/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

>>138001417

>>138001548
Nothing. He can't use it.

>>138001374
It's shit.

File: chogall.png (55KB, 566x194px) Image search: [Google]

55KB, 566x194px

>>138001374
>It happened
FUCKING HELL

NOT EVEN THAT IT'S COMPLETE SHIT

>>138001374
>cost health instead of mana

IT'S SHIT

SO SHIT

PAY 7 LIFE CAST A SPELL

DIE NEXT TURN

FUCK YOU BLIZZARD

THIS IS COMPLETE UTTER SHIT

NO ONE WILL EVER PLAY THIS

FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>138001374

Apparently this is Warsong Commander-tier and I'm just an idiot, because I'm struggling to figure out when this card would be good.

S O B A D
O
B
A
D
WHO DESIGNS THIS SHIT
AHAHA
DROPPPPPED

>>138001374
Source?

Its not on any of the normal websites

>>138001374
>Play this at turn 9
>0 Mana doom
>immidiately play molten giants and taunt

>play Cho'Gall
>play DOOM!
>play molten giants for free
its genius thank you based Blizzard

>>138001693
>Cho'gal
>siphon soul
>get a 7/7, destroy a minion for 3 health

It's a good tempo play.

>>138001374
ZERO MANA TWISTING NETHER HAHAHAHAHAA

>>138001954
>>138001994

>inb4 Giants get nerfed to Hell and back

>>138001907
>drop cho'gall
>ZERO MANA TWISTING NETHER

>>138001907
Could be maybe playable in other classes. I can't see why a warlock would ever use this, especially a warlock who's made it to turn 7. Control warlock couldn't do anything with it and neither could zoo. Cool concept bad execution, like nearly everything else blizzard does.

>>138001374
thats pretty crap ngl

>>138001374
meh, its pointless when warlock doesnt have many high cost spells

this card will fizzle out like the TGT legendary

>>138002071
Depends how. They're probably increasing the mana cost.

>>138002040

Its a 7 mana twisting nether that cost 8 hp as well you fucking retard

>>138001648
shattered sun cleric

lady liadrin

>>138002148

These guys

>>138001954
>>138001994

have the right idea. It's a good accelerated Molten activator. I'm just not sure eating all that damage is worth it, or if that combo will be consistent enough.

>>138002040
>paying 7 mana to cast an 8 mana spell whilst doing 8 damage to yourself and losing a 7/7

>>138001374
Yo that shits ridic

>expend 3 health to deal 9 dmaage to random targets
xd

>play tavern brawl
>opponent has legend cardback
>i coin portal
>get pit fighter
>opponent portals
>ends turn
>turn 2 play pit fighter
>opponent portals
>opponent concedes

what an aboslute shitter. how can a legend player be so bad at this game. I fucking beat a legend turn 2

git rekt skrub

>>138001374

Could see this working in mage or priest

What can Warlock combo with it for a huge tempo play? Other than siphon soul

>>138002260
>you fucking retard
the irony. kill yourself

>>138002509
cho costs 7 mana to play m8

>>138001954
>Spend 7 mana to deal 10 damage to yourself and clear the board to draw cards
What? That sounds like shit.

Just wait till the game extends to that point with their removal already gone, don't rush to your death

>>138002334

Its more a way for warlocks to use molten giant + taunt without relying on handlock/spamming life tap

>>138002509

Are you this stupid?

>>138002334
I think any sort of combo can be consistent enough in Warlock but I don't think this as a combo will be strong enough to warrant a deck.

>>138001374
seriously look at warlock spells, the only ones this is good with are bane of doom and syphon soul

unless they get another spell, which I doubt from WOG this card is pointless

>>138002486
Shadowflame I guess.

Imp-losion wouldnn't be awful but its leaving standard

I can see it being some use. I mean, you get a spell for "free", so next turn maybe you can pull off some sick combo with a spell that won't effect your mana crystals that turn at all.
I mean, it's trash, but it's interesting.

>>138002568
>what is molten giant
>what is reno next turn

>>138002669
are you? why are you responding seriously to a shitpost?

>inb4 hurrr i was pretending to be retarded fagit

>>138001952
Kranich's Twitter. He just revealed it.
https://twitter.com/KranichHS/status/718228398800289793

>>138001374
>Zeriyah nude link dead
:^(

>>138002834
Yea right after I posted it ever major site put it up.

Shame I was hoping someone was being a faggot and posting bad OC

>>138002830
but i was only pretending to be retarded you fagit

>>138002785
It works only the turn you play Chogall.

>Never legend shitters think that this card is bad

>>138002786
>Getting that low
>In this meta of burst/burn thanks to reno
ok

That's at least a 5 card combo for that one scenario and means you're running doubles in a reno deck too. Doesn't seem too impressive or reliable.

>>138001374
>I'mplying they can give warlocks more good legendaries with the new retarded rotation format

>>138002745

Bane of doom
Siphon Soul

And Dark Bargain. Might actually see play

Its a heavy price (7 mana, 6 hp, discard 2 cards) but the reward?

Play a 7/7 and destroy two enemy minions? Thats fucking BGH on roids. But for a price

>>138001693
>PAY 7 LIFE CAST A SPELL

Warlocks don't have any spells that cost 7 mana.

>>138003190
I hope we get cards to play with dark bargain and fist
I'd love it if we literally got Dark Worlds from Yugioh

>>138003074

Wilfred Fizzlebang might see play in Standard if the meta slows down.

>>138003336

Me two

I wanna run tiny knights of evil + fist of jarraxus with my succubus

>>138003336
Tiny Knight of Evil :^)

>>138003071
Doom will get at least 3 draw, 4 on average.
You build the deck around control, relying as little as possible on self damage

Yes it sucks against direct burst but every deck has a weakness and if youre just going to say everythings shit because its not perfect then fuck off back to gvg with your shredders and boom autopilot

>>138003336
I wouldn't mind seeing more discard synergy for warlock.

