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A thread for all simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/

>Thread trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEwmxye3Fkw&feature=youtu.be

>/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral

>/fsg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
Or whatever is on the group's profile

>BMS download links
https://mega.nz/#!0BlTkazA!VUwoKAzavtJ3qIUy7lEF8D8MFjbI_Si-r6nwC3wQZYQ
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/54569phfy8au7/BMS4.33_setup

>Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

>Silent Hunter 3 pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/jNSvhFfY

>Dangerous Waters pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/qvxk755r

>FPSchazly's Dangerous Waters tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOSvzqNmdX71x2COOyM-p2qHIpRNOvpGQ

>/dcsg/ music playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLGfGalIdY7AgadRWtOf0c6jagM4JVjN4

>OP pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/yXeNzrpg

>Example of welcome sims:
DCS World
Falcon BMS
Rise of Flight
IL-2
Combat Helo
Microsoft Flight Simulator
X-Plane
Euro truck sim
Assetto Corsa
rFactor 2
Live for Speed
SAM Simulator
Steel Beasts Pro
Steel Armor: Blaze of War
Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
Silent Hunter
Train Simulator
Farming Simulator 2015

>Example of non-welcome games:
Arma 3
Ace Combat
War Thunder
World of ____
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God's plane
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>>133728553
>getting some shitty pre-service model
?, It's the full operational capability model.
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WIP and the last Ace Combat skin for Mirage 2000C I'll do

After this I'll probably wait with making any more skins until the Viggen is released
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>>133728649

Oh wait my mistake, I thought we were getting the Block 2, not 5.

Still, it's still a pretty early model with "basic air-to-ground capabilities" as VEAO calls it.

Also it's VEAO, god knows how long it'll take them to finish it, if they even get that far. I'd much rather invest my hype in the F-18
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>>133729724
>god knows how long it'll take them to finish it
I'm betting on ED revoking their 3rd party licence before Typhoon arrives if the P-40 launch is anything like the Hawk.
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How hard is it to learn the Mirage 2000? If it's like the Mig-21 that's good, but I don't have the time to learn another A-10
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>>133730258
Easier than the MiG, a lot easier than the A-10.

Fairly straight forward and since it's Fly-by-wire it's real easy to fly too.
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>>133729825
Considering shit that the Typhoon launched with is still classified and they couldn't get the fucking jet trainer right then the Typhoon is gonna be a shitshow
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>gods plane posting
>not f-15
Don't be so butthurt slavboos. Just because you're jelly of gods plane dosent mean you need to tell lies.
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>>133734027
>>133734262
More like babbys plane
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>>133734887
t. Babby
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step aside eagle babbys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lesJzn-3ABE
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>>133735320
WE FULCRUMPOSTING NOW, BABY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVPL0QZSQoA&ab_channel=Miros%C5%82awGawro%C5%84ski
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>>133735686
The terrain in 3:37 looks like something straight outta BMS
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>Filthy miggers thinking anyone gives a shit about their flying trash-heap.
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>>133736149
As much as I don't care for BMS, I have to say that its terrain definitely looks MUCH better than DCS terrain.

More MiG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nraj7UGPpHQ&ab_channel=Si%C5%82yPowietrzne

>>133736272
Why can't we be friends?
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SEND HELP!
I'm trying making a mission but the AAA guns just stopped shooting enemies. It used to work but suddenly they just ignore targets, why?!
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>>133737119
They ran out of ammo?

Also, you need to provide some more info on this stuff. I'm no mission maker myself but you should probably elaborate more so someone else who can help you can have some background to your problem.
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>>133737854
I tried restarting the mission, reloading the mission, spawning new guns, making new groups, day, night, different altitudes and targets. And I just cant get them to fire anymore.
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>>133738203
This may sound dumb, but have you tried restarting DCS itself?
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>>133738351
I did, then I made a new mission and it worked. then I went back to my old mission and they all shot like one burst and not they dont work again. Think my mission might be fucked
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>>133738632
I dunno man, really can't help you.

Sry bby.
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>bored of DCS static missions and online airquake

Guess it's time to go back to BMS

b-but it's so old

dynamic dcs campaign when
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>>133744736
>dynamic dcs campaign

actually fuck that, first things first, proper AI for WVR A2A when
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>>133744736
I'd actually be satisfied with a nice coop campagin. Is it really so expensive to hire a few decent community map makers who make a nice campaign with some help by programmers to make it work well with DCS. I'd actually pay money for that.
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>>133747234
you can make every mission into a coop really easily you know, and they'd actually be balanced for it, since playing them alone is insanity.
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Explain this shit, niggers.
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>>133752018
If I remember right there's some emergency manual gear release lever, did you pull it?
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>>133752232
I'm not really concerned about getting it down, I am more concerned why I get three UPs when in reality that shit is evidently sticking out.

Where is the problem? Shitty simulation? Proper simulation, but shitty plane? Bug?
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>>133752504
No I think that maybe you released the landing gear using that emergency lever so the front wheel deployed even though the indicator doesn't show that. I'm not sure if that's how it works, but it might not necessarily be a bug or anything.
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>>133747234
Well the red flag campaigns will be coop in the future most likely (search wags' posts)
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>>133746225
>proper AI for WVR A2A
You mean going into the vertical with a whooping 100 knots isn't tactically viable? But I see WT players do it!
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Friendly reminder that DCS is simcade and has no simulation value.
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>>133758781
>arbitrary numbers
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Falcon BMS is 7x as synergetic as legacy DCS
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>>133758781
Legacy shitposting is getting stale.
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I will never understand the people that try to say BMS or DCS is better than the other and don't just play both for their respective strengths.
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>>133760059
because annon people are shitters.

though in reality it's one or 2 shitters that keeps spamming the stuff.
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I brought a better camera
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>>133760606
The physics and flight modelling are great, but the weapons are lacking
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>>133760869
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>>133761080
fucking beta cuck
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>>133761080
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>someone is MiG posting for me while I was gone

Who ever you are, thank you. These nerds don't know shit a out the Fulcrum until an ET smacks them in the face and I head home at 1600km/h
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>>133761307
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>>133761080
Too much bloom and everything is brown. Even the grass looks brown when will devs learn?
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>>133761686
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>>133761968
Turn off motion blur it looks like crap.
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>>133761080
Visibility is excellent but the lack of RWR makes it unbelievably shit. Enjoy getting splashed by R-27Rs.
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>>133762214
It's why he has a flare gun you dip
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>>133761514
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>>133762214
At least it isn't an EC145. The Army bought a ton without really looking at them, and as it turns out they have a fly-by-wire connection running right through the seam in the canopy, meaning one round hits it and it becomes an uncontrollable rock. The UH-72s, therefore, are confined to CONUS
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>>133764203
When will we get new explosion effects?
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>>133764203
Why are delta wings so aesthetic
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It's kinda weird when everything goes as planned and a mission is uneventful.
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>>133769461
but that excellent mission rating
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>>133736453
>As much as I don't care for BMS, I have to say that its terrain definitely looks MUCH better than DCS terrain
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So how do you actually navigate from way point to way point in the MiG-21??

It doesn't show up on the F-10 map, which would be basically cheating. I had to use the F10 map and compare to the kneeboard. I feel like there has got to be a better way.

There weren't any NBD's or anything at the waypoints.


