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Party in Klaipeda edition

Previous Thread: >>135838998

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding. The game is out in South Korea with International Early Access beginning March 29th, and F2P release beginning April 28th.

>Can I play the game now?
International servers open for Early Access on March 29th, 02:00 AM (EST) if you have a Founders Pack, and open for F2P users on April 28th. You can also play on the Korean Servers now if you have a verified Nexon Korea account, which requires a Korean Mobile Phone number.

>Early Access Info:
Server Schedule: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/founders-server-exclusive-access-now-purchasable-on-steam/151534
Early Access FAQ: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/frequently-asked-questions-regarding-the-latest-announcement/145895

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Early Access begins March 29th, 02:00 AM (EST) with purchase of Founder Pack, April 28th for F2P users

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
- kTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X50XoEFxK4q10GmO9gU7izzUlw_C72Qr1fnRC6ou2wE/edit
- iTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ufD39PDP-VpU9NGokyNgWx_YHxkTo4bFHTaJWl-O4GE/edit
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anime faggots
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>>135883695
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1vt4y0tCiG7
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Lolipan a cute.
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kill attentionwhores
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What did you buy?

http://strawpoll.me/7139308
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this OP looks decent
finally
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>>135884306
>pick one
You fucked up
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>>135884306
50, sucker.

>>135884423
Gross.
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good coffee
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>>135884192
Is that you, Nyanners?

>Lolipa is an actual loli

That's lewd. Lolipantsu?

Lolipan a cute.
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>>135884257
>People watched Sengoku Collection
I thought it was surprising that /tosg/ had Leviathan posters. How incredible.
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>>135884554
>american "coffee"
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First build posted after this post is good.
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>>135884554
yeah we know already what are you having next?
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guys does weapon effect skill damage?
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So, I'm pretty outdated with the news but I remember kToS implemented trade for premium members only, or some bullshit of this kind. Is this still a thing? Will iToS have the same crappy money grab tactics?
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>>135884192
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0zZVh5sdwZ6
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I like pretending to be a villain and having minions do all my work for me. Is there a class I would enjoy in this game?
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/ja6o8th469/
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>>135884423
Did you buy for your neet friends too?
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>>135884918
Sorcerer into Necromancer.

1 Big boss summon from Sorcerer.
Multiple medium to small army sizes from necromancer.
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>>135884660
do you know where you are?
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>>135884843
Probably no trade for anyone
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As a hybrid cleric is using a mace really the best option? or is it better to have a magical rod/staff for when you cast magical based attacks and switch for every spell?
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>>135884945
>friends
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>>135884806
>>135884918
no
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>>135884778
i think i still have some anime candy left
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>>135885037
Not on /a/, but even for /a/ it would be surprising to see anyone post Sengoku Collection, which wasn't particularly popular even when it aired. Just like how surprising it was to see Leviathan posted here. I'm not being negative about it, it's just surprising.
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>>135884943
Whoa?! H-he's good...
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Do you think there will be any way to get to ET as cataphract and actually clear it? I want to make use of that hoglan but not sure how.
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>>135885092
maybe
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>>135884843
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/update-clarification-on-the-founders-pack-and-servers/152613

Bottom of that post mentions we'll be getting an announcement about 1:1 trading sometime soon since it's Monday morning in Korea.
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>>135883652
Yeah, here was the first one.
http://strawpoll.me/7126058/r
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mmmm coffee
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>>135884858
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0zZVh5sdwZ6
this turns me on
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>>135885336
no
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>>135885389
There's more $10 people than I thought there would be.
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>>135884945
Yeah, friends. Right.
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>>135885092

Clerics can't use rods/staves
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>>135884858
Moar.
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>>135885710
they only polish them
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>>135885667
I'll be your friend, Anon. We'll go dungeon crawling together and share the loot.
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>>135885710
Clerics can use Rods, but not Staves.
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>>135884026
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>>135885513
>>135885726
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0XKaQ0q0sQg
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Admit that you're a piece of shit and I will give you a good build.
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Where the fuck is my info about Hackapell.
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>>135886027
you're a piece of shit, now give me a bad build.
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>>135886027
you're a piece of shit

now give a good build
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>>135886027
You are a piece of shit, senpai, now recommend me cata build.
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>Really like the idea of muscle mage
>See Thaum
>"OH MAN THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT"
>These fucking effects

Jesus lord couldn't they have made it so they added glowy runes or whatever, not fucking big hands/head mode? I'll actually feel offended in parties with fucking thaumaturges.
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>>135886027
You're a piece of shit. Now give me any build.
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>>135885971
man, stop this
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>>135886027
I'm a piece of shit, keep your shitty builds.
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>>135886245
They are pretty useful, so i dont mind silly effect.
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>>135886027
You're a piece of good, now give me a shit build.
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does anyone here play a high level paladin on kToS? like 250 or above?

I been looking for conversion videos to see how effective it is with the high end content, but I can't seem to find anything above 200.
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I miss icbt1
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How is Hunter in Coreeuh?
I remember Barrage and Spiral being the only two skills that really had any power and the others were just high SP cost potatoes.
Bounce Shot was OKish too.
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>Still no news about Centurion bein a hidden class

I should abandone all hope.
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>>135886105
>>135886151
>>135886184
>>135886279
>>135886357
>>135886456
Here you go.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2117bbb7.1a4a5a.11243a4a55.3a4f5a6585
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>>135886326
power of GOD of Thunder
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>>135886523
Really? Why?
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>>135886560
I definitely meant to type Ranger.
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i didn't play icbt2 very long, only up to about 100 or so. at around what level do people generally reach rank 7 at?
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>>135886523
>Esteria

rip
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>>135886785
223 224 225
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>>135886869
thanks
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I like all those people going only Physical Link 4, you're forgetting we'll getting 10 man content any day now.
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>>135886245
>The same minds that made everyone who wants to PVP put shit on their head

Dunno, I kinda like it.
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>>135886328
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qlLhyidWk8
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>>135887139
Getting higher Phys link is a bad choice of future proofing, when we get that 10man content I bet people will be popping skill resets errywhere.
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>>135885971
>>135887368
>>135884192
>>135884858
Voices of autism
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>>135886560
Ranger is taken mostly for buff.
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what is the cutest costume of all?
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>>135887559
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0aKi9vAAlTZ
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cryo3/chrono3 0-2
dragoon on feet 3-5
dragoon on hoglan 6-8
memebowman 9
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>>135887980
Is that you, Nyanners?

>Lolipa is an actual loli

That's lewd. Lolipantsu?

Lolipan a cute.
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>>135888195
No it's actually Karga
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>>135887980
You sound like a guy you need to have a good party with.
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>>135831458
>>135837216
Melk Silversmith, you have been identified. Congratulations on hiding from me for so long; I declare you champion Waldo.

I'm identified on the secret version that only exists on my hard drive but I left a piece uncovered so you'll all know it was really done if you ever find me.
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>>135888081
Why tosg hates Sadhu
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>>135888385
Because its bad?
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>>135888385
designated shitty class
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>>135888513
>>135888551

NO, WHY
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>that guy is going to play as a girl character
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>>135888641
?
xD
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>>135888621
There was a video with high level sadhu with some ok gear and full int dealing like 3k damage on 1 hit with autos. Its shit.
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What is a good class for ultimate cuck experience?
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>>135888350

Actually, you're wrong. I know "me" and it's not that.
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does QS mix well with fletcher?
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>>135888739
cryolinker? idk
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>>135888641
>>135888712
Of course I will, I want to show my faggotry.
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>>135888621
>>135888385
Because back on iCBT1/2 they were basically doing ridiculous damage with the little combo with little stopping them save mobs that could knock through safety zone.
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>>135888739
Alchemist
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>>135888739
Wiz3/linker2/something/something
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>>135888730
Define high level, ok gear.
3k per hit? It hits 9k each auto!
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>>135888739
highlander2/rodelero3/templar
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>>135889023
Ask for video and check yourself.
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>>135888385
We just don't want people rolling our class.
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>>135888385
it got nerfed from being beyond broken so now obviously it's unplayable shit

welcome to the fotm babies
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>>135888739
Fencer.
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>>135888350
Is it bad if I've no clue who these people are?
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>these sapper buffs

thanks IMC
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About Fletcher SP consumption (from last thread):

You can't even sustain your singletarget rotation with level 10 pots. We need a third round of SP cost reductions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xtkQ8OWA9Q
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>>135888808
What? How?
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>>135889583

I played on Laima too anon.
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>>135886326
Don't summon more BRs, lad
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>>135889661
don't level the skills to max then, or get a diev to lower your mana consumption, or don't spam your skills
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>>135889661
How about getting some points in SPR?
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>>135890140
>don't level the skills to max then
>don't spam your skills
Why play Fletcher then?
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>>135890187
>3k SP
hmm
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>>135889661
Maybe stop spamming everything like a retard? 0 CD doesn't mean you have to mash buttons like a madman
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>>135888739
If anyone here makes a Sadhu, I'll make you famous.
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Is 109ms bad for ToS?
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>>135890373
you adapt to the game, the game doesn't adapt to you
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>tfw could be playing this game tomorrow night but instead poorfags ruined everything
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>>135886465
I don't think anyone does
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>>135890752
Yes
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>>135890752
It's a very good ping to play already. Could be better, obviously, but it's better than what 80% of people will play with
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How is this class build? I know nothing about Hunter, how good/10 is each of 3 circles?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31122bbb
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>>135889776
Furthermore, from 2:45:44 to 2:46:00 in the video Silversmith moves around and goes to that position in the house.

https://youtu.be/ZpyUpUhMZT4?t=2h45m40s
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Sneaky
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>>135890752
No
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>>135890752
That's really good, you're lucky
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So can we play yet or do people dropping dosh seriously have to wait another whole week?
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>>135886523
I see brs there
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>>135886523
>missing a couple days of every fucking map being full to the brim, having to compete for quest mobs and objects and not even reaching rank 5 after all the struggle
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>>135890975
oh shit, that's real
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>>135891081
MORE THAN A WEEK !!

haha
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Hi Christine, I love you
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Apparantly the $10 buy in doesn't even give you enough nexon coins to buy anything, is this true? Is it literally just buying into the game?
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>>135891157
Must have sucked not being ahead of the pack!
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>>135891349
Wait and pray that they lower the price of a Token to just enough to buy with 160 TP.

If they don't, then I'm not bothering with the founder server.
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>>135891081
It's an MMORPG, of course it's going to put the client out long before the servers go up.
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>>135889661
>3k sp
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How is this game anyways?
People on /v/ sound polarized, they either say beta was boring and it killed it for them, or that the game is exactly was they expected and they had a great time.

I'm okay with Korea style grind, I'm not an ignorant cunt with impossible mmo standards. I used to play a lot of Trickster. Would I like this game?
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>>135891349
You can get more character slots.
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>>135888319
>WELL COME STEP INTO THE RING
Autism is a requirement if you're going full support/templar, but I don't go full suffering with Cryo3/Pelt-Squire.
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>>135891452
What the fuck? That's why you get only 160TP - you are very close to 198 but you still don't have enough, so they want you to pay for a 30$ pack
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>>135891349
>not enough to buy anything
it's enough for a reset, some hairstyles, revives and what not

it's not enough for a token, which most of the people want

it'd be actually stupid if it gave a token, because then NO ONE would want a token the first month, you need to have plebs with silver to buy tokens from rich players
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>>135891638
I had a lot of fun, 200 hrs
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>>135891745
I KNOW THAT'S WHAT SCHLOMO WANTS, BUT LET ME BELIEVE IN HOPE ANON
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Opinions on this
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#211134hf.14213f44516a7585.11253544.15253441.1525334151.1525334151
or this
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#211133hf.14213f44516a7585.11253a4965.1525334151.1525334151
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>>135891638
It's a fun game /v/ just hates video games.
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>>135891638
It's Free2Play after 1 month, you'll be able to try it yourself.

