/hg/ HITMAN GENERAL

>>135242947
Sapienza is looking pretty damn big

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>>135244425
we only need to wait another 16 days for it

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>Don't Know Where The Last Thread Went
It was bumped off the board.

>>135247681
Higher AA really does make a difference to the image quality. Looks really nice.

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>>135248296
I have AA off, though. Everything is on lowest other than AF and resolution.

>PS4 version gets double the content
>PS4 version gets patches first

I may just refund the PC version and wait until it is all out next year.
IO are really screwing the pooch here.

>>135248936
Ah, I see. Maybe because it's a still image? Iunno, still looks smoother than ps4 version.

First for DALE
Anyway, is there a list for the costumes you need to wear to do the chameleon challenge? I thought I put all of them on but I hear some uniforms habe small differences and count as different outfits

>>135242947
I can't play Paris without crashing to desktop. Anyone else have this problem?

>>135250753
are you running dx12

This game looks fantastic from what I'm hearing /seeing but this "always online" shit really fucking sours me on it. Why the fuck do I have to be connected to the internet to play a Hitman game.

>>135250753
Yes, I have it with DX12 on. Also benchmark crashes on it.

>>135250205

Man that would be handy.

Also i've spent like 6 hours in the Paris level doing the main mission as well as contracts and i'm still discovering stuff, still blown away by the sheer scale of it and still utterly clueless about a ton of stuff.

I love it.

If IO/Square Enix can quit being humongous shitcunts and adopt a reasonable "store locally then sync with server when convenient" approach for challenges/stats/contracts rather than the HURRRRR WE KICK YOU BACK TO MAIN MENU NOW system this could very well be the best Hitman to date.

Also i'm starting to get server dc's with just heavy connection usage which is almost impossible to avoid with 3 housemates, how much bandwidth is this shit trying to suck?

>Elusive Target gets released

>Server Issues

>Everyone fails their one and only attempt thanks to Squeenix

I can almost taste the tears.

>>135253619
>You only get one attempt.

Well shit. I wonder how many people will go full Rambo to ensure the kill.

>>135252510
so turn off dx12

>>135254006
>going rambo
>not going FULL hitman
Disgusting

>>135254573
>take your time
>get disconnected from the server 5 minutes in
>you can never ever try to kill that elusive target

vs

>rush in
>shoot him in the face
>done in 15 sec, before you get disconnected

>>135255429
you need to escape too.

>>135256073

Once you know the level, it's ridiculously easy to escape even after going loud, even more so if you do it in a very controlled and isolated fashion, doubly so if no one knows what the shooter looks like.

There's so many exterior routes from the upper floors or grounds themselves to easy exits that you've always got options. And if the elusive target will at all be visible from the exterior, sniper shots will make it even easier.

However i'm fully expecting IO to mix up the level layout for the elusive targets, be it new guard points, fewer exits, heavier security, a target that can flee, exits that get locked down HARD when alerted or simply making it next to impossible to take out the target without drawing attention.

is there a option to change minimap's size?

>>135256875
Don't think so.

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just to make sure the full experience is actually the full experience, right? I'm not missing out on some tutorial levels or anything if I buy it?

is the intro pack something you could have bought weeks ago and are now jewed if you want more content?

wew lad do I hate this shit

>>135257362
intro pack = first ep
full experience = first ep + the rest whenever as each is released

>>135257362
its the FULL experience. All of it.

>>135257362
Its not hard to "get" at all mate

>intro pack
you get tutorial and the first level, "The Showstopper"

>upgrade pack
makes your intro pack a full pack

>full pack
you get literally everything


i imagine they will add something like

>episode 2 (5 bucks or something)
you get episode 2

>episode 3 (5 bucks or something)
you get episode 3

after each episode release too

>200mb patch

Fuck yeah, they fixed the connecti-

>DISCONNECTED FROM SERVER

Welp, there it goes again.

First thing i did was put Opportunities on "Minimal" and man im having a blast
Cant find shit
I love it

>>135259360
What bugs me is that sure, we can't, but everyone else who either has it on full or checks challenges knows everything already.

Iunno, I feel like they need to keep half the stuff locked, but they can't because getting points is tied to completing challenges.

Dunno why they didn't keep BM and give you money for successful completion. Mind you I still love the game, but this is one of the few things that kinda rubs me the wrong way.

>>135259798
What if putting Opportunities settings to Minimal or Off gave you a point bonus?
That would mean you could only change it in the main menu though, which isnt really a problem for me at least.

>>135258076

PC patch was literally nothing.

PS4 got a decent patch though, hopefully PC version rolls out soon.

>>135259894
Nah my point is that all the hits are already spoiled. Their idea is 'we show what to do, you figure out how to do it'. My argument is that at least some should be fully locked, and left for the players to discover. It'd definitely lengthen the games replayability and add to the feeling of discovery. But they can't do that because, as I said, to get points, you need to complete challenges.

>>135260074

>PC patch was literally nothing.

Fantastic. So Hitman is out of the picture and my fightstick just crapped out.

No video games for the coming week or so I guess.

>>135261098
No need to be a fucking baby.

>>135262694

No, I mean there is literally nothing else to play so I'll do something else for the week.

He's going for headshots
pull your shirts up

TOMORROW IS THE FIRST ELUSIVE TARGET :3

>>135260196
I agree. One of the biggest faults this game has is how it dangles the new items you can unlock in front of you but to do so you need to do the challenges in a "tick box" fashion that that kills all re-playability in that map because, well, you already did every kill and discovered every little secret on that map.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g375TL5u94Q

>>135263751
Are you niggas going in blind or waiting to learn from people's failure?

>>135268282
>Wear a moonsuit
>Literally obscuring my face 100%
>"Hey, I don't recognize you!"

I guarantee it.

>>135268463
Only scrubs would rely on someone else to make the perfect hit. Gonna go in blind every time senpai. Gonna be such a thrill.

>>135263751

>YOU HAVE BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM THE SERVER

:3

>>135269186
>Have third world Aus net
>Never been dc'd

Step it up senpai

>>135268463
go in blind. worst case, i shoot the nigger and run out with the crowd.

>>135269186
i have yet to be disconnected :|

>>135269242
>>135269341

Fuck !

