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Holy shit this is dead

Still alive and kicking >:^)

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you mean onlywatch, right?

nice thread

>wake up
>/notin/

>>135057804
same

although my blizz account has been dead for about 2 years so i doubt that helps

>>135057873
I played the beta weekend, left feedback on the forums, but I guess blizz thought that was enough for me

>/vg/ thread incredibly slow and dying at regular intervals
>Twitch viewercount down in the odd thousands and losing to "Music"
>no threads on /v/

What went wrong?

>>135058092
that'll change once open beta is here

>>135058092
little motivation because le progress is for nothing

the big question is

are they putting solo queue before the open beta?

>>135058092
viewship isn't the mark for good game, even if a good community does help
anyway the game is made by blizzard, I don't think it'll be a problem. HoTS is shit and the popularity of blizzard means it actually has players

>>135058547
also MM is a fucking joke and you get constantly put against premades as a solo player

>>135058092
>people think a good analysis of how well something is doing is twitch viewership or /v/ threads
What went wrong with society senpai?

>>135058547
>there are people who need to constantly grind to have fun with a game

>>135061124
you kinda need some sort of carrot on a stick when the gameplay itself isn't rewarding

>>135058092

Closed, restricted beta.

>>135062831
>>135062951
>tumblr

>>135062951
not too bad

ded

thred

>>135070729
Do you think her ult needs buffing?

just kill yourselves

>>135072371
?

>>135071537
her ult is frustratingly RNG if you are not using it from up close

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>these people will be playing the game
>these people will be giving feedback on the game

>>135057873
I got in the very first wave even though the last blizz game I played was WotLK back in 2008, so I doubt that has anything to do with it

This game is utter trash and I sincerely hope blizz fixes it. My last three fps have been Overwatch, SWBF and left4dead2

Has anyone looked at paladins? It looks like a budget knockoff of this game. The sound and art are kind of horrible.

Yeah they are different genres but still.

>>135075760

It's terrible, you should try it just to experience it and let it traumatize you.

The only other semi decent FPS out there that isn't one of the obvious big names like CS/BF/CoD would be Dirty Bomb. Unfortunately that game has some really lazy devs and a lackluster community, it's somewhat fun despite that, personally nowhere near as fun as OW but it'll help tide you over.

>>135077929
I've got like 60 hours of dirty bomb. Got bored. The f2p rotation can create some really unfun weeks.

>>135078606

>He doesn't like Phoenix/Phantom/Proxy weeks

>>135078745
vassili

>>135078865

I guess the worst would be Sparks/Vasseline/MagicalJumpingBlackMan.

The game could be fun but man could it also be really fucking annoying, I hate dealing Mei in OW but nothing compares to trying to endure sticky bomb spam.

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>start doing too well
>game suddenly puts you with the worst shitters and in tons of doomed matches
so this is how they force the 50% win rate

>>135079570

>Have a really fun game
>Close, both teams had chances to win
>Pull it out in the end with a play or two
>SWITCHING SERVER, JOINING BETTER GAME
>Everyone runs off and dies one by one
>They spam chat for heals despite being in retarded places
>Refuse to focus on the point and chase kills (that they don't get)
>Lose horribly
>Trend continues for another 3 rounds

ded

when are they going to nerf mcmei?

>>135082173
>oh no, I can't sleep on Mei anymore, she's so OP :(

Is there a reason teams aren't running torby as the 6th character on the zenlotta (double zenyatta) lineup?

200hp tracer/genji is pretty bad, but a torbjorn could buff your tracers/genjis and zenyattas before a push up to a nice 275hp. Admittedly not as good as other heroes DM wise but not terrible, and between the armour and the turret it makes up for it? Also, molten core is really strong.

>>135084201

>Can contest a point while frozen
>Can throw ult a long distance
>Ult radius is massive, covers an entire point

If shes going to be allowed to spam ice spikes and have more health now then you need to nerf her ice block and/or ult in some way.

>>135090005
She could always do that stuff when she was considered shit

She's fine now, l2p

What is blizzard going to do to get rid of this double zen/symmetra shit?

>>135090546
what's the problem with that?

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>8 supports

I got in in november, and i'm already tired of playing. Rank 55.
I wouldn't count too much on this game, to be honest.

>>135095592
>I don't find it fun so you won't either
Plenty of people are having tons of fun with it

>>135088952
>200hp Genji

Torb counters genji pretty well now, I spent a whole day playing genji and torb's turret won't fuck off from the smallest gap

some makes a post on the forums criticizing the game
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20742844385

blizzdrones flock as fast as possible to disprove everything

>anecdotal evidence
hurr, but my games have been fine, stop whining, op

>dismissal
op is a troll post, there's no way anyone can hate the game

>refusal to see problems
but it's a beta, it'll be fixed in the 2 months until release

>ad hominem remarks
op is a troll and hates the game, therefore his criticisms are invalid

>general nonsensical comments
hurr, if you hate it so much, why did you play 350 games?
(and if the op had only played 5 games, this same person would have bitched "you need to play more than 5 games to understand how good overwatch is!")

christ, and these are the people that Jeff Kaplan listens to for balancing the game? good god, i'm glad i canceled my preorder

>>135098008
>Overwatch, the newest and most anticipated Blizzard game, is bad. Very bad.
This is a really good way to get people to just stop reading and disregard your opinion. You don't get people to change their mind like that.