This is /tosg/, we've obviously biased towards the game. I'd just tell you to be careful with /v/ "opinions". When you press the people for details, they'll usually say they played for a couple of hours and then dropped it entirely.

Shiny new MMO game hopper's opinion is literally irrelevant. They're never happy.
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>>135891927
It won't happen, it would immediately kill the market since everyone would have a Token
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>>135890752
You shouldn't play fast attacking classes and you might want to skip Archer entirely.
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>>135891638
/v/ opinion is shit
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does Discerning Eye, Pandemic and Incinerate work with / apply with ally debuffs or just my own?

Can I be a Scholar in this game?
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>>135891638

>Korea style grind

Do you like hand holding quest leveling? Do you like instanced dungeons?
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>>135891638
I played kcbt and icbt. Didn't touch kobt. Still not really ready to give up on the game but I'm not very hopeful either. It has some great ideas and concepts but also some really really bad problems.
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>>135890941

Check the original picture with the names, and then check the video. Look at cosmic dust and there are less people on the pic than on that video.
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>>135890927
ask lolopanther
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>>135892158
So caster?

Also thanks everyone else for the replys.
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>>135892694
That is my plan, but she's not here. I expected her to show up and help me after just seeing Hunter mentioned.
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>>135891995
>/v/ just hates video games

It's sad because it's true.
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>Reading through the generals
>See screenshot of different panty styles

Is that real? That single handedly blew out any chance of me playing a male character.
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>>135891985
What are you hitting those icewalls with on that second build?
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Reposting, give feedback please.


Swordsman:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11.1123354551
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111.11213a4a516572
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111.11213b4f516a7185

Highlander:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#12.15243541
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#122.11233a41557585
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1222.213f41657a8a93

Peltasta:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#13.15243541
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#133.16263a415463
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1333.16263f415561758195

Hoplite:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#14.15243541
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#144.19283a415171
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1444.1b2b3f41516571

Barbarian:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#16.1595b5
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#166.55659aa5b5
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1666.5a6a819daab1

Cataphract:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#17.152535
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#177.152a3a55
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1777.112e3f5a65

Rodelero:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1a.253575
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1aa.2a3a517485
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1aaa.2d3f51658a91

Corsair:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#18.11253475
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#188.112831557a85
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1888.1123315a7f8a95

Squire:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1b.15243145
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1bb.1a31495565
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1bbb.1f31495a6a

Doppelsoeldner:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#19.15243155
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#199.1a315a637383

Fencer:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1e.24354571
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1ee.112a38456571

Centurion:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1c.15213145516181
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1cc.1a213145a1618195

Dragoon:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1f.15243541

Templar:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1g.152135

Shinobi:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1d.1325314155
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>>135892034
Well yeah I usually discard the haarsh negatives because that's just /v/. I was more here to ask why hose of you who like it, like it. What's good about it, how worth its it
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>>135892940
no. its shoops.

IMC did not yet add them. cant wait for that day... soon
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>>135892819
>she
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>>135893140
I don't get what the fuck are you trying to do there
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>>135892940
>>135893212
it should be pretty easy to mod client-side
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>>135892991
Party wise.
Aw man, I've posted similar builds like 3 times, everyone tells me something different and I end up like I don't know what to do with my life.
But it's the first build good? I want to be a Warlock but I don't want mementalist path and Rune Caster looks cool
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>>135891041
>mfw 34ms
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>They never actually been to Lithuania
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>>135892512
I like video games. Instances are cool. Neither here nor there on quests, I just do them all no matter what. As long as the game isn't broken or pay to win I usually enjoy myself. I was hoping this game had involved party play and at least moderately challenging skill rotations. I haven't played a top down where my class felt important in a long time.
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>>135891452
>>135891795
What's a token?
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>>135893306
TOS Mods when
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>>135893471
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>>135893540
This.
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Will the faggot shitters in the forums keep complaining to change everything they don't like in the game until next week?
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>>135893354
>Party wise.
One thing is having party synergy, the other is to completely rely on other people


>But it's the first build good?
I don't know :D but cryo psycho rune seems to be the meme build of the moment, so why not?
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>>135893306
it's not anymore
they blocked the IPF files
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>>135891041
>>135893432

Where do you see ping?
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>>135890927
You didn't even fill out the skills, bro.

There are no glaring incompatibilities so I suppose it's fine. Hunter is well worth it at all circles.

What do you intend to do with it?

>>135892819
I am always lurking.

>>135893181
ToS is not a major breakway from modern MMOs. It's also not the savior of the MMO genre, as people were expecting.

It's a nice little niche game that's hot interesting mechanics. At the very least, it's worth trying out if you're looking for an MMO to play.
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>>135891668

>181 spr

Duuuuude.
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>>135893915
Go to command prompt
type ping 54.88.25.242
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>>135890752
>>135893432
get on my level
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>>135893432
>mfw 33ms

get shit on
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Reminder that this game will be socially unplayable.
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>>135894001
I'm guessing you'll be spending a shitload of sp on those buffs as a support char
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>>135894269
why reddit doesn't bully br? is it because they're br?
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>>135894235
good morning
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>>135893989
I want to play Fletcher and have a pet.
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>>135894340

125 for the 50% resist is fine.
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/v/ told me this game bad. prove not bad?
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>>135894525
is bad
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>>135894401
Yeah, I got one of the most downvoted posts of all time on that subreddit because I said that Brazilians need to have their own server. Half the subreddit is BR.
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>>135894235
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>>135894583
oh no
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Is it even possible to level solo with support oriented builds like this one
>>135891668

or are you pretty much restricted to grouping?

Also any experienced people know if the Paladin class is worth taking to c3 or if it's mostly just filler? Always been drawn to paladin classes
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>>135894456
>using that argument when, as you're playing support, you could have a PD/orc on your party for free
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>>135894439
Hunter has very low cooldowns, so my honest opinion is that it's better paired with classes with large cooldowns. However, your build isn't bad.
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>>135894431
selamat pagi
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195 ms :^), see you in game my international friends
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>>135894718
yes. game bad
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>>135894269
>maybe with a tunnel we can go as low as 50s

Where it says 50s, I think he meant 50ms.
Where it says tunnel, I think he meant wormhole.

BR education in a nutshell.
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0-4 buy neet friend founders pack
5-9 drop all contact with him
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>>135894859
>mfw huemonkeys dig a tunnel to the servers
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>>135895023
>and steal them
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>>135894770
Thanks. Can you tell me more about skills?
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>>135894005
how's my ping? :^)
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>>135884026

After being fired for getting raped by Hogmas and losing a fucking necklace, the powerless security guard started her life anew as the homeless security guard, not having any outfit to wear other than her old job's.

Eventually while digging through the trash trying to find crack money, she's found an old, mossy synthesizer and whored her way into getting mixing lessons, eventually becoming one of the most popular* DJ's in Klaipeda.

*this is the fucking medieval age Lithuania so there weren't any other DJs around, hence the title.
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>>135895231
>moving to Virginia just to play TOS
I admire your dedication.
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>>135895231
Pretty shit tbpf
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>>135895512
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>>135894001
That's 1:1 CON/SPR, the extra stats are just from gear.
I should have left SPR at ~125 and pumped CON more, but at that point the game just felt easy and iToS was on the horizon, so I didn't bother.

>>135894340
JP every 15s along with Pass burns through your SP quickly, but nothing SP pots couldn't fix.
Not having to use them was a nice bonus.

>>135894721
With the exception of places like Mage Tower, Pyrolinker can solo anything.
With the recent changes to Linker though (especially Knot duration), it'll be harder.

Pal3's Barrier is much sought after in endgame content like ET, you go 3 circles or not at all.
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>>135894005
>>135895231
Too bad during the iCBT2 I had over 400ms.
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is the last one true?
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>>135895927
>>135895512
>>135884026
Shes so cute. I'd give that poor Girl a place to live.

>Player Houses when
>Dating NPCs when
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>>135895512
>>135895927
Even to this day, her back is still bent. Sasuga Maggi.
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>>135896154
Absolutely.
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>>135895126
>and move them to hueland so they have a lower ping
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>>135896154
No
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Is the build of king a invented meme or it does really work?
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>>135896154

Yes. In Brazil you'll be shot on sight for mentioning 7-1. Pretty sure several BR soccer players have been assaulted and even killed for losing important games.

If 7-1 doesn't work, you're essentially meeting what is the 1% of Brazil. In which case, mentioning Dilma will send them into a blind rage.
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>>135888350
>I got namedropped
Why and how
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>>135896292
Spotted the BR
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>>135896023
>With the exception of places like Mage Tower, Pyrolinker can solo anything.
How far did you get?
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>>135896154
Kickball is the only good thing they have, so yes.
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>>135896180
>>135896209
public meat toilet
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So what's everyone playing while waiting for the NA servers to open next week?

Need something to fill this void in my life.
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>>135896535
Playing Neverwinter Nights 2, testing Weapon Master Scythe build here.

Fun as fuck.
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>>135896535
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>>135896292
7-1, BR.
Get mad.
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>>135896343
Haven't you seen it in action? What could be more powerful than this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZTzoobeLmU&feature=youtu.be

It''s the ultimate build.
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>>135896535

kToS :^)
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>>135896667
>>135896406

>NT plays like shit through all cup
>gets wrecked by an actual good team

Wow, what a surprise. Most were expecting the NT to lose, but not this badly. It was a good cup desu
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>>135895147
I have no idea about Fletcher, so I'll just comment on Hunter.

Hounding is the best anti-archer skill. Using it gives your pet a buff. When the buff is active, and a cloaked/hidden target is within its visual range, it'll drop whatever the fuck it's doing and chase that motherfucker. To the other side of the map if it has to, like a heat seeking missile. Once it touches the target, it kills whatever stealth it has.

Coursing is pretty good. Do not work on bosses and it can be resisted with Dispellers, but it's pretty much fire-and-forget. When there's an elite monster, have the pet Course it and just forget about it. I have never ever seen it resisted by SPR so I doubt you can resist it that way. People cannot do anything while Coursed, except use consumables. I wouldn't put more than 2 or 3 points in it because, even at the lowest duration, it's more than long enough to kill stuff. After the target dies, you cannot order the pet until the full duration expired, which is another reason you do not want to put too many points in it.

Rush Dog is the bread and butter. 5 second cooldown, decent damage, capable of AoE and 50% stun chance. Whenever you're not giving single target commands to monsters, you should spam Rush Dog. Just keep and eye on your SP.

Prohint. And this is actually really fucking neat: If you're a Scout, you can Rushdog spam while Cloaked and it does not reveal you.
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>>135896535
kTOS
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>>135896154
Yes
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>>135896535
the new fire emblem but it's bad
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>>135897157
Is this Mia?
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>>135897084

Retrieve is like Coursing, but it constantly pull the target towards you. It has lower duration and a more expensive attribute, but you can use it to disable people inside Safety Zone and pull them out of it. Needs many points for a decent duration.

