/fog/ Fallout General

first for nate a cuck

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First for survival snack

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look what you've done faggots

I haven't seen it listed or on Nexus, so I'm gonna ask here.
Is there a mod to get rid of that awful detail-load-line? My fade distance is set to maximum in every category, and the horizon is super far, but maybe 300 meters ahead there is always a noticeable line. Pls halp.

fifth for let me use console on survival immediately

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Xth for filthy casuals ruining the game yet again

Why the hell did Buff wait until the end of the thread to make that visual pun?

That's what's really important here.

>>137215476
Then help me kick this cunt in the balls

https://community.bethesda.net/thread/4074

>Please please please keep mods and console disabled
>One of the most amazing things was removing the console and mods.
> Allowing people do whatever they want in survival mode would completely ruin the experience.

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>>137215607
Fallout 4 is already ruined by casuals with how dumbed-down it is.

What date do you exit the vault in Fallout 4?

How long has your character been living in the wasteland? I want to try and get a character up in in game years.

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Is there an even more OP legendary besides explosive minigun?

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>>137215438
nice

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>>137215438
ghouls are actually pretty cute in 4

>>137215754
For some reason I imagined that you'd turned Nick into a super deathbot

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>>137215643

End the thread on a good note

/fog/ needs more good notes lately

Also Spongebob's favorite holiday soon

>>137215754
What the fuck is happening here?

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>faglords complain about the casualization of the series
>devs do the right thing and revamp a tougher game mode
>temporary mod disablement to limit conflicts/bugs
>disable console because cheaters
>get shit from faglords about difficulty and being dumb enough to get stuck in the geometry

everytiem
>mfw

>>137216074
>I-I've never experienced bugs! Console is unnecessary!!

meme more dude

>>137215902
>Expect Daisy
>It's not Daisy
You're a bad person.

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>>137216010

Wounding automatic laser shotgun

Shoots like 166 beams per second and each beam does ~33~ damage, 30 of which is BLEED.

>>137216010
looks like a bleeding gatling laser or maybe scattered automatic laser rifle

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>There will never be a companion voiced by Tony Jay ever
>There won't ever be another villanous fallout antagonist who will ever call you "my dear human" and give you a non-canon game over ending

>>137215754
I know I could just look it up, but is that hospital actually connected to Railroad quests? I just stumbled upon it randomly and it was really enjoyable.

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>>137216189
>i ruined my shit with pre geck mods

>>137216324

Yes. One of the later RR quests sends you to that hospital to find out what happened to the RR members there.

I actually visited that hospital like 30 hours before I actually discovered the Railroad as a faction and not just some background lore/story in some holotapes.

>>137215742
These stupid arguments could have easily been avoided by just letting everything be toggled on or off, like any other setting video games have.

>>137216074
Casualization isn't solved by removing options, especially in a buggy-ass god damn game that, among other lovely things, is likely to crash on you before you have a chance to save next. This is why Survival Mode, as it stands, is shit. It needs to have every feature be an option.

>>137216324
Yeah, the doctor sends you there on one quest to check on a safehouse that has gone quiet.

Spoilers: Raiders happened.

>>137216074
>Get stuck on a fence
>Have to load an hour old save instead of 2 seconds of tcl

>>137216402
They think the only way to fix the issues is by downloading a pregeck mod that lets them use more pregeck mods

>>137215754
Was it raiders to the fucking railroad itself that decided to build a settlement around the fact that THERES A FUCKING DEATHCLAW IN THE BASEMENT.

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>>137216528
>These stupid arguments could have easily been avoided by just letting everything be toggled on or off, like any other setting video games have.
These stupid arguments could have easily been avoided IF YOU CUNTBADGERS REALIZED THIS WAS A FUCKING BETA AND THEY WANT FEEDBACK ON IT FOR THEIR GODDAMN GAME, NOT THEIR GAME PLUS MODS WITH CONSOLED IN LEGENDARIES AND GOD MODE.

>>137216402
>>137216608

>mods caused your character to get locked into terminals, stuck on certain slopes and rarely have your pip boy vanish on day one of release

hint: i didn't have mods on day one of release

pete pls go

Remember that robots are our friends, not our servants!

>>137216616
"Dude is this really a safe area for synths, there's a deathclaw in the basement"

"Well, at least there won't be a mouse problem like at the Church".

Worst faction.

>>137216715
But Bethesda said that they haven't disabled mods.

>>137216773
>tfw you will never hug your robot bestie Codsworth
I'm sad.

>>137216826

How does a Deathclaw even get trapped in the hospital basement? Can't it just get out the way it came in?

Or did it happen to make its nest there without alerting anyone in the area?

>>137216402
>>137216608
>what is setstage
>what is TCL
>what is equipitem
>what is moveto player
>what is markfordelete and disable

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My ss can beat up your ss (post ss)

>>137216916
raiders lead it in there?

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>>137216945
no

>>137216528
You can toggle it anon, but once you turn it off you can't turn it back again twice

>>137216848
Some fucking hack community manager said that. Dollars to donuts they don't have any direct line of communication to the studio and work off press releases and a sheet of guidelines.

>>137216826
I hated them as soon as I met them. They just felt like the cast out of some cheesy movie. Besides Deacon. He was alright.

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>>137216985

>>137216715
Anon, calm your tits. Console is currently disabled as "a FEATURE", meaning it will be carried through into the official release unless Bethesda change their minds.

Also, they've repeatedly stated that mods aren't disabled despite this already being verified by several users.

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>>137216773
They're machines, incapable of true sapience.
I'm their Father's Father. They live to serve me.