>>135093429
that's koth, right?

literally every complaint about matchmaking gets met with some faggot spewing

>there isn't enough people for good games
>the beta has a very small population of players
>it'll get better when there are more people

FUCK OFF WITH THIS BULLSHIT

Blizzard isn't retarded
if the playerbase actually was small enough that you'd get all these messed up and fucked up matchmade games, THEN BLIZZARD IS NOT GETTING ANY GOOD DATA FOR THEIR BETA

they invited enough people to be representatitve of the overall playerbase, and as one anon already showcased, he'd been keep track of everyone he's met since November and he's come across over 10,000 people

THAT IS NOT A SMALL NUMBER, fucking christ, and you only need a sample size of like 3000 for a statistical model with a 95% confidence rate too

so many fucking blizzdrones don't even think critically

if the population size actually were small enough to actively influence matchmaking games, then the data is going to be wrong and messed up, and Blizzard (despite all their retarded decisions) is not THAT stupid

holy fucking shit
matchmaking in this game is atrocious
they have a large enough sample of players that this is a VERY GOOD FUCKING INDICATOR of what the game is going to be like at release if the system stays the way it is right now

>>135098771 indeed

>>135097141
lol?

genji is the tob counter if anything

you can already almost destroy the turret with your reflect alone

you have no damage fall-off so you can easily snipe the turret even from other side of the map

You know the only thing as annoying as overwhelming positivity is overwhelming negativity.

Anyone wanna play with me?

>>135100028
Why is it atrocious?
How the fuck can you even tell if it's good or bad?

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>depending on our testing needs

>>135102064
once the open beta starts, sure

post id

>>135100028

It was 1k people, senpai, not 10k. And 1k unique persons, so no duplicates. He also had around 500 games, so it's literally impossible to come across 10k people.

>>135104775

>cuck not on filter
>fammie still in

fuck this retarded gook.

>team picks 2 snipers for defense
>get walked all over

gee whiz

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>>135102064
What's your id

>me and youngest cousin are pretty hyped for OW
>go to his place, show him a video with all the skins
>widow comes up
>"yess she's awesome she's gonna be my main for sure"

so much for playing with friends

>>135106194
>maining widow
>not reinhardt or genji

what the fuck is he? 10?

>>135106310
>maining genji

ayy

>>135106392
>Not wanting to be a cyber ninja

Pshh nothing personal kiddo

>>135106529
personnel*

>>135106310
>Not McCree

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>>135107039
>he plays mccree

1v1 me m8

There really aren't that many people in the beta, if I open up any stream and watch a couple rounds I'm guaranteed to see 7-8 people I play with on a regular basis. Even when I play most of my teammates are people I've already seen multiple times, very few new players.

The big problem is quality though, most people in the beta are clearly not too familiar with FPS games and it makes the majority of my rounds a waste of time.

>>135106529
>not maining Pharaoh
Enjoy staying down there fag, I'll be up here in the sky rekking u xd

>>135107536
I see so much horrible aim and lack of awareness

Like I might bodyshot someone with Widowmaker from far away and then I see through my own scope how our Tracer that is next to said enemy fails to finish them off when they have like 20% hp

Or a Reaper might drop behind our team and start shooting people and some dudes in the frotnline don't even react to the Reaper blasting away 10 feet behind them, as if they are playing with no sound

There was this super egregious example of my teammate not being aware of an enemy behind him and I had to ask him if he was playing without sound and he said he was

Like who the fuck plays FPS games like that

smdh

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>>135107736
>Implying

>>135107962

I'm convinced most people aren't using sound, most of my rounds are lost because the rest of my team keeps getting flanked or outright shot by someone walking behind them and they do nothing to stop it. I'm half tempted to write up a gigantic post about how Blizzard can setup the training grounds to get people some understanding and practice with these real game situations but I know people would bitch and say they don't need help with it.

>Don't push out too far on Defense
>Don't run in one by one
>Control flankers
>Listen
>You have to stand on the objective

these are things the average player has no clue about

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>>135108292

are we posting em?

>>135108615
O-okay I-I'm sorry

>>135108850

Oh I'm not the other guy, I was just seeing if people were going to post hero stats, I'm curious what you guys are playing.

>>135108615
Back to ur cuck shed Olof

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rate

>>135111806
not a mainer faggot so that's something atleast/10

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>>135108292
fag

>>135108615
cuck

>>135111806
cool guy

Looking for people to play with
I just started
External#1789

>>135100028
The issue is not in the matchmaking, the issue is in the core gameplay.

Also:

PAGE 10 DEAD AS FUCK GAME

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I got in a few days ago. Why does no-one play support in any of my games.

>>135117862
>symmetra #1

atta boy

this game is fun

>>135111806
I hope you have the Lionhardt skin

Remember, this game is fair and balanced!

>>135123312
>implying it's possible to pick and choose the skin of the hero you love playing most
ha

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I wonder what merchandise will come, I'd like some figures.

>That guy who switches characters constantly because he thinks it will help

If you aren't finding yourself effective it's probably because you aren't good.

beta invite pls blizzard i'm expert tryhard scout

Why do I sometimes get a game that has 3-6 spectators? Why do people do that?

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>Letting me outsnipe you
>As Zenyatta

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>>135123584
Pharah a cute

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>>135125402
That she is.

This game is so fun

Also, how come Soldier 76 is so damn fun to play?
One of my most played heroes

>>135125703

He's a solid pick. Can stand on his own. Pretty good on offense/defense. Self heal. EZ Ult.

>>135060325
>>135079570
>>135080136
>>135100028
this this this
matchmaking has been fucking retarded lately, it was working pretty well before but idk what they did. every fucking game has been a stomp, win or lose, i barely even see overtime anymore. the second you win too many times it forces you to lose so you're 50/50.
who thought of this 50/50 shit? Just put people who are the same mmr against one another i dont get why it has to make sure you are winning and losing the correct amount of times, its not fucking fun. I can barely enjoy winning now cause the enemy team just falls over so the game can tell me LOOK YOU WON.

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why is roadhog's ult so shit compared to everyone elses?

>>135128782
You have no idea what 50/50 is supposed to mean retard
It implies that you're getting matched with people of your own skill, meaning it would be expected for you to win and lose 50/50

Fucking retard kill yourself

>>135132635

What he means is that isn't happening, his games are all one sided stomps. Mine are as well, the vast majority of my games see one team clearly being decent at the game while the other doesn't know which button fires their gun. This is forced 50, not proper matchmaking.