Praise is okay. Max level 5 even at higher circles. I always get 5 points in it but it's not really necessary.

Snatching is the ultimate anti-flying monster skill. When you use it, the pet will walk to point blank range of the target. It'll do the bite animation and apply a Damage over Time debuff over a small AoE area around the pet, only on flying monsters. The targets will take very strong DoT. The pet is not stuck during the period, so you can order it do other things during its duration.

I haven't tried Pointing since they reworked it. From what someone mentioned in the thread, it gives the pet a buff. What the buff does is apply a damage debuff to all targets around the pet with the Pointing effect. Might be worth trying.

I would not recommend running any build with Hunter as a starting character. Because pets do not get quest EXP, they're left behind very easily and will die to monsters all the time, which is annoying. Please get at least a level 120 pet first and then start your Hunter.
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>>135897271
I'm playing that too.

Conquest is fantastic though.
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>>135896535
One Piece Treasure Cruise
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>>135896717
Is that wiz3 cryo pyro psycho rune?
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>>135896486
Its possible but slow. i did often in iCBT2 at 200
they added a 1 hour time limit to dungeons in like january
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>>135895565
I live in NC, have 20 ms
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>>135897341
What pets can a hunter actually use?
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>>135897495
Yes.
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>>135897518
So you don't know how good it is in current endgame content?
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Is the Swordsman tree still any good? I've heard a lot about buffs and changes for the other classes, especially archer and wizard, but what are the biggest changes for swordsman that people should know about?
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>>135896023
>With the exception of places like Mage Tower, Pyrolinker can solo anything.
I had no problem there. The only time I got fucked was that room with Elets in the 190 dungeon.
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>>135897619
Nice. I will get Warlock instead of Pyro because cute.
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>>135896154
Wrong.

It would probably be in between of Militar Coup or the Workers party being anything but perfect.
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>>135897615
Any non-flying ones. Velhider and Hoglan, but also some rare pets such as the Panda and t he Hamster.

The flying pets are Falconer exclusive. That's the Hawk only currently, but we know from datamining that stuff like Owls will be added as well.

If you're a Falconer, you can have both types of pets out at the same time. However, the Hunter skills will do nothing to the Falconer pet. It only works on ground pets.
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>>135897704
could do a run this week. but that dungeon is so boring. and im a lot higher now.

not sure if Pyrolinker can do it in time when near the monsters lvl. solo runs have not much point anyways. party finder exp bonus is so good, and ofc faster
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/cdmmej8d80/
I've seen this build in here, seems pretty good, any way to improve it? I've thought of going cleric/priest/diev/cleric/monk 3 instead though.
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>>135897809
>wl
>cute

malewhore and prostitute
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>>135897994
yes
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>>135897775
Indeed. They are the reason why the 190 is so shitty. take so long to solo
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>>135896535

Get a girlfriend and get her to play this cutesy korean meme with you.
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>>135898292

I'm going to make [GM]MANGO into my girlfriend! Just wait and see!
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>>135897742
It's now the shittiest tree.
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>>135897809

this tbqh
>>135898016

I'm still waiting for the finished drawing, drawfag-kun.
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>>135898292
b-but what if I am the girlfriend?
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>>135898679
stop ban evading cattle
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>>135897742
Skyliner and cyclone got nerfed
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do we have a steam group
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>>135898438

GM_Mango is as dead as Tuppin.

She "went missing" after daring to speak out against IMC's money grubbing schemes.
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>>135898828
fuck off normies !
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>135897084
>>135897341
Hmm, I think I'll wait with this until my 3rd character, to get a Hamster.
Thanks a lot though.
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>>135898861

NO!
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>>135898772

>cyclone

What the fuck, how?
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>>135898016
>>135898614
Is build of kings full int or something like 3 int 1 spr? Or 3 int 1 con?
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>>135898958
+0.2 duration per level, it used to be +0.5
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>>135896535
FFXIII that I got for free that /v/ told me from the promotional last week.
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>>135898438
Mango is a whore!
Julie is the new hotness.
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>>135898861
>She "went missing" after daring to speak out against IMC's money grubbing schemes.
kek. Is that true?
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>>135899096

Welp. IMC hates swordies, that class is dead now.
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>>135899129

Don't talk about my GMFU like that!
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>>135899075
Dude in the video is literally 100% INT. He showed his stats in a different vid. 0 CON.
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>>135898679

Then it's your lucky day becuase you're officially my /tosg/irlfriend now.

Roll Cleric and meet me in Klaipeda on the 29th.
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>>135899267
Is it CB2 archer tier or are some parts of it salvageable?
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>>135899448
alright. but it's a long way to april 29th
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>>135899171
ofc

>>135899129
>Julie is the new hotness.
no. shes just a powerless lying whore
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>>135898958
>>135899096
Patch notes where
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>>135899948
datamined from iToS client, not on kToS(yet?)
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>>135899267
iCuck

Will never happen in ktos
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Why does Pommel Beat exist, exactly?
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>>135900223
*Why does every skill outside of Pain Barrier, Restrain exist, exactly?
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>>135900223
Supposedly they expect you to auto attack with Restrain and pommel beat when they're stunned. The problem is that it's just bad damage.
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>>135899267
>not playing a class just because it got nerfed
Pleb, I'll go Doppelc2 because it looks fun and nothing you say will stop me!


>>135899948
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/skyliner-nerf-return-of-cd-cyclone-lasting-time-reduced/145346

Someone datamined it from steam files
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>>135897341
Oh, how many points into Snatching? Does the DoT scale with skill level?
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>>135900478
>>135900676
It's sad because they can all be fixed by just increasing the base damage.

It's as simple as that.
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>>135900159
Sendlinkplease
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>>135900746
Yes, higher skill levels do more damage and have higher duration. I'd put max points in, it's THAT good.

>>135900710
Doppel is alright, but I wish they made the C2 skills better. People mostly only get more points for the C1 skills.

>>135900823
Many things on this game are great on paper but actually bad in game. Swordsman is definitely one of the classes that need to be revisited.
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>>135900823
Or make it scaling like most skill in archer tree
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>>135900823
Lots of things can be fixed if they made abilities scale better. It's annoying how nearly every non-utility skill becomes almost useless later on.
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>>135901060
I'll give you Zornhau, but Zucken sounds strong enough if you have Crown/Zornhau on decent levels, Redel hits multiple times too
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I'm a little confused about how AoE attack ratio works. Does getting it high enough allow things like magic missile to hit more than one target, or does it only work on specific skills or what? I've seen the video of circling+snipe but is that just a weird edge case?
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>>135901229
It's the whole point; higher class or circle, not leveled skills get ouclassed.
The problem is when a high circle skill is crap, like Doppel2
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>>135901431
It adds an additional target to the number of targets it can hit.
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>>135899129

Julie has already been driven over the edge by IMC.

Do you really wat a yandere GMfu who would prbably track you down by IP and stab you to death if you so much as sent a "Like" to another girl.
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>>135901229

Man, it's so fucking dumb that most abilities have no real scaling when the ability for them to have scaling exists. Musketeer (and Canonner) abilities ALL have scaling, why the fuck can't they just do this with every ability in the game?

Man, it's so fucking dumb how they just haven't done this yet. It'd fix half of the balancing problems in the game.
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>>135900710
please share build
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Quick question about Founder's server.
Let's say I'm over hyped and decide to buy the "DLC" so I can play ASAP. Let's say one of my friends decides to wait till april 28th. In the description they talk about "Founder's server" and "Free to play server"
Will those be two different servers? Will free to play players be able to join me on the Founder's server after the 30 day period ends?
Also, what do the tokens do?
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>>135901590

I would marry a girl like that.
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>>135901767
The server still vague as fuck, better wait
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>>135901767
>>>/google/
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>>135901767
hi rebbit
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>>135900823
>>135901060
>>135901204
Swordsman will definitely get buffed soon right? I'm not crazy to think of going Sword3 right?
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>>135901861

>girl
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>>135901767
F2p can join you on founders server "founders server" is just the first server that's going to be open. Tokens give -20% market tax, + movespeed, ability to sell +4 items on the market, +1 buff slot, +2 dungeon runs/day, and +30% xp gain I think.
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>>135901767
>Will those be two different servers? Will free to play players be able to join me on the Founder's server after the 30 day period ends?
they will add new servers. but Founder Server is open to everyone

>Token
is a item to get VIP Premium 1st Class Citizen Membership
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>>135902040

Everyone in ToS is a girl!
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>>135902037
Shinobi can replicate only swordsman skills and it's own skills so swordsman 3 is still good if you want to do that, plus restrain and pain barrier are probably the best PvP options in those early circles.
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I heard around icbt2 that melee classes become overshadowed by magic and ranged in late game. Is that true?
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>>135901692
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2117bbb7.1a4a5a.112a3a4455.4f5a6585
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>>135902310
is shinobi actually any good?

im not who you have responded to. Ive not been paying attention to swordie stuff, only wizard stuff, but being able to swordsman3memebuild has a certain appeal to it.

How does one shinobi?
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ToS community sure went to shit fast. I remember during the iCBT days discussion was at least intelligent.

People who complained about 3 month headstart should die.

People who complained about IMC turning the open beta announcement into Early Access should die.

People who complained about the price after the unnecessary poll should die.

People complaining about yuropoor server should die.

People complaining about scrolls that can stat hats up to three times should die.

All of you unsufferable faggots, go choke on a dick a break your neck on it.
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>>135902683
Kill yourself retard
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>>135902683

Let's die together anon!
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>>135902425
>#2117
Every time.
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>>135902310
>Shinobi can replicate only swordsman skills
I'm not sure if it will stay like that forever. It states that only Kunai is supposed to be able to be used by clones. I don't trust IMC.
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>>135902143
>>135902310
Bunshins use Swordsmen skills. The C3 Swordie skill is garbage but if suddenly there's 6 of you slashing at the same time then it's actually really good.
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>>135896535
Im watching SAO. I feel like a disgusting piece of shit. But just like when i finally watched naruto after mocking it on 4chan for years.. i kind of like it
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>>135903383
Both SAO seasons are enjoyable during the first half of each.
It's a guilty pleasure.
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>>135902683
agree with everything but the first and third point
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>>135903383
It's ok anon. I watched Konosuba and was faced with the fact that I unironically enjoy the escapist MMO anime genre. We can have shit taste together.
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>>135902778

>t. Autentist the Autist
>>
What should I name my guild?

Does Cockroach cucks sound good?
>>
What if IMC really want to cater non-casualfag in global? This the only reason I can think with their itos change
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>>135903736
>not Cuckroaches
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>>135903736
Cuck Crushers would be better
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>>135902425
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2117bbb7.1a4a5a.112a3a4455.4f5a6585

which one is the real Max AOE DPS Wizzard???
that or https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2117bbb7.1a4a5a.11243a4a55.3a4f5a6585
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>>135903856
>someone actually noticed I fucked up
You're right, good job making memes real, anon
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>>135884026
You should just delete kTOS timer next thread.
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>>135892442
>>135892442
>>135892442
>>135892442
>>135892442
does no one know yet?
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>12 builds
Send help.
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>>135904282
Of course it works. Like everything in the Cleric tree.
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>>135904282
Lurk more before asking stupid questions
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>>135902391
pls respond
I just want to play a fencer without being useless
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>>135904595
barb c3
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>>135904454
I am sure they're all garbage anyway.

