/domg/ - Dominions General

First for Niefel went AI, bringing us down to three players.

First for big giant dicks.

>>135301495
Einhere, Vans and Skinshifters are all solid troops. You don't really need Prod.

>communion leader with a path other than astral
Blood random Galderman.

>>135302309
Uh, great, wow. Is it Van the other one who's left non-AI?

>>135302409
Or second, whatever.

Either way, big giant dicks.

>>135302447
>Blood random Galderman.

Sure, but the Volva seem really out of place.

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Reminder that frogs are cute

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>>135302807

>>135301779
Pros- new name for general, new pic, new link

Cons- boring link and pic

>>135302754
> game for virgins
> volva seems out of place

Checks out

>>135302807
That's a little girl, no a frog.

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>>135303393
Well a god that likes frogs a lot. And controls snakes as well.

>>135303053
I like the pic.

I liked the elephant whisperer better than the positioning link, though.

>>135303053
>>135303684
I think it would be nice to have a different educational link every thread. Although I'm afraid we'll run out of gud guides in a week or so.

>>135303053

I dunno, that pic pretty much sums up my dominions experience.

>>135304018
mine too: mistakes or stuff that could be improved, accentuated by RNG being a bitch

When you're wiping and keep getting poop on every wipe, do you ever give up or do you just dedicate yourself to using half the roll?

>>135305054
Learn to wipe properly you scrub, don't just smear the poop around.

>>135305054
l2bidet

>>135305869
I wish bidets were more common in America.

>>135305054
I just go under the shower after I shit.

remove giants

https://youtu.be/Q7CA1pKTJxY

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>>135302507
It is I

May my memes never run dry

Two modding questions which come to mind after reading the MA Man discussion in previous thread.

Is it possible to:
1) give a unit philosopher ability with negative value? Man has monks and while Ora et Labora motto was specifically a Benedictine thing, focus on manual labor, study and general productivity was common to pretty much all western monastic movements.
2) make a unit recruitable only when a province has a specific scale? I know Ragha does it with some mages and Zhayedans (Heat/Cold), but I'm thinking about Knights of Avalon and Magic. Them being forest recruit in summod is kinda dumb, considering they're riding on fucking unicorns and it's not magic-creatures-everywhere EA. Having unicorns in every forest means that your forests are, well, magical.

Hey, how do we all feel about Perpetual Storm to ground some Bats. Thinking about casting it in retaliation for AC, want to know if anyone will mind.

(Can't cast it yet, but for when I do if AC is still up)

>>135305972
They are not common here in Germany either, but I bought one off amazon for 50 bucks. Installation took 20 minutes.

>>135306526
Philosopher ability?

>>135306526
1. You can't give a unit Philosopher to begin with. It's not a modding command.

2. Only works with hot/cold scales.

>>135306538
Perpetual Storm is perfect since it's obviously and strongly much worse for bats than anyone else, but also reduces income worldwide which is good for Lemuria relative to everyone else.

>>135306526
1)I'm not sure, would be a cool idea to try, I'll have a look asap.
2) Summod has a grudge with MA Man, due to it having some really fucking weird preprogrammed tags stopping recruitment being changed much. That sort of magic - recruit is possible the same way Therodos 's scaling recruit is possible in Summod, I think sum1won will really like your idea.

>>135307073
1. I'm pretty sure you can. Some natgen nations have it. It's #slothresearch <value>.
2. That's a shame.

>>135306538

That would be quite hilarious. Good luck getting the caster to live through Astral Corruption though.

Er, wait, if you have an immortal unit cast a Global, does it not dispel if they "die"?

>>135307454
Th-thanks.

>>135307817
It only dispels if the one lucky strike feebleminds them over every other affliction.

More on point, the overcast will need to be very high to compete with the blood globals it might bounce on.

>>135306538
Please don't I need my cash.

>>135308071
Won't Kurgi ruin you?

>>135308097
And my precision.

>>135308135
I'll cast it underwater with a mage I empower in water too.

Last time Kurgi got into a fight with one my W3s underwater holding a water bottle, the winner was not Kurgi.

>>135308258
I mean the feebleminded thing.

>>135308258
Kurgi is kinda weird in power.

>>135308578
>kurgi
>kinda weird

>>135308340
the chance of feeblemind is incredibly small, since any of the lemurs die pretty much instantly so they rarely get afflicted at all.

I'm worried about it hitting the Blood Vortex or AC slot though and failing because I can't overcast by 999

>>135308258
>>135308135
Water elementals are absolutely murderous against horrors underwater, if mage can spam them he can kill doom horrors.

Probably not maker of ruin though.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=wittymemename
Useless waiting 2.0
As always map and thrones are placeholders and will be changed accordingly when the game starts (no longer on a time schedule)

>>135303684
>>135304018
Still salty m8

>>135308258
Please tell me you didn't cripple Kurgi, I want him as a pet.

>>135310430
You can't keep him.

Rapturous and EdibleGloves guys do your turns ;__;

>>135310532
Yes I can, I just need to empower him in nature and make him transform into something else.

Or I could just put him in a 10 dom province so he goes insane.....

>>135310692
Kurgi the lobster.

>>135309484
Not sure if you're admin, but I think I have a pretender I'm happy with.

>>135310692
Holy shit you're a mad genius.

>>135310430
Different game. Kurgi walked in on one of my mages of the deep in gopherholes, and did not walk out (encase in ice spam OP)

Hey Letsmakesum1happy Xibalba, are you still so sure you'll easily wipe out the spoopy ghosts now that they're literally 4 times your size?

Don't way I didn't warn you. This is the grave you chose.

>>135310692
Given that he has a high chance of breaking free right away, you might need to resummon him multiple times.

>>135310972
>>135310997
>>135311069
It's either that or empower them all in water and give them water gems.

