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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, March 15th:
44 BC – Julius Caesar, Dictator of the Roman Republic, is stabbed to death by Marcus Junius Brutus, Gaius Cassius Longinus, Decimus Junius Brutus and several other Roman senators on the Ides of March.
221 – Liu Bei, a Chinese warlord and member of the Han royal house, declares himself emperor of Shu Han and claims his legitimate succession to the Han dynasty.
493 – Odoacer, the first barbarian King of Italy after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, is slain by Theoderic the Great, king of the Ostrogoths, while the two kings were feasting together.


>News
HOI4 DD 48
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-48th-development-diary-11th-of-march-2016.913075/

EU4 DD 25/02
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads%2Feu4-development-diary-25th-february-2016.910409%2F

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>EU4 - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2

>>[CK2 - 2.4.5] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - 7 Years v0.1
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.3.1 - 10/03/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.5
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[HoI3] YAMDaM v0.54
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md4tzqe2gg6stfv/

Old Thread >>135184578
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting,
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Nicholas the second Tsar of Russia
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Reminder to shit and ignore reportposting,
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Reminder to encourage bureaucrats and build liquor factories.
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how long before a mod which replaces earths pops with aryan ubermensch. i want to build a fascist empire in space
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Can I genocide the natives as Oranje or Transvaal?
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>>135240473
>liquor factories
how to spot rob: the post
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I'm so sorry I reminded them we existed, lads.
t. BIG_BENIS_IN_MY_ANUS
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>>135240710
Fuck off back to your containment site
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who is this qt
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>>135239963

Actually that's a decent idea - you eat the Overseas Territories, socialist government lets you accept Black Anglos and then afterwards Black Anglo African countries can also start the move towards Commonwealth integration (possibly with a lot of anger back home/only if they're sphered or puppets).

India is basically an impossibility though, they haven't governed themselves poorly enough to want the British back. Irish are similarly a no-go.

Should Afrikaans be accepted if you manage to integrate South Africa? I don't think they'd be happy about the Brits being back.


>>135240239

South Africa goes from Afrikaans/White Anglo to Black Anglo/White Anglo. The Xhosa, Zulu, Tswana, all those people just get fucked over no matter what.
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>>135240894
>Alberta Barbosa.
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>>135240574
If Hitler won he should have made all Slavs into domestic cuteboi fucktoys for the Aryan men desu
Castrate them early, pump them with estrogen and brainwash them into sissy slaves for the SS settling the east ~
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I wanted to thank everyone in this community for being so open and kind - it's not an uncommon sight to see a post in this general with same-sex couples, and no one really seems to care. As a member of the LGBTQ community, person in an interracial relationship, and gamer, it's really awesome to see.

Also a huge shout out to Paradox for creating a game that respects diversity, and allows players to be who they are. I remember never being able to marry who I wanted in CK1, and that really bummed me out.

I think we also take for granted the small things in the game, like the interracial relationship between Ivar-Snake-In-The-Eye and Al-Mansur, the humanity that is afforded to the Mongols (which a lot of white people don't get), and being able to customize your gender with things typically associated with the opposite sex (my man is wearing ear rings, haha). This game subtly and strongly deconstructs a lot of social norms that many games simply uphold without a second thought.

I think all of this really lines up with the patient, community-focused messaging of the game and I love it. Thanks to all <3
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>>135240951
>The Xhosa, Zulu, Tswana, all those people just get fucked over no matter what.
Just like real life.
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>>135240894
WE
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i wish henrik fahreus was my dad
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>>135240574
>Emperor Duwango, why is it so important to you that our colonists are so diverse?
>because it's 2216?
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>>135240951
>Should Afrikaans be accepted if you manage to integrate South Africa? I don't think they'd be happy about the Brits being back.

Of course not. If this whole project happened, which it never would, in the globalist commie kike world the one unifying factor would be the English language.

Are you the creator of the mod? If not this is pointless as he'll never see and implement these fixes.
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>>135241716

I'm not the maker of NWO, but I'm floating ideas while fixing up the cluttering union decisions like that one anon wanted.
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>>135241929
Yeah, shame this will never get in the actual mod it's good shit.
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>>135242184

I can just throw what I've made at their GitHub as an 'issue' and see what happens.
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>>135242474
Wow, you really are a top lad. Does he regularly take suggestions?
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remember to post dh related stuff
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WUZ
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>>135240962
>tfw Slav
>tfw would sign up for this future
>tfw I need to fap now
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>>135242651

Just had a look and it seems like he's been taking them.

His loss if he doesn't, really.
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How do I retake Poland as Krakow?
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>>135243187
I really hope he takes the progressive Unification decisions onboard, the decisions tab is cluttered as fuck.

Is CANZ entirely your idea or was it in the base NWO?
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>>135243613

Its implementation is my own work, I can't claim any credit for the idea. Vanilla NWO UK just gets to form the EU and possibly conquer CANZUS if it wants more accepted pops.
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Why aren't my steel factories profitable
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>>135243813
Not sure if you could do this but perhaps make it so the EU has European primary and every culture accepted for a while, then just European primary.
Hilariously the only people who'll be European are the African/Asian immigrants who'll assimilate.
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>>135244148

Wouldn't be too difficult, but it's getting a bit broad in scope. I think I'll just finish off the Commiewealth and send it in before making other changes.
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>>135244280
add a Trump event for the 2016 election
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>>135244496
The Modern Day mod for DH has that already.

Anyway, what's the current version of the NWO mod for V2? 1.0.3?
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>>135245373

1.0.4 is the one I'm working with right now.
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>>135245448
Do you have the direct download link for that by chance?
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>>135245567

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0i_pAZe5kNURWtWalI0Wjdlbkk/view
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Why aren't my liquor factories profitable?
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>>135246664

>liquor
>unprofitable

That just doesn't seem right.
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Reminder
http://pastebin.com/AAyNYcxg
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Does anyone have a copy of the most recent HPM version will work with pre-patch Victoria 2? It's presumably the one from November or December.
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>>135246890
They aren't for some reason.
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>>135247164

Are you trying to industrialize in 1839 without any tech boosts or railroads
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>>135246664
god has abandoned us
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>>135247325
Liqour is profitable from start, though.
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>>135247325
It's 1870 as Serbia.
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>>135247523
Has China westernized?
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>>135247523

Then I have no idea, unless your railroad infra is really shit

Is Russia currently in a war (assuming you're in their SoI)?
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>>135247631
It's HPM, so obviously not. They're still the largest producer though, probably all the artisans.
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>>135247523
Why isn't it profitable? If you have enough wheat then throughput is the problem, in which case you need to focus on Techs that increase it.
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>>135247886
It says "6.78 of 32.22 liquor didn't get sold yesterday".
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>>135248281

So basically your factories are not efficient enough to produce Liqour compared to other countries in the sphere you are in
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>>135247697
Ah, I've never played with HPM so I don't really know how it works
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>>135248372
What do you mean efficient? I thought every good sold at the same price?

Also, I seem to be importing 12 units of liquor, even though I produce all that my country needs.
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Daily reminder it is your duty to introduce all qt girls you know to Vicky II and HoI3 so this thread becomes less of a sausagefest, and we have more people to laugh at over their shitty uncropped games.
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>>135248497
>212/416
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>>135248465
here's an hpm playthrough

>take everything fun from vanilla
>remove it
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>>135248809
t. rob
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>>135248930
t. hpm/rob/vickymodguy still pretending to be separate people
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>>135249018
t. rob trying to take credit for hpm
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>>135248497
I wonder what percentage of people here actually know any females
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>>135248471
Well this sounds pretty fucky.

First off, if you're subsidising that factory stop doing that right now, contrary to popular believe factories will not perpetually hire people, they will only hire people who make their profit peak, so all the craftsmen producing the 6.78 unsold liqour will be fired. Unless you want to industrialise for the sake of industrialising/score in which caepse keep subsidising it.

As for why you're importing liqour I honestly have no idea, that shouldn't be happening whilst you're still dumping liqour in the ocean.
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>>135249243
I know my mom.
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New colors. What do you think?
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>>135249320
The craftsmen being employed is worth the subsidies though, right?
I've also heard other people say they import goods when they produce all they need in their own country, with machine parts for example.
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>>135249394
who doesn't :^)
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>>135249423

Yes, if you can fix the problem shortly through railroads/better techs, otherwise it's just a vicious circle where more and more craftsmen get employed due to subsidies until your economy implodes
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>>135249423
>The craftsmen being employed is worth the subsidies though, right?
You're not actually giving them subsidies, you're just saying "when this goes to shit we'll supply you" so the factory hires as many people as possible, where as without subsides they'll only hire the amount of people to meet international demand.
So, in short, it is worth it, as it's costing you no money and you get more industry points.

>I've also heard other people say they import goods when they produce all they need in their own country, with machine parts for example.
Really not sure about it, from what I understand about the game mechanics that shouldn't be the case.
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Is Sengoku worth buying?
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>>135249408
Can't even make out the changes it goes that fast.
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Im only good at getting into the top 4 in vicky. I can never get to number 1.
Is their something Im missing in order to get their? I mostly play smaller industry minded countries like switzerland.
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>>135249575
>>135249827
What are some good factories besides liquor?
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>>135250445
Depends on what you produce, what are your RGOs? What are the five most produced good in the productions tab?
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>>135250514
Grain, coal, wood, fruit, and lumber.
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Reminder that EU4 and CK2 are both grand strategy games.
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>>135250569
Coal is great, get some glass factories, build them in areas you have coal.

Coal is also pretty damn valuable to export as well, whilst it won't be worth anything whilst you're in a sphere (Spherelings can not tariff their master, so any coal Russia buys from you will be dirt cheap) some techs from the Metallurgy tab, partidularly clean coal and clean iron will really help you mine more coal.
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After installing HPM, game no longer launches in windowed mode. Checked my settings.txt again just to make sure. I think I goofed with installation.
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>>135250793
Don't tarrifs only affect imports, not exports? It would be cool if they affected exports so you wouldn't give away all your tanks to your enemies, and if you do, they pay dearly.
Are furniture factories good?
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>>135250902

Did you check the settings.txt in the HPM folder as well? Also at least for me just having "Windowed" selected in-game isn't enough, also need to disable fullscreen in the settings file
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>>135250994
Tariffs do affect exports, but not to your sphere master, that's the point of sphering, cheaper shit, also why Brazil is a good sphereling.

Furniture factories are okay, you need timber and sawmills to really make them profitable though.
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>>135251182
I thought the point of spehering was to get a country's goods before anyone else.
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>>135251258
the point of sphereing is to stop other nations from sphereing
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>>135249151
t. hpm still using his own alias to give a boogeyman and deflect criticism
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>>135251182

Tariffs are import-only.