Also pics from max comfy ops
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>>133778738
Dead reckoning.
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>>133778738
Take a piece of paper and jot down the waypoint azimuth and distance, landmarks to look out for, distance and bearing from NDB etc.
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>>133780658
I.e. the old fashioned way of doing navigation
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>>133780969
Don't forget star charts
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MiG-21's red lights are the coolest shit. So classic.

Also I love how the sunlight removes the red. Amazing.
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>>133778738
Pretty much just eyeball it and use NDBs where possible even if they're not all that useful. I don't understand why the hell they can't make the F10 map show waypoints, I guess you could just use the kneeboard instead and mark your position to figure out where you are but both of those methods feel like cheating and the kneeboard maps are kind of shit too.
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>>133782339

Meant to post this one to demonstrate the effect.
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>>133782339
And I love how the floodlights have been broken for months so flying in pitch blackness is a huge pain in the ass. Also the sunlight washing out the red backlighting is neat and I'm glad they added it but it seems a bit buggy still for me and it often doesn't look right, I guess it's probably a hard effect to get just right.
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>>133782540
Always wanted a watch with red back light. The green shit always burns a after image for me.
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>>133761256
Hey, it's a Beta II, get it right. It's packing the pure, unrelenting rage of a Lycoming O-360 four-cylinder, horizontally opposed, carburetor-equipped, air-cooled panty remover that's been de-rated from 210 to 150 hp as a public service, due to chicks getting so goddamn wet when an O-360 was nearby that they'd make the ground slick, eventually resulting in non-OSHA compliance for workplace safety
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Is there a hot key to disable the info bar for screenshot purposes?
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>>133787075
Ctrl+Y I think. Pressing it once changes the information on the bar and pressing it again hides it.
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CAMOЛET БOГИ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lesJzn-3ABE
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>>133790510
MIGGER
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>>133790510
*CAMOЛЁT БOГOB

Fucking capitalist pig
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>>133796051
CAMOЛET БOГA

if you wanna be anal about it
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>>133797702
>CAMOЛET
I thought that looked familiar
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>>133797702
>literally shitting over singular/plural
m8, at least put dots in "yo", don't be a faggot
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>>133801761
Samolyot, not camo net.
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Hi guys, first time here. I have two DLC keys: one for PROFESSIONAL FARMER SIMULATOR 2014 and one for WAREHOUSE AND fucking LOGISTIC SIMULATOR. Anyone interested?
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BRDM
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So I'm creating on Operation Remove Refugee, an Anti-Ship Op for the MiG-21 (and other era correct aircraft) right now and goddamn some ships are stupid hard to sink.

>mfw trying to take down a Grisha, thinking it'll probably be easy
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>>133806307
Please add:
L-39ZA
A-10C (for lazing for the) M-2000C
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>>133783635
I think you have some wild fantasies about 4 cylinder engines.
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>>133806307
>(and other era correct aircraft)
>>133806982
I'm not him but REEEE, every plane in every mission fags git out, you are the reason it takes so long to make missions.
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>>133806982
>A-10C (for lazing for the) M-2000C
Fuck you and your 4gen faggotry, we /comfy/
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Holy fuck, I just managed to land a MiG-21 using RSBN only with almost no visual and only broke the nose gear a bit.

Shit's intense
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>>133807590
>>133808261
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Here's some fun for ya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y73tnUn6ETY
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>>133811360
tfw WW2 pilots will be forever tainted in my head by Strike Witches
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feed me migs
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>>133812047
I can't wait
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>>133811360
Fuck he's a salty old cunt, kind of wish the pilot put the f-15 through its paces and pulled some mad G's shut the grumpy old fuck up.
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>>133811516
>unironically love Vietnamese shitty cartoons
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>>133813603
>not watching young girls flying around in their panties with planes strapped to their legs

What kind of faggot are you
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>>133813665
>not finding actual planes sexier than girls
It's not me who is a faggot among us
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>>133813665
>>133813797
Both of you are faggots.
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bump
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Ded
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>>133818985
What was the story behind that anyway?
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>>133819163
PMC pilot fucking with his mates on the rooftop somewhere in Iraq I think
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Do I reverse in a Nose to Tail turn if the other guy attempts to reverse to change it into a Nose to Nose?

Or does the advantage lies with me maintaining a NTT?
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Reminder that German tanks had effectively no armour because it catastrophically failed on any hit, all of their designs were subject to extreme levels of mechanical failure, their industry was sabotaged by PoWs and frequent allied bombing, their soldiers were barely trained as the war went on, they were fighting on multiple fronts, and lead by a meth addict with who thought he knew more about warfare than his generals and advisors, yet it still took Soviets superior numbers, huge amounts of lend lease, and four years to overcome this opponent.
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Дэд
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Is this the end of /simg/? Without the shitposters and shitty bait there's nothing to argue about.
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>>133827896
We can argue what the cutest plane is
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>>133827896
Need muh new modules, the sim market be it planes or otherwise is quite quiet at the moment. I don't think we'll see ourselves go the way of /wgg/, they will never have anything new to talk about ever. We will, we just need to wait for it to arrive.
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IR clip arrived today.
Took a bit to set up but works great.

Now I have no excuse on how bad I am
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At least the shitposting is gone
Su-47 > F22
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>>133831142
>shitposting is gone
>so i'll shitpost myself
I hope someone will rape you
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WHO'S UP FOR OPS?
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>>133831492
What ops we talking
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>>133831593
DCS, dunno what mission, depends on amount of people
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>>133831297
>implying that was even a real shitpost

>>133831492
I guess I'll fly.
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>>133831756
>implying that was even a real shitpost
Comparing an unarmed prototype and a fighter plane is shitposting.

Also, hop in TS
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>>133761968
any good mods, pic related
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>>133831857
My Su-37 will beat your Yf-23 :3c
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>>133831949
My god that was a gorgeous machine
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>>133828603
are you the guy who ordered the delan clip?
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>>133832141
Yes?
I ordered it last week after asking about their quality.
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>>133831857
I will ops. gimme a sec
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>page ten
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F-15C so comfy
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>>133837525
There is nothing better than flying CAP (comfy air patrol) with gods plane.
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>/simg/ wants to do some simple free flight ops
>5 minutes later
>everyone is dead, all participating planes destroyed

We da best, guys.
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>>133838239
Truly the greatest fighting force on the planet
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>>133837525
>>133837885
Why FC3 babbies are so annoying?
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How do i enter 3rd person view in Dangerous Waters?
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>>133838904
In the map station there should be a small window that can be enlarged in the top left corner. If it isn't there and there is no drop down box, you need to into your settings and change the 3d window options.
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>>133839485
Top right sorry.
I'm trying to visualize this in my head at work.
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>>133831297

Your ace combat memes won't work here, casual!
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>>133838840
We are true plane connoisseurs.
Why can't you clicky cockpit fags just be nice to all planes.
Oh wait your all a bunch of idiot elitest.
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why is ARMA 3 not welcomed here?
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>>133840027
People here can't even into Dangerous waters because it's apparently to complicated, anyone here who talks down to fc3 fags was dropped at birth.
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Non-neet ops when?
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>>133840910
During non-neet hours?
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>>133840961
T-t-thanks.
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>>133840180
This is bait
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OC
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>>133840559
I can into DW, I just like singleplayer, witgout faggots ruining the game for me (like FC3 fags do with DCS)
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>>133845817
Merdeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Not sure if I should pick up the Mirage..
Can it compete against the F15/SU27?
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>>133840910
>yurop times are neet
Dumb amerifat can't into timezones
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>>133846298
Nothing can compete with the F15
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>>133846298
Sure it can, head to head brawling? Probably not.
Fly it like a MiG-21, 530s are shorter ranged than AMRAAMs so you'll need to close distance.