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>>137216985
>>137217064

Fuck, has ADVENT somehow managed to infiltrate the Commonwealth too?

>>137216916
It fell through all the floors after tripping on an IV stand, hence the big holes in them.

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>>137216985

>>137216560
The lack of awareness Bethesda has in regards to what kinds of games they produce is fucking staggering.

>>137216715
"It's a beta" is no excuse for fucking up something so simple as "give everyone options".

>>137216995
That's fucking stupid.

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>>137217064
>>137217208
why don't you have an alium hybrid waifu yet

>>137216621
how the fuck did you do that???

>>137217272
It's either full Ayy or nothing.

>>137217250
>That's fucking stupid.
That's the joke. You're fucking stupid

>>137217178

IV machines truly are the work of the devil.

They never stop beeping, you have to babysit them every hour or they start beeping again, and their bases are juuuust big enough to not fit anywhere conveniently and long enough to trip you when you least expect it.

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prequel DLC when

like OA but not fucking made up

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>>137215208
I saw this on the Nexus and just got it. I most likely won't keep it.

What do you think, anons?

>>137217250
>"It's a beta" is no excuse for fucking up something so simple as "give everyone options".
You're either being deliberately obtuse or the modern vidya industry has warped your understanding of the term beta.

It's a fucking opt-in, clearly marked beta which they've said since Survival mode was announced was intended to get balance feedback from players. It's not intended for you to pick and choose. If they wanted details on the number of people who toggled on save anywhere or fast travel they'd make those options.

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>>137217537
hopefully never

>>137217552
>no visible neckseam
has it begun?

>>137217552
Does it come in men's? I like the jean texture

>>137217074
>Also, they've repeatedly stated that mods aren't disabled despite this already being verified by several users.

Sometimes the poor bastards just have no idea what the fuck they've done, do they? I mean, if it's up there in red on the Nexus, *maybe you've disabled mods*.

>>137217537
howcome they get the shitty standard combat armor and not the tough version? also why do they need infanty when they have a t60 soldier with minigun???

>>137217552

Looks preddy gud. Nice texture on the sweater, makes it look authentic. Same for the jeans and the jacket/scarf(?) tied around the waist.

>>137217592
>goth battlecoat

first the pip-boy, now maxsons' coat?

why do people paint everything black

>>137217686
>designers want feedback from the beta
>announce it will come out some time via community managers and PR
>no mention of modding being disabled so nobody thinks of it
>survival beta comes out
>no mods because they don't want tainted results
>nobody tells the PR people that
>they relay the information they have, which is sadly wrong
>CONSPIRACY

>>137217729

They probably don't have enough T60 suits for all of their infantry. I think they were patrolling a residential area anyway, so they probably didn't need a full squad of power-armored dudes to keep the peace, nor any of the really heavy combat armor for the regular infantry dudes. Also, it's a cutscene.

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>>137182178
Posted in the other thread cause didn't know it was dead.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/439516/Fallout%204/Stark.zip

>>137217729
>howcome they get the shitty standard combat armor and not the tough version?
weight?

also why do they need infanty when they have a t60 soldier with minigun???
5 guns>1 gun

>>137215438
Of course she has cancer she's smoking!
I don't even know what this is but I get cancer from looking at it.

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>>137217831

>>137217590
You know why you're arguing? You're arguing because you choose to willfully ignore the fact that this has never been an issue for the beta before, and therefore willfully ignore that most people who modded the game didn't expect this problem to arise, hence their ire.

You're not even trying to inform anyone, you're just being deliberately antagonistic.

Is it working out for you?

>>137217729
Support. He's more of a vehicle than a standard infantryman. He'll draw gunfire while they spread out and engage.

>>137218020
hello tumblr

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>>137216945
Oh yeah, well my SS has an everything proof armor and an army of robutts

Survival needs more animals or ways to fish or grow crops on your own

You shouldn't starve to death if you dont leave Sanctuary for 3 days

>>137218262
>all that clipping

just fuck my shit up senpai

>>137218314
Hunt and cook you giant faggot.

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>>137218340
It's awful, right?

I don't even notice it half the time, though

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>>137216945
'ok'

>>137218262
>operating in almost solid white
It's almost like you're retarded

>>137217590
"Balance" is only needed when one refuses to offer up anything other than a package deal with no options, which is stupid and unnecessary.

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>>137217686
>>137217895
what do you guys make of the fact that the game (at least in survival beta) now calls out to mods.services.bethesda.net ?

pic related, taken by someone else

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>>137217537
I want a full expansive pre-war dlc that expands on nora and nate and the pre war world

>>137217895
>>no mods because they don't want tainted results

You have no idea what you're talking about. You have completely made up this being a factor.

>>137218472
I sided with the Institute, so you tell me

>>137218415

>Hunt

Everything's dead. It's dumb that you need to eat like 10 deer steaks a day to avoid going hungry. Each food item should have like a kcalorie score, and you need 2000~ day, with sprinting causing higher calorie consumption

It's disappointing that Automatron didn't include a way to romance curie without still turning her into a synth.

>>137218484
Paid mods 2 electric boogaloo.

>>137218484
That's the mod platform for consoles, for sure.

Huh.

>>137218102
>you choose to willfully ignore the fact that this has never been an issue for the beta before
You choose to wilfully ignore that previous betas have been bug fixes or hype-building stealth releases in the case of Automatron.

You're arguing because you're invested in the narrative that Bethesda is some evil fucking empire out to ruin modders' fun and/or are pissy that Survival mode isn't exactly like Hardcore in New Vegas.

>>137218484
I'd read the T&Cs closely to see if it calls that out. Might be a way to report usage statistics for the beta.

