/rlg/ - Roguelike General

first for if you have to pay money, it's not a roguelike.

There is no such thing as a free roguelike

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>>134974086
counterpoint: spelunky costs money but is a roguelike

>>134974241
spelunky is a roguelike platformer, it even says so in your article. You dun goofed, anon, you should probably delete your post and/or your life for bringing such great shame to your family.

>>134974241
>>134974367
also it sucks

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Daily reminder to take it easy.
Min maxing cata? For what purpose?

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is yuri a roguelike?

>>134975279

it's more of a roguelike than cdda is

>>134975451
CDDA is free
It's a real roguelike.

>>134975279
only if it features permadeath

>>134975641
cdda lets you create a new characer in the same world and loot all your shit off of the last guy's dead body

>>134975013
The free alpha version is a good platform game clearly made as a labor of live, but still not a roguelike. The paid version feels much more soulless and shitty and corporate.

>>134975794
nethack too

>>134975279
>permadeath
>turn-based
>grid-based
Apparently so.

>>134975641
It's not a roguelike for the Kickstarter backers, though, since they paid for it.

You know, I used to think this was one of the best generals in the board, but recently I've come to realize it's actually pretty awful.

I mean, most the threads eventually devolve into meta shitstorms halfway through. There's more discussions about what is or isn't a roguelike, whether Crawl is shit or not/when it became shit, if paid roguelikes are still roguelikes, memes etc etc. than there's actual on-topic posting.

Just say the phrase "not a roguelike" in reference to any popular game that's widely agreed to be a roguelike and you have a very high chance of succesfully derailing the thread for an hour or two.

We may not have many shitposters but we sure as fuck have the nastiest ones. They are largely not ironic and they legitimately believe they help preserve the general's quality while simultaneously shitting it up. The best example of this is ponyposter samefagging one of the aformentioned meta shitstorms into the world and then melting down by spamming pony porn all over the pĺace when someone mentioned Qud.

The ones that ARE ironic seem to never actually talk about roguelikes.

Then you have the straight autists like the ex dev shitposter who doesn't even play roguelikes and hates the genre to his own admission and just comes here to insult random people.

>>134976098
>Nethack
>a roguelike
Now you're just making shit up.

>>134976575
>Qud
It was when I decided to play Dredmor, but yeah. I find that the only way to can stir up discussion is to actually post pictures of what I'm playing. No matter what it is, as long as I post along with the thread and ask plenty of questions, other people start playing too. Its a magical thing.

>>134976806
Not for a long time.

>>134976938
*also I savescum

REEEEEEE PONIES
REEEEEEE

>>134976575
i both shitpost and talk about roguelikes, I don't know what you're talking about

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>>134977224
Exactly. You can shitpost AND be on topic.

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Remember kids, always wear your armor! I went to fight the shocker brute, but forgot to put my submachine gun back on. I had to resort to burning my backpack to kill it. I upgraded to a copper spear too, which meant I got zapped everytime I stabbed it. I really thought I was going to die here, but I do know the basics of CQC. Another 2 days of reading books for me.

i like caves of qud and bought it on steam

>>134977656
>not having a wooden weapon for shockers
Own fault

>>134977656
I think you don't get shocked if you hit it from a space away with reaching. Though this is more useful for normal shocker since the brutes are fast and have a lot of hp.

>>134977916
did you buy it or did you use your mom's credit card

working insulated gloves when

>>134978405
I used my debit card.

>>134978037
I know, anon. I normally lure them around a corner and blow them away with a full auto burst. That whole situation only happened because I was too excited about being able to use my armoured leather jacket. It worked great, but I still got my shit wrecked because I left home too fast. I even have 2 stone spears at the weapon pile that I was using before I checked out my old house and found my copper spear.

>>134978307
I was getting shocked with reach attacks. Its because I had a metal weapon.

>>134977916
I bought dredmor + dlcs, tome + dlcs and OWH. I still have to get the dlc for that though.

>>134977916
*rees weakly*

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>>134978934

>paying for roguliks

>>134979274
>paying for ruks

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>>134979274
>dark souls II
I died
also
>no URW

>>134979540
URW is free

>>134979540
also no ADOM

>>134979585
but it is on steam

How can Spelunky be the Dark Souls of roguelikes when Dark Souls is already a roguelike?

first time I've seen this happen and I ain't even mad

I found a recharging charm on the first floor :^)

>>134979725
http://store.steampowered.com/app/351700/

>>134979892
the algerian curse strikes again

>>134978454
When you table that engineer.

>>134979829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRfmSzk-nEA

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>>134979892
unfortunately not the first time I forgot pic :^(

Reminder that Elona is the best roguelike

>>134980213
rev up those horses

Spelunky is the Elona of Dark Soul's-likes

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>>134980285

>>134979829
Doing a Dark Souls or Demon's Souls ironman Challenge is really fun and I highly recommend it to everyone. For extra manliness, do it without leveling up, as a class that doesn't start with magic.

>>134980396
Saddle algerians

Caverns of Xaskasian has a "bug hunter" class, that gets +30 to hit against bugs and gets 2x xp and free potions for killing them.

>"Accidentally" burn down a house, church and some random building because there was smoker zombies inside
>Come back with a shovel to harvest the nails
>30+ nails per tile, suddenly eye balling all the other houses
That other anon wasn't kidding. I'm going to have so many caltrops.

