/ptg/ - Pokken Tournament General

How is Sceptile?

>>135676345
shit, just use braixen

>>135676248

>amino

I'm curious, was that a typo that carried over or that's just another way to say amiibo? I'm certain I didn't type that when making the original text for this general...well don't mind me carry on

>>135676248
Hey OP, add the FAQ next time
http://pastebin.com/5aUvHT7j

Why is the thread so dead?

>>135676806
Too busy playing the game. The short timers between matches stops people being able to post

>>135676806
Too busy curb stomping little kids and japs

and japanese little kids

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So how are you all progressing?
currently on blue league, but i'm mostly practicing and figuring out sceptile's combos

Fuck, Pikador is really fun.

This isn't something that belongs in /vp/?

What's the opinion on Sceptile? I can't really decide on how to play him, but I love him all the same. Only pokemon I've played so far.

>>135677105
Same thing except with Pikachu, fought a few good sceptiles online and he's scary as shit

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>Look at how cute Lucarios paws are

jesus christ why
literal furrybait comment

>>135677105
Just finished Blue League with Weavile
He's pretty fun

So, how do you get "good" at this game? I'm enjoying it and I love Machamp, but it doesn't seem like there would be a lot of effort required to play with skill.

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>>135677105
Beaten the 4th league but my online's dead, so I'm perfecting my Chandelure.

Are the controls laggy on Pro Controller or is it just my TV?

I play other fighting games on it and never had a noticeable issue until playing this game.

>>135677268
Because every furry in existence thinks "oh hey, a blue dogish thing, I want to fuck it", same thing with braix. Why this shit instead of Nia

>>135677803
it's your TV

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>activate electrode at arbitrary moment
>opponent blocks
>run up for free grab

Has Zero and Justin Wong gotten their hands on the game yet?

Anyone have a strategy to assigning their level up points?

Anywhere to see combo lists? Trying to figure out some combos for Braixen.

>>135678351
He was at the tourney yesterday, won first place

>>135678351
JWong did and won the pre-release tourney.

>>135678351
Zero has, already trying to tierwhore

>>135678418
Watching Nario's stream, someone said Shofu destroyed Zero.

>Twitchplayspokemon's Braixen beat a Blaziken online

ayy

I want to fuck a Braixen

>>135677708

I think the biggest thing is just gonna be being able to read what your opponet is gonna do and punish it, or just bait the counter moves that everyone is in love with online and punish.

Pikachu Libre

Unique skill: when her burst meter is full and she initiates a phase change (only with certain moves?) she enters a powered up state where her moves gain extra properties; for example she can paralyze with her standard yyyy combo.

yyy down A for damage buff
forward xx forward y back A for speed debuff
yyyy down A in burst mode

>>135678452

>goes straight for Weavile after it doing so well in the tournament

I knew I was going to deal with accusations of being a tierwhore by playing Weavile, but I don't want to be associated with ZeRo because he decides to main Weavile if he picks up Pokken

>>135678452
tiers r4 queers
use whatever poke you like, who cares

>>135678663
Yeah, the command grabs give Libre extra stuff on her moves. I think her up stance might do something too but I don't think so.

>>135679010
Doesn't matter. He won't get far in this game.

Who should I main?

>>135679010
>>135679338
ZeRo is a tierwhore in every game he plays, honestly this isn't surprising to me. I was going to play Gengar and Pikalibre whether they were bad or good anyways, not because they were good. ZeRo only wants to play the best character in the game

>>135679696
What kind of playstyle do you like?

So I've never actually played a fighting game before and feel like I need to be serious to get good at this. What do I need to know?

Im in love with Chandelure but in the duel phase, if they get to close, I cant do nothing, except that move that make you lose stats, any suggestions?

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>mfw Lucario's 2x
Not only does it feel satisfying as fuck to land (leg sweep/hard knockdown), it's safe on Counter too!

>>135680308
Use everything in your moveset. Never fall back on a single move consistently.
It all has a purpose.

>>135680308
Do the tutorial, all of it.

>Fucking EB games had the game but not the controller in stock
>Have to use the gamepad
FUCK EB GAME

I wish grabs weren't so huge in this game.

Pika shouldn't have a giant grab.

>>135680649
Honestly the gamepad isn't that bad, it's comfortable to hold and you can play while taking a shit, that's all that matters

I play Ness in sm4sh
I don't play real fighting games
Who should I play as here

>>135680348
Wall out the enemy with will'o'wisp and try to inflict attack and defence down.

The tip of down+y has a sweetspot that you can combo into hex, which by itself does 240 damage on enemies with 2 negative statuses on them.

Use midair r for mixups.

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Post the best 'mon, Machamp.

>Start up game
>"PRESS +"
>Press A instead
>It still works
Shit game

>>135680847
when I think ness the first pokemon that comes to mind is braixen

Anyone else getting some pretty bad lag online?