As for whether you should get it, I would wait, it still has some ways to go (Radar is buggy and missing features, missing major systems and only now has IFF in 2.0.1).

desu I'm not even sure if i'd buy it when it is 100% complete, Compared to the MiG-21 BiS it's Bang/Buck ratio is pretty low. You only get two A/A missiles (which you can only carry 2 of each) and then a small assortment of bombs + Rocket pod. Plus compared to the MiG-21 it's fairly easy/straight forward to fly so there's nothing really there to spend time learning.

It's still not decided whether they will give the C the ARMAT (Anti-rad missile) but if they do it would nice incentive to pick it up.
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>>133847076
>It's still not decided whether they will give the C the ARMAT (Anti-rad missile) but if they do it would nice incentive to pick it up.

I'm pretty sure they won't, they've said they've no idea how it is employed, not even basic HUD symbology. They'd have to make up 100% of the arming, aiming, & firing procedure as well as the ballistics of the missile itself.
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>>133831869
I hear that mod makes it almost completely uncontrollable by adding an excessive amount of controller lag
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>>133846349
>implying the eurocucks that play ops aren't all neets
Europoors* sorry.
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>>133848868
The balistics can be taken from the shape of the missile it self, you make a 3d model and you run a simulation for it.

rocket engine is w/e just make it a better version of some older french missile and it should be close enough.
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>>133849628
You're right of course, but it still stands that they've admitted on the forums they have no idea what the pilot actually does to fire it. Which I think rules out its inclusion.

Even our varient of the RDI couldn't fire the ARMAT I would still support it's inclusion if they knew how it was fired on other Mirages. But it's super sekrit frog knowledge and I'd rather they didn't flat out make things up.
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>>133848868
They shoulda just made the 2000E, that way we could get a proper multirole fighter.
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>>133850167
>obscure export variants
booo, hissss
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>>133850397
Gameplay > National Variants

I just want to be able to laze my own GBUs
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>>133850543
implying anything is even known about the 2000E
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F15E when?
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>>133852737
Right after the F-22.
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>>133846298
The Mirage is more maneverable then both, but not faster and doesn't have more range.
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Will we ever aviate in an AV-8?

With this and the Mirage, we could reenact the Falklands
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So is their some mythical secret behind Super 530's? I'll lock onto a target well within range and the missile don't hit/ or seemingly disappears

Is this just a bug or am I doing something wrong?
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>>133858739
You need to press the lock button twice, if you press it once it goes TWS, twice goes STT
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>>133858739
ED has sekrit french documents, missile is fine


WHERE IS PROOFS?
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>>133858739
Are you locking on twice? For some goddamn reason you have to do it twice before it actually tracks and yet the plane will happily let you fire the missile anyway even if it isn't locked on to anything. If everything is properly locked and in range and if the missile is in a good mood and isn't out to lunch then the HUD will say TIR and if I remember right there's some sound also.
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How many people are in here who play BMS? Have there ever been BMS ops with people from this thread?
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>>133859281
>Have there ever been BMS ops with people from this thread?

Yeah
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>>133859509
How many people and are they still doing ops?
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>>133858607
We could do Six Day War ops already if there was a Mig-19.
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>>133858607
Yes. Razbam is doing the night attack version; will do the Gr7/9 if they can get the info for it and when ED is done with A/G radar, they'll do the B+.
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>>133858853
>>133859203

Okay, I didn't know about locking onto it twice and now the missile starts going towards the target and breaks a hard left if the target is turning. Even when I'm right behind the target it just completely goes off target. Even the gunsight is completely off target. I know somethings wrong here.
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>>133861710
Are you using Super530s or Matra Super530s?

Anything without 'Matra' in front of it is the DCS missiles which are absolute garbage.

The missions use the DCS ones by default so you'd need to go into the editor and change them.
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>>133861878
I'm just using the default air intercept loadout. So I'm guessing make my own with the Matra S530's?
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>>133862312
Yes.
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>>133861878

What's the deal with that anyways. Why can't ED let razbam replace the generic ones with the ones from the Mirage.
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>>133862353
Alright I did that and it actually splashed

Why are the DCS ones in anyway?
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>>133863229
Maybe Razbam hasn't figured out how to do it. The module installation for the Mirage includes a bunch of custom sounds for the engine and stuff like that, but they're not actually used ingame because Razbam hasn't figured out how to make the game use those sounds instead of the generic sound effects.
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>>133863330
>>133863453
The RAZBAM ones are like a one patch old, they will replace the DCS ones in a future patch.
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>>133859725

>Substituting Mirage 2000 for Mirage III

Might as well use Mig-29s instead of 19s and 21s.
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>>133863330
Also another question, whenever I fire a missile with a lock. The Mirage banks left/Right and the HUD shows a D. How do I turn this off?
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>>133864536
Turn it off?

The banking is because you have removed weight from one part of your aircraft, but not the other, so it banks.

The D and G is telling you what missiles you have left.
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>>133864536
It banks because now one wing is heavier than the other. The G and D on the HUD are gauche and droite (left and right), it shows which missile you have selected.
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>>133864707
>>133864727


That explains it, sorry for the dumb questions I'm used to flying FC3 aircraft
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>>133865157
At least you're making an effort to get good.
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>I don't like how my aircraft rolls when one wing is heavier than the other
>how do I turn this off
>fc3
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Anyone else notice the DCS Su-33 doesn't support the Kh-31 anti ship missile?

That's a pretty glaring omission.
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falcon too hard for you fags?
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>>133866806
F-16 is boring
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>>133866806
Nah, I'd love to get into BMS but the control setup is so shit and unintuitive that if you don't have a fully fledged HOTAS it's next to impossible to play BMS properly AND be combat effective at the same time. Maybe when I get a proper HOTAS.
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>>133866786
kek
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>>133859281
I play BMS almost every night and typically post screenshots from whatever I did that night but I never do MP.
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>>133866754
That happens to the FC3 jets as well. Even the SFM ones.
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>>133869113
Why not MP?
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>>133846298

In BFM you'll steamroll an F-15, against a Flanker you have a faster instantaneous turn rate, but you bleed energy like a motherfucker.
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>>133870196
It's hard enough getting it working with people who know what they're doing and I just generally don't like how prohibitive and complicated something gets the instant you try and coordinate people into a MP mission. Something that would take 5 minutes by myself turns into a 30 minute ordeal.

It's really cool when things go right and I have the free time to spare though, but that's not usually how my nights go.
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>>133870436
You got to be real chill dealing with 4 new guys and slowly walking through shit.

I think the datalink makes BMS easier for the newer guys once they know how to fly. Flying DCS, they're blind the minute they take off.
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In real world terms, how deadly is a system like the SA-8 which contains all it's systems in a single platform?
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>>133872371
Depends on the battlespace.

