

Weapon arts are cool, but not worth losing the ability to combine weapons fluidly. You get more movesets doing that than having weapon arts.
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>>138359815
It was a tribute to youtube personality EpicNameBro.
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Does any DS2 armor set even come close?
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>>138363697
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>>138364131
Purging Stones reverse hollowing, deleting the stat. If you die again though, it starts creeping back.

You need to use a purging stone + heal the dark sigil. It can get expensive, the more you die the cost of healing the sigil goes up.
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>>138364131
You need to get a purging stone, then use the levelup waifu to remove the dark sigils.
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>>138364025
>of his sister
>upon being conferred knighthood
>given
That is one fucked up Knight Order in carim
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Is there seriously no bonefire accessible before the ruin sentinels? I wanted to spend my souls but i literally cant

what the fuck is this game design? how are people ok with this? this never happened in dark souls
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>>138364025
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>Those Ninja skeletons in the Catacombs
Fuck fighting these things
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>>138356827
>tyrone
so you're the faggot who made those shitty leddit-tier videos some time ago
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>This game will unlock in approximately 19 hours
SOON

'night /dsg/ it's 5:20AM
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How do Infusions work with scaling and whatnot in Dark Souls 3?

Like for example how would I spec a build intending to use Pyromancies and primarily Dex scaling weapons when accounting for the Chaos infusion?

>>138363847
I kind of want to go full-Farron and get the Carthus buffs going with the Farron Greatsword but I don't know how I would spec for it.
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>>138364310
>>138364312

So I can get the free level ups and use purging stones to cure the zombie look? I have to use a stone each time I die? Or will level up babe literally take from free level and everything?
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>>138364368
Kill Pursuer (at his actual boss location, not a random spawn) to get to the bonfire that's literally right beside the door to the ruin sentinels.

Also git gud. Also google.
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>>138364236
helmets in ds2 were all shit, alva best set
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>>138364504
You'll end up paying the cost of the levelups to remove the sigils anyways.
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>>138364504
Purging stones cure the zombie look, but not what causes the zombie.

Like I said, you need to cure the Dark Sigil at firekeeper to properly cure it.
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>>138364236
It's a solid set but pretty standalone combined with other sets. Helmet's too thin, armor's too fat and leggings have the skirt looking shit.
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>>138364025
Anyone have the image of Mornes helm?
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The fucking hornet ring has got to go.
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>>138363225
I requested one anyway. It's not like they can fuck you any worse for trying.
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>>138364610
Let me live out my Runescape fantasy in peace, nerd.
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>>138361123
Anyway here's some interesting data while I was testing the blessed buff on some skeletons.

-Unbuffed
469 AR
320 Damage
-Lighting Blade
597 AR
353 Damage
-Blessed buff
504 AR
445 Damage

Blessed is pretty strong against skellys!
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>>138364497
Only one of the Carthus buffs will work with the Farron Greatsword (Carthus Beacon)--Carthus Flame Arc is a weapon buff and boss weapons can't be buffed. All you'd need is 12/12 Int/Faith and 2 Attunement slots, then just go quality for the Farron sword.
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>>138364528
>alva best set
my nigga
>>138364658
Is parrying backstabs a bug or a thing?
>>138364687
Go do that and look like a fashion pleb
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>>138364743
Check the OP anon
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I'm allowed to blame the pc community that DaS3's eng version on console is released the same date on pc, right?
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>>138362132
>muh rorius nippon kontry gets it in time you arr wait morr horus xDDD
fuck you weeb
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>>138364323
well, the two guys from carim you meet in das1 don't seem to be very sane people
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>>138364582
>>138364608

Gotcha, so I can essentially get the sigils and still get that story while not being a zombie the whole game, that's all I need to know. I'm fine paying for the level ups. SM doesn't exist so I don't see a downside outside of having to farm a bit of souls.
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>>138364825
Blame Bamco for being retarded as fuck. From is selfpublishing in Japan.
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>>138364650
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>>138359748
>Looks like I won't get anything if I get the deluxe edition

You get the season pass and therefore the DLC whenever it comes out. It's just a matter of if you want to pay for it now or later.
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Does dark souls 3 show keyboard icons for peopel who dont have a controller?
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Are there no twinblades in DkS3? I'm referring to the Darth Maul shit, not the dual wield swords.

Seriously fucking disappointing if so. Why remove such a stylish weapon?

I've been using the dragonrider twinblade in DkS2 lately and I was looking forward to trying out the DkS3 variant. Are there really none?


pls respond
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If I preload my data from Japan, can I play the game 13 hours earlier when it unlocks over there?
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>>138365017
I haven't seen any. Sorry Anon
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>>138365017
Nope no twinblades.
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>>138359748
I just went for the deluxe because I've enjoyed AotA, the 3 DLC's for 2 and the BB DLC.