>>135132635
yes this is why I keep getting matched with shitters against lvl 150+ premades

fucking drone

>>135133130
I'm not saying it's working I'm saying you're a retard for not realizing what 50/50 win rate is supposed to mean faggot

>>135133051
same goes for you

>>135133582
i'm not the one you were responding to, i perfectly understand what 50/50 is supposed to be but the fact is that's not how it works in this game

up yours, kaplan!

>>135133582

You're confusing 50% winrate with "Forced 50".

50% winrate means you're playing against evenly matched opponents and your win rate reflects that. Forced 50 is you winning a game then the system saying "ok he has to lose a game so let's put him in a team with total imbeciles so he is guaranteed to lose".

>>135134208
How do you know it's forced?
Oh wait you don't you're just talking literal shit out of your asshole and acting smart
How about this, it's not "forced 50", it's just broken
That actually makes fucking sense, unlike your retarded theory

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>>135128782
Ever since I got to 2:1 W/L after ~60 games matchmaking got 100% retarded, I'm stuck in high level premade hell

>>135134572

Because I'm playing the game and experiencing it.

In what fucking universe is it acceptable for me to get matched up against the Seagull 5-6 man level 150+ stack with a team that includes THREE people under level 10.

>>135135758
You're honestly retarded
Nigger, what the fuck does my post say?
Does it say it works?
No, I'm just saying your reason is retarded

>>135135990

You somehow managed to argue yourself full circle so that you actually agree with us that MM is totally broken. At least you aren't as bad as the fanboy spammers from last night.

>>135135758
you are retarded
like, literally retard

your reasoning is this
>i'm doing well
>matchmaking system sees that i'm doing well
>oh shit, he can't keep winning, better pair him against the best players in the game
>matchmaking "forces" you to lose

that's what you are saying
and other anon and i are saying that you are retard if you think that's actually how the system works

the system pairs you up against other people that it thinks you're equally skilled with, and because you're playing against other equally skilled players, you're likely to end up with a 50/50 ratio, you faggot

if you get paired against seagull and his premade, maybe the system thinks you're good enough to fight against him and his team

fucking christ, did you min max or something?
you might be good at overwatch, but your intelligence is so fucking nonexistent

>>135136228
I never said it was good you lunatic

>>135136421

For some reason you can't comprehend what people are telling you. Having a 50% winrate is perfectly fine, that's the ideal situation for everyone. The issue here is that you are NOT getting matched up with players around your skill level, see >>135134694 for a clear example of this taking place.

Right now there are three culprits:

>Not enough people in the beta
Maybe the system is trying to match people with equal skill brackets but there aren't enough current players to get it right, this is another problem that people have been telling Blizzard about for a while.
>Forced 50
Already explained a dozen times, terrible.
>No actual matchmaking system exists
It could just be picking people at random and not doing any sort of filtering.

In no way shape or form is matchmaking even close to working properly right now and to argue against it means you're probably not in the game and not experiencing how terrible it is.

>more matchmaking shitflinging
they should just have me work on it, I'm a genius software engineer

>>135136769
>this shows a clear example of this taking place
>shows a screenshot with literally zero meaningful information

maybe Hakuei, Beanjamine, Maverick21, Ceide, Voidspawn, and Franky have all won like 70% of their games? maybe they're all really fucking good at playing the game?

maybe Alukard, Whiskee, McClane, Caroline, Tibiskuite, and Exon are literally shit at the game? they might be a pre-made, but all they do is just play casually and for fun without actually trying, maybe they're all at 45% win rate together?

who the fuck knows
the fact is that the screenshot you're touting has LITERALLY ZERO MATCH MAKING INFORMATION. the only thing we can see are player levels, and you can get to 220 by just spamming VS AI games. it doesn't mean that you're actually good at the game you fucking sperg

>forced 50
FORCED 50 DOES NOT EXIST, IT IS NOT EVEN A VALID POINT TO BRING UP, YOU AUTIST.

>not enough people in the beta
also wrong, because statistically, there are enough people in the beta for Blizzard to make good balancing decisions, if there weren't enough people to be statistically relevant, they would invite more people

>no actual matchmaking exists
also proven wrong, because based kaplan has already told shitters and scrubs to 'git gud' by releasing information that skilled players win on Attack 60% of the time and unskilled players win only 35% of the time, so matchmaking DOES exist

>>135137582
Ok I see what you are now, I'll not waste any more time.

>>135138259
You just got told anon, no more games for you, it's past your bedtime

>>135138259
Kill yourself

>>135138834
>>135138867
hello kaplan

I preordered. Why? Alcohol.

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>>135139402
me too buddy

>>135058092
nobody can fucking play it

>Mercy's stern, matronly spirit was a less-used archetype that I really enjoyed playing as. I appreciated her maturity and tempered kindness. Her voice expressed her age and her experience in the field. Her old VO gave the impression of a woman who was focused and knowledgeable, but not rigid or lacking compassion. She seemed solid, caring, and trustworthy — exactly what you'd want from a healer.

>The new VO almost expresses the tired-out trope of the self-confident, maybe kind of aggressive woman. But I say "almost" because I think the VO ultimately doesn't describe her character anymore in any way other than German. Other posters have described how the previous actress could express a movement of complex emotions that revealed a lifetime of developed character. The new VOs lack age and make her sound young, excitable, and cute in a way that better fits another archetype, and another character altogether.

>I really appreciate Blizzard's attention to detail in trying to capture geographically accurate accents. However, as someone else on the thread said pretty well, I don't think talent is a good sacrifice for authenticity.

>Consider Lucio — I stinkin' love his VOs! However, we all know that's not accurate to his region. I would be really, really sad if his lines were re-recorded with a worse actor for the sake of accuracy, and I don't think I'm alone there.

>Please bring back Mercy's old VOs!

