/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

Musicfag here

I made a battle theme

https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/miscreant-menace

I'm hoping it'll work for a tense and climactic battle. Thoughts?

You can do it anon!
You can make a game!

Just curious, but in the summer I would have a ton of free time and would like to help people with their games, I really just want experience so you don't have to pay me or anything, just give credit IF I do any meaningful work for you. I don't want to contribute ideas, or try to change your game. I just want to work as though I was an employee of the guy.

Would anyone be interested in this?

I'm trying to replicate the first few steps of this http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/AAdonaac/20150903/252889/Procedural_Dungeon_Generation_Algorithm.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

and unity's damn collision boxes always get stuck if they're too close to one another. They only spread like the tutorial if they are close but not overlapping a lot.

Is there a fix for this?

>>138111194
If youre gonna shill your stuff at least have the decency to only do it once.

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Sorry to repost, didn't see thread was about to die.

Mockups for monster attack patterns, just wondering if they make sense to anyone else but me.

>>138111457
What stuff are you able to do?

>>138111551
Yeah I guess you're right.

Sorry. I get high on positive feedback sometimes.

Hey, Rape Island Dev, how did you implement timed blocks/hits into your system?

Nth for getting drunk with my girl tonight

>>138111709
Rape powers

>>138111592

At the time of summer I would be done with all computer science classes I would need to graduate, finishing a business minor over the summer.

So I'm decent at coding at the video game level, having taken classes like artificial intelligence, and graphics. I can't say I'm much of a composer but I do have a midi keyboard I've been messing. And have been teaching myself how to draw but I don't have a tablet or anything like that yet.

Post ideas you'd like to see tried out in MMOs. Anything that would help mix up the formula that they all seem to follow nowadays.

Personally I'd like to know if a video game economy could survive if there was a more or less fixed amount of gold in the world. The supply would slowly inflate from, I dunno, characters mining it or something, but there'd be no random gold on monster corpses unless the monster had killed something and picked it up.

>>138111551
YEAH AGDG IS SUPER SERIOUS WE ARE ALL ABOUT QUALITY CONTROL AND RULES HERE

>>138112260

Well how would you account for NPCs who have to be paid for stuff, like traveling, repairing, vendor like stuff? Does that money just go away? Also how do you stop a player from hoarding money then just quitting the game with their character intact.

Reminder that Game Maker: Studio is half price right now.

Reminder that they can tell if your game was made in a pirated version and you WILL be sued.

>>138111624
No worries, we all feel the same way. Nothing better than having someone tell you they like something you put time into.

Now that Im done ranting about my personal feelings I will give some feedback on your song.

The melodies were pretty catchy and I like the intrumentation. The song works as a battle theme. I have to say that Im not fond of the key change by the end of the loop. Key changes might work better in pop songs and songs that arent meant to be listened to on a loop and cause you hear the key change so often it kind of cheapens it a bit.

Also when making music that is supposed to be looped the rule of thumb is usually that you want the end of the loop and the start of the loop to be as close in dynamics as possible. If the loop ends with a bang and it starts again with a fizzle its super easy to hear the loop point and the music will get tedious more quickly.

Maybe Im just preaching to the choir but there you go

>>138112803
The awareness of looping is definitely something that separates great game music from good/ok game music. When composing you have to assume infinite repeats and compose that way.

How does the first note sound? How does it sound second time through? Third? ... How does it sound after time has passed and another battle comes up?

I love the fuck out of Pillars of Eternity, and for the most part the music is fantastic, but some of the battle music is almost a little too... intense? Battley? So on its own it's a great piece of music, but on repeat it starts to wear on me.

>>138112597
I dunno, thats why I want to test it out. Maybe have it structured so that there's simulated cashflow between vendors. Like a potion seller would have to buy his materials from the same vendor that the players buy their potion crafting materials from. That'd also have the effect of making some areas poorer then others naturally, instead of by developer interference, and giving the players the ability to do some jewing themselves, both of which people seem to like. As far as players quitting with fat stacks in their inventory, I'd have to talk to my buddy in economics. He'd probably start talking about tensors and shit.

>few hours later
>progress buried under shitpost
>three times in a week
I've tried, you can't blame me about that.

I think I'll migrate to reddit and the screenshot saturday thing.

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>>138111709
I have an "action input" object that handles timed hits. During the attack animation it creates the "action input" object and sets the input time window, position of the 'visualization' (i.e. the shrinking circle that lets you know when to press the button) and a script to run that handles the result of the action input.

The "action input" object then counts down the input time window (e.g. if a 1 second time window @ 60 FPS would mean it counts down from 60 over 60 steps). If you press the input key during this time, it stores the current countdown as your "last input time" and ignores any input for a while (e.g. until the countdown - lastInputTime > n).

Once the countdown reaches 0 it checks your last input time and compares it to the timed hit thresholds (e.g. "nice" is 6 steps or 1/10 of a sec, "good" is 12 steps or 1/5 of a sec). It then displays the "NICE"/"GOOD"/"BAD" text, plays a sound, etc. and finally runs the script that you originally passed in (and passes an argument to the script for whether it was nice/good/bad/etc). The script handles the action itself (e.g. if it's an attack it deals damage, if it's the 'identify monster' move it identifies, etc).

>>138112260
goodle communist zombie mmo

>>138113264
I think that its important to have "rests" in your songs too where your ears can "recover" cause in a lot of battle themes the music has to be fast and intense to set the mood and after a while that will get pretty annoying to listen to.

