/shmupg/ - Shmup General

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What is the best DBCS boss theme and why is it Violent Ruler?

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And feel free to talk about general niche Arcade Games as well! Niche because I don't want this to turn into the fighting games general or something

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Cave-san's cute smile is a miracle of the universe!

Reminder: DBCS Taito DLC ships are out and are pretty fun. Here's the bundle: http://store.steampowered.com/bundle/258

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>>135634495
That's a tough choice, though I'm still a big fan of Hello 31337

>>135635018
This.

Don't forget your training!

>>135635018
>>135636972
Stop shitting the thread up with your stupid nep bullshit

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>>135637526

This. Whenever you're frustrated or something, remember: you're doing it for Cave-san~!

>>135637832
Even if I'm playing Raiden?

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>>135637832
THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT AT ALL

>>135638180
How's Raiden V

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>>135638740
It's fantastic desu senpai, truly the killer app the XBone needed.

>>135638740
About as good as Hyperdimension Neptunia.

>>135637832
I don't mind her, but she's really not the reason I'm playing these games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkzv5JPVoro
Too tired to dodge anymore today

https://my.mixtape.moe/cthazd.webm I love this one.

>>135643173
Huh, I should test out this thing with longer webms.

https://my.mixtape.moe/exmsrh.webm

>>135645723
>https://my.mixtape.moe/exmsrh.webm
Works well.

>>135645723
>>135646038
I really need to get to work on Final Boss, but that hori level really burns me out.

>>135645723
Heh, so it's possible to upload entire clears that way and not bother with youtube's "lol your video too smal no 60 fps for you".
The problem is recording that much.

>>135648612
That's pretty cool. If only my computer wasn't such a piece of crap I'd be uploading my shitty attempts along with you.


So what's everyone working on? I'm working on Kamui since I realized I never 1cc'd it.

>>135647128
>>135648612
>>135649759
Mixtape is a gem. There's some others like it, but that one works amazing for me. The thing is, you have to upload it as Webm so it streams on a browser. If you upload any other video format, it downloads the video instead so keep that in mind.
Also, working on DDP's Clear aswell as practicing a bit of Len'en 4. Good Luck with your clears!

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>>135649759
>what's everyone working on?
Futari Ultra. I doubt I'll ever actually clear because I'm a huge scrub, but I love it so I'm going to keep playing it.

Just gonna finish learning this stage 5 route.

>>135649759
>I'm working on Kamui since I realized I never 1cc'd it.
Great game, good luck.

>>135649759
Technically, I should be grinding Espgaluda. But barely even playing shmups now.

>>135635575
Of those three I've never played Night Striker, how is it?

>>135649759
There's that one scene in DS which if completed will kick my total score over the coveted 50 million and with lots of potential yet, but I've been laying it off and drinking alcohol instead.

>>135657193
>I've been laying it off and drinking alcohol instead.
Just as ZUN intended.

>>135635018
Dumb nep poster

Recommendations for someone who wants to start in the genre but only plays on Linux? It seems like every shmup is Win only.

>>135658242
Shmupmame has a linux version iirc
Most jap devs only bother with Windows versions tho do either use wine or dualboot windows

>>135658242
Most doujin and indie games should run well enough in Wine, though I cannot help you set it up. I can't find any shmupmame versions for Linux, but I found something called "advancemame" that does http://www.advancemame.it/doc-build#5.1

>>135657754
Yeah, but the lack of progress is starting to get to me. I don't really want to be anyone's competition, just to get decent-ish scores across the board, and I estimate that would place me at 70 mil, so that's pretty much my "end goal" for now, which I have to accomplish by myself. It would be nice to go down hard on the scenes, but I fear I would be overestimating my photography skills, in addition to the fact that I'd like to play Shoot the Bullet in a similar fashion before deciding to spend an eternity grinding Double Spoiler. Overall it's very hard to think of myself in terms even remotely similar to the people who easily get scores higher than my highest in the photo games, so competition is not a motivational factor for me, unless someone is going to pick up DS as well and challenge me to a scrub contest.

>>135658484
>>135659092
Ok, I'll take a look on this, thanks for the help anon

>>135645723
Teach me how to webm, please.

>>135662983
Webm for Bakas is your friend.

>>135662983
Get webm for retards or derivative of it.
Filesize limit on most of 4chan is 3MB with no sound.
Don't bother with 1080p, resize your webm down if you want it to be longer than 6 seconds.

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>>135665192
>Don't bother with 1080p, resize your webm down if you want it to be longer than 6 seconds.
Definitely gonna stress this if you want to do shmup webms, and especially if you're going to do bullet hell webms.

Thanks again for the TAS Inbachi webms, webmbro.

>>135645723
Is it just me or is the Player 2 Ship way better than the Player 1 one?

