/dsg/ - Soulsborne General

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>Ciaran

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Has there been any mention of DaS3 having the Dragon Tooth? I'd love to see if one of my favorite weapons in DaS2 was buffed even more.

Hell, have any greathammers been shown off yet?

>>135692228
>>135692228
yeah but when you kill the caster the other ones get more powerful and do that long range snake attack which is a bitch to dodge

>>135692271
There's footage of an NPC performing a single 1HR1 with a great hammer that requires 50 strength and 30 faith. It's a perfect, 1:1 carbon copy of the DaS1 greathammer moveset and is every bit as slow and awful.

Strength is fucked.

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>>135692271
just this one.

the second part of the gif is the player trying to do the AOE, but it doesn't work because he can't wield it.

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RING RING

>>135692271
Vaati killed the gargyole-esque helmet/greathammer dude but never showed the moveset other than a "hit the ground and do a big aoe", he drops a giant ass shield as well. No proper video of it though. Still mad that no one bought the Vordts hammer using his soul ...

Expect a ton of showcase videos when the nip version drops.

>>135692265
That's why she wears the mask.

>>135692271
all greathammers will have the ds1 moveset and not ds2's dragontooth moveset

i personally called myazaki and requested this

>>135692464

If she takes it off, will she die?

>>135692561

Only in your heart.

>>135692441
the webm>>135692407 shows the 2hand r1
which is fucking slow as shit

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GNIR GNIR

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>>135692441

So he didn't drop his armour or ring?

So presumably he gets a questline which drops it maybe?

>>135692318
The only one that is really annoying during the extendo reach part is the melee only guy. Take out the caster because he hits hard, then take out the melee, then take out the candle faggot as quickly as possible so he doesn't keep spamming snake storm.

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So... is the new Fire Keeper supposed to be Anastacia?

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>>135692779

>>135692150
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5rljUBxfIE [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
How deep will this go before an OP actually notices?

Why are there so many bosses in dark souls 2 and why are they all disappointing?

Most of them are piss easy at best and cheap at worst, not taking in account the fact that most of them don't even have a reason to be there in the first place or are a poor thematic choice.

Why are the Skeleton Lords on the Huntsman's Copse? There are only two necromancers in a very minor part of the whole area, they could've done something along the lines of "Mad King of Rogues" to take in account for the gazillion poison rogues in the area. Hell, they didn't even need another boss since they could've just moved things around and set the Chariot as a boss (it's still a piss-easy boss, but it's more exciting and thematically interesting than literally skellingtons that spawn more skellingtons).

Skeletons, Covetous Demon, Old Dragonslayer, Royal Rat Vanguard, RR Authority, Dragonrider and Dragonrider x2 have literally no reason to exist other than to be roadblocks.

Hell, one of the most exciting bosses are the belfry gargoyles and they're hidden and optional.

Regardless of their reason to be there, if they're not piss easy they're one of the following:
-Several
-Surrounded by lesser units
-Encountered in an arena that purposefully gimps you
-Piss easy still, but have a shitton of HP and damage

I can't quite put my finger on it, but it's like they slapped the worst tropes of 90s JRPGs on generic designs and they just put them in the game.

>>135692880
The firekeeper in the shrine is an imposter, the real one is kept in a cell guarded by a bad guy.

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>>135692907

>>135692917
I've seen OP's go so deep that it encompasses pretty much the entire post.

>>135692917
Deeper than inception

>>135692693
>So presumably he gets a questline which drops it maybe?
No. Presumably you buy it from an npc, I'm not sure if Vaati showed whether he dropped his ashes or not but I guarantee that you'll have to buy his armor.

>>135692779

I know I shouldn't but I get buttmad when I see people who obviously would have trashed Demon's Souls or even Dark Souls at launch for bad controls/masochistic artificial difficulty/whatever excuse getting all hype and leeching onto Dark Souls 3 launch for attention.

Am I the only one disappointed in the difficulty level of NPCs in Dark Souls?
Regular NPCs and especially their black phantom forms in Demon's Souls were some of the most brutal enemies in the game. Then in Dark Souls they're just kinda... eh. No real challenge

>>135692930
DS2 was supposed to be a completely different game. They failed to hit the deadline and the game wasn't even finished, so they fired the guy and pieced the "finished" parts together and released it.

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>>135693046

>>135693091
Controls aren't a problem, just get a controller.

>>135693151
[citation needed]

>>135693184
Controllers are about as expensive as a full-priced game.

>>135693136
Umbasa!

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>>135693184

>>135693241
Yeah, but they work for a ton of other games. It's a pretty reasonable investment.

Although I am glad to see that DS3 has acceptable controls.

>>135693184
>Controls aren't a problem, just get a controller.
Replied to wrong post ???

>>135693241
And even those are piss-cheap all things considered.

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>>135693301

>>135693315
Honestly I had no idea what that anon was getting at. I thought he was complaining about people who didn't like des/dks because of controls.

>>135693250
Mothrfukr if I weren't tryna get pure white character tendency n shit I'd ice your healin ass right here n now

how do i download the ign stream?
the way i usually do it won't let me because the filesize is too big

>>135693136

BP Meat Cleaver in 5-2 was a cheating faggot though.

>>135693136
Did you get to play Bloodborne? The bosses and and enemies in the game weren't the hardest part. It was the NPC Hunters. They will fuck you up. So expect that kind of aggressive AI in DaS3.

>>135693498
I use "4K video downloader", lets you download 1080p60fps videos as well.

Do you guys think WE will be able to push Patches down a fucking cliff this time?

>>135693635
We'll get to push SOMEONE down a cliff at least

And then patches comes behind us and pushes us down that same cliff.