I WISH THE THE GIANTS ARCHSTONE WAS DES DLC FUCK
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>>138365017
git gud
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>>138364368

What this guy >>138364505 said. You can also roll the barrel at the top of the stairs down to blow open the wall to another bonfire, where the blacksmith is also at.
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>>138364025

>those cuts, burn marks and battered points of the shield
>Given to Eygon when he became a knight
>A deformed greatshield of his sister
>Eygon's armour is based off Morne the Apostle which looks like some hellish gargoyle that you would see on the old sistene chapel
>Greathammer is literally a giant block taken off a church wall and mounted on a polearm.

Eygon is the fucking best. I really hope we learn more about Morne and Cathia as well.
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So what's the lore behind Yhorm? Don't have the game yet but he looks interesting as fuck, and that goddamn theme music is just too good. I hear the fight itself is disappointing as fuck, but I just want to know his backstory is as great as everything else about him.
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So is the GMG release at the same time as the steam release or no? Im not sure if the posts ive seen are shitposters or telling the truth.

>>138364683
Yeah, I just feel like by the time the refund goes through the game will be out.
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>>138364658
Things that shouldn't be in the game or changed:

>Havel's Shield shouldn't exist
>Rapier class weapons should not cause any hitstun on the target, only damage, every single person should be able to poise through them by default
>Hornet Ring shouldn't be in the videogame
>Backstab protection ring shouldn't be in the videogame either
>Straight swords need to be slowed down
>Fist weapons need to be MAJORLY sped up and have their tracking made better
>Weight load should effect stamina regen
>Shield attacks should have hyper armour, currently they have none
>Katana running attack shouldn't be aimable or turn or curve, should be a locked direction the moment it was started

Some other shit.
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>>138356951
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>>138364715
Probably like DaS1, "blessed" things have an extra damage bonus against unholy enemies.
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>>138365086
>>138365101
I can feel my heart breaking.
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post favorite souls related ms paint art
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>>138365269
>Hornet Ring shouldn't be in the videogame
On that note, are fist riposte neck snaps back? It's the one reason I'd ever use it again.
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ENGRAVED GAUNTLETS
Pls tell me they're in DaS3
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DLC when?
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>>138365269
>MUH BALANCED PVP
Seriously just fuck off
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>>138365258

He doesn't belong to the race of Giants. He is literally just a massive human of immense strength but is referred to as "the Giant".
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>>138365421
Yes the neck snaps return.

>>138365425
No.
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Is pyromancy worth the massive stat requirement? Are there any good weapons that scale with int/faith?
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>>138364872
>360p
>redditcore

1/10
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>>138364236
Benhart's
Gyrm Warrior
Throne Watcher
King's
Dragonrider

The shitty leggings of drakeblood kill it for me
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>>138365439
2 hours after western release.
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So I haven't been checking in this last week, but my preloaded copy has patched itself like 3 times today. Major patch?
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>>138365472
YES! I LOVED THAT SHIT
THANKS ANON
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>>138364715
Nice to know blessed is not completely useless
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>>138365472
webm?
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Are whips good this time? How early can you get one?
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>>138365258
Hes a big as fuck human that is friends with onion bro somehow. was known for killing the shit outta shit.something about his wife dying or something in there as well.
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>>138365448
but he has the same proportions as the giant lord
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>>138365258
About the weapon that makes his fight super easy

>Yhorm the Giant once held two of these, but gave one to the humans who doubted him, and left the other to a dear friend before facing his fate as a Lord of Cinder.

He seemed like a pretty cool guy
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why must you lie to me GMG
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>>138363886
3000 damage through 90% reduction is still a fucking lot for a fast spammable attack anon

Also, blood bullets, you basically can't run out

Every weapon in bloodborne also has guaranteed guard break properties built into their trick attacks

Cursed weapon DBS dead angle into fire storm = dead turtle
2kat dead angle into pushlock = dead turtle
Havelmonster binobooster can literally just teleport behind the turtle and get a 3000 damage backstab with their mundane shadow dagger
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>>138365690
they are meh you get one in undead settlement
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>>138365798

But he doesn't have the spincter face, he's got a regular human face, albeit all scarred and shit.
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>>138364935
>>138364025
>>138364323
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>>138356236
>no preset black face option
fucking hell FROM why did I laugh so hard
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>>138365448
>>138365798
>>138365753
quality lore
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>tfw you kill the host before being sent home as a mound maker

>>138365690
The pyro whip is god tier but can't get it until 85% through the game.
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Where's the cheapest place to pick p DS3 right now? I have a place for $36, anywhere better?
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>>138365265
GMG is reselling. All signs point to not receiving keys until some time after release.

If the refund goes through after the game is out it's because GMG still hasn't sent you a key.
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>>138365959

Why the mail breaker?
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>>138365959
Quality meme, anon.
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In DS3, is pyromancy something that any character can dabble in pretty effectively, only spending souls and not building for it, like in 1 and 2? (I know that fire damage scaled with faith in 2 but you could still do pretty solid damage with a +10 Pyro flame, even if you had very low faith and int)

Or has it become like sorceries/miracles where you actually have to spec your character for pyromancy if you want to use it?
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>>138365862
>tfw g2a is telling me the same shit


(doubt)
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>>138366019
>$36

HUH?
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>>138365448
>>138365753
>>138365826
Can't wait to fight this nigga. Is using the sword next to his throne optional and just turns the fight into a joke? Or is it the only way to beat him?
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>>138353139
Could someone that played DaS3 or knows stuff answer a couple of questions?