The only example I could think of right now at the top of my head is this song

https://youtu.be/ooZyHLLQ5e8

Even though its very intense its still has a few low dynamic moments so that its not just 100% at all times. Plus the breaks makes the intense parts even more effective.

Its all about keeping the ear interested for a long time. If your melodies are catchy too than that is of course a giant plus.

Does anyone know how much it costs to have your game ported by a third party to a different platform?

I guess it depends on the length of the code, the similarity of the languages and the renown of the studio among other things, but with those variables in mind, how much can it be?

Like how much per line for a nobodies studio?

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The FlounderBass! Its been finished! This gun took me 2 days (1 for concept to uv unwrap, colored today!). Now to figure out how to make a model equip this and..ah jeez.

If I keep making models I wont have to look at programming again will I haha? HAha?

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>>138114137
great job anon!

>>138113449
Sounds like a fun experiment. If you've got experience in linear algebra and ODEs, these might help with the math side of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZqwi0wJovM&index=23&list=PLE7DDD91010BC51F8&nohtml5=False

And the following one (Lecture 24) is on Markov matrices which could also be helpful.

Reminder that Godot is free forever.

Reminder that it's MIT licensed so you can do whatever you want with it and never give them a single dollar.

Reminder that you don't need to sign up for an account to use Godot, you just use it.

>>138114264
No. Thank YOU for my monthly dopamine injection. Welp, the unity QA board should have answers I need.

>>138114268
I'd need to make an MMO that's actually fun enough to consistently hold the attention of a large number of people if I wanted to test this out. Which could take a long, long while.

>>138113934
This looks quite neat. That extremely specific name is probably why I've never stumbled on it.

>>138111194
This is breddy gud. I didn't like that first 4.5 ish second section, and that instrument you had playing immediately afterwards sound unnecessarily filtered or something.

>>138112307
I dont think public opinion on something will change after just an hour or two so asking again is unneccesary

>>138114297
Does anyone have that image of different engines/languages and indie dev being buttered toast?

Godot would be a glass shard.

ded

>>138114297
fuck their python bullshit

>>138114537
The whole point of setting up a model is so that you can test your system, see the "steady state solution" (at time = inf), see what happens when you add a periodic "force" (maybe production up in summer season, etc).

Even if you have some random players who happen to keep their attention on your game, that's a bad way to test the system because if it's broken, they leave. Sorry but that seems like you're setting yourself up for failure.

>>138113801
your game needs to have cute girls or lewds to get any response here

if you insist here is a little tip, don't actually post progress. post stuff like "how does this weapon look?" or "how is this juice?". the average IQ in here is grade school level so you need to frame your posts as basic questions people can instantly respond to, no one wants to actually think and give constructive criticism

>>138111194
This is really good. The other anon was right about the beginning being weak (I get what you were trying to do with the "start slow" thing but there's something off about it).

Also the main instrument sounds muffled somehow? Might be intentional but maybe try experimenting with different instruments/samples/whatever. It sounds fine in the main part of the song but when it's solo at the beginning it sticks out.

>>138115843
Reddit is also quite literally worthless. Tried posting my stuff on /r/gamedev a few times and the respones I got can be boiled down to

>Looks good :) Now give me attention on MY project

>>138115634
Im more interested in what will happen when I just leave it alone and dont exert my godlike power over the game. Im not too interested in how the NPC world would fare, because an easy sim could tell me that. The whole point was to what the players as a group would do with it.

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>>138116065
>>Looks good :) Now give me attention on MY project

>>138112260
That wouldn't work. If the game got popular, then you would be unable to resist the bribes from the Chinese gold farmer cartels to scrap the system.

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>>138116065
>Expecting reciprocal feedback is unreasonable

>>138114808
I think you mean Godot would be an actual butter knife.

>>138116420
The point was that the "feedback" was quite literally worthless and it was all a contest for the most attention while trying to seem as modest and friendly as possible.

>>138116420
Looks good :) is garbage feedback

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I love when I see whiny babies complain about quality right next to good quality.

Yes, agdg is mostly bad, but if you have your expectations callibrated, it's a fantastic place. Lots of helpful information, advice and feedback given here.

>but I want attention nowwwwww!!! ;_; I'm going to reddit
Good job! :)

>>138111556
I don't get it

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>everything wrong with indie devs in one image

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>>138116420

>>138117000
that's got to be satire
nice trips

>>138116885
It kind of bothers me given all the effort I put into replying to progress

>>138117070
I think it is, but goddamn, I've never seen satire so indistinguishable from reality.

>>138117000
>checked
I laughed pretty hard, please tell me this is real.

>>138112669
Reminder that STOP SHILLING YOU PIECE OF SHIT CORPORATE KEK

>>138117130
It sounds like you have a bad case of tittybabyism. I suggest you stop being a tittybaby.

Adjust your progress posting if it's not working for you. Like someone else said, ask direct questions, use it partly as a short devdiary "today I blahblah, check it out", etc.

Also adjust your replies to progress, because apparently you feel that doing so entitles you to feedback of your own. This appears to be a symptom of your tittybabyism, so clearing that up should help here too.

>>138112803
I think key changes are great for looped music as long as you keep it subtle. It can help prevent it from being boring without the listener realising it. I haven't experimented with it that much though.

>>138116984

Ah shit. What's giving you trouble? I'll be sure to make it right. Are the exact movements in the monster patterns unclear? Or something else?

>>138117884
>progress posting
???

>>138118268
>start on tonic
>stuff
>changes key
>stuff
>loop returns you to tonic
I don't do any music programming, but I could see even more interesting things happening, such as having meta-info influence the music (like, random thought, having a battle shortly after a previous battle would set off some other aspect of the music, introducing muted instruments as health gets low, ...)