>>135311342
You do know Mari is literally 1 throne from winning the game right?

Is LA Ulms shitty expansion the price they pay for their research and lategame?

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Halt citizens of Ermor, I claim this thread in the memory of First Citizen of Ermor. Pay your dues to Caesar

>>135311989
What shitty expansion?

>>135311989
They got crossbows and zweihanders, they're fine

>>135311989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeDyJYoHXt0
That should be the next threadly educational link.

>>135312057
>pontificus maximus
>not h3

>>135312220
I would pay attention to this guys videos if they wren't 30 mins long

>>135311989

SCRUB
C
R
U
B

Sale when?

>>135312552
You sure about playing Dominions? As Ulm?

>>135311520
You know he's being gangbanged from three sides right?

>>135313073
not the guy who asked the question about ulm. I just hate how his videos always turn into a long rambling mess when he can teach us the important stuff in 5mins or less

>>135312812
Thursday

>>135313401
Source?

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>>135306538

As one of the..two? non-bat nations left in the game that needs cash, I don't want this to happen. I may be outvoted though.

>>135313587
Damn, they took "Read the memes" out of the OP

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>>135313634

Shouldn't you have absolutely absurd income between Nature's Bounty and Well of Misery?

>>135313347
That's true. I like his rambling though.

Blitzserver Third Test starts and Helheim and Nief are about to stale the first turn.

I think we can conclude - these tests have proved people are too stupid to realize there's a different port after the game starts and they have to input a new port, and emails for pretenders should be mandatory (as well as a game-start email).

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>>135313916

I currently have slightly more income than bats, but the margin between you, bats, and me, is not large. With your gem income and freespawn, it's not even really a competition. Mictlan's blood economy looks equally impressive (Although he kills like 10 of my scouts a turn so it's hard to have a proper picture). Actually I think i'm the only one left in the game who needs gold, i'm sure mict could just run off slaves at this point. :doomed:

>>135312220
He's a great player, but those were some seriously weak indies for LA.

>>135314767
He had a lot of luck with resources and province connections as well.

Honestly, 15 provinces with such start with no players or even AI to block you is really really mediocre so it doesn't actually go against "Ulm has mediocre expansion" statement.

>>135314324
Hello.
Also we're ending up in a weird pattern of sending each other two turns worth of stuff in one go, then missing a turn.

>TFW they discover you've sent Bane Venom scouts into their lands

Good thing I'm fucking huge.

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>>135315540

I'm staling and/or doing hurried turns is why. Turns out maintaining a trade relationship requires remembering to send gems to person! Also our triangular trade system needs to resume.

>>135318538
It does, though I'm not sure Lemuria needs much at the moment.

>>135318764

Doesn't he just need infinite death gems forever.

moggers can you put a delay on Third Test, arco and nief are going to stale turn 1.

>>135319094
What is it with /domg/ and people staling turn 1 and onwards?

>>135318764
I can use pearls and death gems, or blood slaves.

I have around 50 earth gems for trade and a lot of air gems (my air gem per turn remains higher than death).

EdibleGloves Arco, do you turn!

>>135322012

I'm sorry it took so long for me as well. Fell asleep while waiting for clarification on the map issue.

>>135321295
I used all my blood slaves, though if you want me to do high blood crafting I can do that for you, B9 pretender has many benifits.

>>135322221
I wouldn't object to a sanguine dowsing rod or two, would definitely save me the time. My blood eco, surprise surprise, is still really weak. Kind of hard to set up as Lemuria.

>>135322221
>B9 as Rlyeh
Whattafuck

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LA Ulm Black Templar build

>>135322110
Just remember to be kind to me :^)

>>135323028
Your bless is for shrouded vamps

>>135322780
I have 0 slaves, I was offering if you've got slaves but say wanted the Armour of souls so you didn't have to empower up to 4 to do the booster production chain.
>>135322962
YES, TRIBLESS R'LYEH.

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>>135323126
That works too. Mostly it makes your expansion much more reliable and your early game army tougher to crack. You can count on Black Templars more than crossbows, and you're more likely to win any collisions with other players.

16 provinces year 1, including a throne.

Would have been 19 provinces except for some really bad luck with a commander getting sniped.

>>135323276
yeah, I'll be interested in that eventually, but currently I'm on the B1 part of that chain so it will be awhile.

>>135323821
Well, depends what maximum B you want, me making the 6B booster starts the path at 3, and also making the 5B one starts it at 2.
If something has two bodies I could make the nature/blood armour.

>>135323407
Also it's worth mentioning that I didn't lose a single black templar during expansion, leaving me with an army of 41 of them.

Quickly scrape together some crossbow support and you have an intimidating army going into year 2.

>>135323407
I always wanted to do that but it's entierly a suboptimal way to play I'm sure.
>>135323126
What for? Vampires can raid already and I really doubt they are survivable enough to be thugs.

>>135325118
>they are survivable enough to be thugs
They have invulnerability not to mention all the death and blood buffs in the later game.

>>135323123
You don't need kindness from the fakesnake. On the other hand, the frogs might be a problem for you.

>>135323028
I just threw up a little in the back of my throat.

seriously though, no gold scales, what are you even doing as LA ulm?

>>135309484
I think we should accept the fact that we're not going to have 16 players. 8-10 and we should start.

is standardEAgame Admin hanging around?

>>135323028
>-1 Mis
>No Magic

Ok I'm officially triggered

>>135309484
We may be some time redoing Man from the ground up I didn't realise whoever did the warhammer mod was bloody brilliant and so am canibalising his code for some witchery.
So I'd start before then, but do use the latest version or some shit will happen.

>>135326753
Speaking of, which is the best 40K mod?

>>135326963
There's 40k mods?

