/lite/ Rouge-lite General

first for ETG is a snoozefest

Dunno if rogue-lites warrant their own general.
Can't the guys from rogue-like general adopt them?

>>137602651
I thought you guys didn't want those sad autists ruining your fast paced epic fun?

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nth for fish can roll

>>137602894
gungeon is a thief and the main character is fish
>>137602870
also that general is almost dead too from the look of

>>137602651
>rogueLITES
>anything like rogueLIKES
No, our autism will not let you pass.

>>137603654
large difference, one is fun.

>>137603865
Yeah, the one that's hung around for several decades.

>>137603943
nah it's the one this general is about

>>137603943
Fuck off back to there then.

>>137603654
Nevermind just checked and they are also slowly drifting into the typical /vg/ void of circlejerks and offtopic.

>>137604332
Ok lets talk about games, Risk of Rain how about? Best Artifacts and or Character

>>137604179
>>137604236
Can't be that great if you're bickering with my shitty bait in the first of these threads.

>>137604415
Are you also going to try to pick up some of the other communities, like Isaac?

>>137604415
I tried it a little but really did not see the appeal for myself. I guess the online not working despire my daily used open port did not help me trying to play more.

>>137604536
yes it would keep it from dying as fast

What do you guys expect from Gungeon?

>>137604536
>a game can't be great because someone on the internet took my bait.

>>137604701
I expect a isaac with guns and less rng bullshit

>>137604701
>a game
>not a genre

Your bait-bite is off-point.

>>137605046
What do you not like about rouge-lites?

>>137605680
Not him but roguelites way too often bunk all their worth into having randomly generated levels while offering only very shallow battlesystems that make the "infinite" content just boring very fast.
Doesn't help further that most level rngs are actually really shit too. I got the same exact room in BoI way too many times and on labyrinth depths even tripple or 4 times the same room often right next to each other.

>>137605680
That's a tricky question, the genre is still so new and poorly defined, plus there's a lot of shitty rogue-lites out there.

Really, I'm just sticking up for the real thing, which some of you adrenaline junkies appear to think is boring.

>>137605942
>>137605949
The question is how would we solve that.

>>137606101
Release good games and don't buy any "roguelike" just because you saw it streamed.

>>137607193
why

>>137604701
Isaac with guns

Witch is basically Enter the gungeon.
So i'm happy

bu,mp

bumpo

bump again

Risk of Rain or Nuclear Throne what should I get

>>137605680
The main thing I dislike about roguelites is their out-of-game progression systems (unlocks etc)

at best they're unobtrusive (level skips, alternate characters if done well) but at worst they actively tip the balance of the game away from any one individual run (fucking. hate. bank systems.)

I want to feel like I have as much a chance of making it through the first time as I do the 100th time I start a fresh run. I feel like the main thing that should give me an advantage should be my understanding of the systems in place that are acting upon me during any run, as opposed to the balance of those systems slowly being eroded by allowing me to do more bit by bit as I die.

The dev of URR has a great post about this over here
Rhttp://www.ultimaratioregum.co.uk/game/2015/06/05/roguelike-metagames-the-sequel/

>>137620583
RoR

>>137620583
I really didn't like RoR aesthetically or mechanically so I would lean heavily towards NT, but that's as much personal preference as anything else. I know a lot of people who had a lot of fun w RoR

>>137620583
Platformer or shoot-em-up, it should be a simple choice.

>>137620747
Oh I get it.

>>137620747
So you're saying that it would be better if everything was unlocked from the get go? If so I agree and thing the main game mode should be a side challenge, like a new game plus where you have to unlock the better items.

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>>137602379
Zoltan Cruiser a best. A BEST

>/ntg/ just died
SAVE ME

>>137626304
I love the microgame of FTL, but the metagame is tedious as shit and far too dominated by the RNG.

I just want someone to rip off the idea and run with it.

>>137626387
welcome, stay a while

>>137626304
Can't argue with that

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>>137626387
rip

>>137626639
Me too, I thought I was the only one. Only reason I didn't play more.

>>137626639
I had my hopes up for Interstellaria but that game is pretty overblown

>>137630605
You mean skytowards?

I'm about to preorder gungeon completely blind.
I'll be sure to shitpost in the thread about my experiences tomorrow

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>>137620583
risk of rain, nuclear throne a shit
>pic related, my progress in it

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>>137626639

>>137621963
yeah this is basically it
I poured a lot of time into nethack, for example

that game, when you first come to it, seems fucking unforgivingly difficult. In reality though, the reason it feels that way is that there's just so much going on in there that you don't understand. As you progress through it, you don't really get access to anything that you didn't already have on your first playthrough (as you say, everything is unlocked from the start), what changes is that you understand what the fuck is happening, you know how to react to new things, you know how to exploit certain interactions, etc. It becomes much easier, because your understanding of the system is so much better.