Maybe shit like "5 mana 3/3 draw two cards. If this card is discarded, draw two.". That idea is probably shit, but it gives you an idea of how discard can be expanded on.

>>138003552
>>138003569
If we got a nigga that was like a 3/5 for 4, but would go into play if discarded that'd be a good start

What do you guys think of Yogg-Saron, though?

>>138003834

Meme card

>>138003834
trash and gay

>>138003834

Good card

Run him in control, the sorta deck that is slow and you can tell when you're gonna lose the game (either next turn or eventually), then drop him and see what happens

He's literally "LMAO TURN THE ENTIRE GAME INTO A COIN FLIP" when losing but so risky he isnt worth playing when ahead

File: 1439320721416.jpg (75KB, 550x560px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 550x560px

>>138003834
rng bitching aside, the timmy in me is stoked for all these big guys

File: 1454645150943.jpg (32KB, 373x351px)

32KB, 373x351px

>>138003834
This basically sums up my reaction to this entire expansion.

>>138003834
shit but might actually see play for how retarded it is.

The card is actually good.

>Cho'gall
>Dark Bargain

>Cho'gall
>Siphon soul

He can easily clear the board and also give you a 7/7.

File: brode.jpg (95KB, 762x745px)

95KB, 762x745px

I have few things unclear about Yogg-Saron
if it rolls execute, does it target full HP minions too? And can it target allied minions with execute? If the "random target" respects rolled spells targeting rules like not being able to shadow word pain your own hero then this card might be actually useful.

>>138003834

another card for astral druid

>>138004173
only valid targets

File: cho.png (110KB, 213x214px) Image search: [Google]

110KB, 213x214px

If your opponent loathebs do your spells deal double damage to you after playing cho'gall? Asking the real important questions here

>>138004126
>>Cho'gall
>>Dark Bargain
just play deathwing, you arent going to have trouble stalling turns

File: image.png (1MB, 1136x640px)

1MB, 1136x640px

New pirate soon lads

>>138004173

Spells with no applicable target will fizzle and move on to the next spell

All spells that can target allies can potentially target allies when rolled

Even yogg himself

>>138004280
>>138004173
>accidentally pyroblast your own face due to bad RNG
its shit.

>>138004330
Did you spend 6 Mana for that Mortal Coil?
Then the answer is yes.

>>138004330
Yes, the cards would cost 5 more HP to cast since that's the mana cost of the card for that particular turn.

>>138004430
>less likely than doomsayer from shredder

>>138004330
No but it does 5 more damage

File: 1411362091518.jpg (201KB, 1076x1080px) Image search: [Google]

201KB, 1076x1080px

>>138001374
Bane of Doom, Siphon Soul and Shadowflame top 3 spells. Doom and Twisting Nether if you are really fucking desperate.

>>138003582
the downside to DOOM is that you can't used it to clear a big board without burning your own card.

Like if you think about it, you rarely have less then 7 cards in hand with a handlock/reno/control warlock. If you kill 4 or + minions you will just burn your cards, or your next turns draw

>>138004345

Turn 7 vs Turn 10 could be a big deal though

Also deathwing kills your own board

>>138004430

By that same logic it could pyroblast the enemy's face and win a game you had absolutely no chance of winning

Its the opposite of a winmore card

Its a lose less

>>138004568
are there really more spells in the game than 2 drop minions?

Chogall is only really usable with Shadow Bolt, and even then thats just 4 damage to a 6 drop, doesnt even kill emperor

>>138004594
Hence why i said you build a deck that doesnt rely so heavily on life tap. Like a demon warlock youre using chogall and doom to activate the moltens

>>138004594

Feels like its more built to refuel your hand for aggro decks

Imagine a N'zoth deck where you played lots of small minions with death rattles then DOOM'd the board, so you still got value and drew into N'zoth

>>138004682
there are almost 200 spells and i think about 50 2 drops

File: 635956274163275533.gif.png (345KB, 400x573px) Image search: [Google]

345KB, 400x573px

Hey, Tempo Mage. We found your new Tony.

Malyrogue seems like fun too

>lose games 1 and 2 to 12-0 and 12-1 decks
>get a few wins
>happen to go up against a deck that happens to hard counter mine

I thought only constructed was shit at this time of the month.

>>138004682
there is less spell it's true, but the spell also has 3 target MINIMUM to chose from. I won't do the math on it, but I'm sure some autist in there could tell us the chance % on it happening

File: poppo intensifies.gif (183KB, 500x250px) Image search: [Google]

183KB, 500x250px

>>138004430
>>138004280
What if it uses Vanish or Shadow step to itself first even if it had like 6 spells uncast? Would the rest of its battlecry still take effect?
Also
>playing something like control priest with Justicar heropower
>yfw Yogg gives you shadow form

File: 1428467468074.gif (1MB, 480x270px)

1MB, 480x270px

>>138004173
>play Yogg
>have full hand
>he pulls Astral Communion

>>138004930

It was already done last thread

Its phenominally small

Maybe Warlock will get more good cards in the future? They wouldnt release a card reliant on getting good value from a spell in a class that has pretty mediocre spells right? It almost seems like making it cost HP is sometimes worse than having it cost mana sometimes.

>>138004726
It's amazing with siphon
Good with dark bargin and shadow flame if you're in trouble

>>138004979
>astral communion doesn't clear hand at 10 mana
>yogg costs 10 mana

Shieldbearers, everyone

why is this game so fucking bad i've never been this angry in my life

File: DANK_MEME_SUPREME.jpg (10KB, 206x211px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 206x211px

>>138003834

The meme card to end all meme cards. Would run in a miracle roguish thing for the spiciest memes.

>>138005104
What if you coined it out on turn 9 just to get that 1 extra spell value?

File: image.gif (2MB, 360x240px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 360x240px

>>138004974

>Playing as Control warrior with like 60 armour already and he gives you shadowform

Heh, my thanks

File: Yologg.png (341KB, 400x573px)

341KB, 400x573px

Here, i have rewriten Yogg Saron. The battle cry and the card stats are exactly the same, just made it shorter.