So hows your game coming along?
What's your current, specific obstacle?

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>>138118705
I'm trying to make a sun-themed wisp and I cant make anything that looks good

>>138118312
The blue numbers made the order of panels very confusing. I don't understand what's the purpose of feint either

>>138118886
Wisps but yellow and physical indication of radiating more light than usual?

>>138118705
finishing my parser so I can work on my compiler so I can work on my engine so I can work on my game

>>138118705
Figuring out how to program
Also deciding an idea every time I wake up I want to make a different game

>>138119120
>so I can work on my compiler
language dev in /agdg/?
I think I remember you unless we have two.
I'd like to see some example code.
>>138119127
What language you learning?
Design doc all your ideas, see which survive.

>>138119227
C++
>Design doc all your ideas, see which survive.
Might work. Will try.

>>138118705
myself

Game where the main character becomes a submissive slut to the main villain.

>>138118705
learning to draw so i can bring my characters to life

i'm very unsatisfied with the games i have made up until now

>>138119974
MGQ?

>>138119974
>>>/aco/491533

>>138120340
>all that good art
;_;

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>shittily sketching trying to come up with a normal attack

>can't stop going ham as fuck

Some challenges are extremely unexpected

>>138118642
>introducing muted instruments as health gets low
That sounds pretty cool. I don't see much of this stuff being tried out in modern games.

>>138120162
I never finish MGQ.
But I mean trap slut.
http://imgur.com/uw7eAIb
>>138120340
I mean a game that actively use art assets, although I'm not too sure if the games in those threads do or not.

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>>138119043
I want them to look like mini suns, normal wisps look like this. The sun wisps are supposed to be like buffed up wisps

New battle themes, for the game's big bad

Phase 1: https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/we-are-here
Phase 2: https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/the-third-ancient-march

>>138120610
How do the regular wisps look in motion?

>>138120549
Didn't Spec Ops do a disorientation effect like it?
I know one recent-ish AAA game did.

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>>138118975

Aha! Okay, let me explain.

The blue numbers indicate that all the panels with that number are a part of the same sequence. So both of these enemies have two different attacks each. I wrote down SFX to indicate that in sequence 2 for each enemy, their attack would include a feint, which is basically the enemy trying to bait you into blocking too early, which leaves you open to their more powerful attack.

To make that more clear, I have removed the blue numbers and instead drew lines connecting related panels together.

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>>138121008
They don't have a walk animation or anything, they just float around healing things

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Reposting progress with sound

http://neetdev.tumblr.com/post/142437282282/the-new-catacomb-like-arena-will-be-used-until-the

>>138121376
It's all clear now. Sounds nice.

>>138111194
Sick as hell

>>138121620
Then maybe try making them a little larger, making them rotate CCW, and coloring them white and yellow and give them another trail emission?

And possibly recolor the blue wisps red for the weakest color fire.

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>>138110958

I don't know how you guys do it. I love art, but I hate any career that has to do with art.

I find it really hard, for example, to work with the completely banal video game industry. So many games these days are complete dogshit.

Even if you "make it", whether you're an artist or game designer, you'll likely work on AAA trash like Battleborn, League of Legends, Call of Duty, Far Cry, Assassin's Creed instead of tasteful titles like Witcher, Dark Souls, The Division, Battlefleet Gothic, Dishonored etc.

>>138122314
Doing game design for LoL seems fun

Help me /agdg/ what am I missing to become the next phil fish?
I haven't shaved in a week, currently wearing glasses and just did coke off some cheap hookers ass. Also I will steal shit from all the ideaguys here.

>>138122314
Those are both AAA money makers pretty much, i don't see your point. You'll be texturing barrels or modeling lamp posts either way artfag.

Anyone want any music written?
I mainly play guitar and write guitar shit but I want to branch out.

https://soundcloud.com/miaandmonaco/heavy-process

https://soundcloud.com/miaandmonaco/10th-messing-with-sounds

https://soundcloud.com/miaandmonaco/guitar-nonsense

https://soundcloud.com/miaandmonaco/never-stop

>>138121821
Thanks anon!

>>138111556
It looks like you're doing exactly what I'm doing: Audio cues to differentiate monster attacks (well, I have audio and visual cues).
Question: What can the player do about them? Is this action based like the gba/ds superstar saga mario games?

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https://instaud.io/mDZ

I made something like this not so long ago. Primarly, this was battle theme for my aerial combat game but I doubt I finish it. And it's sounds like something from the 90s.

>>138118705
Bresenham's algo for roguelike lighting kill me

aware me on the criticisms of Godot

>>138124626
"It's shit"

>>138122848
>You'll be texturing barrels or modeling lamp posts either way artfag.
this actually isn't that bad if you have a nice work environment and job security

sadly the AAA industry is not comfy at all and job security is shit

>>138124626
You have to waste time learning a language that can only be used with it.

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>ask a friend of mine, who is a major in CS, what he honstly thinks about my game
>he says I should just stop because my game is shit.

>>138124626
>aware me on
Pajeet get your tech support elsewhere.

>>138123068
I'd really think about loopability. Good composition of a song is not the same as good composition in game music. I love the little melody in the first one, but I'd quickly get tired of it. Second is nice and atmospheric, but also that's the easiest sort of thing to loop. Third is fun and has a good kind of "structure" for game music (bweep-bweeps of various kinds, with occasional pauses and additional stuff). I dunno about the 4th one, not sure what kind of game it would go with.

You weren't asking for feedback but I gave it anyhow HA. From a song-music standpoint I like your style.

