/hotsg/ - Heroes of the Storm General

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

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Second for meme ults

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3rd for uncle issues

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Where the FUCK is Superman????

Rip jaina

>>136040950

She'll be fine if removing bolt breaks her she wasn't worth saving.

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XTH FOR KINKY

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>>136041006
INDUBITABLY

>no essence collector in first ptr game
glitch in the matrix?

>>136041186
it bothers me that the picture isn't actually transparent

we have two maps from diablo, will the other games get their own maps too?

>>136041415
How have they not done a Warsong Gulch map?

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>>136041186
DEAD TO THE LIVING!

>>136041513
You wan a TLV and SC maps?

>>136041005
No she won't as a short range caster she needed the. Now she is just a free kill with no defensives until 20 that just stuns her to avoid damage.

Ice barrier is a very bad talent as well.

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>>136041513
Capture the flag, moba style? Why not?

>>136041513
Better yet, give us AB or the Gilneas battleground. Style the map after ToD only instead of capping it once and done you have to hold onto the point to keep shooting the enemy core.

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here, it's now properly transparent, instead of just pretending to be with the background

>>136041974
I DUN FUCKED UP

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>>136041974
SAVED, I NEEED MORE KINKYS

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>>136042093
let's try this one

>>136041974
>>136042238
These are disgusting.
This is NOT another victory for the scourge.

>>136041974
>>136042238
u dun it nao arry

WHY THE FUCK ARE THE LAYERS STACKING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER?
FUCKING CHRIST
i set each layer properly, but when i render it, they all show up and stack what the fuck

>taking mobility talents away from heroes without any mobility skills.
havent they heard of mobility creep or what?
also
>where were you when jaina was "self-stun worthy of a lvl 20 talent" kill

>>136041727

Oh boy she really needed that blink she can't use till lategame so bad. Fuckin bronzie.

>>136042452
>havent they heard of mobility creep or what?

Haven't you heard of cancer? Free blinks are cancer to mobas, pure and simple.

>>136042527
>lategame where getting a kill on a hero can allow you to push core
i bet you are the one who pings merc camps when half enemy team is dead at 20 min.

>>136040950
Her 47% win rate was too high she needed to be brought down. No need for defensive talents before 20 a talent that just stuns you in place.

FRIENDLY FIRE FUCKING WHEN?

>>136042647
yes i dont like free blinks, but taking them away from heroes while leaving innate skills-blinks for certain heroes is retarded.

>>136042657

Not my fault you shitters need a free escape to not feed.

>>136042527
A short range caster that does damage in basically melee range needs some for of mobility. Bolt was very important at any mediocre or above level of play, but when you only play against shitters utility talents don't matter

>>136042752

Skill blinks aren't free tho.

>>136042746
>95% of skillshots are now absolute shit
Never.
Unless you mean denies.
Denying isn't a thing in this game because Blizz doesn't want you to stomp on their shitty casual playerbase.

>playing Dehaka
>throw out Q
>meanwhile enemy nazeebo zombie walls me
>pull in the enemy stitches just as the zombie wall goes up
>tfw I'M NOT TRAPPED IN HERE WITH YOU YOU'RE TRAPPED IN HERE WITH ME

>>136042889

I mean it IS supposed to be a casual moba

>>136042781
nothing can stop enemy from tearing you a new orifice now, you arent a long range caster like liming, you have to come close to do damage.But you surely can take ice block and stun yourself. There is a reason divine palm is considered shit and stasis is one part of it, but it at least heals you.

>>136042781
>93% pick rate in master
>100% pick rate in competitive
>bolt
>bad
Just stop bronzie

>>136043080

It's bad for the game. having a fucking 95% pick rate, it needed to be culled.

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this shit better work this time

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>>136043217
What did YOU DO?

>>136043209
>its the "lets turn everything to shit and provide zero alternatives so people are now forced to eat shit" part

>>136043217
[screams internally]

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>>136043217
going too fast, slow down there

>>136043320

>our most damaging burst characters should just have an easy get out of jail free card cuz all the pros take it

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>>136043217
U world Is upside DOWN!

>>136043320
>bolt cucks on suicide watch

>>136043320
>tfw illidan and thrall still have bolt

>>136042889
And what if i wan to kill my fucking useless team!?

SHOULD I PLAY ABATHUR INSTEAD?