>>135326963
>>135327038
meant Warhammer, but if there are 40K mods sign me up

>>135326014
I need kindness from everybody, I'm a huge scrub

>>135327159
No clue, I only knew they existed before now, not that he'd done things which aren't noted as possible anywhere else in the modding community. Specifically making three buff spells which are mutually exclusive but different in Bretonnias case. You're probably not as excited by this as I am.

>>135306526
You should be able to just add/subtract research values through researcher bonus.
Just like Onis have negative research.
The mod commands currently allow only heat/cold changes.

EdibleGloves Arco do your damn turn I want to play REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>135329017
Could you learn a bit how to mod? It doesn't take long to pick up the basics, and it'd allow you to help out while waiting for turns.

>>135329017

They're busy being confused at their LA nation not having crossbows, and only having three mages.

>>135332290
>LA
>Not having crossbows

Just for the first 7 res crossbow province you find.

>>135332290
they have armored elephants. expansion should have zero problems

>>135331976
Not really my thing I'm afraid

>>135332290
I'm currently in 2 games (and 2 that are waiting to start) but it's taking forever since there's always 1-2 guys that finish their turns 12 hours after everybody else.

>>135333619
Don't worry then, just generally suggesting it as anons here have lots of good ideas (okay also lots of bad ones) and having some offered up as code/ways to do specific things that isn't straightforward would be cool.

>>135333921
I don't have any experience in coding and it doesn't really interest me. Spending the time playing King of Dragon Pass and browsing /domg/ (although I should be sending job applications, but I've been doing that for almost a year now)

http://blitzserver.net/matches/view/91
Arcosophele, Niefelheim, don't fucking do this to me.

>>135334881
Do keep sending job applications, you'll get a foot on the ladder some day, just have to keep trying.

>>135332290
I mean pythium took his turn, god knows that nation is more confusing?

>>135334881
Orlanthi Nation when?

>>135335419
When it becomes remotely possible to model Orlanthi magic in Dominions.

>>135335419
Literally Marverni.

>>135335419
W Y C I
H O O T
E U D
N ! E

>>135335237
I do, but not as often as I should. Things are pretty horrific when it comes to getting work in my country (especially in my city) since the unemployed populace (of adults who aren't of retiriment age) is over 10% and rising which leads to every single job, even the shittiest ones, getting dozens of applications.

>>135335419
Well the Orlanthi would be pretty similar to EA Ulm except for the mythos. They'd also have to be almost completely buff-based magic wise (they'd also have to be able to do rituals that boost income, remove afflictions etc.)

>>135333270

I was trying to be facetious. But yeah, elephants are nice. I miss Machaka.

>>135335297

I am Pythium.

>>135336041
Could be worse, could be greece. Tailoring CV is possible may help, as in such situations there's going to be a lot of people using the same one again and again, even a small nod towards the role you're applying for helps, yes even if it's flipping burgers.

>>135335419
The events would be the best

>Your entire nation has been destroyed by enraged dragonewts

>>135336663
Your CV isn't that important (meaning the looks/tailoring part), the businesses only care about work experience in the job you're looking for, and even if you happen to have that you're gonna spend a lot of time unemployed because there will also be several other people with experience applying for it. I have several friends who both had experience and studied for the job, and still had to send over a hundred applications before getting work (and most of those didn't even end up getting work in their field). Basically to get a start you need to get incredibly lucky, or have connections through parents that can get you a job.

>>135337287
By "possibly may help" I meant "the only thing which you can do to very slightly help". It's a roulette wheel basically, was just trying to give some minor positive.

>>135337138
>conquer swamp province from indies
>next turn all your provinces are invaded by insanely strong duck armies

>>135337287
>Never had a job
>Didn't go to uni
>Manage to land an interview doing my literal dream job
>Flunk the interview because I'm so damn nervous.
Just kill me. I hope the socialists win so I can just live off of the state.

>>135337534
How old are you? It's not like there isn't time to start trying for your dream job.

>>135337534
I'm applying to uni this year for the second time (and will probably/hopefully get in) but I still need a job since I live on my own.

>>135325457
There's not much that they can beat with an N9 bless+shroud that they can't beat with normal body armor. They don't have the HP to fight anything that can deal damage to them, and they already are resilient enough to beat PD with some minimal gear.

>>135337534
It's cool. I've managed to do this 4 times now.

WOOOO ARCO ACTUALLY MADE HIS TURN GODS BE PRAISED

>>135337719
Good luck anon.
>>135338548
Fifth time lucky, you can do it!

Been working full time for five years. It's a dull sort of pain.

>>135322012
Dont worry I made myself AI

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>>135301779
Probably the funniest thing I've seen in this game so far.

>>135339706
Why would you go and do that?

>>135340338
The whole reason I joined was to go AI

>>135340545
I'd like to ask the same question again

>>135340695
I figured the AI might win the game and I could claim victory since I made the god

>>135340897
Post god

C'tis, are you still playing or are you going to chainstale to death?

There was an Arco that wen't AI in NoWeebs2.

Arco the new Ulm?

>>135342367
>wen't
>'
???

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>he wasn't kidding

What the fuck?

Why even join the game retard?

>>135310676
Rapturous people are in diff timezones so probably best to not expect more than 1-2 turns a day.

>>135343308
2 would be a blessing. So far it's less than 1 per day (first turn 2 people hadn't done their turn after 24 hours)

>>135343267
whelp, if I'm lucky I'll be next to him for some free chow.

>>135343485
The first turn is automatically set by the llamaserver to 48 hours (or something to that extent) to give people time to realize "hey the game started".

>>135343608
It better be me

>>135343626
Well it's still turn 3 after 3½ days

>>135343267

Because some people enjoy ruining a months-long experience for others.

He's an asshole, is what I'm trying to say.

Can we just like roll the turn back or restart with only 11 players? It's only turn 1 and we've waited this long for the game to start, I wouldn't mind waiting a little longer for a proper start.