>>135251258

This is correct. Also political reasons, possibility to ally etc.
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>>135251376
>muh grand conspiracies
t. rob
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>>135251059

Yeah I checked both to be sure. Not sure what the problem is at this point. Does it need to be an exact aspect ratio? I run a weird resolution with my setup. Maybe that will fix it.
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>>135251618

I assume the aspect ratio has to match? Never played around with that myself so hard to say. Do you have borderless=yes and fullScreen=no ?
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Should I take all of Crimea as Germany (in Victoria 2), or just Sevastopol? Whatever I don't take goes to my sphereling Ukraine.
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Why can't I, as Ottomans, release Persia when the core exists on a province I control, and the nation of Persia doesn't exist anywhere?
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Is there any reason I can't use the newest version of HPM with an unpatched version of Victoria 2? It seems to work fine.
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How's AGOT 1.1?
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Okay guys i just installed CK2 as EU4 and Vicky 2 bored me a bit so what are must have mods/addons i should get.
What about CK2 plus is it okay for beginer and is moreExecutions Expanded++ V2.5 compatible with it.
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Where can I find CK2 mods without Steam or Paradox forums?

Yarr I be a pirate
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I wanna play Russia in HPM but I don't want to kill myself reorganizing the army. What do?
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I've read all dev diaries for stellaris and it sounds pretty boring an mundane to me. Not sure why I would play it over the selection of very similar games out there or more in-depth games like DWU.

Will probably be a dissapointment again.
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>>135254267
reddit
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>>135250027
this better?
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>>135242869
you're a disgrace
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/gsg/ is there an observe/spectate mode in Vic2? I've taken to just leaving it up in the background even when I"m not actively playing it.
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>>135256104
Yes, Switzerland and the debug fow console command.
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>>135256104
Open up two instances of the game, start a LAN game, have both pick a country like Switzerland that won't get annexed and won't influence the world, then close the player one instance and have the AI take over. You're now watching while the AI plays the game and won't get any events autopausing.
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is victoria 3 ever going to happen?
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>>135240369
>old version of HPM in the OP

great thread, report and ignore autist. for someone who rides hpm's dick so hard, you'd think you'd bother to pay attention to his posts.
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>>135257339
Who cares, it links to his pastebin which is updated anyways.
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>>135257329
I hope not
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Are there any games that cover the English Civil War in more than a passing depth?
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>when the rebels fight off the invaders for you
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>>135259808
Magna Mundi
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>>135260873
>all those enemies
everyone hates the frogs
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>>135260873
how do you even suck this bad?
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>>135252038

Man, I thought this was some kind of fantasy map inspired by the Iberian Peninsula for a second there.
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>>135261163

better shut the fuck up before i make you cum in my ass
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>>135260873
A-are you the colonization lad? Which country are you going to play this time?
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>>135260898

Magna Mundi is a mod for EU3. I fail to see how that constitutes more than a passing depth.
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>>135261904
How new are you?
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>>135261163
I'll get them this time sempai

>>135261824
;^)
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Does anyone know when the HPM British culture minimod will be compatible with the latest versions?
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Anyone got a good strategy for Sus I'm EU4?
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>>135262176
How many frogs went to colonies?
Also try to turn as much of africa as you can to states
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>>135262926
A fair amount, though more are going to America. I'm in two wars right now, with Austria and Prussia and they both have about half of France so neither can force me to the peace table even though I'm 100% occupied, so I can keep this up as long as I want. Probably going to release around 1860.

Which borders should I go for? what I have now, the red line or the green line? I don't want all Indochina.
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>>135260873
You did that on purpose, didn't you?
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>>135263270
WHY ARE YOU A SECONDARY POWER AS FRANCE
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Fun fact: changing South Africa's primary culture from Afrikaaner to Black Anglo is done by decision, and therefore skippable.
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>>135263270
Green is better
How much africa have you taken?
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>>135263514
He's just helping colonial migration lad cant you see it?
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>>135263270

You should get even more migrants if you make them states.

And green.
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>>135263514
Because I'm a pro victoria 2 player sponsored by madcatz.

>>135263612
None, I even let the dutch take the Ivory Coast, I'm channelling everything I have into Indochina.
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>>135263514

>He thinks dipping to secondary is an issue
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>>135263676

To be honest, it's like encouraging Intellectuals in most states at once, since everyone promotes to jobs the government can fund.

Plus, as Russia you can pass all the reforms you've always wanted to pass, like healthcare.
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>>135263667
You can also take that thai bordering state for nice round borders.
Post migrations map
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So why do we have 2 threads?
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>>135263676
>>135263667
What effects do Secondary Powers have that Great Powers don't?
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>>135264250
They have lower score, duh.
They also can't sphere other countries and have a smaller bonus to RP.
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>>135264250
>>135264319
They can also go for congo in hpm
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>>135264250

None, but the only thing you really lose is a handful of prestige and RP.

If you're really looking to populate an area (or in the case of Russia, looking to get rid of illiterate peasants and modernise) it's perfectly alright.
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>>135264395
>>135264319
I don't know what RP is supposed to mean :^)
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>>135264727
role playing
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>>135264148
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>>135264727
Rob posting
actually it's research points
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>>135264883
oh fucking christ I feel retarded now, thanks a bunch pal
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>>135264859 >> >>135240562
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>>135265206
Yeah, but why? It wasn't even linked in any live thread. It was made 2 and a half hours ago, long after the previous thread died.
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When will France minimod be updated for new HPM?
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>>135265541
never ever
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>>135265541
He said in last thread that he will update it after he adds some new things in it not just bugfixes
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>>135265557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMvmoTkfzv8
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>>135265308
Just some paracucks from reddit shilling
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/gsg/ I've been reading about economy/industrialization in Vic2 and most of the guides I've come across are clearly written for people with more understanding. Is there a discussing of these issues geared for knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers that are used to playing hex-and-counter wargames?
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>>135265772
Economy: put your education slider at maximum, army and navy sliders at 20% and admin slider at whatever you can afford. Tax your people enough to not lose money, if that's not enough use tariffs.

Industrialization: Build railroads and liquor factories. Liquor is always profitable so it's a great way to jumpstart your industry. Later you should experiment with different goods and chains of factories as they give you higher throughput.

That's about how I'd sum it up really.
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>>135265772
Encourage intellectuals to 4% unless you play prussia then craftsman after you hit 20% lit and clerks after 50% lit. Build liquor factories
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>>135265974

But tax the lower classes more, as my rich capitalists need money to invest in the economy? I should've paid more attention when I was reading the Chartist Papers.
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>>135266197

Early game yeah.

Late game they're rolling in money so you want to tax them and nobody else - your poor pops are happy, everyone's assimilating as fast as can be expected, the excess cash is buying more factory goods and making everyone richer, blah blah blah.
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>>135266197
Early game you're gonna tax everyone, because early game laissez faire fucking sucks and you pretty much need to build shit yourself.
Later in the game yeah, I like to tax the lower class the most and the upper the least, but I don't go overboard with differences. I will tax the rich at 30%, mid at 50% and lower at 60% for example.
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>>135266197
Capitalists are shitters.

Just tax everyone and build your own stuff. You know better than the capitalists what you want and need.
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>>135266428
Capitalists are still great for building railroads and upgrading factories in the mid and late game.
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we may be an illiterate agrarian shithole but this has been surprisingly fun

Weird game so far. NGF got destroyed early on and lost Silesia, Lubeck and Holstein but somehow held onto Neuchatel, which you can see in the screenshot. Austria grabbed silesia but lost it to NGF patriots. They then got bashed so hard they turned into a democracy.
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>>135266550

Grab all the tax efficiency techs, throw interventionism on, and tax capitalists at 100%.

They'll still make tons of dosh and build railroads all over the country, and you can run your entire government off rich taxes.
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>>135266608
t. Garl Marx
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>>135266585
an old screenshot of switzerland getting pissed off. They ended up getting invaded and never did recover their lost land.
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>>135266646
>>135266608
More like t. Bernie
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>>135266686
south peru has somehow become the premier destination in south america. germans make up a plurality in this province.
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Stellaris gameplay at PC Gamer Weekender.
Video was taken out on official channels on Johan's request because it should have been published after GDC.
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>>135266585
>no moldova
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>>135266726
>>135266646

More like t. Vicky 2 desu
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>>135266792
another old screenshot of Asia. Heavenly Kingdom white peaced with Qing but ended up getting annexed later. Fujian still exists in 1874 and has actually expanded.

>>135266814
soon. the russians have been the decisive factor in me getting me other cores back. The other GPs are only now starting to overtake them in terms of military tech. I'll probably look towards Germany when the time comes to take Moldova.
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>>135266808
>human is black man
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>>135267007
It's 4016
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>>135266952
Keep going lad
Also try to get gp status and form yugoslavia as puppet
Egypt is good choice for colony
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How many flavors of mana will Stellaris have?
I sure hope they'll keep up the trend of having one type be used for wildly different things so you have to make nonsensical decisions
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>>135267041

From a genetic standpoint it's highly unlikely there will be black people in the far future.
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How do I deal with catholics as Japan? Can't convert them to Shinto, but also can't seem to convert to Catholic as a state religion and keep getting these annoying revolts. What do /gsg/?
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>>135266808

There is a stat for Alien Slavery Tolerance.

Oh boy.
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>>135267148
We still don't exactly know, but there's a lot of numbers on the top bar. So I'd expect at least 3 kinds of mana.

>>135267263
Fall to them, become Catholic. Or endure until you can take religious ideas.
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>>135266726
>>135266646
Hes right you know?

You can check the amount of money your rich strata has in the pop screen, I had games where those 0.5% of Capitalists had like 20-30 million dosh among them. You can tax the fuck out of them and they still upgrade shit instantly and get all their needs, it just keeps them from stockpiling money that could be used otherwise
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>>135267560
Yes, I know. But I play Vicky to genocidally roleplay, not powergame by taxing only the rich. Hell, I've never even really gone commie in any of my games.
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>>135267405
I just did try to fall to them, but they didn't change my religion just the autonomy for the Christian provinces. So that's my question- how do I get them to convert me?
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>>135267924
I don't know, I don't play EU4.
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>>135262321
It already is
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Goals? Boarders?
>>135267924
Dont you have to accept demands of the rebels?
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>>135267669

Commies wouldn't tax the rich with a low-intervention market, they'd just shoot the rich.

What you're actually doing is taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor so they can give it back to the rich. I've seen the needs of everyone in the nation get improved by it.
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>tfw Stellaris could potentially be cool with a 40K mod
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>>135268068
Modest borders would probably be the Empire of Mexico, but really you should just blob. This is a blob game after all.
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>>135268068
>Dont you have to accept demands of the rebels?
That's just the thing, it says I can only accept the demands if I'm previously Christian already. This is an endless fuck up I tell ya
>>135268016
Thanks anon
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>>135268190
Ill go for the entire Pacific ocean.
>>135268238
Then I guess you have to let them take everything.
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>>135268109
But would the international Jewry allow for such an efficient system to exist IRL?
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>>135268270
Take both coasts leave everything inside uncolonized
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>>135268238

Apparently there should be a Kirishitan Conversion decision once Catholicism ends up with over 60% of your provinces, but that's hearsay because I also don't play V2.
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>>135268281

It's essentially what a bank is, a way of taking money off people who won't spend it to give it to other people who will and taking the profit for yourself.

The problem comes when taking the profit is more important than keeping the money flowing.