Just play whatever you think is cuter and you'll be fine.
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>>135904595
Sword Pelt3 Something (maybe Corsair because money) Fencer2
There.
Your job is now to pull monsters and stab them. Enjoy.
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/tosg/. Teach how to become a Healslut.
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>>135904764
>>135904876
cheers
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>>135905261
cute slut dude
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is it the 29 yet?
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>>135905261
>bend over
>suck dicks
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>>135905508
ya get on
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>>135905261
Cleric Priest3 Chaplain Cleric2 Plague.
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>>135905261
Cleric C3 Priest C3 PlagDoc for tons of instant heals.
Or Krivis C3 Paladin C3 for AoE HoT healer.
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>>135905653
>Krivis C3 Paladin C3
trash
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>>135905743
>le ignorant EOP meme
ugh
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>>135903573

But Konosuba is actually good.
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>>135902683
you are the cancer killing mmo's
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>>135896535
Started playing PoE again. That way if this game turns out to be shit I'll just scoff at it and turn back to PoE immediately.
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costumes
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>>135903573
Please don't try to pretend Konosuba is generic, a MMO on top of it.
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>>135906980
But PoE is shit anon
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>>135907049
It is shit, but at least it's not korean P2W grindfest shit.
And I still get to look at my Templar's gorgeous legs all the time.
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>>135907049
>implying ToS wouldnt be infinitely more fun with PoE mechanics
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>>135907253
>not Witch's feet
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>>135907001
Its extremely generic. I don't know how people enjoy that show so much. Its a boring but relatable premis with no story substance and overly quirky characters. Its tacky and I hate it.
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>>135907538
t. jaded chinese cartoon expert
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>>135907371
The feet are nice, but her legs are shitty and your taste for legs is objectively shitty if you prefer those meatless chopsticks over the Templar's well-toned, juicy legs.
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RIP Tumblr. For what it's worth, it was a funny ride.
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>>135896535
playing shadowverse cbt, unfortunately my phone is shit so it takes about an hour to just finish a practice match
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>>135906005
Explain
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I played during both iCBT tests, I genuinely enjoy this game but have no idea whats changed build wise, or how the $30 package differs from the $50.

Is blessing melee priest still a thing or is the whole cleric tree just straight healslut now
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>>135905653
aukuras + restoration is cute
but aukuras is a fucking 2 minute cooldown and it's stationary, only works in very specific situations.
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>>135902113
Remember to buy your game pass!
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>>135907645
I detect an underage that started watching anime last summer.
Fuck off, konosuba isn't special in the least. There literally is no story or development of any kind. Everyone in the show is a one trick pony. You have shit taste kid.
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>>135905632
>Cleric 2
>not Oracle
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>>135907672
emulator? I was about to start playing that
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>>135907939

You can hardly go wrong by picking any Cleric build now. Except Sadhu maybe.
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>>135908030
Do we get the new emotes in iTOS?
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>>135908180
What's wrong with Sadhu? It looked like such a cool class with lots of mobility and some CC to top it.
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>>135907294
GGG and IMC collaboration when? Path of Savior.
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>>135908048
you are an idiot
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>>135907737

Explain what?
KonoSuba is a comedy anime and it's funny
there's nothing to explain
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>>135908048
>watching anime
>calling others 'kid'
lmao
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>>135903686
I hate that Autentist little shit on the forums. Wish that motherfucker would die
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what does a featherfoot actually do? everyone is going warlock, how do you make a good featherfoot build?
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>>135908516
Tree of Exile sounds better.
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>>135908516
The perfect fusion of two developer cultures that can't code stable shit for shit.
10/10 would 2fps desync crash again
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>>135908115
i don't know about that, but if you have an android you can try sneaking in by downloading the apk somewhere
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P7P-z6Gxqo

>fletcher gameplay
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>>135908678
I'm so glad you are butthurt enough to post this in this general. Keep this up.
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>>135908678

Everyone in the forums should die
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>>135908787
Not to mention the only viable builds will be Int builds.
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>>135908968
>t. Autentist the Autist
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All these newfags pretending to be iCBTfags.

Thread was exactly like this: full of people asking dumb questions and posting and asking about builds.
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>>135909029
Correct, dumbfuck.
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>>135908180
>except sadhu
you mean Bokor
as good as mackangdal may be, 2 or even 3 circles just for that is plain suicide
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>>135908991
everyone in here should die too, except me and you
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>>135905632
I thought people wanted Clerics that could also provide DPS? Or did that change?
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How to damage with Cleric tree without huge cooldowns?
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Is it possible to play a smiter priest? I like swinging out holy spells.
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>>135909137
Fuck off Autist
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>>135909407
Do your research.
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>>135909335
>Still giving me unnecessary attention in this general

>>135909451
You first.
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>>135909335
Are we going to epicly raid this guy now? I can't wait, /b/
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>>135909513
Ok Autentist the Autist
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>>135909497
I want to do it together with you.
>>
the forums say that a hat costs a million USD
we must protest!
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>>135909137
nobody likes you faggot. die
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>>135908427
the token emotes, yea
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>>135909753
Okay, anon.
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>>135909415
build for basic attack
cleric>priest3>chaplain>whatever>memedoctor

>>135909432
cleric has a lot of good multihit spells under it's archetype, cure, zaibas, owl statue, carnivory, incineration building classes with those spells ain't a bad idea. Just consider they're not good at hitting multiple enemies. They're not all holy, but probably what you are looking for.
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>>135903383
you can also watch grimgar of fantasy and ash, which is also pretty good if you're in the mood for a similar theme

think i'll rewatch .hack//sign to see if it aged well
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x36lzwx
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>>135909874 (Triggered Autentist)
>>when the hyper-autistic cancerous shitposting hits just right
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>>135910219
Okay, anon, whatever you think is right.
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>>135910139
I watched Sign recently. I was pleasantly surprised.
>>135910219
Stop shitposting
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>>135909914
>build for basic attack
>cleric>priest3>chaplain>whatever>memedoctor

Full STR?
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>>135910378 (Triggered Autentist)
>>their whole world comes crashing down
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>>135910394
INT/SPR
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>>135910394
yes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cbTqHt2GbA
Is this a doppel?
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>>135910598
good video
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>>135910394
>>135910538
>>135910558
I've seen one, dealing shit damage beyond Sadhu level.
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>>135910598
It's a templar
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>>135910598
a Doppel Templar
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>>135910598
Swordsman.
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rate my fashion cleric wizard build please

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/1ud4qmwum1/
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>>135910378
FUCK OFF RUSKIE
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>>135910903
very solid
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>>135910849
So, a Doppler?
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>>135910903
looks good

>>135911016
wizard
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>>135910903
>no Oracle
try again
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Do you think Autentist drops subtle memes when talking IRL?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTGPYVpKEKQ
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>>135911514
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How good is Freezing Sphere? should I level them over Electrocute? Haven't played Wizard much.
also rate pls https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbf.1f233a4151657585.1e213f58617185.153545
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>>135911561
>rune
?????
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>>135910849
>>135910769
Which one is cuter, templar or fencer costume?
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>>135912178
Templar
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>>135911561
Is he about the only guy left in the guild?
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>>135911197
oracle doesn't have damaging skills
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>>135912386
Something I realized when looking at Simony skills is that once rank 10 comes out it'll be possible to make Arcane Energy scrolls for 30 minutes of +45% max Sp and +65 SP, but just imagine the suffering of going through Pardoner 3 and Oracle 3 in order to do that; absolutely no damaging skills after rank 4 besides Indulgentia.
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>>135912178
male Templar
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>>135912871
they will release class reset scrolls soon enough.
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>>135911672
good
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>>135913151
What makes you say that?
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>>135912871
at that point in time you'll probably have a lvl 450 pet or something like that to carry your crafters/supports and a bunch of team levels to level up faster if you're a normie you might have friends, or become a multiboxer selling support characters for $1000 usd
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>hue civil war
>meanwhile IMC CEO
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>>135892665
>>135896395
Here's cosmicdust turned around. There's some minor character position errors, but I think there was some kToS patch note about lag and positioning. HoneyBingo is to our right of Hiraku in the screenshot and to our left of her the whole time in the video, confirming positions can be off. The barrel disappears if your graphics settings are turned low.

Guilty as charged, Melk Silversmith.
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So I've got to ask, is this game worth picking up or is it just as generic as most other mmos?
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>>135913642
Is both generic and worth picking up.
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>>135913642
yes.
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>naming yourself autentist
inb4 butthurt reply
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I just want to be the Kirito.
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>>135913308
i don't think a class reset is feasible. the database probably won't keep track of the order of your chosen circles so replacing a R2 class with a R6 class could be possible if allowed. unless he meant both classes+skills simultaneously, then i would ask what the fuck is the point of leveling with any class but the most optimal one and paying money to switch classes and save ass loads of time.
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>>135913151
Will never happen. Force them to grind from level 1 is more profitable
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>>135914193
> the database probably won't keep track of the order of your chosen circles

It literally does, including the exact date and time you took a class advancement.
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>>135914372
I can see class reset scrolls that reset your last rank, costing like 25 dollars.
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>>135914470
if it does, then i retract my previous statement. thank you for that.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31338999.154555.1a2a65.152545.1f314f61738a

Rogue viable? Can be played like this?
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What's the answer, /tosg/?

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/what-is-the-minimum-for-characters-letters-numbers-etc-used-to-create-a-name-for-your-toon/153030
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>>135914713
Looks good to me.
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Any user xml guide for toaster?
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>>135911514
He's not wrong you know.
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>>135915293
He is though :^)
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>>135915293
>>135915472
Someone post the true version.
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>>135915293
>using meme arrows outside of 4chan
>posting a meme image on a social networking site
>agreeing with meme images
could one autist be any more wrong?
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>>135915293
>t. Autentist the Autist
>>
Can't decide between some combination leading up to Paladin C3 or Chrono C3

They both offer great support, but which is better for times when I might have to or want to solo?
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>>135915293
FUCK OFF RUSKIE SHITTER
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>>135916058
chrono solo is plain suffering
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>>135909335
>I don't like whining
>Autentist

kek
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>>135915472
>>135915584
>>135915662
>>135915945
>>135916104
#triggered
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>>135915945
what does t. mean
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>>135916058
Paladin with some STR and Conversion might be able to solo pretty comfortably later on. Chrono depends on your build. Pyro2 Linker is probably enough to last 7 ranks, not sure about Cryo.
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>>135916149
Not really, if you go pyrolinker.
If you go full futureproof Cryo3 then yes, you'll want to kill yourself.
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>>135916292
>I was only pretending to be autistic
t. Autentist the Autist
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>>135915662
>>135915293
the autist is wrong
but the meme image is 100% correct
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>>135914713
good
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>>135916332
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>135916332
t. Redditor
>>
Is this the new evil we must face?
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>>135916712
yes
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>>135916418
I thought going pyrolinker meant having to give up Chrono3, does it not?

