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TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding. The game is out everywhere!
>Can I play the game now?
International servers are now open for Early Access if you have a Founders Pack, and open for F2P users on April 28th. You can also play on the Korean Servers now if you have a verified Nexon Korea account, which requires a Korean Mobile Phone number.

>Early Access Info:
Server Schedule: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/founders-server-exclusive-access-now-purchasable-on-steam/151534
Early Access FAQ #1: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/frequently-asked-questions-regarding-the-latest-announcement/145895
Early Access FAQ #2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/updated-faq-on-the-latest-announcement/153003

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS - Server : Klaipeda (Early Access with purchase of Founder Pack, April 28th for F2P users)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
- kTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X50XoEFxK4q10GmO9gU7izzUlw_C72Qr1fnRC6ou2wE/edit
- iTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ufD39PDP-VpU9NGokyNgWx_YHxkTo4bFHTaJWl-O4GE/edit
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does anyone know if linker's umbilical cord shares all max stats across members?

so you can have 400 of each stat with a linker?? sounds ultra broke...
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nth for Pyroqt
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>>138278107
NAME THOSE PEOPLE
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>>138278213
No
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>>138278213
iCBT2fags
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so how exactly does squire repair shop work?

I bought 1400 repair kits and priced my shop at 200 silver per repair kit. so i was expecting to make around 280k off those 1400 repair kits, but I didn't, I only ended up with 140k and 0 repair kits remaining. So I am a little confused at how this shop works or what determines how many repair kits are needed.

Any info on this matter is greatly appreciated.
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I'm at level 80, now what? there doesn't seem like anything to do at 80, everywhere is either too low or high leveled, or just plain boring to explore.
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>"ToS F2P?Scratch that!Make it P2P!"
https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/4e4u6z/tos_should_not_be_f2p/
LOL
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who /doingeveryzone/ here?
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who /demonprisoncomfygrind/ here?
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>>138278336
>I can't be bothered exploring to find quests for cards to level up
Reroll.
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>>138278521
me and every map feels de same, fuck me right?

ded game
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>elite sponges with CC immunity that have harugal speed
I don't even have pepe smug enough for this.
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>>138278308
they added something like a 50% tax to squire after icbt2
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Dog girls
Best girls
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who /stillnomemedagger/ here?

0/24 so far
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>>138278602
is that on all my shops or just repair?

that 50% tax is bs
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Who /f2pwaitingwarmly/ here
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>>138278670
not sure, but i think all

thanks imc
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>>138278641
No idea how many runs it's been by now but I've gotten jack shit

I don't even need it anymore but I will still try
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>>138278674
*raises hand
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>Cryo3
>already starting to have a hard time killing stuff
>about to take Chrono
Am I going to have to say goodbye to the life of solo play soon?
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>>138278705
wow imc is just aids. they really want no fun allowed when it comes to a player driven economy / trading and such.

thanks for the info.
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>>138278641
I actually got 2 mil just grinding for that stupid material, 3/24.
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>>138278674
game will be dead before you can play kek
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>>138278641
0/idontknowanymore
i've been doing it with two different characters
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>>138278774
Good, it'll just be me and my friends
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>>138278762
>wiz-cryoC3?
>Suffering unless you're in a party.
That build is too harsh for someone making their first character in the game.
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Reminder to spend your free tps
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>>138278903
and the horde of bots
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Guy who's thinking on spear shield build back, would this be useful at all?
Regarding stats keep str above co by 20 or 30?
>STR swordman class
I know but I want to try something different

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11347477.153555.152535.1a3a4a.2f3f5a65
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>>138278907
I actually didn't have any problems till I was in the late cryo3 stages since I seem to be facing a whole lot of Ice resistant enemies at this point.
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Should I suffer more and go for Pelt 3?
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What should I do
Sword>3highlander>2cata>1dragoon
Or
Sword>3highlander>1corsair>2fencer

(Im already c3 highlander)
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>>138279036
no, go for Rodelero

>>138279182
Why not Doppel?
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Which is better after hop2>cor2? Dragoon,Cor3 or Doppel?
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>>138279161
anon what are you doing
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threadly reminder not to fall for memes
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>>138279161
>>138279232
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>>138279106
>have personal experience playing cryos
>it will not get better desu

That build is good but you will suffer. Although we get more exp cards in our version so at least it will not be that painful anymore but still depends what your next class is.
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>>138278806
Going to do the same. Left my main at level 100, all he does is run that dungeon 3 times. Leveling 2 other characters, one at 75 and one at 61 now. Going to get those 2 to 90 so I can run the dungeon 9 times a day.

It seems that the RMT bots are willing to pay almost any price for the dagger so in the long run it should pay off.
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>>138279232
But then I can't go fast enough
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>>138279302
About to hit wi3 ele1

I'm the embodiment of memes already
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Has anyone successfully gotten the yellow-eyed flower petal? I've been camping the spot for close to 10 hours and nothing.
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>>138279161
Go for pelt3 into squire3
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>>138279182
why do people go high3 into fencer?
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>>138279351
Should've picked cata at r4 for maximum sanic then
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>>138279309
It's chrono, mentioned in an earlier post.

Does that mean that things are never getting better for me
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How valuable is Diev's Carve to a STR build?
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>>138279182
Why would you even go for corsair if you're not going circle2?
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>>138279441
For the costume, of course.
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When going spears is 2H spear or 1H spear+shield better for pve/pvp?
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>>138279441
rope for pvp
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>>138279437
No reason not to get it.
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>>138279519
Fucking poser, you're not a true pirate gtfo
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s-senpais... new to game here how should i add my Quarrel shooter skills? dont hurt mee...
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Hello senpai, there's 22 minutes left to complete the Errand Man hidden quest and the motherfucker wouldn't talk to me. I /s talked him the Dropped Pappers code and nothing. How to trigger senpai?
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>>138279369
Dont give up stubbs.
or do and see if that shit is bugged.
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>>138279598
Ask reddit you thumbnail saving faggot
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>>138279386
I thought skull swing would be awesome. And it is.
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I'm wiz3->cryo already, idk if going psycho-rune-warlock or cryo2-rune-warlock
or cryo3-rune
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Just did Siaulilia for the first time

How do people do that endboss chain fight without healers?
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>>138279398
That's exactly what I'm doing in my build™
I find a good in the skills piercing but I don't know If I could improve something about that current skill set or if this could actually be viable for PVP/PVE I'm about to start playing at Klaiklai
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>>138279665
KYAAAA
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>>138279369
It's broken as far as I know.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/does-yellow-eyed-flower-petal-exist/168035/5
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Archers in this game are the scum of the earth. Filthy no-good kill-stealing thieves. Every time I see one pass by my eye twitches and my whole body begins to shake and tremble in a furious rage.
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>>138279692
evade attacks. kite if needed. dont get hit much. kill them.
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>>138279528
answer me fampai
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>>138279406
Sadly yes. You rolled into a good support/utility/party build.
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>>138279719
>tfw I spam barrage and other aoe ks skills to piss off people

simply marvelous.
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Trapped in Mage Tower 3F, send help!
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How do I get to Hollow Thorn Forest?
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>>138279692
Gets quite easy once you hit higher levels and people know what they are doing
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>>138279716

>STAFF_Ethan

>Hello everyone,

>Apologies for the late response and thank you all for the information.
>As you may well be aware, hidden classes are well, supposed to be hard to get. I've done some asking around and it is supposed to be extremely hard to find and has random respawn times. All I can offer at this time is 'Good hunting'. :slight_smile:

sounds not broken
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>a bunch of sluts took your like virginity while waiting for a dungeon
nooooooooooooooooooo I didn't expect it to be this way...
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Rogue or fletcher? going for an semi-aoe + solo bossing.
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>>138279862
west of 130 dungeon, in forest of prayer
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>>138279801
Tfw bigger mementalist bully here, i just ks archers because i know they are shit later on, they get so mad they can't ks anymore kek
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>>138279907
Oh, didn't read it all the way through. Happy grinding then and may the rng be in your favor.

>>138279938
o-ok.
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>>138279870
>>138279692
>you get no con partymates
>you can't just stand there anymore
>boss hits harder
>2-3 of your party die instantly

been this way for 10 missions. For every 1 good player, you get 4 shitty ones.

>>138279692
Expect facepalming in your future
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>>138279938

>implying anyone makes it that far
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is QS3>Wugu3 a meme build? Or its actually viable
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>>138279692
By realizing that dodging is more important than DPS. Everything the bear and mole do is very blatantly telegraphed and easy to get out of if you are willing to drop DPS and just run away for a second. Most "difficult" part is watching out for the shadows of the spikes the mole rains down.
The tree can just be a fucking cunt sometimes. Try to always be directly behind him so the apples don't combo you, there isn't really a trick to it as far as I know, you just get lucky.
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>Found a really easy to solo party quest
>Still got the 5 quests per day limit
I just want my blue hair
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>>138279907
I hope its at least in the same fucking area.
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Is the Owl Burial Grounds hair quest totally random? The NPC isn't there with my character at level 100.
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>>138279907
chaplain quest ez as fuck


JUST
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Anyone remember in which map Tiny respawns? I only remember not being on orsha side.
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>>138279782
I guess I have to find a leveling buddy
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>>138280069
Some guy that posted in the topic apparently got it (hugo-something), but I'm skeptical. He said that the flower spawns in the same spot and that he thinks the spawn depends on people not camping the flower. Sounds like BS.
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>>138280081
It should always be up, are you sure you aren't at the wrong place?
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These gold spammers are fucking annoying
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3133366f.15244551.1f2f3341516575.2a4a5575.15243145

How shits this senpai? Idea is to have quarrel/wugu for single dps/small aoe and cannoneer for larger aoe later on. With going fullretard str.
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>>138279625
5minutes left, still no trigger, help familia.
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>>138280191
>spawn depends on people not camping the flower
Sounds like he's got a wily plan to me

Well i guess i'll be trying even harder for that fucking thing soon. best of luck stubb.
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>hit 40
>put my zalia pants on with 300 fucking bonus sp

good bye mana problems
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>>138280236
Yep. I'm partied with someone taking the quest. He can see it and I can't.
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>>138280354
you need to finish all the quests on that map
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threadly reminder to have fun
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>>138280420
you too senpai, have lots of fun
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>>138280457
thanks cutie
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which one?
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>>138280378
Not True
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>>138280308
Sounds good
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>>138280420
>Just got Wiz3
I'm having fun.
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>>138280420
FUCK YOU! I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!
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>>138279249
>>138279303
>>138279372
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>>138280353
>Zalia
>not Protas
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>>138280601
Absolute madman.
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>>138280572
Calm down, Zack de la Rocha
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>>138280540
This one

https://tos.neet.tv/items/254108
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>>138280665
but that's a 2handed spear and level 270, senpai
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Tell me about Bokors. Why are they never in instance dungeons? Have any of you ever partied with one? What problems/boons do their zombies bring?
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>>138280664
see >>138280572
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I'm waking up
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Are vubbe fighter gloves really good or something?
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Errand Man is gone, thanks, useless faggots.
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>>138279928
Thanks. Is the exp good? Or any decent drops?
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>>138280630
>not going for Evasion
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>>138280798
It's long as hell and I hate it
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>>138280761
Nice to know i hope you have an amazing day
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>>138279692
>>138280029
Yup, if you ever played monster hunter before, receiving a hit to deal a hit is NEVER worth it. Try not to stand directly in front of it and learn its attack patterns and hit it while its on cooldown. That said, how the fuck do I dodge the apple throwing that shit is BS.