That and V2 pops have perfect market knowledge and instant product delivery.

t. armchair economist
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>>135268515
What if banks had a no-interest policy?
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>>135268745

They'd immediately go broke from staff costs, building rent, administration, computer servers and so on.
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>>135240369
What version of CK2 do you guys play with all the memery that surrounds Conclave?
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>>135267405
Looking forward to using my mineral mana either on research or on reducing revolt risk
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>>135269148
I stopped playing when whorelords came out
CK2 is shit anyway, just play EU3, V2 and HoI3
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did HPM fix colonial migration, the 1848 event chain, civil war chain, and etc yet?
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>>135263270
Lad pls don't stop posting
And honestly, annex Vietnam plus Laos fully.
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>>135269316
>colonial migration
What's wrong with it?
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>>135269140
What if they were state run?
Could that support a no-interest policy?
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>>135249408
Yankees look too much like Slovenes now.
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>>135269356
I took a break to make breakfast and mod in the released country, shouldn't be long now.
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>>135269484
Then you'd have to have more taxes to support them
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Why are casuals hyped for Stellaris? It's just EU4 in space
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>>135269439
I have an overflow of people that won't migrate to my colonies despite having the penal colony reform and encourage immigration in the colony and emigration from my province
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>>135269316
Those weren't broken, only the liberal revolutions stuff
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>>135269941
Immigration is chance, they migrate or they might just emigrate

HPM also made so pops are very reluctant to move to deserts and tundras
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>>135269936
Casuals love eu4
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>>135269936
Because they're excited for everything made by Pair of ducks, even if it's just a DLC that adds literally nothing.
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>>135270029
Posen isn't gonna Germanize itself, I need the Poles to get out :^)
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>>135269710
Nice, be sure to post pics as soon as you get back, I'll be lurking.
t. >>>135184852
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>>135270063
>>135270087
Fair enough, they also think mana makes it an "actual game" as opposed to a "history sperging simulator"
RIP Paradox
Why they won't just play Distant Worlds is beyond me
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>>135246664
Is Russia dead or occupied or something? That's the only reason I can think of.
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>>135270136
>Posen
>colonies
Non accepted cultures rarely emigrate to the colonies, if at all
It's mainly primary cultures
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>>135270136
I'ven ever played HPM but in vanilla, "encourage immigrants" does nothing to actually get more people to migrate
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>>135270196
Because DW is not maybe by their favorite indie developer :^)
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>>135240369
did they remove the ability to block land units on sea?

I am getting really confused now
been posting here a few days asking questions about these

first I was told armies dont get penalties if attacking general has 2 more manuver points

>get attacked by 2 point general with 1 point general defending
>no crossing penalties

then someone else told me they get no penalty as long as they have more points now this shit happens

>army without a general defending
>enemy army has 2 manuver points(pic related)
>blockaded by navy with 4 points of manuver
>they pass and attack
>they get penalty

whats the goddamn logic on this?
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>>135263667
After decades of civil war and German occupation France is simply no more, the Germans may have retreated but the wounds and divisions may never heal. The local governments, some German collaborationists and some freedom fighters have now exerted control and asserted independence across the countryside.
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Guys, I need some help. I recently bought Horse Lords and Rajas of India for my Crusader Kings 2 copy and I'm having problems. I wanna become the maharaja but I can't declare war or subjugate anyone like in the Old Gods where I had Casus Bellis on everyone, how do I get CBs? Thanks.
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>>135270412
>British Union of Fascists
>in France
>in 1958
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>>135270412
And in the only colony the French held on to, the colony that was a beacon of hope for millions independence is declared too. Long live the Republic of French Indochina.
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Is there any newbie guide for Aurora?
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>>135240574
pretty sure you can make them evolve into a super race of x or y at least thats how I think the system works when you are far away from your "vassals"
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>>135270583
The wiki is good enough to start
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>>135270521
Side effect of trying to mod in a tag mid save game, it's fixed now, I just repurposed a tag I had lying around.
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>>135270395
You can only stop them from crossing if you control one side of the srait
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>>135270642
Didn't even think of that as wikis are ususally useless
Thanks bro
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>>135270583
I miss aurora poster.
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>>135268158
THIS
FUCKING
THIS
GODDAMN

Chapter Master used to be a thing, now it doesn't even have its own thread on /tg/...
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Chapter_Master_(game)
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>Stellaris
>CK2 mechanics
>Master of Orion mechanics
>Vic 2 mechanics
Not sure how I feel.
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>>135270701
that is the stupidest thing I have heard

god knows whats the logic behind this
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>>135266808
holy shit Johan what have you done this time...
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>>135270991
>god knows whats the logic behind this
Johan got rekt in an MP game.
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>>135270991
Retarded multiplayer balance
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>>135271078
dont even know who Johan is

but he must be a total manchild to screw up mechanics
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>>135267403
LIMITLESSSSSSS

POTENTIAL
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>>135271125
Head of Paradox interactive. Pic related.
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>>135270991
Its a pretty good buff for Denmark and Ottomans, well needed.
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>>135270553
Vietnam attacked while I was building my army, luckily I could mobilize enough to kick their ass though. What should I do with them? Bearing in mind annexing them blows my French plurality away.
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>>135270915
maybe because it was shit and way too easy
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What exactly happens now? I can unironically conquer the whole Kingdom?
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>>135267403
The question is, will you be able to breed out the indigenous species(race) of other planets, inter species relationships much?
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>>135271546
Coalitions gang rape you afterwards.
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>>135271546
Quality balance, Paradox
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>>135271321
Well it irks me that there's no decent 40k grand strategy game. The campaign modes in Dark Crusade and Soulstorm are a fucking joke. There's a TW game for Warhammer but 40k gets no fucking love at all when it's clearly the most successful GW franchise, just a shitload of horrible spin-offs since they opened up the licensing to developers other than Relic.

Just awful. I would buy Stellaris if it gets a good 40k mod.
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>>135271314
Just annex them. You'll genocide later anyway.
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>>135271671
>takes all occupied territory

does it mean you only gain what you conquer in that kingdom or the whole kingdom plus anything you occupy outside of de iure borders?
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>>135271701
GW just started whoring out the franchise, who knows what they'll do with it in the future
We're already getting a Space Hulk FPS and a Inquisition hack & slash by great devs
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>>135271889
You get the de jure land plus occupied territories outside
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>>135271125
>dont even know who yohan is
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>>135271671
Do you know how hard it is to get that CB? The leader of the other kingdom needs to be a complete asshole to the pope, or have just used that CB. Thats right, anyone on the map can now take all your shit if you asked for that. Not even get, just ask. -100 relations with the pope.
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>>135272027
Resurgence of MEMEBLOC when?
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>>135271956
>40k fps
Bullshit, it'll just end up being another 3PS like Space Marine. No one knows how to correctly implement power armor and power weapons in FPS format, see Fallout 4.
>Inquisition hack & slash
Reskinned AssCreed, calling it now.

I would also settle for a DECENT turn-based tactics game. I haven't tried Ascension but the first Space Hulk from a few years back was a tire fire.

But yeah mostly just want a good 40k grand strat.
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>>135272075
>-100 relations with the pope

isn't it really hard to get to that point unless you somehow manage to be rivals with the pope?
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>>135272164
not soon enough
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>>135272418
/gsg/ created doge?
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>>135272348
>>40k fps
>Bullshit, it'll just end up being another 3PS like Space Marine. No one knows how to correctly implement power armor and power weapons in FPS format, see Fallout 4.
>>Inquisition hack & slash
>Reskinned AssCreed, calling it now.
What exactly are you fucking talking about?
Space Hulk: Deathwing is an FPS with squad commands like Republic Commando
Inquisitor: Martyr is a hack & slash by the devs of The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing
Go look up videos of them right now
>I haven't tried Ascension but the first Space Hulk from a few years back was a tire fire
Full retard
Ascension is absolutely awesome
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>>135272627
s︂︂m︂h t︂b︂︂h f︂︂a︂m
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>>135268109
>What you're actually doing is taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor so they can give it back to the rich
Also known as the Ford approach. It works pretty well considering it basically created the modern middle class in the developed countries.
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>try to play CKII with that new conclave dlc
>cannot pass any new law because the council is against any change of law
Quite some fun, I will also never be able to change the law of changing laws all by myself because the council has a saying over that too.
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Can I make them my colony-bitch or is it better to just annex Portugal and do that colonizing myself?
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>>135272372
No, I mean you get -100 from requesting the invasion. Though yes, you have to be pretty far into the red to be invaded. there is a base -3 cost, and you have to have 50, and the person you are invading has to have -50, in order for it to happen. I managed to get one during the war between the HRE and the pope, and then saved the pope while invading.
>>135272845
Your people hate you? I can usually get 1-2 loyalists and then you can pass anything as long as you have no advisers.
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>>135272895
will you get vassal opinion penalty if you revoke that guys duchy?
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>a bunch of guides and the /gsg/ thread tell me to get clergy pop up early game
>there is no clergy pop
>supreme confusion
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Are there any good galaxy sims these days? Is MoO2 still the best?
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>>135272865
Annex and do it yourself. If the Portuguese colonized all of their colonies would be Portuguese and you already know how Brazil ended up.
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>>135273046
>>there is no clergy pop
The fuck are you playing, Chinese bootleg version of Victoria 2?
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>>135273046
Are you playing with HPM? He renamed clergy to intellectuals.
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>>135273116
I like Distant Worlds the most because it has functioning economy and I've always wanted to do economics in SPAAAAACE.
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>>135273032
Yeah, as normal
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>>135273046
Why are you playing with mods if you don't even know how to play the game.
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What is better forcing my royal vassals more taxes or more troops ? CKII of course.
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>>135273326

/gsg/ told me to
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>>135273240
It has been ages since I played DW but wasn't its economy simply "tell ships to colonize planets, make infinite dosh with the automatic civilian economy"?
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>>135273403
Clergy and nobility more troops and burghers more taxes. Plus be careful with clergy since if they don't like you they'll give their tax to the pope instead, the greedy bastard.
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>>135273523
>not having a high DIP antipope
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>>135273234
Not the same anon, but whats the clergy in HPM then? I see them populating the factories along with the craftmen.
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>>135273632
I don't want to destroy the Catholic church from within in every game. You have to have unified Catholicism to stand against those bastard Greeks in Constantinople.
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why is that stellaris presentation grill so qt?
>>135273729
lol
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>>135273729
No, that's clerks. They improve efficiency of craftsmen employed in said factory.
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[screams externally]
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>>135273403
troops

more troops = more winning = more territory = more vassals = more taxes
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>>135273819
You could try to break it
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>>135273757
>why is that stellaris presentation grill so qt?
Because I'm honest to god not sure if she was real human being or AI. The way she talked and the awkward phrases she used ("this is first look at Stellaris so you should all feel privileged") and the way she sounded like advanced text to speech program has me wondering how far along did Paradox AI come.
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>bolghars, bulgarian khanate and bulgarian kingdom at the same time

wew тбх
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>>135273819
I hope you're allied to Poland.
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>>135256104
debug assert
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>>135273873
I mean Bulgarians are literally steppe nomads that got forcefully assimilated into Slavs by the power of Serbian dicks.
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Victoria 2 crashes when selecting units, anybody know a fix?
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>>135273870
>tfw no qt robot waifu
Why even live, lads?
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>>135273870
>swedes being assburger and droning on about privilege
whoa...
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>>135273973

That happened to me when I installed the box frame flag mod. Uninstalled it and it's been fine since.
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>>135273910
No, and they are hostile with me, they desire Pomerania.
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>>135274057
>Poland desires land in the HRE with literally 0 Poles
Believable worlds!
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>>135274003
her AI is probably programmed by Wiz, do you really want that?
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>>135274003
>Why even live, lads?
so you can live until the time when there are robot waifus. It's not that far away, everyone is developing better and better AI and Japs are developing more and more realistic robot bodies. Put the two together and you have gorgeously awkward AI waifu.