What is the LUCK stat for? I know that hollow weapons scale with that stat and its for item discovery but I read that it doesnt seem to work well for item discovery now. IS that all it does or am I missing something?

How hard is it to find titanite/twinkling and scales in DaS3? Can you buy a unlimited amount at some point in the game or is it just found all over the game/farmed etc. ?

Are STR weapons any good in DaS3? I didn't see much to avoid spoilers but it seems that all of the good stuff is DEX based. Some weapons are getting even nerfed like FUG, is that true?

How are offensive miracles in this game? Are lightning spears viable? Are there more enchantments other than Darkmoon Blade and Sunlight Blade? Would running a miracle build be viable?

Are hexes like DaS2 where you spam Dark Orb's and run around with Dark Weapon? Is Dark Weapon even in the game?

Thank you for help.
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>>138365269
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>people who bought keys from third party sites panicking now
>they wont get their keys until 3 days after release
>mfw
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How balanced are the magic types? can you get away with using purely magic in pvp or does everyone need a giant sword now?
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>>138366019
Pay full price like everyone else you broke faggot
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>>138366172
Dunno, but some (most?) pyros have int/fth reqs.
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>>138365690

Their moveset got revamped. They're even better than they were in DaSII, but unfortunately you can't backstab or initiate a riposte with them.

I think the Witch's Locks is the best whip. It has good scaling in both in INT and FAI so you can use it with pyromancies.
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>>138366243
You can kill him without the sword. he takes like no damage though. kind of like killing vendrick in DS2 without any of the souls on your first playthrough ever.
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>>138366243

His leg defences are insane because he never skipped leg day, so you'll only do 50 damage to his legs per hit.

His arms however take regular damage because he forgot the golden rule that cardio kills gains. Hitting his arms puts him into vicsercal state where you can ram your weapon through his face a few times for moderate damage.
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>>138365862
Cancel the order Anon, I just did. GMG was a mistake
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>>138366014
what does the pyro whip scale with?
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>>138366423
How long would the refund take?
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>>138353139
Can someone explain how does this "Hollowing" work in DaS3?

You get free 5 levels, can get the "hidden" ending but look like beef jerky in return? Does it do anything else? Is it worth doing?

Can you just do it till the chick shows up and then heal the sign? Will she attack or stay in the shrine?

Is healing a sign expensive?
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>>138366282
>mfw I got my key like 3 days ago
>mfw watches these nerds panic about not getting keys when the game isn't even out for another day
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>>138366502
my dick
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>>138366502

iirc it gets B/B scaling with INT/FAI at +5.
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>>138366502
Paciencia y fe
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>>138366575
Excuse me, the game is out in 19 hours. That is less than 24 hours.
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>>138366289
pure magic will get your ass kicked in pvp just like any souls game, it is too slow and easy to dodge

magic is only useful if you use the weapons that can cast spells and randomly cast spells in between attacks to catch people off guard
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>>138366515
Not sure, You have to put in a ticket and someone from support will handle it for you.

I did it 2 days ago and yesterday I saw that I got refunded.

So you can try now and I'm sure they will refund it by tomorrow. Hopefully anyway.
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Obscuring Ring is bretty gud

>>138366172
a massive amount of pyro's damage comes from wearing the trio of fire boosting rings

>>138366246
Luck boosts hollow infusions damage, item discovery and poison/bleed application rate very slightly

You find upgrade items everywhere and at varying stages of the game every single upgrade item bar infusion gems and slabs are purchaseable.

STR/quality weapons are arguably the best

offensive non-pyromancey magic is awful until you get at least 50+ in the respective stat

Hexes are gone and there are just dark sorceries, miracles and pyromancies now.

>>138366289
Pyromancey is good but the other two schools of magic require 50+, preferably 60+ investment in their scaling stat.

>>138366541
there's no downside to hollowing outside of aesthetics and a single, not particularly good, weapon getting a damage boost against you.
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>>138366282
>>138366575
Why would you ever preorder from some shitty site when you can just buy it on release day and then play it.

Theyre not gonna run out of stock or some shit, what is the point
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>>138366657
game is out in 2 hours and 14 minutes if you use a VPN to disguise your location as New Zealand.
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>>138366246
You can buy unlimited upgrading materials at one point in the game really late. other then slabs. str weapons are just as good as dex weapons from what i've seen. From what i heard offensive miracles don't hit too hard. but im on the pre-release version because im on the xbox and supposedly they're getting buffed when the game actually comes out. there are weapon enchants for every casting specialty sorc,pyro,faith and some of them have multiple ones in their respective category. yes dark weapon is in DS3.
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>>138366706

So you have to git gud now instead of relying on laggy anal bead spam?