I'm interested in techniques for videogame music that are more complicated than playing an mp3 in the background, I like thinking about that stuff. Like if song is A->B->C->A->B->C->A... in structure, having like a probability that instead of B it'll go to B' which is a variation on B, that sort of thing.

>>138121650
great atmosphere

loved the wavy goal effect

>>138124829
What did agdg say about your game? You did show it didn't you?

>>138124220
It doesn't really stand out but I like it.

>>138122314
>Dark Souls
>Tasteful
Dark souls was sloppy as fuck, even the first one. It's one of the most ideaguyish games I've ever played. I'm not saying I disliked it, but it certainly wasn't developed with care for anything other than "I THOUGHT UP THIS COOL GUY WITH A GIANT SWORD AND-" etc.

>>138124906
>Pajeet getting tech support
meta

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>>138124829

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>>138125114

What are some games you would consider both creative and genuinely good?

Would love to hear your opinion.

>>138120546
i love design docs like this

>>138125354
Me too. I always wonder about amateur gamedev notepads with doodles and diagrams.

daily reminder to collab

>>138124220
that reminds me of my sister. haha

>>138125353
Not him.
Metroid Prime.
Great music.
Solid art direction.
Timeless graphics.
Juice done right.
story through environment successfully.
One of the best 2d-3d transitions.

>>138120631
Nice, but hard to judge without seeing the boss / boss fight.

>>138125353
I definitely wouldn't knock dark souls 1 off that list

The last games I played that I really liked were the hotline miami series, though the first game had bad problems with mask meta and weapon luck.

>>138125598
>Metroid Prime.
I was always amazed at how much fun I had playing that game in spite of the fact that it's control set up was kinda retarded. It beat DS1 jumping though.

i feel like shitposting m8s

>>138125580
I want to fuck your sister

decided to get disability finally

forever NEET i guess

>>138125103
>What did agdg say about your game? You did show it didn't you?

agie dagie says its okay, I did get more positive feedback than negative

Still it hurts

>>138126040
>Didnt get disability as soon as eligible

You suck at being a neet

>>138126236
>Still it hurts
Why?
CS majors opinions mean literally nothing.
It's astounding how little can actually program.

The Sisad at my work is literally the biggest bro there is and has embarrassed himself on basic knowledge on more than one occasion.

Peepee where is my qt/lewd girl mate

>>138126040
sucks having a work history and never being eligible for this

>>138126290
i guess. i actually tried to not be a robot.

truth is i always was and always will be

>>138126290
>>138126040

how do you become eligible

do you need a legitimate illness like autism or something

I'm only a fat fuck with anger issues lel

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Hey, there's a game dev thread on /v/ right now! Why don't we share the love? Lets link /v/ and /agdg/ so we can all make games together!

>>>/v/333658797

:)

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Do you think the hotel blocks are cool/okay? I just painted a vulcano in the back because I want to have a vulcano erupt in the last lap(if I am able to do so)

The hotel model/textures are placeholders atm.

>>138126991
oh, i am a total mess. autism and depression and a million other things

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I made it walk.

>>138127249
Why is it walking backwards while facing forwards?

>>138122314
>The Division
Also, don't shit on Battleborn. It's one of the few modern games that earns its pricepoint. Full single-player campaign with optional co-op, loads of content, no microtransactions, plenty of gamemodes, huge cast of unique characters and abilities, competitive multiplayer, geniuninely fun, it's got it all. Where as Overwatch has even less content but it's Blizzard and heavily marketed. Just because Randy Pitchford exists doesn't mean everyone else should get shat on at Gearbox.

And not every game needs to be a work of art, just like how not every movie is an award winning film. It's ok to watch Direct to DVD movies, they aren't stopping people from making artsy films, they have their own audience. AAA games can have great art direction, not sure why you're shitting on LoL, they're art style is constantly improving and they're updating the old amature-looking garbage from when they first started out. All the games you listed as garbage look great and have tight, responsive controls for the most part.

>>138127021
That same thread gets posted all the goddamn time. I am sure its someone who used to lurk here.

>>138127374
walking forward,facing backwards*

I have no idea what to make
I want to make something like an action infinite runner but cant come up with any way to make it interesting

Give me some simple but fun 2D side scrolling ideas please

>>138127436
It's the person who only posts mspaint drawings of astronauts/trees. He's always in the /v/ thread and never visits here anymore (presumably because he was chased off for not posting real progress).

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>>138127021
>mfw there are some old ass projects still alive... they're just on /v/ rather than /agdg/

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Now what?

>>138127643
Like who?
Besides the rectangles with frame counters inside. I remember him vaguely.

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>>138127942

>>138128016
Must have been when I took a break from /agdg/.

>>138127942
the person making that 3d game with the neon/bloomy grass and a black landscape

haven't seen them here in a while

>>138128126
>haven't seen them here in a while
He still posts here.

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>>138125503
>>138125354

not having to worry about being relatively high quality is great for brainstorming

The hard part is picking what to actually use

>>138128126
He posted here just yesterday...

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progress lol

What is the best /agdg/ game? What is the worst?
And I'm only talking about games that are currently being made or were just recently finished, not something like Risk of Rain.

>>138124942
Wow man i really appreciate the feedback, i wasn't expecting any sort of response.
I could definitely branch out into a more "gamey" style and structure/lack of. If you want anything written i could give it a shot and you could give some advice, tips, etc.

>>138128657
Stop trying to start shit.

>>138128539
Who is this guy? Just someone who posts the same picture over and over again?

