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Shitty trap Edition.

Previously >>134864734

>[Pre-America Stuff]
3/9 to 3/23: Half-AP for story missions
3/16 to ???: Supposedly hard event for players that have cleared London
3/9 to 3/16: Fujo Gacha with Marik, Astolfo and Kid Gil and various CEs

>[Main Quest 1/2 AP Campaign]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20160307
March 9 (Wed) 16:00 to March 23 (Wed) 13:59 JST
- All Main Quest from Fuyuki to London will have 1/2 AP Cost
- Must complete London to participate in the upcoming VERY HARD Event

>[Chaldea Boys Collection 2016 Gacha]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20160307b
March 9 (Wed) 16:00 to March 16 (Wed) 13:59 JST
- 5* Ruler: Amakusa Shirou
- 4* Rider: Astolfo
- 3* Archer: Young Gil
- Other 5*: Vlad, Zhuge Liang, Tesla

>[Chaldea Boys Collection 2016 Limited CE Campaign]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20160307c
March 9 (Wed) 16:00 to March 16 (Wed) 13:59 JST
You can select 1 free CE from below:
- 5* Kiss Your Hand: Arts/Buster/Quick +10%
- 5* Professor and Me: Start with 50% NP, crit weight +300%
- 5* Versus: ATK +80%, DEF +40% against Divinity
- 4* Four Beasts of the Moonlight: NP gain +12%, star rate +12%, regen 200HP
- 4* Glassful Sweet Time: Sure-hit, damage plus +400, damage cut -200
- 4* Noisy Obsession: Crit damage +15%, NP damage +15%, Charm rate +12%
- 3* Salon de Marie: Evasion x1, heal +5%, debuff rate +3%
- 3* Prince of Slayers: Crit star +1 every turn, ATK +8% againts dragons


>News and Reminders
- Latest changes:
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- America to be written by Higashide


>Datamine
http://pastebin.com/LDRZ5ac5

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info
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First for Nobu a CUTE.
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>>134900435
>158 and 152 cms tall
Fucking midgets
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He's not actually that bad.
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>>134900283
I want Astolfo to make me his bitch and cum in all of my orifices!
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I want to fuck him so badly
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xth for best Archer.
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xth for CLOWN!
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Best loli and Sakura!
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All of the knights of the round table are summoned as your enemies. You summon 8 servants to combat them, 1 from each main class and either 1 Ruler or 1 Avenger. You can only summon one servant from each country and none from England. Who do you summon?
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Is Amakusa any good?

The nip meme list says he's just above Gil.
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>>134900574
If my dick could still get hard it would get for him
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>>134900548
>not 145
Midgets are love, midgets are life.
Ari Ozawa servant when?
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>>134900682
No
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>>134900663
A single Ruler would fuck them over.
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Qin Liangyu WHEN?!
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>>134900574
I'll dress up like him for you and suck your dick under your desk while you play.
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you have to remove ONE servant each from every star rank, from 1 to 5
which ones would they be?
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>>134900663
Saber.
Lancer Arturia.
MHX
Saber Lion (Berserker)
Caster Arturia
Santa Alter
Ruler King Arthur
Archer Arturia.
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>>134900808
Would you let me suck you off?
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>>134900846
Orion
Siegfried
Hans
Samurai
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>>134900846
Drake
CasLiz
Boudica
Sanson
Mata Hari
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>>134900708
Hormones anon is that you?

>>134900808
I'm sure you'd like that you little slut.
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>>134900682
Good if you don't have anything I guess. He's just incredibly underwhelming and brings nothing to the team.
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>>134900548
Meh, they are my size
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>>134900765
>S2 never
It hurts.
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>>134900846
Orion
Siegfried
Saber Gilles
Benkei
Mata Hari
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>>134900995
Yes, wow I didn't expect people to remember something like that
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Post sub teams.
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>>134900765
>Midgets are love, midgets are life.
agree
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>>134901010
I already have a LV3 NP Jannu.

His skillset is like her but worse. And that NP...

I hope they'll make him useful someday somehow.
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>>134901079
>>134900765
I'd like a Seo servant myself
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>>134900846
Arturia
Stheno
Boudica
Phantom
Spartacus
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>>134901156
How can I forget someone as cute as you anon.
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>>134900846
Amakasu
Astolfo
Deermud
Sanson
Mozart
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>>134901276
His skillset is actually better. The NP gain skill is insane. But his NP hits for jack shit so it's not that useful on him.
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>>134900995
I'd love it, give me that cock.
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>>134901347
I'm not really that cute, I just try... Just like I tried rolling for Astolfo and failed
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>>134901321
But Sawashiro is in the game already.
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Fluffy!
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>>134901195
She does that style better.
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Why don't more people love the Good Doctor?

>>134900846
Sasaki
Leonidas
P-chan
Fionn
5* Chiron
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ERP FAGS LEAVE REEEEE
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>>134900846
Gilgamesh
Lancelot
Deermud
Benkei
Spartacus
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Why is Shirou brown? Isn't he Japanese?
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>>134901337
>boudica
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Is it worth leveling a t3 Servant, or should I just hold out for t4?
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>>134901562
Have you ever seen an Okinawan?
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>erp
Fuck off
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>>134901562
>Japan doesn't have any brown people
Are you retarded?
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>>134901615
Would Bootyca onee-san get along well with Astolfo-chan?
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>>134901551
>Why don't more people love the Good Doctor?
I'm not sure you even like him if you want every Miki servant removed from the game.
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>>134901551
I was gonna ascend him but I ran out of gears.

Why does Doctor even need gears?
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>>134901615
She's just so shit. I like her as a character, but she's just so bad as a unit the game would be better off without her. Just recycle her in whatever the next Fate story is and give her a buff.

I'd still love to bury my face in her tits while she strokes my hair.
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Oh shit.
Honk Honk Gudako?
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Evil Witch! and fox slut
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>>134901441
It's okay anon, not like he's gone from the gacha. Just have some faith and he'll come to you. Stop being bashful am sure you look just as cute as Astolfo.
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>>134901551
He's my support servant, most of the time except for right now because I need more FP for when Ko-Gil is added to the poverty gacha and no one uses him.
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>>134901813
Yeah he also did that "Gudako gets a jewel from gatcha" comic a few months ago.
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>>134901813
Gudako confirmed for westaboo?
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>>134901743
So I can be the only one to use him after I take over the company.
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>I actually wasted 80 quartz trying to roll for Waver

To think I actually ditched two accounts when the game was out because I rolled him... times changed.
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>>134901884
Yes, I should be happy that he is not limited at least, but he is just so cute
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>>134902113
Are you going to usher in the era of Paraface?
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>>134901983
>Not having 400k FP just hanging around
poorfags I swear
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>Electronic Role Playing

ERPfags Leave right now.
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>shitposting with Astolfo images
For shame, anons
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>>134900663
Ruler St.Peter
NP: "He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword"

Lancer Loki

Archer Edison
NP: Patent Office - Makes it so NPs other than his own are unusable, since he claimed copyright first.

Saber Musashi

Berserker Little Red Riding Hood

Caster Miguel de Cervantes

Rider Berith

Assassin Sentient Drone helicopter that keeps shooting down Isis or Al Queda leaders, which has an ability that disguises it so it can't be seen as a weapon. More drones might be summoned, they might be controlled by unnamed hero in the background.
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>>134902194
I had to use most of it to get him in the first place.
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>>134902246
REMOVE ASTOLFO
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>>134900643
Got cut off her legs and BTFO by EMIYA.
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>>134902385
You have to beat me in a duel
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>>134902385
Make /fgog/ great again.
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>>134902246
Why is he pouting?
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>>134902135
You'll roll him, I'm sure of it.
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>>134902495
Would Amakusa and Jeanne Alter get on well together?
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God bless America
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>>134902531
Would the story of apocrypha be better if dragondick ended with Astolfo?
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I really wish the Waver CE gave attack instead of HP. My Karna would love the attack boost to put him into the 13k range.
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Sensei!

>>134900765
My man.
Chiyo a cute!

>>134901634
Some like Cu are really good.
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Pretty cool guy

If I wasn't saving Quartz I would roll for him.

Hopefully they really do push him into FP next week.
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>>134900283
I want to break him
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>>134902580
Jannu Alter is a heretic so no.
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Why does ever 4 star Fate Apocrypha servant end up as shit? Just look a Sumanai, Faggot, and Atalanta .
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>>134902531
He knows people can't handle how fabulous he is
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>>134902368
>Berserker Little Red Riding Hood
a shame peacock killed her
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>>134901634
There are plenty of really good 3* servants that I definitely suggest lurking if you get them. FSN Cu and David are among the best in the game. Cu does not die and David can grant full team dodge and attack boost.
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Is this a ruse by DW?

They made the new servants and CEs shit so anyone who just started will have to whale on America gacha for any decent servant.

America will be hard so you will need actually good servants, not this Marek and trap shit.
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>>134902759
>atalanta
>shit
Get with the times.
Frankenmoe is good too.
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>>134902858
I wasted 172 saved quartz and 17 tickets on this gacha, only to get three Kogil, Herc, Fionn, and a fuck ton of CEs. I just wanted Amakusa because I think he's cool as fuck.
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>>134902802
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>>134902858
Bait aside, Marik is probably pretty good at clearing story content actually. The high effective HP comes in very handy. It's when you start building endgame teams and farming teams when he becomes pointless.
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So what is everyone doing on this two weeks of rest?
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>>134903151
>2
fuck off entitled chimp
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>>134902621
Not really. The huge problem with the focus on Sieg is that he basically doesn't have to struggle for anything he wants except at the very beginning and the very end. People would like him more if he wasn't part of such a huge chunk of nothing happening as he progressively acquires superpowers thanks to other people.

Like, if Darnic died at the end of book 3 instead of book 2, you'd have a much longer time where things were up in the air, instead of two and a half books of Amakusa being the main villain but not doing anything or interacting with anyone but Shakespeare and Semi. That would have meant that Sieg would have actually had to struggle and undergo some kind of hardship in order to free the other homunculi, instead of just arguing with an exhausted Fiore for five pages. He and Astolfo could have also had to really deal with Selinike, instead of Mordred just running through the scene and solving the problem for them.
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>>134903002
To add to this, I had been saving since New Years where I blew everything to get Karna and succeeded. I've been saving for Shirou, Alter Egos, Avenger, and Enkidu.
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>>134903002
I wasted 260 quartz. Only to get some shitty Shirou and Astolfo. I even refunded all 860 quartz.
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Hitler was a double all along

Real Hitler seems like a careful guy in this war, the possibly of being a genderbent is still open as well for now.

Its funny how people were trashing Hitler losing so much when they heard about it some threads back, saying it doesn't count and story is garbage, as though they weren't expecting a twist.
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>>134903082
Marik isn't even that bad as an endgame servant. High attack and monstrous HP, able to spam his NP to clear enemy buffs and dodges and can stun servant enemies. Once his NP gets interlude upgrades he'll be great. Remember how Vlad and Altera were seen as shit until they got their NP upgraded? Amakusa can quite easily become a lot better.
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>>134900846
Gil
Lancelot
Caesar
Caligula
Spartacus
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What is the next servant you guys are saving for? I got 150 rolls saved up for Semirami. Might spend some if Li Shuwen comes out before her.
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>>134903151
Grinding dragon fangs and Assassin/Saber skill stones.
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>>134903397
Sigurd, or the second coming of Bryn
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>>134903397
Jeanne on her next rate up.
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>>134903151
Two weeks? Motherfucker I'm ready for next week for this suppose hard event. Just leveling up my servants to 90 just in case for now.
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>>134903397
Saving for Semi as well.
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>>134903397
Meltlilith, Enkidu, Proto Gil, or Avenger. I have lofty goals.
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>>134903397
104 quartz saved up for an Alter Ego or whatever the next collab servant is.
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>>134903324
>double
>genderbent
How does that work?
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>>134903397
I have the ones I wanted now, barring KoGil, Gil, and Enkidu. I can just wait until KoGil's in the FP gacha to get him, and the other two are months away. Plenty of time to save quartz.
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>>134903628
Gawain acted as Arturia's double.
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>>134903457
Where you grinding fangs bro? I tried Okeanos but rates are pretty bad.
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>>134903628
You have a figurehead guy out in the public, he's the guy that takes all the shit and has to kill himself eventually when this all goes sour.

Meanwhile the real leader is never seen openly, and stays in the background. Makes a clean break for it when this is all over.
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>>134903512
watch the event just be "Bring Kintoki" and blow shit up.
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>>134903691
Okeanos.

I'm just not keeping track of how many I'm actually getting because I need a fuckton for skills. I just assume I'm going to need more.
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>>134901012
>they are my size
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>>134903789
>berserker memers really believe this
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>>134903252
>Implying that Shirou will be a better unit than Archer (EMIYA), that Avenger isn't going to suck in battle, Enkidu isn't going to be another 7.8, and that Alter Egos aren't going to be just nerfed fanservice and waifu material to avoid breaking the game.
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>>134903397
Gawain, the first 5* male saber.
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>>134903808
Theres two areas in Okeanos, the wyvern ones or the Skeleton Warriors?

I need approx 146 and right now I'm at 6.
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>>134903789
I have never used a Berserker to end my boss fights that's just boring. Except Vlad though he's cool.
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>>134903956
Wyverns.
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>>134901783
She just needs another interlude is all.
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>>134903956
I've seen people suggest the skeletons, but I cannot verify.
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>>134903902
>caring about how good they are
You deserve nothing
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They really need to make enemies smarter. It should try and target Berserkers and servants at low HP. They also need to stop using buffs AFTER attacking.