>>136043209
An almost melee range caster needs some mobility and when you assume people took bolt because they are bad you are just shit. She needs some compensation for the loss, but there is no point in debating it with someone who has no idea what they are talking about

>>136043449

Probably not for long, and they are at least fucking actual melee characters, they've been talking for a while that they wanted to get rid of bolt and now they're actually doing it. Unlike Riot with fucking Flash, better not upset the fanbase or they might throw a fit for a day or actually think about which summoner skills to pick.

>>136043407

she has less burst than li ming less range and mobility as well

>>136043407
>>136043442
>nom-nom, this shit sure tastes good, thanks, browder, can i have some of your delicious semen for dessert?

>>136043531
Play sylvanas. Then walk the enemy ETC into your backline.

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>>136043449
>136043449
Buttcher too.

>>136043532
>An almost melee range caster

Will you idiots stop, she's not "almost melee range"

only 1 of her skils is "almost" malee range and that's cone of cold.

>>136043750
Blizzard too without the upgrade

>>136043687

Nah, I'm just glad to see that shit get actually removed from the game like it should. You know Jaina is eventually gonna get something to make up for it if it ends up not being good enough, so.

>>136043727
>It wears off while he's surrounded.
>Mosh Pit.

It's perfect.

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>>136040881
One of these days, Blizzard will remember him.

>>136043784

Not really

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VALLA A CUTE!

>>136043731
butcher would make a very respectable chef if it weren't for his whole 'kill everything and everyone' mentality

>>136043992
Yes the range on blizzard without the upgrade is about the range of coc

>>136043648
Jesus Christ, League still has flash? I left back in S3 because of the endless retarded design decisions. At least it only takes blizz a year to fix their retarded decisions.

Sylvanas's new heroic is extremely strong.

>>136044297
Well flash is on a 5 min cd, a bunch of characters still have their 70 second bolt in hots

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Malfurion still boring?

>>136044421
The time scales in League and hots are very different. 5 minutes in League is much less than 5 minutes in hots. Plus, flash is available from level 1, while bolt is an endgame talent.

Dehaka game play

https://youtu.be/QLcw2ylGSBI

>>136044539
Getting someone to blow flash is a big deal, and generally sets them up to be ganked. 70 seconds is basically one team fight in hots and it's not as important. Time still works the same in both games

>>136044485
I'm hope blizz change their view for support.
Like you can talent Mafl into assassin if you want.

>>136043731
>Jaina/Raynor
>not Li Meme and Chen
trash

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This rise of shitty Banshee Queens is upon us.

This build is so fucking awful.

GUYS I NEED 2 WINDRUNNERS, 1 FOR SHIT DMG AND ONE FOR ESCAPE. JK, CASTED TWICE FOR EXTRA DAMAGE.

Seriously, this guy complained that we weren't team fighting correctly when he was just running through fog of war getting killed by Nova/Zera and then he doesn't get blink either. Then you're going to cry about teamfights when you didn't even get the vulnerability.

How much more useless can a character/player combo be?

>>136040950
she definely feels a lot weaker on the ptr but that could be because a lot of other heroes feel so much stronger after their buff

no doubt this will really hurt her but i'm sure she will get a bunch of buffs a month or so later hopefully with reducing her cds on blizzard and coc and buffing ice barrier to not be complete shit increase the barrier amount you get from damage and the duration of the shield

but she doesn't feel fine but that could be she is just up against strong heroes while not being in the same tier we will see how it plays out on live

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>tfw no arthas rework/buffs
ded

>>136045013
Double windrunner is now the only offensive talent at lvl 13 on PTR.
Enjoy seeing alot more of it, anon.

>>136045558
im gonna miss my safe direction E -> Bolt -> Hold Q -> Vuln. Dagger -> Silence -> Envenom -> E back to safety combo.

Where the FUCK is Arthas update?

He was a literal legend that's even more powerful than Superman!

>>136045549
Arthas + Tychus
You can thank me later

>>136045558
>splinter shot got removed

and i didn't even notice it at first

holy fuck why.

>>136045752
>>136045549

He's probably next, they said a bit ago they're looking into him. Honestly the other people who got reworks and shit this patch needed them more than Arthas did.

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>>136045761

>>136045875

I think he's saying that Arthas's root and slows combined with the new and improved Tychus are going to be godlike.

Played 2 PTR games

Slyvanas' Mind Control is just plain broken, even in the most retard of teams it's a guaranteed, especially at 20, surprised this passed dev test matches.
Tychus still has engagement issues but lots of cool talents there.
Dehaka is neat.jpg
Kael'thas is strong as hell.