Spelunky did this really well, too, imo.

>>137630681
That and the fact that it just feels too busy

>>137631623
Getting good is a question of quitting when you've not found the items you need along the way, it's tedious as fuck.

>>137631623
it's not really about difficulty as much as I want to be able to explore a galaxy way more freely than the over-arching FTL metagame allows for. It really pushes you along a path and I get that it does that because there's not enough content in the game to support just meandering around the galaxy willy nilly for an indeterminate amount of time, but it doesn't change the fact that I find it uninteresting.

>>137632082
jesus christ you're such a shitter
you can beat the flagship on normal with most things, I can consistently beat hard mode

>>137632217
Check out the captain's edition infinite thing if you want that kind of a thing.

>>137632310
Not if you don't get the right drops, there's only so far skill will get you against the boss.

>>137631208
I played it at PAX and preordered.
I feel pretty good about it
it's definitely slower than NT, which is actually a plus for me, but I love the design and the feel of everything.

My main concern is that the ~40 minute start to finish run time (not counting secrets) spread across 5 floors won't be enough to really keep the game interesting to me long-term. Spelunky's world is divided similarly but spelunky runs also happen to last about 2x that.

>>137632310
>Check out the captain's edition infinite thing if you want that kind of a thing.
oh shit, I genuinely didn't even know that was a thing. I haven't revisited FTL in ages, I guess I've got to give it another shot. I really loved the game, but once I beat it a couple of times the super focused, driven design made it so I didn't really feel compelled to come back to it.

>>137632552
>waaaah I don't get a vulcan and a glaive beam every run
>fucking rng i swear XD
git gud

>>137632730
No problem.

>>137632984
>git gud

No thanks, I don't play games I don't enjoy.

It's nice that you're in denial that RNG screws you over, but the game isn't for me.

>>137634008
Maybe that's because RNG doesn't screw me over, my streak on hard is 13 right now.

>>137634165
So you've got your favourite ship unlocks too, must be nice for you.

>>137634415
I don't get you now at this point.
Are you implying you're so bad you can't unlock other ships?

>>137634773
>>137634415
this doesn't seem like a real fruitful discussion

one guy doesn't like FTL and is insulted by the insinuation that the only way he couldn't like how the game implements RNG is if he were bad at the game

the other guy does like FTL and seems insulted by the fact that anyone could have a personal dislike of the game's implementation of RNG

>>137634773
I unlocked a couple before I got bored of being RNG's plaything.

Are you implying that having your pick of your favourite ships doesn't give you an advantage over your first playthough?

>>137635217
If I felt I were interrupting other discussions, I'd stop picking at this Anon's bizarre opinion.

>>137631402
Is there any particular reason why those golden guns are paired with those characters?

>>137635276
No, because most ships are equal.

>>137631402
Well, some are.
Melee is great for eyes.
Splinter gun on Y.V is broken.
Double crossbow steroids is amazing.
Laser pistol on horror because it's green too.
If I could be bothered, I would change the ret to golden nade launchers with the exception of golden nuke and frog pistol, but I doubt I will touch the game until it's fixed or the texture pack gets released.

While we're on the topic of golden weapons, any tips for collecting them?

The crib gives me a lot of trouble, especially since I'm often still carrying a screwdriver and revolver when I go there.

>>137636248
1. unlock the easy mode triangle
2. pick up open mind
3. reach level ultra
4. pick up a golden weapon
5. drop it in co-op for the character that you want to give it to
6. ???
7. profit

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Where's Shuckle I want to tell em to fuck off.
I'm so lost here Nuclear Throne is all I know

>>137636808
The obese tranny lewdposter is offline right now.

>>137636563
Step 3 is going to be tricky, I've only managed to kill the throne a couple of times so far.

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>>137637208
what about the skin mod tho
i was about to get back into making the plant skin with Chomper, i just need to fix the lips and get into it

>>137636808
well we can explore new games as well and make shuckle memes there too.

>>137638495
the only games shuckle plays are mountain dew valley, cuck fortress 2 and skullfuck girls

>>137636248
If you're just shooting for the B Skin,
>Do Co-Op
>Play as YV, second character is the one that needs a golden weapon
>Kill YV
>Pick up his revolver

If you're shooting for good weapons, you gotta beat The Throne. Rogue is actually a really good character for that, believe it or not; the Rogue Rifle can stunlock it while you run away after you pop the generators.

>>137640170
>rogue is good
fuck off back to >>>/vg/ntg and never come back
we left that meme there, now let's face reality

>>137640170
Why do I have to beat the throne, can't I just screwdriver the car?

>>137640459
There are better golden weapons post-loop. Splinter Gun, Assault Rifle, Bazooka, etc

>>137640531
Ah, so we're back to me getting gud then.

Damn.