>>135274034
Have you seen the presentation? She talked like she wasn't even human man. I'm guessing she rehearsed it million times but it still ended up sounding weird (but adorable).
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>>135273819
>letting Commonmeme form
It's your own damned fault.

>>135273873
>Kingdom of Bulgaria
>subject of ERE
For shame.
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>>135274121
rightful slavic clay
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>>135274168
>her AI is probably programmed by Wiz
ew there goes my boner.

>you need to control both sides of her strait to get into her port, if you know what I mean
>heh heh
>guffaw
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>>135274174
I got the feeling she wasn't really comfortable speaking English
That's what it sounds like when foreigners keep thinking too hard about pronunciation
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>>135274168
Oh. Brb killing myself.

>>135274174
I guess you're right, but I personally rather have a my waifu look more like a robot, but different strokes for different folks.
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Guiz! Guiz halp!
>>
Hearts of Iron 4 releases on May 25th (presumably of this year) and will cost 40$.

https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/4aeylo/hoi_4_release_date_possibly_found/
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>>135274037
Oh, well that sucks thanks for the information, back to circle frames it is.
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>>135273046
screw clergy, all you need is bureaucrats and liquor factories
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>>135274352
Somtings wong!
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>>135274352
Eh, that land is all low base tax and big provinces. Funj is most likely more powerful than Wales.

>>135274391
Fuck off back to advertising on reddit, Johan.
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>>135274391
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>>135274168
>tfw I will have to learn how to program AI since I'll never trust anyone else to get my perfect waifu ideal
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EMPEROR RESIDES ON A CARRIBEAN ISLAND. ALL ABORT EUROPE.
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>>135274509
tfw it's actually the Stellaris date
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>>135274291
hehehehehe
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>>135274496
HALP!
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im on my first serious game and i think its going pretty well..

what should i do next, im planning on eating up brandenburg slowly, colonizing further and try to take some indian provinces. china has exploded so i guess i could go there too?

im allied to austria, france, GB and hungary
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We /replays/ now.
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>>135274653

I want you to have a normal-looking world by 1821, with countries and religions in roughly the right place.
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>>135274668
>>135274663
>>135274653
uninstall.exe
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>>135274663
Do the most Dutch thing possible: control 51% or more of the entire global trade by constantly winning wars against major players, taking control of the richest/most important trade province and then take their trade power in peace deal. Rinse and repeat until you control the global trade as the swamp jews were meant to.
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>>135274761
... w-why?
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>>135274734
>ending the game by 1821
My end date is 2821
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>>135274653
>>135274734
>Russia is Mongolia
looks fine to me senpai
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>>135274902
>stuttering
fuck off faggot
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>>135274902
consider suicide
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>>135274950
t. hans
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>>135274962
b-baka
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>>135274950
I mean, even Putin looks like a Mongol.
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>tfw you will never bang the Chinese empress

feels bad man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWZ42FfSXqM
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>>135274902
please stop posting this garbage
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>>135274867
hmm i might try and beat up some of the stronger nations, any idea which idea group i should go for? i got administrative, influence, exploration and economic
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>>135275232
>Shower scene
>She's in a bath
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>>135275232
>tfw you'll never bang Chiang Kai Shek
I want monarchists to leave.
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>>135275323
In ancient Chinese "sho wa" has the same meaning as "bath". Baka.

>>135275328
To be fair he is a qt.
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>>135275276
what is it that makes it garbage? im definitely not doing it on purpose
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>>135275580
this website is 18+
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>>135262176
Is there a mod to make the map look that nice?
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>>135275657
Either Cool Map Mod or Mish Mash Map Mod. Both are in the OP.
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>>135275580
it being EU4 makes it garbage.
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>>135275436
>sho wa = bath
>shoah = murder showers in jewish concentration camps
AT LAST I TRULY SEE
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Is there ever any reason to encourage support for conservatism instead of reactionaries or fascism? And is there even any point to do even that? 0.001% a day seems like fucking nothing.

Also, do important issues" like state capitalism and reforms have an actual effeect on pop ideology? So if the only state capitalism party is reactionary and all your pops want state capitalism, they will become reactionaries?
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>>135275750
Thank you for the help.
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>>135275986
it's not a big increase but compared to the values for party loyalty it's pretty decent, so check out that mapmode
pops with high CON will vote for the party that agrees most with their issues, which makes them slowly drift towards that party's ideology
low CON pops will just vote whatever ideology they're loyal to
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>>135275948
>Shoah is the Hebrew word for being forced to take a shower
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>>135275774
lol
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>>135275986
>Is there ever any reason to encourage support for conservatism
Yes, conservatives win elections more reliably. And you encourage support only as democracies, because this NF doesn't change pop's ideologies, just their votes.

>0.001% a day seems like fucking nothing.
It adds up fairly quickly, but is indeed better to do more useful shit with your NF. That's why constitutional monarchies are so great, you can freely change your ruling party.

>>135276027
You're welcome, lad.
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>>135275986
perfect europe right there (with soviet clients independent ofc)
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>>135275986
Depends on the consciousness of POPs. POPs with low consciousness will vote against their interest or won't care about the important issues while POPs with high consciousness will care about that stuff.
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>>135276229
>because this NF doesn't change pop's ideologies, just their votes.
Does that mean it's useless if the pops have a very high consciousness?
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>>135240962
Slavs have very interesting fairy tales about nazis.
GPO is an interesting fairy tale as well.
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>>135275986
>That Gross Kuwaitiums

Kuwait irridentism when, hpm?
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>>135276349
Frankly I don't know. You should try it and report results.
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>>135240369
IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER EXCITING INTSALLMENT OF PRUSSIA GETTING SHREKT 2: NAPOLEONIC BOOGALOO

after the devastating defeat at slonim, Blucher withdrew with his 19000 men back to danzig to recuperate. This when things appeared like they could not get any worse, the British invade as part of their wars with france. Due to an inability to defeat Russia by herself, Prussia sought to ally with the usurper napoleon, and in doing so incurred Britain's wrathe.

Now, with no hope in sight, and napoleon refusing to assist against the Russians, King frederick turns to peace...
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>>135276513
Oh shit is this from like a week ago? I only said invade Russia as a joke bro
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>>135276513
MoTE is a really shit game t b h
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There will be new Paradox game (I assume Paradox made and not Paradox published because forums are on their website) announced on GDC today called "Project Knight Rider".

The good news is that, with that name, there's no way in hell it's Victoria 3.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?forums/project-knight-rider.933/
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My first playthrough of Vic2 is in progress.

Capitalists really like building railroads, it seems.
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>>135276513
The peace was unpleasant, but necessary.

Frederick gives up memel and his polish acquisitions, and finally the Spanish, allies of napoleon, arrive with 60,000 men to destroy the british invasion force.

Broken, but not beaten, Blucher begins a process of long term reforms, aimed at strengthening the army, while france invades Portugal and bullies the Italian states.

Austria finishes her war with the ottomans, and slowly begins consolidating her forces...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXJnO19i7uA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXJnO19i7uA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXJnO19i7uA
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>>135276683
It's made by Obsidian, of course it isn't fucking V3
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>>135276165
>party loyalty has no relation whatsoever to pop ideology
Am I getting this right
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>>135276747
You should too. Let them build it for free.
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>>135276771
That guy looks more and more autistic every time I see him.
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>>135276683
The code name doesn't really have anything to do with the game itself. Stellaris was Project Augustus.
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>>135276809
what? no
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>>135276864
lol yeah just realized the video was shit

i found it on reddit
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>>135276865
Apparently they already confirmed it's by Obsidian so bleh. I only play quality products developed by Paradox Interactive Studios (ltd).
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>>135276917
>Encouraging party loyalty doesn't effect ideology
>People (with high consciousness ofc) ignore party loyalty and vote for the party whose platform lines up with their most important issues

Seems like it's only useful if consciousness is low which rarely seems to be the case except early on for me.
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>>135277156
dont let them go to school or read newspapers if you want an easily controlled population
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>>135276762
Blucher begins his reform process.

It has become obvious that Prussia's cavaklry corp was a liability, and so it's remnants were absorbed into the main army.

The main army, slowly returning back to it's pre-Russian levels, wilol now become a force of 120,000-150,000 men, within which it will broken down into three corps of between 50-40,000 men. The centre army will be composed of blucher, while the right corp will come under the control of lientz and the left lientzin. These armies will never stray from one another, and will always be within the range in which they can march to the sound of guns

While the Prussian reforms occur, France invades Denmark in he refusal to abide with the continental system, and portugal slowly becomes absorbed by a Spanish-franco force led buy napoleon himself. Massena and macdonald, with a 30-k each force, begin moving into Italy to assist eugene de buergnhais in consolidating his Italian provinces.

Agonising over his lost territory, Frederick begs the emperor napoleon to allow him claims to mecklenberg and hessen.

The emperor refuses, and so Frederick looks elsewhere.
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>>135277156
they don't ignore it completely
it's V2 man, everything to do with pops is percentage-based
anyway, just spam elections and pick the issues you want your pops to follow
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>>135277268
[Jacobins Rebels Intensify]

>>135277294
I'm assuming they do if consciousness is literally maxed out
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Is it gay to play and to like GSG?
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>>135277435
only if you play CK2 and EU4
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>>135277435
History in general is pretty gay. All those buff, handsome man, fighting, competing and interacting with other buff handsome man...
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>>135277417
Nah, people turn socialist and gommie if they have low literacy. If you're a recently westernized unciv you won't see many jacobites, but mostly gommies.
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>>135277293
Austria makes her move, and under the guidance of chancellor Metternich, declares war upon France, while asking Prussia for free passage to pin napoleon's men within Denmark.

Massena and McDonalds men begin advancing through Italy while the main Napoleonic army stay within spain, dragging the Austrian main force into the Italian theatre

This leaves a golden opportunity for Frederick; with Austrian forces invested in Italy, he can force advance rapidly across the frontiers, and take the tons and forts of Austria. With his armies now fully restored, Prussia goes to war...
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>>135277538
>Nah, people turn socialist and gommie if they have low literacy.
And yet it was the gommies that first introduced mass literacy in Russia and China and introduces newspapers available for everyone.
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>>135277587
Why are you playing and posting about a french tech demo from 2013?
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>>135277587
I recently played a bit of MotE
>play Bavaria
>Austria at war with Ottomans
>DoW Austria and start sieging
>get like 6 cities in the peace without ever even seeing an Austrian army
Worst AI
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>>135277676
Yes, but you have to be stupid to actually support communists in the first place.
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>>135277676
and after they did that people stopped being communist and became more of a hybrid.
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>>135277587
Blucher leads a lightening advance across the border, sieging towns and forces as rapidly as he can; he must take as much territory as possible before the Austrians can regroup, and hopefully cause a panic stricken Francis 2 to sign a peace treaty as quickly as possible; let the French die, while the Prussians profit!.