>>135680798
>spams at you from a mile away
>okay i better sheild
>grabs at you from a mile away
i fucking hate pikachu

>>135680798
weavile's grab is fucking miniscule, I feel like it never hits when it totally should.

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>Yfw you make a 1HP comeback

Um how do I do amiibo stuff?

>>135681564
When on the map/menu, it'll have the amiibo icon in the bottom right. Just tap them to the gamepad. You can only use 5 a day though.

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>Maximilian trolling the fuck out of his 12,000 twitch viewers by poking fun at IGN's review and and that division article by acting like a retard who can't understand the controls or menus and about how non-progressive and violent the game is

anyways, was all the weavile and chandelure tech found last thread added to the pastebin?

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>>135681557
>1HP left
>Opponent has full health
>Go burst mode
>Combo them into oblivion
>Mfw

Sceptile is just the fucking best

>>135681035
Why's that?

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>>135681557
>Hit a burst attack
>Opponent still has 1HP

>gengar used shadow punch
>gengar used shadow ball
>gengar used shadow punch
>gengar used shadow ball
>gengar used shadow punch
>gengar used shadow ball
>gengar used shadow punch
>gengar used shadow ball
>gengar used shadow punch
>gengar used shadow ball

>gengars burst attack goes through your sheild, fuck you

>>135682106
Nice balance of ranged and melee.

Is it me or do counter attacks feel a bit too strong?

>>135682353

Can you jump over it?

who is the least played character

>tfw bad at memorizing combos
what character has the easiest ones?

>>135682773
weavile is mostly just spacing and then using certain specials and simple strings from the looks of things

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>>135681557

>>135682928
ok i'll look into weavile
i've just been projectile spamming chandelure until now because i'm shit

>>135682728
Maybe, but I'm used to being able to sheild them. Any time I lose is bullshit :~)

>>135683086

Well Mewtwo's burst move is supposed to be a grab so jumping would be advised

How do I use Minimize as Chandelure? It says to charge and release A, but that input just gives me charged Will-O-Wisp.

>>135683374
Charge it for a reaaally long time.

>gay mechanics don't allow juggling and combos to exceed double digits
it;'s shit

>>135683374
Keep your thumb on the button longer until Chandy slightly glows orange.

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Delphox was a mistake.

>>135681783
Max is actually playing Pokken?

Would you guys say this game has real competetive depth/potential or is it on par with shit like those Naruto and DBZ games

>>135683584
Yes
he sucks

>>135683649
This is news because...?

>>135683649
He's just practicing right now. But he just said he's considering going into sub mode for w/e reason.

I heard that when you do LAN, you get all the unlocks, is that true? Is it only for one of the lan methods, or all of them? Do they stay unlocked?

>>135683523
>>135683447
Tried both those things and I'm not getting results. How does the input differ from a normal charged Will-O-Wisp?

>>135683859
If that's the case, he's probably going to drop Pokken faster than Splatoon.

>braixens level 50 bonus title is rapid shooter

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>>135683893
shit, forgot image

>>135683926
Don't let go of the button, keep holding it after the attack is finished.

>>135683859
>was about to tell how to change phases in training
>sub mode

So whats going on with Pokken Controllers? Was a little interested in getting one depending on how I find either my Wii U Pro or regular Classic

>>135684080
Was he getting spammed by Pokemon fans?

>>135684078
Ah, thanks for the clarification.

play the tutorials you cunts they take less than 20 minutes

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>>135684263
>mfw didn't play any tutorials and am sitting comfy at an 80% online win-rate across player/ranked

>>135684263
I did but I am still a bit lost.
Probably just got to start memorising all the move I can use

>>135684185
Yeah that was the reasoning

>>135684376
Im just talking about the people who keep asking repeatetive basic questions in these threads

>Pokemon automatically gets up
>no teching
Back to the GameStop it goes

>>135684376
How would you say online is skill wise? From what I've seen most people are garbage, Nario is slaughtering people pretty easily and Shofu is ranked high. Shadypenguin seems to be doing okay too.

fucking machamp damage

>>135684074
>>135683893

bumping

also, is there a way to instant fill up my support and burst gauge in free training?

>>135684839
I saw a request last thread for somebody to make a webm of him doing submission against shadow mewtwo while the machamp is at low health for rage to trigger, while under an attack boost from a support, after using bulk up and going into burst mode so it does like 60%.

>>135685032

Wait you do more damage when your health is low?

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>play pikalibre
>done about 10 matches online and win all but 1
>next match I get a pikalibre ditto
>fucking 47 matches, 100% rate
"I'm going to lose, hard"
>beat him first round but lose the next
>holy fuck I might actually win this
>he uses synergy like a dumbass
>blocked, proceed to rape his ass with a 30% combo, do another 20% with synergy
>mfw

>>135685032
Press -.

