/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

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Rogue cards when?

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16/136

>>135650662
lookin bretty gud so far desu senpai

>>135650332
>>135650378
*roars*
why does this poor thing only roar when entering, where's his other noises?
also both legendaries i've gotten from tgt were fucking charges

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>make meme mage not expecting much
>go 5-0 with him
Oh well.

is Hafu an autist??

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>>135650762
Where the fuck did my pic go

>>135650662
I hope the whole expansion won't be "muh C'Thun".

>>135651075
16 cards anon. 16

>>135650901
that's basically just a tempo mage though without arcane blasts and flamecannons and with more secrets and conjurer instead of azure drakes

>>135650662
It's a bad joke so far.

>>135650901
>no ethereal arcanist
go all the way or don't go any of it

>>135650662
>3/5 neutral cthun support revealed
>2/9 class specific revealed

Unless one of the other 2 neutrals is god tier i dont see cthun decks being viable tbqh

And rest of the reveals are mostly not too great

I hope this doesnt turn out to be tgt 2.0

>>135651545
warrior is viable already for me

Why does people hitting my face when it's objectively wrong to do so trigger me so much? Even if I'm being handed wins it just pisses me off watching them be so fucking stupid.

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>Mojang didn't pay HS streamers to play Scrolls

it only occurred to me now that maybe that would've saved it

so I<m trying Druid and get destroyed by secret paladin and aggroshamans.

I thought Druid was the best deck right now?

>>135651183
Well apparently he works better for me than the regular tempo mage in the current meta.

>>135651415
I guess I could craft another one.

>>135651545
>Unless one of the other 2 neutrals is god tier i dont see cthun decks being viable tbqh
if all the neutral ones have good stats and give +1 or +2

Cthun will be at a minimum a 26/26

>>135650662
5-7 look viable and the rest are iffy right now. C'thun synergy looks good too but building a deck around a double timepiece of horror is bad.

>>135650662
mark my words this is going to happen to cthun
-literally in all matches except some wierd ctrl vs ctrl game, he is going to come out as 10/10 or 12/12 and not some 24.24 some people think and its going to be underwhelming as fuck

Anyone have a link to where a blue said majordomo was being buffed? Or was that a ruse

>>135651875
Secret pally matchup's supposed to be like 50/50, in my experience the druid wins more often

>>135652083
I would be pretty happy with a 10 mana 12/12 that doesn't discard my hand and only wipes the opponent's board.

That wouldn't be underwhelming at all.

>>135652083
>C'thun will only come out as a 10/10 or 12/12

if you only manage to play two or three of your C'thun minions yeah, but a C'thun deck is going to be running like 6 cards (that we've seen so far) that buff C'thun.

Also a 10 mana 12/12 deal 12 damage is still pretty good imo. Especially with BGH apparently getting nerfed.

>>135652265
Earlier it was fine but for some reason this evening I'm cueing into a LOT of aggro, and secret paladin with the perfect curves. Not sure what the hell is going on.

>>135652220
Sorry but it was Photoshop.

>>135651545
every single top deck right now is getting killed by the rotation or by the nerfs.

the decks that will be too strong for cthun decks to compete with - you are saying you already know what they are?

>>135652283
Yeah, I think people are trusting Blizzard too much on the "you're gonna make your entire deck around this card", in his current state C'thun's not a Reno and I don't think he will be

Have there been any spoilers yet today?

Can't wait for all the C'Thun RNG crying about how they had 10 health on board but C'Thun cleared both with 10-12 juggles.

cthun mage will be nutty

all you do is stall, play cthun minions, freeze doomsayer the turn before dropping cthun

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>People aren't gonna play C'thun in rogue to stealth Brann and play C'thun next turn

>>135652742

Yeah it's going to be nutty. Mages being able to do 10 damage to your face on 10 mana.

>that feeling when you pull a game back from the brink of defeat as warrior
Man this deck's pretty fun.

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>>135652827
>Not just doing it with druid
Rogue is also viable if shadowstep is untouched.

>>135652949
>tfw 5 forces of nature

So much dust

>>135653027
They will change savage roar, anon.

>>135652742
Not really, it'd probably be better for mage to go off with Antonidas than it would be to play C'thun. They already have excellent boardclear in freeze+doomsayer so he's not exactly good in that role, and if it's just going face it's a pyroblast that leaves a body so, eh.

>>135653086
N-no?

>>135653027

hahahahaha
no

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whispers of the old murlocs

r8

>>135653112
>if it's just going face it's a pyroblast that leaves a body so, eh.
is a pretty silly statement on its own

>>135653353
>3rd card
Mutanus is not a murloc anyways,no need to list that

>>135653027
>All those people that saved boom
>It's never getting nerfed because ayy lmao we wont nerf it because it's rotating
Literally there excuse from now on when it comes to nerfing things.

>Also all those people who dusted domo without realizing it's getting buffed

>>135651875
secret pally is like 30-40 % winrate, aggro shaman is 70%ish winrate. Are you sure you are mulliganing aggresively enough for ramp?

>>135653592
>it's getting buffed
I just said it was a shop

>>135653592
That was a fake.