Look at this interface and tell me its not ToS!
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>>138280736
I have only seen 3 bokors ever.
>Have any of you ever partied with one
there are not a party class
>What problems/boons do their zombies bring?
No problems, just useless in dungeons
>Why are they never in instance dungeons?
low population/rolls likely
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>>138280736
>What problems/boons do their zombies bring?
>Problems
Motherfuckers steal all the heal squares, even when you solo.
>Boons
None that I can think of instanced, maybe the same as solo in that they draw a bit of aggro so less real people getting fucked up.
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>>138280572
AM's a big guy.
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>>138280029
>there isn't really a trick to it as far as I know,
Keep moving. If you stand still in the same spot the apples will hit you
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>The Field Boss will appear in awhile
What the hell is this
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>>138280742
どうすんだい?!
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Is there any way to get a skill reset potion besides the cash shop?

I heard there is a quest you can do one time per character to get one for free but don't know if that was true or where such a thing would be.
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I don't suppose any of you know if Meleeches still drop Dratt Two-Handed Swords? I've gotten 3 Exp cards, 2 golden anvils and 6 snake bow recipes of these fuckers but no sword.
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>>138280742
Which game?
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>>138281030
良い
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>>138280736
I only got one grief with Bokors, their zombies eat my heal tiles. It(s really annoying and should be fixed since even pets don't eat them
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>>138281170
Poschengband
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So can a non token player trade with a token player?
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>>138281138
They do, i got one today.
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>>138281293
It's just as bad as a Bokor trying to heal yourself and BAM, zombies eat them all if you don't run away first.
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>>138281116
And yeah I do have my $10 founder pack TP still, but I'll feel like a jackass if I spend it on this and then realize I could have gotten one for free. I really wanted to save that starting TP until I really really need it
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>>138281030
そうだ
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>>138281334
Thanks friend. Also, fuck you.
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>>138279692
/Siaulilia guide/

First boss = if you're range, your only problem is his rolling skills. Just don't be directyl in front of him. If you're melee, run away as fast as possible if he aoe. Don't just spam skills. Wait 0.2 to 1s so you can react quickly

Mole = spikes is the only problem. They have a shadow where they will land. They will land in random places and/or where you and your partymates are standing before and during his spiking animation

Poata = hardest. His aoe is huge.If you're non-tank just be behind him. Don't attack unless you're confident enough not to be damaged

Tree = don't be in front of him, move from his side to avoid that front straight gust skill. his aoe(green thing) and apples are easy to avoid. Just don't get that near(already clipping inside tree) even if you're a melee. If you get hit by all the apples, then that is instant death.

2 boss part of quest tip = Ask one of your partymate if they can lure paota away from the mole. Damage the mole until he only has a sliver of health BUT DON'T KILL HIM. Ask that paota lurer to kite mole and the rest switch to Paota. damage him until he dies, then switch back to mole which is easy to kill because of his health. Now you can concentrate on killing the tree alone.
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>>138281030
あなたをファック!あなたが私に教えて何私はしないだろう
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>>138280186
Im 115 cryo3 going chrono3 and levelling alone. For the first time i couldn t do a quest. (Kill mobs/in x time) its suffering.
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>>138281319
Good question. I would also like to know this.
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>>138280869
for (You)
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Is it worth crafting the Vubbe Fighter Gloves at lv 130?
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>>138279759
>>138279870
>>138280010
>>138280029
>>138280853
>>138281510
This was my party, swordmen don't know how to dodge. The high level compared to the rest didn't help either I guess. Did it two more times after with lower level people, and it went a lot easier
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>>138281635

yes capy
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>>138281592
Which one ? I'm a lvl 117 cryo, if you need any help
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If I'm going cryo3 -> sorc3 is it better to go ice pike 10 or ice pike 15?
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Is there like a warning or something when a world boss spawns in your map?
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>>138281592
Was it for the pink hair?
An anon's suggestion earlier to get quests across the map and use the return to get easy access to those areas really helped me for that one.
The quest with the random high archer spawns in the next map was hell though.
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So Lethargy gets a +100% striking trait.
What classes even use striking damage?

I've just always kept it up with melee in the party but do swords and pikes even count as striking? I know fuck all about melee
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Reminder that dungeons are full of batshit crazy.
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>>138281609
>>138281319
no

>>138281682
ahh yes. (a lot) higher lvl bosses do more dmg and give less exp. +8 isnt so bad
sucks to get partied with 10+ or 15+
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>>138281787
see >>138281003
Thats the warning.
But don't rely too much on it, it isn't really accurate
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I did it guys
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>>138281796
Yes that quest where u have to burn their arrows. Im snowrolling on cd but nothing.
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>>138279692
Kill the boss one by one.

What I normally do without healer is:
>taunt poata and keep him in previous room.
>kill glass mole.
>run back to previous room and kill poata.
>run back to end room and kill the fucking tree.

Also just got done with a mission run
>boss is 9 levels above me
>I still carry hard and deal more damage than 2 highbarbs in my party
>one guy is the highest level in the party, has 14k hp compared to my 10k
>don't even toggle my provoke attribute, no swashbuckle
>he said to stop moving the boss, saying they can't do damage (in fact it's only just him being shit)
>all I do is literally attack and jump in a circle around the boss and spend my CDs
>I said why can't he just do the same as I'm doing
>he said to stand still and use my block
>I said no and he called me the worst tank he ever met
>not even a tank, just a guy with Peltasta c1
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Do all classes have some build they can solo with atleast until close to the end? Was going to avoid it after being told how disappointing it was compared to RO along with the server issues. But frankly I'm bore out of my mind.
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>>138281841
I checked the forums, and they said something about a quest circle showing up if the boss spawns while you're on the map. Does this still happen?
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>>138281841
it is very accurate
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>>138281906
I got lucky for that quest
I saw a passing player and tossed him a party invite
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>>138281814
and sjw fags will get offended if called out
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>>138281841
No, when it says "world boss has appeared", it's legit and go notify your friends.
"Soon" is a feature they didn't fix after removing random respawn periods. It shows at random time even though bosses respawn at set time.
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>>138281865

Are these like best in slot or something?
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>>138281807
There's Strike, Pierce, and Slash. Swordsman gets access to all three throughout its ranks; Peltasta and Cataphract have a lot of Strike, Hoplite and Dragoon focus on Pierce, etc. Cleric is pretty much all Strike. They're basically elemental damage types for physical attacks.
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Just turned Hoplite and bought the best spear I could find on the market with the money I had (Assegai or something). Why is Hoplite so OP bros?
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>>138282035
pretty much, 2 AoE attack ratio is as good as it gets for gloves
only alternative is roxona, which is a much highler level and only gives 1 AoE attack ratio, and doesn't give STR
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>>138281865
...That increases AoE attack ratio by TWO?

SHEEIT.
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>>138281906
They just stopped spamming for me a few waves after I got the 10th arrow
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Capybara will never sit in my face, why live?

So im never going to use necro or play the card game, should i sell every card?
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>>138282025
>"Soon" is a feature they didn't fix after removing random respawn periods. It shows at random time even though bosses respawn at set time.
So, I'm wasting time hanging around in this map after seeing that?
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>>138281865
Did you farm it? Does drop rate of Vubbe Fighter Blood go down because of LVL difference?
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>sunflower staff

Where is this recipe?
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>>138282194
>drop rate decreases when you outlevel the mob
this meme needs to die
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>>138281814
No one says anything at all in my dungeon runs. Its probably for the better.
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>>138282170
Yes you are.
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>>138280569
Wiz2 here, what attri's have you been investing in? should i do it? or just gun straight for wiz3?
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>Decide to level a new character
>Get to Tenet Garden
>Everyone else is a teleporting bot that hit everything on the screen with a single attack

Jesus fuck, and here I thought the boring cleric bots at 100+ were a problem
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>>138282242
So it doesn't?
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Day 5 of waiting for a response to my ticket about my team name being reset when I did not request it to be reset.

Kill me.
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>>138282252
If you went past Wiz1 at all, you are going to Wiz3. All that matters is Magic Missile, Quick Cast, and their attributes. Sleep is okay too I guess.
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>>138282262
Play on Fedimian. I've tried playing on Klaipeda but got really frustrated with so many bots. There are literally no bots on Fedimian. I grinded Tenet Garden just yesterday on that one good spot with the Seedmias and Panto Archers and it was great. Grinded for like 2 hours up to LVL 40 or so.

There's a server transfer coming in May so you can transfer your Fedimian character to Klaipeda.
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So a token guy and a non token guy can trade? also i have enough for a token at lvl 80, why should that stop a boT?

seriously imc has to lessen with the jewsih attitude
>>
>mastema 5

J
U
S
T
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>>138282385
>There's a server transfer coming in May
Is there like an official source with details about this
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>>138282385
Playing on Orsha at the moment as an EU plater, but yeah defo jumping to Fedimian. I don't mind BR's even if they're annouing as fuck, but the bots + BRs is too much
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>>138282373
sleep is amazing desu
>>
I started playing this game expecting something similiar to RO but what i got was much better.
Still a bit sour though about the restrictions and munnigrab of certain items or functions.
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>>138282397
>So a token guy and a non token guy can trade?
no

>also i have enough for a token at lvl 80
can not trade silver. market only. 48H RL wait time to get cash after selling items in market
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>>138282169
You can take one as a pet and put it on your face
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I advanced to Wugushi not long ago and I see there's a card slot
I think I have to put an Insect type in there but I don't have any, is it possible to farm one? And what does the card actually do?
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>>138282490
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/temporary-eu-server-in-preparation/157179

Oh god I looked it up and it's false. There's only going to be transfer from Klaipeda/Orsha TO Fedimian, not backwards. DON'T PLAY ON FEDIMIAN
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holy shit silver is distributed by dps

WHAT THE FUCK? i serously can't even, how can you fuck up that hard
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>>138282732
Silver is equivalent to drops in this game. Set it to round robin and it will be somewhat even
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>>138282732
Source?
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>>138282732
git gud
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Do pets share the same exp penalties as players in regards to monster level? Or can you drag them to a high level zone for speed leveling?
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>>138282856
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/party-loot-distribution-broken/179800/2
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>>138282559
CUTE
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115 dungeon any good for xp? or should i just get more meme dagger tries in
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When should I be looking to replace my vubbe gloves?
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>>138283284
never
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>>138283284
280
Maybe
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>>138283284
Not until you get lolopanther, so never, really. AoE Attack Ratio is too important.
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>>138283457

What does it even do? Damage wise I mean
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>suddenly quest gives a level 4 key
>have never gotten a level 3 key
wait what did I miss something somewhere
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>>138283552
you hit more targets
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What the fuck is up with these teleporting bots
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>>138283417
>>138283452
he can replace if he is questing unless he has a method to lure mobs that is which would let him benefit from aoe or is an archer

he can use an alternative
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>>138283753

Working as intended
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>>138283753

just ran into one in ashaq
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Hello
Where is the 115 dungeon?
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>>138283881
outside mage tower
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Who's ready for some talt?
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Is Oracle and PD redundant for minigame?
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>>138283926
It says 190
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>>138283961
look left you invalid
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>>138283942
Good luck, anon.
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I bought a token just now and now I'm under 300k silver. Where do you guys make money at 110?
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>>138283942
And we're done, 8 talts, 1 card.
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Top laffo. There's a lua function called NICO_CHAT which takes a string as argument and makes it scroll like an NND comment.
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>>138284132
>didn't reroll each twice for 27 chances at arde
your loss
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>Lord "My only mechanics are knockback and mob spamming" Zaura
wow what a fun and engaging boss fight
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>>138284189
may as well straight buy one at that point
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>>138284189
My boss rush character doesnt have enough silver yet.

