/dsg/ - Soulsborne General

soul lvl 120 in forest go go go

>>136162565
>What time does Dark Souls 3 come out on steam tomorrow?

april 12th

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Is there a list of new weapons/items found today?

>>136162623
channel 3 i forgot to say

>>136162639
Okay so no Japanese steam release? What about PSN?

>>136162818
in 9 hours

>DaSIII comes out at 8am PST tomorrow
>I'll only have an hour to play before I head to work

Fugggggg

twitch /clancelot360 is streaming desu

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Time to avenge Brussels, friends.

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>>136162639
Wait a sec. Japanese steam release 12th too?

WHY ARE ALL THE DARK SOULS 3 BOSSES SO FAR SO FUCKING EASY?

Seriously, where the fuck is the Ornstein & Smough or Ludwig of this game?

I'm talking about a content-gatekeeping boss who will kill most players 20-plus times before they can beat this boss.

All the bosses so far are either pushovers or require only moderate effort.

>>136162989
Ludwig is a dlc boss, friend.

>>136162981
yes, we've known that for ages

Good going, cuck

>>136162989
>>>/v/

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Where were you when non-trophy bosses were confirmed?

>>136162989
You're completely retarded if you think the equivalents of Asylum Demon, Taurus Demon, Capra Demon, Gaping Dragon, Moonlight Butterfly and Bell Gargoyles are supposed to be hard. Good thing you're not designing video games.

>>136162989
Well O&S was the halfway point and Ludwig was the first boss of the DLC.

So you're not gonna see either of "them" for a while.

>>136163063

You have got to be a fucking imbecile if you think that the game's bosses are limited only to the ones that give you cheevos/trophies.

Literally nobody in 4chan ever thought even for a second that the bosses will only be limited to that.

Any streamers past the fucking swamp I can watch?

>Lucatiel is back

OF ALL FUCKING DARK SOULS 2 NPCS

THEY BRING BACK LUCATIEL

I'M SO MAD
WHY

>>136163219
No. All the streamers online right now are settlement or earlier. I think the one whose the furthest is stuck against the tree.

>>136163221
source?

We all crestfallen now

Okay so how does buying Japanese games on PSN work? I heard you can use Paypal now and don't have to buy JP PSN cards?

>>136163213
Plenty of people were taking the Bloodborne trophies as an omen, which listed everything except for Moon Presence and the minor Chalice bosses.

>>136163276
Ugh, I was at uni and missed the fucking stream

They apparently showed a fucktonne of bosses and shit

>>136163221
But...she hollowed at the end of 2? Or do you mean her armor/weapon, because that's been known for a while

>Fume UGS returns

>It's weapon art is inferior to It's L2 attack in DaS2

GIVE ME THE REAL DBS ALREADY

HILTLESS GOT REHASHED
MLGS GOT REHASHED

REEE

I'VE WAITED THROUGH 4 FUCKING FROMSOFT GAMES AND STILL NOTHING REEEEEEEEEE

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Why the fuck is his HP bar SO FUCKING LONG?

How much VIG does he have? 99?

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>inb4 they are releasing all the versions tomorrow

>>136163341
Only one I saw was the Deacons of the Deep and its a slightly less shit Prowling Magus battle.

>>136163392
Prob ember form tbqhwy

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>>136163392
Max HP is going to be a much smaller amount, like Bloodborne. No idea why.

Pic related. A vitgouge of this magnitude in Dark Souls 1 or 2 would have way more health.

>>136163387
>Black Iron Tarkus
>Is a hostile red in Lothric
>Uses the Fume UGS

What are the lore implications of this?

Does that mean he traveled to Drangleic, beat the Fume Knight and then went to Lothric?

What is he even doing here?

>>136163392
Thats one awkward moveset

>>136163468
So I've heard.
Really, I just want to hear the music. I've been autistic in my constant repetition of searches for the official soundtrack. I'm happy to wait a couple weeks, but I need me some OST mang

>>136163438
no anon
theyre still japs we have to wait our turn

>>136163319

Just follow a tutorial on YouTube to create a Japanese PSN account. It's really easy. After that, you just go the PSN store on that account and purchase DaSIII. There should be an option to use PayPal as your payment method.

If you don't want to use PayPal, you can always purchase Japanese PSN codes through PlayAsia. They send them to you insantly through email. Once that's done, you can pre-download it and play it tomorrow in the morning/afternoon depending on your timezone.

>>136162548
Not sure if it was posted already.
New JP launch trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjY99zF3_to

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>>136163438
>fucking Aqua in the "likes" section
Goddammit

>>136163392
Ember form's HP bonus is percentage-based, so a little VIG will go an extremely long way.

>>136163667
Fucking worthless piece of shit

>>136163549
Its pointless the even think about.

>>136163286
>>136163374
she's brought back as an unkindled one of the jap streamers found the reborn lucatiel.

>>136163549
>Alva the Wayfarer
>hostile red in the fucking Boreal Valley place
>no shield, Kumo and Crossbow

Where's Zullie at

>>136163549
They're just past spirits who took up certain weapons and armours. Just random cunts and also just from being tongue in cheek. They figured what better weapon to make him return with, than the biggest, blackest piece of iron the series has had so far.

I'd have much prefered if it was an armourset that looked similar, not be the same, and the FUGS was also similar looking, but a new thing all together, a cleaner less melted version, like maybe someone took the original fume ugs and smeltered it into a new thing.

>>136163549
Alva also appeared (Alva was his literal name as an invader) wielding a murakumo and heavy crossbow

The flow of space is convulted

>>136163771
So this confirms that all the Undead who failed in linking the fire are brought back as the Unkindled?

>>136163387
Does anyone have a webm of the Fume moveset?

That was hands down one of the best DS2 weapons

Also why are you upset about a MLGS rehash? it's been in everything since kings field, unless they made it faith again like in DeS

>>136163657
There's a UGS Hex btw.

>>136163657
This really looks like Bloodborne 2

>>136163221
que?
Lucatiel is literally the best Dark Souls 2 NPC. She actually had a story and some character development.