This game is too fucking easy at endgame. Needs to be harder without just giving enemies 1mil HP.
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Would Amakusa slay the gay?
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>>134904171
But Amakusa is the gay
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>>134903397
Sensei part 3. A Caster version of her might be nice.
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>>134903902
Alter Egos are powerful, even if they were gimped they would still be powerful.

Passionlip probably has an instant death attack with high damage, Presence Concealment A+, and a few other decent skills. Masochistic Constitution is something Nasu said is quite necessary for an RPG tank class fighter to absorb damage, so that skill probably raises defense.

Meltlilith's virus probably manifests as a large debuff for enemies, and her NP is also probably a strong attack and debuff. Sadistic Constitution on the other hand is suited for attack, so that will likely raise attack.

It'll take longer to figure out the ingame mechanics for the others.
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Post Karna and Siegfrieds
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>>134904354
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>>134904056
18+ Fate/Grand Order when? I want my final ascend art to be lewd.
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>mfw Amakusa bossfight
>all the Jhannus get rekt
Did they build him with killing her in mind?
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>>134904354
I'll post better.
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>>134904406
>Amakusa NP goes off
>1000 damage total

Yeah, nah. If Jeanne uses her skill to lower NP damage, Amakusa's NP might actually start to heal.
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>>134904643
They both counter each other desu, Jeanne's 2nd skill lowers NP damage and I think his NP removes the invincibility from Jeanne's NP
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>Emiya is featured heavily in FGO's main OP
>he is a 4* servant, not 5*
>shitty abilities
>not even relevant to the story so far
Will he get his time?
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>>134904354
Post the mermaid one
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>>134904828
>featured heavily
He got one clip in Fuyuki
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>>134904396
FGO is a christian game, anon.
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>>134904146
Also, pretty much every enemy has the same attack pattern.
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>>134904828
Yes, UBW. He's had a whole route just for him, a movie, and an anime series of his route. What more do you want?
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>>134904806
Theres no point in Jeanne needing to NP if Amakusa's NP can't even pass 3 digit numbers.
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>>134904924
He was fighting Jhannu too
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>>134904963
You can never have enough Emiya.
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>>134904828
>Will he get his time?
Whenever we get his Assassin and Alter versions of him.
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>>134903902
>>134904352
So, does literally anyone in canon have a counter to Violet's skill set? Crack Ice seems basically unbeatable unless you finish her off in one sneak attack from behind.
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>>134904354
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>>134904926
Oh well I guess I'm just stuck with Tohsaka's anus in the vn.
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>>134904963
and two Extra games
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So Amakusa 8.0
reasons: he can take damage but he hits like a kitten.
do the people that have him agree with this?
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>>134904893
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>>134901471
I know that. But Seo's personality is why I love her so much
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>>134905159
Who is the top and who is the bottom?
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Do you think Cu would be a good tamer for Leomon?
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>>134904056
Do you think Boudica would be okay with it if I insist on cuddling with her while wearing lorica segmentata?
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>>134905101
That's true, more EMIYA is good.
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>>134905229
No, he can deal damage just fine. His normal attacks hurt plenty on every enemy class. His NP is lacking, but he can still lash out good damage.
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Gonna level up Boudica all the way since I have a thing for older sisters
wish me luck
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>>134905229
Only his NP is shit but he hits fine and has quite a good star gen
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>>134905334
>Do you think Boudica would be okay with it if I insist on cuddling with her
Probably.
>while wearing lorica segmentata
Rest in pieces, anon.
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>>134903397
Mochizuke Chiyome. Might roll for C.C. though.
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>>134905282
>who is the bottom?
When ever Siegfried is involved it's always him.
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>>134904354
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>>134905141
>unless you finish her off in one sneak attack from behind.
so some assassins and passionlip wuth presence concealment can finish her off from behind then?

also, as violet's natural enemy, don't expect meltlilith to fight her cleanly without sneaking from behind or cheating in some way
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>>134905229
It's advantages and disadvantages is suicide or more with the attack treasure tool is a ruler class no longer take, but strong no doubt that it can be NP acquisition and star formation without turning off the command card. Strengthening released and star formation, because of there is no undue importance keep the ornament just for Stan granted, at the time of operation want to create an environment in which we can participate actively attack as the attacker. Because quite low maximum firepower against average firepower, not only the master skills, support skills operation of low rare mackerel which made full use of the order change even when the fight while taking into thermal calculation cost adjustment also becomes easy.
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>>134905329
Fuck off Cyberslut

No, Lilithmon would be a good Master for Carmilla.
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>>134905751
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>>134905235
Why a mermaid?
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>>134905751
what the fuck did I just read
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>>134905952
It's google translate of an evaluation segment dumb fotm anime poster
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>>134905543
shes shit
kill yourself
you're wasting horseshoes
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>>134905229
>Does less damage than Gilgamesh
>NP does less damage than Gilgamesh's
>Higher-ranked than Gilgamesh

Do you ever wonder if the Japanese Fate fanbase is just as autistic as /fgog/ and gets furious over what characters other fans like or don't like?
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>>134905702
Yeah. I was more thinking that she seems to so completely stuff anyone who ever comes up in power level arguments.
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>>134906128
It's because he can take twice as many dicks before dying.
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>>134906128
Amakusa hasn't gotten powercreeped and doesn't have a superior 3* version, charisma is pretty much the only redeeming factor adult gil has and it means nothing now that ko-gil has it too alongside a superior and easier to max NP
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>>134906128
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>>134906128
Only his NP damage is weaker. His actual attack is higher than Gil's because Ruler damage modifier. And that NP damage is only for now, he will get better with an interlude and leave Gilgamesh further behind.
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>>134906543
Opposite, actually.
Gil has a datamined NP upgrade. Amakusa is just a guess.
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>>134905229
Debuf enemies will probably become a thing in the future.

When this happens he'll be top tier.
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>>134906543
You do know that Gilgamesh hasn't gotten his interlude either, right?

People should just use whatever servants they want, I just think it's kind of bizarre how consistently the guy keeps Gilgamesh that low tier while raising equally poor servants to higher ranks.
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>>134906748
I'm confident he lurks here and just wants to cause shitposting.
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>>134903902
I don't care how good they are, they're cool as fuck. And Shirou is better than Emiya Archer already anyway. I meant Amakusa when I said Shirou if that was unclear.
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>>134903397
Next Arturia rate up because I need to make Emiya happy and probably next Casko rate up because I already have Weiba, Jannu and Vlad for perfect Arts team
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>get dumped by gf
>log in and get ticket
>roll new boyfriend

Thanks DW, I always wanted a brown partner
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>>134905141
It probably not that powerful, or has a time-limit. Also her overall attack power is lowered slightly in order to make her skill a bit more broken. Medusa made a Dio reference during Ataraxia anyway, which seems to have led to this characters conception a bit.

Alter Egos are supposed to counter each other in a circle.
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>>134907421
Yorokobe Shounen
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>>134907421
>having a girlfriend in the first place

You have only yourself to blame.
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>>134906748
I get what you mean about wanting to use the servants you like. I'm loving my Amakusa and Fionn, two servants people often call shit. I just get kind of pissed when people keep calling the servant shit when its obvious that they're going to get stronger with interludeS. Gilgamesh will definitely get his time and interludes in Babylon and Amakusa being one of the most important servants in Apo will definitely be getting upgrades too.
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>>134904352
Don't we technically already know what Passionlip's NP is going to do, since it's Brynhildr?

It's just going to have different targets.
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>>134903397
Proto Arthur, Proto Gil and Enkidu. Semiramis would be neat.
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>>134907665
I'm more interested in their skills. How is Trash and Crash going to work?
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>>134907629
Gilgamesh technically isn't even supposed to be out yet, we got a few servants way earlier than they were supposed to be included in terms of story. Such as Tamamo, Karna, Arjuna, etc.

The drawback is that these characters also don't have interludes, so they're surpassed by the ones that do for now.
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>>134907438
Meltlilith also made a Dio reference, when they asked her how many persons she has melted. What's up with references to Jojo across Nasu's works?

>>134907370
>they're cool as fuck
Eye 2nd dis.
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>>134907797
So what does that mean for Kintoki?
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>>134907798
Type Moon references everything, because they're nerds.

>>134907885
Isn't he out officially by now? He'll probably still get a buff later on.
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>>134907421
Grats on the new boypussy
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>>134907885
NP interlude soon.
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>>134907798
>What's up with references to Jojo across Nasu's works?
Jojo is absurdly popular in Japan and extremely influential.

>>134907936
>Isn't he out officially by now?
Nope.
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>>134907629
> I just get kind of pissed when people keep calling the servant shit when its obvious that they're going to get stronger with interludes.
Ignore em. If we listened to /fgog/ about which servants to use then we would never be able to play the game because every servant has people who shitpost about them.
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Rolled Siegfried off my ticket.
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>>134908121
Sumanai.
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>>134908121
Cool, keep us updated.
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>>134901735
of course. they're brit friends
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>>134903397
553 quartz save so far for Mother Harlot.
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Who's better between Frankenmoe and Retard cat? Both have rank 5 NP I have no other zerkers ;_;
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>>134908339
But Astolfo left Britannia for France.
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>>134908443
Both have serious drawbacks, but Frankenmoe has the stronger NP and better skills so she's probably just slightly better.
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>>134908031
>If we listened to /fgog/ about which servants to use then we would never be able to play the game because every servant has people who shitpost about them.
Never seen anyone shitpost about 2x Kintoki 1x Chevalier
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>>134908443
Fran of course
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>>134908403
Oh so that's why you always use Jeanne as your leader.

At least thanks to you I can do the 2 Jeanne team against hard bosses.
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>>134908645
Not as a team but people shitpost about Kintoki and D'eon.
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>>134908645
People used to shitpost about kintoki before they buffed his skills
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>>134907551
What skills of his are worth leveling?
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>>134908645
That set up will get fucked up once we get a servant enemy with a AOE NP has enough health to survive that beatdown. If MHZ was AOE they'd have been completely fucked.
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>>134908803
Before he was released, you mean.

He was released with the exact same skills he has now.
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Anyone hit 120 yet?
I don't use my Apples outside of events but I effectively manage my AP and I only just hit 116 today.
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>>134908848
Revelation and Divine Judgement
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>>134902619
That's not even a bald eagle.
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>>134908803
>before they buffed his skills
To be fair his skill were really shitty before he got released and they fixed them the first or second day of his gacha event.
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>>134908720
1) i dont have anything else people would like as a leader.
2) Jeanne was my first servant so im attached to her to the point i cant see my team without her at the front.
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>>134903361
And Vlad is getting another NP interlude. RADical
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Did lily show up in the KnK event at all?
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>>134909142
Nope.
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Tesla, Iskander, Kintoki, Sprite 1/2 Waver. Who else should go into this true men's squad?
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>>134909224
>no GARcher
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Post Frankenstein
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One time I have to conclude that tier list is officially bullshit, because this guy definitely doesn't hit like a "kitten"
His NP is pretty low damage without buffs, but I managed to do 300k with buffs so that's good enough for what it is
Generates stars well and his NP is fairly spamable thanks to his skill and NP gain
He at least has crazy synergy with this combo of him, Bride and Waver I'm using, definitely not a bad servant so don't let that silly list influence your opinion on any servant honestly
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>>134908909
We knew what his skills were before he was released, He had Monstrous Strength C, Natural Body C, Animal Dialogue started at 20% instead of 30% and his NP didn't ignore defense. People thought he was going to be shit but they buffed him when he was released
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>>134909486
his name says evaporated sanity EX
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>>134909486
That's a real nigga, if I ever saw one.
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>>134904354
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best ce for Jeannu ?
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>>134909641
Prisma Cosmos desu
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>>134909641
New Year CE

Keep her alive as long as possible
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>>134909470
>he doesnt hit like a kitten in my party with the two best buffers in the game!
holy shit anon, stop posting
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>>134909781
Jeanne is literally only a 10 because of a gimmick that involves two of her, kill yourself

This entire game is about synergy between servants, there's a fuckton of combinations that make servants broken as shit and there's no reason to ignore that just because of what they lack on their own

And thanks for taking my shit out of context, I clearly stated the buffs referred to his Np damage not normal attacks
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>>134907438
Just Protea, Lip, and Melty counter each other in a rock-paper-scissor relation. Violet doesn't seem to be the weakness of another Alter Ego in particular, but Melty is her natural enemy (probaby due to alignments, personality, tactics or skills, not sure), and Kazura seems to be useless or weak in combat. Though Kazura maybe will work like Andersen or Waver thanks to her skills and NP.
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>>134909781
Gilfag pls
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>>134909486
Maybe his damage will finally break the 10k mark.