Or is magic officially hard mode now?
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>>138366795
wut
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>>138366856
its a meme you dip
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>>138366856
It's a meme, you sap licker
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Is the Ruin Sentinel set in ds3? I want my dedicated cavalry helm.
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>>138366758
>>138366820
Thank you both very much it helps a lot, thanks again.
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>tfw winning with fun weapons

no greater feel
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>>138366856
its a meme, you digdong slurper
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>>138366758

>knives are finally worth a damn

Noice
o
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What would be smart point allocation in DS3 if I want to focus mainly on dex weapons, but also use pyromancy as a side/supplementary thing?

If it scales with both int and faith, better to put a bit in each instead of a larger amount in one?
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>>138366856
It's a meme you gay horse
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>>138362616
daggers.
Parrying dagger/bandit knife.
Become the dude you want to be.
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>>138367028
Im glad to see the weapon I plan to use is viable as fuck but it looks a little silly having all those swords on you.
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>>138367079
Scaling-wise, it doesn't matter if you put a bit in each or just focus on one. But you'll have an easier time meeting requirements if you put some in each.
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>>138366758
If you go pyro and go 50 int and put points into faith. the damage is fucking ridiculous.
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>>138367028

>Farrons Memesword
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How much stat investment do I need for pyromancy to be decent, if it's not going to be my main character thing? (I want to build a str/Pyro guy, not a pure Pyro)
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>>138366851
i would just not bother using magic at all in PvP outside of utility spells, you have a 0% chance to win against any decent player

its for PvE only
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>>138366770
Because those shitty sites offer better discounts than the fucking 8% joke on Steam, and aren't run by Gabe, that fat faggot who tried to sell Skyrim mods.
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>>138367271
A lot. Just use some normal melee weapon until later on and respec.
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>>138366856
its a meme, you testie fondler
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>>138367237
fuck off aldritch
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What's the status on axes? Good tier? Meme tier?
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>>138366282
It's amazing how many kids there are here
First off, they didn't read that when they were buying them

It says, on all of those sites

>day of release
Not before

Sometimes you do get them early but that's rare
You do get them on the release day tho

Is it really that hard to wait a few more hours when you've waited for months already?

Impecients fucks

Also, it's not like the steam preload thing isn't a complete lie and a scam, since games always have to download more shit and then take years to reformat the preload files you've downloaded

It's literally better in some cases to delete the preload files and just download the full game

Idiots
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>>138366897
>>138366940
>>138367069
>>138367096

wait, is this not possible?

can someone who actually lives in New Zealand confirm if it's out in 2 hours or not
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>>138366856
Its a meme you chunt
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>>138367378
Great or Regular?
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>>138367349
>>138367096
>>138367069
>>138366940
>>138366897

so fkn epic.....
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>>138367028
What are those swords? I'm in love

Also what's this weird effect I keep seeing in clips (including yours) where the player appears transparent while rolling?
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this reminds me of that Wolfenstein stabbing gif
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do people really heal and use gestures in pvp?
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>>138367378
>axe
okay
>great axe
very okay
>black knight great axe
good
>demon greataxe
bad
>yhorm cleaver
great
>great machete
ok
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>>138367407
Its only 4pm in NZ
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>>138367407
its doesnt mate releases the same time everywhere
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>>138366246
luck is exactly what that is

twinkling and scales are always on crystal lizards. you can buy unlimited at the end of the game near dragon peak
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>>138367527
Its a Ring. Obscuring ring i think the name is. you go invisible when you roll. and those weapons are from the Dancer Boss. Dancer twinblades or some shit like that.
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>>138363853

I want to cosplay as Mildred and do low level pvp.
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>>138367464
fuck you retard i'll kick your ass
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>>138367378
I hope he had ear plugs
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>>138367429
Looking into regular, but if there's a good greataxe that'd be nice to know.
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Anyone have a clue what this buff does?
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>Just got my key from g2a

Fucking finally my stress is gone
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>>138367612
Nah that's the carthus milkring
Obscuring ring is the one that makes you invisible from a distance
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>>138367407
It works for some releases, this game however is on a global 1 time release
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>>138367587
How do you make your Steam show that?
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>>138366541
only way to get dark hand and moron blade
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>>138367587
Why is a Japanese game not available in Japan?
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>>138367407
The release date is the exact same, it's a worldwide release excluding the fact Jap consoles already got it. 19 hours, regardless of where you live.
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>>138357331
Justabet.jpg
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>>138367701
Ring of Sacrifice.
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>>138367692
Creightons stuff is in the game.
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>>138367732
http://www.enhancedsteam.com/
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>>138367556
in non-duel pvp the loser is usually whoever runs out of estus first or gets killed from full health to dead quickly so you bet your ass they do.