>>136045975
Just stun her

>>136045975
it's a guaranteed kill*

Can't do shit against it

>>136046108
can't you just cleanse it?

>>136046195
No idea but at lvl 20, if you don't see it coming, it'll be too late. 100%+ speed is bonkers.

>>136046195
>>136046265
Yes, you can cleanse it and stun sylv out of it. you can also just kinda kill her.

>>136046389

Can you use your abilities while mind controlled? Cuz her grabbing anyone with an escape or a stasis ability or a stun could actually put her and her team in a lot of danger in a lot of danger.

>>136046512
No, it's basically targeted Stitches pull.

>>136045795
Way to reveal that you're a bronzie

>>136045975
MC basically double suicidal 2,5s stuns for both Slyvanas and victim. It can go both way.

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I hope we get loads more slutty cosplay skins

>>136045975
>I spent 20 minutes playing the game
>here is my review of balance

Kill yourself my man

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uuhhhh what?

>>136048021
It does that when transitioning to the loading screen now.

my ptr experience
>sylva pull is shit
>kt bombs are annoying but completely neglected if you have a healer like brightwing reghar or morales.
>tychus is strong
>dehaka is fun.
>new draft screen and death recaps make me feel like we are finally out of beta.

>>136044485

I started enjoying him more when I started taking the slow on moonfire and found my D.

Though it comes later in the game a long range(w/elunes grace) slow that's near impossible to miss makes his kit feel complete and makes it so moonfire just isn't a mana eating filler ability.

He's really fun with Xul too thanks to chain root combos.

>>136048319
why they removed ability to double bomb someone with my bro KT, who cares about instant bomb spread

>>136045013
>People testing bulids on the test realm.

Oh no!

>>136048476
they just dumbed him down for general audience.

>>136048549

DWW took skill.

>>136048693
DWEQWR took more skill than current kt

>>136048529
That's a build from the live game, not PTR. You can tell because the retard got SPLINTER SHOT

>>136048956
shut up bronzie, splinter shot is completely viable.

How does Dehaka's tongue work?
Does the grip stay even if he's stunned/knocked back?

>>136044769
Chen is busy being drunk and sexually molesting his niece

>>136051380
>Li Li isn't pure
stop this meme

>>136051481
it's her own fault for traveling with an old drunkard on a long and lonely journey

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tmw your target is down to less than 1% HP and outruns you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCmMbohXn6o

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>>136052215
tfw your Ching Chong Ming could've got the kill but decided to get Wave Push against a team with no channeled abilities because she claimed standing still is bad.

>Cho Gall week
guess who is not playing this week

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>>136048405
>I started enjoying him more when I started taking the slow on moonfire and found my D.
>found my D.

ehehehehe

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how do i build Diablo guise?
i want to tank shit out of everything

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xth for "You sure a good at murder!"

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>>136055287

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Nova is fun!
How do I git gud with her though?

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>>136055213
>i want to tank shit out of everything
Maybe there are tanky builds for diablo, but anytime I see anyone do anything that isn't pure firestomp they end up losing unless they get carried hard.
Even with the few talents you put into soulstone Diablo is still pretty untanky as far as tanks go. I've seen Arthas tank harder than Diablo.
You're best bet is to act like a bruiser in teamfights and to gank everyone.

>>136056275
As long as you land every single one of your q's, snipe master is a really fun build.
Tanks can't even handle the 1k damage every 3 seconds.
Triple tap is for qm stomps but it's shit against any team that knows what it's doing
Don't just use precision strike to kill people running away, though. I see shitters pass up a good opportunity to catch 3-4 people in the strike just so they can waste it by blind firing it into the fog of war hoping to get a kill.

>>136057150
so full firestomp faggotry i guess. thanks anyway anon

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>>136057150
my thanks kind anon. Have a Hammer.

>>136050568
Mucus. it's super sticky
related note, how should I be playing Dehaka?
I had one really good match with him last night but the 3 matches afterwards I got stomped left and right.

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>>136057846
there is a distinct lack of hammer and sonya r34

>>136058794
>that Jo face
almost thought it was InCase art

>PTR graphic spazz out still not fixed

THANKS FOR NOTHING BLIZZARD

>>136059078
do you by any chance have an AMD?

>>136058794
>HALT!

>>136044648
If you call that gameplay

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anyone played hots on acid? if so, how was it?