It was flawless for the first 2 days but after that it all went to shit.

FFS, why do accidents count as "body found" Well of course they'll see the body once it plunges down head-first on the concrete from the 3rd floor. Did they expect me to intercept it the moment spine breaks, without anyone seeing and stash it in a nearest closet/chest?

>>135256770
They implied that the target can escape.

>>135269870
Fucking this
If the target dies an "accidental" death, the whole point is that I get away Scott Free

>>135270959
Di they look for you? i always took body found as they found the body, but they dont suspect you

>>135271210
Good point actually, unless I'm very close to the accident I don't become suspicious

>Finish Showstopper for 2nd time
>Check what challenges I've done
>SASO is ticked
>So is SO
>I sure as fuck did neither.

????

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So who is this guy?
What do you think?

>>135271768
Isn't he the guy from the start, and the guy from the post Paris cinematic, who is high up in the ICA and is clearly administering hits for his own gain while lying to the ICA handlers and hitmen he employs to make it look like they're just normal commissioned hits?

>>135271768
That's probably the Mystery Man from Silent Assassin.

>>135272126
I don't think we have any suggestion that he works for the ICA besides his skill. You're getting him mixed up with the guy from the prologue.

He killed Kamarov as part of a private deal and was paid in information, not cash.

>>135273502
My logic was as follows: the post Paris cinematic implies that he's the one who wants the hit on Maria and Viktor (sends the text to tie up loose ends). It also implies he set up the hit FOR Viktor on the FSB guy, but since he didn't just kill Viktor himself here at the secret meeting we can assume he doesn't necessarily do his own dirty work.

The start of the Paris mission, however, has Diana telling you that MI6 has ordered this hit, which implies she was lied to. So this guy wanted the hit, has the power to arrange hits, and the hit he wanted had come under the guise of some other sanctioned action by the time it got down to you. So he's high up, and that's why I think he's important in the ICA.

All this coupled with the whole "DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORLD YOU'RE CREATING? I LIVE IN THAT WORLD" teaser monologue really lends itself to the whole exploiting the agency for personal gain angle

>>135273502
Oh yeah and the fact that he was paid in information as opposed to cash works with that as well, what better way to amass power than to stockpile all manner of highly classified knowledge and then ensure you are the last one who knows about it.

>>135274343
I think it's more likely that he passed information on to MI6, knowing they'd order the hit.
I really don't want another ICA employee antagonist because Absolution's story was a complete shitshow.

>>135274505
He wasn't interested in the entire dossier, he just didn't want Viktor to know what he was looking for.

is it just my game or does 47's voice sound like he's in a chamber

>>135277739
Sometimes it does. I had a cave voice during the Mr. Reaper dialogue

>start in attic
>kill all guards with a bullet in the head
>no body discovered
>never even got "searching"
>get score 0 because non target kill

BRING BACK BLOOD MONEY RANKING SYSTEM FOR FUCK SAKE I DON'T CARE ABOUT LEADERBOARDS

>>135259526
MISTER WORLDWIDE

>>135282937

DALE

>>135271734
Challenges are bugged as hell.
And accidents don't count towards SA.

>>135242947
Bump

M8 why can't developers that used to make good games make shit nowadays without fucking up? Is it cuz they're old? This always online shit is AIDS

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Dual Silverballers when?

>>135294584
I guess devs will add it as unlockable things, if this option isn't in the game already.

>>135294804
Apparently, one of the episodes is going to have a 'Weapon Upgrade' system like Absolution, but with drops and shit, like CS:GO but without the crates and keys.

>>135294341
It's not IO's fault that Squeenix hates money.

>>135295352

>but with drops and shit

Fucking why

>>135294341
>why cant devs override producers

>>135296339
reasons

>>135295352
Source?

>>135295352
Proofs?

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This general is pretty dead

elusive target when?

>>135301904
Within 10 days after launch.

>>135268463
I just want to know his general location so I have a good idea for a deployment spot. Probably doesn't count as blind though.

>Want to drop chandelier on Novikov
>Follow him around to see when that can happen
>Find it
>Restart mission and go there to drop it on him
>Doesn't go there
Fucking triggers.

>>135302205
>But doesn't he ALWAYS come down the stairs, standing there for a moment?
I started as av guy and just dropped the chandelier on him within the first minute.

>>135302205
Remember that you can drop a chandelier by shooting its chain, not just by releasing the winch.

That might not actually help, though.

>>135302383
You can also shoot the winch.

>>135302347
I wanted to do it in the Requiem suit, so I was waiting by the one in the back. He calls Dahlia there sometimes.
>>135302383
I did not know that. I'll just try that then.

>>135302547
Yeah, it's not obvious. It didn't occur to me until I realized there was no other conceivable way to drop one on Dalia in the auction room.

>>135301987
>>135301904
tomorrow

>>135303273
I'm going to guess you don't actually have a source for that.

>>135295840
>>135296975
That's what I meant. The developers are forced to make their game fit the model that the publisher wants but it just becomes AIDS every time.

>>135302205
There was a video on /v/ yesterday doing it in 6 minutes and he dropped it on Novikov by starting in the attic can't remember the name of the video or the channel name though. But yeah, best way to do it is just start at the attic or the AV crew.

So the way to drop Dahlia on Novikov is to trigger the fireworks?

>>135304217
Yeah.
Supposedly even if you line them up, it won't work except in that one scripted situation.

>Do something high profile
>Can't safe for the rest of the mission
That's annoying.

>>135304436
U wot? In regular missions you can ALWAYS save. Might be that you have to stand still for a few moments or some situation to be cleared, but you can always save. Apparently you can't save during escalation, though.

>>135304965
>In regular missions you can ALWAYS save.
Not if there's that red image in the lower right, which generally only comes during some triggers.

>Might be that you have to stand still for a few moments or some situation to be cleared, but you can always save.
I waited for minutes.

>>135305056
So why don't you save AFTER those situations? I mean, you always have time to go into another room or something. Or do you refer to the Decker undertaking?

>>135305662
>So why don't you save AFTER those situations?
I can't. It doesn't go away. Had to complete the whole mission without saving.