>>134980965
caverns of Xaskasian has like
50 different classes

>>134981425
I'm just looking at character creation now. I posted that one because that class seemed particularly funny.

>>134981540
wait until you get to the pseudo bug hunter that can cook bugs
also
>races: brownie

>>134981368
Jesus, I have 3.3k nails and I'm not even done digging out the ruins. What can I even do with this many nails?

>>134982081
>What can I even do with this many nails?
nothing. Having 500 is usually more than enough.

>>134982081
Nail your dick to a table.

>>134982081
Building anything out of wood uses a ton of nails.

>>134982418
I know, this is insane.

>>134982686
I guess Outer Heaven is going to be wooden.

>>134982467
I only need 1 nail for that anon, and that is being generous.

>>134982081
Rebuild all the houses you burned down.

>>134982081
If you're using the more vehicles mod you can add nail rifle turrets that use, you guessed it, nails as ammo and pack a serious punch.

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>>134983159
>Burn down all the houses and rebuild them to be more efficient
>Or just copy terraform anon and write FUCK RIVET REMOVE FURRIES in wells
A city in my image.

>>134983275
That sounds really amusing. I might build a few of those to decorate the base once I start on it.

>>134983496
>fuck rivet he says
>he doesn't know that the armored leather jacket was made BY rivet
YOU WERE THE MONSTER ALL ALONG

>>134983496
>repeating crossbow
>not a pneumatic bolt thrower
>not even a tikhar
Work on that mechanics skill.

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>>134983496
rip them a new one, son.

>>134983808
>tikhar
never heard of it.

>>134983808
I don't have any mechanics books yet anon. Give me some time, I'm still looking for my local library branch.

>>134983662
Even a fuckup can do right every now and then. Its a good item that definitely has drawbacks if the enemy can pierce it.

>>134984221
>Its a good item that definitely has drawbacks if the enemy can pierce it
originally it had +10 the armor and -10 the encumbrance until coolthulu saw that lo, that was not right and calmly talked to the screaming vagina-bearer to nerf that fucking thing.
Once a fuckup, always a fuckup, anon.

>>134984367
Based Coolthulu. I just got vomited on by an acid zombie because of the thing, but its still worth.

>>134984131
>tikhar
I mean the pneumatic gun that shoots ball bearings. I can't remember it's name.
It was called a "tikhar" (or "tihar") in Metro 2033.

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7 fabrication, 3 mechanics. Time to get this crafting party started. I'll have some really cool stuff by spring. Oh and I got a shopping cart so when I do move, I can take an extra 200 volume worth of shit. Very nice.

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Oh hey, this is actually kinda fun. I killed 50 zombie hulks in with two swipes.

Is Conquest of Elysium a roguelike?

>>134977916
How is CoQ anyway? Is it a worthy buy or should I just download it?

Xaskazien trip report: the interface is shit. inventory interaction requires the mouse for some godawful reason

for some reason "pick this item up? yes/no" prompts only look for the Y key and not enter or something reasonable

random sound effects seem to play constantly

if you're in vision of a knight you'll just hear 'Ho there! Ho there! Ho there! Ho there!" over and over again.

>>134986940
download it to see if it's worthy, buy if you like it?

>>134987021
>if you're in vision of a knight you'll just hear 'Ho there! Ho there! Ho there! Ho there!" over and over again.

i'm so close to downloading it just to hear this

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are there any roguelikes where i can be elected president?

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huha

>>134987713
at least throw it in lava
also what dagger you got
looks sexy

>>134987793
+2 elec

>>134987945
niiiiice

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>find bug that crashes the game
>use it to get the best RNG results

>>134988140
if you're going to savescum anyways you should just play a notaroguelike like tome4

put all your endgame-tier artifacts in the dimensional vault and gear your new characters the fuck up, plus turn on infninite-lives mode

how do you even savescum dcss without the batchfile shit?

>>134988530
just turn wizmode on
i think you can choose not to die

>>134988530
copy the savefile from the save folder and then replace it later on if you die or something

>>134986940
It's an unfinished previously free game that they put tiles on and threw on Steam.

>>134988654
thats cheating though

>>134989241
thats the point

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>npc kills himself with fire like an idiot
>pull his burnt flamethrower out of the fire and try it out
I guess you need firefighter gear or something to use these effectively, I'm melting just being next to the flames.

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I random teleported directly on top of the rune

>>134989983
Yeah, you get a ton of damage from being anywhere near orange or red 4's. I got full body blisters for ||/ when I burned down that church. It was pretty bad.

>>134990080
Well, congratulations! You got yourself caught!

>>134990080
Oh man, it's the best. It happened to me in spider too once.

HELLMOO IS DOING A PLAYER WIPE TODAY

>>134990962
Not really a roguelike.

>>134990962
Cool. Now I have reason to finally start playing it.

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Hey /rlg/! Can I ask about fire behavior really quick? I'm implementing different tile types and so far I have:

>Tall grass
Blocks your vision, grows in fields, when trampled becomes flattened grass which has no effect.

>Water
Halves your field of vision. When under water you cannot see things on land, when on land you cannot see things under water. (You can see an object, but it is a "?" object and you can't examine it)

>Fire
Spreads between flammable tiles depending on how flammable a tile is. Burns for a semi-random amount of turns. Produces its own light source that you can use to see monsters or extend your throwing range if your FOV intersects with it. Destroys items and sets creatures and you on fire. Things on fire have a chance to spread fire around them as if they were a fire tile, and can be extinguished if they walk into water. Completely burned tiles turn to ash.