>>138005104
>implying you wouldn't ramp into him turn 8

File: 1450646791124.jpg (15KB, 192x154px)

15KB, 192x154px

>>138005104

>astral communion doesn't clear hand at 10 mana

>>138005104
>Astral communion doesn't empty hand at 10 mana.

Shieldbearers, everyone GET IN HERE

>Not running renounce darkness zog sauron for maximum memes

Have they explained if Yog will make sure all the negative stuff target opponents while the good stuff target you? The next thing you want is 3 Pyroblast to your face.

>>138004815
88 2-drops as of LOE
200+ spells

shredder dropping doomsayer is 1 in 88
pyroblast is X * 1/200+ where is is number of spells played (math is more complicated than that thanks to random target, but it's not unfeasable)

and odds are the board gets destroyed at some point due to all the aoe spells

>>138005383
anon...

File: image.gif (4MB, 450x542px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 450x542px

>>138005310

>Yfw yogg saron makes you renounce darkness
>As control warrior

>>138005383
They said EVERYTHINg is reandom, though it will only target valid targets (e.g. if a spell says "enemy minion", then it will only those.

Spelsl without any targets will fizzle while Discover spells and similar things will get the result chosen randomly.

File: ranger shrug.gif (428KB, 200x183px) Image search: [Google]

428KB, 200x183px

Well now that Cho'Gall is a fucking legendary who else are they gonna use for the new warlock hero?

>>138003834
auto-craft

>>138005383

Its completely random

He could fireball your face
Kings himself
Assassinate an enemy recruit
Give himself charge
Vanish the board
Tree of life
Force of nature
DOOM
Pyroblast the enemy face twice
Then healing wave enemy face

>>138003834
Crafting the second the expansion launches if I don't pull him

>>138005551
>>138005310
>Warlock cards get changed only
?

>>138005383
It can pyroblast your face and buff enemy minions with kings. That's why people hate it.

>>138003035
oh, yeah, you're right, duh.
well, it's garbage then.

File: 1418614737391.jpg (44KB, 707x395px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 707x395px

>>138003834

>>138005662

We arent getting new heroes because everyone laughed at blizzard for the last ones, and even when they gave away Liadrin for free people still cried

>Waaahh wahh i have to play wow for some completely optional reward for 2 hours

>>138005662
Jaraxxus and Lord Jaraxxus card gets custom Gul'Dan skin

>>138005804
>>Warlock cards get changed only
Swaps your hero power too

>>138003834
Going to be the premiere card in /hsg/ meme tournaments going forward.

File: 1231456556345.jpg (83KB, 490x700px) Image search: [Google]

83KB, 490x700px

>>138005662
Ner'zhul ?

>>138005916
Thats the appropriate reaction to playing WoW to be fair.

>>138005804

Thats why I posted jesse pinkman crying with the control warrior comment

You get no new cards but it fucks with your hero power, taking away tank up

>>138005662
Uuuh... does Ner'Zhul count? He was kinda like a Warlock. Maybe some Dreadlord, like Varimathis, as shitty as thatd be. Mannoroth still isnt a card even though he was a pretty big higher up so theres still him... on level with him there was also Archimonde and Kil'Jaden. Since mages get a fucking guardian idk why Warlocks couldnt get some absurdly powerful demonic deity.

>>138005929
I guess, it could cast shadowform too. If you're winning and play this it's usually throwing away your victory.

>>138006026
He's a Shaman.

File: 1454477274267.jpg (19KB, 202x250px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 202x250px

Cho'Gall looks bad. Both in art and in effect.

Anybody complaining about Yogg-Saron possibly Pyroblasting them in the face is shit at statistics.

>>138006061

Wow isnt that bad

How can you play hearthstone, the most RNG filled shitfest full of dank memes and pop culture references, and then say "but wow is shit"

>>138006127

Its a complete randomiser effect essentially

So why rely on RNG when you're winning

Yogg is a "Well fuck you if Im losing next turn Im taking you with me" all in, nothing to lose play

>>138005662
Well, we have Nekros Skullcrusher, Jubeka Shadowbreaker and the demon lords left.

Kil'Jaeden would seem like the most obvious choice, considering Nekros and Jubeka had fuck-all of an impact and barely any relevance, though "wasting" Jaeden as a hero portrait feels wrong.

File: Hehe.png (2MB, 781x1204px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 781x1204px

How would you rate my skill in this week's Tavern Brawl?

>>138006174
There's a lot of damaging and destroying spells. Playing it by itself on board will usually backfire. Playing it on a board with enemy minions tends to be the best but also opens the possibility of him buffing them too. Overall it's not worth it.

>>138002756
So literally worse than flamestrike.

So, which class will you run for your 29 spells + Yogg-Saron deck?

Druid's ramp and token shit would look pretty decent for it, though I'm not sure if there'd even be enough spells for that.

File: 70a165f9b3167da0.jpg (51KB, 530x755px)

51KB, 530x755px

Making a new account on Bnet Asia. Anyone did this before?

>>138004382
Is this a boy or a girl?

>>138006389

You're missunderstanding the point of the card altogether

When you're winning and looking for a good, safe play, dont play Yogg

When you're tied and need a big play to come out on top, but dont quite have anything else, it might be time to play Yogg. Its risky

When you havent a snowballs chance in hell of winning, what have you got left to lose? Play yogg.

Might fuck you over, but you were gonna lose anyway. It can also completely win you the game

>>138002756
>Imp-losion is leaving standard

Thank you lord

>>138003315
>forgetting twisted nether
O U T M Y T H R E A D P L E B S

>>138006608

Tempo Mage and Rogue can run him without gimping themselves. Then again, I don't really like the notion of Yogy turning the table against.

Unless you want tales to tell your friends with.