>>137218552
>I have never tried to develop software: the post

>kill 2 legendary albino mirelurk hunters
>turn around
>fucking mirelurk king coming at me at mach 3

TOO SPOOKY

>>137218484
they want to know what the most popular mods are so they can steal them and pass them off as their own creations, just like every "new" feature in bethesda games

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>>137218552
You underestimate how retarded people who use mods can be

>>137218746
It'll sure as shit be available for PC too. Nobody will use it because of the Nexus and hopefully a decent mod organizer, but Zenimax will demand it exist as an option.

>>137218909
>option.
I very much doubt that.

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>>137218484
This is what happens when I try to visit the place.

>>137218668
>implying that shit would fly
90+% of mods are shit

>>137218748
>You choose to wilfully ignore that previous betas have been bug fixes or hype-building stealth releases in the case of Automatron.

These are opinions, not facts. I can understand why you'd hold those opinions because often bugs that were gratuitously reported in the beta would turn up in the official patches, but they are opinions nonetheless.

And you're just wrong about everything else.

>>137218484
>>137218909
>>137219009
Nexus is kill

>>137219009
Ok, let me rephrase: They may want to make it the only place you can get Fallout 4 mods but they'll backflip on it faster than paid Skyrim mods when the backlash hits. If they're that dumb in the first place.

>>137219160
>facts are opinions if they disagree with my story
God I wish I could be as deluded as you, honestly.

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Anyone recognise the mod this exoskeleton armor is from? I need it.

>>137219192
and nothing of value was lost
>shitty community
>no quality control
>horrible moderation

Seriously though who's gonna host a new site?
>the good shit only

Does anyone know how to get the object ID of something through clicking on it in the console?

>>137219326
The only place for console mods? Sure. But on the PC? I doubt it. They didn't come out of last year's debacle unscathed. Even the websites that went easy on them were still critical of the terms, and there was hardly a website that didn't talk about it.

>>137218801
Surely you can detect when something is caused by mods and when it isn't. Especially when all this really involves is a couple of guys in Beth playing a modded version of the game. You soon learn what shape the errors take.

I get TTW struggling with that, but when you have so many just playing the base game and you yourself have the base game as a reference point how would this be a problem? Especially given this is all an assumption that it wouldn't be useful for beth (and the modding community) to know what mods set shit off. After all, they want to make a lot of DLC.

>>137219534
That's pretty man.
I too am now curious

>>137219638
I wanna fuck those tits and rub my cum in that scar

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>>137219534
>Exoskeleton

That's Cross's shit, I shouldn't have even clicked the image.

>MFW fucking raider armour exosuits are made before Institute armour.

>>137219534
Looks simply like the CYBER Exo-Skeleton mod with the Kellogg attachments (part of the mod).
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/8609/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9422/?

>FO4 concept art has a bow
>FO4 has no bow

WHYYY

Literally all they had to do was copypasta it from Skyrim and BAM done

>>137219534
What tree mod is that? They look so much more crisp than my trees.

>>137219651
That's why I said "if."

I am 100% certain they'll use Bethesda.net as a normies' modding portal, with their own downloader/installer. I'm just very skeptical that they'd piss in the pool again so soon and make it the only way to mod. (Which we know it's not, since we have mods now. The only way they could do it is to have GECK mods exclusively upload to their service, and that's just begging for another shitstorm of bad PR.)

>>137219808
>play unmodded Survival
>five shitty raiders are a challenge if you don't act carefully
>play modded Survival
>maybe even just download the Survival beta and forget you're using mods
>with increased raider spawns you get seven instead of five and get fucked over constantly
>go on beta forums and bitch
>you're a shitcunt end user and don't list mods/even acknowledge you use mods in your whine post

Go look at the Bethesda forums and tell me you want those people to give you feedback without an extremely tight control on the circumstances of play.

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>>137217552
Here's another.

I was too lazy to turn off my HUD opacity.

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anyone know what causes this?
probably reshade's fault

>>137220083
Like so much of Fallout 4, it seems they ran out of time, and it will probably make it into dlc somewhere along the line.

>>137220297
This is why you never inject Psycho directly into your tear ducts, Cait.

>>137220193
>Bitching about the game being hard on survival mode
>as opposed to CTD or textures no longer being there, or recipes going wrong or not healing right or diseases being fucking weird.

Okay, if this is happening right now, I concede. End of story.

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>just finished Nick's quest for the first time ever
>have a large reaction image folder
>even went so far as to organize it and take tender care of them all over the years
>anything from memes to laughing girls to deep dark shit like Toonami related images
>have nothing to convey how I am feeling after the end of Nick's quests
>emotionally drained I believe the kids call it nowadays
wew holy shit

>>137220732
If you find a picture of somebody hugging a robot please post it here for future use in Nick related posts.

>>137220297
wetness i think

>>137220732
Well if you just finished it, maybe Nick's behavior is fresh in your mind. Do you think his altruism is actually a foil for self harm? That's what I think.

>>137220930
>foil
I don't think you're using that word correctly.

>>137220053
Thanks.

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>>137220930
What?

>>137221034
I'm using it perfectly.

>Jackets and Coats of the Commonwealth uses vanilla armor slots
>can't put all my legendary armor on, and a bomber jacket, and hide the armor pieces
fug

>>137221261
Well either your high school education is way above mine but I have no idea what you are talking about unless you are refering to companion AI always being "faulty"

Randomly all my mods seem to have just fucking stopped working today.

I don't recall having done anything, any updates or something I missed that might have busted things?

>>137221475
Did you download survival?

