/pdg/ Payday the Heist, Payday 2 and Bonnie General

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First for incoming Russian dozer

is it just me or no one uses the theia scope on sniper rifles?

>>137095429
Apart from Bomb:forest and maybe Lab rats if anyone plays it, nobody needs it and it's not like your average shitter cared enough to do the achievement related.

Iron sight strong in the safehouse

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk_65CEAbms

>14 people,
>not a single shaped charges guy,

GeneralMcfattas confirmed for attracting the worst kind of shitters

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Is Jimmies first mask (from the trailer) in the card drops? I've played all this time and did some offshore casino and all i got was one second mask.

>>137096560
Must be bugged for the moment like with Jiro's mask where we had to wait for a month for the devs to fix it.

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7th for Clover being the sexiest heister of the crew

>>137099021
Maybe if you remove all of her distinguishing features and put her in a generic anime artstyle.
Otherwise she's the second most unnattractive

What heist is Bain's worst plan?
my vote is for Framing Frame.
>Steal paintings to sell to him secretly
>to get camera access
>even though there are cameras all over the house already being broadcast to some cameraroom off-site, so we should be able to hack the feed.
>And then you have to give him a bunch of bags of coke to frame him for being cokehead
>When he already has that stolen art hanging around his house
>also I did no research, but he has gold from a guns/drugs/gold deal with terrorists or something
>if shit goes loud, hack his computer to leak that info about that drug/guns/gold deal
>which will "frame him" for something he actually did
>also if you do it silently, there's no indication how or why that coke you gave him would become public knowledge.
>all of this is because the elephant is paying us to make sure the vic doesn't win an election.
We could just shoot him. We have guns and generally don't give a shit about using them on people.

>>137100651
The Payday gang aren't exactly hitmen, they're just in it for the money.

The Elephant also needs that guy to be 'framed' because a murder would look too suspicious, which means that some blame might be pointed to his side.

What I don't understand is how putting Coke in his secret compartment is gonna frame him. It's well hidden, and I'm pretty sure that the people working for him know that he's a crook.

>>137101269
Also why don't we just hack him to begin with in stealth. Or sell him the paintings, then when we know they're up, call the cops and have them see the stolen art in his place. Or hide a dead hooker in his vault, that'll cost way, way less than 4-8 bags of coke.

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>>137100651
>implying Car Shop wasn't a set up considering how the place was crowded and Bain pretended it would be cool

>>137101669
no, that's actually not crowded.
When it's crowded, it's like an Alesso concert.

>>137101810
>Alesso concert
>'shit guys, we've gone loud'
>'better time the c4 with the concert so nobody hears it go off'
The only way I'll accept this is if Bain is a HUGE Alesso fan and wanted to hear the rest of the concert.

>>137102094
Who ISN'T a huge alesso fan? Biggest musician in the world, man.
In one generation, The Beatles. later, Nirvana. Now, Alesso.

>>137102094
This is also where the police and FBI know that four extremely violent gunmen have infiltrated a concert full of civilians, and they don't bother to evacuate the building.

That whole heist was silly honestly. It can be summed up with;

>GenSec wanted to wave their dick around, so Bain decided to wave his to prove its bigger

Or something

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>reusing the AK assets instead of giving new models to the russians units.

You had one job Ovk.

>>137103467
Does anyone really care what gun the units use? I feel like you're just looking for something to complain about now, I'm just glad they're not using CAR-4s

>>137103776
>>137103467
So who else is ready for the Ruskie sniper and his hi-tech AK?

>>137104234
SVD isn't an AK.

>>137104348
>>137104234
where can i find a sniper rifle

>>137105090
The armory on floor B2 in the Tank Hangar.

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cyka

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>>137104234
>highly modified Krinkov

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>mfw have to beg a I-46 shitter to not take an armor bag on DW.

Couldn't be happier that this sale is soon over.

>>137105242
Why don't we have a real SVD instead of a cheap AS Val modded ;-;

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I HAVE 1,86 LEFT

I HAVE THE GAGE MOD PACK ONLY

WHAT ELSE DO I GET?

>>137109273

Sokol Character's pack. Perk deck is absolute trash tier but the rifle is so worth it.

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>>137107994
>cheap AS Val modded

39,9 DAMAGE
9
,
9

>>137099021

>not sokol

>>137102574
>GenSec wanted to wave their dick around, so Bain decided to wave his to prove its bigger

That's basically the overarching plot of Payday 2.

>>137109821

>grinder is bad meme

Still?

>>137110960
}not useing rouge with 15 faqs
its leik u want to get downd: DDDD go back 2 ledit scrub

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lets get some icy hot opinions in this thing

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>>137111595
Opinion time.
Haven't used MS Paint in ages

>>137111275

>being this bad at trolling

>>137112365
Well shit, you got me.
armor>everything>your mum>you

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>>137111595
>bonnie, jiro and jacket above houston

>>137100651
Framing Frame day 3 alone is hands down the worst bit of writing in the game. It should be
>Gather devices
>Find server room.
>Hack.
>Activate office computer to open the vault
>Steal gold
>Leave

yeh

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>>137111595
>Tier one

heist release when

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>>137115345
Around 8 hours left

>>137116543
i actually keked at the ammo bag.

why are pubs so bad at shooting snipers

Can I use Macaroni in shotgun centered Enforcer/Mastermind build.