What an epic prankster

>>138128539
JESUS FUC-- Jesus fucking christ!
What is this garbage!?

Do people really post trash like this thinking that it's proper progress?

>>138128539
What is this trash?

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>>138128539

>>138128539
Garbage. Absolute Garbage.

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>>138128539
I don't get this meme

>>138127167
Maybe try varying the texture between the two different sizes. It looks a bit strange.
Hell yes to the volcano

>>138125051
thanks

>>138128539
Trash!

>>138128539
I knew you were here the second some worthless faggot started bragging about being on welfare because he's a depressed autist. As if we didn't already know you're a bum.

>>138128539
Absolute fucking garbage. Why would someone make this? Why would someone feel that this is appropriate to post!?

One day the FBI will hear my complaints and have this man killed. This terrorist will be destroyed, one day... One day...!

>sourcefam has been wallowing in his own piss and misery for over 9 months replying to himself and starting random offtopic conversations to get his dopamine fix
>rotatedev has started camwhoring on /soc/ as a tranny to get his dopamine fix
These guys actually thought they had a place in gamedev at some point.

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Anyone do animations? I need a walk cycle for this shitty bug for my shit game

Six minutes :)

>>138128126
He posted just now
>>138129894

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Miner ghost.

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>>138129830
>implying you aren't fully mentally destroyed right now
You really don't get it do you mate? You're as broken as anyone could have ever hoped to make you.

Have fun with your ebin shitposting, you're really teaching us and your "friends" who laughed at your shitty gmod maps a lesson :^)

>>138128539
that's trash. whoever made that is trash

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>>138129894

Why are real actual terrorists allowed here?

daily reminder that being good at art is a talent and not a skill

>>138130152
Where the fuck is your game, furfag!?

>>138128539
Let's do a little experiment here agdg... how many times has sourcefam posted this image of his gmod map in order to "false flag" shitpost at it for hours on end?

The answer may surprise you, right after a short commercial break.

Terrorists!!

This thread is being constantly ruined, why is that?

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>>138130989

>>138128539
im vomiting irl desu

>>138130623
And the answer?

For this particular variation of source.png he's posted it over 20 times.

https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/image/MQpnOFT8-UhB-vO1PzJLGg/

For another, 11 times!

https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/image/l-oDay5PjUvxqlt_1d6faw/

Imagine the mental state of someone who bullies their own work with false flag shitposting over 31 times. If we were to look up all the other variations he's posted, we'd see that he's been at this for over 7 months and has posted the same image over 67 times in order to bully himself and shitpost agdg.

Truly amazing to watch this level of psychosis in a person who actually thought he had the right to bully other gamedevs.

Let's watch as the freakshow continues!

>>138128714
I don't need anything right now, I'm a useless nodev who can't get started on his game, so I just try to give feedback when I'm around.

But if you just want a random idea, how about some weather-channel style light jazz muzak?

If you like the idea of the A->B->C->... but randomly going to B' or B'' or C' instead thing, I'm interested in thinking about how that would work. I guess one thing for sure is that A, A', A'', ... would have to mix nicely with whatever comes before and after, and same with the B's and C's of course.

http://setosa.io/ev/markov-chains/ this is kind of the idea. I'm sure markov chains have been used in music before, but I just have no experience with any of it.

So like, for these purposes, some middle node has say 50% chance of going to M and 50% chance going to M'. And at M, say 1/3 chance N, 1/3 N', and 1/3 N'', stuff like that. So to do that, you'd have to have M and M' which mix well with N, N', and N''.

Maybe this is an interesting way to get variation, or maybe it will sound like shit, who knows.

>>138131069
>Know Your AGDG - Part 1
post the rest

I have no trouble with making maps, but I'm not sure how many different ones to make... I want to make a 5-10 hour RPG, are there any estimates or guideline about area to length ratio? I just don't want my game to seem too repetitive

>>138128539
this is proof that art is a talent. the guy that made this spent 200+ hours practising his art and still couldn't put together something acceptable

>>138128539
Fuck! I'm hurt by this post. I'm actually injured. This has hurt me. I feel hurt by that post existing.

>>138130989
We have nothing else to talk about

>>138131190
That's actually really sad. I would feel bad for sourcefam if he wasn't such a ponce who had to take his frustration out on agdg.

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>>138129496

I just thought the hotel building looked pretty neat in this pic even though it doesnt look as good in my attempt at recreating it. I'll definitely try to make a vulcano though.

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>>138128539

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New mob for some rpg/elevator-operating simulator.

Need your best clock/time puns for attacks/abilities.

>>138131337
I like your idea man, i'll be back with variations and new ideas!

>>138128539
Absolutely Disgusting.

>>138131190
Even more fun you can see how many times he's spammed the same reaction images to the same shitpost. He's truly a black hole of hopelessness and shitposting. All because mothdan broke his mind.

>>138131610
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/image/l0UhqgbZfUvSHEuz9-Ih2Q/

>>138131190
Shut up shitfam, we all know it's just you trying to cover for your own terrible "work!"!
When are you going to learn that you're not welcome here at all!? Fuck off with your garbage Full Sail nonsense.

>>138130152
I can do it but...eh

>>138131719
Have fun, I hope it's useful! I think it sounds fun too, makes me sort of wish I hadn't sold my moog so many years ago.

>>138131715
where'd you rip that clock from?
I want to say Fosters Home, but I think it's another show.

>>138128539
Thread Ruined

>>138128539
What is this
Is it dev?

It doesn't look like dev.