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TH'I TH'VE'LN
ISUM'FHEGUR D'O'IEN
VE'Ä TH'IKHUN
FHÖ'FAASHYN Ä "ONE

>>137638753
>mountain dew valley
kek

>>137641218
If you wanna cheese it, the drop conditions for golden weapons aren't based on what loop you're on, but rather, the game's difficulty.

>Natural drop area: 1-1 L1
>With Pizza Sewers: 0-1 L1 (No weapons drop here)
>With Crown Vault 1: 7-3 L0
>With Crown Vault 2: 7-2 L0
>With Crown of Curses: 7-1 L0 from a cursed chest
>With Robot: 6-1 L0

>>137642158
>no weapons drop here
>he never reached 0-1 L1 as fish

>>137642158
I have no idea what those numbers mean, but I assume I want to be taking as many alternate routes as possible?

>>137642853
dont take oasis

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post ammo

so is EtG dropping at midnight or is it going to be some fucking 1PM bullshit

>>137648659
I think midnight

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>>137648450

>>137648860
When I looked at the steam page 4 hours ago it said around 19 hours until release. So I would say sometime around 10-11 EST.

>>137648659
>>137648860
nope early morning

>>137649247
fucking gross
early morning like... what exactly
6? 8?
PST? EST? UTC?

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https://doseone.bandcamp.com/track/enter-the-gungeon
TYB Doseone
>>137648659
Steam page says 15 hours from now, so I hope that 7am PDT bullshit is preferable to 1pm PDT bullshit.

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>>137627445
i can't wait for an excuse to draw that bird boss

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>>137648450

>>137649679
sheeeeeit
still better than 1pm tho
thanks bro, didn't know the countdown was up on steam

>>137641326
trashtalk is bullshit, why can i understand it

>>137649534
I don't get why everyone just asks instead of looking when it's right the fuck there on the steam page.

>>137649746
move the face down a bit

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>>137652083
>>137649534
>>137650070
>>137649679
>>137649247
>>137649239
>>137648659

>>137652692
I think that he looks a bit more regal with his face all upwards. And I like that. It doesn't look as much like the bullet boys from Gungeon as it is, but I felt it was relevant.

A GUN

>>137653818
So I was right when I said around 10-11 AM EST.

>>137657327
THAT

>>137657901
seeem shootem skinem wearem mountemonthe waaaaaaall

>>137658053
CAN KILL THE WALL

>>137658290
I HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BLACKS

>>137658539
>BLACKS
What did he mean by this?

>>137658862
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSrTnWDTdwI

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>>137641326
>That filename

Why is this so fucking sad?
RIP /ntg/ we hardly knew ye.

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>>137660134
All good things must come to an end
That is how it must be

>>137602379
So any particular reason some people are going crazy for this game?

Doesn't seem like anything special.

>>137661525
It's really appealing for the kind of people who love these kind of games
So, apparently 26 people

>>137662158
sounds bout right

sometimes you just need a little more of gun

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>>137665279
>robot enters the gungeon
>finds the gun THAT CAN KILL THE PAST
>eats it

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>>137667013
>FLÄ'D'MUK!
>KHA VE'Ö D'Ö Ö!!!
>KHUN MUK, "D'MUK"...

How is the couch co op in enter the gungeon?

>>137668150

Egghead and his wife have a video of it on their channel. Haven't checked it out, I can't assume it's terrible though.

>>137657430
yeh

>>137662158
still more life than duelyst
>RIP Duelyst General

>>137668150
Items aren't shared between players, so you get what you agree to get separate of each other. Dead gungeoneer becomes a ghost and gets a rechargeable blank ability.

From what I've seen, it mainly suffers from the issue of not zooming out at all, only stretching the available space to fit both characters. Other than that, difficulty seems to scale well enough. I just imagine the more bullet-hell moments will result in one character inevitably tanking so the other has camera space to solo.

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>>137667880

I'm hoping GMG will mail these keys out at midnight

>>137602379
I fucking hate the phrase "roguelite". It's derivative, demeaning to the genere, and only used as a result of some popular Brit with ass cancer telling his fans to rename the genere because he was butthurt that non turnbased games were being called "roguelikes".

I'm not saying that we don't warrant our own name, because I think we do, but it should something like "action roguelike", ARL for short, or something entirely new.

I don't fucking know, I just hate that this genere is being dictated by a term that people came up with as a slander for the type of gameplay not being "worthy" of their ASCII ass nethack mod.

>>137670339

Welp, not much is going to change until developers themselves stop classifying them as such.

>>137670339
Huh, so the general should be called /arl/? Doesn't sound as catchy, and it doesn't seem like an insult to the genre

>>137670339
on the one hand I can understand not liking a name that gets chosen for you by someone you don't respect, but on the other hand I think it fits very well.