Since it's mobile and self-contained you can move it around and into sneaky spots.
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>>133872371
A well trained crew can slaughter entire flights.
Un, or poorly trained crews face the fate of the arabs in Israel.
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>>133869343
I never noticed it with the F-15C, Su-27 or even A-10C. It was just extremely noticeable with the Mirage. So honestly I thought it was a feature
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/simg/ really is just /planeg/ isn't it? 80% of the posts aren't even about simulation planes, just actual ones. Besides that, lots of other simulation games exist. Where do I go for sim-racing that's not Reddit?
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>>133877970
Make one I guess.
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>>133877970
I play lots of racing sims but I hardly talk about it because honestly there's not much to talk about.

>today i raced cars around a track in X sim
>today i raced cars around another track in Y sim

If you want to get into "my sim can beat up your sim" then there's lots of potential shitposting to be had I guess.
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TESTING OPS UNDERWAY

ANTI SHIP OPS

GET IN TS

/simg/
ops

I'm not there right now but I'll leave the server up for a while, it'll probably be quite difficult to complete the last objective.

Also keep in mind it's a work in progress and subject to change.
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>>133879209
What kind of Ops is anti ship ops? DW?
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What racing sims of /simg/ play?

I play mostly R3E, but I have pretty much every other sim out there and mess around with them. Assetto Corsa would probably be what I play the second most frequently.
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>>133879493
I'm not trying to shitpost, but you should check out /ovg/ on /o/. I think you would like it better there.
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>>133879420
DCS
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>>133878535
>today my plane flew around
>today I had a successful/did not have a successful mission
>look, I flew with my wing gone

It's not as if there's more or less to talk about with planes.
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>>133879209

>anti ship ops
>I'm closing at work tonight

Fuuuuugg

Good luck tovsrishi and may Artem Mikoyan smile upon you
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>>133882592
It's okay tovarisch, it's just a test anyway. The finished mission will be done either tonight or in a few days.
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>>133879493
pcars, dirt rally. i am so fucking terrible at both
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>>133879914
There's a reason I don't go there anymore and I don't miss it once bit. I play my racing games in peace now.
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>>133884912
>remembering /wtg/

I feel you.
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>>133819525
depends on your separation
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Battle of Stalingrad ops when?
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very late night yuro drunkness bump

not sure if the airspace police would approve of me flying in this state, on the other hand, they can't exactly pull me over
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>>133886231
you sure about tht buddy???
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>>133886496
>suicide run bombs
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>>133886928
>suicide run

1.turn off afterburner
2. spam flares
3. frag an escort/sead flight with you
4.get good

i got an 80% return rate from oca runs with durandals. btw if u wanna play lemme know
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No Escape Zone calculation is:

Weapon max range - (Weapon max range/Weapon max speed)*Target max speed

Examples include:
SA-8 vs Low flying F-16:
10km - (10km / ~2470kmh)*1470kmh
= 4 km NEZ.

65-76 Torpedo vs Oliver Hazard Perry FFG:
13.4nm - (13.4nm / 50kts)*29kts
= 5.6nm NEZ.

SA-11 vs MH17
35km- (35km / 3704kmh)*950kmh
= 26km NEZ.
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>tfw made and remade ETS2 profile 50+ times for non-issues like the virtual mirrors being up when I start driving for the first time or picking the wrong picture before picking the right one
what's wrong with me?
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>>133882592
>Artem
IT'S ARTYOM YOU CAPITALIST PIG
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>>133886180
In 4 years when it won't cost a retarded amount of money AND will have content.
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>>133890350
kek my father's name is artyom but he writes it as arthur because no one can pronounce it properly
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On the way to my target bridge I passed some F-15s flying back home with damage.
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>>133845817
Well, the radar will finally be able to move in elevation next patch which should help a lot with maintaining lock while maneuvering as moving too much in pitch causes the target to go out of the radar cone right now.
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>>133863229
Razbam devs have said their missiles will replace the ED ones but they first need to go and edit out the old ED ones from the missions they've made and make sure there isn't any other old code referencing the old missiles that can cause issues.
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>>133895564
So much for modular programming.
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>>133895564
I'm no expert or anything but why can't they just take the old missiles and update all the numbers to what they're supposed to be and use that instead of making an all new missile and manually swapping them? I want to like Razbam and I want to believe and they do seem to be doing pretty diligent work, but it seems like they do some pretty incompetent shit sometimes.
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>>133877970
Thing about racing sims is if you want to talk about the cars themselves, there's /o/. If you want to talk about the game then there isn't much to talk about regarding complaining about balance and new features are extremely rare in all racing sims as their dev teams are slow as fuck and never do anything.
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>>133895981
Because RAZBAM isn't ED.
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>>133896184
>post yfw they implement gymkhanna to Dirt
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>>133895981
>why can't a third party developer just edit the code of the main developer and release it under the name of the main developer
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>>133896505
pls no
I just want it to have a larger number of tracks which are more realistic and not so wide. I haven't bought it as I'm hoping they do that since the amount of rally stages in the game right now doesn't appeal to me.
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>>133896625
But didn't they make the Magic and the Super530D missiles themselves? Or were those already ingame before Razbam made the Mirage module? If those missiles were already made by ED previously for use by AI planes and now Razbam has made their own separate missiles for the module then never mind, I understand.
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>>133897692
Already in-game for the AI
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>>133890350
Look I can actually speak Russian, doesn't mean I can translate that shit into English letters.

Calling everyone capitalist pigs is getting pretty old friend, and this is coming from a slav
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>>133900527
>Slavs hate slavaboos as much as nips hate weebs
Oh the ironing
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>>133900527
>doesn't mean I can translate that shit into English letters.
Is your IQ below 50?
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>>133907050

I don't know man you tell me
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artem_Mikoyan
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>>133900527
Not the anon you replied to, but also a slav, to some extent those memes are okay, you can expect that, since we're basically a meme nation, but shit's been overused to death.
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>>133907946
Wikipedia being shit as usual.
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>>133911049
Now I'm pretty sure that you know shit about Russian language.
Basically, both variants are shit, since the closest sound to how actually that name is pronounced is the German "ö" sound.
t. slav
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>>133911746
Artyom is most definitely closer to Apтём than fucking "Artem". Try pronouncing "Artem" with the phonetic pronunciation.
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>so much shitposting and we haven't got yet to ь, ъ and ы letters
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I made a little mission to practice dogfighting in the Mirage. I took down two MiG-21s I'm a huge shitter so I probably would've gotten rekt in a fair fight against another 4th gen fighter but I blew all my missiles and still had a big fat AWACS plane to down. For some reason my useless wingman just would not fire his last remaining 530D so I tried getting some cannon practice instead. I fired all 15 rounds and then was totally out of ammo so I tried to just buzz him real close instead for some aerobatics practice.
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>>133914294
I got a bit closer than I intended, but I successfully downed the enemy aircraft.
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>>133914413
Then I decided to jump into my wingman's plane to try out the navigation stuff. The synthetic runway HUD overlay thing is pretty fucking neat by the way. Then on final approach I ran out of fuel.