>>138131190
And for each time he posts his gmod screenshot he samefags it about 5-10 times on average (sometimes as much as 25 times) so he's shitposted about 400-600 times... this isn't even taking into account how much aimless angry shitposting he does on the side. He's had almost daily meltdowns of shitposting since last summer.

In sourcefam we really might have one of the most mentally ill shitposters on 4chan.

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>>138128539

>>138128539
Gross.
How is this dev, again?

>>138132072
I think my art guy got it from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtkGtXtDlQA

>>138128539
Disgusting.

>>138132720
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/image/V-yH4xnrFfWQarhzT8pddA/

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>>138128539
groce

Coming up on 30 samefags everyone. Is sourcefam going for a new record?

Remember, he sees this as "getting back" at us for telling him to fuck off with his drunken slopwork in hammer and his sob stories about how his friends rightfully told him his """"level design""""" is shit.

You feeling sorry for him yet? :^) I'm not.

>>138128539
Disgusting!

Reminder that nothing stops whatever this is, just leave /agdg/ for awhile.

I don't know or care about the drama, it's just a swamp of shit, but one thing I do know, is that these episodes can go on for quite awhile.

Good excuse to get back to work, have good progress yesdevs

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>>138133331
Jackpot.

You've posted the variation of this image 38 times.

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/image/YKl0iZ7uH_smmCgwG6bUjg/

You can even see all your retarded """"game designer""""" dropout opinions tied to this reaction image. They're almost as shitty as your level design :p

Keep dancing monkey! Ooo Eee Ahh Ahh!

Why does the thread get destroyed every time Source gets posted?

>>138133562
Why do you think Source is okay to post?

>>138122314
>Even if you "make it", whether you're an artist or game designer, you'll likely work on AAA
thats not making it, that wageslave wagecuckoldry
getting a job is not ever "making it".

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I have to stay up and take care of a coffin.
Literal graveyard shift.
Anyone looking for some music? I can't do a lot in this crappy netbook, but can probably pull off some nice lo-fi tunes

>>138133562
>these episodes can go on for quite awhile.
It's not just that he does it for hours on end, he's been doing it almost daily for over 9 months.

Don't let him run you out of agdg, just throw some peanuts at him and laugh. It's all he's ever been good for anyway.

I applied for a janitor position the other day.

If I get the job would I be allowed to delete-on-sight that stupid (You) bait picture, or is that technically allowed? I don't know what sort of oversight 4chan has for janitors.

>>138133650
It's one guy replying to himself.

>>138133562
What the fuck is wrong with you that you think any part of this is okay?

>>138133827
How do you get a job at a graveyard, been meaning to get into that kind of job for research for a game.

Six minutes :)

>>138133852
You just replied to him unfortunately.

>>138133846
I think technically a post needs to be reported at least once before you can delete it if it's not x-rated or something.

The disturbing thing is that agdg will never be rid of him. He's like a baby who never grows up and will be shitting himself and stinking up the place forever.

Even rotate learned to give up eventually, but this guy is even more pathetic than rotate.

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>>138133846
I think you'd get nothing but support for cleaning this place up. Never in all my years of channery have I seen such rampant and destructive shitposting. It's rather amazing.

>>138133796
>>138133940
And then they do this "I know it's you!!!" anon 101 stuff. It's really really ridiculous, but it invariably ruins the thread. It really is best to just leave for awhile, until the shitstorm wears itself out, or we have better moderation.

Four minutes :)

>>138133639
>DROPPED
>literal shit
How do people this fucking worthless even exist? It's one thing to be a shitposter it's another to be a shitposter who can't even make a game in source and has to terrorize a message board because of it with his constant shitposting and negative replies to progress.

This cunt should literally hang himself.

>>138134021
I don't work here, I'm just migrating the graveyard's database to a newer system, and have to be awake in case it fails again it's failed 4 times already
And the table the computers sit on is literally a broken coffin.

I don't think it's hard to get a job here, though. You just have to be a bit of a psycho, but not too psycho

Three minutes :)

>>138134404
Thats me :^)

Two minutes :)

Eight minutes :)

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>>138134270
He's always been triggered by being called out for being depressed. He is aggressive because he's depressed. He was the inspiration behind multiple mentally ill agdg poster archetypes.

It's not hard to imagine someone like him drinking himself to death or taking pills at some point. Hopefully he realizes his life is a dead end and gets it over with soon.

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How do I win at making game with all odds against me?

>>138134904
stop thinking and just do it.

>>138134342
Don't worry, you'll join the dead soon :)

>>138134980
can't wait desu

Sixty seconds :)

boom
Boom

CRASH

This general is really bad.

Terrorists!

>>138135150
BUDDY YOU'RE A BIG BOY MAKE A BIG NOISE PLAYIN IN THE STREETS GONNA BE A BIG GUY FOR YOU

>>138135380
It's not like it's better anywhere else. /nosg/ was just as terrible

>jewish """"""""""""""""""""bantz"""""""""""""""""""""

>>138135493
Quick! post game development! that's their one weakness!

oh wait

>>138135380
Because of YOU, shitfam!

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Progress. Not much though.
What kind of weapon to give mister Beardy?
Chainsaw? Poker? Zweihander? Axe?
What do?

LMAO U BLOOD ON YOUR FACE
FUKKEN BIG DISGRACE
was this a part of your plan?

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>>138131351
Here you go. I'll spare AGDG a 10 part spam.
http://imgur.com/a/0oql0

>>138135892
Axe for MAXIMUM BRUTALITY

>>138135892
Something that isn't a weapon but looks treathening in this context will probably be the best.
I'd go with a drill.