Nothing to do with butt-hurt: a rogue light is generally far less open-ended than a roguelike, is less mechanically complex, the runs tend to be shorter on average and the games are designed around quicker and more immediate gameplay, in some ways more forgiving than roguelikes.

I don't see it as slanderous at all.

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>>137669998

>>137672302
THICKER

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>>137673269

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Fuck, I didn't notice that this thread was up and made a new Nuclear Throne general. I miss /ntg/ I don't even like any other roguelites and I'm not interested in Gungeon at all.

Maybe interest will be rekindled when >Update 99 comes out.

>He picks Infusion

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>>137673558
>pick it up by accident from random item machine

>>137649247
nah its 12am on ps4

>>137673558
>>137673903
anyone hosting?
>>137673425
That's okay you can just talk about Nuclear Throne, no one is forcing other games on you. but try some other ones their pretty fun

>>137670982
I think that the only thing that'll change the situation is someone with as much clout as TB popping up and saying to stop. That's fairly unlikely though.

>>137671009
This is more of me venting a personal gripe than anything else. The general can, and probably should, stay as it is

>>137672258

I feel like "rogue-lite" is fairly demeaning. It was come up with by a group of people who didn't like the genere and literally means "lesser than roguelikes". It'd be like if guns were invented, but nobody had a name for what they were yet, so everybody just called them "bows" for a time, until bow users started saying "it's not a real bow! Bows have drawstrings! It doesn't take any skill to pull a trigger, but it's hard to pull a drawstring! Even a baby could use these! That's what they are, Baby-Bows!" And then the whole world just starts calling guns "baby-bows" because it's catchy without thinking about what it actually means.

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>>137674637
I don't really think the -lite suffix is meant to be demeaning. Games like Isaac, Nuclear Throne, Gungeon, etc are extremely different from roguelikes. Someone who enjoys a roguelite like Nuclear Throne might not enjoy a game like pic related, the current OP for Roguelike General. It's just a way to categorize the different genres.

>>137675176
Is that P.R.I.M.E.? Who the fuck plays that?

>>137675330
No idea, just took it from >>>/vg/rlg/. I don't know if I did that link correctly.

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>used to breeze through monsoon
>now I suck ass
Time to get back into it. Have the devs completely dropped RoR and moved onto Deadbolt? I would have at least liked a not terrible online functionality, maybe something like Terraria

>>137675176
I disagree. I feel like the term was made by people who don't care for this genere, and didn't want their "roguelikes" to be compared to "roguelites" because they were different in a way they did not enjoy, despite having numerous similarities. I feel like, if they meant it or not, they came up with a name for this genere that sounds more like a put-down to this style of game when we should have a name that can't be interperated in any way as "lesser" than the genere we're derivative of, and adequately points out not onl the similarities, but also radical differences of the two generes. That's why I like the term "action roguelike" it shows where we're from, shows how we differ, and isn't negatively charged. It's like the difference between RPGs and ARPGs, they aren't called "RPG-lites" just because they're different, so why do roguelites have to have a name that means "a roguelike, but simpler and lesser"?

>>137676034
Jesus anon
The creators of Rogue Legacy coined the term. Rogue Legacy itself being a roguelite

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>>137677079
could you say they left behind a legacy?

What makes a good rougelite?

>>137678840
Combat that requires skill/paying attention and not luck.
But then again, Risk of Rain is considered good.
Just randomly generated shit, and make it so things can fuck you up fast if you're an average retard

>>137678840
Whatever pleases my streamer overlords.

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>>137678840
Varied and unique powerups that have synergies with each other
Varied cast of characters to appeal to multiple fanbases
Bosses that are challenging and don't rely too heavily on bullet hell
Soundtrack that keeps the pace
Sound effects that satisfy the player
Different floor and boss room layouts to keep things fresh
new game + or similar mode that allows the player to keep playing with items and powerups they have earned

>>137679370
>RoR doesn't require skill

sounds like someone never played on /v/'s houserules

>>137680682
have those house rules? I forgot them.

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It's true and you can't deny it

>>137681970
that isn't the keeper.

>>137674637
Most people haven't even ever seriously played a real roguelike. Nethack is a roguelike. BoI, EtG, NT, etc. borrow a few elements from true roguelikes and hence are the "lite" version,

It isn't demeaning, it is just a better descriptor. Shit, Crypt of the Necrodancer is a hell of a lot more similar to a roguelike than BoI/NT/EtG.

>>137674637
this just smacks of insecurity

>>137678840
Enemies that are given a fair shake, decent level generation, and a certain level of difficulty. Leave RNG/PRNG to level generation, while giving enemies a clear and well-defined sense of logic.

>>137681970
>sucking

>>137681970
Keeper is much worse, especially when you get The Lost a Holy Mantle.

I wish that Gungeon would just come out on Steam already.

