/kfg/ - Killing Floor General

Well, the community market now has images of the upcoming USB keys.

http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/232090/Predator%20USB%20Key
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/232090/Street%20Punks%20USB%20Key
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/232090/Tactical%20Horzine%20USB%20Key
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/232090/Emergency%20Issue%20USB%20Key

Is it just me or is the design for these keys WAY uglier than the previous batch?
I mean they even put IJC's fucking name on one of them.

For healslut!

>>134950730
Predator one doesn't look so bad, I agree the others are fucking atrocious though.

Field Medic a best.

I like dark maps.

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>>134950771

>>134950839

Even the Predator one doesn't match with the actual theme of the skins it has.
The Predator skins were like a green tiger stripe that fades out while the USB key makes it look like the skins are a generic green camouflage with some kind of net over them.

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>>134950730
Does this mean the keys are almost ready to be sold on the store or are they out now? I wonder what other reskinned outfit goodies they'll jew on the store page too

>>134951010

It probably means the update will be out soon.
They already had the USB keys up on the market a while back without an image, but now they've added images and even shown what new items were accepted in the workshop.

>I wonder what other reskinned outfit goodies they'll jew on the store page too
Probably a new supply crate with cosmetics.

So, what's your opinion on VS mode, guys?

>>134952162

It might breathe some life into the game at least for a while.

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>>134952162
>yfw you spam nothing but sirens at players

I LIKE shootin zem!

>>134952672
Hello cute anime girl

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Get ready for it to finally happen

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>>134953371

>>134953415
St-stuff what?

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>>134953553
One in your PIPE.

>>134954147
I want demo to stuff one in my pipe

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Good:
>They're working on Sharpshooter bit by bit
>We'll have LaR and Crossbow as offperk'd weapons
>With simply given math and numbers FP speedkill combo seems possible and can be even fun to play around and finish FP after a weapon shove and headshot
>If faster weapon swaps are possible then hopefully Demolition wouldn't feel as shit as before.

Ugly:
>We won't have Sharp until next content patch because they're working on something else
>Instead of working at Sharpshooter perk, they'll focus attention on that small gameplay mod then give it as an excuse for not working on Sharpshooter
>Still Demolitionist have no faster weapon swap or reload bonus on its abilities and they plan to nerf Demolition

BAD:
>Some sod made a gameplay mod with very limited resources and now TWI trying to hog it even it's not even slightly balanced
>Claiming that ZED vs mod is widely requested even tho' most of the player base have no idea what they're talking about.
>Now they're trying to get their hands on community made content and maps whilst giving out as little as possible.
>They have no idea how boss battle plays and take only statistics as a serious source.

>>134955650
You forgot another good, my man
>big zeds no longer permarage if they're one of the last few alive

>>134955650
>only statistics as a serious source.
I just don't understand how they don't realise how fucked it actually is. Do they genuinely NEVER playtest anything? I don't have game development team experience but even when creating a map I'm hopping in all the time just to see how things play, even when the map is still only the basic layout and no spawns.

>>134955940
Bad still outdo the good.

>>134956716
I guess it does, but it still a prominently good change that shouldn't be looked over, no more bullshit of fleshpounds giving you literally no breathing space.

>>134955650
They spent time putting a system together (workshop) that makes tons of custom community content more accessible. How is this a bad thing?

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tfw game wont stop crashing

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So this new tab only lists maps and mods

I was expecting some kind of workshop revolution. Does this mean model and sound replacements are not possible or is this what a "mod" consists of?

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>still no mod to change Ana's shitty hair

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>>134955425
I'll work your pipe, if you know what i mean.

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>>134960756
Steam ID?

>>134962035
uhhh....

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>>134962596
You actual cocktease, demo-anon

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>>134962886
I don't want to reveal my id, as it may raise suspicion for some guys here

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Threadly reminder
-demo will be nerfed because the perk topped the damage charts.
-demo is the only fighter perk with no reload/weapon switch speed perk/passive despite being the perk needing the most extensive combos to do its supposed job and having to reload after every shot

>>134963458
>the perk topped the damage charts.
source?

>>134963608
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1474825&postcount=9

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>>134963413
Well fuck, now how can I handle the pipe?

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>play around with reflectiveness settings and wear masks for weapon skins
>found a way to make the skin look very different under different light sources plus stand out far more in zed time

I'm surprised nobody else has tried this before.

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>>134966032
We can think of something later for working your pipe, stay tuned

>>134959647
Texture mods aren't working, looks like it won't be fixed until TWI comes back
No music or sounds possible through the official channels yet

>>134966365
That's the point of the D and S layers, and the N map, right?
Was the red on the D map?

>>134967651

That's implying I'm allowed to change those at all for workshop items.
Believe me, this skin would be far prettier if I could use all different maps, but sadly I'm restricted to using paint masks as a way of faking an S map.

>>134967874
You can change all of them, D, M, N, ans S, they'll still work with multiplayer. They also seem compatible with workshop- the files are accepted for brewing and upload, and work through the published folder- but that's still kind of hard to tell.