>>135344365
Only if you give me enough time to rename my god

>>135344365
>>135345002
Imo we can still keep playing but if the majority wants a restart it's fine, although the same idiot can always do the same shit again.

>>135346387
Just restart, kick arco and start the game with 11 players. With an AI on the board it just means whoever happened to start next to him gets free expansion after the first year and most likely a free capital. It's kind of horseshit. If we were 7 turns deep and he went AI I'd say yeah, forget about it. But since it's only the first turn I think it's easy enough to just restart and kick him.

call out to EAgamestandard admin again

I'm fine with restarting. Don't matter to me.

>>135344365

Yeah, sure, restart.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=wittymemename
Map will not be riverlands no need to fear if that's why you aren't joining, it'll be some nice map for whatever player number we have.

Woo new turn

Okay, we're starting again without Arco this time.

>>135350217
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, rip expansion

holy shiiiitttt I hate modding ma man so much

>>135350721
>>135350217
I probably shouldn't tell this but this is just pissing me off too much. The expansion party led by my prophet attacked an indie province, nothing special, light militia, archers and a few light cavalry. My units were in 2 squads, the enemy cavalry and militia came at the first squad, the light cavalry died right away except for one which started routing, and my second squad decided to start chasing it instead of attacking the other enemies. This led to my first squad routing against the light militia (the light cavalry killed a few of them before dying) who in turn killed my prophet because the second squad was running across the battlefield chasing a single horse and thus died my prophet and his expansion party.

Shit, a dude told me to cast storm to stop enemies arrows, but just now i noticed there is a storm battle spell, then i casted perpetual storm.

>>135350394
>228 land provinces.
>Still starts bordering LA R'lyeh.

Today is not a good day to be a snake cultist.

>>135354078
Could be worse. Could have been 1000+ land provinces, and still bordering Therados.

What's this game about?

>>135354346

Claiming countries with the cunning use of flags.

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>>135354346
Memes

>>135354078
Just remember to be gentle to me if you're near me

>>135354346
It depends

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=wittymemename
shilling once more before sleep.
good night /domg/ stay beautiful

Yeah, Therodos, not happening. The island is mine. All of it.

>>135355683
The mini island?

Now that Jade Knifes are Mictlan only, how viable is domkill against low dominion neighbors for a dom9/10 bloodsac nation?

>>135354346
In short:
Divine Succession Crisis
In actuality:
Whining about OP spells and nations

>>135356005
>Jade Knifes are Mictlan only,
You can always wish for them :^)

>>135355760
Yeah.
I started on Japan basically. It's pretty sweet.

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>>135355683
Well if you feel strongly about it there may or may not be anything I can do about it. Just be aware that your island is surrounded by water and I am an aquatic nation.
>>135355760
There are quite a few islands but I won't spill the spaghetti yet in case Yomi decides to play nice. Just know I already got a province Yomi, up to you to decide whether it's a bad thing or a potential alliance.

http://blitzserver.net/matches/view/91
I'm going to un-start this game since Niefel and Arco are awol.

>>135357391
Here's hoping you can do something to stop Therodos from snowballing

>>135357485
Well there's really only 1 potential island for that (which he confirmed), there's 3 islands in the map, one of which is basically 2/3 of the land provinces and the other one is still big enough that it should have 2-3 players on it.

>>135357485
>>135357391
Also why haven't you made your turns? I'm getting withdrawals here what with Edible restarting and all (plus I must have my vengeance on the few indies that are left after killing my prophet)

>>135358105
I like to wait until there are five minutes left and then turn it in.

>>135358260
If you were Yomi I'd believe you

Why are Janvaldorf's sacreds so shit? On paper they seem like they should be pretty solid but it's not happening that way in practice.

>>135358710
Isn't it the flying fear dudes you want?

>>135358710
Post a picture of the sacred?

Is it cap-only, or rec-anywhere? How much does it cost?

>>135312057

Pedantry here, but Julius was very much not the first citizen of rome, and this was only a title taken up by Augustus so as to not have the same fate as Julius.

>>135358951
He was a lifetime dictator indeed

>>135326471

Shore. What's up?

>>135359076
Not him but are we waiting till we have 11 players before we start?

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>>135358861
Cap only, this is in an O2 province, they're pretty cheap at 30g. But still, it's a three attack cavalry with W9 bless. It should be able to do better than rout some archers and beat some weaker sacreds that were already softened up by flying PD. Shouldn't it?

Oh yeah heads up everyone, Janvaldorf gets flying PD.

>>135359154

That's the plan, but if yall want I can dig out an 8 person map and start nowish.

>>135359278
I'm fine with waiting, but if people want to start asap that's cool too. Doubt many of the players are browsing right now though

>>135359271
I see the guard of stars units, so I'm assuming you're Kyonai?

If you're using the longbowman like you should, they shouldn't be that much of an issue. Just don't try to check their DeF and you should be fine.

>>135351448
Hahahahjhaafsd I hope this was MP, I really do.

>>135356141
best part is that if Mictlan already made some, when you wish for it you don't make one, you STEAL one.

>>135359525
Of course I'm using longbows. He caught me by surprise by using actual basic tactics (he hadn't before) but if this is the strength of his units he's gonna be in for a hard time once I start doing that too. Hell, I might even start using magic soon.

>>135359271
Strength nine and seven attacks mean pretty much jack and shit. Anything with half-decent protection is functionally immune until fatigue builds up.

>>135359271
>poor protection
>poor damage
I dunno, that sounds about right.

It's only 3 attacks for the first hit, and even in T3 the quarterstaff only does 12 damage so that's pretty sad.

If it's fighting in O3 the quarterstaff does 6 damage and the lance does like 12 including charge bonus, so you only have one decent attack per cavalry.