>>135685165
yep

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>>135678351
jwong was busy getting his hands on lolis instead

I hope this game gets consistent cosmetic updates

>>135685205
From what I've seen, and maybe I need to play more...it just seems like you either:

Bait counters --> grab
Air attack ---> combos

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>>135685315
Jesus christ, what the fuck? Jwong looks a little too into that.

Is this game laggy for Pro Controllers or is it my TV?

I've played fighting games on it and never saw any noticeable delay until playing this game. Might have to hook my Wii U up to the Asus monitor.

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>Doing pretty good with Blaziken
>Getting a lot more wins now after training a bit more and understanding the character and other characters
>Actually feeling pretty confident
>Get a mirror match
>Played a bunch of mirror matches before so this should be easy
>Mfw opponent does shit I've never even seen before
>Mfw opponent does some fucking new tech you've never even seen before
>Mfw he gets two perfects
I forgot that no matter what, never get confident

>Blaziken's super does 257 hits because that's it's dex number

Heh.

>Braixen can't use Light Screen in Field Phase
Life is suffering.

>>135685903
>Get a pretty high damage combo going
>Forget about the phases
>Fuck up in the Field Phase trying to do it

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>>135684794
People need to learn how to use their character's toolset more effectively.
And just learn what is safe on-block.
More people also need to take liberal advantage of the RPS system (Counter > Combo > Grab) instead of just using combo attacks constantly.

I see many Gardevoirs, Suicunes, etc. that are too hard-wired into playing as a "zoner", so they absolutely crumple when you get them in short-range trades. They completely ignore anything that's not a ranged attack.
Too many Machamps that expect to walk forwards and get free grabs.
Too many Fire Chickens that spam their ebin airdash shit and don't expect the enemy to catch on and punish their ass once they land.
And so on and so forth.

Too many Pikachus being fucking niggers with their borderline un-punishable Field Ranged. reeeeeeeeee

>>135685753
Thought I was the only one. Glad to know I'm not going crazy.

>>135685526
In the first phase spam the shit out of aerial projectile and aerial homing shit, second phase just camp in block and wait for them to do something stupid, most of the time they do

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Pokken has no fucking right being as amazing as it is.

I expected some cheap, easy cash grab. With fan service and button-mashing.

I got a game of Hard Reads and Harder Dicks, holy shit.

>>135686051
>I see many Gardevoirs, Suicunes, etc. that are too hard-wired into playing as a "zoner", so they absolutely crumple when you get them in short-range trades
Isn't it great? You get to punch Gardfags in the face FOR FREE

>want to git gud with weavile
>im a fucking scrub and train combos and shit but always immediately forget them when playing against another player

>>135686051
Like I was saying here >>135685526

It doesn't seem like the more experienced players do anything flash either. Like you said, it just seems like countering into combos or air attacking into combos. Maybe I just need to get the game for myself, but I'm tight on funds.

>People are already playing online
Like fuck you should at least finish that leage thing so you get a good grip on you character and its moves

>>135686194
I know that exact feeling
Go out of your way to master this one combo in the training mode
And then you just end up fucking it up

>>135686275
*countering into combos or grabbing*

>>135686307
ez wins ez life

>>135686194
I dont know this feel

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who wants to play
pass is SR388

>>135686162
I know isn't if great? Wii u finally got something that can be as competitive as other consoles. The sales might be saved
>inb4 nx isn't released until 2019 because pokken 2 and 3

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>>135677105
Making my way through Blue.

Sceptile's my favorite and then Weavile right after.

I cannot understand Blaziken for the life of me.

I think Garchomp seems fun but I have yet to test him out.

>play online
>get mad and lose motivation
>okay, i'll take a break. i'll do better later
>exact same situation happens, get bodied by japs over and over

Man, what's the point?

>>135686614
At this juncture, the only two things that increased and are keeping the WiiU alive is Pokken and Splatoon
Which are two competitive games. But Pokken'll give it more notability due to EVO

How do I get 5 stars?

What purpose does the field mode serve? It kinda seems like you run around with long ranged moves until you hit and get in the combo mode.

>>135686770
I played shadow mewtwo for the first time and got 5 stars on literally everything but bonus, whatever the fuck bonus is.

>>135686751
>get bodied by japs
Here's something to always remember
If you end up against a Jap, just quit. Seriously
they've been playing the game WAAAAAAAAY longer than you have

>>135683584
>>135683649
>>135683859
>>135683970
>>135684080
he's totally into it now

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>>135686751
>To afraid to play online because I am scared this will happen to me
>Staying comfy in the ferum league for as long as possible

whats this gay stat level up thing
Does it effect online

>>135686891
>rage quitting
>not taking the L to learn and improve

>>135686307
I've been alternating between the two. Definitely seeing an improvement in my play. What weirds me out though is whenever I see someone on regular online play spamming the same old projectile shit I can punish them pretty well, but when it comes to ranked I just can't do shit against characters like Suicune or Braixen.