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>>137118276
Because AR have no fucking accuracy anymore and pubbies just love the funnel of fun compensator

>>137118779
N°1 rule about shotguns: if it's not the M1014, the Predators 12G or the Street Sweeper, you can bring it for any DW heists and have fun with it.

>not using the moscovici in a shotgun centered Enforcer/Fugitive build,

Just step it up

>>137118909
But I need inspiration so can save all those shitters in pubs.

>>137052618
Fun fact: The Hardcore Henry director made the trailer himself.

Isn't his name in the trailer somewhere? It was pretty obvious. It's not OVK's rendition of the character.

>>137119060
>implying killing all the enemies instead doesn't save those shitters

Why does Sokol like the smell of corpses so much

>>137118909
>M1014 is bad
HE M1014 was good enough for loud DWs. It was one of the better primaries before the Joceline and buffed Macaroni came out.

>>137120405
I liked the trailer, it was kind of cheesy.
I liked Jimmy's character on it, but I can see why some people might find him annoying.

>>137120405
>>137122250
I think the over all trailer sucked, but the end was good. The part where they are walking in slow mo, music going off, guns blazing, Jimmy pouring coke into and all over his mask. That was great.

Is there any fun and viable melee build out there?

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>>137122595
Techforcer ICTV + Berserker basic + Pumping Iron aced + Katana + Armorer perk deck

It's "balanced".

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>>137123092

>>137122595
Techforcer/Masterforcer with Katana, Berserker, Armorer/Yakuza, Pumping Iron aced, Martial Arts aced, Iron Man aced is really fun on Deathwish. Katana one shots gensec elites, two shots tans, charging up will kill specials outside of Dozers, Iron Man aced allows you to knock over shields.

This is my melee Deathwish Masterforcer build with Armorer and sometimes Yakuza. I usually use the secondary nade launder and an assault rifle.

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSnLhJeFGcDa:eRoMIEFGDa:tda:ghIECda:feCa:ibcdea:::

Keep in mind I like that stuff and play it that way. The only really necessary skills are Berserker basic and Pumping Iron basic mixed with the Katana to make a really strong melee build. Other melee weapons work too, but the Katana is probably the most effective.

>>137123092
>>137123426
>Armorer instead of Infiltrator

If you're already going Techforcer ICTV, the Damage Resistance bonuses add up a lot more than a little bit of extra Armor does. Plus it gives you some of that sweet health sustain nectar and even more melee damage.

>>137123092
>>137123426
>>137123567

Do I need any of the DLC?

Also, is this build as close as I can get to make payday play like hotline?

>>137123831
You'd need Dragan DLC for the Infiltrator Perk Deck, and the Jiro DLC for the Yakuza Perk Deck and Katana, which really is the best melee in the game.

It's debatable, the ICTV makes you move pretty slow and eat up all the bullets. If you're okay with mods there is a Sociopath Rework that makes the perk deck turn you into a super fast glass cannon which is a much more accurate rendition of Hotline Miami's gameplay.

>>137124001
Any other DLC that is good to have?

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10 NEW ACHIEVEMENTS GUYS, HYPE

>When to leave requires training coming in like a wrecking ball

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>>137123402

>>137124392
Basically all the Character DLC. Even if you don't like the characters involved pretty much, most of the Perk Decks add a lot to the table. Clover's Burglar Deck is very useful for Stealth and Sokol's Grinder Deck is, even after all this time, considered the strongest in the game by many. Jacket's Sociopath is probably the one exception unless you download one of those reworks.

As far as Weapons go, Gage Mod Courier provides a lot of Weapon Mods even if you have to work for them, and BBQ Pack has the Molotov Cocktail and the pretty fun Flamethrower, and Gage Shotgun Pack has HE Rounds for shotguns, which makes stuff like the Judge Shotgun kill shields or remove Bulldozer Visors quickly

You can ignore most Heist DLC to start with, just join Friend of Pub lobbies.
Golden Grin Casino has the Buzzer though, which is regarded as the OTHER best Melee in the game, because it tazes anything besides a Bulldozer.

>>137125109
>Jacket's Sociopath is probably the one exception

It's "okay", it just needs a lot of compromises to be good, even more than you would do for an Armorer or Infiltrator perk deck. Still, your defense suck on DW, you really need to constantly chop ennemies to be in a tough spot.

>>137111595
>god tier
Chains
Jacket with animal masks/Biker
>Great tier
Dallas
Houston
Sokol
>good tier
Dragan
Bonnie
Wolf
Jimmy
Clover
Jiro
>bad tier
Hoxton
Wick
Jacket with any other mask
>shit tier
Bodhi

>>137124541
Do you live in the past?

Daily reminder to watch the Stream from the devs for extra shitter behavior and failed overkill heists

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>mfw the new weapon end up even more OP than the baby deagle

>>137123567
The point is that it's a melee build. You go Berserker to get extra melee damage to one shot gensec elites and two shot tans on Deathwish with the Katana. Infiltrator gives you health upon melee strikes, which sort of defeats the purpose.

>>137123831
For the Katana and Yakuza deck you need the Jiro DLC. If you use the Yakuza deck with the build I linked, yeah it's kinda like Hotline. You actually move pretty fast with the Yakuza deck plus Run and Gun with the ICTV. Not as fast as the suit, but it's more viable I'd say on Deathwish than other melee builds that use the suit. There's fragile and then there's really fragile.

There are a lot more ways to make a good melee build on Overkill and below though.