The grand strategy of blucher's army works swimmingly so far, with his army standing ready to hold against any would be attackers. meanwhile, Eugene de burnhai's men, along with Massena and macdonald, have come across heavy resistance, and withdraw to Milan.

A French scouting force watches the Prussian advance, and relays it back to the emperor napoleon.

(will end by January)
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what did he mean by this
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>>135278117
You're posting this shitty meme way to much, lad. It won't even become a thing.
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>>135277971
As blucher pivots towards Prague, Massena becomes besieged at Milan, a somewhat uncanny similarity between his situation during the run up to Marengo in 1800. The Austrians, too busy fighting the French and being harassed by French patrols, continue to lay waste to napoleon's forces.

>>135277808
play hard ai aggressiveness very high, otherwise their horribly indecisive and give provinces away like candy
>>135277794
it's a change from whining a pop spams
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>>135277813
Not really. The situation for the working class was pretty atrocious in 1900 and, from what I've read, lots of historians seem to think that, if world war one never happened, there would have been mass communist/socialist revolutions across Europe that would have resulted in millions of casualties anyway.

It wasn't until ~1920s that things actually started looking better for the working class and until the 1950s for the modern middle class to emerge.
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>>135278117
Nice /brit/ meme
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>>135276747
Yep. Alternatively if they're not building them fast enough you can invest the balance into the railroads they've started so you're essentially splitting the cost.
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>>135278441

Right now I'm trying to figure out why I can't afford to do anything and everyone is unemployed.
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>>135278373
>mass communist/socialist revolutions
Somehow I find that hard to believe. That's just smells too much like yet another out of touch with reality fantasy of Marx, a man who's never worked a day in his life.
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Is this radical enough for you?
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>>135277445

Could you tell me what kind of mods should I try out after vanilla game?
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>>135278421
>Nice /brit/ meme
What did he mean by this?
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>>135278658
HPM is pretty much the best one for a vanilla extended, napoopan's legacy is the best one for alt his
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>>135278314
poor Massena =(

While the Austrians keep investing on the Frenchman, the Prussians rapidly advance on Wien; time is running out for Blucher. With The French expeditionary force destroyed, the Austrians can and will begin to turn to Prussia and wrest off control.

Although Napoleon has ordained to send troops in the corps of Macdonald's 30k at salzburg (who made a very quick getaway from Italy I might add), Frederick has seen too much bloodshed already

2 more pics to go for this year's end to campaigning
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>>135278681
>What did he mean by this?
What did he mean by this?
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How did a pasty manlet like Napoleon conquer Europe?
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>>135278809
Rothschilds to be honest.
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>>135278753
The Austrians advance towards the Prussian siege army, and Blucher prepares for the inevitable.

Yet, what is this? a peace offer from Austria? to hand over the satellite of berg? It appears that Austria has chosen to deal with the more dangerous foe now (france), and after successfully beating him, strike the impudent weaklings (the Prussians).

Frederick does not wait for the decisive battle to come, and send his own peace offer to the Austrian emperor, more to Prussia's liking...
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>>135278809

>manlet
>people still think Napoleon was short
>nobody understands that there was no standardized system of measurement and the motherfucker was of average height

I don't even like Boney and I'm sick of hearing about this.
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>>135279209
>people still think this meme hasnt been heard a million times before
yes we get it you stinky 5 ft frog
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>>135279209
don't have a fit napoleon
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>>135278809
he ruled France before its population numbers mysteriously went to shit
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>>135279209
He was actually taller than average for his time. But the Brits used the difference between French and English feet to spread propaganda about Napoleon being manlet because that's what Brits do, they're always jealous of the far superior French.
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>>135279026
thus ends the Prussian wars of aggression.

In frederick's now found policy of opportunism, cowardice and greed, Prussia has successful acquired large swathes of Austrian lands to compensate for the rape by Russia of her rightful clay.

As Blucher rides home from wien with his unmolested army, his fears begin to rise; how effective would the newly reformed Prussian army REALLY have been? it didn't fight a single large scale battle, relied upon the French diversion, and declared peace as soon as it was able. Blucher hopes that this blitzkrieg opportunist strategy is not a sign of weakness or impotence, but of mere pragmatism

only time will tell.

regardless, with the Prussians out of the battle, napoleon sends the bulk of his army into Austria, and 100 thousand Frenchman arrive to begin the austro-franco war

this ends this years campaigning
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>>135271314
How's it going m8?
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>>135279289
France, because of it's geography, quality of soil, position and so on, has all the prerequisites to be a pre-industrial superpower. Which it was. It was pretty much only through the combined work of Brits, Dutch, Germans, Italians and Spaniards that France was contained.

However, once the Industrial Revolution happened France lost its position and the imba state in Europe became Germany with its ridiculous industry and population numbers (IIRC twice the population of France in 1914). And that's why Germany fought in ww1 and ww2 - it was trying to capitalize on its position and the most powerful industrial country in Europe.
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>>135279360
How much MP do you get a month?
Also, next time you gotta start forcefully unifying Germany
Is there a decision to form Germany? I don't remember
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>>135279489

But the Germans are shit at being a world power and instead of getting anywhere they just gave us a few decades of warfare and opened the door for Communism in Europe.
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>>135279360
>where the fuck is napoleon?

well, napoleon's busy beating the shit out of the Portuguese and trying to take cadiz with 40,000 men.

France is pretty well blockaded at the moment, but fortunately the British and the Russians haven't declared war anytime soon to drain his manpower supply

the 50k moving out of cadiz was napoleon's reinforcement force to help fight the Austrians, thus we see them suddenly pop up out of Austria.

also, the Spanish army, seemingly absent from spain, is holding the northern coasts of prussian and Denmark in case of british invasion. Don't ask.

done
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>>135279489
>imba
Nice, very Warcraft 3 ca. 2005
>Germany with its ridiculous industry and population numbers (IIRC twice the population of France in 1914)
Exactly my point. I think no one is really sure why France's population numbers didn't grow in line with all the other industrial powers and that really fucked them up
>>135279647
Fucking Germans and their inability to into diplomacy
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This probably shouldn't be formable.
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>>135279996
Hope you're not swedish m8 cause im reporting you to the authority for racism
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>>135279996
What game is this you dumb ape
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>>135280128

But we have all the races!


>>135280189

New World Order for V2.
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>>135280189
>asks for knowledge from the dumb ape
>must be dumber then the dumb ape
I guess you must be white
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>>135279562
MP is dead without friends, and you need a LAN link to really connect enough people to get a decent multiplayer going on.

I play occasionally with a friend, and by god if you can role player properly (no "WAAA I ONLY BEEN CONQUERED 99% NO PEACE) then the game is really fun.

it was back in the old days when connecting to paradox games were cancer
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>>135280330
>Coloured
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>>135280385
You must be gay. I am a motor technician and own a family business. Please fuck off before you start to annoy me
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>>135280412
I was asking about your manpower you sillyhead
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>>135280423

Of all the cultures there, you picked the one that's actually real.
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>>135280508
>only smart enough to become a mechanic
Literally 16 year old Mexican drop outs can do that job.
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>>135280609
Don't forget the part where he owns a family business, because being able to inherit your dad's company somehow shows great wisdom and intelligence
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>>135280739
I also forgot that he paid someone to tell him he already knows something so he can get a fancy title. And repeats it at regular intervals.
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>>135280739
>>135280609
t. proud clerks
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>>135280412
also Prussia gets no decisions.

Honestly, mp was god tier if you gave each player early game objectives as the host

Prussia: Become dominant German power
Austria: retake Italy, take Constantinople.
Russia: take Constantinople and Swedish clay
Britain: Beat Napoleon
Spain: take Portugal, invade north Africa

now the fun part is giving the objectives to France, who then proceeds to fuck over everyone else's plans
>re-invade Egypt
>establish the confederation of the rhine
>destroy the British
>enforce the continental system (Prussia, Austria, Russia and all of Europe must be at war with Britain)
>create the kingdom of naples
>create the kingdom of spain
>create Westphalia
>etc etc

having a decent French player basically that si effectively "the bad guy" and causing everyone else's objectives to go to shit eventually always led to great coalition end game. Early game tards that tried to gank anyone that declared war on france often saw themselves wrecked later on by the very same French player, and then ganked by the the player they invaded afterwards.
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>>135280739
Well I mean he did have to off his dad and that takes both skill and dedication.
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>>135280996
>Austria: take Constantinople
Was this ever an Austrian goal?
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>>135280993
My job is a military unit, even if Im not in the military.
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>>135280514
oh MANPOWER, well Prussia has the shittest manpower in game for great powers, I was receiving 3,600 after getting raped by the Russians.

Now however by getting Austrian clay I'm around 4,500 men a month.

Really not enough to fight any great power on its own after facing complete destruction by the Russians, it will take me literally all game to get enough manpower to even consider fighting france or Russia again
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>try and play an england game where I dont get involved in continental wars, just trade and diplo-annex shit and colonise
>end up going on a crusade and take over egypt and the levant

why do i do this?
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>>135281206
>even if Im not in the military.
t. reactionary rebel
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>>135281103
not really, ithe Austrian goal was more to take the Baltic states from Austria, but we needed a conflicting goal with Russia to occasionally force them to attack each other instead of completely gangbanging France early game.

Otherwise it would have just been:
>hey Russia, you have half of the Baltics to Constantinople, I have the other?"
>"ok!"
and thus Russia and Austria had world peace, and napoleon got cucked
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>>135278515
>>135278515
Show budget

If people are unemployed its because there are no factories to work in
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>>135281308
Because the only thing to do in EU4 is blob
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>>135281415
I'm playing EU3
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Vic2&HPM crashes while loading history.
With final patch and beta patch.
Even with cache deleted.
anybody got an idea why?
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>>135280523
>Black Portuguese isn't real
I'll have you know I am 1/32 Moor
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>>135281454
Because the only thing to do in EU3 is blob
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>>135281409
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>>135281384
The goyim know! Shut it down!
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>>135281562
Christ that is horrible
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>>135281527

Black Portuguese isn't an identical culture in both Brazil and Mozambique.
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>>135281562
Crank taxes on your middle and upper class then, and your education spending should always be maxed out if you can. You don't need capitalists.

t.Bernie
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>>135281562
what the FUCK are you doing
max taxes
max tariffs
max education
max military
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>>135281562

Lower admin spending, raise education spending, raise tariffs if you don't have any commerce techs, raise rich taxes.