>>134909992
Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself. We know hes your first 5*. Just be happy you got one.
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You guys know what you must do
http://www.history.com/news/joan-of-arc-ring-back-in-france-after-600-years-in-u-k

You have a obligation to at least try to summon her by getting this ring.
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>>134910257
But I already got her. Twice.
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>>134909992
>Jeanne is literally only a 10 because of a gimmick that involves two of her, kill yourself
And people wonder why most people consider the tier list to be worthless shitposting.
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>>134910389
Not in real life yet though.
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Passionlip

Presence Concealment = Increase critical star rate by 10.5%
Thrash and Crash = some sort of buff or debuff
Masochistic Constitution = Raise defense and taunt skill

NP
Basically the same as Brynhildr's, except with instant death chance

I don't even know if these would be particular good traits to have in battle, but based on the character these things are likely.
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>>134910249
>10k mark
Have you even used him? He hits 22/23k reliably. I think you're just salty you couldn't roll him. Maybe you could try rolling him again once you get all that dick out of your ass.
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>>134910096
Kazura could have "Heal One ally" skill, "Heal all allies" skill which is harder to spam, remove debuffs, and NP lets you revive one fallen ally. Which will be a rare gimmick that will net her on some teams, yet her attack and defense are abysmal
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>>134910505
She's 3* or 4* material then, just like Byrnhildr.
TFW when my 3* Ushi and 4* Alters are better than some 5*.
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>astolfo has made me more fp in a few hours than p-chan has made all week
It's assassin day why won't they use him?
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>>134910835
People wanting to try the new shiny servant vs a shitty 3*
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>>134910835
Player dont usually use a 3* support.

Sad because Dr.P is good than Astolfo
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>>134910835
Do 3* NPs even clear EXP hands with class advantage?
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>>134911054
The good doctor's can clear all of them, but rider enemies if you use his arts buff.
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More dragon fangs and talons when
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>>134911050
>good than Astolfo
Me too think good.
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>>134911054
Yes, since it tend to be easier to get them to NP5.
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>>134910249
Yeah, sure he is. I see now though you're literally butthurt that he's higher than Gil on an IRRELEVANT tier list, and that shows how autistic you are.
Get a trip so I can filter you
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>>134910758
Biggest tipping point is Thrash and Crash, since that's supposed to be her broken skill, but I have no idea what it would do in this case.

Closest I can figure is some sort of debuff or status ailment.
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>>134911054
Anything can clear exp hands when it's maxed out. People have this weird impression that SRs or SSRs automatically have better NPs, which has been disproven again and again. The difference is that gold cards have far higher stat caps, which doesn't really matter when you're fighting 3 enemies with 30k max HP.

Hell, I've always used Medusa for farming because it's nice to just have something different other than EKUSU-CALIBAH or whatever else for every single fucking round.
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>>134911339
>hey guys he does a ton of damage
>never used him

How about you actually level him and max fou him? Watch how low the damage he outputs. He can't even wave clear silver hands.
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>>134909737
Peace of Year 2016 ? I dont have that ce
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>>134911339
>level 1
Anon, come on now.
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>>134911339
>Lvl 1
kek
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Is the tier list really irrelevant? I heard that account sellers increase the price of accounts with servants higher on that tier list.
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>>134911595
>can't even wave clear silver hands
are you sure brah? I think I saw him doing 11K+ dmg using his NP for trial quest
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>>134910505
>Thrash and Crash
It's an evolved version of Monstrous Strength so 50% increased attack for 3 turns would be reasonable.
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>>134911595
>this screenshot was taken because I accused you of him being shit, I'm the center of the world!

No, I'm serious, kill yourself immediately you have to be like 12
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>>134911595
Not that anon,but he can clear gold hand in 2nd wave somehow.
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>>134911696
No its not irrelevant, it's just butthurt newfags who rolled Amakusa and are trying their hardest to convince themselves he isn't mediocre.
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>>134911729
It may be an evolved version, but its effect is way different than just an attack buff. It'll probably be an attack buff plus enemy debuff skill.
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>>134911696
Tier list is completely irrelevant just like in every other Fate-related entry. There's so much situational shit that it's not even funny, not to mention that the tiers are decided on a servant's solo capabilities despite it being a team-based game where even someone who just started out would be able to get some good team buffs from servants like Shakespeare or Andersen.

The only ones that are accurate are the top 5, shit like Kintoki, Drake, etc. Everything else outside of that is pointless to rate.
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>>134911759
How fucking butthurt are you at you got called out with a LV1 Shirou?
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What page of the book are the nudes on?
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>>134911878
>no it's not irrelevant
>random tier list made by one of the races who are globally known for being shitters at every game
kek you probably use Kintoki
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>>134910257
/fgog/ be honest with all the lewd posting of Jeanne would you honestly go out and make Joan of arc your girlfriend?
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>>134911947
Page 69
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>>134911435
Meltlilith is going to be a glass cannon, she could debuff the enemy and buff herself at the same time and cause serious damage with her noble phantasm, but die after few hits, have low health and standard attack. She doesn't seem that good to me, same as Lip.
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>>134911903
>top 5
>drake

Look again.
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Is there a guy named "MM" here with an Atalanta lead? I want to tell him that he hasn't had a CE equipped for like a week.
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>>134911729
Its evolved form, but evolution isn't just a simple bonus. Its like Magikarp evolving into Gyarados instead.

A skill evolves into an extreme of itself

Being able to petrify things becomes being able to stop time, being very strong becomes the ability to warp space and time with your muscles, absorption becomes the ability to make all things into yourself and poison all things as they become you to EoE tier, and simple self-modification like Hassan or NR has can become the ability to become bigger than stars and planets.
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>>134907797
I need to know if tamamo still loves hakuno! i want to love her damn it!
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>>134911696
The bases on which it rates it's servants is completely wrong
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>>134912051
>but die after a few hit
Sound like Gilles
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>>134912009
She is too pure for me, plus I prefer girls with not so goody goody personalities. But damn it, she's hot.
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>>134912173
I answered you already, faggot.
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>>134911878
It's as relevant as any individual opinion. Putting more weight on it because it's in another language is ridiculous.
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>>134911947
You only get nudes if you subscribe to her newsletter.
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>>134912051
It helps that Alter Egos resist half the classes in the game

Although in the flip side they also take higher damage from the other half.

Its like half Berserker, half Ruler.
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>caring about damage or tiers
>not using the cheatapk so everyone is already strong as fuck
AHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHHAA IM IN LITERAL TEARS THAT FAGGOTS LIKE YOU EXIST
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>>134910835
Because i'm too busy using my Nursery Rhyme and Tamamo and now Weaver, fuck off.
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>>134912085
That's his sub bro. This is his main.
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>>134912274
so does she love other people than hakuno? as anons gave conflicting answers.
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>>134912173
Its the same as Nero, you get a version that is literally the Extra self, and a special version for G/O that only loves new MC.

Pay more attention to your cat already.
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>>134912009
Of course, but I think I will be cockblocked by a God himself.
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>>134912297
So like Beast-class,but weak to Knight-type?
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>people caring about what is or isn't "good"
I've reliably cleared every story and event quest with a team of 3*s. You can play the game with 1*s if you wanted. Anything more than that is pure self-fellatio over how much money you've spent rolling for waifus.
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>>134912446
>you get a version that is literally the Extra self
But that's wrong.

Go back and read her Valentine's scene, and read it carefully.
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>>134912297
It doesn't help that most of the wanked Servants are Sabers, specifically Saberclones. The amount of 5* Sabers in this game is just ridiculous. With so many unbalances they are not going to be top tier, that's for sure.
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>>134912458
Beast and Alter Ego literally mirror each other.
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>>134912504
Go and read Nasu's blog. He is the one that decides these things. He says you're a cuck, then you're a cuck.
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>>134911050
>player dont usually use a 3* support

Thanks for the laugh.
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>>134900846
Jack The Ripper
Astolfo
Kid Gil
Eric Bloodaxe
Spartacus
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>>134912396
Well, if that's true, I guess he can afford to not give a fuck.
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>>134910570
>Have you even used him? He hits 22/23k reliably
Do I have any reason to believe you're not just pulling shit out of your ass?
Basic math suggests that an unbuffed max level max fou amakusa with maxed kaleidoscope would have an average NP1 damage of 10597. Which, granted, usually breaks 10k even with RNG, but is still capable of dealing 4 digit damage, and certainly doesn't hit 22k. Sure, you can layer enough buffs to bring that average damage to 22XYZ, and having a higher NP level makes that a lot easier, but I don't think that's what anon was talking about and I don't think that's a good definition of "reliably"
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>>134912535
>we literally only have 4 Sabers that's not a Seibaclones
>one is time limited
wew lad
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>>134903397
207 quartz saved up for Enkidu.
Might also try rolling for Ozzy and Cleopatra to satisfy my Egypt bias.
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>>134912735
No shit.
I put Robin as lead for fun,and no FP gain from it.
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Nero's attack buff is level 7 and Astolfo's 3rd skill is level 4
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>>134912479
You had me until you sounded like an unlucky faggot mad he can't roll gold
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>>134912714
I meant for Tamamo.

FGO Casko has memories of Extra Casko but they don't feel like they're her own memories. She knows that a version of her loved Hakuno, but she herself doesn't love Hakuno herself.

It's like Tohno Shiki in any route that isn't Akiha's, and/or maybe Hisui's.
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>>134912810
I know, I know, it sucks.
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>>134911339
>5 5*'s

At least if your going to whale, whale properly and at least have 10 5*'s or more newfriend.
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>>134912918
is it explicitly stated?
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>>134912504
>>134912918
I interpreted that event as "Though it is neither my intention or will, my future self will love Hakuno, but the Tamamo of now will still serve you to the best of my ability".
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>>134909992
Jeanne is a 10 because she's the number one most valuable Servant in any difficult fight. Stacking Revelation and Innocent Monster for unlimited stars is just a silly gimmick that turns invulnerability up to eleven.
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>>134912918
Tamamo is a slut who would fuck anyone who summoned her. She hits on Tesla and then on Kintoki. She's not supposed to be waifu material but one night stand and ditch material.
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>>134911339
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>>134913125
>She's not supposed to be waifu material
>Literally desires nothing more than to be a perfect wife

She's loyal, but she's not super picky. It's not like she's going to abandon you for someone else that comes along as long as it's the same "Tamamo."

And if you want to get into it, there's always what that one doujin did.
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>>134912297
>>134912810
Most Servants and 5*s fall into the Knight classes, Alter Egos are going to get wreckt, and they haven't even been released.
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>>134911339
I think the thread unanimously agrees that YOU should get a trip so we can filter YOU.

At lease give us your username so we can delete you from our lists.
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>>134912210
>>134912450
>she's hot

I was talking about the real one guys not the Fate one.
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>>134912210
But the goody goody girls tend to be the most wildest once they are with someone they love.

You wedding night will be insane on so many level.
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>>134913104
Jeanne is going to be fucked with all those invulnerability piercing and debuffers released Servants though. Amakusa boss would shit on her because he can ignore her buffs.
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>>134912784
The retard thinks Amakusa is good because he has Bride and Waver, the two best buffers in the game, actually giving Amakusa damage, when nearly any other 5 star servants in that party would do a ton more damage.
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Odds might be stacked against cavalry classes
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>>134913285
>Literally desires nothing more than to pretend being a perfect wife
Fixed it for you. She is literally a dishonest whore.
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>>134913315
>real one aka 3dpd
Oh shit nigga what are you doing.
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>>134912342
>cheating in a mobile game
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>>134913308
Is there any playable Beast-class in datamine?or was it just Alter Ego?
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>>134913315
She's still hot. I just melt thinking of her. Lights a fire on my heart.
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>>134913285
She will pick whoever is in front of her. She's even trying to cuck one of her friends by trying to molest Golden.
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>>134913383
You keep being retarded. Jeanne does not need to NP to defend against Shirou. Her NP damage reduction skill is more than enough.
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>>134913506
Potentially.

Edmond Dantes didn't sound like an Avenger when he was leaked, you know.
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Who is the best Oji-san and why is it Hector?
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>>134913573
I'm not that fag, I'm saying Jannu users as crutch are fucked in the event vs Shirou.
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>>134913598
His smile! I love him so much.
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Cute. Fuck his third sprite though
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>>134903397
I got who I wanted so I don't ever have to roll again.
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>>134913598
Best character in the Iliad.
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>>134913595
>Edmond Dantes didn't sound like an Avenger when he was leaked, you know.

He's the Opposite Class of Ruler. That's Avenger. How the fuck would the character who symbolizes revenge and vengeance in fiction not be an Avenger?

But there'll be an Assassin version as *5 gacha. Beast is for demonic beings while Alter Egos is for divine beings.
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>>134913530
I don't think she actually wants to fuck Kintoki, just fuck with him.

She'd probably fuck Tesla, tough. It's not like the Tamamo in London has a Master she's trying to waifu for, anyway.
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>>134913905
>when he was leaked

Reading comprehension is important anon.
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>>134914030
Tesla summoned her.
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Does anyone know the name of the song that plays when your on the KnK achievement screen?
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>>134913308
Holy shit Gawain, you went a little bit overboard against her. Poor semi naked Sakura is just there gasping for air with a BFG inside her.
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>>134913905
Are you retarded?

He was on the leak list MONTHS before the KnK event hinted he was an Avenger.
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>>134914147
It's the main motif of KnK movies.
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>>134913062
That's correct. The Tamamo you have knows one day she will find happiness with her true love Hakuno, so she feels conflicted. Is she allowed to love you or should she give up just because you're not the one she's destined to be? She doesn't know the answer, but she knows you are a good person. You placed your life and trust on her, so she will reply to that trust with her own and serve you until the end.
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Get hyped as fuck.