>>137602379
>Rouge-lite
So, pink?

>>137602651
Roguelikes and Roguelites are mortal enemies m8. You'd have more chance fusing Terraria and Starbound Generals.

Nuclear Throne already has it's general so if we can supplant that with this we'll have a healthy userbase. NT is already dying, and Gungeon will probably speed that up.

Anyways, 4 more hours or so.

>rouge
STOP

>>137699190
rooglikes

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Would someone kindly post the unlock sheet for NT please?

Going to start taking this a lil' bit more seriously now I've grown to like the game so much.

Gungeon when

B U L L E T
U
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>roguelite
Can't we just call them top-down shooters? Twinstick shooters? Dungeon Shmups? I see no reason to associate something like Isaac, Throne, or Gungeon with games like Rogue Legacy.

>>137703218
If you merge with those communities, you might have a shred of discussion here to keep the thread afloat.

>>137703218
Eh, we could probably use the numbers, and it's nice to have a place to discuss those games.

>>137603126
>also that general is almost dead too from the look of
No surprise. Game's boring as fuck. It rely on autism to do loop over and over again.

>>137705394
You're fucking retarded.

>>137626639
>dominated by the RNG
That's the point of it. I just found certain aspects of the game becomes obsolete once you knew which guns are the best like phase mine.

>>137705879
>That's the point of it.

I have a D20 I could be playing with if that's the case.

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I'M FUCKING READY

will someone share the game through mega when its released?

>>137709641
It is already out but I sure hope so. It's on GOG too so maybe someone can get that version and share it.

https://openload.co/f/tKorcnjFP7Y
steam only files
dont know if it works

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>tfw /ntg/ is fucking kill

>>137638180
Nice to see that you're not dead.

>>137649746
pretty gud

Shit I went into a room with the Witch Pistol I got, saw some big motherfucker, and turned him into a chicken on first hit.

This thing doesn't destroy loot when it kicks in does it?

>>137680982
Glass + Spite + Honor
Command if feeling babbymode

Also what's that fucker "Something for the collection? I will compensate you" do?

If he'll buy my Witch Pistol I'll sell.

>>137711063
Nvm looked at the controls, drop gun is F.

>>137711379
Oh nevermind, crashed on actually choosing a character.

>>137711482
GOG when?

https://kat.cr/enter-the-gungeon-t12379730.html

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>>137660134
>when you were there since the start of /ntg/
>>137673558
how is it bad?
it works wonders with artifact of glass, you can easily have 9999 HP by your third loop with multiple of them

>>137674109
>hosting in risk of rain
top kek

>>137681970
he's actually pretty fun with holy mantle, keeper was a nice idea but was runined by fatmund's spoiled steak

sorry for replying to shitloads of people
it's pretty nice to see people from most of the generals I was frequently on that died.

Is Gungeon good then?

Seems really slow and not terribly varied, despite the adorable artstyle and fuckable puns.

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Top Tier boss weapon tbqh

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>gungeon is out
>go to check it
>15 bucks
>4 DLCs
>bundle is 4 (FOUR) percent off
Why are indie devs so fucking jewish right now?
First no sales on nuclear throne, now sales (only on the bundle) that barely matter.

>>137712515
then don't buy you stupid goy it's not even necessary and you are still complaining

>>137712515
>LACKING READING COMPREHENSION
>IN CURRENT YEAR

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>>137712663

>>137712515
Isn't that just 1 gun, a comic and the soundtrack?

>>137712690
>>137712515

>this window will close in 3 seconds

>>137712805
3 seconds have passed, what now?

>>137712990
you die

So how is Gungeon?
Watching JewToob people play it, it seemed to me like success was very dependent on getting a good gun on the first floor.

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>>137602379
>Rouge-lite
>Rouge

>an actual Rogue-lite general
I love you guys.
>>137710382
Oh wow, the only character missing is Chomper Plant A?

>>137713191
Yeah.

>>137631918
Replying to an old-ass post but I just wanted to chime in to say that I love how Necrodancer did this. They have zone shortcuts, unlockables, you can even start with bonus health and whatnot, but in the "All Zones Mode", all items are unlocked, none of your bonuses apply, and you start from zone 1. And All Zones is unlocked from the start. It's the perfect compromise.

>>137713246
Oh wow, yeah, that's SO MUCH WORSE than /v/.

What the fuck is up nu-/v/tards thinking their ocean of piss is a fine standard to judge other boards by?

>>137713246
>/v/
plz go and stay go

>>137713523
Eh, there's some decent people on /v/. /vg/ has some severe cancer. But all things considered, /vg/ is better on a per-thread basis than /v/.
See: April 1st and the hunt for Anthony Burch.