Its main shot is more powerful and has a wider reach.
The sideways shot is much easier to aim
>implying anyone ever uses backshot
The lock on is also much easier to use.

The only area where the 1 Player ship is better would be the Charge Shot, which in all honestly I would say is almost broken.

ded thred

>>135673548
Can't spell Gundeadligne without ded

>>135675619
That game any good? I was gifted it back when I was allergic to horis.

>>135662983

https://a.pomf.cat/zldykb.webm

tfw u restart the first stage for an hour

>>135677313
tfw ur first run out of stage 2 is an all clear

>>135677313
>>135678161
Pretty normal desu.

>>135678502
idk i feel like i should just let it rock but im learning ddp and i really hate missing the no miss bonus, at least for stage 1 and 2

>>135678697
True autism hits when you start hating dropping the chain except when it's 100% inevitable.

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>decide to try out CRS
>beat stage 0 but with a ton of extra lives
>feel exhausted
>game loops
>quit because I'm not feeling it

>>135659452
Rereading my own post now and realising that it doesn't make sense. Don't drink and attempt write-ups, kids. I'm not giving up on anything.

>>135680317
Get back to that loop nigger.
Put those extra lives to good use.

>>135681841
That's the stuff

up

>>135671759
I still can't figure out his final pattern.

>>135686869
It's not meant to be figured out, use the same trick Jaimers did.

>>135689939
Fuck I need to rewatch that video again. And I had just subscribed to him because his walkthroughs of the games are just fucking fantastic.

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Bump.

Follett is so boring.

>>135693612
You're boring!

Her dragon is p cute.

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>>135693894
I like her enough, I just like all the others better.

>>135676864
It's similar to the first one, but the rank keeps on rising instead of stopping after a certain amount.

>>135686869
You have to have perfect knowledge of your hitbox

http://shmuplations.com/dodonpachi2/
>“This is the first STG I’ve ever looped”
>“I’m so glad they set the difficulty so even beginners can fully enjoy it!”
Is this true /shmupg/ ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f77x3FC-g8o

>>135705354
Be attitude for Gain

>>135706381
Gain the warrior?
Gee, I dunno about that.

>>135702784
I'd say so
I'm learning it now and enjoying it

Matmouse is streaming Futari Original again!

And Yakamino is playing Deathsmiles MBL. Only Rank 3, but the score route for this game just looks awesome.

>>135702784
Of course, one of the biggest selling points of danmaku is they managed to offer the illusion of difficulty to make lesser players feel bad ass. Compare it to raiden, psikyo, parodius da etcetc which don't give you this illusion via gimmick and just mercilessly destroy your shitter anyway.

>>135709047
post your 2-ALLs

>>135708852
I haven't seen DOJ in a while, is SPS ok?

>>135709337
Missing the point and having such a childish feminine tier emotional response. Of course at the highest level danmaku gets stupid hard but it's a much friendlier progression essentially that can offer something to a broader spectrum of skill. Old style shmups don't do this and have way less room for error where as in danmaku you can watch many scrub players wave around like an idiot and still get through because of luck and then feeling bad ass for it, a perfect example of the illusion of skill.

>>135709618
He streamed it yesterday.

>>135709626
>wave around like an idiot and still get through because of luck
No, you really can't do this. Case in point, this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMX7_ZlFgDM

>>135709948
hes just being epic, dont pay mind to him

>>135709948
Yes you can of course it doesn't work everytime but luck dodges clearly exist way more in danmaku than anywhere else. Stop trying to be an obtuse sperg cunter, fucking dickhead.

>>135709996
>dont pay mind to him
Not even correct english, daft cunt

>>135710065
Luck dodges are so called because you have to get lucky for them to happen. If you fuck up you still have an extremely high chance of dying regardless of hitbox size. When I see a luck dodge happen it doesn't look like skill, it looks like the player fucked up.

>>135710752
And the room for luck is greater in danmaku generally speaking than older styled games which is entirely my point but hey keep being an argumentative sperg for the sake of it, it's making you look so smart.

>>135711745
Your original point was that danmaku creates the illusion of skill, in case you forgot.

>>135708852
>Dat Saikyo bullets
Holy shit, where can I get Futanari Black?

>>135709701
He did seem to have a bad day, there wasn't a single 900mil first loop during the whole stream.

>>135713702
/d/
Or MAME, or 360 as DLC, and possibly Steam in the near future.

>>135705354
Goddamn, I completely forgot about that song.

>>135705354
Thread theme forever.

>>135709047
>muh psikyo
>muh horis
>muh seibu
>muh extremely skilled dodging
kys familia.

>>135642164
I'm new to Shoot em up genre. This game looks cool can you tell me the name of it?

>>135715803
Cho Ren Shit 68k

>>135715925
Thanks a lot

G-guys I have a date with that girl who said that she likes touhou...

>>135716303
Ask her about her ten desires.