Thanks to IMC not letting me transfer through team storage.
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>>138284261
>buying an arde
>when you could just get one
spend money to make money
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>>138282373
Alright thought so, thanks anon.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Ll0sVS82o

This is fucking amazing.
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I don't care about GvG 2 fps bullshit, where can I go casual mode 4v4 or 2v2 PvP arena like in kToS? I can't find it.
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>>138284303
>bought an arde for 600k
>sold it for 1.2m
>went to solo a dungeon
>Got an arde on the 3rd try
I think I used up all of my luck at this point.
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>>138284251
He can bit a of a pain in the ass. Don't let him intimidate you though. Learn his tells. You can run behind him easily to avoid most of his attacks.

Take lots and lots of potions. Kill his minions as they spawn and don't stop till they are all dead.
Once he is by himself you've got in the bag pretty much.
This is the long safe way to do it. Accept the fact you're going to get smacked around at least once. Just heal and tough it out. If it gets too grim, log out.

I'm sure other people in this thread/characters will tell you/say
>"LOL DUDE BRO SO EASY 2 SHOTTED HIM WHILE AFK LMAOMOTP GID GUD SCRUB" Ignore these faggots.

You also have to fight him twice.
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So how is the early access right now, is it worth dropping $10?
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/g0xehud74m/

Please judge my build. I'm sure there are still improvements to be made.

Proof it's me at the bottom.
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>>138284758
It's worth it in my opinion, but the longer you wait the less 'worth it' it becomes, obviously.

Been really enjoying this game.
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>>138284758
yes, seeing as you are basically paying for cashshop currency at a discount
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>>138284638
Thanks for the help brotato. I didn't actually have difficulty with him, it's just that I spent most of the fight bouncing off walls and getting my attacks interrupted.
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>>138284251
>>138284638
ORRRRR

get a cafrisun set
get a buff from pardoners

and just right click him down to zero with no effort
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>>138284758
Best shit that come out of the mmo genre's asshole in a long time.
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>>138284864
>interacting with players

Get the fuck away from me normie scum.
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>>138282837
But round robin doesn't work either.
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What's the point of making a money making class if you can't transfer cash
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>>138284908
>interacting an afk person who set up shop
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>trying to farm my last melinas staff
>got a Banshee Hood

What the fuck is this, seems RARE
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Is party finder broken?
It lights up after a while but then the timer resets.
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why is cafrisun set so gud /tosg/?
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>>138285168
its fine.
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>>138285169
it adds an extra TICK of damage

so when you swing you deal your weapon damage 1st tick

then 2nd tick of 28 earth dmage or somesht

Priests can abuse that with arde dagger and their blessing buff + holy buff that gives them ANOTHER tick of swing damage

basically making them hit 3 times with their normal attack for HUGE damage with zero effort

so Arde dagger for priest
does Fire damage 3 Times each hit
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>necroventer card
>talt
>talt
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How many chars/pets can you have exactly?
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>>138285552
4 total. Extra slots are 33TP per
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Whats a good all around farming class setup? Do I have alternatives outside of archer? I want hopefully the following.

>Faster movement
>More skills or lower cooldowns
>Mostly single target focused but maybe some AoE options
>Bonus: Good outfit
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I am getting cuter every single day
How exactly a lv 110 World Boss drop in silver? I am sure it repaid me a full 300k Vubbe Blood
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Do you guys need more Templars? Do you even have a chart for classes/persons yet?
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>>138285597

Where do you buy extra slots from? I haven't seen them being sold anywhere.
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Wait a minute. This isn't talt.
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I plan on doing Swd1>Pelt2>Rod>Squire2>Templar.
Is this good?
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If i'm going full dex archer should I go for gems that boost my damage at the expense of accuracy and evasion because I'll be pretty much constantly maxed on those anyway due to dex?
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What skills can Pardoner craft?
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>>138285867
Just create a new character it'll prompt you to.
Already bought 3 slots
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>>138286051
https://tos.neet.tv/skills?simony=1&f=1

Also, they can only sell Sacrament, Aspersion and Blessing through Spell Shop.
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Alright since you meme loving fucks like theorycrafting so much lets try this. Lets assume you are still playing in like a year and its Rank 10 time. Lets just assume we don't know any new classes being added though. What would your setup look like? Assume that the current Rank 7 ones we do have do have higher circles.
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>>138285695
corsair
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>>138286032
you should kill yourself
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>>138285912
literally worse than talt
>3k on market
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anyone else getting loads of discons?
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>>138286142
So I can't sell Daino and other shit?
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>>138286146
Pelta 3 Squire 3 Templar 3 grand comfy guildmaster
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>>138286239
>Templar 3

Nice
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>>138285597
I actually meant with the extra slots you buy
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>>138286238
You can, did you check the link?

Those skills listed there are what you can craft into scrolls with Simony. You then sell these scrolls on the market.

Spell Shop is only for those three Priest skills.
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>>138286146

Cryo3/Runecaster/Thaum3/Chrono2
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>>138286301
Anything that doesn't have a golden outline has multiple circles. There will be no exception for it.
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>tfw not even hop3 yet
why aren't there any exp reset for job exp
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>>138285762
>Angel Wings
Which world boss spawn i have to camp?
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>>138286416
I don't get it, so spell shop is an entirely diferent mechanic, you can get that skill and sell priest buff even though you're not a priest yourself?
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>>138286443

why not chrono 3 thauma 2? thauma 3 is meh, 2 already give you reversi and +500 atk/matk, chrono 3 brings pass and shit.
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>>138286487

There is. It's at the beginning of every new rank.
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Is it too late to catch up? I kind of want to join finally with my full tank!
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>>138286146

>Q3. How many class ranks are released in OBT?
>A3. The original plan was to release 10 + 1 ranks, but we are rethinking the rank mechanic. There might be 8 ranks in total with 20 hidden classes, but nothing is definite.

Rank 10 might never even be a thing you know? That was the original plan but since then shit has changed.
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>>138286487
resets every time you advance you twat
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>>138286556

Yeah true, thought big head skill was good. Seems I'm wrong. Could make people giants mroe often that way.
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>>138286604
Oh dang. That ruins my plan if so. If they add Templar 2 then I wont be able to get Squire 3 and be an even more useless shit..
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>>138286619
>>138286560
i am too weak for this level of grind

>you don't even have to grind to level up
too weak for this levelling process
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>>138286668

big head is not that bad, but not worth the extra circle, it is still good in a full int nuker party.
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*jewing intensifies*
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>>138286723
>hoplite
>too weak

just kill yourself then
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>>138286731

Yeah in comparison to pass/backmasking/more haste I see it not being worthwhile. Thanks anon from future me.
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>>138286556

Thauma 2 is the mediocre rank of Thaumaturge actually.

It gives you 45 more damage and Reversi which is only good in PVP (and in PVE is bugged and can get you and your party killed very easily).

Swell Right Arm is honestly the worst of the Swell skills. It doesn't effect most people, and is only good for buffing Arde wielding wizards or damage dealing Clerics (and Corsairs, but fuck them) because no one else makes use of the bonuses it provides.
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>>138286757
REPORTED
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How does the Plague Doctor Incineration skill work? Does it incinerate the enemy as long as they have a debuff active? So it can potentially burn forever if we just keep debuffing his ass?
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>>138284251
my hoplite spear lunge + stabbing cookie cutter strat work shit against this boss

took like 10 min+ and bunch of exp cards on 1st try and seriously thinking if going 1h build is a good idea
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>>138285867
After all your slots are full it tells you to buy a slot if you make a new chara
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>>138287138
The burn duration bonus increases based on the count of debuffs on the target at the time you used Incinerate.
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>>138286757
You market jews always amaze me. I feel like some people are just hardwired with an innate sense of jewery that tends to pay out like this.
>>
Hello everyone i'm retarded, how do i check my ping?
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>>138287241
/getping
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>>138286757
the fuck do you do all day
>>
>>138286494
Kubas
Crystal Mine Lot2 2f
>>
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/jy8l1tq5m4/

Can I get the job done with this building up and into Alchemist? I kind of didnt want to be forced to rely entirely on parties.
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>>138287241
//ping in normal chat
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Does Mission party finder get people in a level range to you or random? So you could end up in a group with people +30 levels above/below?
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>>138286757
teach me your ways senpai
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>>138287283
:c liar i hope you choke and die

>>138287434
Thank you
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>>138287441

Mission finder finds them roughly in your level range. But the longer you're searching, the larger the level range becomes.

It's best to stop at 5 minutes and requeue (that is when the level range increases). Main reason is because if someone is like 15 levels above you, the bosses are 15 levels above you, so not only do you do less damage and they 1 shot you, but they also have an exp penalty applied to them and you actually get less exp.
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>>138286534
No, for Pardoner you need to have the skills yourself in order to sell them or craft them into scrolls. Simony and Spell Shop are two different skills with two different mechanics, but they have the same principle of selling skills to other players. I'll break it down for you if you're still really confused.

Spell Shop is a Pardoner's skill which allows you to set up a Buff Stall where people can buy buffs from you, and this lasts while you're offline as well. (Stalls are similar to Squire's Repair/Sharpening Shops)
You can only sell Sacrament, Aspersion and Blessing here, and you must have learnt the skills yourself in order to sell them as they use your skill's levels and attributes when casting these buffs. These buffs also have a much longer duration as well (~1 to 2 hours) when bought through Spell Shop.

Simony is another Pardoner's skill which lets you craft spell scrolls. You can only craft certain spells (https://tos.neet.tv/skills?simony=1&f=1), and you can only craft these if you have learnt the skills yourself. The level of the scroll made is based on both the level of the skill you're crafting, and Simony's level. So for example:

- Simony Lv 1 crafting Daino Lv 1 = Daino Lv 1 Scroll
- Simony Lv 10 crafting Daino Lv 10 = Daino Lv 10 Scroll
- Simony Lv 5 crafting Daino Lv 10 = Daino Lv 5 Scroll

These scrolls can then be sold via the market to people. The scrolls are usable items which just cast the skill itself.