Is that fine for behavior of fire? How do your favorite roguelikes handle fire?

>>134991710
Fuck off with your Berlin bullshit. It's a roguelike whether you want it to be or not

>>134990962
>>134992084
No it's not

>>134992051
Have you played brogue? You should if not, it acts pretty much like your system.

>>134992051
Sounds fine, though you may want to think about making fire block FOV; ain't that easy to look through a column of flame.

You also need to be careful with the map generation; would suck to have a whole floor and its items burn down because every floor tile is grass, imo.

Do you plan on implementing fire magic? I haven't followed your RL development very closely.

>>134992084
>>134992353
yeah m8, you dont define whats a roguelike and what isnt

>>134993030
>FOV
LOS*

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>>134993001
I have played Brogue, but I'm wondering about other systems. If my game is just a more casual Brogue, what's the point?

>>134993030
I increased the grass generation for testing purposes -- usually the fields are much smaller and further between. Normal ground has a 3% chance to catch fire, flattened grass has a 20% chance, and tall grass has a 40% chance. Ash and water have a 0% chance.

I do plan on implementing consumables that will let you cause fires. I also plan on creating monster abilities that let them use fire attacks somehow.

Some of the artifact abilities I'm considering to put in the game (it's gear-driven, with 3 equipment slots that have randomly generated passive effects that you can upgrade with gold to unlock) are immunity to fire and items do not get destroyed by fire.

>>134992051
It's good enough, you aint making pyromaniacRL

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I guess Gozag is the way here.
These two rings are crazy good.

>that guy who called nail board "stupid"
Really?

>>134995636
I only like nail board traps. Feminine nails are gay.

>>134995053
buy the -5 dex one too for id porpoises

>>134996208
i thought i was the only one that did that

>>134989010
Still being developed and to be honest, quite decent - actual roguelike compared to most of the titles which simply slap permadeath and then jump on the bandwagon.

>>134992084
It's a MUD. Stop being retarded.

>>134996303
hell no
>not buying a 12 gold ammy of inacc and never wastin a remove curse scroll

>>134976575
You are being just as bad with this massive shitpost.

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>>134990962
Does hellmoo let me make deals and/or suck titties?

>>134997832
get out.

>>134974241
The one I played years ago was free, cmon son

>>134979274

>no Hieroglyphika

I mean come on, it's 2016!

>>135001343
>I mean come on, it's 2016!
I really, really don't like this meme.

>>135002052
well 2016 just underway and next year its gonna be 2017
filter it i guess?

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>>135002052

It's a shitty meme, I know.

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Is crypt of the necrodancer a good rougelike?

>>135003836
It's a great game, but not a good roguelike.

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How the fuck am i even alive, much less gotten a rune, is a true mistery
I also think i got to the mutation limit, i ate 12 chunks of mut meat and gotten nothing

>>134975219
Because I like playing as gods.
I enjoy breaking your game.

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Should i train Crossbows to actually have ranged options before going melee transmuting?

I have 10 Dodging, 10 Transmutations, 8 Fighting and 8 Unarmed Combat.

I also found the Haste spell.

Given these facts, what should my skill order be now?

>>134974159
Rogue doesn't cost one anything but nostalgia.

>>135004709
get haste online first and foremost. that should be priority number 1. after that, you probably won't even need the crossbow, but if you feel it's necessary, invest 6 or so skill after you get haste going.

>>135004880
I am still an octopode though, and i have trouble surviving. Shiuld i really invest in Charms only till i get a reliable haste going?
I also worship Gozag, even if a buff doesn't take too much hunger (it's just a cast per fight after all), i still have no spellcasting and hunger adds up early on.

Does PosChengband 4.0.1 bring anything new to the table?

Requesting the "I didn't do it for recognition" Forgotten Crawler picture

>>134961814
You can adjust the difficulty on the fly and it'll take effect in new spawns and newly generated chunks. So you can give yourself a town and a week or two to get your feet under you as higher monster evolution starts ramping up then start increasing the spawn rates every other season or something.

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Alright fagets, i already have a wand of HW and i'm not wasting this in hopes of haste, what do i get?

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>>135006086

>>135007402
armor.

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>>135007774
Why do i listen to you guys

>>134980213
Inferno mode mutant rand(mix-max calsses) of rand(god) is bretty gud. The slots make it more dynamic and playing to what you find and roll can be interesting. If you focus on combat and the quests it's not that long either.

>>134981368
>>134982081
Yeah, it's house building 101 cause you need so many fricken nails and forging them is like an hour for 100.

By the way, examine with a shovel to clear all the rubble then hit /, F nail, hit enter to filter on nail, hit A to select all adjacent, set the destination pane to your inventory with I then use ',' to move all nails in the surrounding 9 tiles to your inventory. It makes hoovering them up much less arthritic.

Land mines, booby traps, and grenades with gasoline are a popular use. Once you find a nail gun, a nail gun and a nail rifle are cheap training. Remember to take focus books that day so you keep making progress. Like the others said, a carpet of caltrops makes life easy.