If you can hold an extended melee fight they can start critting once enemies fail to hit enough times, but then you have to worry about archers ripping your 7 protection sacreds apart.

>>135359271
>Janvaldorf gets flying PD.
>all those militiamen
Just how much PD did he buy?

>>135360127
Enough that he could have bought a fort with the gold. It won him the battle though, and inflicted substantial casualties on me, so I guess it was a good deal for him? It's not a trade I would have made, but I guess he's better off taking a gold-for-gold loss and trying to defeat me before I start hitting research goals, since mine come first and once I get there he'll be at a substantial disadvantage until he hits Rain of Stones.

>>135359271
I mean, to be fair, they cost 24 gold under turmoil 3, which I imagine someone with Daeva is running. So it shouldn't be too surprising that they're not bullshit like lizard lawnmowers.

Ya know, if Seor could afford them anyway.

>>135360690
>Janvaldorf, a Hoburg Nation
>Casting Rain of Stones

I don't think he wants to do that unless he's suiciding the mage.

>>135357485
Ugh. Alright, what sort of prices can you offer me on magical wares?

>>135361140
Believing in yourself gives you 10 bonus prot against RoS

>>135359824
Are you seeing the actual fights? Like do your battle summaries match what happens by the end of the fight?

Cause every conflict I've had with you gives me mismatched reports. And most of my fights against indies have as well.

>>135361140
It would be costly to him but it would hurt me a lot. Actually, every option he has to deal with me is pretty costly to him, which is nice.

>>135361553
The one you commented on in the message I also got it wrong. I hadn't noticed any real accuracy problems before that and I didn't watch for every little detail in the latest one but it seemed broadly accurate.

Fish are friends, not food. Much better than icky ghosts. Everybody loves us. Just ask the mermen.

>>135362424
Also sneks. Sneks are friends.

http://blitzserver.net/matches/view/112
Need one more for blitz. Please enter the chat room.

>>135335230

There were two persistent stalers in the second test, too. My guess is it's just the same guy, putting in multiple pretenders. Require people joining the game to post in the thread and/or find some way to track ips submitting pretenders.

Tir na nig nog let's go

>>135360920
>if Seor could afford them anyway.
WHY IS THIS MAP SO POOR

TNN, you ok with drawing that border in the northeast direction, at least up to the river?

>>135371001

My section seems fine. You're just used to pymous maps with 300 gold/province or whatever, right? He changes the province settings to do that. the basic province settings are much lower. Basically those maps come prebuilt with 300% income game settings.

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>>135311342
>>135311520
Do you guys even want to continue this game?

>>135373101
>You're just used to pymous maps with 300 gold/province
I don't play those maps.
I'm used to 30-50 gold provinces at the very least.

My income is half of what a nation of my size should be pulling.

>>135359271
Flying hobbits are the only good hobbit sacreds in the game and even then they aren't actually very good, they just can fly.

>>135370647
C'mon Tir na n'og I wanna play ;___;

>>135375349
It worked!

>>135376269
Praise the (lizard) gods!

Purple men: Where are your elephants? Elephants are nice. There are elephants next to you. I promise not to touch them, even though they look delicious. You should take your elephants over to visit those elephants.

Other purple men who are slightly more goatlike: The monkeys are yours, we suppose, though we would like for them to be our friends. Can we have the frogs instead? We have some of their cousins, and we would so like to complete the set.

Kitties: You saw nothing. Shhh. That was embarassing. So you didn't see it.

Tir na nog and Therodos, why are you messaging me about pigs? There's some monkey business going on

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Holy shit.

It's blitz time.
Please go into the steam chat if you'd like to play.

>>135378606
Baxia the Grey?

>>135378819
Baxia the about to single-handedly break me into Blood magic.

>>135378921

What nation were you again?

>>135379006
The one right next to you.

Prepare your butthole.

>>135374597
The game is pretty much Mari vs Ghosts right now. If Mari starts staling, you might as well just quit and declare Lemuria the winner.

>Agartha is tiny
>Patala is even tinier
>R'lyeh is decent size but staling
>Ulm is decent size but staling
>Xibalba is the only decent size player left who's not staling, but he's still irrelevant compared to Marignon and Lemuria

>>135379174

Hm. Nah. The only T'ien Ch'i I'm near is in a game that hasn't had a new turn recently.

So, someway along the way I got an event in one of my provinces. I must have completely missed it and only now notice it. Basically, I have no idea what it does, but it gives the commander in the province the choice to either "Withdraw (event)" or "Magic (event)". The only site in the province is a Turtle Village.

Anyone know what the event is?

>>135374597

I'm staying only to see Patala fall and he will fall, mark my word.

>>135380728

Press 'i' to view the history of the province.

>>135380985
Your butthurt will live on in legends, Agartha.

>>135355392
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B7AI19pZwWqBM0UzSkJ4T1lzUVk

Version 0.53

Polymorph scales with level
Transformation back to 8 gems
Man gets transformation at 5 gems
Man gets a Hex spell that is essentially a small-aoe polymorph. N2A1, Alt 7, 1 gem, aoe 3+
Round Table Implementation (Knights of Avalon and Knight Commanders can turn into Knights of the Round Table).
Knights of Avalon are recruitable in sufficiently magical forted forests
Mother of Avalon paths improved
Crone paths improved

Unfortunately, the first draft of the cav buffs didn't work. I'll see what I can do vis a vis getting them to work properly later.

>>135381780
I'll fix 'em, just had sleep and studies and now TURNS.
Also they don't just affect cav, because I can't do that.

>>135381235

>it turns out to be the Anthrax quest line

Oh boy.

>>135383178
Who doesn't love Anthrax.

Incidentally, does nobody else save their turn files from previous turns? I have altogether 152 subfolders in my save folder just at the moment, with more in an old saves backup.

>>135383958
I just keep the Llamaserver mails.

