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>What is BDO?
Black Desert Online is an MMORPG by Pearl Abyss that was recently released for western audiences, with additional changes. It's a sandbox MMORPG that features action-oriented combat, open world PVP territory control, trading, player housing, and more.
Info from the site: http://i.imgur.com/r7VvB6h.png

>/bdog/ guilds
http://pastebin.com/gXs1p6YX

>Guides
http://pastebin.com/VH3XrCYb

>Maps and nodes
http://blackdesertfoundry.com/map/#4/-8.89/-25.22
http://www.blackdeserttome.com/map/

>Useful Links
Wiki: http://www.blackdeserttome.com/wiki/BDO_Tome
Skill Calculator: http://www.blackdeserttome.com/calculator
Class Armor Sets: http://wodox.imgur.com/
Else: Google it before posting

>BDO KR/JP info + differences between NA/EU
http://pastebin.com/P2YqnsCX

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>>135668636
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>>135715274

>He hasn't played Kingdom Hearts

Plebian pls
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First for how the fuck can I unlock this quest if not via Amity?
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Reminder to eat a healthy breakfast to get your day started off right /bdog/~
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>>135715356
It doesn't update your options until you leave the NPC menu and initiate conversation with them again.
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>>135715418

I'll give you a thick, hot breakfast cutie.
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>Join Baka
>The "community" is a circlejerk of like 8 guys who regularly sperg out at all the other members
>Elitist and tryhard as fuck
>Despite this the guild is a joke on the server and is only ever capable of beating bottom of the barrel shitter guilds like YC
>Literally piss themselves in fear and change channels the moment any guild that's actually relevant bothers to give them attention
>Leave Baka

lmao what a joke
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>>135715430
I did that but still nothing
Same thing happened to another NPC that would give knowledge
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>>135715418
Ate leftover pizza and drank soda feels good.
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Remember to buy the latest $30 costume, daumcuck.
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>>135715468
Sounds like Pettan Co. But the circlejerk mostly just ignore everyone else instead of sperging them.
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>>135715418
I only eat once a day, saves me a lot of time
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>>135715676
Even I eat at least twice a day. Please take better care of yourself, anon
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>tfw can't use npc armours

feels bad man, this whole castle is full of fucking sexy armour sets
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>>135715418
>tfw soylent twice a day every day
Literally all that's needed.
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>>135715769
but I don't get hungry before 18, than I eat a lot and doesn't get hungry again before the next day

>>135715879
about how much does it cost per month and how fucked up is your toilet?
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>>135715850
I wish this processing set was actual armor. Look at how comfy this shit is. Why does Valkyrie only get dresses and chainmail miniskirts?
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>>135716136

>Not wanting easy access when you subdue and bend over an enemy Valkyrie
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BUILD A WALL
SHUT IT DOWN
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>>135716416
I don't see the problem with this.

Why would you even need to use the forum if you've not bought the game?
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>>135716416
I don't understand.
Fair enough in early access or whatever, but why would you possibly do that on release?
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Transferring characters between servers costs $$$, right?
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Do I have to wait a few hours to not sell my fish at 30%?
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>>135716490
New potential good goys can't ask questions, for example.
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>This damned rock. It brings me no money and it's a pain in my ass. Buy this, please.
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Too generic?
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>>135716490
You want to be welcoming to potential new players.
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>>135715218
Is balenos e1 dead? Was in the middle of an ancient scroll party and I DC'd, can't connect to it.
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>>135716869
It's still up for me, though a tad laggy here and there
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>>135716931
Edan? Couldn't connect. We had went through 4 of the scrolls already, and I used mine, so I won't be called a scammer. Just weird it keeps booting me.
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>>135716802
Pretty sure Cuck Wars 2 forums is only postable if you brought the game as well. And that game is f2p now I think.
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>>135716975
Yeah. I'm still in doing trade runs for the current 200% rate, I'm just getting some lag in Trade Manager menus
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Is there anything you can do to actually harm other players that adds real danger to the game? Or is PvP just plain old PvP where you lose nothing when you die?
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>>135717196
She IS going to fuck that horse, right?
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>>135717141
Shame, missed out on the last bosses loot. Oh well, Ancient Scrolls is probably the worst. Definitely selling my relic shards from now on.
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>>135717179
You lose XP when you die in PvP
>tfw looting fucking never.
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theres no black spirit quest to get past 180 energy, whats the limit and how high are you guys
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>>135717356
>how high
DUDE
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>>135717356
>he thinks 180 is the limit
adorable
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>>135717356
I have 158 energy, 137 contribution
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How good does this game run on old computers if at all? And how bad is the Pay to Win scene; lastly, if I get ganked in PvP do they loot everything I own?
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>>135717484
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>>135717347
So actual consequences from player interaction and non-existent?
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Is mommy fat, anon-kun?
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>fishing all day
>200K silver per hour
>super comfy all the time through

why are you guys not fishing?
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>>135717743
>200K silver per hour

That's why.
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>>135717743
>only 200k/h
>Super comfy all the time through
I don't mind people fishing but I actually do wonder how they can find it funny doing nothing and just watching a screen and not even making much money.
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>>135717576
The XP loss is a pretty big deal later on.
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>>135717743
I'm busy collecting all these hard, stiff logs.
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>>135717743
>>200k/h

I make around that on the silver my pet collects alone in Serendia shrine
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>>135717743
>200k/h
What?
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>>135717867
Still sounds lame to me. You can always get it back no problem.

EVE sounds like the only MMO where danger in player interaction truly exists. Too bad I don't ever want to actually play that "game".
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>>135717837
fishing is the only proffesion where you can actually do something at the same time as you're shit posting.
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>>135717743
>I sit there, pressing one button occasionally for hours and act like it's good gameplay
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>>135717983
>You can always get it back no problem.
Nah anon, we're on about losing days of progress from just one death
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>>135717743
How do you people even sell your fish?

I can't over half of the time sell any of my fish due to the fucking node shit.
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>>135718105
A lot of fish are actually worth more dried on the market, sometimes a lot more considering you can get 3 or 4 fish per single fish
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>>135718105
maybe don't be a retard
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Is there anything interesting to do in this game besides ERP?

>>135717983
Why? EVE is great as long as you aren't socially inept.
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>>135718105
you can just sell it to the node manager at luviano island for a good price.
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>>135718204
Because I don't feel like coming home to play a numbers game every day.
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>>135718204
>>Why? EVE is great as long as you aren't socially inept.
I like my games to have actual gameplay
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kek
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>>135718272
And yet here you are playing AFK simulator.
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>>135718076
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>>135718269
It's not a numbers game unless you make it that way. You can come home, go on a roam with some friendos, and be back by the time your wife is done with the steaks.
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As cheesy as it was, I honestly didn't expect that twist.
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>>135717315

you could say that she's already been inside of it.
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>>135718546
i didn't even know what was going on the entire time
skipped every cutscene desu
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>>135718376
>wife
No
>steaks
I wish

Doesn't the game eventually turn into a numbers game though? I never hear anything about EvE from a PvE perspective. Everything in PvP is how much something was worth or how much ISK someone was carrying.
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>>135718546
That whole cutscene was really weird
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How's my waifu guys
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>>135718776
Michelle?
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What?
You can actually get wet?
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>>135718546
It was the only cutscene i watched in the entire game, makes me kinda sad as i heard afterwards that Taz Zonday was supposed be somewhere
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>>135718881

damnit, i kek'd
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How is the story in this game? Is it epic like FFXI's.
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>>135719259
It gets pretty bad towards the end.
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What does skill awakening do and what should i use it on on my sorc?
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>>135719259
It doesn't really culminate in anything but it has good potential. I imagine it'll just become "eks dee light vs. darkness DETERMINATION" tripe though since Koreans suck at story in their games.
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Opinions of my red head family?

The top images are how they currently look and the bottom images are how they will look after the appearance change.
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>>135719259
It's okay if you don't pay attention to Jordine and Belmorn's story, focusing only on the Black Spirit's story

>>135719491
Whatever you use the most. Awakening will give you one of several possible effects when you use that skill. For example, one of the rolls you could get with Tamer's Void Lightning was a burn DoT
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>>135718980

What kind of horrifying physics defying tits are those
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>>135719692
The changes are definitely better but the middle one still looks like shit
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>>135718947

It'll even have effect on certain clothes.
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>>135719692
we arr rook the same
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>>135719692
The faces of unoriginality.
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>>135718947
You have bladder issues?
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>>135718947
you make me wet
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Why are the BDO forums such utter cancer? Everyone posts like maniacs on there but they're all paranoid and hate Daum. I don't get it. It's like some kind of localized reverse stockholm syndrome where they loathe the game/its publishers but still stay there.
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>The account authorization key has expired
SEND
HELP
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Is there a trial or some shit? I don't want to blow 40 bucks if I don't like it.
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>>135720326
buy the game
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>>135720386
play the jap version
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>>135719827
Heh, funnily the middle one is my favorite.

>>135719889
That's kind of the point, a redhead family.

