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This general is for discussing all shmups/stgs (shoot 'em ups/shooting type games).

Need something to play? Check this shit out: https://mega.nz/#!mlwG3ZCJ!NMdWxNY4pjqc1vFGwzyPIbtGor0GHObcfENNMgOQW1s

Join us on Steam! Deathsmiles just started. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/shmupg

>RECENT RELEASES:

Mushihimesama http://store.steampowered.com/app/377860/

Dariusburst: Chronicle Saviours http://store.steampowered.com/app/377870/

Mecha Ritz Steel Rondo:
http://www.3-get.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3622

Deathsmiles http://store.steampowered.com/app/314180/

Battle Crust: http://store.steampowered.com/app/444710

Space Moth DX: http://store.steampowered.com/app/425340

>UPCOMING RELEASES:

Blue Revolver
http://bluerevolvergame.com/

Xydonia http://www.indiedb.com/games/xydonia

iMalice http://amamoriya.gozaru.jp/imalice/

>Don't forget to vote!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=640071250

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=640592545

Please don't let this this thread die again edition.
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Other Taito SHMUPS, like Metal Black, are severely underrated.
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Why is /vg/ so fast today?
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>>135174953
I will keep posting about this game during lulls in the thread until I am unable.

>>135175547
Always fast when I can't make a quick shitpost.
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>>135175961
>I will keep posting about this game during lulls in the thread until I am unable.

Thanks anon, now I can practice in peace!
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I'm supposed to start with Gradius, right?
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>>135176557
>Thanks anon, now I can practice in peace!
I talk a big game, but I can only last an hour ;_;

>>135176882
If that's what you want. Don't feel confined to one thing. Gradius is great, but so are Raiden, and Darius Gaiden, and Gekirindan, and DoDonPachi.
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>>135176882
Sure, you can start where ever you want.
I started with Touhou 11 and now I'm having trouble finding shmups that appeal to me.
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>>135177176
There's tons of Touhou fangames that you can choose from if that's what you're looking for. Games like Concealed the Conclusion, Fantastic Danmaku Festival, etc etc.

>>135176882
You can start with whatever you want to. Don't be afraid to try different games before you choose one you want to focus on. The Shmupmame edition in the OP post has a ton of games to choose from.
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>>135177176
>I started with Touhou 11 and now I'm having trouble finding shmups that appeal to me.
That's actually quite A Thing with Touhou players. Most just stick to Touhou, or maybe branch out into Seihou and Len'en. A few like me go into Cave; have you tried any of their stuff? Deathsmiles, DoDonPachi, DDP DaiOuJou and Ketsui are really good.

You can also go balls-to-the-wall and try out some Raiden. If you're really wanting something to graze in, Raiden Fighters 2 is excellent.
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This is correct, right?
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>>135178462
Yup!
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>>135177857
>>135178305
>tfw should have mentioned that start was 6 years ago
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How do you deal with the need to blog about your shitty progress in a shmup if you have no shmup friends, and no one plays that shmup anyway?
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>>135179106
Mecha Ritz is cool and good. Anyone managed to try/upload Steel Rondo yet?

>>135179180
I just post here. :^)
What game?
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>>135179292
Double Spoiler. Sure, I think the current WR holder is also playing it, but that's like, whatever. I post about it here sometimes but, I feel, at the risk of becoming annoying. My computer won't let me record smooth webms.
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>>135179180
You can post all your progress here! I don't think anyone would have a problem with you posting progress, I actually think it's quite enjoyable to read about other people's progress because it makes me feel like I'm not the only one running into walls and trying to improve. Unless, of course, you are he-who-must-not-be-named.
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>>135179740
No dude, I love reading about your Double Spoilers progress.
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>>135179838
>>135179961
I shall try to get better scores, anons.
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Trying to learn a precise route through a 7 minute long stage without the ability to use savestates is torture
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im seriously thinkin about just stopping playing mof forever since this game is 110% bullshit on hard

>magnetic bullets that will always find a way to my hitbox no matter what
>invisible bullets that you cant see but somehow kill you
>bullshit hitboxes since I get killed by bullets miles away from me
>bullets that will always fuck you up when you are near getting boss killed and getting spellcard bonus
>bullshit level 1 and 2 what you literally cant complete without getting hit or using bomb since they are outright impossible

last week i could at least get to final boss but now this game has become so fucking bullshit for some reason
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>>135179180
Playing shmups can be lonely but I fix that by streaming usually. I don't like to blog here because it feels weird to blog to anonymous people. Also I'm shy and don't want to be recognized. In regards to Double Spoiler, good luck anon!
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>tfw ls-32 shipped
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>>135181835
>They might think that they are paying the greatest among us, the Japanese superplayers, their due by placing them atop this pedestal built off that vague concept known as "talent," when in fact to do such a thing is an insult
Stopped reading right there. To say that it doesn't take natural talent is an insult, since it means that anyone could do this. The person who wrote this is a retard.
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>>135181835
>more sys11 copypasta
These guys need to make their new pastas smaller, god damn.
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Already have Deathsmiles in the 360, how's the pc port? I may be interested if it includes automatically changing backgrounds like mushi. If it's like 360 version however, I'll leave it for later on.
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>>135182272
You think certain people are born predisposed to be good at shmups, and they're almost all Japanese?
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>>135182040
Sounds like you're just burned out. Take a few days off, maybe? Just don't do what I do and take off 2 weeks; you'll be fighting to get back anything resembling progress.

>>135182495
Has better slowdown (supposedly), and has the changing backgrounds. Also comes with all the DLC, unlike Mushi with 1.5 being separate if you didn't buy it that first week.
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>>135182576
More people in Japan play these games, so of course also more of them are superplayers.
To say that anyone could get a WR is fucking retarded.
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>>135183051
The people who get WRs put a fuckload of hours in to get those scores, they don't just shit out records because of natural talent.
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>>135183051
The most dedicated players usually end up getting WRs though. Talented or not rarely has something to do with it.
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>>135183406
Did I ever say that they wouldn't have to practice?
An artist also has to practice a lot, but this doesn't mean that anyone could become a good artist with practice.
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>>135183469
How do you even want to know this? Do you have a list of time spend on games by players or what?

Most people could practice as much as they want. They would never get a WR.
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>>135179180
Just tweet about it.
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>>135183554
Not everyone but definitely most people would be able to become a good artist.

>>135183781
Nah, just a conclusion from watching superplayers stream and reading superplay interviews. It is only by putting in time, practicing efficiently with a proper mindset that you will ever be able to reach your maximum potential. Anything said before you've reached your highest point is just empty excuses.
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>>135183406
>>135183781
You could say that the ability/willingness to put in the time and effort (and practice correctly instead of just wasting time) is a talent.
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>>135183781
Drop by matmouse's stream this weekend while the Mushi Futari BL Original WR holder is playing. He usually goes for at least 4 hours and at least half of his runs die before the end of stage 3.
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>>135181835
Who is this from? lmao
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>>135184364
>Not everyone but definitely most people would be able to become a good artist.
Do you even have any idea what it takes to create really good art? Take a look at the paintings of artists like Louis Royo or whatever, and then tell me again that anyone could do this just with practice.

You wouldn't achieve this level of perfect in a life time. There are things you have to be born for in order to do them. The same also goes for extremely good shmup skills.
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>>135184938
Then why aren't there any babies with WR scores?
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>>135184938
I never spoke about being the best or one of the greatest of all time. I spoke about becoming a good artist, perfection has nothing do with it. Many people have the ability to become competent at drawing if proper routes are shown to them, after that it's up to them how far they take it. Your soul needs Andrew Loomis.
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>>135185353
Are you fucking retarded? Again, just because you need natural talent, doesn't mean you don't need practice too.

>>135185363
Don't act like you could give me any advice about art. I studied art for years.
>I never spoke about being the best or one of the greatest of all time
We were talking about superplayers and having WRs, which is the best of the best. It's the same as with artists. Not anyone can become as good as Louis Royo. This takes more than just practice.
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>>135185941
At best all you're saying is that some people need more practice than others.

So what?
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The answer is BOTH. You have to have some natural in-born talent, and then you have to hone it.

Post about what you're doing and not this same tired discussion. I'm working on adding >>135178462 and the scoring discussion from the now-dead thread into my Deathsmiles route.
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>>135186045
Can you even read? I already said this twice now... There are things you have to be born for.
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>>135186270
>Post about what you're doing and not this same tired discussion
Actually now that I got that CRS 2-ALL I have no idea what to play. I've been thinking of going for Hellsinker, but I did promise an anon I would play DDC after CRS.
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>>135186281
What part of playing shmups do you have to be born for? If you press the right buttons at the right times you'll play well. Everything else is just figuring out how to do the above, if you have a brain in your head, access to the right resources, a good approach and enough time to invest you can do it.
The idea that someone has the inborn ability to press buttons more correctly than others is ridiculous.
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>>135186270
>The answer is BOTH. You have to have some natural in-born talent, and then you have to hone it.
This was just what I said the whole time, but whatever..
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>>135186547
>DDC
Good gam. One of my favorite final bosses in the series. Playing for survival, score...?
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>>135186998
>What part of playing shmups do you have to be born for?
To be able to be so precise in your execution, reaction times, endurance, etc.
Many shmups have a skill ceiling which can get almost limitless. You make it sound as if being the best at a shmup is simple as fuck.
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>>135187234
Playing for survival of course. I suck too much at touhou for anything else, plus I am not particularly interested in achieving big numbers in it.
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Speaking of deathsmiles, is there an agreed upon max scoring route for levels?
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>>135187880
Ah. Bit of a shame, but I don't blame you. Touhou scoring is generally kinda awful. What difficulty?
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>you will never get a shmup WR live in front of a crowd
Why even live?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH0B0H2qy5w
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>>135188856
Normal. To be honest I dont have the patience right now to deal with Seija and Benben on anything higher.
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This was in my first 1CC. I swear I pressed damn power-up button when item counter reached 1000.
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>>135187572
Execution and endurance both come with practice.
Reaction times are a non factor because they only differ by a few tens of milliseconds for the most part, and being able to react that fast is never called for in shmups unless you want to be able to play Psikyo second loops without memorizing anything.
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>>135190505
Happens to me all the time, usually with bombs though.
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>>135190896
Show me your world records and top scores then if you know this all just takes practice.
Just because you can improve yourself through practice, doesn't mean that practice alone is all you need to be one of the bests.
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Anyway to rebind controls for Cho Ren Sha, or should I just Joy2Key it? The buttons on my stick work, but not the stick itself for movement. Also, how to I un-fullscreen it?
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>>135192771
>Deathsmiles
>no death-bombs
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>>135177176
If you really can't enjoy other shmups other than danmaku's, go onto Len'en or Seihou for a fresh experience, but I still urge you to try other shmups. There's loads of them out there and you'll find something that you like.

>>135179180
Eh, people around here give no shits. Post scores/webms/what you're practicing and it's all good. If you have cool stuff or progress to show, that's always good to see.

>>135189329
Well, the next best thing is streaming, so I guess you should stream? I'll probably stream Len'en 4 when it's out honestly.

Keep up the practicing anons!
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>>135193968
You're right, practice isn't enough. It takes years of practice.
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>>135199569
No world records and topscores it seems, huh? As expected, since you just talk out of your ass, and never even practiced anything more than two weeks at most.
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>>135200440
Sorry, I guess I just wasn't born that way.
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Hurray, this discussion still.

Whatever happened to that Twin Cobra stream?
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>>135200776
Yes, like I said, you never practiced anything for a long time, so you also can't judge if practice is all it takes.
In contrary to you, I actually did practice things for a very long time intensively, and I know that I can never be as good in this as many others.
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>>135181835
This might be the funniest, most pathetic thing I have ever read. As much as I love shmups, and as much as I want to improve myself, if I ever meet someone that far gone I hope I manage to laugh until I choke.
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>>135181835
>To a shmupper the need to exist in the 3D realm is a mere inconvenience. He is a mortal man, however, and he must exist in the 3D world until that day when dies and ceases to exist in it and, more importantly, can no longer play his precious shmups. Until that day the shmupper strikes a compromise: while reluctantly living in the 3D world he carefully calculates every action to help his success in the shmup world. In short, the shmupper is a man who goes full shmup.
Now this is autism.
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>>135202528
You should see his twitter
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>>135203857
I will love you forever if you link it right now
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>>135203857
What are you waiting for?
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What's up with the local scores in Deathsmiles?
I'm just playing normal but the highscore displayed in the top right each time I start is always 1000000 despite me exceeding it in my previous attempt not one minute ago.
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>>135203857
>>135203938
Okay love's out the window, but I'll like you a lot as a friend for an extended period of time if you link it soon-ish.
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>>135204845
gusyphus
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>>135204701
They probably fucked up local saving again like they did with mushi

Hopefully third time's the charm
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Hey everyone.