>>138367527
>>138367612
the ring gives +3 dex and that smokey roll effect that doesn't really do anything

Swords are Grave Warden Twinblades who have built in bleed and then have a bleed resin applied.
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>>138364236
>not wearing mix'n'match ruin sentinel and elephant sets
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>>138366758
wheres the ashes for throwing knives?
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>>138367692
Theyre pretty good. Butcher knife is probably one of my favorite weapons in the game. and yhorms greataxe is a good greataxe.
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>>138367584
>>138367587
>>138367730
>>138367759

Damnit. Well, gonna catch some Z's then.

Cya guys on the flipside, gonna be able to play right after I get outta class :D
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>>138367623
Sadly no sack, and to have the bra you'd need to wear the masters top which has rags hanging off your shoulders.
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>>138367802

But I don't have it on?
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>>138367842
Does it actually work on the player this time around?
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>>138366758
obscuring ring is a must for invasions
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>>138367726
Ah thanks. too many rings for me to remember in this shit. haha
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>>138364958
>cost of deluxe above discounted dksos3 is the same as the season pass cost anyway
>you know the season pass will be at a 20% discount when he first dlc is released
anyone who buys it is a cuckold.
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>>138367905
Grave Warden ashes in catacombs should be the one.
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>>138360621
I couldn't connect my DualShock 4 with InputMapper like I couldn't with DS2, so I just used a 360 one. I guess if you use a different mapper you can use it, but the icons are still the Xbox ones.
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>>138367913
what about the dual wield axe? That's the one that looked like it had the neatest moveset.
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>>138368115
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Who /Strength-Faith/ master race for 1st build
Can't wait to Regen it up anh help scrubs with co-op
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>>138367990
Dunno, pretty sure you have to do some quest line to make him spawn and i havent done it yet.
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>publisher is scamco
The games are always rushed and lots of shit is cut out of then to be sold as DLC for additional profits.

>publisher is sony
BB seems to have had a healthy game development process.

Don't get me wrong, I think sony should die off like a useless corporate blob that it is, in time, but the dynamic of scamco's negative influence on Hackizaki & Co. here is quite noticeable, or is it just me?
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>>138368209
The scaling is pretty shit on them. i haven't tried them though.
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>>138367232
Is that right? Wouldn't 50 points in FAI and some into INT be the same then?
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>clever rat's + morion blade + warding
>775 AR mirdan hammer in a game where max upgraded weapons with max scaling are generally 330
>80% damage reduction buff
>kill an old monk player in two hits

this game is so broken i don't even need cursed weapon

none of the three people that've invaded today have been able to dodge my mirdan hammer's 2hr2
they all get hit from 30 miles away
game has issues with netcode
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This look decent fashionable? I can't find much that goes well with the Antiquated Corset.
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>>138368301
Kill yourself
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>>138368409
I think they scale better from Int but they also scale from faith. haven't tried doing that though.
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>>138368442
not really, but it will do.
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>>138368442
Looks pretty shit anon
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>>138368442
LOOK OUT! THERES A RED BEHIND YOU
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>>138368085
hmm i got ashes in catacombs but only granted me poison and slow as fuckin shit bleed kukri
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>>138368464
Soon™
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>>138366758

>trio of fire boosting rings
>trio

I thought it was just the Great Swamp Ring and the lava one? Are you talking about Flame Clutch?
>>
>Oroboro says he's leaving soulbrandt

GOD DAMN I JUST HAD TO MISS THAT MOMENT THE OTHER DAY
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>>138368442
Not even a little bit.
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>>138368594
Fuck off peeve
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>>138368585
Flame Clutch,Great Swamp, Witches Ring.
>>
so the game is released in about 18 hours. so would FUCKING gamestop have it available at the same time or do i have to hope on some midnight release for the store
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>>138368301
Nah, you are not wrong, bamco has a fucking cash cow on their hands but they keep rushing the games development times for no reason. I don't have a PS4 but its clear that sony knew how to handle FROM much better. Well, eventually when the ps4 stops being a BB machine i might consider getting one.
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>>138368594
Any recordings of these whelps going batshit? It fills me with joy to know that puny shits like them are getting even less relevant.
>>
>>138368594
Is there a falling out between Peeve and Oroboro?
>>
>>138368606
>>138368521
>>138368516
I fucking knew it. I guess I just won't use the corset.
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>>138368675

Nice.
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>>138368594
heh no way?
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>>138368301
You're not wrong, Namco is ten kinds of retarded. Just look at this awful marketing.
>>
>>138368594
Only Souls e-celeb thats good is OnlyAfro

For that boipussy
>>
>>138368442
Change those gauntlets for some silver armor and unhollow and it might look passable, not great, but not awful.
>>
Huh, suddenly not able to login to DS3 servers. Anyone else getting that?
>>
>>138367527
Warden Twinblades, they have bleed on them.
Heres a pvp video featuring them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWMfpfYb03s
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>>138368837
>been out of the general for weeks
>come back to this meme
Can someone please explain?
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>>138368759
orobobobo is spineless and cant control his slag

even peeve is tired of her shit
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>>138368782
I thought it looked good
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>>138368932
He "lost a bet" and went some place in a schoolgirl costume. That included stockings.
As far as I know though he wouldn't want to be seen for some reason, but the shit I just said now is pretty much it.
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>>138368932
He loves to crossdress and have guys watch him pose
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>>138368836
Their marketing been pretty heavy this time around, some cool stuff came out of it