>>137221475
Did you download the beta for Survival mode? That disables mods, and even when you go back to the normal version it resets your plugins.txt

>>137221475
the new survival update disables mods

>>137221634
>>137221654

I don't think so?

I mean you have to do that intentionally right?

>>137218484
They said back during E3 that Bethesda.net was gonna be their mod hosting platform, are you that surprised?

>>137221745
Yeah it's an option in Steam.

Check your plugins.txt anyway, you might have missed setting it read only.

>>137221261
A foil is a character that contrasts with another character to highlight the qualities of the character it contrasts with. qualities, actions, and motivations cannot be foils to one another. What Nick's altruism may be is an excuse to hurt himself. A reason to put himself in harm's way so that he may one day be destroyed.

Holy fuck I love fallout 2. Theres just so much.....I don't want to say depth, but I'm trying to describe how well put together and fleshed out the world is.

>>137221745
wait yes, I somehow was.

Ughhhhh

>>137221860
>implying his brain didn't just translate that as PAID MODS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>137221157
Okay, it occurred to me first when it's suggested Nick be hooked up to Kellogg's brain implant with the warning that doing so could be incredibly dangerous. Nick immediately goes "Let's do it", not in a "It's for the best" way, which you could interpret it as if you weren't really thinking about it, but in a way that suggested he jumped at the opportunity to be in harms way.

That led me to reflect on how he is constantly putting himself in harms way, and how he uses the Original Nick's altruism to push that. Why would he need to tear himself apart repairing things in diamond city? You don't see anyone else doing that.

"You look like you lost a fight with a deathclaw" "Who says I lost?" replies Nick, as if there was actually purpose in his getting more disfigured.

I just bought the first fallout on Steam the other day, I've never played it before and the only other fallout games I've played is 3, New Vegas, and a little bit of 4. Could anyone give me some tips before I spend my entire weekend playing this game?

>>137222192
I think its that he sees his life as a borrowed one and thus less valuable than than lives of people who are not brain scans in husks.

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For those of you who actually buy games, greenmangaming is selling the season pass for 29.99 USD right now and you can use SPRING20 to take it down to 24 USD

>>137222325
check out the brotherhood boradcast, going to dimond city helps open things up, the settlement stuff eventually stops having any meaning, settlements are never super happy

>>137221384
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/foil

To put it simply, his altruistic nature puts his self harming tendencies in good light (That is to say, somewhat disregarded as being in existence separate from his altruism). I think the self harming aspect of his actions is just as conscious, though.

>>137222192
I don't think he's suicidal or actively seeks to put himself in harms way, but I do think he at least considers himself lesser than the real Nick, and thus doesn't put as much value on not harming himself.

>>137222552
>>137222192
Cops tend to put themselves in harms way a lot.

Not really sure what angle you are getting at here

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>>137222468
>the first fallout

Lrn 2 reed dipsht

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>tfw no pre-war dlc

>>137215438
Quality b8.

>Wake up hungry
>Eat an entire brahmin worth of meat
>Eat 3 radroaches worth of meat
>Eat some other shit
>Still hungry

ok

Is it worth it keeping Ada around after you finish the automatron quest chain or does she just become just another robot with the usual run of the mill dialogue?

>>137221886
Yes, this. I really think Nick was deliberately written this way.
>>137222338
This is possible.

Consider that Nick's position could be interpreted as someone with a massively extended life trying to end it by altruistic sacrifice for the people around him (The latter part coming naturally as a function of his personality).

Eddie Winter, conversely, could be interpreted as someone who sacrificed those around him selfishly in order to achieve a massively extended life (The kicker being this also involved self-harm).

The SS enters the play, Nick's altruism gets reciprocated, and Eddie Winter gets killed, because he has no one to support him.

>>137222325
>Give your followers explosives and burst guns
>use all your AP on attacks and never run away
>don't put any points in luck or intelligence

>>137222991
>wanting to discard your new waifu
stop playing the same things i do pls

>>137217831
I see your white house, and I want to paint it black

>>137223326
Woah woah woah there, friend. I built me a waifu, crafted her lovingly with parts I scrounged for across the wasteland with the intent to make her perfect and just for me.

And I never said I'd discard her, Just wanted to know if she's got special commentary that made her more valuable as a regular at the main base or have her continue her original duties and run a caravan between my settlements.

>>137218532
I don't understand this.
IIRC, the narration at the time was about shortages, so the footage implies that this was a riot/looting of some kind.
But that looks like an industrial factory or power plant of some kind.

I bought automatron today, and finished the main quest.
so now im wondering where the fuck do i get all the rubber/adhesive/ceramics i need for omre robots.

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Don't suppose I could con anyone into making a mod that replaces the MM flag flying above the castle with the BoS flag?

>>137222325
Put all of your points int Luck.

>>137222991
I think her voice is different from all the others, but I guess there's just nostalgia options as reasons to keep her.

Kinda disappointing that she didn't really have anything to her outside of the mq for the dlc. I keep her around as my personalized deathbot because she's one of the companions whose commentary on me picking up junk isn't annoying as all fuck.

>>137222656
When he related saving the Mayor's daughter, the lie he told her captors involved his imminent self-destruction as well. It's this reoccurring theme with Nick.

>>137223619
I don't know if that's possible yet

>>137223705
Her voice is not unique.
Unfiltered ladyvoice, famalama.

>>137223590
Rubber is hard to scav, so check stores.

Ceramic is easy to scavenge, look for plates and mugs in places they would be.

Adhesive is pretty easy to get, set up a farm with the components to cook vegetable starch.