>>135653353
>ice rager with windfury

that powercreep

What's the trick to beating freeze mage? I always feel like the whole game is up to them, not me.

>>135654209
be very aggressive, save silences and hope they draw badly
a freeze mage that draws perfectly is playing solitaire

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Help
I just got 700 gold, do i buy classic packs or the first wing of an adventure?
I like playing priest and i only have these cards

>>135654209
force their removal, play big shit.

>>135654391
If you want to go dragon priest, buy the first wing of BRM and work to get more of it.
If you want control priest in general, then you want LoE.
Classic packs are great if you're not sure which direction you want to go yet.

>>135654209
Loatheb after alex
Pray to god they don't draw into card draw

>>135654209
Play drood or warrior.

Heil Hitler

>>135654427
classics will be then

>>135654391
Not answering you anon, but now that adventures are disenchantable are some of the wings more efficient dust than packs?

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The Soulfire nerf from a while ago is actually beneficial for Peddler
>yfw zoo needs 4 damage from hand to kill you or he loses and gets either PO or Soulfire

>>135654391
Play arena? It builds a collection much faster.

sometimes I feel like this game will give me an aneurysm. I swear to fucking God if I hear LEE MY SHIELD XDDD FOR LE ARGUS XDDDD MAN one more time I will fucking smash my monitor to pieces

>love priest class but suck with him
>dont like hunter class but have the most fun with him

I don't know maybe when I get better cards for the priest

>>135655183
>playing arena while gvg is in the rotation

>>135655047
PO should be 2 mana. Fuck that shit it's barely a downside of dying when it's used for easy trades and burst

>>135655384
It's not in some of the recipe decks so I think it might be getting nerfed actually
It's also getting weaker with some of the sticky deathrattles leaving, but I wouldn't mind a nerf to 2 mana anyway

SONEOBE give me a deck for this brawl

>>135655384
its fine when you have to commit card slots to it, its not fine when you get it from a 2 mana 2/2

peddler is infinitely better than novice engineer

>>135655384
I think someone looked at the deck recipe decks and none had PO suggesting it may be getting nerfed. It needs it.

>>135649059
That isn't Zeriyah. That's a porn star named lily10115.

This gotta be one of the worst brawls ever made. Got removal with your minions? Win. Didn't? Get fucked

>>135655842
it would be fine if spells didnt cost 0
but there is literally zero strategy

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>murlocs

>>135655673
Idk, it's a 1 mana blessing of kings but you're only using it to trade or lethal, which is probably what you're doing with your blessing of kings anyway.

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Holy FUCK that took fucking ages. Feels bad to be such a little shitter.

See you next month.

>>135655982
Entomb or thoughtsteal? He's fucking trash if it was entomb, matchup is impossible to lose if you kill all your murlocs the turn you play them

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So with the speculated removal/nerf of Silence, could we see something like this?

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why is this allowed

>Go into fatigue and lose to justicar warrior

That was very very very fun. I really enjoy this game :)!

>>135656408
soo a 1 mana silence?

>>135656586
thats too strong

>>135656629

That's not a silence though.

>>135656629
No, just removes buffs. So if you silenced a shielded minibot that had been buffed by avenge, it'd just remove the avenge buff, not the divine shield.

>>135656408
>Silence a minion then remove silence from that minion. Draw a card.

There's no buffs or debuff text in the game and this works the same.

Silence is too powerful in general. Owl should only target deathrattle for example, spell breaker effects and earthshock taunts. That would fix them.

>>135656586
would be too OP, velen +2 mind blast+ 2 holy fire= rip.

>>135650662
ALL of these cards seem to be completely shit.
They only way Any of these actually becomes playable is by having some absolutely broken synergy with other cards, because they are weird.

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>>135656586
>Maly
>Velen
>Mindblast nukes for 20 each

If it were 2 something it might be balanced but probably not. Reducing mana on cards is too gamebreaking, even emperor shouldn't be able to do that so easily.

>>135656886
sooo, its just a very bad reincarnate?

>>135657267

Are you trolling or stupid?

>>135654391

buy the first wing of naxx so you can buy it later with gold, after that go for brm

>>135650662
The grand dustament 2 - Whispers of the old dust.

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>>135657184
>complaining about emperor

>>135656408
Silence doesn't need to be nerfed, owl needs to be nerfed.

IM FUCKING SEETHING WITH ANGER FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>135656886
No itd remove the Divine Shield too. Divine Shield counts as a buff to me since its put onto the minion, but there are a few things that wouldn't get removed. For instance if you Purged a Gurabashi that had gained a buff of its passive, it would remove the bonus damage but not the innate passive. Thered have to be a list of things that interacted with Purge effects to see whether or not it actually affected it, but now that I say it like this I realize its too complicated for Hearthstone and they probably wouldnt implement it.

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when ur flamewaker shows up at the tavern and u cast but he keep shooting but ur hand is too fire and the opponent catches on fire and ebola gnome yeet bruh savage roast squad trap house sidechick no chill senpai

>>135657819
Based filter turning the last word of this ghetto shitspeak into senpei

>>135656269
I can't climb for shit this season. Overall winrate is like 52%.