Holy fuck how can people this autistic live?

I want to Git Gud™ before final release , but I don't have beta until May. What game should I play to prepare?

>>135143737
unreal tournament, quake, dirty bomb, TF2

>>135143423

This is what happens when video games become more mainstream, people who don't understand multiplayer games flood into them and have no idea what the purpose of the game is.

To them it's just cosmetics, crate opening, and running around looking at the sky. The concept of competition is lost on them. Her new VA is better too.

So how should blizzard nerf zenyatta?

At least make it so discord has a duration or something.

>>135129096
You have to be kinda creative how to use it, on defense i usually use it to push back when lucio or zenyatta ults to ruin their push. I also use it sort of as a counter to genjis ulting and pushing back junkrats ult.

Also sometimes it can work wonder with walls etc to lock someone up there, or combo with mei or zarya ultimate because it doesnt push them back then.

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post 'em

>>135125703
because you like call of duty.

>>135152176
The way soldier plays can be applied to a billion other fps games you idiot

>>135152291
Which call of duty popularized.

>>135152412
retard

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>>135152481

>>135153085
mccancer rides again~

>>135153085
Roadhogs hook is a broken mess and not very fun to play against. You should at least be able to shoot at roadhog while you get dragged towards him.

>>135153906
how is it broken? it works just fine. half the hero pool can escape from his hook after he drags you in anyway. it would be useless if you could shoot him while being hooked.

>>135153950
Its about making counterplay to a 6 seconds cooldown that is impossible to miss with. Roadhogs shotgun one shots heroes close range.

>>135154149
Yes and?
Mccree kills almost anything at close range too

>>135154149
>impossible to miss
odd, i have never seen a roadhog get a 100% accuracy card. what you really mean is it's impossible for you to dodge or predict. git gud

>>135154239
The movement in overwatch is so fucking slow its impossible to dodge it.

>>135154482
we must be playing different games or you're just bad

>>135154598
He's right
What the fuck is wrong with you you faggot

>>135154649
so many baddies -.-

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Just played a game where the Lucio never switched from speed boost. Sure it's nice to go fast, but I'd rather not die.

>>135152146
MAINER FAGS FUCK OFF

>>135154149
>Roadhogs shotgun one shots heroes close range.
not even true

>wake up
>/notin/

How is the orb of discord okay in it's current state?

It takes 0 skill to use and it's effect is perma unless you kill the bastard

How come it's not timed?
How can such a powerful thing be perma stuck on you

Just absurd

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Hey fuccbois, Zhangod here to tell you to always believe in the Pharah, and that maybe soon you will be /in/ if you're not. Have fun.

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also here's a silly tag.

>>135159557
>was never a problem
>suddenly now is

pls

>>135160732
>make an enemy take a ton more damage perma just by clicking on him after looking in his general direction
>this is not a problem
ok

>>135160870
by the way, what happens if you kill zen? does the orb remain on the target?

>>135160983
No killing him gets rid of it
It's the only way

>>135161046
well there you go then

>>135161109
Yes what a great counter to a skillless ability with endless range used by a hero which never comes close to the action since he can spam his crap across the map with no issue

Thank god you're not in the beta

>>135160626
Mei has some fat tits.

genji should have 100hp desu

>>135161459
BAD idea

>>135161425
>what are snipers

>>135143737
http://store.steampowered.com/app/422970/

Why is attacking with retarded teammates so much harder than defending with them

too far over .500

time to get matched with new wave shitters

>>135161459
FUCK YOU

Genji already dies easily

I have not played a single minute on hanzo, genji, lucio or zenyatta

i've been in since before the hiatus

>>135164813
nice

I didn't play any tanks during the beta weekend

>>135158020
A full bodyshot does 225 damage.

>>135166846
yet it's RNG as fuck and even tracer often survives it after getting hooked

>>135168319
Well they are hard to aim properly and its very unforgiving if you miss one, but i get that it can be hard for some people.

>>135168520
>hard to aim
no

it's just random

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>>135157108

>it's only a beta bro i'm gonna play whats fun xD

millennials are terrible

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY MAINERS?

seriously fuck sake

it feels like people that only play 1-3 heroes are the majority and those that have good versatility are just a tiny group

I was +12 in wins a couple hours ago

now I am +3

getting put in with new wave people who don't change heroes, who don't pick tanks or support

if I'm a tank and ask for someone to get on a healer, i'm told to do it myself

if i'm a healer and ask for a shield tank, i'm told to do it myself

did they specifically target a bunch of fucking league of legends retards this wave?

>>135169589
funniest fucking shit when people try to use millenial an insult on 4chan when they are always one themselves

>>135170829
maybe if you weren't such a shit mercy you would win more :)

>>135171203
only players that have a significantly above 50% winrate with decent amount of games are ones that don't play solo most of the time

>>135171060
until they classify people born in the mid 90's as something different than those born in the 80's, that is who millennials is being used to insult

>>135171342
there aren't people born in the 80's in 4chan though

or if there are they really need to sort their life out and find something better to do

>>135171454
there is actually quite a lot

this site has been around since before 2012, when you showed up

>>135171528
i've been here since 2007 when i was 14

>>135171203
mercy needs a reinhardt or roadhog to hide behind, even zarya

she can't keep a team of tracers, mcrees and genjis alive

I don't care about balance or gameplay, which is terrible, only about waifus.

>>135171454
born in 85 here m8

>>135171661
ever heard of this thing called porn

>>135171628
and you'll be here into your 30's, because you grew up using this site

just like a lot of people who were older than you in 2007

there is no alternative

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>>135171628
>>135172215

what do the orbs do

>>135177708
orb of harmony heals the target
orb of discord increases damage taken by target

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dead thread

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>>135183379
dead beta

>>135177708
you can get them implanted into your benis

>>135171661
whhhhoooooooaaaaaaaa

>>135170605
Because people are retarded and still can't into hero switching
>muh SKILLZ THO IM TRAINING MUH SKILLZZZZZ
just gas them all

>>135183667
i swear like 75% of players hero bars look like this:

>most played hero 50-60%
>second most played hero like 10-20%
>30-40% all the other heroes combined

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>>135184638
yup

Whenever I do get the chance to play, I just end up filling whatever role is left. No need to take yet another damage dealer when we already have 3 of them that can't aim.