I too, miss having Blackbird involved on our shmup titles, unfortunately, his departure was not something in my hands. I will also not pretend to be the shmup expert he was. As for the lack of a stream. I do admit I would have loved to do a stream for Deathsmiles before release, but that was out of our hands for a number of reasons (that I would elaborate on but they are boring office things). We are though, interested in finding someone who could handle something like streams for us on new shmup releases, as I don't have the experience to really do it justice (or the upload speed, I cannot stream from my computer).

But we are very interested in maintaining a good relationship with the shmup community, and definitely are interested in making sure any issues that are being encountered are resolved as quickly as we can.

I'll talk to the producer tomorrow about getting a good bug thread up for the Steam forum. And both he and myself will try to be as active as we can in this thread as possible. We are not interested in dumping and running. We want to bring over more games from CAVE and other shmup devs, and treating you guys to bad, unfixed ports would be a really bad move, both ethically and well, financially for us. (And I do try to be an ethical person, and I also like the company making money because it keeps me employed).

Thanks for your patience. I know Blackbird was great on shmups, and its a transition. My specialty is not on the individual level, so I apologize that I'm not as up to things on shmups as him (I handle all our community and social media, across all games and game engines we release. My game specialty is a bit in another direction). But our producers are more knowledgeable on the subject, so I consult with them, and will make sure any complaints made make it to them.
...

From System11
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>>135207071
I hope Cave reconsiders its existance and ports something like ketsui or sdoj.
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>>135204701
>>135206269
they didn;t, it displays Today's Scores first, if you hit B it'll cycle to the all time scores, and then it's character specific
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>>135205204
I don't see much good here, aside from him being a big enough sperg to break multiple controllers.

Well, maybe grinding out stage 2 milks in Futari for 12 hours but compared to that copypasta that's nothing.
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Do it for Cave-san~!
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>>135179180
This thread.
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>>135179180
>tfw no shmup friends
I know this feel.
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>>135211023
I've got to do it for better things than that.
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>>135209964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3q76Qxa7jk
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>>135211023
I'm doing it for Reco-chan and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>135211706
Oh, it's that guy. His stream has been linked in this general before.

He should really fix his stream setup, all that echo is annoying.
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>>135212723
He should also stop playing ab palm and save a bomb at that midboss
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Cave and Reco are old news. You should do it for Ikaruga-san!
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Bumping with an awesome Len'en run I posted on the previous thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWiXBYH0o9w
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I'm all shmupped out
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>>135211706
is that gus?
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>>135216747
You're gonna make gus sad, anon.
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>>135216827
Gus is already sad anon.
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>>135182209
Thank you. Luck is absolutely mandatory.
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>>135215241
I don't know if my eyes are going or what, but I have a lot of trouble following where the character is in this video.
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>>135217394
Some spells make that hard. Tenkai's last spell for instance. Still, it's not really hard if you're playing the actual game, though the stage itself is fucked up.
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>>135212723
>>135213145
It's gus, bruh. Make up your mind, he doesn't need to take that shit.
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>>135219392
gus is an ichimen bancho
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>>135217385
Here
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>>135211706
he should really sit up straight
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>>135211936
Well at least he's honest.
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>>135220028
Not even 4k and dick play could make that shit game look good.
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>>135220028
That's awesome.
I found both his playthroughs on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_mNrNX883I Here's 1 player, 2 ships, 1 Hibachi.
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>>135211551
then do it for him
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>>135221031
CUTE
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>>135220319
Who played this and why did they edit his initials out of the vid at the end?
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>>135221893
No idea unfortunately.
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>>135220319
>>135221893
Yeah, kinda scummy to hide the player's initials, but at least there's something.
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>he's still trying to 1cc the game
>he's not playing for score yet
keep on playing your little game of tee-ball while im playing home run derby
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>>135222678
thanks
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>>135222678
Why are you bragging about playing an old-ass TV show when you could be improving in your video game?
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>>135223131
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>>135223131
looks like it was made in mspaint
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>>135223131
>Android
Can't
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>>135223131
Oh shit son. That looks like a... I dunno.
If it's a kusoge, I'm telling you to fuck right off.
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>>135222985
>not spotting the xoxak reference.
You fucking new kids.
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Oh wow, I accidentally almost got third place on royalflare on 6-2 as Hatate. With better pictures 2 and 5 I would have ended second. I guess I do not understand how to get first place without seeing his replay, but it's too early for that. Scene's boring and easy anyway.
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>>135223131
>>135224226
Ok, I'm pleasantly surprised. It's the worst thing ever. But i'ts somewhat playable and even FUN?.
What's your dark secret behind thid;
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>>135223131
>>135226492
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>>135223131
kys
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are there hidden extends in deathsmiles?
also >tfw getting to 3-2 on one credit more consistently
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>>135232643
The car in b-2 if you're on level 2 and it's the 4th stage you play, the ogre on c-2 if it's the last stage you play and you're on level 3 (I think, this is how I get it) and level a-1 if it's the 5th stage you play and all preceding stages were done on level 3. You also get one from Jitterbug if you beat him without bombing.

These aren't so much extends as refills, though.
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>>135233108
thanks!
by refill do you mean it will only fill up a depleted part of my lifebar, rather than giving me another lifebar?
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>>135233372
That's exactly what I mean. Otherwise it gives points.

The one Jitterbug gives will restore 2 health bars, so if you think you can do him without getting hit more than twice it's always worth the attempt.
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Best final boss name in any video game
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>>135236218
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>>135236218
strongly disagree
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>>135236218
>not 光翼型近接支援残酷戦闘機「エヴァッカニア・ドゥーム」
You've got some pretty low standards.
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>>135232643
I believe each mode tells you on their respective title screens what scores are required to earn the extends, but if not then the requirements for Normal/Arcade mode are 20 million points for the first extend, and 45 million points for the second extend. With this you'll have five lifebar pieces, which can then be refilled with the lifeups described by >>135233108 if you've been hit.
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>>135238254
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>>135217018
lol
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In fact, the deadliest bosses of EoSD.
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>>135179180
I've read your blog, because I also play Double Spoiler.
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mfw those compartmentalised faggots that snake across the screen in Mushi after the midboss of stage 4
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>>135237145
This only makes me like him more.
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>>135138979
>>135139260
Useful info from the thread that died this morning, and I really don't want that anon's write-up to go to waste.
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>>135241000
>Icicle Fall
Every single time.
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>>135243270
What about them is giving you issues?
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>>135243270
Don't go for the heads, go for the tails.
Hit the segments just behind its head with the side of your shot to make a space to move into and then shoot down to the tail.
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>>135222678
But anon, I always play for score.

SWY was wrong
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So why does touhou get so much hate here? It gets pretty rough on lunatic and its general design has a nice unique feel to it, at least compared to any arcade shmup I've played.
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>>135251476
>So why does touhou get so much hate here?
You have been in these threads much, have you.
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>>135247759
>stage 1 point collection
>Demarcation
>Cirno's first nonspell
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>>135245726
I went through the past couple threads and compiled most of the information I've written about since the Deathsmiles release and a few other tips here and there. It's a little disorganized but hopefully it's usable. I'll add to it if I end up writing about more things.
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>>135252154
Woaah awesome, thanks.
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>>135252127
>cirnos first nonspell
its genuinely scary desu
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>>135252127
>>135253142
you can savespot the first 3 shotguns if you go above here and make sure that the bow on your back is touching the bow in her hair. after that you should be able to kill it off before the next set of shotguns goes off.
Atleast in lunatic it works, idk about lower difficulties (afaik savespots are smaller when bullets are slower)
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>>135251476
It's because it's popular. Imagine if you loved reading and all anyone ever wanted to talk about was Harry Potter.
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>>135252154
You and the guy that stealth-posts Okuu are my favorite posters in this general. Thanks for compiling that, duder.
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>>135251476
For the site as a whole, because it's popular and /jp/ exists. For most shmup threads, because it's popular, /jp/ exists and most Touhou players rarely have anything to discuss outside of Touhou. For this thread, read >>135251743
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>>135255015
Jp is shit
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>>135184418
Stage 3? Pfft, most of his runs are over already on Stage 1 or Stage 2.
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>>135184418
When you are a WR player you also constantly play at full risk to maximize your score, so of course they die very easily.
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>>135251476
It's gimmicky garbage that also single handedly turned the entire shmup genre into a weeb pandering, pedo promoting, loserville magnet. Now it's all stupid little girl avatars on forums and socially inept weaklings with silly touhou waifus and it has scared alot of the desirable crowd far away from the genre only to leave us with the shit.
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>>135257625
And futair bl original is the definition of risk at high level play, i love how aggressively he plays.
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>>135257742
Not to mention that they also constantly restart when they didn't even die, but just because they couldn't reach the score they want. Doesn't mean that anyone could do this though.
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>>135257665
they're just games, without any weeb pandering/pedo promotion.

if you or others like you are supposed to be the desirable crowd, well that's just sad
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>>135258226
Seeing a superplay fuck up the early game over and over puts things in perspective. They get to where they are though sheer determination.
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>>135258402
>they're just games, without any weeb pandering/pedo promotion.
They're just games anyway you fucking idiot and wtf are even trying to say? without touhous shit games couldn't have appealing characters, fan fictions and the like?

>>135258402
well that's just sad
No i'l think you will find it's the fully grown man with the little girl avatar dreaming up a waifu relationship whilst he plays a second rate gimmick shooter who is sad but good effort deflecting from yourself. A good crowd would just be people who just like to play and improve who may be any kind of person and not the a-typical bottom of the barrel stereotypical loser who has to define his shitty existence via conforming to weebism.
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>>135257665
>one man changed the whole genre in his own image
Is it because of beer?
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>>135258829
Futari is also a game which basically was build for even superplayers to fuck up. Most people could never reach a WR score in this game, no matter how much they practice, since most people are dumb and clumsy as shit.
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>>135259427
>Is it because of beer?
Zun is literally an alcoholic pedo loner, the poster child of his own creation and to no surprise the majority of touhou followers fall into exactly the same categories. I actually think he did the whole thing just to find other like minded oxygen thieves to help him feel less alone in his drunken stupor as he dick dribbles on his fuck pillow.
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>>135259589
You need to chill out anon. Maybe make your own shmup if you're so great.
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>>135259471
It's difficult to say what most people's potential is. The number of people who play shmups is not most people, and the number of people who have the inclination to try for a record is even smaller. There could be millions of potential superplayers out there who don't even know it.
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>>135259419
mad
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>>135259589
Is it because of hats?
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>>135259675
>Maybe make your own shmup if you're so great.
What does that even have to do with anything? lmao

>>135259836
>mad
Nope bringing the truth to you shitlords brings me great satisfaction also great rebuttal but then i guess it's hard to counter facts.


>>135259892
>Is it because of hats?
Only if his wretched mother used one to cover his shame face as she performed a fierce "you will study harder" blowjob.
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>>135260082
yeah, crying and whining about nonsense like a grown baby sure shows them!
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>>135260235
>Facts,views and opinions = crying and whining
Liberal detected.
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I understand that replies are necessary to keep the thread alive during its more inactive hours, but does it have to be such fierce shitposting? I mean you could all be discussing games and scores and whatever else instead of just yelling back and forth at each other like that.
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>>135259727
>It's difficult to say what most people's potential is.
No, it isn't since the avergae IQ out there is something about 90. I doubt very that you could reach a WR with this, since you most likely lack the learning abilities required for it.
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>>135260368
We are having an intellectual discussion in regards to the shmup societal effects of touhou waifuism on the psyche of players and how it manifests in the individuals persona as heavily feminized estrogen pumping behavioral attributes. So i think you'll find it is you who is shitposting fine sir..
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>>135260908
no matter how you word it, anyone that understands the content will still consider it shitposting
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>>135260908
Oh well, I tried. Time for bed. Bump.
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Hybrid shmups are the best!
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>>135236218
Reddit: The Boss Name
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Reco-chan is slow
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So like, which game has the best soundtrack of them all?
I'd like to present Danmaku Unlimited 2 here. Storm Strikers also had a very, very good soundtrack, but it got repetitive quite fast what's.
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>>135266178
Eschatos, no question
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>>135266178
DOJ
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>>135266178
Answer will always be Hellsinker.
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>>135266325
I submit my evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YxrB_1vhg8
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>>135266178
Ikaruga, not even a question
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>>135268954
Cannon was the only way I managed to beat that game.
Just used it to destroy the battleships and snipe the blimp once it appeared, anything else just took too damn long.
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So what's wrong with liking cute anime girls? I mean I pay my bills, I have a STEM degree, speak 3 languages but I hate women. I'm not adult or mature or smart enough just because of that?
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>>135266178
eXceed 2nd - Vampire REX
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>>135266178
either eschatos or garegga
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>>135270102
Even better than eXceed 3rd?
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>>135269687
Liking anime girls is inherently shameful. I don't have a problem with anyone doing it, and I do so myself, as long as they do it in private and don't shove it in everyone else's face constantly. Doing so shows a lack of awareness or refusal to adhere to basic social standards.
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>>135270235
Yeah, at least for me.
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>>135270325

>social standards

Nigga do you even know where you are?
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>>135269687
I bet you're a highly feminized libtard aswell aren't you?
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>>135271397
/shmupg/
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>>135242853
Nice! Let's succeed together.