>>135720143
How do you make an "original face" in this game? Please give some examples of good original faces.
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>>135720460
I BOUGHT THE GAME WEEKS AGO
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Is there a better spot than Chimeras at 40/41?
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>>135720587
If you removed all color from the image they would still all look the same.
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I love my edgefu
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Rate my slut, friends.
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>>135720760
>somehow looks generic yet worse than default face

how
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>>135720616
>Twitch viewers on a MMO
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>>135720760
>default sorceress

literally sweatshop-made slut
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>>135720736
me too
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Why does the Berserker gotta be such shit?
I picked the class knowing they were weaker to start, but this netcode and desyncing is driving me up the wall.
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>>135720908
I like your eyes
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>>135721010
Warrior superior in every way to beserkurrr
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>>135721010
Friend, wait until zerker Awakening. They become easily the most OP class.
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>>135721010
Either git gud or git styled on.
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>>135720736
>Wanted to make her angry
>Just looks sad all the time
>tfw
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>>135720760

i actually like the way she looks; she's got interesting features, somewhat burlesque, and trixy. my conservative estimation is a solid 7.5/10

also, bdog has fucking incredibly harsh critics. don't listen to most of them and post your waifu as often as you like... *bites lips*
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>>135721307
What the fuck is this post?
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>>135721274
>tfw I don't know you're mad or sad.
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>>135715218
>The NA/EU builds also do not have the blader/plum & kunoichi/ninja classes planned for release.
Isn't it about time to update that?
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>>135721274
Sad is cute, easy target for bullying
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>>135721353
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>>135721307
Kill yourself
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>>135716802
>>135716725
Make a pleb subforum and lock rest of the discussion forums
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>>135721353
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>>135721485
no bully
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>>135721573
That'd be fine.
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anyone else only getting variations of aqua from the event green dye box?
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>T1 male
>T2 female
>get T3 male with braids
I'm okay with this
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>>135721993
Yep. Waiting until the end of the event before I use any on my Ranger
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>>135721993
yes, it's pretty hilarious considering it's meant to be a st. patricks event. just shows how lame the dye system is
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>>135721993
Yeah, haven't received a single green coloured dye yet.
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where the hell is the entrance to this "cave"?

I can hear shit making noise underneath me around this area on the map, but I can't find the entrance anywhere around here so I assume it's further away

ideas?
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Can't decide what armor to go with on valk.
3 piece agerian with talis shoes or crit gloves?
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>finally get my Yuria Longsword to +15
>AP still isn't even above 90

Why is warrior AP so shit?
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>>135723018
Shoes.
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>>135723841
Ranger here. I have 90 ap without equipping my mainhand weapon since I like unequipping it doing crafting. What accessories do you have?
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>>135723841
Because you are too poor to get good accessoires shitter.
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>>135724043
Post picture please. I really want to see those 2+ ogre ring, 2+ witch earing and 2+ mark of shadow accessories.
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>>135724029
Are valks really that slow in pvp?
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>>135718760
Eve is a shit game that no one cared about untill they spamed 4chan and various sites with their marketing team.

It's a horrible game for so many reasons but above all else theirs no resets , so the guys playing since the start have a HUGE advantage over new players , and a lot of skills are leveled through nothing but sheer time , their just is no catching up to older players.
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>>135720269
Because people can still make free accounts on the forum.
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>>135724259
fuck off normie
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>>135724259
you can buy Skill Injectors now for 600 mil :^)
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>>135724183
>tfw you have a thick + hourglass butt
>tfw its embarassing shopping for pants
>tfw the guy helping me at the shop says I have wide hips
y-you too
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>>135724475
Nice try.
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Should I keep that? Dropped from some mob
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>>135724475
Thick and hourglass look completely different though.
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>>135724621
No I wouldn't keep that face
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What you guys think? Inspiration from Joel from TLOU.
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>>135724705
Feels bad man
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>>135724475
>thick ''hourglass''
Sure thing fatass.
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>>135724259
You have no idea how eve works. More time = more skills, but usually that only gives you additional skills in completely different areas of the game (market, industry, pve, pvp, manufacturing, capital, transport, etc.)
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>>135724475
Nah ur just fat lol
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>>135724259
>a lot of skills are...
No you fucking idiot, every skill is learned over time. It's a great system, one that other games should at least partially adopt.
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>>135724843
>>135724874
>fat
I wish
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>>135724763
Husbando/10, can I come hug you?

I would've gone with a different hair color though, but it doesn't look bad.
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>>135724928
its ok I love men with a bit of flubber
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>>135724763
You're like the only male in /bdog/ next to rainbow nigga.
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>>135724763

I like it.
Here, have an awkward smile.
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Made some tweaks. How'd it come out.
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>>135724763
DILF
dominate me please daddy
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>yfw Master Baiter is a title

huehuehue guys
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>>135725412
Red hair and green eyes don't work at all with the tan.
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>>135725412
>My elbow strength grows.
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>>135725017
thanks, and that would depend if you're on Jordine. (but seriously I don't rp).

>>135725153
Well until the Kunoichi comes out (I always main female assassins), I normally roll with tank.

>>135725187
damn you really captured that awkward but slight cuteness there.
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>>135725505

Woulda gone with a whiter skin but all the pale skins in this game look really bad.
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>>135725603
>Jordine
Actually yes.
>no RP
That's too bad.
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>>135725494
Do you have it? if not you're fucked, was beta title only.
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Watch out for the edge.
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>not even 1 minute in the game and I have already hit a wall
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Is the story worth giving a fuck about or is it just generic "AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS"
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>>135724831
tfwnopbf/10
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Why the fuck is there no camera offset option? You can LITERALLY do it in screenshot mode, why the fuck can't you do it normally?

>>135726079
Yes, it's you.
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>>135726162
>Yes, it's you.
That sucks, I was hoping your little nigger would turn out to be the good guy all along
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>>135726198

>No chest
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>>135725767
I like it.
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>>135725412
still looks a bit like JL
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>>135726079
Okay you have the ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS and THE ANCIENT EVIL REALLY AWAKENS in one story. Then in the other you're an amnesiac hero who doesn't even remember the power they sought, so you go around gaining fame and sometimes you rescue some kittens.

The first story is really dull and its main characters (Jordine, Orwen and Edan) are all terrible. Black Spirit carries the rest, though
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>>135726198
That eye makeup is really bizarre.
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>>135726553
MUH CATS
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>>135726553

So for the decent story you just ignore all the times in the story the faggot spirit tries to get you to do other shit?
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>>135726719
The opposite.
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Lads should I purchase this game or not?
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>>135726593
Thank you, that was the idea behind it.
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>>135726071
Just type in something to reflect your power level, it worked for me
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>>135726719
No, for the decent story you only listen to the Black Spirit and turn your brain off every time you get a Jordine, Orwen, Edan, that sidekick girl who I forgot the name of or the Alchemist trio cutscene. You can't skip the Belmorn story if you want to hit level 50, or you get locked at 49, so just turn your brain off for them all. Especially the ones where Jordine says the dumbest shit.

>You shall be the cannonball with which I destroy the castle's walls
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>>135726943
Are you telling me to pick an anime name
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>>135726941
np, looks cute besides the facepaint that triggers my eppu trauma
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>>135727025
Nigger every hobby has power levels
Just use something patrician tier
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>>135727025
Or an artist name or anything that normalfags doesn't know shit about
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>>135727128
I don't have a power level.

Have I become a normalfag

Is this what getting a job does to people
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>>135722362
I wasted like 2 hours on that quest line. Its down below, follow the coast from velia. In one of the big rooms in that cave will be a small crack leading to a hidden room.

The next quest after this is the same sort of thing where theres a lower level area and a hidden crack with a room. Oh and even though you can turn the quest into an npc right after, make sure you use your completed map while standing in that room first. That finishes the quest all the way.
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>>135727330
Ignore that, I thought you were doing that treasure map quest in velia. Just saw you were in calph now
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>>135727275
Use a normie powerlevel.
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what is an acceptable AP/DP to start PvP ? I have only around 80/82 right now
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>>135727275
How about an artist name from sadpanda than?
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>>135726868
I'm really enjoying it. If you are looking for instanced dungeons and raids or for deep pvp you will be disappointed, but it has a nice fake sandbox wrapper that is quite fun.
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>>135727536
I'm not even sure I have one of those. I don't do normie shit. I don't do much of anything on my own either.

Damn dude I don't actually do anything.
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Where do I start when trying to make money? Like, can I just kill weasels or whatever in the starting town and skin them for leather and make 1m/h like that?
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>>135727658
Use that "nothing" as your name then, use something like.

WhoAmI

or something weird like that. This one looks bad as an example.
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>>135727275
>Is this what getting a job does to people
Yeah but you have money to buy lingerie at least.
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>>135727924
I sure do.