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So i got lucky and got all the parts dropped until the Pharros Door, and am now wondering if it's possible to finish the game with this Equipment with this Covenant.
I mean. I died more times in the Forest than i did in a whole game without that covenant.
And that Equipment is pretty shit.
But i'd kind of like to cosplay.

>>135692930
I liked Covetous Demon, there I said it. He actually has a bunch of different moves, he reacts to actions (shoot down the hollows hanging so he'll eat them) and I actually died to him my first time because I gotten eaten and had all my stuff unequipped. He's only bad because he's so slow and easy but if you actually look at his fight you can tell that he had quite a bit of effort put into him.

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>want to try out Miralda's axe
>get PBWT
>easy so far, killing the red niggas
>run inside only to have her ambush me
>kind of like it, should have expected a trap
>start fighting
>a couple hits and she just rolls to her death

God dammit you fucks I wanted to fight her

>>135693635
WUZ

>PC game drops below 60 on a GTX980 and i7 4970

I was fucking right. I said ages ago that steam's recommended requirements would be for PS4's settings, 1080p 30fps.

I have a 4770k and a GTX980, I'll be playing at 1400p locked at 30fps instead. No biggy.

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>>135693518
yeah she was. She isn't as bad as Selen though...

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>>135694139

Conclusion: NPCs should either cheat or have unobtainable stats/damage (aka Crowsteel of Cainhurst).

In das1 almost all the red phantom invaders and NPCs were fairly easy to beat because they all obeyed the same game laws that the player did and exploitable AI.

We need more cheating Maldrons, cheating Selens and Crowsteel.

>>135693896
980 as well, damn
i was hoping for 1440p/ 60fps

>>135694425
We'd probably be able to 4k at 30fps. I would just expect drops whenever heavy particle shit happens.

Or, it could just simply be because there's no proper patches for the gpu's yet, which would obviously make sense.

Still, I wouldn't expect the perf increase to be anything more than 10% at the most with the latest drivers on release day.

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How do you make a good magic build in demons souls? i'v never really made a proper build in the game and i wanted to try pvp

How do you guys go about determining what weapon you use? Is it just trial and error until something sticks? I was considering for my first playthrough of DS3 to be meeting the Str/Dex requirements of pretty much every weapon I come across so I can dabble in a bit of everything, and then deciding what to use in subsequent playthroughs from there.

To give you an idea of how boring I am, I tend to default to the Longsword in every single Souls game. So I'd like to change it up a bit, and possibly use an axe of some sort.

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>>135694548
Step one, get firestorm

Step two, kill everything in one hit

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>Strongly shifts both Character and World Tendency towards White, but only if directly killed by the player. Other damage (poison, falling etc) do not count towards changing Character Tendency. The death of the phantom unavoidably changes World Tendency.
Wow, when you look back at DeS, you can see that whoever made it was a real fucking sadist back then.

>>135694425
>>135693896
>>135694547

How does a 980 run TW3 great but DKS3 fucking bleh? Fromsoft isn't THAT fucking bad, are they?

>>135693896
>>135694425
>>135694547
what about if we're fine with 1080p, I have a gtx 960 and a 2400

>>135694548
>>135694702
Forgot to mention PvP is almost completely dead in DeS

In the last month out of like 20 hours I got invaded 0 times and saw two summon signs

You're pretty much playing for PvE at this point

>>135694710
Tendency as a whole was a complete fucking pain in the ass to deal with.

4 D A Y S
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>>135694968
Until?

>>135695006
Jap release

>>135695058
well fuck, gonna have to go on a blackout ain't I

>>135695006
The entire game is leaked.

>>135694802
I was able to get summoned as Old Monk several times and one time someone got summoned then i tried to beat him.

Why do they even add the chest in these games if all they contain is the useless rubish item? What's the point? Hurr durr here's a chest oh look it contains rubish

>>135694710
It was also implemented in a very retarded way. I'm glad they never brought it back

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SELEN A CUTE!

>>135695192
Stop breaking the chests.

>>135695192
You are supposed to open them and not break them

>>135695192
>he demolishes chests
oh my fucking god
how dense can one be

>>135695192
Please stop bullying the chests

>>135695192
(You)

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>>135695192

>>135694642
I was considering a quality build for my first run, but I think I'll just stick to a side and give myself more reason to replay it on the other side.

Probably go full dex merc, then try cleric out and see if Faith has come back from being utter shit, then try Thief if Luck builds are viable, and probably make Str coop builds to play with friends.

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>>135694712

Because a game like Witcher 3 is more shader and texture heavy than it is geometry heavy.

Bloodborne and by extension Dark Souls 3 however, going by my experience with Bloodborne at least, are very geometry heavy compared but not as good texture and shader wise. Shit that shader cores can't help offset the load of.

Most cards are great and balanced in all areas from shaders to geometry to textures and give great performance under normal game stress with normal games that balance everything.

Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne however, are very bullheaded in approach to detail.

Instead of being more fancy with material blending, parralax and fancy shader effects, they achieve detail just straight up by throwing more geometry at everything. Pic related. Every single shitting stone is geometry. In another game, that'd be a cheap shader effect with minimal hit to the gpu, look roughly as good and be fine.

>>135694642
Moveset is most the most important thing to me. I value how versatile the weapon is, then how much damage and then how vulnerable I am after an attack.

I usually run a quality build first and test out new weapons extensively on enemies in an area I'm comfortable with.

My second playthrough will probably be faith/strength focused unless miracles suck again

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>>135695192

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From yesterday's FC

How much poise do I need for Great Club PvP in DS1 assuming I'm actually going to trade hits and not fish for backstabs?