>>137223590
>adhesive
Vegetable starch. Link some settlements and have them farm the materials needed.
>ceramic
learn to pick up coffee cups and ashtrays that you've been ignoring forever
>rubber
actually kinda a pain in the dick.

>>137223543
>im not discarding her!
>im just shopping around for a new one..
your degeneracy knows no fucking bounds

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>>137223713
Or maybe Bethesda is shit at writing and Nick actually has the emotional depth of a paper plate?

>>137223619
>rubber
Go to ever settlement and scrap every tire.Then scavenge around those settlements and carry any tire you can back into the build zone and scrap it.

>>137222869
>only 4 replies
Not really

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Sigh, back to Sanctuary

>doing my first near-legit run in ages
>settlement building actually takes a good long time
>14 hours in and finally had enough to make adhesives from farming
>have little need for adhesives now due to buying and looting all the tape and glue in the world
huh...

will dust ever not be loaded with artificial difficulty?

>>137224008
You misunderstand. It's both topical and nostalgic, and by "nostalgic" I mean "Evidence /fog/ never had a golden age".

>>137222752
>le eye scar
>makeup

changing default is a war crime

>>137223963
what

>>137223841
>implying I didn't go into the DLC with the full intent to build a waifu from scratch to begin with.

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>>137224350
calm your autism

>>137223867
Heaven forbid someone glean value from somewhere you cannot.

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>have to download like half a GB worth of textures just to get Worsin's Garage to work with Tesla armor
>have shitposter net
goddamn it

>>137224381
You can pick up world objects and carry them back to your settlement.

Eyo, anyone up for some mod theorycrafting?
I'm pretty happy that the equipment and guns can be very easily brought up to what NV had.

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Eat it, Piperfags

>>137224607
what does that have to do with the MM flag being turned into a brotherhood flag

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Why did Bethesda feel the need to remove all dialog checks except for Charisma? It's so shit making an intelligent character, and then having no Intelligence dialog, you're still forced to act dumb and shoot everything. No diplomatic solutions to quests.

>>137224350
Not him but she looks pretty nice with makeup on

>>137225169
>bethesda is retarded and jewy as fuck
What's new?

>>137225138
Oops. Meant to reply to the post right above yours.
>>137223590

>>137220291
What mod?

all my armor is too tight on naked bodies and certain armors that treat the body as naked with cbbe. how can i fix this?

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I didn't ask for this.

>>137225169
tbqh lads whats the point of Intelligence in this game?

Genuine question

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>>137225169
Bethesda casualized the shit out of Fo4.

It's an FPS with roleplaying elements.

>>137225759
Access to perks, slightly boosted XP gain and more points means less red herring words in hacking.

>>137225759

Just access to perks really.

>>137225169
It's a casualty of the voiced PCs. Voice acting is expensive and for all the shit we give bethesda over their dialogue options in the game, their are still an absolute fuckton of recorded lines.

Though I will say that everything to do with the Silver Shroud is pretty goddamn fantastic. Also that there are many lines in the game that are enjoyablely delivered. The sarcastic ones in particular tend to fairly neat.

>>137225169

wow, i made that pic way back when they did the e3 presentation

I want to fuck cait

>>137226140
she doesn't want to fuck you

>>137225968
are u srs? they literally waisted all their VA budget on having codsworth able to verbally say like 100 different names...most of which appeal to a fucking 10 year olds sense of humour

>>137225968
Every word that comes out of the SS's mouth is a fraction of the VA budget that could have been spent on unique NPCs or alternate quest dialogue.

It's interesting but they shouldn't have done it. It's too limiting for Fallout.

Don't even get me started on the non-option dialogue wheel.

>>137226190
She'd eat my shit if I took her chems and let her withdrawal long enough

>>137225759
Perks perks and more perks. 8 int min for power armor characters. most other stats are fairly useless as well

STR for example, each point of STR = 1 more melee damage. That big honkin power hammer you got that swings for 300 damage? having a beer will make it 301 damage!

PER, even for sniper characters is pretty worthless unless you spend all your time in VATS. fuck, PER is mostly for demo expert.

CHA people praise and live every character with high CHA or people ignore it just enough for lone wanderererer

>>137226201
There's like 2000 names on the Codsworth list.

14.5k lines for the protagonist, times two for gender.

>>137225968
>>137226207
Voice acting is expensive, sure, and it definitely limits the amount of dialogue options you can have in the game. But having a voiced PC doesn't mean there couldn't have been different kind of speech checks or skill checks in dialogue. We have proof that most of the time 3/4 dialogue options are barely different versions of the same thing. All they would've had to do was replace some of those bullshit lines with some actual speech/skill checks.

>>137226140
you are not alone

Is there a stat or something that makes lockpicking easier similar to how int makes hacking easier?

>>137226419
No. Enjoy wasting perk points.

>>137226419
only lockpicking magazines or lockpicking affix legendary armor

>>137226654
>>137226679
righto thx lads

>>137226207
I'm not saying that I love the voiced pc, or that it was absolutely the right way to go. I'm just explaining how I think bethesda thought through the whole thing, based on what they gave us in the game.

>>137226419
>having trouble with lockpicking
Are you playing with fucking oven mitts on? Or whilst incredibly drunk? Maybe with a shitty controller?

All three maybe?

Cus the minigame is piss easy and you should have a billion fucking lockpicks if you bother looting places at all.

>>137226407
>All they would've had to do was replace some of those bullshit lines with some actual speech/skill checks.
They've been moving away from restricting players since Oblivion. Most people (read: the ones who subsidize our fun little Bethesda modding sandboxes) don't play a second character, or even necessarily finish the game on a first one. They jump in, do some epic stuff like in the trailers, maybe follow some questlines and then quit at level 30 when something else shiny distracts them. They'll come back for DLC and continue with that level 30ish save, and drop it again when they get their moneys worth out of the DLC.