In the long term, for your economy industry techs and the right hand side of commerce are your friends. The left hand side of commerce is for lazy people who want to let the AI run their factories.
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>>135281562
Do Vic2's perpetually starved artisans have basis in reality
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>>135281820
>>135281910

Raising tariffs doesn't make it harder for people to get life needs fulfilled?
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>>135281562
>he taxes the upper class
>he isn't a mercantilist
>he educates the masses
>he doesn't administrate his serfs
>he "stockpiles"

that's it, I'm done, so many faggots wanting educated liberal shitholes and not enjoying the good old days of slaves and labor
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>>135281976
You seem to have some stowaways from your showa.
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>>135282035
who gives a shit? use the money to build factories and fund your army to keep down rebels
you have to drag your POPs into a higher quality of life against their will
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>>135282098
>showa
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>>135281464
Delete the cache in the victoria 2/map/cache folder
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Sholva kree! Jaffa!
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>>135282043
the way it's meant to be played
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>>135282129
>you have to drag your POPs into a higher quality of life against their will
wew
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>>135282129

I thought the capitalists were going to be building my factories?

The game does a poor (non-existent) job of explaining what these sliders actually do/how they interact with the other systems. I usually just move them around until numbers turn green.
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>>135276762
>horrible oval provinces
NOPE
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>>135282261
>43
wew
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>>135282383
>wanting to be top dog and drowned in liberal shitters and touchy feely democracy when you can just have a shit ton of serfs n' slaves
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hoi4 release date hype
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>>135282261
>24.7%
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>>135282516
multiplayer griffing when?
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>>135282261
>1935
>interchangable parts
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>>135282261
>Hungarians are the biggest nationality
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>>135282574
>wanting peasants to be literate

that 24% are all nobility you filthy pleb

>>135282675
peasants aren't very creative, I just
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I'm playing as Belgium why the fuck are there Jacobins here?
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>>135282748
That's why you stay as Austria.

Dunno why anyone would ever want to accept Hungarians tbg
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>>135282784
>hey guys I'm so /pol/ look at me
>bunch of social reforms
what?
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>>135282920
They want to establish a European Union obviously.
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>>135282784
>Bureaucracy
When did HPM add that? What does it do?

>>135282920
Because they want even more freedom.
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>>135282278
>he can't read
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>>135282784
>Bureaucracy
hello rob
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>>135283028
their not for the peasantry, only the upper classes

I mean, why on earth would you give a serf a pension, or free healthcare?
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>>135282278
Jesus christ son. What kind of government do you have? If you're playing the states then yes, the capitalists are going to have to build your factories unless you elect the socialists. Pretty much any other country you can put a party into power that has state capitalism and then you can build everything yourself.
>>
>move to fabricate claim
>30 years later of doing absolutely nothing and finally get claim
>liege declares realm peace
>character dies
>10 years into heir of doing absolutely nothing and no claim
how did I ever play this game
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>>135283185
yes I'm sure 8 hour work days applies to aristocrats
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>>135282197
still crashes
Is HPM only compatible with the beta patch?
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>>135283185
because its 2016
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>>135283364
If you want to play it as a war simulator, just ruler design yourself a character of different religion than your liege
It's fun trying to keep your liege from fucking you up due to wrong religion and ocne you declare independence you can start holy warring
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Shattered memetreats are fun guise!
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>Slave really does come from slav
I honestly thought this was just a meme
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>>135283350

>playing as Belgium
>look at trade tab
>luxury clothes in very high demand
>luxury clothes factory in Flanders is ~10% staffed
>5,000 unemployed craftsmen in Flanders
>game says I have enough silk and regular clothes for the factory to operate
>luxury clothes factory is insolvent

This is not a good UI. It presumes the player has experience inferring information that is not present in someone that literally started playing a Paradox game for the first time today.
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>>135283574
I don't understand posts like these
Why are you even playing a shit game? What does shattered retreat have to do with annihilating low morale armies?
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>>135283583
It's not. Idiots give "white man" shit for imperialism and slave mastery, but they don't know that white man is the reason slavery is illegal.

>Slavic Destiny.png
Look up Barbary slave trade. Yurop wasn't any better off.
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>>135283784
subsidize it
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>>135283784
Pretty hard to help you when you don't post screenshots lad.

Subsidize the factory and those 5000 craftsmen go to work. The factory will employ who they can afford to employ unless you subsidize them.
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>>135283379
Yes
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>>135283789
>shit game
Look in the mirror, vickyboo.
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>>135283784
>manufactured good in high demand
>not checking the manufacturing requirement goods first
Git gud at planning ur economy, comrade
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>>135282261
>mfw Hungarian is accepted culture
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which is your favourite groß?
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>>135283969
still crashes at adapting history.
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>Danzig is a Polish city
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>>135284791
the fuck is the red thing in sopron/Burgerland?
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>>135284862
>cropping
That's about what I'd expect from a retarded krautboo.
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>>135284980
Independent Burgenland
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>>135285193
why?
That is even more of a meme nation than Székelyland
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>>135285146
It's just a shot on the first day of the 1946 start of NWO, lad
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>>135285305
It's groß
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>>135284791
>kebab removed
>constantinople reclaimed
yes i love u
now remove tatar bulgars and finish kebab off
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>>135284791
>Burgerland
t.unHPM
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>>135285421
You're still cropping, lad. And you very well know how cropping is shunned on /gsg/.
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So how do I make Victoria II work again.
It crashes no matter what I do.
Tried deleting map cache,normal cache,
Beta patch,non-beta pacth,and it refuses to run HPM.
And I need my FIX of v2
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>>135285601
yeah why is that exactly?
does everyone here have autism
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>>135285601
You're just a fucking autist though. There's no reason not to crop, it makes the point of the image more obvious and saves space
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>>135285652
uninstall.exe
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>>135285743
Know know very well why people dont crop. Its to prevent someone from going "Heres what I made! I worked so hard!" and hiding the cheating thats blatantly obvious on the side, like the date.
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>>135285743
yeah i got told off by some kid the other day about the same thing too

>>135285904
and why do you give a shit?
let people play whoever they want, no need for "le anti cheat crusade"
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>>135285836
Is the full patch(3.04) standalone?
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>>135285706
Because we want to see your stats and laugh at you if you're bad. Also cropping is often used to hide cheating.
>does everyone here have autism
Is that even a question?

>>135285743
>it makes the point of the image more
Are you retarded? You can clearly see what he has highlighted even on a full res screenshot.
>saves space
You want a Vegemite sandwich, m8?
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>Danzig is a Polish city
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>>135286039
If I want to take a screenshot, my internet is shit and i dont want to wait for lightshot to upload a full res 1920x1080p screenshot for 5 hours, then download and upload here again
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>>135285904
You can edit images that haven't been cropped either famm :^)
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>>135286020
Its fine if they want to change something, just tell people. I started an 800 point custom nation in EU4 because I wanted to be the aztec empire without converting. Thats fine. But if I come on and crop it saying I conquered everything, when if I didnt the date would say other wise, it would be disingenuous.
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>>135284003
>playing eu4 and calling other people's taste bad

This is what terminal retardation looks like
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>>135286250
Is danzig supposed to be your edit? Because its trash and you could have just change ownered it to do a better job.
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>>135286208
That's what .jpg is for. 1080p .pngs are indeed quite big.
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>szeczin
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>Create Duchy of Munster to become Petty King of Munster
>Actually become King of Mumu
>>>>>>>Mumu
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>>135286383
Lad are you literally austistic?
First off, that's the nationality map mode, Poland already has it's modern borders. Secondly, it's meant to be a fucking joke edit, I don't know how I could've made my post more obvious.
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>>135286532
Nice mumu
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>>135286647
he's butthurt because you triggered his autism on the cropping incident
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>>135286039
>You want a Vegemite sandwich
Yes please my lad

ps sorry for cropping :^^^^)
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>>135287180
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>>135286532
>My son's wife wants me
Literally a mumu
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>>135286447
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>>135287315
I read that as "my wife's son". That would be more of a meme.

>>135287364
Kill yourself cheater.
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>>135287315
Just like in my Ming's risque painting.
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>>135286447
<3
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>>135287364
>Takes up 13% of the space
>No obvious quality degredation

jaypug is the way of the future tb h
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>>135287532
t. HOI3 custom start
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>>135287473
No this is my wife's son.

Although he looks like a fucking potato.

I didn't know she had a son when I married her pls no hate
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>>135287645
>>135287620
>>135287532
"stop enjoying the game because i dont like the way you play!!"
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>>135287620
>all those artefacts
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>>135287620
t. facebook
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>>135287778
>Not wanting research bonuses
lad step it up
>>
dead thread

thanks rob/hpm/vickymodguy
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>>135289684
quick, revive the thread
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>>135240369
in hpm, are there any events that give lands to balkan nations from the ottomans without a fight? what breaks them?
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>>135289684
I can only thing about how to fix V2's shit economy for so long before I want to kill myself.
>>
uhh how do I git gud at NWO
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>>135289869

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_of_Berlin

read a book nigger
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>>135287734
Just admit you're cheating laddo, it's less humilliating and more honourable.
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>>135289869
rspnd pls
>>135290101
genocide your people for being unproductive. honestly what the fuck i am watching. unless there is some meme hidden modifier...
>10% administration
encourage bureacrauts. and get some techs. what the fuck honestly.
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You heard it here first folks, allowing guns on planes lets people run around nude. We have to bad those guns, think of the children!
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>>135290146
are you calling me a nigger?
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>>135290536
>safety -8.8%
I love this meme.
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Is the Papal States viable in Victoria 2?
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Is Sengoku actually fun?

The idea of CK2 but in Japan makes me froth at the foreskin
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>>135290798
Yeah, you get to form a theocratic Italy.
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>>135290536
What is this shit? Looks like Democracy but worse somehow
>>
Is it possible to change a state name from the save files in Victoria 2?
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>>135290536
>>135290738
The things was allowing people to carry weapons n a plane. So they let people bring bombs on the plane to use against people who take bombs on a plane. The retardedness of this game is astounding.
>>
Is HIP for CK2 still good ?
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>>135290993
www.nationstates.net

Welcome to marxism.tumblr.net
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>>135291095
How else are you supposed to defend against those terrorists if not with a gun?
>bombs
I think you misread, lad, it's guns.
>>
Ahoy me m80s
I yarr'd vic2 but can't download dank mods from the forums because they require you to actually own the game for some reason
Can anyone upload New World Order for Vic2 to mega or something?
>>
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After blood,sweat, save scumming and some luck Austria will soon become the Emperor of Germania. As it should be
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>>135291450
Literally just google it
Its on a github linked to the wiki
https://github.com/simsulla/nwomod/wiki
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>>135291361
Thats what you think.
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>>135291246
Is this online? Why do I need a password?
>>
>>135291528
Why you still didn't claim your ancestral land Aargau?
>>
>>135291632
Fucking commies and their "satire". I swear.
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>>135291246
The forums are good though, there's many redpilled people.
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Which one is the best?
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>>135287620
go away with this /g/-tier autism
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>>135291678
Google it. I dont know whats wrong.
>>135291835
Maybe half of it that Ive never seen. Ive only dived into the side that think that all nations should have manditory sex ed, because think of the children and their horrible horrible mean parents ho wont let them have it.
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>>135291913
Rightful Italian borders.
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>>135291913
Right one.
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>>135287315
>My other son's wife wants me
wew
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>>135292073
Adding a bit is fine, expanding is fine. Blobbing is not.
>>135292198
Favorite hair type in the game, go for it
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I've been fucking around try to see what the best option is for the south, I declined the Webster-Ashburton treaty, and the UK declared war on me (I lost purposefully, but not withing sending tens of thousands of Yankee pops to their death)

I've only built railroads in the south, and I plan to demolish all northern factories when the south secedes blah blah blah

Only problem, since losing this war, Whigs/Liberals will now have 96% in an election, and somehow New England applied for statehood

what do i do lads
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>>135290830
Pretty sure there's a mod for CK2 that is set in Japan. Just try that family
>>
>>135292291
Well, the problem is that these are the großest Italian borders that are aesthetic at the same time. Italy can't really expand without looking gross.
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>>135291913
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>>135291913
Drop the extra and make a trade post in Tunis.
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>>135292539
Is that a Swiss colony in Tunis?
>tfw no Swiss Kongo
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>>135292539
>switzerland with sea access

ewww lad
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>>135292930
Schweiz must be groß!
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>>135291913
>>
>>135293281
>no Malta
>no Rome
>s*rbia has sea access
0/10
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>>135293281
großslovenia?
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this is best Italy

trust me, I'm italian
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Playing Wales on CK2 HIP mod.