It's fun to play for middle-high scoring without the crazy optimisation required for a WR, but it's also fun to play just for survival if you're finding it challenging (I know I did, took me 45 hours of playtime just to clear this game on both characters...). I look at the scoreboards at royalflare to give myself an idea of what might be a good score, and then try to work out strats that make it possible.
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After a few hours spent grinding yesterday my consistency has started to improve.
It's a good feeling.
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>>135269687
Well the fact you hate women but like cute anime girls shows you have development issues which lead you to favor a fantasy you have 100% control over instead of actual grown adult women whom you hate because of the lack of control it brings you.
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>>135271585

I'm more like a right wing /pol/lak.

>>135271616

It's funny because even if you consider shmupg alone we're talking about a genre that only autists enjoy.

>>135272945

No I hate women because they live their lives on automatic easymodo due to pussypass.
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>>135274628
No, I'm talking extremely basic etiquette. The same kind that allows you to know not to shit in the middle of the street.
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I wish I was a cute little girl ;;
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>>135275007
Me too, you might have more trouble with the captchas.
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T b h my plans for life are pretty much keep playing shooting games and then commit suicide at some point once I no longer can play shooting games.
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>>135275229
gus pls strm
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Autism is practically a requirement to be able to play shmups. Have you ever seen a good player who was not an autistic fuck?
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>>135275229
you can always play shooting games
>>135275292
tfw bad and an autistic fuck
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>>135275292
Pretty sure Clover-TAC is married so either he found someone just as autistic or he's an ok guy.
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I tried DDP SaiDaiOjou on Shmupmame and this is pretty damn fun. Managed to perfect stage 1-2, but choked on the 3rd stage and I'm still not entirely sure how to hyper and not bomb. If it's obvious, then I'm a retard.
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>>135275613
There is no sdoj for mame, senpai.
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>>135275613
It's probably 4th button just like DFK.
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>>135276283
I miswrote, it's just DaiOjou, SDOJ never ever.

>>135276290
Alright, I'll give it a shot.
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>>135276421
Nope, there is no 4th button to hyper, you just activate hyper mode if you have hypers on stock by pressing B button, so you activate it with the same button you use to bomb.
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>>135276421
if it's daioujou the bomb button will always activate the hyper if it's available. It's impossible to bomb while having a hyper ready.
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>>135275292
The guys at matmouse don't seem autistic when they do their streams sharing a beer and talking about things I'll never understand because I don't speak japanese.
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>>135276602
>>135276701
After trying again, I realized you two are right.
Well, there's nothing else left but to practice this. Thank you anons.
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>>135276885
You're welcome, good luck with that clear!
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>>135277043
Gonna practice all day today.
Stage 3 really is my bane. I mostly clear stage 2 with no resources wasted, but the streaming sections on stage 3 are really weird, but possible.
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what game has the best shot sound
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>>135280340
Depends on what defines "best."
Touhou and Len'en's sound is good because it's really low and somewhat soothing. In terms of awesomeness, I'd say Crimzon Clover's, specially when using the hyper thing.
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>>135280340
mushi W power
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>>135272896
One time I trained a boss so much my consistency worsened.
It's a weird, shameful and bad feeling.
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>>135281674
Don't worry, anon, that's just fatigue.
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>>135282318
I sure hope so. Not like it matters cause I already beat the game.

Still never train while frustrated /shmupg/, it'll only fuck you up.
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HALP

Why does shmupmame give me this shit:

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Allocation error - Exiting
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Cannot allocate large icon image list
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It worked just fine in this Windows session and I just browsed 4chan in the meantime. The only time I fucked with icons is when I had to post a pic and I changed the view in the file choice thingy to see the pics in folder.

I have since changed it back and changed icons to not be large icons all over the fucking place, but it won't start.

What the fuck?

I only found this, but it's not very helpful to me (you can search for the error message in the code):

https://github.com/swarzesherz/mame-test/blob/master/src/osd/winui/winui.c
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>>135266178
Garegga, DFKBL's arrange, or SDOJ.
I really like Namiki's work.
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>>135285391
I actually liked the ios port DFK soundtrack
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>>135213546
I'm doing only for the Clover and the Star Fox Team.
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>>135276737
This is precisely what i mean when i attack the touhou tards, all the actual best players in the world are just normal guys doing something they enjoy and none of them are distinguishable by shallow attention seeking behaviours like calling themselves weebs or nerds and having waifus and shit.
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>>135275292
Nah it's just the west has to label everything remotely related to actual effort and dedication as "omg autism!" to make themselves feel better about being lazy adhd fucks who have zero concept of hard work for attaining goals.
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>>135284521
>I only found this, but it's not very helpful to me (you can search for the error message in the code):
mfw
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H-haha, this is not even a score. It's bloody nothing. I would have to spend 10 hours straight trying to understand lens manipulation and timings. I'm not even sure which.
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>>135292519
>0:15
Do the bullets spawn in a circle away from Minoriko or are you actually slipping through the gaps?
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>>135291664

'current window' it's referring to is nowhere to be found

checked shmupmame files for config info on icons, there is none

you will earn the right to feel superior when you show us how it can be done
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>>135293041
Copy the roms folder and reinstall it?
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>>135292848
They spawn away from her. Webm is of my first successful ascent. I did it again after a few tries and tried to shoot differently but only got a slightly lower score albeit one of the photos scored 70k.

The first two pictures can definitely be done better as I've scored 19k with the first once and something like 40k with the second also once. Ah well, I should go do other scenes. 80mil total probably never with this approach but 70, who knows desu.
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>>135293219

nah
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>>135295884
I caught a bird!
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>>135292519
The lens will be closest to you if you are unfocusing before taking the picture. You can then aim towards yourself as well, for pictures 2-5.

Lens is furthest away from you when focusing, and charging is in between unfocus/focus.

In fact, focusing as Hatate is often dangerous and can lead to a loss of the two shot bonus. However, it is worth knowing that as long as you are moving towards a boss while focusing and take the picture right as you stop, you should get a two shot bonus.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw5DWji_X0c Bumping with never ever.
Also, my progress on DDP has been good, but not as good as I'd want it to be. I still lose a life or two on stage 3 or it's boss. It's a huge step in difficulty, but I'll get there.
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>>135299073
What type are you playing?
C-S is the easiest to clear with, apparently.
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>>135299435
I usually use Red with Laser only. I seem to play really well with it and the bomb number is good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oPLlOFANtk
Are there some good superplay-with-commentary youtube channels for English speaking auditory?
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>>135300514
Only one I know of is STGWeekly, though the runs range from superplays to prettygoodplays
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>>135300391
If you're going for survival that's probably the worst choice of the six, but whatever works for you
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>>135300997
I know it is. I usually play forward-focus types better than spread-shots so I had to. I might try the other ones I guess.
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>>135300997
>If you're going for survival that's probably the worst choice of the six
Personally, A-S or B-S would be the worst choices, with C-L being pretty bad as well. A-L and B-L aren't the easiest for survival, but I play B-L and before we started doing "[game] Week" my progress was going quite well.
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>>135299073
>>135300997
Stage 4 and after is where C-S really starts to shine, it's much easier to take the enemy spam in the later stages with the powerful spread.
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>>135280340
Donpachi's green laser
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>>135301750
I got there and you may be right...
Not sure what to do honestly. I'll try the spread one.
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>>135297789
Thank you, I was able to get better results. This is now just barely a score... which is enough for me, for now. I will enjoy giving it a good old grind once I have fewer gaping holes in my score improvement plan.
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>>135301835
It's such a soothing sound.
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>>135301835
This.

Well, the spread works, but it doesn't deal the damage I'm used to and I end up performing worse. I'll probably stick to the focus one.
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Alright, I've made my very first webm. It's okay for the first time, although the quality could've been better.
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>>135306925
I'm tired of bullet graphics that look like they were drawn in paint
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>>135306925
So Rooty's is gimmick that she's the mech from Psyvariar?
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Just failed another pb-pace run. Bump.
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>>135309623
what game
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>>135310363
Fairy Wars
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>>135309623
iktf
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGo_oTAEvTk Bump with more never ever.
Getting to stage 4 consistently on DDP, but that's about it.
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Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may expand upon your answers):
A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?

Part 2 (Answer freely):
A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
G) How much have you improved during the past year?

Part 3 (Answer freely):
A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related communities other than /jp/? If so, which?
C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site? Do you think it should be improved or purged from the OP's?
E) Do you have an idol? Why?
F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
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>>135313059
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related communities other than /jp/? If so, which?
Man at least modify it a bit
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>>135307963
If you mean something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0peEgSD8Plc, the only similarity I see is the spinning animation. In HH, you need to tap left and right quickly to make Rooty invulnerable.
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>>135313059
TL;DR
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>>135313601
I knew I should've read through it again
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>>135313952
Sounds like XIIZeal to me.
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Gee, thanks for not letting me practice the TLB directly, M2. Bombspamming the first form for 3 minutes is such a productive use of my time. Wouldn't want to miss out on that.
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>>135313952
>the only similarity I see is the spinning animation
This is mostly what I was referring to, I have no experience with Hitogatta outside of that tutorial stage because I'm shit at games with gimmicks.
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>>135313059
I'll answer it, 'cus why not.

>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
5/10
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
4-5/10
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
Eh, maybe 6/10? I get the feeling that it might be slightly up in there.
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
4/10
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
5/10

>Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
7-8 months
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
Photo games for being photo games, PoFV for the sick dodges. I also like Dodonpachi a lot for its aesthetics and the chaining looks like it'd be fun to learn, but I have yet to start with that.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
I used to like survival play but it's gotten boring in most games. But if playing for survival is hard, then it's not boring.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
I have no foreseeable great achievements.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
2-3 hours, but I can go for 6+ if time permits.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Play Double Spoiler for score since it's fun.
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
Gone from zero to whatever I am now.

>A)
No, not really, I don't really know anybody either.
>B)
Haha, I don't go to /jp/. But this thread is comfy.
>C)
Oh yes, but playing is even more fun. Military style CAVE shooters are eyecandy to me so I like to watch videos of those since I don't play them right now. Touhou I don't really watch because I play it, except for research purposes.
>D)
Streaming is actually great, sometimes I will open a random stream of a better player, watch him die to something and become filled with determination myself. And yeah, also when it serves research purposes.
>E)
Prometheus awes me. He is deserving of his namesake.
>F)
Isn't that the case?
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>>135313059
Here comes my autism.

Part 1:
A) 7
B) 8
C) 7
D) 7
E) 9

Part 2:
A) 4-5 years.
B) Yeah. eXceed 2nd - Vampire REX. OST, the ability to damage enemies by ramming into them and being able to play aggresively.
C) For now, it's survival because I don't feel like scoring at the moment.
D) Not anything notable at the moment.
E) One hour per day.
F) Playing shmups on the highest difficulty constantly.
G) Mushi helped me develop looking at everything other than hitbox, which made dodging quicker and responsive.