>>136060860
NVidia GTX 970

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Dehaka a shit
Tracer when?

>>136062656
I haven't but many of my teammates do

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>>136063426
>someone on your team dies
>"lol im drunk"

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>>136064273

>"brb smoking a bowl"

>>136064273
Why does someone playing games drunk upset you so, anon?

can some1 post a webm how the new mind control works

ima too lazy for ptr madness

>>136064865

Why does someone driving drunk upset you?

>>136065230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cuu84A8NEw

>>136065524
I dont risk human lives when I play QM after a few beers

>>136065531
what is she saying

"ala ninja"

>>136064865
because he's playing those games with me.
if he finds 4 other people so they can all get drunk and play that's completely fine. but he didn't do that, he's such a fucking failure in life that he can't even find people who tolerate him when they're drunk.

>>136065661
it's the Lament of the Highbourne

>>136065650

I'm sure someone has offed themselves because their team was drunk/high.

>>136065531
>its a channeling spell

into trash it goes

>>136065661
la li lu le lo

>>136065661
it's the beginning of "lament of the highborne"

Brightwing or tyrande?

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Why are Illidan players the absolute worst? Ever since I got into the Alpha back in 2014, Illidan players have always been annoying douchebags.

On the PTR every Illidan player is a raging cunt, and it reminds me that we're going to see a resurgence of them when the patch hits.

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>>136065938
comfy cookie goblin

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>there are people in this very thread right now who play non-human characters
>purge.jpg

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>>136066065
try me

>>136066001
MY HATRED IS UNENDING

>>136040847
I read that as meme sluts

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>>136066227
You'd be right there, too

>>136066034
>Tyrande will never sit on your face the way she sits on that pizza
>she will never hold your dick the way she holds that rice ball

>>136066227
I'm always a slut for memes

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>>136066169
Do I know you from somewhere? Some kind of northern area...hmm.

>>136066381
it's a hamburger you weeaboo

>>136066065
Well lets see, we have
>Humans (Terran)
>Undead
>Elves
>Demons
>Zerg
>Protoss
>pandas
>Worgen
>Orcs
> Dryads
>Ogres
> Murlocs
> Angels

Sounds like humans are prettttty outnumbered senpai

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k-kinky

Do you guys remember Riv?

How come Nazeebo deals so much damage? It's ridiculous. I top all stats every game past 15 minutes

so how's dehaka

>>136066715
>"STRIPES"
That kind of half-assedry on this crayon-colored picture really pisses me off.

>>136067123
He is a sustained damage dealer, he won't be your star carry, he just puts out constant damage

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>>136066715

>>136067264
Catching a squishy in your wall is almost a sure kill tho. Feels good man

>>136067205
Fun but probably on the weaker side

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I like Falstad but he is so squishy and I get focused literally every time I move anywhere by a horde of Novas and Illidans + Abby

I just instantly die, despite not standing out in front or exposed like a retard
and my teams literally never do anything but die either

>>136068196
wrong thread fellow Blizzdrone

>>136068015
Sounds like an issue of gitgud

Play safer, maybe pick some sustain talents as training wheels until you get the hang of it

>>136068301
Man, I guess everyone in that thread really is all about "muh golden days"

>>136068196
>still playing wow

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>>136068015
He's one of them heroes for me that just don't work out.
Like Li Ming, Uther or Leoric.
I know they're good. I know tourney-fags love them.
But I just can't enjoy playing them at all.

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>>136054884
It's fucking hilarious, I've just had two wins given to me thanks to Cho'Galls. Just look at this shit.

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>it's another "Leoric on Infernal Shrines" episode

40 regen globes. FORTY. feels so good.

>>136068747
Played him 6 times and every time It's been a loss.
I'm just being singled out constantly and I also get pointless comps like Gazlowe / Murky / Arthas / Tassadar and me as Falstad.

I just cant win

>>136068948

40 is what you should have on every map except for battlefield

>>136069176
but on other maps it isn't as piss easy.

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>>136068948
>it's another Leoric just runs into 5 enemies and dies episode

>>136066381
It's a jelly donut, anon.

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>>136069821
>it's another "Cho has no idea how strong he can be and spends all game pussyfooting outside of enemy range" episode

>>136070184
>it's a Cho keeps blocking at the exact second Gall ults and they start arguing about it in chat
Blizzard really nailed the ogre aesthetic with him

Mind Control is Sylvanas' Pyroblast but it requires a good team AND a good position, instead of just the latter.