>>135916380
What would be an ideal Paladin build? Something like Cleric2>Diev2>Pal3?
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>>135916919
yes
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What's a good pyro linker build?
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>>135916919
Pyro2Linker or PyroLinker2, pick your poison, then Chrono3 afterwards.
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>>135917061
Wiz Pyro2 Linker Thaum2 Featherfoot
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So when you pick a new class you keep the skills of your old one? that's pretty neat.
>>
I bet he is the one who spoonfeeds all this shit.
He is like feeding birds and then they shit here.
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>tfw you spend whole day answering every retarded question
>everyday
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>>135916919
>What would be an ideal Paladin build?
honestly make up your own, if you want the meme build it's cleric2>diev>pal3>memedoctor

But I strongly suggest to look at what you like and pick accordingly, stop copying builds based on popularity, because shit changes literally every week and what seems OP as fuck can become lackluster in as short as 7 days. Like everyone right now is telling you to pick Diev because it's the second coming of jesus christ, but no one is telling that shit is bugged, it doesn't lower your cooldowns the way it's supposed to, you have to cast a spell 2 times for the stupid buff statue to actually lower your cooldown, and who knows when they'll fix it. Plague doctor is too ridiculous, no way it'll remain unaffected forever, a lot of good classes are being ignored because PD is way too good to not take it right now, probably the moment rank 8 gets implemented it will get a considerable rebalance and make it more fair compared to the rest of the classes.

And don't make your first character full support and shit like that if you don't have a static group or some faggot who loves you, you'll hate the game when you can't do anything by yourself up till cap (you can spam party requests to strangers, but still I don't reccomend it).
>>
TOKEN
O
K
E
N

What's that? Tell me tell me pls token? pls tell me what does it do
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>>135914713
>Rogue
hows this work? Deploy pavis distracts enemies so you can crit them from behind? Ive never seen anyone advocate qs2 in a build before.
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>>135917736
Thanks for the info

>And don't make your first character full support and shit like that if you don't have a static group or some faggot who loves you, you'll hate the game when you can't do anything by yourself up till cap (you can spam party requests to strangers, but still I don't reccomend it).

That is the kind of shit that I needed to know
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>>135917938
It's a cash shop item for being a premium user.
It enables direct trade, increases EXP% and dungeon runs per day.
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Just started looking into this game.
How important are dedicated healers?
Is it like WoW where you need one, or GW2 where you just avoid the damage and support is secondary at best.
Second, are healers useful in pvp? What classes are good for pvp
Also, anyone have a video of some challenging high level content?
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>>135917938
Token is Hitler incarnate.
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>>135918441
>FOR BEING A PREMIUM USER
WRONG
YOU HAVE TO BUY IT OR ONE OF THE FOUNDER PACKS THAT COMES WITH IT

>>135918531
not important
neither, it's extreme convenience
yes, plague/oracle
no, look up Earth Tower
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>>135918531
Yes.
>>
limited dungeon runs per day has got to be the most communistic chinky shit to ever put in an rpg
>>
>tfw no longer have to save scrolls to get out of demon prison sooner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZRm1WsvMws
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>>135918531
all clerics are able to heal some and the consensus is that some is enough. so having healers is important, but as long as they have taken a couple ranks of cleric its good to go

pvp is meme in this game dont worry about it. If you want to play a cleric and want to be good at pvp just make sure you take plague doctor at rank7. You can make your party immune from basically all forms of cc
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>>135918727
>WRONG
shh
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>>135915256
Change bit per pixel to 16
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>>135918758
Fuck off. No one cares about your youtube shit.
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I have a question for build,

1. Is it Chrono3 or never? Chrono1 is a waste and Chrono2 is a must because of the haste. C3 Pass is a great skill but without VoIP or communication, the skill is a waste. Thought?

2. Linker. Is C1 enough? I heard spiritual chain is unreliable because it share buff randomly. Is hangman knot weak now after the nerf?
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>>135919041
calm down butthole not like this general is moving super fast
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>>135918758
>come back 4 months later
>this faggot is still posting his progress and character as if anyone cares
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>>135919072
Chrono3 or bust.
Linker got nerfed, but even C1 is a huge help in dungeon runs.
Spiritual Chain is limited in what it can share, you get Linker2 for more JP targets and Knot duration.
Knot is a lot weaker, but is still good. If you feel confident that you can farm a Dandel Gem, stick to Linker1.
>>
So if I buy the $10 pack do I get to play right now?
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>>135919072
>the skill is a waste. Thought?
i dont see why people think that.

Just use it on cooldown, it will still hit all the really powerful long cooldown skills people have. If they want to micromanage their skill usable to get benifit on shorter cooldown stuff then let them work it out with your consistent rythm of using it every cooldown.
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>>135919550
Yes, do you want to party with me?
I just finished the first Orsha map, but I can wait for you.
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>>135919383
>>135919041

why are you this upset? the game will be out in a week don't worry
>>
So is there a limit on how many dungeons you can do each day? What are you supposed to do after you reach the limit?
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is Cryo3 Kino 3 hard to level? it seems to be like one of the best if not the best pvp build, it has a buttload of CC, it's ridiculous.
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>>135919262
>hating bignasty
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>>135919550
29th
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>>135919550
yes
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>>135919832
continue leveling in new zones? grind for some money? chill with friends?

fuck off back to wow
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>>135919859
Bloodletting.
>>
working on builds is fun too bad i cant figure out a fun looking wizard build besides something with cryo
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What's the drop rate on those monster gems that improve your skills? I never saw one in ICBT2, are they still crazy rare and untradeable?
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>>135919665
I don't even know what that means. I still have to download the game anyway.
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>>135920029
They're supposed to be rare, people have played like 3 months in kToS and found 1

And yet I found 3 during iCBT2, 2 where of the same kind even, I played like 80-100 hours.
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>>135920029
They were tradable in iCBT2. Still is but you can no longer remove the gem. It will get destroyed.
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>>135920258
It's just a prank, bro. Servers open on the 29th, see you then.
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>>135920242
Dead class. Dead thighs.
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>>135920503
we still have the thighs anon, we still have the thighs
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>>135918727
>look up Earth Tower
So is this supposed to be the challenging high level content? Because all I see is stacking mobs and spamming dps. It's like guild wars 2 but easier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NGawfWPQDk
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>>135920863
theres no endgame content, theres only leveling. rerolling multiple characters is the endgame
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>>135920984
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>>135920863
>1st floor
oh yeah man it's not even a tower, that's as hard as it gets
kys
>>
I never got the chance to play in any of the betas, but checked out some of the classes and skills,

Would this be an effective build?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1114488f.1a3a4a.152a3a75.1a4a5575.13253542

I've been reading around that swordsman classes have gotten hit with a few nerfs but as long as I can still level effectively, I don't mind
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>>135921149
This game is still in pre-alpha.
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>>135920863

>So is this supposed to be the challenging high level content?
>Posts a video of people failing to do it

What?
>>
>>135921316
Sword1 Hop3 so you can spam Spear Throw.
>>
>All i wanted to do was be a super tank Paladin
>split stats between Con and Str
>/vg/ demands only STR pallys, support role
>i will never get to be at the brunt of battle, disseminating damage and debuffing enemies while my bros AoE them down
>ill be in the back corner, recasting the same party buffs and healbotting

It wasn't supposed to be this way
THERE WAS VARIETY NOW
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>>135921301
>>135921368
How the fuck would I know anything about the dungeon considering I've never played it and it's in some gook language.
I'm guessing this is a harder part of that dungeon, still looks like some easymode stacking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2AD5uF3Ho
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>>135921683
Who gives a shit what /vg/ wants? Play it how you want to play, anon.
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>>135921740
>tower
>how the fuck would I know there's more than 1 floor
come the fuck on
also, from what I know no one has been able to beat floor 6, but maybe someone has by now
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>>135921740
>it's easy
>posts a video of them failing floor fucking 1
>WELL I MEANT IT LOOKS EASY
>FUCKING GOOKS
Since when did /pol/ find the time to play video games
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>>135921740
There are 20 floors and nobody has made it past floor 6, so it's challenging at least.

You can see people on floor 5 need VoIP :^)
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>>135921740
Don't think any group has gotten passed floor 7 yet.

There are 25 floors.

Since you are so elite MMORPG master veteran, go hit 8+ and let us know, thanks.
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>>135921934
>being this triggered
lol it's a video game calm down.
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>>135898614
>drawfag

oh you were still waiting?
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>>135921975
>>135922009
>20, 25
>6, 7

w-well which is it?
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>>135922009

I like your comment. We need more people to shit on MMORPG master veterans with their Sword 3 Peltasta 3 futureproof buids.
>>
Is Chronomancer useful now?
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>>135921740
This is the strategy people are using but it just doesn't work. Either IMC overtuned the monsters on purpose while they work on other content or people need to think outside the cookie cutter DPS builds a bit. I think Hunter's growling could be alright for dealing with the mass monster spawns but maybe I'm dumb.
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>>135922023
You aren't even projecting right /pol/, jesus
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>>135920271
i found 2 in icbt2 with 500 hours
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>>135921934
>>135921975
>>135922009
I like how you all decide to use insults instead of try to argue the fact that they are just stacking on top of each other and spamming aoe. GW2 got shit for everything being a stacking dps fest but at least you had to dodge occasionally in that game. Also making it impossible to do simply because the current classes can't put out enough dps doesn't make it "challenging".
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Doesn't cryokino isa monk shit mean bosses melt instantly and whatnot? How can kTOS not have cleared the dungeon?

Are they exponential level of strong to avoid people clearing content like pandemonium warden?
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>>135922087
>no bulge
gay

>>135922095
>20/25
not gonna make it there anytime soon, so it doesn't matter
>6/7
probably 7

>>135922158
look up chronomancer changes

>>135922206
>it's looks easy so it must be easy
pretty fucking retarded opinion tbqhwu fampai
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>>135920984

ERP is the primary focus of the game, it begins at level 1 and never ends.
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>>135922095
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVZV8CBsIk0

floor 6 clear
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The challenge of mmos should be not killing yourself during the grind.
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The challenge of mmos should be not killing yourself during the grind.
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>>135910598
The difference between this and an actual dps build is quite striking. Like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVpzlb8swI
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>>135922330
Bosses arent the problem. High level trash taking too long to kill and wiping you is the problem
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>>135922356
I wish there was a Hirame-illustrated MMO
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>>135922169
no you're sort of right
people have been speccing for massive DPS to deal with the huge damage sponges, and forgot there's utility skills that would help you in sitations where ridiculous dps or stupid amounts of HP won't solve your problems.

Gooks aren't as MLG as people think, there isn't a large enough playerbase to have every posible combination available and being played constantly by the hardcore community, not to mention getting to that kind of content takes time and releveling some utility class just to fit the ET meta isn't fun at all.
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Floor 7 wipe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de_UuKpb2N0

>>135922206
Don't be a fucking idiot.
Obviously these stacking strategies are working out great for us considering nobody has actually cleared the dungeon.

We need better party compositions, skill builds, and players.
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>>135922206
You made a bland, extremely uninformed argument, then called the korean language "gook", for i guess added effect? ( you can still see the dungeon without having to read a single line of text)

And you want us to stop using insults for your aforementioned retardation?