>>134989983
Nah, you shoot ahead and try to make a path of 9-12ish thick fire to kill the zombie while it meander through. It's essentially a portable house you can burn down over and over anywhere

>>134992051
Yup. Gud job m8. Maybe have some smoke blocking LoS if it starts getting big

>>135004550
You get higher chances of no change and a higher chance of removing a mut them ore you have

>Start tearing apart cars after finding a flatbed truck
>Install a billion car batteries and alternators into truck, its going to be a light so bright that I can read forever
>Replace my jerrycan with 2 metal tanks
>drink water from the tanks and immediately get food poisoning from the rain water
God damn it. This was never an issue before, what gives? I've been drinking rain water for literally 2 seasons. I don't even remember the last time I purified water.

>>135007628
Is there a wallpaper-sized version of this?

>>135007957
Sometimes you get a +0 hat, sometimes you get the dragon mask
Sometimes you get HW, sometimes you get random effects
Sometimes you get a rod, sometime it gives you a staff of energy despite 24 evo and 0 magic skills
Sometimes you get a staff of death despite 26 conj, 24 fire, and 0 necro, sometimes you get dat fukken staff of fire.
Sometimes you get a manual, sometimes you get a book despite 0 magic skill
Sometimes you get a sweet randart +14 double sword (elec, rF++, noisy, +10 dex) sometimes you get chilly death.
Sometimes you get the ring of the shaolin, sometimes you get your 5th ring of stealth
Sometimes you get a box of beasts, sometimes you get a plain deck of war.
Ammunition always gives you anything but steel and gold is <500

Don't get worked up

>>135008954

I doubt it. I was lucky to find that pic using google...

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I have to stop playing transmuters of cheibriados, it's just too easy, anything that can cast statue form can win

>>135009853
I was feeling the same way with SpEn until I hit Shoals.

Sweet Jesus those Harpies. I'm glad I found petrify.

>>134986548
>turnbased
>tilebased
>permadeath
>success depends on how well you manage your resources
Sure, why not?

>>135009853
>more than 70k turns
are you even swinging bread you filthy casual

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Actually surprised i got so far, i could've done it if i didn't fuck up twice
>Forgot that apocalipse can't be spammed
>Had to read tele with blurry vision
All in all pretty fun, Ru is both a bitch and stupidly powerful at the same time. Seems like the snake pits are my weakness, i had to kill my own ghost here

>>135007957
kek

>>135010763
What did you give up?
ANy protips?

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nigga these new merfolk girls are kawaii as fuck

>>135011467
uh no? retart

>>135010989
Look at >>135004550, the ones in light red are the sacrifices
I'd say that cowardice isn't that bad as long as you know how to bait enemies and abuse LoS, but if you get surrounded it's REALLY bad
Sacrificing both dodging and armour is a very stupid idea unless you're a troll, the huge size and natural AC+robust+regen make up for it when you start getting Ru's redirects and stuns
Bad apt is really fucking annoying on a race with low apts, having everything negative has it take a lot longer to skill up shit

As for the abilities, the healing one is good in a pinch if you haven't gotten the other two yet. About a quarter/two fifths of your health and mana is more than a HW pot would give on a big race.
The jump is...weird. The damage is rarely worth it, you should use it for running away or for killing fodder when approaching. Never used it much
Apocalipse is completely broken. About twice the damage of a good Slouch, regardless of enemy speed, and it's unavoidable. Use it once and you've cleared Orc if your LoS is good. The draining is basically nothing, it's the same as getting hit by a wight twice

Mind you, this is just what i learned from this run, in no way i would consider myself even decent at the game

>>135011853
the ass was fat tho

>>135011467
Yeah man. They're cute as hell.

>>135011853
Not retart. Just tart.

stay cool guys
dont be this guy
http://youtu.be/IHl7FxTUW9A

where do I find the config files to edit when I'm playing crawl online

I wanna change the keybindings or something I keep pressing 5 on the numpad to wait and I want it to just wait one turn instead of a million

>>135014308
oh wait looks like I can just do it from in game

still how do I find that shit I wanna stop picking up chunks too

>>135014551
You can just configure the autolooter if you want to stop grabbing chunks. I think its \.

how come hexes and charms are different schools isn't that bloat

>>135015240
Charms are being removed, don't worry.

>>135015240
Getting buffs and debuffs for only one school was really strong so they split it. Think you're invisible or hasted confusion stabbing 3/4 of the dungeon in the dick while buffed out the ass.

>>135014551
chunks are good though?

you eat them for food

>Reading at night to pass time until my @ is tired
>Look away for a minute
>When I look again, my @ is dead tired, dehydrated and very hungry
>He read that shitty book for over 24 hours
I really figured there would be something that'd stop him before it went that far.

>>135015569
Plus you can wield them to cast Sublimation of Blood

>>135015663
Nope!

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>>135015663
Such is life as a binge reader.

>>135015806
or simulacrum

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>Head into town to find some cargo carriers for a cargo pullcart with my last 150 duct tape
>First marking there's no truck with cargo carriers at all
>Second, it actually just needs some controls to work though it's a little damaged
>Head to a third mark
>It also just needs controls but this one is almost pristine barring a somewhat faulty alternator
>Scavenge up a good quality controls from a hatchback I will never ever ever drive
>Drive it home
>Head back and decide to cannibalize the more damaged pickup for a casrgo carrier
>mfw realize I just used my last duct tape on the other truck and now I can't make a cargo carrier shopping cart

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>>135016387
>binge reader

how does this even happen?