>>136070291

Every time our kaelthas picks Pyroblast they target someone like murky or Muradin

Hate that spell

>>136070291
>mind control someone being targeted by pyroblast
>run them into teammates
Haha, time for memes

How do you play a good li ming?

http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/75-dehaka?filter-ptr=1#MZ8YHZ0YCZ5Y/YLBA

Probably the best Dehaka build I've found so far. Dehaka is a crap main tank and is more like a bruiser ganker, so focusing on him getting kills is really good. Talents at 13, 16 and 20 are more changeable depending on the map and how much damage I'm taking. I can't decide if I like 20% longer range on his q or the 50% slow more.

So for the PTR guys.
How is dehaka? Or is everyone trying the reworked heroes instead?

>>136070703
Pretend like you're playing dodgeball and trying to hit the nerds instead of the jocks, minions, tanks and shit are jocks.

also this build
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/li-ming#l2bD

I have no idea what build to go on illidan anymore. He has so many choices now.

>>136070915
>Pretend like you're playing dodgeball
LEAGUE OF DRAAAAVEN
When will we get some actually fun skillshots in this game?

>>136070998
Same with Tychus, fucking build diversity making me thing.

>>136070839
I'm >>136070838

Generally I think Dehaka is okay - he needs number adjustments on things and he's a little on the squishier side for a warrior, even if you go full tank build with him. I prefer playing him as a ganking bruiser character who q's people out of position and gets a pick off that way. My build with him allows him to do decent damage while also chasing down injured/squishy targets, and so far it's worked the best for me. I'm not sure what his optimal build is but so far I've had the most fun and success with that one.

Definitely not an OP character though, but I can see him in a gank/roam oriented comp provided he isn't the only warrior.

>>136070998
>>136071210
>I actually have to try things out myself and enjoy new experiences instead of going with the tried and true
Yeah, fuck Blizzard!

>>136071130
Only straight line skill shots for hots, players wouldn't understand anything else.

>>136070915
I lol'd but anon are there any tips for how I should be moving around the map?
My team blamed me for our loss but I had the least deaths, I didn't top the dmg scoreboard though.
How do I git gud

>>136071210
think*
>>136071319
Choices are for faggots, that's why they choose to be gay.

So what are the odds we get anything today? I wanna play Dehaka so badly.

>>136071369
>How do I git gud
Map awareness
That's really your first step in any moba.
I had over 1000 games in league and dota but for some reason I have a lot more trouble with map awareness in HotS
That minimap frustrates the fuck out of me sometimes.

>>136071458
That's next week, play the PTR.

>>136071458
Nothing for live today, you can go play him on the PTR though.

Hope Tyrael gets updated soon. He's great fun and fairly balanced but he's in bad need of build diversity. Half his talent tiers there's only one real option and on the others you only get to choose between two things really.

Also most of the talents you pick are tank baseline and in no way unique to him.

>Dehaka
>Mana:500 (+0/LVL)
>Mana Regen:3(+0/LVL)
???

>>136071634
heroesnexus is shit, news at 11.

How are you supposed to play Chogall when Tychus becomes a percentage dealing killing machine next patch?

>>136071859
Just stun him.

>>136071859
You don't.

>>136071859
>One more hard-counter to cho-gall

There's like, 3 heroes that can even sorta counter cho-gall and they have to take a specific talent. The only Hero that can activly hard-counter cho'gall is Anub, and he's a shit hero.

JAINA


Bolt of the Storm (Talent) removed
Improved Ice Block (Talent) moved from Level 13 to Level 20

>>136072723
Some people where still picking her over Leming.
Can't have that

>>136071612
Next PTR should be the big warrior revamp tbqh

>Tyrael
>Arthas
>Anub
>Rexxar
>Artanis

>>136071458
They already said the patch is 29th

I've never used the PTR before, so when i logged in I got all these things like my alpha portrait and chogall and the like, and every hero i "own" is level 1. So...if I want to play Dehaka I have to buy him with money? Do i get that money back or is he auto-unlocked on my main account when PTR is finished?

>>136072723
People were still playing Jaina, that was unacceptable.

>>136073132
The latter.
anything you buy on PTR for real money is added to your live account when the patch hits

>>136072723
This only hardens my blizzard build dick.