>>134968034

I meant the voteshop.
And while I could make it multiplayer compatible as a mod, I have no idea how to do that.

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>>134966990
>stay tuned
I can't wait three months!

>>134968203
from what I can tell, you can package a script with your file that enables the game to load SKIN_TEX over the base model without breaking anything. that's not my area of expertise, though.

I just hex edit the base texture for reasons though

>>134963458
It is fun when even players think that.

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=116727
>Aside from Berserker, the best DPS class in HoE is Demolitions in a Zerk-wall setting

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>>134968768
>All of our successful HoE achievements used the zerk-walling method.

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>>134968768
I don't blame him for not knowing, but he doesn't realize that support is by far the best dps for either boss. Support is awful during the waves but are very good for the bosses. You also only need 1 medic if your team is good for bosses. Otherwise he's pretty much right about everything.

Remove Nuke and make Demo fun to play.

>>134968768

>a class specifically designed for spike damage
>that has to reload after every shot
>which is inherently weak
>"DPS"

Fuck me. If you want to classify anything as "DPS" it has to be sustainable. Firebug, Berserker, Support with AA-12, and even Commando have far better DPS than demo.
And among those only zerk is truly sustainable since it doesn't require any ammo.

>>134968768
>The Support class is detrimental to the entire group; it crashes the economy for almost no return
>organised team of 6 people
>1 support
>you get DBS after first wave and your whole team will refill it along their weapons
>in some cases they will also refill your default shotty
And these retards are pretending to be objective. I agree that support in pubs is terrible because if you will give them your gun they'll most likely sell it. And the damage output is way too low compared to gunslinger. But fuck that, gunslinger is actually the most overpowered piece of shit in the game right now.

And also
>your shotguns deal 50% less damage after 4 meters

>>134969215
>Remove Nuke
pls no. I want multishot explosive weapon to proc more nukes

>>134969386
>>your shotguns deal 50% less damage after 4 meters

If you teabag a knockdowned scrake with the DBS, do you actually hurt him?

>>134968449

Come to think of it, why the fuck isn't there some kind of submission guidelines so we know what is and isn't allowed?
All we can go off is the assumption that the "do_not_change" layer is in fact off limits.

>>134969724
You make him cry.

>>134969854
idk, I started before all the skin creation guides came about, so I pretty much do nothing that Tripwire says is super important to do, yet it all seems to work anyways
I'm going to wait on this one, mostly because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing with scripts

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>>134969215
>remove nuke
That's basically Demo's saving grace though, you know how clutch it can be when zed time kicks in as you fire a rocket at a funpound and the nuke burns through its health saving you time and explosives used? Hell, even scrakes getting hit by a nuked shot wont survive long

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thank you ema poster for the lewds

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>>134970805
>Marlboro Reds
>mouth covered with shemagh
>another shemagh around his neck
>fingerless gloves

>>134970969
say it near my pipebombs, not online and see what happens

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>>134971106
How many pipebombs do you have?

>>134970338
Is shooting a scrake with a nuke RPG really recommended? Wont it fuck up others aim?

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>>134971619
sure, the scrake is normally in the middle of a crowd.
And nuke kills all.

>>134971481
9 beep beeps on my head!

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>>134969447
>Fully loaded M32 with Nuke
>Zed time happens

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>>134972341
>all those nukes
>creating a powerful barrier of nukes around the team
No man should know this sort of power

>People can just upload the paid skins on the workshop without trouble
Why would anyone pay for them then? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=643001861

>>134973325
Take your bets now

How rapidly fast will the infamously slow Tripwire respond to this

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>still leveling demo
>gunslinger uses magnums on trash, bodyshots gorefasts, doesn't know how to kill scrakes
>no callout
>berserker uses vampire
>medic doesn't heal
>we wipe because some retard aggroed double FPs while gunslinger raged scrakes without killing them
>"saved ya there demo ;p" because he aggroed scrakes, hid behind me and I kneeshot him with medic pistol trying not to die
So, the skill in hard is
0-8 mouthbreather
9-20 coin flip decent
20+ full retard
Right?

>>134972341
Demo unloads his m32 and medic throws down his nades during zed time. A symphony of life and death as an ocean of blue and green gas engulf the area.

It's beautiful.

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>>134973325
LOL MICROTRANSACTION FAGS BTFO

>>134973579
>Expecting decent players in hard pub servers
even normal pubs are impossible to lose.

>>134973579
>Hard
Get into a HoE perk training server and save yourself an eon of rage. You don't have to prove anything to /kfg/ elitists, they just want you to suffer as they have. Get out of the atrocious non-HoE servers as fast as possible.

>>134968768

Melee weps are great for killing that trash but zerk walling does kind of ruin the experience a little bit.

>>134973968
>prove anything to /kfg/ elitists
>Get out of the atrocious non-HoE servers

did you talk about yourself there, mate?

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>>134973579
>level 20+ on hard
Good lord, i'm having flashbacks. The worst part is they even wipe at those levels because they think they're invincible, get 15-20 as soon as you can, even if it means using the training map and join the real players on Sui again.