>>138006672
It's whatever you want it to be, anon.

trump is so fucking obese lmao

File: FGR KGHGG MGGHFGH.png (2MB, 1270x909px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1270x909px

>Started the turn with two Murloc Knights

Well that escalated quickly. Poor guy probably thought he had the God draft too, getting Boom.

File: 500px-Kezan_Mystic_full.png (284KB, 500x391px) Image search: [Google]

284KB, 500x391px

>>138004382
>More delicious goblin females

>>138006672
>Not being able to identify a female

>>138006770

Why would you cast twisting nether with cho'gall unless you're literally going to lose that turn, and the damage from casting TN isnt enough to put you in lethal range/kill you

>>138006875
it doesn't have to be that turn.

>>138006773

Tempo mage has usually lost by turn 10 anyway if they havent won by then

Malyrogue could have drawn poorly and not have the damage/removal to finish the game

Both of these cases are where games are essentially unwinnable because you've ran out of steam/resources


Then you play yogg and win anyway

>>138006725
You could say the same statement about deathwing and he's shit. If you're about to lose losing your hand doesn't mean anything.

Yogg will backfire more than deathwing does so if you're running this as a last resort it may as well be deathwing.

>>138007037
It HAS to be that turn, read the card again. Its not even a good effect like Dragon Consort.

File: The warlock meme goes on and on.png (1MB, 1106x1536px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1106x1536px

Update.

>>138007037
nvm. i misread the card.

>>138007037
>battlecry : the next spell you cast this turn
>'it doesn't have to be that turn''

what ? I dont think you can bank on the battlecry

>>138007037
It specifically says this turn. Unless you're about to lose turn 7 there's no point. If you are about to lose turn 7 dealing 8 to yourself will usually kill you anyway.

>>138007080

>You could say the same statement about deathwing and he's shit

Without Charge, Deathwing only presents a board clear and a fuckhuge beatstick for your opponent to deal with. If they've been hoarding spell combos for lethal, Deathwing isn't gonna help that. Yogg, however, can totally YOLO your opponent to death the turn he's played on.

File: image.png (994KB, 640x1136px) Image search: [Google]

994KB, 640x1136px

>>138007037

Reading is hard

>>138007080

Your logic is retarded

2 hp against a hunter with no heals, deathwing doesnt do shit

Neither does he do anything when you're low against deathrattles

Yoggs comeback potential is far great

He's less reliable because you dont know what he's gonna do, but he can do tons of shit Deathwing cant

File: 3 Dart Traps.png (2MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1920x1080px

How fucked am I?

Not pictured:
>Recruiter
>Sludge Belcher
>Stormwind Champion
>North Sea Kraken

>>138007147

>Doom! is unplayable

The same way Twisting Nether is played in Renolock, right?

>Cho'gall is bad

It's still a tempo swing. I am sure someone will make use of him.

Does anyone else wish cards didn't autocenter?

>make plays in rapid succession
>hit the wrong target because of this

fuck my life.

Will play slow from now on but fuck, it's not my fault I cleared 3 guys at once

>>138007368

>Three Dart Traps

Jesus Christ, were the alternatives two Boars?

>>138005104
>astral communion doesn't clear hand at 10 mana

hows wooden ladder treating you? think you're gonna break rank 20 some day?

>>138007368
Just click retire already / 10

>>138007394
>warlock needs card draw

Here everyone, tell this guy how stupid he is.

>>138006386
>Ice Howl, Garrosh and King Krush

All the big chargers. Me like.

What is the most beta/alpha class?

I'd say most beta: Paladin or Mage

Most alpha: Shaman, Rogue

>>138002425
>he got bad RNG out of the portals
>he knew he could never catch up
>doesn't waste any more time and concedes (with no bad outcome because its brawl)

It's just shows that he understands this game better then you do 2bh.

>>138007318

the odds of getting the right combo of spells to hit the right targets and do enough to keep you alive through a combo is so small that you might as well not even consider it. This card is strictly for memes

>>138007147
> DOOM! and Renounce Darkness unplayable
Someone is having difficulty braining.

>>138007147
>>138007394

I get the feeling Doom! Was literally created just to be casted by Yogg'Saron himself

>>138007359
That's one scenario that not even yogg will come back from. Yes it grants more chance than deathwing then but usually you want something more reliable. Well everyone's entitled to there own opinion though.

>>138007368
>3 dart traps
why

help
armorsmith, cursed blade or mortal strike (shittier fireball) in arena

>>138007694

Mortal Strike

>>138007694
cursed

>>138007645
No need to project that hard on more than one post just to prove your point.

>>138007694
So the choice is between Armorsmith and Mortal Strike then?

>>138007612

Anon
You have 2 options

Lose the game
Or meme with yoggsaron and potentially win

Whats it gonna be?

I mean what are you gonna do against a bad matchup that isnt going well? Just roll over and fight a losing battle until you die?

Or RISK IT ALL

>>138007645
>Playing any of those in competitive

Try harder

>>138007538

>implying priest needs burst heal when he can heal with his HP
>implying a lock will always have a full hand
>implying you cannot trade and make sure you will only draw up to 9 cards

I thought you locks are a thinking class.

Yoggy Soggy will be absurdly beneficial 90%+ of the time. What was blizz thinking?

>>138007318
>yogg, can totally YOLO your opponent to death the turn he's played on.

I mean, he's fun to use I'm sure, but paying 10 mana to cast a bunch of A.I., arcane shot, execute, healing circle, BoK, prep, etc. is just plain bad and will mostly give your opponent the mean to kill you.

I mean just look at the list of spell, the number of low impact spell is so high, them being random really kill the card.

It could have been ''alright'' I think if it was restrain to spells from say your own class, or your opponent class

>>138004382
>Female goblins look so sassy in drawings
>They look like hideous monsters as playable characters in WoW

>>138007830
That means you would have to run a deck centered around failing and then using Yogg-Saron to bail you out. The meme potential is great, but youd be going in planning to lose in order to get the max meme potential.

