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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final main site
http://megaten4f.jp/

>Information about Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D (embed)

>How to avoid spoilers
http://pastebin.com/LMEedWHf (embed)

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png (embed)

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8 (embed)

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n (embed)

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU (embed)

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d (embed)

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf (embed)

>Previous Thread
>>135601738
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Fuck you.
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The cycle continues.
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>page 10
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>>135968923
i did not expect this
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Finally resuming my SMT trip with the Raidou games.
Any tips for the first one beyond what's listed in the pastebin?
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>>135972186
Raidou 1 is pretty fucking easy, you can do whatever.
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>>135975131
The only thing that's sorta bugging me is that there's a lot of hidden items I can't see at all because the "shine" is hidden behind something else. So I end up pixel hunting all over a room and coming up empty, even though a guide I checked is listing more items in that area.
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>>135971592
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>>135968923
All I can read in that screen is "SPAIN"
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In Strange Journey, does the EX Mission "Escape Plan" have multiple possible outcomes?
I checked the wiki and it says that the characters involved reach the Red Sprite safely after the mission's completion, but I just finished it and I'm pretty sure all but one of them died.
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>>135977412
Is that the one in Bootes where you have to lead a strike team through the one-way door maze?

I'm pretty sure that nobody dies if you choose the correct path each time. I had the area mapped already so I didn't make any mistakes
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Is there a better SMT image than this?
I think not!
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>>135977412
Every mistake means someone gets it.

I say let them die.
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>>135976692
>>135976279
>>135971592
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Devil Summoner when ?
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>>135983171
WIP, unless you mean a new version like pic related
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>>135983623
>like your pic*
Fugg
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Does anyone have the MIDI ost to the super famicom SMT?
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How long is Soul Hackers to beat? I'm around five hours into the game, what should I expect
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>>135984842
Main Story
31 Hours

Main + Extras
40 Hours

Completionist
51 Hours
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>>135984842
Took me around 23 hours on normal difficulty.
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If I'm in Blasted Tokyo, does that mean I fucked up and am now on the Law Route or something?
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>>135986408
Nah, you're fine.
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>>135986408
No. You always have to go once through Blasted/Infernal Tokyo.
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what if
SMT 1 fan remake
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>>135986490
>>135986572
Ohh, alright. People kept talking about the wrath of God causing it so I got really worried. Thanks.
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>>135986408
When you finish Blasted Tokyo you go to Infernal Tokyo. When you finish Infernal Tokyo you get alignment-locked.
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>>135986875
Cool, guess I don't have a whole lot of the game left in that case.
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>>135986780
RPGツクールVX版 真・女神転生1
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I just killed king frost in II, I feel good but I need more money.
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>>135988829
It would be the best version if it didn't crash so often.
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>>135988829
I wish they did one for Megami Tensei II.
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>>135986780
Let's be honest, it will end as shin meme tensei

Or shin waifu tensei with threesome fusion and phone number notebook instead of compendium.
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Any tips?
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>>135996838
Save a lot if I remember correctly its easy to put yourself in a bad spot. Like there is a tough boss you ain't got the right damage type.
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>>135986387
Holy shit. Do you people just run from dungeon to dungeon and use guides?

In almost every game, I always have 10 extra hours in comparison to what other people post in this general.
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enjoying the life as a samurai my ass, must challenge quests are a fucking bore
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>>135649229
Hikaru: A cheerful young woman who wears a schoolgirl outift. She makes a good impression on Jonathan and Walter, but not Isabeau. She visits Cafe Florida often. She is actually Lucifer. And she waits for an opportunity to exact revenge on the other angels. She is fully revived when the gate to the Expanse is opened by Flynn. According to Doi, she is one of the most mysterious figures in the game. She looks normal at a glance, but her personality and appearance clashes with the presentation of Tokyo in the game. He just wanted her to look like a cute high school girl and didn't use a model. Her hair isn't dyed and she wears no makeup. Yamai recommended that he model her uniform after a famous private school for girls. He feels that makes her more eerie and it wouldn't be the same if she was just cosplaying some anime character. Her jacket has the symbol of Venus on it as a hint that she is Lucifer. He did his best to keep her poses a bit more realistic and not anime-esque to keep with the realistic theme.
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>>136001898
Kiyoharu: He lives in one possible future where Tokyo was turned barren from nuclear warfare. He prays to his handmade alter for a messiah. While he is eccentric, he used to be a promising student at a famous private school. When the demons showed up he joined the CDF. Like most, Kiyoharu was not chosen by god, but he still has faith. Other people view Kiyoharu critically, and he's felt guilty the past 25 years. Time has withered his body and left no trace of the vitality he used to have. People who weren't alive before the nukes dropped see him as a key figure from the war and give him space. Flynn's party grants his wish of saving humanity. Doi says he is a typical law character and that Kiyoharu is a failed hero. The blue robe and cape are there to make him look like a religious saint, while his face and hair hint at his poor health. The crosses on his body are to show he is a man of faith and they're also supposed to ward off demons. It's a sign that he's lost a bit of his sanity. Pluto's poison is the primary cause of his current state, and he should not look as old as he does in his 40s. In Doi's mind, Kiyoharu was once like Jonathan. His face is somewhat ghastly and his importance was conveyed by his dialogue rather than his appearance.
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>>136003827
Akira: The human Akira lives in Blasted Tokyo and is a reliable leader that supports Kiyoharu. His world is one unthreatened by demons, but since he desires to restore humanity and destroy Pluto, even if this means he must rely on demons. Demonoid Akira resides on Infernal Tokyo. His form is the result of seeking power and despite being the boss of Kasumigaseki, the major powers in Tokyo do not view him as a threat. He longs to defeat Kenji and create a safe and equal society in Tokyo. Both versions of Akira are destined to found Mikado, and both experience the loss of an older sister to the angels. Even in the original timeline, a boy named Akira lives and waits for the return of his sister. The Blasted version of Akira covers up as much skin as possible to protect against the poison. His design was modeled after some unnamed NPC sprites. He is essentially imprisoned underground and so you can see stripe patterns on his sleeves. Demonoid Akira is supposed to look primitive. His design is inspired by images of ancient tribes painting themselves in white and burning demon-warding talismans to drive away spirits. Both versions have the same eyebrows and scar because Doi wanted it to be clear that they're the same person. He gave them different expressions to convey the different lives they lived. Doi says he is a natural-born leader that does not succumb to grief and that he hopes to draw King Aquila sometime.
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>Lucked out and got the first Raidou for $20 new

What am I in for?
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>>135991873
>>135988829

I'm crawling desperately through badly translated Japanese websites looking for a download link.

Can any anon help me?
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>>136006834
A video game.
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>>136006834
An easy but stylish videogame.
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>>136006197
>he hopes to draw King Aquila sometime
At this point I'm curious what the original Akira from Tokyo, who was partners with Tsugi and Fujiwara would have looked like. It was a shame we didn't get to see him at all in FINAL, but I guess it'd be somewhat similar to Blasted Akira just by virtue of his age and being a normal human.
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I want to play VR video games with Sera.
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>>136006834
Good shit.
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is Kuzuryu the strongest thing in SMT II?

i mean you fight a single head as a lvl 80 boss
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>>136013312
Dog in makeup is cute
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Does Devil Survivor 2: Record Breakers combat play out faster than Overclocked?
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>>135969737
This is literally my first reaction upon seeing pooinlooflynn.

>can fuse himself into an unconscious/unwilling host
>still get his ass handed to nanashi despite nanashi not even (directly) borrowing daguza's power

that make a lot of sense
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>>136014030
Nope
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>page 10 again
>no one here to bump
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>>136016695
There isn't much to say, hee ho.
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>>136016695
You bumped wrong
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>>136017128
I think you've officially reached the threshold where forcing that shit has gotten unfunny.
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>>136017501
>forcing that shit
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>>136018447
>Telling someone to post it isn't forcing
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>>135986408
No, Mad Max Tokyo means that you are okay. If you see Johnathan and Gabriel after rejecting the White in the Monochrome Forest later on, that's when you are screwed into Law route.
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>>136007447
I want Sera to write me into her colorful hair fanfictions.
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>>136018632
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>>136018632
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>>136018760
Lewd fanfiction?
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>>136019536
HEAT fanfiction
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>>136006834
How did you luck out exactly?
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>>136019536
So autism?
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>>136020843
Sera isn't autistic.
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>>135996838
Grind, and enjoy the tunes. Don't be afraid to use a guide; if you miss any key items or lose sequence you can get boned.
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>Imagine JP servers finally shutting down.
Man, so close to a ten year run and it still lasted far longer than I expected.

Anyone here planning anything at the end?
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>>136024086
I will be listening to Seth Universe Battle theme and the sad Ogura boss theme.
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>>136025553
>Ogura
I meant Kuroe
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So was Yuzu a lesbian?
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>>136025553
While playing, or just in memoriam?
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>>136026309
Not once the demons get her.
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>>136027932
In memory.
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>>136021071
Fanfiction is though.
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>>136019128
Posting her the third time in an hour just proves his point desu.
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>>136020257
Game store near my place was about to ship off all of their ps2 stock a few states over since the owner is leaving. I bought Raidou for $20 and got a shitload of vidya for about a third of what he was selling them for.
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When are we gonna get one of these for Final?
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>>136031863
Well, SMT IV got that one a good 2 years after releasing in the US. So probably never.
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>>135990583
Hee Ho-lytown was thawed!
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There aren't any skills/mantras that increase the amount of EXP you gain from battles in DDS2, right? Also tips for Shiva, Vishnu, Seth, and Satan would be appreciated
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>>136035607
Did nothing wrong.
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>>136024086
>Finally heard of a online smt game
>It's shutting down soon
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>>136036875
I'm sure we'll get a proper Persona MMO after Persona 5 skyrockets the series to new heights.

Built in ERP systems are guaranteed.
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>>136036240
Reminder that the good prince is bad, BAD!
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Yo, I'm on my first IV playthrough and I feel like I'm over leveled as fuck.
Granted I did some autism grind for macca and app points in the DLC quests because I really wanted those demon fusing upgrades, since it's what I am really enjoying.