>>135657631
Draw better kid

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>>135657612
>I think Fireblast Fireblast frostbolt frostbolt ice lance ice lance with thalnos out is acceptable
>I think druid should have double combo by turn 7 thanks to invervate

I forgot this general is full of shieldbearers who can't see this game from an outside perspective.

Chrommagus heroic is fucking hard

>>135657184
I believe rotations exist because of this card, because there is no way it would never see play in the future

every card created would have to be made with emperor reduces its cost in mind

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>>135658549
both his dicks are

>>135658803
>tfw you'll never get to cuddle with chrom's giant dragon balls

>>135658549
Weird seeing this. I beat him just then.

I won using the alarm-o-bot + innervate memes. Get KT + taunts out. This bugs the AI so they never attack. Be careful, I lost during this even with KT + taunts because he double swiped my KT.

>>135657975
Same here, why is it so hard now? 5-legend last fall was a lot easier than 15-5 now.

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What a time to be alive.

Kel thuzad is horseshit. Paladin power is just shit.

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Thread is slow so here's a shitty card oc
Conjured Water functions like a coin
r8

>>135660419
ok..?

>>135660553
This, Lady of the lake and Coldarra Drake is OTK, are you stupid ?

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>get hit by knife juggler twice with 4 minions on board for perfect lethal
WACKY
STORIES
TO
TELL
YOUR FRIENDS

>>135660736
Ya

I was told Kripp was casting. Why is just that two fat fucks? Where's my potato?

>>135660736

>15 mana 3 card combo

are you? lmao

I wish Blizz would just show me the number of cards I had in hand the way they do my enemy.

>play dragon priest
>have gotten nerubar weblord from shredder more than any other drop

welp

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>casually playing ranked with Priest stealshit deck
>build a dragon deck
>suddenly risen about 5 ranks

anyone ever watch naniheichou, never seen her before and now she has thousands of viewers, doesn't seem awful

>>135660901
A loop like this shouldn't exist, period

>>135661182
it already does
apprentice, apprentice, apprentice, apprentice, antonidas

>>135661182
But Archmage + 4 sorcerer's apprentice exists. Of course that's like 19 mana with echo.

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>Alexstraza
>shit out spells
>win

FUCK FREEZE MAGE I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD YOU LITERALLY CANNOT BEAT THEM IF THEY DRAW WELL AND THEY HAVE PLENTY OF FUCKING DRAW IN THEIR DECKS TO MAKE SURE THEY DO

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This is my 1-1 arena right now

>>135661180

Isn't that Forsen's gf?

>>135661627
did you win

>>135661461
players who do poorly against freeze mage do so beacuse they don't play freeze mage themselves so they don't understand it's perspective

most matchups are 50/50 skill matchups, tl;dr get good shitter

>>135661461
Kezan Mystic

>>135661762
Rag hit my face, so yes

>>135661461
It's harder than it looks.

>>135661724
yea i think idk, never watch him

>>135661724
forsen's gf is naniwa

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>>135661461
I spotted the pally shitter guys, this dude right here is literally worse than bots.

>>135661783
>most matchups are 50/50 skill matchups
not even close
freeze mage has some of the most polarizing matchups of any popular deck

>>135661783
How.

>hurr just play Kezan

oh nice one tech card useless in almost every other matchup that'll be in the bottom of my fucking deck when I actually play freeze mage.

>>135662134
>worse to bots for losing to tier 1 deck

yea okay

>>135662282
The "good" matchups for freeze mage are not as good as you think. On the other hand control warrior is literally single digits and druid isn't much better.
People complaining about freeze mage being OP triggers me because you know for a fact they're literal shitters.
>>135662327
I didn't mention kazan bro, just your lack of skill. Play yourself freeze mage and you'll understand what I mean.

carotflowers#1308 NA i need watch & learn

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>mfw still not caught botting
>2 more borders to go

>>135663054
>implying no banwave when standard comes

>>135662752
I have played freeze mage m8
in fact I'm playing a variant right now (not a true freeze mage though)
freeze mage demolishes zoo, secret paladin and most other similar minion based decks if you know what you're doing and don't draw terribly and at the same time it always loses to druid and control warrior

the matchups are pretty damn polarizing, fairly sure this is commonly accepted as fact

>>135663054
blizz rarely ever bans bc they can rarely say for 100% certain that a person is botting

>shitter rank
>don't bother grinding because game infuriates me
>game infuriates me because of the excess rng but i can't drop it completely
>only play against aggro shitters at low ranks to exacerbate the problem
>finally play a control mirror match up to 1 card from fatigue before i kill the guy
and what a satisfying match that was
only control decks belong in this game

Best hearthstone bot?

Surprised nobody commenting on this ONOG tournament, it has the luckiest BM bitch I have ever seen and some of the worst plays ever made, its actually classic in a way.