>>138007665

>Everyones entitled to your opinion

Thats not an excuse for you to be wrong and miss understand the application of effects

>Literally the only card that can save you at 2hp against a hunter with no heals is Yogg

>"but the chances of his effect actually saving you are small, might as well concede"

Fucking plebs


Does nobody understand what Risk vs Reward is? When you've got nothing to lose and everything to gain, yes playing Yogg is worth it.

If it fucks up and doesnt save you, whats the difference? You werent gonna win anyway

>>138007980
You just proved you never played warlock so shut the fuck up.

>I thought you locks are a thinking class.

kill your self

File: 1457800811479.gif (45KB, 500x1000px)

45KB, 500x1000px

>first legendary was Anub'arak
>was excited at first because he was exclusive to my favorite class
>but he always got Mind Controlled or Polymorphed or Silenced so I dusted him for a Preparation
I love my Preparations but months later I kind of miss Anub'arak. He was shitty but now I can't help think it might be fun to build a deck around him. But at the same time he's not good enough for me to purposefully save dust for. It's weird.

>>138008116
>dusting cards

>>138008106
point is you could have had a chance to win if that stupid card in your deck was actually a card with a use

File: image.png (74KB, 434x434px) Image search: [Google]

74KB, 434x434px

>>138008070

>You have to build a deck around losing then yogg bailing you out

Explain why you think thats what you have to do

I mean, you're wrong, but I want to hear your thought process

>>138008070
By that logic, Reno is also terrible, since he's only good if you cater your entire deck around him and wait until you are almost dead before playing him.

>>138008116
where can I sub?

File: 1450656213495.jpg (22KB, 809x820px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 809x820px

>>138008106

you lose 1 slot in a deck of 30 for a .0000001% chance of winning in certain losing scenarios. Pretty sure that's not worth

File: 1459997938475.jpg (83KB, 368x520px)

83KB, 368x520px

>>138008319
I was new, I really wanted useful cards.

>>138008110

Right, another copy of board wipe is somehow a bad thing. Maybe for a zoo player like you.

>>138008354
>>138008436

he's probably one of those trolden fan

>>138008324
I wrote a script to generate 7 random spells. Results:
>Innervate
>Ball of Spiders
>Explosive Shot
>Feign Death
>Ice Block
>Ancestral Healing
>Windfury
>Charge
Tell me that's not memetastic, even if you're winning.

>>138008507
>doesn't realize twisting nether is an epic
>doesn't realize you can have 2 epics
>implies you need 2 more board clears that cost 10 mana and make you lose the game

I hope you like tavern brawls shield bearer

>>138008354
I mean you could just build a regular deck and have good balances and synergy
But you want to run a ton of spells, make it to late game, get into a losing situation, and then use your meme powers to swing it in your favor. If you run too few spells you dont get enough potential and you may not even need Yogg. If you run too many then you'll have a weak board and you may lose before you can even play Yogg.
It just doesnt seem like a good idea to me.

Does anyone have a Decent Djin of zephir deck? Maybe warrior?

File: image.jpg (163KB, 900x655px) Image search: [Google]

163KB, 900x655px

>>138008324

How often do you win while having used every single card in your deck?

Aggro fel reaver druid wins with like 7

Shit regular midrange druid wins with like 12-14 now

>>138008436

Same point to you

One card slot for potentially winning a game you had no chance of wining = worth it

But hey man if you're too much of a pussy to risk it, be my guest and take the loss when you get a bad matchup

>>138008782
Nobody has one because it doesn't exist

File: 1448128780552.jpg (149KB, 612x612px) Image search: [Google]

149KB, 612x612px

>Ancestral Healing, Windfury and Charge
>All three land on Yogg

>>138008720

>I never play renolock

Spotted the zoo player.

>>138007318
This. Deathwing gives them a turn to react. Yogg is Battlecry: Toss a coin, if heads, you win.

File: 1447465881879.jpg (42KB, 401x400px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 401x400px

>>138008365
If you donate to my Patreon not only will you receive regular updates to my feelings about Hearthstone but you will also gain exclusive access to my thoughts on such video games as Splatoon ("I haven't played in a while ever since I hit S rank"- me) and Overwatch ("Ha ha more like Onlywatch" - me). Don't miss out on the hottest memes, ever.

>>138006783
Can it be a battle zeppelin capable of mid-air release of combat airplanes?

>>138008776

>Run too few spells

Exactly what deck doesnt cast at least 3 spells by turn 10?
If not more?

Yogg is more of a lategame option anyway

>>138008790
>How often do you win while having used every single card in your deck?

pretty often actually, as it's a legitimate win condition

>>138008891
WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDS

>>138008891

For

>>138008670

>>138009001
Considering we are talking about something goblin in Warcraft-verse:

Yes, absolutely.

>>138007147
>renounce darkness unplayable

Those are fighting words.

>>138009039

Which deck is that anon?

Because I know for a fact secretdin, patron and midrange druid rarely exhaust every card in their deck

>he preordered

>>138008912.
>Spotted the zoo player
>I sure showed him :^)

>play Yogy after 10 spells
>blessing of champion on him
>bok on him
>charge on him
>windfury on him
>polymorph opposition's taunt
>equality
>elemetal destruction
>hex on yogy
>assassinate on yogy
>pyroblast you're face

Sounds like fun.

>>138009194
Isn't he talking about fatigue decks?

>>138009014
You want to swing the game into your favor with only 3 random spells? Thats not enough potential to effectively use Yogg in my eyes. I just dont see him being much of an asset in most regular decks. You couldve just run with something more reliable.

>>138007665
Are you retarded? 100% chance to lose or 1% chance to win. Nobody is asking you to play him on curve or if you have other options. You play him when you will definitely die next turn. There is no coming back, no recovery, no other options except concede. Yogg is your other option except concede. You only play him when you are 100% dead next turn.

File: 1361586811057.jpg (17KB, 186x201px)

17KB, 186x201px

>>138009118
Sky pirates assemble.

>>138008912
I'd like yo see your deck with 2 twisting nethers and 2 DOOMs!