>>134974496
your post, i like it

>>134974383
D-don't bully me p-please, I'm a d-demo too. ;_;

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damn it i just wanted to play with some /kfg/ cuties

>>134973325
well now I know how to fix my skins
even if it's a retarded method

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VS mode with /kfg/ when?

>>134975004
You can play with me.
All you have to do is spam your syringe at the end of waves so I can tune in distance attenuations

>>134975004
give me your id, ill play with you tomorrow evening.

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>>134975004
I'm not cute but I can play, post ID famalam

What should Tripwire do in their next step of feature creep? Keep in mind it should attract casuals.
I suggest a Tower Defense mod.

>>134976954
Matchmaking that works and making all perks fun.

>>134976954
social integration - automatic share of beating hans on hard

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New mechanic:
Poison from bile/gas and being set on fire now causes you to move automatically in a panicked state

>>134976954
Spin the Wheel:
Spin in between waves to gain random buff, debuff, insta win or Ðosh to the players and/or zeds .

>>134977453
ugh, I hate that sort of thing. Always feels too much like a scripted quicktime event

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>>134978042
>give dosh to zeds
Nigga you insane?

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>>134978673
>insane?
You already get Ðosh from killing them.
Why not make them drop more?

>>134978671
Well it just adds a bit more of a danger, i'm not saying keep you completely vulnerable but it should create some sort of auto-panic mode even if its just moving around, which you can still control where you go
>get hit by explosive fireball
>whole body is lit up
>"AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH PUT IT OUT MY SKINS BURNING"
>can still stand perfectly still and able to aim with no problem

been gone for 5 months. When's the next update? and I mean next perk, I heard gunslinger got added also

>>134979636
I think I'd prefer the suppression mechanic from KF2. When you're in danger (someone is firing on your position, an enemy tank is close by, your buddy just got opened up like a can of crushed tomatoes in the microwave) your vision goes blurry and your gun jumps around the screen.
If an MG is lighting you up and getting close, you're hard pressed to hit a man 5 meters away, let alone any reasonable distance

>>134979523
I want to give scrake-chan all my dosh

>>134979878
That works too, I just find it silly how getting on fire really doesn't have an effect to you as bad as poison which at least fucks up your vision unless you resist that shit.

>>134980754
at the end of the day, this game is probably the one where TWI cares the least about 'realism'. It's cartoony action fun with neat gunplay.
It's Charlie can still shoot laser straight in RS2 after getting naped, I'll be pissed

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>>134973325
>Yoshiro clearly thinks he's adding his own paid skins to free workshop
>it's going to be days before they even looks at the complaints

ded

>>134984548
I'm busy doe

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>>134950642
How you guys holding up?

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>>134985930
Very well, how bout you?

>>134985930
Let it end.

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>>134988101

>>134988101
My favorite map!

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>>134972341
>>134973001
>as we are launching a multi-grenade launcher we will give the m32 the same properties as the c4: 50% damage if fired within 2 seconds. this also works for nuke

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>>134988101
>running around the bottom floor as Berserker while Collapsing plays
>3 scrakes 2 fp 2 husks on the field
So fucking real

>>134988101
Anyone got that one webm where a team held it in the small room and all hell broke out?

Reminder bullying Demo's is perfectly fine

this game is fucking shit

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>>134990551
>mfw demos can't stand up to the superior being

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>People actually buy those "Precious" skins
They look so lazily done, don't even have unique patterns or anything like in KF1

>>134995348
Sucker born every minute, anon.

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>>134989102

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>tfw want to test 3rd person SFX
>no one in /kfg/ wants to waste time like that, and my steam friends are playing other vidyas
>don't want to try it in pub matches because it takes forever to get enough data to make adjustments

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>>134996549
Every time

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>>134996549
The fact its sped up just gets me every time

>>134996564
I can help, why not ask in chat?

Do people play ro/rs? How is it?

>>134997406
Pretty boring tbqh

>>134997159
Yeah, that'd be great. Shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes if you have the time.

How to fix demo
-remove retarded damage drop off for consecutive explosives or limit it to 70%
-buying detonator from trader costs 150, starts with no ammo, and costs normal c4 price to fill it
-have limit to how much c4 you can place
-increase weapon switch speed and reload speed with levels
-increase explosive splash with levels

Bump for Stalker waifus.

>>134996549

SOMETHING HAS GONE WRONG
SHUT IT DOWN SHUT IT DOWN

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>>134998604
>-increase weapon switch speed and reload speed with levels
yes pls

>>134996549
british humor?

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>>135001487
>All those explosives, time, distance and HP lost just for 1 FP

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>>135001739
That's the bash variant, you can use this one with a leg stumble instead but it's a tossup

>>135001739
Not like there's really anything else worth using it on

>>135000634
DEFEND

>>135002186
Or just play Zerker and do it in half the time, without getting hit

>>135002373

THE CROWN

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

>>135002401
>half the time

>Send more men. Send entire armies! I'll destroy them all...
>You're driving me ballistic!
>Come out, come out little pigs!
At least they did the lines right.