Comes out after Anime Japan so if the OVA is announced it will be discussed in here.
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>>134903397
got all of "why I started this game" servants so... not gonna whale.
However I am really excited to see saber version of Diarmuid, especially after seeing his interude.
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>>134913432

Team Saber is too good compared to the other ones, they win effortlessly.
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>>134913315
The real one is hot too.
Burning hot. On fire, even.
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>>134903397
We need more Jeanne variations
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>>134914260
but the throne is outside of time? linear events don't matter...
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>>134914328
Are there going to be more Servant teasers for the ones that have yet to be released?
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>>134914397
>Jeanne variations
No problem my man.
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50 Cent when?
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So are we getting any GO-original rulers besides alter Jeanne?

I kinda like the idea of an El Cid Ruler but I don't think he counts as a saint.
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>>134914498
that is so random nigger
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>>134913787
Cute as hell, but the butt cape thing is dumb
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>>134914557
Florence Nightingtale,maybe
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>>134914563
We have Kanye all we need is 50 Cent
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>>134914557
Does Nightingale count?
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>>134914473
Odds are they will be starting to hint at the ending as we are getting really close to the end of 1 year.

Would not be surprised if they show Parvati and Ishtar in this.
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>>134913905
>How the fuck would the character who symbolizes revenge and vengeance in fiction not be an Avenger?
Because he could theoretically be summoned in many other classes.
Rider and assassin are obvious choices given his background, while saber, archer and berserker should all be possible if Nasu feels like it.
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>>134914421
Yeah, I think she might be a little mixed up on the subjective order of things because FGO takes place in 2016 while Extra takes place in 2030.

Wibbly-wobbly bullshit confuses the fox whose area of magical expertise is curses.
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Best CE for Mashu?
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>>134914421
She is summoned into the year 2016, and falls in love in the year 2030. The throne prunes the memories of heroes so they don't get confused.
Rather than experiencing the life of her future self, rather, it's just something she knows will happen.
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>>134914806
Zouken.
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>>134914674
What is Waver's expression trying to convey?
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>>134914151
>Poor semi naked Sakura is just there gasping for air with a BFG inside her
That's actually Meltlilith, a dangerous AI that he had to put down.
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>>134914386
Fuck you Scat, you made me laugh.
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>>134914328
The end of this month is looking really good.
>Special "hard" event
>America chapter is coming
>Type Moon Ace vol.11
>April Fools
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>>134914397
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>>134914328
Will this be worth buying?
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>>134914498
I would whale hard for Archer Sento.
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>>134914664
I would be absolutely hype for this.
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>>134914328
Preorders when?
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>>134914718
The real question is what class would Doctor Who be summoned into and what would be his NP?
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>>134915090
Belldandy looks different from what I remember.
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>>134915090
no but you can have stheno
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>>134914664
>Would not be surprised if they show Parvati and Ishtar in this.
Finally time for waifu wars.
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>>134915246
Rider.

His TARDIS and his Sonic Screwdriver.
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>>134914664
>Parvati
You wish.
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>>134915090
Usher > 50 Cent.
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>>134914981
I want her to say whaa whaa like a dog everytime she attacks if she gets into GO. Would be so cute and hot at the same time.
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>>134915310
I feel like I've seen this person before in a blackmail/rape doujin.
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>last order is released
>big endgame event that needs multiple 5*s to even hope to complete
>grail uses are revealed
>Pick a servant to take with you into FGO2, their stats are all reset to lv1, NP1
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>>134914341
What if it's the real Twice who hates fighting
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>>134915296
How would he attack? Projectiles? He doesn't use guns or anything. Plus I think the Tardis and the Sonic Screwdriver would be useless NP since they wouldn't do anything to an enemy. Maybe buffs?
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>>134912274
He asks the same stupid questions every single thread, stop responding to him.
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I see a Marik Ishtar on the friendlist spreadsheet, who is that supposed to be?
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>>134915775
Amakusa
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>>134915775
>being this young
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>>134915775
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>>134913432
How good of a master is Twice anyway? I barely remember Extra
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>>134915310
I don't get this meme, is it because of this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EPM3odPEb4
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>>134913881
>not declaring out loud when you against the gacha
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>>134914824
5 bucks says she will fully fall in love with you once the last interlude happens.
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>>134915901
All of the characters in that anime (and the novels it's based on) are named after rappers.
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Did Gawain poster die?
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>>134915470
Saber Alter will forever be my one true servant of course i'll take her with me.
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Amakusa > Jeannu ?
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>>134914957
Right

I confused her because of the angle, barely visible spiky feet, plus I don't know what they're saying. Nevertheless it's weird to see a girl get killed in such impressive manner.
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>>134915717
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>>134915864
He's a shittier Hakuno, but with the advantage of fighting hundreds of Grail Wars so he levelled up a bunch, .
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>>134916292
My master can beat up your master.
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>>134916212
One is 8.0 and the other one is 10.0. That should tell you enough.
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>>134916079
Wow, I never realized that when I watched the anime. So that's what that video was about.
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>>134916212
No
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>>134915090
Fiddy a cute.
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>>134916153
I really want a Saber Alter but I can never roll her.
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>>134915864
He was a garbage Master lost horribly with Casko and got carried by Buddha later on.
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>>134916292
For someone that likes sweets and candies so much, the plain girl looks quite healthy.
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>>134916484
dead
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a
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>>134916484
F
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>>134916484
>tfw no meido servants ever
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>>134916292
>tfw out of the playable Extra Servants I only have Tamamo
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>>134914957
She's not evil, which even Gawain admits as she earned his respect. However fate couldn't help playing them against each other on opposite sides of the field that day, and for two people that both believe in their ideals on the field of battle, it can only end one way.

Alter Egos don't need to be put down, but as long as you're enemies, you must fight.

One day Alter Egos will be summonable, and we can give them happiness as they fight for the good side finally.
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>>134916484
The grail can bring her back, right?
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>>134915257
>>134915932

Best Jeanne
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>>134916484
The pain will never go away
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>>134916707
but TamamoCat
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>>134916754
>wanted Tamamo
>have both Neros and EMIYA
>want Tamamo even more to complete the Arts team
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>>134916537
I've honestly never got her outside of rate up's. My first time getting her was when she had a rate up with Kintoki, the second was during Saber Wars. You should have rolled when she had a rate up.
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>>134914806
500 years of Obsession.
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>>134916231
she deserved it though, she was planning to destroy the school building and kill gawain (look how her spikes are pointing towards him)
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>>134914341
being too good is exactly why they'll lose, the frontrunner always ends up jobbing
twice in particular is born to lose
My gut feeling is that Illya, sluts, Azaka, and Issei are fatally lacking in protagonist power. Likewise for EMIYA and REGEND, on those teams. So that leaves Team Lancer and Team Rider as possible viable victors, depending on what kind of story this Grail War is. I'm betting on Team Lancer given how many teenage Masters there are.

just a gut feeling, though
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I'm going to break reality and get my waifu tamamo, i need to know if she will love me back though!
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>>134916484
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>>134916901
Wrong meido though.
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>>134917053
Counter force will take you down the moment you try to do so.
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>>134917053
The cat truly loves you.
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>>134916783
>She's not evil
Killing kids is not evil, but saving them is. Who are you, Nasu?
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>>134917156
only if your a threat to humanity remember i dont plan to reach the root or anything like that just hang out with tamamo
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>>134916783
>and we can give them happiness
But Guda(k)o is not the senpai they crave
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>>134916485
>3 different masters
Is Emiya a whore?
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>>134917156
>implying they can stop /a/non

They couldn't do shit against Solomon.
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>>134917217
One wish is not the sum of her behavior or philosophical drive.
If you want to save children and murder anyone who looks at you funny, you're probably not good.
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>>134917053
I don't think so.
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>>134917284
You forgot Medea.
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>>134917226
They deserve better than Hakuno, plus they pretty much are made to fall in love with a generic hero-ish protagonist.
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>>134917284
It's kinda ironic that he has never shown any love for either of them at all. I guess he's still in love with Saber.
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>>134915852
Why is that duel disk on backwards?
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>>134917284
>>134917423
EMIYA a manslut confirmed
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>>134917284
A slut for Saber.
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>>134917423
Also the world when summoned for janitor duty.
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>>134917467
He's from the 1600s, cut him some slack.
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>>134917407
why would the counterforce attack back? i mean jeanne seems perfectly fine after she got the fuck out of the throne.
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>>134917407
nuthin personnel
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Why did EMIYA use a gun in his seigi no mikata days if he has a OP ass bow, K&B, and UBW?
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>>134917638
>showing off your magic
Also, guns are cool
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>>134917638
Because you don't want to attract attention by killing someone with a bow from two kilometers away.
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>>134917638
Showing off your magic to muggles isn't exactly a good idea.
Also because it looks cool.
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>>134917748

He can just hypnotize people like waver can though.
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>>134917638
>Kanshou/Byakuya
Why he would even use that to assasinate shit
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>>134917638
Guns fit the James Bond pantydropper image better than magic bows and swords
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>>134917638
That's only Extra Emiya though
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>>134917638
360 noscoping a fool is infinitely cooler than using any of that other shit
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>>134917884
Unless you're telling me he has seen a sword that induces hypnosis, no he can't. He can't even perform the most basic of non-sword-related magecraft.
He's a reality marble user, not a real magus, to begin with.
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>>134917732

>calamity Jane is the only gun servant remaining in leaked list

More when?

>Inb4 EMIYA assassin

He'll have a quick NP with a. Aaabq deck, since it's impossible for EMIYA to get a arts NP.
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>>134917610
noone? wouldn't the counterforce just ignore you if you just did 'absurbly complicated ritual to get tamamo out of throne'
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>>134917945
For a close combat assassinations.
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>>134917496
Yes, he cooks for her, doesn't he? Alter bitches about it and MHX gets Guts from his rice.
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>>134917425
Read their bios, I get the joke but the irony is that its the opposite. They like someone who isn't at all like a hero, they would hate Shirou for example.

Nasu says Hakuno's charm in the data book is that he's not at all like a hero, he's just an average fuck. Yet because he's an average fuck but he still tries his best for you, despite having no heroic or white horse quality, it means more. Since for a hero to save people, it means nothing, its expected of you. For a normal person to help people, it has to mean something.

This is even something BB talks about in her final monologue.
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>>134918095
Billy the Kid
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>>134918095
Billy the Kid?
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Shirou is going to be a Demi Servant. Avenger/Angra. Nasu considers him the first demi Servant. He's just not in control.
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>>134918068
No, actually, he can do basic non-sword-related magecraft, but only basic one, and not very good.
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>>134918095
>More when?

Billy the Kid

There are 6+ gun servants now

>>134917959
It isn't though, Nasu says their histories line up aside from one or two points.
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>>134918243
>>134918234
billy the kid was famous for whip idiots not gun
he's fucking shit with gun
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>>134918190
Yes, and he loves it, even when he pretends he doesn't.
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>>134918234
>>134918243

>using a 3*

>>134918325

Angra mainly Shirou is already on the leaked list
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>>134918195
Melty loves Archer though.
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Why is no one ever complained about Davido-kun Buster NP like they do about Emiya?
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>>134918325
You're thinking of Pseudo servants

Also Pseudo servants usually don't have the human host in control, that's just something particular to Zhuge Liang since he hates everyone. We've seen four or five pseudo servants to date, such as Jeanne.

>>134918460
Archer isn't Shirou anymore, he not too heroic or doesn't consider himself a hero. He's willing to do some questionable shit his younger self wouldn't do.
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>Astolfo usually generates around 40 stars in a quick chain with his third skill at level 4
That doesn't sound too bad actually
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>>134918337
Not even. F/SN makes it quite clear that all his circuits are aligned towards casting only one spell, and that "reinforcement", "alteration", "analysis", and "projection" are merely subsets of only one versatile spell, "Unlimited Blade Works". All 27 circuits are only designed to do one thing; give form to his internal world.
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>>134918514

It's a meme the anti emiya fag is pushing, ignore it.
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>>134918368
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>>134918390
He's living a chuuni dream and he's surrounded by Arturias.
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>>134916996
>(look how her spikes are pointing towards him)
Just noticed that her thighs are pretty much hurt, filled it scratches and wounds, which means that her attack wasn't made in perfect conditions. She should have attacked with her knees totally extended, and not bending them to make harder for Gawain to attack her with his sword. Using the knees to attack, closed the distance between them and gave more openings that allowed him to use his sword.
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>>134918368
In regards to fame, wasn't he most famous for escaping a prison in the dead of night on horseback? Not really shooting.
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He's practically unstoppable
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They say that this game is easy. really can finish London with my underlevel servanst
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>>134918580
He was learning something with Rin and in the Clock Tower.
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>>134918570
>need to relied on a RNG based skill
absolutely disgusting
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>>134918514
David skillset which is tons better
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>>134918858
>Scathach
>Nero
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>>134918195
Just noticed that they cancelled their Live Tours, probably because they died.
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>>134918570
How many does his Q as the third card make with his buff up?
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>>134918953
or that CCC was pushed back a few times due to Nasu rewriting everything.
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>>134918570
atalanta's existence makes astolfo completely worthless, even if you're poor the welfare kintoki CE will make her godly
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>>134918564
>that's just something particular to Zhuge Liang since he hates everyone
u wot m8
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>>134918160
If i do break reality i would just go with the 'complicated magic ritual' option instead
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Guys I wanna get EAM in real life what do I do?
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>>134918823
Nasu clarified he was never actually going to learn anything except how to sword better. (i.e. like any non-idiot he masters his talent and doesn't try to learn what he fundamentally cannot)

>GJ: I have a question about Fate characters. How high (or low) are the talents of Emiya Shirou and Tohsaka Rin within the entire history of the Association?
>Nasu: Rin really is a genius. Given time, she'll enter within the top 100 magi of the Association throughout its entire history. Shirou won't move out from being an magus apprentice, but as a spell-user, he'll be among one of the big specialists. Ultimately, he'll receive an evaluation on the same level as "Magus Killer" Emiya Kiritsugu had in his peak, maybe. If I were to put into simple numbers, Ciel: 100, Rin: 70-100, Shirou: 10 (under particular limited conditions, then 40).
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>>134919021
Guy always just wanted to hang out in the woods. Only reason he stopped doing that is because the one guy he ended up liking kept coming to see him to get him to join their fight.