>>136163884
But she literally did nothing

>>136163589
If you want the music for the Deacons of the Deep, you'll have to spoil yourself on the fight. But if you don't care:

Go to twitch tv/narumi23/v/55963642 and it's at 1:27:40. The music is pretty darn good.

>>136163468
>slightly less shit Prowling Magus battle.

It's only slightly less shit because it's actually harder. But it's harder for all the wrong reasons. Literally the only difficulty is through mob swarm numbers, which gets more ridiculous as the fight progresses.

At the start, you have to stay alert for maybe 1-2 fireballs on screen at the same time. But as the fight goes on, you have to manage 3-4 fireballs on screen at the same time. Then when it gets to the second phase, it's just a clusterfuck of projectiles all over the screen and explosions, some of which seem to come to you from offscreen, making for one hell of a messy boss fight. It looks like being lucky and getting good enemy AI RNG is going to be a big factor in how well you do in this fight.

Deacons of the Deep is a shit-tier boss fight. Utterly shit tier. The first truly shit tier boss of Dark Souls 3.

People need to stop defending this boss fight. Some people are only defending this boss because it's in a Miyazaki game. I am willing to bet that if this exact fight was in Dark Souls 2, it would be universally hated. But because it's in a Miyazaki game, people give it a double standard (as is often the case with Miyazakifags) and give it a slight pass.

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>>136163438
>Aqua

>>136163856
That's a bonus for me, I liked more the horror design in bloodborne and the gameplay mechanics.
I understand some people don't.

Soundtrack WHEN?

>>136163959
she's still the only NPC with a proper story and development done.

>>136163974
No

>>136163974
all you had to do to make good bait was omit the parenthetical, you fool

Why do people care about difficulty so much? Bloodborne and Dark Souls 2 were significantly harder than Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 but they were still inferior games. The exploration, the environments, the attention to detail, and the fear you get of losing your souls were what made the first 2 games good but the latter two not as good. Throwing in a bunch of enemies with tracking attacks and cheap ambushes everywhere may make the game harder but not necessarily better. If you play Demon's Souls blind and go through it very slowly and carefully you could probably get through it with less than 10 deaths. I doubt you could do that with Dark Souls 2.

>>136164005
Its not a bad thing, it just looks so much like its weird.

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is it safe to come in?

>>136163801
I dislike this if only because it ruined my head canon of Alva using the Iron Parma and Longsword/Bastarrd Sword

Seriously what kinda fuckin knight uses the Murakumo

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What rings/weapons for a STR build?
Currently using a +15 Claymore because I love the moveset, but debating between Great Club or Man Serpent Greatsword as the final weapon.

>>136163974
you're right but you won't really get much discussion on the fight's faults here.
at least until some 3 months after release when the post-release hype goggles aren't present anymore.

>>136164113
Broadsword actually

But yes. What the fuck indeed.

>>136164113
You mean the Estoc and Blossom Kite Shield.

>>136163963
do you know when he shows the ds2 greatsword moveset?

>>136163974
People defended the shitty boss fights in Bloodborne like Rom.

From drones will keep on droning.

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>>136164153
I like MSGS, Demon's great hammer is probably a better choice, it's similar to the great club

>>136163549
fuck off vaati

>>136163974
Did you actually see the boss fight? Each fireball dealt like 5% of your health in light armor and they give you plenty of opportunity to back off and heal. The only challenge is in phase 2 where they start using force, cockblocking you from the Pope while he charges his AOE curse spell. It's probably the only boss that actually places emphasis on Crowd Control and even then the Great Axe streamer who can only mash R1 one-handed still manage to out dps the fight.

I hope NG+ will make their damage Rom spider-tier to piss off crybabies like you

>>136164249
Nobody defended Rom. Its a godawful fight.

>>136163589
>>136163963
And if you want the music for High Lord Wolnir, twitch tv/narumi23/v/56060829 and 0:49:06.

>>136163725
>>136163781
>>136163791
>>136163801

So nobody is angry about all these recycled NPCs? Everyone has basically given up on criticizing Dark Souls 3 for this? Unbelievable.

Dark Souls 2 literally recycles only one NPC (Ornstein) for mindless fanservice and the fanbase goes completely frenzied with anger and rage. Yet, Dark Souls 3 recycles NPC after NPC after NPC after NPC and everyone is okay. And we haven't even seen the halfway point of the game yet. Who knows how many more lazily rehashed NPCs we will see?

None of these recycled NPCs (like Alva or Tarkus or Kirk) have had any clear lore reasons to return aside from "LOL THE FLOW OF TIEM IS CONVOLOOOTED!". Remember when we criticized Dark Souls 2 fanboys for using this excuse for all the lazily rehashed weapons and items in Dark Souls 2 like the Catarina Set and the Majestic Greatsword?

>>136164069
Because difficulty has been misunderstood. Both Demon and Dark weren't that hard (Dark had a couple of bullshit parts) and only punished impatience. Yes, indeed, some bosses required a bit of practice but that shouls be expected.

But now, Bandai (and all of the press for what matters) is just riding the idea that these games are masochistic and only a crazy guy would play them, coupled with that insufferable referecing the fact that "when you win, it feels really good!" (no shit).

I would love to see these guys play some REAL bullshit games like some of those good old Knytt Stories levels. They have NO idea what masochism is.

>>136164249
>Rom

>Shitty boss fight

??

He's Phalanx but good. Don't tell me you sat there all day locked on fighting the spiders from the front, anon?

>>136163841
just powerful undead in general cause fucking lautrec is back and he didn't do shit but be an asshole

>>136164198
He uses a bit of the DaS2 greatsword when he enters the Boreal Valley, right after High Lord Wolnir. >>136164293

>>136164298
You want to talk about recycling?
There's a room in the Boreal Valley with a Silver knight. Yes a Silver Knight. Straight from DaS1.
It drops its shield. It drops its sword. It drops its armor.