>>136073132
You have to buy him with money and you get the hero on live servers when the patch hits

Obviously another ploy to get people spending real money

>>136072723
this kills the burst meta

>>136041915
So like Dominion from LoL

>Add a new map
>Make it lobby only

Nice use of resources

>>136073290
m-maybe now using icy veins + wintermute will be acceptable

>>136073657

Nah because they put your only defensive thing at 20 so you can't use anything else at that level, sorry

>>136073607
Players in wouldn't understand a map with no announcers telling them what to do.

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>>136073607
I have almost 3k games played, cant say more than 1 of them were a custom game; and I only played that 1 custom game due to helping a friend take footage for a youtube video.
I can honestly say I'll never play that new map ever.
>mfw I read that they even wasted time and effort on making it in the first place

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>>136073282
>>136073337
Sweet. Bought the Dehaka bundle.

>>136073972
good goy

i probably will too

>>136071859
That's why Cho'Gall is free this week so everyone can try it while it's still decent

>>136073961
>>136073607
>Doesn't love ARAM
Plebs.

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Can you play Muslim with the new Sylvanas ult and Living Bomb?

>>136073607

Chances are you'll be able to queue for it eventually, probably with the addition to Arena™ mode.

Doubt it'll just be mixed into Quick Match, or Ranked.

>>136043008
Sad.... no one got that but me

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It's slowly coming back why I left hots, soloqueue is trying so hard to keep you at 50% winrate matching you with massive retards who have no fucking clue what's going on. One last try or it's going to trash again.

>>136075494
You're not, it was just retarded

>>136075351
Probably not with Arena since that adds random pick and has it's own objectives.

Maybe they'll make a few more ARAM maps and add an official ARAM mode. LC is just a trial map like they said.


>>136075494
People got that, it's just not very funny.

>>136075551
Seems like a pretty close game tbqh family

>>136040739
Why dont we have a discord server? I need instant always on access to memes and shitposting

>my team starts a fight 4v5 against enemy team
>two of them die and they start running away
>find my way over there
>devouring maw the whole enemy team
>roll the banelings in
>quad kill
I love Zagara

>>136075551
>he didn't even top dmg as diablo

trash

>>136076007

I can make one really quick

>>136076684

Done, permanent invite link is https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN

What do you guys think of this build?

http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/9-tychus?filter-ptr=1#kY_GaYLCiHRYAHJAA

Specifically, yay or nay on the 40% or more HP damage buff talent?

>Cursed hollow
>Everyone in my team is playing like shit, myself included
>We get cursed twice
>No forts left, we are spread wide open and lubed up
>Somehow manage to get the 3rd tribute and our first curse
>Steamroll to victory from there

Another day in bronzieland

Can it be? Are Gazlowe and Tycus...viable now?

Gazlowe confuses me. I'm so used to his only build that these changes have thrown me for a loop. What do I pick now?

>>136077295
Whatever the situation calls for!
Blizzard is supporting DIVERSITY like the tumblr shits they are.

>>136077295
still li ming greyman and sonya

>>136077431
>implying those won't be top bans

>>136077295
>Can it be? Are Gazlowe and Tycus...viable now?

I never even thought Gazlowe to be as trash as people made him out to be. He was incredibly bad at a bunch of things, but if you stuck to taking camps and making sick ult combos, you could definitely carry your weight in a match.

But yeah he seems a bit better overall now. Only played one match with him.

>>136077431
We get 2 bans for each team just for that reason

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>Sylvy gets MC.

It's gonna be tough to make Anduin a proper dickass priest now.

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I've lost the last 11 games in a row

I'm never checking my MMR again for fear of how low it has dropped in the past 2 days

>>136077908
Nah, he can still get a shadowform ult on top of a healing one, which could be quite fun if they don't fuck it up

https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN

/vg/ Discord, get in this shit, I'll try to make it an early reply in every general if it doesn't make it into the op

>>136077950
>11 games
>2 days
GET THE FUCK OUT NORMIE

>>136077908
>Didn't exist in anything before WoW
He's not going to be added at all.

>>136078112
Oh neat, on top of a dead ingame chat, a dead thread and a dead game. We now also have a dead discord.

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>>136077494
my main issue with gazlowe has always been his relatively squishyness whilst being a melee hero, also unless you take full robo gobbo at 20 his melee attacks don't actually give you any reason to go in and do autos. So if you played at distance to stay safe you always did less damage than if you did all your actions plus auto attacks.
Grav bomb combo, turrets for zone control on objectives are good tools, he just always seemed really janky to play. Hard to explain I guess, I just always felt like I should be doing more

>>136078312
we just need a dead irc now

Gaz is completely broken now. Holy fuck this is retarded

>>136078312
There was even a priest character in WC3? I don't remember any (besides tyrande, but she wasn't that kind of priest)

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Place your bets

>>136078526
Nah just the high elf mooks

>>136077129
pls respond

>>136078526
Nelfs had priestess of the moon Hero wich is Tyrande.