>Playing Payday
>Roomate decides to watch me play for a bit
>I'm busy shooting 1 billion cops in a mall
>"So is this just a domestic terrorism simulator?"
>"What?"
>"No"
>"Its..."
>"uhhh"
Hmm

>>137128887
That's honestly not a good way to do a Melee build though. Bezerker's Damage boost is redundant in most cases where Infiltrator's own works just fine. Having to charge for a second more is far less of a drawback than Zerker's lack of health regen, lack of significant damage resistance. Gimping your health intentionally on Death Wish means you'll be competing with Killerbee for Most Downed.

>tfw TechForcer ICTV Hitman works on Deathwish

>>137130285
It is a good way to make a melee build. Berserker's damage is definitely not redundant for melee. Killing stuff as quickly as possible is important with a melee build, because the cops tend to notice you as you're smacking away at their buddies. One shotting them with the Katana makes them react slower.

Infiltrator's damage bonus comes from consecutive hits which takes too much time to actually matter. 230 ish armor is more than enough on Deahthwish, unless you're new to it. After all, there was a time before First Aid Kits, before Muscle giving out large amounts of health regen, and before Infiltrator existing. I've run that build many times with good results. If you run the Techforcer variant, you have even more armor. You should try it out sometime, especially on the Diamond. Lots of close range fights and lots of cover. Doorway fights are the best with the build as you can just smack your melee key and rack up the kills.

>>137131626
It is a good feel. Masterforcer Hitman works well too. You can even pick up Hostage Taker if you want some regen.

>>137131626
since when does Hitman work in general? I thought its the worst perkdeck

>>137101269
>>137101470
>>137112860
>>137100651
The reason you don't hack the computer to release the video of the arms deal is that the question will later be asked "well, what happened to the gold?" This way you can get out with the gold without the feds even knowing it exists. Although if the feds crack his computer(which they would try to) they may be able to find the video themselves. Assuming they don't get the video the only people that know about the gold are the gang and the senator.

>http://www.10chambers.com/member2.html
No Mercy confirmed.

>>137132318
I think they buffed it so that it doesn't have armor penalty anymore.

You could also regen armor while under fire too or so I've heard.

>>137094889
>there will never be a fem cloaker with bdsm attire
>you will never rape fem cloaker

>>137099021
shit art tbhqh

>>137109273
>>137107807
>furry gondola poster retard is gone forever
>we get this cancerous cunt instead
bravo overkill
r
a
v
o

>>137111595
Remove Sokol from god and place on top.

Change "mid tier" to "annoying in an enjoyable way" tier, place SOkol on this tier along with the others.

>>137125467
>jacket on anything but worse than bodhi tier
fuck off transgender bifluid zoophilic fag

they had the chance to make him great, make a mixtape of lines from all over the place. airpor lady saying something, radio man something else, kid from tv show saying a thing, etc etc

yet they turned him on a cunt with an anjnoying cun'ts voice

whos kenny

>>137132318
No armor loss, no problems anymore.

>>137135846
its a name we use instead of saying "cancer" so it sounds pretty, its like saying cunny instead of cunt

>>137123092
Every game in history has a meta that can be exploited to minmax the shit out of a build and the strongest you can possibly be. The only way to make it so that retards who don't have a clue can be slightly useful is while at the same time having retards who know what they're doing be overpowered.

You can simply not use that build and forget about it and play without skills.

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>>137135765

>>137135846
Some heister, we never wish to see again ever

>>137134619
who? what? where?

>>137139296
>Payday game and made a substantial part of the Payday 2 environments, then went on to collaborate with Valve Software on two DLC's for Payday 2
>collaborate with Valve Software on two DLC's for Payday 2
Unless he means blackmarket update, iirc it was labeled as "free dlc" at steamdb?

IT'S HAPPENING GUYS

>>137140356
cyka blyat

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>he thinks Jacket isn't the best heister

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>>137140671

>>137140680
Dragan is easily the best. Plus, he's the only real heister out of the whole bunch.

>>137140909
this

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>>137140680
>not houston

Don't act dumb

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>>137140680
>>137140909
>>137141394
everyone is good, but sokol a best

>>137136341
>cunny
People don't mean 'cunt' when saying 'cunny'. Not on 4chan, at least.

>3 Gigs to download the update,

Get a grip Overkill

yfw both heists are shit

>>137142854
They would REALLY have to try to make heists shittier than Alesso or Transports

>>137142854
inb4 both heists are rehash

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>>137142854
>mfw the stealth heist is rushable in less of 4 minutes

>>137094889
>russian cloakers
>not screaming "Aa нy чики бpики и в дaмки!" after dropkicking you
0/10

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>Still no updates,

Ded game, ded Jimmy, ded Deagle

>>137145830
>>137145830
It has n't be n 24 hours sicne hte last announcement
It was posted at 3:47 ( my time) it's 3:14 now
(hopefully this post is understandalb.e)

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>>137140909
Dragan would be my favourite if he didn't lack 70% of the Pocohud lines.

he has: Let's Go, Hurry, Left/Right/Upstairs/Downstairs, This Way, Straight Ahead and Thanks.

If I can't scream FUCK ME SIDEWAYS or AH SHIT when I'm in trouble (which every other heister has), what's the point? I have to say - Jimmy's panic lines are Q U A L I T Y.

>>137146791
to expand on this the original 4 heisters have the most enabled voice commands. Chains gets my points for being most audible.