>>135716363
you listed ass twice

>>135716303
Tell her to poast she is scores.

>>135715925
You were right it was shit

Matmouse has been pretty slow lately.

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>she sees you bombing in stage 1

>>135716982
dumb nep poster

>>135716982
but you need to bomb the houses in stage 1 of ibara

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>>135716982
Can you impress girls with your shmup skill?

>>135717475
I can impress my waifu, that's good enough!

>>135717475
I can impress cute boys tho

>>135717287
Doesn't that give you a shitload of points of you do it at the right rank?

>>135719409
i thought it was more because if you bomb them you get a ton of medals

>Dariusburst looks like everything I could ever want in a shmup and appears to have long-lasting content!

>Still too fucking expensive on that initial purchase but I know I'd enjoy it because Darius fan.

Damn.

>>135720652
either buy it or pirate it

>>135721213

But the pirate version won't have the DLC I know I'm cancer BUT PLAYABLE SHIP DLC ALWAYS GETS ME or the online needed content...will it?

>>135720652
This. We'll probably have to wait for a sale for it to drop, but knowing how the discounts have been, it probably won't drop below 30 euros or something. RIP Dream.

How long until MOSS caves and puts Raiden V on steam?

R-type arcade

Stage 5 boss - Bydo (the chip surrounded by rocks that are hauled at you one by one)

Just how the shit do I reliably beat this fucker?

I start the fight by firing a full charge that sometimes takes 1/4 of the rocks and sometimes doesn't make a fucking dent in the lousy shit. I then fire away the incoming rocks until he's exposed and can be blasted.

But this strategy (used on every playthrough I watched) relies on sheer luck. Sure, the movement of the boss should be unpredictable, but the the effect my weapon has on him should freaking not. And if that initial shot doesn't do enough damage than I can go fuck myself and die because there's nothing that can save me from a volley of those near unbreakable boulders flung from up close.

>>135722635
after they put it on PS4

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>>135716303
Ask her which games she's all cleared; if she doesn't even have a single 1cc she's worthless senpai.

>>135717475
I was playing DDP before class started and a girl watched the whole thing because "that's the craziest game I've ever seen." Would've got her number but she already had a boyfriend.

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I'd graze through these bombs if you guys know what I mean.

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>>135717475

Which one is harder? Playing shmups for score or scoring chicks with shmups?

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>>135726357
Trick question, both are impossible

>>135723157
This boss? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTshL3yc77k

Guys which Touhou would you like to fuck?

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>>135728778
Unzan.

>>135728778
Reco

>>135716303
We don't give a fuck mate and this isn't your diary so fuck off, loser.

>>135728472

exactly, the strategy used in the video relies on luck - if the initial shot doesn't do enough damage (which seems to be completely random) and / or if the boss moves wrong, you're fucked

>>135728778

Oh fuqq I posted the wrong webm. Sorry guys.

>>135720496
nah only certain buildings give medals the rest is simply for bombing points. The strat is generally to bomb constantly neear the top of the screen so you can get medal drops instantly and up to 10k value by the first major medal building, there is 2 small medal buildings that if you bomb and sweep over from south to north can increase that medal value by 3.

>>135721536
Though I heard Jamestown has bad dev support but I keep waiting for its "never ever" sale, fuck.

>>135729504
This guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_kkW5wW8-E seems to do the same thing. I won't pretend I have any experience with R-Type, and because of that it looks nowhere near as hard as it is, but to me it seems like you want to damage race the thing.

>>135729504
>>135730043
Found a video where the uploader did not have phenomenal luck: https://youtu.be/xS0kIq85i7I?t=10m39s

Hate to break it to you anon, but it looks like "damage race" is right.

>>135730043

yes, problem is - it doesn't always work, sometimes it will go down like that and sometimes it won't, sometimes it doesn't back away nicely like that and just keeps coming at you

would love to know if:

-damage of that initial charged shot is random (if not, what does it depend on)

-boss movement is random or not (same question)

Any strikers 1945 players here? I'm curious which the best and worst ships are?

>>135730251

ah, he moved before the jingle!

good, now I know what to do with the second movement pattern

I take no speed powerups and that fucks me up with this boss - I need to have him figured out and controlled 100%, don't want want to change my strategy to faster movement, because I'm quite used to it.

>>135730442
Which game are you talking about?

>>135730846
Not him, but I'd guess Strikers 1945, senpai.

>>135730946
That's why I was curious to see which of the series I'm talking about. But if you want to know, based on my experience flying with all of them, I have to say that the P-51 is pretty good.

https://my.mixtape.moe/mfjgkw.webm
This sure beats spending 8 hours.

>>135731640
Is that the one with the cheese it shield?

>>135730442
It seems a lot of people use the one with homing shots, the bf-109, because it's charge shot tears thru bosses very well

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>>135731640

>Any strikers 1945 players here?