Locking content behind requirements (see Morrowind's guild membership restrictions) doesn't make sense when most of your players will never see more than one of them. That's why I was surprised the faction choices in Fallout 4 were actual choices, not just "Yo BoS are good guys Institute bad, go kill them in power armor."

Sadly, this is the state of the videogames industry in 2016. Anyone who thinks the people at Bethesda enjoy making watered down shooters is a fucking moron, those people are just doing their jobs and cursing silently at the Zenimax people who hold the purse strings.

The Silver Shroud stuff was great and the game would be lesser without it

Voiced protag in general was a mistake, though
Blew a lot of budget on that

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>>137215208
Putting "/tesg" in the OP just makes this thread appear on my /tesg search bookmark on the catalog.

You are only making the problem worse.

>>137226864
If he's not playing with V-sync on, I know the lockpicking minigame can break your lockpicks excessively fast. Or he needs to git mediocre

>>137226407
Yeah but for each you'd have to have a fail and success response from the NPC so they've had to limit the checks because the two voices PCs ate 75% of the VA budget that would otherwise be spent on NPC response.

Having a variety of different checks also means more voice work needed for the PCs themselves, if the player is going to have the option of using a variety of SPECIAL attributes to pass checks, you need VA for each one as opposed to just Charisma.

Bethesda sacrificed a lot on the altar of voiced protagonists.

>>137226892
>Voiced protag in general was a mistake, though
>Blew a lot of budget on that
It also probably netted them a lot of sales from casuals, and at the end of the day money wins every argument.

>>137226190
>Literally lets you tie her down to a chair

Like she has a choice in the matter.

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>>137226985
>end of the day money wins every argument.

CURSE YOU CAPITALISM!!

>>137226892
Eh, I'd say it's an interesting experience at least. It's good for telling the story of a prewar person being dropped into the wasteland, even if bethesda kinda fumbled on the writing, albeit a bit less that usual. Now Bethesda absolutely shouldn't make a voiced PC again, but I've been done being upset over the voiced protagonist and dialogue options for almost half a year now.

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>>137226965

That and I think they really wanted to make Charisma relevant. And from playing my high Cha character, it really doesn't feel like they did a good job. Yeah getting local leader is good, but the speech checks themselves suck, most of the time it's just.

Hey about 100 caps
Can I get 100 more?
Come on another 100.

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>>137226891
>Anyone who thinks the people at Bethesda enjoy making watered down shooters is a fucking moron, those people are just doing their jobs and cursing silently at the Zenimax people who hold the purse strings.

>Just spent 4 hours crafting the perfect butt in Bodyslide

g...geck this month rite guize?

lewd mods soon?

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>>137226190
she did anyway

>>137226864
Never said I'm having trouble with it. Just asking whether there's a mechanic similar to int for hacking. Hacking isn't particularly difficult either, but knowing int helps it is useful.

>>137227362
Bethesda Softworks =/= Bethesda Game Studios
Pete is PR for BethSoft, which is a publisher and the step between the studio and Zenimax. It's his job to spin the shitty decisions that the money men hand down as a good thing.

>>137227421
share your preset file pls

Obsidian @Obsidian Apr 1

Very pleased to announce we will be giving a special announcement at this year's E3 Bethesda conference!

HOLY SHIT!

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>>137227421
let's see it

>>137227543
>Apr 1

If it's still a thing a week from now, sure

But today isn't a day to listen to news

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>>137227543
fallout 5 when?

>>137227543
Best thing Obisidian has ever done. I wonder how many Obsidikids will take it at face value?

The bitch tears will be delicious.

>>137227514
oh, that's fair enough

still though, I don't exactly think Emil's writing a god awful story in every game because the jews at Zenimax are telling him to

>>137227543
That's cruel.

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>>137227543
>1st April
>april 1st

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>>137227543

Sure thing anon, whatever you say.

>>137227231
>downloaded an x2 exp mod
>downloaded faster companion affection mod
>get pipers perk Gift of Gab
>speech checks exp rewards are worth it
On the other hand..
>high cha for companions, local leader, party boy and all around great prices
>1 cha = 5% discount
>10 cha = 50% off everything
>pop in grape mentats
>10% base + 25% from 5 cha
>85% discount on everything
But I think the cap is 80% discount on items.. cant remember. but high CHA builds are great

>>137227629
ironic post of the year

>>137227696
just play the damn vanilla game you cheater

>>137227632
Emil is a shitty writer, but I bet even he's hamstrung by it.

Hell, he might be a genius for all we know and his ideas just get shafted by the constraints.

But I doubt that very much.

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>>137227543
I actually looked

you fucking bastard

>>137227739
I did a few times already months ago.

it sucked dick using other comps besides Cait and Nick and just waiting their perks

>>137227362
Bethesda people certainly enjoy their jobs, apparently enough for most of them to have worked there for 8+ years.

>>137227868
Their talent hasn't improved one bit. Sad!

>>137227868
>enjoy their jobs
they enjoy their $$$ kiddo

>>137227868
yeah right, like I'm gonna take the word of someone who actively talks to them over the random /v/ shitposters who are throw out speculation because they're bitter

>>137227948
Man, this football team sure is playing shitty this year. It's because they're not getting better and not because the owner says they have to play without pads!

>>137227993
>thinking massive game sales = massive pay for studio employees
They're on a salary you fucking moron. They might get a bonus if they hit one or more KPIs but that's the same of almost every salaried position.

when do the raiders start raiding?