>>134997832
you can do anything in hellmoo as long as it's terrible

Just got done getting splatted as a Spriggan Enchanter of Gozag.

What should I do next?

>>135022958
MiAr of Nemelex or 2pak. swap to M&F or hell just anything else soon as you can.

I like how in cata you hit summer just after you've cleared a large chunk of town and game is getting scarce. Gives you a whole free month to just fuck around and scavenge or work on the house

>>135022958
Any Fighter or Transmuter of Chei

>>135022958
MuCK

>>134976575
>I used to think this was one of the best generals in the board, but recently I've come to realize it's actually pretty awful.
It's both. Just because it's awful and shitpostful doesn't stop other general being 100x worse.

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are there any roguelikes that let me torture things besides myself?

>>135030395
probably dorf fort if you modded in various orifices

>learned six levels of first aid from one NPC
Should have thought to give them spears a long time ago. It really helps to minimize their suicidal charges.

>>135030395
playing dredmor lets you torture /rlg/, as long as you post lots of screenshots

rip ponyposter, his dredmore autism and pictures of ponies shitting into each other's asses were too innocent for this world

>>135031672
i have a picture of the lions from the lion king shitting into another lion in various orifices if that is good enough? want it?

>>135032260
Post it if you aren't a pussy coward faggot.

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>>135032291
i actually didnt save it
i thought i did. trying to find it now
it was pretty weird

>>135032260
recreate it in pixel art by terraforming the plane of earth

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>4 sleeping needles
>4 other kind of needles
>a +2 Lajatang of Venom (in Lair)

Thanks, Uncle Waru.

>>134977916
>selling unfinished games

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1457574255652.webm

>>135035948
Stock market's been doing for decades. Ain't no brakes on the train

Why does Necalli exist? Is there a more boring character in the game?

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Love when a horde shows up and you have a good choke like this to unload your trunk into.

>>135038265
>Necalli (ネカリ Nekari?, "Battle" [8]) is a character in the Street Fighter series who first appeared in Street Fighter V.

not to shitpost or anything, but i'm pretty sure street fighter is NOT a roguelike

>>135038520
wrong

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>>135038520
I, uh
hm

>>135038702
Ascend poschengband or an ancient foul arlgeean curse shall blacken your days to their end

>>135039242
Don't do this to me.

>>135039684
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZAHk0g-Nfk
Snek plis....

ascend an android rune knight with the no-selling birth option

>>135040003
I was bout to chime in that he should do that combo since he could probably win in 5 hours if the rng gets him a staff of summoning for quick 555 grinding

>>135031672
Foul sorcery is hot AF

>>135040003
They removed the no-selling option in poscheng 4.0.1
Don't ask me why

>>135041438
probably because it's kind of pointless in PCB.

marvinpa's fork changes it to work similar to the vanilla no-selling option which is a big improvement

So have DDFi of gozag cleared Orc in lair 7 right now.

I have 5 enchant weapon scrolls, using a +2 battleaxe of chopping. Gozag has been a cocksucker even though I called 4 merchant shops none gave me anything good for axes.

Should I just use my scrolls or keep being patient?

>>135041734
Also fixes ruin knights.

>>135042658
depends
if you're having trouble surviving right now always use your enchant scrolls
if you're tabbing everything down without problems just save them

>>135042784
having trouble do you think I should use them all or just 2-3 ?

>>135042658
+9 Battleaxe of Chopping is super legit, especially if you want to go all in on shields for a large shield. You can even rebrand it, and the chances of you finding something better are pretty slim. Think of it like this, what would be better than having your +9 axe RIGHT now? Even if you only have a buckler, it'd have to be something completely absurd.

>>135042864
fuck it use em all
you can't use them if you're dead
but you can always buy more weapon/scroll shops in the future if you need to

>>135042950
Broad axe is the top axes 10h and battleaxe is a 2-h isn't it?

Is this a bug or something but sometimes when I use the mouse in DCSS it does a double click. Only happens in DCSS other vidya other mouse usage doesn't double click.

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Playing a smithy Naugrim (of Nogrod) for the first time in Sil. What are the two best freebie Smithing abilities to take, and what are the 3 best things to make at the 100' forge? Here's what I can afford:

>Weaponsmith
An early mattock could be fun, and I haven't found an axe yet. But should I go battle axe or great axe? (No shield yet.)

>Armoursmith
I could just use up the forge to kit myself out with basic protective gear and save the other free ability for a deeper forge, once I see the need for a particular resistance that random drops aren't giving me.

>Jeweller
3 empty jewelry slots at 100', three minor stat boosts for very little investment. Or I could make a Horn of Terror or Warning. Those can be fun. Not like I'm using my Voice for anything else right now.

>>135043152
>>135042950
Oh shit, I mixed them up. If it was a broadaxe, I'd do it. But as it stands, I'd probably abstain until you found either an exec axe or a broad axe. Forgive me anon, I'm a little tipsy. I hope you didn't invest. A +9 Battleaxe of chopping wouldn't be the worst, but its a 2H demon sword. Certainly not the best.

>>135043462
really though what the fuck is going on this picture

>>135038520
Nah, Necalli is a caveman derived from Arabic name Necati
Hence his skin colour

>>135043601
From what I can tell, Morgoth is about to slam jam Fingolfin. But this is the moment of Fingolfin's fury, and he dodges early behind Morgoth so that Ringil might dance and hew Morgoth's heel. Really though, who knows. The poses are really exaggerated.