Any tips? I just captured the black samurai and so far everything seems like
>find weakness of any boss, or lack thereof
>blow it up in 2 turns

Also, fuck that overworld domain near shinjuku
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>>136037902
The game is mostly just easy after making it to Tokyo. You might be a bit overleveled though since I don't think you should be taking bosses out in two rounds.
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>>136037902
>DLC quests
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>>136038112
If my party doesn't get half raped because they get the first turn what I usually do is
>Concentrate +3
>Tarukaja or Rakunda x2
>Skip a turn
>Hit it with a buffed concentrated +8 spell
>Repeat

The only real difficulty I found so far is when they get the first attack and use Ma spells that hit a weakness but don't get negated in any way
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>>136039067
Sounds about right.
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I'm playing the Megaten remake on SNES and got got to the room before the first boss, is it normal that I can't see shit right before I meet him or is this an emulation issue?
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>>136042270
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so, in the law route how did they stop Great Abandon from swallowing everything ?
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>>136042518
It looks weird when you flip it. Like her neck is too long.
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>>136042518
I want to wake up with Ikuyo-chan in my face.
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>>136042739
I' guess when you pushed the button it worked like it was supposed to, swallowing only tokyo and the rest of the filthy world leaving Mikado intact. In the White ending you smashed the Yamato Reactor so it malfunctioned and destroyed everything.
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>>136006197
Stephen: A man in a wheelchair who appears before the protagonist. He seem speaks as if he knows many things. He is the developer of the demon summoning program and one of the few who knows about the divide in Tokyo. In a way, he is Burroughs' father. Stephen cares only about reuniting Tokyo and he is the one who explains that Flynn is the reincarnation of Tokyo's messiah. Doi says many players should recognize him from older games. He designed Stephen based on the one in Kazuma Kaneko Works III, and so the only real change is the wheelchair. He made sure not to put his own spin on the design so it wouldn't look like fanart. He paid attention to a bunch of things like hair volume, proportions, facial features, and the manner that he carries himself. He felt that by preserving such things his own touches were more subtle. The wheelchair was supposed to seem like a blend of modern and antique since Stephen is seemingly ageless.

>>136042739
I think it's because unlike the white ending it didn't malfunction.
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What is the type of hat Raidou wears? Thinking about dressing up as him for a local con and my googling is turning up nothing...
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It feels like there's some contradiction between the character description and Doi's own commentary this time. I don't know.

>>136043406
Burroughs: She is the AI partner inside every samurai's COMP, a part of the demon summoning program. She is familiar with Tokyo and guides samurai on aspects of the city. Her AI personality is honest, faithful, and good-natured. She engages in banter and jokes. Originally the program had her appear as a young woman, but when the ceiling was erected she took on the appearance of the goddess of Tokyo. Doi says she is often referred to as the game's heroine and that she is popular with the staff. He wasn't assigned to draw her until late in production, and he actually got stuck with it because he asked Ishida about it and no one had been assigned to her. The basis for her design is the goddess of Tokyo that appears at the end of the neutral route and says that this is because Stephen designed her in the goddess' image. He drew her like a silhouette with few details to distinguish her from non-digital characters.
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>>136044123
http://pastebin.com/Cx8V8905
Updated bin now that characters with portraits are done. I'll start posting about NPC sprites and armor sets soon.
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>>136043893
All I know is he wears a school uniform that's typical of the era.
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I don't understand how the eastern Kingdom of mikado Tokyo and the real world works, does the real world exist? is mikado only as big as Tokyo or the whole world? is Tokyo separated from the rest of the world? if mikado is more than 1500 years old is Tokyo that old too?
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>>136045137
Tokyo is separated from everywhere else by the dome, which Mikado rests on top of. The rest of the world does exist since America and other places get mentioned in Kasumigaseki and other places by NPCs. Time moves slower in Tokyo than in Mikado, but which place is like everywhere else, if one of them even is, is not said. I'd guess that time was slowed down in Tokyo by the dome or proximity to the reactor though.

As for why no one from Mikado has explored beyond the dome: ┐(ツ)┌
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>>136045332
>A Samurai says that he went down to Tokyo and came back not much later but everyone he knew had aged
>Nowhere else do you see anything like this
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>>136047482
Mikado does go through a restructure while you're gone in Tokyo as well. Stuff like that doesn't just happen over night.
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Does the neutral ending in IV really include more game time than the other routes?
I was going blind and aiming for law ending but missing "content" feels bad
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>>136048345
It's mostly just padded with sidequests. Otherwise it's one more boss/dungeon that you could go through on Chaos or Neutral. If you're really worried about it play on NG+. Law's a good route to do that on since it has no NG+ exclusive quests like Chaos does.
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>>136048609
>Law's a good route to do that on
To do first I mean.
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>>136048345
Neutral has you do both final dungeons and bosses while Law and Chaos only give you one. Neutral also forces you to do a lot of sidequests.
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>>136048609
>>136048704
Oh ok, thanks I'll keep aiming for that law end then.
What are the sidequests about tho? More deities fucking around I guess?
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>>136049148
A lot of them tie into myths while others are helping Tokyo in various ways, they're mostly not locked to certain alignments so long as you complete them early enough. Certain ones will affect your alignment.
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>>136049148
Make sure to get all the Law exclusive demons like Mastema. There aren't any NG+ Law Route demons, so doing Law first/second (after White) is a pretty good idea.
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I'm building my Flynn with Magic and Agility.

Am I doing it right?
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>>136049892
Yes.
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>>136049892
Literally the build I'm doing, am >>136039067
Have you been blowing up some demons too?
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Goodnight.
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Good morning, /smtg/!

Watcha going to play today?
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>>136051972
It's 2 am let me sleep.
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>>136052520
5:20 here.

Why sleep when you could be killimg god?
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>>136052682
God doesn't exist silly.
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>>136052720
Because we killed him.
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>>136052817
>we
Peacefaggots get out of my thread.
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>>136051972
10:30am, Yuropoor checkin in.
Maybe will play some Nocturne today.
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>>136051972
I II and IV
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>>136052897
It was the only way. I just can't trust a floating goblin's head, ya know?
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>>136053253
Peace ain't free. Enjoy your yellow man in the future, faggot.
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>>136053382
I'll kill him too. For peace.
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>>136053448
Kill him when you're old and decrepit? Why risk it when you can become god yourself? At least then when shit hits the fan it'll be your own doing.
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Hope we don't have any anons from Brussels here.
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>>136053582
Then I'll just kill myself, for peace.
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>>136053797
So that's how it is. Carry on then. You're alright.
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>>136053642
As do I.

Vegetable men scare me.
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>>136053872
Not a fan of Lawfags?
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with with
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>>136042506
That's part of the game. Get psyched cause there's a whole lot of rooms like that throughout the game. Use Mappara.
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>>136056465

Someone gives her some pants.

SMT1 version is lewder
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>>136056465
what demon is this?
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>>136056912
but bottomless is the best
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>>136057206
Why are you here if you don't play SMT games?
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>>136057301
because I love the games but they are not my kind of games so I just dwell here
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>>136057384
>I love the games but they are not my kind of games
What the fuck does this even mean? Fuck off.
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>>136057423
Now, now, anon-kun, you need to calm down.
You really shouldn't tell him to fuck off, what you're supposed to do here is telling him to kill himself.
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>>136057423
i like the characters the story the demons the mythology but I tried to play it and I'm just too shit for it
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>>136057614
If you can't even play the video games that this general is dedicated to you you shouldn't be here. I'd call you a fucking secondary but you're not even a fan from watching some shit anime or something. Seriously, get the fuck out.
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>>136057614
I suck at SMT games too, but they are all I play now and they still kick ass. Just grind and use guides. And don't start with Nocturne.
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>>136051972
About to sit down and play some more SMT4, I think. Wanna try and actually finish it today, hopefully.
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>>135998243
Late reply but, the only time I used a guide was for that stupid quiz thing in the Astro Museum. I also got stuck on fucking pic related. I did rush through some parts though, mainly at the end.

For comparison, it took me 50+ hours to finish Strange Journey.
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>>136059910
That quiz is obnoxious.
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>>136059910
>>136061021
>having trouble with the quiz
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>>136061021
It's ridiculous. And it's even worse because it's in the beginning of the game, so it probably ended up driving some people away from the game.

>>136061390
It's not a matter of being hard but of being stupid. It does nothing for the game. I'd rather explore a giant museum than answer some stupid questions that aren't even related to the game.
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>>136006875
First, download and install RPGツクールVX RTP:
http://tkool.jp/support/download/index

Here's the link to the game (Ver2.0 beta 7; click on the button "xxx.zipをダウンロードします。"):
http://www1.axfc.net/u/3487650?key=vxs1

Run 真1_20_beta with AppLocale and extract the game files.
Run Game.exe with AppLocale.
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>>136043893
Japanese Shako cap?
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>>136061662
How different is this one from the original?
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>>136061662

>rpgmaker

>Absolutely disgusting.jpg

Why would you ever do that?
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>>136063517
I got excited at first, then I realized what was going on.
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Anyone who has knowledge on how EPP is going, will we be able to transfer the Tsumi save file for the Tatsuya stuff?
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>>136064447
I'll guess that you can't transfer from a savefile of another region. So you'll probably have to get a JP save of IS to transfer.
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>>136063004
I haven't played it myself yet, but from what I've seen, a lot.

There are many new events and some locations are slightly modified. For example, in Inogashira Park there is an event where you can save a woman from Zombie Cop, and there is now a toilet in the small red building, where you can find Hanako-san as an optional boss.
You can choose your partner from the original Heroine, Yuriko, and new Law Heroine character. Also, when Thorman presses the button, you'll get teleported to different locations, depending on which heroine you pick.
More demons and NPCs. Nuff said.

>>136063517
Not every RPG Maker project is bad, anon. Also, nobody is forcing you to play it.
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>>136063517
>>136063924
>not knowing that there are good RPG maker games

>>136066716
Seems good. Guess I'll give it a spin one of these days.
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So, it's been a while since I've been posting on /smtg/. Has hoyposting died?
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>>136069014
There's still occasional hoyposting, the general itself is just a bit dead right now.
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>>136069014
Nah.