>>135305739
Seems like a bug.
But apart from that, if you didn't have to listen to every single five minute dialogue, I would probably not save anyways. But getting spotted from nowhere or disconnected and then having to relisten the same Dalia/lackey dialogue or redoing the whole Decker thing is just tedious. I just want my challenges.

>>135306032
>if you didn't have to listen to every single five minute dialogue, I would probably not save anyways
Fucking seriously.
I love that the game uses overheard conversations to tell the story. I hate that it does so in a way that wastes the player's time.

>still no Elusive Target

Still no reason to give a shit about this game anymore.

>>135305739
>>135306032
Its a bug. I had it happen to me once.

>>135308380
I don't get how fags are swooning over elusive targets - the most uninteresting new aspect - when there is so much more dire things, like the shitty online requirement, contracts being shitty, online requirement and lots of bugs.
Honestly, I don't care about elusive targets at all right now.

https://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/5329/

Someone already fixed the graphics

Can anyone explain what elusive target is?

Didn't play absolution

For "More than you bargained for", where you assassinate Dalia as Kruger, does it have any hidden requirements like shooting her or something? Or can I kill her however I want?

>>135309003
I shot that bitch

>>135308889
It's a new feature, nothing to do with Absolution.

IOI creates a new NPC with their own video briefing and places them on the map. They aren't marked on your map or in instinct mode; you have to use the briefing and a photograph to identify your target. You only get a single chance. If you die while escaping, or your target escapes the map, you can't try again. You can't save, either.

>>135311449
Sounds nice acually.

Does using the IAGO invitation and going up as Mr. Reaper count as a disguise for Suit Only?

>>135313147
It's not a disguise, it just gets you past a few guards.

>>135313907
Well, it also allows you to access the top floor, whereas otherwise it would be restricted, right?
But thanks for the info.

>>135314020
No, it just gets you past a few guards. If you are in the suit, you are allowed on the third floor, because you look like a guest. You just can't take the stairs unless you have an invite.

>>135308881
Doesn't look all that different, which is a good thing. The art direction is quite superb (colours are kept at a perfect range).

>>135314134
That's pretty much exactly what he was asking.

>>135313147
Yes it still counts as suit only, as was said it is not a disguise. You have restricted access to the third floor (no attic, not the side of the floor that allows access to her room, and you'll be frisked at the second set of guards)

Getting into the attic is decently simple thankfully (on one side the guards aren't looking if you're careful, and alternatively you can gain access from the second floor from the scaffolding outside one of the easternmost rooms)

>>135303427
oops, You're right. That's paris escalation. Still hype

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/hitman/news/hitmans_first_elusive_target_will_appear_within_the_next_10_days_2.html

>>135319108
>one elusive target at most every 10 days
So even assuming you never fail one, it is going to take two months to get the first tier unlock?

>>135318763
>That's pretty much exactly what he was asking.
No, he was asking if the invite allows you on the third floor. It doesn't. It just gets you past the guards.

If you go around the guards, you don't need the invite.

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>get home from work today
>just want to relax and take out a few challenges for an hour
>this is all I see

I sure love this non-intrusive DRM...

>>135319108
>next Tuesday, March 16.
Well, which is it?

>>135322058
That's not what it says. They are hopefully only waiting so long to give players time to learn the map.

>>135323524
>They are hopefully only waiting so long to give players time to learn the map.

There is an ingame map...

>>135323627
Are you joking?

>>135323627
Not sure if it's an issue on other platforms but on PS4 there's a small delay to bring up menus. And on top of that when you bring up the map the game pauses.

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>>135323627
I think you missed the point, anon.

Is there any way to unlock poison as part of your starting gear? it's really annoying to have to dig around everywhere to try to find some rat poison. The lethal syringe isn't useful since I can't use it on food/drink.

I wonder if agent smith will make an appearance in this game. I think there was some mention of him in absolution.

God I love the UI and the menu music so much. Feels absolutely spot on. Still a shame that the upgrade system is based on points instead of money we earn and then spend. Would have been utterly perfect.

>>135328065
>The lethal syringe isn't useful since I can't use it on food/drink.
This has to be changed. You could do just that in BM, no reason not the here.

>>135328065
It will be an unlock in the future, and we'll likely get a sedative syringe later as well. Right now you can unlock a sedative poison for drinks.

>>135328940
They very obviously want injectable and ingestable poisons to be separate.

>>135245456
Got a source for that?

Is there lethal poison somewhere on showstopper or do I need to use the syringe for the challenge?

>>135336397
You can get cyanide from Dalia if you meet with her as Kruger.

>only way to trigger an evacuation is by phone

This is such bullshit. I love how they don't even react to each others deaths. If Dalia or Viktor's bodies are spotted, it should trigger an evacuation. Also, a large number of deaths or a bomb should do it also.

>>135340734
Viktor gets a phone call if Dalia's body is discovered. Dalia probably gets one if his is found. I know Valerie gets mad that Viktor died.

>>135341124
I killed him in broad daylight downstairs, had a shootout with guards, went upstairs, and Dalia still has her normal meetings and even talks about they might need to get rid of Viktor.

>>135341124
Who's Valerie?

>>135344962
The woman in the bar who wants to blackmail Victor to save a failing magazine called "Showstopper."
She tries to send a lackey upstairs to the auction, which would be a good way to get an invitation for yourself if it weren't for the fact that this is right next to the bathroom where there is an invite just lying around for no reason.
Dalia's assistant, Hailey, is undercover and spying for her. That's what her conversation with the guard when you sabotage the laptop is all about.

The lethal syringe should be like in Assassin's Creed where you can just pick the target and even if in the middle of a crowd nobody will get alerted until the target just drops dead a couple of moments later. Otherwise what's even the point of using it over the fiber wire?

>>135347798
Its faster than the fiber wire.

>>135333987
its optimistic that the new map will come out on the first day of the month, we all know that won't happen

>>135348750
On the plus side, that means the wait for all other maps will be a month at most, we'll just have to endure this one being the longest wait.

>>135347798
Do you not realize how easy that would make the hits?

Is there a way to do a suit only, no pacifications, silent assassin run of Paris? I can think of a way to kill Viktor, but when would you ever have the chance to kill Dalia and hide her body undetected?

>>135353846
get the invitation to the auction, take a seat, after her speech she'll come talk to you. after a while she will go to the bathroom to call victor to ask who you are

>>135354278
Not Viktor. Somebody else, named Ezra.