PUTSOMEROUNDSDOWNRAIN
COUPLEMOREMINUTES
SHIT, SHIT
PRESSON
WENEEDTOMOVETOAMORESTRATEGICPOSITION
WEGOTTABUGTHEFUCKOUT

>>137146791
That's because Slavs are stoic and face their fears with dignity.

>>137129202
It's not terrorism if the premeditated crime isn't political.

Stealing stuff shooting up malls for protection money, assassination Russian crimelords for favours, stealing illegal nukes from PMCs, winning cartel drug wars, cooking meth, framing politicians, etc. are all good ol' American crimes.

>>137147030
>WE ARE INVINCIBLE

>>137129202
Terrorism: Using fear to make people think the way you think.
You're all about the money and the thrills.

checked packages on dsteam db and it waslast updated 30 minutes ago so the heists should be out within an hour

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>>137147662
should be out within an hour

new technician tree reveal when?

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>>137104234
I'm hyped as long as it's a proper Dragunov and not the bullshit that is pic related.

>>137148170
tomorrow
they're being revealed one tree per week.

>>137129202
That's why you gotta disguise your bank robbery as a terrorist attack

>tfw gayday is top seller just after shit:go

>>137134619
Maybe he's just talking about Go Bank and Train Heist.

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>>137129202
>mfw people care more about killing stuff than stealing money or complete objectives,

Do you see the crew in Heat hunting cops or going on a slaughter ? We're heisters, not psychos ffs

>>137149027
You do know that it's April Fools' Day tomorrow, ye?
Imo, one of the stupidest and most useless days of the year, good thing that people have been giving less and less shit about it each passing year

Alright, I'm fairly new to the game, only level 73, no infamy.
What's the easiest way to get some levels, and what's a good build to actually get me levels fast?
Only deck I have unlocked is the rogue.

IT HERE
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/games/hardcorehenry-heists

IT'S ON GUYS, HAPPENING

cool casey heists are live bois

>Added the job "White Streak" Pistol
What did they mean with this?

>I can be a cloaker now

Magazine: 12
Total Ammo: 60
Rate of Fire: 667
Damage: 145

Accuracy: 68
Stability: 32
Concealment: 29
Threat: 9

Holy fuck baby deagle

>free taser
fuck,did i buy ggc for nothing?

>bad motherfucker for menu

Fuck the heists this is what I'm here for.

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Pistol is a Lebedev PL-14

>cloaker-san mask
AHAHA

>cloaker-san
>not cloaker-sama
I thought this was a russian pack, not an anime pack

Fuck Cloacker mask is behind stealth achivement

>>137150748
>What's the easiest way to get some levels,

If you're patient, Rats Overkill with 7 bags of meth

>http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSoLmhiJeGBDa:eDa:ghEgCa:fqrsnoKhjEGBCda:::

Try to keep your detection risk under 5 in order to get the maximum dodge and critical hit bonuses. Akimbo should improve your life greatly.

Technician tree rework when?

>>137151470
It's going to be shit.

Are the heists and the rest of the new shit already in the game?
My game refuses to update.

>>137151508
It literally can't be worse than what it is right now. It's impossible Overkill fucks up this badly, anything would be an improvement.

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>>137151268
They just know which audience to go for.

>>137142521
I do ;)

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>>137150572
>butthurt about April Fools'
Found the fool.

>Complete the Murky Station job by killing all guards
>forcing you to stealth with a team

Wait does the new meele actually stun the cops like buzzer

>>137153262
Guess the devs really want nobody to accuse this game of being P2W

>Bad Motherfucker as a menu track
Cool, I dig that song.
tfw I loved Biting Elbows before the DLC announcement and was waiting on the movie
It's the only reason I came back to the game.

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>new pistol is free baby deagle
>new meele is free buzzer

So with the free baby and buzzer melee is this the "its not pay to win keep them flying ;)" pack?

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>game updating at 357 kbps
anyone else downloading this slowly?

>Fixed an issue that caused the Black Bulldozers to deal higher damage than intended

They fucked up my game now
It was good hide and seek game

>All AR below 80 dmg get a flat +10 dmg, +4 accuracy and +20% ammo pool, AR above 80 only get +4 stabily and +20% ammo
>All pistols get -10 dmg, -30 dmg for deagles and revolvers
>Mosco and Jocelyne get their dmg divided by 2 because fuck you
Would that make AR good again?

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kek

>>137154471
ew

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>>137154471
>no IPSC compensator,

>>137154471
>white streak pistol
>no white streak

>>137155202
"Brown Streak" would be too obvious.

>>137150437
>implying you can take stuff without killing everyone in the assault wave

Did you watch Heat? If you have a shitter on your crew that makes it loud, then the pros kill EVERYONE.
Then you kill the shitter for fucking up everything.

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>>137039347
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- For The Pension Fund (earn_2000k_offshore_cash)
- Lord Of War (lord_of_war)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

>>137156202
oh pension fund.
AKA "have your free sidejob drop"

Damn I'd take these shitty drone cameras over actual camera spam any day.

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So what do you think of the new update?

http://strawpoll.me/7239481

>>137157120
It just came out you dumb mother fucker

>>137157281
This thread is going to be up for a while, retard

Plus this update is small as fuck

I remember now why I quit this game.
>failed to join session
>host has left
>you have been kicked

2 hours and not one game completed.
Neat.

Where is the thermal paste?