>Which game are you talking about?

>strikers 1945

>>135731942
Yep that's it.
>>135732106
Of course I got confused. I wasn't too sure if he was referring to the first game or the second game.

>>135732489
Why would you assume the second when he clearly stated the first? Strikers 1945 is literally called Strikers 1945 and Strikers 1945 2 is literally called Strikers 1945 2 lel.

>>135732082
That's what im currently using yeah so il guess i'l stick with. Great game and that second loop is pretty brutal gonna go for the 2-all.

>>135731640
>I have to say that the P-51 is pretty good.
Really? I always had better luck with the Spitfire.
I mean, I'm awful, but still. I'll try out the P-51 more when I'm done with Kamui.

>>135730442
Bf-109 is very good at killing bosses as mentioned, it has good firepower at any range and you can dodge to anywhere on the screen without losing out on damage with your charge shot dishing it out. P-51's charge shot releases a slow projectile that cancel bullets, which is very good for survival and can be used to cheese difficult patterns.

The four other ships are decent, but generally harder to use than those two.

>>135732831
GL, that second loop is something

>>135730251

actually, he did have luck upon closer inspection

not on the first attack, but then the boss backed away nicely to be pounded from afar

it happens that the fucker just keeps chasing you from left to right and if he fires the wrong boulder at the wrong time, you have no chance of dodging

>>135731781
https://my.mixtape.moe/ecoimp.webm
And a part 2 of glorious earrape.
I should go back to espgal.

>>135733821
Thanks, My pb is currently 2-4.

>>135733747
I think il continue with the bf-109 then as i don't like the idea of cheesing it with some faggy shield.

He actually did it, the absolute madman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG1p5F4QgSQ

>>135735527
>Type-Z'
Call him a casual.

>>135735610
Are there clears of that mode with out type z?

>>135736841
The super replays say yes, there are.

>>135732697
For some reason I thought of the PlayStation version of Strikers 1945 2 where and the US version where it doesn't even say that it's the second game. That's where my confusion comes from. Don't ask how that happened.

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New PB in G-darius, could haveve been 49mil but I screwed up on GT and lost several million due to dying and missing the final counter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ORrP0NKEI

Posting some new Len'en 4 webms, showcasing the "Bullshit-tier" spells. All of these are probably impossible without upgrades or bombing (save for the first one.)
https://my.mixtape.moe/xjhelh.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/hgcxmq.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/jjuvvm.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/auuccu.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/itohcc.webm
And the bullshit award goes to https://my.mixtape.moe/ffxgdj.webm, for being a hidden survival spell that I'm pretty sure JynX made to fuck with us. It can't be this hard on the actual game.

>>135738517
Good shit, man. What's the record in G?

>>135738873
WR is by L2A-大明神, 56.069.500

>>135738517
Gz

>>135739405
I'm assuming there's a replay up on NND?

I should really make an account on that site one of these days.

>>135741041
Nicozon.net exists.

>>135741041
The only good Omicron replay you'll find is the Haruka replay, which is on YT as well (55.3M)

>>135634385
>Deathsmiles just started

>>135729817
Psst

I think I have a spare key

>>135729817
>I heard Jamestown has bad dev support
It does. It's had a bug in it for a while now that makes it rather difficult to play, and the only fix has been to roll back to a previous version. If the bug doesn't affect you, however, it's a good game.

>>135733954
>>135730251
>>135730043
>>135729504
>>135728472
>>135723157

ok, when I abandon my strategy of not ever taking speed powerups, I can fly circles around the fucker with relative ease and kill him four out of five times

still what happens in those videos is quite rare, makes me think there's some exploit to force it to move a certain way

>>135748967
I'd love to be more help, but I suck at horis in general and I can't even find anything on stage 5 strats, not even on la granja.

>tfw again too drunk to play shmups
This has to stop...

>>135752337
just play drunk

>>135752337
You're making ZUN sad, anon.

>>135752337
But anon that's how are shmups meant to be played.

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>>135757651

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>>135757651
Gradius Syndrome?

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>>135753385
>>135753937
Drunk play in progress! The skipped over moment had some pretty cool dodges, actually.

>>135759775
Keep it up anon. If you don't want to mess up with webm making, just upload to any .moe uploader or something..

>>135760993
The "WebM for Bakas" tool makes the... making easy per se, it's just that I can't even record most things without having this stuttering.

I'm also aware that I should not have focused so the aim of the lens wouldn't have been away from me.

>>135761685
Hmm... What do you use for recording?

>tfw no savestates in futanari

>>135763494
At least the practice mode lets you start at bosses.

>>135762564
OBS, following the instructions from the internet so at 60 fps. The obvious solution would be to record at a lower framerate I suppose but I have been loath to drop it.