Because of this, there are Pardoner builds for Spell Shop and Simony usage separately. For example, a Priest3-Pardoner2 build would be for Spell Shop, maxing out Aspersion, Blessing and Sacrament. There's also builds which take Krivis1 so they can craft Lv 5 Daino scrolls, and other builds like Paladin3-Pardoner1 to sell Lv 5 Barrier scrolls.
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>>138287539
How long do the boofs last? Can you stock up on them or does the Pardoner just cast it on you there?
>>
What's the better Lv200 dungeon for exp, Archmage Tower or the one in Fedimian?
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>>138287528
Will give that a try then since finding a group can be aids at times, thanks for tip, wouldn't wanna end up in that sorta situation.
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>>138287204
If that's the case what purpose does the Incineration + Discerning Evil combo serves? It just increases the time of the debuff, but it doesn't add more.
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>>138278602
Wait so do you make any profit off that?
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>>138287628

Spell shop buffs last up to an hour or two.
Scrolls last as long as the skill would if it was used as normal.
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>Be the only pelt>hop Corsair in a 4 corsair+cleric party
>Have to tank because even though I deal 3x more damage than them

Fuck these useless pricks
>>
Bots and cheaters seriously ruining this game.
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>>138287658
Yes
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>>138287732
> corsair

the meme is strong
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>>138287695
Maybe Incinerate is considered a debuff that can be extended itself.
>>
I grinded Tenet Church 2F too much now I'm LVL 50 without having done Orsha's dungeon quests. Should I just go for Tenet dungeon and get 60 with the runs or should I go for Orsha's dungeon first?
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>>138287732
>something happened that wasn't optimal
>something happened that I didn't like

ok
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>>138287695
>>138287794
Incinerate is a debuff itself, so Discerning Evil can extend the time Incinerate lasts for which directly will improve the damage of the skill.
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Okay so I wanna have at least one fun time slice of life character in the form of Squire, Alchemist, or Pardoner to give free shit out to people in our guilds. Which seems like the least offensive for you to party with/leech with lower classes?
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Is Sword1>Pelt3>Rod3 viable? I wanna be shieldbro.
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>>138287814
go and do the orsha side wtf is wrong with you
>>
Are archers the most useless cunts in a dungeon party?
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>>138287732
>wahh I have to cast swashbuckling every now and then
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>>138287819
Thanks for listening to my complaints.
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>>138287745
I agree, just went through the Tenet Chapel and bots where basically everywhere
>>
>do mission
>sword2/archer2/wiz2 dies and leaves immediately
>one person will leave if there is no healer
>have to 4 man every time which just takes longer but isn't hard

Man fuck these people
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>>138287893
And outside

Archers in this game are the scum of the earth. Filthy no-good kill-stealing thieves. Every time I see one pass by my eye twitches and my whole body begins to shake and tremble in a furious rage.
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>>138287893

they do good dps. useless = more than 1 swordsman or peltless swordsman
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>>138287814
Go do 2 (3 if you're token master race) runs of the Lv 50 instance dungeon first now that you're 50. You should get 10 levels from 2-3 runs of it. EXP from dungeons start to dip when you're 10 levels higher than the entry limit.

After that, go do the Orsha quests for more cards.
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>>138287893
I like it when a Scout uses their pet to debuff everyone.
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>>138287875
Yes
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>>138287875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-83xiZ65UU&ab_channel=%EC%B5%9C%EC%A0%95%ED%98%84
I wouldn't reccomend
>>
MYST ARE UGLY NEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS
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>>138287893
At mid level, probably. High level archers are pretty sweet, especially if they have a circle in Falconer for the AoE Ratio debuff. Synergizes ridiculously well with everyone that does AoE damage.
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Level 98 here. Should I card to 100 for missions and junk, or just wait till tomorrow to run the level 90 dungeon?
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This game is so much fun. I haven't had this much fun with an MMO in years.
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>>138288079
It's up to how much you like to hoard your cards.
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>playing ToS on weekends

I can already feel the lag coming
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FWEEEE, FWEEEE, FWEEEE ALERT. CUTE BOYS
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Anybody know where the hell i can find the Secretum recipe?
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>>138288169
Party finder is already kinda broken.
Just when I use my first exp tome, goddammit.
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What are the worthwhile skills on Oracle C1?
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>seism
>create and earthquake
>slash damage
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>Level two characters to 75
>Be already bored with this game

Feels strange man
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>>138282213

Still want to know this.
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Made an alt to turn into a Sadhu, while doing it decided to try to get all monster kills needed for the counter. Turns out your classlevel goes faster than regular level for the first two circles.

Regretting I didn't farm on my priest now, since it's taking me foerver to reach circle6
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>>138286757
>equal start
>some become rich and some can barely save up for a pet

explain this berniefags
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Okay I am getting conflicting shit everywhere. Where can I find an updated list of Spell Shop and Simony skills?
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>>138288569
https://tos.neet.tv/skills?simony=1&f=1 for Simony.

Aspersion, Blessing and Sacrament for Spell Shop.
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>>138288328
>level up to 110
>have to start over because shit build

Feel bad man.
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>>138288379
priest is pretty mind numbingly boring though

at least with sadhu you can literally become DIO

Max int and then
max it to C3 for the Ultimate Stand
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Anyone else getting disconnects when they try to go into a dungeon for the third time?
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help
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>>138281814
>tos
>cartoony/hipster videogame
>implying
any no-brainer can expect such
i mean, just look at what has been posted here for a second
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>barbarian is still life on easy mode

why did you lie to me fa.m?
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>>138288723
Roam the map
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>>138288736
>hipster videogame
>the second coming of RO
i dispute your claim
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>>138288825
To test my abilities.
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>>138288723
>Area: Vedas Plateau

are you blind
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Who is the best speed runner in this game?
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>>138288623
I wanted to be a Squire instead but you fucks told me it was stupid and pointless and Pelta was bad and you appreciate nothing. Is Pardoner any different?
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>>138282035
Yes, people like having shit accuracy and then complaining they can't hit anyone in PvP.
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>>138288925

Every class is bad.
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>>138288943

Yeah, sure, because once you put a glove in your character, they get glued to your hands forever.
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>>138288925
>Is Pardoner any different?
>10% chance of instamurdering anything in both PvE and PvP, except bosses

welp
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is the goggle rate supposed to be high? I got like 10 from just questing
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>>138289045
His point is that it isn't the best equip for everything
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>>138288925
>immediately agreeing with multiple opinions in these threads instead of formulating your own
Just play what you like.
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>>138288925
nigga I have bad news for you
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>>138289098
yes
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>>138289128
Don't do this. It's a trap.
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Pls make boss timer for EU and SEA ;-;
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>>138289263
fuck off
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>>138289218
Anon, please be quiet!
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>>138289292
you too
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Mfw servers are laggy as fuck
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>>138289128
This is best advice, just make sure you plan it out very carefully.
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what's the most optimal way to farm a mini-boss like cafrisun?
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>mobs that freeze you
I swear to god this AI is programmed to perfectly stagger it out so that they only cast once you're about to unfreeze

can't stand this shit
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Why is no one doing 160lvl dungeon?
No matter how shitty it is, it's better than no dungeon at all.
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>>138289506
DON'T SAY ANYTHINGGGG

ALRIGHT
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>>138289561

>he didn't skip to level 186

wowee
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how do i make an account here kind anon? TOS i mean
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>>138280540
Both, obviously, one for mobbing, one for bosses.
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How do you guys deal with bots and people camping good grinding spots?
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>>138289490
Bots
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>>138289081
That means nothing when you consider its got a 15 second cooldown, most likely single target, enemies already die within that 15 seconds with normal classes. Thats like trying to use debuffs on weak regular enemies in an RPG, but they dont work on bosses at all.

>>138289128
Normally I would agree but if I build something party reliant and then get no parties in our out of /tosg/ then why even play?
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>>138281814
>Exiles

I got matched with this idiot earlier along with TWO (2) Linker3s

What a shitfest.
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>>138289642
let them pull

cryomancer box them

kill mobs

type haha

They usually leave.

If it's bots i'm quicker at killing so it's fine.
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>pet can only face 1 direction in lodge
fucking triggered
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Post some good builds /tosg/.
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Why is Ignition so expensive?
Seems kinda shitty to me compared to the other options you have at that level.
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>>138289871
more likes than you
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>1. r tos
>2. offical tos forums
>3. tosbase forums
>4. /tosg/

is this correct senpai?
>>
>DS3 a couple days away
Its been fun /tosg/ see you homos around
>>
what's the point of highlander 3 - corsair 2 - dragoon
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>>138290074
In terms of what? Progress? Size? Autism?
>>
>>138289668
>That means nothing when you consider its got a 15 second cooldown, most likely single target, enemies already die within that 15 seconds with normal classes. Thats like trying to use debuffs on weak regular enemies in an RPG, but they dont work on bosses at all.

wew lad

It scales with AoE attack like any melee attack. I guess you've never been to Grand Yard Mesa.
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>>138290110
>have to interrupt my tos grind
I can't believe I'm saying this but I really wish it was coming out in like two more weeks.
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>>138289871
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>>138290231
Ive never tried Pardoner at all so its basing it off an assumption. I seriously doubt they would make it that effective even with a cost.
>>
whats the best way to level a gem?
>>
How much does Nesting Egg sell for? I didn't even notice that I got one until checking my inventory just now
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>>138290898
Hatch it for a bigger price.
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>>138290898
For nothing, everyone has one
>>
>There will never be maps full of bosses for you and your party to defeat, only large boring swathes of tiny ones
>Running around like a retard will never not be the best way to "tank"
>There will never be a PvE reason for single target CC or damage
>There will never be a west coast server and you will always have to deal with east coast ping
>Controller mode will never be as useful as mouse mode for archers
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>>138290993
Bullshit, I saw a faggot buying one for like 100k+ yesterday in these threads
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>>138291137
probably cause it had an enchant retard
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Is 115 dungeon even good for exp? Just went 3 (three) times for arde rolls at 90 because I've spent 20 mins of my fucking exp tome waiting 115 queue.
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>>138290523
Buy loads of cheap junk from the auction house and feed it.
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>>138290287
What's DS3?
I don't keep up with videogames much anymore.
>>
Will this lag ever end?
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>>138291187

wtf, use it when you are inside the dun
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>>138291232
It will only become worse, especially when f2p hits and you know it.
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Which classes are currently shit tier?
>>
What are the level 100 missions? Are they pretty much just like dungeons? Do they give the same amount of exp?
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>rolled a new cleric
>highlander bots killing nearly everything at low levels

How am I supposed to deal with this
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>>138290110
>tfw thought I would be able to hit rank 7 before it came out but life interrupted me
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>>138291408
Half of the swordsman tree :^)
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>>138291431
i got 1 level off 2 missions at 115, no tome or active token

they are pretty short no reason not to
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>>138291443
reroll hahaman there are currently too many clerics
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>>138291443
You ride my big Barbarian cock all the way to the top.
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>>138291187
Why do you pop your tome before starting
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>>138291385
I know, I went to siaulai mission before, 30min of tome left and no dungeon reset, so I wanted to spend it somewhere decent.
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>>138291408
Everything that use swords
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hi
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Literally the best support/utility/heal Cleric build in the game
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>>138291073
But that isnt the best way to tank.
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>>138291630
>>138291637
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>>138291651
cofffee how do i level quickly at 114
its so slow
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>>138291651
Show us your trap dick.
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>>138291679
>krivis 2
>best support/utility/heal

Nah.
>>
>gather a mob
>mage walking by immediately scrambles over and blows his ksing load all over it
>gather another mob
>cataphract walks by, stops for a second, and then keeps walking
this just in, ranged classes are killstealing shitfuckers, melee classes are bros
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>>138291764
>Priest shitter thinks his petty buffs will be even noticeable late in end game.
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>>138291857
Heal15 from cleric3 would be a much better option, and it'd give you more damage for soloing than krivis2. I've never played a priest, but supposedly their res is useful.
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>everything at 180 is starting to hurt like a bitch
>find good level appropriate armor recipes
>they require multiple dullahan kills

fugggg
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>>138291778
I swear, all archer faggots are biggest massive cunts ever
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>>138291980
More healing and res are only for carrying baddies. I dont play with those.
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what's a good bow for ranger->scout at 150-170?
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>>138291980
I've played Cleric 3 before and the damage from Heal 15 is about the same as a Zaibas 10, it also doesn't hit flying mobs.
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>>138291443
>Reach Manahas and Genar Field
>100+ maps are also full with bots
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>>138291778
>gather a mob
>archer and wizard pass by and let me do it
>Random swordie pass by and start cleaving the shit out of them

this just in, melee classes are killstealing shitfuckers, ranged classes are bros
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How do I level from 190? I read I need to save my cards but there are no grinding parties like for demon prison and dungeons would take weeks because of the lockout
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>>138292354
>Things that never happened
>>
What the fuck did you faggots test in the closed beta? This game is so fucked in the most basic functions. The inventory search and sort are totally fucked up.
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>>138292354
>Scroll up through thread and read countless stories of archers doing this too
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>>138291431

Missions are minidungeons.

