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MiGGER Edition.

Previous Thread: >>135560370

A thread for all simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/

>Thread trailer:
https://youtu.be/TEwmxye3Fkw [Embed]

>/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral

>/fsg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
Or whatever is on the group's profile

>BMS download links
https://mega.nz/#!0BlTkazA!VUwoKAzavtJ3qIUy7lEF8D8MFjbI_Si-r6nwC3wQZYQ
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/54569phfy8au7/BMS4.33_setup

>Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

>Silent Hunter 3 pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/jNSvhFfY

>Dangerous Waters pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/qvxk755r

>FPSchazly's Dangerous Waters tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOSvzqNmdX71x2COOyM-p2qHIpRNOvpGQ

>/dcsg/ music playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLGfGalIdY7AgadRWtOf0c6jagM4JVjN4

>OP pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/yXeNzrpg


>Example of welcome sims:
DCS World
Falcon BMS
Rise of Flight
IL-2
Combat Helo
Microsoft Flight Simulator
X-Plane
Euro truck sim
Assetto Corsa
rFactor 2
Live for Speed
SAM Simulator
Steel Beasts Pro
Steel Armor: Blaze of War
Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
Silent Hunter
Train Simulator
Farming Simulator 2015

>Example of non-welcome games:
Arma 3
Ace Combat
War Thunder
World of ____
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animaymay when edition?
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>>135845326
Never
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>>135844129
>>135844607
A B-1b module would be goat.
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>>135845164
>migger edition
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>>135845358
Anti-alias REEEEEEEEE
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>>135845404
No it wouldn't you retard. It's been said before but I say it again just for you. The maps are too small for geostrat bombing.
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>>135845627
B-1Bs are used for CAS in Syria.
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>>135845627
b-but they do cas
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xth for plane landings being too hard
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>>135845164
REMINDER, FLIR FIX HERE:
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2695668&postcount=1
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>>135845358
>Tfw no Erusean buddy
>Tfw no buddy to shoot down using Osea dog plane
We need someone rich and autistic enough to remake AC but realistically.
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We need more missions where we kill muslims.

Grozny bombing ops when?
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>>135846680
I've made a few missions completely replicated in DCS

They're so hard you just wanna kill yourself even in FC3 aircraft unless it's something simple like the bomber intercept missions
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The A-10C's message function opens me up to new avenues of shitposting
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>>135847054
Is it possible you can share them?

I don't care how hard they are, I wanna see if I I can pull it off.
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>>135848041
I'm considering making a pack, Glacial Skies (ACZ Mission 1) is fucking awesome in any aircraft, but once you're flying something like the Airliner escort from AC4 you're royally fucked

Until then try this http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1748869/ I know Zaku from elsewhere and he's a nitpicky about details as me
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>>135847054
What that other anon said, I wanna see them.
Also I imagine it'd be hard as fuck because SAMs in AC are pretty easy to dodge, not so much realistically.
Bunker Shot seems like it would be easy though.
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>>135845142

A-10C
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>>135848673
I'll make some more while I'm at it, any special requests?

So far I've made missions like

-Glacial Skies (ACZ M1)
-Imminent threat (AC4 M2)
-Escort (AC4 M11)
-Open War (AC5 M2)
-The Stage of Apocalypse (ACZ M12)

I suppose you could do much more difficult missions (and more A2G oriented ones) and make them pretty sweet
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>>135849194
How about one like the harbour attack in AC2?
If it's at all possible
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>>135848673
The one mission I would really like to see is Invincible Fleet, especially when the F/A-18 (ever) comes out.

Shit would be fun and impossible

>>135849194
.....Is it possible to recreate the Journey Home with a Mirage/or Su-33
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>>135849387
Also I'm not thinking of the mission with Choppers death, I'm actually thinking of Sea of Chaos. Granted Mission 17 sounds a lot more possible
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>>135849317
Attacking ships is a nightmare but I suppose it could be done using the bay at Novorossiysk as a standin for the city

>>135849667
Same goes, I can definitely make it with a Su-33 including carrier launch and everything, but you are going to be in a world of hurt - the fireworks from the two fleets engaging each other will be glorious though
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>>135849194
While we're at it, I wanna make a question ( Lurker only, I wouldn't know the answer ). Is it possible to create maps for DCS ? Playing Bastion on a Glatisant map sounds pretty sweet. We'd need a modeler though
More realistically though, Safe Return (AC4) sounds the easiest to make.
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>>135850180
>Is it possible to create maps for DCS ?
If you get a 3rd party license from ED.
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>>135850180
DCS Dev-attitude is that unless you can provide proof that you are profecient in creating game content, you will not get access to the content creation tools for making maps

You could in theory make your own maps from very scratch, but without the ED toolkit I think it's fair to assume it is practically impossible

Safe Return is an easy mission to make but you'd lose all of the jammers and such so what you end up with is a 8 minute loitering followed by 2 minutes of air combat
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>>135850380
Once 2.0 comes out of alpha modders will find a way
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>>135848385
A L I A S I NG
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>>135846205
Should one do both fixes? noisemax and noise1persquare?
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>>135851394
I just changed noise max to 0.5 and it helped a great deal, it reduced teh contract on your grass texture, but that's worth being able to see shit imo.
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>>135850475
Well, yeah, I guess I'm the only one who liked that mission.
All the other missions sound hard, too, because they either need custom infrastructure and/or special effects. Like, I was thinking Rendezvous, but then you'd need to make custom Burst Missile animations. Same thing for any mission involving Stonehenge.
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>>135851501
what was it originally? I see mine is at 0.6
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>>135849194
Oh, by the way, are your missions voiced in any way ? I did like the voices on the Wings of Osea trailers, which weren't as cringeworthy as I expected ( AC5 MUST be cheesy ), but I prefer the original voices.
There's always this guy's videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOHFYqFIt8k if you need voices.
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>>135851801
And that's why I stick to conventional missions

>>135849667
Just rewatched the briefing for Sea of Chaos

We are talking here about 5+3 Osea/Yuke vessels and 4 aircraft against 15 god damned Yuke vessels and 6 aircraft

Now I can't *not* make this mission just to see the AI go berserk
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>>135852530
It wont end well Russian ships decimate anything western.
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>>135852530
That sounds fun, but the player would need to know who's friendly and who isn't before Harpoon'ing a friendly.
>15 yuke vessels
Didn't a bunch of them turn friendly ? Also I'm pretty sure the fleet commander sunk one of his own cruisers.
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>>135852530
Don't forget the second Osea fleet
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>>135852174
0.6
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>>135849906
Sea of Chaos sounds pretty rad, I know it's going to be a cluster fuck in DCS but it's going to be a fun clusterfuck. SA-10's errwhere

>>135852530
Come on man go through with it, Sea of Chaos is my favorite AC mission solely because of the cluster fuck, the enemy completely panicking over four aircraft and The Journey Home on full blast.

We also can forget the Yuke ships that join sides with the Kestral!
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>>135853305
Only one AC quote could describe such mission properly, and that's Grimm during the tunnel run in Aces : <<My warnings won't stop beeping!>>
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>>135852978
15 Yuke vessels AFTER 3 of them turn friendly

Here's the Yuke fleet in position

>>135853001
I didn't I'm testing just without them first

>>135853305
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>>135850475
I'd really like to sit down and recreate that sunken city map from AC4, but ED a shit.
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Anyone know of a good contrail addon for P3Dv3? The default ones look like shit
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>>135854416

IT BEGINS

I need to adjust time to fit the sunset
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>>135854416
Hory shet, 15 after ? Also I just decided to re-play the mission, I don't remember that Osean fleet turning red over you.
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>>135854980
>>135854650

Blue: Osean allegiance
Red: Yuke allegiance

After mission elapsed time 2:22
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>>135853624
Grimm was a BMS shitter, that's why he died
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>>135855248
>All those dots flying across the screen
At least CIWS in DCS are overpowered, or else there'd be no Osean fleet to defend.
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>>135854650
>>135855248

Have some absolute chaos

Tbh this would be amazing fun to fly through I think gotta adjust some things
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>>135855481
2 ships aren't exactly a fleet.
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>>135855376
Uh, you're talking about PJ, buddy. Grimm is alive and well. Also his Assault Records list him as simply MIA, so I like to headcanon that he Cipher'd out of history and escaped to buttfuck nowhere.
><<Flying around with those ideals swimming in your head is gonna get you killed>>
>Tfw Buddy was right
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>>135855804
Careful with your Ace combat memes, you're gonna get that one autist really butthurt.
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>>135855989
What autist, talking about some sort of simulator elitist ? Hmm, now I'm curious and want to meme harder.
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>>135855989
He's probably killed himself by this point with this much Ace Combat spilling into here.
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>>135855989
I think we are already past the no point of no return Buddy, I'm honestly surprised someone hasn't complained yet
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>>135856747
Not a problem with that, as long as we make the discussion simulator related ( AKA remaking AC missions ).
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>>135856204
So much as posting a texture file of an Ace Combat plane used to set him up for 100 posts of shitposting about how Ace Combat is irredeemable garbage and that everyone who likes it should kill themselves for being such casual no skill babbys.
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radio ops when?
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>>135857142
Well, at the same time I'm glad this guy ain't here, it kinda sparks my curiosity. Some people just need to learn that where you have planes, you have AC.
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>>135855526
>DCS: SEA OF CHAOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9qcyR549cg
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>>135857329
Last time he got really triggerinoed by pic related.
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Now the weather fits and the sunset is more real

Honestly there's no fucking chance of surviving this for Osea and the player squadron but you can have the mission file if you like here:

https://mega.nz/#!Gl0yHYaY!GQUlUl-_brN43jGvpgFJAt7Qr_gPd-o9viS3QiKBFDY

You need to open it with the mission editor (put it in username\Saved Games\DCS\Missions) and change the Squadron above the Osean fleet into one playable slot and whichever aircraft suits you - dont forget to choose payload, skin and such

>>135857471
Play that while watching the webm here
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>>135857671
That would be exagerating. I mean, come on, it's just the ISAF logo and the Mobius emblem. No one can be THIS autistic, right ?
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>>135857187
Greg pls.

If enough people express legitimate interest in radio ops we can maybe try it.

But I doubt it.
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>>135858195
>No one can be THIS autistic, right ?

Look at the BMS>DCS constant shitposting or the DCS module>FC3 shitposting and you tell me.
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>>135857857
Now we just need actual carrier based fighters to play it.
>Leatherneck Tomcat NEVER
>Veao Rafale NEVER
>Hornet NEVER
They'll come out ... eventually.
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>>135858357
kill yourself.
this why bms is better.
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>>135858195
Oh believe me they can, I'm the one that posted the UV (and the one posting these Sea of Chaos webms) and honestly it was pitiful

I did make fun of him to trigger him more but eh the damage was done

Here's Glacial Skies - Again, make sure to pick Galm 1 as playable and put it in the correct folder (or why not set Galm 1 and 2 as client and do a co-op session with a friend?). This mission uses the Galm 1 and Galm 2 skins available from http://www.lockonfiles.com/files/file/2475-fc3-f-15c-skins-from-ace-combat-zero-galm-1-2/

https://mega.nz/#!HhkQGbbJ!gWGvWgSAVqm2c4BlWA4-g3SDReC5QSNfB5Sv784saqw
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How should I be using the Mi-8 in a gunship role?
I find the Hip a lot more comfortable to fly outside of combat, but when shooting stuff it's like I'm flying a big pile of dog shit in comparison to the Huey.
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>>135858620
Can anyone else try it and tell me what it's like ? My battlestation broke long ago, now I'm a poorfag DELL warrior.
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>>135858873
I posted webms of AI fighting the mission not so long ago, here's one

(Ustio got hammered)
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>>135859089
>>135858873
This F-5E kept stalking Cipher for minutes

IIRC the result of the mission was actually sucessful with no bombers being in comission, but Galm and Crow team were all shot down

I have not put any sounds or anything into the mission because I can't do scripting worth a damn
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>>135858525
Enough Greg. We talked about it last night and it won't work with how few we already have.