Everytime I come here and read some posts, i get a little more cancer each time.

>>135154149
roadhog is the one of the shittiest characters in the game. he is ltierally free ult charge 90% of the time. all he has is his hook.

>>135185063
>lucio and mercy

ur doing god's work, anon

>>135185296
god is a cuck?

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>>135185394

>>135168520
he means its literally random, the pellets shoot out in a random spread on the reticle, so when you hook smaller targets like tracer or snipers, if you're unlucky most of the pellets will miss and then they just walk away.
its RNG

>>135185538
it's just the standard blizzdrone tactic of calling anyone criticizing the game bad

>leave game in the warmup when i see that the enemies are an obvious premade
>spend 5 minutes in the next queue
is this the punishment for not letting those fags pad their frail egos by beating solo players

>>135184638
>>135183667
>>135170605

Absolutely nothing wrong with sticking to the 3-4 characters you are best at. When you look at how vastly different the gameplay mechanics are for each character it's obvious to see that specific ones are going to mesh with an individuals skill better or worse. If someone is a god tier McCree because he has great aim then he might also be wonderful at 76 but he may be atrocious at something like Pharah due to just not being good with rockets or his skills would be utterly wasted playing something like Reinhardt or Winston, why should he switch to a character he is way less effective as just to satisfy your autism?

This is kinda how every single multiplayer game works, you don't just tell someone to play Invoker in dota because "it's just another hero" or say hey you're going to be our AWPer to someone in CS simply because they are good with an AK.

>>135189764
please don't indulge the thread's babbys

>>135189764
this is not a fucking fighting game where you have to learn precise comboes and 1 frame precise moves

playing what your team needs at a given moment is generally better in pubs than playing what you are personally best at

like i'm definitely at my best on all the hitscan offensive heroes (reaper s76 mccree tracer) but i still play plenty of lucio and winston when my team needs eithero ne

>>135183379
Damn, pharah makes my dick hard. I love brown girls so much.

>>135191032
>having a fetish for skin color
racist much?

>>135191478
>liking or disliking certain skins colors is racist and not just a matter of personal taste
Wow.

I'm a racist and even i'm offended at how racist your post is.

Whats going to happen is you will have a 6 man team queue and if they find a 6 man team of equal skill then yes you will def have what you are asking for but make no mistake, if the search range goes a bit to far they are going to put that 6 man team vs anything it can find. It would be perrty stupid on a team game that a 6 man queue had to wait 40mins to find a match cause you felt solo deserves its own place...its just bad all around

>>135194583

Solo does deserve it's own queue, it's why many games include a separate solo and group queue system.

i have no diea why i bother to keep playing this game in the hopes that it will at some point become fun

>>135194583
solo queue excludes all sorts of parties even if it's only two players

>>135191032
Likewise. The fact that there are two in this game makes me so happy.

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>tfw this thread reminded me to look at my time played since the reset
>mainly tank/support player
>see this

what am i becoming?

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>play solo
>get teamed up with 5man stack
>we laugh and have a good time trolling around add each other after game
>brother walks in room glaring at my screen
>those are all top OW players
>mfw

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>this is someone who is /in/
>inb4 blizzard removes Losses from your stat screen because this guy gets his feelings hurt when he realizes that he's shit at the game

>>135200671
>using the world troll in 2016
jfc

also who exactly were these guys

tbqh tho it doesn't matter, even the top players are still quite trash at this game. makes sense considering they are from games like tf2 and bf4 that had no competition

>>135200671
>top players
>in an extremely closed beta
is this some kind of joke?

>>135129096
see: genji

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>>135200797
>jfc
>tbqh
>Don't use the word troll, it's not trending right now

Is this you?

>>135201134
na doesnt seem to be me

>>135200990
>invite 10,000 random people
>statistically there's going to be some
>players who are "best" out of that 10,000
>players who are "worst" out of that 10,000
how is this a joke?

you take any random sample and of course there's going to be some people who are the 'best' out of that given sample size

>>135201341
the point is who cares

>>135201597
apparently you do since you're so fucking assed to make a reply

>>135202017
im not falling for your bait friendo

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>>135202201
>not falling for bait
>replies to it anyway
?

>>135202554
im not falling for that bait either buddy

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calm down bois, back to complaining about hanzo

>>135204407
>complaining about hanzo
no one ever complains about hanzo, he's actually pretty solid (except for his stupid arrow projectile size)

it's the faggots who play hanzo that people bitch about

>>135204697
>no one ever complains about hanzo
Have you heard of scatter arrow? It's one of the most bullshit skills in the game. Everyone complains about it.

>>135200261
>what am i becoming?
cancer

>>135200261
I hate you

trick me into buying overwatch

why should i buy it?

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So I played for the first time today and I think that's the best time to post some initial reactions.

The game makes it very obvious that switching heroes is possible during a match but I found myself almost never doing it during a match. It just takes too long. When you press "H" you have to first move the mouse onto the hero you are looking for and then move it to the confirm button and click.

I imagine this process was made with console in mind because there the D-Pad obviously works faster to select the hero and A/X (XBOX/PS4) probably confirms.

On the PC this is waaaay to annoying.

Proposed changes:

1) Let us navigate the hero list with W and D. We are used to these keybinds meaning LEFT and RIGHT anyway and don't have to move our hands (yes I tested the arrow buttons and they *do* work) for them.
2) Let us confirm the hero choice with a keypress, having to hover and click a button is annoying and takes too long. I suggest the space bar.