They don't give amazing exp, but you may as well because they're (usually) quick and easy.

The exact exp the Siaulai mission gives is 4 x (20,000 + highest party members level x 1000). This is good at low levels, at higher levels it's a lot less good but still. It's that or nothing.
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>>138292354
>archer and wizard pass by and let me do it
I too have these dreams
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>>138292463
They give like 20% per run, no matter what fucking level you are - that's better than most dungeons
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I just want a qt3.14 female cleric to exploit and Bully
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I wish they'd change how getting credit for kills worked. Giving full credit to whomever takes the very last sliver of health is not a good system.
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>>138292427
we tested circle-jerking and how to kiss without an emote
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>>138292427
If you truly believe imc even read bug reports in CBT you're gonna be in for a surprise.
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>>138278762
>>138278907
>>138279106
>>138279309
>>138279406
>>138279782
>>138280186
>>138281592
>>138281728
What skills are you guys ranking up in Cryo? I was about to make a Cryo3 Chrono3 build, but I have no idea what I should be ranking up in cryo.
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>>138292595

They don't. If you do they at like level 100, it's more like 80% a run, from there it drops until at the high 200s it's like 1% a run.
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>>138292595
lol more like 6% per run at 26x
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Good build?

He's on that reddit guild even
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>>138292679
This is a flat out lie

don't do that
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>>138291778
I'm a Cryo, I don't even have damage to kill my own mob let alone ks you, yet you fucks still ks me the chance you get, there's no such thing as "melee classes are bros".
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>>138292354
>tfw a melee shitter near me is slowly whittling down a pack of mobs
>indiscriminately aim electrocute in a way that the bolt stretches out and chains to all of his mobs, oneshotting them
>say "OOPS!" and continue to do it 20 times
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>this games music
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>>138292742
>being a victim of class retribution
unfortunate, blame the BRs
>>
Is it a bug that I can continue to use my weapon after it reaches 0 durability, or is it being used at like 10% of its actual damage or what?
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>>138292726
Why the fuck would he not go archer 2 quarrel 3 instead
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>>138292729

You're the liar. They do not give a guaranteed 20% exp, you can ask anyone who has actually gotten to a higher level.

The thing is, once you reach these kinds of levels, you've got to do them because there is fuck all else to do. Quests end at 235 and dungeons at 240, and the only other content to do past 240 is either not worth doing, or ball breakingly hard with 1 run a day.
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>>138292726
Usually you'd want to get QS3 before Archer2/3, so he kinda made it a lot harder for himself than it has to be. Still, Archer3 QS3 Cannonr/Musket is one of the meme-iest builds there is right now.
>>
>>138292925
It provides no stats. And if you remove it you can't equip it back.
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>>138288221

anybody?
>>
>>138292925

If your equipment breaks, you can still use it, but it provides you with no stats of any kind. It's equipped but essentially treated as if nothing is equipped.
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>>138292929
Because Twin Arrows are better early on.
>>
So, I did the LVL 50 dungeon once and I only got like 1 level. Why do people say you get 10 levels easy?
>>
Whats up with this lag on Klai? It was bad last night, too.
>>
Any other madman here trying to drop monster gems?
>>
>>138292929
Shouldn't you get qs3 first?
>>138292978
I know it's a popular build, but there's no reason to get qs3 at r6. He was doing absolutely nothing all time, too.
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>>138292995
>>138293080
Thanks!
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>>138293134

Because you did something wrong.

Did you not kill everything in the dungeon or something?
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>roll cryo just like in CB2
>Ice pike sometimes hits the wrong way because of lag
>Ice wall works only half of the time because lag doesn't let me hit my wall for extra damage
>Ice rolling barely ever comes out and when it does it doesn't pull a shit
I could handle having to spend all my sp to kill some mobs, but having half of my moves do nothing is retarded
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>>138293214
We killed everything including the boss. There were 4 side rooms, 3 corridors and then the boss room. Is this correct?
>>
>>138293134
>>138293293
What level were you when you entered it? Experience gain drops off after being 5 levels above the mobs.
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>>138290348
that's actually pretty legit except sorc+necro
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>>138293370
50. I did it with other 5 people. Is that normal or too many?
>>
Does anyone else have their character randomly freeze after an attack? I can't count how many times I've died in 170+ zones because my character decided to turn into a statue.
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>>138293293
Are you 50?
Did you pop an EXP tome?
Are you not a poorfag?

These will all swing your XP heavily
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>>138291778
I can't vouch entirely for that. I've had multiple cataphracts KS my mob, and few pass me by
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>>138293293
did you random party match or premade

because random party match gives like 600% exp
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>>138293449
EXP tome? No

>>138293370
Someone in my party was 75. Does that decrease my XP gain?
>>
>>138284181
Probably used for the scrolling megaphone text at the top of the screen.
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>>138293436
Server is shit. Apparently paying money makes the game work worse than in CBT
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>>138293429
What levels were the people you partied with? Because if you went in with someone at 70+ they ate all your XP
>>
How the fuck am I suppose to level after 200? Dungeons + Missions are giving me maybe 1.5-2 levels for 3 runs of each, and there is no good grinding spots.

How the fuck are people doing it?
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>>138293549
kek yes
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>>138293589
>>138293636
How can I prevent from getting matched with 70+ players?
>>
>>138293549
Yeah, you got fucked over by that guy sorry dude
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>>138293684
requeue after 4 minutes
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>>138293603
People say to save your lv9 cards until 210 and then pop them to jump up to 217 for the next dungeon, but I have no idea how to even get to 210.
The next good grind spot seems to be the truffles in one of the forest zones but you need to be around 220 to do that minimum I think
>>
Is this game not shit?
Are animations fixed yet?
>>
>>138293684
You can't. Just like you can't be prevented from teaming up with 4 terrible ranged guys
>>
Should I save my lv 5 exp cards ?
>>
>>138293786
>the archer in our group pretty much was afk half the time just following along and not attacking

i thought archers being useless was a meme but that fucking guy
>>
>>138293774
203
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>>138293684
By not using the fucking dungeon finder and just creating the party manually? It's usually a better idea due to how much more efficient it is anyway
>>
>>138293774

I'm saving my cards to make the jump from 210 to 217. But how the fuck do I go from 200 to 210? That is like a week of running dungeons + missions (excluding exp penalty for out levelling the dungeon).

There is nowhere else to grind at either (not that I want to sit around for 5 hours to level once).
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>>138293957
Unfortunately, you get less experience that way.
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>>138293783
No.
No.
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>>138293970
I have no idea, I'm in the exact same situation. Stuck at low 200s waiting for dungeons and missions. It fucking sucks.
I tried grinding in some of the late 190s/early 200s zones and they all were garbage
>>
Is the quick search broken? keeps cycling
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>>138294160
Just have to retry until you get in, eventually it will let you
>>
>>138293909
He did his best move, he would have died several times while doing nothing if he had done something
>>
>have a great grinding spot all to myself
>getting huge fucking lag spikes like no other

Are the goldsellers back in full force on Klaipeda or something?
>>
just hiding damage numbers from other players would fix half the fps problems the game has
>>
>>138294365
I had a ton of lag in Feretory hills when trying to get some Hooks. Although I guess that's expected since that place is Priest Bot Central.
>>
did someone ddos the server or something what the fuck
>>
>>138294017
I'm getting sick of this meme

Who the hell cares about a small decrease in experience per mob when your group ends up not having a cleric or when your group ends up being 5 archers or 5 swordsmen, etc or you get matched with someone 20 levels over yourself and have to eat a dungeon use to get out and requeue

The point is that you are running the dungeon much slower due to inefficiencies and rolling the dice, so you might as well just make your own party, then get to other quests faster
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>>138294568
Dungeons with a pre-made or solo group gives 400% experience to that of normal mobs. Dungeon finder gives 600%. It isn't a meme.
>>
How good is the 175 dungeon exp-wise? Could it carry me to the exp reset at 187?
>>
>>138294662
even with 600% xp it's not worth losing way more time, risking getting matched with people 30 levels over the dungeon and getting no xp and playing with retards in general

one day you people will understand
>>
Is there any place where you can check how many of a specific monster you need to kill before they shit out an EXP card?
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>>138294682
25%/run, takes 15 minutes
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>>138294662
And 200% is fucking small as shit
>>
>>138294682
175 dungeon isn't very good. You get around 20-30% of a level from it at 175. The next good dungeon is 190.
>>
>>138294568
>>138294760
I thought they got rid of that group penalty for having a high level matched with you.
>>
>>138294365
I'm getting hit by them in random spikes. Got huge lag and rubber banding and even skills not working for a couple minutes, then an hour good, then lag again.
>>
>>138294793
It's 50% more experience with dungeon finder than it is as a pre-made group. That isn't small.

Personally, I believe pre-made groups should give more experience than dungeon finder.
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>>138294818
They did, the guy has no idea what he is talking about.
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>shitpeda
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>>138294662
>Doesnt understand that 600% mobs on one dungeon run in 50 minutes is worse than 400% on mobs in two dungeon runs in 20 minutes

Begone, memer
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Is the Doom Spear even in the game?
>>
>>138294818
>>138294920

They did, but the bosses, the main reason you're doing these missions, are the same level as the highest level character in your team. Finder can be awesome some times, but utter shit in others.
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>>138294761

adventure journal > monsters > search name and check counter
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>>138295002
id is the problem not time you retarded mongoloid
>>
>>138295002
>implying that matters when you only have 3 runs per day
>>
>>138294913
>Personally, I believe pre-made groups should give more experience than dungeon finder.

You're being launched into a potentially flawed party with no control over it, of course it should get a bonus.
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Just got this, is it good?

https://tos.neet.tv/items/7120093
>>
>60-90k+ silver from 130 dungeon in ktos
>barely 20k+ silver per run with a corsair now.

T-thanks IMC why are we playing the worse version now?
>>
What's the class that lets me ride my pets?
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>>138294913
>Personally, I believe pre-made groups should give more experience than dungeon finder.