Part 3:
A) Not really.
B) >implying I hang out with /jp/sies
C) Yeah.
D) I don't mind it, although I'd prefer if it wouldn't be centered around Touhou so much.
E) What idols?
F) Go ahead and discuss about them. At least we have something to talk about.
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>people will reply this social shit

I'll come back next thread, I guess...
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>>135317659
Nobody's going to miss you, dumb nep poster.
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I started shmupping too late and now I'm too tired to shmup anymore today.
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>>135317659
Eh, why not. I like being here, so I didn't mind writing a blog-tier post.
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>>135313059
>Part 1
>A)
3. I have some clears and I try to push myself, but I know I'm terrible.
>B)
4
>C)
3
>D)
4
>E)
5, this is the only resource I really have


>Part 2
>A)
A little over 2 years now
>B)
Yes, Cho Ren Sha 68k. Enemies are very mobile, bullets are fast, nothing particularly hurts my eyes, and music is fantastic.
>C)
Survival, with some beginner/intermediate scoring thrown in so that I'll improve faster.
>D)
100mil in Mushi Maniac, because it's what I've spent the most effort getting so far.
>E)
I don't play every day, but the days I do I play for 3-4 hours.
>F)
More 2hu hard 1ccs, CRS 2-all (hah), Raiden IV 1-all.
>G)
Well about this time last year I was still struggling to 1cc 2hu games on normal, so I'd say quite a bit.


>Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A)
Only what gets posted here, or what people say in Twitch chats.
>B)
>communities other than /jp/
>C)
Yeah. Quite a bit, actually. I usually turn on a stream or youtube video when I'm going to sleep.
>D)
I love it, but then I'm a huge autist and can literally only be entertained by vidya and music
>E)
No, though there are some players that I respect a lot.
>F)
Yes, I think we can expand on the reasons why Ikaruga is actually a good/bad game and why 2hu is awesome/the cancer killing stg.
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>>135317659
>wah, people are bumping the thread by answering the questionnaire and not with how un/pedophilic some games are
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>>135313059
Let's go.

Part 1
A) 4-7 It just jumps randomly.
B) 7
C) 5
D) 5
E) 3

Part 2
A) Maybe 6-7 years since I was aware of it.
B) It's either ChoRenSha or MECHA Ritz.
C) I like to do scoring despite not dealing with survival first.
D) 1cc Battle Bakraid normal course within a week.
E) Apparently not enough.
F) Espgaluda 1cc with a pretty and impressive(for me) number.
G) The progress is not that great but it's clearly visible.

Part 3
A) Sometimes.
B) Is there anything other than /shmupg/ and shmupfarm?
C) Yis.
D) I should figure out OBS and write down my name on one of these lists sometime.
E) Never really seen appeal of those
F) I also wish that these discussions would not degrade into autism calling and other blatant shitposting like it usually does
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>>135313059
Eh, why not.

>Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may expand upon your answers):
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
6.5/10.
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
5/10.
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
7/10.
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
8/10.
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
I play shmups at least 4 times a day I guess?

>Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
7 years.
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
Currently I'm stuck between Len'en 4 and Darius Chronicles. Both are huge and have loads of content, not to mention they take a different spin on the shmup genre.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Perfected EoSD Lunatic (Reimu B), MoF Lunatic (Reimu A and C), DDC (Reimu A and Sakuya A), Len'en RMI on Unreal (All Teams). Perfecting is pretty great in my opinion, so I consider them really good.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
See Part 1 E).
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Beating DDP, the recent Darius, Len'en 4 and pretty much any other shmup I haven't beaten on Steam.
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
2014-15 were 2 years of amazing improvement, as I've started to practice constantly and get tips from people that play better. Overall, I think I improved a lot.

Cont.
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>>135321447
>Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Not really, but it's always fun to see awesome replays.
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related communities other than /jp/? If so, which?
/shmup/ and a few chats.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Yes.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site? Do you think it should be improved or purged from the OP's?
Livestreaming shmups is always fun, specially if it's either someone trying to improve or someone attempting an absurd run as long as it's just the game and a mic. I don't really have much of an opinion on the rest.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
Pretty much any superplayer. I feel most games like these take a lot of you and seeing people overcome it is glorious, so people that practice to a point of scoring is amazing in my opinion.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Yes. More discussion, webms and achievement posts, less drama, shitposting and saying "X shmup is bad" for absolutely no reason.

Well, that wasn't too bad.
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A) 5/10
B) 6/10
C) 6/10
D) 7/10
E) Anywhere from 2/10 to 8/10.

A) Around 2 and a half years.
B) DDP DaiOuJou.
C) Both are fun in their own way.
D) I did a NMNB of TH11's Extra a while back but aside from that all I have is 1CCs/1-ALLs.
E) One or two hours, but I rarely focus on one game at a time.
F) 2-ALL DOJBL hopefully sometime soon, then I want to try looping Ketsui.
G) Not much, it feels like I've plateaued.

A) In this thread, yes.
B) No.
C) Yes.
D) Bullshit-free livestreams are pretty fun.
E) Not really,
F) Not having to worry about falling off of page 10 would be very nice.
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Trying to score in 1-2 makes me feel inadequate. I think someone with a high IQ would actually figure it out but looks like I'll just grind.
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>>135324543
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUmNdBUoGTY Bumping with a level made in little over 1 day (which is also on the NEVER EVER category).

>>135324543
>>135325170
This shit is awesome.
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It's a shame Inbachi is counterintuitive to webm's, that tool-assisted no-miss is a pretty great watch.
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>>135328480
fug
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>>135313059
Part 1
A) 4/10 now, 5/10 at my peak. Better than someone with no experience, I can probably net a Normal 1CC after a few credits in any of the Touhou games I used to play.
B) 4/10. Not really sure.
C) 5/10. I can usually read lower-end random dodging but I'm not advanced.
D) 6/10. I can maneuver alright but I'm not the type who can slide into tricky safespots consistently.
E) 6/10. I'm more patient with shmups than some other games, but it's hindered by my lack of dedication.

Part 2
A) Started playing in April 2010, but stopped for the most part sometime in 2013 and haven't really gone back. Now I mostly only play Deathsmiles and Gothic wa Mahou Otome.
B) Deathsmiles. It's one of the extremely few times a game's scoring system has clicked with me enough to enjoy it and I love Casper.
C) Survival until I can 1CC consistently, then possibly scoring. Otherwise I'll just go to higher difficulties (in Touhou).
D) For survival, I have Lunatic 1CC of Mystic Square, Lunatic 1CC of MoF, and Lunatic 1CC of EoSD (lesser because it wasn't default lives). For scoring, I have a 327m EoSD Extra with MarisaA, and pic related.
E)Not much, honestly. I go on and off. When I'm on, I might play a couple hours every day or two. When I'm off, I go months between sessions. Makes improving impossible.
F) Ideally I'd like to break 300m in Deathsmiles, but that's been my goal since 2012 so it's kinda... ehhh. I'd also like to get some 1CCs in Mushihimesama and whatever the next Cave port is.
G) Not at all. Pic related is from 2014 and I haven't matched it since.

Part 3
A) I don't know if you mean superplayers and WRs, or just people like here talking about the games, but I do like helping people and giving advice if I can.
B) Nope. Not even /jp/.
C) Sometimes, if it's a game that I enjoy.
D) Streaming is fine. Dunno what STGrillz is.
E) Not really.
F) Honestly the only thing I want is for them to stop being at each other's throats and just get along.
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>>135324543
>this part during the second loop
Just kill me now
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>>135328480
This is the worst feeling.
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>>135330619
>D) Streaming is fine. Dunno what STGrillz is.
http://stgrillz.appspot.com/
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/r/ing Dangun webms.
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anyone know anything about ddp2's scoring system
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>>135340913
Just what was posted at the farm, since it's not nearly as popular as the others. http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=21750
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so very beginner here, may as well do my vlog about parodius progress i guess
>can 1CC stage 1 (auto btw)
>get to stage 2 and choke because of the spawners everywhere
also the slowdown, holy fucking shit man.

also kinda tempted to get deathsmiles desu. should I?
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>>135343793
>vlog

epic
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>>135343793
You say vlog but I see no webm.

>tempted to get deathsmiles
Do it, it's good.
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>>135344175
listen I'm a simple man who's simply shitposting on 4chan in between having to actually do things in class I can't do 10 things at once
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>>135313059
>Part 1
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
6/10
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
4/10
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
6/10
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
8/10
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
7/10
>Part 2
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
3-4 years. Ever since I played Gradius 3 on the SNES emulator in high school which sparked my interest in shmups.
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
Battle Garegga or 19XX The War Against Destiny.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival. Though if scoring is needed, then I'll try.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Ketsui Ura 2-ALL though don't ask me to 1CC that loop because I'm still trying to git gud at that. And I did 1CC Mushihimasama Futari Original mode at max rank.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
4-6 hours
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Git gud at Ketsui's ura loop. Managed to save state before starting the loop so I can practice that loop any time I want.
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
I've gotten better at manipulating the rank system to my favor.
>Part 3
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
No.
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related communities other than /jp/? If so, which?
I don't visit /jp/ too often so I don't know how the STG threads are like over there.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
One of my favorite STG players is Jaimers91 who inspired me to shoot for ura loop in Ketsui.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site? Do you think it should be improved or purged from the OP's?
Maybe. I don't give much of a shit about that.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
Not really.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Sometimes. Depends I guess.
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>>135345045
Did you get an URA 2-ALL? Are you BOS or MrMonkeyMans?
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do you guys ever practice with your own music
i find that it kinda helps me concentrate better
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Haven't played shmups in a while but I wanna get back into it seriously, I had a version of mame that made me have to use a .bat with mamep64.exe deathsml.zip to get Deathsmiles to work, does the latest mame fix that? I'll probably end up buying Deathsmiles regardless.
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>>135348895
just pirate it if you dont wanna buy it desu
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>>135348597
I don't even notice the music desu.
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>>135348895
I'd buy the pc version desu, but the latest version of MAME does run Deathsmiles without needing to do any shenanigans.
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>>135348597
It did help quite a bit when playing though Ibara. Nearly 1cc the game if it wasn't for this bitch.
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>>135348597
I do, if solely to not burn out on the game's music.
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>>135313059
Well why the fuck not

Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may expand upon your answers):
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
2/10. I have 1cc about 7 shmups.
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
5/10. I suck at memorizing enemy spawning patterns and i'm too lazy to learn scoring spots. Most of my 1ccs were done while not giving much of a shit about making points, just by focusing on dodging the onslaught.
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
5/10. Stray fast bullets are the main cause of my deaths.
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
3/10 i don't have an arcade stick and have to do with either keyboard or a gamepad d-pad.
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
4/10 if i like the game.
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>>135349583
Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
About 12 actual months total. What usually happens is that sometimes i just find a shmup that interests me, i play it for a bunch of hours until i either 1cc it or get sick of it, and then a long time happens when i just keep playing other games that aren't shmups.
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
Xexex. Because the tentacle option mechanics.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Getting far in Xexex felt more satisfying than the 1ccs, but the game's just delivish with the memorization in the latter stages, so i always end up getting sick of losing to shit i couldn't dodge on reaction.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
40 minutes if i'm into a game.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Getting real shit done and 1ccing Deathsmiles on level 2.
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
A lot compared to 12 months ago.
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>zip in OP doesn't have mushi mushi pork

what the fuck guys!!!!!!?????
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>>135350469
Does that even work in shmupmame?
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>>135350523
It does work but it does have some slowdowns at certain moments in the game.
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>>135350523
nah but it works in later versions
not exactly 100% but good enough

>>135350868
i thought slowdown was normal in cave games
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>>135350523
>>135350868
>>135350947
Is the version in the OP older? I just downloaded a different of shumpmame 4.2 and it has a different gui
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>>135350947
>i thought slowdown was normal in cave games
It is, I mean the general frame rate when you play the game slows down a lot.
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>>135350469
>>135350523
>>135350947
>>135351114
Dumb faggots, there is no post PGM games for shmupmame.
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>>135350052
Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
If they're playing the same games i'm playing yes, sometimes. Communication is crucial to keep motivation going. It's no fun not being able to talk.
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related communities other than /jp/? If so, which?
I only visited /jp/ for a total of one week before i stopped going there because their shmup thread took ages to get replies and like half the topics were pure waifufagging instead of just casual fawning over characters while discussing the games.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Sometimes. It really depends on the mood and the game in question and if the player can deliver an entertaining show.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site? Do you think it should be improved or purged from the OP's?
Livestreamings are the most fun when the player is skilled enough to have a shot at completing the game but not skilled enough like to easily do it.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
A couple, but i'm not mentioning them just in case they browse this thread.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
It wouldn't fun if the only people discussing shmups talked in moon or another language i can't even slightly understand.
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>>135351348
i meant later versions of mame not shmupmame
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>>135351348
Sorry if I offended you by double-checking, anon-sama. I'll be sure to not ask questions that could potentially help me play more games in the future.
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>>135351540
Dumb faggot me aswell, there should be a mega link with ROMs only, because downloading the whole thing with shmupmame is not really usefull if you just want to play something on any mame version.
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>>135328480 here again, just finished the stage in practice mode only taking 3 hits total, which would make a 1cc.
Run attempt or more practice, /shmupg/?
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>>135353541
I'd say more practice.
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>>135353541
Runs
If you feel like you've got a stage down there's no reason to grind
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>>135353541
Depends on your consistency. If you think you can do it again with a sizable success rate, go for it. If your three hit run was an outlier and you usually get hit more than that, keep practicing.