>>135353846
You can get into her bathroom from a window in the attic.
Viktor was the hard one, but people already figured out how to get him. You can either distract his guard and ambush him after pulling a fire alarm, or distract his guard and ambush him near the diorama.

>>135353846
>>135354278
>>135354964
Here's the best run for that. Sub 7 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnkSPMN6NlU

>>135357880
>distracting the guards to take out Dalia without waiting for the conversation
Nice, I love this kind of inventiveness.

>>135357880
That's a minute slower than the run posted here yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBFymRp9x98

>>135359731
Ah, didn't know about this. Pretty slick.

>>135359731
Good but not silent assassin. He/(you) got spotted.

>>135362698
By Novikov.

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I WANT TO PUNCH EVERY IO PROGRAMMER IN THE FUCKING FACE.

>>135367879
>zero second bonus is 110k points
>five minutes is 55k points
Nobody will ever be able to get above 170k points legit like this.

Bumping for first Elusive target today!

>>135370485
I keep falling for this every fucking time, but I can't not check because it might be true.

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>>135370451
You get a bit more time bonus if you get SA (maybe even more for SASO). The difference between 5:09 and 5:06 is 50 points, so 170k might barely be achievable with an absolutely perfect run.

>>135370931
The whole point of the Elusive targets is that they're gonna add them with no announcement. When there's one actually out, you'll probably know because everyone will be talking about it.

>at work
>get that Hitman(TM) itch
>check the livestreams of Hitman(TM) on Twitch
>literally everyone streaming it is an absolute twat
for fucks sake

https://hitmanmap.de/
thank me later faggots

>>135371743
Excellent. Whoever makes ext gen should remember to include it.

>>135362698
>>135363675
Legit version; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1UAVPQBt1w

>>135372098
Thats a great fucking run, anon

>>135372246
Not mine senpai, but this method is really smart (and probably unbeatable, irrespective of time). I didn't realize Novikov's body guard went for the sushi, and since rat poison doesn't kill, it's an extremely smart way of getting him off Novikov's back.

So yeah, props to the anon that figured it out.

>>135372684
>tfw i thought for about 2 hours that the guy following Novikov was the supermodel for some reason
>finally manage to poison him with the sushi
>get suit
>he's just a regular bodyguard

>>135372684
What's weird is that in the Alpha, they told you Kurt loved sushi when you go into the room where he gets a snack.

>>135373062
Good.

Snorrason Ascension Level 5

When it says don't pacify anyone, does that basically mean an SASO run?

>>135373678
It just means you can't knock anyone out, killing is a-okay.

Speaking of, I really hope they add those modifiers to be available for contracts.

>>135373678
SA, not SO because you need to kill while in disguise. Was pretty easy senpai, waiting for Paris escalations.

>>135373764
>>135373786

Alright cool, thanks guy. Figured out how to do it while waiting for the reply.

Forgot there's a uniform in the locker room on the right.

>>135373678
Has the escalation mission always been there? I only just noticed it.

>>135376309
Yeah, it has been there since launch.

>>135357880
>>135359731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOh7erPM-dw

>>135377067
This isn't relevant to true SASO though.

>>135377241
How so?

>>135377414
SA in Hitman 6 requires you to hide bodies. Even if the body wasn't discovered, it wouldn't actually complete the challenge.

Still, nice run by Kotti. Classic SA runs are probably gonna be more popular, since the requirements for the new one is stupid.

>>135377580
>SA in Hitman 6 requires you to hide bodies
It only requires that bodies aren't found. Look at the scores at the end. The challenge is poorly worded.

>>135377654
>The challenge is poorly worded.
No, it's just that the level ends straight after Novikov's death, just before the AI responds. Still cool, but it isn't a legit run.

>>135377654
Score is completely separate from the actual challenge. You can get 210k and still not complete SA.

>>135376582
Well just finished all 5. The same strategy can get you through all 5 challenges.

>Jump the gate
>Jump through the toll booth
>Lure a soldier to the box and take his shit then dump the body
>Go insidie
>Either get the key now or get your mechanic outfit from the locker
>Head to the safe room
>Wait for Chess guy to leave
>Shoot guard in back of head as he follows him
>Switch into his outfit
>Shoot Colonel in bathroom and switch into his outfit
>Dump both bodies in bathroom
>Fetch key now or open safe if you got it earlier.
>Head straight out door and continue til you hit the exit.

>>135377794
>You can get 210k and still not complete SA
No you can't.
>>135377775
The game thinks the body wasn't found, how's that not enough?

Where i can find key for boat?

>>135379927
Second floor, north side. There's a relatively small room to the west of the large middle room, it's on the desk there.

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>>135379779
Yes, you can. If you kill Dalia while she's in the bathroom, and you don't put the body in the cabinet, it'll never be found and you still won't complete the challenge for SA, which requires you to hide bodies.

SA in this game is a challenge with specific requirements, not a rating. Kotti's run meets all the requirements for an SA rating in BM, but it doesn't meet the requirements for the SA challenge in Hitman.

It's dumb, but that's just how it is.

>>135380232
Sounds like your challenge glitched out because I got it by killing Viktor in a bathroom and leaving his body on the floor.

>>135379779
Don't compare glitching to legitimately doing something, at least not in the stealth genre. People are more impressed by doing things legitimately in stealth instead of glitching/making things easy, because A) It's usually more challenging B) It tends to be more interesting.

For eg; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVuiBFr0x4g
You could easily No Traces/S rank this mission by extracting one vehicle and waiting for the timer to end. But to extract all vehicles and destroy the chopper without spoiling No Traces? Now that's impressive.

Likewise, actually making both hits, hiding the bodies and not knocking out any other npc is superior than relying on glitches.

>>135381014
I disagree on calling that glitching but you're free to think otherwise.

Well, I gave it a test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHcNQGSAs3g

SA didn't show up in the challenge completed list, but it did get marked as completed in the menu. Who knows if it's a bug with the list, a bug with the completion requirements, or any other possible thing, but as of right now you don't need to hide the bodies in containers for SA.

Someone should try asking an IO developer directly what's actually intended for SA, and if hiding bodies isn't necessary then they need to fix that text. There's a massive distinction between "no bodies detected" and "hide all bodies."