How did Han fit into the story?
Patty is Horzine CEO and runs off to Paris to destroy shit. But what about Hans? Isn't he some kind of Nazi scientist? Wtf is this nigga doing here?

>>135003820

He produces zeds too or something.

>>135003820
He's Patty's grandfather.

He was going to die and patty successfully kept him alive.

just fucking kidding, read the wiki

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>>135003993
>wiki
>lore
he'll always be le ebin German of gassing to me

>>135003993
what wiki? there is no proper wiki for kf2?

>>134970338
That's exactly my problem with it, he's too reliant on it. I should've been more clear but I meant to say something along the lines of "Remove Nuke and rebalance Demo so he's more fun to play to compensate."

>>135001487
try tossing the RPG away at the end for a ghetto quick switch

>mfw realizing all the zeds do not have benis :D

>>135004969
I bet sirens would have the biggest dicks

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>>135004969
>mfw realizing they sew up stalker's FLESHPOUND.

>>135005289
>They will never do a realistic versions of Killing Floor with all the zeds running around with their benis :D

>>135004969
they do in my fanfiction

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Why'd they make Scully so damn flamboyant?

>>135008801
Marketing mang

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>>134985930

Telling myself that TW just need a little more time and then we'll get a great update while raging at Blizzard for not updating LOTV in the last two months.

I need a volunteer to screw me long and hard againt those broken doorway hitboxes. Fuck me you literally can't fit in here.

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>>135008801
I want to fuck that frog

>>135009452
No fucking frogs allowed, there's a reason we shun Ana lovers

>>134985930
>>135009339
literally edgemaster: the game

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>>135009613

>>135009738
Tomasu's best works are 1-4. tbhfam

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>>134970969
Have you never played CS:GO before? It's one of the T in-game models.

>>135010780
what does this mean?

>>135010891
no
I have some semblance of taste, anon

>>135011007
It means his spider/ant/frog/snake designs>the later ones.

>>135011510
Is that why you're in the general for a dead early access game?

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>>135012231
yes.

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>>134970969

This.
Winnie Blues or nothing.
And make sure never to exhale.

>>135010891
>joostenpost
what's with this women that attracts such a titanic amount of autism? i wonder if it will be able to peak the mlp level

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>>135012782
I hope not, people post her enough in the Metal Gear general as it is.

>>135013598
she has her own board on eyy chan

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Th-they wouldn't not buff support in this next big update, would they?

>>135015143
They wouldn't wouldn't not buff support. Demo is also going to get nerfed.

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>>135015098
Oh God, she does.

Just why.

>>135017098
Love knows no bounds

>>135017330

You mean autism?

>>135018203
What's the difference?

>>135018278
one gets laid

>>135019410

Good answer.

>You will never impregnate a Stalker.
>You will never watch her give birth to your child in a condemned building.
>You will never teach her what true love is when she sees your child.

>>135021001
>you will never have multiple anal orgasms on scrake's big grey cock

>>135021407

Now I'm even harder.

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>>135021001
but anon, there are no girl stalkers

I've finally gotten it ready for release
>>>/wsg/987270

https://mega.nz/#F!ThkBwajQ!D2TtsNEI5TST9gjf-3eVYw

thanks to the /kfg/ testers

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>>135022385
That's lewd Ebola-chan

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>first few subscribed workshop items showed up in my KFGame cache folder
>now they don't

>>135023063
start the game, sometimes they won't appear until you do. Then you have to exit and move it all.

why the fuck is Firebug so fucking strong?
>Despite being a tier 1 weapon, Calk n Burn still does a decent job thanks to Zed Shrapnel, bonus range and Heat Wave.
>fast weapon reload
>MWG is god tier

Meanwhile Demo is fucking shit

>>135024016
>>Meanwhile Demo is fucking shit
most overpowered in TWI's opinion

>>135024784
>"Muh damage numbers"

>>135023574
that worked, thanks anon

>>135024016
You just answered yourself. By having good skills that synergize with his weapons

>>135024016
More like, why isn't every class as powerful as Firebug

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>>135015143
Never.

>>135026128
because the game would be broken easy at that point

>>135026128
I don't want every class to be as broken as FB, but I don't want every perk to be shit and HoE going back to the "Everyone shoot at the big guy until it dies" days either

SOMEONE BUFF MY NIGGAS SUPPORT AND DEMO
SHIT NIGGAS ARE WEAK AF

also some little tweak to Commando plz. Why the fuck you cannot see the all of the zeds health bar like in KF1?

>>135026439
it wouldn't if tripwire would focus on counterbalancing the zed resistances/weaknesses instead of nerfing every perk's strength into the fucking ground. but that would take too much actual work and insight, things tripwire are allergic to.

>>135027585
keep in mind they do their balance based on Normal.