I come home from work every day and browse video game sites, but never play them. This is my life.
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>>135727929
Why don't you just try to pvp and see for yourself?
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>won't play a female character because I'll never make it out alive with a good looking character
true suffering
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>>135728102
because its obvious 80/80 isnt enough but idk what anyone else has
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>>135728148
the default faces look amazing
just pick one that you like the most
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>>135728304
But then I'll be a disgusting clone everyone will look down on.
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>+15 my weapon with one stone
>now instead of a fail stack I have a fat stack of weapon stones
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>>135728397
you don't have to be a special snowflake
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>>135724763
Husbando material.
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>>135728148

why don't you just find some character templates online?
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>>135728603
Where at?
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>tfw no dance emote
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>>135728503
tfw level 45 with no idea on how to get weapon stones
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>>135728713
>>
Bronze or steel dagger on Ranger?
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Hotspot fishing is going so slow lately- what method are y'all using to sniff out new ones? Using the Player Finder to find the top fisher on different servers?
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What shield should I use on a Valk?
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>>135729496
Brutal Gladiator Shield Wall
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Thanks doc
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>>135728713
T O R P E D O
T I T S

>>135729286
steel unless you want to pvp people above your level
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>>135729286
bronze for farming red/purple mobs and pvping people atleast 2 levels higher than you
steel for everything else
i just carry both a bronze and a steel +7 dagger
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how many rerolls do you have /bdog/?
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>>135729046

why is it so hard to make a western sorc NOT look like avril lavigne?
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>>135729889
1. Though not sure for how much longer.
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>>135728274
The game is too new for there to be any set ap/dp that you need before doing PvP because you'll just find so many people who are at different stages of the game.

Go out and fight people until you get bored of being shit on then grind more.
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>>135729790
Isn't it just wonderful?
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>>135730526
server?
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>>135730256
alright. still trying to find a way to grind stones. Ive had to buy them all the way to 45 basically.
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>>135730772
Boss scrolls
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Blader and Ninja can't come fast enough. Not just because I like the idea of the classes, but also because there's a serious lack of eyecandy for those of us who actually like men. Giants just don't do it for me, and old men are... old men, so that leaves only warriors. And most of the guys who play warriors barely bother to even change hair/eye colour on the presets, never mind take the time to make an attractive character.
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>>135730885
>Boss scrolls
Ya thats what people have been telling me as well but i dont know how to get them. AFAIK dailies give them but thats all im aware of
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>>135731057
Mobs in places like Mansha Forest and Rhutum can drop certain scrolls, plus the dailies you get later on. You could also buy some with loyalty, but it isn't a wise decision considering mob drops are a possibility
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>>135731057
You've gotta be level 45+ and have finished the black spirit quests before level 45 (for some reason mine didn't show up until I was 49- then I got all my level 40 quests). Black Spirit should start giving you a scroll every day. You can also buy them with loyalty, fish them out of hotspots, or find from drops.

Speaking of hotspots, I'm stuck at the Velia hotspot. Every time I try to go to shore the game crashes.
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>>135730726
Edan
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>>135731365
>>135731236
mmm alright. I think ive done every black spirit quest other than exalted character 3 and world of knowledge 2
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sadfu is sad
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>>135731546
Yea you don't need those- you've done up to the Cyclops, then? And the boss needed to go to level 50?
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C-can you turn a blue weapon back to green? I forgot to repair mine before upgrading.
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>>135731365
>Speaking of hotspots, I'm stuck at the Velia hotspot. Every time I try to go to shore the game crashes.
shit happened to me too. Had to find a new hotspot. restart your comp and change channels and pray it doesnt crash. after a day or so it never happened to me again
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Anyone got a skill guide for wizz/witch? I don't know what to level.
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>>135731708
What do you think? Follow your heart to the truth.
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>>135731631
Be sure to use the Depressed title
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>>135731631
>>135731924
Use the 'Hated by the Black Spirit' title instead so everyone knows you've been raped by it.
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Can someone just give me a fucking family name that isn't complete shit. Make it some generic fantasy shit.
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>>135731976
Qumdumpe
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>>135732067
Hide it a little better and I'd go with it.
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>>135731708
>Turning blue weapon green

how to even do
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>>135731861
Maybe, yes, it sounds like it could go backwards.
thanks so much anon
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>>135731794
I got as close as I could and used escape and it worked for some reason.
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>>135732170
use your usual online alias. if you have steam just use your steam name.Use a version of your last name. Use a version of your last and middle name put together. Be creative
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>>135731965
Oh, that's a good idea
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>>135732359
>Be creative
My creativity apparently died sometime between high school and the second half of college.
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>>135731965
>>135731924
For the uninitiated these actually lower your black stone success rate.
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>>135732468
>american school system
im not surprised. Creativity isnt allowed here.
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>>135731965
I have the weirdest boner right now
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>>135732483
Do all characters use the same applied title or can you apply different ones?
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>bargain successful after 1 try
>get interrupted by a fucking stone crab out of no where
>bargain successful again after a few more tries
>inventory is full
just
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>>135720760
Where are the curves?
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>>135720760
Sims character / 10
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>>135732649
They need to fix that shit
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>>135732649
>bargaining
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>>135731375
I really wish server transfers existed, I hate being stuck on spic-kraut servers.
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i must be the weakest level 50 out there
how to git gud?
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>>135733313
Do your dailies.
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How does this make you feel?
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Does she look legal or underage?
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>>135733417
did you base your character out of templar assassin?
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>>135733417
That's pretty fucking good anon
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>>135733417
Impressive
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>>135733473
Could be an 8 year old.
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>>135733417
Thanks doc
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>>135733417
Give us that char file.
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>>135733473
43 with a very strict healthy diet and daily exercise.
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>>135726868
It's pretty similar to guild wars 2/ Elder scrolls online.


Honestly if you buy the $50 pack and spend another $50 on inventory slots and weight limit increase the game is pretty decent. But try playing without those extra slots+weight limit and game is hell.
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>>135733780
>bought the $30 pack
fug
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>>135733417
Tyrande...
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>>135733417
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT WE HAD ENOUGH OF FUCKING BLIZZARD PLS STAAAHP
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>>135733473
Everything's legal in Medina
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>>135733780
I haven't bought a single inventory upgrade and the game is fine. What are you even talking about?
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>>135733057
(You)
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>>135733849
Ouch, the horse flute is amazing since it's like 10x the range of a normal whistle and all the flutes in game tend to be of limited duration

Tier 3 horses are pretty much the best you can get atm since theirs so much competition and limited breeders

Pets are a" MUST HAVE" , since they loot for you and make gatherable nodes glow otherwise enjoy running around mindless waiting for the icon to pop up.
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>>135733417
Holy shit thats fucking gold
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>>135734156
Guess I'll see if I can upgrade.
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>>135734156
You can see nodes from a mile off anyway after you've played enough.
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>>135727602
If you don't have at least 100 ap and 120 dp you're going to do nothing to anyone and get popped like a pimple.
>Facing a sorc with 120 ap/150dp
Fuck that class.
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>>135724763

You need to put in some effort in making older characters.

Just having grey hair doesnt make an older character. Just 19yr old kid with a shitty cosplay.
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>>135734272
you can buy them separately in the cash shop. See if you like the game first before dumping more money
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>>135734348
kite them ya nerd
they're the easiest class to dodge away from
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>>135734348
>120 dp
thats at least +10-15 everything right
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>>135733780
>don't learn how to play efficiently
>burning 100$ to win on a what was known as a free-to-play before it crosses our western borders
>overcompensating this act of desperation by telling other anons to do the same mistake
>>
>I picked Tamer

How badly did I fuck up?
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>>135734508
that's not using the accuracy offhand and having enchanted JEWELRY
120 is A SHIT TON and is beyond what 99.9% of everyone has
100 AP would be a lot
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>>135733978
second season when
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>>135733780
>But try playing without those extra slots+weight limit and game is hell.
not really
just use your storage space efficiently
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This game looks fun and relaxing, I'm really bad at action combat though and I also have a ten year old computer.

Would it be possible for me to play this?
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>>135734624
I said dp not AP lol I understand 120 AP is insane
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>>135735015
Do you pray to Jesus Christ every single day?
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>>135735015
>ten year old computer
It's impossible.
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>>135734864
This. There are so many items in the game that you need to manage so you're still gonna run into inventory problems if you don't think about it. The only hellish thing is when you try to sell shit to clear space and you can't because your fucking inventory is full.
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>>135735071
CAN'T SWITCH NUMBERS ON ME ANON
THEY SAID 150 DP

120 DP isn't all too much. Maybe +11 all around.
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My name is Stunt "Shogun" Flores

Guys I had the most amazing dream last night. I dreamt that I got married to Kato Marika!

She looked absolutely beautiful and my heart was overflowing with pride and admiration. As she led me to her captain's quarters and shut the door watched her make her way to her bed and laid there in her wedding dress with anticipation in her eyes. As I began to get undressed the doors burst open and in walked three massive thug niggers. They shoved me to the side and I fell in a chair next to the bed.

These brutes tore off most of Kato Marika's wedding dress and started fucking her relentlessly. I recognized them as members of her crew and I watched as those massive nigger dicks that were four times bigger than mine were completely ruining her holes. As that thick black meat rod tore free from her mouth and throat she said "Now sit there like a good little cuck and be grateful you get to watch." At that point I didn't feel upset or angry. As a male feminist I respected her life choices.