It's standing, facing away from you, staring at a picture. A picture of what? A picture of Gwynevere. Gwynevere in her exact pose from Dark Souls 1, as a painting, hung on a wall, watched by a Silver Knight.

>>136164298
>Everyone has basically given up on criticizing Dark Souls 3 for this? Unbelievable.
>I've been whining about patches and bonfire lady being recycled since 2011

time to gas yourself

>>136164298
Dark Souls 2: fanservice out the asshole while the story goes nowhere, areas are utter garbage, massive downgrade and 0 memorable new characters.

Dark Souls 3 so far: areas are fucking great and large, bosses look badass, hub is comfy as shit, no downgrade, new characters already have more charm and personality than anything ni DkS2

do you really want to compare?
fuck off

>>136164298
you need to vary your style or spread your rants out, it's too easy to tell it's the same guy

>>136164298
You are absolutely right. I admit my being a fucking hypocrite.

But Dark 2 left such a sour taste in my mouth that anything reminding me of its predecessor fills me with joy.

I'm gullible and fell for FROM's marketing all over again.

I just want a good fucking game.

>>136164317
Yeah I should have said the first two games were rewarding because if you played smart and played carefully you would succeed every time. In DS2 and especially BB it didn't matter because you were gonna die until you learned all the bullshit they would throw at you. At that point you stopped caring about losing souls because you just expected deaths everywhere.

>>136164298
I'm waiting to see if there's going to be a point for all these "rehashed" NPCs.

I hope they are not utilizing them again just for nostalgia's sake.

>>136164249
Rom isn't a bad fight, it's just difficult for people who can't multitask.

>>136164298
Ornstein was given no explanation on why he was brought back. He has 0 lore implications in DS2

All the NPCs are brought back as unkindled like >>136163771. It's a big part of the lore why they and the Lords of Cinder are resurrected.

>6:30am

A day full of work, then I can get home and enjoy DS3. I'm praying to get home as early as possible. Wish me luck anons.

>>136164437
I think Miyazaki just did a ton of meth and came up with the lore/story 45 minutes before the deadline

>>136164249
>>136164291

And in here we have two players who can't handle a simple Magic Artillery piece protected by mindless foot spiders.

>>136164298
If it's the last game I don't care. Give me fanservice out the asshole with a new "story" and decent areas and I'm a jolly camper.

If it turns out it wasn't the last game, then I'm gonna be posthumously mad.

8h 28m

>>136164463
Rom's a shit fight because the whole find involves around hitting a sandbag that frequently just says "fuck off and get away from me" with AoE attacks while avoiding blindside instantkill attacks from offscreen spiders.

It's shit because the difference between success and failure depends on your ability to keep track of which one of the 20 enemies spread out in a circle, slowly strafing, is about to homing divebomb you for all of your health

>>136164546
Or hes just sick of the series and wants it to end.

>>136164291
>>136164249

Fucking plebs

Rom is a GOAT fight. Stay on your toes and keep moving and learn how to fucking dodge. It's literally not even hard.

Chalice Rom on the other hand, is hard, but still doable for the same reasons, you need to manage your space and use your environment and be patient.


>>136164437
This pissed me off.

What even is this game. What is with From and rehashing?

Bloodborne was from start to finish entirely new shit free from rehashing, and only got the MLGS after people whined for it.

I was hoping Dark Souls 3 was going to focus more on it's own stuff, but so far it's just peppered with throwbacks.

Which I don't mind, but when it's glaring retarded obvious shit like a Silver Knight staring at gwyneveres tits, I get mad.

>>136164490
where did you buy your yen from familia?

>>136164284
>Did you actually see the boss fight?
Yes, I did see the fight, you disingenuous faggot. I was here when Narumi beat Deacons on his second try.

>Each fireball dealt like 5% of your health in light armor and they give you plenty of opportunity to back off and heal.
And that supports what I said earlier that the difficulty only comes from numbers. It's not because the boss has an interesting moveset that requires a lot of strategic thinking and pattern analysis to overcome. It's just getting hit by annoying fireballs that often come from offscreen.

>The only challenge is in phase 2 where they start using force, cockblocking you from the Pope while he charges his AOE curse spell. It's probably the only boss that actually places emphasis on Crowd Control and even then the Great Axe streamer who can only mash R1 one-handed still manage to out dps the fight.
And that's another poorly designed element. Instead of carefully ducking, dodging and weaving through boss attacks, you just messily run in and out to attack the Pope in the middle while often getting hit by attacks from all around you because there is just no way you can pay attention to what 8-9 enemies are doing all at once and be able to react to what they do at the exact same time.

>I hope NG+ will make their damage Rom spider-tier to piss off crybabies like you
Fuck off. This is poor boss design, you fucking faggot. And you know it.

The aesthetics of the levels in this game are so good holy shit

That was one of the weaker areas of From's art team but they really stepped it up for Bloodborne and now DS3..

They're ultra-detailed but still tasteful in design... just so fucking aesthetic desu.

AYYOO WHERE THE PC LEAK AT
HURRY THE FUCK UP YOU STREAMER FUCKING CUNTS

>>136164596
>offscreen

Don't have any threats offscreen

>strafing

So you were locked on. Gotcha. You're awful at the game.

From is literally this:

Keep moving in a clockwise motion around rom unlocked, dispatching spiders and sprinting when he raises up to shoot projectiles, once the spiders are all gone, hit him till he fucks off, repeat till dead. You shouldn't ever be locked on to anything in that fight.

>>136164608
You can bitch about the Silver knight but once the streamer reaches the Pontiff and it's revealed why he's using the Darkmoon blade buffs people are going to go 10/10 Miyazaki bravo for continuing the Anor Londo lore.

>>136164606
Yeah that to

I figured when he made BB he wanted something different, he clearly likes European history a lot so he made a game more focused on it (DS1 was close, Demon's Souls was ehh kinda with Boletaria but not much else)

Also him saying this is going to be the last souls game for awhile told me it was going to be his final hurrah

Not to mention the game looks like fucking bloodborne

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>>136164707
>That was one of the weaker areas of From's art team
That's mostly Dark Souls 2, which was made by talentless and clueless B-team.