Also this is hilarious in my opinion, recorded some time ago when I didn't care about playing for score or being good. Imagine doing this properly and then getting this lucky at the end.

https://my.mixtape.moe/crkpye.webm

>>135763768
But not midbosses.
I wish there was a law forcing all developers to put at least 3 checkpoints per stage in their practice modes.

>>135764247
Don't lower framerate, lower resolution. Mine don't get much of a stutter, but too many bullets screw it over.
https://my.mixtape.moe/wrqomn.webm An example. I got really lucky with the last one. The slowdown sometimes isn't enough.
That luck on the last photo was godlike though.

>>135764378
How good is your PC? My toaster won't cut it, but you could try getting some savestates in MAME. I did that for Mushi1 when I needed to grind a part.

>>135759678
No seriously, explain this.

>>135764657
I'll see what I can do next time I'm recording, gotta get playing now though.

Len'en has some spooky patterns.

>>135765745
>Powerup Syndrome
>Also known as Gradius Syndrome or R-Type Syndrome, this is a type of game where the difficulty is drastically connected to how powered up the player is. If the player has high to maximum power, then the game is generally very easy but if they lose their power then the game becomes incredibly difficult to finish. Although many games could technically fit this description as losing powerups generally makes a game harder, it is the fact that the game becomes almost impossible to continue on due to respawning at a difficult location with no ability to defend against the enemy onslaught.

>>135765746
Good Luck anon!

Yeah it does... Len'en 4 isn't balanced at all and the ABEX's are just Extra stages with Ultra patch on them... It's still pretty good. If you want to stick to Touhou-likes and want a fresh start, Len'en's alright I guess.

>>135765443
Savestates are sort of broken in Mushi 1 but they'll work for a while. In Futari if you try to load a state the game just completely shits itself.

The only thing that annoys me is when I screw up a part I'm trying to get down and then it's just like 'well, I've got to wait another 3 minutes before I can try it again'. Then that happens repeatedly and it wears you down after a while.

>>135765917

True that R-type is impossible when you lose your pods, but it's not "generally very easy" by a long shot. It's also a great game and I never get tired of it, I just consider a single death to be the end of it and your extra lives are just one of the many ways the developers fuck with you with their twisted sense of humor.

>>135766172
Oh, I didn't know what savestates were fucked up in Futari. That's a bit retarded.

>>135767751
It might have just been the version of MAME I was using, but it didn't like it at all. It seems to work a little better in vanilla MAME.

>>135771147
Man, Truxton has some great-ass art

https://a.pomf.cat/xwqidt.webm

man I wish I was good.

>>135775819
It's finally loading for me.

>>135775819
I know it's mean but I like videos like this because they help me realize I'm really not THAT bad all things considered

Don't worry anon, it'll come in time

>>135775819
How long have you been playing?

>>135775819
>rotating options
What is this?

>>135778907
Like, a couple weeks now.

>>135778919
DoDonPachi DaiOuJou. Good game, you should give it a shot.

>>135779724
How often do you play, and do you ever credit feed?

>>135775819
It looks like you got distracted by the red bullets there and forgot where the blue ones were headed.
I'd recommend using something other than Leinyan anyway since her C shot is so weak, it gives you practically no coverage at low power.

>>135779821
I play like a couple times a week, and sometimes.

>>135775819
Laser is bad, either go shota or take exy if you don't mind losing out on bombs

Another thing I noticed. As a general rule of thumb, you should go after larger enemies first as they're likely to be more of a threat. I notice at several times you abandon the larger enemies to go shoot some popcorn off to the side, which 9 times out of 10 is going to place you at more risk than finishing off the big guy first.

>>135775819
If you're going to choose the laser doll instead of the shot or shot+laser dolls, you should definitely be using the laser more. Keep in mind that you do "aura damage" while using the laser, so popcorn (little enemies that die in one shit) will not affect you.
You also don't seem to have much of a plan in mind, it feels like you're trying to wing it. When you're credit feeding are you paying attention to where enemies spawn, and which ones you should be dealing with first?

>>135781481
>that die in one shit
Ouch

>>135775819
Lol, B-L is my jam for WL.

>>135775819
wish i still had some videos when i first started playing shmups with touhou
you'll get better, just keep playing and learning

>>135784460
God I remember when I first started playing shmups. Good old Aegis Wing. I body slammed into those mine-walls so many times because I was a fucking moron.

bump fragment

>>135726025
I don't get it.

rip

evens ddp odds guwange

>>135796223
You should stream Guwange

>>135796494
nah man, i havent even played the game myself
just watched the stg weekly last night and got interested in it

>>135796826
I wasn't expecting you to get the world record on your first attempt, anon.

Graze page 10

STG Weekly for Deathsmiles is really interesting

Good night, /shmupg/. May I dream of good scores.

Bump out of page 10.

>>135818927
I'm late play this. Is it still possible to get DS chars?