You sometimes see some hoys on other boards.
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>>136069268
>the general itself is just a bit dead right now.
Ah, I see. I kinda avoided /smtg/ for a while because of all FINAL spoilers and shit.. Slow /stmg/ is the best /smtg/.

>>136069443
Some of those whole be mine.
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>>136069621
>I kinda avoided /smtg/ for a while because of all FINAL spoilers and shit

I tried.

Gave in, in the end.
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>>136069014
Hoys are eternal, my friend
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>>136069775
Eh, I kinda gave up too. Came here to see how /smtg/ is and got bombarded by spoilers. I just hope ATLUS brings FINAL over.

>>136069881
>Not naming your hoypics
C'mon, fellow hoyposter. You need to name them.
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>>136070021
One day I'll name them all, I swear.
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>>136070204
Get on that soon, anon. Hoypics without custom names aren't the same thing.
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Tsubasa saves the thread from page 8
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>>136071394
>Worst girl from shit game
So your only use is bumping threads from fucking page 8?
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>>136071604
Don't bully Tsubasa
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>>136072614
Get lost.
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>>136063004
In addition to what has been said already: demons level, you can hack their COMP data for better skills (f.e. Bufu->Bufula), you actually use ammo (like in If...), that's all I can remember right now but I'm sure there's more.

>>136063517
Still better than the pile of shit that's the SNES version.
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>>136042270
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>>136044123
>heroine
As if wasn't already obvious that she was best girl.
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>>136073647
I think there was something about more than 3 routes but most of them weren't finished. Also much more waifufaggotry.
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s1KzLr2zNtku#
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>>136075071
shin meGAHmee tensay four

Also I was convinced that the H is silent. youtried/10
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>>136061662
Thanks for the response, sadly it's not letting me download the game itself. I even tried the direct download link rather than waiting 5 seconds but eventually I just end up back where I started.
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>>136076191
>sadly it's not letting me download the game itself
What do you mean? I downloaded it just fine when he posted it.
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>>136072840
No.
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>>136076191
I just tried again and it works. You need to click in these.
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>>136071394
Why this bitch always lookin like she got her eyes held open like Clockwork Orange
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Threadly reminder that Soul Hackers has the best MC design.
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is it even hinted in the game that Hikaru is Satan?
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How does he get chicks?
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>>136080056
>That bat on his ass
He doesn't.
He shines that Batsignal for Bruce Wayne to fuck him while keeping the dude in a judo hold.
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Hoy.
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is there an easy way to make money in II?
I'm having an hard time keeping everyone alive and it costs a lot to revive them
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Hoy again.
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>>136082493
>>136087086
Hoy hoy.
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>>136080056
He got one woman and it was Hallelujah's mom.

Inanna wouldn't even tap that ass. She will scam him for his wings though.
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>>136083094
Just go to the casino, win lots of coins in Keno and trade them for OP items; after that you don't even have to summon demons (and you can sell those prizes to earn some Macca). Or fuse a demon with (Sama)Recarm. You can also try asking demons to give you some Macca.
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>>135968923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehqa0--oMZo

>Smug Flynn in action
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoHmSj7Uv4Q

>LOW ending XD
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>>136080056
I think he scored with some chick from the Asura-Kai. I remember Shemyaza in IV being a random encounter with three Asura Kai Women at Kagome Tower
>>136088283
Isn't Inanna more interested in getting power than fucking beta males?
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>>136074575
More deadpan Tatsuya.
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>>136091848
She's also interested in making new humanity babies. Just not with betas.
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>>136089475
When does shesha pull off the facade?
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>>136092212
Why did we seal her off again?
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>Bath Towel
>Could it be a part of a carpet?

Mikado has no towels?
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>>136089384
i lost 1000 macca
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>>136061519
Isn't that quiz 100% optional?

I doubt some dumb quiz would genuinely make someone mad enough to drop the game.

Now lets rejoice and worship Mary, /smtg/'s true waifu.
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>>136094894
use save states the result will always be the same.
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>>136095754
It's not optional. And it truly is infuriating.
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>>136093548
They use rags.
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>>136069014
Actually, yes.

Now I only see hoys whenever someone asks if it's dead.
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>>136093548
Flynn thinks make up is sand despite Isabobo wearing eyeshadow.
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>>136075474
The devs say the real pronunciation of SMT all the time.

You would need to be american to get the pronunciation wrong.
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>>136096554
He's a Casualry. Not a Luxuror. He wasn't bred to think.
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>>136096806
The irony being Jonathan has literally no thoughts.
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>>136096896
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>>136096554
Isabeau uses old-fashioned Japanese style makeup, which I think is paint.
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>>136095814
but that's cheating

I did it
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>>136051972
DDS2.

I think I'm falling in love with it.
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>>136097540
That's dangerous anon.
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>>136097205
Preprogramed into him to make people try not to feel too bad.
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>>136098179
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>>136097867
I don't wanna try to fight this feeling.
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>>136098287
What is this supposed to be? I understand the quote.
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>>136095754
You're confusing the love quiz with the Astro quiz. The former is optional the latter isn't.
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>>136098729
Not telling you.
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The more I play nocturne, the more appealing killing my friends seem.
Is this normal?
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>>136099782
Kill them all, anon, kill them all. Reach the end of Amala and get that sweet Pierce.
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>>136099782
Yes. Let that feeling flow freely, anon. They're all trash. You know what to do.
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>>136099782
Stop asking the Demifiend for advice.
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>>136100591
Dehumanize myself and face to bloodshed?
Catch those motherfuckers who keep scamming me out of my life stones?
Freefall some more in amala park?
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>>136097486
Save before entering the casino and reload your save file if you lose.
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People shit on Yuzu's ending but holycrap Haru/Gin route is the definition of boring shit.
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>>136051972
Nocturne / Lucifer's Call
This game is amazing, holy shit. I was sceptical at first due to the lack of futuristic/sci-fi elements present in other SMT games, but it's actually got a really good feel to it. The atmosphere seems pretty unique.
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>Fates translation cancelled for DLC stuff
>if still isn't translated
http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=56220&page=94#entry4294090
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>>136105336
What DLC? What could be more important than If?
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>>136105336
Gideon translations are shit anyway he's as bad as the guy who localized nocturne on terms of writing their own plot into the game.
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>>136105271
it gets worse
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>>136105336
>>136106298
You shit. I thought you meant SMT If.
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So, what megaten games are currently being translated outside of If?
>inb4 implying if is ever going to get translated
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>>136107182
Devil Summoner 1
Persona 2 EPP
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>>136107286
Thanks anon.
I'm interested in both so I hope they actually get finished.
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>>136106335
What even was altered in the Nocturne localization? I keep seeing it mentioned.
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I'm replaying SMTIV for the first time since NA release and man, Jonathan and Walter's reasons to support their alignments seem even more forced than I remember. Almost every time Jonathan talks about preserving traditions and so on his arguments sound artificial and Walter goes from someone with decent ideas to full stupid in span of two-three scenes.
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>>136109181
It's Liliths titties.
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>>136105336
Fates already has an official English release though. Who cares. Well, I guess lonely waifu fags do.
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>>136109181
To be fair Jonathan is a Lawdrone, and conformity is absolutely must no matter how inhuman and machine like you become in the process.
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>>136111018
Nothings worse then a fucking chaosfag..

>m-muh freedumbs!

Order is always better then anarchy.
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>>136113175
Fucking lawfag.

Go die in a fire.
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>>136106335
>as bad as the guy who localized nocturne on terms of writing their own plot into the game.
Can you elaborate?
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>>136113175
You'll be too dead to enjoy that Order, filth. You certainly aren't lawful enough if you are here too. You have too much freedom.
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>>136113712
Fuck off unclean one.

You should be purged.
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>>136113896
No. People like passing down made up info given to them by others in the general.
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>>136114081
I'm trying to convince you faggots to not get fooled by Lucifer.

We will bring true peace to this world.
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>>136114336
Ayy Lmao is just half of Satan in the end.

Just like the Four and their combined form God's Car.
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>>136115296
In IV's universe sure. The real Lucifer is still out there in other smt verses, as a cute blonde girl/boy.
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>>136116297
Saving us from the tyranny of YHVH.
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>>136113175
>Nothings worse then a fucking chaosfag..
Hoy, fuck you
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Neutral here.

I can neither condone nor dismiss this war.

Can we not kill god, but just rough him up a bit?
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>>136116721
You're a retard Walter.
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>>136117207
Enjoy getting steamrolled by both sides, dumbass.
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>>136117207
Bleagh.

At least Chaosfags know what they're fighting for.
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>>136117531
I am indifferent about this
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The White were right.
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8th day of Naoya's route and everyone in my edge crew seems down for killing people except Atsuro. What should I do /smgt/ go full edgelord or be a pussy?
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>>136117807
Be a pussy. You'll get an option to do the other one afterwards.

Also she'll be kicked out of the party because Kaido doesn't want her to dirty her hands, even when she tries to convince people to believe in him from the sidelines.
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Hoy.
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>>136122798
worf worf
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>>136075071
I liked it.
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>>136061662
>tfw we can play this on the 3ds soon too
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Hoy.
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>>136113175
I don't get why Chaos is associated with freedom desu. If you don't have much power you'll be oppressed just as hard by those who do as in Law.
Of course according to chaosfags the strong deserve to oppress the weak, except that in reality there would be nothing preventing weaklings oppressing others with resources they didn't earn, but were just lucky enough to find/inherit/etc.

So basically Chaos/Law just comes down to be a selfish dick vs. be a dick for the """greater good""".
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>>136128606
Why do you write "desu" in all your shitposts? New meme?
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>>136128785
don't feed neutrals.
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>>136128785
The only new thing here is you.
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>>136128126
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>>136128606
Because not all games are about World of STR chaos because that's retarded chaos.

Yosuga and Freedom were treated as separate things in Nocturne and Lucifer himself embraces freedom.

Raidou II isn't about going around and saying "World of STR" while kicking puppies, nor Devil Survivor's Overlord or the Light/Dark-Chaos of Majin Tensei II.