>>135686891
Yeah, Shofu who was number 1 in the leaders boards got decimated by a Japanese player, without doing much damage to them at all.

>>135686949
No

how's the online generally? how does it compensate for shitty connections?
are laggy [insert third world nationality] an issue?

>>135686929
Yeah. He's loving it

>>135686760
>splatoon
>competitive
You also didn't even mention smash 4, it's gotten more entrants at regionals than brawl did at Apex 2014 and plenty of people bought a Wii u just for that
There's also Mario kart but that's not competitive

>>135686929
>>135683584
>>135683649
>>135683859
>>135683970
>>135684080
Fuck he's finding insane blaziken tech

in duel phase he has a 180~ damage combo that he can then follow up with brave bird that will hit them as they get up, and if they wake up with a counter, the sheer number of hits knocks them out of the counter

probably gonna rip this whole training section from the VOD

>>135686307
>finish the league to get a good grip on your character
>needing ~200 battles to get a grip on a character
only reason I'm gonna finish that fucking awful grindfest one day is to get Shadow Mewtwo, the last Assist and more trainer items

Also AI are easy to exploit and get bad habits from and you WILL find yourself doing just that, either consciously or subconsciously.

how 2 git gud anons
>hit Training mode for 5 minutes so you at least know what your character's X/Y attacks are
>hit up Player Match until you're comfortable
>finally take it on Ranked
extra protip: don't give a FUCK about your win ratio

>>135686929
I'm on the fence with it. I bought SFV when it came out, but really only play it with friends because online is garbage. Spent $80 on FE too recently. The game looks extremely fun, but dat lack of cash.

>>135687239
actually it's 197 damage before the brave bird

>>135687270
>Training in 5 minutes suddenly makes you aware of all your combos
Sure thing m8.
I am not playing training matches until I at least no what I am doing. I still don't know shit.

>>135687567
>combos
Like every character has a basic one-button combo that knocks down the foe.
That's all you need to start with.
Work in other stuff as you go along.
This game isn't combo-heavy.

Why only 8 directions? this is bugging the shit out of me

>>135687905
Yeah but sometimes I don't even press the right button. I can't remember which back button and charge thing does what. Like the basic combo moves, not technical stuff. I am not fighting anyone unless I get those basics down.

Honest question here.
How many of you are guys and picked a qt girl avatar?

>>135687239
Him complaining about how Burst is pretty much useless for comboing got me thinking
If they were to remove the damage scaling, how brocken would Burst be?

Top Tier
Weavile
R. Pika
Sceptile
Shadow Mewtwo

High Tier
Machamp

Mid Tier
Everyone else

Shit Tier
Gardevoir

>Styling on NPCs in Ferrum League, halfway through Red without a single loss
>Figure I'll try my hand at online
>wrecked twice in a row by two different japs and a third one perfects me on his second round

guess im not playing this game online either, then.

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There's so much fucking hidden nuance that the game doesn't tell you in the movelists or whatever.

>Lucha Pikachu's bodyslam paralyzes on counterhit so you get a free combo if you cancel into it after a blockstring and they try to do something

>Weavile's possible shenanigans by cancelling its dash attacks into throw / another dash attack / whatever just fucking mix them up man

>You can alter combos so that the first few hits of a super don't hit so the last cinematic hit does go through before phase shift ends the combo

>>135688249
>Implying Super Fightan Chicken isn't high tier
Though, I do agree

>>135686307
I'm just anxious to play against real people. I really don't know why I'm not just playing League first.

>>135688249
>R. Pika

Fuck, that's what I'm calling her now.

Is Gardevoir really that bad?

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>>135688069
Just make sure you take the plunge into online as soon as possible anon.
That's the only way to improve.

>>135688178
Yo.
>>135666975

>>135688249
>>135686853
Is shadow mewtwo that good? he seems worse then norrmal mewtwo to me

Nia's armpits! Cumming on Nia's feet!

>>135688473
Shadow Mewtwo is really easy, but not that good. He's a glass cannon. He literally uses his HP for attacks.

Fucking Travis sounds like ass

>>135688249
I think both pikas are top tier but whatever

if characters have combos that will literally always leave you stunned for AT LEAST 3 seconds where they can just deal as much damage as they want then whats the fucking point of the combos existing
just fucking buff the first hit to do 300 danage

Braixen is such a fraudulent ass character holy shit. Fuck this character.

>>135688683
Pika Libre is probably better than default Pika, but default Pika is fucking terrifying in his own right.

>pikachu gets knockdown
>uses thunder, forcing you to block

Shit's spooky. Pikachu has such a good pressure game. Nuzzle is really useful for that shit too.