Humans had a high elf priest unit so even if we get another priest it'll be an OC donut steal new guy.

>>136078706
Get titan grenade and go full memester

>>136079173
Sounds good.

Cho'gall and Diablo tears 2 sweet

How do I get Bikini Stitches again?

>>136079478
Isnt that the one that's linked with the plush?

How the fuck do I play Cho effectively?

>>136080343
Just don't play against the counters

>>136080343
Consuming Blaze should never be off cooldown unless you won't hit anything with it

>>136041186
FLAAAAK'SHIIIIIIIR

>>136079359
Is tychus good now?

>>136082261
almost op
but certainly good at least
such a tank-killer now

>>136082261
He seems pretty fucking good, he probably wont break the game like Rehgar did but he makes Raynor useless

>>136082490
>not playing jimmy and findlay together

>inb4 Blizzard sells special Hero Select animations during the Hero League draft pick screen

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>>136082698
>Blizzard's face when

>>136082673
>just like old times
Too bad stacking sustained damage doesn't seem that strong right now

>>136082698
Not gonna lie i would buy anub's taunt along side that fucking screech he does just to tell people "GET READY FOR SOME FUKK"

>>136082698
Well it's not like they are getting new players so they need to add something for people who have already bought everything like good goys

>>136082941
Does Dehaka have high health? I can't ptr to look, if so the dream can still be alive

>>136083096
now that i think about it, having an anub animation where he shakes his shell, spikes shoot up and around, then he says "kinky"

would be pretty epic, i'd pay for it

>>136066001
DELETE THIS

>>136066001
>On the PTR every Illidan player is a raging cunt, and it reminds me that we're going to see a resurgence of them when the patch hits.

i'm guessing these are the main ones

1. hero suffers from severe melee assassin syndrome: you can't do shit if your team isn't 100% behind your actions. this leads to you being upset at your team because even if you find good openings, you'll die if you go for them since your team won't be there to support you most of the time

2. hero has abilities that reward aggressiveness. cooldown reduction from right clicks and hunt being insane range basically beg you to be fighting constantly, and inevitably you'll die a lot because you'll be going in alone a lot

3. it's an edgelord hero that is also an assassin

>>136083990
Well at least we'll have a change from all those cunts playing old KT and now Li-Ming

There will always be cancer faggot heroes but Illidan at least feels more counterable

>>136066001
feel the fury of 10000 years faggot

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Which one is a bigger slut?

>>136084514
Jaina, Rylai only puts out for Sven

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>>136066001
YOU ARRE NOT PREPARE!

>>136084514
why is jainas head so small

>>136084514
The one on the right,

>>136084514
Pre/Beginning of War 3(Which is what she's based on in HotS): CM, that Jaina is P U R E
Current WoW: Jaina by a lot.

>>136084514
Well Jaina is not a slut so I guess the other one.

>>136084794
It just looks small with the large shoulder pads.

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>>136084593
>Sven
>dicking anything
There are two reasons you take up a giant sword and go on the road.
1.) You get cucked.
2.) You get cucked hard

>>136066001
they always feed and always flame while feeding, blaming the team

fucking edgelord 12 yos

>>136085332
idk about you but if i got cucked the first thing i would want to do is plow some maiden who was raised in the arctic isolated from all other men except some drunk walrus

>>136072016
greymane can 1v1 (2) chogall when he gets lvl 16, easily

>>136068747
Tfw her hips don't start in the middle of her ribcage

Good work. She actually looks like a human

>>136080343
play him like a specialist, and during draft, ask for a real tank who has cc. Chos biggest problem is getting stunned and busted on the front line. You want to dance around the range of gal's spells. 90% of the time save your dash fist for escape. Only use offensively if you can secure a kill and have the hammer ult ready. Also, try and bait people with molten. They will dive a cho hard if you have less than 20% HP, and if your team is behind you then grab some kills. Come out swinging once the invincibility wears off

So can someone sum up how the balance of the reworks are? Are all 5 going to be godly? Are any dogshit now? I was going to test the PTR but i'd have to download like 10 gb's and I have shit internet.