>>137157425
Kill yourself faggot

>>137157605
Say that to my fucking face cunt

>>137157427
>not hosting every game you play

>>137157427
Didn't you figure out that you can host your own game dummy?

>>137154471
what is that material supposed to be? a form of porous metal?

>Fixed an issue that caused the Black Bulldozers to deal higher damage than intended

finally holy fuck

>almost april 2016,
>still no fix for the skins that are bugged as shit,

Fuck you Overkill.

>>137159095

rip dw even more

>>137151341
What if I'm not that patient and just want to get a lot of XP with not much time invested?

>>137159195
>april of 2016
>snipers still use "the highly modified dmr m4 rifle ;)))))" instead of an actual sniper rifle even though we have sniper rilfes now

Fuck is it just me or do these Russians hit HARD?

>>137159539
now we need that picture of sokol getting fucked by swat but instead being fucked by spetnqz and saying "just like when Iw as a kid" or something

>>137157598
Engies have it in their boxes

>>137159539
Are we talking Bronco Cop hard or Murky hard?

I was just playing with a not so decent player(infamy something and hundred of hours) and he had the "better bots" mod.

I noticed Dallas had a taurus and clover a saiga, do they use the player skills on top of that or they somehow get stronger custom versions of those weapons?

I always called the bots to be with me as I rampaged around the map(dw on shit comptuer) and they never went down once and were actually damn helpful if you got tased or had a cloaker rubbing his dick against you

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>>137159774
>being fucked by spetnqz and saying "just like when Iw as a kid" or something

Whats the epic ruse for tomorrow

why is the damage output of these russians so fucking huge jesus christ

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>>137111595
>Houston only in mid tier

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>Bad Motherfucker added to the game
HOLY FUCK YES HOLY SH-
>Only for the menus
Oh well. Guess I'll replace the result screen I guess.

>>137111595
>>137161527
>Houston as high as mid tier
>not sub-bodhi

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How many dumpsters are there

>>137160029
Full ICTV Techforcer, a single shot from those AKs took down a third of my armor.

Russia don't fuck around.

>silence white streak
>it isn't actually silent

I understand video game logic is like that in general but jesus fuck the noise put me off hard

damn, new heist is pretty lit

also those electric brass knuckles suck

Compared to the buzzer I mean.
Initial swing speed is way slower

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>>137161982
feel the power of 7.62 cyka

>>137156202
Those were the sidejobs from yesterday, you retard.

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What are some must have weapons in this game? I just got the new pistola

Any ideas on what the new units are saying? I'm curious on whether they're unique lines, or just Russian versions of the Police lines.

Do the bodies in boiling point act like bags, so doing another gives more money? Or it just

A. 1 body and leave
or
B. All bodies and leave?

>>137161982
I wonder if we'll ever get a "heist" were we're just kind of merc-ing around and killing cartels people or something and they have their special units

The tazer throws chili picante at your face and keeps you "tazed" until you pass out, the dozer is a fat shit wearing mariachi armor, the cloakre is a luchador, and winters can be hector

>Complete the Murky Station job by killing all guards
How
You only get 4 pagers

>>137163604
if you can't figure it out you don't deserve the achievement

someone post the cloaker-san mask pls
my update's going slow as fuck and my weebdom needs satisfaction

>>137163876
Literally on the update page.

>>137163806
You shoot them then leave before the pagers go off?

so...drones are pretty much stationary right?

Boiling point is fun

I bet overkill is going to forget about the russian cops now and never use the models ever again.

>>137163979
haha I really enjoy being retarded

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>>137159520
Except, new russian snipers have a low-poly SVD

>>137164113
that emp blast was dank af

stealth heist is really shit

>>137166270
ur mum is shit

rekt ;)

>>137166270
what else is new

Shit that pubbies do:
>team in the escape zone
>some random faggot is on the other side of the map killing cops for fun
>gets downed like a retard
>some guy goes to rescue him
>entire mission goes to shit

>Shadow Raid
>snipes guys from a long distance so NPCs will spot the corpses
I haven't had a single successful Shadow Raid with pubbies

>>137165147
>sniper
>laser
god fucking dammit overkill

>>137165147
the gensec guys have ump that were never added eitehr and I think the black dozer ha a drum on his saiga

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>>137165147
>laser on barrel,

Overkill please

>Ghost Run
>Complete the Murky Station job within 7 minutes of starting it.

>Janitor
>Complete the Murky Station job after hiding one body bag in each dumpster.

These are not currently working?
Completed the heist in 6:53 and dumped five guys.

I got ghost run done in 5:21 and it worked.

>>137167740
>dumped five guys
That you, Zoe?

Anyone completed crazy ivan? Pretty hard to solo, fucking tazers always make me kill someone

>>137163994
There's this thing in the game that allows you to block pagers for a short amount of time. Dammit, what are they called.

>>137169198
armor bags you idiot

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>pistol will stop being primaries for masterforcers and become an useless secondary
>only dodge faggots will enjoy the glory of pistols
t-thanks overkill

>>137167174
Lasers on a sniper isn't realistic, but it looks cool and and is an acceptable gameplayechamic to let the players know that they're targeted with powerful weapons.

>>137168315
Ah, nevermind, just did it. Infiltrator+ICTV+saw is a way to go, if some autistic solofag like me is intrested.

Where the fuck is the thermite and keycard on this goddamn heist I want this fucking EMP

>>137169573
You could just see the glimpse of a trace after the bullet is fired or something like that, not some kind of high powered james bond laser.