Like the dark souls movie trailer or the animation which was neat
>>
https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/14266567/Dark.Souls.III.Steam.Preload-Fisher

2 hours until crack?
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>>138368836
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>>138368993
we don't give a shit about soulbrandt bads
>>
>>138368993
Oroboro is a fucking weeb, are you surprised he can't reign in his bitch?
>>
>>138368442
It's decent if you're trying to look like Doc Brown.
>>
>>138369293
>company sells game related shits
>anon gets triggered
nice
>>
Have some OC /dsg/ if you wanna kill 10 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vjFdCAH6Rw

should be in 1080p now
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>>138369370
Don't you mean "Nice chest ahead"
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>>138369383
>DaS 2 pvp
Anon please
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>>138369370
the part that triggers me is the shitty design
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>>138369293
Game marketers are so fuckin stupid. They make all this super gay edgy clothing that nobody would ever be seen in in public, instead of making shirts like pic related which would probably sell like golden eggs
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>>138369383
All I've been able to enjoy doing in DaS2 recently is Drangleic Castle invasions or Undead Crypt. Katana bridge PvP is too boring
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>>138369492
they went full on meme with that sweater. all you had to do was just put the damn sunlight covenant symbol
>>
Iudex: C+
Vordt: C
Greatwood: B
Crystal sage: C
Deacons of the deep: C
The abyss watchers: A-
The Old demon King: B
High lord wolnir: B-
Yorhm: C+
Pontiff: A+
Aldritch: A
The Dancer: A+
The consumed king: A
Dragon Slayer: B
Champion Gundyr: B+
Lothric: A+
Nameless: A+
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>>138369492
The thing you posted is on the same level as the shit they're selling retard

As in, only a literal retard would wear any of it
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>>138369646
>champion gundyr
>B+
Fuck you, he at least deserves an A-
>>
>>138369646
>Champion B+
>Nameless/Lothric A+
Please
>>
>>138368930
Those seem to bleed pretty fast, it doesn't look like it even needs a bleed infusion, Can it be infused? I wonder how it would compare haveing regular ones for damage+bledd or full on bleed ones with a luck build.
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18 hours until release lads
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>>138369679
Nah. If they put stuff like this on a shirt, even people who have no idea what it is would buy it.
Instead they have clothes with all these weird logos and references that the gamers who play the game dont even understand
>>
>>138369465
lol I know, perfect timing right

>>138369552
I had a spattering of invasions in the ice DLC level but you gotta go where the action is you know. It's definitely generic but what you gonna do
>>
>>138369772
>>138369740

I'm big on design, setting and music. Namesless and lothric are flawless in that regard.
>>
>>138360713
Just tried it. A tiny bit better, almost unnoticeable; when up close, the objects look gorgeous. However, when the small details (branches of the big tree in the distance in the beginning, the grass in the beginning, facial details when the camera is not close, the lines of armor, the door right after Iudex) are some distance away, any swaying (moving either character or camera) causes them to shimmer/ripple. The lines on the door I mentioned look horrible when you move towards it/from it, but look great when you're directly in front of it.

I see all of this on two different monitors and also on a completely different PC/system and it's screen (a laptop). Is it just me being overly finicky? Because really, to ME this shit looks ten times worse than DS1 even without DSFix.
>>
>>138365258
Yhorm is a Giant- a proper giant, not just a soul-drunk human ala Vendrick, the lack of anusface is explained by either subspecies or some equivalent to hollowing- who was 'the descendant of an ancient conqueror, but was asked by the very people once subjugated to lead them, serving as both a weighty blade and a stone-hard shield.' This refers either to giant skeleman High Lord Wolnir of Carthus, who conquered the everloving shit out of a number of countries, destroyed their crowns to forge his own, and then tripped headlong into the Abyss, or to no one in particular. I'm inclined to the former.

He was kind, just, chivalrous, an ideal liege-lord, who 'risked everything and fought unflinchingly as a one-man vanguard.' Carthus/whatever realm Yhorm ruled had, beside no ruler to keep all of the unruly vassals in check, a rather severe Chaos problem. Yhorm's solution was to murder it. All of it. He did so nearly single handedly, save one man who was his sole companion, but Yhorm failed to protect him, and' forsook his shield,' before adding the left-hand notch to his machete. He put out the flame of Chaos himself, and conquered old Brume Tower, before going on to Link the Fire.

The problem was that inheriting Carthus meant inheriting its court, which, considering Yhorm's acquisition of accursed Brume Tower, was not at all unalike to that of the decadent orientophile Iron King. Which is to say, they were all undermining, scheming vermin.
>>
>>138369886
Sane people don't wear clothes with retarded shit on them
Only okay if you're a 4 year old
Grow up
>>
>>138370073
Forgot to mention, fully maxed settings, also tried the MSAA x8 in Nvidia CP. All monitors I've tested are TN, though.
>>
>>138370079
'Lonely Yhorm became a Lord of Cinder to put the Profaned Flame to rest, knowing full well that those who spoke of him as lord were quite insincere.'