All in all a tremendous success.
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>>133914593
>not practicing flameout landings
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>>133914683
I noticed when I was at bingo fuel but then I did some rough estimation and figured that I would have just enough fuel to get back. Then in the process of fucking around getting everything set up for landing I guess I forgot to keep an eye on it until the engine just cut out when I was way too low and slow to do anything.
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>Artyom (Russian: Apтём) is a male given name common in Russia and other Slavic-speaking countries. The name uses the "ё" letter, which can be transcribed to English as "e" but still has the "yo" sound. Furthering confusion there is another name Artem (Ukrainian: Apтeм), whose only spelling in English is "Artem", and is pronounced with the "em" ending syllable.
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>>133918658
God but they're a sexy thing. I wish the DCS one wasn't vaporware
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>>133918842
I think they look better than any other delta, hopefully VEAO gets shitcanned and ED make their own version in 5 years
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>dedder than wgg
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>>133920348
why does this general exist again?

what is there to discuss about sim games exactly
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>>133922227
Because /wgg/ is as cancerous as /a3g/ by throwing shitfits when people aren't talking about their shitty RTS.
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>>133918923
>I think they look better than any other delta
That's a very strange looking Draken in your picture there.
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>>133918923
>Tfw it will be a true gods plane because we dont have any NATO planes with IRST yet
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>>133923373
I like the draken but it's too thick near the front, doesn't look as slick but that's just me

>>133923424
>Implying it will even be flyable
It's also a pretty early version so I don't know if it'll really have capabilities that are much better, also depends on how much stuff VEAO is allowed to incorporate and what needs to be kept classified and unimplemented.
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>>133923506
From my own experience with the aircraft and how much the RAF lets you know the only things they were funny about were the DASS and the aircraft true top speed. We're deffo not getting CAESAR/CAPTOR-E in the version we get so don't worry about radar
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>>133923675
Well that's good news I guess. It just depends on whether VEAO can actually deliver a functioning module or not then.
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>>133922276
>DASS
What is that?
>>
Is there a WW2-era warship sim beside Silent Hunter?
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>>133924051
I think you named all of them.

I suppose Destroyer Command.
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>>133923776
The RAF gave them all access to Hawk T1A and look how that turned out
>>133923857
Defensive Aid Sub System. It's essentially the Typhoon's RWR but it incorporates a LWR and apparently can warn of IR guided missile launches. When I saw a Typhoon cockpit they let us fuck about with the MFD but never switched on DASS so I have no idea what it actually looks like
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>>133924151
Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
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>>133924427
I assume it likely uses a system similar to the A-10C MWS system we have in DCS where it detects the missile launch smoke with some more high tech features like detecting a new heat source and maybe using high quality cameras that can detect small objects moving at high speed and some other high tech shit.

Who knows though, that shit will be classified for an extremely long time.
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>>133924561
Any chances that they'll model a "Mostly Guesswork™" version of the DASS?
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>>133925426
Depends on if the RAF even lets them do it. I wouldn't be surprised if they're allowed to use the current MWS system of the A-10C but nothing more.

Although I think RAZBAM is doing a system for the M-2000C and I have no idea how accurate it's supposed to be or if it'll be guesswork. The M-2000C did not actually have a MWS system, called D2M, but has the switches and whatnot implemented in the cockpit, it just lacked the sensors on the body of the plane according to ED forum posts. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2696614#post2696614
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>>133914294
>missing shots with a 4th gen fighter
>on a fuckhuge aircraft
Bury your head in the sand like ostriches do.
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>>133927564
Gunsnake in M2kC is garbage though.
Probably broken like everything else on the Mirage.
>>
Is there any sim out there right now that let's me fly 4th gen dual seat aircraft with a buddy?
I just want that cozy feeling of buddy flying.
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>>133927715
FSX
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>>133927715
IL2 BoS is kinda shitty but you can fly a bomber while your buddy mans a gun position.
>>
Is there a torrent for Steel Beasts anywhere?

I've always wanted to play a tank sim, but shilling out a hundred buckaroonies for a game that would probably be too hard for my dumb ass to fully graps is a bit stiff.
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>>133928267
Just pay 10 dolla for a single month subscription.
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>>133928313
>>133928267
This. Pretty fun for a while, definitely worth ten bucks for a month of fucking about with it.

>tfw there'll never be an M1 Tank Platoon III
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>>133927438
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>>133929693
>.se
>rainbow tail

of course.
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>>133929765
i dont get it
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>>133929964
SWEDEN YES
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Wide load coming through
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>>133930220
Wrong thread buddy this is planeg.
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>>133930304
haha I love this epic new meme! XD
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Any love for real stick and rudder flying here or are all of you guys just into noskillz lawndarts and meme missiles?
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>>133930667
I still don't know if I should buy BOS. IL2 ops would be pretty cool though.
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>>133930667
You mixed up your images, here, this is what you wanted to upload.
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>>133930667
Is Team Fusion still working on CloD Mods?
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>>133930713

It's pretty good but honestly it's not very good value for money.

+
>Nice flight physics
>Looks good
>Feels good

-
>Badly optimized
>Muh unlocks
>Meme campaign
>Online play tumbleweeds 12 hours a day and the only good server has over 9000 ping outside Ru.
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>>133931047

Yeah mang, TF 5.0 should be out soon...ish.
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>>133929765
not a rainbow but sure
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>>133930667
>grandpas plane
sorry dad its 2016 and you should be flying flaming cliffs now.
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>>133931167
Then my boner is ready. I've kinda lost touch after 4.something - any idea of the major notes in 5.0 before I go and have a read?
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>>133931329

You meant to say Falcon BMS right?

>Flaming Cliffs
>Not even once

I have it, spend about 30 minutes trying to memorize keybinds before lolnoping my way back into a real plane.

>>133931468

A lot of fixes, new theatre, some new planes and who knows what else. Might be the Med from what I hear.
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>>133931685
>Might be the Med from what I hear.
Pls let it be so. I'm hungry for some CR42 action.
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>>133931685
>Might be the Med from what I hear.
Oh please
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>>133931851

Fresh air, the sun in your face and all the bugs you can eat.
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>>133931938
>all the bugs you can eat.
What?
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>>133932696

Oh my poor summer child...

>Open cockpit
>Nothing to stop bugs from flying into mouth

It happens, go find a Tiger Moth pilot and watch how he talk without moving his lips
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>>133932993
The CR42 has a windshield.
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>>133933101
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>>133886231
There's actually a way to get pulled over in the air, it's called an intercept, and if you don't comply you're asking to get shot the fuck down
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Would you fly with greg as your wingman?
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>>133936137
yea seems way better than me
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>>133936137
Given his reputation for dangerously close formations in combat and him crashing into the lead on multiple occasions...

No.
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>>133936245
>dangerously close formations
Fuck, my bunch does this too. 6 planes in a densely packed blob.
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I'll just leave this here

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-ive-learned-so-far-dogfighting-in-the-f-35-a-jsf-pilots-first-hand-account-2016-3
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>>133936848
>spreading /k/-tier libtard defense "journalism" trash
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HA HA, I'M BOMBING THE GERMANS
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Bay doors open
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Fucking bombsights, how do they work?
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FUCK
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>>133937650
IL2 B-25 gunner ops when?
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Well, at least we got out of there ali-OH SHIT
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>>133937857
Feather the number two before the poor fucking cow crashes, dickhead
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That's... supposed to be spinning

Eh, I'll just trim it out
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Another semi-successful mission

Now if only I could figure out how to make the bombsights actually work as advertised
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>>133938158

>Bind key to "Level Autopilot"
>Switch to bombardier
>????
>PROFIT
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>>133939536
>bandicam
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>>133942126
Better question is what weapons/vehicles will not be present in Apex in order to sell later as DLCs?