You can shit post about BMS vs DCS and radio mods all day but you can't change the facts.

Stop acting like a child.
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>>135859340
Can you get off my back already? You dickheads actually believe I would continue posting about it, after I have been ranting all night about not caring about the radiomod?

Perhaps you should grow more then 2 brain cells, you puff
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>>135858737
The Hip can take more fire and carry lots of rockets and the absolutely based GUV gunpods, but it's also not as maneuverable, a bigger target, and doesn't have door gunners. So it's a tradeoff. Personally I prefer the Huey but I've never been a fantastic Hip pilot so maybe I just need to git gud.
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>>135859313
>>135859089
Oh, ok, thanks a bunch for those. Good job on making those, I really apreciate it. I'll make sure to try then when I un-poorfag my shit up.
>Crow
Thought they only showed up from Excalibur on.
And that Pixy is such a pussy. Like, come on, nigga had both wings on in the first webm, why eject ? Just trimm it off, BRUH.
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>>135858737
Wouldn't it just be a matter of taking a longer gun run? Fly out further and stay to a straight path and hope you don't get shot up?
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This mission is wacky.
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Okay, Sea of Chaos in the Mirage is impossible

Next I'm going to try out doing just CAP in gods plane.
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>>135859902
>Bonus almost went full Solo-wing
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>>135860131
>M-2000C(Mobius 1)
Such skin must become a thing.
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>>135860131
Alright, F-15C time
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>>135860583
I even got near the fleet! However was directly shot down. Killed a Su-33 and a allied F-15C before getting shot down.
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>>135860794
All the smoke trails and that F-15 remind me of go dance with the angels, mister!
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>>135859801
Well technically they do, I put them quite far back to allow Galm time to take out the objectives

>>135859902
>>135860131
You need my Mirage Solo Wing skin :^)

>>135860447
I'll make one dw
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>>135860583
>Alright, casual time
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>>135861668
I'm pretty sure you already have other wingmen in the original, some 6 F-1s I think. I wonder, now, what could be put in place of the F-1 ? There are no AI F-1s in DCS, as far as I'm aware.
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>>135862310
SEPECAT Jaguar would be perfect but there are none I think

I'd put a couple of F-5s to be honest

I couldn't find my mission file for Imminent Threat, so I rebuilt the mission - I'm going to try it out - it will require my F-15C Mobius skin http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/669453/

And yes I know how god awful my AA is at the moment, but graphics are set up for massive multiplayer missions
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Ops yesterday were fun. When will the next heli ops take place? Or MiG-21. I should also learn that plane.
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>>135862979
Yeah, wouldn't be too farfetched to put some F-5s in there, or maybe an F-4 since the belkans already have some Tigers. I mean, they're all twin engine and old, they should be pretty close to eachother.
>Imminent Threat
Who's the unlucky base that will play Rigley this time ?
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>>135845706
>>135845946
It wouldn't be fun in any fucking imaginable way. Just do the same thing with an A-10.
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>>135863447
A-10c doesn't go supersonic, or carry 84 Mk. 82s
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>>135852889
>Russian ships decimate anything western.
In which universe?
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>>135864556
like clock work.


also play DCS.
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>>135864556
In the slavaboo universe. Protip : the internet has an interdimensional overlap with that place.
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>>135863406
Mineralnye Vody

All units from Invincible Threat are in the game so it's quite easy to do - I need to revise some details a bit after first test

MSAA OFF TRIGGER WARNING
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>>135864887
>Invicible Threat
Kek, typo or not, I laffed.
Also, at first glance, Invincible Fleet sounds like a nightmare, but when you look at it, you have to remember that none of the ships SAMs are operational for half the mission and that they're poorly supplied in Comberth and some shit like that, so it's like shooting at sitting ducks.
Which brings me to another point, they're undersuplied because you shot down the transports during Blockade. Maybe you can do that too.
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>>135864556
Russian ships, or at least their one carrier anyway, aren't designed around having the support of an entire carrier battlegroup for every fight. They have an insane amount of missiles for both offensive surface and air targets, and a crap ton of guns and missiles for defensive fire.
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>>135865526
Nah m8 like i put the moscow in guns range against the two oliver crappies in guns range, it killed them both while they were shooting ASMs at it.

And then if you put them far away the Russian ASMs out range the western missiles and there have like a million of them, not to mention that the CIWS can actually kill more than one missile.

of course both sides having excellent skill.

But i see now ED added the Ticonderoga, so it should be less crap, west wise
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>>135863221
I'm working on an improved version of the CSAR ops.

gimme more ideas for more help ops tho
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>>135865452
Typo kek

True, and the blockade mission (as well as the oil refinery strike) could definitely be made - we can almost make an entire AC4 campaign

Imminent Threat is re-made and tested - and it's actually quite intense but not impossible at all! Requires the Mobius One F-15C here >>135862979

https://mega.nz/#!y8MGHRjK!016n2kui5E945jxXr17PKuu68vzQ3se_JhUJAK1Q12c

I'm uploading a full length recording to youtube as soon as I've put in the proper music
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>>135867619
Okay, nice.
One thing though, wouldn't Pipeline require you to, you know, have an entire oil refinery at the shore and a bunch of drilling facilities ? Also, best for last, even if you finish the mission, you will get your ass Yellow 13'd.
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>>135868021
Well you can place shitloads of oil platforms if you like and I suppose add some cargo ships and fuel trucks and what not to emulate it - gotta work with what we've got
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>>135868491
Well, I never touched the mission maker, didn't know they had oil rigs.
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>>135867191
Something where we have to weave in and out of buildings in an urban space to avoid anti-air could be fun. It could also be a nightmare.
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>>135867619
>>135868021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYBTEgDtCsc&feature=youtu.be

Allow a couple of minutes more for processing, maybe 10 if you want HD
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>>135869902
Sorry but I'm giving myself the freedom of First'ing you video.
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>>135852889
>>135864658
>>135864712
>>135865526
I recommend reading this for an eye opening view of the russian navy
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>>135870369
>>135869902
Fuck a couple of minutes in the video gets stuttering and horrid, just ignore the remainder, the mission is gud shite
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>>135870602
What does that have to do with videogames?
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>>135870673
Yeah, just got there, it's past 3:40 or something.
I was kinda going to ask you about something though, these missions require you to destroy ground targets ( Parked bombers in this case ), shouldn't the player's plane be something else ? I mean, F-15C's can't carry bombs n shit. I mean, gun runs work, but not that much.
Also, I saw that you made a Cipher Mirage 2000. Since their skins are so similar, you could try tweaking it to have an anti-ground capable Mobius.
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>>135871221
The missions don't have any objective or trigger put in so how you do what you do is up to you

Just modify which plane you use in mission editor

But yeah I can do the ISAF Mirage easily, I'll do the proper one instead though - use FEAF Rigaux until then, it's been uploaded to DCS user files just not approved
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>>135871518
Ah, makes sense. Yeah, triggers can always be set up later on.
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>>135871687
I'll set up triggers and objectives and perhaps even sounds if this is to be an actual campaign - and make a lot of simple but useful skins to really distinguish all of the factions and such

The Imminent Threat mission even has the Ace A-10A so adding in the skin for that one as well as jacking up a couple of F-5E skins for ISAF/Erusea etc
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>>135869164
I was thinking about something like that actually. Shame more people don't have sand because it would be perfect for it.
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>>135872313
Talking about a campaign, the terrain really counds compatible with Usea. Like, the Northern Eye can be done in the mountains, and there is plenty of sea and plains.
BUT,missions such as Breaking Arrows and Whiskey corridor are done ina glacier and a desert, respectively. What ? Strait of Hormuz is the closest to a desert we could get, that'd require making the player pay for another module, and there are no glaciers like the ones north of Usea in DCS.
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>>135872819
>What ?
Fucking hell, I meant "What do ?"
Also there should be a "but" before "that'd require".
I want to murder whoever invented typos.
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>>135872819
For Breaking Arrows you just put the nighttime on, change to winter, and put the AO over the Caucasus mountains, it'll seem just like the real deal

Whiskey Corridor is a no-go but you can just do a similar mission and encourage the player to use the desert texture pack but make it entirely optional
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>>135874275
Yeah, I don't think an 100% replica of AC4 or AC2 is possible unless by some miracle ProjectAces made an Usea map. Might as well make your own semi original story but with missions from the game, like Infinity did.
Oh, I guess you can cross Tango Line out of the list too, the thing's in the middle of the Chopinburg RAINforest after all.
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>>135874275
>BMS textures ruin my immersion
>But I have no problem playing pretend to make muh ace missions come to life
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>>135874807
I have never used BMS and never will, pls take your shite with someone who cares

>>135874805
You could get quite far with Ace Combat X actually, plains, mountains, a port city, a capital city, a city with rivers, maaaaybe stretch it a bit with some ice or snow near Anapa and you're pretty much good to go - not counting in the super weapons
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>>135875172
Yeah but what ab-
>not counting in the super weapons
Oh, I was already gonna ask about dem meson cannons. Also, any viable islands that could become the Archelon fortress and the Fenrir weapon control center ? ( The one with the satellite dishes and all )
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>>135875172
Megalith could be made, the entire island and everything could be a 3d object, and there's a glitch with which you can place any building on water, simply by using ctrlc ctrlv.

But i don't know if you can have animations on buildings, then again it could be made a vehicle since you can place, them on water the same way.
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>>135875968
Make Megalith+Island a building, place it on the sea, and make the generators and the lasers a vehicle.
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>>135876191
Yeah, but i know the entire thing, kind of opens up doesn't it?
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Who let the Ace Combat faggots in? Don't you have your own general or some shit?
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>>135876440
If they're playing ace combat yes..
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>>135876293
Oh, yeah, I was forgetting about the 5 or something missiles that get uncovered when you destroy the generators.
>>135876440
Doesn't seems like you guys are having any discussion of your own. If you want to do so, be my guest. Also we're keeping it DCS related.
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>>135876770
No. Acefags out
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>135876770
Actually it would need to be a giant boatan, since all those laser thingamabobs.