>>135381014
I wouldn't call that a glitch. It was the same way in BM, and they could have fixed it in this game, but they probably kept it in specifically for speedrunners.

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>>135382502
Okay, it was unlocked in the post-mission menu, and now it's locked again in the main menu, so it's safe to assume that you DO need to hide bodies.

It's also safe to assume that whoever programmed the scoring and challenges fucked up a bit.

>>135383094
>>135382502
The challenges are notoriously glitchy at the moment. I know I got the SA one without hiding bodies but I've seen other people not get it despite being more careful than I was and hiding bodies.

>they probably kept it in specifically for speedrunners
It's common sense. If you place a body behind a corner in a place nobody checks it should count as hidden even if there is no box there.

>Die
>Alt+tab on mission failed screen
>Click back in after a little bit
>It selects replay mission automatically
Thanks senpai.

>>135383464
I ran it again without hiding either body, and it still didn't unlock. Someone really should try and get a response from IO if people are getting without hiding the bodies, 'cause this shit is all kinds of messed up.

>If you place a body behind a corner in a place nobody checks it should count as hidden even if there is no box there
I was talking about ending the mission before the body is discovered, which is what he was calling a glitch.

Also, that would be common sense normally, but there's an actual mechanic in place specifically for hiding bodies, making the words chosen much more important to distinguish.

>>135384056
>Someone really should try and get a response from IO
Hopefully they'll patch it soon, the ratings and challenges are really glitchy. Once they work properly it should be clearer.
>I was talking about ending the mission before the body is discovered, which is what he was calling a glitch.
Same thing, the only difference is that in the speedrun the body would be found seconds later but in some other case it might not be found for several minutes.
>there's an actual mechanic in place specifically for hiding bodies
Yeah, I hope they rephrase that.

Anyone know if "Complete 10 Escalations" means "10 Escalations levels", or 10 full Escalation releases?

If the later, fuck that first tier unlock is going to forever to grind out at the rate they are releasing content.

>>135249118
You're most likely looking at it on a smaller monitor then.

>>135257642

>episode 2 (5 bucks or something)

I'll probably prefer something like this for me, I can't save up money for shit.

So is this just for Hitman 2016? Since I'd also love to discuss Blood Money, I really fucked myself over by getting it first since when I played the preceding games the controls just felt too janky and weird.

>>135386342
Nah, all hitmen/hitman games. Anything to keep the thread alive.

>>135387036
What are some good challenges for Blood Money? I tried Suit Only Runs but that's as far as my imagination can spread.

>>135387271
-OSP runs. You can only use equipment you obtain in the level. That means no fiber wire or coins also.

-No suppressor, gun only run. You can only kill targets with firearms. No suppressors allowed.

>>135372098
I can't seem to do this, Dahlia just walks out of the room before both guys are in the bathroom.

>>135387656
>OSP
Why didn't I think of that? Sounds like a ton of fun.

>>135385182
same senpai

>>135387656
Like MGSV? Where you get dropped in with no equipment, no camo, no nuffin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-OivlMUTFA
>Season 1 is just act 1 of the "story"
Season 2 already confirmed?

>>135390662
>Season 2 already confirmed

Makes sense.
It has sold a shit ton and got good reception for a download only title.
PC seems to be the only outlier, and they kind of makes sense. Console kiddos are loving it though, even with the mild server disconnects.

>>135391107
>it has sold a shitton
Really? I've heard the opposite
Not saying youre wrong but do you have a source for that?
That would be great news

>>135391183
Steamspy says 100k on PC. That sounds okay, considering the circumstances.
No clue where anon is getting console numbers.
>>135390285
Do you mean MGS3? V has no OSP.

>>135390662
We are guaranteed season 2 but only if season 1 meets Squeenix's sales requirements, and we don't know what those are or how well the final boxed release will sell.

>>135391664
V has some OSP missions at the end.

>>135391742
Oh, I didn't know that.
I got pretty bored after fucking around for 50 hours and stopped playing

>>135391664
I really doubt the game is selling.

There isn't a single Hitman thread on /v/ right now, and its only been 5 days since launch.

>>135392402
>There isn't a single Hitman thread on /v/ right now
>>>/v/330994535

>>135391664
Episode 33 and Episode 39, the 2 Subsistence missions.

>>135392402
They actually banned me for making a thread on /v/ because it basically became a rolling general

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TWO NEW ESCALATION SETS!!!!
BOTH FOR PARIS
WEEEEEW

>>135392402
100k in a week isn't bad considering it's an episodic game and the previous entry in the series disillusioned a lot of fans. That's just the PC numbers, too.

People aren't talking about it right now because we've found everything so far.

>>135393893
Neato. Still trying to finish my SASO run first though.

>>135392402
>It's been a very successful launch for our first episode

From the latest steam news. Probably just means the intro package.

>>135391664

>Steamspy says 100k on PC. That sounds okay, considering the circumstances.

100k is a fucking joke no matter which way you try to spin it.

Indie autism simulators like Factorio have twice those sales, even flavour of the day titles like Superhot manage to outstrip 100k within days of their release....and they don't have 50 million dollar development budgets.

If Squeenix or IO are relying on any of the money from this initial release to fund development, the future of Hitman is completely fucked.

As much as i'm enjoying the game, the daft fucks should have quit being greedy kikes and done away with this whole early access episodic bullshit and instead waited a year and just released a finished fucking game.

New content added
https://hitman.com/en-us/news/first-live-content-added-to-hitman#

Sooo, anything new on the always online and bugged challenges?

Also, does anybody else have the issue that music settings reset always?

>>135394349
>100k is a fucking joke no matter which way you try to spin it.

Considering Steamspy only counts people who have opened the game and not everyone that has bought it, we don't know the actually number.

Plus, it is 100k on PC. Where games always sell considerably less that their console counterparts.
It is an online only title, which limits sales a big chuck, plus there are 'online campaigns' warning people not to buy the game because 'always online DRM' and 'shit performance'.

Sales are good, IO said so themselves. We should start worrying when EP 2 comes out and is panned by everyone.

>>135394349
You're comparing it to well-known and finished indie titles. This is a follow-up to a bad game, released unfinished. Nobody expected it to sell a million copies in one weekend, and IO is obviously happy with the launch.
We also don't know the console numbers.