And the demons in Devil Children still represent Chaos, but the evil ones tend to be pawns of the angels or other Lawfags.
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>>136128994
Been here since before /vg/ was a thing, sport, just because I leave for a bit and you like to shitpost doesn't mean you should project.
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>>136129657
I'm not the one you originally replied to. Consider lurking a bit if you've actually been gone for something like 5 months.
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>>136129657
t b h was replaced by desu for some time, its removed now but it just stuck.

>not keeping up with the lastest memes
pleb.
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>>136129245
Alignments don't even matter on Raidou 2 it just changes who you save at the end, the chaos and neutral end it's the same. Lucifer is portrayed as a major dick who used Dan good intentions to fuck around with the capital even on "chaos route".
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>>136130171
>its removed now
The only one that was removed was cuck = kek. baka desu and senpai are still in effect last I checked.
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>>136130290
baka desu megami tensei 2 for famicom
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>>136130250
Because there isn't much difference between Neutral and Chaos in Raidou II.

And it doesn't just change who you save, but what bosses you face. It adds like one to the Neutral route and the two share a boss early on. I think Cybele or Atavaka.

Not to mention Three NG+ quests for going Chaos, which are needed for the Neutral NG+ quest against Masakado. Also revealing that Raidou is the super special chosen one who can disrupt YHVH's control of the timeline and force the futures of SMT I and II from happening.
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>>136130062
>Consider lurking a bit
That's what I've been doing, however, context wasn't fixing that one, last I was here we didn't say desu all the time either.
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>>136130250
Louis Cyphre is not connected to the Chaos Route beyond stopping by and giving Raidou stuff for not being Law, and also talking to him because he wants that Rai-d.

Besides his manipulating of Dahn happened before the story began and was ultimately better for the Tsukigata Village in the long run, because the village was slowly killing itself by following the rules and traditions and giving women to the asshole Bug People to fuck and deform.
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>>136130373
If you ask me they should have kept a filter on cuck using faggot or fag.
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>>136130891
don't be a cuck, Walter
Cuck is the new fag, anyway
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>>136131014
Let's be honest though. Fag > cuck, and that is exactly why I suggested it as the filter.
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>>136131116
It's true, but once cuck breaks through into the normalfag sphere and becomes stigmatic, it'll be hilarious.
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>>136131554
Cuck is already stigmatized as /v/, /tv/, and /pol/ cancer though.
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>>136131892
Who cares? Don't be a fucking cuck about somebody using words.
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>>136132056
Sorry, but only faggots use cuck.
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>>136130852
I wonder if people who make these pictures of Raidou being around chaosfags even played the first game Raidou is Jonathan/Zelenin tier of law faggotry.
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>>136132162
Fuck you you faguck
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>>136132313
Fujoshi just like their cute boys being all in one place.
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>>136132374
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>>136132313
Nah if you fight Amatsu-Mikaboshi as a Chaos/Neutralfag he comments how Raidou might obey Yatagarasu on some things, it's only because they align with his beliefs, and if given the chance will defy them if he thinks his way is better.

There's even a case of this with Asura on the Law quest. They use the loophole that the Yatagarasu never express what they wanted him to do after finding out Asura's objectives, so he can choose to have him go to the alternate space-time to lead the forces of Chaos against Law to become Ahura Mazda again, or go back to performing his duties as Danichi Nyorai.

Not to mention Raidou II's Neutral/Chaos endings are practically the same thing because there's not much of a difference between a Chaosfag Raidou and a Neutralfag Raidou.
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>>136132374
>>136132827
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>>136133074
Hey buddy persona general's 2 blocks down
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>>136133173
Oh yeah? Why don't you get out of that lovely edgy stuff, I'll strip down out of my P4 sequels and we'll settle this right here in Tokyo, whaddaya think.
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>>136132313
He does every single quest Louis Cyphre asks of him. It's why he's even in the remake for Nocturne in the first place.
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>>136133587
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>>136125706
What are you talking about?
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>>136134260
Smartass...
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>>136133683
Raidou had the chance to stop the SMT I and II future from happening yet he stopped Raidou Kuzunoha the XL. He siding with Lucifer to prevent something he previously had chosen to do nothing about just because Lucifer proposed him seems far fetched desu.
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SMT x Fallout
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>>136135210
Actually no Lucifer outright states the future is predetermined by YHVH.

And XL's methods were not reasonable in Raidou's eyes. Not to mention that as long as YHVH WANTS that future to happen due to his control, it will happen. XL's actions would change nothing.

Just like Rasputin was sent back to fix the timeline, but didn't do jack and just started chasing pretty girls.

And Lucifer gives his reasoning after three battles against Raidou to determine if he's really the one. Something he only even learned because Raidou had futures where he went chaos.
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>>136135736
I fucking wish.
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>>136135736
Demonica Power Armor mod when?
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>>136135989
Never.
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>>136136402
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>>136134398
https://gbatemp.net/threads/official-thread-easyrpg-3ds-rpg-maker-2000-2003-player-for-3ds.419889/

Still in it's very early stages.
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>>136103296
How do you get Haru/Gin's ending? I always end up picking between Amane and Naoya's endings. Being the Messiah or the Demon King after beating Babel feels so much better than going back to a normalfag life.
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>>136137661
Make sure Haru doesn't kill herself and save Gin iirc.
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>>136115296
Did Inanna make Shemayaza gay or something?
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>>136137661
If you get Yuzu's but want the points make sure Gin's alive as well and do the 8th Day requirements.

Or you can just get the worst ending by doing none of that. of course those requirements can only be met if Gin's alive by default.
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>>136137909
Saving Haru is pretty easy, it's finding Gin that's the problem.
>>136138106
I have the original Devil Survivor, I don't have Overclocked.
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>>136135764
>XL's methods were not reasonable in Raidou's eyes.
but Lucifer's are? Raidou did not side with XL to try change the future for the well being of the capital but has no qualms in joining the man who almost destroyed it because he wanted to expose YHVH's Apollyon scheme?
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>>136138069
No he was just a loser. Not even a fuccboi like his son.

>>136138532
Louis wasn't out to kill lots of people and was messing with Dahn because he could. Not to mention his trolling Dahn is not part of his ultimate goal for Raidou. Too different things done for two different reasons.

And yes apparently Raidou sees it differently compared to the Xl situation, as he can agree with Dahn doing what he is doing, but that earns him Law points, while opposing killing people to open the Abysmal Realm earns Raidou chaos points.
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>>136138449
You need to save Gin from the chinky eyed shomonkai dude Asuma to trigger that you should do all the shomonkai facility events and all of Gin events and tell him the location to meet Asuma.
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>>136036875
It wasn't a great game, but it did have some interesting mechanics and a shit ton of nice references. It was also really hard to make a character that didn't look like a glittery faggot.
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>>136140830
Always good to see the choo-choo
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>>136139404
>Louis wasn't out to kill lots of people
When he tricked Dahn to open the Abysmal Realm it's exactly what he was doing. He obviously gave no fucks about killing a bunch of people just so he could expose God's questionable ways to keep people faith on him you know just Lucifer being petty bitch as usual.
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Anyone got some good Alice pictures for an avatar?
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>>136141357
Lucifer only gave him some info. It was Dahn who ultimately came to those conclusions. Same for the depressed bug people who also thought the Abysmal Realm would make things better, when they realize after its open that it changed nothing.

Plus he is revealing to Raidou a danger set up by God to kill people who don't worship him/drive people into despair to make them crawl back to him, and of course turn into apollyons themselves and leave behind their mortal coil.

Lucifer could have been playing the long game, but never interferes or tries to make things absolute in his favor. Instead he only quotes or talks about scripture to let people come to their own conclusion, and Dahn came to a pretty bad one of his own will. Lucifer never even said they would obey him if he opened it. Dahn just assumed he'd become King Abaddon the moment he did.
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I wish devil children wasn't so shit

it's such an original take on the enemy-taming rpg sub-genre, and it has pretty decent music

sucks that it's easy as shit and grindy
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>>136141801
>for an avatar
Don't be a faggot.
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Well, at least it's something.
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Mugihito voices YHVH.
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>>136146172
I want this to be real.
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Man I've never had something shipped oversees before, but I really want the strategy guide just for hopefully having boss stats like IV's small guide did in english.

I don't know why but I love knowing a bosses stats.
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>>136147470
Pretty sure they're on the wiki.
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Anyone know what the Final update changes?
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>>136147546
I'm talking about Final.

IV's stopped at Koga Saburo 1st fight.
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>>136146920
I wonder who's going to be YHVH's dub voice? Paul St. Peter?
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>>136147579
New apps
Bug fixes
New difficulty modes

That's all I know.
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I didn't know demikids had color-swaps

will it persist if i make this thing rank up?
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>>136147693
Yuri Lowenthal
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>>136147976
Shiny demons.
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>>136147976
forgot pic

nevermind anyway

i tried taking it to the fusion place and when i attempted to fuse it with a regular nekomata it said it will get stronger rather than saying it might rank up
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>>136147976
So that's the one your playing. Like DemiKids is the worse. Worst looking sprites and everything. Only the story art looks marginally better than the demon ones for Black/Red.

And yes it has shinies. The wiki even has trivia on the tront page about it.

>They finally figured out how to do it right by the end of it all.
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when will FINAL get confirmed, guys?
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>>136150578
E3.
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>>136150578
Right after Persona 5 gets announced for Japan
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>>136150578
Never.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNTCzmbmGd4&feature=share

>monkey isabeau
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>>136150654
>Atlus USA
>doing something for E3
You're delusional.
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>>136148374
>The wiki even has trivia on the front page about it.
you said this so I went over to the front page to see what was the current trivia and I was suddenly worried as to who was making these trivia lists for the wiki
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>>136152137
ook ook ee ee
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>>136153389
We control the wiki, glory to the 1000 year shitpost kingdom
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>>136153389
Yes that was done way back when Zahlzeit was here.
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>>136154106
Good times.
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Post your favorite demon
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Hoy.
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>>136157783
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>>136157783
Since you ask so nicely.
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>>136157783
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law path will never be this sweet ever again
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>>136159283
>The manga doesn't end with this.
>Instead it goes with a Loki and Naoya cover.
Yolo~
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>>136152514
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDCPhv6v5TV/
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New patch for Final is out, seems that they fixed lots of bugs.
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I love MegaTen!
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>>136161943
MegaTen is shit and so are you desu.
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>fighting YHVH on great war
>almost got him
>it freezes last second

Fuck you you big fat yellow fuck that's against the rules
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>>136071604
>Shit game

The game is great you retard, MC asides of course just like every other SMT/FE.
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>>136163743
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>>136163869
Are you genuinely retarded?