After he became a Lord, his last thoughts were of all that he had lost for those wholly undeserving of one so self-sacrificing. He had given giantslaying arms to these doubters, ill wanting to be a tyrant- like his sire, perhaps- 'one to the humans that doubted him, and left the other to a dear friend before facing his fate as a Lord of Cinder.' His friend lost to the grave, and his court incompetent decadents, these were no match for the fire he had become a vessel for in his dying momenets. From the Profaned Flame description, 'The Profaned Capital was consumed by fire after Yhorm the Giant became a Lord of Cinder. The fire, born of the sky, is said to have incinerated naught but human flesh.'

When Yhorm rose at the bell's toll, much, much later, he returned to a tower burnt clean; the only survivors were a troupe of female pyromancer-ritualists wearing iron masks, who later served as jailers for Pontiff Sulyvahn of the Irithylls. As any true monarch, he took his Throne, reclining amongst countless worthless treasures and the flesh of his betrayers as an ashen-fleshed shadow of his former self, in mind and body.

tl;dr he's Gough 2.0, except the stresses of a bad CK2 run along with Linking the Fire made him more inclined to hideous embitterment, Old Testament displays of wrath, and a lot of crying for his pygmy husbando rather than the nuanced art of wood carving.
>>
>>138370073
Are you sure the game is running at the correct resolution?
>>
>>138369991
I just feel like it's more fun to invade the people progressing through Drangleic Castle and Undead Crypt. Especially since I do themed invasions there, they're active enough. I spent the last couple of days just invading as Throne Watcher or Velstadt, or Ornstein in DaS1
>>
>>138369646
Iudex: B
Vordt: C
Greatwood: D
Crystal sage: C+
Deacons of the deep: C
The abyss watchers: A
The Old demon King: C
High lord Wolnir: F
Yorhm: C
Pontiff: A-
Aldritch: D
The Dancer: B
The consumed king: C
Dragon Slayer: B-
Champion Gundyr: A+
Lothric: A+
Nameless: A-
Cinder: A
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>>138370073
Some AA is awful
Hmmm maybe it's just how the game is at it's core?

As in, sucks when it comes to AA?

That would really suck honestly, considering that it does look great

DS1 was a completely different engine if I recall and the AA with that one was perfection, it basically needed no adjustments at all

I guess the BB engine sucks for PC or whatever
>>
>he's unfortunately not in control of his stream anymore

this drama will sustain me till release
>>
>unlocks at 8 am
>9 am lecture
At least my lecturer is a qt 3.14 cougar I'd pound harder than any of the teenyboppers in my class
>>
>>138369552
red phantom belltower invasions with chameleon and six copies of acid mist are very fun
>>
>>138370325
Yep, 1920x1080, native to all of the tested screens.

>>138370386
I'll try capturing this shit in a moment
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>>138370452
I thought one had to be at least 18 to be on 4chan.
>>
>>138370127
naw nigga. You'd be suprised at the low standards every middle aged person sets for themselves.
These aren't even just neets either.
>>
can you buy rusted gold coins?
>>
>>138370635
>you can't be over 18 and at college
?
>>
>>138369646
>>138370357
>From are never going to have a good Huge boss.
Ancient Dragon had potential but it still just came down to foot slashing.
>>
>>138370673
Huge bosses are never good in any action game ever.

All the best fights are always small to mid sized humaniod enemies.
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this guy looks pretty comfy
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>>138370670
You don't even have to be a teen to be teen. Sometimes you just have to accept that suicide is the only way to go, famalam.
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Is Artys GS in DS3?
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>>138370452
>My lab starts an hour and a half after release

Same boat
>>
>>138370912
ye
>>
>>138370127
Maybe in your highschool people only wear whats trendy, but people buy ridiculous shit to wear at home all the time.
On top of that there are plenty of people who wear clothes with random cute shit on it all the time
>>
>>138370890
can i come back in 17.5 hours?
>>
>>138370912
not just one, but 3 flippy greatswords

there's vertical flippy greatsword (wolf GS)
horizontal flippy greatsword (farron GS)
and diagonal flippy curved greatsword (old wolf CS)
>>
>>138370835
>>
>>138370835
>EK helm goes with everything
It's been 3 goddamn games and this shit is still the most fashionable goddamned helm in existence
>>
>>138370949
>>138370127
I'm not germanspy and I only wear black, usually. Fuck your fashion sense, I like plain black, baggy clothes. I'm such a special snowflake.
>>
>>138370665
Yeh
>>
>>138369492
i would totally buy this. especially if it came in pastel pink to match the bricks
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>>138371140
>>138371140
>I only wear black
>>
>>138370935
>>138371041
thx. They just quality weapons? or require fai/int?
>>
anyone got their key from kinguin yet?