I reached out and held her hand, reassuring her that I will always be there for her. I felt her quake as orgasm after orgasm rippled through her body from that animalistic nigger fucking. Those beasts came so hard their semen even splattered me and I knew she was going to get pregnant, but I didn't care. I would raise that child like my own and always be there for them. Kato Marika then spat a mixture of hot nigger cum and her spit all over my pathetic Mexican dick and I thanked her for the privilege. Then I woke up with an erection harder than my faggot dog's when they sre peanut butter on balls, but cried for half a hour straight after realizing it was all a dream.
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>>135735214
>when you try to sell shit to clear space and you can't because your fucking inventory is full.
they need to fix this asap
everytime i afk fish i need to throw 1 away
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>>135735323
Stunt Flore? As in, banned from EVE for being a pleb Stunt Flores?
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A nice ""$20"" set for my horse for only $7, thanks bikini panda :^)
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>>135735639

Enjoy the stolen CC.
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>>135735639
I still don't trust this shit
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>>135735639

I'm scared to buy from there and I'm somewhat convinced you're a Bikinipanda shill
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>>135735710
Hi mom.
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>>135733417
Yeah I'm gonna need that file
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>>135735639
you might aswell start spamming like you do ingame faggot
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>>135735639
Thanks for your credit card, идиoт
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Thighs?
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So, I'm about level 26, and sometimes it seems even though I'm spamming some of my skills, the damage from them isn't going through. Like, it'll say that I'm hitting, but the bar will just stay the same. Is that a problem on my end? Or what's the deal?
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>>135735925
Stay cucked :^)
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>>135735639
How exactly do they get items to you anyway?
I don't have a clue how it works.
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>>135736259
You can only see HP of mobs once you get knowledge of them

Although it was laggy as fuck for me today and I was missing skills.
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>>135736416
You can gift cash shop items.
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>>135735241
ok ill aim for +10 on everything on my valk and see what i can do
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>>135736259
It's possible that you're lacking accuracy and your hits simply miss. Shouldn't happen too often if you're fighting mobs appropriate to your level.
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>>135736156
Is that a zip on her underwear?
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>>135736304
>cucked
I'm sorry anon but I can actually afford the game instead of using shady sites
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>>135736304
>>135735639

Can you use paypal to checkout?
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>>135736304
Thanks for reminding me how much I dislike the horse costumes in BDO
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>>135736482
>find out what accounts are gifting a large amount of items
>ban them and everyone they traded with
gg ez

Either that or just limit the number of items you can gift.
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>>135736527
They're names are purple, and I have no acc gear. I assume that's what's happening then. I'll grab some next time I stop in a town.
>>135736439
I can see the health go down at times, so I know I have the knowledge. I guess I'm just missing.
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>>135736568
Yes, so she doesn't have to take her combat armor off when she goes to the bathroom.
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>>135736768
"goes to the bathroom"
sure.
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>>135736768
I can't wait till that piercing gets caught on something and ripped out while she's trying to fight.
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>>135733417
File here:

https://mega.nz/#!gdQHVKjJ!z6hXAs4h6_I0AozaSKEqRGy3ik_s7IjvzY4tM3aJbrM
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>>135736679
The costume is wasted on that ugly mug.

>>135736691
They only accept paypal.
>>
>>135736768
>>135736931
Why does it look like a bluetooth headset?
>>
>>135737096
>lostboys.exe
no thanks lmao
>>
>>135736717
They'll ban them when the stolen cards purchase history leads back to them. At that point, whether they'll remove the goods or ban accounts that bought them is the real question.
>>
Wait are there multiple Shrines? Which one drops weekly scrolls on RNG?
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>>135736843
Well there's other things as well but you know...

>>135736931
I...
You're awful anon.

>>135737165
How else will I talk to my guild mates while adventuring?
>>
Does anyone know the base % chance armor has to succeed when upgrading to 6?
>>
I'm not feeling sorc. What should I roll instead?
>>
>>135715218
added fishing hotspots to the guides list.
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>>135737412

Wizard

:^)
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Time to do some cooking
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>>135737513
dude....
>>
How much of a Tamer presence is there at 50+?

Currently lvl 42 and already rarely see any Tamers.
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>>135737413
>fishing hotspots
its just maomaos guide which only has like 3 spots.
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>>135737513
Do it you double nigger
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>>135737513
Good night, sweet fossil
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>>135737513
"Seems like this combination isn't working"
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>>135737836
I might dislike you
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>>135737314
Do I know..? Elaborate for me, maybe?
>>
Reminder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgG3_h2wrts
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Remember to report eppu posters
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>>135738093
Easy access.
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>>135737513
>>135737836
Did you just waste a 125k fish?
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>>135738514
Better than Early Access by a mile.
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>he's not in <Lewd>

How do you feel about an open ERP guild in this game?
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>>135738704
c'est la vie
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>>135738990
ERP guilds that advertise themselves as such usually contain less than ideal ERP partners, not something you should bother with unless you're okay with *ERP like this.* Lenght of that emote is probably comparable to the lenght of a reply.
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>>135738990
i was thinking about joining, but it felt weird how they only wanted female members.
>>
Where does Heve drop?
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>>135739313
Hexe Sanctuary.
>>
I can't connect to server fucking shit sucks
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>>135739313
skellingtons
>>
Downloading now, pretty excited. What class?
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What should I awaken as Valkyrie? What should I aim for, too?
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r8 my good goy
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Can someone explain Judgement of Light to me?
Says it uses up 100% of Black Spirit's rage, but for some reason it doesn't and I can keep using it on cooldown.
What am I missing?
Pic related, my Spirit thingy isn't full nor did it go empty on skill use.
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>>135740013
Cute. But tabby cat > others.
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>>135739970
Shield Throw, Celestial Spear, and I think your down + right click
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The black spirit guy isn't giving me any more quests, what do I have to do to continue? I have some knowledge and contribution ones but I'm not sure if I have to achieve those to proceed.

Last thing I did was kill Giants, a huge rock crab and hooded owls.

Currently level 46.
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>>135740362
It only uses 100% when it actually hits 100%. It won't consume any rage before that point
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>>135740887
Forgot an image for some reference.

I think I gotta figure out what happened at the quarry?
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Wheres the closest big pot vendor to Serendia Shrine? Please tell me that it isnt fucking Heidel.
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When do you get to Keplan, Trent and the whale city in the story? I'm currently babysitting Orwen the supreme autist in Floring while some troll shit goes on and I'm too weak to do those quests.
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>>135735071
>62 AP at level 37
Am I doing it right?
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So if I delete my knowledge of something at the Calpheon library and then relearn that knowledge, do I get energy xp for that?
For example if I have discovered everything in my knowledge tree and want to get more energy, I just delete shit and rediscover it again?
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>>135741507
Man I'm 64/64 at 46.

Currently trying to figure out how to get more stones and money so I can play with fail stacks.
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So this is the power of Black Desert Online...
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>>135741729
LOOKS LIKE RUNESCAPE
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>>135741729
>black people in black desert online

Accurate
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>>135741702
I'm at the point where it's a waste to get anymore I've maxed out all the easy upgrades so I'm just selling black stones. Gotta save for that liverto staff

Bares earrings and belt helps a lot, the accuracy set bonus and amulet help a fuck load for damaging higher level mobs as well, people seem to think pure AP is good enough which is stupid
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>>135741376
like 40-45+
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>>135742095
Somehow I got my Yuria amulet at +9 without any failures so far with only +2 or +3 stacks. I'm hesitant to move forward but want to get my weapons and armor to +10 where I'll sit happily.
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>>135742539
Hats probably ahead of most people mate, a LOT of level 50 shitters are sitting on less AP and DP that mine
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>>135741729
Yes. Once you played a few hours you really see how bad the game looks.
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So are you bored yet /bdog/? I am.

Was worth the $100 I think, I got a lot of hours out of it.

But I think I'm done until they add in a patch or something.
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I need so much silver- what's the best monster to grind at 50? Ranger so if Ogre's dropped any regular good equips I would just do them but...

>>135739940
Wizard if you wanna get your first character leveled quicky. Ranger if you want to DPS like no tomorrow but quaff mana potions like there's no tomorrow. Zerker if you want a class that doesn't work.
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Tunnel visions, I get ahead, stayed solid I never fled
My haters feel like I'm better dead but I'm quite alive getting bread instead
With a better girl, with a better face, I'm in a better place gettin' better head
"I just wanna stay broke forever," yeah that's that shit no one ever said
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Fastest place to level at 52?
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>>135739940
Wizard is the funniest class to play right now because the crazy AoE but I don't know how they will be in pvp
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>>135743270
cute
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>"Sandbox"in Eve:
>Players control nearly everything, create massive alliances, wage insane large battles, do whatever they please be it trader, broker, pirate, scammer, politician or smuggler or anything in between
>"Sandbox" in BDO:
>Devs forgot to put in meaningful things to do and now all you do is grind boring mobs for gear or chop wood/fish

wewewewewew lad
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>>135743640
>EVE
you forgot the part where you have to wait 6-12 months before you can actually play any of those things.
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>>135743640
one is boring the other isn't
devs should find a balance
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>>135743640
>Comparing an MMO that has been out for 13 years to one that has just launched here

Man, that's a fair comparison alright!