>>135695579
If that's true, that explains why the souls games are so amazing to downsample.

If that's the case 4k dark souls 3 might not have as big a drop in framerate compared to 1080p as other games. It'll just use more of the gpu that wasn't being used anyway.

>>135694642
I make my builds with a specific weapons in mind. I do str, dex, quality, int, fai, hex builds and use every weapon and magic that is designed for my build and simply cheat titanite if i want to switch weapons.
Why the fuck would you play game more than twice if you gonna use the same shit over and over?

>>135695914
>trade hits
>Implying you aren't going to get fished.

>>135695410
>>135695630
>>135695930

So basically quality to try out the different weapons, and then make a build specifically for your favourite weapon(s). That's kind of what I was going for.

The Longsword has always been my favourite weapon no matter how bland it is, I usually end up with that weapon no matter the build unless I have a specific weapon in mind. Like for example I have a sorcery playthrough at the moment that I started out with the mace, went to greatsword, and am back to longsword. It's kind of frustrating how I almost never experiment with weapons because of how reliable and comfy the longsword is.

I finished watching IGN stream shortly after they got pyromancy, did they show anything new later?

Would it be kosher if I moveswapped the Uchi to have the Majestic Greatsword's powerstance L2? It feels appropriate for a Lady Maria cosplay.

I have to wait to get the PC version, but a part of me just feels like I should watch streams and stuff anyway

I have a feeling all that's gonna happen is people will know where to get good items and shit and just invade me and fuck me over when the game drops because they watched streams.

>>135696285
Nope.

They had gold coins to spar and were farming for souls and not using them. Could've been getting potentially new drops from the fat mozgus lady that we'd not seen before, like THAT FUCKING BOOK GOD DAMMIT.

>>135694802
I got invaded yesterday. It was really exciting to get invaded in des again, but i never got to fight the invader because he rolled off a cliff.

>>135692265
Not her actual face
Doesn't have any face data, loads a default female face / the last one loaded

who is the little midget lord on the one throne

why has he not fled like the rest of them?

Hot damn I hope they drop a lot of titanite this time around and/or sell higher quality titanite variations like in DaS2. There's so many weapons I want to test out.

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>>135696527

He's a big guy.

Bleed build viable?

>>135696531
The fat guys that drop the great machete also drop titanite. Pretty gud.

>>135696860
Maybe on a high luck build

>>135696929
read name

>>135696860
Yep. I beat the entire game with a bleed infused bandits knife.

I also reached rank 3 in both covenants with a bleed build. Twice.

>>135696940
I'm fucking retarded

>>135696860
Well, everything is viable in DaS2. But not everything is good. You can buff ricard's with bleeding serum and on r2 r2 it would always bleed people and mobs and bosses. You can try bound axe or bandit knife with bleeding serum buff or infusions. You can try chariot lance.

>>135696963
Nice, mind sharing a build?
I was thinking about dual falchions but bandit knife or claws moveset would probably work more to my advantage.

>>135697147
I still love you

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LITERALLY WORSE THAN DS2

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post embarrassing souls games things you missed!

personally, I've spent thousands of hours playing ds2 but I never knew you could get to the 2nd floor of the majula mansion until today

>>135697185
Pretty clear that the stomach is part of the hitbox, which makes sense.

>>135692953
You mean the small guy with a bag on his head?

>>135697230
I spent three hours looking for straid's cell while avoiding Ruins Sentinel today until I noticed the breakable boards in that courtyard with the dog's and pursuer.

>>135693896
>wants meme resolution over 60 fps
May as well get PS4 then

>>135697230
It took me a year to find the right path to get to the corpse with the spell on it in Painted World of Ariamis. The one by the archer in the house with the fruitheads.

I never knew pressure plates changed boulder direction in Sen's

I would always get confused at the top of Sen's until I figured out you could go into the little area with the crossbow (where you fall if you miss the jump to the crestfallen merchant's tower) as soon as you entered that section of the roof

>>135697230
I didn't find Lucatiel in Black Gulch in DaS2 until my third playthrough.

If I'm planning to make a build with a heavy emphasis on pyromancy, should I go with base stats to wield a weapon and infuse with fire, or go with softcapped stats instead and go uninfused?

>>135697530
What game?
In DaS1, go base stats and chaos infusion.
In DaS2, you want fire infusion, but keeping some scaling might be worth it.
In 3, base stats and fire infusion looks good so far.

>>135697619

My bad. It's 2. I figure I'll try out both infused and uninfused. Thanks.

>>135697185
>shitter wants to hide under the boss
>boss flattens him
Who would've expected that? Certainly not people used to 4-legged bossed in souls games

>>135697619
If they keep the mundane path from DaS2 it might be better off to start as Deprived and just do that as quickly as possible.

>>135697668
Well in 2, the way flame weapon works is it adds 50 fire damage to a weapon (or some such), then multiplies ALL the fire damage on the weapon by an amount. So you want a weapon with natural fire damage, infused with fire, then buffed with fire. Uninfused isn't worth it in 2 if you're not a str or dex build - you want raw or maybe enchanted if you're Int.

>>135697230
I didn't find the first bonfire in the Forest of Fallen Giants until my fifth play through.

I didn't find out how to actually get to the laddersmith in Earthen Peak until like a month ago, he would always just appear in Majula by himself every other time

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>tfw caved and bought a bloodborne box

>tfw it's my favorite of the series by such a horrifyingly large margin, and makes pretty much every boss fight in earlier games look so slow and predictable that i'm legitimately scared that i've preemptively lessened my enjoyment of DaS3

this is honestly concerning; is anyone else in the same boat? those of you who've been spoiled, does DaS3 seem faster?

should i get it on ps4 or pc? the prospect of fewer cheaters is very appealing

>>135697185

>gets pancaked by his immense cock

lmao
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>>135697737
That's very old data.
How they actually work:
1. Buffs don't add any amount of flat damage.
2. They multiply all base damage of the weapon. Including damage of different elements and physical damage.
3. They don't multiply scaling at all.
So he wants a weapon with huge base damage, like bluemoon greatsword or black dragon sword or melu scimitar or whatever, then he needs to infuse it with lightning (since it's the least resisted element in PvE) and then buff it with flame weapon.

>>135697938
if you know anyone else who is playing it, get it on that system. Otherwise, w/e you would rather play it on man.

I have a pc, so that's what I am stuck with.

>>135698003
. . . when did that change? Because it's kinda retarded.

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>>135697938
>buy game designed to break average FROM mold and be super fast paced
>hmm this makes all the other bosses slow and predictable
>I wonder why

>>135697167

Yeah sure just tossed this together:

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/46397

I don't remember what I used to run, but that build should be plenty good.

Also sometimes I'd use a bow.

>>135697938

I really like BB as well and a BBstation 4. It's equally tied with Das1 for me, but I got my replayability out of 1 because I'm sick to death of Chalice Dungeons after the same 15th run of them to get the top tier gems.

Das3 looks like its shaping up to be BB 2.0 Tbh.

>>135698043
The data you gave was from the guide that was made before release. Since release they tweaked buffs a lot in patches.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkSouls2/comments/2xpwud/the_mystery_of_buffs_a_post_of_calculations_and/

>>135697185
Not the first sign of bad hitboxes. Iudex has some questionable hitboxes sometimes as well.

>>135698095
Thanks anon, appreciate it. This looks pretty solid, going to adapt it a little and use it. I always have a backup bow for cheese/long range, so that's fine w/ me.

>>135698003

Wait what? I was going to use the longsword since it's light and one of my favourite weapons. Is that really how it works? I was planning to use it in PvP too, not just PvE. I'm not as much a fan of lightning/Faith and wanted to try pyromancy, since I'd never really used anything but pure str and/or dex.

>>135693301

Looks like we're going to need to use AHK again to fix the keybinds.

>>135698301
See >>135698120
Longsword is good because of its moveset, not damage. It's top tier in PvP and, because of spammable piercing 2hr2, very good in PvE.
But if you want huge damage you should use something else.

>>135698186
No problem, some notes are:

The int and faith are mainly to reach the elemental resistance soft caps. The pyro scaling is just a small bonus.

The kings crown helps with the previous note, but also prevents you from hollowing after you do a certain sidequest. Not hollowing is pretty useful for PVPing in general.

I meant to put great combustion and warmth, not two great combustions.

The rest is pretty self explanatory. Scaling bleed as high as possible.

Have fun.

>>135698434

Isn't the huge damage what pyromancy is for? The longsword would be what I'd use to get through a level, and to poke enemies/whatever.

Though now that I'm asking, what build would be best if I wanted to use a purer form of damage, IE: quality? I remember trying quality out when the game first came out and found out it was awful, and it was better to go base stats and 30/30 Str/Fai and infuse with dark for anyone who wanted to be a "pure" melee. Is that still the case, or was that fixed?

anyone know what mortican's ashes lets you buy from the hag?

you pick them up in the bit where the giant keeps shooting arrows at you

>>135698523
Many mobs have good elemental resistances. Dex and str are stronger than elemental. Definitely stronger if you would use item buffs. Quality though is pretty shit.

>>135698120
I'm retarded can I get a cliffnote's version of what this means?

>>135698763

That kind of sucks. How do I deal damage to players then? Do I have to go with a hex, sorcery, faith, or pyro build? I wanted to go 27/40 which shouldn't be a problem with pyro since you don't need stats, right?

Technically incomplete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgjLLi7CRUU

Careful.

Triggers 9/10 Anons for Quad City DJs

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AM I KAWAII?

>>135698834
As i said, physical with str or dex is stronger than elemental. Doubly so in PvP, since anyone worth a damn has good elemental defences.
>>135698825
See >>135698003

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>>135698929

>face tattoo

>>135699023
decent otherwise?

>>135698929
eyebrows are too high and your character's face appears to be tattooed - i'm going to be charitable and assume that was a mistake.

Better luck next time.

>>135699075
>>135699023
lower brows, remove mike tyson.
Anything else?

>>135699053

No

Eyes too big
Hair too greasy
Nose weird shape

3/10 best I can do

>>135699183
>hair too greasy
opinion discarded

>>135699246

Take a shower you disgusting pig.

>>135698929
Oblivion high elf/10

>>135699351
>my grimdark waifu has to be clean
Go play Blade & Soul.

>>135699364
Fair enough.

>>135698929
Why the long face?

>>135699402
>>135699364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN80_7rNmcE

>>135698929

It's shit.

>>135699023
>>135699075
>>135699183
>>135699404

/dsg/ once again proving it is impossible to make a good-looking female character in Dark Souls

>>135699521
only because none of these nerds know what a real woman looks like. myself included

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>>135699521

Nah just impossible for you.

>>135699657
post you're waifu :^)

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>>135699707

>>135699402
At the very least it's a modded oblivion elf

>>135699521
All you gotta do is pick Commoner in Dark Souls 1 and you're done

>>135699521
I saw a decent KLK Satsuki but that was a while ago

>>135699747
10/10

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anyone wanna help me with ornstein and the jew? even with solaire i cant kill em, and I'm low on humanity thanks to invaders.

>>135697185
Not even a bad hitbox. The characters upperbody clips through the Bordt's butt. Of course you're going to get hit.

>>135699841
Oh, should mention that this is a normal NG and I just installed Wulf's connectivity mod.

>>135699597
That makes no sense, real women looks horrible.

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>>135700003
Maybe your mom does

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>>135700124
>celebs

So in ds2, do daggers have a faster backstab animation than say a straight sword?
I know there are two animations, one with bigger weapons and one with smaller weapons, but the actual speed of the animation, does that change?

>>135700209
No. Straight Swords have shit critical damage though.

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Why is it so hard to make a decent female? Why does the skin around the mouth always look so muddy?

>>135700259
where do I see critical damage?

Vordt is a clipping nightmare.

It's like they made an ice dog thing and then said you know what this guy needs? A fucking mace! and then gave it a fucking mace.

>>135700521
I don't think you can see it, but you can test backstabs and ripostes to test numbers

>>135700521
Nowhere.
You have to test it yourself.

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>>135700554
the way it attacks reminds me of Ludwig's first form. Especially his 2nd phase.

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Can anyone drop me an Agape ring at like sub-30k SM?

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>get DaS3 on PS4 and suffer 30 second loading screens

>get DaS3 on PC and suffer a game that struggles to stay at 60 on a monster rig with 16GB ram, a 4GHz i7, 2 SLI Titans

>>135700209
I'm pretty sure daggers, straight swords, hammers, drakekeeper great hammer, and horizontal attacking greataxes all have the same backstab confirm speed

>>135698393
lolwat
why
they're fine this time retard

>>135701354
Just don't play at 1080p.

>>135701354
That wasn't sli titans, it was a single 980.

Also, here me out here.

>Get Das3 on PC and suffer 4 second load times and stable 30 FPS

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>>135701354
>tfw still playing games on my GTX 680
>dont know if I can run DaS3 on ultra stable

;___;

>>135701050
Can't be dropped
Betwix->majula->heides->warf->bastille
As long as you summon for the 2 bosses and don't die you can get to straid before you even have 30k SM

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>Suzuki is only involved in DS3 OST for one main game composition again despite all three of his works in bloodborne being the best boss themes in entire franchise

>>135701050
if you wanna twink like i do, then be a man and get your tools yourself.
unless you're abusing SM by trading weapons to have high end equipment on low sm

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minor adjustments
>smaller eyes
>no tattoo
>light red hair
>jade eyes
>can't do lips easily
>about as low as the brows go
>still horse face
I'd give it a 6/10 myself, and I'm happy with that.
>going to wear a helmet anyways
autism

>>135693424
Any chanses for DS4 button icons on pc?

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does this sound about right?

>>135702131
>>>/v/

>>135702131
>bloodborne
>plebeian
>des not rose-tinted glasses

>>135702131
ya

>>135702131
I'd just put everything under Patrician.

>>135702131
swap bloodborne and das2 if you're being honest with yourself

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>>135702131
could you fuck off? I know what you're trying to do. Just leave.

So did IGN released that 60fps footage that they said they would?

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>>135702270
>bloodborne is better than DaS2.

fucking KEK

>>135702319

I'm not trying to do anything.

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>>135702394
but it is...
Nice Justin Bieber reaction image by the way

>>135702394
it is. bloodborne is actually a game that didnt have director issues in development and wasnt a thrown together piece of shit with unfinished animations enemies unfinished everything. have you LOOKED at the surroundings in dk2 ?

>>135702394
oh my god this is so boring. do something

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>flamewar attempts
>trips
you faggots seriously make me wish there was a separate ds3 general

>>135702503
then go away whiny little bitch

>>135702503
>what is a filter
>muh edgy anti-tripfag meme

>>135702594
and here's this fucktard misusing the word "meme" again
holy shit this shithole can't rot in hell any faster

>>135701851

How does the skip past Lucatiel work to get the Antiquated Key? I've been fucking up the jump around the side of the tower for like 30 minutes.

>>135694363
Crowsteel wasn't cheating though, you could really reach that damage with a BLT build with the Repeater with it's fuck huge base damage. Only their healths are vastly inflated with around 3k when max at 99 vit and all runes is 2.2

>>135692880
>anastacia
>happy
>legs

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>>135702693
>he wasn't cheating
>he just has unobtainable hp and infinite bullets

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>>135702503
>the new poll guy
>the youtube shill trip
>the guy who constantly shits on BB graphics and posts bullshots to compare
I'm starting to miss 4shits.

>>135702816
>>135702503

DSG has filled my filter more than most generals on /vg/

>>135702760
He heals once vs your 20 times so you would have more effective HP then him. And all his guns have infinite ammo just like all Black Phantom in Dark Souls have infinite spell casts cause they can't aim/parry for shit.

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>>135702816
>I'm starting to miss 4shits.
don't you say that...DON'T YOU EVER SAY THAT!

>>135702867
There is no way we're the worst general, right? There's still shit like undertale general and tesgeneral, right?

>>135695860
that's anime as fuck. now do it with ds3 flying kataners

>>135701354
>play it in 5 days
>play it in 3 weeks

i dont know what to do anons, i dont know whether its worth struggling with the fact i cannot speak japanese and being able to play it soon or just try and avoid everything for the next 3 weeks

>>135696714
>not dont_talk_to_me_or_my_little_guy_ever_again.jpg

>>135702358
So, anyone?

>>135702131

All of the games were good, all of them had their strengths and weaknesses.

>>135702891

I've still never seen that person's art. Where can I find it so I can understand how hated they were?

>>135702358
check their youtube you bum

>>135702924
katawa shoujo

>>135702693

That's wrong though.
Even with 99 BLT and the repeating pistol you cannot get close to the same damage on another player. Maybe with BMA, but bloody crow doesn't use BMA.

>>135703398
There's still a general for that garbage game?
Jesus Christ.

>>135699948
you should also mention your level

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I don't understand why people think that Bloodborne requires more intelligent gameplay and quicker thinking than the other FROM games. Having played through each of the souls games and Bloodborne multiple times, it doesn't make much sense to me. Despite Bloodborne having more intricate weapon designs/movesets, it doesn't feel that way while playing the game. The bosses felt very predictable, and were much slower than expected. Most of them could be staggered very easily, as well as most being beaten with ease by simply walking behind them and spamming attacks. Decision making isn't as important during fights, considering how quickly blood vials activate and how many you can hold at once. Not only that, but having so little stamina consumed by practically everything you do ends up making it feel more mindless and spammy than any of the souls games. I really enjoyed most of the humanoid fights, especially Gascoigne, and including the hunter mini-bosses, but the rest of the game felt like a big disappointment. Am I missing something? A huge part of the gameplay? Because I fail to see where the notion that Bloodborne's combat being more difficult/engaging/fun than the other games comes from.

>>135702924
FGG is still worse.

>>135703385
It's that 30fps stream they had you bum

>>135703528
Spammy is the word. I don't really like BB's combat and never even bothered with PvP.

>>135703528
>I don't understand why people think that Bloodborne requires more intelligent gameplay
I don't know how someone could think that either. The whole game can easily be beaten by spamming R1 and dodging occasionally if you use the saw cleaver (the weapon that appeared in all of the promotional material).

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>>135703528
I played BB like I played every other Souls game. no shield and a huge ass weapon. I enjoyed it immensely.

>>135703528

Bloodborne surprised me personally with how much faster enemies tend to be, and how the bosses were kind of difficult instead of being very easily abused like in DaS (with magic, and with easily dodged moves). Plus no shield meant you couldn't turtle.

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why did FROM shit on das2 sorcery so hard? i'm struggling to find even a single spell that scales relevantly into lategame and dlc content

crystal fucking soul spear takes two or three casts at 99 int with a 600 dmg catalyst against basic bitch enemies and every other 'big nuke' spell has been turned into an overly-animated joke that leaves you recovering for a year even with like 200% cast speed

i just want to blow shit up with spells but it's fucking dumb when i could just be chaining melee hits for like 4k dmg instead as a str/buff build

>>135703603
it's 60fps gameplay being streamed at 30 fps

>>135702131
Demon's souls had several flaws that no one adresses, since /v/-shitters never fucking played anything but DkS and DS2.

Fuck off.

>>135702594
>anti-tripfag
quite the opposite, i want tripshits to tripshit. makes them easier to filter and ignore

>>135703701
it was too good so they made it useless

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Reminder.

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>>135703528
Bloodborne requires you to pay attention to the timing of every enemy attack.
Every enemy and every boss is designed to fuck you if you mistime a dodge.
You also have to get in and be quick if you want to rally health.

You have no shield deflection L1+R1 turtling to carry you through the entire game like Souls.
You have no poise and can only rely on super armor.
You can't just backstab cheese everything and parrying drains a resource unless you equip runes for it.
You must react quickly but also not panic dash.

>>135703849
Incoming ladle.

>>135703716
So essential 30fps gameplay from where we watch it. I want to see how game plays in 60fps, not that the counter in the upper right corner stays at 60.
And i only ask because they said in the stream yesterday that they would release that footage without their commentary, only gameplay, in full 60 fps, hell, i thought they would put a download link or something instead of streaming it on the service that earlier allowed them 30 fps only.

>>135703716
first off
>because they had a counter on the top right of their screen oscillating around 59 it means that was their fps counters
and secondly, he asked for the footage to be on 60 fps

>>135703701

It used to be broken around the initial release, so they just nerfed it into oblivion.

I remember the good old days of enchanted MLGS, with crystal magic weapon.

Good times.

>>135703906
>yfw Ladle weapon art is Warcry
>it gets CUHRAZEE modified R2s

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who jap release here

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Wonder what's going to be the highest req for a pyromancy. Maybe 20/20 ?

>>135703926
>because they had a counter on the top right of their screen oscillating around 59 it means that was their fps counters
are you serious?
what else could it possibly mean

>>135703528
Congratz for all those (you).

>>135703986
I'm deciding on it. I mean, nearly a month between JP release and the rest of the world is a long time to dodge spoilers. And spoilers will be EVERYWHERE.

>>135704021
40/40.
They're the new hexes.
Mark my words.

>>135704021
50/50

Forbidden Great Chaos Tempest Lingering Sun Swathe Surge

>>135703926
It's the steam FPS counter. Any moron could recognize it.

>>135704154
my steam fps counter is different though. and it's not like steam has the copyrights to it, other people can use the font

has anyone seen footage of the greatshield the red cape guys use before vordt?
or the shield you get in the tree bossfight?

Why the fuck are NPCs from DkS back?

This makes no fucking sense.

>>135704227
Fanservice defensible by convoluted timelines..

Where do you guys recommend going after Anor Londo?
I have been through Darkroot Garden/Basin and gone down to Ash Lake btw

>>135702358
They'll reelase it next week.

>>135703385
They said they'll going to post strictly the in-game footage, without the commentary.

>>135704227
That's B-team for you.