Unless they at least blind the fuck out of you if they aim atyour face

I'm new to Payday and I just played my first stealth mission, are they popular among the community? Because I was bored out of my fucking mind

>>137171147
If you hate fun, then yes.

>>137170494
keycards are near the radios, look for hit songs such as "Donacdum"
thermite is the same place as blowtorches; near the welders

>>137171147
Depends on the mission.

>>137171147
Shadow Raid is the most popular one. Erection day a bit too although the Golden Grin Casino end up piss easy if you know what to do

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who is your favourite heister?mine is Bokston

>for the kill

This is nice

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Please tell me I didn't waste my time.

How many dupsters there is on the murky station anyway? Found only 3.

>>137172691
>84 accuracy,
It's decent although barely

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>>137172335
you ;)

>>137172691
>he doesn't optimize all his weapons even the ones he''ll never us

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So can't play the heists right now, are they good or Lab Rats tier ?

>>137174441
Boiling Point takes time to get used to mob-wise and the standard cops will shred you down, but otherwise the heist is big oil lite.

Murky Station is train 2.0, with laser beams to boot. It's pretty straight-forward when you figure out how it functions as Bain doesn't necessarily give you the full lowdown outright, opting to instead run you through it as you go. It really helps to find the billboard that tells you where all four of the different supplies can be found.

So any advice on technician? Specifically what I should grab or avoid? I was initially planning on being a tech but I heard more than a few times that its not a very good tree.

That being said faster drilling does seem incredibly useful

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>>137174780
Nice, is this Framing-frames tier of bullshit and difficulty or is it actually well designed ? From my memories, open spaces and stealth doesn't mix well at all

>>137175354
Drill skills, C4 and Bulletproof (Nothing to lose).
Pretty much the only skills worth it.

>>137175354
>any advices,

If you're going techforcer and heavy armors, go for the rifle, drill and mine skills until you reach bulletproof,

If just grinder or rogue, stick to the first two drill skills, no need to go further or spend a single point in sentries.

>>137175515
Station I would say is decently designed, with there being plenty of different ways to get around without having to do some stupid positioning bullshit. The only questionable part is the drones themselves, as they either do or don't do their camera thing unless they're standing still. Getting around above-ground is a bit tricky with the guard count overall, as the train doors that you can manually open slide open very quickly and the only way to get into the locked ones is with a panel to hack, which takes less than 30 seconds of your time. In terms of your concern however, it's not actually that open, and there are even some spots that you can sneak under to get around certain patrols.

>>137175534
>>137175697
I haven't actually considered going maximum armor, currently I was going to try and see how far I could get with various ballistic vests (and related perks/skills) as sort of a best of both worlds approach (though feel free to inform me if this path is a shit one and I'd be better off going all or nothing armor or dodge)

How hard to kill is someone with the best armor, armorer, and bulletproof (are there enough points for all of that)?

>Another update
>Another two songs.
>Still no soundtrack update.

>>137177635

>best of both worlds approach
is shit. You lose significant dodge for a piddling amount of armor, enough to absorb 0 to 1 more hits.

>How hard to kill is someone with the best armor, armorer, and bulletproof
Pretty hard. Though Muscle or Infiltrator are both better than Armorer, and even the tankiest build around can't spend too long outside of cover in DW.

>are there enough points for all of that
There are enough points for ICTV, Bulletproof, and all the necessary utility skills (like stamina, move speed, bag handling) without even being infamous.

>>137175354
>>137175534
>>137175697
Rifle skills are for DMR shitters. If you need the stability or accuracy from them for shotguns, then you have a lot of fucking problems.
Don't need to Ace Bulletproof (it's a meme that started in 2014 for some unknown reason).
Don't take Silent Drilling ever.
Shockproof is a waste of points. Only good for memeing in sub-optimal gimmick builds.

Don't bother getting Bulletproof (or get any points in Tech) if you're not going to get ICTV.
CTV+Armorer+Bulletproof is less total armour than naked ICTV. This is one of the main reasons why CTV is armour for shitters. All the negatives for none of the armour.

>bundle modder broken
RIP

>>137180172
tbqh new Iron Man should give bonuses to non-ICTV armor. Like, cutting stamina\speed penalty or something

>decide to do cloaker fear solo for some fucking reason
>throwing bags through office
>game crashes

dont know what I expected desu

>New stealth heist is Shadow Raid with actual objectives.
>Ruskies in the loud heist are an actual threat.
>Gray Fox mask isn't a full helmet
0/10 shit DLC.

>breifcase can be bugged and not spawned

Guys I don't have fun playing anymore, how can I make a fugforcer build to suck on purpose?

>>137184109
Let's reserve judgement until after all 5 trees are announced and finalised.

Did they the "leaked" safe already or no

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>>137156202
>>137156875
>>137162568
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Bulldozer (any_25_tank_kills)
- Yeah He's A Gold Digger (yeah_hes_a_gold_digger)

And the Monthly Side Job for the month of April is:
- Nostalgia (monthly_firestarter)
Complete it for a chance at a random Stat Boost or a Team Boost!

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

>>137187032
I just really don't like that "shield bash" thing. I think it would fit much better into whenever they decided to put counterstrike, berserker and pumping iron. While some bonuses to middleweight-tier armor would provide more gameplay variety for armor builds.
Also i actually agree and have no fucking idea why they decided to reveal 1 tree each week. It's not like they gonna seriously consider any feedback anyway, just like they didn't took very much from weapon rebalance\perk decks rebalances.