I could make the model if i get off my lazy ass, the thing is, i don't have a clue about effects and effects in DCS.
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>>135877148
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Is this the guy that >>135855989 was talking about ? Man, I haven't been to /r9k/ in ages.
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>>135877304
Lemme see, the lasers can't be complicated, they're supposed to illuminate asteroids in space, so it's not like they need to point anywhere specific really. The missiles are supposed to be anti-ballistic and anti-asteroid. With the addition of the Tico, we should have some Standard Missiles, right ?
Only problem would be the huge ICBM in the middle, and the other MRBMs.
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>>135877304
I've looked into modifying effects in DCS and all of them are pretty hard coded. If you can change anything at all, it's only extremely basic stuff like the length of a missile trail.

There's no particle systems file you can edit for example like BMS which gives you a lot of flexibility.
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>>135878202
>BMS wins once again
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>>135879131
>Noplanessimulator wins once again
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Hey /simg/ I want to get into get into combat flight sims but I have very limited flight sim experience (I played some Microsoft Flight Simulator when I was a kid, that's about it, Ace Combat obviously doesn't count).

I know Flaming Cliffs 3 should be a good place to start. Are the in-game tutorials for it any good for a beginner like myself? Are there any recommended resources you wish you had when you started out (that youj would be willing to share)?.

I have a 3d Pro stick
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>>135878202
Nah you'd need a new effect, or maybe the laser effect can be used.
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>>135880342
In game is fine there are a lot of tutorials on youtube and guides can be found on the DCS steam forums and ED forums.

As well as the manuals.
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>>135880342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU3pmXvnc0k

https://linx.li/falconbms433setup.torrent
bms installer here
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>>135880673
also youll need this during bms' installation
https://linx.li/falcon4.exe
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>>135880342
Don't bother with FC3. People will just make fun of you for being a babby.
Just learn BMS and then laugh at the FC3 shitters who can't even land a plane.
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>>135880673
>>135881424
>>135881774
Is this how you come on to women as well?
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>>135881774
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How do I fix my trackir in BMS? As soon as I start it just flips the fuck out and goes EVERYWHERE. It looks like it's rotating extremely fast
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>>135880673
I wish there were tutorials that took stuff a little slower. It's very overwhelming amount of info, and when you actually play you forgot a lot of the stuff you just heard in the tutorials. I think the ED tutorial missions are pretty good.
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>>135881948
Check to see if you have interference in the TrackIR program. Go to the camera view and you'll see what's causing it to flip out. Windows with sunlight in them are a common culprit.
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>>135881942
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>>135882110
It's not the tracker that's the problem. It works perfectly in DCS
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>>135882025
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3E09AA94FF0EACEC

https://youtu.be/2haRQ6DCzSM

Basics are essentially the same between 4.32 and 4.33 with the exception of key bindings

Also download both the manuals to your phone or w/e and read them when youre bored
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>>135882190
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>>135882859
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>>135883097
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>>135883312
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>tfw 12 hours of sleep

Fuck. God damn 4am ops

[Spoiler]it was fun tho[/spoiler]
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>>135883561
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>>135881887
that's such an autistic thing to say
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https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2RfzgKTf7AFUVFIQUE0ckU5cFE&usp=sharing

Here's some hardcore autism.
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"My proudest achievement is that I never lost a wingman"
Can you say the same?
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>>135885426
>you will never be a luftwaffe ace by the age of 12
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>>135887493
>A-10A
My sides why do you even use that if the A-10C is out there? You some kind of faggot?
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Enough shitposting, guys! Embrace the comfy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlzI8gKFhZc
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RIDE
IN
TO
THE DANGER ZONE
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>>135887956
We are just getting started!
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>>135887842
Yeah I am. Sorry if that offends you, friendo.
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>join random freeflight server
>see friendly a10 fly around
>pass by him to see if he might want to fly in formation
>he loses his shit and tries to shoot me down with the gun

DCS and its playerbase are fucking cancer
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>>135888339
HEY! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
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>>135888139
I, for one, didn't notice any difference in the flight model
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>>135888139
Its cool bro, as long as you are proficient with it.
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>>135888875
There aren't any. The A and C share the same flight model.
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>>135887956
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>>135886317
>You will never be an Ace
>You will never be 12 again
WHY
H
Y
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>>135888339
VAEO quality
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>female fuel receiver instead of a refueling boom

FUCKING WHY
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>>135891689
http://www.duffelblog.com/2016/03/f-16-to-kc-135-i-thought-we-had-something-magical/
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>>135888339
did the apu live ?
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>>135897309
Unlike this thread, yes.
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who experimental here
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>>135898932
Does it come with realistic wings tearing off simulation?
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So we have ridiculously detailed flight simulators, driving simulators, submarine sims and even farming sims.

Yet there are no good modern tank simulators. How is this acceptable?
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>>135899987
Well for it to be realistic you would need 2-4 other players. Much easier to develop a single seat plon.
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>>135899987
Steal Beasts Pro is very nice and so far the best.
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>>135899987
Having one person do the job of four (commander, gunner, loader, driver) would distance such a game far from simulator territory.

A tank simulator would make good VR game for the hardcore fans 2bh. Itt'd be nice as a coop game where everyone would have to work together to successfully operate it.
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>>135901662
>Having one person do the job of four (commander, gunner, loader, driver) would distance such a game far from simulator territory.

t.BMS poster.

I bet if you had a ship simulator you'd want the poop deck swabber to be a player too.
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>>135899987
The problem is how far you'd be willing to go to drive a tank. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love tanks, mostly for their internal mechanics, but the idea of driving one and just going shootey shootey just sounds so ... undewhelming.
Take a plane, on the oher hand. I can assure you that most non-normalfags who can get obssesed about things already dreamed of being a fighter pilot at least ONCE. The idea of flying one just sounds so fun, you know, like doing loops all around, flaring and going full Top Gun on things.
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>>135845164
>migs
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We need more tonksims
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>>135902548
out.
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>>135902548
w... wew
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>>135902548
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>>135901879
>not wanting to play as a chow hall chef

shaking my head to be host familia
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STOP
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>>135902856
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>>135902856
>>135903105
FUCK AFUASIOGHF
STOP
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>135902856
>>135903105

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>135902856
>>135903105
STOP THIS DEGENERACY
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>>135903105
Nothing is sacred.
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ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>135903105
WHAT THE FUCK DUDE
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>>135903537
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>>135902856
>What's going on on this thr-
>Oh
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>>135903537
STOP IT, CRIMINAL SCUM
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>>135902548
I'm wondering if this is anal or oral vore and I'm having a really hard time to decide.
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>>135902856
>>135903105
>>135903537
you're fucking weird
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what the fuck is going on
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>>135903537
>>135903105
>>135902856
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>>135903704
Okay nigger plz STAHP >>135903980
>It's seeping out
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>>135903537
ooohhh my GAAAWWD
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>>135904420
STOP THIS HERESY
BY THE EMPEROR
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>>135904420
u dun goofd
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>>135904420
A WORLD WITH NO BOUNDARIES WILL CREATE A STATE WHERE THIS SHIT ISN'T ALLOWED
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>>135904756
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Quality thread /aceg/.. I mean /simg/.
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So what do you guys think of: Command Modern Air Naval Operations

worth the 80 bucks?
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>>135906331
Pretty deep senpai

It's very limited in terms of land based combat, but I can't complain much when it's called air naval ops.
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>>135905945
Hey, come on, it's Sunday. Gotta have something to talk about.
Also, question to the more sim savy people, I posted >>135904756, but whenever I look at the pic, something always bothers me : he back seat is empty. Can you fly any kind of Flanker without the WSO ? This case is A2A only, so I guess it might be possible, right ?
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>>135906528
I there anything similar in complexity for land based combat?
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>>135907175
Cowadooty
>>
/simg/ was a mistake

look at this fucking faggot shit.
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>>135907175
Not that I know of.
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Maybe if we post comfy the memes will go away.
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>>135913739

Ugliest terrain in any game ever.
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>>135913846
Well, to be honest, you can't map out the entire fucking globe and expect A+ quality terrain.
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>>135906331

Worth every bit of $80 in my opinion, but I'm also a super autist.

Don't get the $20 standalone expansion first, it's just a mission pack without any editor, and I had the most fun designing my own missions.

Get it on sale if you can, it's 50% off every now and then.

>>135907175

I think the Combat Mission series is what you're looking for. If you want something more casual then Wargame.
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>>135913739
Okie dokie
>>
Who's down for some P3D Airbus a320 flyan? I'll post the correct torrent links for it in a sec. It's pretty big but it's a well worth it simulation for this plane. You can fly as pilot + copilot with full simulated ground ops.
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>>135918013
http://pastebin.com/PTHW3GVh
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>>135918013
I heard P3D has a F-22, is it a F-22 with systems or is it FC3 electric boogaloo 2?
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>>135916959
BUMP
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>>135920298
better than fc3, but i think none of the weapons work.
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>>135921663
Doesn't it also have an F-35?
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Can I make my self the #2 in DCS? I want to follow an AI flight lead.

I'm in the mission editor, and it lets me set it to Client, but not Player. Is it not possible?
>>
http://youtu.be/kpzPz65Wqf0

B-1 would take the fastest dcs devs a full decade to make
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>>135921663
Well, that has me set. The F-22 is my planefu and if I can at least turn it on I'm set
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>>135923814
Good because it would also take about a decade to be unclassified.
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>>135923234

I answered it my self.

If you set something to Client, you make it selectable when you start the mission.
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>>135923814
I wonder if we will ever see a B-2 sim in our lifetimes.
>>
How do you visually spot aircraft in DCS?
I only recently started playing and had my first match that went terribly but one thing i noticed off the bat when i was waiting on one friendly to land (and crash) on the runway was that his planes model didn't even draw in until he was like ~5-10km away from me at approach.

I had a little standoff with an SU-27 in my hog, he was lit up like a christmastree on my RWR and i could vaguelly determine the direction he was in by the rate of his movement on the RWR but i ended up getting shot down anyway because i never actually saw him.
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>>135926964
at the moment, it's standard to simply complain on the forums about it
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>>135926964
git gud
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>>135926964

>standoff with an SU-278
>in my hog

So, you got shot down by an air superiority fighter while flying your sub sonic close air support attack aircraft?

Hmmm
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>>135926964
I mean it's called Beyond Visual Range for a reason you know.
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>>135928783

It was in a knife fight situation though, i didn't see him but in the RWR he several times went from dead ahead of me to right behind me extremely fast, so i was just dodging him for a couple minutes until he managed to land a hit
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>>135860583
>dat sexy DOF
mff
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>>135902856
>>135903105
>>135903537
That's kinda hot.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOeXKWRxaMc
Hnnnng
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>>135924640
>F-22 is my planefu
Shittiest taste I've ever seen.
>>
NORMANS

RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>135936659
>not liking the angelfish/spacecraft plane
do your eyes not work?
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>>135937203
>fish
pls no
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>>135937247
what's the problem? Don't like the dark places?
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>>135937203
Real planes have curves.
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>>135932864
Isn't she beautiful, anon?
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>>135926964
Visibility in DCS is essentially nonexistent. Either get used to it and complain on the forums like the rest of us, or play Falcom BMS, which simulates how humans actually see distant objects if you enable smart scaling in the options
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>>135852889
You slavboos are so delusional you started believing your own lies.
The only thing the russian navy is good at is sinking.
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>>135942296
One thing I don't understand is why smart scaling is needed.