I'm gonna get a refund if I don't wake up and have my key.
>>
>>138371475
A lot of key websites (With the exception of like 2 apparently) aren't sending keys yet

If it gets to 5 hours till release and you haven't got a key yet I'd refund it.
>>
>>138370831
Dragon's Dogma
>>
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So it's pretty much impossible for people to try to get gank squads going at Irythill, right? I don't want to lose this nice duel area.
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>>138371018
No. Come back in 2.

>>138371395
Are you jealous?
>>
>>138371475
send a ticket and they told me i would get it in 2 more days
>>
>>138370452
i have a massive project due tomorrow

fuck me

I ordered from GMG so im probably not getting it anyways
>>
>>138371587
>climb boss
>attack weak point
>good
DD was fun, but it wasn't really designed with challenge in mind.

In games like DMC, Ninja Gaiden, etc. the best boss fights are always humanoid too.
>>
>>138371587
I recently ran that game for the first time, I don't know if I played it wrong or something but Griggs was a bitch and very annoying.
>>
>>138371125
the royal swordsman helm is extremely fashionable

im sad it didn't make it in, sallet helms are my favorite
>>
>>138370835
What chest is that?
>>
>>138371743
are you fucking serious? I preordered this shit on december fucking 30 of last year. if I don't have my key before I leave for work at 11 am tomorrow I'm fucking refunding that shit and whining like a bitch to their customer service.

that'll show em, right?
>>
What do you guys think the Meme-Meta level will be? I hope shitty souls e-celebs don't try to make it 120, thats gonna be too low for ds3, I'm probably gonna stick around 135-140.
>>
>Game unlocks in 18 hours
>Stayed away from /dsg/ and most news places because I want this to be my special first time
>But also don't want to not fully enjoy the experience by not knowing what to look for

Fuck. Are spears with the combat arts thing cool? Should I just focus on dex if I want to use a spear?
>>
>>138371960
you deserve it for buying from kinguin senpai
>>
>>138371125

It doesn't go well with the Silver Knight set

Fuck those different shades of silver
>>
>>138371971
>Too low
What
>>
>>138371971
most folks are gonna be at 120-125, some folks will stick at around 100 and some folks will wanna go to 150.

135-140 is nonstandard so I don't think it'll catch favor, but that's definitely a more flexible meta.
>>
>>138371994
Kaathe is the final boss.
>>
>>138371971
>wanting to go higher than the already high 120

Wew lad
>>
>>138371971
>thats gonna be too low for ds3
>120

>>>>>REDDIT
>>
>>138371743
>2 days
Is 2 days the 2 hours of dark souls 3?
>>
>>138372059
50 shades of silver tipped great arrows of Anor Londo: the novel: the game.
>>
>>138372164
>>138372164
>>138372164
New thread
>>
>>138371994
i don't think any of the spears are remotely good with the exception of the Tornado Spear thing and Nameless King's Spear-Sword.

i mean compared to other weapons, i'm sure they'll get you through PvE without too much hassle.
>>
>>138371994
weapon arts varies. most have the lance charge.

partizan has a sweep
>>
>>138372005
I was mad at from for the shithole that was das2 and not giving us bloodborne.

if 3 is good then I will buy the season pass on steam.
>>
>>138372131
>>138372091
>>138372076
>>138371971
>>138372072

I only played BB pvp and a tiny bit of random DS2 pvp, no DS1.
But having to grind for more than a short amount of time for levels is fucking stupid.

Assuming you dont lose a shit ton of souls im guessing you can get to a solid 80-100 after one NG playthrough.
>>
>>138372072
>>138372076
>>138372091
>>138372131
Dark souls 1 had 8 stats to level and resistence was useless so it was pretty much 7.
Dark souls 3 has 9 stats and none of em are completely usless. equip load and stamina are broken up again and theres focus points to consider as well, and extra 15 levels isn't much more
>>
>>138368993
>Peeve gets blown the fuck out by a girl and leaves

What am I supposed to take from this?
>>
for any au or nz bros has your ds3 order from mightyape been shipped yet?
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so souls games always have important info that they never tell you anywhere

what do i need to know about DS3 to not build a retarded character?
>>
>>138372503
Start Knight. Don't level Luck. Don't bother leveling Vit too much unless you really need it for your build.
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>>138367028
>>
>>138366019
>$36
Where?
>>
>>138367802
>>138367802

That reminds me, is the ring of sacrifice repairable again? There is no worse feeling to kill someone in DS2 only to hear the sound of their insurance ring break.
>>
>>138373843
>Unlike Dark Souls II, the ring completely breaks upon death, there is no way to repair it, just like in the original Dark Souls.
>>
>>138371472
no fai/int reqs
farron greatsword is D/B
wolf knight greatsword is C/D? at min upgrade, probably B/D
>>
>All these people stressing about their third party keys
OR

OR

MAYBE

You pay the extra $2 and get it on Steam for peace of mind.
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