First of all, have you played it?
>Inb4 It's not what they 'promised' me
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>>136163949
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>>136164208
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>>136164258
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>>136163949
Have you? Is it difficult?
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(1) Game System/Balance Improvements
-Adjustment to balance of final dungeon
-Change of Auto-Pinpoint functionality against A (Ancient)-type demons in final dungeon
-New apps added:
--Comeback P (200 AP): Reduces number of turns required for partner to revive
--Estoma Boost (300 AP): Able to avoid battles against enemies of protagonist's level +8 or lower during Estoma
--Enemy Attack (1000 AP): Increase enemy's preemptive strike chance (unlearn by pressing Y)
--Annihilation Maniacs (3000 AP): Game Over when protagonist's HP is 0 (unlearn by pressing Y)
-Adjustment to power of "God Arrow" skill
-Able to purchase "Armor Strengthening Pack" in Ginza Premium Shop for 1,000,000 Macca

(2) Correction of Errors
-Fixes problems with Streetpass/Internet Streetpass hang-ups
-Fixes problems with battles/battle event hang-ups
-Fixes Talk icon errors in battle results/camp menu
-Fixes an error when completing a boss challenge quest and a performance challenge quest at the same time, the boss challenge quest doesn't clear and you can fight the boss multiple times
-Fixes various challenge quest-related hang-ups
-Fixes problems with not increasing number of weak points hit when doing a weak point critical
-Fixes an error with a Spirit Crystal in Ginza Underground B displaying as obtaining 0 Emeralds
-Fixes an error concerning automapping not working in final dungeon
-Fixes an error in hang-up on the first level-up in NG+
-Fixes various other errors

t. Gamefags
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>>136163869
Meh I know this is bait but honestly I was iffy about it at first but I'm really liking the game.
First of all the gameplay, it's literally 10/10(or at least by Megaten/FE standards) like holy shit it's genuinely great overall, I hope next SMT we get has a gameplay just as good. Enemies are not retarded and they will attack your weakness without a doubt and they get extra turn so you might get fucked if you're not careful, battle animations were clearly given lots of focus and it shows. Really fun to play.
Art direction/visuals are also good, main characters and enemy designs are all visually appealing and so are the attacks. The story while not being anything groundbreaking and starting in a very cliche manner gets good after that, I like the fact that it starts super happy and it progressively gets a bit darker and darker while not losing essence or going TOO FAR and being considered edgy shit at all. Characters develop a lot during the story too.


Oh and some of the jabs it takes at the japanese entertainment industry are really obvious.

I'd say the most notable con of the game is Itsuki being generic as fuck.
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>>136165591
>gets a bit darker and darker while not losing essence or going TOO FAR and being considered edgy shit at all
Dropped. I love edgy shit.
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>>136165819
Well yeah it's a generally upbeat game overall, it gets a bit edgier but not nocturne levels of edgy.
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>>136165591
Looks like a poor man's DDS in every way to me.
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Starting a neutral run of IV, do I need to follow both guides in the FAQ, or will the pastebin work just fine?

I''m talking about these, if that wasn't obvious.
http://i.imgur.com/cjVFxlQ.png
http://pastebin.com/5ycJB5Ye
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>>136166561
also, is there anything else I should know?
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>>136166561
>The third question of the Tsukiji Hongwanji: Passage of Ethics test.
>Go right -5
Pretty sure this should be go left.
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>>136165591
Just stop, this is embarrassing.
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>>136166702
really? what the fuck
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>>136168093
Unless the option to take care of your lovely vegetable is actually the chaos answer I'm fairly certain it should be go left.
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>>136168282

Vegetables are Chaos, Law subsists only on the grace of the Lord.
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>>136168490
>Vegetables are Chaos
I beg to differ.
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SMT x Vocaloid
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looking through my menus in IV NG+, do I actually have the entire bestiary filled out?
could I summon whatever I wanted once I get Mido (as long as I have the macca, that is)
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>>136168282
Though I guess the range for neutral is like +8 to -8 so it doesn't matter since going left would leave you at -1 while right would leave you at -6.
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Why Atlus never explored the idea of redemption in Law route othen than DeSu1?
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>>136169334
Wait I fucked that up. Doesn't matter since it's still in range though.
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>>136170218
Maybe in SMT V.
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>No Lilith heroine
Step it up Atlus.
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What does the writer of the original books think of the Megaten series today?
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>>136174278
I don't think he gives a shit, the series moved away from the books completely with the very second game.
He did however write a sequel to the original novels. The original novels are just pulpy entertainment, nothing groundbreaking but a fun read nonetheless.
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>>136169206
yes, but wait until you get the app that lowers the price down to 50%
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>>136174831
A fan. A shame he's a complete lawfaq.
http://complete.electrolit.net/2010/09/24/megami-tensei-novel-turned-game-turned-novel/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6kMeLoTKdM
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>>136178270
I want to play it.
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>isamu in the hospital
Urge to purge rising.
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>>136165591
>First of all the gameplay, it's literally 10/10(or at least by Megaten/FE standards)
>Art direction/visuals are also good, main characters and enemy designs are all visually appealing and so are the attacks.
>Oh and some of the jabs it takes at the japanese entertainment industry are really obvious.
>I'd say the most notable con of the game is Itsuki being generic as fuck.
>Implying
Gotta love those mediocre phoned-in dungeons, right? What a challenge the combat truly is, as in hardly at all. Supernova tedium tenfold is my favorite kind of animation. It's so visually appealing with it's garbage animations, washed-out and consistently clashing colors, complete lack of fashion sense, and the faces of people that should've been aborted. The brightly colored silhouettes of people aren't annoying at all. I really like the approach they take on idols - I mean, it's not like they're actually whitewashing the shit out of it or anything, right? I agree that Itsuki was the worst thing, much worse than the obnoxious filler inbetween gameplay, the Vocaloid imouto who is also apparently Tiki but with a god awful character design, and the flanderized Fire Emblem characters, right? It sure isn't an awful excuse for a game and I'm not being sarcastic about this at all, hee haw!
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Will any of the newer SMTs ever get an anime?
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>>136166509
It's kind of a poor man's mix between DDS and SJ, actually.
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>>136181240
They don't make OVAs like they used to anymore so I hope not.
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>>136181240
Considering that every single one of them outside of the old two ovas has been shit I am quite indifferent about it.
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>>136181240
I think Raidou might be a good contender but only if Atlus plan to revive Devil Summoner.
I won't be against the adaptation of P1 manga as well.
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>>136164716
>--Annihilation Maniacs (3000 AP): Game Over when protagonist's HP is 0 (unlearn by pressing Y)

>-Adjustment to balance of final dungeon
What do they mean? I didn't notice anything wrong in it except the automap-error they've fixed now.
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>>136184417
>Raidou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5wR2zUjw0
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>>136134398
>that browser
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Why did they use Krishna and not Kalki?
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Is it possible to turn off the audio for non-battle dialogue in SMT IV?

I feel like an idiot for not playing the game sooner, I avoided it for years because I didn't think it seemed SMT enough. It looked like some weird Suikoden and Persona fusion but my mind was changed after Steven and the demonica samurai showed up
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>Mephisto is a reward for swimsuit DLC

Is it some kind of a commentary?
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Hoy.
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>>136189348
thank you dog
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Hey /smtg/, I'm currently playing DDS on my PS3.
Any tips? The game is really fucking fun but I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong. Currently on the Hunt mantra, is it worth it?
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Does Maken X/Shao have any references to Megaten?
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>>136135736
I just had the mental image of radiation-enhanced demons and the usual shit FPS-RPG hybrid Bethesda shits out
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>>136197716
I don't remember there being any.
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>>136197716
>tfw can't get shao to work on PCSX2
Oh well.
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>>136197560
Hunt mantras basically give you physical skills and hunt skills, which allow you to eat your enemies for more karma/whatever it is that lets you complete your mantras faster. All mantras are good per se, but you might want to base your mantras around what you'll be needing/using for the dungeon (such as if most enemies in a dungeon are weak to ice, you might want all 3 party members to have an ice skill (doesn't need to be the strongest skill, otherwise you're wasting time and mantra EXP), to get as many press turns as possible). You'll most definitely want Mutual Karma (allows non-party members to get full EXP), so get that on all your characters as soon as possible. There are more tips in the tricks & tips pastebin (it says to get the mantra that each character is weak to to get Resist [Element] to get rid of the weakness, but I found that I've never needed to do that. At a minimum, get Void/Repel/Drain [Weakness] on all characters, and you should be fine). Just go with what you want to learn and have fun. You'll get the hang of it as you play. Also, I'd suggest getting the full mantra for the skill each character is strong for (Serph is strong for Ice, get the full mantra route for Ice for him, Heat is Fire (and secondary Phys), get the Fire and Phys mantras for him, etc.)

If you have any more questions you can always ask here, but part of the fun is creating a strategy/party around a boss fight, so don't get discouraged if you die. Also Cielo is pretty much useless for this game. If you're planning on playing DDS2 however, he's one of the best party members

Hope my explanation made some sense.
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>>136202978
>Also, I'd suggest getting the full mantra for the skill each character is strong for (Serph is strong for Ice, get the full mantra route for Ice for him
I'd recommend the opposite, train Serph in fire to cover his weakness sooner.
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>>136200320
Maken X is better anyway, Shao is just weird with third person applied to levels designed for a first person game
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Don't sleep.
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>>136202978
Holy shit that's one good reply. Thanks man, glad to see people willing to help others in here.
I'm already at the Maribel base so I pretty much know how everything works
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>>136211662
LET ME SLEEP PLEASE
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Gee Hero, how come Atlus lets you have TWO friends?
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>>136212769
No arm!
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>>136212494
Fuck you!
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I finally fucking killed the two faggots and got out of the diamond realm.