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>>136164793
>fartmoon blade is back

fucking end me now

>all these anti DaS2 shitposting

Is it me or are we getting an influx of /v/tards in here?

Launch Trailer for those who missed it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjY99zF3_to

>>136164449
I make no claims to being 100 different guys.

I'm the same guy who has been criticizing the community's hypocrisy in treating Dark Souls 2's and Dark Souls 3's mindless fanservice with different standards.

>>136164841
That's a nitpicking picture, but overall that's absolutely right: Dark 2 looks so bland, generic and utterly devoid of anything interesting to be looked at.
>But... Dragon Aerie and Shrine of Amana
Yes. Wonderful locations. But for each Shrine of Amana you have 20 undead crypts with its long straight corridors with repeating textures.

>>136164679
>What are UGS swings
>What is countering with your own Force Miracle, AOE miracles and Soul greatsword
>What is Crowd Control on a bunch of non-threatening roadblocks?

The very fact that you think you even need to pay attention to a stumbling block that can barely damage you shows how bad you are at solving gimmick bosses. Hell, I bet you think Chalice Rom was harder than story Rom because you have pillars in the boss arena don't you?

>>136164596
You make it sound way harder than it is. The spiders are hilariously easy to pick off by either attacking them from the side or baiting their extremely telegraphed divebomb. Even when Rom is shooting at you, the audio and visual cues give you plenty of time to dodge.

>blindside
>keep track

Isn't this your own fault for letting the spiders get around and behind you? Or did you really think running right up to Rom and leaving the swarm of spiders alone to do whatever they want was the solution? Rom's AoE forces you right into the spiders if you try this, it's only viable if you're able to damage him fast enough to stagger him and keep him from teleporting. Or if you bank on being super-lucky and not getting attacked by the spiders at all.

Guys, I have been sleeping. Any new bosses discovered since Deacons?

>>136164954
What you are is a whiney little bitch. Simmer down, kid

>>136164621
Playasia.

Left side, click either of the "$5 off" and save yourself a little bit of money.

http://www.play-asia-couponshare.com/

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>>136164953
OnlyAfro dressed as an anime girl for those who missed it

>>136164941
>Elite Knight's
>Falchion
>Darkmoon Blade
We Oroboro now.

>>136165048
High Lord Big Skelly >>136164293

>>136165048
High Lord Wolnir >>136164293
Also the Boreal Valley was found.

>>136164950
>Is it me or are we getting an influx of /v/tards in here?
the streams worth watching are gone and the game launches early tomorrow, so anyone who plans to play it is probably sleeping

>>136165092
I've always wanted to shave my legs and experienze the Zettai Ryouiki on myself but I'm too scared to do it.

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IS THE DINGY SET COMING BACK? I NEED IT FOR FASHION, YO

Am I the only one who noticed that there was also the portrait of Nashandra in the room with the Silver Knight and Gwynevere portrait?

>>136165241
Who?

>>136165070
>3000 yen cards are sold out
Shit, do I have to buy 3 1000 yen cards? how fast do they restock

How many new NPCs and enemies are there? I didn't watch any streams but you people seem to act like 90% of shit is returning from the previous games.

>>136165092
Is he really from Chavez-land? Also, is he a real trap or is it "JUST A PRANK BRO"?

Still no late game boss fights?
Are japs really shit or no one is streaming?

>>136165185
I did it once

Dick was diamond s the whole time, yet it constantly felt odd. As if the arousal was from the taboo itself.

Killing the archer giant in the settlement nets you the hawk ring

>>136165367
Have you seen how big the areas are?

>>136165367
>late game

Dude, no one's even beaten more than one of the Lords of Cinder.

>>136164953
>you fight only 1 abyss watcher
Oh shit, so the dude from yesterday wasn't bullshitting.

>>136165315
most of the normal enemies and NPCs who settle in firelink are new. it's the BP invaders who are all throwbacks -- mildred, xanthous king, etc.

how about bonfires placement? more like das1 or 2?

>>136164995
>What are UGS swings
>What is countering with your own Force Miracle, AOE miracles and Soul greatsword
>What is Crowd Control on a bunch of non-threatening roadblocks?

Ah, yes, the same exact excuses people used to defend garbage mob bosses in Dark Souls 2 like Royal Rat Vanguard or Prowling Magus or Skeleton Lords.

>>136165367
Both.

So the Jap katana streamer got so mad at the Giant throwing javelin at him in Undead settlement that that he rushed in and killed him. Dropped Hawk ring though so that's interesting.

>>136165367
The best streamer is a Great Axe 1Hand R1 spamming guy who facetanks and outdps bosses. What did you expect?

>>136165486
The same excuse Miyazaki fags when they were confronted with the same question.

GitGud.

>>136164420
holy shit they fixed that thing up real nice. no more retarded cracks and ugly shit all over it and a better moveset? im fucking set for this game now.

So does time of day change or did they cut it?

>>136165460
DaS 1, for sure. Much more sparse. World design is still DaS2's but individual level design is a lot closer to DaS1/BB. Very tight yet expansive areas with smartly-placed shortcuts.

>>136165185
I did it once, it feels really weird, I wore jeans for like a month afterwards

I can't describe it, I wouldn't do it again if that helps

>>136165317

Apparently he's in Venezuela, I mean he looks white so it's not impossible that he's like pure spaniard, and if I was white I'd want to get the fuck out

And yeah he said "I lost a bet so I had to dress up like an anime girl"

he uses (or at least did use 4chan) so it wouldn't surprise me if he fell for the trap meme or was just joking, it's a 50/50 guess

So we've seen:

Iudex
Vordt
Greatwood
Deacons
Wolnir

And in the network test, we saw Dancer of the Boreal Valley.

Who else have we seen on stream so far in terms of bosses?

>>136165486
They are complete garbage but also complete jokes in difficulty. Your crybabying about Deacons and Rom's difficulty is the one that puts things in perspective.