>>137228158
>Man, this football team sure is playing shitty this year. It's because they're not getting better and not because the owner says they have to play without pads!

I don't know how you consider this a good argument.

They're well paid and use the same engine for every fucking game yet the quality doesn't improve. They improve on their strengths and forget their weaknesses

>>137228216

When you building settlements, they can kidnap and kill people.

>>137228251
>They're well paid and use the same engine for every fucking game yet the quality doesn't improve.

Right, and the guy who pays them to make games saying "We want you to give the main character a voice. Focus testing says people like it when they have a voice." isn't interference from on high.

>>137227993
Well, considering most of them would have qualifications that would allow them to work pretty much anywhere, it's probably going to be more than money.
Everyone I talked to was damned enthusiastic about working there, everyone works there for a damn long time, I think I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and say that, yeah, they actually like their jobs.

>>137227948
And that's just not true, compare level designs between Oblivion, to Skyrim, even onto Fallout 4. Graphics have obviously gotten, but more accurately, things don't look as hideous, they're better at lighting and all the stuff that follows for that. Engine optimization has gotten better, as obviously, has combat. And basic tools too, each iteration of the creation kit is noticeably better.

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>>137228381
>actually trying to argue and use logic against hostile nitpicking idiots

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>come across some shed with like 4 super mutants
>kill them all
>go inside expecting some loot
>all I find is some dead woman in a spread eagle pose

Jesus Bethesda.

>>137228381
>And that's just not true, compare level designs between Oblivion, to Skyrim, even onto Fallout 4.

You mean Good to Objectively Terrible to Good again? The verticality of Fallout 4 is good, but the elevators are all glitchy messes

>Graphics have obviously gotten

Really? Fallout 4's textures are a fucking disgrace that don't load half the time.

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>>137226419
>>137226679
speaking of lockpicking...

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>>137227543

>>137228658
>Oblivion
>good
>literally copy and pasted the same rooms over and over

do the mods work for the beta patch yet?

>>137228658
>Fallout 4's textures are a fucking disgrace that don't load half the time.
They load a damn sight faster and more reliably than the 63% of last generation's games that were on Unreal Engine 3.

>>137228569
because it is always rape anon

>>137228708
Still more expansive than Skyrim's corridors.

>>137228768
I don't give a shit, they load slower than Fallout NV with Poco Bueno and NMCs installed

>>137228819

In this case it clearly was. There was literally nothing there but that.

>>137228843
>I don't give a shit, they load slower than Fallout NV with Poco Bueno and NMCs installed
It's Fallout 4 struggling to load more than 350 polygons at once.

>>137227462
SHINY AND CHROME

>>137228658
God no, Oblivion's dungeons are the worst. Still a massive use of warehousing, not to mention it has all the problems people rag about Skyrim having (linear, easy-exits-out), only with no creative ideas, and not even good loot like Morrowind to save them. Really not much to save them there.
It sounds to me like you haven't played Oblivion in a while, cause the dungeons there basically will suffer from everything you're going to whine about Skyrim having.

Also... you do realize that texture popins and texture fidelity are not the same thing right? Like I said, that's a side effect of them getting optimization. Skyrim doesn't even use them, just switches over to distant land.

>>137228967

I really like Oblivion's dungeons tbqh

>>137227462
mod?

>>137228967
>It sounds to me like you haven't played Oblivion in a while, cause the dungeons there basically will suffer from everything you're going to whine about Skyrim having.

That is true, I haven't played the game in a long time, I just remember them being interesting in comparison to Skyrim

So that's even worse, it went

Morrowind (Great) > Oblivion (shit) > Skyrim (shit) > Fallout 4 (okay)

>Also... you do realize that texture popins and texture fidelity are not the same thing right?

Yeah, didn't say that pal. I said they were a disgrace that don't even load half the time. So you wait a good 20 seconds for a wall to load only for it to be 512mb blurry piece of shit. The rain and water effects look disgraceful, and the godrays fuck with character models.

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>>137227543

>>137229181
I cant wait for ES6 to come out so you can look back and think FO4 was shit.

>>137229264
But anon, Fallout 4 IS shit

>>137229181
>So you wait a good 20 seconds for a wall to load only for it to be 512mb blurry piece of shit.
Maybe YOU wait 20 seconds for a blurry piece of shit. Still, I guess I can't make toast with my PC so you've got one up on me there.

>>137229264
And Oblivion will be GOAT, don't forget.

>>137229301
I have a high end PC , run it on Ultra 2k at 60fps. looks like shit senpai

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>>137229040
The best thing in Oblivion's dungeons were ayelid traps. That's... about it.

>>137229181
Morrowind's dungeons, disregarding loot, were actually the worst in the series. Almost all of them were small, and didn't just have copy-pasted rooms but outright copy pasted entire dungeon layouts.
When a huge amount of daedric shrines looked like this, yeah.
Ancestral tombs often followed specific templates, to the point where you could predict what was in what room based on the layout.
What made exploring in Morrowind good was the loot, not the dungeon design.
It's only with Skyrim did they start expanding the level design team and start using things like kitbashing, and a lack of warehousing.

>>137229413
>Morrowind's dungeons, disregarding loot, were actually the worst in the series. Almost all of them were small, and didn't just have copy-pasted rooms but outright copy pasted entire dungeon layouts.

Lost me there, trainfag. i was with you up until you said that shit. Level design was great and often had hidden shit you could find by levitating

>>137229402
I bet you run it off a 5400rpm hard drive too, you fucking luddite. Get an SSD and join the 21st century.

inb4 I HAVE ONE YOU'RE SHIT, nobody believes your lies.