>>135043462
No idea but search around on the forums. There's some stuff for smithing even if it's a bit outdated. You can make a chart of what item can get what ench and what artifact property. It helps when you know how much those +1,2,3 forge gloves are, the +1 grace circlet, the +1 grace amulet and light, the +3 smithing war hammer and +3 smithing war hammer of accompaniment, artifacts with masterpiece and jeweler, common resists with both evasion, protection and melee boosts like a dwarf mask.

>>135043462
Horn of thunder is loud as balls but it stuns your enemies.

>>135043601
I read the Silmarillion recently, and there was a part where one of the Noldor just walked right up to the gates of Angband and called out Morgoth to '1v1 him, faggot.' (I can't remember the elf's name though, and I'm away from my bookshelf at the moment.) Morgoth was scared, but went out there anyway because he was more scared of looking like a bitch in front of the Balrogs and his lieutenant, Sauron.

>>135008954
try using waifu2x or whatever it was called multiple times cutting out text first and adding it later and please post results

I refuse to play dcss unless I can play as a girl with a tile that resembles a girl
and I know it's possible to make one

>>135044260
So do it, you degenerate.

>>134987368
Liberal Crime Squad lets you assassinate the president.
It's not a roguelike, though, it's an Oubliettelike.

>>135044260
Play with display monster tiles so it replaces your player tile with the race you're playing as. Then play as a merfolk in a new version.

>>135046076
oh right, you can do that, thanks for reminding me
>>135044325
faggot nigger kike

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>>135046076
so I changed it to siren and holy shit cool results
what is this >>135011467 one called tho

>>135046545
Just merfolk.

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>>135046721
thanks
so merfolks are now grills by default? holy shit a lot has changed since I switched to sil, IA, brogue and excursion

>>135046847
I guess, which is weird since the devs removed/changed some merfolk variants to be more gender neutral.

>>135043462
You can go weaponsmith+enchantment to kit a greatspear+longbow of gondolin and glaive (defender).

Tons of options with armoursmith. Artistry for doublefine helm/round shield/leather. Enchantment for gloves of the forge <+2> and a cloak of protection and shield of deflection or boots of running. This branches very well into grabbing jewelry and making 2x Accuracy rings at your next forge.

Jewelry only gets good at 13 points imo, which allows crafting of the aforementioned +2 accuracy rings, or +2 evasion rings. A great thing to craft early is a +0 amulet of the blessed realm. Other breakpoints for jewelry are 15(+1 stat amulets) 16(feanorian lamp of brightness) and 18(+1 stat rings).

I think I got that right. I played about 50 Naugrim Nogrod and they were all suffering. Enjoy!

How do I harvest maple trees? Is it a winter harvest?

damn, playing trunk without using spoilers after missing on so many changes is FUN! especially since I left my character at depths:3 so shit is scary now

BUGS THAT KILL

>>135047436
No idea. I tried examining the tree, I've tried applying a water faucet, I've tried changing the time to winter or autumn, nothing.
Then I've tried looking in the forums but found nothing.

I think they're just decorative now.

>>135047971
Muh cookies...

>>135047526
>:3
Fuck off.

>>135048056
>>135048063
>:3c

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>>135048117
ok let's go back to roguelikes picrel lmfao you're a huge fag

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>>135048272
>you're a huge fag
>he says while posting a mainly vore/absorption artist
I'll keep my furry agenda clean of shittu-tasteu, thank you.

>Zot:1
>still not a single executioner axe in the entire fucking dungeon
I guess I'm stuck with a +1 buckler of reflection and an +11 war axe "Amefiut" {holy +Inv rElec -MR +9MP}
>>135048505
I only care about futanari and traps and modeseven happens to draw them the way I like them, voluptous with fat cocks bag balls

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>>135048638
I misjudged you, friend.
also
>axes

>>135030395
you can do some pretty rad stuff in DF. I remember having an argument with one of my squadmates, the fucker tried to stab me to death. The things I did to him shall never be spoken of.

>Find two hoe's in a hardware shop
>Autumn coming to town
>Load all my shit in the pickup
>Fuck off to the woods to set up a camp
>Find an evac shelter on the other side of the forest
>Move in
>Autumn day 7, almost 175 buckwheat planted, 30 wild herb, 75 garlic for broth, over 100 assorted mushrooms and morels
>Almost a year of acorns squirreled away
>Come summer I'll have enough seeds to setup a year's supply of permafood wherever strike camp to loot a new town for however long it takes without needing to take breaks
Well that went better than expected

>>135049451
>Find two hoes in a hardware shop
did you tap them maple trees bro

>>135049547
Still can't figure it out.

>>135049829
gotta ease it in bro
go to town with them hoes, raid a liquor shop

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thanks RNG
im going to zot with no executioner to be found anyfucking where axe and now this

>>135051519
>Arga
>complaining about no Exec axe
Typical Minotaur scum.