Also, post your rank in the meanwhile.

>>138009194
mill rogue, CW, reno warrior, fatigue warrior, control priest, fatigue mage, molten mage

>>138005662

Kanrethad

>>138001374
malganis + cho gal + doom = MAX VALUE

File: D0xku2d.jpg (40KB, 600x450px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 600x450px

>>138009430

>2 copies

It's for your own good, my old son.

>>138005662
Why were people here wanting Cho'Gall to be a hero? He looked really goofy. Is he cool in WoW or something?

>>138001648
They can still use WoD cho'gall as the alt Warlock hero.

>>138001374
I'm really wondering, with all those spooky tentacle monsters, will they just roar when i play them? Would be a shame, i enjoy the silly stuff most cards say.

>>138008912
Go back to twitch

>>138009353
>>138009446

So what happens in those decks when you draw badly/have a bad matchup and have no chance of winning? What would you rather have as the bottom card of your deck?

Acolyte of pain or Yogg?

>>138009372

Yogg is not a reliable win condition

He's plan B

>>138009194

every card in those decks serves a purpose. Why the fuck would yo make either of them more inconsistent for an extremely small chance at winning a few losing games

>>138006119
kil jaeden turned nerzhul into a fucking helm because he refused to use fel magic. nerzhul didn't betray the elements, guldan is the one who wanted more power because he thought the elements were kinda gay

nerzhul's always been a shaman

>>138009372

>3 random spells isnt enough

You could have casted one spell the entire game, tree of life, lay on hands, healing wave, mind control, pyroblast etc.

Any one of those spells could turn it around.

does lantern of power count as a spell?

>>138009736
>So what happens in those decks when you draw badly/have a bad matchup and have no chance of winning?
Then you lose like you would with any other deck that isn't Secret Paladin or Freeze Mage.

>>138007980
>>implying you cannot trade and make sure you will only draw up to 9 cards

Holy shit you're a fucking retard. Why would I play doom if I can trade on board? Drawing cards alone doesn't win you the game. reseting the board against aggro won't save you either at 10 mana you dipshit.

>>138009771
-1 Dr Boom
+1 Yogg Sogg

Last 3 days I've tried to play constructed I've run into about 95% zoocucks.

Sure is a fun game.

>>138009963
No it's a token spell. Like blingtron can't summon the ash bringer or esportal summong thaddius

>>138009859
Ye you right

>>138009963
I'd think Yogg would only cast spells that are also collectable cards.

File: 34685234879.gif (327KB, 640x472px) Image search: [Google]

327KB, 640x472px

>>138009736
>What would you rather have as the bottom card of your deck? Acolyte of pain or Yogg?

that is 100% asking the wrong question. Do you even understand the basic of deck building ? Of course when you draw a card that hold warly game value in the late game it suck that doesn't mean you should replace with fuckin deathwing

You play Yogg Saron. It's the only minion on the board. It casts mind control 5 times. What happens?

File: LADS.png (2MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1920x1080px

LADS

>>138009771

None of those decks have a winrate far and above 50%. Even the best pilot in the world loses 4/10 games with control warrior, despite its strength

In those losses, any other card was dead. It didnt matter, you lost anyway

Yogg, meanwhile, could have turned the game around

>But its unreliable!

Who fucking cares about reliability when you're gonna lose! You dont pass up the chance to get in a shady looking car when you're stranded in the middle of nowhere hitchhiking with no food in the freezing cold

You take that shit and hope for the best

>but every single card serves a purpose with literally all 30 cards the deck would be shit and unplayable, not even one can be subbed

If that were true, deck alterations wouldnt exist
Also if that were true: Elise would never be played because there'd never be dead cards at the bottom of the deck to turn into legos

>>138010339
Spells without a valid target would simply fizzle according to Blizzard.

>>138010042

>i cannot understand the concept about killing off my own minion against a heavily unfavored board so that I won't overdraw myself

Here's your (You)

>>138010353
She has no time for games

>>138009617
Cause he has been around since warcraft 2 and had a raid in WoW.

>>138010339
Nothing. Use what is left of your brain.

>>138010339
You win the powerball

>>138010353
Winds.

>>138010353
What fucking pack was it "lad"?

>>138010461
Okay but unless he has a great personality he still looks retarded. Surely there are cooler Warlocks in WoW than some yellow guy with two heads.

>>138010014

Exactly

Unless you had yogg
Then you could have won through sheer rng bullshit

>>138010256

The example isnt important. The point is it could be anything

Could be acolyte
Could be alex
Could be deathwing
Could be tazdingo

Sometimes those cards wont win you the game

Yogg always has a chance to win you the game

>>138010353

I BRING LIFE AND FWOOOOSH!

File: ClassicP.png (993KB, 1538x878px) Image search: [Google]

993KB, 1538x878px

Classic pack my shit up

>>138010687
She dreams and the world trembles

>>138010687
coldlight oracle

>>138010586
Oh he has a great personality. The two heads are their own entity that bicker with each other and have great voice acting. Even in heroes of the storm they have good dialogue.

>>138010432
>I cannot understand the concept of aggro and control archetypes

>>138010339
My guess is it would fizzle 5 times, but I'm not sure.

>>138010586

He's been a major player in the lore for a long time and people like him

If you dont thats just your opinion man

File: Cho'gallComic.jpg (160KB, 680x1031px) Image search: [Google]

160KB, 680x1031px

>>138010586
There's literally no other notable warlocks than cho'gall.

Cho'gall was the apprentice of gul'dan (the current warlock hero) and started a cult that tried to revive c'thun but failed. He's also a 2 player character in hots.

Also who doesn't want a 2 headed ogre arguing with each other for emotes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuju2_1qhAE

I'm upset they didn't save him for the new hero skin.

File: Merc.png (1MB, 1538x878px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1538x878px

>>138010687
Atleast i got two rares?

>>138010687
Heh, disguised toast.