I had 19000 money and now only 2000 fucking maccas,

is there a place where I can buy a gun?
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Which ending is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juEee_qJ8Jo
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Tokyo being under the eastern Kingdom of Mikado was the biggest twist of my life.
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I want SMT2 on 3ds
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>>136215850
Sucks to be you then.
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>>136216054
snes version sucks
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Is it viable to complete Amane's path without doing free battles?

Also, do the points of my titles carry over in all my future NG+?
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SMTIV:F's Law and Chaos Endings are out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoHmSj7Uv4Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXTEFb2YmKs
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>>136218218
Old
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I wanna see the ending where Flynn eats pussies
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I've just completed SMT IV and I'm kinda confused about Eastern Kingdom of Mikado.
How did it appear on the top of Tokyo's ceiling? They say early in game that the year in Mikado is 1492. So, it was atop of Tokyo for nearly 1500 years or what? Why do some Tokyo dwellers remember the time when there was no ceiling then? And if Mikado is just a sort of floating island the size of Tokyo, why no one in Mikado knows about it? Why do other countries don't give a single fuck that there is whole country above where Tokyo used to be?
I loved the game, but Mikado really confuses me.
Though cant admit that I really love the twist of Tokyo being under Mikado. I knew that most time in game you spend in Tokyo, but I was prepared for it to be a parallel dimension. Going down into Naraku and finding Tokyo was really great.
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>>136216204
Go learn moonrunes and play the PS1 version then. Problem solved.
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>>136218218
When you think about it, Asahi isn't all that cute
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>>136221365
the world has been annihilated and god's chosen people (the one that were saved and flew away on cocoons) repopulated the world with no knowledge of what came before it since they were taken as children.
Tokyo is an exception because it was saved by flynn and masakado. The time in the new world is a lot faster, so while only 25 years passed in tokyo a millennia and a half passed in masakado.
Why time works that way is never explained, it's probably because of the influence of masakado.
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>>136223389
passed in mikado*, sorry, I had a brainfart
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>>136222182
It took you this long to notice?
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>>136215685
This leads to Anarchy/Peace Endings.
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>>136217524
Pls respond.
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>>136228657
Yes.
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I've avoided /smt/ general since a little after 4 came out.

What is the status on Final? Good? Bad? Spoil me please.
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>>136229921
Good gameplay. Tone's all over the place. Law & Chaos are rehashes, and deep neutral was a rumor.
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>>136229921
who cares the endings are shit
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>>136230120

Sounds like SMT4, and I liked that game quite a bit. Can't wait.
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>>136229921
3/4 endings are bad and the tone isn't very consistent, but the gameplay is mostly improved from IV and we even got one whole actual dungeon.
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Is skub law or chaos?
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>>136229921
Great imo. They lied when they said 4 endings though it's actually 2 satisfying ones and 2 endings that feel like the White ending except not as interesting.
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>>136231672
Fact: skub will lead civilisation to doom.

it's White.
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FUCK YOU ISAMU
I SHOULD HAVE KILLED YOUR BITCH ASS BACK IN THE HOSTPITAL
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>>136234670
Isamu did nothing wrong.
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if Stephen is a cripple why are his leg crossed?
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>>136235224
he's just cool like that
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Does anyone have that picture with you cannot escape the hunger witht he amount of smt games played please?
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>>136236947
No but I'll give you lewd picture.
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>>136236947
Yes, I have it.
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>>136236947
Why does this get asked for so often?
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How boring.
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>>136242528
Dogs are pretty boring, yeah.
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>>136238576
i think that he's trying to ask you to post it
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>>136242797
Not always

SMT x Senran Kagura
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>>136242804
I see.
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>>136243149
>SMT x Senran Kagura
Terrible idea.
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>>136243343
You shut your whore mouth.
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>>136243157
i like what you are doing
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why is half of the story of IV locked behind DLC?
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>>136243149
I want to see Asahi expanding breasts.
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>>136238962
people like measuring their E-peen
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>>136243750
But it gets posted so often you would think these people would save it.
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>>136243595
are you dumb?
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>>136243149
Might be cool.

Do we have to kill some senrans?

Are we a random nobody who stumbled on a Law vs Chaos war with a side of Shinobi?
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>>136243818
simple answer to that

phone-posters

they're too computer illiterate to know how to into file saving. fucking newfags
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>>136243938
>Sasuke Uchiha as a cute anime grill
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>>136243149
Gessen - Law
New Hebi - Chaos
Crimson Squad - Neutral
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>>136244127
What about an option to side with the demons?
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>>136244114
If Sasuke was a loli who could turn into a E-cup woman then Naruto would have been 10/10
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>>136244565
>>136243938
I can't wait to edge it up when she comes out.
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>>136244720
You and me both, buddy.
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why would anyone willingly choose the law route in IV?
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>>136245939
Completionism.
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>>136245939
Because they believe in Order.
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>>136245939
If you ignore Neutral it's a pretty good law route
Noble sacrifice, save the kingdom, Gabby
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>>136245939
It's probably one of the nicest Law ends in Megaten, next to DeSu1's Law ending.
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>>136246246
but it makes you become just an empty shell
and also there's the genocide thing
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Does anyone have the CIA for the SMT4 Final update?
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>>136244127
Gessen is best academy
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>>136246761
But they're massive lawfags.
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I just almost beat Nocturne for the first time (spoilers ahead):
>Doing TDE, breezed my way up to Disco Ball God
>Spend 20+ minutes fighting both of his forms
>Satan appears
>Have an incredibly drawn out battle, putting damage on slowly with Demifiend as everyone else is on support duty
>Goes on for what must have been at least another 20 minutes, I feel like I am on the verge of victory, one or two hits left.
>He hits party with the move that has a chance for random status effects, Charms my Uriel
>Uriel immediately casts Mediarahan on him and heals him for 65,000 hp
>My resolve crumbles to ashes.

I fucking love SMT.
NEVER trust Archangels though.
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>>136246680
Request it on 3dsiso, Japs can't into homebrew because almost all the applications are in english.
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>>136247217
>Satan

You fucking dipshit.
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>>136247217
>Satan
I thought that bad boy didn't appear in Nocturne. Is that a Chronicle thing like Raidou?
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>>136247454
It is Lucy, my bad.

>>136247398
In my defense his final sprite looks way more like that awesome Satan one.
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>>136245939
Mikado seems like a nice place to live next to the demon-infested Tokyo or the ruins of the world at large in the Chaos and Neutral ends.
I remember finishing Neutral and not really being sure of what I'd accomplished besides preventing either Tokyo or Mikado from suffering genocide.

You unfortunately have to kill a bunch of good people on Law and everyone has to abide by autistic laws but I can see how some people might think it's worth it.
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let's be honest here,
the white ending is the best one.
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Anyone playing megaten 4 final? I'm fucking stuck on the hawk boss down in the water cavern.
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I have some bad news regarding Devil Summoner 1 translation
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>>136248760
>hawk boss
You mean Sukuna-Hikona?

>>136248886
Yes?
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>>136248968
Esper had a rage fit because of the VWF and will go back to it in a few months
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>>136249145
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>>136248968
Hit his weaknesses, buff/debuff, he's no different than most IV bosses, maybe even a little easier.
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>>136249145
What do you mean?
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>>136248968
I don't know very much kanji so this game is hard for me to read. But yes. Any tips on beating him? I'm the same level as him and learned his weakness is zio but he one shots my entire team in one hit. Furthest I've made it in that fight is a few turns in when you get to talk to him. Help please.
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>>136249846
You don't seem to be underleveled so I don't know what to say. I only ever played on Normal so maybe that's why you're having a hard time but I just got a couple demons with zio and had a pretty easy time.
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I thought King Kenji was supposed to be one of the "hard" bosses in SMTIV? He went down like a fucking chump, much like the bosses before him. Am I gonna have to buy the fucking DLCs if I want a challenge, or are those chumps too?
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>>136249846
What difficulty you on.
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can someone add a maga hat to flynn, but instead of america, have it say Tokyo
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>>136250158
>>136250109
Um, I believe I'm on normal, but I could be wrong. I have no idea what the difficulties really say, but I am playing the middle one. I don't really want to lower the difficulty either.
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>>136250541
Middle is normal, first is easy, last is hard.

Why does he wipe your party so easily? Does he hit your weaknesses? Do you have buffs/debuffs? Always fuse better demons.
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>>136250868
He just hits hard. With one of his aoe spells like zan or bufu he'll just wipe my entire team. And yeah, I have a level 26 angel. I'll just lower the difficulty 'cause I've been stuck on him for a day.
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>>136250395
Funny, I was trying to do that with Asahi but the rim was to big. I'll try with Flynn.
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>>136250395
Hava better pic
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>>136250395
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>>136255969
excellent

thank you anon
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>>136256606
No problem.
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>>136248968
>Sukuna-Hikona
Naoto reference xD
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>>136259670
Don't do that.
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>>136259670
wat
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>>136259767
>>136259783
There are actual retards out there.
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>>136260229
>Turkish
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>>136260229
>This design is really bad
Soejimafags have the same blind fanboyism as Kanekofags.
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>>136261362
I think the main problem is that the retard thinks it is Persona reference rather than a fucking god in Japanese mythos.
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>>136260229
>this design of Sukuna-Hikona is really bad
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SMT x NIER
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>>136115296
Saying "just" is misleading. Anyone familiar with the series by now should realize that fusion and fission never meant that the individual pieces totally align with the whole. Even in old religions they didn't. In gnosticism the pieces of the pleroma jesus don't know god like he does. In hinduism the parts of brahman aren't all indicative of the qualities of isvara. Etc.

That's why the pieces of "abel" in devil survivor all live their own lives and can end up at multple ends, even though they reflect in some weird way enough of the total abel that naoya still considers it him. (That or he's just crazy and willing to treat anything like abel, which is also a possibility). And likewise why the pieces of bel had different personalities and each wanted to "become" the new bel. Because which one wins is a very different result, leading to a distinct identity of how the conglomerate ends up as.