Additional ideas: The kill cam and hero changing screen should be merged. Kill cam is the first thing that comes up after you die and it should remind you that you can change your hero every time you die. There currently is a message telling you that but already showing the hero switcher would be waaay faster.

Something like pic related

The respawn experience would benefit from this change, too. You have something to look at and can consider switching the hero because the choice is right in front of you instead of hidden behind another screen and having to press the H key first. When you are watching how you got killed you probably won't notice the "Press H to change hero" message and could forget about being able to change your hero. Maybe. It was the case for me but it obviously changes for routined players. I always had the feeling that the respawn timer is too long but that was only because I never thought about changing my hero.

And now I go back to enjoying the game :)

>>135207423
You're already considering it so you're most likely going to buy it.

We don't have to convince you shit.

>>135207939
>40 money

not really,i can buy a nice unusual with that money instead.

besides,it may go f2p a few years later

>>135207651
hmmm

I feel you, but wouldn't that just save like a few seconds? hardly a priority, I'm sure there are other things you'd change in the game

>>135208149
only worth buying if you have a group of friends to play with

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>>135208149

>unusuals
>besides, my wife may let me fuck her a few years later when everyone else had fun with her

cuck pls

Real talk, though, the vast majority of online games are the most fun at the beginning (mmos, mobas, fightans, shooters, soulsborne, etc...). I doubt the game and the community would be any fun if/when it goes f2p.

>>135208992
>>135209136
i see,thanks

thats a pretty shit analogy though

>>135200671

>Had shit games most of the evening yesterday
>Take a break
>Come back and queue into a game of all level 90-200 players
>Notice a number of them were players in the gosu cup that was on earlier
>Have 5 amazingly close rounds in a row, winning 4 of them
>Everyone on both teams was amazing at the game and knew what they were doing
>LEAVING SERVER, SWITCHING TO BETTER GAME
>My new team has 3 people under level 17 including two playing Reaper
>Get stomped 3 times in a row and give up

yeahhhhh

>>135207423
don't buy it
you'll end up gambling more money for loot boxes anyway

>>135208149
You should buy it. It's a legitimately fun game and you don't need to commit large chunks hours of your life to enjoy it like other Blizzard titles. You can jump in and jump out when you want.

>dark souls 3 comes out next month
>I'm infinitely more hyped for OW

may can't come soon enough

>>135204840
>>135206897
Come on, famalam you know being bastion feels good.

this is the closest thing i could find to tell you how it feels to play bastion on defense with a pocket reinhardt and mercy

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1457164110144.webm

>>135207651

I like having the hero select hidden, I don't want to look at that shit every time I die. I can't even imagine how moving your mouse and taking half a second to click something would be an issue.

Personally I find that if you're having to switch characters more than once a game (at all really) then your problem is deeper than your comp and it's most likely that your team is either getting totally outskilled or you have dumbasses picking 3 attack Hanzos and you have no chance anyway.

>>135210325
idk what's happening on the vid but I never played bastion once

>>135208149
>may go f2p
Let's say it does, why the fuck would you want to join the game when it goes free? Have you not learned from TF2? The community literally shits itself upon going F2P, regardless of how good the community was prior. Due to this being a blizz game, the community is already pretty shit, but at the very least poorfags with shit internet will be locked the fuck out.

>>135207651
All in favor of 1. 2 I'm not really into the spacebar idea, needs to be a key out of the way like Enter. Still on keyboard for keyboard navigation, but prevents any accidental hero picks (not that they really matter in this game, but whatevs).

>>135210050
>still have to finish so many games
>dark souls 3 comes out soon
>overwatch finally launches
>cant stop playing beta
>black desert is still calling my name
>got piled on with more work
Life's Good®

>>135210785
tf2 still has a decent enough community.when did you last play it?

>>135210332

>google 1st phrase of your post
>it's not a pasta reply to a pasta post

c'mon bruh

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>>135210521
the video is one of these bad boys flying over a forest

>>135208149

I hope it never goes F2P, I have zero interest in playing anything with the F2P playerbase. Nothing good comes from it.

>>135210954

t. pug player in the comfort of his 50 players bubble

>>135210954
>decent enough
lmao

>>135211042
They'll probably eventually do it anyways, and then ramp up microtransactions to follow up. It'll happen EVENTUALLY, and when it does I'll just move on. Good games should come out by then.

>>135211123
i literally go to valve servers when i want to play tf2 though

>>135211483
as opposed to figuratively?

>>135211880
now you are just going off-topic

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>>135210785
>work

>>135129096
Just use it to kill their Reinhardt whenever it's up

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>>135129096
>expecting roadhogs abilities to work at all

Hey, do you think this game will have cross-platform play with XBone and PS4, now that they're trying to jump onto that trend?

>>135218583
did d3 go cross platform?
theres your answer

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>>135207651
>The game makes it very obvious that switching heroes is possible during a match but I found myself almost never doing it during a match. It just takes too long. When you press "H" you have to first move the mouse onto the hero you are looking for and then move it to the confirm button and click.

>this pleb got /in/ and you didnt

>>135218583

There is no way anyone would allow mouse and keyboard users to play against controller users.

>>135218867
no I want to see it, some controller plebs think they aren't at a massive disadvantage

>>135218867
Rocket League does, and now Microsoft is trying to expand cross-platform play with PC

>>135218583
more people to stomp

>That guy who talks the entire game trying to give orders and asks questions in a passive aggressive manner
>Spams chat wheel comments the whole time

how do I not get matched up with them

>>135221021
report as negative, mute, pray to blizzard

>>135221021
I'm kind of that guy

how many times do I need to spam MY ULTIMATE (SOUND BARRIER) IS READY
GROUP UP WITH ME
for people to understand?

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>>135221021
>>135221550
It's even worse when they actually relay useful information during a match in between simulating a podcast. 10/10 ill mute them anyway.