>>135051519
>tfw always get dwhips/tridents/blades from hell knights and balrug/spear demon guy

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>>135051714
oh my god I actually got a scroll of acquirement
I think I need a shitload of resists, what do I wish upon? here are my stats

also I do have wand of healing already and a million potions

Now that I think about it, aren't GSC/Great maces the only common endgame weapon? I mean yeah you're pretty likely to get the rest. Then again the gmace has the lowest damage of them

>>135051865
oh lord I got another one

>>135051865
You can gamble on the chance for an ego hat/gloves, Shield/LShield of resist or reflection or a not shit artifact. You can gamble on a haste wand. Rod probably wont do dick for you at this point.

Don't worry too much about zot. Play conservatively then blow your speed, might and resist potions on the OOF's and shit and you'll coast by fine

>>135052108
Oh and if you have all the jewelry types ID'd you can gamble on that but it's a long shot if there ever was one

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>>135052108
>>135052164
I chose armor TWICE because I have haste too
check out this fucking results

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>>135052270
wait what? is it because 4 INT or what?

>>135052356
You picked up the zerkitis malmut at some point
Hit I think ?: that shows your notes

>>135052356
oh shitttt no I got a mutation but why?
I only got dopey in slime

do any draconians mutate? because I literally tabbed through them even with moths of wrath around easily

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>>135052398
wait, did I mutated because of contamination from taking of the first gloves? I should just use a fucking ID scrolls, I have like 20

>>135052571
should I use a single cure mut potion? I heared that shit can get real with being mutated after picking up the orb

>>135052665
Eh, up to you if you like your muts then occasionally having to fight while slowed or are worried about the blackout chance

>>135052571
wow, you're fucking dumb.

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>>135053848
and you're a fucking faggot, get fucked, because I'm doing this, this will be my first ascension

>>135053921
listen przechwhatever if you can't be assed to look at a pair of gloves that clearly say *contam* in the first line and keep taking them on and off, you're fucking dumb.

>>135053965
I'm kind of waiting for the devs to halve the drop rate of scrolls. Their Idbait properties don't matter when you have a big pile of id

>>135053965
oh sorry for not being an elite professional such as yourself and not caring about the game as if my life depended on it, lmao

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>>135054069
>don't call it a grave
>this is the future you chose
filthy minotaurs.

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I DONT KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT BUT HERE I GO

>>135054124
>responding to pollacks
This is the future you chose.

>>135054794
>/pol/
>/x/
>/a/

Nothing good will come of this.

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>>135054794

>>135054889
>not mentioning trap hentai, my facebook and reddit

btw zot:3 already

>>135055020
>not mentioning trap hentai
I've got nothing against that.
>reddit and facebook
I already knew that.

>>135054794
>karachuj
>ribbit
abyś się wywrócił

>>135055020
>:3
Fuck off.

>>135055179
You do know that's the floor notation right?

>>135055160
i co cie boli ze odwiedzam rozne czany i miejsca w internecie spierdolino

D:15

>>135055279
Of course he does.

>>135055318
>spierdolino
that's such a funny word
spierdolino
spierdolin
spierdolin
does wahtever a spierdolin can

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I FUCKING DID IT HOLY SHITTT

>>135055831
Don't forget to make a tweet about it and post it on facebook!

>>135055831
You're a minotaur with Arga. It'd be a miracle if you didn't.

>>135055490
loser/neet/autist

>>135055918
already shared it in my fb chat group where me and my three best buddies laugh at memes share vidya stuff :^)

>>135055968
spierdolino

>>135056001
>inb4 "spierdolina" becomes a meme outside of polish chans

>>135055279
oh my fucking god
of course he does you dense motherfucker

>>135056236
So he's just intentionally being a cancerous twat....?

>>135055490
I want you to know that I apreciate your presence in this general

>>135056291
>cancerous
zamknij mordę.

>>135056291
Yes it's like Awoo.

>>135056291
yes
>>135056391
and countless others

>>135056362
you seem to be confusing me with some pole, calm down

>page 9
fucking sundays
nothing but DEAD occasionally broken with someone attempting a win or a dev, all swimming in a sea of shitposting

Is a weapon of confusion any good in Brogue?

If not I'll just toss it in lava.

I just started playing Brogue, why is diagonal movement so awkward compared to other roguelikes?

>>134986940
I know this is a little late but I'm the guy you responded to. I know people don't like buying roguelikes here but that's really the main gripe against the game. Other than that it's a solid game and it's playable until you get to some of the later-game stuff that isn't finished yet. The devs are decent and they update it every Friday (literally every Friday since I bought it with no breaks).

As for the game itself it's a decent roguelike. It has a satisfying amount of trade items and usable items and I really like the setting. It also employs one of my favorite tricks for talking about lore - it avoids it completely. I always like books and things that just throw you into a world without explaining anything at all and forcing you to pick up on things as you go. CoQ does this very well, I think. There actually is a lot of backstory to the game and it's decently well-written, but you have to go digging for it. I enjoyed it immensely just for that, frankly, and I think it's worth the ten dollars.

In terms of the combat it's fairly simple and easy to understand and play. There's nothing wonky or odd about it, and balance is in general pretty good, although some of the mutations could be a little more powerful.

Now, my other roguelike regret, cogmind, was definitely not worth thirty dollars, but that's a different story.

>>135058340
Because you're supposed to be clicking on where you want to go rather than using the keypad.

>>135058651
>giving money literally goons
>paying for a roguelike

>>135059089
who cares lol

>>135058724
So everyone plays it with a mouse?

That's odd.

>goons
awaken, my child.