File: Volgin.png (572KB, 689x720px) Image search: [Google]

572KB, 689x720px

What about Bran+Cho'gall?

Can I cast 2 spells for free?

>>138010928
Oh a rare
I didn't even look closely and just assumed a lego

>>138011008

Going by how Preparation works, probably on one instance.

>>138011008
>the next spell

nope

File: TAKE HEART LADS.png (2MB, 1920x1080px)

2MB, 1920x1080px

>>138010458
>>138010548
>>138010562
>>138010679
TAKE HEART YOUNG ONES

>>138011008
Next spell costs 2x the life total.

Just kidding it does nothing because it's "the next spell", so it applies to the same one and fuck all happens.

>>138001374
This effect is strong but I'm not sure how well it works with warlock spells.

Yea warlock doesn't really care too much about their own health but doing something like Cho'gall hellfire seems kinda weak.

I feel like you wanna be using this for some kind of degenerate combo but warlock doesn't have that many face spells. I think we have to wait and see if warlock gets some powerful new spells. This makes all future warlock spells more interesting for sure.

This card can be crazy op I'm just not sure all the parts are there yet.

File: 4be8ba4617dd862f07c688bc22631bf1.png (289KB, 383x487px) Image search: [Google]

289KB, 383x487px

>>138011164
>pre-ordering

File: George-Costanza-OCBD1.jpg (46KB, 394x370px)

46KB, 394x370px

>>138011164
>HE PREORDERED

>>138010586
Well we got literally who Windranger, Not-Muradin (why isnt he in the game), and then Medivh, who was fucking dead for like 2 games and then fucked off to leave mortals alone after Warcraft 3. Cho'Gall at least has the benefit of being a 2 headed ogre, which is always at least a little funny.

>>138011224
The only real use for it is Siphon Soul as a tempo play. Drop a 7/7 and remove their big body for 3 HP, but I'm not sure it's worth putting in the deck for that alone.

>>138011224

It's for tempo swings. Cho + siphon soul/implosion/shadow flame/etc. It's an instant staple in reno

>>138010674
>Sometimes those cards wont win you the game
>Yogg always has a chance to win you the game

I'm looking forward to you posting your insane Yogg lethal % (on the opponent) a couple month after the set release

>>138011224

For now the best applications appear to be

>Siphon
>Dark Bargain
>Bane of doom

As a tempo play
Which is fine.

If BGH sees play as a "summon a good body, remove a condition enemy minion", then a 7/7 with no condition on its removal target (or two in the case of dark bargain) definitely will

Using cho'gall turn 7 to bane of doom a 2 health enemy could be game ending if you get a good demon out of it

>>138011469
It damages you for 3 instead. Siphon costs 6 health but heals 3. Still good value

File: yoggy.png (375KB, 400x573px) Image search: [Google]

375KB, 400x573px

>Reminder that this card will be staple in face shaman as a last resort to end you.

File: 1307764174850.jpg (39KB, 458x504px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 458x504px

>go 12 in arena twice while watching Hafu struggle and complain about hidden MMR
>tab out and check out Hafu nudes for the 12,000th time
>handpick a jav for 1hr out of my 13TB folder
>getting ready to watch hafu and said jav simultaneously on my projector at full volume

livin the life boys

>anyone saying Cho'Gall is bad
Spotting Shieldbearers has never been easier.

>>138011593

Im looking forward to you continuing to lose unwinnable games because you're too much of a pussy to run a risky card

>>138011362
I can see tempo Mage running Yogg.

Play your game
Tempo as best you can
If you draw Yogg not a big deal if you are winning you just don't play him and keep up tempo till either
1. You win
2. You get into a losing position.

If 2 play Yogg and see what happens.


Tempo mate doesn't really have any comeback mechanic so if they get behind they usually lose. This just gives them the chance of winning games they shouldn't

>>138011646
You don't understand face classes if you think they'd risk a 10 mana card sitting in their hand from turn 1

>>138011738

I just spotted on right there! Pyroblast is a mage spell anon, we're told you that so many times now!

>>138011630

Thats why he said

>For 3

Implying you're paying 3 hp to remove it

File: thenation.jpg (123KB, 1280x720px)

123KB, 1280x720px

>ripping that perfect chocolate vape, savoring that smooth ethereal cloud deep within the lungs while wrecking some Renoshitter with aggro shaman
how's the rip today, /hsg/?

vapenation V/\

>>138011646
>>138011828
No, it'll be played in Freeze Mage and Control Warrior.

>>138011981
It will never be played in freeze. Block doesn't pop in your turn and it will kill you pretty easily.

File: 129487757628.jpg (15KB, 259x195px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 259x195px

>>138011790
I don't care that my deck lose unwinnable games as long as it get a good win ratio overall.

I couldn't give a fuck about a deck that has a better chance at winning unwinnable games while holding a worse win ratio overall.

>>138011618
>>Dark Bargain

I don't think this will make Dark Bargain see play.
Discarding 2 cards is just way too much and will ruin your gameplan too often.
The manacost isn't the reason Dark Bargain isn't played. It's the discard 2.

>lock gets their own bomber card

What is the odd of this shitting you up?

>hitting gang imp and the imp it spawns

>>138012075
I think you're overestimating the amount of burn he's gonna conjure up. Yogg will be a fountain of pure value.

File: 1447267854403.png (325KB, 382x417px)

325KB, 382x417px

>>138010920
Can't they have some Eredar as a Warlock hero? We already have Jaraxxus. Or is that haram?

>>138012352
H E W I L L K I L L Y O U

Too hard for you to understand? Also, freeze mage died with eater of secrets.

>>138011981
so there would be cthun control and yolo control warriors?

>>138012484
>Also, freeze mage died with eater of secrets.

meh, it's a niche tech card, don't think it matter at all. Maybe some reno deck runs it

>>138012484
Freeze didn't die when Khezan came out, it's sure as shit not dying when Eater comes out.