You're like that Gawker guy, who just says the stupidest shit in court, then tries to downplay it when Hulksters lawyer starts smashing him on it
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how pay2win is this?
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>>135922530
>swordsman is underpowered

KEK
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>>135922330
Because there are waves and waves of the monsters. Not just a single boss. Sure you can probably kill one wave with Isad Ice Wall if you didnt get interrupted during the setting up. But what do you do after that?
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>>135922697
ohboyherewego
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>>135922697
nominal to average, depending on your outlook of +EXP tokens
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>>135922708
only icbtfag believe fencer is shit anyway
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Is going full DEX just a meme?
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>>135922384
That cleric's build is weird, he has Fade, M defense, Zaibas, and Stone skin on the same skillbar. That means he's a Cleric 2, Krivis, Pardoner, Priest 3. A bona-fide Korean Lolipantsu.
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>>135922586
I haven't seen a floor 7 clear yet. Unfortunately I don't really understand what the objective to the floor is so I can't really follow what's going on in the video.
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>>135921683
Cleric classes have so many sources of inmunity; Safety zone, Ausrine statue, Mackangdal, Sterea Trofh, Counter Spell removes magical shit, stone skin blocks most physical shit.

So yes you can be a fucking beacon and get beaten down and receive literally no damage, boosting your CON to ridiculous levels is somewhat inneficient but you can do it if you want since heals are %based.

Advice given here is usually based on optimized shit, you'll sort of take longer to kill stuff if you split STR/CON equally but no one will kick you out of their group or anything.

The thing is Swordsman gets like 4x the beneffit from CON, while cleric gets like 1.7x the effect from CON, most players just take enough CON to survive about 3 hits from high end mobs.
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>>135923139
Alright so what's the absolutely worthless classes in this game?
The stuff that you should avoid at all costs.
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>>135923129
That's a full support build you dumbass. Maybe the Pardoner circle is a bit weird but still serve a purpose.
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>>135923302

Rodelero.
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So which male class you guys think that would be the easiest for me to coerce into having steamy gay sex with?

And which class you think is the most hung? Not counting female sorcerer please because everyone know futa demon magic is cheating.
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Has anyone tried using a Russian VPN to activate a Russian founder's pack? Does it fuck your account's shit up or make you use the VPN to play?
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Is that 100-125 SPR thing for debuff resistance used for PvP only or does it have use in PvE as well? I'm looking for an excuse to build a bit of spirit to support some buffs.
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>>135923706
Squire, easily.

Most hung, Paladin.
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>>135923791
You save money by not needing Dispellers as much. Pretty pointless if you have a PD in party though.
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>>135923929
>most hung
>Paladin
You mean Thaum with Swell Benis
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what build is the best at farming the ideal gems/items for itself?
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>>135924232
oracle
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The Moa DPS race seems to be a pretty popular way to judge burst dps classes. Haven't seen many wizard/cleric tree players post videos though...

Swordsman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-VPLEI5Qrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=der-CV_QV0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NObthpYXjJ0
Archer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJbmIw5OX7I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs2PIFtYxzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tmWVGbDv6M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4LRvOdcsBM
Wizard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlmGK8Ko_oE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4VW4jnjg-s ??
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>>135923719
It won't fuck you, but having logged in from a country 10 000 miles away will flag your account, if they notice you purchased shit and suddenly never logged in from that location again they can lock your account or ban it.

The safest is to do it in a new account, and gift it to your main account, but if it ends up being investigated there's a chance your main acc could get flagged for review as well.

If you really can't afford it in your local currency I suggest making a new account altogether and playing from that, if it gets locked at least you won't lose anything important,
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Who here is going Quarrel for the first character ?
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>>135924572
I'm a contrarian at heart so I will play archer but not the popular build.
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>>135924157
>>135923929

Ohh my! There's so many options for me to have disgusting gax sex with!
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>>135924563
>not linking fencer >>135922530

Also, what's the reason for not many clerics? Zaibas + Carnivory would be one of the fastest, if not the fastest burst. Monk would be pretty fast as well.
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>>135919428
>>135919578
Thanks, you guys help me a lot.
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>>135924563
That first wizard one looks pretty cool. What class build is that?
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>>135923302
Rodelero.
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>>135922087
I can't wait until this is finished. We hadn't gotten new stuff in so long.
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>>135924563
This is a pretty good method for comparing DPS. I like it.
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>>135924692
I want literal ERP faggots to go
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>>135925276
Wizard3 Linker1 Sorcerer1 Necro1
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How much SPR do my fellow memetalists get? Was thinking like 50 but is that enough? I don't really know just how SP negative i's going to be at max level if you take Warlock for R7.
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>>135894783
>>135894235
man you're right there with aussieland for being in the network latency boonies.

I don't envy you lad.
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>>135924563
The AA wizard is painful to watch
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wiz 3 ele 3 Warlock

or

cryo 3 chrono 3 ?

I'm interested in both pve and pvp
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A 0 byte patch.
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Whats the most flashy looking Wizard class (spell wise)
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>>135926317
It really is. People have said that a rank or two in pyro will make a support build bearable, but that... I'm not sure what to think of that.
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>>135926461
Build of Kings.
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What stats should I focus on for a Druid build that uses Krivis3? I've never played and I wanna build a dps/support Druid.
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>>135926342
Wiz3, Ele3, War is primarily a PvE build. Warlock is all about killing loads of trash and then sic'ing their spirits to deal damage for you. Cryo3, Chrono3 is going to be wanted for everything but is going to be alot bigger on PvP than the other build you mentioned. Freeze is amazing CC for PvP whenever your opponent doesn't have a Plague Doc and Chrono is going to be in super high demand for everything
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>>135926317
>>135926480
I went that exact build in icbt2
it's only barely playable if you have the patience to sit through 10 minute boss fights with nothing but kiting and AAs
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>>135926648
Thanks for the detailed reply. One last question. Were there any changes regarding Cryo spells? I remember c1 and c2 being super crappy and the snow rolling being the only good skill. Also super high cds and low damage output compared to pyro.
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>>135926342
If you go Cryo3 Chrono3 you will need a group for everything. Shouldn't have much trouble finding one though, Chrono3 is pretty much what Linker was in iCBT2 as far as demand goes.
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>>135926678
the Chrono build makes me think, I am playing with >200ms ping, the atk speed buff will be useless for me. Since I want to make Chrono3 during EA.
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>>135926527
what is that?
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>>135926639
Krivis 3 + Druid 2 is very strong, I'd suggest INT and CON at a 3:1 ratio
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What's a good path up to Sorcerer?
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>>135926916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZTzoobeLmU

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/0ody35e1it/
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>>135926984
Linker and sorc2 is a must
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>>135926954
Alright thanks. That was what I was planning on doing since shooting lightning and killer grass seems fun.
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>>135923017
>>135922530
How strong is this boss actually though, defense-wise? And are fencers a sort of glass cannon class?
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>>135925884

Don't worry anon, I promise I won't do filthy gax things in public!
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>>135926885
Cryo3 Chrono3 is a pretty popular build in Korea, can't really go wrong with it. You just have to know what you are getting yourself into.
Cryo does a bit more damage than it used to, but it's still far from great. Going Chrono3 ontop of it pretty much forces you to go all out support. Damage wise the most you will be able to do is support people with Ice Walls that people can hit while their skills are on CD and trying to solo stuff will take years.

If you want to do DPS with Cryo you pick up a circle in Psycho (for Psychic Pressure on Ice Walls) and Rune Master (For Rune of Ice, +300% dmg for Ice skills).
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>>135926393
s-spooky
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so 1 circle in Sadhu is all I need to have awesome auto attacks as an INT cleric right?
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>>135927107

jesus, what was that charge + pulse blast combo?
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>tfw I normally like swordsman type classes, but am afraid to make one again because of the swordsman are shit meme
I somewhat enjoyed Sword>Barb>Corsair in CBT2 and was planning on some kind of Hoplite/Dragoon class, but I don't know now.
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>>135927731
Hi.
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>>135926984
I'd probably do something like Pyro->Linker->Linker->Sorc->Sorc->Sorc or Necro

If you take Sorc at all you need 2 circles in it for your summons to not be uncontrollable garbage. C3 gets you some familiar damage that's pretty good, but you could also pick up Necro or War for some personal direct DPS instead of it.
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>>135927823
Hi anon!
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>>135927725
Kamehameha
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anyone not using their korean account? I wanna play this and have it downloaded but fucking have to have my account verified
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>>135927725
1. cast fireballs
2. trap the fireball with icewall
3. cast Psychic Pressure
4. watch boss melt
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>>135927731
Swordsmen are not shit. That's a dumb meme we created so less people roll swordsmen and more people roll other classes since too many people were rolling swordsmen.

The general consensus is actually that Doppel C2, Dragoon, and Fencer C2 are all powerful in their own right and not underpowered at all.
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>>135927208
Are you a pitcher or a catcher? Also are you cute in a skirt? A-Asking for my gax friend of course!
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http://steamspy.com/app/452430

Does steamspy not track DLC sales?
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>>135928012
Fuck you.
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>>135928036

My positions in gaxeries are as varied as my good looks in both guy and gal clothes! In other words I'm both. And, yes. And, Your gax friend has good taste in questions!
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Going quarrel and Fletcher

not taking stone shot/pick

how bad will i get diked ?
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Never played this game so this might be shit but I was thinking cleric1 priest3 pardoner2 and plaguedoctor1 would be good for a pvp build. The priest would provide strong healing and revive (can you use revive in pvp?) as well as physical defense and block. Pardoner would provide status cure and magical defense. And plague doctor for more status immunity and healing. I figure this build would provide insane tanking/healing/cc immunity for the whole team as well as reviving. Thoughts?
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>>135893140

Pelt3 should consider L6 high guard for the umbras or just the block value.
Its one of the few reasons for the 3rd circle other than L15 swash.
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>>135928532
That's what I'm going.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222aae.152535.1b213f445a617191a1.15213a5589.2531435561
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>>135928481
stone shot is for pvp, QS still allows you to move and shoot which is pretty strong

you'll be fucked regardless if you don't have a PD in your team and the oposing team does, or a chrono.
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>>135928532
If you want to completely cockblock Wizards better pick Oracle. But Pardoner is good for Discerning Evil.
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>>135927731
I'm with you on this anon. I don't even know anymore if Skyliner nerf is real or it's just a meme.

No mention of it on kTOS patch note but I certainly don't wanna roll Highlander 2 just to find that out with my first character.
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2 squires are gonna be the team to clear ET also a wizard with lvl 15 earthquake
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>>135928735
Oh yeah counter spell seems pretty strong. Does it work on targeted wizard spells or just ground aoe's?
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>Increases the number of beneficial effects for you and your party members

what the fuck? So how many buffs are you allowed to have by default?
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>>135928532
Incineration + discerning evil is pretty strong as well, you can proliferate it after you extend it too.
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>>135929146
Default buff limit is 5 lol
Daino is pretty much required in party play, it's stupid.
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>>135929146
not sure how it is in iTOS but in kTOS

Cleric and Swordsman: 7 default + 1 from attribute that can be learnt at rank 5 + 1 from token

Archer and Wizard: 5 default + 1 from attribute that can be learnt at rank 5 + 1 from token
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>>135929328
I thought they removed the token exclusive buff slots?
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>>135925946
>Sorc1

Does that work without the controlling abilities in C2?
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>>135929328
>>135929227
That's fucking obcene
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I been trying to brainstorm builds that use Melstis, but I just can't seem to find a reason to ever go balls deep into krivis just to take that.
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>>135929663
There is absolutely no reason. Not when it's a channeling skill with shitty range.
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The $10 option on steam lets you play a month early right? It's not something stupid like being able to play on a P2W server for a month in april right?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsrZVTgusr0
Feint + Barrage seems like a pretty popular skill combination, as is Multishot + Circling. Doing both seems pretty solid.
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>>135929795
Yes, one month early. 3/29
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>>135929663
OP with an organized party not useful for single player use
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I'm gonna be able to buy into early access AFTER it starts, right? No gay shit like you can't buy in once the founder server opens?
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>>135929653
The good thing is Pardoner's can make scrolls of the Daino skill that you can buy to be able to cast it, so you don't always need a Krivis if you're willing to shell out the silver.
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>>135929795
no, buying $10 only lets you into the low tier founder server
$30 gets into the mid tier founder server and $50 gets into the high tier founder server
each one is exclusive and has a permanent buy-in
F2P will be next month
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>>135929418
it is not recommended, need atleast C2 for the summons to work.
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>>135929936
no
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>>135929936
Don't listen to his lies
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>>135927340
Oh man. Thank you again. Going Chrono will be a pain.
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>>135929876
>OP with an organized party
Tell me what's the OP shit that you can extend with Melstis
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Haven't played this game since english CBT1 when Highlander/Barb was OP. I know it got nerfed into the ground, so what's a good swordsman build more oriented around dealing damage?