Surely if a 3D object scaled to distance as in irl, you should have the correct sized object as you would see in a cockpit.
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>>135942615
I think he was referring to how the ships are modeled in DCS, not IRL.
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>>135899987
>get your buddies to finally play tonksim2155
>everything is set up you get rolling
>suddenly tonk just assplodes
>plane shot tank from 100nm away
sounds like great fun tá Žbh
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>>135942639
Are you aware that your monitor / display is only a fraction of the size of your real-life vision?
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>>135942838
yes, but lets say for the moment that im autistic enough to get the fov and monitor distance correct

we now have a 1:1 human eye "window" into gamespace

at this point surely a 3d scaled object should be "correct"
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>>135942971
Right, but nobody actually plays at a fov of about 20, hence smart scaling
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>>135942971
yes, but the 'window' is made up of pixels which your eye does not have. The pixels mean that eventually an object will be smaller than a pixel and unable to be seen.
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>>135943072
Oh I see there isn't enough information in the given area to represent stuff correctly.
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>>135943038
So really if I wanted the 1:1 experience I need to buy 2 more u2414H monitors.
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>>135943160
Are you 12 or just retarded?
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>>135943537
just retarded, i forgot about pixels
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>decide to check out BMS
>check options to set the keys
>pages of fucking buttons

oh boy this is gonna take a while.
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>>135944547
for the love of god, make sure to save
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>>135944547
Don't really need a lot of binds. Most things can be easily done in the cockpit.
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>>135944617
Really the key is to bind it as close as you can to the HOTAS irl.
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>>135944721
Yep that way you know what to do when you sit in the real thing
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>>135944576
Oh I did

>>135944617
>Don't really need a lot of binds
Oh ok, thought so.

I'm surprised at how fast and intuitive it was to get most of the shit setup, I just need to know what specific buttons i'm going to need the most during operations/combat.

Also, are there other campaigns or mods?
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>>135945157
Most essential controls can be found here in the description or just watch the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2haRQ6DCzSM&list=PLxhmQcWxqgmAilxEBBhSkL23V2VaOGfWQ&index=1

There are mods/campaigns available
The most favorite are the Israeli/Balkan theaters.
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>>135945572
Thank you.
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>>135944547
Download a premade profile for your hotas

seriously
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>>135945828
What if it doesn't exist, retard?
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>>135946076
There's like 4 or 5 HOTAS in existence.

The chance that yours doesn't have a profile is extremely small.
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>>135946076
>What if it doesn't exist, retard?
wew lad, you don't deserve any help with that attitude.
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>>135946076
Would have directed you to a shared folder that contains BMS profile for even the most niche device, but go fuck yourself senpai
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>>135946076
What hotas do you have ?
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>>135946173
I'm not the original anon, just someone who doesn't have muh premade templates for my device.
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>>135946118
>>135946212
>>135946243
I'm not the guy who asked for help, go help him instead, I dunno. All you BMS retards deserve such a treatment anyway.
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>>135946319
Jokes on you, I don't even play BMS.
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>>135946247
>>135946319
>dosent tell us what device he has
>Theres no profile for my device !!!!
You`re a silly anon
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>>135942709
Well not like Western ASMs outrange Russian ones anyway.

but westaboos get triggered like instantly.
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>>135888091
Who is this sick fuck in the pic?
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>>135947372
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>>135947372
Nabutso
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>>135947372
Some shitty japanese cartoon character
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>>135947372
>>135947417
>>135947693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY72a3BbfVI
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>>135947754
Oh god my sides
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I honestly can't wait for A-10 brrrt fags to be BTFO by their inability operate in a high threat environment compared to the Bug.

M U L T I
U
L
T
I

R O L E
O
L
E
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Vomit comet skin when LN?
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I can't wait for 2022.
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>>135951485
They just keep botching the job further and further.
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>>135926964
>How do you visually spot aircraft in DCS?
You don't if they're more than 1km away. You need to zoom all the way in to where they are, then make sure to never zoom out because you'll lose sight the instant you do.
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>>135926964
>How do you visually spot aircraft in DCS?
Set model enlargement to small in the options.
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>>135926964
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160634

Although it's either broken or every server I've been on is uninstalling it or some shit.
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>>135954619
That mod doesn't really make things easier to see per say, it makes the spotting more realistic.
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>>135955025
No I mean every server either has all enlargement blocked, or they have it set to override the user and up to maximum big-huge with 1000 foot long planes and 500 foot trucks.
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>>135955087
How big they look depends on resolution, so large at 1440 is about equivalent to what medium looks like at 1080. Either way, I much prefer things being too visible over the alternative, although obviously ED getting their shit together and making the system realistic is ideal.
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>>135952016
What am I looking at here?
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>>135955545
A2G sortie tallies on a Typhoon.
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>>135955545
Eurocucks proud of using their premier fighter as a bomb truck.
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>>135955670
>premier fighter
I always thought the EF is a meme plane of the highest caliber?
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>>135955670
At least they tested the air to ground aspect of the plane pretty well.
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>>135955670
>>135955974
It's just a decent multi-role, it's pretty much inferior second rate at A2A until the T3 order is fulfilled but it's a decent striker, unlike Rafale allegedly.
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>wake up
>no hornet

AAARRRRGGGGHHHH
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>>135956563
>have all this money
>no F-5E, Viggen, or F-18 to buy
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>>135956563
>any day now
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>>135956861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvDfs6s4tbA
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I hate DCS, you should kill yourself if you play it.
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>>135959889
you tried
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>>135959889
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>>135959889
DCS fags getting desperate because then don't have anything to do in their game?
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Fishbed v Tiger pvp ops when?
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REMINDER THAT YOU CAN BROADCAST MUSIC IN DCS MISSIONS VIA RADIO SYSTEMS

REMINDER THAT THE FOLLOWING SHOULD PLAY ON THE DEFAULT CHANNEL OF ALL SLAV AIRCRAFT IN EVERY DCS MISSION

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIY36UbDbQQ
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>>135962859
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>tfw having fun with P3D

I-is it illegal?
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>>135963765
Just play bms desu senpai
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>>135964840

I'm curious since I haven't really touched FSX for a couple of years - what are the advantages you gain from P3D compared to FSX, as a user at least? I'd rather hear it from someone that uses it than those that sell it
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>>135961971
when we get the F-5 aka never ever
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>>135965730
fuck off
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>>135858492

Wait did VEAO call dibs on the Rafale too? Fuuuck.
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>>135965264
P3D definitely looks better than FSX, allegedly it also runs better but it didn't on my potato.

And that's why I've been flying and posting FS2004 pics lately.

Also, that skin looks fucking sick.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/314160/

SALE
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>>135966615
>sideslipping
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>135966615
Where's the HUD tho?
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>>135967362
>HUD
error_1972
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>>135965264
Graphics and flight model are the two I can think of off the top of my head. I haven't tried P3D, but FSX is old as fuck and its flight model is stiff, like you're flying through molasses.
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>>135967438
>1972
>Has an MFD

Clearly a modernized version, why not implement a crude HUD? Even the A-10A has one.
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>>135965730
This is proof you are not the real greg.
The real greg ALWAYS uses "then" for comparison which is wrong.
Ironically you revealed yourself by having better grammar than the real greg.
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>>135967783
>Clearly a modernized version, why not implement a crude HUD?
It's a one in civilian ownership with a GPS installed I think, the USAF modernised F-5Ns removed the gunsight entirely afaik.
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>>135968409
Maybe I'll believe you if you post more nigels
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bemp
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>>135970679
The Russian navy could BTFO any other navy in a heart beat.
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>>135971103
In advanced waypoint options you can set them as invisible, if that helps. The model will still be there in the game world but it can't be detected and fired upon by AI.
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>>135970858
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>>135970858
>The navy that has never won a single blue-water engagement, ever
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>>135913739
Always happy to oblige
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>>135970858
They couldn't even BTFO the Japanese
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>>135974309
>FL140

Wait wut? FL as in "flight level"?

I don't know shit about Korea, but here in 'murica the flight levels don't start until 18,000 ASL
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>>135974941
>the flight levels don't start until 18,000 ASL
LOL
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>>135979051
Cuck
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>as a question about dcs mission editor
>banned and my post gets deleted
Fucking kill yourself mods.
Bernie loving cuck faggots.
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>>135979491
i've learned one thin is to never trust the cries of 4chan users it's always
> I DINDU NUFFIN
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>>135979051
Stop triggering my autism

>Flight level standardization is only applicable in class A air space (18,000 ft and above) only. Flight levels are described by a number, which is this nominal altitude (or, pressure altitude) in hecto-feet, while being a multiple of 500 ft, therefore always ending on 0 or 5. Therefore, an apparent altitude of, for example, 32,000 feet is referred to as "flight level 320". To avoid collisions between two aircraft due to their being at the same altitude, their "real" altitudes (compared to ground level, for example) are not important; it is the difference in altitudes that determines whether they might collide. This difference can be determined from the air pressure at each craft and does not require knowledge of the local air pressure on the ground.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_level
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>>135979491
rekt
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>>135949372
You honestly think that the people who are super into ground pounding and got the A10 because of it won't get the F18 somehow?

What's more likely is you're some kiddo with a god complex who constantly gets outperformed by A10 fags and thinks a new plane will suddenly fix all your lack of skill problems. What you don't seem to get is that within days you'll again be left in the dust as us "A-10 brrrt fags" will outperform you again in the F18, which is propably the point at which you're making a post about how you honestly can't wait for the F35 or some shit.
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>>135980052
>they will give the new plane to loyal customers for free
I bet you also believe in santa claus
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>>135979830
You almost got it right

The FL180 barrier refers to barometer setting at which 29.92 or STD is set on, thaT's the second part of your paragraph about, the part about real altitude not really mattering.

The FL terminology is still used for altitudes below 18k ft tho, especially for flights intending to go into class A airspace in the first place.

Class A airspace mainly means two things: IFR flight rules and STD baro settings (2992).
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>>135980367
Are you mentally impaired? Where do I even remotely imply they'd get it for free? People who bought the A10 are into ground pounding, hence they bought the A10, that much is a fact. The same people will buy the F18, it's that simple.
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So I made a loadout mod.