>>137713562
>>137713523
>defending the reddit fag in your general
Sick

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>>137699557
Here you go

Has the GoG version been released yet? the IGG release constantly crashes

>Bitching about 3 DLC that have been there since pre-release
>One is a digital comic and one is the soundtrack
>And one is a joke gun
How is this even an argument?

>>137713641
Reddit is just as bad as /v/, though.
While I admit that not checking them before whining about them was a silly thing, /v/ retards are still much worse
so check my 7 instead

>So used to Nuclear throne accidentally used medkit while trying to change guns

>>137713860(You)

>>137713919
Mousewheel forward is use medkit?

>>137713627
It's exactly the same cancer in both, and on reddit too these days, most of the internet seems to contract the same shit now it's getting busy.

>>137713698
Thank you!

>>137713919
I keep using a medkit to roll.

>>137714123
>not using space to change guns in NT
shitter

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I made a promise to my friends not to play it until they get here... I am really tempted to play EtG right now. I know, instead what character should I get some crowns on?

>>137714191
Medkit can roll?

>>137714232
Eyes. Also start going for Gold wep runs for a good starter.

>>137714232
Don't listen to your friends, play it as much as you want.

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Ok, is something supposed to happen?
Did I do wrong?

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mfw this proc 3 times in a bossfight

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>>137714412
Forgot image,woops

>>137714328
I could store a golden wrench or golden splinter gun in proto chests if I want the good golden weapons on other characters, I just needed to know what character to play because I can't choose. (They are all pretty good except rogue)

>>137714706
>[current year]
>using proto chests to share golden weapons

>>137714749
I don't want to cheat by using Co op to get golden weapons. At least the proto chest was made for that.

>>137714813
>Using the Proto-Chest for gold weapons
>Not getting them all separately
I have yet to weapon share a Golden once and I'm running ~6 Wrenches.
On Laptop, no access to saves nor progress sheet.

There's no way in hell the Scrambler should have 120 ammo.

Fires an egg which hatches into homing bullets on impact.

Can anyone else hear audio static after alt+tab on linux? Asking just in case problem is only on my end.

>>137714973
I mean... I can get them all separately but I just don't have the luck. I only take golden wrench and golden splinter gun, everything but that shows up when I am looping.

>>137715028
Seriously it only took like 25 or 30 rounds of this to kill the Bird boss, and I could fire it at a wall while behind cover and it would hit him.

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post neat guns you've found
>Eye of the beholster
Piercing shots and spawns a mini beholster when the clip is empty

Torrentwhen.

>>137620583
>tfw I have'nt played RoR after 9 months >give it a chance yesterday
>going with bombs, low hp and elite mobs
>choose Loader
>I can still wreck shit and obliberated final boss at ~30 minutes

Yesh, that's the stuff.

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Why does this keep happening?
Is it because I'm a piratefag?

Does someone have the GoG version and is kind enough to upload it?

>>137715536

I found a gun that charges up and then shoots an anvil. It goes through enemies and has huge knockback, meaning that it can hit the same enemy twice (if it doesn't just flat out one-shot them, which it did for a lot of them).

I'm already waifuing manuel

and someone please share gungeon comics? I don't have money for buying collective edtion

Nuclear throne > gungeon

>>137717276
Enter the Nuclear Dungeon, when?
I wish I knew RPG Maker so I could make a NT RPG fangame.

>>137717276
60fps hack WHEN?

>>137717276
pretty much, I just pirated it, it's fun but really slow.

the art is better and the theme is cute, CUTE.

I'll buy it when I get paid but I was expecting more from this desu

I found a banana you throw that explodes like a cluster grenade into more bananas and a ghostbuster proton jetpack

>>137717440
Where did you get it, if I might ask?

>>137717276
Nuclear Throne 2 when?

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>>137717432
>nuclear fuckboys never

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OMG!! devs browse /tv/!!

>>137717743
>5 Nights at Radboy's
One day.

>>137717750
>>>/v/333280325
Kindly never come back.

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>>137715536
Double Helix thingy.

>>137718018
That shot pattern seems horrible. Like worse than Tiny Planet in Isaac.
>TFW actually got gud with Tiny Planet and juggling shots on enemies

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>pic related
>steam files
>delete steam api
>run in sandbox
>just works
literally no DRM, delete steamemu if you're using it, buggy shit.

I just wish NT wasn't 30fps because the developers are incompetent, can we also discuss why they slapped release on a high 90 build and called it finished?

>>137717513
>kickass
>download igg. gungeon
>delete literally everything but pic related

it has no anti-piracy
>it has no anti-piracy
it has no anti-piracy
>it has no anti-piracy

I can't stress this enough jesus christ, get a friend to upload it, I don't trust these shifty 'crackers' who upload unprotected games with emulators/false libraries and call them cracked, it's disgusting.

source:me
I'm done shitposting

>>137717943
This

>>137718232
Skidrow's Zippyshare is also legit.
Source: this Anon

>>137718143
It has good damage and rate of fire. And because of the pattern it's good on big targets and masses. I kept killing enemies behind pillars and bosses were a cake walk to shoot from long range.