>>135394376
Do escalations get removes when new ones go up?
Or It that just elusive?

>>135395841
All elusive contracts are available for just 48 hours.
We don't have any reason to believe there's a time limit on escalations, though.

>>135396035
And you can repeat Escalations, right?

>>135396175
yes. i replayed the ICA ones

>>135392623
>21 posts in 2 hours
>The thread is about Blood Money

Nevermind, HITMAN must be selling like Hotcakes.

How do You go around doing the final ICA escalation?

>>135393893
So can you confirme that "Complete 10 escalations" challenge is for 10 levels, or 10 full escalations

>>135397129
Engineer outfit in the locker room.

>>135395242
>Sales are good, IO said so themselves.

Because people trying to sell you a promise of future content usually come out and admit they failed a week later, right?


Just look at the number of active players. This thing is halfway down the list sandwhiched between games like American Truck Simulator, and 2d indie platformers I've never heard of.

>>135397397
>It's in the top 100 most played games on Steam

Game is obviously a failure.
I'm getting refund right now.

>>135397489
>this $50 million AAA game has as many players as American Truck Simulator and this 2d indie platformer made by one guy in his spare time
>ITS A GREAT SUCCESS

I hope you never decide to make any investments.

>>135397228
10 New escalations
2 sets of 5
both for paris

>Doing one of the new escalations
>Game crashes
Great. This one seems fucking piss easy right now as well.
>>135399102
That's not what he asked you know.

Fuck those lasers. Make me irrationally angry.

And thanks to the one guy with 210k on the leaderboard, taking away the pressure to maybe get that achievement by being the first guy to make 100k+ points.

>>135399102
Thats not what I asked.

There is a challenge that says "Complete 10 escalations".

Does that mean I do 10 levels, or I have to wait for them release 10 full escalation contracts.

What is the Palace Master Key for?

The gate that leads to the pile-driver barge?

>>135401392
Literally every locked door in the Palace
hence the name
>Master Key

>>135401810

>every locked door

There's locked doors in the Palace? The barge is literally the only door I've seen that's locked

>>135401976
The Sheikh's room is locked, yeah.
Didn't find any other though.

>>135402167
The two doors to the helicopter pad. Which are left and right of an already opened door.
Thanks for your service, CICADA.

Also another door to the southern garden I believe. No reason to walk through that though.

>>135402363
>>135402167
The room with the blogger in it is connected to the parking lot with the camera lens by a locked door.

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>>135402363
>>135402768
>MFW i did Showstopper 5 times already and have mastery lvl 12
>MFW it's 1st time i hear about Southern Garden door and Blogger room.

>>135403143
Shit's great, isn't it? Haven't even touched that camera opportunity yet and I'm level 20.

>>135403519
Yeah. I still have a lot of opportunities and challenges left.
Don't know how to get to meet Decker though.

>>135404213
Just go to him and listen to his conversation. It's pretty simple. You'd need to know where he is though.

>>135400730
you do 10 levels

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>reloaded last save during tense game
>noticed two challenges i've already done are unchecked
>feel fear it bugged
>finish the mission anyway on SA
>these challenges were checked at the outbriefing
>mfw

Also, can Dalia be drowned in her bath while relaxing? If no, devs missed a beautiful murder.

>>135405162
When does she do that?

>>135405669
I mean she has a luxury bathroom, it would be nice if they did it.

>>135405857
She's very busy though.

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>>135406031
Yeah, you have a point.
And censorship issues.
Unfortunately.

>>135406162
well it wouldn't make much sense. She's hosting the VIP party/auction for IAGO, kind of weird to take a bath

>>135403143
>>135403519
I have yet to do the fireworks, i don't even know if i have to trigger it or just wait, i just havent done it yet

>>135406696
If auction is finished, for example. There can be many 'if' and the main one is devs decisions for this level.

>>135406889
I think there is going to be a second story mission in that level, maybe we'll get it then?
I mean there is a cafe and shit that arent open, so i wanna see that in action

Do I need to show invitation to start bidding?
I sneaked my way up and want to start bidding as Reaper so she invites me to her room.

>>135407050
Who knows.
Actually, I don't want same map layout for another story missions. But elusive female target would be ok.

>>135407426
You don't bid as Mr. Reaper. You only talk to her once in the auction, at the start. Then just kill her when she's alone.

>cameras and lazers fucking everywhere
this is impossible holy shit

>>135407050
>I think there is going to be a second story mission in that level
Based on what?

>I mean there is a cafe and shit that arent open
That's just decoration to make the map seem more real.

>>135407830
Im trying to get ''A break from the auction'' and she did greet me.
Do I have to wait for the whole acution to finish? Cause killing her as soon as she goes to her room doesn't work.

Just did both the escalation missions for Paris. Laser beams were a novel addition.

Hope they fix the time bug because 8 of us are topping the leaderboards on the vampire mission and we probably had some subtly different times.

>>135409092
Are you in the tuxedo? Doesn't work if you're in your signature suit apparently. Shit's fucking bullshit.
I also believe it's glitched regardless of that.

>>135409092
That's bugged and currently only works if you're wearing the tuxedo.

>>135409461
>>135409494
Wow what a waste of time then

>>135408080
>i think
>where are proofs
>i think
i dont remember, i would provide links if ii remembered where i read it

>>135409412
Did you get any unlocks for doing the Escalation missions?

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Is there a way to zoom with the sniper on xbone? Is there a way to zoom with the sniper rifle at all? I'm not sure if I'm just missing come crucial controls, or if the default scope is just really shitty.

Do you think we'll get vampire magician as an unlockable suit in the future?

Where's the disarm device?

>>135416324
you can look through the scope but not magnify it further

>>135416402
That would be really cool.

>>135387656

>-OSP runs

I have a lot of fun doing this, but I think it makes a few levels impossible, particularly curtains down. Honestly, it gets pretty trivial once you find any one-handed weapon because you can still just proceed to human-shield the fuck out of everyone

>>135420784
You can get a handgun in Curtains Down without any effort.

Where is the thing to disable lasers located? I thought I'd be able to disable each one I came across but no prompt comes up.