I bought it on a discount but aside from (kinda cool looking) Tonoa, I have no idea what Apex actually has to offer.
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>>133937135
If you want the source it's here and a pretty interesting read. The article is written twice, just scroll down for English unless you happen to be Norwegian.

http://nettsteder.regjeringen.no/kampfly/2016/03/01/f-35-i-naerkamp-hva-har-jeg-laert-sa-langt-the-f-35-in-a-dogfight-what-have-i-learned-so-far/
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>>133942263
>won free game in January
>buy Arma 3 + DLCs
>ask for $55 to pay for Arma + Apex
>he finally sends it
>now you can get Arma + DLCs + Apex for $55

basically I had to pay for the DLCs separately because Apex wasn't on steam for the longest time
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>>133943325
The A-10C is THE best ground attacker currently in the game and probably in existence it is very easy to fly, but you need to know the procedures required for startup and actually spend some time on setting up your hotas for all the buttons and stuff.


If you want to, I can give you some basic lessons. I fucking love the A-10C and everyone who says shit about my planefu can go eat a bowl of GBU-10s.

pic related
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>>133943325
Yes
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>>133925635

What about the Hornet? Does it have a MWS?

Also anyone know if we're getting any of the later cool gadgets like

>LITENING pod
>aim-9X
>JHMCS
>Datalink
>Color MFDS
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>>133945483
>aim-9X
probably not
>JHMCS
probably not
>Datalink
probably
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>>133945193
>>133945474
When I do the startup tutorial I move the throttle to idle with the APU on and nothing happens
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I WANT MY F-18 NOW
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>>133945646
Hop on teamspeak, if you want, we could sort this out.

Apart from that there could be a few reasons:

inverter switch not on, apu power not on, fuel pumps not on,...
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>>133945775
Nvm I got it. Fuck how does anyone remember this startup sequence
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>>133946434
Paper and Pen
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>>133946434
It's easy.
Generators, Inverter
Boost pumps.
Move throttle to idle
Congratulations, your engines are starting.
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>>133946434
In real life you run through checklists. You don't just memorize things because then you take shortcuts and you don't want to risk losing a plane over something stupid.

In a game though you do it enough that you just remember through repetition and find little shortcuts to make it faster.
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>>133945646
Make sure your throttle really is in the idle position, so unless you have a Warthog it should be all the way back. On the Warthog bringing it to idle requires something like lifting the throttle. This cannot be moddeled with regular axes, so for regular joysticks it is bound as a keystroke.
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>>133946434
Tbh I think the Ka-50 and the Mig-21 is way worse. So many switches to flip. The A-10C doesn't have that many, and even less if you skip the non-essentials. Also I find the little display showing the warning lights help quite alot in remembering what you still have to do. Ideally after your startup that whole panel should be blank.
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>>133947245
The MiG-21 is easy as hell, it's supposed to be fast so you can scramble quickly for intercepts. You just turn on like 4 switches on one panel for the electrical shit and fuel pumps, move to the other panel to start the engine, and then just flip on every single switch on the right panel and you're ready to go. Don't forget to start warming up the radar before you take off. Real pilots were supposedly able to start taxiing from a cold start in one minute.
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>>133947245
Thing is you can get really far with the Ka-50 and MiG-21 by remembering just the correct order of very few switches and just going for a "EVERYTHING MUST BE ON"-approach and the aircraft will start
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Had this happen to me a while ago, both pilots and one gunner dead, but the huey stayed in stable flight circling. Was kind of funny to watch.
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I know I'm about a week slowpoke, but I just found out that Razbam's making a Tucano.
Should I expect this to be good or bad? I assume that getting info on it won't be quite as hard as some other planes.
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>>133949430
Will release as a beta product, be 20% made up and rapidly developed.
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>>133949430
It's gonna have no weapons so it'll just be a worse trainer aircraft than ones we already have
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>>133949430
Only boring normal Tucano. Quite why they are bothering is beyond me, they've already shown they can have a decent crack at a 4th gen fighter... Everyone else just did trainers to familiarise themselves with an 'easy & simple' first plane.

>>133949532
It'll have the usual collection of shitty rockets and tiny dumb bombs.
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>>133949648
I thought it was the same version as the Bong one, which has no ability to fit weapons whatsoever. My bad
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>>133949430
>digital trainer simulator
im so fucking butthurt

sigh i guess ill just have to go back to bms
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>>133949837
At least based LN is giving us a Viggen, Corsair, Tomcat, and probably a Draken.
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>>133950026
>probably a Draken.
Hmmm, I doubt anytime soon. There have been hints, but they could easily just be pointing toward an AI Draken for the new theater they are doing.
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>>133949112
Proof of dead pilots, lol.

>>133949430
Meh, it's basically a COIN plane. It would fill a role that is already covered by half the other already existing modules.

However it would certainly be interesting to have as a more limited A-10C, so it could maybe be used in 60s/70s/80s servers to substitute the A-10 as the A-10C would be too powerful/advanced. But I fear it will just be ignored, since it is such a specialised plane that will instantly fall apart as soon as there is ANY anti air assets around. We'll see.
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>>133950026
"Probably a Draken" based on absolutely nothing but an avatar from Lionheart Brothers

The ED forums are a cancerous hive of specutainment and I honestly wish all the speculation and wishlisting would be contained to one tiny forum where they can all sit and jerk off together

LNs development list is clearly the most interesting one of all the devs (and VEAO doesn't count for obvious reasons), but I'm interested to see what Polychops helicopters will be like

All the trainers can go to hell, I have plenty of buyers remorse over C101 and Hawk already
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>>133950309
>Meh, it's basically a COIN plane.
It's basically a slower C-101CC.
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>>133950464
basically a slower l-39
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>>133949648

This. I wish they would just drop the Tucano and T2 and focus on getting the Harrier and F-15E out faster.

DCS has enough useless 'light strike aircraft' that I doubt they will even make a profit off of these.
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>>133950705
>I wish they would just drop the ... T2
They already did. It's more or less abandoned afaik.
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>>133950705
>DCS has enough useless 'light strike aircraft' that I doubt they will even make a profit off of these.
That could be why they went for the Tucano instead of Super Tucano. Apparently it would have taken them considerably longer to make.
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>>133950825
>>133950705
The official staus is "on hold" until carrier ops have been fixed in DCS, which means it'll be ready around 2025 at this rate

But quite honestly there is no reason to put any more trainer aircraft into this simulator, they are all pointless enough as is anyway, and while some DCS pilots like myself buy aircraft for the sheer interest of learning to fly them, we are NOT a majority, and we would much rather learn to fly something interesting rather than "Oh pls this is in no way like all the other unarmed subsonic swept wing steam gauge cockpit trainers with minor weapons capability"
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All the way from page 10

Set up mission 1 from Ace Combat Zero in DCS and let the AI take control

Galm team have excellent skill, the rest are randomized

2x F-15C Galm
3x F-16A Crow

vs

4x F-4E
4x F-5E
4x Tu-95
4x Tu-160

Snowy conditions, high altitude over mountains

LET THE GAMES BEGIN
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>>133953998
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>>133954181
And it's splash one for Galm team
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>>133954406
dose mountains mang
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>>133954406
>>133954181
>>133953998
The "belkans" are arguably getting served but this valiant F-5E is determined to fuck up Galm 1s day and has been for minutes
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>>133955020
Another F-5 has done it! It's the first loss for the mercenaries!
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>>133955571
Crow loses one

And yeh I realize I'm posting a fucking lot but no one else is so let's keep the thread alive with some good old air combat footage
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>>133955020
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>>133956146
did the bears make it?
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>>133956330
>>133956357

End result:

All Ustio aircraft splashed

3 Bears out of comission but flying
1 Blackjack out of comission but flying
1 F-4E lost, 2 out of comission
No F-5E losses

F-5E confirmed for god's plane
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>>133956538
Here's the lost Bear going down
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>>133956967
;_;7
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>>133929693
Is that some qualitywings avro I see?
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More bombing, this time of those filthy Nips
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Are there any tanksimmers present?