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>Try to buy yen codes
>Stuck on Status: Hold for days
>Literally 0 (ZERO) explanations on what Status: Hold is
What does Playasia mean by this?

>>136165604

Without spoiling too much, how was Deacons and Wolnir?

>>136165604
>Deacons
>Wolnir
Got links my friend?
I was in a coma yesterday and just got up.

How does it feel knowing by the time we get the game the Japanese players will already have beaten the game several times and will probably be bored of the game and will have moved on to something else?

>>136165681
Deacons was a trashy, gimmicky mob fight that you probably won't like.

Wolnir was pretty shitty in terms of actually fighting the boss but it looked fucking cool.

>>136165604
Not seen but if the Intern leaker who was right about the Abyss Watcher fight being 1v1, he fought Champion Gunder and Ponalliff, said he buffs his blade with Dark Moon buff and has a raven cloak effect when he moves.

>>136165681
Wolnir seemed cool. High HP or defense but taking out his weak spots do a lot of damage. The camera for the fight seems awful though

>tfw when i wake up in 8hrs i can play dark souls 3

>>136165707
Good. Fighting Japs in Souls is the fifth or sixth Hell layer.

>>136165707

That's good.

Means less laggy meta shitters to invade.

>>136165681
Deacons was shit, but not as shit as RRV, Celestial Emissary and Prowling Magus.

Wolnir was ok I guess. Giant boss that does giant swings like Old Iron King. His arena is spooky though.

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>DaS3 does a bunch of stuff that DaS2 tried to do
>except DaS3 does it well
>it actually IS okay when Miyazaki does it
meme magic is real

>>136165707
Feels good knowing japs are beta testing it for us.

>>136165601
It's like every level is Shulva

The Deep Cathedral was fucking massive

>>136165643
>them being jokes in difficulty excuses poor boss design
>it's totally okay when Miyazaki does mob swarms!

>>136165843
Don't forget he summons skellies and skelly wheels

>>136165848
>implying this is meme magic

son i don't think you pray to lord kek

>>136165696

>>136163963
>>136164293

I think that one Jap actually just broke the game with his build it looks way harder wiht this katana shit.

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Literally, memes and epic jokes aside

why is there 2 weeks inbetween JP and WW release when the game is as good as finished?

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>20 days

>>136165681

Deacons is literally a mixture of Royal Rat Vanguard, Celestial Emissary and Prowling Magus. It's a shit fight.

Wolnir is literally Skeleton Lords 2.0 in that he summons skellies and bone wheels. It's another shit fight. With even more shit camera.

>>136165979
It doesn't sound so long to me

It's like when it's 1:50 and a class gets out at 2

It's the 23rd, we're in the home stretch nigga

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>yfw Wolnir summons his giant glowing sword
>yfw you can make that sword with his soul

What stream we watching

>>136165963
If you're talking about mtsuzuki, he's just another R1 spammer but he's not smart enough to VIT dump and doesn't have a big poise stick to back it like the Greataxe streamer.

>>136166090
Clancelot360
other two streamers are shit, one has his mic shoved up his ass

>>136165681
Deacons is a mob boss with a massive horde of infinitely respawning enemies that crowd around and defend key targets. Phase 1 is similar to the royal rat vanguard in that it's just identifying and killing the key targets.
In phase 2, the leaders spawns and the entire horde crowds around him, forcing you to wade through a dense wall of enemies to reach him. Caster mobs spam heal on him constantly as long as they're not in combat and spam force to keep you away if you approach the leader. Another tpe of special mob group together and cast a blanket of curse that covers the entire boss arena, effectively putting the fight on a time limit.

It's a neat concept. The boss itself was fairly easy and did low damage, and the only real threat of dying was being cursed in phase 2, and that alone made it a neat paradigm.
Still a mob boss, though.

Wolnir is the upper half of a giant skeleton coming out of an abyss portal. If you approach too close to the hole its body is coming from, you take damage and get pushed back. It attacks by casting spells, swiping at you with its arms, summoning skeletons (including wheel skeletons!) and occasionally summons a sword which it swings for a little while before jamming into the ground and detonating in an AoE. It had 3 golden bracelets that served as weakpoints, breaking for massive damage when hit enough, though it could be hit anywhere for decent damage. The bracelets glowed and destroying them meant that the arm would blend into the darkness of the abyss churning all around you and attacks from that arm became hard to see coming.

Wolnir was a little too tall for the kind of fight he was and made the camera sort of bad for it. The arena and presentation was cool as fuck but he was basically an abyssal skeleton version of OIK.

>>136165767
>Champion Gunder

So how different is Champion Gundyr from the Iudex Gundyr fight?

I really hope he has a completely different moveset and isn't just only given 1-2 extra moves.

>>136166152
He probably doesn't explode into a tentacle monster halfway through the fight.

>>136165969
Because unfortunately some people in the world are retarded and we have to learn to co-exist with them.

>3 launches on Steam 3 days after bday
>during 2 week break period
>will have the money and the time
>game even has Deus vult gear
I'm going to do it bris
I'm fucking living it

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>>136166147

I must be the only person on /dsg/ who doesn't mind and even likes mob boss fights. Especially when they have cool concepts or have a great arena setting (e.g Living Failures).

>>136166152
the guy who spoiled champion said it was much harder, and that abyss watcher was the hardest boss he had found

>>136165643
>They are complete garbage but also complete jokes in difficulty
I don't get this meme around the series. I got Dark Souls at launch and obviously died a few times to most bosses but afterwards I went and played Demon's Souls and beat every boss on my first attempt. The "souls games are really difficult" meme is cancerous. The games are really good for a lot of reasons and have a ton of replayability but it's not because they're difficult.

I hope you all are enjoying these streams right now. Tomorrow every stream is going to be the big popular streamers with their layouts blocking half the gameplay and their constant donation and sub notifications popping up and they will focus more on the chat and their money than the gameplay.

>>136166341
difficulty =/= YOU DIED

>>136163392
>The moveset
I just wet my pants.