>>138135892
R E P O S T

>>138135380
It's entertaining when you know you're directly responsible for someone having daily mental breakdowns but I empathize for the rest of you. You can't enjoy watching this like I can.

>>138135892
Shut the fuck up, shitfam/blake/danny/gogem

>>138135892
Meat Clever

>>138135941
>didn't even make these
>keeps reposting them
lmao

>>138136113
Man you've been saying that for a long time. I have no interest in the drama, it reminds me of shit from when I was a teenager. Feeling smug about derailing a thread on an anonymous imageboard, wow man, that does sound fantastic. You are like some kind of mastermind right?

>Tfw game deving is too difficult to make your own unique game idea you had in mind

>>138135892
I dunno gut reaction says "meat cleaver" Which probably means it's too obvious.

What about... a pig

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>>138128539
gross

>>138136556
It must not be a very good idea if even the guy who came up with it doesn't think it's worth doing.

>>138127167
No, they look like sad grey commieblocks.
On a sidenote, many places aiming at tourists ban high buildings near beaches. Better add some foliage. A forest, palms, etc.

>>138136556
Gamedev is easy, you just need discipline (a knowledge problem, not a willpower problem) and time.

>>138135892
A bloody rusty handaxe.

a surgeon axe and a shock baton

>>138136784
I assessed game deving and it will require such extreme effort and extreme motivation to make a good game and so much time it's not worth it

>>138136893
Ok. Bye!

>>138128539
...Why would you post this?

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There were a couple of people the other day who'd asked me about 3D stuff and if I had a tutorial, does anyone still want me to make that? I could get it done tomorrow, I'll probably ask again in the morning. I know there were a couple of people who were bad enough for me to help. Pic related if you want to judge me or something. I'm now considering removing the middlemost loop to merge those middle blue bands. Might squish it down a little upon doing so.

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I'm still convinced that you should do something about him. That's around 20 posts ruined for an 257 existing thread, and I did not bother to read the rest of the thread but I'm pretty sure that he's probably making all kind of shitty attempts.

Not like that I care about agdg anymore at this point but I'm just laughing at idiots thinking that the place is good.

>>138136409
>Man you've been saying that for a long time.
I never imagined he would be broken for this long. It pleases me.
>Feeling smug about derailing a thread on an anonymous imageboard
No, I'm smug because I shook someone up to the point that they do this >>138128539
>You are like some kind of mastermind right?
Ask Blake.

>>138137070
If it's so bad, why don't you leave?
Also your post is as bad as his.

>>138136791
>axe
I meant saw

>>138137104
I think you missed a part of my post
>I have no interest in the drama, it reminds me of shit from when I was a teenager.
Nobody gives a shit, you just want a chatroom, or what? Don't we have IRC/steamchat for containing this kind of bullshit?

>>138137053
>take a look at this unfinished piece to judge me
wut

>>138137070
There's honestly nothing that can be done. Like with rotate you just have to hope he eventually gives up on trying to "get back" at agdg. Let's not forget that just like sourcefam, rotate spent 8 months straight shitposting about danny before he decided to just give up on gamedev altogether and be a tranny for attention. Sourcefam may be on a similar path, only time will tell.

>>138137275
>If it's so bad, why don't you leave?
Many people do. Or at the very least they stop posting progress or wanting to have anything affiliating them with agdg.

>>138137275
>If it's so bad, why don't you leave?
I just did as far as my game is concerned.
You're probably the one behind the shit and my reply probably makes you think that you won or something, but like I said I don't care anymore at this point.

Stay in your shit and keep on thinking that you're a big shot for ruining a 4chan thread.

>>138137053
Shut the fuck up, nodev piece of shit.

>>138137516
It's about as far as I'd be willing to explain anything

Reminder to report low quality posts.

I was supposed to go out with my game but we might stay in and have aggressive drunk sex why does she keep changing the plans like this

>>138137452
You and I are both reacting to psychotic shitposting, we're not the ones doing it. You don't need to tell me you don't care about the drama, I totally understand. I just happen to be amused because I destroyed someone's mind to the point that they behave like this for almost a year straight. Who knows, maybe in another year he'll still be doing it? Seems very possible.

>>138137516
Shut up Blake, you piece of shit. You think anyone cares? lol.

>>138137548
I totally understand and respect that. I just don't see why people who don't care about this place anymore keep shitposting in here ruining it for the ones that still do.

>>138137591
>I just did as far as my game is concerned.
Good for you, can you please stop helping with the ruining of the thread?
>You're probably the one behind the shit and my reply probably makes you think that you won or something, but like I said I don't care anymore at this point.
No, I'm not. But if you don't care just stop posting. Go away. If you're not posting progress or advice or whatever, you're as bad as the shitposters.

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>>138137712
Thisx1000000

>>138137815
Where is your game?

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r8 my square

>>138137831
Wow yes that is really amusing. Totally sick bro, lmao, epic win, great contribution to the thread, I had a great time reading it. We're really good friends.

Does that satiate your need for socialization? Will you go away now?

This subreddit is so mean guys stop being so rude to each other

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I can't believe I didn't think to use GtkRadiant for blocking out levels sooner. I feel like I'm in high school again. Comfiness level: Maximum

>>138137591
So wait... Do you not have a game? Why are you posting here if you have no game?

>>138137908
>I just don't see why people who don't care about this place anymore keep shitposting in here ruining it for the ones that still do.
Literally mental illness. Sourcefam has bewildered us all for a good long while but most of us have accepted that he's genuinely mentally cracked. He aggressively shitposted and bullied devs here (and still does) until he got bullied back and it made him snap like a wild animal. There's no point trying to understand a wild animal.