This is for the Paris escalation level 5 btw

We need more scoring categories to differentiate good play from great play.

No neutralizations (pacifications or kills) is an obvious one.
What else would work? I thought about no disguises but it wouldn't play nice with contracts and escalations.

>>135425542
Well, it sure ain't inside the security control room, cause that shit's lasered off from all sides.

>>135427750
I think score penalties are antithetic to most people's enjoyment just on a psychological level, every time you see a minus you get someone saying "why is the game punishing me for having fun!"

An easy fix that achieves roughly the same thing while allowing room for escalations and contacts is giving a small bonus for every costume change you come in under 10 (or any appropriate number) calculated like this

> (K - c) * P = Score
Where K is the number of changes allowed for the bonus, c is the number of times the player changed in the run, and P is the points multiplier

So say if you change costume 3 times you get (10-3)*100 = 700 points, for instance. This means that in escalation that requires one costume change minimum there's a possibility of up to 900 points available to all, or alternatively there could be freebies assigned (a disguise change buffer in instances where disguises are necessary for a hit which would make the formula look like this:)
> [(K - c) + B] * P = Score

plus it neatly avoids people feeling like the game wants them to be playing as dryly as possible. Same system could easily be applied to Pacification

>>135429438
I wasn't proposing score penalties at all. I don't mind the one for non-target kills but I don't think we need one for anything else.

This is a good alternative to a "no disguises" bonus, though, and I could see it working better than a flat bonus for no neutralizations. In fact, now that you've suggested it, I'd like to see it applied to all the categories currently there, so there is some difference in score between "one body found" and "20 bodies found." One of those is a mistake while the other is genuine carelessness, and we should definitely distinguish between the two.

>get email survey just now
>asks about human shields and 47's briefcase

Don't fucking toy with me IO I want fucking human shields back in

>>135430183
When it comes to bodies found, I think the difference between 1 and 0 should be huge, that's a significant difference in terms of detection. From 1-x could be much more incremental

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>there are people who don't finish the escalation missions in the Vampire Magician costume
Also how come the escalation challenges aren't ticked out even though I did both escalations to the end?

ffs, those cameras in the vampire magician escalation totally fucked me in the ass.
The first one was easily noticeable (the one on the attic door), but then, sneaking around the second floor I also got filmed once and of course didn't notice until I failed.

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So its going to take months to grind this out?

>>135438176
>ffs, those cameras in the vampire magician escalation totally fucked me in the ass.

Just start in the basement and take out the evidence first thing.

>>135438465
Wait, you have to take out THAT evidence thing? And I assumed the nearby things contained the specific camera's evidence. Well fuck me, seems like I have to resort to plan B and just shoot the fucking things. No way I am going all the way up from basement just to go down again.

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Is there some hidden thing I'm missing here? I finished both escalations already.

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So all this talk about the new Hitman made me want to try Absolution for the first time, since I've had it sitting on my library for some time after some bundle years ago.

It doesn't seem *as bad* as everyone makes it up to be...or maybe I'm just trying hard to find good things about it.

>tfw not even enough money in debit card to buy the game because poor student
fug

>>135441406
>$15 amazon gift card from xmas
>amazon accidentally lists hitman for $15

gold

>>135441406
Absolution, just like conviction, is a perfectly good game. People really only reacted the way they did because if that was going to be the new normal for the franchise, then it would have lost a lot of what made it unique. If conviction and Absolution were marketed as spin-offs they'd have been much better received.

>>135441406
Absolution blows its load early with 2/3 of the actual assassination missions being near the beginning (King of Chinatown and the stripclub level).
It gets worse as you go and you start to realize just how awful the story is and how much it dominates the game.
There are also a couple of levels that are just a loading screen, an interactive setpiece, and then it's over. They're awful.
Overall the game is a mediocre stealth game with a truly awful story.

>>135441820
>a perfectly good game
Hell no.
It's okay, but I'd never go so far as to say "good."

>>135441820
>No more Michael Ironside in Splinter Cell
>Instead some unremarkable young generic voice actor
It still hurts

>>135438465
>the reward is tacticool smg with artic camo

Literally why? It doesn't fit the aesthetic of any of the Hitman games at all. Just give us weapons from previous games if this is the best they can do.

>>135397129
See>>135378551

>>135383464
Challenges only unlock if you see them appear during the mission summary.

If you checked your challenges list and it's ticked it means absolutely fuck all because that list is what is bugged as fuck. I had never even finished Showstopper with SO and I had both SASO and SO ticked in that list. After starting up the game another day they were no longer ticked.

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Not really feeling Escalation mode. Killing the same dude 5 times in a row is just boring. Especially if you found a good routine the first time, then it becomes just repeating the same thing several times in a row.

Also, what was the solution to this captcha?

>>135378551
that's a shit strat
>go to the right
>hop the other side of the fence
>head to the locker room
>head up to the chess guy
>wait for him to leave
>kill the bodyguard
>hide in bathroom
>change outfits
>get vodka, safe key, slides and poison.
>if KGB is in the safe key room just kill him there and hide body
>poison left glass and place vodka
>put slides on the projector
>solve chess puzzle
>kill kgb while chess is puking guts out
>hide body then leave

>>135443928
The vampire one was bad like that, but the one with the sheikh's bodyguard was good. Had to switch up my plan completely at least 3 times during the escalation.

>>135446392
I just started as the waiter and destroyed the evidence immediately each time. Just sniped him from behind the limo in the parking lot each time. Only time I had to do anything different was the laser?

Odds of them removing this Online Required to play a single player game bullshit?

>>135448802
The official Hitman twitter implied they're looking at moving challenges offline. It's obviously not something IOI is in love with.
But it's ultimately Squeenix's decision.

>>135448510
I wanted to get SA so I couldn't snipe, his body would've been found.

> finish the requiem escalation
>take nearly 15 minutes to do the last level because when I got blown up the first time I got the shit s scared out of me so I take it slow
>it doesn't show up as completed
>neither does the first escalation
JUST

>>135451935
Redo the level 5 escalations over and over until you get the notification at the end that you got awarded the Feat for completing it.

>turn on a sink
>some security guard is searching for me FOR THE REST OF THE MISSION
He REALLY doesn't like when people leave the sinks on

>>135452883
can't afford the water bill

What will guards find if they frisk you? Do I have to drop EVERYTHING or can I sneak in my fiber wire or something?