Adds additional weapons to the following aircraft:
>A-10A, A-10C, F-15C, Ka-50, L-39ZA, M-2000C, Mi-8, MiG-21, Su-25A, Su-25T, and Su-27.

http://puu sh/nORSc/5638f9c3c9.zip
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So all of Dovetail's shit is on sale right now. Does anyone here know if the stuff in FSX: Premium Edition is worth it? It seems interesting but it also kinda looks like you're paying $15 for textures.
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>>135979832
Kill yourself imposter.
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>>135981401
>FSX
Why not just **pirate** P3D ?
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>>135982376
That's more or less why I'm asking here. Is FSX: SE worth the money to support the stuff Dovetail is doing or should I just pirate P3D?
Also do either of the FSX forks run at all reasonably well? I remember it running like absolute shit back when I played it 10 years ago, has anything changed?
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>>135982559
The only advantage in using FSX is that a few addons aren't compatible with P3D, but those are few i believe
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>>135985218
>teenager whining that people don't want to deal with his edgelord shitposting
literally fuck off back to >>>/pol/
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Looks like >>135979657 was right.
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>>135965264
Just graphic options you dont have to tweak in the fsx cfg file plus slightly better graphics. Everything is the same pretty much as fsx except some older mods wont work in p3d properly.

p3d is constantly being updated by LM which is breaking compatibility with some older mods altogether. I'm on an older version of p3d ver 3 just because I cant use certain mods I like.
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>>135989938
>that landing
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>>135986790
>>135987109
>>135987310
>>135987571
>>135987593
>>135987894
Fuck off you roach
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Seeking of P3D, how do you get the key for it? I just installed it and now it's asking for a key.
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>>135990243
I'm becoming convinced that realistic game forums require usernames and heavy handed moderation, because it brings in the most autistic pieces of shit imaginable.
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>>135989938

_TLIG_LX-IM_LOAR_

Cut Pass, congrats, you're dead
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>>135990567
That helmet looks hideous
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>>135990969
5th gen ruins everything, we probably wont even see cool painted helmets anymore either.
Just carbon weave patterns
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>>135990969
I bet it's comfy as fuck though.
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>>135991863

Yea, also legit as fuck not having to have NVGs on for night ops. Integrated into the helmet; or you can use the DAS for a 360 IR picture, no need for NVGs.
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>>135990243
No.
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>>135980425
Well, I'm half-right, I suppose. I'm still a new pilot, I haven't even started IFR training yet, and the highest I've flown is about 3,500 ASL. For all practical purposes I have the understanding of Class A airspace I need at this early stage, I figure, and I'm not about to rush to learn it ahead of time.
>>
Anyone have any tips towards getting facetracknoir to work with DCS world? In Arma it works fine, tried with different settings in the FreeTrack2.0 settings, but nothing makes a difference.. Should TrackIR be enabled somewhere in settings in DCS-world?

Can't find much of help by googling either, most info seems outdated.
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>>135956563

That shit looks like its going to be complex.

Can't wait to not know what I'm doing for months after its release lol
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>>135994013
MFD Overdose

Also the fucking throttle buttons are gonna bite me in the ass since I don't have a HOTAS
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>>135990313
Anyone? Is it something retardedly easy that I'm missing?
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>>135956563
>GO on
>NO GO on
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Night deep strike missions are cool
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>>135994697
>STALL HORN SOUNDS
>OVERSPEED WARNING SOUNDS
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>>135994801
Wait screens don't work like that, black doesn't not emit light.
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>>135995259
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>>135994915
That actually happened once on a commercial flight. Some retarded underpaid wageslave forgot to remove the (transperent) protection tape they applied to the pitot thing for de-icing or something. Ofc the crew failed to notice, too. Took off and got all kinds of warnings, both stall warning and overspeed and shitload more.

Instead of realising there was some major fuckup with the instruments and trying to slightly pitch up with good throttle they decided to pitch down and reduce throttle. Naturally also ignored the terrain alarm and crashed.

Idiots? In my cockpit?
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>>135996338
I know that accident, was actually kind of quoting it. Was an Air Egypt plane wasn't it?

Also since you mentioned it.
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>>135996338
I talk to this helicopter engineer he regularly complains about pilots, calls them monkeys.
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>>135995732
PRESS THE THREAT HANDOFF BUTTON FOR YOUR RWR ALREADY THAT SHIT TRIGGERS ME SO HARD
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>>135996796
LOL, no .
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>>135996704
Pilots snob engineers and engineers hate pilots. It's the way the world works.

I once met a guy who was majoring in Aeronautical Engineering who was terrified of flying. He was also gay so there's that.
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>>135997179
Gays? In MY cockpit?
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>>135998118
"Faggots?
In my cockpit?"
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Kill yourself mods.
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>>135998323
"Faggots?
In my thread?"
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>>135996796
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>>135999489
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>>135998819
>f16 spike
>no threat
>does not press handoff
asjkehrklsdhaskjdhrasdkljralsdrkjashdrklarhksd
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>>135998819
Is it me or does the scale of runways in BMS always look so fucking wrong. I always wonder why they look so small.

Or is it just normal that over there in chinkland the runways are so small, just like their penises?
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>>136000104
>pressing handoff once
>pressing handoff twice
>pressing the same button for 10000 times a year
Unless i get spiked by a patrior/hawk site I do not bother with that shit
>>
It's like I'm in an /a3g/ thread! Good job guys!
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>>136001281
LEL you are the one shitting it up, greg
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>>136001569
>implying I got banned
>implying I'm this much of a shitter.

You're much more of a shitter then me, obviously.
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>>136002008
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Who here would buy the F/A-18C as a beta module now, regardless of how functional the systems are?
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>>136003731
Pay me 50$ on paypal and I will gift it to you on steam
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>>136003910
>using DCS on steam
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>>136003731

immediately, no questions asked
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>>136004871
>>136003731
>regardless of how functional the systems are
Jesus christ you fucking, faggots. STOP DOING THIS. Stop throwing money at whoever releases their broken beta shitmodule this month, otherwise they will keep doing it.

STOP FUCKING BUYING UNFINISHED BETA SHIT
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>>136003731
>Buying things when bms is free
shiggy diggy doo
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>>136005179

I wish they had a preorder right now, I'd buy it blind multiple months out.
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>>136005359
>>136004871
This are the idiots that support mostly guesswork shit and keep giving morons like VAEO money. My fucking god kill yourselves.
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>>136005303
BMS is old and busted
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>>136005563
Sims have been mostly guess work since forever.

He'll even glorious BMS is still mostly guess work.
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>>136005563

ED ain't VEAO, truuuuust
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>>136005179
>not trusting in dat ED quality
They're a league above all the third parties pal.
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>>136006149
Yes we can see it in the missile quality and network stability. Pure quality.
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>>136006221
This related to their beta module releases how?
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>>136005359
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>>136006789
How many glasses is he gonna put on?
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>>136005845
>ED ain't VEAO
One word: DCS WW2.
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>>136006963
All of them
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>>136005627
BMS is better because:
Has way better ai
Dynamic campaign with complex coding
Better flight models especially for missiles
Smartscaling/better performance and has the best plane
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>>136007360
>better performance

I'm locked to 30FPS in BMS for some reason, even though I get over 60 in DCS. Any reason?
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>>136007000
>One word: DCS WW2.
Not an ED product?
It was a third party train-wreck that ED picked up the pieces of, just like NTTR.
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>>136007542
disable vsync
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>>136007761
it is off
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>>136007360
>Has way better ai
Debatable.
>Dynamic campaign with complex coding
Correct.
>Better flight models
kek.
>especially for missiles
Debatable, neither are very good just BMS errs on the side of the missiles being too good so people jack off to it.
>Smartscaling
Correct.
>better performance
Don't make me laugh.
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>>136007360
>Better flight models especially for missiles

ok no.
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>>136007854
>Debatable, neither are very good just BMS errs on the side of the missiles being too good so people jack off to it.

It's not even good, it's that they are good against AI, which is also true in DCS, they are the same amount of shit against players.
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>>136007854
AI is way smarter in BMS

>>136007909
>DCS
>Not having the worst missile system ever
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>>136008378
>You
>Knowing jack shit.
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>>136008378
You mean it 'feels' better, you need to actually give reasons.
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>>136007909
DCS missiles have way too much drag and it has been pointed out in the forums years ago and the devs promised to resolve it yet they never updated anything significant .
Unless you give any facts that DCS missiles are more realistic than BMS ill assume that yorue just a dcsfag begging for atention
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>>136007854
>>136008534
It has better AI, enemy planes behave true to their doctrine and aren't like in DCS where they lock you up on the ground in the hangar from a distance which is impossible.

For instance 21's fly low and use jump tactics in BMS, what do they do in DCS?
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anyone feel like fucking around in DCS?

Feeling like some form flying, or bfm sets, or really anything.
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>>136008534
>you
>not being mad as fuck that dcs got blown out AGAIN
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>>136008921
>what do they do in DCS?
Whatever the mission maker makes them do. They can do what you describe they can do whatever you want them to, the legitimate complaint is that the missions need to be made by a real human bean in the first place.
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AI in DCS is fucking garbage compared to BMS, and this is coming from a DCS player.

Spend one hour dogfighting BMS planes and you'll see what I mean.
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>>136009009
get on TS and we can put a server up.
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>>136009192
DCS AI is crappy, and you can hardly make them do what they want, cuz they DONT FUCKING LISTEN TO ORDERS

this is from a guy that completely gave up trying to use aircraft AI in missions after several attempts of making aircraft AI do complex and sometimes simple things, like for example bombing a point on the map with dumb bombs without making 5 passes over the target, or getting them to shoot their SEAD missiles at more than one target without making 20 turns inside of the SAMs range and subsequently getting destroyed.
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>>136009805
>bombing a point on the map with dumb bombs without making 5 passes over the target
It's all about the position of the IP waypoint.
>shoot their SEAD missiles at more than one target without making 20 turns inside of the SAMs range
kek, I know that feel
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>>136009805
Ah, so they model (insert /pol/-tier country whipping-boy here)'s airforce accurately.
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>>136009996
>Model the Mali Airforce Accurately

I'd say this fits.
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>>136009961
>It's all about the position of the IP waypoint.

Trust me on some planes, like the tornado, getting them to bomb specific vehicles is nigh impossible, without letting them have 3 years to line up that run, first .
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>>136009961
To add the SAM AI is also disgusting, i have to pretty much program in SAM logic that ED could make in 20 minutes, they turn on their radar too early, never turn it off, and if you put more than one radar they'll all stay on instead of automatically keeping the extra ones off until the others are dead, or having the option for that.
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Has the formation landing AI been fixed in DCS ? Cause i remember watching 2 mirages abort their landings for 15 minutes while starting up an a-10
Shows how terrible the AI coding really is and its pathetic.
Also on ace difficulty enemy SAMs are more liekly to snooze radar until the enemies are well inside the engagement envelope
I remember flying in a 6ship OCA strike losing 4 planes to a single sa-10 that was not recond earlier .

I actually had a thought... Is there anything DCS is actually better at than BMS ?
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>>136009009
Clouds are cool
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>>136010661
flight modeling, the flight model in DCS is amazing, it simulates more than one plane, and it has helicopters.

also it wont get absolutely BTFOd when GPU manufacturers decide they've had enough of directx 8 or whatever the fuck BMS uses.
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CANADIAN OPS ARE GO

GET IN TS
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>>136011193
>Canadian

what
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>>136011336
We're flying under the Canadian flag, eh?
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>>136010952
>Better modeling
>su-27 afm
>mig21
Thouse flight models were fucked for a while until they finally patched them .

IF I remember correctly in bms 4.32 I used to practice dogfights against eurofighters cause their flight model seemed to be better than they should be ,but that plane was not used in the usual theater.
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>>136011512

>Thouse flight models were fucked for a while until they finally patched them .