>>135022385
that's almost a perfect loop

Why is Tripwire so bad?
These niggas could just release KF2 as HD Edition of KF1 with new perks, skills and leveling systems and grab more shekels than this current mess. Instead they do some memeshit and delay everything. Shit nigga, I wouldn't be surprised if they fuck up Sharpshooter.
>LMAO CSGO cosmetic systems
>LMAO L4D VS mod
I would love me some versus mode but madafaka should finish the game first. The balance is gone and every weapon is dull af

>>135027669
*Hard

>>135029870
Hard? Are you crazy? Yoshiro has already proven Normal is pretty much unbeatable.

Don't really see the point in releasing half of the SS weapons before the SS is done.
I mean new content is always appreciated but it feels sorta like a cop out.

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>>135028345
It's a given at this point that sharp will be shit.

>>135031331
LAR might be good though
please let it be good

>>135022385
Will this work online? (at least clientside)

>>135030740
I think they're making the right decision by getting any kind of new content added into the game, even if it's unfinished. It's been far too long of a wait for anything new.

>>135033159
Yes

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>>135033173

I agree.
I'd rather have LAR & Xbow now, and here are some reasons why.

>Some content is better than no content
We've not had a meaningful update since December. Yes, there was a Christmas holiday, yes, there was a New Year's holiday. These things postponed development. I understand that.
However, that's still time without an update. These weapons will give us something fresh, even if it ain't much.

>A preview of what's to come
It may not be the full set, but these weapons will give us a better idea of what to expect from SS. Are these weapons useful in their own right? Or are they only supplementary in a team effort? Is the LAR effective enough to repel trash? Is the Xbow powerful enough to kill big guys? What can we expect from the finished SS based on these two weapons?
These are all questions which might get some answers.

>Preliminary balance testing
This is somewhat related to the second point.
By getting these weapons out early, TW can see (with the players' help) if there need to be changes made. Do we need buffs for them? Do we need nerfs for them? Do they work as they should? Do they have too much power? Do they not have enough?

This, to me, is absolutely critical.
I remember very clearly when it was announced that Demo would come with Firebug, instead of SS. The Demos were laughing all day long.
A week after the update, they were laughing on the other side of their faces. Their perk was a mess. The balance was awful.

I can't have that with SS. Neither can TW.
Hopefully, any problems in these weapons could be spotted right away, and then corrected, improving the SS perk just a little more than what it would've been.

SS has a big reputation, what if it came out shit?. The old KF1 people who were keen for SS for ages are furious. What do they do?
They write/edit a review to say "TW never update, MTs in Early Access, balance is terrible, OH, AND NOW THEY RUINED SS".

Use your brains TW, don't fuck this one up. It might be your last chance.

>>135033329
Is there any way to get rid of the player audio from when you heal yourself?

Healing the girly moan with Skully's moan at the same time is weird.

>>135035080
Yes, if you give me 10 minutes I'll tell you how.

>>135035134
Do you have to delete all the player audio or what.

>>135035335
You could, I'm just tracking down the correct resource numbers for that.

I want a Donald Trump KF2 character when he becomes president.

>take cysts
>have a chance to make them actually unique witht he lack of eyes
>just turn them into retarded clots

Why are Tripwire such hacks? At least make it harder for them to die from headshots or something due to retard strength and no eyeballs.

>>135035335
In
Steam\steamapps\common\killingfloor2\KFGame\BrewedPC\WwiseAudio\Windows\English(US)
rename these 3 files-
320752479.wem
417619430.wem
935507089.wem
I'd just through "original" on the end, so you still have the files if you want to revert without verifying game cache.

>>135036242
Yeah it's pretty dumb, I was expecting more of a difference between the three clot variants. Wasted potential with the cyst.

tomorrow I release the second soundpack I finish, then move onto projects people actually want
thank you for your patience

>>135038172

You're a pretty OK guy.

RELEASE THE TOXIN

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I wonder who sugested the sword cutlass for the first time. I remember someone posted that super low res skin and I mentioned on it and now we see it here, still as low res and plastic as ever.

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>play KF2
>after one match exit game because it's not fun enough to keep my attention span focused

>play KF1 for first time in like a year
>lost track of time and played for 5 hours straight with some random people on a suicide long server
>worked together and coordinated perks
>boss wave wasn't a memebomb spam and still went by fast, no super long boss fights with people running around for half an hour

God, where did it all go so wrong?

>>135042858
shut up white bitch

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>Content pack released
>Sharp sucks and reloading rifles takes ages, just like Demolition
>Sharp also have no recoil mitigation ability just like Commando, it forces him to be a sitting duck infront of horde
>Demolition didn't get any ability based on reload or faster weapon swap related
>Even they admit Demolition have problems and can not fire properly
>Support still sucks, low on grenades, ammo and can not scavenge ammo boxes effectively
>TW devs blabber something like "It's working as intended, guys. Guys? :<"
>Causes a massive backlash, feedback is terrible, forum goes crazy, people edit their reviews, refund requests here and there
>Shows us another statistic about Support player success rate in Hell on Earth games which is around 40-60% or so
>Next content patch
>Sharp gets a fix about reload time!
>Demolition is same
>Support is same
>Stay tuned for SWAT/Martial Artist!

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>>135043932
>tfw you will never be a shitskin minority

>>135043958

Sharp is going to be shit and you have to be an idiot to not see it coming after how badly mutilated Demo was.