>>135819623
Possible but there's no telling how long it'd take. Rosa and Follett have a few cards floating around in most of the gachas, so you could pull those if you get quite lucky, but other than that it just depends on when they decide to run Deathsmiles events with those cards as prizes.

>>135705354

I'm starting practice now, /shmupg/. Just wanted to tell you know.

>>135823905
>tell you know
Maybe I shouldn't start yet.

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SPS is streaming DOJ again!

>>135823905
>>135823964
Good luck anon! Don't forget to post progress and ask for tips whenever you need them!

>>135823964
don't worry, being dyslexic won't stop you from getting good at shmups

>>135824809
I hope not.

I just found a way to make a really tricky part much easier. Can't believe I didn't think of it before.

>>135824960
I have that every day, it's one of the reasons why I have fun routing each game I play. It's like a puzzle I put together piece by piece.

http://metal.koramgame.co.jp/

Does playing shmup on your phone improve your skill?

>>135828207
Technically, with mobile shmups you git gud by adapting to shitty controls. I don't think it has much impact on real play skill.

Anyone remember shmup where you can build your own level/boss? It was on pc

>>135829646
Fraxy

>>135829753
Thanks

The worse I play in Garegga, the bigger chances I have to beat it. This game is really weird.

>>135832541
Now you know why the game is so liked by casual players and farmers.

>>135832849
I wouldn't say the game is easy, but if you just constantly die while scoring decently, the game really becomes easier, than if you would just no miss half of the game.

>>135832541
Rank control~

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>>135833071
That's really shitty design and I have no idea why people laud Garegga so much.

Trying to make webms with ffmpeg
I have two versions of VLC, and a test webm I made only works with the more recent one. In the older one it's all scrambled. All the other webms I got from here work in both of them. What did I do wrong?

>>135836558
Are you using VP9 instead of VP8, maybe?

>>135836865
Yeah if I leave it blank VLC tells me it can't decode it. I assume because it defaults to VP8

Ah, I found out I have to put -c:v libvpx, leaving it out must have been what made it fuck up.

>>135835808
It's basically the only thing I dislike about the game, that you constantly have to suicide. Otherwise the game is just awesome though.

>>135838160
Yeah. I'm not used to the idea of killing myself to make the game easier to be honest.

Rosa from Deathsmiles is like Type Z from CCWI? Because playing with her is basically easymodo if you don't enter Death Mode (suicide bullets). The lock-on shot needs some time to get used to, but I experienced more slowdown with it than with the laser shot.

>>135845619
I thought Sakura in MBL was the Type-Z.

>>135849983
Einhander is a cool game.

>>135634385
So, /shmupg/, what's your favorite controller for SHMUPS?

Fight stick, keyboard, pad eugh, or DDR dance pad?

>>135852870
Pad or keyboard depending on game

In that Kenta Cho game that plays a little differently depending on your inputs I actually liked mouse and keyboard

>>135845619
I disagree, since she's quite slow and the option movement on the outer characters kinda sucks. Follett has some strengths too, namely the strength of her option's laser and her lock-on slows the game to a crawl.

>>135852870
Arcade stick

>>135852870
Afterglow gamepad. It's comfortable in my fat hands, and the dpad doesn't suck like a regular 360 pad.

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>>135852870
>Fight stick

>>135855595
>not using a shmup stick

>>135852870
mouse

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This is a luckdodge

>>135856186
There isn't any other way to dodge this though.

>>135856715
True, it's very ridiculous

Hey there again shmupg. Do you really think "touhou is harder"? or it's just a meme?

>>135856186
And someone dared to argue with me when i said danmaku lends itself more to luck dodging than classic shmups,
>>135711815
observe webm you fucking dildo.

>>135858349
Different strokes for different folks and little else. Most unforgiving shmups tend to be from CAVE due to their patterns sometimes being impossible to dodge if you're still a human being. The only way Touhou is on par with that is probably with Ultra Patches. Touhou focuses on patterns that you can actually dodge instead of just bombing everything in your way.

>>135858349
It's just a symbolic statement that spun out of control.

If you want a real answer then ask someone who has both Touhou lunatic 1ccs and CAVE/Psikyo 2-ALLs.

>>135858349
Better question is. Why are people are that Touhou is a pattern simulator when they are shitload of RNG spellcards in it.

>>135858349
Compared to what? DDP games' first loops? Gradius in its first loop? Sure, depending on personal skill and preference. Deathsmiles vanilla? Maybe, depending on if you go all level 3's and do the EX stage. Psikyo 2-alls? Inbachi? No.

>>135859983
*people saying

>>135845619
>>135853989
Rosa's familiar is of little consequence when there are no suicide bullets because her own laser is so strong and with such awesome spread, she basically covers half the screen horizontally when she's firing. Besides that, her familiar's shot can be moved in mid-fire anyways.