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>>135688625
that's what i thought too

>>135688850
>mfw fire blast

>>135688902
Pika libre doesn't have the same tools to pressure in the first phase, that's where I think regular pika actually wins. Pika libre is faster in the second phase and wins there

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>Flawless wins throughout D rank ferum league
>Get wrecked by Shadow Mewtwo CPU

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>>135689103
I think thats an auto-lose match because I ended up kicking his ass a bit and then the battle just "ended" and said I lost.

>>135688249
Sceptile is high tier in your speculation ? Ugh, I didn't want this.

Yo guys, I made a thread on /v/ if you could answer some questions for me >>>/v/331280029

>>135689023
how the FUCK do you deal with her bullshit pressure?

>fuck up ONCE
>get put into duel phase by the magic bolt thing 600000 feet away
>have to get in against this SHMUP bs

>get in, get grabbed ONCE
>reset to neutral immediately

>>135688902
Can't you just counter through thunder?

>>135689093
True. Libre's ranged options kind of suck balls in Field Phase.

That aerial X attack is really fucking good though, as is the airdash/walljump shit. I should really use that more. Honestly, once Pikador gets in and starts getting command grab buffs/enhancements, she's in a really good spot.

Fuck Gardevoir.

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>>135689103
>do fairly well against shadow mewtwo
>got him to 40~ health
>go to attack him again
>counters me for all my health
>lose the match
rigged bullshit

>>135688850
What do you mean? Are you talking about her fire blast attack? Shit's amazing with a sunny day powerup.

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What is your Nia wearing? Mine has this because armpits

>>135689432
get in her face and stay there as much as you can

>>135689432
Just get in her face, Anon
Get in
And just shove you dick in there
Right in there

>blaziken knocks you down
>dashes into you 4 times until youre against the wall once you get up
>fucks you
why is this allowed?

>>135689442
I forgot about that. Either way, Pika puts on pressure and that situation can benefit him as well, I'd imagine. It might be range dependent or something.

>Pika sees you're doing counter/baits it out after the first time
>Nuzzle

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>i'm too shitty to deal with projectile spam

Chandelure has a grab across the fucking stage!

does machamp's neutral enhanced A go through projectiles or something because jesus is he zangief or something i cant do gorilla damage if i cant get in

>>135689485
Pikalibre is disgusting once she gets combos going, if she goes into dual phase with the advantage it's probably over.

Best types
Speed: pikalibre/weavile
Normal: Pikachu
Power: Garchomp/Machamp
Technical: Gengar

This is going to be interesting

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>Lost first online match ever
NEVER PLAYING AGAIN
FUCK JAPS

>>135689432
>be pikalibre
>just agility/quick attack through that shit
Damn it feels good to be a lucha

>>135689832
Chandrlure has a long range grab but no close range grab

It's free to counters up close

>>135689998
Pikalibre can Quick Attack through Fire Blast? Holy fuck that's going to work wonders for me.

>>135690108
>but no close range grab
I definitely got grabbed at close range.

Regardless my problem is I'm too shit to handle projectile spam from Chandelure and Gardevoir.

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>>135690108
That's a relief to hear. So I just have to stay in Chandelure's face then?

>>135690202
>I definitely got grabbed at close range.
Oh. Nvmd.

>>135688249
>machamp in anything above garbage of garbage tier
Im not seein it

>>135690415
It's easy to handle, just play a pikachu

>face a sceptile
>oh, is he like an aggro fighter
>he's a fucking zoner
>recovers HP from everything

What the fuck?

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>>135688249
>rainbow pika

>>135688358
It doesn't paralyze on counterhit, it paralyzes in her powered up mode. She sparks up when she gets a quick attack or grab for a phase change

>Max blindly went into matchmaking
Time for some shit

>>135691152
>blindly

he's been in training for 3 hours, what the hell did he miss?

>>135691383
Everything apparently. He's getting bodied left and right

why would you play casuals then disconnect after the first round?

>>135691410
That charizard raped his shield and he didn't even think to counter until after he died

>>135691410
>He's fighting R Pika now
TIME FOR SOME SHIT

>>135689586
Sporty Nia is best Nia.

>>135691575
He should've really kept practicing
Though, this is hilarous

Heh, Max is getting bodied online atm.

>>135691632
>Weavile now
HEHEHEHAHAHAHAHA

>Perfect 2 rounds
>Still don't get 5 stars
What the fuck

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>mfw Garchimps try to use Dig and I block/counter every time

>>135691383
He has been doing combos for so long it seems like he forgot the core mechanics

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>>135691912
>Garchomps using the actual Dig attack
It does a ton of damage but its unsafe as shit, not to mention you can just block/counter it like you said

Better to just dig under projectiles and cancel it once you're close.