>>135045054
shut up white bitch

>>135038172
are you the anon who was changing the 9mm sound?

UPDATE WHEN

>>135049514
does somebody have that pic of the anime guy with a creepy look? i always used it here but at some point i lost it.

>>135042858
I want to get into KF1 since KF2 is really boring. Is the game dead?

>>135051171

You'll still find some games, but it might be tough.

In fact you might want to play a Solo game or two first, to get used to how it was.

>Oh but Anon I've played lots of KF2 so I'll just jump into a Sui server and-

Don't assume that you'll be good at KF1 just because you're good at KF2. You'll see once you get there.

>>135051621
Yeah, I know how that goes. It's because I am good (or was good since I haven't played in a month or so) that I wouldn't jump into anything higher than hard right away.

Seen enough of KF1 "vets" try to join KF2 HoE as a level 11 support pre-zerkwall meta and get blown up every wave.

>>135019410
Only if you're chad

>>135029938
You forget when they nerfed Hans just on Hard

>>135051621
>Don't assume that you'll be good at KF1 just because you're good at KF2
I support that motive. Both have varied depth specimen mechanics way different than another.

>>135051171
>>135052190
It's not dead, but real challenge and fun doesn't really start until you get Hell on Earth difficulty WITH a few inhouse friends. Because people only play either Normal, where you can't even die with some knowledge or Hell on Earth where you get rekt without abusing overpowered weaponry or having a very deep knowledge on mechanics.

At Hard difficulty you can get away with any mistake you do most of the time. As for players it's filled with gumballs who weld all doors and rage everything in sight. Funny thing is they get away with any mistake they do compared to a high difficulty setting gameplay. You'd learn nothing by playing Hard but it's fun for a while.
At Suicidal, eh I dunno. Finding a Suicidal server is a bit rarer than others. It's for people who can't get into the Hell gameplay, or trolls who got kicked from all HoE servers you know already. So get ready for absurd team setups and noobs who abuse OP mechanics trying to be the most kill scorer of the server whilst trying to impress people with "skills" they have. Aside from Suicidal being somewhat easy because AI doesn't protect each other as much as a Hell on Earth game, it's really fun to troll these tryhards acting like a complete clueless newb.
At Hell on Earth, it's a complete hit or miss because there are trolls who act like a complete fool (Dwarfs?! Axe Sharp, you wouldn't see that coming), zerks who cause team wipes by deliberately pulling big targets in the middle of team or people who powerlevel'd their way to lvl6 and think they can play it without any knowledge. Let's not forget about people who are really stubborn about holding unenjoyable deadend funnel spots, welding a single door like an alltime job and broomcloset hold up points with doorzerks then pub games could be an "No Fun Allowed" land

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>>135034972
This nigga has some reasonable points, we can at least scout out the potential of the LAR and crossbow to see the general potential that SS has with its toys.
If it takes say 5 shots to headshot a scrake with the crossbow offperk, it could easily mean we could expect SS to need 2-3 as its an onperk.
It might not be all that black and white, but damn if its not the way to test the waters and give a little more variety.

>>135052190
>KF1 "vets"
Any casual-master who have all acheebs in KF1 within' 500 hours of leeching calls himself a "KF1 veteran". I know quite a few regulars and they never call themselves as a veteran.

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>>135027564
THE POWER CLASSES ARE NO LONGER POWERFUL, THIS SHITS UNACCEPTABLE.

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>>135054315
Dumb frogposter.

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>>135054847
Stupid weebposter

>>135054847
Whys that shota got a spinny thingy?

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i want more /eu/ friends to play with
add Foxtrot 841 if you also want to play with other eu players
is there a way to force 20 hp heal instead of 50 so that you can get used to the damage handling in solo to prepare for multiplayer?

are there any qt demos in steamchat?

>>135061142
What makes a qt demo?

>>135061362
cuteposting

>>135061362
Playing Ana while demo

>>135061473
Two negatives don't make a positive anon

>>135061724
demos on suicide watch

>>135061724
>Ana or demo
>negative
Hmmmm

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mutator menu and listen servers when

>>135062308
Previews for custom maps when

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Guys I know how to save demo:
Change reactive armour to when you lose all your armour instead of just 5 health and it can be reused if you get more armour regardless of if it was from med darts or not
Imagine blowing up 24/7

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>>135062432
yes, i want my allahu back

>>135062432
>everytime you take self damage you will explode and deal damage and stun all enemies around you
pls tripwire

>>135062432
>give demo a dart every time it goes off
>he's pretty much defended from being swarmed again
That could be pretty fun actually

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WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA?

>>135063659
look at briar's face, he desires to die.

>>135063659
>that look of regret

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Lets get some discussion going
Would you rather:
1) TW puts focus onto nerfing the overpowered classes first?
or
2) TW puts priority on buffing the underpowered classes
Its a rare occurrence if they actually decide to balance both sides out, so its down to those two options first.