>>135663182
>freeze mage demolishes zoo, secret paladin and most other similar minion based decks
This is what I exactly said in my previous post and you ignored. Those are not that good, they're 55-60% at best since they play very sticky minions and are decks than can pressure and put the freeze mage on a clock to end the game. I personally played zoo on ladder with double soulfire and loatheb, never lost to a freeze while laddering past month using it.

The best matchups for freeze mage are priest and rogue.

>>135663628
freeze mage

>>135663749
how do you get 55-60%? my winrate is probably 60-70% against these decks
tempo mage too

What the fuck do I play in ramp druid? Healing touch? Reno?

>>135663956
some ramp is a good start

>>135663879
>win rate sub-rank 15 mattering

>>135663956
double savage roar double force of nature

>>135663182
>freeze mage demolishes zoo

>>135664021
kek m8, do you just not know how to play the deck?
just checked a few sites, both Kolento at hearthpwn and tempostorm rate both zoo and secret paladin as 70/30 for the mage which fits my personal stats

>>135663956
Literally just big value shit, ramp cards and the combo.

>>135663749
That guys not even me.

Is your advice to "get good" seriously to play Hmm, Well Played or wallet warrior.

Fuckin nice you sure showed me.

>>135660830
>weeb

no sympathy

>>135663407
I'm a controlfag and even I wouldn't want to play against only control decks. Shit just takes too long most of the time and half the games are won just as quickly as aggro games but last twenty extra minutes anyway because they won't let go.

Can someone explain why Knife Juggler triggers after he's stolen if he's stolen through MCT? I don't know if the same thing happens with Cabal as well.

>>135661112
mah nigga, dragon priest is for real men

will be even more fun in standard since most of our stuff is staying

>>135664621
because he checks for juggles after battlecries resolve

>>135664621
because battlecries take place before the minion hits the board, except for when sylvannas is involved

>>135664749
>>135664762
Can someone list the exact order of play? I'm always confused as fuck about it.

>>135664621

Battlecries "happen" before the minion is "summoned"

So the battlecry steals the Juggler first.
Then the MC Tech is summoned.
Then the juggle goes off from the MC Tech.

>>135664762
>because battlecries take place before the minion hits the board
that's wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln0BisR_SfY

>>135664860
wrong
>>135664828
1. MC tech summon begins
2. MC enters
3. Battlecry goes off, stealing knife juggler
4. MC tech summon ends
5. knife juggler checks for summons

>>135664472
You didn' ask for advice but if you ask me I'll be glad to give you a serious answer. That post was about freeze mage matchup winrates.

In case you're the guy who complained about freeze mage and you wanna know how to win against him, other than playing control warrior or combo druid you can use the tech cards loatheb, kazan and any fort of healing to improve your deck against freeze mage. Every matchupis different and you kinda need to know what is the freeze mage capable of every turn and judge what kind of hand he could have by the cards he plays (kind of what you should do with every other deck) and that's why I told you to play freeze mage yourself to see my point.

>>135664903
its right

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I wanna fuck that

>>135661112
that was my experience until about 14/15 where the amount of freeze mage and renolock are consistently tearing me a new one. I mean missing some key stuff like Ysera though.

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>Heroic Lord Victor plays Astral Communion
Oh Blizzard AI.

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False advertising is against the law, Blizzard.

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>>135655589

just play on curve

>>135665145
yea thats a cute snake

>>135665134
no watch the video retard
ever seen leeroy get killed by knife juggler from his own dragons? before he can attack?

>>135665063

4 and 5 blatantly contradict each other.

>>135665256
or the other way around
either way the battlecry goes off after MC Tech lands and before knife juggler checks for summons

>>135665246
>leeroy appears
>its battlecry is actually charge, and you can clearly see the charge animation go off
>whelps trigger juggler and leeroy dies before you can attack with him but the battlecry (charge) already had effect

>>135664903
the information provided in that video is incorrect

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>>135665227
That's lewd anon.

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Tell me the most angry you've been in the game recently, /hsg/.

>>135665492
charge is not a battlecry retard
1. leeroy enters
2. whelp 1 is summoned
2.1 juggler hits leeroy
3. whelp 2 is summoned
3.1 juggler hits leeroy
4. summon ends
5. leeroy dies

>>135665183
I'm at almost 5k ranked win, it happens you know

every fucking time i play shaman i just end up with rockbiters, lightning storms and lightning bolts in my hand

this earth is gay

>be a rank 19 shitter
>playing my shitty control warrior deck with only harrison and alex as legendaries in ranked
>lose to a full-on control warrior deck with every single legendary imaginable
why the fuck are you in my rank 19 climb

>>135665574
Anger is not an emotion to feel at this game.
Getting angry at this game is like getting angry when Bowser comes and gives all your stars to the person in 4th place.

>>135665493
it is not, if you actually watched it you'd see how his arguments are pretty much bullet

>>135665643
it's like arguing with a mentally handicapped person

>>135665686
every fucking time i play against shaman he just kills me with doomhammer, double rockbitter and cheap burst spells from +20 health

this earth is gay

>>135665773
Except this isn't a game I'm playing with friends. It's supposed to be "ranked" and losing a rank because your opponent esportaled turn 4 Dr. Boom should not be a thing for the "fun and wacky stories to tell your friends" factor and it's right that people should be pissed.