That aside, I've been playing on Orwen. Seems I fucked up. I'm lonely ;_;
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I'm getting really bored. Once I finally buckled down and got to max level I see how little content there actually is in this game.

I regret spending $100 on the Conq pack now. Glad I never bought any Daum cash.

Disgusted at this cash grab.
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>>135743791
t. never played the game

rifter 30 minutes after creating a character and you can shred niggas
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>>135743893
I hear there are plenty of people on Orwen, just look out for them
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>>135743791
nice bullshit again
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>>135743936
>shred niggas after 30 minutes
No, no you can't. You couldn't even shred npcs after 30 minutes.
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>>135743915
back to /r/worldofwarcraft
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>>135743893
BDO is out for some time already, or do you think if the guys from EvE released EvE in china they would go and cut out the space because it "just released"?
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>>135743893
Its ok I'm on Croxus
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>>135744121
Damn son, I wonder what a Chinese EVE server would be like.
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>>135744059
>>135743791
laughing right now
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http://www.blackdeserttome.com/wiki/Karma

why would you ever PK?
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>>135744121
>>135744298
There is an EVE server in China called Serenity...
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>>135744330
>laughing
>thinks anyone who has less then T2 equipment, a T2 frigate and a base of at least 4 in all the skill associated will do anything in PvP
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>>135742846
Maybe but I'm still having a difficult time with Saunil lizard gooks. I mean I can massacre them but often they do some serious damage to me still.
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>tfw I got two fully geared 50+ characters.
>ftw I just want to play a female ninja.
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So as a somewhat low level Valk, what kind of armor/weapon should I be going for? All I have for armor right now is Basteer gear/weapon and a Vangertz shield. Some random jewelry as well. But it just feels like I should have far better gear by now.
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>>135743893
There's a guild on Orwen, anon, you might find us on Calpheon 02.
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>>135744121
>if the guys from EvE released EvE in china
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>>135743915
>never tried KR
goodbye
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>>135744121
EVE is already pay to win, so what does it matter.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization

>Post-purchase rationalization, also known as Buyer's Stockholm Syndrome, is a cognitive bias whereby someone who has purchased an expensive product or service overlooks any faults or defects in order to justify their purchase. It is a special case of choice-supportive bias.
>For example, a consumer cannot decide between two popular video game consoles, but in the end decides to purchase the one that many of their peers also own. After purchasing it, they may find few games for their console worth purchasing, and more for the console they did not purchase. However, they do not wish to feel they made the wrong decision, and so will attempt to convince themselves, and their peers, that their original choice was the correct one, and the consumer's opinion is better than everyone's opinion, i.e. using sour grapes arguments.[1]

This thread right now

>People pay money for an MMO in 2016
>Feel they have to play it now because they spend money on it
>Any argument about its flaws is shitposted to the ground, "lel go back to w-w-wow!!"
>slowly, people get to maxlevel and realize there is nothing to do
>those just abandon without a word despite having phonebanked the game before
>everyone else left is a die hard fanboy that spend 300+ dollars for costumes and is in terminal denial
>Same happens in every MMO where an incredibly tiny but unbelievable loud minority shills their trashgame until the servers shut down
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>>135744452
Is this how it works for us? I've seen a lot of people bitch about stuff like trolls flagging, attacking a little bit then unflagging and so on.
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>>135744629
>>tfw I got two fully geared 50+ characters.
All +15 armor and weapons, all with blue rarity, and the best accessories? Pics?
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>>135744803
You spent more time greentexting that than the average person will spend reading it.
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>>135744803
of course it has flaws, but is there anything better?
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>>135744803
>posting about flaws
>in a thread dedicated to the games fun
I believe you want the forums.
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>>135743640
The difference between EVE and every other game is that EVE does not have interactive combat.

There will never be a "sandbox game" like EVE with good interactive traditional MMO combat because that would be impossible to balance and would only benefit griefers
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>>135744298
I played there for a while with a bunch of NA-EU vets. Absolutely demolished them in PvP because they have no advanced metas that compared to our strats.
Gameplay was the same. Missing some ships, some regions, but it didn't matter much.
It was pretty extraordinary to see how the Chinese played. Megablocks across space with literally zero tiny alliances (this was back in 2010 or something when Goons didn't dominate Eve), lack of PvP without war declarations/invasions. Communist policies of turning in all your loot to the alliance.
it was dank
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>>135743270
More Naaki please
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>>135744984
>muh combat must be shit for it to be sandbox
You're still a fucking retard for thinking this.
Why do you think this?
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>>135744884
They both share the same armors so it's not that hard.
And I got my witch earings, mark of shadows and a 8+ ap neck.

Of course I could min max it with enchanted accessories and such, but I*m not that autistic.
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>>135745174
Different anon, but there has never been a true "sandbox" mmo with good combat.
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>>135744936
WoW
FFXIV
GW2
ToS
Tera
BnS
Bless Online
DDO
PSO2
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>>135745196
Pic of all +15 armor and weapon with blue rarity and accessories.
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>>135744936
wow private servers as example
GW2 is also better, altho the PvE is garbage

the PvE in BDO doesnt even exist outside killing mobs all day without any challenge or fun
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>>135744884
surely you mean yellow rarity
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>>135744803
+.50 shekels in evecucks bankaccount
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>>135745296
Darkfall Online
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>>135745357
upgrading to yellow rarity isn't out for our version yet
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Is it safe to just spec into one element as a Wizard? I want to just be a Pyromancer for a while.
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>>135745301
>WoW
>GW2
>Tera
>BnS
>bless online
I took the bait here is a (you)
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>>135745467
>Darkfall Online
>Good Combat.
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>>135744121
But if they waited to translate everything that was out in BDO first, by the time they reached where it is now, more would be out to translate.

That's the issue with porting over another region's MMO. You always have to start from scratch and "catch up" to them, always being a few steps behind regardless.

>>135744658
Fr-friends...?
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>>135745301
>themepark mmos where you're shoehorned into doing content that the devs specifically designed to keep you hooked
Wow who would have thought
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>>135745467
https://youtu.be/cBEp-WO3Kqo?t=35s

>good
Well it is an improvement over EVE.
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>>135744803
>Buy game with NEET bux
>Immune to buyers remorse
>Think game is good continue to enjoy it
>Tell others how much I enjoy the game
>Will probably buy some pears later today
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>>135745512
would you know the purpose of the grade 2 armor/weapon reforge stones?
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>>135745748
grade 2 upgrades to blue and yellow rarity but the yellow rarity function doesn't come in until mediah
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>>135745296
UH HELLO
black desert online
jokes aside, it still doesn't make sense
add sandbox mechanics to this and it doesn't change combat in any way
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>tfw you land a spear on a ranger
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>>135745708
Good to see you are eating a healthy diet of fruits.
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Why are these so many wizards and rangers?
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>>135745573
>Fr-friends...?
Sure, you just have to find us.
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>>135745851
So I guess it does both? Grade 1 upgraded mine to blue.
On Japan yellow rarity was out long before Media [fyi].
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>>135745893
>doesn't change
>people just sit on areas that provide good items
>people blockade towns preventing trade
>people sit on boss monster
All to just pvp and grieve other players.

Yes, adding full sandbox to games ruins them.
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Where can I pick up the items I got for buying the game?

I already did the stuff like selecting my server on the website and telling them where I want the items.
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>>135745534
That's my plan.
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>>135746107
press B ingame
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>>135746065
this
everyone just sits at one sot waiting for spawns
literally retail wow right now, sitting in garrison waiting for queue pop

and you drones defend this
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>>135745996
is this bait
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>>135746050
Grade 1 does upgrade to blue also but it has a chance to fail the upgrade. Grade 2 has no chance of failing and can also do yellow. Yellow rarity upgrades will come out for us in mediah.
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>Trade Managers
What is the reset timer for them to get new products? Is it when another player brings items in, or is it on a rotating clock in game?

Shit confuses me because there are times I'll deliver something, come back and it will be full, and others I'll have to cycle to another city before it comes back.
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>>135746270
nop
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>>135746159
I pretty much focus on lighting myself. Shits powerful.
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>>135746524
gandalf did have sick lights
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>>135745996
Really? I only see warriors about
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>>135746048
I'm trying to find a guild in Orwen too.
Heidel Inn, right?
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>>135746998
Can join mine, they seem pretty chill, unless you wanna try hard, then they might be too chill
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>>135746675
Dude, those fireworks and that mighty dragon at the end.

Shit would scare anyone out of a contested PvP zone.
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>never been in a party with a sorc
>all the sorcs I've seen have been emo looking outlaws who tries too kill everyone

is there any "nice" sorcs out there or is it just edgy people who plays them?
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>>135747137
mostly edgy yes
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>>135746048
I now have a goal, besides running around doing quests for NPCs.