>>135064996
There are more underpowered classes than there are overpowered

So I'd rather they focus on making demo and support not shit. Also making commando a bit more distinct

>>135064996
2 all the way
I'd rather have everything decently strong but still enjoyable to play with than nerf everything to make it it less appealing.
If you play something like demo or support, unless you're really good at them or have a team to protect your time to shine, you'll most likely be holding the team back and that shouldn't be the case. If you make it so everyone is worse off, it becomes tedious to play something again, I can't even stand to play support anymore with how snapped into pieces it is.

>>135058035
So she can vomit.

>>135064996
I don't think you can prevent zerkwall without nerfing some perks, and zerkwall is the biggest problem now. So, 1).

>>135064996
Number 2.
We have many examples of what happens when someone is mentally unable to allow things in their game to have buffs. Steakmund among other games.

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INFINITE PENETRATION AS A ZEDTIME MARKSMAN PERK

Hey Yoshiro you fat fuck, implement a seperate button for changing the firerate of a weapon please. It would be good for berserker so that he can disable the explosive on the Pulverizer and then he can deal with scrakes without needing to use any of his explosive ammo. It would be good for medic to pace shots with the medic AR because the fire rate is too quick. It can be used to change how the C4 works (exploding directly on impact or landing and needing a second press).

>>135064996
Buffing. OP classes are at least fun compared to garbage classes where you have to put in 3x the effort to be effective.

>>135068213
Railgun better have unlimited penetration by default

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>>135068213
The nep crossover is getting closer each day

Alright, i'm biting. Is there actually something relevant with neptunia to this general or is just a bit of a meme?

>>135070298
What do you think?

>>135070352
I'm not being paid to think

>>135070298
TW is in good connections with the neptunia company

>>135064996
Make all the perks fun is the only answer.

>>135071704
Well both communities seem to have the same battered wife syndrome.

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>>135072707
It all makes sense now

Why isn't anybody working on vehicle mod for KF2? It has way more potential than the game itself....

I could imagine objective modes, battle cars with guns attached to them, good old racing and racetrack/derby maps, bumper cars, zombie splatter, etc.

>>135073471
did that cat actually get on the newspaper?

I really want to work on a melee gladiator mod for KF2, two go in as zerk and spar/melee each other to hone their attacking/parrying skills just as a fun sideoption to doing it on scrakes/fleshpounds so often, it could be kind of considered PVP in that sense but it just adds a bit more of a prediction/timing game with others and learning the dance again

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Am I the only one that thinks that the Game Conductor is a terrible idea in a game like KF?

The difficulties being set in stone wasn't a problem in the first game, I don't understand why they want to tinker with it during gameplay in KF2.

>>135077478
Tripwire is trying to automate as much as possible.

They want the community to make the content and an algorithm and graphs to tell them what to do

>>135077478
You wouldn't want your casuals to have a hard time, right? Who cares if your core community feel betrayed anyway?

>>135077478
Because it sounds fancy and lets them waste more time on asinine bullshit instead of actually finishing the game. Plus they seem to be copying the fuck out of L4D so might as well go the whole way, right?

>>135053417
Cool, thanks for the info. You wouldn't happen to be that anon who gave KF1 advice in the previous threads would you? I should go back and check those threads for your advice again cuz that was good stuff. A lot of steam guides seem to be hit or miss and I don't know enough about KF1 to tell whether a guide is bad or not.

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>tfw swat will never get a swat shield and some awesome and revolutionary gameplay mechanic

>2016
>still no lobby kick
>still no kicking for like 5 mins after game start
>have to sit through the 3 minute wait for the afk guy
>2 people can lock down a lobby if they wanted to
Why the fuck did they ever think removing lobby kick was a good idea?

>>135079937
>you will never use the shield to surf on slopes to cut down zeds and speenrun to shop

>>135079937
Feels good man, the sound of some 'epic riot cop' sounds boring as shit

>>135080324
I agree with this, none of the other classes have anything outside of guns, melee, and grenades. Why should we be making exceptions for 1 class?

>>135078949
>You wouldn't happen to be that anon who gave KF1 advice in the previous threads would you?
Actually, I am him; 4k hours KF1 anon. If you wanna know something ask away. I'm here for a while.

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>>135080495
Its just this general case that everyone expects this to be some special class
>tasers on guns
>a baton instead of a knife
>riot shield
>some kind of charge attack with said shield
I don't see why TW would make such distinctness for one perk like changing the knife formula or giving them a huge shield to just hide behind while everyone else is still relatively the same. All I can see is just more general armour and MAYBE the taser attachment.

>>135077607
I think you're right. It's like they don't want to actually playtest changes they make. Using win rate per difficulty on each boss is a very shallow way to adjust balance.

It's incredible how they have to waste time on creating this system which tracks statistics instead of becoming familiar with how their own game plays, or at the very least asking someone who has a lot of hours invested into the game.

>>135081109
Wait. I remember something like "We don't want to use numbers to balance the game, higher difficulties just add moves and skills to the zeds".

Is it still the case, or like the light on guns they threw it away.

>>135080495
diversity and innovation, perhaps trying new things and see how it turns out. it is an early access game, after all.