>>135383958
>Anthrax
CRYYY FOR THE INDIAAAANS

>>135383958
I do the same, though I usually move my saves into a backup when I reach around 60.

Anything more than that makes it annoying to find my current turns, and that's 20 turns back in 3 games which is usually enough for anything I need to check.

>>135383958
I keep a folder for each of my current games in my savedgames folder and have the most recent three or so turns in the savedgames folder named something like CurrentGame08.

Armemegeddon gets the three-digit meme, though, so it's Armemegeddon010.

>>135383958
I use an utility I found on RPGCodex.

>>135383958
3 fucking gig of them sitting there, mournfully awaiting the day I get rid of them forever and those fleeting moments of joy are consigned to the abyss forever.

Yup

>>135335419
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/the-kingdom-of-sartar

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TAKE TURNS

>>135390412
No.

Is there a mod that lets me test specific units against other specific units? Or specific mages against other specific mages? Or specific thugs against X PD of Y type? I want to test some units and mages out that I have no experience with but I can't orchestrate these tests in SP games against AI.

>>135390412

But I need to analyze all the pretenders based on 2x available titles!

...fine. Sent.

>>135390729
Just use debug mod and hotseat, you silly.

>>135390729
You can play a game and control multiple players. Just right click on the AI difficulty until it shows human.

Debug mod makes all spells level 0, gives cheap S1 versions of wish/GoR/Eyes of god, and gives a cheap S1 summon with all magic paths at level 9. It's useful to test things.

>>135391307
>>135391126
oh nice. thanks.

I want to make a dark souls nation spanning every age starting with gwyn and the heroes in EA to dark souls 1 MA and dark souls 2 LA, is this a good idea?

>>135393304
no

>>135393658
Ok, ill go kill myself

>>135393784
If you can do it, do it.

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/domg/ games currently waiting for pretenders

>EA
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=standardeagame
Map: Realm of Roaring Cave Rhinos
Mods: Worthy Heroes 5.5
Players: (10/11)
Tir na n'Og
Fomoria
Caelum
T'ien Ch'i
Xibalba
Arcoscephale
Niefelheim
Sauromatia
Agartha
C'tis

>MA
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SpringHawks
Map: Random with ~15 provinces per player
Mods: Worthy Heroes 5.5
Ermor is banned.
Players: (5/12)
Ulm
Mictlan
Sceleria
Marignon
Caelum

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=wittymemename
Map: to be decided
Mods: Sum Mod National, Sum Mod Generic .51, Sum Mod popkill .51, Worthy Heroes 5.5 (NN)
Players: (8/16)
Ulm
Ermor
Pythium
Man
Shinuyama
Caelum
Marignon
Agartha

>LA
none at the moment

Why do we all have such fucked up borders, near as I can tell?

>>135394941
No clue, also I bumped with burds, ouch.

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Plan B.

>>135371001
Mine is fine. More gold than I can spend.

>>135394159
Sent in a C'Tis pretender.

>>135383958
My email provider archives old emails, retaining the file attachments, so I don't need to.

>>135394941
>was about to take a province, closing off a little zone of three provinces to take later
>clashed and lost
>now Durholm has taken those and there's a little eye-spangled schlong protruding into my northern mountains
libera me ab inferno fatuitatem

>>135395487
(For Springhawks, forgot to mention that somehow)

>>135394159

EA:

http://blitzserver.net/matches/view/91
Blitzserver Third Test
Biddyn
Worthy Heroes, Summod
Players 5/??
Arco
Hel
Ermor
TNN
C'tis

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Guys, I think we have a problem.

We should choose a map and start. And while we're at it, update to Summod 0.53.

does anyone have a copy?

>>135398735
Yeah, my own :^)

>>135395408
If a pretender cast AC, you could wish for the pretender to die.

>>135395408

pls no armageddons

>>135398582
Why no TC, they've got eunuchs summing conscripts and a better terracotta soldiers spell!

>>135399390

knock 20g off the price of geomancers and you have yourself a dealio

Are there any guides or rule of thumbs about the preferred ratio of different terrain types in a map? I'm planning on just pulling up a bunch of maps and counting the different types myself but I'd prefer not to go through the effort if somebody else already has.

Also, any guides on map making in general? I'd like to make my own but would like to avoid any common pitfalls.

>>135399858
Sum1won already did stuff to the mages in terms of cost decreases and boosts and shit.

>>135398582
Let's wait until someone takes TC and Xib, since they got some buffs that should probably be tested.

Come on guys, don't you wanna play frogs?

>>135402054
Someone should try bless frogs, since their poison sacreds aren't cap only now.

>>135400641
If there is one I haven't found it.

Similar terrain together looks nice, but fucks people up. Too many or few province connections is another problem, lots of connections makes for more rescources and easier expansion (more choice of indies) and the inverse for a few.

Consider what flying does as well, chokepoints and so such are good but too many is annoying.

Remember caves.

Oh and you don't need to go with things which could ever possibly exist, the default x-y wrap isn't physically possible (no its not a donut, the internal perimeter and external perimeter are equidistant).

The Empire of Sarthon (used in mapmaking is hard) took me about 8 hours total, without using a tablet or being able to draw.

>>135402504
Oh, wow hey I hadn't even considered hand-drawing the map and scanning it in. Might actually be better than mouse-drawing everything.

Thanks for the info. I had actually almost forgotten caves.

>>135399043

I don't think their pretender cast it, but I'm way too lazy to go back and check.

>>135402504
It is a donut though, the map representation is just deformed. Just like a typical world map doesn't translate very well to an actual globe.

>>135403687
I mouse drew it in gimp, I do not recommend it but it does allow lots of layers and so such. Ideal would probably be tablet, and if you scan it you need to then put it in gimp to put in the province pixels (pure white) and a layer to make sure nothing else is pure white or there will be more provinces everywhere.