How do I change the title name from 'Brenin' to 'King'?

I've poked around the directory but can't find anything.
Can someone help? Much appreciated.
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>>135293693
Fixed. Why are split countries so sexy? Germany was a mistake.
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>>135293693
If they are all vassal/puppets/client stats of Rome I'll agree.
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>>135293936
ticino is lombard m8

>>135293953
nice meme ahah
>>
>>135294140
TICINO ES SWISS
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>>135293936
>>
This event needs to be in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Santo_Domingo
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>>135294274
literally why would he say this
>>
>>135294398
It was true. Don't you remember his nickname of Honest Otto?
>>
>>135294398
because he was a smart kid
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>>135285601
Cropping is legal on start date, it's only shunned when we can't see >214/616 and >5 and other funny memes.
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>>135294398
Because he realized he did the worst thing possible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY
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>>135292198
>Betrothed my homosexual daughter to the prince of west francia
Will their kingdom fall apart once he has no children?
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>>135295515
They will have kids, don't worry
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FUGGGG ;DD
>>
ck2 homosexuality should have three (or two) tiers: "hidden", "suspected" and "flaming faggot".
>>
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MATES
A
T
E
S
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>>135295763
>+.20 infamy
Does that mean that you will get inevitably declared on by every single GP in a while?
>>
>>135295931
>4th in industry as USA
>>
>>135295931
>91/335
>4
>2
>Gonder-Tigray
>>
>>135295990
Looks like it
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>>135295763
>no other options
>All pops in South Africa where culture is Afrikaner will become 90% more Populists
>+0.2 infamy when the peacetime modifier is -0.1
>prestige -0.1
Holy shit this is even worse than playing as Egypt in that meme mod
>>
>>135295931
>Gonder-Tigray
>Amhara
>Easter Island
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>>135296076
>>135296121
Literally my third game lads give me a break desu and tell me how to deal with the gommie shits

And give me some tips on how to git gud if you can

>>135296336
This is my Africa desu. What's wrong with it?
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>>135295931
>railroad on Easter Island
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>>135294140
>that mouse arrow
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>>135296534
Capitalists like to build things lad
>>
If I lower the taxes on lower class will pops promote to bureaucrats faster? Trying to turn a colony into a state but bureaucrats are promoting painfully slow.
>>
is a Finland game in unHMM even possible?
>>
>>135296513
To deal with commies increase literacy and pass social reforms, most of them are positive. And it's not like fighting rebels is hard. There may be thousands of them, but that's all irregulars without any techs, you're gonna fucking slaughter them.

>And give me some tips on how to git gud if you can
Encourage clergy up to 4% and don't blob into fucking African as a new world nation.
>>
Hosting V2 MP

Vickymod download: https://mega.nz/#!Y1xWTbpT!F2r1R_wA-bpyZfr-9QcW90OU8nENYx0hOncgQkmrDqg

Checksum: BWRM

IP: 73.209.35.116

Make sure to clear your cache, and have both the map mod and vickymod activated
>>
>>135296513
>vanilla
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>>135294140
I cannot stop laughing. What is it with spics and The Simpsons?
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>>135296513
>>
>>135296807
>>135296807
yeah give me a moment
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>>135296667
How much accepted pops do you have there?
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>>135295763
>>135296186
So basically Afrikaaners are fucked no matter what.

It's a cruel world for the white races.
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>>135296807
can this be trusted lads?
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>>135296932
>Afrikanneers
>white
You only think their white because of all the nignogs surounding them sempai
>>
>>135297050
If you want to play MP with a child who cheats and cries when he loses, then yeah, trust Rob.
>>
>>135296781
Why 4%? My literacy is 97% with the standard 2%+ clergy. Also why not colonize Africa as much as possible?

The commies aren't necessarily a problem but the rebellions are constant. I had all of my armies at war in China, and while I had one or two stacks blowing rebels the fuck out at home they still managed to win. Caught me off guard but it is fairly annoying to have them all rise up more or less annually at this point.

>>135296816
What mods should I get and why?

>>135296869
rude
>>
>>135297261
>Why not colonize as much of Africa as possible
You're already powerful enough as USA you don't need to blob anymore you ledditer
>>
>>135297261
>Why 4%? My literacy is 97% with the standard 2%+ clergy
Because you'd hit 100% faster with 4% clergy.

>Also why not colonize Africa as much as possible?
Because you're not standing any gain from it really. All you did was securing a bunch of slightly more valuable resources. It's just land to administer without any gain. You might as well just sphere countries and you'd get the same advantages.

And why the fuck were you at war with China?
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>>135292198
>Marry off my grandson
>2 days after wedding
>His wife wants me
This is getting silly
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>>135296928
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>>135297261
>What mods should I get

HPM
>>
>>135297548
They dont really want you. You just think they do, and youre really really good at seducing people.
>>
>>135297548
Also it should be mentioned that whilst she is 16 I'm like 68
>>
>>135297075
>Afrikaaners
>Not white
proofs
>>
>>135281562
In the first half of the game your admin efficiency is gonna be shit enough that the real tax rate is going to be significantly lower than what it says. If your admin efficiency is 20% than even 100% tax will only give you 20% actual tax, which is pretty reasonable for all three classes.
>>
>>135297197
Rob?
is this guy casual here?
>>
>>135297564
Unfortunately having slaves slows all kinds of promotions and demotions.
Also, do you have the transportation reform?
>>
>>135297564
Yeah, that's indeed ebin. But 6% Swedes is not really enough.
>>
If I want to win as CSA, should I bother with Manifest Destiny as USA?

also should I release New England?
>>
>>135297869
Fuck I didn't know that.
Yea got it, I keep warring Russia and letting them occupy the homeland, just went from 5.1% Swede to 10% in this war. Was hoping to release by 1850 but maybe I'll have a solid majority by 1860.
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>>135297734
First of all, it's Afrikanneers you retarded fucking ledditor.
Second, no their not fucking white! Any thing outside North America and Western Yurop can't be considered white, and any thing outside tje US and Poland specifically can't be considered not degenerate while atit.
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>>135297963
You should only build Dixie brigades.
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>>135296807
Game postponed for an hour due to a player being busy. Will repost when we are preparing to start. Lobby will remain up for anyone wanting to confirm that they have the right checksum and can connect.
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>>135298141
Yeah, that's what I've done, but you didn't answer my question fucknut.
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>>135297534
I'm at 97% and will hit 100% literacy inevitably within the next few years and I'm well ahead on techs. Does 100% offer anything or does it simply satisfy autism?

Africa hasn't caused me any problems so far and it's easy to defend. I honestly don't see the problem.

>>135297460
Colonizing isn't blobbing lad, my CONUS borders are pristine.

>>135297630
What does HPM add?
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>>135298094
>didn't realize I could declare war again immediately after getting a white peace
>tfw Russia offers white peace every time
Well I guess I'll just constantly get occupied then, I should be at +50% YES in no time.
>>
>>135298182
Yes, you should. And you should turn all of the colonies into slave states.

>>135298210
Just kill yourself you fucking faggot.
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>>135298273
Close factories and destroy them afterwards, having no factories in a state helps to boost colonial migration IIRC
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just genocided the germs as National France in KR. Whats it like to play as legation cities/Russian empire?
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>>135298120
>Afrikanneers
>their
>!
Leave you cancerous wankstain. Afrikaners are whiter than yanks you muppet.
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>>135298402
alright lad
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>>135298473
Yea my plan was to do that once I had made Somaliland a state with a factory, then close everything in Sweden.
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>>135298120
>>135297075
>he thinks this isn't white

I'd be willing to bet she's whiter than 95% of people here.
>>
>>135296807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_-qftDlSww
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>>135296772
Yes, why you asking?
>>
>>135299286
Blood? Yes. Skin? No.
Im half mudslime so Im not white, the one drop rule and all.
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>>135299286
>>
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>ywn fight for the south
>>
>Boers are Niggers
Jesus christ, fuck off reddit
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>>135299286
>>135299489
>>
>>135297564

The fuck, shouldn't those Swedish farmers in Zeyla be part of the same pop? What am I missing here.
>>
>no dev diary for CK2
>viceroys still full-on fucked by council bullshit
>viceroys probably technically defying the will of the emperor by attacking other viceroys
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this company
>>
>>135297564
>>135299752
Holy shit you're right, I completely missed that.
>>
k o j a k lyfe
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BUILD WALL!
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who /radicalyugoslavia/ here?
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>>135300461
Imagine being Kojak in that /vg/ general and having to be all like "damn, HPMGuy, your mod fuckin' fine, all sexy with your historical events and that horrific railroading. I would totally play multiplayer with you, both my online persona and the real me." when all he really wants to do is play another Darkest Hour WW1 game. Like seriously imagine having to be Kojak and not only post in that general while HPMGuy flaunts his disgusting mod in front of you, the new event pictures barely concealing the blandness and overpowered Prussia, and just sit there, thread after thread, hour after hour, while he perfected that Persian slave population number. Not only having to tolerate his monstrous fucking Germany but his haughty attitude as everyone in the thread tells him he's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, YOUR GERMANY LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch his blobbish fucking Europe contort into types of GrossPrussiums you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been playing with nothing but a healthy diet of furry modders and American fathers and later alleged shitposters for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Spain. You've never even played anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sense of superiority that's coming out of his tripcode as he puts it on to post an update at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to post there and revel in his "historical (for that is what he calls it)" project mod, the mod he worked so hard for with /vg/ anons in the previous months. And then the Archive anon makes another thread, and you know you could diplo-annex every single person in this room before the /vg/ moderators could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Kojak. You're not going to lose your future career as a 4chan janitor over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>135300461
These guys are.
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>>135298094
What's this meme? Africanums Rhodesiums?
>>
>>135300461
Ovdje brate! Kad je Tito govorio "najjači smo zajedno" svi ste mu klicali. Kad nas je Tito vodio d pobjede protiv fašista svi ste mu klicali. Kad smo obnavljali državu svojim rukama i svojim znojem svi smo bili zajedno, svi smo bili brača. Ali kada je Tito umro kada je počela kriza, kad su se jebeni gasterbajteri počeli vračati onda se sve promjenilo, Nije više bilo bratsva i jedinstva, zajedništva i te srži jugoslavenstva. Onda ste se prodali za poderane gače četnicima i ustašama i lopovima i popovima svakojakim i pretvorili ovo močnu državu u vukojebinu europe. Majku vam jebem nacionalističku, religijoznu, popovsku. JUGOSLAVIJA I TITO ZAUVIJEK ZA SVE VIJEKE VIJEKOVA. ŽIVIO DRUG TITO i SOCIJALISTIĆKA FEDERATIVNA REPUBLIKA JUGOSLAVIJA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7KoJxSgSc
>>
>>135295763
>shameful laws
So much for this being the neo-nazi mod.
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>>135300813
This is the most ebin thing I've ever seen, what mod is that?
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>>135299441
>picture of woman with white skin
>she has white blood
>but not white skin
What am I reading? I literally do not understand it.
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>>135301314
Its not. I put eu4 on random. Got this stuff.
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>>135300961
WE WUZ VIKINGS