Plan out places to bomb if you have to, places that you're especially bad at. Or keep practicing them until you get better at them. Either works.
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>>135284521

pls respond, someone must have had that
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>>135354386
Like you, I can't find much. Just a forum post saying that it's a problem with the gui. Are you running the gui or the exe itself?
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>>135355591

GUI, I guess - the MEGA version from OP

is there a way I can get ot exe itself?
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>>135355863
MEGA version in the OP just comes with the gui?

I'd suggest redownloading, then. I got it from the main site and don't even use the GUI https://shmupmame.wordpress.com/download/
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>>135356157

same thing happens when I redownload, it's some crap with Windows settings somewhere

I'll try a restore point later but it's a last resort
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>>135357879
That sucks, mate. Sorry I'm not more help.
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>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
5
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
7
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
4
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
5
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
8

>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
Scoreplay for one year, casual scumming for years before that.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Scoring is the only way.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Ketsui Omote clear, since it gave me a lot of grief at most parts in the game and continues to do so.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
3 hours, give or take.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
I don't know. 2-ALL Ura is necessary eventually but it's looking damn hard.
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
Enormously, I was unable 1-ALL Ketsui for survival a year before.

>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Yes.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Yes.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site? Do you think it should be improved or purged from the OP's?
It's great. Please add support for listing Youtube streams, /jp/-san!
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Talking is the west's specialty, I would prefer to see more playing alongside that.
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If I stream and talk on mic will people bully me
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>>135360793
The bullying will continue until you get WR.
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>>135360793
Only a little.
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>>135360793
Please stream and post the link here
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>>135313059
A) 6/10 maybe, I've been playing for a lot of years but only started taking it seriously semi-recently, I have no arcade 1ccs yet but I have all PC 2hus 1cc'd on normal, 6-10 1cc'd on hard, and every extra stage cleared if that's worth anything
B) 7/10, I feel like I'm alright at that but other things are holding me back
C) 6/10
D) 4/10, pretty bad right now because I'm transitioning from keyboard to stick
E) 3/10, I'm pretty bad with patience and keeping frustration down

A) Since Mac OS9 shareware games, but not really until like 7 years ago maybe
B) DDP Daioujou, I love its music and atmosphere and something about the game feels super solid and responsive to me even compared to other PGM games
C) Scoring is really satisfying but I mostly focus on survival right now, and tend to prefer less intense and punishing scoring systems
D) EoSD extra stage nmnb, I wasn't really trying for it and it came out of nowhere but felt great
E) 1-2 hours on average, I tend to either play not at all or a lot so it's inconsistent
F) I'd like to 1-all DOJ, maybe learn to chain the first two stages
G) A lot, I only started playing seriously in the past few years so there's been a lot of progress

A) Not really, that's an easy way to get discouraged and feel like a shitter so I like to focus on my own goals and progress
B) I hang out in system11's hardware section sometimes, I want to own cabs someday
C) Absolutely, seeing people ace games is satisfying and it's a good way to learn routes
D) I don't even know what it is and have never looked at it so I can't really comment
E)I don't really follow the scene, so I guess not. The composer for DOJ and Ketsui I guess, if that counts
F) I'd like to see there be more of a community, my local arcade has a big candy cab section and there's a huge community around the fighters but I'm generally the only person playing shmups and the only name on each day's scoreboard
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I'll do it, I swear to Yagawa
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>>135313059
>Part 1:
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
1/10 I'm the worst
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
5/10 probably average for a human, doesn't really matter for stgs anyways
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
1/10 anything with rng is just luck for me
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
6/10 above average I guess
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
8/10 the only thing I'm good at in these games
>Part 2:
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
a bit less than one and a half years or 700hours
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
Imperishable Night because it has good practice options, a deep scoring system and depends mostly on good execution
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
scoring
>D) What are your greatest achievements?
I guess LNB in one of the Touhou games
>why?
because I'm too bad to do anything better
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
2-3hours on workdays, possibly more on weekend days
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
just getting better, maybe 5b in IN
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
a lot, a year ago I could just barely 1cc
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>>135368312
>Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Yes it's really interesting for me to watch passionate people and support them
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related communities other than /jp/? If so, which?
most of them really, the farm, irc and some touhou communities
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
mostly for learning purposes, yeah
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site? Do you think it should be improved or purged from the OP's?
Basically answered earlier, when I'm too tired to play myself I enjoy watching and supporting people (if they are passionate and trying hard, watching them dick around casually is lame)
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
I love aidorus
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
First of all they should play more with high aims and then we'll actually have somethign to discuss
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Just gonna post here my 45M G-Darius run I made last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgxQSM3VXUw

yeah, english isn't my native language, and I sound like shit. whatever.
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>>135371202
>yeah, english isn't my native language, and I sound like shit.
Stop being so insecure, you sound fine.
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>>135284521

solved by getting rid of the GUI and using and just using the command line downloaded from the dev site

honestly, it's a major improvement, because it doesn't take forever to load the whole library on startup
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>>135313059

A) 6/10
B) 6/10
C) 7/10
D) 6/10
E) 4/10

A) 16 years maybe?
B) Currently CCWI, because Break Mode!
C) Scoring
D) Getting 1B on Crimzon Clover doujin ver Unlimited Mode. Because 2 years before I thought it was impossible.
E) About 2 hours/day
F) To 1cc CCWI Arcade modes, and clear more MAME games
G) Not much due to a lot of distractions

A) Yes
B) Yes. Farm
C) No
D) Full runs always good to watch, but save state spams or stage/spell practices aren't cool. Don't purge STGrillz.
E) Once I admired ISO because he usually score a step ahead before the others with new tricks.
F) Not really
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Somebody asked for this, but...
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>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
3/10
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
5/10 (pretty much average)
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
4/10
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
5/10
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
8.5/10

Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
started a week ago
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
R-Type (my first stg) and currently Deathsmiles
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
a mix of both
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
1cc in Deathsmiles (Normal Mode) Why? Because it was my first 1cc ever and I'm really proud of it
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
2-3h
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
- play much more, especially Mushi and Crimzon Clover
- download shmupmame and practice Twin Cobra and Battle Garegga
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
0

Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
yes, a lot lately
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related communities other than /jp/? If so, which?
yes I do
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
yep, watching a lot youtube
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site? Do you think it should be improved or purged from the OP's?
love it, more active streamers please!
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
I don't know any good players
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
eeehh, no idea
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>>135365192
Do it, I dare you!
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Dangun is so cool
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no miss phase 2 never ;_;
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>>135365192
I REALLY hope this is the new steam port
onegai cave-sama
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>>135388637
What if they remove the counterstop?
Life as we know it will change forever.
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>>135388915
I think Blackbird said they know about the problem with counterstop but who knows what will happen now that he's gone.
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>>135389407
The changes they made to the first two titles are pretty minimal to nonexistent, apparently even when they ask for user input beforehand, so I'm not expecting much. They seem to just be copying everything over from the 360 as is.
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>>135392127
PC never ever.

Progress on DDP is going slow, but stage 3 is becoming easier each time I play it again. Practice makes perfect.
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>tfw 10+ bombs and 3 deaths combined on 1-5, 2-1 and 2-2 while nervously choking
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>>135394215
Dont worry mate my ketsui runs today consisted of a pb first loop which i miss counted bombs used and got the pleb 1all finish expecting the loop. That's a massive score though.
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>>135394689
I've done that - also had a run with 0 deaths / 6 bombs going into EVAC's final, and then dying on that.

294mil Omote is somewhat low desu senpai, what was your first loop PB?
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>>135395326
>294mil Omote is somewhat low desu senpai, what was your first loop PB?
Nah that's high unless you are comparing yourself solely to wr pace. Far to embarrassingly low compared to you to mention.... (170) but im coming back from a break so just starting to grind again. Have you played traps 1.7 at all? it's a lot of fun.
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There's a thread on /v/ right now. Get in my niggas.
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>>135402561
It's shit famu
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>>135402561
>100+ posts
>all lewdposts
>not a single picture with bullets
pls
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>>135402561
I thought the anti-anime posters were trolls specific to certain boards; I suppose I should have known they came in through /v/.
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To whomever linked the general in that terrible thread: fuck you.
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>>135402561
You have to realize both /v/ and /jp/ are horrible places to attempt to discuss anything shmup related. If you want to do that, you do it here where the shitposting is low and the discussion/advice/webms are good.
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>>135404753
I agree with this sentiment.
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Already have 150 hours in Battle Garegga and still couldn't clear it.
No matter if I play with medals or not, the game is just too difficult.
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>>135405221
Please don't give up, anon, you can do it.
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>>135405314
I won't but it's frustrating as fuck, especially when you play with medal chaining and they constantly fall into the bullets and you have to restart if you lose just a single medal.
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>>135402501
>That FPS
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>>135402501
What the actual Fuck
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>>135405482
You'll get there buddy, I believe in you.
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>>135405221
Never say never. 500 hours is the mark to start worrying.
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>>135405482
Good Luck man, you'll make it!

Progress on DPP, I nearly managed to perfect stage 3, but the stream right after the midboss is a pain in the ass and I had to bomb. A bit more and I'll start practicing stage 4.
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>>135410559
>you'll make it!
Not sure about this. I already reached the final boss a few times, but the game is just so full of chaos and randomness, no matter how much I practice it, I don't get goo enough.
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>>135410559
>I nearly managed to perfect stage 3, but the stream right after the midboss is a pain in the ass and I had to bomb
That last bit of stage 3 gives me trouble, too. Just wait, stage 4 is where things get crazy.
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>>135412773
Don't stop believing, practice daily, take breaks and you'll do it. I know you will man...

>>135415703
;_;
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>>135404753
Not him but if we want to promote the genre we could use that board's high traffic to advertise both the games and this thread. It's no fun having to bump this back from the dead every day.
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>>135417447
I aleady practiced daily for weeks now, but I think I reached a point where I don't get any better anymore.
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>>135417720
There's no such thing, trust me. The same thing happens with artists and it's a lie, just keep it up.
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>>135417529
>but if we want to promote the genre
we don't, quality ove quantity now fuck off.
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>>135417720
You're giving up way too soon. It's not unusual for it to take months or in some cases even years to reach certain goals.

Pic related, I'm going for an Omote 2-ALL and have been playing for the last couple months but still haven't gotten it and won't give up until I do.

>>135417529
In certain cases promoting this thread can be a good idea, this is not one of those cases. The people in that /v/ thread are not the kind of people you would want in this thread.
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>>135418056
But most artists can practice as much as they want and still never achieve the level of really exceptional artists.
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>>135418663
>You're giving up way too soon.
I'm not giving up, I just doubt that I get any better still, since practice doesn't help much anymore, since everything is just random as fuck in the game.
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>>135418448
>shitposting and webm reposts
>quality

>>135418663
Then let's use other shmup threads. Or make a sort of general non-anime shmup thread on /v/ from time to time to get people interested in them.
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>>135402501
How did this game even happen
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>>135419692
If you don't like it then get the fuck out of here and take your dumb fuck "hurrr lets get moar pplz interested cus i lyk numbers" shit with you and fyi there is quality discussions and posts here, the last thing we need is a bombarding of the usual dumb beginner questions and "who's ur touhou waifu guise?". People like you turn everything to shit.
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>>135420409
What a hothead.
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>>135420719
He's right though.
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>>135419291
What I'm trying to say is that you'll improve even when it doesn't seem like you're improving, as long as you practice with a goal in mind.