Only sounds i need are Shibayan and in game sfx.

>>135223043

If they don't understand they will never understand, spamming and acting like a dick over the mic isn't going to change anything. All you are doing is managing to annoy the few decent players on your team who are actually trying.

That's a very important lesson you have to learn about multiplayer gaming these days, especially in FPS titles. People don't understand what to do and they cannot be taught, no matter how much you try to help them, baby them along, give them orders, explain it to them, nothing will change the fact that they will NEVER understand.

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>tfw you didnt get into overwatch beta
>have to play paladins instead

okay.jpg

>>135223418
the sound and art are kind of awful

is the game at least fun?

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>>135223647
Eh, its something to do.

>Get pulled into an in progress game
>It's against a "pro" stack
>Can't do anything because people keep leaving the entire time

See this wouldn't be an issue if there were more people in the beta, a penalty for ragequitting, and maybe two separate queues.

>>135219409
>Rocket League does
nigga r u even paying attention

>>135221021
Had my first game with someone like that today. Probably was the same guy if you're playing in NA.
>Guys, where's the healer?
>We need to push guys.
>Just group up with me and push.
>Guys there's no need to worry about flanking
>*enemy team has a teleporter up so it doesn't matter if we slaughter them all*
>Um hello?
>Cmon guys just stop dying!

could have filmed a sitcom with the dude honestly.

>>135223418
>paladins
>not even paragon
ouch

>>135223308
Sometimes people listen. But if they don't listen the first time, they probably won't any other time.

The worst people to give advice to are snipers. They see all the little gold medals they get and assumes that means they're above reproach.

>>135208203
It has to be bait. You have more then enough time to switch heroes before you respawn. And if it takes you more then one second to click two buttons, then you don't have the manual agility to play anything other then Winston.

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>>135207651
These will never not amaze me. How do these people get into closed betas

It feels like any time I sit down to play Overwatch, I can attribute some number of my deaths to a relatively randomly placed Scatter Arrow; that is, my opponent has a vague idea of where my allies and I are, and lets loose a Scatter Arrow and crosses his or her fingers. Summarized, here a few of my frustrations:

1) Scatter Arrow undermines the use of cover (a building block of any FPS)
2) It allows for coin flips in a game that is built around reading opponents and conquering high skill ceilings
3) Dying instantly to Scatter Arrow feels "unfair"

While I think those are good enough reasons to replace Scatter Arrow, I'd like to talk a little bit about how Scatter Arrow doesn't feel right from a lore and design perspective.

Hanzo has extensive training in three combat disciplines that require extraordinary precision: martial arts, swordplay, and bowmanship. Hanzo is an assassin. My gut is to say that any warrior of these three disciplines takes pride in carefully planned intention. Scatter Arrow allows a player to play without intention. Hanzo would never cross his fingers after taking a shot; he would line up his shot with care, and let loose an arrow with marked intention. That is not at all the player experience that comes from Scatter Arrow.

Hanzo is further described a warrior whose motivation is "to restore his honor," and the first thing we learn about him is that he "strives to prove himself as a warrior without peer." In my mind, there is no individual warrior who seeks to prove his skill with a smattering of arrows nearly randomly placed on a battlefield. Simply put, Scatter Arrow just doesn't feel Hanzo-y. It feels more like a designer needed a second ability and just jammed in the first thing he or she could think of that was passable.

>>135152176
I haven't played any Cawadooties past Modern Warfare 2 so I'll ask you since you clearly have, but is there any way in Cawadooty to place down healing beacons and shoot rockets from (not grenades) from your assault rifle? Is there any auto aim visor feature?

>>135238565
If you're trying to claim that Soldier 76 isn't designed to feel familiar to standard shooters then you're actually wrong. The beacon is a slightly retooled regen, which most shooters have, and the rocket launcher is like the alt-weapon explosive that you'd often have. (Grenade, Rocket launcher, etc.)

It's not bad to like Soldier 76, but that's what he's built to be like.

>>135218583

No it won't, They confirmed on twitter. It's the best business, otherwise it'd kill the console sales because the preorder kids would get raped by PC and drop the game while shittalking it and convicing his friends and the internet to not buy it.

>>135134694

literally who are those people? I think they are just high level shitters and you had similar MMR as them

>>135164568

shit genji players die easily

>There needs to be options to turn off tips and to darken the finding match screen. It's WAY too bright for any gamer's eyes. I like to play this game in darkness while my wife sleeps but that screen wakes her. Please add an option to disable or darken.

>>135239298
Doesn't sound like he meant PC would be included, just ps4 and xbone.

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>>135237964

>Hanzo is further described a warrior whose motivation is "to restore his honor," and the first thing we learn about him is that he "strives to prove himself as a warrior without peer." In my mind, there is no individual warrior who seeks to prove his skill with a smattering of arrows nearly randomly placed on a battlefield. Simply put, Scatter Arrow just doesn't feel Hanzo-y

10/10

>>135204828

bados complain about scatter arrow. I've died to a random scatter arrow twice in 300 games. I don't get how people get so ass blasted over that ability

>>135237964
What would you replace it with?

>>135189764
There are times where having a Reinhardt is better then having a McCree. Everyone should be good at like, two of their favorite role, and then one hero from each other role.

If you're good with McCree's aim, then learn Zenyatta so you can also support. And Genji is another person with long range precision, which means your McCree aimer can now also be a better harasser for distracting the enemy team or infiltrating to take out entrenched defenses.


You need to be effective at more then one hero, or you're bad at this game.

>>135194583
Right now it's stacks against stacks. Almost never 6 vs. a bunch of solos. When I solo queue I mostly play solos, but when I pair up with my friend, everyone's in two's and three's, with maybe one solo that got jigsawed in.

This'll get even easier to balance with a larger playerbase.

>>135241862
>This'll get even easier to balance with a larger playerbase.