>>136166126
Meh, he's a knight+longsword build again though he caught up to the Treeboss. I'm watching him fight and if he doesn't job as badly or he swaps into a more interesting weapon, I'll stick around.

Iudex Gundyr: Boring, forgettable tutorial boss with a lackluster second phase.

Vordt: Piece of shit joke boss.

Deacons: It's like they never learned after Royal rat vanguard or Rom.

Great wood: shitty hit the weakspot boss. Artificial difficulty.

High lord wolnir: Another shitty weakspot boss.

So far the bosses are fucking shit and piss easy. Hopefully the later bosses will redeem these pieces of shit.

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I don't need it...

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>>136166147
>Wolnir was a little too tall for the kind of fight he was and made the camera sort of bad for it.

I've said this before, but they honestly could make these "big" fights more manageable for the camera by giving players the option to zoom the camera backwards and allow us to see more of the arena like in Bayonetta. Bayonetta is a game where you often fight bosses 100 times your size. But there are never any camera issues in that game because of things like pic related.

>>136166250
Hello fellow April 8th Birthday brother. Maybe we should co-op the first boss together to set each other up for success in our upcoming journeys.

>>136166342

I'll be streaming the Japanese version at around 5-6:30pm PST for some of my friends. If you're interested I'll post my PSN.

Since everyone's most likely gonna pick Knight, I'm gonna go with Sorcerer and play around with sorceries and hopefully the Velka's Rapier if I can manage to find it at some point.

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>>136165214
God I hope so

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>18 bosses
>1 is a rehash of the tutorial boss

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>Love Gothic and Lovecraftian horror
>Couldn't play BB because no console
>know I'll enjoy DaS3 anyway but still kind of sad I have to go back to dark fantasy
>tfw

>>136166418
Nice memes. Gundyr > Asylum Demon, Vanguard, Last Giant

Okay, mtsuzuki8 just reached the swamp so those that missed it can catch up know.

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>>136166341
>The games are really good for a lot of reasons and have a ton of replayability but it's not because they're difficult.

Fucking this.
If you've been through one souls game chances are that all the others will be considerably less challenging. You don't go back for the difficultly, you go back for the fun"

>A lot of lords that lit the fire are returning
>Undead called unkindled are rising up from their graves
>npc invaders that are returning characters suddenly doesn't make any sense for some reason

I know the rehash thing is a little lame, but npc invaders aren't significant at all so I don't give a damn.

>>136166484
bayonetta's big bosses are really shitty though. the entirety of her interaction with the boss you pictured is on distant platforms (with the boss in the background), or locked rails leading into QTEs. it's definitely not a good boss and it's largely because of how it was designed to avoid a free camera

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Is there any good (or at least not bad) stream I can watch on youtube or elsewhere?
I'm sick of the start locations and I just would skip them. Please, help.

>>136166545
If you are streaming as a Soccerer, just plow through everything with the cheapest spells so that you can spend more time exploring and less time dieing.

Wasn't there a guy who showed the abyss watchers sword moveset?
Is there a vid of a boss fight?

Guys I need the best gems, I have too much ritual materials and need to know which tier 5 i should make.
I use the
Rakuyo
Burial blade
Evelyn


Assist me please. I'm sick of getting shit gems from Isz HELP

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Some of you guys are alright. don't go to lothric tomorrow

So have the shitposters been proven wrong about invasions yet?

>>136166762

I like to think I'm pretty good at Souls games, so I don't think I'll be dying too much.

Definitely expect hefty amounts of exploration, though.

>>136166342
I'm gonna be streaming it for some friends, starting Merc then going quality for Farron shenanigans

One of em can read Japanese for translating shit

>>136166796

pwmf22gu - radials
5pwujscd - triangle

27.2 physical gems

>>136166504
My brother in arms.
>>136166562
>bloodstained skirt
>Chester's coat
Dingy dingy

>>136166691
complaining about "rehashed black phantoms" (who the fuck could possibly care?) became the new shitposting after this morning's multiplayer shitposting got totally derailed

it was a good day

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>>136166817
If they turn out to be right I'm gonna jump out a window

>>136166884
Do you want me to suck you off because I will. Thank you anon.

>>136166545
Oh thank god I havent seen any new spells or anything and im hoping theyve added a decent few

>>136166817
yes

the one major stream today was invaded repeatedly at least by the npc phantoms

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>>136166923
There's a few

>>136166691
>npc invaders that are returning characters suddenly doesn't make any sense for some reason

It's not that it doesn't make sense. It does. But the thing is, the "Lothric is a time clusterfuck" excuse is a lame one. It's just an easy excuse to lazily bring back older NPCs and equipment instead of making brand new ones.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a little fanservice. But what FROM seems to be doing in Dark Souls 3 is using the lame excuse mentioned earlier to bring back older gear so that they don't have to put in effort to come up with new ones. Yes, there's plenty of new material in Dark Souls 3 obviously. But there could have been much, much more instead of only having 1 new weapon for every 2 old weapons.

I want new NPC invasions. I was already wowed by Tarkus and Kirk in Dark Souls 1. There's no need for me to reexpereince them again. I want new NPC blacksmiths. Andre was already a comfy uncle figure in Dark Souls 1. How about a brand new comfy uncle figure?

>>136166907
I'm gonna invade someone to check it first thing I do.

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>>136166926
>the one major stream today was invaded repeatedly at least by the npc phantoms

That doesn't prove shit.

>>136166709
I'm not talking about the quality of the actual bosses themselves. In terms of quality, they are hit or miss in Bayonetta.

I'm talking about how Bayonetta doesn't have any camera issues when it comes to ultra big bosses because of the way the camera is zoomed all the way out. This is something that Dark Souls ought to have to make the big bosses more fun to fight instead of having them cover like 50 percent of your visibility.

>>136166923

I'm excited for the spells, too.

My PSN is Audelainne, if you're curious about the stream. Again, I'll probably start it up at around 5-6:30pm PST. Depends on how my work day goes.

I'll be on Twitch, by the way.