>>135419692
Occasional threads on /v/ seem fine to me. The /vr/ shmup-players already know there's a thread here and /jp/ stopped having STG/Touhou gameplay threads so there's no point in advertising anything in those places.
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>>135417529
As much as I agree that we should promote the genre, I'd rather promote the genre to people that are actually interested in playing the games at some level. Most of that thread was ">anime games" or ">pedos" or people posting porn.
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>>135418895
Or, they can practice for loads of time and get better. Practice makes perfect. Just keep it up...
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Heads up for Gothic wa Mahou Otome players, they released an update for the game that doesn't seem to be mandatory (or at least, it wasn't before I updated). So you can update on QooApp. Don't know what the update changes but it's likely related to the guild system in some way.
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>>135421506
>Practice makes perfect
No, it doesn't. For perfection you don't just need hard work but also some kind of brilliancy, which is something you can not really train.

Many artists work the whole day and never achieve the level other, better artists. Using your logic ever manga artist would be a new D'avinci, just because they mostly work their ass off.
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>this discussion again
Awesome
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>>135421506
Speaking of 'practice makes perfect', I am just incapable of understanding, using, or in any way, except sporadically, interacting with the Two Shot multiplier in Double Spoiler, even after having it explained to me. 80 hours on record, lol. I don't want to give up until I have 100 more at least I guess. I've never doubted myself so much before.
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>>135422070
We went over this already anon. Plus that's a common saying anyway.
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>>135422070
See >>135422741, and even if it isn't true, you can strive in what you want to get better for a longer time and improve, or you can sit here and shitpost, whining at how you couldn't git gud. I'd take the first option.

>>135422525
If you really can't understand it, I suggest looking at replays on youtube, usually you'll get a feel for it. If it's too much right now, just rest for today and try it again tomorrow. Just don't give up.

My DDP progress: Currently arriving on stage 4 a bit more consistently but not enough. It really is a huge step-up.
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>"we'll be patching things at monday!"
>still not a single mention about slowdown fix

Thanks Gaberu-sama for steam refunds.

What's wrong with PC? This year alone I already refunded 3 games because they simply don't work.

>Grim Dawn
Shittiest performance I've seen.
>SFV
I can't even find matches because somehow the game put me in the middle of Africa.
>Deathsmiles
"Features" missing.
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>>135423648
I caved and downloaded a few replays, gonna record a few of my shitty ones as well and analyse them frame by frame if I have to. Can't go down without a fight.

>My DDP progress: Currently arriving on stage 4 a bit more consistently but not enough. It really is a huge step-up.
Good luck, anon. I love the look of that game.
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>>135424415
That's the spirit. Thanks for the confidence.
My goal is to be able to complete this ASAP, so I won't have Len'en 4 dropped on me and no time to practice it.
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>>135424751
My only real suggestion to speed up progress in Dodonpachi is to make sure you're using C-S, but I think that has already been mentioned. Are you using autofire?
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>>135425056
Yeah, I use both now, otherwise it would be too hard...
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>>135425056
>My only real suggestion to speed up progress in Dodonpachi is to make sure you're using C-S
Not him, but I found myself making faster progress with B-L, but then I'm a lot worse at the bosses than I am at the stages.
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>>135425383
how do you set up autofire in shmupmame42? i tried fumbling with the settings but to no avail, google isn't much help either
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>>135426440
For DDP, hold F2 once the rom loads until the service menu pops up, then go to configurations, then turn C to autofire.
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https://twitter.com/DegiGames/status/710222516577374208
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>>135426886
>https://twitter.com/DegiGames/status/710222516577374208
FUCK. I don't even have the game yet ;_;
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>>135426674
oh, so you just have to hold it for a while. fuck me
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>>135427775
yeah it's the same with all the 1st gen cave games.
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>>135423660
>"Features" missing.
Such as?
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>>135429749
Word is that the slowdown is improper or missing.
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>>135430263
For the 360 release. PC release has had that fixed.
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>playing a shmup
>do a certain section flawlessly
>get a game over in the next stage
>i didn't save the replay
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>>135430335
Really? I took a plunge into Ice Palace 999 and I am almost certain there is way less slowdown than there was on the 360 (MBL Arcade).

What I've heard is that the slowdown issues the Steam version has are different from the slowdown issues the 360 version had.
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>>135430335
Bizarrely, the slowdown is only missing in the US 360 localization from what I hear.
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>>135430653
Oh, I have no prior experience with Ice Palace so I'm unable to tell the difference. Looking at the farm it seems they agree with you. My apologies.

>>135430865
If I remember my trivia right it's because they optimized the game a bit (which explains why a port of that version runs better on my toaster than Mushi ever did) and forgot to force the slowdown back in.
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>>135430865
>>135432815
From what I've heard, it was removed from the 360 port during localization for fear that people would criticize the game for not running at full speed at all times.

Although it seems to me that 360's Arcade mode had fine slowdown, it was just the HD mode that lacked it. But I don't know for certain.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8BM-IL8VGk
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>>135402501
Looking at this, I will NEVER go after fighting Zatsuza. What sadist would even try??
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>>135435804
Wait until you hear about the ludicrous requirements to actually meet him.

I think CAVE had to make an official announcement confirming that he exists because no one had managed to reach him.
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>>135436463
I think the same can be said with Hina's evil side (Inbachi) where there was only one video that actually defeated her.
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>>135421913
But haloween already over anon. I think last event was Hacker Doll something. I like these new stages bgm, I wish I could rip the music.
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>>135437436
You're right but I threw that one up just because. And Hacker Doll is still going I think.
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>>135435763
Doesn't look TAS like the other nmnb I've seen
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Is there a guide for how Battle Garegga works? I feel lost playing it.
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>>135441318
Are you trying to figure out the rank system?
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>>135442332
I'm trying to figure out all of it, having just played it for the first time today.
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I know there aren't really developers here but I feel like this is more a question a shmup player would know than a developer, but when shmups do that thing where your fire is split up into little bursts unless you're point blanking, how is that done? Is it just a check that the amount of player bullets onscreen is under a certain threshold before it'll fire off a next wave?
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>>135442741
I haven't played it in over a year so I know that feeling.
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>>135442805
I guess the technical term for it would be shit limit and yeah, that sounds about right
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>Game uses vector graphics
>doesn't play nearly as well as Danmaku Unlimited 2
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I think I might be retarded, how do I save replays in shmupmame?
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Good night, /shmupg/. Dream of high scores and 1ccs.
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Hey webm guy, anything you can do with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwa6N7jnm2c ? I'd imagine almost every attack will have too much happening, and the output will be a blurry mess.
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Ayy this loop is still hard af.
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>>135451806
Aside from the EVAC DOOM-like attack, there's so much movement on-screen that you'd be lucky to pack anything longer than two seconds of decent quality video into a three megabyte webm.
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>>135395326
>type B
>294m
>low
smhtbqhwyf
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>>135418663
>ketb
Nigga, you playing the wrong version. The rom must be just ket, not keta, ketb or ketc
Also
>314h
What's your pb so far? What ship are you using? Good luck with omote! I'm also going for it.
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just got my ls-36 installed in a fightstick i had lying around
it feels ok but i dont think id use it for fighters or anything else that i use arcade sticks for desu
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>>135453981
Either the ls-32 I ordered was busted or I cannot understand how anyone would willingly use a seimitsu
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>>135452237
That's what I feared, but I thought I'd ask anyway. Oh well.
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>less than an hour left in Deathsmiles week
>can't get a run past A-2 without slamming into something
Kill me, senpai
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>page 10
Come on guys.
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Can I count it as a Deathsmiles week clear if it started during Deathsmiles week?
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>page 9 in 15 minutes
Jesus. Some event going on?
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>>135462028
Everyone is busy playing shmups working on their goals instead of posting in the thread! I hope
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>>135462028
Maybe there's finally porn of some obscure game and they want to check it out. Please let it be of one of the girls from Ibara.
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>>135463281
I'm not, I just finished my (admittedly very low-effort) goal for the week. I'll get back on Deathsmiles once Eschatos week is over.
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Bumpety bomb!
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>>135418663
>>135453235
I think "ketb" is the first version and has the bomb invincibility glitch. Romset "keta" lacks invincibility at the start of stages past 1-1. You should use "ket" which is the latest version.

Aside from those two things I'm not sure what the differences between revisions are. I've seen superplays that seemed to be done on a "keta" revision PCB (due to lacking the invincibility effect at the start of stages), so the earlier revisions might not be meaningfully worse, either.
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So, what's coming after Eschatos week?
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Are Deathsmiles leaderboards fucked? I can't find my scores nor anyone else's from the group.
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One last bump. Gotta sleep.
Take it easy, /shmupg/.
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>>135453235
>>135467501
You guys have it all ass backwards... Ket is the oldest and the one with the glitches, the invincibility was removed at the stage beginnings from the newer versions not the older one. Whether it's just ghosts or not im not sure but i swear having played all versions that i think the options behave better aswell. If you look on the boot up screen the newer versions are defined by the full stop placement after the date.
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>>135474691
MAME romset naming generally labels the latest/"default" version without a suffix, and tacks letters on older and regional revisions.

>If you look on the boot up screen the newer versions are defined by the full stop placement after the date.
I'm seeing 0 full stops on ketb, 1 on keta, and 2 on ket - which sounds like they added a full stop for every revision.
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>>135423648
>or you can sit here and shitpost, whining at how you couldn't git gud.
I didn't know it was forbidden here to post about your improvements. But actually you are right, because posting here just stupid anyway, since it
's just full of fucking retards like you here.
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>>135476678
Whining about sucking and complaining how you can surpass anything with practice alone isn't posting about improvements. If it's stupid to post here, don't post at all.
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>>135477604
*Can't

>>135462028
/vg/ has been awfully quick these past few days, I'm not surprised.
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>>135462028
Ban assfaggots.
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>>135477604
I never said I sucked, fucktard. I most likely have a better score than anyone here. I just said I couldn't clear the game, and practice doesn't help much anymore.
If that's a reason for you to chimp out like the little bitch you are, then that's not my fault.
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>>135477792
Completely unrelated but did you use to post on /vr/ by any chance?
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>>135477935
Completely unrelated but do you suck dicks by any chance?
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>>135477792
>I just said I couldn't clear the game, and practice doesn't help much anymore.
So you are saying that? I'm getting conflicted messages here. I'd think before writting.
On another note, more people probably practiced 10x what you did and succeeded, if you can't do such a simple task as practicing then don't play shmups at all.
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>>135478021
Maybe.
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>>135477792
>I most likely have a better score than anyone here.
LMao i highly doubt that.
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>>135478053
>So you are saying that?
I am saying what? You can't even properly express yourself, fucktard. The only person here who is whining is you. I merely posted that I can't clear the game. That has nothing to do with whining.

>more people probably practiced 10x what you did and succeeded, if you can't do such a simple task as practicing then don't play shmups at all
More people than what? Again you can't even express yourself without sounding like a retard, so stop trying to tell me anything about this genre.
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>>135478412
Hardly anyone here plays the game anyway, since it's just full of Cavedrones and Touhou fags here
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>>135478451
You can't even look at your own comment and use that as interpretation and now you're finding faults to support an argument? I'm sorry for saying the truth, you don't need to be so upset.
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>>135478721
Which truth? The truth that you are whining like a fucking bitch just because someone posted he can't 1cc a game?
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this discussion is not very good in my opinion
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>>135478839
The truth that you can't git gud. I'm not whining at all, I'm just enjoying you being mad at nothing.
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>>135478939
>The truth that you can't git gud
Go back to your Dark Souls games, fucking retard.
This genre is about score anyway, not about 1ccs. Just because you didn't clear a game, doesn't mean you are bad at it, fucking retard.
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>>135478931
Shh nothing we can do anon, just let it happen.
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>>135479208
Yeah, and being upset to someone on 4chan will surely improve those odds : ^)

>>135478931
>>135479240
Just let it happen, it's free bumps and it's fun.
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>>135478931
It's amazing how disscussion goes completely to shit every fucking same time because one fucking poster.
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>>135479323
I bet it's the same guy errytime.
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>>135479321
*at. You really are screwing up anon.

>>135479434
I'm pretty sure it's the same one. Some people just can't let it go and improve instead.
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>>135441318
There's a massive guide over on the farm. It's usually on the front page of the strategy board.
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>>135479321
>Yeah, and being upset to someone on 4chan will surely improve those odds : ^)
You are the one who is upset here, because i didn't agree with your statement that everyone can reach everything just with practice.