The fact that lucifer and the angels are pieces of satan doesn't mean they don't have individual identities. That's kind of the point. They were broken up into parts which then started each doing their own thing, but for which yhvh was laughing his ass off, since lucifer thought he was rebelling but was playing into his schemes all along. The implication of them all being pieces isn't that their individual actions all just added up to satan's actions. They had distinct identities but decided in the end that they needed to reform to do away with yhvh.
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>>136109181
The weird thing about IV is that johnathan is even ore extreme than the angels in some ways. Johnathan rambles on about tradition until the very end of the game, so much that the white even ask you about it to decide your ending. Yet the angels weren't preserving tradition at all. They straight up kill the king, say that the monarchy was shit, and change everything. The only thing that's "preserved" is that from the perspective of mikado the people there kept living there and calling it mikado.

>>136128606
You can ask the same thing about anarcho capitalism in real life. There's more freedom on paper since technically any individual can do whatever they want. In practice you have less self determination than in neutral, because only people with power and resources can actually make use of it. Because you being forced to do things by random people doesn't count as anti freedom unless they call themself the government.

The even more confusing part is that lucifer calls himself a king, and monarchy is associated with chaos endings in most of the games. King kenji. The chaos end in IV. Etc.
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OKAYY, YOUR TURN NOW
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Why the fuck does Gabriel claim Shinjuku National Park was once a holy ground?
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>tfw finally killing Isabeau for the first time
This entire game I wanted nothing more than this, I feel so fucking good right now
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>>136264973
Good taste my man.

>>136264948
Because that's where they built their ark and held God's chosen captive.
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>>136264973
Umm, you never get to kill her :^)

She kills herself, to rob you of your high score.
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>>136265191
Oh, okay. Thanks. I thought it had something to do with real life and I couldn't find anything online.
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>>136264973
What are you talking about? You don't kill her on any route but White, and even then, that's not direct.
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>>136265223
>>136265621

You do kill her though. She was clearly dying when she did this. That's like saying if you cut someone in half but they live for one second you didn't kill them because they didn't die right when you did. She clearly knew she was dying for real. That's why she killed herself instead of kept attacking. Her doing the last blow doesn't change whether you killed her.
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>>136265223
>implying that doesn't just make it all the more satisfying

>>136265621
That's just being anal, man. You still can't deny that she wouldn't be dead if not for Flynn.
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>>136266047
>You still can't deny that she wouldn't be dead if not for Flynn.
You are now responsible for every murder out there because you didn't shoot the killer. Those people wouldn't be dead if you had stepped up.
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>>136265803
>That's like saying if you cut someone in half but they live for one second you didn't kill them because they didn't die right when you did
Not even close, try again.
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>>136266159
That's a pretty retarded jump in logic. Isabeau slit her own throat after you had beat her to near death. If she had not acted on her own she would have died due to the injuries Flynn gave her anyway. It's not comparable to situations that aren't even remotely your fault because there's no way you could have influenced them either way.
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>>136266159
Nice try, but no cigar. You know exactly what the difference is. Flynn is directly responsible for her death, whereas I'd be indirectly responsible for those.
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>>136265803
>Was dying anyway
>Decides to slit her throat despite that and makes a huge bloody mess on the floor

Why is Isabeau so retarded?
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>>136264973
>those mid-battle dialogue options
>the arrogant lines are the 'right' choices
felt reeaaal good to do. Also the slight changes in tone for the lines whether you were chaos or law-aligned were nice touches.
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>>136267257
m-muh samurye honor
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Miiverse shows people with DLC. One of them shows Hugo turning into a demon, similar to Issachar in IV.
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>>136267257
>Why is Isabeau so retarded?
vagina
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>>136267263
>Have you no human feeling left in you?

Feels good alright.
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>>136267257
Monkeys aren't as intelligent as humans. Simple as that.
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>>136246468
The Archangels were cleaning up a few loose ends before building their kingdom. Plus, Lilith forced Gabriel's hand into it by corrupting the minds of the Casualries with literature. If the Black Samurai hadn't shown up, then it's possible that she wouldn't do anything.
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>>136229062
K, thnx.
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>>136266661
>That's a pretty retarded jump in logic
So is
>That's like saying if you cut someone in half but they live for one second you didn't kill them because they didn't die right when you did
Since it's a random retarded leap in logic.
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>>136268805
Sure is a good thing I didn't say that.
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>>136269051
Then why counter a point you agree with?
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>>136269134
I didn't say I agree with you either.
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>>136246468
You are just ensuring that your home town stays as a really nice place to live in.

Yes, that deal kinda sucks for the habitants of Tokyo, but you can't deny that they are fucked anyways.
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>>136261362
Huh the suit has that Kaneko feel to it. If it wasn't for the head i'd think Kaneko had drawn that.
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>>136250116
DLC are fun challenges, but the main game is easy af.
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>>136269342
Knowing what figure it is, would you have believed Kaneko drew it? Nothing about it really references Sukuna-Hikona's myth at all.
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>>136267804
Are you not allowed to play the dlc if you are locked into Anarchy route? The beach dlc wouldn't work because you have no friends anymore.
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>>136269798
I'm not talking about Sukuna's myth references, just how it looks and stuff. That head/helmet whatever it is feels too modernish for his stuff but maybe is the coloring.
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One of you guys said you could see your max HP in battle? Well I can't, so how am I supposed to know how close I am to death? Memorize my HP and all my other demons HP?
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>>136270480
>not using the screenshot tool within Snes9X
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>>136247217
If I were you, I would have cried a little to be honest.
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>>136270480
>how am I supposed to know how close I am to death
0 = ded
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>>136270480
Something I enjoy with old JRPGs is keeping a notebook/spreadsheet open with all of my information.
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>>136249846
Where's your cofhee mug?
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>>136270887
no thanks

Is there a translated GBA version?
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>>136271058
No, but there is the iOS version.
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>>136271226
ok thanks
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>>136270480
>One of you guys said you could see your max HP in battle? Well I can't, so how am I supposed to know how close I am to death? Memorize my HP and all my other demons HP?
in smt 1 you can see max health
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>>136271431
So my only option for SMT II is to write that stuff down?
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>>136271391
What the fuck. Does it actually say that?
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>>136271570
demons don't level up, its not like you'll ever have or need more than like 6-7 demons
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>>136271590
I wonder if it said that for SMT I before it was released.
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>>136271712
still id like to know when theyre gonna die without needing to look at something
Also don't wanna play II on my phone, not on that tiny screen.

Maybe one day they'll make a definite II, who knows. They did that for Soul Hackers so I don't see why not.
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>>136272120
They're going to die when their hp is close to 0? I don't get your problem with it.
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>>136272120
m8
its not like you need to know the exact hp amounts
having a vague idea that a certain demon has roughly 250 hp is more than enough. you wont need to take any notes bud
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>>136272375
It's about how close they are to death relative to their own health. Two demons with 10 HP left are both 10 HP from death, but the one with more HP is closer to death, so in that case I'd probably heal that one.
idk maybe i'm being autismo but it's kinda weird not having that information available
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>>136271570
>>136271431
Actually, there might be an option in the settings to make II have a menu similar to I. I remember something like that in there. Have a look.
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>>136165819

Why does it sound like edgy shit is the only appeal SMT has for /v/?
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>>136273235
I found no such option, you sure it's there?
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>>136274440
Why would you ever want a game that appeals to /v/. They don't even like video games.
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>>136274440
Because you're retarded.
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>>136274687
Maybe it was just to change how you display status. It's been a while desu.
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So which game has your least favorite OST? I see people talk about how much they love SMT IV and DDS, but which game has the shittiest music?
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>>136279694
Strange Journey
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>>136279694
Persona 1's remake music. The original is also very bland sounding, so both of them.
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>>136280000
Quads confirm I guess. Everyone go home.
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When I said everyone go home I didn't mean it literally.
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>>136281545
Too late. Be careful what you ask for next time.
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>>136281817
But I don't want to be alone. Who can I kill if I have no friends?
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>>136282105
Everyone's alone in the end. Try not to feel too bad.

There is also nothing new to talk about other than the beach dlc.
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>>136282329
April 14th can't come soon enough.
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>>136282329
>There is also nothing new to talk about other than the beach dlc.
So how 'bout that beach dlc
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>>136282582
There's nothing to say about it because it got datamined.
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>>136282582
Asahi is cute!

What's she saying? Something like "does this swimsuit look strange?"
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>>136282704
>ywn get to die horrifically in front of Asahi.
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>>136283069
>Asahi will never get to die horrifically in front of you
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Was he happy before he died?
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>>136284332
No.
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>>136286073
Poor Hero, he was born to suffer.
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>>136284332
He probably got to fuck the heroine so eh maybe? He cucked the law hero from beyond the grave
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Was Abel able to disable God?
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>>136125706
>VX
No. You won't be able to. That's 2000 and 2003 only as far as I can see.
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Only 4 years until the black Sun apocalypse, guys.

Hang in there.
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EO x SMT when.
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>>136288743
Ragnarok is coming soon too.
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>>136288950
Is that from Kowashitai?
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>>136289185
Doesn't look remotely as terrible or oversaturated as #FE so not sure where you got that idea for a joke. It's from Sweden.
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>>136288890
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>>136289282
Maybe he wants a successor.
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>>136288890

Only if you can make a team of recruited FOEs.
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>>136288890
persona q
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WAKE UP
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>>136295323
No.
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>>136295323
LET ME SLEEP PLEASE
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>>136298367
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>>136298921
Thank you.
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Have a cup of cofhee /smtg/ and wake up already, will ya?
I'm sorry I'm not playing SMT this time
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>>136300463
You're dead to me.
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>>136300463
It's got SMT at the front, it's barely acceptable.
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>>136301136
A-Anon I..
I'm eventually playing everything megaten related. Plus it was a gift! And look how clean my vita is ;~;

>>136301380
Thank you anon. I know it isn't the most loved thing here but I don't like /pg/ and I wanted to know "how bad" it really is.
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>>136300463
>SMT x Persona will never be a thing
>you will never murder the entire P4 cast right after they finish a dumb speech about the power of friendship
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>>136301562
I already wish I could kill Chie and Yukiko so I feel your pain. The VA's help
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>>136300463
fake pic
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>>136301708
It gets worse.
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>>136301708
chie is better in vanilla
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>>136301793
heh, you got me anon!

>>136301932
Oh god.
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>>136301708
Isn't there a skip option in Golden?