>>136087903
Kerigan is way too OP now after those massive changes

>>136083318

He has probably mid tier health and high tier self sustain. He's not a solo tank, more of a Anub or Artanis tier tank.

>>136087903
so far illidan and tychus are hilarious
gazlowe is goofy and actually pretty strong in certain situations
sylvanas's ult is actually pretty ok, mostly depends on map so far it seems but then you have a glorified ranged creep in between ults
kael is fucking 10/10 at 20 if you have any control on your team at all, still not li ming until then
jaina still isn't li ming

>>136083318
He has pretty high health, yeah. More than leoric, for sure. I think he's around Chen.

>>136085223
Which leads us to another question, why the fuck does a mage have huge shoulderpads?

>>136088510
Everyone has large shoulderpads in wow

>>136087903

Kerrigan still shit
Brightwing still shit
Tychus good
Illidan good
Gazlowe finally good
Jaina fucked
Butcher slightly buffed slaughter ult

P much it, every other change was slight at best or rewording of existing talents.

>>136083318
His sustain is crazy if you spec for it.
At 20 you can facetank with the healing ult and burrow before death then come back with a full health bar and that's not even counting your talents healing.
At 50 stacks you get a full heal.

>>136087903
>>136088015
>an increase of nine (9) to her ultralisk's attack damage
what are they smoking?

>>136088963
it's a "we don't really want to buff the skill but want people to remember it exists" buff

>chogall on free week
holy ass shit
twice I get laned with this faggot
who counters this cancer?

>>136089095
Tychus on the ptr

>>136089095
literally anyone with giant killer

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>>136089095

>>136089220
and on live?

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Why is she so perfect?

>>136089321
Warrior - Leoric

Assassin - Raynor (Valla late game with BloodforBlood) anyone with GK

Support - Kha (with SSS ult, but only if you're double support-ing)

Specialist - no one, really, Zag maybe with maw but that just keeps him locked down for a bit

>>136089095
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/wiki/talents/call-of-the-grave

>>136089321

Raynor
Hammer
Leoric
Xul
Tychus (AA build only)
Valla
Illidan
Artanis
Sonya
Greymane

Anyone with attacks that do %HP, so basically all auto-attack heroes and several more in the coming patch.

>>136089490
anub can web him and gg team

stitches can hook him and gorge him

>>136088510
>>136088629
In warcraft, your entire identity is tied to the size and shape of your shoulder pads

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>>136089786
>your entire identity is tied to the size and shape of your shoulder pads
>you can hide your shoulders in legion

>>136089932
That's pretty symbolic desu since player characters don't actually exist other than being faceless mooks to further the agenda of Thrall or Jaina

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>>136090093
>jaina
>not khadgar
nigga you just went full retard

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post your shame

>PTR graphics bug STILL NOT FIXED

FUCK
OFF
BLIZZARD

>>136090205

>losing to bots

I too have felt this shame. Had actual idiots on my ta feeding the whole game to adept bots, was something like 5-36 by the end of it. It was unreal.

>>136090194
next mage is khadgar or i riot.

>>136090194
>wod
I actually forgot about him in that,
I've actually forgotten about most of wod

Bolt of the Storm (Talent) removed
Improved Ice Block (Talent) moved from Level 13 to Level 20

Cooldown reduced from 60 to 20 seconds
Duration reduced from 3 to 2.5 seconds

RIP Jaina, now Metzen just has to finish you off in Legion.

>>136090385
did you seriously forgot the expansion with only 1 content patch in two years anon?!

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hots cancelled due to lead dev battling cancer

>>136090476
forget isn't the word as much as willfull tuning out

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>>136089095

>>136090476
>>136090658
SELFIE
PATCH

>>136090583
Is he actually?

He looks so much better with beard + hair so that's a weird change in style.

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>>136090583
>i will remember you starts playing

Why do they keep nerfing non-OP characters? Butcher was fine and now he had a 30 second longer CD on his ult on top of it being cleansable.

>Mind Control
Inb4 entire episode of WTFHOTS moments around this one talent.

>>136090917
MORE IMPACTFUL

>>136090754
No, he's fine apart from his constant ear infections.

how meme will QM be after PTR hits

>>136091007
but anon, think of the memes. the memes!

>>136090917
because you're not supposed to play heroes Blizzard doesn't like. I do anyway because Anub'Arak and Butcher are fun to play.

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>>136091007
>Watching shit