>>135747137
I have a Sorceress but... after seeing their skills and all, its kind of hard to resist the urge to chuuni them. Even if she'd still be nice...
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>>135747253
It's actually mostly edgy people. Those in my guild that plays sorcs are mostly edgy people that thinks they're better than everyone else because of "highest skillcap class" meme.
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>>135746998
It's a chill guild, mostly just friends that happen to sometimes browse vg, some more others less.
It's not exactly a vg guild, we take in normie friends and we're not autistic about smiley faces.

>>135747291
You won't find me around town right now, I'm adventuring, but later you might!
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>>135747137
Sorcs are retards who flag whenever because NO CLASS can catch them if they run away.
>>
What's a good spot to grind at level 52?
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>>135748064
I'm still slumming it up around Velia anyway. I need to figure out how the Nodes work still and Conversations...

Looking up future classes, I wish Plum was out. I prefer melee combat, but I don't really like sword and board that Valkyrie has.

Not sure how Tamer would be though, but I don't overly like their outfits. Sorceresses have some nice ones, but I'm unsure how good an idea it is to be a melee Sorceress would be.
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>>135747137
Do you think I am edgy, anon-kun?
>>
anyone got the updated list of qt characters?
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>>135748556
yes
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>>135748556
yes
>>
>>135748556
yes
>>
Just a quick question, is there a way to level up my crafting so I can make things out of less raw material?

Like is is possible at some point to make Polished Stone from less than 10 Rough Stone?
>>
Daily reminder that BDO is a garbage asia grinder that has literally no content outside of tablet-game tier shit
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>>135749039
what do you mean?
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>>135744803
That's a pretty large generalisation, anon.

I've not played an actual MMO in a very long time, and getting into this game has felt really nice. It looks good, feels great if you take it at your own pace, and has combat I actually find satisfying.

Also it's not exactly like I need to penny pinch.
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>>135749072
no dungeons/raid only meme content
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>>135749039
thank you for the reminder now go back to your own general
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>>135749039
Thanks for the reminder, I've had a terrible memory lately.
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>>135749039
go back to gw2g cuck
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>>135748556
mildly
I'd never mind her being dom
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Adventure?
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Rate this old man.
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>>135749543
Go far, beyond the hills.
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>>135749593
are 50 year olds "old men"?
>>
>>135749072
>>135749293
>>135749371
>>135749437
So you guys admit the game is no content and yet still play it?
Why?
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>>135749730
what do you mean?
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>>135749730
Why are you not playing a superior game right now instead of concerning yourself with us?
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>>135749661
He's very loosely based on Stardust Crusaders era Joseph, so maybe.
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>>135749593
Premature greying/10

Coulda been like Anderson Coop back in 2001
>>135749730
Content is a bit subjective to a degree. Some people legit might not care about raids and dungeons, and to them that shit doesn't appeal at all and might as well not be there.

Now yes, dungeons and raids are content, but they don't have to be the only things that an MMO is based on. I can't defend BD really since I'm barely level 14, so I can't speak for how things get later, but if it works out for other people and they enjoy the game, then who am I to tell them they can't play BD just because there's no raids or dungeons?
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please
>>135748401
please please please respond please.
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Anyone know how I can connect my own horse?
It says connected horse list 0/1, so I assume that means I can connect my personal one, and get the extra training
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>>135750136
stables and buttons
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>>135750136
I think you can at a stable. But I thought you needed cart horse? Maybe not.
>>
>>135746998
>>135747291
>>135748440

Well if you guys are looking to join us on Orwen, feel free to respond to this and drop your name.

We'll be doing guild quests tomorrow and trying to rank up so we can at least try for a guild house eventually.

But ya things are calm and fun, no pressure or anything or super autistic crap going on.
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>>135749730
>no content
this meme never ends
have a (you) and go back to gw2g
>>
>>135749893
I made a grey Joseph but his hair got all in the light. Warriors suck anyway.
>>
>>135750203
>>135750249
These are the only options it gives me with my horse, when my wagons out.
Even less options on my wagon, when my horse is out.
Not sure what to do
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>>135750249
cart horse is to create the wagon registration. You can attach your own horse and train it while you trade.

It's what I do with mine, I breed and train my own. my level 17 T1 and level 10 T2 produced a T3 which I have next to my other T2 female. They are now level 10 and 7.

I'll get another T2 and breed that one with my T2 female and have 2 T3s on my wagon.
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>>135750479
pull it into the stables
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>>135743442
What's the best ranged class or funniest class overall? My first char was a valk but it's getting kinda boring.
>>
>>135750479
Look at the bottom of your screen
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>>135750461
Alright lemme here about this content
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>>135750110
Catfish until 53, then just fuck it and hit monastery.
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>>135750479
Botton set of buttons, far left will be "wagon"
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>>135750573
I see now, thank you!
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>>135747137
No bully
>>
So I heard leveling will be much easier when the first update arrives. Is that true? Should I just wait till then to level? I like switching between classes and at my pace it would take me weeks to max level 2+.
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>>135751205
easier to level 50-55 maybe
>>
>>135751205
any info on when the next update will be
>>
So what happens if you discover an area before finding the exploration quest for it?

I'm pretty ocd and want to complete 100% of the exploration missions.
>>
>>135751205
>first update
>he doesnt know

see you 2018 :^)
>>
They already made it easy as shit to hit 55, if it was like KR launch all the "hardcore" players would have quit at 52, with everyone else sitting at 50. So maybe a bit 50-55, but not by much
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>>135750976
Who is this qt?
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http://strawpoll.me/7127261

BE TRUTHFUL, PLEASE. THIS IS AN ANONYMOUS POLL. NO ONE WILL KNOW WHAT YOU VOTED.

Let's get a real idea of what people think about BDO so far.
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These rocket barrages are cool as shit
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>>135750976
>that jew necklace
Gas the jews
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Holy Armok this game is pretty.
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>>135751548
I still play it a lot. I need to level my alt more, though. She's still 18 and still feels really clunky.
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>>135752020
its really not that pretty
also disable the fucking vignete
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>>135751864
cmon
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>>135752159
It's pretty fucking pretty mate
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>>135752159
>disable the fucking vignette
you can do that? how?
can't find any option for it under graphics
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Need bitchin name for old man elf wizard
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>>135750615
>>135750461
>no response
yeah what i thought
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>>135752159
That is with vignette disabled. It does that a bit when looking at a lot of sky space like that for some reason.

Vignette makes the corners much, much darker. I made sure I took off all the filters and bullshit like that before I started taking screens.
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I didn't mean to murder that Goblin. His blood will make the planks more valuable, r-right?
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>>135752532
Gándalfx
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>>135752532
MrMagic
Spellsnschmit
Hans Wunderbarr
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Made a lot of progress today, off to bed. night /bdog/
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>>135752809
L-Lelei?
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Who comfy trader here?
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>>135753029
Those wagons don't seem very comfy. You should invest in a Farm Wagon until you can craft a Trade one, or buy a Trade Wagon off the market
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>>135752629
>more valuable
>goblin blood
This game has you murdering goblins by the thousands, what do you think?
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>>135753445
Some of them are really hostile
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>>135753029
You know it!
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>>135752629
This game makes me want to murder goblins because of that shitty trader in cephalon
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>>135753029
Who comfy sitting on a fence and looking at people passing by here?
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>IF I KEEP UP THE HARD WORK I'LL BE ACCEPTED INTO THE XIAN MERCHANTS GUILD HU HU HU
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that moment when you have T4 male and Female horses
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>>135753706
>>135753029
might aswell play WoW and sit in garrison all day waiting on work orders
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>>135753029
Super comfy trader >>135752809
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>>135753893
Or they could play BDO???
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>>135750463
>Warriors suck anyway.
I don't disagree. He's honestly just an excuse to have Bern Armor. My main is Valk and I'm leveling a Ranger alt for PVP.
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>>135753893
Ah yes, completely missing the point, but you do what you find more enjoyable.
Don't forget to stand in front of the raid instance 15min before raid time, don't want to get the raid leader mad.
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>>135753706
Fences aren't as comfy as walls.
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>>135753291
Gotta work my way up from something, but thanks for the advice
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where can you earn costume items without having to pay thirty bucks? are there rewards or some shit?
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>>135754196
better that and having a nice evening with rewards instead of sitting on a fucking card ride and doing nothing because the games dev dont give a shit about western audience and players are leaving in droves

Did you check the latest google analytics on search terms for BDO? You should try it some time.
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>>135754416
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>>135754547
>Did you check the latest google analytics on search terms for BDO?
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>>135752592
lol way to go bro. you showed him
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>>135754416
Pffft. Youre in Asia now, motherfucker.
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>>135754547
Why would I? I'm enjoying the game for what it is. Do you always ask others if you should enjoy something?
Do you only do something if you get rewarded for it? Rewards aren't only in the form of purple outlined gear icons, different people find different things rewarding.
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how long does 1-50 take and how long does 50-55 take
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>>135751429
Anyone?
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>>135755232
I have been able to just turn it right in if I have already discovered the area
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>>135755232
Exploration missions are procedurally generated, and don't count towards any total or anything.
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Can anyone explain this? This doesn't seem like it's 100% player influenced? At what point does it start to recharge and how long does it take to get back to 130%?
I just can't believe the other crates are selling as much as Sunflowers, and they all follow the same path.
So it seems like they're all just divided by certain times of day.
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>>135753445
Good point. Well. It'll add some unique coloration to the planks at least.