Follett and Rosa might actually have been made as opposites of sorts. Rosa has a really strong laser, and Follett's familiar has a really strong laser.

>>135847068
Sakura is almost certainly the best character for tackling suicide bullets because of her two-familiar wall, but I'm not sure how strong her shots are.

>>135859983
>>135860305
I have no idea. Touhou isn't much of a puzzle game, though it has more static spellcards than RNG ones. Overall, shitposters or people that really hate Touhou spew that sort of garbage.
I rarely have come across a genuinely bad shmup.

>>135858758
It took about 8 minutes and 10-15 attempts before I got a successful dodge. Try it yourself and see if you can beat me. If you get one successful attempt in under 8 minutes I'll concede to your victory.

>>135852870
Fightstick

Guys, i'm pretty high rigth now and i just had a thought. Is there a reverse-shmup where you try to absorb as many bullets as possible instead of dodging them? Would it be fun to play such a game?
I know about polarity mechanic from Ikaruga — there you still need to dodge some bullets.

>>135866385
You kinda have to absorb bullets with your shield in Samidare to win.

>>135866385
>Would it be fun to play such a game?
No, since there would be no thread which could kill you.

>>135868484
Bumping into enemies and obstacles would kill you. Or not absorbing bullets for some period of time.

>>135870873
So, Indestructo Tank, but with planes?
I think you hooked something interesting here.

Beep Boop

Bumpo!

>>135878257
Reco a qt

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Yooo, big update.

50mil+ soon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z-OZGAGUxE

which garegga would u fug

>>135880132
black heart-chan

>>135879783
Keep shootin' for the stars anon!

>>135866385
It's all about execution. Ikaruga itself isn't bad, I just don't like memorizers and the scoring leaves very little leeway to freestyle. You'd have to incorporate the bullet absorbing into something, like a bomb meter or shot strength, and make a lot of popcorn trying to tackle you.

>>135859369
Getting lunatic 1ccs isn't even hard desu, scoring touhou is hard af and shit.

>>135881843
>>135883723
This.

anyone else normally play with a fightstick but play touhou with keyboard?
fightstick just feels so awkward with touhou for me

>>135885227
>fightstick
Can we stop this meme?

>>135885784
never

>>135885227
Yes, touhou's tiny taps and full micro dodging really doesn't work on stick.

>>135886248
Well ZUN apparently plays on pad which is even worse for micrododges.

>>135887315
Zun doesn't even play his games.

>>135887437
That explains LoLK

>>135887315
zun is also an alcoholic

>>135887437
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>135888321
my dad works at zun and he told me

>>135888321
Do you have a single fact to prove me wrong?

>>135888472
I'm not the one making claims. Burden of proof is on you.

>>135885784
Call them flighsticks instead!

>>135856186
>>135856715
>>135857319

seems to me that if you keep hanging out near the rightmost downmost area after 0:05, you can squeeze through some gaps upwards

having never played the game however, I might be talking out of my ass here

yo so i downloaded the mame version of ikaruga and the separate gcd, put it in the zip, and shmupmame won't recognize it

now what

>>135893421
Get the Steam release of Ikaruga, it's a good port and better than playing on MAME.

What's a babby's first 1cc? As a noob, I find it discouraging that every game kicks my ass horribly and it would do well for my overall morale if I could pick a game I can work for first and go at it until success. It should be an easy-ish game, but easy difficulties and novice modes don't count.

>>135894101
Ketsui. jk lmao

>>135894101
Easy difficulties and novice modes are made to be babby's first 1CC.

Other than that, I guess... Deathsmiles maybe. It's significantly easier than many shmups and the only difficulty spike is the final stage which is still relatively manageable compared to other shmups.

>>135894101
Touhou 6, 7 or 8, Deathsmiles, Blue Wish Resurrection+ or Jamestown for bullet hell shmups, M.U.S.H.A. Aleste, Sexy Parodius or Gekirindan for traditional. The thing is that even if they are on the easy side, they're still going to throw you around until you learn them.

Are you being attitude for gains anon

>>135894594
Touhou 10 might be alright for that too actually, it's pretty bomb-spammable.

>>135831463
what game is this?

>>135898658
Kanako's last spellcard might fuck him up though.

>>135899716
Well, gotta dodge a little.

What's the best way to play Mushihimesama for survival?

>>135906675
The best way? Get a comfortable chair and a snack

>>135906675
Just dodge the bullets nigga.
Unless you mean low-risk scoring tactics to help get you extends, in which case I cant help you there

>>135906953
>>135907565
Just choosing between modes, I guess I'll go with Normal but 1.5 has the best music.

Damn these threads don't last long don't they?