This is taking forever
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>>135301578
Truly we live in radical times.
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>>135301451
I dont have white blood. Im mixed. She is white but tan. The tan makes her skin darker then mine. Therefore whiter blood then me, but darker skin. Not that hard.
>>
>pops with more consciousness choose ideology over ißue
Wait so the "smarter" people get the more they'll stop voting for what they want and start voting for identity politics? What is this memery?
>>
>>135301735
>She is white but tan. The tan makes her skin darker then mine
What the fuck am I reading? Are you literally completely retarded? Like not even ironically retarded but full on retarded?
>>
>>135301793
Realism.
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>>135254267
steam, but look in descriptions, as many have dropbox links
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>>135301634
If they occupy here, will my people still migrate to Somalia?
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(experiment)
Seems that fascist dictatorships arent that hard to produce...
Almost had one in the 60s.
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>>135301963
You're Sweden, you should encourage Somolians to immigrate to Sweden
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Should I give this cucked Italy Trent and all of Istria so they start willing to ally me as well as release Slovenia as a puppet or would this defeat the porpuse of becoming le epin grossdeutschland?
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>>135301963
Fuck
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Is Basque pronounced "Bask" or am I retarded?
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>>135302183
why not both
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>>135302176
>allying Italy

yeah because when did that cost Germany two world wars
>>
>>135302183
How are you saying it now?
>>
>>135302435
Bask
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>>135302435
Bask
>>
>>135302435
Baskweh
>>
>>135302435
Boncskey.
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>>135302536
Oh, I thought you were going to say Bass-quay or something. It's bask.
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>>135302435
Bask
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it's time me mates

ok me mates itssa time to lern to waggle your own willies.youve come very far in the willy academy of waggling and its time for yer finaltest...accounts for 70% of your final willywaggling grade!!!!!!JUST WAGGLE YOUR OWN WILLY AT YER COMPUTER RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!! GET A COPY OF THE BEANO OR YAHOO SOME BIG BOOBIES!!!!!!!! I LOVE TO WAGGLE MY WILLY And so should you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MY WILLLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MY WILLY IS GOING TO EXPLODEOHYESMEMATES ;) AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>135302435
Bass-quay

>>135302536
>>135302605
>>135302627
>>135302636
Fuck off, you're not me
>>
How do I make my pops not be liberal pieces of shit/commie trash?
>>
>>135298210
>What does HPM add?
History.
>>
>>135302808
Kill them
>>
>>135302770
Fuck off, you're not me.
>>
>>135302183

What else would you pronounce it as ?

"Bas-qué" ?

Of course it's "Bask". Not that this is a relevant culture nowadays
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>>135302868
>tfw no ideological genocide option
One job, HPM.
>>
>>135298210
HPM doesn't add anything except for bloat events and reforms.

99% of the mod is taking shit out of the game to make it more """historical""". Essentially it's a railroading mod that doesn't penalize you for having fun, but makes it technically impossible.
>>
>>135302050
Typical post world war American completely failing to understand anything but convincing himself he gets why people were in favor of the Nazis.

For one thing his basic premise is completely wrong - 99.99% of the German people had nothing to do with holocaust, death camps etc nor did the Nazis particularly emphasize such unsightly aspects of their rule in their propaganda or speeches. That was for soldiers, who were already fighting a war, and the highest leadership.

For another, his entire thing about drilling and discipline is bs because it explains how Nazis RETAINED power but not how they got it in the first place. In order to explain that you would have to actually place yourself in the shoes of an average German in 1929 - 1933 all the various social aspects that are generally ignored (for example: the Nazis didn't invent anti-Semitism, it was very wide spread across Europe including in the UK and France, nor did the Nazis invent the fear of communism; in fact fear of communism was so powerful in the west that western powers did more than pay lip service to the left in the Spanish Civil War which allowed Franco, who was heavily supported by the Nazis and billed as an "anti-communist" to win).

Other factors are, of course, the sheer depths of The Great Depression combined with national humiliations that preceeded it, the total chaos in the political system throughout the 20s where it was effectively a war between political parties and the secret wishes of the masses for more orderly system that made more sense, general resentment of a very insular Jewish community by the majority German population because, especially in the times of great economic crises, they were seen as profiting off the back of Germans and they were seen as getting very rich while the average German starved in the streets.

You would have to consider all those factors AND MORE before you could begin to understand why Nazis took hold like that in Germany.
>>
>>135302435
Bask but it's Bask in my language, not sure how to pronounce it in English.
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>>135302757
>>
>>135303043
Bosk
>>
>>135302435
>How are you saying it now?
shithead rebels
>>
>>135303043
Besk
>>
>>135303043
Boosk
>>
>>135303186
haha DAE Eu4?! xDxD
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What's the better mod for CK2, HIP or CK2+?
>>
>>135303392
...I meant this dumbfuck

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_nationalism
>>
>>135303043
Bisk
>>
>>135303020
This basically sums up my feelings about the mod. The mod is only so popular because autists get hard-ons when they see history recreated in a video game, exactly as it happened. It's not necessarily a bad mod, per se, but he removed a lot of the fun nation forming decisions and expansion options because
>muh history
Personally, I wish he would make a separate version of the mod with just the balance and quality of life changes and none of the railroading events and such.

UNHMM had promise at first and looked like it would do just that, but now it's just turned into a submod filled with memes that no one plays.
>>
>>135303547
hip cuz ck2+ rebel system was bugged that one time i tried using it
>>
>>135303564
Nationalist rebels are, erroneously, more active in EU4 than Victoria 2.
>>
>>135303547
RIP futa mod
>>
Swedemalia here, do I have to wait for the decision to organize Somalia for them to have Swede as accepted culture? Just released them as a test and its only Somali.
>>
>>135303929
Yes.
>>
>>135303995
Alright I guess there was no need to rush then
>>
>>135303547
Both are decent mods. CK2+ is more gameplay oriented while HIP is more history oriented. The map in the latter is a custom map that for the most part is better, at least in Europe. Everything in Africa and the Middle East is shit though, with tiny ass provinces, ugly looking borders, and annoying wastelands. Not to mention the tons of new provinces completely destroy performance on a game with an already bad performance (although I think they made a submod that removes parts of Africa and India). CK2+ adds a few provinces in Africa, but otherwise is mostly like vanilla. The only problem I have with it are the disgusting looking country colors.

Overall, I prefer CK2+ since its compatible with the EU4 converter and I never know when I want to turn a good CK2 game into a megacampaign.
>>
Reminder to keep an eye out for the new thread and get the first post before the autist
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>>135305217
delete this post
t. cobra
>>
>>135305217
Okay.
Or I could just make the new thread and post the 2nd post myself.
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Do you think Paradox brought with them the qt AI waifu to the presentation in GDC or was she left plugged to a socket in a wall in Stockholm?

I want to hear her text-to-speech voice more explaining various systems and whatever new game they announce there.
>>
Holy shit!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

>Throughout the 1840s, J. Marion Sims, who is often referred to as "the father of gynecology", performed surgical experiments on enslaved African women, without anaesthesia. The women—one of whom was operated on 30 times—eventually died from infections resulting from the experiments. In order to test one of his theories about the causes of trismus in infants, Sims performed experiments where he used a shoemaker's awl to move around the skull bones of the babies of enslaved women. He also addicted the women in his surgical experiments to morphine, only providing the drugs after surgery was already complete, in order to make them more compliant.
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Lads it's super Tuesday. Have you voted?
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>>135305674
Literally who?
>>
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>>135305562
Also, and not to be a Parashill, but there are now three reasons to like Paradox.
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>>135305674
I'd do my part to MAGA but I'm a fucking leaf
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Holy shit one character can have a lot of grandchildren.

How far away to they have to be related before they start marrying on their own?
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>>135305809
These are Swedish women. Stay alert!

>>135305674
I live in Aztlan. It's not election day and my vote will be wasted, but I'll vote anyways
>>
>>135305809
She looks like a feminist.

>>135305838
>not shilling for the religious fanatic canuck
>>
>>135305674
>being an american

>>135305643
It's not something that's often discussed because of American controlled media but Hitler was great admirer of America and actually based a lot of his stuff on American 19th and early 20th century history. US had one of the most advanced and developed eugenics programs, US had racial categories with pure white being at the top with everyone else being denied rights, US had effective slavery in the South up until 1960s, US carelessly expanded west, displaced indians from their own territory and then locked up the indians in camps and settled their territories with white settles etc etc

Hitler based Lebensraum and German colonization of the east on America's Manifest Destiny and American colonization of the west and displacement and genocide of the natives.
>>
>>135306031
They have to not be in your court
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>>135302050
>>135303023
T b h Fascism is easy as fuck to create.
All you need is a charismatic leader + resources + tons of shills

Also as strange as it sounds most people don't follow political ideologies but rather strong leaders and then adapt their viewpoints.

As with most totalitarian systems Fascism is a giant fucking circlejerk.
>>
>>135306031
They wait until grandpapa dies and then they all start fucking each other.

Also,
>marrying your daughter to a karlist
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>>135306086
>She looks like a feminist.
No SHE looks like a feminist. Mehrnaz there looks cute.
>>
>>135305278
Legacy of Slavonia update when?
>>
>>135305674
>centrism
>>
New thread
>>135306363
>>135306363
>>135306363
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>>135306380
DELETE THIS
My eyes are triggered
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>>135306380
>>
>>135306431
>8 posts early
>>
>>135306431
>no infopic
fuck off rob
>>
Proper thread
>>135307291
>>135307291
>>135307291
>>
>>135254826
yes
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>>135302336
but Italy won both wars
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WEW LADS
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