He's similar to Waver in that respect; they're both smarter than you foul-mouthed guys who hate almost everyone aside from one larger than life king guy.
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>>134919134
Fuck your own mother.
Then fight your father and relatives using chopstick
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>>134919230
What rank of EAM would Oedipus have?
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>>134918564
>Pseudo servants usually don't have the human host in control
And what's the point in some sumerian whore or indian slut in that case?
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>>134919157
Wasn't that pretty old? Flat's existence blew out everyone of his generation (that includes Rin and Luvia) the fuck out because he's the actual prodigy. Even if he's an idiot.
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>>134918582
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Sion best girl.
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Roastbeef best sandwich.
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>>134919449
Flat's probably top 10 material while Rin is top 100.

Ciel is still probably #1 because her body is supermagic material, a complete monstrosity.
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>>134919458
Kamen Rider really needs to go back to simpler designs, like Agito, Faiz, or Kabuto.
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>>134919608
We have no fucking clue about Flat's circuits. We know he's kind of ridiculously OP to compensate his utter lack of common sense.
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>>134919351
Just like with Joan, the human host is still part of the equation that influences the servant, but the human usually isn't in control at least.

Shirou's personality influenced Avenger, and Latecia was always talking to Joan in her head. You'll probably have my room lines where they're talking to their other personality on occasion.

People will probably complain either way; if the human is in control then "What was even the point? I wanted Ishtar or Pavarati", if the servant is in control of the body "What was even the point then? I wanted Rin or Sakura", if its a fused personality entirely "This is still bad". Just enjoy whatever comes from it rather than sweating it.
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Currently in bone hell for leveling skills. Is there any map with a decent drop rate for the damn things? I've been trying Fuyuki since it's all skeletons but all they've been doing is clogging my shit up with 1* exp.
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>>134919789
Assassin Daily I guess
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>>134919340
E.
His father is a faggot and that the only shit he killed
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>>134918564
Nasu calls them Demi Servants: Shirou and Angra, Laeticia and Jeanne. This was back in Apocrypha.
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>>134919940
Sounds about right.
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>>134919021
The only person he'll talk to is Liu Bei.
Liu Bei isn't around, so he fucks off and goes to sleep.
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>>134919206
Waver doesn't hate everyone though. He loves the Canadian couple who adopted him as grandkid in Japan. He also cares a lot about his students in the Clock Tower. He's just a big tsundere, but he's not an antisocial person at all.
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>>134919996
Demi-servant is Mashu, Demi-Servant is when a normal human has the power of a servant, but not the spirit of one. Galahad before he dematerialized just gave her his shit, and left. So now she's a gimped half-copy of a hero, but does not have the rest of him.

Pseudo Servant is Zhuge Liang, Pseudo Servant is actively sharing the body of a human, or has the spirit of the hero in some way.

Technically HF Shirou would be a pseudo servant, because we do see Archer's spirit within him during one scene.
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Dead and forgotten
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>>134920327
>they can free themselves
pretty jelly
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I had no idea what David's personality was like before this. It feels like I'm watching Woody Allen play his typical cringey perpetually anxious whining character.
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>>134920327
I'd kill for those servants.
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>>134920327
>Okita 51/60
How the fuck can this happen?
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>Wherever is Krishna, the lord of yoga; and wherever is Arjuna, the archer; there will be everlasting prosperity, victory, happiness, and morality.
Why did Nasu make him evil?
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>>134920685
Just think. There are countless inactive accounts with Okitas, Arturias, and Kintokis never to be used again. All those servants who just wanted to collect friend points for their mastah, but will never get the chance.
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>>134920846
He's not "evil" he's a shithead trying to be good.
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>>134920618
He's this kind of guy

>"So basically, we're both in the same boat, right? Your bankruptcy means my bankruptcy...Ah, but my bankruptcy's mine alone, so if that time ever comes, please cut your ties with me."
>"You look like you have some interesting stories to tell. Why don't you tell one?"
>"The Holy grail huh. Ah well I'm fine. I'm not too interested in that"
>"What do I like? I'm full of desire so I rather enjoy women and money. And with multiple wives it's even better."
>"What do I hate? Hmm....I don't really like fighting. It's true you can receive many favors from it, but I can't bring myself to like it. I'm sure you feel the same way about guys who go around carrying stones while pushing down the seal when signing a contract, right?!"
>"Let's go on an journey!"
>"Even though I may be a former king you have nothing to worry about. No I truly don't want you to worry. As a Servant I would like to be a sheperd"
>"Yeah, I want to maximize my efficiency, so I can receive something even when I'm not doing anything."
>"Eh is there something you need?"
>"I'd be really grateful if you could give me a massage"
>"*I would like for us to be on equal footing. May I touch you?*"
>"Looks like someone's doing a get-rich-quick scheme. Wanna give it a try?".

The kind of guy who comes up with crazy get rich quick schemes for fun, before you know it he has two losers doing all the work for him while he sits back relaxing all day.
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>>134920263
Demi Servant is the phrase Nasu used for Shirou and Laeticia, man.
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>>134919047
I NEED TO KNOW why the counterforce would kill me even though im not threatening humanity
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>>134920846
Not evil, just chuuni

He's got hidden dark side that he fights often.

>>134920990
I guess he decided to classify it differently later on, or clarify it a bit. He's pretty good at squeaking shit like this by since he never explains anything. It still could be this way or that way, but he certainty doesn't want to hold himself to it enough to say it.
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>>134920618
I would be anxious if I somehow lost the Ark and was trapped in an island with some kind of Furry.
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>>134921109
You are threatening to reproduce.
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>>134919047
counterforce didn't do shit when Jeanne broke he throne to get dragondick.

counterforce are the worst and most useless fuckers next to gaia and her gang.
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>>134919789
I'm also in bone hell trying to level Shiki and Tamamo skills.
To me the Fuyuki maps are pretty decent though, give me about 1 bone every 3-4 runs on avarage.
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>>134921318
On Herc's stage?
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>rolled Shakespeare
>decided to keep him this time
>immediately start to lvl up his first skill
>lvl 10 at

Am I going to regret this? Can he be useful with Karna?
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>>134921315
Think of it as a flow chart

Did this action actually put the root or anything important in danger? No, then it didn't do shit really. It didn't care if Jeanne fucked off probably.
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>>134921407
Shakespeare is useful as support with any Buster oriented Servant. The best use for bronze are their support utility and then there's Mata Hari who sucks.
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>>134921315
Look at this useless fuck
>hey Aoko pls don't go to root
>im just stay over here you can be wizard over there
>just don't go pls
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>>134921407
He's the best support for a Buster team if you don't have Gil
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>>134921217
The thought of people that play F/GO reproducing IS very threatening.
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>>134921520
Yes, pretty useless. That's why humanity is wiped out in 2016 and the deployed Beasts of Alaya fell under Dantes' thralls.
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>>134921407
He's useful to anyone with a Buster NP. I have mine at Level 1 but with skill maxed so I can use the battle suit to switch him in, use his buff and let him die.
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>>134921315
than why did someone suggest i would get killed for breaking tamamo out for fox pussy?
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>>134918650
her legs may have been hurt a bit, but that didn't lower dramatically the strength of her attack.

as a servant, her thighs and knees are more resistant and stronger than they look. what weakened her was the fact that she couldnt use skill or her noble phantasm

besides, her sister aided her by launching her with immense force... right into the enemy's sword.

well, you're right about her choosing a wrong position to attack, but she needed to be killed off b the author fast.
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>>134921407
Yes, Enchant is very powerful. I usually put him in the back row and swap him in to buff an np buster chain. His own offensive power is rather low, so I usually put a CE with a taunt effect on him or 2030.
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>>134921383
The 5 AP X-D map.
Just dont lose hope even if you get no bone from successive runs, it will drop eventually.
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how does Divinity or "increase overall damage" skills work?
is it flat addition to damage per hit or just bonus attack?
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>>134920986
>king of jews is stereotypical jew

Sasuga Nasu
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>>134921849
>X-D
Get out.
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>>134921658
>and the deployed Beasts of Alaya fell under Dantes' thralls.
Is there a translation or a synopsis for the garden of order event anywhere?
Those invincible ghosts were straight up counter guardians?
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>>134911054
Anon, I can clear EXP hands even with Shakes, 3*s sure can. Granted I have him maxed and also has the Heaven's Feel CE, but still.
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>>134920263
>because we do see Archer's spirit within him during one scene.
Nine Bullet Revolver? I'm pretty sure that's not Archer's actual spirit, but rather a manner for Shirou's subconscious to motivate his conscious mind to take control of Archer's arm.

Or something. I'm a little too preoccupied with that Go game to analyze Fate as much as I could.
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Once in a while I like to just take a step back and consider the general outline of where the plot is, and I find that the sillier it sounds when summed up, the more fun I'm having.

"Francis Drake is looking for the Ark of the Covenant along with the Gorgon Euryale for the express purpose of flipping the bird to Jason of the Argonauts, and we are now listening to the goddess Artemis telling everyone about her harlequin-novel fantasies of Orion coming to her at night and fucking her silly."

See? This is a good chapter.
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>>134922061
>Nine Bullet Revolver?

Look at the image, pic was related.

Nine Bullet Revolver is all about how he surpassed Archer, although Archer's spirit was also with him in that moment goading him forward.
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>>134921864
It adds the damage at the very end, so it isn't effected by attack buffs or debuffs.
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>>134922127
That's part of the reason I like CCC
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>>134911054
My setup for farming hands is just Fran, Kiyo and something with the 3-turn taunt CE. Kiyo clears the second wave with NP alone, but needs to attack the 30k health Hand in the third wave once if she wants to clear that wave
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>>134921849
Then again the drop rate sometimes is shitty af even for me.
There's tons of skeleton maps, pick your poison wisely.
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>>134921954
>Those invincible ghosts were straight up counter guardians?

No, and I'd appreciate if people would stop repeating that retarded fanwank.

"Degraded copies of the Beast of Alaya." That's the line. In case everyone repeating this hasn't been paying attention, that's exactly what every fucking Servants are.
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>>134921921
That's the name of the map level you idiot.
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>>134922470
>>134921921
Are we stealing this meme from /vp/ now
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>>134922447
So basically half-assed counter guardian skeletons. Still probably higher on the totem than a typical servant since they were (by the storyline's reckoning) unkillable without the MEoDP.
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>>134921969
That spear that Ko-Gil summons on the right always bothers me because it looks pixelated as fuck.
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>>134910835
>Now Astolfo leader who was previously the doctor

Wait. By any chance, is your Astolfo using the Twice CE?
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>>134922590
It's /a/ now too
E.g.
"Highschool DxD"

">xD
Get out"
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>>134922610
It wasn't about the power, but rather the fact that the flow of butthurt kept regenerating them in a Wallachia-ish way
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>>134922760
Not to mention people doing it to XDCC for years.
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>>134922746
Yup
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>>134922843
>XD
Get out
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>going from 3 fangs to 12 with 162 AP in Okeanos
You know, that ain't too bad.
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>>134922921
>>134922843
>>134922760
lol so funny
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>>134922969
>lol
fuck off
>>
SEMEN
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>>134923041
>spamming some retard meme
>tells people to fuck off

eat shit my man
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>>134922958
>Spent 12 apples grinding dragon fangs in France to max ascend Alter back in the day
>I now have 140 of the stupid things because events keep dumping them on me and I'm too autistic not to buy them.
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>>134923274
I wish I have 140 dragon fangs ;_;, these skills cost man.
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Wait what? She remembers Orleans? How the fuck is that possible?
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>>134919789
I've seen anons recommend Germania so I've been grinding it, it seems pretty good considering how bad drop rates can be.
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>>134923472
So is almost everyone at the point where you guys are just leveling up skills?
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>>134923575
Pretty much.
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>>134923575
I have tons of materials for skills, but I'm extremely lacking in QP. 50m to max out one skill is so fucking stupid.
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>>134923575
Pretty much that and FP gacha servants
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>>134923491
Same reason every servant remembers they really stop caring about that rule plus the time travel worlds haven't disappeared yet as the interludes have showed.
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>>134923575
Most of the people who have stuck around since launch or so, probably.

Though there's the option, once you get to that point, to start investing in more low-rarity Servants, either for fun or for quartz. I don't think anyone here's going that route, though.
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>>134923491
Chaldea summoning works differently

You remember all your previous summonings
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>>134923575
>horseshoe hell

such is the life of a shitter who's still stuck in orleans after 1 month of playing
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>>134923810
AMERICA WILL FREE US, BROTHER.

>>134922610
No, what buffed them was Dantes' powers (he channeled grudges power or something).
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>>134900663
Shiki can take all of them easily.
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odds go out
evens stay at home
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>>134923737
>they really stop caring about that rule plus the time travel worlds haven't disappeared yet as the interludes have showed.