Just ignore everyone and make context-less dialogue choices, it's not like you have an alignment-lock to worry about.
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>>136302051
I've heard so. I'll take a look on youtube later on.

>>136302142
I just press triangle since I read faster than the VA's.
>context-less dialogue choices
This however, sounds fun.
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>>136302243
It's still bad. It's just possible to get used to.
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So I'm at the point in SJ where you're about to invade Jack's Squad's HQ. Remind me why I'm supposed to hate these guys again.
I mean yeah they're unnecessarily dickish, but it's hard to have sympathy for demons that were probably attacking them anyway and is it really unreasonable for them to take a fucking spy prisoner?
Everyone acts like it's this huge faux pas but how the fuck else are they supposed to deal with saboteurs?

Experimenting on Jimenez is a bit fucking overboard but other than that I don't see how they've done anything wrong.
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>>135991873
>Some dude posts about this in my shitty smt facebook group
>Some dude starts translating it
what
This is working out suprisingly well
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>>136305268
>that awful font
this shouldnt trigger me as hard as it does
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>>136305489
dont be a picky bitch
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>>136304621
I guess it's because they're doing what the demons/Schwartzwerlt is condemning humanity for, and they're an (increasing) potential threat to your side and the mission. Also, considering that you've been working alongside demons as teammates and can get along with them well/have them join you with a few choice words, the game is probably trying to play on that; that they can be your greatest allies, or you could live in relative peace, but not if you just blow through everything and capture/kill them left and right, and put them through a lot of suffering purely for the profits of a select few (sort of like what we're doing to the environment and such). I think that the demons they captured were just minding their own business, or maybe even being friendly to them before they got caught. More or less proving the demons point, I guess, that humanity can't get along with any other species and will always try to force them under their (our?) control and destroy them when it fails to work or they resist at any point.

You've got a good point though, never thought of it that way.
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>>136271724
It did.
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>>136305268
does it include the extra scenes that were added in the gba version?
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No sleeping
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoI18FYSR_jhuu_VfYK8YrA

Neet gamer2 beat the game and went Peace.

Also the people who played it got it wrong, Danu very clear makes a second Dagda using the luck of the irish.
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>>136318143
Who cares.

Where's Anarchy.
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>>136282582
>No one knows what the Cleaopatra dlc is about.
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>>136267804
We've known that for awhile since it was leaked. Hope becomes a demon as well.
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>>136268516
The anon who posted her info on the artbook confirmed it. Lilith mucking things up is why Gabby had to remake the kingdom in a different manner.
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>>136318196
Only if Hallelujah is Megami.
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>>136318143
So the real Dagda is dead and his smile is meaningless?
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>>136318841
We'll have to find out more, but I think she made a version of him before he embraced the edge.

He also didn't die in a normal manner but disappeared in irish light.
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>>136305268
Damn I was gonna do it myself when I had time. Since they're doing it, I guess I shouldn't.
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>>136305268
literally RPGmaker
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>>136323464
No shit, Sherlock
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>>136323464
So what? Not all that different from an Atlus first person EO, SJ, etc
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>This place hasn't died

>>136215437
Shinjuku.
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>>136301497
I'll have to say that P4 is good, or maybe at least enjoyable; it has several flaws, but it is far from being a terrible game. The problem is that the fanbase is really, really cancerous and overrates the game way out of proportion.
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>>136305268
It needs a cooler font.
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>>136283641
Is that part out yet with Playthroughs on YT?
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>make my way through Purgatorium in SMTIV
>Aniel and Azrael make me think the game is turning up the difficulty a bit now
>get all excited to fight Merkabah
>mfw it's one of the easiest bosses in the game
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>>136305268
Tell your friends to fix that typo.
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Fuck yeah, Nocturne TDE beaten.
Although I feel like I cheated it somehow, the final boss didn't cast Dekunda/Dekaja a single time that fight.
Although he did Charm Uriel into healing him to full again at one point, fucking archangels.
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>>136326516
>no Dante
>no Black Frost
Do you even friendship, anon?
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>>136327417
Well Dante helped me slay the lord of Disco Balls but got replaced by Daijoubu (AKA I'm immune to ailments and can spam Prayer-fiend) in the final fight.
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>>136300463
Well fuck. I picked up P4 just last night, too. Started a new game + to complete S.Links and the compendium and stuff.
I still don't understand why people like S.Links so much in P4. Outside of Ai, Dojima and Kanji, they're shitty as fuck.
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>>136325895
Which one? Agirao or Deffence?
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>>136333000
Both to be honest.
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>>136324548
Yeah, I have a hard time hating stuff. So far I'm enjoying it. I was caught off guard by the Contrarian King optional boss due to that rampage attack that one shots my whole team if I don't raise evasion/defence on the whole party. It's really bugging me that it's single target buffs instead of the whole team. I assume debuffing him instead of buffing myself might be a better strategy? The only 3 turns thing irks me as well.

>>136330758
To be honest I liked the earlier SLinks on P3 more than I'm enjoying these ones but I suppose it's still too early to tell.
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>>136335840
P3's S.Links aren't anything special either outside of a couple of them as well, though. To be honest, the only ones I remember are the drunk monk, the dying guy and Chihiro.
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http://youtu.be/4bGXb-E9U64
>13 mins in
>shesha removes worst character
>he couldn't escape his hunger
>that smug distorted Flynn tone
>Nanashi's seeing red and I think he's screaming
Truly smug squad does good.
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Pascal the bitch is here
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>>136339193
I thought it was Vietnamese not Japanese descendants that ate dog and cat
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>>136109181
Walter's isn't forced at all. Just because you fags agree with him for the most part and then are disappointed because he's a psycho, doesn't mean that his character is inconsistent. It makes sense, his problem always was that some people don't even have the chance to fight back which is ensured in Infernal Tokyo.

>>136243938
>>136244565
>howtoruinacharacterinafewseconds.webm

>>136250109
The only difficult bosses on hard are at the end and I can't remember having a problem with Sukuna-Hikona. Must be a personal problem.

>>136262854
This. Sounds like beadman

>>136282704
Yes. Stupid bitch didn't even realize she overdid it with the make-up but she whines about some fucking swimsuit.

>>136320403
This mindset is stupid as fuck. Wait for a while, if it turns out that they are as fast as Gideon, do it yourself.


Damn, I think I have never responded to that many a non e mouses before.
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Hey, don't die.
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>>136342367
No.
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>>136342691
Page 6 in four minutes, what the fuck?
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>>136342874
It's fate.
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Almost finished with Persona 4 Golden and want to try another one. Having trouble deciding between versions of P3. Can you guys offer any insight? I already read the OP. Platform doesn't matter to me, I can either buy a hardcopy on PS2 or download Portable on the Vita.
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>>136343548
This ain't the Persona general, boy.
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SMT x Swans
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>>136343548
Get P3 FES without a doubt.

Some people will say "muh direct control" and recommend you Portable, but it just isn't worth it. The game wasn't balanced around it, and the commands work really well once you learn them and you aren't lazy.
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>>136343548
Portable gameplay is much better FES is for muh animu cutscenes babies.
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>>136343548
Play both, honestly.
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>>136343548
FES has more content to offer
Portable is for "Muh Female MC" babies
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>>136344289
>Aigis fanfiction tier epilogue
>Much more content
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>>136336548
You should have posted Neet gamer2's version. There's no guy talking.
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While you still have teeth, /smtg/
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>>136344729
You could say the same about the genderswapped MC's interactions.
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Enjoy your Holy Week, /smtg/.

Remember to don't eat meat and go to church.
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>>136345401
Fuck holy week.
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>>136345401
>not Hoy week
>tfw you're shifting to law every waking moment
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>>136345401
I ate meat today. I'll eat meat tomorrow too. Suck it lawfags
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>>136345708
Hoy has been confirmed to be law for a while now.
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I just started playing Overclocked 6 years after beating the ds version to completion. I thought I would enjoy the voices but holy shit it's comically bad, Naoya sounds like a bored stoner and Atsuro sounds like Shinji from the first eva dub. And I never knew Yuzu could get even more annoying than she already was.

/endblog Did you like the voices smtg?
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>>136345825
Law is kinda weird when it comes to religion.

Especially when you see law reps fucking up with God.
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>>136346131
Yeah, I liked them for the most part. Yuzu and Midori are annoying, but their voices are fitting for the same reason.

And although I agree that Naoya sounds deadpan during his first apperances, I think that he got better as the game progressed.
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>>136346052
>>136262854
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>>136262854
No he considered that one his brother because they were both incarnated into the same family.

It's not like what's Abel gone through is much better, considering YHVH ripped him apart and turned him into a demon in the first place.
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>>136345825
i want argilla's tits give me a blowjob
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>>136345708
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>>136345401
>don't eat meat
Sorry, I'm not GAAAAAAAY
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>>136347636
Seems like you don't belong here, buddy.
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>>136347636
>not enjoying succulent fish
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>>136346254
Satan's a pretty cool dude desu. Better than that untrustworthy Mastema for sure.
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>>136348194
Fish is meat

>>136348179
Fuck off bitchboy
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>>136348194
>Fish meat isn't meat
I hate this meme. I don't care how old it is it's fucking shit.
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>>136346131
>Spike Spencer sounds like Spike Spencer
Shocking, I know.
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Wake up.
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>>136350368
Is Spike Spencer actually Atsuro? I didn't know that, the website didn't have VA info. He sounds hilarious.
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>>136352448
hoy
it's midnight
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>>136353338
The night is young.
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>>136347383
>semana santa
Puta merda não estava a esperar isto
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I'm going to do a run in SMTIV where Flynn will only use his sword and gun like in the first two games.

Any tips?
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>>136355556
DEX and LUK.
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>>136349735
are you a vegan faggot or something?
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>>136356140
No, I eat meat pretty much every day. How would I survive in a world of STR without my vitamin B12?
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Is full WORLD OF STR viable in SMT1?
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>>136356468
SMT1 and 2 are like the only games where balanced stats (excluding INT, and LUK to some extent) are viable.

You want SPD, VIT, at first, then STR, then you want more SPD, then some LUK, then you just balance out the rest of your points and use incense.
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