>It'll get better I promise... please pre-order

>>135242103
>Someone points out a basic fact
>I'll call them a shill!
Cool.

>>135241862
As someone who is actually in, I can confirm this guy is full of shit.

Not just his own shit, other people's shit as well.

>>135241862
Wrong. The matchmaking is purely first come first served, because blizzard refuses to put any real system in. So when a team learns they're against a full premade, they all leave, forcing another 6 into a game against that premade.

It's literally stacks vs anyone who hasn't learned to join a stack yet

>>135243269
>>135242690

No, because when I'm alone I'm usually against solos, and when I'm with my friend, it's always stacks.

>>135243361
Consider yourself lucky. The literal opposite happens to me and most others

>>135244437
I guess, but it was pretty apparent that other people were definitely queued together on my team when I was queuing with someone. And it wasn't about how well they played, it was about how clearly they favored playing alongside other party members.

>>135241862

I only play solo and I see 4-5 man stacks consistently, I frequently get matched up against streamer stacks and have to take a break so I can queue into something else. I fully believe that right now the matchmaking system is as >>135243269 says, first come first serve. You can't really make the excuse of too few people in the beta, the level/skill gaps in games is ridiculous and huge stacks vs full solo teams is not fun.

>>135246693
It's not first come first serve, but if someone drops out then yeah, it becomes that. On top of that, the game likes to keep people together for a few games based on the idea that they'll learn how to play with each other, which can make for balance wonkiness.

MMR is definitely not putting people of the same skill together, and that's kinda shit, but it definitely favors stacks with stacks.

And is there anything more fucking annoying then getting cued with a streamer and havingf someone else in the game fawn all over them? I don't even know who these faggot are.

>>135247186
There is no MMR or matchmaking system of any kind. It's completely first come first serve. Ever leave a game at the end just to get out back against the same team?

>>135247456
>There is no MMR or matchmaking system of any kind
How can Kaplan then talk about what the map balance is like at low MMR compared to high MMR?

>>135247456
I dunno, I tend to run across the same people, and my friend has a different group of people he usually sees, which makes me think there's something going on.

>whole team on point
>everyone gets killed
>goddamit we lost the matc-
>hear HEROES NEVER DIE
>win

based!

>>135247456
what does the guy they pay to do the matchmaking do at work then? jack off to anime?

>>135247860
Naw, Drainei futa cawk.

>Team is all single digits except for one level 30, and myself, newly minted level 100.
>Single digits include an attack tobjorn at level fucking 2. No tanks, no supports.
>Enemy team is about the same comp.
>D.Va the cart and ride it all the way to victory as enemy Pharah hovers in midair and enemy reaper fails to focus his shotguns.
Feels good man. Their level 80 shouldnt have gone Zenyatta, Zenyatta can't cover ha bad team.

>>135249075
>Next round, Lijiang tower, same team.
>Get stomped because enemy team actually sticks together, something these level 5's can't seem to figure out. Including attack Torbjorn.
Oh well.

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>>135247860
he's busy writing bad code

>>135249791
What's wrong with this one?

>click friends name
>join game
>puts me against him
>removes me from his game afterwards
>click his name again
>join game
>enemy team again

So does the Join Game button actually do something else?

>>135250089
D vas defense matrix blocks hooks except hooks are broken and in fact have never worked to begin with

>>135250450
>>135249791

You can see his arm start the throw before you put it up, I can only assume that's how it's supposed to work and if you want to block it you'd need it up prior to him doing the throw.

Both abilities are bullshit anyway.

>>135231958
To be fair, the game is giving them props for the performance vs a internet stranger opinion. It's not strange that they choose to believe the software over the flawed person.

>>135250450
They're not broken never where you just don't know how they work

Whether a hook hits or not is determent on the click
That's why it sometimes looks like it grabs you through walls and shit

Text is still muted. Test complete. You can unmute me now.

Speech still works fine. I guess this is what I get for being deliberately toxic to test the chat mute feature. It's a wonderful feature, honestly. I appreciate the fact that blizzard doesn't put up with trolling or other toxicity that might spill over from other games.

But what's the limit (if any) that is put on how long you are muted? Anyone else having/had this problem?

I have to say the silence threshold is so not ready for wide release. What constitutes toxicity, abusive chat, constructive criticism, passive aggressive recommendation, etc. I'm silenced and it hinders my team, but I deal with what I can. The ping system doesn't work for a game with this big of play area.

I was just testing it Blizzard, I was helping you guys, and it's getting to the point where I can't communicate with my team and it's hindering my ability to enjoy the game. You can unmute me now.

>queue into stacks and streamer groups
>alright let me just afk a few hours then try again
>queue up for a game just now
>get matched up against another 5 man streamer stack

In all honesty we didn't do too bad for being solo but it's still frustrating that I cannot escape this. I mean if Blizzard wants to give me 15 keys to hand out I can get all my friends in and stack harder than they are but it doesn't look like that will happen.

>>135250579
D'Va's feet can still be hit when matrix is up.

Also, going frame by frame, rope was clearly coming at D.Va before matrix was hit.

>>135250662
The medals are nice and all, but there need to be more ways to convey to players that the game is about proper application of force, and not just application of force period.

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>AARDVAARK BEYZO
what did he mean by this?

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>>135252093
>Also, going frame by frame, rope was clearly coming at D.Va before matrix was hit.

except defense matrix is supposed to block projectiles, not abilities.

if youre right then dva can never use her E reactively. if im right, hooks are broken

>>135254062
games a piece of shit drones gna drone doe

>>135254062

You also have to remember you can't see peoples pings so you have no idea if that guy is rolling with a smooth 14 ping or one in the 300s. People today don't understand the concept of ping and they just join whatever server/region they feel like.

>>135254973
>still defending this trash

holy shit anon

>>135254973
if only blizzard weren't retards scared of letting the players see numbers

it's ridiculous that i have to consult some 3rd party spreadsheet to know how much damage each ability does