>>136166568
19. There's also the final boss.
Unless you don't count the rehash as a boss, then it's 18.

>>136167018
Do you know how early you can get the full red eye?

I've heard some stuff about it, apparently you have you fight one of the dickwraiths from new londo except he's in some weird spot

>>136167019
if the only proof you'll accept is actual invasions then there's no point to your question since the servers aren't open

there was the gameinformer guy who contacted the namco rep, and the fact that the shitposting was based entirely on google translate

>>136166881
Leave the link for some of us, anon.

I might go to yours

Fuck, the boreal valley is god damn beautiful

if only the DaS2babby with a persecution complex would fuck off for good
>y-y-you're all muhyazahki cocksuckers
>if das2 pulled that shit you would all be hating

>>136167145
you can get a CREO as a starting gift

>>136167184
It's Cainhurst 2.0.

was the boreal valley where the silver knights and paintings of gwynevere were?

>>136167081
what i'm saying is though that it's not just the zoom-out, bayonetta makes heavy use of locked combat planes with fixed camera angles in its large boss fights. this is a big part of why the camera works, but also why the big bosses are shitty and not as interactive as free fights with normal-sized bosses

>>136167145
You have to talk to that Assassin guy in Firelink repeatedly and he will eventually inform you about the location. So about 2 hours in

is any streamer further than mtsuki?

>just woke up
Is das2 already ded?

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FIND THE HMLS ALREADY

I SWEAR TO FUCK IF ITS BEHIND DLC AGAIN

>>136167249

Every 3-4 hours, someone discovers a new form of mindless fanservice.

Latest one? Silver Knight looking at Gwynevere painting. All copy and pasted from Dark Souls 1.

If Dark Souls 2 did this, everyone would be outraged. You literally cannot deny this. Double standards? Double standards.

>>136167264
Yes.
From, a distance, it looked like Anor Londo in a snowglobe. Inside the actual area, it had a very bloodborne aesthetic (victorian/gothic architecture with streetlights)

>>136166602
Don't mean to rub it in, but Bloodborne absolutely fucking NAILED the lovecraftian theme. This is doubly true for the DLC.

>>136167259
The ambiance is quite different

Has any streamer found the stoc yet? I don't want to start as assassin.

>>136167328
3rd Boss, still in the 2nd area. ~2 hours into the game.

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>>136167328
Fuck, forgot spoiler.

How far is this?

>>136167250
What are all the gifts? Anything OP like master key?
>>136167294
he's the guy you meet in the cell that tells you to go to some village or different guy?
>>136167335
sexy

>>136167259

The only thing they have in common is that its winter there

Fextralife going crazy

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actual pic of wolnir

>>136167370
You can buy it>>136167350

>>136167370
*estoc

>>136167162
Will do, I'll post it when it's almost launch time

>>136167395
Ok, thank you.

>>136167445
>Heard you were talking shit.
>Like I wouldn't know

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>>136167417

>>136167417
No, the masked asshole with the shotel

>>136167329
yes
praise be to allah

>>136167346
>everyone would be outraged.
Who? The only ones outraged are retarded salty das2 babies that can not accept that their game even with all the fanservice possible would still stink.

According to this EK NPC, You can access Farron's area and the cathedral from the swamp.

That might explain why the axe guy already had the abysswatcher boss soul. You might be able to challenge them as what would technically be your 4th boss.

>>136167401
Literally where the press embargo ends, aka about halfway from the furthest streamer.

>>136167346
I doubt that any souls fan is upset by fanservice. Nice strawmen

>>136167578
Kek. Keep at it with the hypocrisy.

Dark Souls 2 literally only recycled one NPC and the fanbase went nuts. Now Dark Souls 3 is recycling NPCs like it's the end of the world and you're all jumping through hoops trying to defend it.

Where are the fucking sages

I need to kill them for magic

>>136167461
cool. where?

Been away for 10 hours, anything new?

>>136167658
You are beyond delusional. Fuck off to /v/ with your shitposting

>>136167658
>only recycled one NPC and the fanbase went nuts.
went nuts not because of the fanservice but because the game is pandering to twitchfags, memesters and pvpfags.
That's why das2 is fucking shit you dumb das2baby.

>>136167658
I think you're shitposting at this point considering what his post was.

So who is our Seathe and Nito 2.0?

>>136167713
Andre, iirc

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So we have Pyromancy again, right? I NEED my Great Combustion

>>136167839

Nito = Wolnir

Seathe = ??

>>136167717
They beat the Catacombs 2.0 and found Boreal Valley which is Disney land/Cainhurst 2.0

>>136167863
no

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>>136167839
make your picks.

>>136167874


Oceiros?

>>136167717
High Lord Wolnir and Boreal Valley have been discovered. Check the thread for twitch links

>>136167839
Seathe = Consumed King maybe

>>136167863
gc and flamespray are confirmed

>>136166545
can't you stream on twitch or something?

>>136167935

Is that the weird dragon guy with mushrooms growing out his back? If so then probably him.

>>136167889
Nice thanks for the update.
What about the bosses? Are they good?

>>136167815
>pvpfags
if only, at least it would have had longevity and people would have organized more events

>>136167909
what
is this it?

>>136168010
He beat Wolnir first try. The design was really cool though

Nice meme game

>>136168010
A slightly better Prowling magus fight and an Old Iron king/Skeleton Lord fight in complete darkness. Both area easy and can be facetanked through with GreatAxe

HE RESTED AT THE BONFIRE AND THE ITEM DISAPPEARED

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>136168079
No, there are trophyless bosses too

>cheesing the forest gankers with the ladder
AHAHAHA. Oh that'a brilliant!

>>136168083

Thanks

>>136168141
i mean he facetanked everything with the axe up until boreal valley, which broke him

>>136168010
Wolnir had God tier atmosphere + music. Narumi was challenged until the gimmick was figured out.

I play dark souls for the PVP

*duel bows*

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>>136168141
>Deacons of the Deep
>A slightly better Prowling magus fight

It's a 1/10 quality boss fight and you know it. It's literally the first shit-tier boss fight of the game.