>>135058340
It was awkward to to me when I started playing.

You'll most likely get used to it after a while. I did.

>>135058724
>supposed to
If they were then the game wouldn't have numberpad/keyboard support.

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I always die on <10 levels, even on troll berserker.
What am I doing wrong?

>>135058340
You mean doorways?
I have no idea. I don't really dislike it tho.
>>135058724
But that's not true.

>>135060234
>>135059748
>>135059268
ez (^:

>>135060189
when you get into a tough spot just stop and think, look what you have in your inventory etc

if there's something you have very little chance of beating like a powerful ghost or an early hydra when you have an edged weapon just run away using stairs and then ignore it

>>135046545
what a fuckin whore

>>135046847
no by default all dcss player chars are male
the only female you encounter are ones you have to kill
its pretty misogynist actually
>>135048024
kill youreself

>>135060189
Are you trying to kill all the monsters or something? don't do that. just walk away.

>>135052356
>not getting at least 10 int
retart

>>135060771
Naga's player tiles looked female to me

>>135060771
woah there friend, my player character identifies as female regardless of whether she has a penis.

>>135054794
>Yuunagi no Senryokugai Butai
how the fuck do you even jerk off to that shit
look at some good trap porn at least

>>135061858
no
he doesnt

>>135057845
Nothin exceptionally interesting happening for me to share in brogue and the runs last a couple hours as do mosto f the games we play so is it really surprising?

>>135058026
It's exceptional for rapier stabs in a hall or other small place. You'll also get the occasional lava kill with it as well as the disabling effect letting you trigger caustic traps without needing obstruction to hotbox him

>>135058340
Nethack with door frames has it too. Couldn't stand rogue long enough to see if it did.

>>135062373
Yeah she does. She's a beautiful girl with a beautiful penis.

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>>135063376

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>Oh boy time for the flag ship!
>Spawn in bottom left corner
>Repair on the very top right side of the map
>Flag ship is moving towards the only other repair point
>mfw

Why is FTL so unfair.

>>135055831
Grats.
Your winrate is probably higher than mine now, depending on how many losses you've had.

I'm new and playing monk, should I take dithmenos as my god?

>>135055831
>considering anything less than 100 runes a win

stay pleb

>>135064386
Are you really baiting this already shitpost filled thread. Do you have no dignity.

>>135064386
Cause you never got the amulet of yendor in rogue. Duh.

>>135064578
Take Okawaru, trog, makhleb

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DEEEEEEEEEEVSSSS

How to play Yugioh god in DCSS I just can't get enough cards and then I get squashed by an ogre or something worse if I go further down.

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Well, this is new.

>>135066250
like, did you abandon beogh or something

I know it's not really a rogue-like, but anyone played Ziggurat?
>>135065447
It's always entertaining to watch reactions to new changes in DCSS.

>>135065812
Training Evocations helps you do more than just sling cards. Make liberal use of any wands you find too.

Don't neglect to train your fundamental skills though. Train offense before defense; killing shit faster is the surest way to stay alive. If you're a melee or ranged-weapon dude, train your weapon skill first to get that attack delay down. If you rely on spells to do most of your killing, train the relevant schools until you get your bread-and-butter spells down to <5% failure rate.

And if you see an extremely dangerous enemy, just fucking run. That's what the decks of escape are for.

>>135066352
Nope.
I guess the Chosen One of Beogh is whoever can beat up all the other priests?

>>135067038
Yes. You get a similar message whenever YOU swat down an opposing orc priest:
>Beogh appreciates your killing of a heretic priest.
Whichever priest died was obviously weak in the faith. :^)

>>135064554
it is because I have like 3 accounts on each server and this one I created after watching dicks MuMo and being very inspired by him. I've been playing this shitty game for about 3 years now, on and off, and this was actually the first time I decided to go with minotaur.

>>135068317
oh man you're BAD.

>>135068503
because I played only humans/demigods assassins/gladiators/mages?
no, i don't think so

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>>135070738
>because I played only humans/demigods assassins/gladiators/mages?
yes, since you couldn't win playing for years with already easy races until you finally gave up and turned to turbo-otab mode.
>>>/reddit/

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>>135060189

>>135070882
This edit is great except for Xom's name

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>>135070882

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I'm actually pretty impressed this monkey is still alive, though it's mostly due to a staff of shielding

he thought it was a good idea to punch this ogre in it's sleep but I fixed things :^)

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>>135071052
The original if you want it

>>135071340
thank you friend. My paint-fu skills aren't good enough to extract that minotaur from the christmas pic.

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>>135070875
I have less than 100 games played on all accounts combined and only after watching dicks I actually started playing carefully
I had one run with MuMo, died, decided to make a minotaur and fucking win and I made it, so shut your whore mouth

a single game takes a few months for me, because this game is fucking shit, pic rel

>>135073616
one rune*
decided I had enough with roleplaying as human self or an edgy demigod and chose a minotaur everyone makes fun of

now excuse me, Dimension W was fun and now I'm going to buy another 0.5L and watch Grimgar for some edginess, shit and feels, you double nigger

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>>135073750
spot the retard

>>135070738
>>135070875
desu demigod is actually one of the harder races and the lack of any god choice or the safety nets they provide makes it a challenge race in extended

the only one I ever 15 runed was a javelin hunter, which just might be the easiest background in the game if you luck out and find a blowgun and needles early on