>>135691152
He's getting crushed

>>135692084
It's hilarious

if you lose to MAchamp you got out played straight up. just like losing to Zangief. he's pretty bad.

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Gengar is wacky as hell to fight, what the hell.

I don't even know what the fuck's going on against him.

>looked like he was gonna win
>bursts for some reason
>gets fucking dropped

This is great

>>135692472
Honest to god, this is entertaining as hell
>This Sceptile fight
As hell

>>135692472
At least he won round 2. Don't see him sticking with this game tbqh

>>135692595
>Braixen
OHHH BOY

what are your names if i come across you online

>>135692682
lol he won

>>135692682
A really bad braixen

>>135692682
>He won
Jesus Christ

>>135692728
AllBlue

Holy shit these stat boosts do fuck all

>>135692973
They're pretty much useless unless you dump 1 stat, I just dumped synergy on my Gengar and it's pretty decent

Are Pokemon stats a factor in online battles?

>>135693121
Only single player

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fuck gardevoir

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>>135693370
>Mfw destroyed three Gardevoir's in a row
Shit's satisfying

>>135693425
You like hearing her moans of pain anon?

>>135693578
No. I don't like Gard

why does charizards grab have a lingering hitbox why does charizards grab have a lingering hitbox why does charizards grab have a lingering hitbox why does charizards grab have a lingering hitbox why does charizards grab have a lingering hitbox why does charizards grab have a lingering hitbox why does charizards grab have a lingering hitbox why does charizards grab have a lingering hitbox

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>>135693679
get fucked by seismic toss
best husbandu

>>135693679
Same raisin why Seismic toss is legal
Because lube is 50% off at Macy's

Who /garchomp/ here?

I keep accidentally doing a follow up when I get a dude in the air and I dunno what I'm pressing.

Also how do I do the spinning buzzsaw in the air I see in videos?

>>135684074
Holy shit, my heart.
Before this game i hated Weavile now its the only thing outside Machamp i'll play.

>Max confused that people are tossing around counters
Maybe because THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO?

I'm not gonna have my copy in for another 5 days or so, how behind will I be in terms of getting into the state of online?

>>135694029
most people are just mashing and still figuring out the game, probably wont change that much in a few days

>>135694029
When you get it, dedicate a day to understanding the mechanics
You;ll get it in a couple hours, maybe half the day, but just dedicate a day to training
The game just came out, sure. And people are just learning about it.
But those Nippon players

>>135694079
then how is max getting fucking stomped so much

Is anyone having the same problem I am?

Sometimes after a fight my B button will randomly stop working in menus. It doesn't matter what controller I'm using, the pad and the pro both do it. I've never had this happen in any other game.

Every other button works fine and I can even enter another battle where B will still jump or hit Home and use the B button in the WiiU menu, but it doesn't do anything in the game menu. I can't exit the game mode, I have to turn the WiiU off if I want to do something else.

>>135694160
he is bitching about lag a lot.

Maybe he just has a shit connection

>>135694160
Because he walked blindly into matchmaking, ranked no less, and forgot everything about the core mechanics of the game
Translation: He spent 3 hours in training and forgot everything

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>>135694160
the people he is playing against has potato internet and hes suffering from it
also he is fucking trash and only knows like 30% of the game's mechanics

I'm actually surprised how well the netcode in is this game, I've played with people all the way to britbong from texas and it plays flawlessly, too bad it seems to not handle people's potato internet well

>>135694395
at least the lag is the this-is-your-chance-to-read-everything lag and not the haha-fuck-you-your-opponent-can-teleport lag

How do you unlock the ojou-sama hair? Beat Chroma League?

>>135694395
People with bad internet should not be allowed to play games online.

>>135694395
He's 2-11 and most of those loses weren't because of bad internet on the opponets part
He's just really bad and ignored basically everything in the tutorial

>>135694395
What is he not understanding mechanics wise? Watching him I can't pinpoint anything beyond not using counters and hitting people out of grabs enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKFKq54I7Sk

interview from a stream he pretty much just dropped into, apparently a smash tourney was doing some pokken exposition stuff and they thought they were just getting a random bamco rep to come in, when it was actually harada

>>135694580
Seriously, games should detect ping and ban anyone without a sufficiently good internet.

having to attack to beat grabs is tripping me up so hard

Okay
What the fuck
Why can I only do well with gardevoir

I'm about halfway through Blue and I'm already tired of the Ferrum League.

>>135694835
Because your a faggy projectile spammer

>>135694835
She is your pokesona anon.

Embrace her

>double perfect
>2 and a half defense stars

I wish it was actually possible to get 5 stars without doing the third round

>>135694924
I've done it on round games. No clue how those.