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>>137718232
thank you

>>137718143
It's easy enough to get into a "sweet spot", where it has good DPS. and it's also a good crowd clearer.

>>137718427
it also doesn't need the ali123 steam library/crack it's using, it's probably there for good measure but at least it's not steamemu which is probably crashing anons.

>>137712718
>>137712515
it's not even a new gun, just an early unlock of the gun

the gun is in the game without the DLC, you just have to get to it to unlock it.

>>137713275
yeah that was basically perfect
more roguelites should allow this

>>137713728
a joke gun UNLOCK
the gun is in the game no matter what
the DLC just unlocks it without you having to get to it.

What's the difference between roguelike and roguelite? I see a lot of people whining about people not understanding.

>>137719251
>from the fack that ntg is dead

>>137719378
>dead
not while this exists

>>137719256
>joke gun is an unlock
I still don't see the problem, it's an optional "collector's edition."

>>137719105
Oh cool, was wondering what that meant.

>>137719378
in this case "lite" pretty much means it's real-time instead of turn-based, but still has random generation and permadeath

>>137719714
no that's my point
it's not a problem
the "DLC" gun is actually available to anyone even if they haven't bought the DLC

>>137719905
Ah. I thought you were the fag saying it was bad and bitching, sorry.
Have a great day Anon.
Back to /v/ for an ADVENTURE thread not hosted by nap.

>>137719714
No, as in you can get the gun without the collectors edition.

>>137719378
Roguelike is a game with permadeath and tile based movement really. The permadeath thing is the biggie though.

Roguelites have shit like unlocks that persist through plays.

>still no GOG version

why.png

Where do i spend my Hegemony Credits? Sorry for asking but i can't figure it out

>>137720258
the shop's unlocked on, i think level 2 if you find the key
it might be random, appeared for me on my first run

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>melted rock
>"explode corpses"
nice one

>cannonbalrog
what just happened?
i didn't even have time to think

>>137674637
That's why I go with Roguelike-like or just Roguelike if there aren't any artists around

>>137722127
>artists
Fuck, *autists

>>137722127
>>137722242
what's the difference

>>137721892
He was pretty easy to me. I preferred him to the fucking Gorgun.

I hate that there's no option to completely autoreload. Makes firing semi automatic guns a bit more tedious than it should be.

marine>pilot>hunter>rogue

prove me wrong and most of active items are trash don't buy it

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>>137722242
>play EtG
>4 starting characters
>only one white male, and he's a thief with a good relationship with merchants
>edgy sheboon
>law-enforcing nigger [sic]
>le poor white woman who got beaten by her ex and got convicted
When will developers and publishers stop pushing their crappy political agendas in video games?

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>>137722708
>marine is best
my nigger

>>137723037
>not liking POLICE BRUTALITY

>>137723037
I didn't mean to quote anybody, by the way.

>>137722553
Between Roguelike and Roguelike-like? It's just another degree of separation from Rogue. The former draws the majority of its design decisions from Rogue while the latter still retains the unique aspects but has drastically changed other parts about it. It's not the best definition ever, but I think it fits better than Rogue-lite which to me makes me think of just "babby's first Rogue-clone" which doesn't really describe a game like Spelunky or Isaac or NT at all.

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>getting into the first hidden level
>that difficulty spike
Well now

>>137723037
>who got beaten by her ex
wh
what
you mean her double crossing partner who got her locked away?
stop projecting, captain ethicsingamesjournalism

>>137602379
Reminder that you could get a Cobalt Hammer from a key giveaway on the EtG site.

When can you use marine's active?

>>137723927
any time it looks like its out of charge but it is just dark

>got a cloranthy ring which halves roll's recovery time
>kick ass
>then die to fire from 2.5 hearts

>>137722553
"Rogue" = the game Rogue
"Rogue-like" = like the game Rogue
"Rogue-lite" ( or "Roguelike-like" ) = lite version of a Rogue-like

For a game to be considered a rogue-like it must be tile-based, turn-based, have procedurally generated content and feature character progression as well as permanent death.

Rogue-lites usually have most of the features listed above but miss one or two to be considered true rogue-likes. Most of the time, it's the turn-based gameplay that gets axed in favor of real time.

Anyway, there's no need to be strict with semantics and if you ask anybody who isn't a full-blown autist about their favorite rogue-likes they'll often cite Isaac or FTL.

Why didn't you name yourself /rlg/ like any self-respecting Rogue-lite General.

>>137725289
Already taken?

>>137725752
That's the joke, it's just to trigger the Rogue-like General.

>>137725815
Why not connect both?
It would make this very alive.
There's barely a difference between both anyway.