>>135650662
by the way it's worded, the druid one should activate only with c'thun in play

>>135665813
then explain how it works
explain how there's a special extra rule coded in just for sylvanas just so your theory doesn't fall apart

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>>135665574
>arena vs rogue
>flame juggler 50/50 to hit 5/1
>hits face
>last round, flame juggler 50/50 to hit face (at 1hp)
>hits minion

>>135665791
you realize, just because it HAPPENS that way doesnt means its supposed to?

Like maybe its because of bad programming that the opposite thing will happen with different cards

>>135666024
Not him but Hearthstone has a lot of extra special rules hardcoded for specific minions. Pretty much all Jaraxxus interactions are that way.

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Hmm

>>135665574
What about the happiest?
Was playing against tempo mage as control warrior, dude esports'd, next turn he coins out an acidmaw so I just sat with death's bite and took 2 damage for turn after turn until he finally dropped something and had to frostbolt his own guy
pretty fucking good play mage

>>135666208
>Sacred trial triggers on Jaraxxus but doesn't kill him or you.

kek.

>>135666208
its not hardcoded to be that way, its an error in the coding

for example

use a minions battlecry to kill sylvanas
minion hits the board
sylvanas deathrattle steals it

use a minions battlecry to kill mad scientist
mad scientist deathrattle goes off and gets mirror entity
minion hits board and gets copied

>>135665747
They only run like 3 besides Elise unless his deck was weird

>>135666360
They "fixed" that in the last patch. Now sacred trial instakills Jaraxxus (and you) no matter how many minions you have on board.

>>135666173
I don't know what your point is
battlecries always resolve after minions enter play, this is how it's programmed and this is how it works in game

ever filled a board and played boom?
why do you get only boom and not a single boom bot?

>>135666208
jaraxxus' battlecry is so unique
but even that resolves after the minion enters play

>>135666360
repentance and snipe will kill it/you

>>135666450
Nice.

>>135665773
Say that to people who make thousands by playing the game
When get upset is because I lost to someone who didn't deserve to win (good look/retarded strong deck carrying him over his missplays) because I take the game as a competition and it doesn't feel fair when that happens.

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>turn 1 I zombie chow
>his turn 1 he coins out a knife juggler
>turn 2 I have nothing so I trade and hero power
>turn 2 he plays another juggler
>turn 3 I play muster and trade
He concedes right after i finish my turn and adds me

>tells me that I got lucky and that I'm complete trash

Don't get me wrong I can understand getting salty, but don't take it out on the midrange pally after 3 turns.

>>135666489
>battlecries always resolve after minions enter play
No they dont, see knife juggler and MTC, the whole point this discussion was brought up

>>135666630
>I play muster
stopped reading, you're a literal shitter

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>>135666525
>when your opponent is misplaying like fuck but he still wins because of just how much better his deck is compared to yours

there is no worse feel when you're f2p

>>135666525
I mean you're supposed to be playing the best decks if you're really competitive
I understand the draw/rng part completely

>>135666641
how's that a counterexample?
it works exactly as you'd expect

knife juggler checks for summons after battlecries resolve, so after it's been stolen

>>135666828
>how's that a counterexample?
Because by this logic leeroy SHOULDNT die from whelps and knife juggler, because it should come down AFTER the battlecry resolves

MTC and Leeroy/Juggler work the exact opposite

same as Sylvanas and Mad Scientist/Mirror Entity

>>135666641
>MTC
>mind tech control

>>135666802
Yea but I see no fun in playing autopiloted decks like secret paladin, druid or aggrocancer.

>>135666738
Is this a meme or something? Why is muster getting hate all of a sudden?

>>135666828
If that were true juggler wouldn't trigger off of the summoned MCT that stole it, it's "played" by the opponent after MCT

How you'd expect it to be is

1. MCT is summoned
2. summon is resolved
3. MCT steals knife juggler
4. Knife juggler doesn't trigger just like if you play a minion and then juggler it doesn't trigger

>>135667038
wait that's true, but it's a problem with knife juggler, not battlecries
you're correct, knife juggler checks for summons mid-battlecry which is why leeroy can be killed by his own dragons


think about it, if battlecries resolved first, then leeroy couldn't die because there would be no leeroy to hit until after knife juggler had already thrown his knives


watch the video m8, it explains it very well

>>135667091
Probably because it's a really fucking good card? 3 1/1's and a 1/4 weapon to function as a ping for 3 mana is good
But midrange pally is shit so w/e

>>135667091
Idk, maybe because it has always been overtuned? Don't you remember the complete trash paladin was before GvG?

>>135667276
>watch the video m8, it explains it very well
You are missing the point, it WORKS that way in game, but it SHOULDNT by Blizzards own Battlecry logic and rules, which means its an error that they either CANT fix or dont

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amazing run or incoming disappointment?

know my arena luck it's the later

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>post yfw u get banned in the coming expension

>>135667391
MCT is an error, or feels like it
everything else, including leeroy is correct

>>135667448
do you even have to ask?