I was looking for information about Steel Armor: Blaze of War and if it's a good tanksim and it's workings, and if it has a good interface unlike Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942. Tried to get into that but the screen res is fucked up to the point I couldn't even play the tutorials

I just wanna pretend to be the tanker of a motorized infantry division and have fun
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Got the bombsight working, wew lads
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>>133962107
Whats up with the rivers?
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Tons of flak from the Japs
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>>133962186
Old fucking game

And I do mean tons of flak
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Just a little scratch on the port nacelle, though.
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Come to DCS NL and lets git some niggas
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>>133962186
I had a one-month license for Steel Beasts last summer, it was a lot of fun with all roles manned by players. Stomping hordes of AI slavshit in a western space tank in 3 player co-op was way better than I expected. I wish some other online milsims would have so good vehicle models.
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>tfw no MiG tranny
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>>133964741
Are those 2 ECM pods? Why 2?
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>>133969475
You need both mounted for ecm to work
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>>133969724
I thought the default in game load outs only placed a single pod on one wing. Weird.
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>>133969842
That is a default loadout except I changed two fuel tanks to Kh-58Us
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10
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>>133962291

>not using glorious 4.13 bombsights so you can snipe shit with the Norden and God's bombers.

Also you might wanna check your water texture settings in the game's conf.ini file because it looks like it's trying to render them for the wrong type of video card, which gives you the black water on Perfect mode. You'll want Water=2 for ATI cards or 3 for Nvidia cards.
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Daidalos posted an update video for 4.13.1 patch.

Man, I sure was looking forward to modeled running gear on trains! it does actually look nice though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7AECUkc6zQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5Noy8F67SY
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Picture of airplane followed by shitpost
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Why is this falling to page 10 so quickly? Was there some new mobile hentai cash shop FPS released?
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>>133984351
Most likely just some shitposting bonanza on /kspg/ or /ksg/
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>>133982001
You forgot to post a picture of the plane that is 10x better at attracting shitposters
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>>133946721
In real life you use a "flow", moving methodically through the systems and selecting them to the appropriate position in an orderly fashion. You then use the checklist to move through and confirm everything is properly configured.
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>>133907946
the e with the umlaut on it is pronounced "yo".

It's just a shitty transliteration on the author's part.
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>ACfags and Armafags can't take the hint
There is a reason the OP explicitly states that you faggots are not welcome.
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OPS ARE GO

GET IN TS
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>>133974809
I did not know that

Also, did you land that thing?
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God's helicopter
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HOLD BACK THE 404
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Flew my first night mission in this campaign tonight. My target was an army supply base while a Korean flight in my package was to attack the adjacent airbase.
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Shortly after meeting up with the Korean flight, AWACS called out a flight of 4 MiG-21s. The Koreans ahead of me turn to engage and fire off a volley of AMRAAMs. I turn towards the targets and tell my wingman to fire on one of them.

After the missile goes active I turn back towards the target and make my run.
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>>133998667
Fuck I love Kodachrome
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To my dismay, after the Koreans presumably fire off all their AMRAAMs they decide they've had enough action for the day and turn home before dropping bombs on their primary target.

After my wingman and I get bombs on target and hit our marks we turn back home while taking some light AAA fire. The flight home was pretty uneventful.
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>>134001546
>>134001259
>>134000989
BMS looks comfy af tbhfamaliaalalal
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>>134000989
>>134001259
>>134001546
TL;DR:

>Package to destroy airbase (Korean flight) and adjacent supply base (my flight)
>On the way, Koreans get distracted by MiG-21s
>Wingman downs one of them
>They shoot the the rest down and decide to go home
>My flight destroys target
>Airbase remains completely untouched
>Wingman and I each shoot down a helpless MiG-19 each on the way back
>Wingman: 2 A-A kills 1 A-G kill
>Me: 1 A-A kill 3 A-G kills
>Mission result: Failure
>Airbase undamaged
T-thanks ROKAF.
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>>134001546
What would you say is the amount of time you needed to get from install to campaign competent in BMS?
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>>134002314
1 hour from install to campaign. Some specifics of this video are outdated because it's 4.32, but the majority of it still applies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU3pmXvnc0k

Probably a few missions after that to get used to the flow of campaign missions and completing a flight in general. Stuff like talking to tower, knowing how to fly your waypoints, and getting shot down a few times because you get confused in the huge furball that is the opening hours of the war.

It gets easier as you go, and you'll probably want to practice some of the weapons in a training mission before you do it live. Mavericks in particular can be a bit finicky, especially because they've gotten more complicated since 4.32.
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>>134002746
Oh cheers - that's perfect, and hilariously on topic.

I'll have to give it a crack now - haven't gone near it til it was still vanilla Falcon 4.0
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>>134003152
>>134002746
>>134002314
>What would you say is the amount of time you needed to get from install to campaign competent in BMS?
Install = about 5 minutes
Binding shit through the in game menu without modifiers = about 5 minutes
Binding shit through the excel sheet = 30 minutes
Being able to turn on the F-16 = 20 minutes
Being able to fly the F-16 = 20 minutes
Being able to engage things in A2A = 30 minutes
Being able to engage things in A2G with the huge array of weapons you're given = 1 hour

that's how I'd estimate it

reminder to read the manual.
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>>134003676
Awesome, I'll have a read of the manual over a day or two and then get off my ass and fire it up
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>>134003152
Some random little Falcon BMS tips off the top of my head:

When using LGBs, make sure to set the laser from training to combat. (LIST > MORE > LASER > Select AG Laser > Enter (Or 0, I forget)

When doing patrol missions like BARCAPs, when you get on station tell AWACS on your on station, and just fly between your two patrol waypoints. Only leave the area once your patrol duration is over, and when you do make sure to tell AWACS you are no longer on station. Also don't stray too far from them or else mission command gets mad and calls you a failure.

Get used to ordering your wingman to do stuff. It's a great way to conserve ammo on your own plane, and for attacking large numbers of targets there's just no way you can do it all alone. Having dissimilar loadouts can be helpful as well, for example in a DEAD mission take bombs (I like SDBs) to kill the launchers, but have your wingman take HARMs so he can hit the radars before you get there and you can maximize the number of bombs you can carry. Pic related, a mission where I did that.

Sometimes, your target area gets too hot and you'll need to abort a mission. It's better to save your plane than it is to suicide into a crazy target area. Your squadron (if you decide to stick with one the entire campaign) has a limited number of planes so don't throw them away.