>>135402202
I would, but I'm so supremely awful at MA Xib.

How do you draw a map that wraps?

>>135404018
I've been using paint.net. It has its own problems, but I'm pretty used to it by now and it's a very handy 'basic' drawing program.

>>135404012
Maps would be much more screwed up if they were for a donut, projections of globes to fit as squares are shit and weird as fuck.
>>135404152
It's just ticking wrap in the map editor in game, which is the best place for finalising maps.
>>135404162
Whatever works for you, but you do need to have the pure 255 white pixels for provinces.


There's a small official mapmaking manual which is mostly the modding commands for modifying the .map file rather than the picture, allowing for things like the Erf Snekening where all indies were Erf Sneks without requiring a mod.

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>>135404152
In photoshop you can set an offset that allows you to see how the edges of the picture come together. Set the offset to half of the picture's dimensions, turn on wraparound, fix your shit, and remove the offset when you're done.

It's under "Filter > Other > Offset..."

>>135401427

nonspecific changes don't tell me if geomancers are 20g cheaper, no dealio

>>135405013
Oh, damn that sounds super useful. I've... just been manually copying my map in every direction. I'll have to see if paint.net can replicate that. Probably not, as even some seemingly basic options aren't available and whenever I look for them I find posts from years ago with people asking for them with no response.

>>135405476
Fuck you, 0 enc chariots.

>>135405476
You want 45 gold 2 path mages?

>>135405839
I mean, who doesn't?

>>135405839
>>135406118

Are those two paths w1 + 100% WSN, aka a master of the way

>>135407769
Masters are 135 gold.

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Hello. I don't know what is going on or where I am.

But wherever I am and whatever is going on I want to buy an Air Hat.

What bless do you prefer for MA Xib? I've been trying massed dart throwers with a 6A/8B bless using an imprisoned blood fountain, which is probably awful. Please harangue me and oust the demons of stupidity that continue to infest my brain.

So whose interested in global peace until the batman has been dealt with? His starting location is going to require us to cooperate.

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Kindly fuck off Agratha, I knew you thought I was an easy target but think again motherchunker.

There's more where that came from.

>>135409769
MAGE SUPPORT

>>135409345
I'll be bordering him soon. Who else is?

>>135409769
>Try to rally support to fight the, by far, largest nation in the game
>Everyone who could reasonably help out is staling or losing troops on the other side of the world
>mfw I can't find a half-decent nervouslysweating.png

Pls no post the battle report Jomon. I want to see it when I get home.

>>135410968
I'm bordering him, but my nation isn't exactly an early game power.

>>135409345
>>135410968
>>135411097
Is there any point to this if you're not saying who you are?

>>135410968
Patala?
>>135411097
Marignon.

Or I'm totally thinking about the wrong game.

>>135394159
I've sent in a pretender.

May the Pantokrator have mercy on my soul.

>>135411207
Wrong game. This is armemegeddon, talking about Xibalba.

>>135411370
Somehow I thought >>135410968 was responding to >>135409769.

I'm dumb, basically, is what I am saying.

>>135411034
Hey, I'm the one getting jumped by two inbreds for literally no reason.

wonder if Jomon wants to ally with a blood nation?

>>135409769
That wasn't the case, honestly. You didn't reply when I tried to establish our borders and ignored my message, so I didn't really know what to expect of you. Silent players are scary.

Still, pretty good unexpected fireworks. That's some impressive research at this point, considering you seem to only have one castle or I'm overestimating the size of Jomon. Congrats.

>>135411568
Previous experience has implied that no, he doesn't. Plus he's way beyond needing allies at this point.

>>135411726
>overestimating the size of Jomon
Literally impossible. Build two scouts and send them in opposite directions. You'll very quickly see how large he stretches.

>>135411034

>that moment when you realize your first war target is a diplomonster
>all your neighbours are being 'rallied' against you

'Alright men, I know we've been in some tough spots before, but I need you to kill ten men each. Each. This is unreasonable, but we are now in the place of unreason."

>>135412356
Is he really a diplomonster if he's failing?

>Invade guy
>Easily destroy him
>He goes AI without saying a word

Should I feel bad about absolutely crushing someone like this?

>>135412065
>he doesn't [want to ally]
Well, he did want to ally with me. It was me who backstabbed him, when I realized how fuckhueg he is and saw R'lyeh chainstaling.
And I feel kinda bad, to be honest. You seem to be a cool guy, Jomon. You'll probably murder both of us anyway as soon as you hit two more levels in Ench.

>>135411190
I'll tell you who I am in private chat, but I don't want the batman to know who precisely is beginning to conspire against him. I want him to feel the whole world is.

I'm also entirely too close to him, and don't want to provoke a batstorm just yet.

>>135411726
Huh, mustn't have sent the 2h the message for you in it. I'd almost be willing to sue for peace if you didn't take out my castle as it was finishing. Now it's personell, kid. PD seems to be enough to keep mari at bay and I've got another mage doomstack ready to go if he gets uppity.

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>>135408801

Sorry man, a horror ate mine :(

"Sir, Kanzou's men have been destroyed in Old Flood! The enemy advances, the scouts report!" "The garrison at Kinsu has been defeated!"
"Sir, the Dragon Kings report huge R'lyeh forces sighted in the Sea of Silences!"
"No reply from our spies in Agartha - the entire ring has gone silent and Iga Kinboshi has gone to investigate!"

Ubizou put his hand on his head. "Tohdoh.. if only Tohdoh were here. Then things would turn around." His aides did not comment, waiting for commands. Gripped by resolve, the general looked down at the map, throwing a hand wide to gesture as he began to quickly give commands. "Saizou, Kano and Kamiza are to fall back to defend the capital, and send a request to the courts of the dragon kings - ask for their aid in this time of need! And send a message to the troops under Asai - they are to advance on the enemy heartland. Tell them to burn the summer crops. Kami save us, those hermits are our only hope. Relying on a magical superweapon, in this kind of situation! ... Well, I guess it is the best that I can do. May the One God forgive me, and the Kami bless us all. If Jomon is to survive, this must be done."