>>135667448
flame leviathan

>>135667494
>everything else, including leeroy is correct
Except everything else ISNT correct

Use a Fire Elemental to kill Sylvanas and see what happens, then use a Fire Elemental to kill a Mad Scientist that summons a Mirror Entity and watch what happens. Obviously one of these are wrong, because they resolve in a completely different order.

>>135667448
baron rivendare

>>135667314
>>135667327
Is it just one autistic faggot complaining about it recently then? Everyone knows muster is one of the best spells in the game and paladin was great after gvg but died after patron released

>>135666525

Try Rocket League instead.

100% skill, actually fun to play, etc etc.

so when is massan geting unbanned

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>he surrenders before i deal the killing blow

>>135665686
>lightning storms

>>135667770
i'm pretty sure i saw his stream a day or two ago, he already is
tweeted it was 1 day for non-gaming content
i cant imagine what the fuck he was doing considering some of the garbage on twitch

>>135667735
paladin surely died when patron got released senpai, not like it was a counter for every good deck against patron

>>135667678
wait no, that's both correct and as you'd expect as all secrets always trigger last

1. fire elemental enters play
2. elemental kills sylvanas
3. deathrattle triggers, stealing elemental

1. fire elemental enters play'
2. kills scientist
3. deathrattle triggers
4. summoning ends
5. mirror entity checks for summons

>>135665686

That's the risk you take.

I do very well with tempo oil rogue and I accept the relatively poor aggro shaman matchup because of specifically what you described. Sometimes they get godhands and I just lose within the first 4-5 turns, but often they just fuck themselves up. And I'm okay with that.

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>>135650662
>How do you know TGT will be a shitty expansion, anon? We've only seen a few cards so far!
>I'm sure Blizzard knows what they are doing. Inspire decks will be all over the ladder once we see the rest of the set
>He thinks TGT will be a flop! I'm screencapping this so I can laugh at you later!

>just started
>dust everything to make freeze mage
>have good freeze spells
>not enough damage output
>can't afford alex or archmage yet

What should I use to hold me over until I can afford those big damage dealers?

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>>135667557
>>135667548
>>135667448
I got reno AND leviathan. Sweet baby jesus the pressure is on.

>>135665145
me on the left

>>135668058
don't craft freeze mage
it's likely to get nerfed soon

>>135667885
I bet you play every card you can before dealing the final hit even though you don't need to.

>>135668169
Too late now and I'm having fun with it

>>135668096
if you dont get 12 wins with this you may aswell rather play against the inkeeper

>>135666208
>jaraxxus is a minion
>and a hero
>he's a hero and a minion at the same time for some reason just for sac pact

...

>I play Nef in Dragon Priest and never get Sac Pact

Great Game Blizzard...

>>135668058
Pyroblast
Forgotten torch
another deck because one or the other of those cards are vital
alex tends to be for a more aggressive freeze mage and tony plays slower

also freeze mage is probably getting nerfed but you'll get full dust refunds at least

>>135668056
Who are you quoting?

>>135668058
you simply can't play freeze mage without alex

>>135668169
I doubt all of it will be nerfed, if any of it. It'll lose a couple cards but most likely will find decent substitutes in WOG cards.

>Lose game.
>Add them to tell them it was a sweet game.
>They don't accept.

Why? You would think they would want a good laugh at someone probably being salty as fuck toward them.

>>135668184
Aggroshitters that do this should commit sodoku
In close control matchups I like to see what they had though, especially if we're in double monkey fatigue

>>135668238
Sacrifical pact doesn't specify minion, it just says "destroy a demon"

>>135668271
Yeah I'm finding that out the hard way. I guess Pyro can work got 200 saved

>>135668096

>Reno
>with multiple 2ofs
>Flame Leviathan
>literally war golem with a down side

Yeah bro the pressure is really on.

>>135667678
that's both very intuitive and correct
it's explained in the video he linked

>>135668184
I only do this when in arena to show I had multiple ways for lethal so they don't feel as bad.

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>>135668668
Be nice to anon. He needs our support or he'll fuck up immediately.

>>135668454
>Opponent has lethal
>Going to add them because it was genuinely funny as we both had the exact same opening hand but he was able to use the coin to velen's something
>he starts BMing, spamming "greetings" during his turn before killing me

For a second there I almost had an enjoyable moment in Hearthstone

>>135668056
If the basis of your assumption is just "blizzard continuously makes bad expansions", then I gotta tell you LoE was alright, and TGT would be too if it wasn't for dr.6

>>135669179
>Inspire

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>Summon Chromaggus
>Attack enemy shredder with other minion
>Shredder pops a fucking patient assassin

>>135669584
sequencing

>>135669323
Now if you wrote joust I would agree, but a lot of the inspire minions are pretty good cards in arena

>>135669584
Unless you are specifically afraid of a taunt, you always pop shredder before the rest of your turn.
You did it to yourself.