I used to think this too but it would completely lock out people with perfectly viable builds because groups only want very specific classes a lot of the time and I'm not saying this because I'm a swordie - I swear
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Where the fuck is the remaining 3% on Passage of the Recluse????
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>>138295224
Nigga do you want the game to be overrun by bots? You should be thanking based IMC for reducing income.
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>>138295041
The Dungeon Finder for Missions will ALWAYS put you in a group with people around your level range. The biggest difference I've ever seen was 14 levels, at which point you would still be getting more than if you queued with a premade.
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>>138295107
>>138295082

>Fuck up in dungeons forever because your comp is trash and slowly slog your way through all 3 with slightly more exp for your troubles

>Efficiently go through your three dungeons at a brisk pace due to a good comp and then go back to questing

Gee I wonder which is more time efficient in levels per hour
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>>138295463
Jokes on you. I'm a cleric. I can work with every group and get 600%.
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>tfw the gooks won and i used TP for scrolls and ponytail
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>>138295463
>questing xp is capped
>not maximizing your dungeon ids


redditniggers lmao
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>Crimson's Guild Tower is directly north of the 190 dungeon
Seems like a bad spot for a tower doesn't it?
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>>138292616
I agree with your opinion. J-just wanted to let you know
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>>138291651
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>>138295534

s l u t
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>>138295301

Cataphract

or Schwarze reiter
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>>138295331
Just hug the walls
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>>138295110
No, party finder should be explicitly for the turbo autists who couldn't be bothered to start their own party or LFG. Those "I don't play an MMO to interact with other people" guys.
Or, if there has to be a bonus, make it "Half price cube rerolls"
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Is it worth going Cataphract for just one circle?
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>>138295431
>The Dungeon Finder for Missions will ALWAYS put you in a group with people around your level range
I've been grouped with people 10+ levels above me countless times, When I'm not the highest level person in the mission, with some or other guy 8ish levels below me.

By that point, you'll start doing much less damage and taking a shitload more, that's especially bad if your party has no con faggots, as the apples and hurricane from the tree, hedgehog spikes and the golem's slam can 1-2hko sub 10k hp people. Party composition and player retardness are an important factor
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I need help to make a bad Archer build
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>>138295947
3 or bust
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My NPC waifu.
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>>138295947
No, you go Cata for lv15 Trot.
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Who /overthreedozentaltandnothingelse/ here

I can't even exchange these for Lolipan petting sessions, this is complete schlock.
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Ran the dungeon with a proper group now and got 5 levels. Thanks guys! So should I do the 50 dungeon every day twice until LVL 70 or so?
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>>138295947
>>138296006
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>>138295990
>tfw have to play on my laptop since desktop is out of commission
>highest fps is 15
>some quests are literally impossible at this framerate
kill me now
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Is
Archer -> QS3
good for PvP minigame?
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>just got done with Royal Mausoleum
>no main quest tooltip

the heck do I go now?
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>>138296120
Going for my daily dose right now.
I'm going to be a memedoctor before I get an Arde at this rate.
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>>138295724
Said the shota rapist fox
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Which classes synergize well with Shinobi?
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>>138295885
So rewards should be based on how proactive you are rather than the difficulty you face?
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>>138296223
Archer3 QS3 Musk is one of the best PvP builds. QS is excellent single target burst from medium range that lets you stay mobile at the same time and Musk is broken as shit and can one shot anyone that isn't in a Safety Zone
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>>138296518
>Archer3 QS3 Musk is one of the best PvP builds.
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>use party finder
>get in dungeon
>faggot demands we do a boss rush even though 4 people in the party would benefit from the exp
If you want to do a boss rush make a fucking party
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>>138296642
Why bother with silly things like CC when you can just one shot people the moment they enter your field of view?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdrM4RKIUsQ
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Kissing in front of a hidden quest!
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>Can't fucking transfer skill and stat reset potions via the fucking team storage

This is horseshit. Now they're on a character I don't even want to look at anymore, and they'll stay there forever. This wasnt advertised, IMC.
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can you get to like 200+ without using dungeons and questing most of the way there?

i fucked my build up and i don't want to go dungeons and get laughed at.
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how do i level quickly at 110+? It has slowed down so much
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Windy down in the forests
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>>138296787
>snipe before the range '''bug fix'''
Nice argument
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>>138296848
It's going to take you 400 times as long, but sure you can.
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>>138296848
Why not just make a new character if you're build is that fucked up?
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>>138296848
Post build so we can laugh at you
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>>138296848

Nope. You either do dungeons, or grind a hell of a lot.
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>>138295863
I hugged the wall. It's a fucking tiny map yet I can't even 100% it fugg
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>>138296787
Snipe was bugfixed 3 times after this video, buddy.
Lower range
Lower hitbox (must be in the inner reticle now)
Slower reticle speed
Different damage scaling (lowered)
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>>138296517
Well, yes. It's potential difficulty like you said. And even then the difficulty mostly just comes down to tedium because things take longer to kill.
Flat out I'd rather the bonus for random party finder be the same as a properly composed preformed party with the PF just being a convenience tool.

I mean it's an MMO, people should be encouraged to form their own parties rather than leave it all up to automation. I don't think I've ever even seen anyone non-Klaipeda in the matchmaker anyway.
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>>138296821
That Diev looks exactly like me.
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>>138296901
All that nerf did was make the AoE smaller, it didn't touch the damage or anything you would care about in PvP. It was pretty much purely a PvE nerf since you could one shot entire mob groups with Circling+Snipe.
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>somebody in dungeon says "Arde dagger! NOT!"
>Give him a light chuckle, haven't opened my cube
>Open cube
>Arde Dagger
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>>138297031
Do you also have cow ears? Mine aren't showing in the picture.
wanna be twins and do lewd twin things?
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>>138297101
>Give him a light chuckle
fuck off ERPer
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>>138296995
>Different damage scaling (lowered)

And then they added 12k base damage.

kek
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Welp, I managed to use normal SP potions until 192, but now Im finally starting to run completely dry on mana.
The welfare potion life was a good run.
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>>138293223

Cryo is a tricky gitgud wizard class, lagging kills they too much.
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>>138297101
>Give him a light chuckle
I hope it was worth using one of your trades for that
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Does anyone else see an inevitable Plague Doctor nerf in the near future?
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AAAAAH ITS THE 3RD TIME ITS FOUND A PARTY AND RESET
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>>138297289
I can't wait to get sorcerer to summon some shit and let shitty AI fight with shitty AI on lag
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>>138297191
Korean balancing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Swordsman is worthless, anyone think they should remove the class and just rework cleric to include more melee options?
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>>138297134
I have cat ears and a ponytail.
I'm only 128, i-if you're okay with me.
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I got one of these just now and I keep hearing about them. What do they do and why are they useful?
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We need more POTIONS. Here, grab the best alchemist/farmer build a man can make and use it.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/3ascvk8owg/
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>>138297337
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>>138292892
>blame the BRs
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>>138297395
>Like whores
I'm mad.

Likes should feel special.
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Scatter Caltrops for PVP? y/n
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>>138297479
They just werk
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leveling at 110+ is really slow, any advice? I quest and get like 1 exp card per quest...which is terrible
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>>138297479
You trade them with wannabe Templar sluts for blowjobs
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>>138297467
Wow, that's amazing! We just hit 127 and have a couple more cards, so we're pretty much at exactly the same spot.
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>160
>Waiting for dungeon queue.

>fucking nobody

Its so lonely. Have most people already reached 175?
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>>138297484
Whoa, good build
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>>138297726
Nobody does the 160 dungeon because it's fucking SHIT
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>>138297726
Nah, most people just skip that shitty dungeon.
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>>138296995
>Different damage scaling (lowered)
That's wrong though, it has been 400%+3193 base with +708.2 per skill level for some time now

>>138297048
The guy in the video isn't even getting the crosshair close to his targets, you need to stand fucking still to aim targets that probably aren't standing fucking still. By then, a cata would have just rushed and stunlocked you to death, unless you were cloaked or forced the target to stand still for some time (pheasant, hovering, headshot, full draw also works here but I don't know if PDs block that with bloodletting.)
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>>138297403
At least you wont be playing a hunter and can actually direct your minion

Playing a hunter is like getting punched in the balls every few seconds
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>Need some mana
>See cute boy sitting with a fireplace
>Proceed to sit next to him
>Mouse over him
>Kritto PedroL
>Run away as fast as I can
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When are they going to fix the fucking chat
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>>138297726
im 159, almost time for 160 dungeon
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Soon
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>>138297828
>racist AND gay
top degeneracy
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>>138297950
hello BR
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>>138297950
go home pedro
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>>138297981

so being white and heteromale means someone is a BR? BR loves some degeneracy, top tranny country.
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>>138297828
I would never sit next to you because you are ugly on the inside.
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>>138297467
what server are you on, by the way.
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>>138297717
We can meet somewhere when I finish my talt runs if you want.
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>>138298102
>brazil
>white
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>>138297717
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why is this thread infested with BR subhuman trash
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>>138298135
Klai.
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There's no reason not to do the 90 dungeon at lvl 110, rite fampairinos?
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>>138298205
Name one white country, anon.
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>>138298308
You'll get no exp and lots of Talt.
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>>138298337
argentina
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Can anyone fill me in on Chaplain? Like what does Aspergillum actually do? What stats would I want to take if I picked one? Con? Spr? Int? The fact they have so much additional damage looks cool but I'm not sure what to do and I don't want to fuck up since I used my stat reset potion on another character.
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>>138298337
sweden
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>>138298337
Belarus :^)
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>>138298337
Lithuania, where the game is based.
98% white.
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can anyone confirm this hidden quest?
>Can't meet again
http://ameblo.jp/tsuyucchi/entry-12086684212.html
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I'm going Archer 2>Hunter 1>Scout 1>Rouge 3
And non of you fags are going to stop me!
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>>138297890

You mean in like 4-5 weeks right?

F2P players will have a guild set up before we do at this rate.
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>>138297821
Does hunter minion rape their sp supply too? It'd be too terrible if that's the case
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Is the server shitting itself again?

I get DC'd every 10 minutes
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>>138298478
>rouge
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>>138298295
>>138298153
We'll meet up after we get back from the shop.
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>>138298478
You should go Archer2>Sapper3>????
But whatever
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>>138298456
The only reason for that is because that place is so shitty not even sand niggers want to go to Lithuania.

http://www.reuters.com/article/uk-europe-migrants-lithuania-idUSKCN0SK2DT20151026
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>>138298650
Please

I like sapper though
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>>138298674
They'd have to work, refugees don't want that. The few that came integrated extremely well.
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>Dievdirbys statues get knocked back by bosses AoE

I wouldn't mind this if the statues didn't have such shit range and making owl useless. I don't even feel like playing anymore.
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>>138298905
dunno how it is for owls but for the other statues the effect circle doesn't move even if the statue is kicked around
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I really like crossbows but frequently hear that archer classes aren't very good.