That's not how it works

There are infinite worlds, but there's only one throne. The same servant summoned in one part of the franchise, is exactly the same servant summoned in another part of the franchise. Even if its an entirely different world-line, its the same one. The throne summons you all throughout the different world-lines.

Archer in F/SN is not Shirou from any world-line within F/SN, but he's still here.
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>>134923575
No,i am leveling some Bronzes
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>>134923746
>I don't think anyone here's going that route, though.
>neglecting silver and bronze servants
Kuso
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>>134923746
Actually I'm leveling low servants right now, just in case they turn out to be useful in a future event again.
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>>134924000
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>>134922447
>that's exactly what every fucking Servants are.

Except there aren't. Go and fucking read Fate/side material. Not every Servant or Heroic Spirit is a Beast of Alaya. EMIYA is one of the few exceptions.
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>>134924000
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>>134924050
Once I max the relevant skills on a few of my Servants I've got a plan to invest in some silvers. Which skills I'm going to do is still not set in stone, though.

Bronzes that aren't Hassan, as far as I'm concerned right this second, can go fuck themselves.
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>>134923643
>>134923705
>>134923746
Well I would do the same but i'm just leveling up my remaining servants to their max level since I usually get lazy to do so once I max ascend them.
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>>134924000
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>>134923575
I've only mastered one servant so far. I have buckets of materials, but grinding out exp is so tiresome for me.
I should at least raise Jeanne for the upcoming "hard event" since a Ruler can take all comers, but I am so weary of exp grinding after getting a single person to 90.
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>>134924115
What the hell do you think "Beast of Alaya" means? Are you saying all the talk about Grand Servants and their stated purpose was an elaborate joke?
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>>134924000
Neat
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>>134924000
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>>134924183
>Bronzes that aren't Hassan, as far as I'm concerned right this second, can go fuck themselves.
No love for Andersen? No love for Shakespeare? No love for REGEND?
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>>134924115
Servants, as a rule, are copies of the counter force hero summoning system.
That's been stated as recently as the end of London.
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>>134924317
Grand Servants aren't part of the Counter Force, Solomon himself has nothing to do with Alaya. Solomon looks down anyone who relies on external forces to raise as Heroic Spirit.
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>>134923575
I still have several people I want to level before worrying about skill cookie farming.
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>>134924394
I'd rather do some silvers like Medea, Paracelsus, or Jing Ke.

The only reason I included Hassan was because I ALREADY maxed his level, back before Carmilla was decent.
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>>134924403
No, they aren't. Are you clinging into Shit translations by BL again?
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>>134924183
>Bronze that arent Hassan
Andersen,George and Mozart is even better.

Especially Andersen,which is top of Bronze now
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>>134924421
>Grand Servants aren't part of the Counter Force
How could anyone possibly come to this conclusion?
Andersen literally said they are made to save the human world. That is literally the counter force, Alaya.
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>>134924551
Why level Mozart when you can leave him at level 1 with a level 10 Arts buff skill?
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>>134924530
Are you clinging to the terrible mistranslation that Solomon was "summoned by the root" again?
Because that's not what Roman said at all.
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>>134924520
>Chinese Shiki
swiggity swoo here's your (you)
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>>134924421
pretty fucking ironic when he has precognition from god and the ability to shut down all magecraft again from GOD
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>>134924627
For that sick-looking mask
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>>134924678
She's the only silver Assassin.

We all know Jekyll is really a Berserker.
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>>134924583
>Andersen literally said they are made to save the human world

Yes, and? Did you miss what Solomon said afterwards or do you have selective reading?

>That is literally the counter force, Alaya.

Same purpose, but the difference is that they are independent forces. There's a reason why Solomon explicitly says NOBODY except himself made him a Heroic Spirit and he summons himself. He's an independent force, and he looks down to anyone who needs a force buffing them (he's shitting on the Counter Force).
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>>134924292
Just play some music in the background and use servants that wipe out the enemies in one turn and you'll farm exp easy. But yeah am in the same boat as you but I get lazy to level up my servants to 90 once I max ascend them.
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>>134924723
It does look pretty sick.
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>>134924769
Grand Servants are probably SUPPOSED TO BE the Counter Force, or part of it, but Solomon is fucking the system and went rogue.
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>>134924675
Huh? Solomon summoned himself. He raised with his own power. That's what Solomon said.

Also to be part of the Counter Force, according to Nasu, you need to enter to the Throne of Heroes, buffed by Alaya. Which is the opposite of Solomon who did so by his own power and merit, and who summons himself.
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>>134924079
>>134924120
>>134924263
>>134924334
>>134924350
Well, it's raining too.

>tfw only has Orion as the gold archer
Who is the best #3 Archer?
Or should I just level up Orion?
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>>134924769
>Yes, and? Did you miss what Solomon said afterwards or do you have selective reading?
What, the part where he agrees completely?
>Same purpose, but the difference is that they are independent forces. There's a reason why Solomon explicitly says NOBODY except himself made him a Heroic Spirit and he summons himself. He's an independent force, and he looks down to anyone who needs a force buffing them (he's shitting on the Counter Force).
He's talking about himself, right now. Not Grand Servants as a concept. He's essentially saying "I'm not deployed by the counter force but doing this on my own". That doesn't mean the purpose of Grand Servants wasn't built by the counter force, but merely that he's acting on his own interests and not "fulfilling his original mission as Grand Caster".
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>>134924928
All 3* except Euryale
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>>134924928
Artemis is cute. David is best 3* archer.
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>>134924881
No, they aren't. Again, are you clinging to a stupid bad translation from BL? They AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE the Counter Force.

Counter Force is composed of people who entered in the Throne of Heroes helped and buffed by Alaya. It's in their fucking description in KnK and Fate/side material, retard. Solomon, a Grand Servant, just explained to you that UNLIKE inferior Heroic Spirits, he got elevated as Heroic Spirit by his own power and he summons himself. The complete opposite to what Alaya forces are by Nasu's definition.
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>>134924928
It's still an Archer with 5* stats. If you can afford those ascension items, then yes..
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>>134924769
>Same purpose, but the difference is that they are independent forces.

No they're not. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you somehow going full retard and thinking Solomon's situation is normal and working as intended?
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>>134925081
>Hearts
Eh, I'd rather spend them for someone else.

>>134925008
>>134925039
David it is then.
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>>134924897
Yes, he is summoned by himself, and that's why he's looking down on servants who are called by others. He is not looking down on the counter force as a concept, he's looking down on the Holy Grail War system and its Masters.
You don't need the counter force to enter the throne of heroes, worship does that on its own. You can bet Angra Mainyu wasn't buffed by Alaya at all.
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>>134924897
>Also to be part of the Counter Force, according to Nasu, you need to enter to the Throne of Heroes, buffed by Alaya. Which is the opposite of Solomon who did so by his own power and merit, and who summons himself
Wrong so very wrong if you can't understand what's being said then don't post your headcanon.
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>>134924935
>What, the part where he agrees completely?

No, you actually don't know a shit about what he says, huh? He's using that as example to show the difference between shitty Heroic Spirit (counter force) and Grands, like himself.

No, he's talking about Grand Servants, with himself as example. Go and fucking read what the Counter Force is. I'm tired of newfags throwing Nasuverse names and labels without reading what Nasu wrote the counter force as like. Heracles, for instance, not in a billion years would be part of Alaya's Counter Force.
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>>134924928
You misunderstood, you little shitbird. People are making fun of you for posting doublesshit.
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>>134925078
See >>134925138

Do you think Solomon is normal, you fucking moron? despite the fact that he's doing the exact opposite of what the entire system is ultimately meant to do?
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>>134925078
I never said Alaya. I said Counter Force, which applies to both sides, and might apply to other things like the Root itself.

What the fuck is the raison d'etre of the Grand Servants if they aren't part of SOME Counter Force?
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>>134925235
>being this mad someone get trips
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>>134925230
>No, he's talking about Grand Servants, with himself as example.

No, he's just talking about himself, you idiot. Are you seriously so fucking hung up on fanfiction that you read about how Grands are components of a system to protect humanity from destruction and the assumed the guy who wiped out humanity is a typical manifestation of that system working as it's supposed to?
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>Counter Force [Others]
>Normally, the Counter Force empowers "a normal person" to remove the factor that can trigger destruction. As a result, these individuals are worshiped as "Heroes".
>Individuals who became Heroes through the aspect of Alaya are said to be integrated into Alaya after death. However, the accuracy of this statement is uncertain.
>These individuals are also called Counter Guardians. The emphasis here is "Counter", because they have no autonomy and will only activate in response to an event.

Secondaries, please go. Solomon cannot be part of this Counter Force, because he pretty much stated he didn't get any buff and by his own power became a Heroic Spirit. Secondly, Nasu once again points out in F/sm that not all Heroic Spirits are members of the Counter Force. Are you just pretending to be retarded?
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>>134925385
Did you just find out about 4chan? Postnumbers shit died about 4 years ago, scatterbrain.
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>>134925235
I don't really care.
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>EOPs telling other EOPs they are wrong
>both sides don't know what they are talking about
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>>134925480
>>134925235
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>>134925247
See >>134925479

Solomon is Grand Caster, retard. Then if he's not part of the Counter Force, none of the Grands can be. You're assuming they are, when the truth is that the only Grand we know isn't.
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>>134925479
You're trying to accuse people of conflating Grand Servants with Counter Guardians when nobody's actually saying they're the exact same thing.
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>>134924928
3* archers are mostly good, but Robin and David are especially awesome
Robin NP1 can Nuke any boss repeatedly with ease and David is welcomed into any team
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>>134925561
>posts smug meme when you're under battery

that's not how it works, newblood
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>>134925230
He explicitly calls himself a part of a system designed to save the human world, and that servants are a bastardization of that. Solomon says this, not Andersen. What is that if not the counter force?
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>>134925078
>Counter Force is composed of people who entered in the Throne of Heroes helped and buffed by Alaya.

The human counterforce is simply an invisible reactionary force made out of the collective human subconsious drive for survival. The Throne and the entire Heroic Spirit system are tools of that force, not the force itself. The same way primate Murder is the Beast of Gaia, so are heroic spirits the Beasts of Alaya; they're tools of the force, not the force itself.

For someone who's lashing out at people "not reading the source material", you sure say some dumb shit.
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>>134925479
>Q: What kind of role does the World give to Heroic Spirits that aren't Guardians (Counter Guardians)? Also, what do magi call people with high divinity or are closer to the planet?

>A: Heroic Spirits that aren't Guardians are simply treated as traditions that lend power to the later people. Those that became closer to the planet don't mix well with people so they fall into the categories of Divine Spirits and Elementals.

>Heroic Spirits [Circumstances]
>The Heroes who achieved great deeds and were worshiped after death became Heroic Spirits.
>They were the greatest existences amongst the forces that safeguarded humanity. In terms of classification, they were not Wrath, but closer to Faeries.
>Faeries were materialized forces using the imagination of humans as framework, while Heroic Spirits were woven purely from the ideals of humans through and through.
>Amongst Heroic Spirits, there were ones who existed in legends, ones who actually lived, and ones who were never observed. Those who were rarely worshiped were included in the classification of "Counter Guardians", and were utilized as an unconscious Counter Force.
>In the Heroic Spirits in this story, only Archer functioned as a Counter Guardian.
>Other Heroic Spirits were aligned with the planet rather than humanity, due to their high divinity. Counter Guardians were not within this category.
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>>134925650
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OH SHIT THE NEW LEAKED SERVANT WILL BIE A SNIPE-
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>>134925480
I know about that, anon.
Why are you so mad?
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>>134925739
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>>134925603
Your wrong also before anyone says anything yes their are quite a few mistranslation here.
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>>134925609
Counter Guardians are the label NASU gives to Heroic Spirits who are part of the Counter Force. Are you trying to be retarded now, anon? THAT is the Counter Force.
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>>134925525
Welcome to 4chan.
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>>134925778
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>>134925479
Wow, you're blind. Do you not see the word "normally" in front of that?
Not all factors of the counter force are "enhance this human to stop impending calamity". There are other systems.
Read the full context of the thing you're quoting. Alaya is the will for humans to continue to exist, which is what Solomon said the grand servants are made to fulfill.
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>>134925858
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>>134925706
See >>134925738
>>134925479

They are only the ones who got buffed by Alaya and became heroes, like Jeanne or EMIYA.
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What is this?
project-cosmos.jp
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>>134925834
>Counter Guardians are the label NASU gives to Heroic Spirits who are part of the Counter Force.
That's an assumption.

Counter Guardians being Heroic Spirits that the Counter Force uses does not mean that ALL Heroic Spirits that the Counter Force uses are Counter Guardians.
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>>134925898
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>>134925479
>Secondaries, please go. Solomon cannot be part of this Counter Force
>>134925603
>Then if he's not part of the Counter Force

Are you fucking retarded or what? No, really. Are you trolling? The whole point of Grand Servants is flat-out stated to be as protectors of humanity, from which the Servant system was copied.

What, is there an entirely different force seeking to preserve humanity that only you know about and is responsible for the Grand Servants, or are you actually so fucking stupid that you're pretending Solomon is a normal example of how the system works? He's not a "Counter Guardian", but that's only one aspect of how the heroic spirit system is utilized. Are you just conflating all these terms like an idiot or something? What do you think Heroic Spirits are for?
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Wait? The Counter Force can flow into normal people turning them into heroes. They don't need to be CGs to receive the CF. They can become CG after death because they received the CF during life.
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>>134925194
Orion is the best 5* archer.
But still probably worse than David.
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>>134925834
Read the full fucking term you're quoting. Context is important.