>joust

>>135669707

>hold chromaggus
>pop shredder
>mana wraith

sequencing

>>135669584
unless that the minion you attacked with was a loot hoarder it's your own fault

>>135669584
Why didn't you play around it by attacking shredder first and getting punished if it dropped a mana wraith or maybe you wanted to battlecry and out comes nerubar weblord FUCK THAT FUCKING MECH

>>135669740
>People trade them first
I've witnessed multiple mana wraths and weblords force concedes because they can't play what they were going to.

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>>135668881
No one cares how many ways you have lethal. Just finish the match.

what are the key cards to be aware of when killing shredder?
>taunts
>doomsayer
>mana wraith
>nerubar
>patient assassin
any more?

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Thoughts?

>>135669945
Not him, I only do it to be an ass to my opponent.

>>135669951
Don't owl because of the 1/2190 chance they get darnassus aspirant and you can just fucking kill their mana crystal you dirty whore

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Well played my armoured friend

f

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>>135669707
>>135669740
>play dragons
>pop shredder first
>can't play 2/3'ds of my hand

Spectate a friend
Brolaire#2992
EU

t-thanks

>>135670115
i dont understand why the board is blacked out

>>135669951
Mad scientist? Doesn't apply to all classes but when it does it backfires

>>135668184
I do this even when I know my opponent has lethal and when I know I have lethal.

I don't know why, it bothers me to "waste" mana. But you do also get more experience the more cards you play in a match so, it's semi-reasonable.

>>135670310
It's the smoke effect from fatigue.

>>135670352
oh lmao i thought it was smudged in paint but the names were left alone

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>>135670321
>But you do also get more experience the more cards you play in a match so, it's semi-reasonable.

>2016
>not having maxed every hero already

>>135670456
right I forgot there haven been 0 people getting into hearthstone recently, everyone has been playing since beta and has a full collection of all gold heros

>>135668347
Every shitter about TGT and soon to be WoG

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This is fucking bullshit. Mage's first unstable portal is manatide totem

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>anyfin isn't a legendary forcing there to be only one in a fucking deck
Fuck the fucking faggot that that made this fucking card.

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>>135670456
>maxing out rogue and hunter
>ever

>>135670672
innervate out a cabal

>>135670595
Right and LoE was garbage too

>>135670696
There's literally nothing wrong with Anyfin.

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>>135670559
>2016
>new players actually sticking around

>>135670696
It's a spell.

>>135670896
everyfin is wrong with it

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>>135671076

The EU championships will have a legendary on the last day.
Does that mean asian news sites are going to have 2 over the course of this weekend?

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Since Blizzard can't be arsed to give use new cards, let's post OC instead.

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>All these control priests on ladder

>>135671657
easy mindblast lethal

>>135671747

>end of the turn.

>>135671937
>Karazhan + Faceless Manipulator + Mind Blast + Mind Blast in hand
>Emperor
Easiest 30 damage lethal of my life

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>another brawl dominated by mage
Good thing I had the 5 win quest for the class.

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>Go against Warrior
Packs on millions of armor while clearing the board practically for free
>Go against Mage
Answer to fucking EVERYTHING bullshit, supposed to be jack of all trades class with no particular strong point but dominates fucking everything with an abundance of variety
>Go against druid
*Angry tree noises*
>Go against Priest
Game time increased to a 30 minute minimum
>Go against Paladin
WHO AM I?!

FUCKING ENOUGH. ONLY 3 CLASSES ARE FUN TO PLAY AGAINST. THE OTHER 6 MAKE ME WANT TO STRANGLE SOMEONE

>>135671671
Seriously what the fuck? Is there some streamer that has been pushing control priest because I'm running into a fuckton of them.

Really sucks when they diddle on my shit cause I'm dragon priest, I clench anytime Auchenai hits the board.

>>135672285
>4 card combo that requires two turns to complete
lol?

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>>135671657

>>135672503
Literally a better arcane explosion

gud

>>135672484
Fuck rogue with their cheating spells and sap

>>135672503
I can never tell if people are baiting or just dumb in these threads.

Would inspire see more play if different minions had different triggers?
Like if confessor paletress said
Inspire: minion, transform it into a random legendary.
To mean that when you play a minion the effect triggers. Likewise that Dalaran Aspirant could trigger from spells being cast.

It just seems like the decision to base such a potentially cool mechanic on the thing you're only supposed to do when you have no better play is ridiculous.
Unless you're shadowform priest, or fat warrior with justicar, then you want to HP every turn.

>>135672809

Rogue is fine. It's a shame Rogue's are rare, I enjoy every rogue match up I get.

>>135672809
Priest is ironically better at thieving niggatry than Rogue, for some fucking reason.

That being said, Rogue's honestly not that bad to play against, mostly because they're just not a good class right now. Even if they had solid cards they wouldn't be that bad.

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Only works if the minion is currently stealthed.

>>135670814
LoE was planned way before TGT, why do you think they could push its launch to 1 week after the announcement? LoE was made BEFORE TGT, so yes, every expansion after that is shit

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>>135673246

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>against warrior
>he's at 5 hp
>I check my phone for less than 10 seconds
>look at the game again
>warrior now has 5 hp and 18 armor
so le epic xD lmao totally not broken xD

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>>135673319
>LoE was made BEFORE TGT

>>135673246
>Conceal + Subterfuge on 4 minions (Literally 3 mana to play both)
>+12 charging damage that stays on the board as 4 big minions (at least 4/4s) afterwards
Broken as shit.