>boiling point involves cutting up the arm of dead(?) scientist
>the facility is definitely not akan's facility, since he is after the data from it
>in the trailers, henry got his arm replaced by cybertic prosthesis
>henry's wife is genius engineer
What if payday gang assaulted facility before Hardcore Henry movie happened and was directly responsible for creating a "hardcore henry"? As in, Henry was main researcher, got wounded, nearly died, was saved by his wife. Now Akan's after the only data on those cybertroopers that we scanned. Because Jimmy says "lets burn it now" about data, the only good info on cybertroopers that's left in the world can be provided only by Henry or his wife.
Bonus: the briefcase that Bain says "imprtant to get" but do not specifies what it contains is the one from this music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgox84KE7iY
It doesn't look like "bad motherfucker" story is directly connected to Hardcore Henry story, but it could be a reference.

>escape isnt dipping the briefcase in water and teleporting away

Shit heist.

hey you

>boiling point is actually pretty difficult
>it's because of a bug

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>>137166972

>team in the escape zone
>some random faggot is on the other side of the map killing cops for fun
>gets downed like a retard
>some guy goes to rescue him
>entire mission goes to shit

so that includes you then? or are you the random faggot on the other side killing shit?

What are some halfway decent workhorse guns?

Nothing too gimmicky, nothing dlc, just a halfway decent gun that can hold me over while I figure out what my niche is. I'm still using the AMCAR and Chimano and they're both doing fine for me so I guess assault rifles, smgs, and pistols are what I'm asking about

>>137196075
The Unbalance actually buffed the AMCAR to be sort of DW viable, it's pretty silly. The fact that a fully modded AMCAR can break 40 damage now is hilariously viable.

>>137195609
what's the bug

>>137196075

I really enjoy the Eagle Heavy. I think that's the name. I'm no pro but I've seen a lot of people endorse it and I love using it.

do the russian units talk non fucking stop like the default units or are they cold and silent pdth ones were?

>>137197458
all the enemies have 500% of their default accuracy

>>137198402
>cold and silent
I'VE GOT ONE IN THE CHICKEN PLATE

>>137197458
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/14/371918937260870715/

>>137198089
Nice damage and high stab/accuracy.

M308 is back to god status.

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So I don't think anybody noticed but one of us actually got noticed by Simon himself by making music

https://twitter.com/SimonViklund/status/715661189800411138

And this is the same anon who made a map for the last KF2 contest

We breed good shit

>>137198089
>I'm no pro
stopped reading there

>>137200453
it could also 15 or 20 roudns per mag

>>137195609
>>137199594
>>137199927
Well, if they can tone it down a bit but keep their accuracy above average then I'd love the heist just for the fact that the Mercs have better aim than the trained police force

So I haven't played in a while but is there been a mod that replaces the Kawaii with Mega Kawaii yet? I tried googling it but all I got was "that would be stealing" from last bullets forum.

>>137198089
the gun from big bank (its a FAL but i cant remember ingame name) can get slightly lower stats but has double the mag size and faster reload

>>137201358
Just use the DLC Unlocker if you really want a worse mask.

>>137200967
>heist in britain
>cops can only have pepper gas, batons and other things
>they don't come anywhere near the location of the crime

or
>sas deployed
>each unit fires one round
>heist failed and your account is reset to level 0

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>>137200832
So next stop Almir's twitter account ?

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>>137201358
>that would be stealing
>mega kawaii

>Doing hotline miami
>Literally my first time doing it, super fun
>Cook what seems like a million batches of meth
>Get to commisair super fast, throw something like 20 bags into the helecopter
>Literally at the very end
>other player gets booted
>I get booted
Wut

>>137200947

cyka blyat

>>137207657
>People keeps kicking others at the end of the heist
I guess they dont realize they lose money and exp. You got most of the exp and money the first day anyway so thats not a problem. Like always, I recommend hosting yourself if you have a decent internet and dont want to deal with retards.

>>137205542
Muh privilege as a COP owner

Dropped payday around the last crimefest, what's changed since then and should i pick it up again

>>137180172
>tfw you take silent drilling because you hate the noise
isnt the tech tree preview coming today anyways?

>>137194108
get off yer arse

Just checking, does smg specialist affect akimbo smgs?

>>137211317
>what's changed since

Stat boosts are free now, more heists, devs are shitting their pants when people are claiming the game is becoming P2W so they're throwing more and more meta free content and some of the paid dlc were not bad such as the point break heists.

Might be worth a shot.

Also is Hitman worth using now along with Heathers?

>>137214665
Yes, fo so.

>>137201358
So you want a mod for a shit mask that only you would be able to see outside heist and only in the lobby screen, use the dlc unlocker if you want that trash. I own the COP pack and I dont use a single of those mask because I'm always wearing default pref mask.

>>137215589
Hitman is never worth using but if you want cheap Heathers, go at it.
They should honestly just give Hitman dodge bonuses so that you can survive that 5 seconds you're waiting for your armour to regen

>>137215642
alright then

>>137216018
Speaking of which, are Heathers good at all in the first place? They don't seem to synergise well with MM.

>>137216268
I enjoy them and they break the 40 breakpoint but otherwise I just derive most of my enjoyment from going into Swan and just mowing everything down with them.