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>>135694874
lol

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>>135694924
In multiplayer the amount of stars you get seems to skyrocket, I guess streamrolling bots won't get you shit

>>135694835
Because you're a piece of shit Gardfag

Do all the non zoners have move that let the completely ignore the field phase? R Pikas spinning divekick that lets her fly across half the stage seems overpowered as fuck

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goddamn braixen dittos

she doesn't have the tools to deal with her own bullshit, if you're at max range for fire blast you might as well just drop the controller

So what would actually be the best Pokken community to scope out?
I'll probably stick with /vg/, but anyone know where the Japanese players gather on the net? I can partially into moon, so I might be able to dig up some existing technology because we're late to the party and let's not have the Japanese win both Pokken and VGC.

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Postin' history of trainers.
can't wait to beat chroma league

>>135695171
Did you fucking recreate Chie?

How on earth is the online connection so good, I'm watching a stream and not even using my ethernet cable and I'm not getting any lag whatsoever. Did Nintendo finally figure out how to online?

>>135695220
It's a Bamco thing, most Tekken games have great online too.

>tfw getting destroyed by the japs

>>135695220
It's fucking magic

Watching this streamer suck is making me feel better about being trash at this game

>>135694810
its some bullshit kusoge mechanics, theres no reason an attack should fuck me over on the last frame of m fucking grab

what the hell is this mickey mouse BS, why is oki a coin flip for me ON OFFENSE? WHY should i have the potential to lose most of my health on the opponents wakeup?

this game is pure ass beyond playing casually with friends, cant believe this garbo is on evo main stage

>>135695220
I'm just curious how the fuck street fighter v runs across the current best selling system and pc and takes minutes to find match, even at launch, and pokken is on the wii u and takes less than ten seconds.

>>135695357
Watching Max?
Yeah, it's a confident booster.
If you ever lose a match and you feel down, just tell yourself "At least I'm not as bad as Max!"

>>135695370
adapt and git gud scrublord, just because its different from your animefighter rehash #324342 doesn't make it kusoge

The 3d parts are the worst thing about this game, I wish they didn't exist.

They'd be better if you could combo and it wasn't just all, shoot the projectiles till you get a hit.

>>135695114
the one japanese guy who destroyed shofu with an untouchable suicuine has a blog and a twitter, you could ask him

https://twitter.com/pretz_suikun?lang=en
http://toru2suikun.blog.fc2.com/

maybe you can translate some of it

>Accidentally got distracted by the music and lost a match
Shit, the stage music's too good

>>135695560
play pikalibre and just completely skip the field mode whenever it switches

>>135695716
Which one? The music seems mediocre to me, for Pokemon standards

I wasn't expecting much out of this game, but I have to say it is pretty damn fun. I hope it's successful enough for a sequel.

Sceptile has:

>zoning tools
>aggro tools
>two command grabs, one being an air grab
>decent health, allowing both aggro or defensive playstyles

What kind of playstyle did they design this thing for? I'm not being salty about him or anything, but Sceptile is fucking weird to me. It's like two different people developed him and then they molded it together.

>>135695786
>mediocre
>Implying Magikarp festival isn't the hypest shit

>>135695553
i dont play garbage anime & i guarantee you wont see me in this either

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>mfw using Chandelure oki

>Blazikens high stance blocks projectiles

what, is that true? We need a fucking guide for all these little things, last thread people mentioned similar shit about weavile and chandelure

>>135679805
would you know what i meant if if I said crunchy but balanced?

>>135696079
Apparently both his stances block projectiles

>>135695841
He's the Falco of Pokken

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>Landing submission immediately after knocking the opponent into field phase

why is everyone calling wrestlechu "r. pika"

this is weird

>>135696632
r mika
r pika
both wrestlers

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>When you get into Dual Phase as R Pika

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>>135696632
it's a female pikachu
its a wrestler
what more do you need?

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Braixen main here. I need some practice against some good Chandelures. If any Chandelure mains want to fight, my VS code is 29380000.

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>Playing Ranked
>Apparently no one watched the touney
>Mfw countering Bursts with Bursts and winning
Shit's going to bite me in the ass when I get to a higher rank, ain't it?

I have to say, the OST for this game is pretty damn good.

>>135696881

There was a tourney stream?

Also by burst do you mean super? Or the powered up mode you go in from doing block+support?

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>try to super just as burst runs out

>>135696948
Who composed it anyway, I wanna check out more from them

>>135696989
Super. One of the things during the touney that was common was if your enemy uses their super, if you time it before it connects with your own super, you win the trade and your super hits
Also, there was a touney before the game released. Nintendo hosted. JWong was there

>>135696948
>Neos City
>Phos Volcano
>Majokarp Festival
It's so good
Speaking of maps, they should have maps of locations in the game
Like Bellsprowt Tower, Mt Silver, Mt Coronet, Cinnibar Mansion, etc.

Max starting to win but not liking the game. Not surprisingly.