I played this game just for two weeks now, and already have a better score than people who played it for years, so don't try to tell me I need to "git gud". you fucking retard.
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>>135479658
see >>135478412 and >>135478939.
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>>135479658
If you can't 1cc with or without medals in 150 hours, you need to git gud, because you're awful.
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>>135479796
see >>135478606 and >>135478021
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>>135479910
See >>135479321 and >>135479905.
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>>135479910
alright then put it to the test post you're score
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>>135479905
Post your score if you are so much better. Oh wait, you can't since you most likely don't play anything but fucking touhou anyway.
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I'm so glad the thread isn't slow anymore.
This is much better.
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what's your excuse for not playing saidaioujou expert /shmupg/
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>>135480023
Why don't you post your score. You are the one acting like a pro here telling others to "git gud".
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>>135480068
I told you it would be free bumps.

>>135480082
The game's not on PC yet. When it is, I'll play it.
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>>135480082
I like DoDonPachi but but not that much.
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>>135480082
2 busy playing futanari and the bright futuristic colours hurt my eyes
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>>135480082
I'm not a faggot who plays rehashes made for waifu drooling otakus.
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>>135480068
I still have hope for my theory that someone shitposts and someone takes the bait just to keep the thread active during dead hours. I'd like to believe it's just an act to keep the thread from dying.
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>>135480435
What do you think I was doing ever since the guy got upset literally over nothing? I have to keep this thread alive somehow.
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>>135480494
>the guy got upset literally over nothing
>says the retard who chimps out and shitposts the whole thread full just because someone doesn't agree with his opinion
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>>135480494
>i was just acting to be retarded, I swear guys
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>>135480575
See what I mean?
>>135480435
>says the retard who chimps out and shitposts the whole thread full just because someone doesn't agree with his opinion
Please don't misuse the quoting feature.
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>>135480664
Wrong order anon?

>>135480575
Now that's just sad.
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>>135480664
>Please don't misuse the quoting feature.
>can't even properly quote
Yea, definitely not acting, just pretty damn retarded
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>>135480640
Here's your (You).

>>135480738
>can't even properly quote
Who are you quoting then?
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Fuck this, I'm just going to go play Cho Ren Sha again.
Still havent beaten Show Time!!!
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>>135480995
Good Luck anon.

Well, since he stopped taking the bait, RIP free bumps. I'll come back to post progress later today.
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>>135481112
Thanks anon, I will definitely need that luck.
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>>135266178
Personally I like the alien like soundtrack to Bio-Hazard Battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKQ0_nOK1Ao
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>>135451806
>>135455938
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WHERE'S MY SLOWDOWN CAVE
YOU PROMISED THAT WOULD BE SLOWDOWN
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>>135483102
This is like IKD's last word
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Thanks for all the webms that are being posted in here. I'm saving each and every one of them.
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バンプ
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>>135480995
>>135481289
One neat thing about Show Time ! ! is that it's got this spider boss thing not seen anywhere else in the game. Also for some reason they gave the Stage 5 Boss the same patterns the last phase of the Unnamed One uses, but since he's not darting at 1 million m/h all over the screen they are much more manageable.

Also apparently the spider is the end of Show Time ! ! since the bosses just repeat after that, so I guess I am done with it for now.
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It's almost a shame that the spider doesnt appear in the game. It's patterns are pretty fun and I just love the way it moves around. Also on the difficulty scale it ranks far lower than the rest of Show Time! !. I would say that he was intended to appear in the game as a boss, but was cut and just thrown into Show Time! ! as a easter egg of sorts. Could totally see him as a midboss on Stage 0.

As a bonus here's an interview I found with the developer of CRS. Real interesting stuff:
http://shmuplations.com/chorensha68k/
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One funny thing about the very first boss in Show Time! ! is that he has so few HP that he will practically die way before he gets to do any of the dangerous shit in webm related. And there's no popcorn or any reason to even score in the first place, so I have no idea why it's the way it is

>>135487038
Also dont think I dont see you, you birdbrain.
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Should I get one?

I'm still playing with a controller and it feels a bit "wrong" to me. Can I use this with MAME/shmupmame? Will it work with Cho Ren Sha 68k?
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>>135488825
Most doujin games have fuck awful controller support, you might have to use joy2key
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>>135488825
>>135488889
buttons work with CRS68k but not directional, so Joy2Key is a must
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>>135489115
>>135488889
Thanks!

Is the majority here playing with an arcade stick? Sorry, I'm kinda new to shmups. ;_;
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>>135489242

I play with stick because it feels natural to me.
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>>135489242
Nah, I manage to play Cho Ren Sha just fine with keyboard.
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>>135489242
Yeah, it takes some getting used to but once you do you won't go back.
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>>135489242
>Is the majority here playing with an arcade stick? Sorry, I'm kinda new to shmups. ;_;
I played stick for 4 years before switching to pad which i prefer now although i can use both if i need to.
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http://strawpoll.me/7105044
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>>135489242
I've been using it for two years and it was worth the price.
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>>135480082
Doesn't work in shmupmame
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>>135480082
it's ugly as fuck for a start (yum garish clashing colors and everything looks plastic), has creepy pedoshit char select and is completely uninspired.
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>>135489242
I use gamepad if I can and keyboard if I can't. I'd like to use a stick but I can't afford it right now.
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>>135483102
>>135483190
>>135483279
>>135483370
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What's the best romset to use for DOJ BL? Been using ddpdojblk but just in case.
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Reco's wide shot and lanterns do not get along
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DariusBurst DLC comes out today. Anyone care? I'm interested at the very least
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>>135494502
That's probably it anon.

>>135495043
I'd care if I had the game. I really want it but I'm broke, so RIP.
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>>135495043
I actually do. Of course I'm about to go to sleep so I can be well rested for work later so I probably won't get to play it until this weekend.
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>>135495043
Shit, might pirate it just for Rayforce dlc. It was way too long without lock-ons.
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>>135496152
Sweet.
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>>135488825
What sticks are good? Does http://www.teyah.net/sticklag/results.html matter?
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>>135474691
Why don't you go chech again? ket is the third revision of the game, the invincibility in the beginning of any stage is part of the newer game.
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a bomb
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Using infinite bombs as makeshift savestates because I'm never playing the first 20 seconds of this fucking stage again.
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>>135499009
I stand corrected.
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>>135503902
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>>135495043
Has a price been listed yet? I'm willing to buy it, but if it costs too much I'll be forced to wait.
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why is mushihimesama so hard
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>>135507174
What's giving you problems?
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>>135507127
I think I read somewhere that it's $5 each or like $10 or 11 for the lot at once.
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>>135507618
That's actually not too bad, considering that the game itself goes for full retail price. I was expecting something like $20 desu.
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>>135507790
April 7th is when the Sega ships get released, so there's that too
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>>135507370
generally i just die like a retard by flying into obvious bullets but specifically the centipedes in stage 4 make me either die or use bombs because i can seem to destroying the ones coming from the bottom fast enough to cancel all the bullets
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>>135507174
Game is a cake walk on default mode
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POWA UP!
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Extremely weird credit. I went into the loop with 1 extend left and then proceeded to No-Miss all the way to 2-5. At least I reached Evaccaneer. 2-ALL should be very soon.
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Scrub alert. I thought I was gonna get 600k but then I accidentally flipped the camera and then also forgot to flip it back to horizontal. Just fuck my shit up buddy.

Enjoyable scene.
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bomba!
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Played Blue Wish Resurrection and Cho Ren Sha 68k for the first time today, holy shit I've missed out some great games. Gonna practice those now
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>>135513121
Don't have the video with BOOOOOOOOMBA! for only 10 seconds anymore. Fuck.
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>>135513753
You should try out Kaikan as well. It's also free, and I love it a lot.
http://www.rgcd.co.uk/2013/03/kaikan-pc.html
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>>135514502
Downloaded, thank you!
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>>135514502
>http://www.rgcd.co.uk/2013/03/kaikan-pc.html
This looks pretty damn cool man, I'll give it a try. Thanks a lot.
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>>135508975
Not flying into obvious bullets comes with time, but even with a maniac 1cc in Mushi and 1ccs in other games I still do it constantly. For the centipedes I would suggest just ignoring the heads entirely if you can and focus on making your way to the tails. Are you using the shot power glitch?
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>>135511508
How the HELL did you do get a second loop like that?
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>>135516646
>shot power glitch
no, whats that?
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>>135517031
Hold autofire (C) and tap shot (A). If I remember how it works correctly, it makes your options shoot more, and if you're point-blanking (which I do against the centipedes) you'll do quite a bit more damage.

If you're playing on the PC port, rapid shot should be bound to a key/button, which is how I used it.
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>>135504021
What game?
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Truly awful
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>>135520737
PC-98 has it worse. Trust me, that's nothing.
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>>135521186
I know, and this isn't including ZUN's "white on light blue" business.

I initially made these photos because I was 2 degrees of separation from a guy making his own shmup, and I wanted some kind of evidence to go "you're doing exactly something I have a problem with, please cease."
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>>135517251
Not that anon, but I think this is something Cave put in the game intentionally as a technique.
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>>135521406
Ugh... It hurts to look at the screenshot itself.
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>>135521417
It's just a glitch, they never expected you to use the two shot buttons together. The increased damage is a weird side effect.


Slow progress with stage 5. I'm starting to make it through the first lantern section sporadically, but then died in the most humiliating way possible to an item carrier.
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>>135521417
It's definitely a glitch, since their games before and after don't have it. It was most likely left in, and in fact made easier to do in the ports, because other applications of it allow you to raise the counter a lot higher and bank it.
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>>135522118
>but then died in the most humiliating way possible to an item carrier.
That's rough, anon. You playing 1.5?

I don't think I have the patience or endurance to do Futanari ultra, but I'd like to work on maniac one day after I grow some balls.
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>>135521417
>Cave
>competent game design
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Post you're controllers
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>>135522770
Is that a snowglobe
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>>135522894
nah just a clear bubbletop
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>>135522770
Too lazy to take a photo of my stick.
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>>135522629
Yeah, 1.5. I don't know how far I'll get with it but I'd like to see. I've been working on some Maniac too but I'm using Clover-TAC's run as a reference and his cancels are absolutely insane. Like super optimized.
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Trying to work up the motivation to do a scoring run in Deathsmiles. I usually start off with the intention of warming up in practice mode and taking a few tries at stages to make sure I've got my route down, but by the time I finish that I wind up not feeling like playing anymore. I might still be too inconsistent at getting it right.
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>>135524096
I usually alternate days of practice and attempts for games I'm serious about. Maybe that would help you?
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bumo
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Bump.
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Goodnight /shmupg/!
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>>135528496
Sweet dreams of high scores.
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Why don't you play really hard games like Binding of Isaac and IWTG?
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>>135529007
I already played LoLK

>tfw stuck on the final pattern with no bombs for 6 hours
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>>135522770
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG1p5F4QgSQ

He did it! He d-
>type Z

aw...
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>>135529007
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>>135529187
I made the mistake of choosing Marisa for my first (and only) Point Device Mode clear.