>>137726047
>there's barely a difference
nah there's a significant enough diff to me that having them separate makes sense.

like the difference between 4x and RTS, imo

>playing enter the pirated dungeon
>molotov launcher
>shoot it in a tight hallway
>door opens
>"what could possibly go wrong"
>go through the flames
>take damage forever until I die

>>137713246
>>137713641
>>137717943
Fuck off, plago.

>>137726372
Only one of those are me, hun. Who is this "plago."

>>137726516
Sorry for mistaking you for him.
He's a retarded /v/ baby.

>>137727076
Ah, no problem then. Pretty sure he doesn't come to /vg/ cause it's "cancer."

>>137727172
Well, he was (sadly) on /ntg/.
I hope he didn't come here.

>>137602651
too much autism and they feel a need to defend their dead general.

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How the fuck do you solve this shit?

right now my biggest criticism of EtG is that the death animation is too fucking long.

>>137728876
Roll into new minecarts. Does anyone no where the bulletpart in stage 2 is?

Really considering if I should buy Gungeon, how's the gun and item variety? Lots of unlocks?
Also, how many floors are there?
Are there branching paths like Isaac? (Chest/Dark Room)

>>137729807
NT and EtG makes me remember Terraria and Starbound.
One is better and the other one is not as good but has pretty graphics.
Though starbound was complete utter shit while gungeon is decent.

>>137730772
There's between 190 and 200 guns. Let that sink in.
4/5 main floors. And side stuff, no real "branches" anyone has found.

So is gungeon worth it?

>>137731004
There's an alternate floor 2 but I don't know what happens when you clear it.

>>137731056
http://opencritic.com/game/1678/enter-the-gungeon

dude score is fucking great

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Holy shit this fucking gun ez modo.

Deals a lot of damage,and leaves a swarm of angry bees that destroy everything.

So what do you do with those altars that are empty?

>>137731056
I guess so, but I pirated it.

>>137732248
Apparently you need to place an item on it that drops in the first secret level.

>>137732601
>First secret level
wos dat

>>137732727
In the first stage, there is a water barrel somewhere. Roll it into the fireplace, pull the switch and use two keys on the trapdoor in the secret room the switch reveals.

>Try to play the gungeon
>it fucking crashes again
Fuck this shit I'd rather play me some old nt.

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For any NT players here, I am at the captain fight right now trying to get my rogue B skin, Should I use a double minigun or bouncer shotgun? I do not want to replace my frog pistol, so golden splinter gun is not an option.

>>137734036
If you survive for more than a few seconds, double Minigun is gonna be better.

>>137734036
>shotgun shoulders
>euphoria
>lucky shot
>heavy heart
u ok
I know you got crown of destiny and shit
but you're not going to beat her
pick bouncer shotgun

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every time I do this fight they always constantly charge me to the point it is impossible to dodge :/ Better stick to double looping I guess, it is a lot easier anyways. I will never get rogue B skin, RIP dreams of 100% completion

can we please agree that nuclear throne is very mediocre...

>>137732138
I just got that axe-shotgun, seemed like it'd be really neat but I quickly found out the melee part is basically useless. Every enemy is either very dangerous to get close to, or just dodges away when you get in range. I think I only managed to hit 1 enemy with the reload swing.

>>137734512
Git gud or play a gud character.

>>137734558
Yeah.

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Nice

>>137734287
I had to unlock crown of destiny, rogue is a horrible character so I didn't have any crown unlocks.

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>>137734558
>...
>please agree to my opinion

What does Marine's passive (the gun book) do?
I kind of want to main him.

>>137734815
fuck off nigger nuclear throne is shit

>>137734874
Check the Ammonomicon. It reduces reload time and increases accuracy I think.
>>137734921
Check the map, there should be a new room somewhere.

>>137732138
Stinger plus ice bullets is just bomb

>>137735023
Yeah but it's some good shit.

>>137735023
it's definitely not for me, but there's a lot of content there and it's pretty well put together. easy to see why people like it.

what's up with stage 2 bosses

>got the BFG from DOOM
>the star wand from Kirby
You guys find anything?

>>137736340
I found the void shotgun.
Shit is broken, carried me to stage 4.

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porn when?

>>137736625
I'd rather have porn of Marine, guy's perfect.
A gatling bird is fine too.

>>137736797
are you fag?

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>>137736625
>that torso
What the shit

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>>137736939
n-no
But I'd rather fuck the best playable character or a muscular bird than an anorexic "the husk" mermaid.

Found an alter, any tips on finding the secret armor? I didnt see any cracked walls.

Anyone know what to do with the guy in the grate in shops?

>>137737515
You can give him guns for cash.

Going down the first floor grate with just a shot gun was not a good idea

>tfw can't get past stage 3
>tfw shitter