And your point is?

also the 27 flight model was fine from the start, it's still in that famous russian beta though.
Mig-21 i have no idea, don't have it.
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>>136011737
MiG-21 used to lock on 36 degrees AoA and get stuck there, and it still gets "sticky" around there now, but it doesn't actually stay stuck. It also used to bounce around a lot more on the ground.
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>>136011737
My point is that the flight models together with good AI makes BMS feel way more realistic and more enjoyable than DCS .
I just don`t see the replayability in DCS modules after learning the aircraft and playing some missions. WHat do you do after that ? 104?
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>>136012706
>WHat do you do after that ?
Play more missions?
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>>136012934
There`s a limit to that especially for recently released and older era planes
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>>136012706
IDK play missions, make missions, join a server, sometimes not the 104th is populated and those are actually fun and you can meet some actual non cunt people, have fun with them.
But scratch that last part you'd probably be banned since 4chan users typically can't go 15 minutes without sperging out.

And not like you can ever master any of these aircraft anyway so there's always a challenge to learn something, especially with the snazy flight model.
Of course you could just be a prune and fly the F-15 and skip out on all the fun.
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>>136013848
>being this mad that DCS is inferior to BMS
I don't even mean that as insult, BMS just offers more replay value
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>As a pilot. I can say there is no way in HELL i would want the flaps automatic with the landing gear... What genius was smoking what when they thought of that! I like to work the flaps whether the gear is up or down. And that side grip just doesn't do it for me- I want a stick between my knees. In combat you need wing tanks for fuel, and weapon pylons all drag and not making maneuverable. So for an airshow the F-16 is great- for real combat.. F/A-18 blows it away!
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>>136015518
>being this mad that DCS is inferior to BMS
You have issues dude.

Or can a civil discussion not be had with BMS 4chan fags?
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>>136015518
Keep baiting and being a shitter that'll really get me to install BMS.
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>>136017136

never
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when rooooooooo
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>FSX on sale for $8

Is it worth getting just for the F/A-18 and practicing the systems and carrier landings in preparation for the DCS release?
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>>136025507
FSX stock planes aren't realistic in any way. They're like VEAO hawk.
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>>136026813

>stock

So does that mean there's a more accurate F/A-18C for FSX out there?

I'm aware of a F-14, but I'm hesitant on buying individual planes for FSX. Only the base package seems like a good value.
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>>136027738
Don't pay for anything FSX or P3D related unless you find some dev that you actually have a real desire to support financially. Everything is piratable, apart from Tacpack and the Superbug.
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>>136025507
It's worth it for the comfy flying and the navigation practice, but don't expect much from the flight modeling or the graphics outside of the aircraft models.
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>Watch a video how to start up the Mirage 2000
>Follow it to the teeth
>Get in the air
>Nose takes a dive once I slow down to 300 knots

Did I forget to turn on the FBW system? Also It should be noted I was carrying a full combat load with drop tanks.
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>>136029378
REMOVE THIS
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>>136028060
Where can I pirate me some P3D addons?
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>>136017136
>flying a plane with flaps
>flying a plane with horizontal stabilizers
>his plane doesn't even have elevons

>>136029390
You can't really fully turn off the FBW system, the various switches mostly disable certain aspects of it or reduce how aggressively it restricts your actions but I don't think you can fully disable it and you certainly wouldn't want to. I'm not sure what would have caused that dive though, can you try again and replicate the problem?
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>>136029552
no
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>>136028123
>don't expect much from the flight modeling or the graphics outside of the aircraft models

Yeah in general if you don't get any payware and never mod it.
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>>136029890
I just started from runway to see how it acts and It's flying fine and I did the same exact things I did after take off. No problems so far.

Here's the guide I watched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6E3k60sx6g
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>>136029378
>>136029552
>>136029928
No really. You'll end up summoning it.
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>>136029390
>>136029890
Ok so I thought about it some more and I maybe had an idea. There are three switches in a row on the bottom left panel which control the engine intake cones, the engine intake slats, and the wing slats. The first two are two-position switches with Retract-Auto settings, the wing slats switch is 3-position Retract-Auto-Extend. They should all be set to auto, but if you just flip the switches forward all the way then you'll accidentally manually extend the wing slats which may have fucked up your flying.
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How playable is BMS without a HOTAS? I only have a 3d pro for the foreseeable future.
>inb4 someone talks about flying with a gamepad
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>>136032674
I genuinely play BMS with a PS3 controller. Definetly doable.
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>>136030918
Already I started the Mirage from ramp start,followed the same guide and didn't nose dive. I even fucked with the switches you talked about and nothing.

All well, as long as I'm not falling out of the sky like that again I'm fine.
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>>136033047
The F35 has over 2x the simulation value of legacy aircraft
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>>136033789
Did you just say...

...F-35??????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqjjHDGWm4Q&ab_channel=ArmedForcesUpdate
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>>136033047
130% simulation baby
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>>136034015
>Pierre Sprey

Fucker doesn't know shit about my planefu
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Ops today were fun.

Make SEAD a player responsibility, get the enemy cap to spawn and we could have some actual organized ops.

Half fucking around is fun and all, but I want to do semi serious ops, like the BMS fags do.
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>>136035059
>BMSfags
>half serious
WE ARE SUPER SERIOUS LAD
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>>136035224
>>136035059
SEROUS BIZNESS
WEW LAD
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Does anyone have footage of /simg/ ops?
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>>136040124
It's not from the most recent ops but I can dump a few of my webms.
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>>136040374
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>>136040532
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As the host in BMS do I need to run IVC client in addition to the server?
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>>136046748
Yes, think so
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>>136046748
The client should start up when you connect to the server, same as it does when you connect to another server. Just put 127.0.0.1 as the IVC IP and you should be good.
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>>136048280
Who the fuck is HopeJ?
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>>136048537
someone who didn't get laid in college apparently
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>>136030285
FSX payware is uniformly too expensive
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>>136055939
there's a steam sale for fsx and some of the payware atm
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>>136035059
I like BMS ops because we TRY to be serious about it but are not autistic like a virtual squadron.
Also really love the fact how BMS ops always play out completely different from what you imagined. Makes it quite thrilling.
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Are there any smaller bms ops going on? If not, I could host my strong dprk save localy if theres an interest.
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>>136057979
When they happen they're all small, it's the DCS ops that spiral out of proportion and get too big for the level of communication people are willing to participate in.

You're damn right I'm salty.
>>
>brevity = autism
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>>136057979
>strong dprk
Can't wait to get fucked up by swarms of J11s
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>>136058176
Dont care about DCS ops. I am wondering if theres a group of people playing bms daily .
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>>136058362
>I am wondering if theres a group of people playing bms daily
No, bmshost is on holiday.
If you want 'em you'll have to organise them yourself.
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>>136058318
My campaign is already won and impossible to lose .
There are few operational dprk airfields but not enough to keep rok a-10s away from the dmz
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>>136058478
Have you ever actually won a campaign? As in you saw the ending video for a campaign?
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>>136058176
Man up and take charge then. You can turn these ghetto niggers into men yet.
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>>136059703
but then we're going to be called autists for using autist words
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>>136059703
>men
BUT WE DA BOYZ xDD
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>>136059314
Technically yes , it was my friends strong dprk campaign that he finished on his own, because all you could do is just wait for rok to roll in pongyang. Unfortunately I think that they removed thouse cutscenes in 4.33 .
And you get a medal for finishing a campaign
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>>136058176
Once you get like 10 people or more it's better to just do PvP, the amount of shit you have to put in a mission to make it fun for 10+ people is too much.
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>>136059743
>worried about what these faggots call you
You take being a submissive bitch to a whole new level.
>>
Tally a faggot at bulls 98 for 53
2 you are the shooter
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>>136059832
>10 people
>must do pvp cuz game cant support that
The things you could do with 10 people in BMS, a man can dream..
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>>136059997
>2 you are the shooter
'the' is actually omitted so it would be: 2 you are shooter
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>>136060028
Game can support that, but you have to be a really good mission maker to make it fun for everyone, and PvP is just way more fun anyway.
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>>136059703
Basically, most of the core /simg/ players are pretty decent but there are plenty who seem to think that they're hot shit and somehow above communication.

Reading a 300 page manual and operating complicated aircraft is fine but as soon as you try and get people to use radio discipline for half an hour, or god forbid the actual radio people lose their minds.

>>136059832
I have missions for 8-12 people, but there's no way we could manage them. Because the number of threats is too high in those missions for people who more or less just want to do their own thing.
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>>136059997
>bullseye

I get bullseye. However I don't get the mental calculation required to quickly resolve my position and their position, pointing my nose in the right direction without using the HSD.
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>>136060175
>plenty who seem to think that they're hot shit and somehow above communication
Are they too quiet or just spouting memes?
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>>136060137
You're right. The very rare occasion when we designate it we either use "supporting/shooter" skipping unecesary "you are" for example : "2 shooter ,1's suppoting"
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>>136060326
We're actually not too bad for meme-spouting, but the CSAR ops the other day were more or less impossible because the 6 man gunship flight never responded to any communication at all. and we had no idea where they were.
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>>136060253
You need a basic understanding of where the bullseye is (on the map) , where you are (relative to bullseye), what are your bulls right now ,what bulls is your target. Once you go through all of that ,wich takes less than a secound,you can easily have a general idea of where the target is.
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>>136060623
Where do they usually put the bullseye and where can I learn more about this terminology? I'm not talking about a glossary, but rather how they actually communicate in an engagement.
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>>136061236
http://forums.unitedoperations.net/index.php/topic/11074-bullseye-tool/
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>>136061607
Thanks!
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>>136060175
>>136060514
Sorry to bring this up all the time but in BMS you can't just ride the highway into the danger zone because you will die. You have to play together with your package.
Until DCS stops being a one-man show where all the hotheads are in it for their own glory it just does not qualify as a good sim for me.
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>>136061793
But your opinion is irrelevant.
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>>136062115
Why are DCS guys always getting so defensive?
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>>136062285
They're probably the hot shots who turn up for ops and think it's just like the 104 where everyone can do their own thing and get away with it.
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>>136062285
Well it's simple really?

Do you contribute to ops or its betterment?
No
Opinion not relevant.
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>>136062386
I get a nice warm fuzzy feeling from achieving something as a flight/package.
>tfw entire flight makes it back to base and lands together
I was also under the impression that lone wolfe types don't even make it through pilot school
>>
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2718959

wew
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>>136063521
It does that when it goes pitbull i think, and because the intercept logic on the missiles is retarded.
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>>136063521
Working as intended
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>>136063521
>clearly broken
>official response: working as intended
fuck this
>>
Anyone interested in BMS ops or the people that played the campaign, would you mind filling out this form so I know I should do for the next campaign

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1tZqfbl6BrmNhETZVPdrYZyCRWV4lSK3kWrRtiQoPUpk/viewform
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Is the Korean map in 4.33 fucked? I get 30 fps on that map but 70+ on other theaters.
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>>136065105
works for me(tm)

>>136064862
nice try nsa
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>>136061793
>DCS is a bad sim because of how a specific group of people play it.

This is how dumb you sound right now.


That being said, I'm tempted to learn BMS and get bullied till I get good because DCS ops are always unorganized fuck around sessions, even though the missions are pretty neat.
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>>136066342
Make sure you are naked while flying BMS ops
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>>136060514
The only, and I mean ONLY communication we received was someone coming into our channel and telling us to "stop memeing" as we were engaging/being engaged by targets in the valley.

t. kamov pilto
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Shall we moan on the forum about GBU profiles being fucked for the A-10
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>>136066880
Evidently it was the whisper lists fucking up then, because we gave up after trying to contact you like 10 times.

radio checks when?
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>>136064862
Strong dprk and git gud
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How to spook your A-10c AFAC in a MiG21
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>>136066880

Other Kamov pilot reporting in

That seriously rustled my jimmies.