In case anyone needs to know, Xibalba is in the area around 857. Yes that has a shitload of farms and forests, and no his expansion doesn't seem to be hampered by indie strength 9 at all, unlike what that guy earlier was claiming. Feel free to panic.

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>>135413547

Stupid horrors.

>>135408801
Given time I could make one, but my forgers all went on site searching duty to occupy their time during the AC, so their not exactly close to a lab atm.

>>135412996
>Well, he did want to ally with me.
Because you were a threat. Agartha, Abysia, and Jomon were the three nations with a large enough territory after the expansion phase to risk running away with the game (though I don't think anyone is entirely out of the running just yet). Abysia is notoriously weak through the early/mid game and conquering Abysia's land and forts would put Jomon, already very strong, in a dominant position.Securing his border with you (as I also attempted to do with both of you) would have given him time to expand safely against other players.

>>135414201
My scouts have seen him as far north as 955. His expansion was hampered a bit (it doesn't seem like he has 30+ provinces after all) but nearly as much as it hurt everyone else.

>>135414201
>>135414531
I'm really not a fan of spreading someone's start location around like that this early but... that's honestly kinda scary.

>>135414717

He could be doing a 'hopping' approach, don't assume that every province in a radius belongs to him. Tunneling and hopping both result in non-regular empire shapes.

>>135414717
It's Bats, who won the last game, with an even better starting position this time, and with even better starting circumstances.

It's kind of needed to stop him from just sweeping the game desu. We need to do to him what All Yesterdays did to their Xibalba (gangbang the fuck out of him)

>>135414375

The plan was to spread your provinces between Ragha, Man, Agartha, and the JLF, actually. I figured from all your messages and the way you demanded I hand over provinces and stuff, that once you hit research goals suddenly you and several of my neighbours would swarm over my borders on the same turn. Given the current situation - I was right.

>>135412996

I have a lot of provinces right now from raiding Abysia (from the SEAAAAAAA), but I wouldn't call my lands fuckhuge before that. Big, but also, Jomon. And with the provinces Abysia demanded, Abysia would have been roughly the same size.

The moment I see someone invade bats (and I WILL see) I'm gonna pounce on them like a dog in heat

>>135413956
Vassili and Dotyoveski trod along the road to Jomon.

"Dot, how go the men back home? Is glorious Rodina Mat in peril?"

The Master of Names slipped into the astral plane to communicate with his brothers. A wide grin grew upon his face, the sort of maniacal grin reserved for those dedicated to the Five.

"Vassili, I see the cave-dwellers laid to waste by a glorious charge of Druzhine, I see our magics wreaking havoc on the unjust. Rus breathes a sigh of relief, Rodina Mat preserve us"

Vassili became lost in thought. He and his companion had been sent to Jomon to plead for aid against the wanton aggression of the cave dwellers and sailor scum of the coast. With help from the mysterious east, the ships of the sailors could be sunk and the caves shattered. If.

I'm shit at prose, pls ally

>>135415795
I don't border them yet, but I'm in the same area so unless someone gets in between, ditto.

>>135415508
Oh, man, is that what it was? Okay, total diplomatic failure on my part then, I really wasn't trying to "demand" anything other than what I'd already taken. I was sort of dressing my language up like these were orders from on high but my intent was to leave enough room in there for negotiation. Those three coastal provinces to your south were really kind of a sketchy circumstance but I'm really not sure that would have put us at an even province count. I'll have to double check that, though.

I mean, every game needs a breakdown of communication leading to war at some point. That was what I meant when I said that all of our gods claimed the world in their name so claiming unowned territory was sort of meaningless. Still, I do wish we could've been on better terms.

>several of my neighbours would swarm over my borders on the same turn.
The only reason that was possible at all was that you were taking a lot of my land and I panicked. I hadn't been able to make any diplomatic headway before then, so, thank you for that.

>>135416091
Will send message in game, I'm ages away but if you post your border with bats in thread I'll send items/gems/gold free of charge.

>>135412958
If you're jellycube marignon, it's been mentioned before that it's literally Eriu's 1st or 2nd game

>>135416265
>>135415508
>>135414375
>>135412996
>>135412356
Names pls

>>135416459

>>135416265
>>135414375
TheNewCool Abysia

>>135415508
>>135412356
TheNewCool Jomon

>>135412996
TheNewCool Agartha

>>135416449

That's not me. And if Eiru was interested in living, they should have helped my crusade.

I do feel kinda bad though

>>135416657
>crusade

"Hear ye, hear ye! Glorious Marignon kicks puppy down well; successful crusade declared!"

"Up next! Stealing candy from a baby: crusade or Most Holy Crusade?"

>>135416860
>>135416657
Glorious Marginon Removes Elven Threat! All pay tribute, Marginon's Everlasting Victory all but Confirmed! More at 8

>>135398104
I can set people AI whenever. I really do wish people would ask for subs, but at least Ragha came back. Is R'lyeh getting destroyed, or just failing to play this very fun game?

I also appreciate the roleplay. You guys are cool.

>>135416265

A group of 7 icthytids, shamblers, and 1 shark man was doing a really good job of taking your provinces. If this was an rpg, they'd be decked out in magic items and custom titles at this point.

>>135417119

Marignon randomly attacked me underwater, and I responded with hundreds of warbling shrimp soldiers, but I don't think anyone is attacking R'lyeh.

>>135417119
>You guys are cool.
> not "The New Cool"

Low Energy GM detected

Seriously though, anyone for an RP heavy game?