It was hell.
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>>135531269
Imagine putting 200 hours into something that actually matters.
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>>135531652
I would never
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>>135531652
But wait there's more
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>>135531802
Anon, I am offended at your lack of dedication toward shooting games. This is a safe space for shmup players.
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>>135531269
>actually really playing this shit
I was just baiting, but this sadly doesn't surprise me
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>>135531269
nuclear throne is my favorite shmup
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>>135532131
I know, right? Who actually plays video games they like anymore smdh

>>135532268
How many loops? I'm at 25 hours and I almost made it but I decided to be retarded instead.
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>>135532410
the highest loop ive gotten to is only 2
and total loops is like 20 something
a good part of that play time might be from my brother leaving his laptop on with it running tho lol
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Well if you think I'm gonna keep helldumping myself for free bumps you can forget it.
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Anyways I've spent thousands on hours on stupid shit, no way to measure it but I just know.
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>>135532095
Toxic casuality.
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>>135524096
Got my necessary practice in and still managed to pull off a run. It's not a new PB but I'm very satisfied at the moment because this is the first time I've broken 200 million without using suicide bullets. Hades Castle could've gone a lot better but I'll take it.
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>DBCS just updated
I think it's time, friends.
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>>135538081
thanks for the heads up! checking now
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>>135538081
Game wants an update but the store page shows the same stuff as this morning.
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>>135538294
Still no DLC in store, but if the game just patched then it's happening really soon.
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>>135538372
>>135538383
Well, when it happens it happens. I'm always hype for more DBCS

maybe hype enough for there to be a week of it within the next month or so
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>>135511508
Wat how. Did you record it?
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>>135538081
>>135539161
DLC's up. It's $5 per ship, no collection discount. Shrug, oh well
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>>135541910
That's pretty gay
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>>135542073
bundle added

http://store.steampowered.com/bundle/258
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>>135544221
That's a lot better.
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So, anyone tried out the new ships?
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>>135547275

They're pretty damn fun. It's a shame that you can't use them in AC mode for us with dual screen set ups, they're pretty much gated to DLC mode, but it's still worth the bundle price. I'm excited for Opa-Opa in a few weeks
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>DBCS DLC
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>when you deviate from your route but still survive anyway
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>>135552615
Gotta love luck dodges.
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>>135554075
>luck dodges
Nah that was skill senpai.
Okay I might have gotten lucky once or twice
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why aquas always sound high
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>>135555308
That's a good way to play shmups, anon.
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>>135552615
Sometimes I wonder how the fuck I survived this game.
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>>135559186
That part aint so bad if you adhere to the route(read: the bees dont fuck you over). The part before and after an infinitely worse.
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What's a good joystick for shmups? I have a hori hayabusa on mine, wondering if there are better choices I should consider.
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ddp is really fun actually
i think im gonna try and 1cc that instead of ddp2
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>>135562972
DDP is pretty great.
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>>135564885
as a beginner should i just go for bees and not really pay mind to chains?
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>>135565191
That's what I'm doing. Score will be terrible, but if you practice you'll be able to get into the second loop via bees.
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>>135565265
yeah i just wanna get some extends
i can usually no miss till stage 4 but i get extremely butt frustrated when i die on stage 1
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>>135565365
>yeah i just wanna get some extends
Then I would suggest learning to chain stage 1 and 2 at least.
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>page 10
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>batsugun has sound finally
noice
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bumpa
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>>135569276
is this not a normal occurrence
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>>135574086
What, Page 10?
Sometimes, but all threads must reach Page 10 eventually.
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>>135561671
Well it's not that part that usually fucks me over.
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I'm torn between starting to learn Ketsui or playing DBCS or sleeping because I still have classes for one more day.
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>>135574923
Which one is it? For me it's the very last part with those spinning shits. I still havent gotten past that without getting hit.
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>>135574974
Stop playing memegames and start playing good shit like the cool kids playing ketsui.
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>>135576696
I'll show you a memegame m*therfucker
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>>135576696
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTNew0mcuIk

Opa Opa OP plz nerf
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>>135575175
Fuck I know what part I'm thinking of but it's not coming to me. I know it's before that part. In fact, typically that part never gave me trouble.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGe42Ib2l1w

Is that a 360 controller? Is he using the d-pad or analog stick?
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>>135580501
Is it pic related? Because this is probably the hardest enemy formation in the game.
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>>135581310
Yes. That's exactly what I was thinking of.
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>>135581506
Yup, that part is a bitch. If you get 3 of those fuckers on screen you might as well bomb right then and there.
And let's not get started on the popcorn that comes in.
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>>135581753
Aside from that part, the stage is semi manageable.
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>>135581828
Eh, I still havent gotten the first and last part down. This and Stage 2-5 are pretty much the only places where I am guaranteed to lose lives.
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>>135582341
I'd say it's mainly the boss of stage 2-5 that I might lose a life at.
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>>135582890
I like how the Stage 5 boss is the one that gets the hardest with each loop, yet he's the only one who doesnt have one of those power-up carriers before him.
What a troll move.
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>>135583124
Eh, even then aside from phase 2, I don't have too much of a problem with the stage 5 boss.
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How am I supposed to get better at Battle Garegga when everything in the game is just random as fuck?
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>>135585260
play better games
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tfw you manage to get out of kags savespot on the 4th last spell for the first time
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>>135587937
For example? I like the game but it really requires a lot of just pure dodging and herding skills where memorization really doesn't help much anymore..
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>>135587937
Shut up bananafaggot
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>>135589207
Thats what makes raizing so good imo, everytime you play will test you in a diff on the fly kinda way.>>135580954
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>>135580954
Gus uses the dpad.
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>>135589934
Yea, it is kinda cool, but also really frustrating when you played the game for hundrets of hours already and still die cheap deaths in the first levels.

Also, the constant suiciding is kinda annoying imo.
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>>135589998
Gus is stupid though.
Maybe he would get a run past stage 2 if he didn't use an input device that's notorious for being inaccurate as fuck.
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>>135589856
back to the farm
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>>135590385
back to your limited taste of 2 meme games. Raizing to hard for you? awww bless.
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>>135590319

>Gus is stupid though.
for using something he feels comfortable with?
You know he got the counterstop with the same pad right? Let me guess you're a keyboard fag?
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>>135592129
No, not just that

>playing 1.01
>playing Palm in 1.01 where he's slow as fuck, has gimped damage and can't kill the st1 midboss without wasting a bomb
>doing stupid tricks in stage 1 that barely give any more score
>restarting after every single mistake instead of playing the credit out
>yelling like a retard whenever anything goes wrong
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>>135592064
im not even him, its hilarious how you think that memespouter is the only one who dislikes garegga
only a farmtard would be stupid enough to jerk off yagawa games for their artificial complexity
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>>135592634
Scratch that, it turns out you can just BARELY do the midboss without bombing, but you have to get right in his fucking face. Like BL Original style in his face, which is obviously extremely dangerous in ulty.
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>>135592634
He loves a challenge clearly.

>>135592878
rightttt and only you would be stupid enough to feel you have to clarify you're not someone in an already anonymous environment and even more stupid to even dare using a bizarre say nothing term like "artificial complexity" there is no such thing.
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>>135592064
>Raizing to hard for you?
Not him, but if the games wouldn't be so luck dependent the whole time, they wouldn't even be that hard, but when the medals constantly fall into the bullets due to bad luck, there is little you can do.
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>>135593768
The enemies drop medals in set intervals, senpai, there's nothing luck about it unless you lose track of the drop order.


They also drop faster at higher rank.
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>>135593768
>Not him, but if the games wouldn't be so luck dependent the whole time, they wouldn't even be that hard, but when the medals constantly fall into the bullets due to bad luck, there is little you can do.
Ahhhh butthurt by suckage, a common trait amongst the stg fanbase. Whilst it's true that occasionally you can get unlucky you are speaking specifically about score and unless you are going for wrs it really isn't a big deal to build that medal value back up in a short time with little damage to your end result which ok is a little more damaging in gayrager but in batrider and ibara especially. Compare them to a cave game like daioujou where a single chain drop mistake has just cost you millions and completely fucked your score? In ibara you can get medals back up to max in literally no time.
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>>135594375
Yes, they drop in intervals, but don't try to tell me that you can control this completely, when there are constantly umpteens of enemies rushing at you, umpteens of bullets, and you still have to collect medals at the same time.

Perhaps if you are a total pro at the game, but otherwise there is also always a bit of luck involved.
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>>135594610
>you are speaking specifically about score and unless you are going for wrs it really isn't a big deal to build that medal value back up in a short time with little damage
Playing for score is how you play Garegga, since otherwise it gets too hard due to not having enough lives to suicide to lower the rank. And losing your chain is pretty damn punishing, in Garegga at least (haven't played the others yet).
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>>135594917
Jesus what an insufferable sperg, you'll fit right in with the community where apparently everything has to be precisely clarified so my bad i should of said medals specifically. Im perfectly aware of how to play Garegga and that's why im telling you you're wrong, so again unless you're going for wr losing a medal is not the end of the world (lower medals do contribute to higher rank increase however) even Kamui does in her live performance in stage 6 and still finishes with some obscenely hiscore that you'll probably never reach.
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>>135595350
I never said it's the end of the world, you fucktard, all I'm saying is just that there is always a bit of luck involved in this game. There is luck involved in how the medals fall, in how the enemies shoot, how much score you do at the birds, what kind of attacks the bosses do, if you are able to completely shoot the destroyable bullets from bosses away, etc etc.

learn to read before replying you dumbfuck.
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>>135595743
>learn to read before replying you dumbfuck.
That's fucking rich desu. Go be a dumb cunt somewhere else maybe lube up and sit on your sanwa.
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Fuck yes. 0M4B phase 1 as Reco, finally.

That third attack is a lot of fun actually.
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>>135602573
>tfw fraps still doesnt want to record Final Boss
>it's the ONLY game where this happens
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>>135604269
Does OBS do local recording or is it streaming only?
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>>135606361
it can do both
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>>135385373
Got it desu
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>>135606361
Both at any sound or video quality.
https://my.mixtape.moe/wrqomn.webm An example.
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>get frustrated and decide to stop playing shmups for the day
>but all I want to do is play shmups all day
Send help.
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>>135614182
Simple. Play a shmup you think is easy or that you have mastered already. That way, you won't be frustrated and still play shmups all day.
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>>135614182
Play a 2hu, or BWR+ on anything but its highest difficulty.
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>>135615146
What if the shmup is so difficult that you always exactly die at the final boss and you can't stop playing it because you can beat it, but it just never happens?
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>>135614182
I've managed to spend the day without playing Ketsui so far!
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>>135615682
If it makes you feel better, I spent 4 days practicing DDP and I still can't beat the 3rd stage boss without dying once and it took me a whole month to get to Len'en EMS's TLB and another month to actually capture it.
You have to take it easy and practice while your mind is okay with it. If you overpractice, it just kills your progress. Relax, you'll manage.
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tfw bad
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>>135616613
That webm is too tall anon.
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>>135616821
n it didnt trim to the right time
fuckin webm for retards
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When the last thread died I thought to myself "Let's check out the speedrunning general, I haven't been there in a while"

I didn't know about the horror contained within.
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>>135617779
serg died a while ago...
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>>135617779
Yeah, it's really sad. I don't even use it for events now.
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>>135617779
I just want to stop the shmup community becoming cancer like the speedrunning community did
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>>135618434
This. I just want us to get along and do something decent for once instead of being cancer.
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>>135618434
What happened to speedrunning? I don't go to /srg/.
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>>135618434
this is why we dont want shmups to become popular
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>>135618824
rampant eceleb culture
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>>135618958
Don't forget drama mongering
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>>135618434
>otaku
>hipsters
>elitists
Already happened a long time ago. I love shmups, but I find the community cancerous as fuck.
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>>135620513
*In the west at least, not sure about Japan.
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Boom
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>>135615146
Yeah that's what I did.
Seems like I just cant stop playing CRS.
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>>135623090
That's great man. Just take the day off from hard ones and then beat that boss tomorrow.
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why dont people play bakraid as much as garegga?
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>>135624192
Actually after playing for CRS for a bit I felt great again, and managed to get farther than I usually do in Final Boss.

I must say that Impossible One fight in Final Boss is tons of fun, love how they kept most of his patterns but updated them a bit.
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>>135625410
>Impossible One fight in Final Boss
What?
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>>135625410
Keep it up anon!
In the meantime, I barely practiced DPP but little progress. Still trying to get better at it.
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>>135626130
Impossible One #2 makes a cameo appearance in Final Boss, that's what.
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>>135626862
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>>135617779
Holy shit, that general is so fucking bad. If this happens to Western shmup community I'll retreat to solitude and will solely consult Japanese superplays.
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>>135628670
Don't worry, there are not enough western shmup players for e-celeb culture
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>>135628670
Don't even say that, you might jynx it.

>>135629230
I sure as hell hope so.
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>>135620513

Your problem.. You should care about replays and replays only.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/mjszpr.webm
How the fuck am I supposed to capture this?
Fuckin' hell JynX, balance your shit ;_;
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>>135629754
>says the person who posts on a shmup general on 4chan
If you wouldn't care about the community you wouldn't be here
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>>135630018

"I don't care about you. I care about the technology(...) that's what's important to me". – Linus Torvalds.

So bring me replays and discussion of the genre and keep your tweeter drama to yourself.
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>>135631189
Rest assured, there are not nearly enough people interested in this genre to get serg-style Twitter drama.
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Got Larsa #3 down to 1M4B
Feels like it's just complete luck how long it lets you dodge for.
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>>135631189
Oh, so now you also want discussions? I thought it's just about replays?
Also, where did I ever start any drama, you fucktard? Are you fucking retarded?
All I've said is just that the community is cancerous, like any other community.

The fact that you get so upset about this, only proves my point even more that you identify with the community.
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>>135631189
>"I don't care about you. I care about the technology(...) that's what's important to me".
Based Linus.
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>no game of the week during my spring break
You wound me, serge.
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>>135632212
just play IN66666
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>>135631560

>lol u mad xDDD
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Oh wow, bump limit and I didn't even notice
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Go go go!
>>135634385
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