>Counter Force [Others]
>The Counter Force here is the safety device formed by the collective unconsciousness.
>The prayer to avert the demise of mankind, Alaya.
>And the prayer to extend the life of the planet, Gaia.
>These are the two aspect of the Counter Force.
>Both aspects have the goal of extending the existence of the current World. They will eradicate the factors that threaten to destroy the World at the moment of their occurance.
>Since the Counter Force is the unconscious, its appearance draws no attention, and no one will recognize it.
>The Counter Force is a formless spiral of power. It adjusts its scale based on the target that needs to be obliterated. The Counter Force will always appear with a status above the target, enough to absolutely secure a victory.
>Normally, the Counter Force empowers "a normal person" to remove the factor that can trigger destruction. As a result, these individuals are worshiped as "Heroes".
>Individuals who became Heroes through the aspect of Alaya are said to be integrated into Alaya after death. However, the accuracy of this statement is uncertain.
>These individuals are also called Counter Guardians. The emphasis here is "Counter", because they have no autonomy and will only activate in response to an event.

The counter force is not just heroes, heroes are just one primary system of the counter force. The counter force Alaya is a formless vortex that tries to keep humans alive, and it has more than that one system to do so.
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>>134925824
Yes, skip all the stuff Solomon says about himself. Sure that translator is great.

>selected by the root
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>>134926019
There are Heroic Spirits that are so high in divinity, Alaya cannot in any way summon them for Counter Force duties in the service of humanity's survival/cleanup.
Not all HS are Beasts of Alaya, since some of them fall under the Beasts of Gaia distinction.
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So with all these shit talk on marik its 1000% he will be overbuffed like waver did.

Post your prediction on post buff skill and np.
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>>134926216
Why is your countdown eight hours ahead of mine?

Are you in Europe?
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>>134926058
>Normally, the Counter Force empowers "a normal person" to remove the factor that can trigger destruction. As a result, these individuals are worshiped as "Heroes".
>Individuals who became Heroes through the aspect of Alaya are said to be integrated into Alaya after death. However, the accuracy of this statement is uncertain.
>These individuals are also called Counter Guardians.

It says right there the Counter Guardians are the humans who were empowered to become Heroes. What is only ambiguous is that if those who are worshiped as heroes are part of the Counter Force or not (and the example they used in KnK was Jannu).

Again, Solomon's case is complete opposite because he takes a huge dump on those normalfags losers who needed Alaya to buff them. He didn't explicitly said so, but we all know who he was talking about when he smuggly claimed he rose as hero by his own might and strength and he summoned himself out death at will.
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>>134925936
You're just pointing at random text without addressing jack shit. Do you actually fucking think Solomon is doing what grand Servants are supposed to do and that they're all autonomous? What, the system is just seven people who got together and decided to call themselves that completely unrelated to the counterforce, despite the fact that it's explicitly stated that the counterforce is behind them? What the fuck do you think 抑止力 means?
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>>134926216
What the hell is that? The background looks like Extra's background. What does it mean? What's coming once the time runs out?
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So literally where are we going with the story right now?
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>>134926262
Np does super effective on all class.
Np up skill now also give np to whole party
Crit star skill now also has 3 turn party atk up
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>>134926342
Is there even any guarantee it has anything to do with TM?
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>>134926324
No, what I'm saying is that fags took what some retard translator mistranslated with is full of mistakes and tried to run with it, thinking it was applying to Grand Servants when it was about Solomon making a difference between Grands like himself and others. If Grand Caster isn't part of the Counter Force, what the fuck would you think others are?
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>>134926118
You can't actually read Japanese, can you? When the hell has 抑止力 been used to mean anything but the Counter Force?
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>>134926342
Portal 3
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>>134926316
It says right there that that's normally, and also nobody is saying that grand servants = counter guardians. Again; fucking context. Grand servants = system to save human world = Alaya.
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>>134926427
Never heard of project cosmos before, but the background really does remind me of Extra's digital theme.
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>>134926480
Valve collab confirmed? Freeman archer when?
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FUCK SOLOMON
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>>134926194
What does that have to do with what he said some people with high divinity can't be used because their too close to gods who are related to the planet and its counter force theirs a reason tamamo and arc are said to be similar.
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>>134926484
Alaya cannot use souls that are not or were not buffed by them. Even those who were famous might be also off limits.

Solomon was never part of the Counter Force. You cannot guaranteed the Grand Servants are either.
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>>134926480
And my smile and hopes are gone. Thanks anon, fuck your orange box.
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>>134926342
>>134926216


source code
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>>134926216
Check the page source.
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>>134926631
>Alaya cannot use souls that are not or were not buffed by them.
[citation needed]
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>>134926498
Having a binary blue background and using the word "fate" does not mean it's a TM thing. Unless the first anon got the link off of an official TM media source, it could just be some random ass teaser.
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>>134926732

see>>134926692
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>>134926631
>Alaya cannot use souls that are not or were not buffed by them
That's your fanon, mate. That's not what Nasu said.
He said proper heroic spirits are treated as traditions and not given guardian duty, that's all.
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>>134926692
Anons you seem to know more then you let on. Do you guys know what it might mean?
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>>134926594
Wraiths like Koujiro and Hassan aren't part of it.

Famous people who become something like traditions or embodiments aren't either.

Look, Nasu is explicit about who are members of the Counter Force: those Alaya buffed to perform those heroics. Not included there: Artoria, Merlin, Solomon, David, and other special snowflakes. Even then, he puts its ambiguous if those worshiped as heroes become part of Alaya's forces (which was the case of Jannu). In Fate entry, he goes further to say it's just the literal whos.
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>>134926732


Anon the first thing you do for any teaser site is inspect source code
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>>134926839
You are yet again conflating the counter force with counter guardians, a specific subsidiary system within the counter force.
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>>134926727
>>134926805
Right here >>134926058
>>134925738

Alaya only has literal whos at his service. The rest don't give a flying fuck. That's why only EMIYA is whining about it.
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>>134926692
>Live and die by the sword
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>>134926894
Yeah I pulled a retard. Looks like the timer is roughly lining up with the release of this "very hard" event on the 16th. I'm going to assume they're related somehow.
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>>134926930
Nowhere does that state that Alaya can only use Counter Guardians.
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>>134926930
So, you didn't read my post at all.
>>>He said proper heroic spirits are treated as traditions and not given guardian duty, that's all.

Nowhere in that quote does it say proper heroes are not part of the counter force, but only that they're not given counter guardian duty.
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>>134926909
No, it's not. Where the fuck it says it's "subsidiary system". Give me the citation by Nasu, not your fucking headcanon.
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So if someone decided to make a ritual to free 1 heroic spirit from the throne, would they get ganked by the counterforce? I am planning to transcend realities to free tamamo once i get to the nasuverse
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>>134926692
Fate unlimited codes 2 with characters from fate/extra confirmed
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Autism
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>>134927014
>>134927010
You two have no idea what Counter Force is. Okay, I get it. Maybe it's 2deep4u.
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>>134926930
>can't even tell the difference between the counter force and counter guardians
Why do you even bother posting.
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>>134927075
>PS4 release worldwide later this year

Yeah.. I can only dream.
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>>134927107
You've made an assumption that fundamentally limits what the Counter Force can do, and now something canon is challenging that assumption.

You still haven't addressed what you think the Grand Servants even exist for if they aren't part of some Counter Force.
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>>134927164
Counter Force is an unconscious will that protects humanity. That's fucking all.

Heroic Spirits (shitty ones like EMIYA) who work for it, are Counter Guardians. That's fucking all.

Nothing to do with Grand Servants for they are not Counter Guardians or part of the Counter Force.
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>>134927037
They would unless it was some horrible fanfic with a self insert.
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>>134927018
Here. How about you take the time to read this through the whole way? >>134926058

Key lines of note.
>The prayer to avert the demise of mankind, Alaya.
>The Counter Force is a formless spiral of power. It adjusts its scale based on the target that needs to be obliterated. The Counter Force will always appear with a status above the target, enough to absolutely secure a victory.
>Normally, the Counter Force empowers "a normal person" to remove the factor that can trigger destruction.
>>>>>>NORMALLY
>i.e. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS FOR THE COUNTER FORCE TO ACT
>IF THERE WEREN'T THEN SAYING たいてい HERE MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER
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>>134926468
>アンデルセン: 英霊召喚とは抑止力の召喚であり, 抑止力とは人類存続を守るもの
>そして。これを倒すために喚ばれるものこそ、[r]あらゆる英霊の頂点に立つモノ。

>ソロモン: そうだ。七騎の英霊は、ある害悪を滅ぼすために遣わされる天の御使い。
>人理を護る、その時代最高峰の七騎。[r]英霊の頂点に立つ始まりの七つ。
>もともと降霊儀式・英霊召喚とは、[r]霊長の世を救う為の決戦魔術だった。
>それを人間の都合で使えるよう格落ちさせたものがおまえたちの使う召喚システム聖杯戦争である。

Just shut the fuck up, okay? You're writing fanfiction about Solomon being a normal Grand Servant when his own fucking description of the system contradicts it. He's bragging about himself as himself, the idiotic fucking assumption that Solomon is a normal representation of how Grand Servants operates exists inside your head only.

...you can't actually read a single word of this yourself, can you?
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>>134927252
>for they are not Counter Guardians
That is a logical assumption.

>or part of the Counter Force.
That is not.

What are the Grand Servants for?
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>>134927037
Now they will because I will tip them off, unless you free my waifu too.
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>>134926692
this is a uterus
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>>134927284
Still waiting for the explanation, because that simply corroborates what I stated. You know?

Only heroes who are part of the Counter Force are normalfags who got empowered. Not Artoria, Merlin or special and really powerful individuals but losers.

>>134927289
That's good, but none of that actually is about Grand Servants. I'm waiting for your actual quote.
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>>134927259
why? i wouldn't be threatening humanity of messing with the root.
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>>134927289
He will say something like this proves Me right you just can't read.
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>>134927259
>>134927259
I can already see it. Fangirl86-chan uses a ritual to free Gilgamesh from the throne, only to be ganked by Counter Guardian EMIYA. Wacky love tirangle hijincks ensue.
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>>134927430
Chaldea Gate, to get EXP cards.
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>>134927391
L-lewd.
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>>134927289
>when his own fucking description of the system contradicts it
How? He's literally just describing it as a system for the seven greatest heroic spirits to save the human world.
He is the Grand Caster, one of the seven made to save mankind, but he's not being summoned as part of 降霊儀式・英霊召喚 in Fate/Grand Order. That's what you seem to be confused on. If 降霊儀式・英霊召喚 were to be performed then he would be one of the seven.
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>>134927326
Counter Force actions are unconscious. Grand Servants are conscious forces.
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>>134927430
You go read the OP.
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>>134927252
>Nothing to do with Grand Servants
>>134926631
>Alaya cannot use souls that are not or were not buffed by them

It literally fucking says the system exists because of the Counter Force.

>アンデルセン:英霊召喚とは抑止力の召喚であり, 抑止力とは人類存続を守るもの
>そして。これを倒すために喚ばれるものこそ、あらゆる英霊の頂点に立つモノ。
>ソロモン: そうだ。七騎の英霊は、ある害悪を滅ぼすために遣わされる天の御使い。

Again:

>アンデルセン:英霊召喚とは抑止力の召喚であり
>ソロモン: そうだ。七騎の英霊は、ある害悪を滅ぼすために遣わされる天の御使い。

Andersen says they're summoned by the Counterforce and Solomon agrees, adding that this is what humans used as the base for the Grail War system. What OTHER system composed of seven summoned warriors is Solomon talking about if he doesn't mean the Grand Servants?
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>>134927539
>Grand Servants are conscious forces.
That's an assumption.

Solomon is a conscious force because he summoned himself, and a Grand Servant summoning itself is clearly an abnormal occurrence.
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>>134927435
>Still waiting for the explanation, because that simply corroborates what I stated. You know?
No, it doesn't. I have no idea what sort of twisted mental block you have to not see that. There has to be other ways for the counter force to act for empowering counter guardians to be its "normal" function. It logically must have "abnormal" functions that are, without question, still the counter force, the wish for mankind's continued existence.
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>>134927445
noone has given me a reason as to why one would be ganked for freeing a heroic spirit.
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Fate/Cosmos or Fate/Extra Cosmos ?

TL ?

http://www.4gamer.net/games/999/G999905/20160311042/
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>>134927602
Where exactly does that say is about Grand Servants? I don't see them mentioned anywhere.
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>>134927679
This line.
>ソロモン: そうだ。七騎の英霊は、ある害悪を滅ぼすために遣わされる天の御使い。
>七騎の英霊
that's the grand servants.
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>>134927656
It literally just says that it's a new project that we think is Fate related. Nothing that isn't in this thread already.
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>>134927628
I have no idea if you're stupid or just trying.

That's how and what the Counter Force does it, is it too complex for you to know?

>It logically must have "abnormal" functions that are, without question, still the counter force, the wish for mankind's continued existence.

That's a great fanfic. Can I subscribe at it. Give me an actual quote by Nasu about this 'abnormal' way.
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>>134927564
Completely overlooked that entry. Thanks.
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>>134927656
"There's a website with a countdown and 'A New Fate Begins To Stir". Source code has ascii art of command seal."

Literally nothing we don't know.
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>>134927798
>Give me an actual quote by Nasu about this 'abnormal' way.