>>136168079

There are a fucking shit load of mini bosses.

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>>136167850
Hmm. Andre doesn't seem to have a sell option.

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I saw a Giant Crab the other day, horrible creatures.

>>136168265
Manic Magus and his Crazy Congregation were less than a 1/10 so a 1/10 is still "slightly better"

>>136168265
>implying prowling Magus wasn't 0/10

>>136168265
>1/10
>not higher than the shitfest 0/10 that barely qualifies as a boss fight by having generic enemy slapped togather.

>>136168265

I liked it. Atmosphere was bretty gud as well.

people on channel 3?

>>136168301
WHEEL AND DEAL WHEEL AND DEAL

EIGHTEEN
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>>136168354
>>136168354
I liked the Prowling Magus
Free titanite slab

as far as i can tell the swamp is the breakoff point for the different paths to lords of cinder. it's way too big to not contain all the possible directions

>>136168368
>by having generic enemy slapped togather.

Oh, you mean like Deacons of the Deep?

Because all throughout the Cathedral area, you fought the different priests. :^)

Do you really think one of the twitchers is gonna leak the game?

>>136168440
half the areas we've seen are fuckhuge though

>>136168461
Did you see him fight the pope and his healing, force spamming meat shields in the Cathedral?

>>136168462
It's less than 12 hours till the game officially release.

>>136168462
>do i think one of the twitchers is going to ruin his life for some shitters on the internet
i was going to say no, but when i typed that out it actually sounds plausible

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Hey guys, remember when From Software made you fight one of the best boss fights in all the Souls games within the first 2-3 hours of the game?

Remember how this helped make the game he was in the best Souls game of them all?

Remember when you didn't have to wade through 4-5 shit-tier bosses to have an excellent, challenging and enjoyable fight?

>>136168549

Yes, I did. But that's not what you argued though. You argued that Deacons doesn't have generic enemies slapped together. Which is blatantly false if you saw Narumi fighting the priests throughout the cathedral.

Moving goalposts, eh?

>>136168652
truly bloodborne was the ultimate gamer experience for the sony playstation 4

Does anyone have twitch links for other bosses aside from Deacon and High Lord posted in this thread?

>>136168652

>tfw Gasolene was the only good bossfight until I Gehrman and eventually Logarius on my 2nd playthrough.

>>136168652
remember when they delivered a game with 6 weapons and minutes long load screen, as well as being like 5 hours long? good times

>>136168734
The pope wasn't generic and he's the one with a life bar. All the adds are generic enemies but are you going to argue that just because the adds are generic the whole fight was generic? By that definition even High Lord Wolfiner is generic because he summon generic skellies

>>136168734
Well the actual deacon is the guy with the pope hat not the generic priest enemies.

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>>136168861
you're STILL mad, PCuck???

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FUGS

Looks like suzuki found the watchdogs.

>>136167965

That's what I'll be doing.

>>136168982
nice, never seen that one before
i own bb and a ps4 though, and im gonna be playing das3 in a few hours
bb is hte weakest souls game

WE ASYLUM DEMON NOW

>>136169023
for a second i thought the dead wolf was supposed to symbolize the farron company. maybe that's the location up the elevator past asylum demon?

https://youtu.be/4xIf3SD5zso

Fuck it. The moment I get my grubby hands on the game I am acquiring Solaire's chest piece. I want to have fun with sun shit.

You people are too negative.

>>136168773
Not really but twitch tv/mtsuzuki8 is fighting a petrified Asylum Demon right now.

>>136168265
>Deacons of the Deep
>Actual boss with mechanics
>Prowling Magus
>two priest healing and a random enemy called Magus spamming shit
Yeah ok

>Asylum demon
OH BOY

>>136168985

>that 1h WR r1 on Bordts Hammer

NOICE

>>136168985
>FUGS has the same moveset from DaS2

FUCK YES. That was my favorite weapon in that game.

But why is Tarkus using that weapon? And why is he attacking us when he was such a bro in Dark Souls 1?

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should i skip leg day?

>>136169174
>he doesn't know
Tarkus was originally supposed to invade you, in an even more powerful state, with fully upgraded armor and weapon. SL 100. In Anor Londo.

This didn't work out since no one could beat him.

Asylum Demon has a grab attack and some rock(?) spitting attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8RQWdLgceM

>>136168985
>he didn't use the one handed R2

Fuck I hope it's still in, I loved using that on unsuspecting nerds who thought rapier spam could beat me, until that move blocked them and hit a 600

Any streamers still up?

Or videos of the Crsytal Sage and Not Artorias?

>>136169292
he dropped a soul, 10 bucks says this makes the molten hammer

>>136169096
>>136169292

He beat the demon and he dropped the the Soul of a Demon needed to make the demon weapons. Looks like they have been demoted to mini-boss status now.

>>136169306
He did, it's the bastard sword slam at 0:13

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>>136167889
>Disney land/Cainhurst 2.0
Fuck the place is amazing.

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Isn't that the Ancient Wyvern ?

>>136169292
>>136169096

I'm on my mobile right now and can't watch the stream, but are you fucking serious?

Asylum Demon?

Literally THE Asylum Demon? Why?

>>136169390
No, it's just a wyvern. Same type that were all over the high wall.

>>136169406
>Why?
Because REMEMBER DARK SOULS 1??? xD

>>136169389
see that giant cathedral in the back
you can go there
and fight dual wield darth vader

miyazaki delivers on the promises todd fails on

>>136169406
Asylum demon but it looked like it was made of rocks or covered in Ash.
Mini-boss, no boss health bar

>>136169406
it was a random miniboss he encountered in some corner. it was not required for progression. it had a new skin and some new attacks. it dropped a Demon Soul that can be used to craft special weapons at Ludleth

it's pretty interesting because afaik it's the first example of a "boss soul weapon" dropping from a miniboss

So, atm, mtsuzuki8 is the furthest in the game, right ?

>>136169406
They are just mini-bosses now like the Titanite demon. Calm your tits.