Mirage and A-10s orbiting who knows where while we are getting butt fucked in the middle of the night by who knows what, and they tell us to stop memeing

Makes sense that the whisper lists were busted cuz both of us broadcasted where the shit was poppin off
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>>136067302
Fugg, forgot to atttach

Playing in a MP Campaign. Been great fun so far but the 21 really is limited thanks to its Radar.
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>>136067421
Before takeoff I propose we have a proper look at configuring them, setting up a proper orbat for the flights and checking comms work
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>>136067064
the next campaign will be balkans. strong dprk wont be the campaign we use for a while, since the campaign after balkans will likely be israel. we will use it eventually. i am considering doing at least 10-20 ops with the balkans campaign, same with israel.
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>>136067495
>I propose we have a proper look at configuring them, setting up a proper orbat for the flights
+1
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>>136067654
>BMS
>Has checklists for everything
>Literally Best Game in the World

>DCS
>No checklists
>smelly poop
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>>136067302
Get with the times rookie, its FAC(A).
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>>136067818
BMS has built in comms right?
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>>136068314
Yes. IVC allows for separate comms for flights and a main channel for the package
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>>136063521
Quality ED!
Working as intended!
Realism!
BUY MORE MODULES!

When will they learn?
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>>136067421
You guys should stop memeing then.
If you can't say anything besides memes than you should go play ace combat.
We were waiting for tasking from you guys, but apprently you fucks can't even set up whspier list.
Radio mod to weed out the shitters when?
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>>136069290
Ban Greg when?
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>>136066951
How are they fucked?
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>>136069004
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2719601&postcount=7

He explained it fairly well. Now all that remains is for ED to actually implement their promised missile changes they've been harping about for years.
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>>136071652
Missile AFM shouldn't have been implemented without the necessary guidance changes, the SFM missiles were functional, and would have served until now without anyone being mad at the missiles.
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>>136071652
Slavs will cry.
It will be a glorious day for gods plane.
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>>136071831
If they're as nasty as they are in BMS, it's going to be pretty fun.

AMRAAM modeled in BMS has inertial and if datalink is dropped early prior to pitbull it goes into MPRF and goes to last known.
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>>136069582
I love this picture. Still can't believe someone actually capped my shitposts and made this.
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>>136072505
it does that in DCS.
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>>136069290

Nigger I told you 10 times the grid coordinates. I even remember that it was LN10 in the village.

Why were we even in different channels anyway, it was like 8 people. Plus my whisper lists were set months ago during Blue Flag, so it was yours that was fucked you autistic baguette flying europoor.
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>>136072505
Slavs don't like fun.
The want balance.
They cry about aim-120s enough as it is, I can't imagine what it would be like if they are fixed. Then they'll start going MUH UGRADED SU-27 MUH BALANCE.
Dont blame the game faggots that's what you get for choosing a country that's 20 years behind.
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>>136072937
No one cries about the aim120 everyone cries about the SARHs which are absolute dogshit.
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>>136072618
Good it took me over 9000 hours in paint.
Have another.
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>>136073023
>No one cries about the aim120
Slavboos do.
Do you even play dcs.
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>>136073212
i do, and you are baiting.

fuck off craig.
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>>136073212
Do you?
Nah they complain about the ER that gets fooled by 2 packets of chaff. The AIM-120 can be dodged reliably, but at least it makes the target go defensive.
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>>136072669
Damn, should I be calling "CHEAPSHOT" then?
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>>136073265
Who the fuck is craig? Wow slavboos are delusional today.
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>>136073358
Slavs cry all the time about 120s.
You ever heard the word spammram throw around?
Stay mad Slav.
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>>136072869
You didn't say anything.
You just spouted memes.
Kamovs fucked that ops big time.
This is why BMS is better.
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>>136073368
It wont do much against a player, since nobody is going to stay flying straight.

But you can cheapshot someone once in a blue moon.
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>>136073749
Also forgot my nigle.
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>>136073592
>Stay mad Slav.
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>>136055939
Then save your pennies or pirate some shit. And dont ask me how to 'pirate' I dont fall for that weak bait.
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>>136071801
This desu

For all I know missiles in BMS are SFM tier but nobody gives a shit because it works well enough.
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>Terrorist attack in Belgium

Goddamnit nuke the middle east when.

Just kill all those goddamn ragheads.
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>>136073749

How did you hear my memes but not my request for CAS?

Protip: There was no memes.
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>in simg
>no tacview webums

:^(
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>>136077304
for some reason they don't record directly anymore and running replays in a pain
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>>136077394
anticheat, people can use it to view tacview in real time
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>>136076997
There was.
Radios would solve this.
But you guys are shitters.
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SO in about 1 hour I can host a small BMS session of my strong and scary dprk campaign.

Situation is looking good .Enemy ground force attack, together with chink fighters, was destroyed and its time for a counter offensive . Primary missions would be DEAD/OCA/Strike as its near midnight and low level ingress flights are possible . Chances of interception are quite slim as enemies are running out of planes to throw at us, but engineering battalions are on their way to repair the destroyed airbases on the west coast .

I will be idling in a TS channel so just hop into the channel
I do not expect any big turnout if any.

NOTE: This is STRONG DPRK wich means su 27 30 j -11 with many many r-77s So make sure you know the proper way to BVR engage and fox 3 defense
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>>136078561
>sure you know the proper way to BVR engage and fox 3 defense
so like one other guy in simg
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>>136078561
>That ops map

Fuck I wish DCS wasn't such a soulless sandbox sometimes.

Even Strike Fighters 2 had a cool dynamic campaign, with persistent damage and such.
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>>136067421
I literally updated the entire group on our location via BRA to BULLS, it doesn't surprise me that you are so incompetent to figure out how to read that. It's your own fault, furthermore we had a guy in the A-10 who spent the entire sortie bitching and moaning in chat and didn't have a microphone. The mirages were useless without the A-10s, we made our way over to LN10 to help but were promptly shot down by STRELA that wasn't reported in the briefing. Also, no idea who it is that is trying to imitate me but he's doing a damn good job.
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>>136079129
>Expecting a-10 piltos do anything

it's fine you'll learn soon enough while you are in the kamov you need
>Gitting gud
>not expect a10s to do anything
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>>136079129
Sound like quality DCS /simg/ ops. From a scale 0-/a3g/, how incompetent do yo think they were?
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>>136079651
From when i had time to play, where they killed all the friendly AA, and got shot down by one enemy roland, that's like 5 or so planes by a thing that has 2 missiles on it.

I'd say half an a3g
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>>136079651
Some people are competent, like Custard and Greg, some others are absolute crap.
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Say that to me in bvr kid and see what happens.
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>>136080550
How has this not been used yet. Holy shit simg, step it up.
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>>136079129
Saying LN10 is not fucking helpful you civilian shitter. Do you even fucking realize how large of an area that is? SPEC-I-FY your location, numbnuts. Don't just go silent.
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>>136080464
Custard sucks.
He can't even refuel with easy mode planes.
Greg also sucks.
He killed like 4 planes in a mid air collision caused soley by him.
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>>136071519
the profiles don't save properly in the DSMS
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Reminder that Greg thinks HUDS are magic TV's.
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>>136080889
The problem could be you selecting an individual strong point instead of the whole profile.

For example if you set you GBU-12 profile to CCRP mode, autolase to 15s and then save it it should work if you select the whole profile.

But if you select an individual strong point from the DSMS page it wont load your saved settings.
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>>136081571
I'm selecting the GBUs from the switch under the HUD
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>>136081803
DSMS > PROF > GBU-12 > VIEW PRO > MODE CCRP > SAVE

HUD as SOI > DMS Left/Right short to select profiles

If you are in GUNS mode and have HUD as SOI you will switch between different gun reticles so be sure you aren't in GUNS mode.

Why do you even need the UFC if everything is bound to the HOTAS is beyond me.
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>>136074753
Oh, don't get me wrong, I get plenty of freeware for it, and it is frequently better than the vanilla stuff. I'm just saying I'm not keen on normally paying $20 for a single airport or $30 for a poorly-modeled aircraft
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>>136083045
I don't have a HOTAS with a fuckload of binds
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>>136083083
I get you on the airports. Some payware aircraft depending on what you like to fly is good though. Depends on who made it.
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>>136083670
Then go play Baby Cliffs or something
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>>136084309
Say that to me in bvr kid and see what happens.
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>>135845164
Do I need Falcon 4 to play BMS linked in the OP?
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>>136078561
I'm game for BMS ops but need a bit more time in advance if you host
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>>136085062
Just the .exe
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I love flying but this video makes me want to drive every time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hJfBM2sRkQ
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>>136085307
Ill be in TS for a while
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>>136084309
Don't be a dick
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So people "hating" on BMS just do it because of their own insecurity? That's good to know.
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>>136086639
No it's because you keep baiting like in this post and continue being complete shitters, even after you've been told it will only back fire.
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>you will never drift an e34 m5 through the streets of kutasi and batumi drunk on cha cha.
Why even live.
>>
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>>136086740
Really? Because after reading the failure that is DCS ops I'm sure most dcs guys are just scared of BMS and lash out in defense.
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>>136087043
I don't play, no time, and since ivan for whatever reason made craigu admin, i don't think i will ever.

But not like i'm ever about to install BMS and play with you fags either.
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>>136086976
Poor hog :(
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>>136087043
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>>136087201
That's fine, we only need good people anyways.
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>>136087753
You
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>>136080748
But we told them in the village of LN10. Hard to be specific when it's pitch black, thunder storm, and you're under fire.

You can come fly the helis next time. The Kamov specifically, not a Huey that has auto aim night vision AI gunners.

He even admits to getting killed by a strela the second he showed up.

But we were the shitters.
We were the memers tho


Since when do attack aircraft rely on attack helicopters and not the other way around?
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>>136088086
GIIIIIIIIIT

GUUUUUUUUUD

also remove BMS from welcome games when?
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>>136083895
There's definitely high-quality payware aircraft out there, the R66 on Steam is pretty solid, if hamstrung by its use of the vanilla rotorcraft flight model
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Assetto Corsa, PCars or rFactor 2?

Looking for the most realistic experience but with a decent multiplayer.
PCars on a friends pc was just 3hr qualifying stages so I guess that's out already.
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>>136087043
>do a who gives a fuck ops to test a mission
>HURRR WHAT A SHIT GROUP WOW THEY CANT EVEN BE ORGANIZED
>THEY MUST BE SCARED
We were playing ops for fun.
This is why nobody in dcs ops wants to play BMS. You guys are elitest pricks. I'd like to fly without being talked down to by children who think they're Einstien reincarnated because they can flick some switches and work some flight systems.
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>>136088825
AC or Reiza, DiRT Rally.
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>>136088998
You seem to be more of a prick than the bms elite.
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>>136089172
t.BMS shitposter.
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>>136089308
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>>136089395
>proper DCS players complaining about lack of comms, coordination and proper knowledge of procedures
>point out flaws about it
>You are elitist BMS pricks who look down on others blah blah we fly for FUN, WE DA BOYZ XD

Is this shit real?
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>>136089792
>unironically being a 'this vs that' poster
wew, why not just play all games like a normal person.
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>>136089993
this
/simg/ banding to BTFO "x vs x" fags when
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>>136088825
Decent multiplayer is a statement that needs to be qualified, because no racing sim outside of iRacing has "good" multiplayer.