Is there a crossbow using class I could play that can still get in parties for dungeons easily?
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>>138298674
we should all move to lithuania and make video games real /tosg/!
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>>138298905
Lamia and Zemyna don't give a fuck, but yeah, with owls is pretty fucking annoying.
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>>138298790
How a giant rat can be this cute?
It also has this pure /comfy/ expression
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>>138298986
nope. The only good classes are cleric/wizard

if you care about endgame your options are roll a cookie cutter class, with a cookie cutter build

or make friends that will carry your wheel chair ass until the game inevitably dies in 4 months
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>>138298790

I didn't know hairy horses could swim!
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Did anyone ever find out where to find this recipe?
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>>138299184
in my poopoo
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Reminder that the endgame in this is getting comfy with /tosg/
(after we bully the BR guilds so hard they end up transferring to Orsha, that is.)
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Good or bad?
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>>138299284
Oh yeah, by "bully" do you mean getting shit on after talking trash?
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>>138298986
archer2-sapper2-rogue2-cannon

double broom trap a good
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>>138297726
>>138297851
DONT DO THE 160 DUNGEON! I did it for the first time yesterday and its absolute garbage. Dont waste your time.
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>>138299358

Just you wait.
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>>138299358
remove br from thread
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>>138299498
>this bad exp meme again
give it a rest
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Which would you prefer at the hypothetical guild house. A cute Pardoner that gives you free buffs, a cute Squire that gives you free or no profit repairs/buffs, or an Alchemist in the hopes that they drop the trade restrictions?
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Any Archer class that is worth going just one circle for?
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Does the 115 dungeon give good exp?
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>>138299332
good build
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>>138299691

Ranger and Scout
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>>138299498
The 160 dungeon can be amazing exp if you have a well balanced group and people know what they are doing. If you use the finder you might as well not do it.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/goodbye-tree-of-failure/181054

What do you think of THIS?
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>>138299332
it's shit, senpai.
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What are the essentials to be a healslut? Are there any options or is there one definitive best path to heal and support
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>>138299691
Hunter
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>>138298486

we already have one templar and more on the way
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>>138300095
>complains about males wearing heels

Has the man never wore boots, or dress shoes?
>>
Heu anons!

Any bugs to get silver fast and easy ;) ???
I'm current on level 65 and on my way to the Mausoleum
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>>138300095
Pretty accurate besides the heels remark, which is just being a bitch.
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Fuck this game is linear as fuck I can't even imagine how boring it must be to create a second character.
What happened to the "If you don't like quests you can just grind, we want to give the players both options" statement?
Also apart from the Earth tower what's supposed to be the end game? Guild wars are 10 FPS clusterfuck so far from what I have heard.
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>>138300095
>All the replies are "looooool goodbye k!!!"
>They dont realize how they will be feeling in a few months
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>>138300168
Can't call yourself a healslut without Cleric3 and Priest3.
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>>138300326
>Some faggot goes on the forums and announces he will no longer play the game
>I'm expected to give a fuck
looooool goodbye k!!!
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>>138300168
>healslut
This is the only requirment
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>>138300325
what MMO isn't the exact same thing the second time through?

I agree completely though, game is basically "follow this straight line, if you stray at ALL you are fucked"
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>>138300168
Base minimum will be cleric2 or priest3. Or both.
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This nigga with his AoE spam almost got me.
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>see someone having trouble with a horde of mobs
>casts sleep then frost pillar
>run and scroll back to town
>minutes later he/she thanks me via pm
>log off
>mfw

I've been doing it for too long but that's the first time someone thanked me.
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>>138300326
What are they supposed to do? Say "Oh no please don't go! I'm sorry you aren't having fun and none of the systems in place are enjoyable for you, but stay so I'll have something to do in August!"

The onus is on the devs to make the game worth playing, the players aren't responsible for shit.
>>
Is Carve Attack 15 worth it if you're going a druid?
>>
i dont like the quests

why do i have to be the chosen one
>>
>>138300423
Yeah I hate the goodbye shit too but nearly all the points he made were valid and the public needs to be reminded lest they grow complacent with this treatment. He is doing them a service. If theres anything you all dislike about all this you need to be out there complaining and making a scene, constructively or this will be KILL and the population will just spread to private servers that can do things right.
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How?
I don't have time to wait 2 days to collect money from the market.
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>>138300759
just keep selling shit, anon. sell and then forget about it. then in 2 days it's like free money. :3
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>>138300518
>>138300327

Yeah I was planning to go Cleric2 and Priest3, I have no idea what to get after that tho. PD seems to be a popular choice in builds, is it any good? It looked to me like it's all about dispelling debuffs but I don't know how important that is.
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>>138291187
i thought the arde dagger only drops from the lvl 90 dungeon
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>>138300567
You're gonna love Ferret Marauder and the Demon Guy.
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>>138299992
DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS PERSON
the 160 dungeon is not even remotely worth doing
its a glorified mission without the scaling exp
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>>138287874
>>138287874
>>138287874
ANSWER THISSSS
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>>138291187
Better than 90 when you're 115 for sure.
I did 3 runs of that at 115 + 2 missions and I'm 121 now.
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>>138300095
My question is why did /v/ literally fellate this game until it was released? Why was steam like "Omg this is the BEST game ever!!"

Then it came out, ratings dropped by almost 30%, hate everywhere, nobody is enjoying anything, whaaat?

Are people just blind to faults before something i s released? Was all the positive feedback for what the game -could- be and not what it actually is?
I'm genuinely confused.
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>>138300640
I sort of want to help people when they are mobbing but I can't really tell if they actually need help or if me doing so will just warrant them asking ``why the fuck are you ksing. fucking swordiescum''.
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>>138301225
How about no.
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>>138301340
It's mostly horrendous server issues, excessive trade restrictions, and bots that are the problem. Those things didn't exist in the betas. That's why the ratings dropped dramatically.
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>>138301340
>Game comes out
>People like it, so they're too busy playing it to shitpost
>People don't like it, so they're constantly shitposting about it
>>
the exp reset is at 136, right? Gonna blow my lvl 5s to reach that then start my 130 dungeon runs
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>>138301225
Vendor pardoner > Scroll selling pardoner > Linkerchemist >>> Squire
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>>138301340
People wanted a RO sequel. The newfigs here can deny it all they want but the majority of people here were looking for that and no matter how bad the news got they held on that it was going to be okay. Then it just kept getting worse. IMC kept getting crazier. IMC refuses to listen to feedback during beta, they sure as fuck won't after launch. Honestly your best bet at this point is to wait a few months for private servers that actually address them.
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>>138301340
people get over hyped for something and then get dissapointed. same thing happens with every game. the only really egregious thing they did was the original 3month head start. Everything else is just nickle and diming everything which i expected from a korean grinder
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>>138301340

>Was all the positive feedback for what the game -could- be and not what it actually is?

Yes that is exactly it. I really want to love this game but IMC has been fucking up hard as we can all obviously see with this release. Hopefully they can get their shit together.

People spammed negative reviews because of the all the server issues, commanderloadfail, etc
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>>138301535
Give reasons for your answer anon. Tell me the secret of the crafter.
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>>138301528
86
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Is there any way to chase down these bastards and make them unlike me?
>>
I'm LVL 60 and I haven't used my LVL 2 cards. Should I just use them now and be done with them?
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>>138302051

It's the weirdbuild Krivis! Hi friend!!!
>>
>actually bother to make a distinctive looking character
>half your friends now want to copy you

it's the fairest form of flattery, i guess...
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>>138302051
Yeah. Fix your fucking stat allocation.
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>>138302197
>Being delusional
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>another repeatable quest for gathering
stop this shit

who the fuck makes these quests, I'd rather just grind mindlessly
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>>138302051
what the fuck stats am I looking at
do you have a learning disability?
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>>138302051
What kind of shit stat allocation is that?
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This is probably my 4th MMO

>no friends to play with
>pretty much just grinding to keep myself in the top 10%
>only playing because banking on WoE like additions later
>I can already tell I'll be the last person in the guild like other mmos and be depressed


I should quit this genre shouldn't I?
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>>138302051
Enjoy, you loose harlot.
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How many mementalist have you guys run into so far? I've seen surprisingly few.
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>>138302308
>being specifically asked where i got all the pieces so they can go get them too is delusional
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>>138302323
Then just grind mindlessly. What's the problem?
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>>138302483
about 3/4 of the Wiz3s
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Is it possible to corral bots with ice wall?
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>>138302051
>ask a question
>get bullied like HELL because of how you did your setup

not this guy, but this is why i don't want to play with anyone and i'm sure no one wants to play with a shitter like me ;_;
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>>138302483
wiz2 makes most mages give up because of how boring it is
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>>138302197
pretty sad how deluded you are man
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>Valia Recipe
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOOD FOR BUT IT'S NOT TALT
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>>138302323
If you do it in a party with other people then you all get counts for every item everyone in the party gathers, provided you're near enough to the others.
Randoms don't seem to understand this though so I hope you have friends.
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>>138302616
because i'm autistic about completing the adventure log

and I think the quests still end up being the fastest way to go because of exp cards
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>vubbe fighter gloves
I don't get it
is it just for Aoe Attack Ratio 2?
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>>138302134
H-hi.

>>138302219
>>138302327
Believe in in me!

>>138302393
You bastard! I alt tabbed out for a split second.
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Literally Jews.
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>>138302323
if you dont like boring repetitive quest.. quit like now. game is all about quests
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>>138302889
Yes, it makes you hit 2 more monsters. For instance, Swordsman auto attacks hit 3 monsters at most. With those gloves you can hit 5.
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>>138302538
sure
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>>138300896
It is so good it's a meme, anon. You should also think about being a chaplain or a pardoner.
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>>138302680
They asked a silly pointless question. They added in their stat screen for no reason other than to draw attention to how silly their build is. They did it on purpose for attention.
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>>138302924
>>138302924
>>138302924
>>138302924


LITERALLY FUCKING JEWS
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>>138303025
the +10 STR is strong too
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>>138302929
i just wanted an MMO where I could grind wherever I want depending on my mood, not be railroaded with a shit ton of quests making it harder to group up with other people

I hope past lvl 100 there'll be a shortage of quests so I do have periods so I actually have freedom.
>>
Who else enjoys the super sketchy boss battles where two people DC and you have to use cards for second wind twice more than the easy boss killed in 10 seconds runs?
Also when does 90 dung stop being good xp?
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>>138302538
Post your character then.
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>>138302924
Pardoners are moneygrubbing faggots.
There's one questline that revolves around a pardoner getting absolutely buttblasted because a squire won't let him desecrate a grave to get all the jewels in it for himself.
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>>138303139
>>
>>138303139
>tfw senpai is leveling near you
d
o
u
s
h
i
o
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>>138303175
>I hope past lvl 100 there'll be a shortage of quests
Naah, only at 2xx

>TOS is muh korean grind game
is a lie
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>>138302538
you're a tool.
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>>138302051
I want to fuck the bad build out of you.
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>>138303360
touch his penis
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>>138302051
Good build
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Collections on every map was a mistake
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>>138303175
Anon, at least this game LETS you grind at certain points and then after LVL 200. It's a good thing that this game is so popular because now next MMOs might bring back grinding a bit. You can't expect change so fast.
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>>138303139

Do you think he'd share any of his jewgold with me if he was my npc husbando?
Asking for a friend
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>>138302913
daijoubu anon
I believe.
that you're cute!
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>ragnarok is better than this game

i will never ever get hyped for an mmorpg ever again
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>>138303139
>Mistes Goldmund
>>
Canooners are good right?
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>>138303687
Same here
ToS is just a disappointment, maybe I should play Legion with my friends when it comes out.
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>Level 115
>Gaining 1 level per hour from questing
haha nah
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>>138303969
it's fucking pathetic because i can't even play ragnarok for longer than 2 days. it's just so shitty and dull without anyone to play with. and woe is just one huge joke now.
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>>138303687
It'll be really good with private servers.
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>>138303096
Is Cleric2 enough or should I go for Cleric3? It feels like it leaves very little room for other classes
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>>138304154

Cleric 2 is plenty
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>>138304067
Isnt that good?
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>>138303687
>hype
>ever
You should know by know that no game ever lives up to its hype and you'll feel apathetic once it shows.
Ganbatte!
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im so tired.. im so done with being disappointed by every single fucking game i play..

just give it to me straight.. should i play this game?
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>>138302783
good for Chaplain.
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>>138304148
give it 6 months, people will be frying out private servers just like ro back in 2008
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>>138304371
No. You'll feel it here too.
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>>138304371
do you want a cute themepark MMO with well-thought-out lore and not much else?
or are you looking at this game because it shares an aesthetic with Ragnarok Online?
Be prepared for disappointment if it's the latter.