>>135753687
I feel kinda bad for the Goblins in Velia. Everyone treats them so poorly...
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>>135755146
1-50 can be done in 8-20 hours depending on you knowledge of the game
50-55 could take anywhere from 40-100 hours
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>>135752592
busy playing
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what do i do with this
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>>135753706
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>>135755721
>8-20
how
Using guides or shit like that? Also solo?
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>>135755331
>>135755407
Thank you guys, means a lot.
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Probably me being a retard but how do you cast Scars of Dusk? I've read the tooltip and I still can't seem to do the combo.
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>>135755838
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>>135755591
>he fell for the player controlled meme
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How do I discover the Northern Plains of Serendia? I need to connect Calpheon to Heidel
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>>135755591
>player controlled
>muh sandbox
just how retarded do you have to be to believe this
game doesnt even have enough players to sustain a 100% player controlled economy
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>>135754416
I am not paying thirty full fucking dollars for a costume, but I dont exactly love the fact I have the same shit on that I had on day one.
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>>135756049
>>135756204
What? The percentage literally goes down whenever someone sells to the vendor.
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Do all treants have a chance to drop the belt?
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>>135756204
>game is ded meme
disregarded
>>
>no items on the market
>people still choose to register their item as low as possible
Do these people hate money or are they just retarded?
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>tfw artisan
feels good men
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>>135756452
only twin headed, old and mutant iirc
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>>135756596
People don't know how it works and it usually defaults to the minimum price when you click register.
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This game is comfy af
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>>135756536
>this much denial
yes we know you payed money for the game, its alright senpai
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>>135756627
shame that his skills are so shit
can't have everything i guess
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>>135756850
LITERALLY THE DANKEST SKILL IN THE GAME MAN
it is a shame you can't reroll select ones for some fee or some shit
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>>135755896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V53QO_-OKUo

This is the guide I'm gonna be using to level, seems pretty decent.

Only an hour left and then I can finally start my adventure to becoming an Explosion witch.
>>
boopers
>>
/bdog/ what's the absolute "real nigga" class available right now?
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>>135756830

Fuck yer
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For fuck sake game. Stop dumping green dyes and fireworks in my inventory
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>>135757037
witch
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>>135757052
Yiss
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>>135757159
is that interchangable with wizard? i only want one waifu if i can manage it
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>>135757001
did you mean "only one hour until i can continue what i have been doing for the past 14 hours: grind mobs all day long!!"
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>>135756830
It's almost criminal
>>
>Finally fight to 100 AP as a Warrior
>Still come up against overgeared autists who only take like 10% from a full grab/spinning slash cancel combo
No matter how hard I try, there's always someone with less of a life than me.
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Guys should I get the blue witch outfit or the tree suit?

>>135757327
yes because
>it's fun
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Croikey! Looks loik loads o' Imps 'round 'ere! Gonna get closa' and jam me finger in its buttho'.
>>
I'm bored as fuck to be completely honest. I hit 50 3 days into the headstart and after fishing, farming, cooking, etc are only entertaining for so long.

I'd do quests, but I've done every inventory slot quest from a guide and the story is really shit and all over the place.

I don't know, I expected more considering how hyped up this game was.
>>
what's the point of an Epheria rod?
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>>135757485
Neither because they're both expensive as fuck, and the sooner people like you stop throwing your money at them, the better.
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>>135757569
you can repair it and upgrade it
and it lasts an entire night of afk fishing
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>>135757552
this game wasn't hyped ya fuckin dingus, unless you watched Kungen's stream and if you did you are a little fucking shit
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>>135757594
It must suck to be poor.
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How gay is this guy?
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I ride good.

Waiting for disappointment, breeding 2 T2 at level 11/12, but the female died twice.
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>>135756830
Comfy is the endgame

>>135757495
Why in the world would you do that?
Never mind, you're Australian.
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>>135757785
It must be great living the ignorant life of an absolute moron
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>>135758352
>>
>MUH ADORABLE BABY
>I'LL HOLD YOU IN MUH EMBRACE
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>>135715218
Tamer or Sorceress?
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>>135758463
>THE GIANT IS STRONGER
>SHIAS ARE A JOKE
>>
>muh comfy
is this the last argument in favor of BDO?
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>>135758895
It was the first argument as well
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>>135758337
Croikey that reeeeealeh pisses 'em off!
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>>135758651
Tamer.
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>>135758194
Kek for some reason i bursted out in laughing
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>30 is breath max
Fuck. No.
>>
There a way to turn off the "Navi" lookin' thing I have to have lead me around for the quests? I can find my way around without the thing.
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>>135759863
look in your game settings, retard
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hey guys gw2g here is there any child race in the game yet that i can play as?
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>>135757758
>this game wasn't hyped
Then you live under a fucking rock. It's been shilled to hell and back.
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>>135760035
no unless you consider 13-18 as child
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>>135760035
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Anyone else find that their texture quality resets to medium every now and then?
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After the 2 death horse I got a T3 female and then exchanged the horses for another T3 female. Comfy af.
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>>135758194
Only real faggots don't find adventure romantic.

>>135760035
No, because those races are the literal cancer of every game they occupy because every faggot thinks its funny to go around as a faggot race doing lolsorandum things or being loli sluts.
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>>135760035
yes and you can fuck her too
but only if you are from syria and muslim, because having sex with children is part of your religion then!
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>>135760168
certainly not in /bdog/ or /r/blackdesertonline
and outside it wasn't in anyway comparable to BNS
no shills allowed
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>>135760208
Yes happens here too. The chat font gets weird too when at medium.
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Are there any more areas planned that we know of?
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>>135760554
Aside from Media and Valencia?
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>tfw own a macro capable keyboard
>tfw you record getting a PERFECT catch fishing
>tfw now you can get PERFECT catch by pressing one button

Life is good today
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>>135757552
NO STOP

STOOOOOP

OMG GW2 FANDRONE

ITS SO COMFY

SO MUCH COMFY

OMG YOU JUST WANT RAID GO BACK TO WOW WTF OMG BDO IS SO COMFY

MAN HAVE YOU STOOD AFK AT A TREE ALREADY??? ITS COMFY AS FUCK HOLY SHIT SO MUCH TO DO YOU CAN BE COMFY THEN YOU CAN DO SOME COMFY

TRY LEVLEING YOUR COMFY OMG BET YOUR AREN T+25 IN VERY COMFY SLOT

W

T

F

MODS BAN THIS GW SHILL
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>>135758651
Tamer is shit, so anything but tamer.
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>>135760618
Oh I haven't heard of those.
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>>135760671
This guy.
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>>135760618
Yes.
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>>135760662
What's the macro pls anon?
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>The meme guild on Orwen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFXjP3h56Kg
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>>135760739
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>>135760671
are you having a stroke?
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>tfw fishing and dress up sim 2016
>>
>total noob speaking

how do I refill my energy points ? it says it refills automatically at 1pt/3mn but is there any way to fasten the process ?
>>
>>135760035
no
die
>>
>>135757758
>this game wasn't hyped ya fuckin dingus
Are you serious? It was all over /v/ before release.
>>
someone post that map of the tree-type hotspots, please

>>135760662
what is the timing on that, anyway? it looks like the first "tick" of the bar has the exact same timing every time, which is retarded
>>
What's in Mediah anyway?
It seems pretty huge but there doesn't seem to be much stuff to do?
>>
do boats use durability if you're just standing on them to fish?
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>>135761006
>/v/
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>>135760937
Some quests reward you with Energy.
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>>135760662
>doesn't write cheats for every mmo he plays
be more edgy senpai
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>people don't like BDO
>they come to bdog to complain about it
>mfw
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>>135761065
a castle
some towns
lots of 50-55 mobs
a city
some bosses
enchanting past +15
zinc and cotton nodes
some neat quests
some islands
idk
>>
>>135760797
Sorry anon I can't open the macro details on Jewzer Synapse

>>135761041
For what i could see before I saved it, 0.93 secs was the delay. If you tell me how to access the code of Razer Synapse I'll do it and post
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>>135760937
buy energy potions
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>>135761090
Ive had a boat out since the day I left it in sea

the answer is no, its still at full durability
>>
>>135761090
No
>>
>>135760937
80% of the quests in this game are repeatable
maybe half of those reward you with energy recharge
that and afking in beds
>>
What are node wars going to be like? Guild leaders getting to set taxes on land? Something like in AA?
>>
>>135761306
I was just gonna use a self-compiled ahk macro bound to some random key

trying to decide if it's safe or not before I do so, obviously would be naming the executable something like "firefox" or "chrome" or maybe "steam" to get past the xigncode bullshit
>>
Are you guys enjoying the broker macros to snipe gear?

>people quitting another overhyped Korean grinder with horrible pvp
Your fault for listening to sellouts like kungen and steparu. Always do your research before playing a foreign mmorpg that's been out for years.