Anyway, back to gamedev. People discussing him is what he wants. Time to ignore.

>>138138061
Nice!

>>138138225
So wait, where is your game in this post? I don't see a game in your post.

>>138138225
Whoa there, bro. This is a thread for progress. Where is the progress in your post? Do you even have a game? Where is your game?

>>138138183
I don't know what I'm looking at, but whatever it is is cool anon.

>>138138225
We all have games on Steam, here. Before I take you seriously, I have to see yours. Where is your game?

>>138136370
>triggered

What do you think the ratio is in /agdg/, of people who work on gamedev, vs people who are just lonely and need conversation?

>>138138225
I see you learned how to 4chin finally, but it still shows that you're really new here.

>>138135892
Meathook on a chain

>>138138742
>ratio
50% gamedev, 100% lonely

>>138138183
Wow! Looks way cooler than Source. What is it?

Shhhh. Just stop. There is no way you can "win". I own you.

>>138138742
Super crude estimation going off general IP count / Recap Mondays (plus a few to account for dudes who boycott it):

Something like 35% yesdevs.

>>138139428 is a nodev

>>138138929
yes me too i love s h i t p o s t i n g but i gotta ask where your game is at tho

>>138139186
True.

Post progress

>>138139137
Isnt 4chan 90% lurker?
So i would assume 90+% nodev.

>>138139418
Where is your game!? All you have to do is post your game.

>>138139253
Ask sadfam, he has a wonderful fairy tale about my game because he obsessed over it (and me) for so long.

Cool chatroom guise ^_^

>>138139464
Eh, even if that's true, I wouldn't count them as being "part of AGDG". I mean hell, we scarcely count people who post semi-regular progress updates as part of AGDG...

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>>138138502
No other program I've used before lets you have this kind layout, I used to miss it so much.

>>138138927
It's even older than Source, it's meant for games built off Quake2/Q3/Doom3 engines, but more importantly for modern times, the old 1.5.0 release has pic related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viNqNFEwlxk

>>138139526
Wait, where is your game? Is your game only a fairy tale? Do you not have a real game?

>>138133639
one of those are mine, I'm not >>138133331

Does posting here socially, without a game, actually help with loneliness? I would think it would just make it much worse.

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I hope you're all reporting the low quality posts.

>>138139418
here you go

Remember /agdg/: Some progress a day keeps the nodev away!

>>138139757
>It's even older than Source
Fuck off then, nodev.

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Haha yes. Keep going monkey.

>>138140038
Their dysfunctional thoughts about how their brain works is why they're looking to the wrong places to begin with.

>>138128539
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED

>>138138927
Everything looks way cooler than Source.

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Cmon monk monk you can do it! Keep going!

:V hahahahaha

:^) sad

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What are you working on today son?

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>>138140051
Here's a gif before I go to bed.
I don't think I'll keep working with the commodore 64. Maybe I'll try some other retro console/computer.

>>138140617
>making your son live out on the street

>>138140617
I know it sounds like shitposting but I'm STILL working on adding mouse support to all my various menus.

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>>138140617
making it winnable, adding in the final animations. the jam ends in a day and I'm the only one with a game. everyone else bailed, kinda hurts my motivation but idc, ill power through it.

>>138140710
Pretty cool. I've heard programming on C64 was pretty fun, something about the limited set of instructions leading to actually being able to understand all of it. I don't know, never done that kind of low level programming before, but I've been curious.

>>138140798
How can the volleyball be spiked at that angle and bounce back over the net?
Also by the bounce it seems the net is an inch tall.

>>138140617
Right here!

>>138128539

>>138140617
Trying to forcefuck UE4 into reading SQL databases.

>>138140872
It's really fun, and it's helped me lose some gamedev clutches I had (like using sin() for literally everything). I want to try some other systems before committing to a big game. Thinking about the zx spectrum, but the graphics are way too limited for a non artist like myself

>>138141096
it's a jam game, I don't really give a shit if my net isn't to your standards.

>>138140872
>>138141265
Is this you? >>>/r9k/27738143
Fuck off.

>>138141293
>isn't to your standards.
Why do you constantly get butt-flustered at constructive criticism?
There's no point of the net being there beyond a useless art asset then.

Sometimes you can almost see the loneliness in /agdg/.

>>138140038

>>138141497
>art assets are useless

Yeah, that's why I only use blank white materials and placeholder cubes in my games.

>>138141382
I think those are three different people. I type close to that other guy here, but the r9k dude is clearly a fucking idiot, so why would you think we're the same?

>>138141497
the ball bounces off of it you dumb fuck, it slides of the top in that webm infact. I don't get butt-flustered at constructive criticism, I dislike useless shitposts aimed to piss me off without actually giving any actual help.

>>138141293
Fuck off nodev. You're in my world now.

>>138141712
>nodev
>clearly has a game
what? wheres yours?

>>138141292
Go back to 420chan you piece of shit.

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Good morning. What's everyone working on today?

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>>138141628
=/=
>>138141681
>it slides of the top in that webm infact.
It clearly hit the ground and bounced back over unless I'm having a stroke.
>I dislike useless shitposts aimed to piss me off without actually giving any actual help.
I'm literally just trying to help and make your game better, but I see now that it's useless.

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>>138141961
do you not see the fucking shadow? its in the air in that screenshot.

>>138141292
Huh, I'd be interested in knowing the kinds of things you replaced with things you were using sin() for but you mentioned you were going to bed so nevermind!

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>mfw no one from AGDG applied to be a janitor
YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS