/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

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NIGGA IF YOU WANT GOOD FEEDBACK ON YOUR DEMO TELL ME WHAT GAME TO PLAY NOW

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i need synthwave music

>std::vector of struct containing various stuff
>one of the elements is a texture
>upon startup of the program, textures are loaded from hdd and pushed back into vector
>later cycle through vector and to draw textures on screen
>only the last one appears
>always only the last one
>all elements of of the vector appear healthy
>all elements are always treated the same
>all of the textures fail to appear, except for the last one
>doesn't matter how many or how little there are in
>it's always only the last one
>even while drawing, they are healthy
>they still fail

All of my fucking what. I've spent hours figuring this out, I don't even know what to do anymore.

>>135679108
>Quit
>Quit2
AGDG games are so awful they need to quit buttons

>>135679773
You mean
https://macross82-99.bandcamp.com/album/jutsu-ep

>>135679893
>write a blog about my problems
>don't provide source so somebody can help

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>have idea for game
>think about it for more than 10 minutes
>find gaping flaws or can't figure out how to make it fun

>>135680103
What was the last idea you poked to death?

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added some more dust poof action. 100% more poofs.

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Artist here.

I feel really worthless. I have to go to a shitty art college for 4 years so I can do studio work in the states.

Sometimes, I feel like I should just say fuck it and go full freelance for games of all types...

I wonder if your game design fags relate?

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I've got the shape and texturing roughed out for the latest stage for my game. The lower untextured portion will be a bridge, the upper will be a waterfall.

What would be the best way to handle the water fall and water edges? Figure the majority of the water fall could be a scrolling texture and use particles for where it hits the water below.

>>135679487
Give this a try. It's a tactical RPG.
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-7/rate/48140

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>>135679989
I like this

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>hard drive died
>cant get old dev stuff off it
y liv?

>>135680262
You might as well just making him a giant dust poof now.
>>135680364
Kavinsky might fit better though.

>>135680417
>not making daily backups

>>135680262
>reddit
>tumblr
>no gameplay
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bag

>>135680417
>not making backups
>not using VCS

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>>135680468
Or Com Truise

>>135680272
How good is your art already? Post pics

>>135680583
or Danger.

>>135680103
Make prototype, that's the easiest way. Maybe you'll discover a bug that actually makes it fun, maybe it will be fun with some simple number tweaks, maybe you'll think of something while devving it. If the prototype would take more than 2 weeks to finish the game is too big to begin with.

>>135680289
Downloading. Are you gonna be around for a while?

>>135680262
I think the meme-poly and dust look bad together.

If you really want an effect like that you should do it similar to how Grow Home did it and have actually modeled, opaque, flat shaded rocks come up.

https://clyp.it/i1z2vm41

>>135680709
Yes. Mostly screwing around in Blender and checking this thread. Demo currently has just one stage available with 3 scenes.
Demo AI - Watch AI fight
Demo Battle - Fight the AI
Demo Units - Look at the units.

>>135680262
Hello Vine

>>135681049
What is this supposed to be?

>>135681095
I get a fatal exception on startup, anon.

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>trying to install monogame
>3.4 lets me add templates to visual studio
>3.5 doesn't
Any ideas?

>>135681095
>>135681336

Here's a shitty translation
OpenGL V.4.4
Fatal exception on startup: Input string isn't formatted correctly.
Stack:
in System.Number.ParseSingle(String value, NumberStyles options, NumberFormatInfo numfmt)
in System.Convert.ToSingle(String value)
in HowDoGameDevEngine.Gui.GuiObject.GetMeasurementFromAttribute(XAttribute attribute, MeasurementUnit& unit, Boolean& measureFromOpposite)
in HowDoGameDevEngine.Gui.GuiObject.SetPositionAttributes(XElement xControlElem)
in HowDoGameDevEngine.Gui.Menu..ctor(XElement xMenuElem)
in HowDoGameDevEngine.Gui.StaticMenu..ctor(XElement xMenuElem)
in HowDoGameDevEngine.Gui.Menu.LoadMenu(XElement xMenuElem)
in HowDoGameDevEngine.Gui.Menu.LoadMenus(GameCore gameCore)
in HowDoGameDevEngine.Core.GameCore.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
in OpenTK.GameWindow.Run(Double updates_per_second, Double frames_per_second)

in OpenTK.GameWindow.Run()
in TacticalRpg.Program.Main(String[] args) en c:\Users\phillip\Dropbox\HowDoGameDev\HowDoGameDevProjects\TacticalRpg\TacticalRpg\Program.cs:line 24

>>135681336
Probably a poorly formatted shader. Can you post the contents of the console? Screenshot or text works.

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>tfw no programmer to work with

>>135681918
post art

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>have this great idea i've been thinking about constantly for months
>been drawing concept art, thinking about the music, thinking about the gameplay mechanics
>haven't even started programming or played with Game Maker
FUCK

>>135682018
it's an audio game, there's no need for art since it's for blind people.

I already have a musician that wants to work in this.

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spaceships are mechs?

>>135682056
Never do this. Your game is bound to change in development, so half of what you have right now will go out the window anyway.

>>135682129
Great, give me his email so we can start working.

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>>135682297
bro, I've been posting since 3 days I want to work with a programmer.

>>135681905
>>135681897

>>135682510
>>135681897
I think that issue would be caused by a bad XML file. I downloaded a copy of the game to my laptop and it started fine. Sounds like a corrupt download or something went wrong during decompression.

If you're willing, I'll patch the game to print the id of whatever menu object it's loading and I can identify the issue that way.

>>135682674
I'll try redownloading then, but I'll be around for a while, so if you patch it I can give it a shot

>>135679893

post code, my idea is that you are overwriting the texture entry.

>>135680103

idea guys arent so useless anymore huh

>>135682437
You're a programmer cristian

>>135683016
[citation needed]
But really he's bounced around all the major languages and tools so much his knowledge is probably fragmented to fuck.

>>135683016
I lack the knowledge to code an audio system from scratch.

>>135683196
So do I, I'm a game programmer, not an enginedev

>>135683196
>to code an audio system from scratch.
For what reason, there are libraries for every language you melon.

>>135683324
android lack MIDI capabilities.

most android shit that has some kind of dynamic audio like DAWS and virtual pianos have to code their own shit from scratch.

I'm sure there must be some libraries, but they lack good documentation.

Like I said, is really beyond my skills.

>>135683479
I swear we've gone over this before and I told you to use .ogg like a normal person.

>>135679108
>that file
fucking kek

>>135683526
I can't simply use audio files because it's a dynamic system.

>>135683479
why the fuck do you want to use .midi

>>135683635
What in the world are you trying to make?

>>135683691
$5 on something dumb

>>135679773
look up perturbator

>>135682437
Is that the only piece of art you have, or what?

>>135683638
It's widely used, I think it would be easy to code a midi player if you're a real software engineer.

>>135683691
see
>>135681918
look that picture, it's the idea.

>>135683840
>>>135681918
someone give me my $5

>>135683839
http://cristianceron.deviantart.com/

>>135679773
Laserhawk

>it's a cristian tries to do something incredibly dumb thread
better than googfag shitposting prime time t b h

Reposting updated version of my Unity class
http://pastebin.com/aNSppNa9

It allows you to new up a fake Transform without using a GameObject in the real world and manipulate it using Transform's methods (for things like forward, RotateAround, etc)

It doesn't deal with hierarchy structure like Transforms do, but I didn't need it to for my use cases.
>yeah, it's like 40-45% comments, most of the class is overloaded methods

>>135684257
cool blog update

>>135683840
That's way too fucking dynamic for you to even begin getting a playable state in the next 10 years.
Especially considering your work habit.
Even scoping it down to a pre-made track for a level is going to be an immense amount of work.

Not to mention:
Pitch
cutoff
decay
attack
panning
EQ leveling mechanics
Hz
Resonance
Figuring out how to balance dissonance.
And many more variables.

Find a new game please.

>>135684257
What would it be useful for?

>>135684086
I guess I need to make first a prototype to get people interested.

>>135684286
>premade track
that's the idea.

Simply a human composed level that switches between layers.

>>135684440
Why do you need a musician though? You probably mastered music after making that wheel of fifths app you raved about for like half a year, and even attacked me when I told you it was a dumb idea. I bet you're already Bach-tier

>>135684440
That's not something you can do, atleast right now.
A game like that takes a musician with years of composing experience.

I honestly don't know why I'm trying to help you, you never listen when we tell you the dumb shit you're doing.

>>135680272
i feel like there are plenty of books and courses you can start with

if you are going to a prestigious college it might help you more than a good portfolio, but i feel like the resrouces for self learning out there are far greater than what teachers at school can offer
also mind you that a teacher rolls out everything at a slow pace, while with videos or books you can basically skip to whatever material you are looking for

>>135682867
I actually think I found the issue, I'm just not sure how to resolve it. I don't even know how to properly explain it.
I'm initializing a sprite object, which itself only points to an existing texture like this:
vector.back().sprite.setTexture(vector.back().texture)

However, since std::vector::back() itself returns a reference, I think the issue is that the sprite will point at something different once there's a new element inserted at the end of the vector.

Or something like that, I really don't know anymore.

>>135684542
>>135684590
I found a musician on facebook and show him my idea and he was interested.

i don't know what to work on

>>135684675
It won't be your game though considering he'll be doing most of the work.
Oh well.
Have fun I guess.

>>135684430
The basic example is "You want to store the information that a Transform stores, and you want access to Transform's methods, but you don't want to have a real world GameObject because of complexity/performance concerns"

My example is that I'm trying to lerp between 2 "Transform"s position and rotation with a Camera object, but I don't actually have real world Transforms and can't afford to have them. The only Transform I have to work with is the Camera's. That would have been fine, except that I want to manipulate the 'target' transform that I'm lerping to WHILE I'm lerping to it. That would require me to manually calculate how I'd manipulate my target Quaternion and Vector3 because I wouldn't be able to use the Transform object. Creating this allows me to new up a fake Transform and manipulate it, then I can apply it when I need to as well as manipulate the fake Transform during flight.

The problem could be solved with a real world Transform object, but that's what I'm trying to avoid having. Especially since I'm building a large series of components for manipulating Cameras.

>>135684675
Why do you need a musician though? You probably mastered music with the circle of fifths app by cristianceron 2015

>>135684828
I dunno, I'm not an ideas guy.
there's something like designers I guess.

>>135684841
Why do you feel the need to say that.
I never claimed I'm a musician.

>>135684969
> I'm not an ideas guy.
Quit gamedev right now and become a comedian.

>>135684969
Designers have useful skills for the project, though. You're pretty much an idea guy. Not even an ideas guy. An idea guy.

And I feel the need to say that because you felt the need to spend time shitposting about how your completely unrelated to gamedev unity app would make you a musician.

>>135685096
why the agression though.

I need some help because coding audio is beyond my skills.

>>135685206
I've made small stuff.

I just need some help because I can't code the audio part.

'lambda'

'delta'

shh no one tell him

>>135685296
>why the agression though.
Because you're beyond help and maybe the harshness will wake you up one day.
You made the most progress with Unity, go back to that.
Dump the dumb audio game until you're competent enough.
There's plenty more genres out there.

>>135682193
as long as it transforms!

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>>135682832
Uploaded new version: "TacticalRPG-2016031801.7z".
It should hopefully tell what menu attribute is breaking things.

>>135684654

yup you are doing what i think you are doing, to fix this. back() is not push_back() so instead of making vector of say size 3 go to size4, you are just pointing to the end of vector size 3. Use push_back() I think its how it goes, look up documentation for sure.

>>135685296
>coding audio is beyond my skills
also programming, animating, music, and human proportions

>>135685507
the problem wouldn't be making the game.
I could make it with unity in a few hours, there's a MIDI library.

My problem comes because it sounds like crap on mobile.

>>135685620
dl'ing

>>135685620
>an engine
WHAT LANGUAGE?

>>135685707
Then stop doing mobileshit.

>>135685641

wait rereading, what exactly are you trying to do. Like do you have a vector already full of textures, and you are trying to iterate through them?

>>135685826
I guess I should stop with mobile shit.

Oh well, I guess I'll do the prototype in unity then.

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>>135685620
uh oh
and that's not the last one

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>>135685926
I had to press enter about 50 times

>>135685825
C# and uses OpenGL.

>>135686096
>C#
uh
why?

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>>135686215
Because basically all modern (non-esoteric) languages are perfectly fine for indie gamedev ya cunt.

Might as well use something that speeds development and minimizes bugs.

>>135686092
>>135685926
This took a moment to figure out, but I have a theory. Do you use a comma instead of a period for a number containing a decimal? So 1 and a half would be "1,5" instead of "1.5"?

>>135686354
but anon
mandatory OO

>>135686354
>minimizes bugs
the only thing that minimizes bugs is not writing shitty code

>>135686569
>OO
>bad
alright /g/ you can go now.

>>135686606
Yes, and it's easy to not write shitty code in C#.

>>135686215
Because I like the language and find it easy to use.

>>135686546
I personally don't, but I just opened the windows calculator and typing 2.85 in my numpad gives me a 2,85 in the display. So maybe you're right, and it's related to the locale?
This is probably the shittiest bug ever then.

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Literally Insane Shitposter's taking a ban nap, time for a language war!

>>135686647
debatable, but it is an easier language to learn.
I had to fix a shit load of bugs when I was brought onto a project recently that was in C# because the last programmer wrote a bunch of shitty code

>>135686643
>OO
>good
the indirection anon
the indirection

>>135686828
A helplessly shitty programmer is going to write shitty code no matter which language they use, at which point a debate about the finer points of language choice is moot.

>>135686893
>the indirection
The only indirection it's doing is by your own incompetent hand.

>>135686828
>but it is an easier language to learn
People confuse "easier" with "more efficient"

Just because something is faster, doesn't make it 'easier'. C# doesn't waste your time with reinventing wheels so you can focus on actually producing new content rather than focusing on reinventing all 4 wheels for your car.

>>135686958
precisely, so saying that C# is easier to not write shitty code in is also a moot point because it comes down to the programmer not the language.

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>>135686354

>>135687078
Sure if you're stuck of thinking of everything in terms of black and white.

>>135687042
what?

>>135687076
what are libraries for 300?

oop is bad meme

>>135687081
You forgot to include Godot with the metal butter knife.

>>135687081
>not half of it done in a very specific way already
>the knife isn't plastic

Almost there

>>135687081
Unity should be a spoon.

>>135687081
>ue4 not in C++ category
nice try friendo

>>135687081
GML is a butterknife with its edges smoothed out.
UE4 is a chainsaw.
Unity is a butterknife with it's edges only on half the blade towards the handle.

>>135687081
unity is half a piece of buttered bread and a fork

Hey, a YouTube guy played my game. Check it out. It's always fun and weird watching someone play your game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNKL6VVwTXY

>>135687543
A bummer that in the intro all your areas look pretty similar

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>>135674697
Still here, Where else would i go?
Looking good!
One thing about the old demo was that it was hard to see the weapons on the ground when there was a bunch of corpses and junk, also when a weapon spawns on you, like when you have a full ammo flamer and a shotgun spawns under you.

>>135687543
I can't bring myself to watch let's plays of my game...

>>135687081
this is stupid because a game can vary wildly in scope. UE4 would be a silly choice for a 2d platformer but perfect for a 3d fps

>>135687653
Yeah, true. It's just a demo of the first small area though.

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Implemented mouselook and a bunch of other things. Trying to make the movement less floaty and more responsive, also rethinking the 3d ui thingy.

>>135686758
Yeah, that's a pretty odd bug. My guess is that's also why the chess board in your image also looks wrong. I can fix that pretty quickly I think.

Is there some magical x position I can set my text to so that it always looks nice, regardless of screen resolution, where the speaker is, etc.?

>>135687735
woooooooah what is this game it looks sweet my dude

>>135687769
Good luck with that. I'm going to bed now, I'll try it again tomorrow if you update it.
God bless

>>135687717
Yeah it's kind of painful. But it's also great feedback. I always can figure out a lot of stuff to improve by watching it

>>135687914
Thanks for trying. Sorry about that, not something I'd expected. Good night.

>>135687717
ProfessionalNodev got stuck on mine for ~15 minutes. It was painful to see the one tiny "mistake" that was keeping them from progressing, but also a good sign if they were determined enough to keep trying to 15 mins. Its so crucial to see people play your thing to know where you need to be more accommodating.

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>>135687247
>>135687320
>>135687369
>>135687476
>>135687503
>>135687534

>>135688049
When did you pick this back up?

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What about...

A Diabo-styled RTS. Gameplay revolves around micro strategy instead of macro. You have to fight your way through randomly generated levels with a group of ~20 troops, who will pick up randomly generated loot to buff themselves. Different troops classes have abilities, such as clerics being able to heal or archers being able to shoot elemental arrows that can disable enemies

>>135688097
perfect

>>135688124
isnt that just an SRPG

>>135688097
You idiots are taking this way too far.

It doesn't even make any sense anymore.

>>135688124
>RG
Fuck off Mollydew

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>>135688049
> dreaming sarah is still alive
N I C E

>>135688202
>You idiots are taking this way too far.
No. This is very important.

>>135688124
>randomly generated level
>randomly generated loot

into the trash

>>135688097
>rpg maker
>buttering your toast with a butter knife and an already half-covered bagel
Sounds about right.

>>135688189
Are there any real time srpgs?

>>135687081
>comparing engines with languages
kewl

please no

>>135687081
>all games take exactly the same task to make

>>135682437
Programmer here, I want to work with you since your style has improved a lot since your DA games but fighting games aren't my style. Sorry.

>>135687903
its a /v/lancers remake sorta thingy. thanks brother bear!

>>135688372
please no

>>135688372
Thread's ruined. Go home, everybody.

>>135688706
/MQpnOFT8+UhB+vO1PzJLGg==/
hide stub
hide replies
F5

> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1945059142/elysian-shadows-next-gen-2d-rpg/description

150k dollars.

My debugger is totally fucked. In debug mode, a bunch of things update when they shouldn't, certain enemies have hitboxes that take up practically the entire game world, and the actual bug that I'm trying to fix doesn't occur.

>>135688780
Do you think you're actually a programmer because of that? lol.

>>135688865
What?
It's just an md5 filter.

>>135688828
Lmaoing @ your life, Blake. I'm lmaoing @ your the life of someone who actually thinks they're a real programmer, let alone a yesdev.

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>>135689074

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>>135689074
> namefags aren't even attentionwhoring (likely not even ITT)
> people still bring them up
ughhhhhh

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POST DEV MUSIC
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMudba7GPrse5Efrhka7-j0j79f4y32sS

>>135688815

150k is insanely cheap for what they're promising. In the real world you could hire maybe two full time employees for a single year on that little, and they were working for three years.

>>135689074
>>135689269

Who the hell is Blake?
I'm
>>135688828
by the way.

>>135689491
https://switchy.bandcamp.com/
Can upload the LNH volumes if anyone keeps a local collection here.
Really wish he hadn't started charging for digital albums.

>>135688815
>This shitty looking thing
>Somehow got coverage from all major magazines
>Dreamcast & Ouya & PC
>2014
This seems suspicious as fuck

>>135689491
This has to end. We've called our 'special friends' to stop you, since you apparently can't stop yourself.

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>>135689491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q

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Reminder that if everyone chips in to report the shitposter (singular) mods will actually step in to ban him.

>>135689671
Shaming real yesdevs yet again? Where is your game, Blake?

>>135689491

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE

>>135689705
Cool.

>>135689491
>that deadbolt track
I'm really not feeling it. I loved Chris in risky rain, but this one is awful

>>135689838

/vg/ only has one mod and he's only active for two hours per day.

>>135689954
There are a few videos where he explains the machine, check them out. The whole thing is amazing

>>135689491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDTPOOsr-mQ

is deadbolt going to be the next ror

>>135690475
no, it's pretty shitty and has no meme multiplayer

is Source a viable option for making a game

>>135690520
quite rude imo

>>135689705
That was really distracting, thanks.

I don't think you can really call that an instrument though, not that it isn't super cool.

>>135690702
better than praising it for no reason t b h
the music is not as good as ror, the gameplay is not as good as ror, and the level editor is probably not enough to save it
it's not like h$p$$ needs money anyways

>>135690761
>instrument
>an object or device for producing musical sounds.

>>135690613
Just look at @135688372 and see.

>>135688345
Mount and Blade sort of.

>>135688345
there are real time strategy games with arbitrary stats for things if thats what you mean

>>135690613

It is but Sourceposter gets flamed because their 'game' is just a HL2 custom map. The days of mods spinning off into popular standalone games are mostly behind us, though. Unity has pretty much cornered the casual development market.

>>135691081
> HL2 custom map
how do you know, nothing was ever posted except that one screenshot you keep reposting

>>135691081
>T-THE SOURCEPOSTER
>also unity is the only way to make a game, anything else is shitposting!!
Danny, stop ban-evading

>>135689491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDTPOOsr-mQ

If you are using anything other than Unity, you are shitposting and need to leave before we make you leave.

>>135690141
>>135691419
>posting the same thing twice in a row
why?

Unity is literally the only way to make a game. Learn this, Blake.

>>135689838
>Reporting
Just make some filters dude, it's easy as fuck

>>135690854
It's really just a music box that can have tracks turned off.

He was playing it like an instrument at one point, but it was pretty shitty and pointless like that.

>inb4 music boxes are instruments because Wikipedia said even though it doesn't even actually say that if you read the sentence immediately after the one you quoted

Reminder to report low quality posts.

>>135689491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_m0-f7N9hM

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>>135691636
why are you mad that people post good dev music

kurwa mac

>>135691835
A bit noisy for dev music but whatever.

>>135691727
Same could be said for the piano or guitar if you want to get that pedantic.

>>135691743
This. Non-Unity shitters need to go, and we have the power to make them go.

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>>135689491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv_XH23hm6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGR4RKQ3pWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvOds_aBTAk

>>135692007
Do you know what a music box is?

If so I'm not following you at all.

>>135692201
Yes and it's not a music box.
It has aspects of one but it's not entirely automated.

>>135692185
>anime
REPORT THIS POST
REPORT THIS POST

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Am I a gamedev yet?

>>135691727
>It's really just a music box that can have tracks turned off.
so not really a music box, and more of a mechanically driven sequencer where the sequences are prohibitively hard to change at "runtime"

>>135692323
sweden
yes

>>135692312
It's against the rules to call for people to report a post, Anon.

>>135692323
>debian
Yes
Fix ur resolution tho kid

>>135689491
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hJKhiew2O0

>>135692323
At least you're not using Source.

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>>135689491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5s-KLGVcTI

why is this general so obsessed with source

>>135692667
It is NOT game dev.

>>135692667
Memes

>>135692667
One shitposter with a fire under his butt. He's been shown numerous times to be fanning the flames of both sides of his own contrived argument.

>>135692667
Are you seriously positing that source has any place here? Get out, shitposter.

>>135692885
>positing
lmao youre so flustered you cant even spell "posting" anymore

dont worry, our special friends will come for you soon. it'll all be over in six minutes :)

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look who finally came out of his room
tell us all about that next big game you're always working on

>>135693153
MMO pong.

>>135693153
w-well see in my game White Supremacist Simulator 2016 you curb stomp minorities and

>>135693075
>it's one guy! it's all one guy! waaaahhh

No, Blake, it's everyone. Everyone is tired of your shit. What you do is not game dev and doesn't belong here or anywhere. Honk Honk :)

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>>135692553
I don't like widescreen though. How about this though? Dragging boxes with 600 frames per second.
Enginedevs have it the best, can't beat all my gameplay Unityfags.

>>135692667
>>135692667
let me explain this.
you CAN make games with source, but the engine itself is so bad for straightforward game development so most of the people who use it usually comes from the modding community.

now you could argue that source modding communities are somewhat dead at this point, but you can still make games from so called "mods", but its unlikely.
the shitpile that is garry's mod is a full game and you can purchase it on steam

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>mfw there is a person with nothing better to do than come in here at the same time every day to spam the exact same bullshit

Friendly reminder to everyone to not respond to obvious drama posts
Don't give him your (You)'s
Just report them and hopefully we'll see a lot of deleted posts again like the last two threads
Instead let's have a comfy agdg discussion thread

>>135693153
google rotatevania

>>135693389
well, his game did get kicked off steam. I would probably lose motivation to keep working on my game if that happened as well

>>135693260
Source is literally not game dev. There are no valid games made with it. There never have been, and never will be.

lol if you think anyone cares

>>135693389
>>135693552
>mfw you are talking about this shit
Fuck off.

Ignore namefag drama, report namefag drama. Post progress, respond to progress.

>>135693260
>garry's mod
lmao you're really grasping at straws now, aren't you?

four minutes :)

>>135693249
Wow, you're drawing two whole squares, and you still get 600fps? That's amazing.

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>>135679108

>>135693701
Your praise makes me so proud.

>>135693739
i miss lrsp

>>135693739
>reposting year old shit

>>135693818
Me too.
His progress was fun before Stella and friends blew up the general to oblivion.

>>135693675
Where is your game?

>>135693818
>>135693872
I haven't been here for a while, what happened to him?

>>135693829
all my decade old shit is on the other computer

>>135693872
August 2015. That's where the general truly went to irredeemable shit.

>>135694019
Whenever he'd post or get mentioned, the thread would get spammed with WHY IS THIS ALLOWED/I DON'T WANT MY GAME ASSOCIATED WITH THIS/and then more passive aggressive comments that would derail into arguments.
Eventually the jannies/mods would prune his posts so he moved to 8c. Not sure what he's up to now.
>>135694117
Pretty much when Blockhead/Orc-Dev/Archer-dev/ and many others left.

>>135694019
m*t*d*n kept wigging out and reporting it so the dev got banned and moved to 8ch instead of dealing with constant bans here

same story for a lot of devs from about a year ago, actually

>>135694202
>Pretty much when Blockhead/Orc-Dev/Archer-dev/ and many others left.
It's pretty much when mothdan arrived and would start his 8 hour sessions of badgering people over whatever triggered him that day.

>>135694117
why dont we just create a new agdg website with more features and actual modding? agdg2 went to shit for obvious reasons, we can do better

>>135694365
Webdev is not game dev, Blake.

>>135694365
>more features
Like what? Add too much, and suddenly you're just competing with NeoGaf and the like. I'm not saying any particular website other than here is good or bad, but it's pointless to copy any of them when they already work fine.

Honestly, /agdg/'s only real good feature unique to it is its high speed; for anonymity, there's other chans with fewer psychotic shitposters, if you want to track progress, there's people who use itch.io or post frequently on neogaf or reddit or whatever...

>>135694513
Steamchat has convened and decided to mail you another set of bombs. Don't go to school on monday, either.

>>135694513
Gamedev, of course.

>>135694513
Source

>>135694513
anime

>>135694537
mostly the mods here just need to try a bit fucking harder.

>>135694202
>>135694220
>>135694330
the mentally ill ruin everything

>>135694537
look, if you know a thing or two about the internet you can find a replacement for agdg in 10 mins and bring everyone with you, technically it can be done, and it can be done quite well.
but lets speak about the real problem, you can't imagine yourself not being here, and afraid to change route

>>135694931
Pretty much.
Self-moderation is one extension install away and people still refuse to use it.

>everyone should move because of one danny

>>135694932
The problem is that /agdg/ is only useful for its high post rate, which you can't replicate easily.

Not that it's a very big problem, because just like we're both saying, a cursory glance around will show you plenty of other places to go that are free of psychotic shitposting and aggressive memery, with plenty of progress to look at and all the "Nice!'s you can handle.

>>135695029
agdg is useful because out of every hundred feedback posts you get a feedback post which helps your game

>>135695029
>The problem is that /agdg/ is only useful for its high post rate
Actually I kind of feel like this idea is part of the problem.

But I've never enjoyed fast post rates for the sake of being fast. I'd much rather cut the cruft and have something slower with better quality.

>>135695018
the mentally ill cannot be reasoned with, only abandoned as the toxic waste they are

>>135695029
I genuinely like the majority of posters here though
It's literally 2-3 individuals that make it shit and they have demonstrated that they WILL NOT LEAVE

>finally get everything working and semi-right again
>Switch to my actual project and suddenly undefines again despite link order being /apparently/ right.
What did I do to cause this much inconvenience.

>>135695169
>*tips fedora*

>>135695029
its a fucking imageboard dude
and you have captcha and word filtering on top of that
with all the programmers in this general, you wanna tell me there is absolutely no way in hell agdg is gonna be cloned and improve upon itself?
i mean fuck, people have made entire communities from nothing, just look at the early days of every imageboard or forum

>>135695303
Rotatedev already tried it

>>135695303
people have tried it and it's proved to be an unnecessary endeavour when plenty of alternatives already exist

it's not like actual devs don't flee this place all the time

i'm only still here because it's funny, but fuck posting progress itt. I do that elsewhere and have irl friends to discuss dev with

>I post in my hugbox

>>135695303
The thing is, trying to move 4chan's userbase is nearly impossible unless the new thing is fucking Eden.
8c only managed to move a few thousand for three of the fastest boards.

People hate change.

>>135687735
Are you constantly pausing or something? Looks weird with the trails sometimes not disappearing even though stuff is happening...

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>>135695418
>i'm only still here because it's funny, but fuck posting progress itt. I do that elsewhere and have irl friends to discuss dev with
this desu

>>135695487
that's what im saying, we don't move because we hate changes not because its impossible

We could migrate to 420chan, the kind of disruptive behavior that cripples this general wouldn't be tolerated there.

Two problems though: they have no catalog for their boards so finding a thread can be a hassle, and 4channers would probably bump every 30 seconds despite that /vg/ there is slow as molasses. The slow part helps for finding a thread, I'd probably just keep it open.

They have per-board IDs sort-of. They wear off after some amount of hours, and they're in the form of a random name which can confuse people who are dumb.

>>135695549
>>135695418
>tfw no irl friends
>tfw no friends

Will you guys be my friends?

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>>135695591
no one said it was impossible, just that it's not worth doing

if you wanna do it, go do it then, jeez

>>135695487
I dont think so, I would move without a care if the new thing had all the convenient features of 4chanx and onee-chan. The only reason agdg2 failed was because it was obviously rotates attempt to make a community about/around himself and everyone knows that hes a narcissistic little shit. If somebody anonymous made an image board with good features for gamedev I would go there.

>>135695303
can agdg be cloned:
yes, but you will lose 75% of the posters
look at all the dead chans for proof
the most active of these (crippleretardchan) has a new post maybe every 3 hours and the entire site is fundamentally broken
can agdg be improved:
what are you proposing?
a means to ban people? that won't help, look what happens when that's attempted here
non-anonymous? watch while that 25% you managed to lure over suddenly changes to less than 1%

just face it, this is what we have and we should all just ignore the drama posters and stop replying to them

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>>135695616
yea sure

>>135695605
A constant flow of new people is important to AGDG continuing to exist. You might not notice it without looking at the lists of games being devved here, but we have a pretty high churn.

>>135695605
http://boards.420chan.org/vg/res/663663.php

Oh look, there's already something in existence. One could "organically" suggest an amateur gamedev thread, I bet people would be into it.

Just saying.

>>135695605
The only solution is to just add to this general via positive posts and progress.
And completely ignoring and reporting blatant shitposts.

I don't know why /a/ and /jp/ are the only boards who can grasp self-moderation.

>>135695723
>high churn

you mean high dead game rate

>>135695709
This is a turning point in my life, I just know it.

>>135695797
Yes that's literally what I mean.

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>>135695723
>high churn
>a good thing
Bro, you're talking about people coming here, finding the environment toxic, and then leaving, or giving up.

"Churn" what.

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>>135695616
No. You're probably a schizophrenic retard who will end up harassing me constantly over a bad dream you had during a manic episode.

>>135695758
>/a/ and /jp/ are the only boards who can grasp self-moderation.
Gut reaction says "higher average IQ"

How does one deal with having what they think is an original idea only to see something extremely similar deep into the project?

>>135695660
>look at other chans
comeone dude, we all know that 4chan is just a high-tech prison with no guards, with all the security measures (and theres alot) no one monitors those shitposters and faggots that stir chaos.
i mean one time i posted "can woman be cucks" and got banned for 2 days.
so there is rules but you only enforce them when you want to for the sake of "anonymity" which is bullshit, anyone who knows about web development will tell you that its a meme and you can easily make a secure site

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>>135695729
>someone in that thread is literally advocating using Source

>>135696009
Here's betting the similarity is superficial and you're worrying over nothing.

>>135696032
>>135695729
Holy fuck you weren't kidding. What a shithole.

>>135696020
so you think the cure is to have more active moderation?
then use the report feature of this site and stop trying to split an already broken community into even smaller bits of shit
solution is to ignore drama, not reply to drama and to report obvious shitters

>>135696198
no im saying remove all the bullshit security measures that only slow down posting and have human factor when it comes to monitoring posts

>>135695729
>I actually planned on making a companion for New Vegas that was based off one of the mining carts and it would be a fully voiced ghetto rapper from the 90's.

>but I took an arrow to the knee and never made it

this really is the best place we have isn't it?

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Hey, aspiring music guy here. Are there any FAQs about what to do to get your stuff out there, licensing, etc.? How to get started, per se.

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>>135696032
>>135696191
>Unity, Unreal or Source.
>Source would be the least versatile but I could make stuff for a lot of games I currently play. I have a feeling that will be the most user friendly of the bunch.
>I'm only really interested in level design at this point

>>135696032
>>135696191
>>135696307
Fair, but also they will never, ever, EVER deal with the kind of shit that occurs here almost daily, for the past 6+ months.

>>135695729
>One could "organically" suggest an amateur gamedev thread
hueh I laughed

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>>135696282
what security features are you always banging on about lad?

>tfw source is a perfectly fine engine to dev in
>but it's reached critical meme, and very few people used it to begin with
>retards will continue to act like it's the worst thing ever and newfags will actually believe them

It's not even that great, which means people getting turned away from it isn't even that bad, but I just can't stand the injustice of it.

I see this pattern all the time, why do faglords do this shit?

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fuck me I just wrote a long as fuck post with all my progress and coming up features but clicked on a link and it's gone so here's a picture of the updated cathedral. Not final but better.

>>135696378
It's not shit, it's that everyone is sick of YOU specifically. If everywhere you go smells like shit, it's time to look under your own shoes. Start at the root and keep digging.

>>135696378
Honestly, I'm too used to FASTCHAN to ever move to a /po/-rate board.
I'll keep 'till this shitposting trend fades like all the others.
>>135696348
1. Stop using the step sequencer.
2.Learn theory or musicdev will be hell, trust me.
3.Fl Guru

>FROG BLAST THE VENT CORE
>You are attempting to post a blocked word or phrase.

wut

>>135696398
cooldown of posts,captcha,and wordfiltering slows down posting tremendously

look and behold the quality of posts is lower every time because no machine can make the difference

>>135696414
>tfw source is a perfectly fine engine to dev in
Of course it is, dear. Remind us, where is your game? Oh wait, you never had one, all you had was some shitty garry's mod "maps"! Ha ha ha :)

>>135696430
Even if it is just because 3d is hard, I really like the 90's/Worlds.com A E S you have going.

>>135696472
>I'll keep 'till this shitposting trend fades like all the others.
How long have you been here? Why do people find GOTTAGOFAST threads to be an asset? Is it because they're lonely and they actually want a chatroom?

>>135696472
Whats wrong with the step sequencer and what to use instead?

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/agdg/, I went to sleep at 11:30 or so and now it's 3:30 and I can't sleep at all.

I was laying in bed for like 30 minutes trying to fall back asleep while working more through the story ideas I've been thinking of for my Paper Mario game the past week or so.
Since I still couldn't sleep after that, I decided to finally write out what I've thought of so far.
It's fairly vague and could still change drastically, but here's what I got so far for the main parts of the prologue:
http://pastebin.com/4S61AVyz

I know it's not code or gamedev, but with an RPG, story is a pretty important thing to develop as well, especially early on when deciding what will be needed to be coded in.
Any feedback on the ideas so far would be appreciated.

Also, the plan with the main villain (called ??? in the pastebin) is that they're going to be more of a small rogue's gallery/adventuring party on the same quest as Mario & co essentially. ??? will be getting their own partners and whatnot as the game goes on, often based on the bosses/minibosses encountered in the chapters.
So rather than the villain being a huge organization like Bowser's army, the X-nauts, or Bowser's hypnotized army under Bleck, it'll be more like if Bleck's crew went it alone (which they mostly did honestly).
??? will be kinda a second Mario that's against the player. Again, no idea what he/she will look/be like at all currently though.

http://boards.420chan.org/vg/res/664016.php

New thread.

>>135696484
There's a reason for those features though
>cooldown
so you're looking for a chat room?
if you can write a reply that fast within the space of another post then it's probably not worth reading, plus with cooldown you have time to proofread what you wrote
>captcha
Do you really want bots spamming the thread?
clicking pictures is fast as hell compared to old ones
>wordfiltering
you mean the less than 10 words or phrases for the entire site?

>>135696590
not that guy but fl's step sequencer only goes to the quarter note, which is simply not granular enough, and has no options for changing the attack, release or length of notes

>>135696609
Ive said it once and ill say it again, stop using Nintendo shit and have your own original characters.

Its like you are building a castle in a toiler bowl which will get flushed the moment you release the game.

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>>135696578
It's a curse and a gift. On one hand I don't have to spend a whole day making one asset but on the other it looks sub-par even if it has a style of its own. I kind of like it personally but I always try to improve a little.

Maybe in a couple of years my assets will look like gamecube worthy ones.

>>135696687
>sourcefam/blake trying to splinter /agdg/ again now that everyone is sick of his shit

This didn't work when you tried it last time, and it's not gonna work now. You really are mad, aren't you? Owned foreverially, by me!

>>135696585
Closer to a year after /vg/ got added.
And because discussion is steady, replying to day-old posts gets old once you never have to do it again.
>>135696590
It's too rigid unless you want to do minimal house and other repetitive genres.
Use Edison and the Playlist.

>>135696689
all of this can be solved by a moderator.
if you ask me 4chan is the most secure website that i know of, and since i started using they keep cramming more security features in it.
so i can literally dump porn here and no one is gonna ban me because there is no machine to do that, interesting right?

This has been going on so long I'm genuinely concerned that it will end in someone's murder.

>>135696708
>garbage Full Sail advice from resident reek yet again
Why haven't you gotten the message yet? No one wants your shitty "advice", nodev. Fuck off.

>>135696863
>literally dump porn here and no one is gonna ban me
blatantly untrue

>>135696708
>and has no options for changing the attack, release or length of notes
You can do that in FL via mixer channel plugins.
And note lengths can easily be changed in FL's piano roll which is what he's using.

>>135696708
>>135696819
Cheers. One more thing, ive tried making tracks a while ago and had this bug where a sound wouldnt stop playing and kept increasing intensity during the loop.

Is this a common problem with a quick fix?

>>135696609
>release super paper box game
>all characters and assets are grey boxes

>anonymous "fan" releases a mod to replace all the boxes with mario assets

ez katka

>>135697040
I thought he was just using the on/off quarter note buttons you get by default, not the piano roll. I haven't used FL in a longass time

>>135696938
No, it will just end in implosion. This kind of behavior isn't sustainable, there's too much of a sense of desperation. And it's not just one person, but there would typically be a reply to me "explaining" exactly what the problem is.

But time has this way of passing on and the things you spend your time on collect and collect, at the cost of other things. And sooner or later you can't escape being face-to-face with how you've spent your life.

>save system needs variables to be public
>decide to refactor hundreds of classes to make their fields full properties
code snippets are awesome

>>135697050
>where a sound wouldnt stop playing and kept increasing intensity during the loop.
Accidentally turn on the select tool and forget to take it off?

>>135696785
I know, and I've been worrying about that on and off for the past two weeks.
Fact of the matter is, I won't know until I try.

>Nintendo sent C&D to that 2D Pokemon fighting game years ago
>Never C&D'd any Mario Rom hacks that directly used their stuff.
>C&D'd the guy who made Mario 64's first world in Unreal fairly recently
>Never C&D'd stuff like Paper Mario 3D Land or half the shit on the Mario Fan Game Forum.
>Apparently haven't C&D'd Mother 4 yet.

Nintendo seems REALLY uneven with their C&Ds.
However, I think part of the reason things like Mother 4 and Epic Paper Mario haven't gotten C&Ds is because they haven't released any downloads. They seem to be aiming to get the game finished, then post it online for free.
Once it's up like that, Nintendo can send a C&D, but it won't stop the files from spreading.
I think that should work. Basically don't give them any solid case until it's too late.

>>135697146
This is it. He's really triggered now!

>>135696472
Thanks. I'm classically trained and can play multiple instruments, so actual composition is nothing, but I have no idea about publishing and the likes. >>135697040 pretty much FL is what i learned and I'm too lazy to learn something else

>>135697280

>>135697087