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So my impressions as a Touhou tard: compared to Touhou Mushihimesama seems to be about visualising the trajectories of bullets, how each enemy shoots, and then maneuvering out of the way of these trajectories. You don't need to look at the bullets themselves as much, just to know ahead how each enemy is going to shoot, and have a plan. It's a very different, much more involved experience. The world of Cave is exciting. Also I feel right at home controlling a girl.

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>tfw date with cute uni girl went well

But it feels like I'm betraying /jp/ or something. D-doushio!?

>>135914898
fuck off, dumb /jp/ poster.

>>135906675
>>135908098
For original, 1.5 is probably the easiest. For maniac and ultra it's probably best to go with 1.0.

>>135914898
You already betrayed /jp/ by crossboarding. You'll get used to it. I did!

>>135914898
You are being a fucking normie, but it's ok. But don't use this as your fucking diary ffs.

I really want to like shmups, but every time I play them I get reminded of how shit I am.
I always feel like stuff is physically impossible for me to dodge and it's just fucking demotivating.

>>135922186
How long have you been playing? When I first started, it took me a month straight to 1cc a Touhou game, and that's when I was NEET.

>>135922732
I started in December and played them for about 2 months before getting frustrated, got two 1ccs.
Now I'm trying to get into it again but every game I try feels ultra-fast and I have trouble reading bullets unless it's white on black like Gradius.

>>135923841
3 months isn't too long. I'm entering my 3rd year in playing shmups and I still get overwhelmed. Just gotta keep moving forward with the goal of always improving.

What are your 1cc's?

>>135922186
That's what everyone been through. Just don't give up, take it easy. Someday you'll break the wall.
If you need motivation watch high-score player streams and see how they keep restarting the same stage on and on.

>>135917393
I've just cleared Normal Original... Stages were OK but in fact I had to bomb on the bosses, I don't know why they are so hard, much harder than the stages. I found 1.5 Original to be pretty difficult psychologically since I kept trying to play for score but the feeling was awesome, too much autistic memorisation though.

>>135922186
If you keep challenging yourself with something that's a little out of your comfort zone you will improve steadily, also understand that some games are NOT designed to be fair and perhaps cannot be cleared without committing everything to memory.

>>135924729
>Stages were OK but in fact I had to bomb on the bosses, I don't know why they are so hard, much harder than the stages
This is entirely normal. Don't beat yourself up too much man, if you're not playing for score it's unimportant, and even if you are it's much more important to no-miss in Normal Original.

>>135925778
I understand, I'm in a bad mood is all, at slow progress in my main game with RL issues piling up preventing me from dedicating the time. Certainly though, I would like to post progress instead of more whining, so I'll keep it at that.

>>135924365
>>135924615
>>135925076
Well thanks for the encouraging words and advice. I'll keep them in mind.
I have this tendency of pushing myself too hard and getting frustrated as a result so I guess I'll just try to take it slowly and make smaller steps. Getting good at a game feels really great after all.

>What are your 1cc's?
Mushihimesama Original and SNES Gradius 3 on hard.

>also understand that some games are NOT designed to be fair
From what I can tell, this is especially the case with older shmups.

Also I hate bombing

>>135927317
>Mushihimesama Original and SNES Gradius 3 on hard.
Well you seem to be making good progress, Gradius 3 is hard as fuck.

>>135928843
>Gradius 3 is hard as fuck.
Maybe the arcade but the SNES version is like a completely different game.
And unlike the arcade, it feels entirely fair and is probably the least frustrating shmup I've played.
I also really like Cho Ren Sha for the same reasons but the stage 6 boss is just way too fast for my reaction time so I'm stuck. I was making such good progress too, I think that was my biggest demotivator.

>>135930146
>but the stage 6 boss is just way too fast for my reaction time
Which part is giving you trouble? Is it >>135642164

>>135930396
Yep, exactly. 0:15 is about the farthest I've reached.

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>save state practicing final bosses
>finally starting to make real progress
>realizing that 1cc maybe isn't actually that far off
shmups are fun

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>Haven't played DBCS in weeks
>Getting my ass whipped by Hyper Jaw

>>135931070
For that part you want to be right underneath him, after that it's as simple as just lightly moving left.

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Is anyone playing anything obscure or unconventional?

I'm working on a 1cc of an old Mac OS9 shareware game I played as a kid called Woden, I didn't have it registered so I could only play the first stage and I wouldn't have been able to clear it anyways so I figured it would be fun to go back and see if I can finish it 18 years later now that it's abandonware and I actually know how to play shmups.

I remember this game blowing my fucking mind as a kid, I was used to clones of galaga and space invaders so I had never seen anything with actual bullet density

>>135934798
I've been playing Kaikan off and on for the past few weeks and telling some others to play it. Here before long I might see about recording a webm or two if I think my old laptop can do it without catching fire.

Mechrichter is streaming Raiden Fighters Jets. I normally know him as a speedrunner.

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>>135939438
Yeah, you can move and scale the play area freely.