You're fucking playing it.
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>>134927618
>That's an assumption.

No, it's not. Solomon is there and he's conscious. So conscious forces. Bring me actual proof not w-what ifs.

>>134927765
Or that is about the seven Counter Guardians Nasu refers they stand up against Primate Murder, since you're all established Grand Servants aren't Counter Guardians, it cannot be them.
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>>134927903
Solomon being there is an anomaly.

It was stated that Grand Servants are something that is supposed to protect humanity, and yet here Solomon is destroying human history. That right there is proof he's not doing what he's supposed to be doing.
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>>134927798
>That's how and what the Counter Force does it
So, you're literally saying Nasu defies all concept of writing and inserts たいてい into his sentences for no fucking reason at all.
For there to be a usual circumstance, there must be an unusual circumstance. This is axiomatic, you oblivious tart. If there is only one circumstance, it cannot be described as たいてい. It would be utterly devoid of meaning to write たいてい if there was no other method.
It's like a human saying "normally I breathe oxygen". There is a clear and vital implication in that sentence structure that there must be some times that they do not in fact breathe oxygen.
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>>134927435
>That's good, but none of that actually is about Grand Servants. I'm waiting for your actual quote.

You cant fucking read, can you?
>英霊は、ある害悪を滅ぼすために遣わされる天の御使い。
What OTHER system of seven warriors summoned to destroy threats is he going on about here?

>>134927529
>He is the Grand Caster, one of the seven made to save mankind, but he's not being summoned as part of 降霊儀式・英霊召喚 in Fate/Grand Order.

Because he's an irregularity, you goddamn retard. The Seven meant to save humanity are not meant to fucking destroy it. All of this stems from your idiotic fucking fanfiction that Solomon is saying all the Grand Servants work just like him. The system is fucking set in place by the Counter Force, Solomon summoning himself is him acting outside it. How the fuck are you this dumb?
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>>134927656
Only thing worth noting is the fact that the command spell in the source code is Hakuno's, meaning this is very, very likely related to Extra in some way.
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>>134927869

No, I'm not. Maybe if it empowers Gudao, it's just the old way. Do you have an actual quote or more headcanon?
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>>134927656
Huh, maybe Extra 2 on Vita? Sony certainly noticed Fate franchise, thanks to GO.
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Fuck the counter guardians post OTP
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Erabe

Fate/Extra 3 or Fate/Extra animu ?
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>>134928028
>>134928030
Maybe hoping that it's maybe a sign that Fate/Extra CCC might come to the west finally in a remaster version?
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>>134928183
F/E3 for PC. Fuck Vita.
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>>134928000
>Solomon being there is an anomaly.
Says who? Did Solomon call himself an anomaly? Because he never implied it.

>It was stated that Grand Servants are something that is supposed to protect humanity

No, it's not. It's stated the Servant system is based on another one, but Solomon never stated Grand Servants are part of that system. You are just cherrypicking and forgetting the flow of conversation.

>>134928013
Give me an actual proof, not your speculation. I couldn't care about delirious headcanon.

>>134928018
The seven counter guardians that stop Primate Murder. He never once spoke about he's part of those servants summoned to protect humanity, anon. You're making assumptions.
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Why not just wait for the next chapter before all this name calling? A lot of what Solomon says doesn't add up in certain parts, but there should be an explanation in the next chapter.
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>>134928183
I haven\t even played nor wish to play emulator games, so 2
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>>134927903
>Bring me actual proof

HE DESTROYED HUMANITY. What other fucking proof do you need that he's not working as part of the system explicitly set up to save humanity?

>Or that is about the seven Counter Guardians Nasu refers they stand up against Primate Murder,

Primate Murder being the number one absolute threat for humanity, you fucking retard. What ELSE do you think a system meant to protect humanity is meant to combat first and foremost?

No, really, what the fuck are you even claiming Grand Servants are? Just a random name Solomon gave his reading club?
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>>134928191
Why would a teaser on a Japanese site in Japanese hint towards a Western extra release? It's either a remastering of Extra or CCC (in Japan), or it's a 3rd installment.
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>>134928232

You're the autistic anonymous who can't tell when people are joking unless they clearly spell it out, aren't you? You utter ineptitude at grasping context outs you again.
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>>134928269
>HE DESTROYED HUMANITY. What other fucking proof do you need that he's not working as part of the system explicitly set up to save humanity?
He never said Grand Servants job is that. If they have one.

>Primate Murder being the number one absolute threat for humanity, you fucking retard.

But what stop him are 7 Counter Guardians according to Nasu. Solomon/Grand Caster isn't a Counter Guardian. Use logic.
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>>134928232
>It's stated the Servant system is based on another one, but Solomon never stated Grand Servants are part of that system.

Are you really reaching this far up your asshole that you're claiming that the "Seven Grand Servants" have nothing to do with the system of "Seven Warriors Summoned to Destroy Threats to Humanity"? The name and number are just random coincidences?

Ok, you're just completely retarded.
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>>134928473

>fate extra vita remake with Lancer berserker assassin and Rider servants

Who would they be /fgog/?
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>>134928473
>If they have one.
You're retarded if you think something like Grand Servants exists without a purpose.

NOTHING in this fucking setting exists without a purpose.
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>>134928284
I'm still hoping they'll bring CCC over here, I mean Extra sold pretty well would be a shame to never see the sequel come over here. And yeah I know the psp is dead over here but they can still release it digitally for the vita.
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>>134928223
If it's ever made, it will be released in the Vita :)
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>>134926216
>>134927656
So what's up with the hours of difference in the countdown between these?

Is it based on your system clock's time?

Can we abuse this to unlock early?
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>>134928232
>No, it's not. It's stated the Servant system is based on another one, but Solomon never stated Grand Servants are part of that system
READ, NIGGA, READ

>Solomon
>The seven greatest knights of that era, who protect humanity's foundations. The first seven who stand at the pinnacle of Heroic Spirits.
+
>Andersen
>One who stands above all other Heroic Spirits of the same type. In other words, a Servant with a Grand vessel.
=
seven greatest warriors summoned to save mankind = grand servants same
Zeroth law of thermodynamics, if A = C and B = C, then A = B.
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>>134928551
>You're retarded if you think something like Grand Servants exists without a purpose.

Actually, we only know that Grand Saber (because of a leak) and Grand Caster exist. We don't know if there are even Seven of them.

Again, this is just /fgog/ assumption based on the assumption that Solomon and Andersen was talking about it, completely butchering and forgetting what Solomon says next.

There could be just one Grand Servant who has escaped the limits of the planet (otherwise why the fuck would Solomon be so disappointed about humans) until Arturia proves him wrong.
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>>134928731
It was heavily implied that Grand Servants were what the Servants used in Grail Wars were based off of, especially when you take into consideration that Servants WERE EXPLICITLY BASED ON SOME NATURAL SYSTEM.
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>>134928818
Just because a system exists, it doesn't mean it's been used.
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>>134928657
>:)
Where do you think you are?
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>>134928894
It doesn't have to have been used for the Einzberns to steal the blueprints and take the highway to fuckup city.
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>>134928473
>He never said Grand Servants job is that.

He announces himself as Grand Caster right after the fucking line describing how the Servant system is a copy of the Counter Force's.

Here's something to shut you the fuck up: show me where he claims the Seven Grand Servants have nothing to do with 七騎の英霊は、ある害悪を滅ぼすために遣わされる天の御使い。because otherwise it's YOUR assumption that when he announces himself literally in his next fucking line, he was suddenly talking about an entirely different group of classes with the exact same fucking names as the previous ones. YOUR claims are assumptions, and completely retarded ones at that.
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>>134928731
Yeah your a retard who can't even read a single word of Japanese seriously forget 1+1=2 you can't even read the 1.
Anyone want to make a bingo?
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>>134903397
Iskanderus or Avenger. It's oblivious.
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>>134928965
Zelretch was the one who actually stole the blueprints, wasn't he?
>>
Well, alright.
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>>134929028
Fucked with your computer's clock?
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>>134928904
What's the matter? You got rustled? (:
>>
>>134929028
That's looking remarkably like the seven seas of Fate/Extra. Are we going back to the moon?
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>>134929115
Yeah.
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>>134929028
nothing ?
>>
>>134928731
>We don't know if there are even Seven of them.

Ok, you're completely fucking autistic and/or trolling now. There's being bad at reading context, and then there's being this fucking moronic and unable to read between the lines while claiming literal fanfiction as canon despite the fact that you don't have a single quote to back it up.

YOUR claim is that him slotting himself into a category that has a Caster and a Saber has nothing to do with the system that holds the categories of Saber, Archer, Lancer, Rider, Assassin, Caster and Berserker. If you're so idiotically unable to accept anything that is not explicitly stated in absolute terms, find the line where he explicitly says Grand Servants have nothing to do with the Counterforce's system of seven classes meant to save humanity.

It works both ways. If you demand absolute statements, you need to provide your own. And remember, you're operating under such a pathologically autistic mindset that nothing save explicit confirmation will work. Go on, find the quote.
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>>134929158
Well, what is it?
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>>134929286
That was all there was, as far as I can say.
>>
>>134928731
>We don't even know if there are seven
Are you mentally challenged?
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/4a2wty/new_fate_project_fateextra_thoughts_and/

Every single fucking time.
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>>134929351
It's quite clear that he is so I kind of feel bad for the guy.
At the same time he's insisting on so many annoyingly baseless absolutes that I just end up disappointed.
>>
>fate extra anime

Or

>fate extra remake with CCC included

Which one is more realistic?
>>
>>134929570
Japan is pretty fond of this remake shit lately, right?

In that case it's probably the latter.
>>
>>134929341
The clock is probably for show, and they'll just update the site themselves when it finishes.
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>>134929462
like pottery.
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>>134929462
(You)
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>>134929570
Fate/Extra and CCC HD remaster for PS4 would blast my nuts off.
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>>134929697
Yeah, that's probably right.
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>>134929673
The company that made Extra and CCC died so someone else would have to handle it. Whatever it is it won't be like the previous games. The dev team put a lot of love into the game.
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>>134929570
A new fate extra with Lancer, Rider and assassin as servant.
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>>134929570
Fate/Extra: Cosmos by Nasu and Kojima
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>>134929943

>Starring heroric spirit SNAKE
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What if it's a localization of the Stay night VN on vita?
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>>134930169
Why would the site be a .jp domain with japanese text then? It's not a localization.
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>>134930169
>What if it's a localization of the Stay night VN on vita?
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>>134929808
How'd they die extra sold decent and CCC sold great from what I heard.
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>>134930236
Everything else they made sold either decently or low, mostly low.
>>
>Fate/Extra sold better in the US than Japan

how
>>
>the website is the reveal of Fate Extra: CCCosmos on the PS4
>remake of fate/extra and CCC with new servants for the missing class
>new story called "Fate/Cosmos" taking place post CCC
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>>134930334
US is bigger.
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>>134930236
Every other project they did was deep in the red, and Aniplex, Type-Moon, and Aksys altogether took the lion's share from those anyway.
>>
>>134930236
2 games selling well can't keep a company afloat forever. Their last game, Stella Glow, only sold 13k units in the first week.
>>
>>134930334
Did anyone preorder the game online so you could receive the Fate/Extra booklet? Man I was scared the order wouldn't go through since i've neve preordered online before. Still have it, wonder if anyones scanned it yet.
>>
>>134914824
But that makes no fucking sense. If the throne actually pruned her memories properly she wouldn't even remember this shit rather than half-remembering it as something that "will" happen to here but doesn't feel like her "own" memories.

Or did the Throne actually prune her memories properly and shed used some magical clairvoyance shit to peek into her own alternate future?

And why the fuck does Nero not seem to have any problems with her memories of Extra?
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>>134930385
Aniplex didn't have a hand in Extra's release.
However, Marvelous Entertainment did so the point is intact.
>>
>>134930236
Imagepooch had been making spectacularly mediocre games for years.

They had a knack for creating impossibly lukewarm titles with absolutely shit gameplay and just enough generic animu pandering to attract buyers, but not enough to attract Persona-like attention. Their last game, Stella Glow, was basically a rehash of one of the Luminous Arc titles with their characteristic shit SRPG slow-ass battles where everyone with mid-to-low movement stats might as well sit out, idiotically unbalanced characters, mechanics that don't mesh with one another and painfully generic characters.

Basically, have you ever heard someone say they played Extra for the gameplay? Try to imagine how good their Nasu-less games where.
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>>134930451
Oh shit I remember that game, I didn't like the gameplay of it at all.
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>>134930236
>CCC sold great
No, it doenst have localisation in EU/USA so it sold way less than original.
>>
>secondaries will think that Nero is the same person as Arthuria when the extra thing gets revealed

Are you ready /fgog/?
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>>134930710
>xDD le secondaries getting things wrong maymay so funny xDD
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>>134930680
CCC is one of the best-selling PSP games ever.
>>
>my face when it's a Vita remake of Fate/Extra and CCC featuring a new playable Servant and B.B end
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>>134930754
Fuck off reddit.
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>>134930710
Wasn't that the entire point of Nero's character design?
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>>134923758
There are nigh-infinite alternate world lines and thus each Servant has been summoned a nigh-infinite number of times.

If they really remembered all those summonings then every Servant would have the Nero's Migraine skill.
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>>134930754
>xD
Fuck off
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>>134930710
Wasn't that the fucking point of Nero looking like Saber in EXTRA
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>>134930867
Yep
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>>134930792
Not really.
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