>>135453239
you only need to drop the gun, fiber wire's fine

>Complete 10 escalations

So we'll have to wait 3 months for that shitty SMG?

>>135453239
Fibre wire, poisons and syringes get through fine. Mines, explosives and any firearm will be found (don't know about the duck though)

>>135453239
When you go to a garbage can, anything you're able to conceal is findable by the guards

>>135448904

Got a link?

I wouldn't mind weighing in.

>>135452142
Do you mean do the whole thing over again or redo the last level?

>>135454973
Wait nevermind, I read that wrong. Thanks.

>>135454536
I looked a few times and I can't find it.
I hope I didn't imagine it.

got a question. If I want to do challenges can I create a save-point before killing someone with a specific technique (like let's say the challenge requires me to kill my target with a pistol and a separate challenge requires me to kill the target by drowning). So after I killed them by drowning I finish up the mission until I've gotten to the mission end screen and then load up the save-game and kill the target with the second technique to finish the second challenge.

Does this work or does the game not save it?

>>135459225
That's a good question. I know that for a challenge to be awarded you have to finish the level, but I have no idea if starting a fresh play and loading afterwards would work. I'd test it out but I already completed everything.

You might as well give it a shot, worst case scenario is you wasted a few minutes.

>>135459225
This works. I did it with the safe room challenges and the Decker challenges.

http://gamingbolt.com/io-interactive-confirms-that-they-are-already-planning-for-hitman-season-2

Season 2 confirmed.

>>135462801

Good. I'm being serious and I do honestly hope they have at least considered a Season 3 before a Season Finale.

>>135462801
>>135463175
So is this better or worse than Hitman becoming a yearly series?
I'm wracking my brain and I can't figure it out.

I'm certainly happy about this, but I wouldn't be happy if the announcement was "Hitman is now a yearly series." What's the difference?

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>>135381014
>Legitimately doing something

Fucking...do people really still think this in TWO THOUSAND AND SIXTEEN

>>135444532
>All that unnecessary shit
>Better strat

Jesus christ anon. The first one is timed so that KGB, Chess guy, and guard are all in the safe room at once. KGB goes into the bathroom, Chess guy leaves and soldier follows. You can literally headshot him while he's walking past the bathroom door then open it and headshot the KGB looking in the mirror.

>>135453879
Knife is fine at least as an auction guard it is.

>>135467676
always online

>>135467676
People like Absolution because it's a passable stealth game. There really isn't much to hate if you aren't a Hitman fan. It's especially likable if you're a mouthbreathing retard and you think the story is good.
People don't like HITMAN™ because it has poor performance and is episodic.

>>135467814
I've still never been dc'd. How shit is your net? Are you on wireless?

so.... should I get Manhunt if I liked the Hitman series? They seem similar enough

>>135468563
I think they're saying that that's what people think. After all, how easy are knee-jerk reactions as opposed to giving things a fair shot? I've personally only been full on dropped once, and there was a time where it wasn't wanting to connect right away.

is 47's suit black or charcoal?

>>135471172

I'm confident it's black.

John Wick's suit is charcoal but that's not related to Hitman.

>>135457216

lol I had a bit of a look through and couldn't find it, but there's plenty of people voicing their annoyance with the current system and the general tone to the conversations on both sides is that there's a problem that needs to be addressed.... and once people start having their Elusive targets ruined by shitty servers I can imagine a whole lot of people getting pretty worked up.

>>135471172

Definitely black.

>>135470971
The fact that it's even a thing is enough to scare people away, and rightfully so. Really hope it can be dropped.

What's the difference between 47's Signature Suit and the Absolution suit?

Contracts vs. Blood Money
What made them great, what made them suck?

>>135472930
can't tell from the icon, but it it might be a slimmer fit than the signature, and may have the tie clip from absolution

>>135473798
I was kinda hoping the suit would be all dirty and messed up since 47 went through some shit during Absolution, cleaner looking suits could come from Blood Money, Contracts, 2, and Codename 47.

>>135466217
Best strategy here.

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Not going to lie, I'll miss this score bug that gives people 210k points for zero seconds spent. Once that's fixed I'll never see a high score again since I like taking my time to make extra sure my hits go down perfectly, or if no disguise is required I like taking more time but going suit only for the added challenge.

>>135470971
I have a rather slow connection.
When someone else in my house is using the internet, it can get really slow. Have some kind of download and I can't even get to the main menu because this fucking thing apparently needs to send several megabytes of data everytime I start up. Quit after the 7th failed try.
That is just not acceptable for a single player game.

Make sure you point out in the feedback survey that you want Contract Search functionality so we can make lots of /hg/ contracts to share with each other!

>>135474290
How do you even achieve that bug?
I've done it a couple of times but i don't know how

>>135474672
Honestly I've got no idea, I just go for all 5 rating points all the time and sometimes I get it, sometimes I don't. Hell sometimes I even get it despite not having a 5/5 rating.

>>135474117
that might be the case, I was always confused about whether the jacket 47 was wearing during the hotel level was his normal jacket looking disheveled or some other jacket

Holy fucking shit, I totally fucked up.
>vampire magician
>killed the targets
>disguise as cicada to gtfo
>run out of the right attic
>tick tick tick
>RUN as fast as possible to the cellar
>destroy evidence just as the sec guy looks
>doesn't matter, cicada on stairs had spotted me before anyways

ffs, and this was supposed to be a no-seen-no-anything-run.
8:22

>>135474392

Having this exact same problem and it's pissing me off to no fucking end.

I can play The Crew and tons of other games with actual Online features perfectly fine with housemates using the net, downloading, torrenting, streaming, youtubing ,whatever.

But i'm constantly failing to even connect to the Hitman servers at the main menu of Hitman if there's any sort of serious usage on my connection, and playing actual missions is just fucked.

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>do a quick run of Paris because I'm bored
>get caught sneaking in the attic and escorted out
>distract Diana's guard and got for a choke
>fail and end up just punching him in the face instead
>get the never spotted bonus in the end

>>135472930
Major difference would be that 47 has driver gloves.

>>135477386
A REAL HUMAN BEAN