>>135673319
>why do you think they could push its launch to 1 week before the announcement

Because they only launch one wing a week you stupid fuck, it's 5 cards at once as opposed to the 100+ of TGT

Holy shit Rogue is fun. I really regret not playing the class earlier.

Although i wonder, are there any viable control variants? Anub'arak looks neat but he seems better for a time when matches last long enough to summon him and make use of his deathrattle. I keep running into a ton of hyper agressive decks that try to close out before turn 10.

>>135673709
No it only gives Stealth minions the buff, not minions with stealth from another buff.

>>135650662
>135650662
lol what a bunch of crap.
This c'thun mechanic is the worst i've seen so far. Think about that, the little shit that gives +1 +1 to c'thun, he is like a Shattered Sun Cleric that can only give the buff to ONE SINGLE card in your deck. How bad is that? And when you play c'thun all your c'thun buffer cards are completely useless for the rest of the game.
Every time you play a c'thun buffer, you are basically depositing some of the value of the card to get it back later. And you can only get that deposit back if you get c'thun card ot play.
But even if you get to play C'thun and wipe the enemy board, you will be so far behind in the game it will be irrelevant.
Enjoy paying 50 bucks to get a card back, this is looking like another TGT fiasco.

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>>135673776

Rogue is the only class I enjoy everyone else is boring as shit or feels disgustingly cheap. Shame she's really inconsistent. This update better give her the buffs she needs. I don't want her OP so every druid and paladin dickriding drone doesn't start locking her, I just want her viable.

>>135673776
Rogue is more combo or aggro than control. They kinda lack the options for pure control, mostly in keeping themselves alive. Warriors and Priests can armor and heal for days. Mages can just delete the entire board in one turn or freeze it down or be immune or some stupid shit. Rogue just whittles someone down and gets them low enough to burst down.

>>135673867
That's not how Stealth works.

As in legitimately, Stealth always works the same, whether the minion starts with it or it's given later. Stealth is always counted as a buff.

>>135672492
I think Forsen was running one earlier today. It's led to some easy wins as freeze, even a few as Elise/midrange paladin when I get really bored.

>>135673898
the effect of cthun is so strong though
and all the minions have decent stats
2 mana 2/3, 3 mana 3/4 so you're not completely gimping your early game for it

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>>135671657
Looking back he should probably have higher stats for something that costs 12...

>>135673964
>rank 19
why is that not a surprise

>>135673964
Same. I have so much more fun as Malygos/Oil than I do with so many other decks. I'm hoping that the fact that Malyrogue is basically one of their default deck recipes means that it's going to be a viable deck that's a bit more consistent.

>>135674057
Alright how about "Give your Stealthed Stealth minions +3/+3" That sounds weird though, but basically I'm trying to say they have to have Stealth as text on their base self.

>>135673574
>>135673723
You gotta be some special kind of retarded if you think Blizzard could push LoE so fast after TGT, when it takes more time to make one adventure rather than push 130 terrible cards into the game.

>B-But muh testing
>Implying they test shit

Also, there's no Inspire nor Joust cards in LoE, and that came out before Brode announced they were leaving those mechanics behind

>>135673898
>He is like a shattered sun cleric
>sun cleric has 4 health
>sun cleric stays on board and gives continuous buffs

apt comparison my man. Also how the hell are the minions "useless" when they all have vanilla stats? A 3/4 for 3 and 4/5 for 4 is still good plus the fact that they have an effect on them.

>you will be so far behind in the game

How are you going to fall behind? The minions that buff C'thun aren't shit with 2 health that die immediately, they all have good stats. If you're falling behind it's not because you're playing cultists.

>literally only 16 cards most of which have good stats and people calling it crap

k

>>135674306

Because I already said she's inconsistent. I'll get to rank 15 then just face mage/druid/warrior/paladin bullshit until I 'm back at 20.

It makes me want to uninstall honestly cause I know damn fucking well if I just used a generic cancer netdeck I'd be in the big leagues. But that isn't fun, how do people enjoy that shit?

>>135674343
Blizzard doesn't have a code for checking card text.

All cards that interact with minions on conditional basis work using the same code for detecting active buffs and tribal tags.

I understand what you're saying but Blizzard are just too lazy for that shit.

hmm

>>135674491
there are some viable meme decks
currently running an aggro freeze mage with a 65% win rate from rank 17 where I started to rank 9 now

>>135674608

well

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>>135674221
I made a few Warcraft 3 cards because I cant move on

>>135673509

JUST

>>135674653

>Giving me Mage decks when this is about Rogue

Please read next time m8

>>135674458
Wow it's almost like there was a fucking month long break in the middle the wings being pushed out because they weren't fucking done with it. They definitely had the whole thing done before TGT well memed anon

>>135674793
what I'm saying is that there is more than "generic cancer netdecks" and decks that don't really work