I was thinking some kinda of Corsair/Shinobi build.
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What are shops? Specifically, what is the spell shop that pardoners have?
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>>135930135

yes
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I'm torn between Dragoon and Fencer2

this guy
>>135922530
seems to be using Highlander, but I really don't understand why you would choose that over Barb..

I've not played the game yet so I don't know how all the skills work and how damage is calculated, but wouldn't a build like this one be much better for a fencer?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111666ee.11213a4a5563.5a6a91a9bf.11233a4a516471

You can attack fast to try to stun more and just use Cleave once you stun, and get Frenzy which seems like a no-brainer for a fencer seeing as how fast you attack with fencer skills.
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apart from memementalist and the build of kings, what else goes well with wizard3?

is kino3 a bad idea?
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>>135930353
Now that highlander's been nerfed, barb is probably better desu senpai
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>>135930003
>linker buffs
>chrono buffs
>running shot
get a dedicated kriv3 and linker3, enjoy the 100% steroid uptime
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>>135930003
I want to use that with centurions ginyu force 50% CDR and laima statue and chronomancers pass for permanent stat sharing from linker3 along with einsof and rune of giants.
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>>135930187
Pardoner spell shop lets you set up a stand at which players can pay you a price based on the level of the buff they're buying to receive that buff for an extended period of time. The spell has to be a spell that uses a reagent though, which restricts you solely to selling the Priest skills Sacrament, Blessing, and Aspersion as far as I'm aware.
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>>135930353
that build was catered for demolishing enemies weak to pierce. cross guard for piercing debuff when blocking, not sure if skull swing was used but was on the skillbar, attaque coquille for ignoring defense with pierce attacks, and plenty of piercing skills to spam afterwards. elemental dagger was also used to increase damage as well.
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kek
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Since Pied Piper isn't a thing yet. Is there any other class that could be considered a bard?
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>>135931171
Healsluts because they like blowing flutes.
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>>135930754
Alright is there an actual difference, then, between "Enemies become vulnerable to Pierce attacks" from Cross Guard and "The enemy's defense is ignored when attacked again with Pierce attacks" from Attack Coquille?

And is the Armor Break from Skull Swing worth taking over the 10 points in both Warcry and Frenzy?

Again, I wish I had a way to crunch the numbers on my own but I still feel like Barbarian C3 would be worth taking over Highlander C3
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>>135931243
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Is it true that steady aim is already getting nerfed or am I falling for the memes?
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>>135931256
from the vid you can see the debuff from cross guard and the debuff from attack coquille are visible. i assume they stack and are not the same debuff at least.

not sure about the other stuff since skills are better than others under different scenarios. i suppose it depends on what you're ultimately after.
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>>135931640
Reminder that we could be playing in two days if people didn't ruin everything!
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>>135932192
>people
subhuman poor fucking shit brazilians
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>>135928012
So It's build of kings a meme?
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Can someone explain to me why QuarrelQT is good now?
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>>135932409
The auto attack buff at C3 is broken OP
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>>135929810
damn can I even dream of having that sort of damage as a priest?

And i mean, not only the capability of dealing that much damage, but the amount of attacks she does in such short time, with all that mobility and what not, while all the cleric strong attacks are tied to ground tiles.
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r8 my suffering
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11244bbb.23334554.14253541.1a213a475171.1f3f41546a

Cross Guard + Spear Lunge + Hoplite skills to do damage.
Synchro Thrusting over Pierce because overheat and lower CD, and not total shit against small enemies.
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>>135932649
Zaibas 15 with Carnivory 10 do way more damage than any archer could dream of
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>>135932712
Can someone explain to me why shit like Squire is forced into your class and not just a secondary class? Do you really just have to sacrifice being relevant at all in terms of damage, in order to give people food and shit?
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>>135932712
make room for swashbuckling. you've given up individual ability to support others and swashbuckling is also a valuable support ability.
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>>135932756
how would you spec it?

cleric>krivis3>cleric2>druid2?
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http://www.tosbase.com/content/video/skills/31203.mp4

Is that crosshair manual aim or just an animation?
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>>135933390
Manual
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>>135933351
That sounds good. Maybe consider priest instead of cleric c2
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>>135932712
so with pardoner/squire/the other one, do you just suffer for however many hundred levels and then afk in town with your shop set up?

it's purely for making money right?
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>>135933130
because the idea was designed back when this was going to be a more traditional mmo and not another wow knockoff with a gimmick (visual style in this case)
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>>135933130
Someone has to be the Squire. I'd probably retire once I get to Rank 7 anyways. This build is just meant to be a quick route to Rank 7. With old Skyliner I'd just go Highlander C3 but they nerfed that.

>>135933620
Pretty much. I also kind of love the suffering for some reason.
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Was thinking of doing:
C1 Sword
C1 Peltasta
C2 Hoplite
C2 Squire
C1 Templar

For a Guildmaster/Support character. Is this good or should I just go super tank mode with Peltasta and cut out the Hoplite.
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>>135933841
Squire + Templar is just suffering2. You won't use the Squire skills to support your guild members anyway.

I don't see any reason whatsoever to make a Squire in this game at this point.
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>tfw you've reached a point in your life where you're actually considering dropping $10 of your hard earned cash to get into a mindless grinding sim a month early
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333bbb.354555.1e2e3a4166.1f2431455a6a

How much suffering will this cause me?
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>>135933841
Do corsair into templar for maximum guild support with jolly roger
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>>135933620
It's supposed to be for utility, not just money, and you're supposed to use your rank 8-10 classes to get damage. Things didn't go according to plan.
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>>135934029
Some people do it for the costume.
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>>135933841
That's already more than masochistic enough without dropping your only damage class.
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>>135934398
not enough, I've constructed a superior build that will inflict a much more concentrated amount of suffering
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333aag.354555.3f4f556a.1a557a85.154555
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>>135934552
>Things didn't go according to plan.
Are the rank 8-10 classes not out in Korea either?


Because I could totally understand suffering through ~100 levels for utility if you could then become good again but at this point in time, can't be bother with that
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>>135934552
More like they never plan anything. The only crafting class with a hint of utility is Pardoner. Alchemist might still be redeemable with C3. Squire is hopeless.
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>>135934684
We're going to be getting what Korea had last week or so.
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>>135934771
>tfw I rolled pelt 3 squire 2 during icbt2
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>>135934398
good choice of skills for peltasta, maybe tweak the levels a bit
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Is the pet from the 50$ founders pack actually useful?
Trying to decide between that and the 30$ one. I never spent money on a companion during beta. Do I have to spend more silver to feed them and stuff so they are useful or can I just have them out 24/7 without putting any resources into them and enjoy the higher exp gain from the bigger team?
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>>135935287
pets were kinda shit.I had a Hoglan in icbt2 and it sucked monkey ass.
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>>135935287
24/7
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>>135934398
Soloing will be excruciatingly painful. In parties you won't do jackshit except provide repairs in dungeons.

I've done this before and its really abysmal. High guard + umbo would provide a nice attack boost but the 30cd is horrendous. Your best bet is to find a butt buddy to party with at all times and keep using umbo thrust on groups of enemies to help weaken them down.
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>>135935348
I take it you never leveled an alt with one
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>>135935456
>In parties you won't do jackshit

What about tanking? ;_;
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>>135935287
It's good for alts since your pet can be much higher level than your alt. Not so useful on your main unless you play a class that uses it. You can just leave them out and let them run around on the verge of death getting bitchslapped by everything and they'll be fine.
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>>135935503
When I lvld my alt I used my money on alch mana pots and spammed my skills instead of waiting for the shitty pet a.i. to attack mobs.

Sure it oneshotted everything <20 lvl but it still took time.
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>>135935531
Not only linkers but also other swordies who have swashbuckling and aren't pelt3s would take your job of mobbing.

You are literally useless in parties aside from providing free repairs because you'd be so ashamed they're hauling your useless ass across the dungeon.
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>>135935730
So all crafting classes suck ass.
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>>135935287
companion types have their own stat growth. hoglan in particular focuses on con and dex. if i wanted to raise a companion, a hoglan wouldn't be my first pick.
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>>135935820
Atleast alchs and pardoners get better pre-classes. Can you even imagine leveling a pelt 3.
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>>135935820
Except Pardoner.
And you can build Alchemist to be useful enough with the earlier ranks.
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How does the Pardoner donation thing work? Do they just keep anything anyone puts in the bucket?

Could RMT move merch that way?
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>>135935912
I can't see any worthwhile pardoner combo that helps the team at all.
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>>135935626
I can level my first character with 50$ hoglan and then give hoglan to alt?
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>>135935924
All they can do is vendor it npc-style. Fun times back when people kept putting Arde Daggers in the box.
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Can someone explain to me what the current endgame PvE content looks like?

Does it even make sense to play a PvE build?
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Can you have multiple companions? I heard they take up a party slot in your loge, right? So if I get the hoglan from founders and then later on want to make, let's say a falconer, would that be 2 character slots used up?
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>>135924563
Auto weapon swap on archers?
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>>135936091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwEeKE7vsng
Now fuck off to reddit
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>>135935981
Discerning Evil is OP as fuck and we just get more and more debuffs to use it with. Like Incineration. Extra damage debuff like Spear Lunge, Kabbalist's reduce Level could also work it. And who knows what else we'll get with more ranks. Magic Def is also good provided you build some SPR.
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Having not played any of the cbts, how shit is this?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4122bb55.152535.1a3a6595.1a2a3a.253a455565
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>>135936091
clear earth tower floors for end game loot. the better your pve build, the farther you're more likely to climb the tower and get better loot.
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>>135936215
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4122bb55.152535.1a3a6595.1a2a3a.253a455565
>c2 paladin
Didnt look further
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>>135936215
masterpiece
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>>135936215
you're a natural talent.
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>>135936286
So the tower is open end?