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>>137215589
>Hitman
Might as well go play easy.
here is what I used with the akimbo SMGs, is a personal choice
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSLmhjEFGBca:eiEfDa:tda:ghJECda:frsoKiEFGbCda:ibcdea:pN8:::
Run it with a secondary HE Judge and you can kill every single special unit and cops.

>>137216268
Wrong they require less points in pistols and they can focus with anything. However fugitive is a must if you want them to be useful with the insane DPS crits.

>>137216018
>Dodge when health regen is king
Nah even that wouldnt be worth.

>Go to Russia.
>try to cook meth for a little extra heist cash
>can't find ingredients.
>Ask Bain.
>They don't have meth. They have Krokodil. Desomorphine.
>Fine. look for ingredients.
>start cooking: Calcium Hypochlorite, Sodium Hydroxide, and Ammonium Perchlorate
>hear from outside "Davai Davai"
>Russian Mercs
>run for the evac
>Mercs squat down in a circle, start shooting up the drugs
fuckers.

>>137216882
I get Health Regen is king, I really do but not every perk deck needs HP regen.
That would just defeat the purpose and may as well just make passive HP regen a thing like in normal FPS games.
The way I see it, having a proper dodge on Hitman would actually increase survivability by leaps and bounds given that once your armour breaks, you're basically fucked.
Combine dodge with Bullseye and then the 5 second forced regen and you might actually be able to survive without getting completely wrecked.

Why has this game gotten so much harder out of fucking nowhere?

>Full armor or full dodge builds don't matter. My health is shredd either way.
>Every second enemy I run into is a tazer.
>Cop spawns seem to be at x2 the normal rate.
>3 cloakers showing up 60s after police arrive is now not uncommon to see.

The only thing that doesn't seem to be effected is dozer spawns. Was there some hidden update shit to scare off all the noobs who are coming in from the sale?

Does the new electric knuckle stun?

>>137217321
Sounds like you were playing on hosts who had toasters.

Cop difficulty goes up the faster the host computer gets because their reaction rate gets faster and the spawn rates get faster by virtue of the host computer being able to process them faster.

>>137217229
Considering the skill trees are getting updated probably Hitman is out. If they make akimbo an early acces skill in fugitive it will me useless. Health regen isnt a must but when you have good toys you keep playing with them.

>>137217449
Yes they also are faster charging for max meele damage.

>>137217574
I don't think Akimbo will become early access, I suspect it will stay at the top of the Fugi equivalent of Sharpshooter.

They should just not make you need a skill for it then replace Hitman's Akimbo skill with something else.

>>137217796
I think quite the oposite, since they made saw free for everyone and using a secondary a second tier skill i think they will either people get them for free now , or a really low tier skill such as the basic or second tier like the saw.
If they remove akimbo from htiman they will probably give it a huge dodge boost when you armor break so can actually not get shot so much with it, kinda interest if they are doing large reworks on perkdecks since they said it would make more sense with the new skilltress than the old system

>>137217574
>faster charging for max meele damage
The minimum and maximum damage is the same.

>>137217449
Yea

Buzzer is arguably better, since it has a much faster draw time so you can get those cloaker stuns in time.

Other than that, and the irrelevant charge time, they're identical.

>>137218928
But you get to punch the cops instead of poking them with a stick.

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>telling a friend to ace low blow for getting crits with the flamethrower on a grinder build
>mfw as he actually did it

>>137169198
The achievement says not using any ECMs

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Daily reminder the devs are keeping a surprise for us today

>>137226719
FREE SAFE/DRILL

IT'S A LIE

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

>>137226719
>1st april
>Also friday so new tech skill tree should come out
I wonder if they are going to release a joke one first then the real one.

>>137166972
>Beneath the mountain
>blow up the bunker door
>guy with blowtorch is running around killing cops outside

>>137227186
What if they release the real one but disguise it as a joke one

>>137227064
Hey joke on you, we should be getting the jimmy safe next week.

Enjoy your Ghewer 3, GL40 and Joceline skins you unlocucks.

>Camera detected a broken camera
Thanks OVK

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>mfw Akimbo Heathers with Bullet Storm aced active

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>>137230613
>Akimbos with fully loaded aced,

There will be a lot of retirement files today

>>137217321
Yeap what this anon said >>137217491

I used to play back when Deathwish was first released and it would change massively depending who hosted. I have a much better new computer now and so do my friends except one guy. He hosted a bunch recently and we breezed through 10 DW missions no problem. Next day I hosted, and so did someone else, and we basically were being bum rushed hard by everything all the time. We went loud Big Oil day 1 and within the first 2 minutes of the assault wave I had killed 4 Dozers, 5 Tasers, 3 Shields, 4 Cloakers. It was nuts, they were just vomiting specials at me.

It's weird how Deathwish can go from easy to feeling impossible depending on the host.

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>>137233048
>mfw pubbies it was just heist was easy by itself when i hosted with my shitty computer,

Still, after the third-four chill heist in a row, they understood something was weird.

>>137116543
Comedy gold

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Dollos ?

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Megalo-mania, nao.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/fuckingcloaker/

>>137230613
>>137232095
What mods?

Don't act dumb

>>137238446
Max concealment and if possible the IPSC one. Unless you're using Shitman, you will need to lower your detection risk as low as possible.

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332th for Cloakers charging through containers

>Boiling point DW
>Spawn
>Get tased while still being in the air
>Die

Yay, that was fun, thanks Overkill !

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>>137240805
All thanks of the black market update ;)