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>>135081097
>why should tripwire make an extremely distinct class, i mean it is just called SPECIAL WEAPONS AND TACTICS while the other classes has generic names
fuck you senpai

>>135080802
Unfortunately I don't have any questions beyond if there's anything I should before going into the game as Commando. I am also interested in Demo and Support, but I'm pretty certain you explained them previously so I'll just check the archives.

>>135022385
great work there anon. Would you like to explain how you accomplished this?

>>135081606
>special weapons
Machine guns aren't all that special
>tactics
Hide behind the shield like the coward you are, great

>>135081109
Reminder that Tripwire didn't know that dud round were a thing until the release of the workshop
It's possible they still don't

Which is played more now? KF1 or KF2?

>>135081570
>tripwire
>anything good ever

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>>135081750
if you don't have a big scrake dick rubbing against your butt drenching your pants with precum you ain't happy eh?

>>135081750
machineguns specifically designed to penetrate armor and being able to use them in extremely confined spaces are very special
how is it cowardly to take cover? do you run up to the husk or the siren or indeed the fleshpound and attack it head on with any other class than the berserker?

>>135082813
Damn right I do, scrakes big girth shouldn't be held back

Who plays on custom servers here? It is good progress, but admittedly it isn't as impressive as KF1s custom servers.

>>135082475
KF1
>1103 playing right now, 1185 24h peak

KF2
>2153 playing right now, 2283 24h peak

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>>135082976
>implying scrake isn't a girl

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>>135083564
Way to ruin the thread
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>135083393
>A 7 year old game has better custom content than a 1 year old early access game with unfinished modding support
No shit

>>135083734
I miss the turrets, they made the custom maps so ridiculous.

>>135083507
Disgusting.

Berserker should get a resistance against Sirens.

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>>135082835
Damn right I do, I give them a good blast in the face with the DBS

>>135081629
>if there's anything I should before going into the game as Commando
Watching and clearing the line between your Sharpshooter, Support and big targets preferably at small auto bursts.
Studying Gorefast hitboxes from different angles and ranges to decapitate them easier, (head height behind of neck)
decapping Husk and Sirens from afar (3 small accurate bursts from FNFAL like a total of 5-6 bullets or 2 offperk'd Lever-action headshots, SCAR works instead of FAL but recoil is high so effective range drops abit without giving pause between bursts),
Silencing Sirens (shoot when they nod down with high bullet damage rifles, or keep them under small burst focus fire with bullpup or M4, youtube must have vids about it)
Taking out 2nd Scrake with a flinch combo when required (4 small bursts to head from SCAR or FAL, "reload", switch to katana or chete, do a flinch hit, then unleash full mag SCAR/FAL to head)
You can kill Fleshpound but that either means you have to pull the 5 nade stack combo which can be lethal if you can't put a distance, or carry a M32 offperk by the help of team's Demo or changing perk for 1 wave. Whether you choose, FP is NOT your job to tackle unless it's about to hit someone, keep your distance from raged FP clear around and stand behind others. If you see it's about to go down then focus your attention on FP and try to time your nade throw as he started rage animation.

Also I did explain Demolition but not Support... Guess I'll need a second post for it...

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>>135083674
hopefully tripwire sees the amazonian waifu potential and makes female variants of enemies, like l4d did with the boomer.

it couldn't be added challenge if they have smaller goofier hitboxes

on a side note, was pic related a cringy tumblr blog? or was it good? I forgot to ever look for it when I asked for sauce

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Demo change:
All dynamite sticks now automatically explode on contact
Level 5 skill on contact is now replaced with ability to carry 4 more dynamite sticks, if you can carry everyone elses nades then you can carry more for yoself

What is the point of the store?
What the heck are they selling me?

>>135085241
Cosmetics

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Why cant you just carry more ammo instead of a second gun?

What is your fun difficulty? I think I've only been palying Hard since weeks now with the occasional sui.

>>135085241

To give people like me experience in making cool textures for guns.
All the while trash that takes no effort like Street Punks get implemented instead.
Yes, I'm salty.

>>135085604
I play solo mostly so either hard or sui depending on perk.

>>135085658
I don't see that, I see USB keys.

>>135085584
Why can't Horzine just give us tanks and armored vehicles?

>>135085658
Its okay anon, its not your fault most people don't like subtle textures, we're getting the CS:GO and TF2 treatment now, expect the same kind of people.

>>135085584
Custom servers let you do that.

>>135085938

My textures are anything but subtle, but I dare say most are at least better than Street Punks.
If you can't see a skin is there it defeats the point of having one.

>>135085879
That's too big for the trading pod

>>134973325
This guy just keeps going
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=644435839
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=644492306
Wish he'd upload the good skins though

>>135086103

It can just print them out in parts.

>>135086206
>Building an armored vehicle in-between waves
>Some dumb pub gets in and crashes it
mite b cool

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>>135086045
You not the skinanon who's got his stuff in the OP? My bad man
>>135086206
>print parts of the vehicle which is pricey as is
>need to put it together through welding because logic
>support now makes rides for the squad