If you mean pick up and play randoms, Assetto Corsa is in my experience the best if you're in a European time zone. If in the US, then Project CARS gives you more flexibility, but then you have to deal with Project CARS.

The answer is a lot more nuanced than that though, which is why I ask what you're looking to get out of it.
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>fragging a mission
>random coms
"stud 2-1 I`ve become death , shadow of the worlds"
wat
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[desire to remove kebab intensifies]
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>>136087201
Kek did I shit in your Cheerios buddy? I'm only admin to police Greg's antics. Also I find it amusing that you fags reeeeee out at my admin bullshit. It literally means nothing.
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>>136089792
Tbh when I played airquake with custard and a few others we had good comms and brevity, also no memeing. We should return to those days.
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>>136090608
>Is on a anonymous board
>Wants nonspergs that get banned on forums in 3 seconds because they can't contain their retard levels
pick one.
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>>136090608
There's no more meming nowadays than there ever was, but effective comms are more difficult when you have a lot more people than we did back then.
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>>136089792
This desu senpai.
It was the dcs guys themselves who complained about dcs missions being shit.
But suddenly OH NO LE BMS BOOGEYMEN BMS BAN WHEN
cry more
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The mission last night was just to test it, the mission doesn't even have a proper briefing or images yet.

Regardless I've made a few changes to Operation Syrup Trap.

-SEAD is now player controlled
-Ground forces to both sides added alongside a player ground commander slot
-Enemt aircraft now spawn correctly

Hopefully we can fly this op sometime soon.


Also, on a side note, would anyone be interested in a more 'cinematic' style op? I have a few ideas but no spoilers.
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>>136091916
>>136089792
Cancer.
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>>136091974
REAPER IN EVERY OPS WHEN?
Also could we play that mission tonight?
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Will people ever stop with this tribalistic nonsense and just embrace the purity of flight?
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Can we all just hug and talk about planes being cool?
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>>136092334
Probably not, I have ground school tonight and don't have time today to finish it off.

We could maybe do it tomorrow tho.
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>>136092439
I'm with you, people need to just calm down and enjoy the view
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>>136092439
B-b-but Craig's an admin and he's gunna ban everyone!!
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>>136092504
PPL, CPL, IFR, ATP or military?
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>>136092342
It was like that for a few threads, then some shitter started with FC3 babby shit, because muh clicks, and then i suppose he started playing BMS since after that the MUH BMS shittery started, and strangely he FC3 babby shit died down.

We are dealing with a few extreme autists here.
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>>136092761
PPL, then hopefully CPL after I do my Avionics course.

Hopefully I only have to fly this 152 for a little while longer. I'm supposed to start flying a Cherokee soon.
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>>136092342
IM TRYING BUT THE DCS FAGS ARE IN FULL DAMAGE CONTROL MODE
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>>136092439
>>136092573
Yes please
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>>136092964
I dont think the BMS master race shitposter even plays BMS.
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Nth for "what flight sims have a competitive pvp scene?"
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>>136093215
airquake is super serious competitive with all the fc3 planes i swear
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>>136093117
I don't know he seems to have a lot of OC screenshots.

>>136093215
DCS has some PvP gunzo stuff.

And i suppose IL 2 should have it.
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>>136093215
104th server on DCS is as close as you're going to get to that.
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>>136093319
>>136093435
>>136093215
http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=469
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>>136093018
I had to laugh when someone parked a 172 on the helipad I launch from.

Also, is that Canada? It looks a lot like British Columbia
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okay let's try this again.

DCS
+lotsa airframes
+shiny
+easy mp
-like everything is broken
-shit missions

BMS
+dynamic campaign
+missiles actually work
+most realistic sim
-muh grafix
-shit netcode

Can we all agree to this? Even the dcs autists?
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>>136093758
>-shit missions
>+missiles actually work

No we can't
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>FC3 babbie
>started the Mirage for the first time with no guide or help.
>No warnings

Are you proud of me daddy! I even went through the proper clearances!
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>>136093890
YOU FAILED THE CHECKLIST CADET,,,,,,,,

U R COURT MARSHALLED ;;;)
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>>136093848
ITT: delusions
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>>136093319
>>136093365
>>136093435
>>136093684
Why all the backlash, do you guys hate fun or something? Get rekt online once or twice?
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>>136093758
>+lotsa airframes
And they all suck.
>-shit missions
As shit as the mission maker makes them, so it really depends.
>+most realistic sim
kek

For me, DCS will be stuck being kinda sucky until it gets the F/A-18C. The reason DCS has a bad rap for missions is that we don't have any airframes capable of the fun/cool missions.
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>>136093697
Yep. That pic is about a week old, this is the weather in Beautiful British Columbia today.

Was supposed to practice spins but it seems it's a bit too windy today.
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>>136094154
au contraire my good watson,
>join 104th
>fly around for an hour
>shoot down an f15
>fly around some more
>server crashes
104th is THE hotspot for serious team oriented tactical large scale flightsim pvp.
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>>136094340
Ah it's just a shit server

Well carry on, time to go back to ppl studying
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>>136094154
Here's your (You)
>>
>Interdiction on engineering batallion in BMS
>Grab cbu`s/lgb`s
>hit all the targets and destroy the batallion
>My AI wingman AAR GBU-12 kills :3 misses 1 hit :taxiway sign-damaged
Why is AI so bad at laser bombs ?
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>>136094339
That fuckin' blows, having to cancel for weather is a huge kick in the dick every time.

Do you have any pics from aloft? I turn into a faggoty shutterbug when I'm flying. I entertained the idea of going up today to get some snow-covered landscape pics, but the reality of flying being expensive and the winds being almost 20 knots put the nix on that.
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>>136093758
Everything except for the fact that DCS has a bunch of planes and BMS has a dynamic campaign is debateable.

For example I've only once had trouble with net code in BMS and that was in a 12 ship flight and only immediately after takeoff. It all sorted itself out after a few minutes and worked just fine for the rest of the mission and with all 12 planes landing within minutes of each other with no lag or warping. The problem at mission start looked to me like the hosts connection was just fucking up.

BMS vs DCS mission argument comes down to the age old scripted missions versus procedural open world style of game. Both have pros and cons.
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>>136091974

Yeeaaaaaahhh boi. I call SEAD, that shit is fun.

Keep up the good work bruh

>>136093215

Blue Flag for DCS was pretty competitive, in the sense that it was taken seriously and both sides were actively trying to win.

Blue Flag should be 24/7. Most fun you can have in DCS IMO.... When it works.

BMS is so fucking lucky to have such an amazing dynamic campaign. Blue flag gave DCS players something new to do every time they got on.
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>>136095935

>that cockpit shutterbug feel
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>>136096592

CNATRA Hawk skin when?
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>>136094256
Is that 50 million hours in paint?
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>>136091974
Can you PM craig a copy of the maple syrup mission so I can play it tonight? New or old it dosent matter.
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Aight boys, let's beat that image limit.
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>>136096592
That looks oddly like a facebook filename
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>>136100254
What the hell do i post ?
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>>136096819
As does that
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>>136101408

saved it from an album upload
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>>136101478
Planes and helicopters, possibly even blimps and gliders

Also, if you have cockpit shutterbug pics, share those, because they're always awesome
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>a3g
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>>136101796
Nice.
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Reminder to cage your missiles after switching a target
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I want to LARP as a pilot, which sim is for me?
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>>136095935
I haven't really took many pics up in the air yet because I fly with an instructor and I'm more focused on learning my shit right now anyway
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>>136104747
Falcon BMS.
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>>136097410
Sure, I have some time cuz I just finished flying I can try and finish it off too.
>>
Anyone up for flying some BMS RIGHT NOW?
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>unironically playing fc3
FC3 is a cancer that is killing dcs. Might as well play hawx than this shit.
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>>136104747
Whichever you want, it really depends on how seriously you take it.
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>>136107038
But its late
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>>136107265
no it's not faggot, it's only 22:28hrs
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>>136107316
but
>muh jerb
>muh i have a laif
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>>136107316
>being 10 hours ahead of god's time zone
I bet you don't even watch Apple(TM) press conference events live
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>>136107038
where were you 2 hours ago when I was up for flying?
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>>136107837
I was training my dog to fuck shit up.
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>>136108096
Your German shepard?
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Who would win an engagment between DCSfags and BMSfags?
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>>136108442
What are they flying?

also source?
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>>136108442
BMSfags because they know how to actually keep situational awareness, and are capable of relaying information efficiently
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>>136108442
The one that actually simulates more than one plane properly.
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>>136108442

BMSfags because their missiles are superior, and the BMS F-16 is more advanced than anything in DCS.
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>>136107038
just gonna watch anime until i fall asleep, sorry m8
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>>136108442
Kill yourself
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>>136109728
No.
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>>136108442
What kind of engagement?
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ded tred
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>>136110654
>>136112519

Mods can we please ban this off topic nigel posting?

Thanks.
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OPS GATHERING IN TEAMSPEAK. POSSIBLE OPS! GET IN HERE
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>>136113525
Why ts?

Fucking Discord with its lag is better than ts
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>>136112592
>bump thread to keep it from dying
>get shat on
fuck off

>>136113525
>>136113767
TS a shit, switch to mumble when?
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>>136112592
But a mod is doing the nigel posting...
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>>136113525
Tell me about it first. If it's more cloudy rainy night shit you can forget it.
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>>136114468
Apparently we're doing A-10C practice ops or something baka
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>>136114730
I might join that if you needed CSAR choppers.
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>>136116518
not this time
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>>136116518
QUICK POLL:

I want to make a Chopper Op but Caucus is boring as fuck to fly on in a chopper. So I wanna know how many people have Sand or plan or having Sand soon.

http://strawpoll.me/7157515
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>>136116787
Sand is too expensive right now
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>>136116787
trump towers OPS when
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>>136116787
I have sand but I never fly in it because it's a small map and everybody plays 1.5 anyway.
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>>136116787
What is this sand you talk about?
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>>136117971
>he bought sand
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Friendly reminder that BMSfags would be nothing without their model enlarging cheat.
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>>136119061
Friendly reminder that DCSfags would be nothing without their impostors and L A B E L S
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>>136119061
Today I noticed that I have been flying without smart scaling for a month . DCS ground textures are so shit wich makes spotting aircraft impossible
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>>136119240
>flying with labels or impostors
Why not fly with unlimited fuel and weapons too?
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>>136118928
The Nevada terrain.

>>136117971
Yeah it definitely still needs work but for Heli Ops its perfect.
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>>136118928
Okay. This might be stupid, but isn't the alpha free?

I thought it was like DCS 1.5, being the "base" for all modules.
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>>136122869
>>136122869
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>>136120395
You only get it free if you bought the A10C during beta.
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