>>135697387
It's because he's been getting so salty due to losing a ton that now that he's actually winning he hates it because, to him, it's not "earned"

Why did they make Braixen SO MOE?

>>135697501
Anon, you'd better calm yourself or you might end up in a place where the sun doesn't shine

>>135696842
Nevermind. I'll take anyone on. Same code.

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>>135697387
>only played one character
>judging the metagame based on beginner rank rounds
>hardly knows how to actually play the game
>calls it bad just for these reasons

>nairo gets shofu in ranked
>almost wins the first match, wins the second match, gets bodied the third match
God damn nairo is going to be godlike, especially now that online is a legitimate place to practicr

>>135697594
This. He's been playing a character that he doesn't understand against other characters he knows nothing about
And he forgot the triangle
And his 3 hours of training
He's a bad player calling a game bad because he's losing

>>135697597
Nairo is playing this? Is there a stream

>>135697597
Did he just randomly get him or did they set up to play each other?

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The game that blows up Max for the casual he is, is a Pokemon game.


This is the world we live in today.

I think I just got KOd at over half health by that throw.

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>>135697876
Do you want to know what makes it even more funny
Remember the touney? Remember how there was KIDS playing in that Touney
THEY PLAY BETTER THAN HIM AND THEY HAD LESS TIME

>>135697876
>>135698016
>>135697714
>>135697594
It's sad, max can be legitimately entertaining without being too obnoxious, I was really hoping he'd get into it, but yeah, he's dismissing it unfairly.

>>135697597
Why put shofu on a pedestal?

>>135698219
If he actually sat down and played it, practised, LEARNED THE FUCKING TRIANGLE, and payed attention to the Tutorial, he'd be having a better time
But at this juncture, he's just whining because he's bad. And instead of improving, or learning about the matups, or maybe SWITCHING CHARACTERS, he dismisses his failure as the games fault

>This Lucario
>209 battles
Jesus

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>check out Max cause everyone is saying he's getting bodied
>he's doing okay, but doesn't grasp basic game mechanics
>is upset that he can't combo all day and is winning even though it's literally the first day and everyone is trying to learn this new game
>doesn't even like Pokemon

And I thought I couldn't dislike this guy more. What an idiot.

>>135698450
just wondering what is the triangle?

>>135698592
It's in the tutorial and is a very important part of the game entire

>>135698592
Attacks beat grabs, grabs beat blocks/counters, counters beat attacks.

>>135698592
Grabs beats Counters. Counters beat Normals. Normals beat Grabs.

Why is he refusing to even try a different character? Hs he played a fighting game before?

>>135698480
His issue is that he comes from a fighting game background, which in theory should help him, but it caused him to get ahead of himself and now is thinking the game is shallow

>>135698674
youre so fucking new lol

>>135698480
He's only doing okay because he's getting a little bit better
And by a little bit I mean seriously, a smidgen
You missed his hilarious losing streak

>>135698674
Because apparently "He doesn't like Pokemon"
So due to that, he doesn't want to switch characters
So he's going to continue losing and continue to mine salt

why are any of you even fucking watching this joker
never heard of him but i checked him about because of the nonstop bitching and like
why is anyone watching him in the first place

>>135697597
What shofu was doing didn't even seem all that impressive. He just kinda ran around and usedlightning.

>there are people who give a shit about memeimilian

>>135698480
>complains about the way his character plays
>chat suggests trying different characters
>BAWWW I DON'T WANT TO

>>135698879
>>135698970
>"This game is triggering me so much"
He's the 4chan humor posterboy

>>135698741
The problem isn't that he's doing okay. It's that he's doing okay and thinks this is all there is to the game, even though he isn't even doing that well and is fighting low levels. Plus everything else I said above.

>max getting trashed by a pika libre called r.pika
kek

>>135699046
>Proceeds to get fucking bodies
>THIS GAME IS SO FUCKING BAD

>>135698480
>Max: I'm liking this game less the more I win in it
In other words
>I'm starting to win enough that I think I can bitch about it without being called out on being a shitter

>tfw DSP is better at this game than Max

HO
LY
SHITTTTT
0.01 WHAT

piss break tho braixbro

Holy shit Shadow Mewtwo has so little HP it sucks

>>135699090
That's the thing that makes it even more funny
This is low rank. this isn't no Elite Four Cynthia Green Champion stuff. This is Brock's Gym
He's struggling with Brock's Gym

>>135699168
Good games. Machamp's combos do so much damage. It was nice to play a good Machamp for once.

>>135699280
>>135699168
Actually, I have to go anyway. I got work tomorrow. Thanks for the games.

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>Hulk Hogan beats the fuck out of gawker
>Max getting blown up by Ladder Monsters
Holy fuck today is amazing.

Holy fuck Garchomp is so bullshit.
That fucking sand storm is ridiculous.