MMOs are a dead genre but I can't let go
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>>138303025
>it makes you hit 2 more monsters.
nope. it depends on the AoE def ratio of the enemy.
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>>138304321
BnS did, that game actually rekindled my faith in games as far as PvP goes. I still play it just for the Arena, because it's that good.

Before BnS was I honestly didn't think I'd see a good MMO again. Now I try Tree of Savior and I'm like "whelp."
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>black desert is complete shit
>people praise it and hype it

>tree of savior is fun as fuck
>people shit on it
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>>138303882
Yes
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>>138304625
even still it would allow you to still hit 3 monsters.
I can see its potential.
>>138303025
>>138303142
thanks anons.
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>>138304371

m-maybe it's time to take a break and find a new hobby
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>>138304678
>bns
>good

jesus christ
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>>138304625
Could you explain more?
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>>138304679
Is BD that bad? Was thinking about trying it out.
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>>138304504

thank you

>>138304613

ive never played RO (i know shame on me). to be honest the only reason i saw interest in this game was because i was having bad runescape nostalgia and there arent many MMOs with a top-down view.. its a dumb reason but yeah. and i agree that they are a dying genre.. its saddening but so damn true. and yes i cant let go either
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>>138304679
Black Desert is good though, and it's managed well.

Tree of Savior is a decent game but it's bogged down by horrible decisions and amateur management. Of course people are shitting on it.

MMOs are as much a game as they are a service, if either part is lacking the community will provide feedback. It's the reason why some private servers sometimes surpass the official games themselves. (Older ones)
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>>138304859

its total trash
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>>138284181

This was a feature shown long long ago when the PvP Arena was first being made and not yet released if I recall correctly. People spectacting the match could comment and it would roll on screen like in niconicodouga yes.

I think the feature didn't make it to release but I've never spectated an arena game.
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>>138304502
I hope so because I'd rather have server owners who even remotely listen to feedback or consider holding back the shop, restrictions, or changing rates. Plus buffing specific mobs, maps, races like some servers used to in order to get people outta dungeons.
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>>138304371
just play final fantasy 14, it's the only good game out right now.
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>>138304371
I went into it because I read on /v/ it was shit and I was pleasantly surprised. First MMO to hook me in 5+ years. So maybe I just ruined it for you because you'll go in with good expectations. :~)
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>>138304679
I really enjoyed BD, I could buy it right now but this was literally cheaper. Probably will jump ship once I get tired of this game.
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>>138304856
BnS IS good. You hop MMOs every month and probably play games you would never even be interested in, so of course you don't like it.

You probably have negative opinions of every single game that has come out that isn't in the top 10.

>>138304859
BD is good but it caters to a certain taste, do your research and find out what you like.
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>>138304843

haha ive been there and done that many times in my life. i love to play music, pool, and go shooting.. but i love video games because after a long day at work with only a few hours to kill.. video games are the only thing to fill that spot... well.. that and drinking..
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>>138304909

>Black Desert is good though

if you like korean anime copy paste mmos sure
>>
>>138304679
>>138304909
I'm loving the hell out of this game's core but IMC is strangling it in the crib with all these fucking restrictions and shitty decisions.
>b-but korea!
Yeah. How's that working out?
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>>138304857
https://github.com/vyne1/tos-mechanics/blob/master/ToS Mechanics.pdf
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>>138303687
The problem with ragnarok is that playing it solo sucks and it's impossible to play with /vg/ because psor and smokie will shit out drama everywhere and absolutely kill the guild.
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>>138305008
I play it and can confirm that is false. Its more tedious than this. Its all dailies and one raid a week.
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>>138305106
Copy paste of what anon? What the fuck is it copying, there's no game like it on the market.
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>>138305013

lol. shit ill buy any video game nowadays just to pass the time with some enjoyment.. i just dont want to play for a few hours and never touch it again which is what has been happening for the past several years. the last MMO i can think of that hooked me was archeage but thanks to trion that ended quickly. before that was guild wars 2, and then wow.. i can never return to those titles.
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>>138305207
that's what a theme park is. and isn't tree of savior just dailies once you get to 120+? anyways, name a better mmo if you're so wise

>>138305162
then don't play with /vg/
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>Royal Mouse 4F
>Considering a teleport hack in order to 100% it
>>
>ugly wizard chick comes and KSes me
>Clerics, Swordsman all leave me

every time
dumb range cunts
>>
>>138279938
How shit are we talking about here exactly? I heard Quarrel Shooters, Musketeers, Cannoneers and Fletchers are still quite good at endgame.
>>
So is barbarian bad and if it is why?
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>>138305008
I would like FF14 and would still be playing it but the characters are fucking ugly. Straight up, fucking ugly characters. The only way to not look like disproportional freak of nature with a fubar'd face is to play a cat girl and I don't want to do that.

That and they dropped an expansion on it, so I've bought the game twice, and they want money again, and a monthly.. Ehh. No.
>>
How can I get rid of collection boxes on alt characters? I can't add them because I already have it, but I can't sell them either.
>>
>>138305393
You arent getting anywhere in ToS if you just login and do the daily.
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>>138305008
>Nothing to do but run Alexander or whatever the lastest meme raid is
good build
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>>138305464
then make a good looking character. i do agree with you on the price, though. the monthly sub is a bit too much for what the game is
>>
>>138305393
>then don't play with /vg/
soundest advice
/vg/ guilds are /soc/ tier
>ERP
>Blogposts
>Misused Memes
>Attention Sluts
>Circlejerking
>Cliques
>>
>>138304909
>Black Desert is good though
no gear
no avatars
no depth
no customization
no endgame
no optimization
i could go on and on
the combat is nice, and the runescape autism shit is nice, everything else is nonexistent
>>
>>138305708
they're truly cancer
>>
>>138305741
How do you expect me to respond to this? At least detail your points dude.
>>
>>138305741
B-B-BUT MUH GRAPHICS
>>138305474
collection is for your team.
One and Done.
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>>138305629
>bns
>pvp daily

>tos
>level, rp with kisses

>wow
>erp

>tera
>pvp

>gw2
>pvp

It's all the same shit. Who would've thought?
>>
>>138305629
Its Alexander Part 2 Electric Boogaloo where the final boss is a winged goblin mecha that literally plays silly 80s mecha anime music in the background and has silly mecha names for its moveset, but people eat it up like its perfect for FF lore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCWCPyxByg
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>>138305008
I unsub cause it's nothing but dailies and 5 hour story content after every patch.
>>
>>138305802
>>138305708
don't forget the reddit spies
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>>138305952
>playing ff for lore

my fucking god this general is retarded. i'm out, enjoy your silly game where you literally have to be a swordsman to lead a guild
>>
>>138302129
Lvl2 cards
>>
>ponpon branch

does this really exist? has anyone else found this shit?
>>
Tyla Monastery has got to be the most comfy map in the game
>>
>dungeon
>retards die a couple time then quit
>try to clear with 3 people but we have 2 clerics and a shitty highlander
>run out of time

MUH 600%
>>
Page 10 boys
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>>138299992
>the already low exp dungeon can be great exp if you get -600% exp :^)
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>>138306103

yes its a rare drop, farm around 500 and you will get one
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>>138306210
Just let it die
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>>138306053
>Main character has to be the leader
HOYLA SHIT!!!
>>
>>138306053
Yeah its almost as if STORYLINE and LORE are important in an RPG regardless of its MMO status. You fucking dunce. If any MMO needed good lore it should be the FF ones, and at least 11 took theirs seriously. FF14's is like some saturday morning cartoon shit at this point.

Note: I like the class requirement for Templar in ToS, but I do agree at least to the extent that it shouldn't be limited to the swordsman tree.
>>
>>138306032
Haha yeah, those reddit guys really want to get our goose. I hope they don't steal our virginity keeping secrets, or our ebin "im a fag" posts.
>>
>>138306195

I've done nothing but party finder dungeons and failed one ever because of some retarded BR and it was the 145 dungeon which is just long as fuck.
>>
>>138306021
>triple triad
>golden saucer
>feast/pvp
>ex trials
>level a class
>learn (e)rp
>craft
>gather

play the game you nigger
>>
>>138306210
>>138306370
go back to /dfog/
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>>138306243
You can't kill shit in the survival segment, which is where all the exp is, if you don't have a good group. So that 600% from the finder literally becomes 0%. It throws dozens of low hp mobs (each worth 5k exp a pop) at you and whenever you kill a bunch more spawn with zero downtime. It's ridiculously easy to get overrun by it but it's pretty good exp for very little time investment if your group can manage.
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>>138306464
You are a spy

nobody here would say goose
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I'm the only rebbit spy here! The rest are all phonies.
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>>138306375
>ff11

Didn't that game shut down because of how poor it did? Let it go, gramps.

>Yeah its almost as if STORYLINE and LORE are important in an RPG

FF6 had a train for a boss.
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>>138306464

I'm on to you, reddit spy. :^)
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>>138306486
Oh well all that artifical things that isn't related to combat besides ex trials that people wipe over and over cause they too retarded to learn mechanics.
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>>138306486
>Silly minigame
>Silly minigame
>Granted
>Pointless unless you want a horse/bird mount
>Leveling alts is not considered 'content' in any MMO
>No
>Granted
>Granted

The only thing they did right was crafting/gathering. Everything else just feels like a chore you login to do when its not raid night. The same problem most theme parks are struggling with. They need to add meaningful alternative methods of character progression.
>>
>>138305876
I know. My team already has the box in the Magic Association, but my alt picked the boxes up. Now they're stuck in my inventory.
>>
>>138306658
>Didn't that game shut down because of how poor it did? Let it go, gramps.

Yeah figures the people on this general talk about things they have no idea about.
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>>138306804
>Now they're stuck in my inventory.
ive thrown away duplicate boxes before
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>>138305008
B-but I'm taking a break from XIV to play ToS right now!

>>138306486
If you stuck with the game for any meaningful amount of time you would have already completed all of that. There is literally nothing for me to do aside from our weekly Midas Savage clears every Tuesday at 7pm and there won't be anything new to do for another 6 month. XIV is actually pretty shit when it comes to content, they spread themselves ridiculously thin to try and appease every niche even though they are already working with a skeleton crew so nothing gets down and what gets put out is always over with very quickly.
>>
>>138306901

>>138306901

>>138306901

migrate
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>>138306804
>Now they're stuck in my inventory.
you can discard then. just drag out of inventory.
simple and easy
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>>138306891
Why did it shut down, then? C'mon, anon. Tell me. Give me some citation.
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>>138306917
>>138306804
>>138305474
You should be able to just discard them.
Drag out of inventory.
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>>138307015
Anon FF11 is still running..
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Im at 161 now and cant find any quests to do.

How fucked am i, and can i get out of this hell?
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>>138307660
You are a retard
>>
Whats your point?
>>
>>138306486
I re-subbed to FFXIV a month after Golden Saucer came out. It was already dead.
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>>138303526
>It's a good thing that this game is so popular
>>popular

I have bad news for you m8...
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