>>135703905

You don't get punished nearly as hard in Bloodborne for mistiming a dodge/roll. Not only is avoidance quicker, but it also takes less stamina to do so. The rallying mechanic allows for much more forgiving gameplay, as well as carrying 20+ vials into every fight.

The bosses themselves have had poor AI and are generally very underwhelming. On my first playthrough, I first or second tried almost every boss. The difficulty was a joke, you could use the same strategy for almost every boss. The gameplay felt very mindless by comparison to other games.

Cheesing the game with shield turtling/poise stacking/backstab fishing is just cheese and shouldn't be considered in a discussion about actual gameplay imo. That being said, I don't think that people would need to cheese many bosses in BB considering that you can beat most bosses by spamming r1 and dodging occasionally.

>>135704227
There's supposeldy going to be a major reveal later on that will explain it, according to the Bamco community manager.

>>135704324
i do everything before anor londo (including new londo) except for the locked off lord soul areas

>>135704354
He's talking about dark souls 3.

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What if Yhorm the Giant is actually the DaS2 Great Sovereign?
>is an immortal DaS2 Giant
>Bears a crown
>Joined with Aldia in the end, who knows how to alter things with Giant Souls, Great Soverign had 5 at the end
>Is one of the Lords of Cinder who abandoned the Fire
>Is Lord of the Profaned Capital, where the Chaos Flame burns unendingly, perhaps taking care of Eleum Loyce

>>135704360
>You don't get punished nearly as hard in Bloodborne for mistiming a dodge/roll

Fucking what

The modifier you get for taking a hit while dashing/rolling is like x2, easily enough to oneshot people who don't pump VIT against bosses like Ebby

>>135703770
>>135703940

is there even a single relevant spell now? even the DLC spells do like.... 300 damage, average, with completely and utterly maxed out damage potential down to the ring slots

>>135704441
Surely not? Miyazaki-san would never do something as amateur and gimmicky as pander with fanservice

>>135704360
>i've never played BB but i've seen some videos so i know everything about it

>>135704468

what if we pretended that the abortion of dark souls 2 never actually happened

>>135704518
You meet andre in the first area and he's been relegated to tutorial duty.

Because fanservice isn't bad enough, they need to ruin characters dignity.

>>135704436
That doesn't answer my question though mate

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>24 days

>>135704441
And Dark Souls 3 is a B-team game. Miyazaki or not.

>>135704360
If you first tried the bosses, you are obviously skilled at the souls games, and should not shit on BB for making the bosses beatable.

I just refuse to believe, that anyone is able to beat Ludwig or OoK on their first couple of tries, without being overleveled as fuck.

>>135704567
>4 days

kekmate

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>>135704360
>You don't get punished nearly as hard in Bloodborne for mistiming a dodge/roll.
Ebrietas's fucking rush attack begs to differ.

>>135704543
That's going to be hard with dark souls 3 making various callbacks to it and borrowing mechanics from it.

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>>135704614

>Defiled Amy jump attack

>>135704552
Andre said the exact same tutorial stuff in DaS1 you delusional faggot

>>135704469

But you also take more damage during actions in the other games. Nothing new here.

>>135704519
>someone disagrees with me on the internet, they must be lying :-(

>>135704592
>I just refuse to believe, that anyone is able to beat Ludwig or OoK on their first couple of tries, without being overleveled as fuck.
>get whirlgig
>apply fire/bolt paper
>laugh

>>135704324
Anybody help me out here?

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>>135704360
>You don't get punished nearly as hard in Bloodborne for mistiming a dodge/roll.
suck a dick

BB's retarded counter modifier turns loads of shit into OHKO's even with 40vit

>>135704554
dooks if you're a sorc
tomb if you're a faith build
or maybe do painted world if you've skipped that, and the dlc

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>>135704360
>You don't get punished nearly as hard in Bloodborne for mistiming a dodge/roll.
is this a joke? you take like double or triple damage for getting hit while dodging. get one shotted all day in defiled chalice dungeons if you suck at dodging.

>>135704716
Did you return to the Asylum yet and got the doll? Head to Painted World.
Or kill Sif and go to New Londo

>>135704705
You don't take nearly as much in other games. The instability damage multiplier in Dark Souls 1 is 1.4x

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>no more adaptability
>no more soul memory

>>135704592
Ludwig's second phase was fun, too bad he suffered from bloodboss syndrome, the total inability to deal with being attacked from behind. The first half was very easy, with the exception of the mixup between his long swing and short swing.

>>135704614
People actually get hit by that?

>>135704592
>get OP weapon
>beat enemies easily
>wow this game is 2 ez

>>135704772
Yeah i went back and killed the stray demon and shit, the painting is in Anor Londo right?

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>>135704797
I'M SO EXCIIIITED!!!!!! DaS3 is gonna be the bomb diggety.

>>135704712
>I used the internet to find out that Ludwig is weak against PC.
It doesn't apply to OoK anyway. But yeah, Ludwig does get destroyed pretty easily by the Pizza cutter, but few players would go all-out and level a weapon they just acquired.

>>135704798
>People actually get hit by that?

oh so youre baiting, okay. well played.

>>135704828
Yes, it's in the lower part of the big cathedral where you walked the rafters. You can get there via the elevator tower.

>>135704021
This seems to be a pretty reasonable stat requirement for one of the best pvp pyromancies.
Unless pyro flame has a really good scaling i see no reason to not use pyro flame once again.

>>135704804
>not using something good
>because hurr durur
shtu up

>>135704360
>You don't get punished nearly as hard in Bloodborne for mistiming a dodge/roll
the fuck you're talking about
instability frames after a dodge give like 40% damage boost against you
chalice ebrietas can 1hko anything without 40-50 vit if you fuck up to dodge her charge

>>135705005
Are you dense? If you use an OP weapon, it doesn't mean that the boss is easy, it just means that the weapon is fucking overpowered.