>>135757001
In one hour you can start more grinding you said?

>>135761504
See, like this guy he didn't even bother looking for videos about sieges in youtube.
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>>135761683
Yea senpai, I wanted a certain name on my new character so I had to delete an alt.
>>
>>135761683
Are you proud you spent several minutes looking at videos and another to post that? Well, good on you friend.
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>>135761816
and you waited 30 days just for that?
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Can I still charge back my Conq pack?

I finally got to level 45 and PvP in this game is stupid as fuck.
>>
>>135762051
No just 24 hours.
>>
>>135762213
but names stay locked for 30 days anon
>>
If I fish the hotspot with fish from Luivano Island, where should I sell at to make the max profit?

Selling in Velia only scores 80% or some crap
>>
>level 43 and something like 61/61 AP/DP.

I get the basis behind failstacks but is there a general amount I should be going towards before trying to upgrade? I'm a shitter and have a hard time getting money So I'm a about 5 failstacks and don't want to end up succeeding with jewelry just to do it all over
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>>135762437
epheria port
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>>135737836
The recipe they give you is fucked, do 1/2/2 instead of 1/3/2. I kept getting some time mismatch error till I tried that.
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>>135762278
Not if it's a name you came up with.
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>>135762647
Damn I don't think I have enough Contribution Points to make it there
>>
>>135753710
>>
>>135762437
its 80% cause alot of people just sell it to the nearest trader. just go to another connected node with a trader and sell them there. selling far away yields distance bonus, thus more cash.
>>
>get to 50
>dont feel like playing farmville
>sieges arent in
>nothing to do but attack randoms and lose karma like an idiot
>suicide at world bosses until they die for a chance at getting loot while losing exp each time
>>
>>135762718
actually yes
>>
>>135762868
>>nothing to do but attack randoms and lose karma like an idiot

What do you need karma for? Outlaw life made the game much more fun
>>
>>135762868
I was looking at it kind of like a peace treaty period. Just focus on getting geared up and the such for when it does come out.
>>
>>135762868
>I find every element of a sandbox boring but I decide to play it anyway expecting it to be another WoW
>>
>>135762821
well damn nigga then go get yourself some of them contribution points what are you doing??
>>
>>135762856
Gotcha

Thanks!
>>
>>135763000
>he replies to obvious b8
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Can you slap me with a guild invite please, I love big logs on my ass.
>>135715218
>>
>>135763051
Haha I am. I'm still a bit confused how I get them. Just doing quests right? I haven't really done much besides fish and building up my workers and stuff.
>>
>>135763050
>afking professions and sending your grunts on a mission is sandbox

yeh man, i love my garrison, what a great sandbox
>>
>>135763271
yeah quests, dailies in calpheon, turning in random crafting junk
>>
If I wanted to change standby expression would it cost me? I have a 30 day coupon running at the moment so I can't test it.
>>
>>135762278
For other people, you can reuse it as soon as that character is deleted.
>>
>>135763303
You're just confirming what I said, just stop playing and go do something else, what's wrong with you?
>>
>>135763303
why are you here ? do you have nothing else to but complain?
>>
>>135763050
you are hands down the biggest retard in this thread
literally how is it even possible that people actually defend content being hold back and even try to deny facts, its absolutely beyond me
are you kungen?
>>
>>135763467
bdo isnt a sandbox friend
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>>135763426
I'll work on that. Is there a max you can get or does it just keep going up? I feel like you need a LOT to start branching out to other cities
>>
>>135762868
Then quit. Its really easy to do, unless you're stupid enough to keep playing something you don't like.
>>
>>135763190
wich guild ?
>>
>>135763178
Hows that obvious b8 unless you're autistic waifunerd?
>>
>>135763657
I did, literally uninstalling right now

I was already +15 weapon/14 armor on my 3rd day headstart

game lacks anything substanstial, every mmo has more to do currently
>>
I'll never understand why people who hate this game post in its general.

Oh, wait... autism
>>
>>135763897
Nice thanks for telling us.

Do you have a Twitch account, blog or something similar I can follow you on so I can know more about your awesome gaming insights?
>>
>>135763913
most of them don't even play the game it seems like
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>>135763913
>DONT YOU DARE INTERRUPTING MY HUGBOX!
i think you are using the wrong website my friend
>>
>>135763913
before you go can you answer this
>>135762594
thanks :^)
>>
>>135763596
Yes I'm kungen, please watch my stream bro.
>they hold back content
They're holding it back to give the game a sense of natural progression, like it progressed in Korea and other regions, is this your first korean MMO? Why waste content by throwing out the last patch instead of allowing players to experience every patch individualy?
Why am I even responding to this.
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>>135763913
This isn't reddit you slug.
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>>135764475
>Yes I'm kungen,
Literally who?
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>>135763913
>>135764471
Meant for
>>135763897

I cant fuck this up any harder if I tried
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>>135764646
This guy
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>>135758441
ARE
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KIDDING ME?
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Anyone know how much weight the different wagons can carry?
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>>135753710
>>135762852
Btw when do we get to go home and make erb cookies?
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So which server should i pick?
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>>135763913
They're Archeage/ESO shills
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>>135765601
Edan if you wanna play with e p i c memesters
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>No free trade
>Restricted auction house prices
>cookie-cutter gender-locked class system
>It's a sandbox MMORPG

Man I sure love sandboxes that don't let me make any interesting decisions.
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>>135765813
the old OPs never referred to BDO as a full on sandbox
rip
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im at 39 fail stacks just trying to upgrade from +12 to +13

fucking kill me, i should have just used 19 to force upgrade
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>>135758441
>>135765006
>>135765298
what is this hot new meem
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>>135765813
The trade is the only thing that bothers me and I don't mind the gender locked system I do however mind the character bound outfits that shit is stupid
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>>135766246
YOU'RE A WHITE FUCKING MALE!
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ITT: I can't let other people have fun, please stop playing this game and come back to my MMO of choice, thanks.
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>>135766434
It's funny because I've seen people in channel chat say they came from Archeage or ESO
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>>135765813
>>135766065
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/106901968/#106901968
hey it's true!
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>>135766419
Alright I've seen this video, but what's the other shit.
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>>135766643
>7 billion
kej
look forward to seeing channel reactions for when someone enchants that high
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I have a T1 mare and a T2 stallion. what level do they need to get a T3 foal?
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>>135766754
ARE KIDDING ME?
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I'm a little confused. Everyone I know who plays this is staying below level 45 and simply crafts and shit. They're telling me not to rush stuff.

I'm level 10 following these quests. Do I have to be a certain level to get into crafting and all the other goofy shit? Should I keep following these quests and leveling up?
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>>135766609
sperglords here are the problem, they're the only ones that can't keep their shit to themselves and scream hugbox when they get called out on it. I keep seeing shit from chat in-game get linked here but really it's less cancerous than these fucking threads have been recently between the eppu posting and the ded game and sandbox memes

post some fucking waifus or something
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>>135766898
try 20s on both, or atleast get both to tier 2 then level to 10 on both

its not like some crazy equation that goes YUP hes got this and this instant T3, its all chance
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>>135766898
It's heavily RNG, the higher the level the better chance. No one answer
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Decided to dye the upper plate. What's your opinion /bdog/?
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>>135767418
I'm sorry that female wizards can't wear pants.
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>>135767010
No, you can do whatever you want whenever except horses. There are a fuckload of production tutorial quests and you should always do quests for cp. You should however go for 20 to be able to tame horses and get your first cart.
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>>135767418
If you like the armor go for it. I'm not that fond of it so I'm saving my dyes for my meido outfit.
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new bread

>>135767507
>>135767507
>>135767507
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>>135767047
Which one should I go with bdog? I want to be an explosion witch ala Megumin
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>mfw there are people who are in 100 millions of silver
Fucking how, do these people pour 4 leaf clover extract down their urethras and get good drops all the time or what.
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>>135767701
wait for better costumes
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>>135767718
get 50 on first day
get +15 weapons within first week
grind more
grind more
grind more
grind more
rich as fuck
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>>135767718
They've either hotspot fished since release, spammed a combination of crafts at opportune times, or got lucky with anywhere from 1 to several end game drops.
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>>135767701
you should buy an appearance change ticket and fix that face instead
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>>135767718
The legend says some people have no life
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>>135767701
if you have money to burn on dyes, middle
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>>135767418
I want to fuck you.
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>mfw you can go prone
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>get to level 45
>refuse to buy the ghille suit on principle of the outrageous price and p2w aspect
>can't level anymore because gankers who don't care about their karma constantly killing me
Was a great game pre-level 45.

Now it's just plain not fun.
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>>135769746
Join a guild and grind in a group.
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>>135769746
not even defending the ghillie but I've never used one and only been in fights because we were at war with Baka and IC and Gatekeeper at one point pre 50s. A ghillie wouldn't help you at that point because they glow red
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>>135771471
Also you can switch channels as well as what >>135771410 said. If you join a reputable guild people won't try to pk you if they know they're going to get killed back
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