>>135936165
So did I get rused when people said pve content is casual?
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>>135934029
How are the support/crafting classes shit? I haven't been following the changes, but the weapon repair/enhance seemed good in the betas. What happened?
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>>135936215
really fucking love that skill distribution, it's god tier

>>135936380
leveling is casual if your build isn't shit
current endgame pvp is difficult, Earth Tower has something like 20/25 floors and the furthest anyone's got so far is 7
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>>135936380
It's casual until ET. And ET has just retarded design where for example dps swordies except for maybe dopel are kind of useless. People would rather have another meme3ele3 instead of noble warrior with a long spear.
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what rank 2 should i go on my dragoon?
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>>135936407
Its only good if you think of it as a support skill. As for money making, you have to deal with taxes.
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>>135936462
>pvp
meant pve
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>>135936021
Can anyone answer? I've never used companions, please, tell me.
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>>135936380
>So the tower is open end?
There might be an end, I think people found 24 floors in the dats? Nobody has reached anywhere close to that. At some point you just get overrun by hordes of increasingly difficult opponents and everyone that doesn't have important support or ridiculous AoE skills is worthless in it.
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>>135936407
The actual supporting aspect is fine it's just the leveling is slow and due to maxing a support class using up the last ranks available you're stuck with rank 1-4 skills forever if you take one so no Earth Tower for you.
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>>135936462
>furthest anyone's got so far is 7

gotta keep in mind, that the chinks are actually fucking terrible at mmos and it probably won't take more than a couple months for some guild in global to progress farther
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>>135936582
yes, you can move the pet to an alt within the same account
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>>135936661
Thank you.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134488d.11243555.15243541.152a3a75.1a557a85.14254155

Is it shit? I haven't had much experience with any of the betas. Wanted to do some sort of high damage Swordsman build for PvE, don't really care about PvP at all.
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>>135936802
Hokage tier build.
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>>135936802
>Is it shit?
Yes.
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>>135936802
>shinobi
corsair 3 is better
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>>135936802
I believe in you.
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>>135937008
I heard Dragoon might be a good replacement? Is that better than C3 Corsair?
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>>135937076
I imagine it would be
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>>135937076
Dragoon is fine, but I figured if you wanted to go corsair 2 you'd want to be using spear + dagger
but yeah if you're okay with weapon swapping a bit go ahead, you can use a two handed spear and one handed spear + dagger
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>>135936802
Can't comment on the Shinobi part, or whether different classes would be better options, but you only need a point or two in Jolly Roger. Consider taking some Iron Hook/Keelhauling for PvP and a point in Long Stride for jumping.

>>135937076
I've heard that Corsair C3 is pointless because Pistol Shot does no damage.
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>>135937076
i'd also drop peltasta for c3 hoplite, not worth using up a rank just to lure mobs when jolly roger flag can already do something similar
>>
Can't wait to see you shitters cry in the general about people with crappy builds that you endorsed.
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>>135937214
How do you drop peltasta for C3 hoplite? Peltasta/Swordsman/Highlander are the only rank 2 options?
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>>135936490
>>135936584
>>135936613
Non-kToS shitter here. How do you actually get Lolopanther gear from ET? Do the components drop from the mobs or do you get awarded on completing levels? Has anyone actually crafted some yet?
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>>135936319
>>135936353
>>135936462

Thanks I'll be sure to build that exact way and join end game parties.
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>>135937169
You can't use Dragoon skills with one handed spear + dagger?
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>>135937316
sorry, for highlander then for cross guard
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>>135937405
I assumed you couldn't but I just checked, you can
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>>135937320
you get Earth Tower Floor #number Box
Materials to get them are inside. probably more/better if higher floor

didnt saw any Lolopanther items ingame yet. and saw zero screenshots of players with them. if anyone has. he surely would show it off everywhere. probably takes long to get any.
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>>135935287
>Is the pet from the 50$ founders pack actually useful?

Normally pets were kind of useless for mains because by the time you could afford one, you massively overleveled it. Think about what having a pet from level 1 means then.

The TP cost is a good deal in the founders packs (i bought all 3), so dont buy one 'because of the pet'. The pet is a nice bonus though if you want to buy it for the TP.
>>
Is there a better Dragoon build than this?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449f.11354554.15213544.1e2e3f6171.154555.15253144
If so, I would like to compare
I would love to incorporate Corsair for the flag, but it just doesn't seem worth it over damage and Finestra and I could always just group with a Corsair.
>>
When can we probably expect Rank 8?
I don't like any of the current classes.
>>
>>135937720
pretty gud but Cata/Dragoon would've been better. Punish is shit, don't use it. drop more points on Spear Throw instead of Pierce.
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>>135937804
Rank 8 isn't going to fix that because you'll have to take 7 circles of classes you hate.
>>
Does Backmasking work now? What does it actually do?
When I fucked around with it in the beta it just crashed the zone and that was that.
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>>135938043
>Punish is shit
good to know, will dump it for the exp buff thing then probably.

>drop more points on Spear Throw instead
How come? I see that it's on a 0 cd but is it that good of a skill?

Also why Cata over Hoplite AND doppel? Seems like I would be missing out on some fantastic buffs and Cata doesn't bring any buffs to the table
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>>135938147
But at least there is motivation to level through these slog.
>>
hey guys is my build shit thanks
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4114448f.153a4a55.112d314f517a84.253541527191.153545
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>>135937804

That you have to pay for it.

Rank 8 will be cash shop only.
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>>135938475
Impressive
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>>135933841
The only thing weak about this would be lack of level 10 tent/food.
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>>135938475
Upboated.
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why does everyone say fencer sucks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVpzlb8swI

was it to discourage people from playing an OP class?
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>>135938475

Splendid

Can i steal?
>>
>>135938720
go right ahead
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>>135938710
teaching everyone fencer has a shitty playerbase.
>>
>>135938285
Cata brings speed and strike damage and also muh PvP minigame
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>>135938710

OHAIYO REDDIT-KUN
>>
>>135938710
Look senpai, as I said before swordsmen do not suck. That's a dumb meme we created so less people roll swordsmen and roll other classes instead since too many people were rolling swordsmen.

The general consensus is actually that Doppel C2, Dragoon, and Fencer C2 are all powerful in their own right and not underpowered at all.
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>>135938778
I don't care for pvp in a game like this
>>
>>135938864

Remember: always do the opposite of what /tosg/ says
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>>135938945
ignored
>>
>>135938710
They don't suck. But you need to check the enemy he's facing, its weakness, what weapon, and what skills he's using. And then imagine in a non-perfect situation (normal dungeoning) whether he can pull off the same thing.
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>>135938710
show me vids of fencers actually doing something in ET and then I will care, blowing up a shitty boss is something any class can do
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>>135939102
is ET gear bound? or can you buy it from the AH?
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>>135938475
>Heal 5
>max Samedi
>no fivecast
>>
>>135938710
t. reddit spy
>>
>>135939102
Ok tosg challenge time, how about post a build that can clear ET where the five of you function not as individuals but as a single unit with five moving parts.
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>>135939254
untradeable
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>>135939254
I doubt any of that is bound, even if it is you only get material and recipe drops and you could always sell those.
>>
>>135939419
The problem is that you only have a boss every 5 floors and those aren't really a problem, at least not the ones people posted videos of. What is a problem are the huge elite packs that will one shot a tank that you need to kill and cc before they get anything off so people just stack classes with important support/CC and memetalists for their AoE needs.
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>>135939315
>heal 5
isn't 5 enough for leveling?
>samedi
I didn't really think there was any benefit to bwa/damballa, are they better options?
>fivecast
forecast?
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>>135939440
>you only get material and recipe drops and you could always sell those.
what if they are >>135939426
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>>135939419
Pally3, some bigdick tank with 0 damage and a shitton of defense/hp, 3 aoe classes
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I heard skyliner got nerfed

so....Highlander3>hoplite2>dragoon is still a thing ?
>>
>>135939317
how can you know someone is a spy without being a spy yourself?
>>
>>135939419
is it you again weed-kun?
are you high right now?
>>
>>135939659
My reddit younger brother showed me a video today.
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>>135939619
gross
>>
if im going full on monk muscle mage what should my main stats be other then str?
>>
>>135939659
Accuse everyone of being a spy and see what they do.
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>>135939619
not optimal anymore. high1 gives you cross guard if you want that pierce damage boost, high3 gives skull swing. but there are better alternatives I think.
Sword Pelt Hop3 Doppel Dragoon maybe if I'm gonna make one.
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Wait, none of the fencer skills have an aoe attack ratio.

How do i kill large mobs quick?
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>>135939853
You don't. It's a boss killing class.
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>>135939853
you pick hoplite before fencer
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>>135939853
Get a linker.
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>>135939853
If I were to make a fencer, I'd be taking Barb for the aoe

but regardless, fencer shits the bed on aoe damage, not like it even makes sense that a fencer would excel at aoe.
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>>135939853
Take an AoE class beforehand, like barbarian
>>
Page 10 in case you guys didn't notice.
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>>135940295
n-no way...
>>
New thread where
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>>135940295
just let it die until the 28th
not like there's anything productive that comes out of this threads
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>>135940495
Pay up
>>
Cbt2 i was a cleric that had to spam 3 different types of buffs + debuff enemies to do heavy spike damage

is there any combo of cleric classes that make them burst like a wizard class?
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>>135940517
Hey just today we get some nice memes.
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>>135940572
cure, carnivory, zaibas, incinerate
those are the strongest damaging cleric spells, up to you on how to distribute them among the classes
>>
>>135940572
paladin and monk both have burst damage abilities
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>>135940627
Which memes?
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Barb has a good aoe is a meme, right? I looked skills and there is only Seism that looked good for aoe. Maybe Pouncing but damage looks like meh.
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>>135940793
barb is shit for AoE, if you want AoE go squire
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>>135940747
Fencer meme, skill simulator meme earlier. I think they have potential.
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>>135940838
ebin rebbit memer. Fuck off, spy.
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>>135939729
Yes, but I'm sober right now. I think I chanced upon a revelation while I was high. You are nothing but a cog in the killing machine that is your party. If you do not cooperate with flawless teamwork with complementing and synergizing builds you will never beat ET. Having said that how is this party?

Pure Tank
Sword -> Pelt2 -> Rodel2 -> Fencer -> CENTURION !

DPS Healer
Cleric2 -> Diev3 -> Druid2

Healer Healer
Cleric -> Priest2 ->Pala3 -> Kabbalist

DPS Linker
Wizard -> Pyro2 ->Linker3 ->Warlock

Full DPS
Archer -> Ranger3 -> Fletcher2 -> Musketeer

Each character maxes a different stat so your Umbilical Cord which is almost always up gives you all a fuckton of stats. Maybe this is too little damage? Also I'm not sure if there are many flying mobs in here that will make the Carnivory worthless. Feel free to smacktalk me.
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>>135939515
More heal tiles are always good.
Bwa is great damage. Samdiveve sucks.
Yes.
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>>135940870
t. reddit spy
you seem to have the wrong post.
here you go, >>135940793
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>>135940838
just stun the mobs and then cleave for overkills, it's not fucking rocket science
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>>135940793
Are you fucking retarded, holy shit.

CYCLONE, HELM CHOPPER, EMBOWEL.

LOOK AT THE AOE ATTACK RATIOS!!!
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>>135940949
>Cyclone
Are you even trying, senpai?
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>>135940793
get the fuck out already dipshit.
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>>135940918
updated, thanks
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4114448f.1a3a4753.112c314f516a7184.25354151617191.153545
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>>135940898

Centurian is real or just a meme? Pelt2/Rod2/Fen2 is one of the benchmarks for tanking.
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>>135941223
get the fuck in the new thread you cuteposting piece of shit
>>
is dex scaling still OP? for melee hits? are clerics still OP for divine might?
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