>>135702131
>DaS2
>contrarian

It's the game most discussed legitimately in this thread. If anything

>>135705075
the boss is easy with that weapon
so its easy
>>135705153
its a bad game

>>135705153
*If anything the people who shit on it are the minority

>>135705019
Other games also had an instability damage modifier.

I've noticed that most people reference either a jump or charge move when arguing this point, could it be that there are really that few attacks which actually punish you for messing up? It would make sense, considering that you can just get your health back so easily with either lightning-fast health restores that seemingly have no end to them, or just pressing R1 some more.

>>135705207
>Other games also had an instability damage modifier.
other games had shields and slower bosses

>>135705178
It's not a bad game. Be assured that I think higher of you for having such a unique and intellectually superior taste though m8

>>135705201
The vocal minority for sure. Thankfully it's easy to filter.

>>135705178
>tripfag

and your opinion is discarded

>>135704804
>what?
>you're NOT gimping yourself?
>how DARE you?
>dont talk to me or my messengers ever again!
Just admit that all the games in the series have severe balancing issues, and that, ultimately, all bosses suck against X set up, which ideally shouldn't be happening. It's a design flaw, and quite a major one.
>>135704891
It's a weapon. You don't even have to look up a guide on to how to find it, it's fairly easy to stumble across while just exploring.
>It doesn't apply to OoK anyway
You're giving Orphan way too much credit here. Shit's almost as busted as BKH on RTS.
>but few players would go all-out and level a weapon they just acquired.
Well weapons are hella easy to upgrade, and it looks dope as fuck. Why not?

>>135705259
>using a shield

Also, bloodborne's bosses aren't exactly the fastest. Besides maybe Gascoigne, Paarl, and Gehrman I thought that they were all big sandbags. Blood Starved was fast but I think that his hitboxes are broken or something because he can't hit at all.

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>people still defend Dark Souls 2

>>135705268
i have played demon souls dark souls 1 and dark souls 2
yet i can still confirm dark souls 2 is worse than blood borne
why?
dks2 is LITERALLY an unfinished crap game.
>>135705334
>Anonymous
>doesnt know that dks2 is literally unfinished
opinion non existant, literal sheep. a wallet for from

>>135701354
>30 sec load screens
BB patched has 8 - 15 please stop the lies. We all know you don't own a PS4.

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>>135705419
>people believe DaS2 is a bad game

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>>135705413
>aren't exactly the fastest
faster than anything else in series

>>135705419
i enjoyed it and put over 400 hours in 2 and sotfs
its still a fucking incomplete garbage
>>135705464
it is.... its literally scrapped together garbage with 50 pixel square repeating textures
none of the game is refined besides the DLCs, but the DLC are actually finished content

>>135705464
If they believed it, they wouldn't feel the need to post about it endlessly trying to convince everyone.

Really, they're just doing it to try to convince themselves.

>>135705431
>literal sheep
this coming from the autistic tripfag following a 4chin meme?

holy fuck tripcucks really are cancer of vg

>>135705413
>they aren't the fastest
>faster than anything in all souls games
lmao

>>135705492

>loran silverbeast spawning in its 2nd form right at the start

How horrifying.

>>135705346
well by your logic that would mean every boss is easy wouldnt it.
>what do you mean you didnt level str/dex/int/fai//vit/endurance to 99 while using dmb monastary scimitar, power within, darkmoon talisman, and red tearstone?
>youre gimping yourself you know

>>135705528
holy fuck you're a cuck
>>135705536
stop bringing memes into everything, you cant even think for yourself.
dark souls 2 is an unfinished game, had a bad director and brought a new director in near release date to scrape together something with assets from the failure

dark souls 2 is the shanty town of the souls series

>>135705413
>bloodborne's bosses aren't exactly the fastest

YEEEEEEAAAOOOWWW

>>135705413
>bloodborne's bosses aren't exactly the fastest
lol

>>135705492
>>135705608

I never meant relative to bosses from other games, I meant in general. Some bosses are faster than bosses from other games in the series, but making a few of them a bit faster than what people are used to from the series doesn't make up for the fact that other aspects of the gameplay are forgiving by comparison.

>>135705674
except it isn't a bad game you literal fucking autist. The least it's mediocre.

wail into your pillow all you want and furiously shittalk on /dsg/ but you're opinion is still wrong and the fact that you're a tripfag doesnt support the structure of your statements completely due to the fact that everybody who's not a newfag and lurks on 4chins long enough knows that the opinion of a shitposting tripcuck is undeniably incorrect

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>>135705783
>I never meant relative to bosses from other games
>Some bosses are faster than bosses from other games

>>135705437
I own a PS4 and the patch ending the 30 second load screens is a lie.
Please stop lying about the load screens.
It's still shit.

>>135705846

In my original comment, I wasn't comparing Bloodborne bosses to other games' bosses in terms of speed, I was just saying that they aren't particularly fast.

In the one you're quoting, I made a comparison since it was being made by people replying to my original post.

Is there a problem?

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>/dsg/ Discord
https://discord.gg/0t9VioBfIvE7dz8j
Comfy as fuck atm

>>135705967
>The home of king shitposter

No thanks.

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This place right now is at its worst.
Never thought it was ever possible to fall any lower.

>>135706005
Lucy isn't here I hope

>>135706021
I wish that the Bl*odb*rne posters would just leave forever and never come back just like the game

>>135706021
I take it you don't visit many generals

>>135706021
But 4cucks isn't here any more anon