>>138012686
Kezan was never a good card. Eater is

>Meme-Saron teched in Freeze Mage as a "fuck it, I might at least win this way" vs. Control Warrior
I can see the upset already.

>>138012348
>What is the odd of this shitting you up?

I think it will be a tool for reno warlocks. You can use it on turn 3 or 4 when the aggro opponent has lots of low hp minions on board and you have none. With 3-4 enemies and only 1 friendly target (your face) it will deal most of the damage to the opponent and then the total damage/mana ratio is fantastic. It's basically a second demonwrath against an aggro board.

Also it will be tried in grim patron warlock decks, together with that new 1/1 tentacle that has a whirlwind deathrattle.

Need a pirate rogue decklist

>>138012659
yogg kinda make sense in CW. You reach late game pretty often, you have high health and can survive dropping a 10 mana creature and survive

File: FraB0n1.jpg (88KB, 747x751px) Image search: [Google]

88KB, 747x751px

>>138011732
>tfw no qt 3.14 Hafu lookalike JAVfu
why even live

Now if only there were an Eloise lookalike...

>>138012837
>and can survive dropping a 10 mana creature and survive

You better fucking survive and end your opponent by then. Best card in the set so far for me.

>>138012837

you are really underestimating how many spells can potentially fuck you over. There's no reason to run this in a serious deck

>>138012484
>H E W I L L K I L L Y O U
Seems alot of people read it as this

>236 spells
>randomly cast ~20 of them
>randomly target between you, yogg, enemy and potential board targets
>Tiny chance of hitting your own face enough times with enough spells to kill you

File: fucksecrets.png (619KB, 1214x960px) Image search: [Google]

619KB, 1214x960px

>>138012789
Eater is much worse than kezan in every way expect against secret paladin.

>>138006748
Yeah man , that fucking card is top5 of most fucking asshole cards that fuck you over each time.
>You have a nice early board
>Working on your comeback after a zoo spam opening
>you have your 4 health strong 8 drop and a few damaged low things
>lethal next turn
>put this knife on your head
>implosion
>hits for 4 killing your board and then the juggles clean up the rest.
If it hit for 3 or 2 even it would been np.

Every

Fucking

Time

>>138012789
>Kezan was never a good card. Eater is

I think Kezan is just straight better than Eater against all decks but secret pala.

Eater has an even worse body for its cost, so it's just plain bad against classes without secrets.

Against Hunter and Mage stealing a secret is usually more value than removing it and getting +1/+1. Hunter and Mage don't have multiple secrets up often.

Against secrets pala it's insane, but we don't even know if that deck will survive.

>>138011732
I actually laughed with this one.

>>138012794
I have to check the spell list to see if it's worth it. Basically
>any spell that affect minions is kinda worthless in freeze mage
>any healing spell is kinda bad
>card draw is bad
>board wipe is bad
>secret don't help you

so spell that summon creature and direct damage are the only thing you are looking for

>>138013027
I didn't notice Kezan Mystic was a goblin until you pointed it out, I always thought she was a gnome.

>>138013027
>good against secret paladin
>secret paladin dead
Yeah I suppose it'll be really meta changing wont it?

>>138013180
Eater of secrets is there just to have a counter against secrets after kezan goes. It's also there to please secret paladin haters if it survives/in wild.

Anyone? Get in here?
>>138012817

>>138007147
>curse of rafaam
They actually made this card.

Is this the literal worst card in the game , seriously?
The only way when this card has use is to get past an iceblock

I can't think of any other spell that is worse.

>>138012484
There are only 25 burn spells that can hit your face out 235 spells. That means if you summon 10 spells, only 1 will likely be a burn spell. That spell has a 1 out of 3 chance at best of hitting your face. The average damage of those spells is around 3. So if you have more than 3 life, you're pretty safe. And that's not including the odds of you getting healed.

>>138013012
>1hp
>ice block on
>Play yogg
>Lose

What exactly can't you understand? Have you ever played freeze mage?

>>138013180

The reign of Aggro/Midrange Secrets is over, the reign of Control Secrets is only beginning

>>138012974
>you are really underestimating how many spells can potentially fuck you over

Am I ? I used this a couple of time
http://yoggsaronsimulator.herokuapp.com/
and it seem like if you cast this on an empty board, or a board with only one minion on the other side, you just become the value

>>138007147
Ahh, Blizzard
Release cards that synergize with demons/discard then never give that deck type any good support

File: Hearthstone Screenshot 04-08-16 04.08.29.png (1MB, 1023x768px)

1MB, 1023x768px

phew

>>138013367
There is no reason whatsoever why any one would gamble a game away like that especially in freeze mage. What do you suggest should be removed?

Also, there are more than 25 spells that can do damage to your hero.

>>138013367
if only one of those is a burn spell, why does that anon want to play it in freeze?

File: image.jpg (172KB, 557x605px)

172KB, 557x605px

>tfw i preordered
>wont have to save up gold and dust for packs
>play arena all day
>get to build day 1 standard experimental decks

I can't believe people are judging this set as bad because they're only spoiling epics, which are always shit.

File: Image.ashx.jpg (35KB, 223x310px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 223x310px

>>138013350

You force your opponent to take damage or lose their early turn. It's only bad against control/midrange.

>>138013645
WELL MET

>>138013709
>here are more than 25 spells that can do damage to your hero.
I went though http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Spell_card_list and autstically counted them up, feel free to prove me wrong.

File: Hearthstone Screenshot 03-30-16 12.32.21.png (1MB, 1360x768px)

1MB, 1360x768px

>>138013346

>>138007572
>Most alpha
Definitely rogue , takes the most skill to play , always chance of death because your face tanking almost unavoidably and gets the worst card in the game and still always (kinda) viable.

Most beta : priest probably , pussy ass stealing instead of own strength , healing like a bitch , "portrait" is a literal bitch fuck boy with 0 manlyness , hell even jaina is more manly.

>>138013772

It's bad against aggro too because board control is more important than face damage always, and you wasted YOUR early turn playing that shitty card.