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How do I get rid of it /fog/? I've tried a few retextures but it's always there.

It hurts my autism.

>>137229485
>Go into a dungeon
>It's the same visually as every other dungeon
>I can fly somewhere to get a steel wakizashi maybe
Morrowind is GOAT, but the level design for most dungeons is bland as all hell

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>>137229485
Which is... loot. Exactly what I was talking about being good. We remember Morrowind for glass claymores hidden behind mummies. Not because the layout and gameplay of the dungeons was so engaging.

I mean fuck man, this was the average cave.

>>137229485
>the dude you quoted said level design was shit
>but the loot was good
>you barge in and disagree with him and your only counterpoint was the loot
the fuck

>>137229485
>says the loot was better
>IT WAS SO MUCH BETTER BECAUSE THE LOOT WAS BETTER

You're a moron. He's saying the loot was good. But loot isn't all the level design, and in every other aspect its shit. Just because some dev placed a hidden treasure behind a rock doesn't mean everything around the rock wasn't shit.

>>137229691
/v/ School of Video Game Design and Development strikes again.

new thread?

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>>137229943
what

>>137229943
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>>137230035
>>137230054
this ones fucked

>>137229678
I'd rather have 10 of that copy/pasted around the world than one 10 times that size but totally linear and always with a magical loopback that drops me 5 feet from the entrance after I loot the 'big chest'

>>137230141
>always with a magical loopback that drops me 5 feet from the entrance
It's ok when From Software does it.

>>137230105

The next one won't be better.

>>137228569
but she aint nekkid

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>>137229091
oh, I don't know

I'll go see if it was released publicly

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>>137230141
Which is exactly what Oblivion did.
Not to mention the only reason Morrowind's dungeons weren't linear simply because they were too SMALL to be.
And small isn't bad by any means, the problem is there were never interesting. Consider Fallout 4, which has many small-sized dungeons that don't create dungeon fatigue while still being entertaining and having something unique happening in them.

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>>137229091
>>137230248
found it
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2249/?
and
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11399/?

>>137230474
why does piper have crossbow bolts on her wrist

>>137230543
To pin down her newspaper articles.

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>>137230543
those are pens

she is a reporter and writes stories

>>137230543
Those are pens, m8.

>>137230383
The two dungeons in the automaton dlc were pretty fantastic. Also that one quarry with the unique machete mod at the bottom and all the fucking ghouls and general lovecraftian bullshit.

>>137230645
yeah, the dungeon design has been great.
That one parking lot with all the traps was a blast.

>>137230635
cheeky
>>137230637
>>137230640
>writes stories
no actually im pretty sure she types them out on her terminal and has them printed out on the press machine

>>137230868
And she lugs that terminal around with her all the time, right?

For fuck sake you cocknigger.

>>137230868
you don't know how reporting works do you

>>137228497
>Trying to argue against the frothing anti-beth horde you helped foster

GLHF

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>>137230868
yeah but she writes stuff down on a notepad when she's in the field doing interviews and stuff

then she uses her handwritten notes to make a news article in the newspaper

>>137230383
The idea of "Dungeon fatigue" pisses me off. The thought that the player always has to be comfortably close to a town is terrible watering down and homogenizes the 'open world' experience.

>>137231125
Being in a dungeon too long just depresses me. It's the same old shit over and over again.

>>137231125

>tfw megadungeon is kill

>>137231125
Nah, the idea of dungeon fatigue is "Fuck this dungeon has been going on forever", not that they're sick of dungeons. It's the idea that the player is bored with their current experience, which is bad.

>>137231248
so that feeling you got when you first played through tranquility lane

>>137231349
Meh, tranquility lane was short enough and engaging enough for not to set in.

>>137231349
You mean the feeling that I got when I just looked up how to activate the Chinese invasion reset thing?
In my defense, I was just looking for any alternate solutions to those tasks, because I wanted to RP.

>>137230814
Traps in general are pretty much better as well.
>>137231231
Megadungeons have two roles. The first is to act as the background for a a finale quest in which the PC is ideally too distracted by the plot going ons to get too bogged down by the dungeon, which the mechanist's lair succeeded at imo and the finale of the thieves guild in TESV failed at. The second is more suitable for the action genre and is more of a test of skill for the player. Like the super floor dungeons in LoZ.

>>137223619
Why don't you just build a wooden structure on top of the MM flag and put a BoS flag on it?

>>137231562
>and is more of a test of skill for the player.

Megadungeons should be be just that. Megadungeons. The biggest toughest dungeon that holds the hardest challenges and the best rewards. It should also be the lowest quantity dungeon type, and ideally something major, a landmark or something of story significance.

>>137231727

One thing I love about Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen is almost immediately upon starting a new game, you can go to Bitterblack Isle and play an entire game's worth of dungeoning there

>>137231857
Bitterblack is part of the expansion though, it's not like it was there from day 1.

The Pipboy really fucks with fashion for some armors.

>>137217729
you don't see every modern infantry soldier with a lmg

>>137231727
Ideally the megadungeon should be visible from most of the map. Or at the very least most of the part of the map that your endgame players are going to be frequenting. Also art assets are especially important in them.As the dungeon is going to need it's own look to make it very clear that this is the place that is going to test you to make sure you know your shit.

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>>137228702
What's even worse in that in Fallout canon, advanced facilities are supposed to operate doors by using keycards, not primitive locks. Obsidian did this right with New Vegas, but of course Bethesda never did, they've never played Fallout 1 or 2.

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>>137232053
Yes it does.