Avoid the temptation to linger in your target area. Especially in the early stages of the campaign, you're going to be intercepted by defensive fighters and it's very easy to underestimate them and get overwhelmed. Remember, your mission is to hit your targets then get out.

And yes, read the manual if you have questions. Falcon has very good manuals.

>Falcon BMS Manual: General game questions like how to play the campaign
>Falcon Training: The manuals for the training missions, which are very good
>TO-BMS1F-16CM-1: General flight stuff
>TO-BMS1F-16CM-34-1-1: Weapon stuff
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>>134000989
>>134001259
Those ground textures are hideous
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>>134004286
Awesome thank you!
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>>134000989
>>134001259
>>134001546
>>134002209
>>134002746
>>134004286

I actually really want to actually make a attempt to figure out how to work BMS, all I want to fly is a clickable 4th gen fighter and the Mirage 2000 in DCS isn't turning me on. I just really don't like delta-wings, and the missile range sucks.

Also I want to figure out to play BMS so I can start singing along with Dos gringos
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>>134004943
What exactly do you need help with?

My expertise with BMS is limited but I have got it to work and flew multiple missions
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>>134004943
>all I want to fly is a clickable 4th gen fighter
This plus a singleplayer that's actually worth a damn are why I play Falcon. DCS also has no soul.
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>BMS clickable cockpit is inferior in "tactile" feel to DCS
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>>134005958
Really? I love how chunky all the switches in BMS sound when you click them. I guess to be fair I mostly fly the MiG-21 so maybe the A-10C is different, but I don't think flipping switches feels as good in DCS. BMS also has the sticky mouse for clicking in the cockpit which makes it easier to click on stuff, especially with TIR.
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>>134006257
It's weird and feels less responsive to me as compared to DCS, It doesn't help that BMS prefers a full HOTAS + track IR setup while all I have is a cheap 3D pro and a pair of CH pedals. I'll get around to it when I can finally afford a HOTAS.
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>>134004286
You missed out the most important tip.

Corner velocity is 300-450 knots. Stay at this range in order to turn fight well.
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>>134005313
All I'm trying to learn is what switch does what or how to actually get the thing off the ground. I'm thinking about reading the manual of the F-16 when I'm doing a +10 hour flight to Las Vegas. Also I wanna learn about the A2A parts of the F-16
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>>134010772
If you're wanting to learn the startup, read the tutorial manual and the first tutorial. That tells you all you need to know to get off the ground. It includes a brief explanation of what everything you're turning on does, so it's a great short overview of the F-16.
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>89 unique posters
>assuming half of them play DCS makes it approx. 40
>only like 8 people at the most are ever in the teamspeak

We could have ops and fuck around on servers every night. Play big co-op campaigns, maybe even make a squadron or some shit.

Instead we let the thread almost die every hour
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>>134014152
>playing with people on 4chan
>Dealing with severe autists and memespouters.
From experience, it's almost universally a terrible idea.
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>>134014152
Too many attention whores in TS
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>>134014152
>anything good ever coming out of idling in a teamspeak server
This isn't my first rodeo.
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>>134014621
>>134014741

People in the Teamspeak have been pretty cool every time I'm in there.
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I go away for a week and this place is all but dead, wtf happened?
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>>134018193
Blue flag ended, no new content for a while and no new announcements of new content recently. Less people are taking the bait of shitposters and shitposters have reduced their shitposting due to getting less attention.
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>>134018712
>Blueflag
Didn't red win?
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>>134021634
Yup, there was some controversy at the end and many blufor tears as well
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>>134021634
yee
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>>134021634
Yeah, but some of them cheated.
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>>134021807
How so?
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>>134018712

>tfw skipped Blue Flag but it sounds like it was pretty fun
>I'm mediocre in fast movers, clueless in helos, and probably still don't know a lot of useful stuff in the A-10
>would feel like a useless shit letting my team down

Ah well, next time. That's what I tell myself every time.
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>>133849049
git gud
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>>133884912
it's amazing how angry people can get over videogames, isn't it
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>>134021927

Someone was joining the Blue tac commander slot and setting all their SAMs to hold fire.
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>>133938013
>>133937857
>>133937650
>>133937462
>>133937332
>>133937213
>>133962107
Did you or anyone else itt play B-17 The Mighty 8th?

Its fucking aviation PTSD simulator where you are guaranteed to get mutilated by ackack plus operating the bombsight is a fucking bitch of a chore.

Its immensely satisfying though when you've got all your non-essential crew members performing medical work on the wounded, your co-pilot has had his head blown off and you're down to 2 engines and you still manage to limp back across to england to crash land in a field in Kent
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>>134023075
>not including pigcraine
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>>134022317
It was fun at times if there was a coordinated group in TS and JTAC that you could rely on. Other times it was a disorganized air quake fest no different from the usual.
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>>133927684

Why the fuck are you using the snake? Set the radar in V-Scan, or Boresight mode, lock the thing in front of you, place the pipper on it, and blow it out of the sky with remarkable accuracy.
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So I was trying to trim my MiG-21 and it wouldn't work. I reset the auto pilot and it just sent my plane nose down fast as fuck and I couldn't recover.

Did i forget some switch that powers the trim or something? I could see the up/down switch on the front of the stick moving but it wasn't doing anything to my trim.
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>>134026334
There is a switch that powers the trim, right hand side vertical panel at the top.
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>>134014152
Used to fly with the TS, then the memoverlord's drama happened, now I just want you TS circlejerkers and attentionfags gone
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Question about BMS

Whenever I push the nose down to quickly I get an avionics fault and master caution warning

what gives? Am I putting too many Gs on my bombs and damaging shit? Shouldn't the flight computer prevent that?
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>There's a simulation general on /vg/
>It didn't die immediately after 3 posts

HOLY FUCK BRB UPDATING DCS AND REINSTALLING SILENT HUNTER 4 WITH TMO
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>>134031834
>SILENT HUNTER 4 WITH TMO

Get dangerous waters instead and operate with us
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>>134031834
No love for BMS?
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>>134025853
That's what I meant.
In 1.5.3 at least, it's still awful to use.
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>increase all DCS graphics settings to higher levels
>performance improves

aiite
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>>134034667
Probably a some shit being offloaded to the GPU instead of being done on the CPU.
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>>134031091
>Am I putting too many Gs on my bombs and damaging shit?
Probably. Check the PFLD (looks like a second DED above the caution lights) - it should tell you what exactly is faulted.

>Shouldn't the flight computer prevent that?
Nope. Only thing that Cat III does is limit the AoA to minimize departures. It's up to the pilot to not exceed G limits of the stores.
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hey dumbies. instead of spending thousands on pcs and replica USB controllers, why not just do the real thing?

kek
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>>134031091
Just pull some really hard G's and that'll fix your problem
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Are we getting a 1.5 update today?
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>>134037582
Maybe today
Maybe 2 weeks
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>>134035665
Here is your (you)
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>flying a barcap right at the start of a new campaign

fucking madness
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>>133886231
>flying drunk
>ISHYGDDT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2eJkJBwxsI

>what the fuck are we doing
>only sane person was the atc
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>>134039116
>look down at FCS
>white dots everywhere
>DECLARE!
>DECLARE!
>DECLARE!
>DECLARE!
>DECLARE!
>DECLARE!
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>>134039116
Of all the things BMS has, why the fuck does it not have IFF
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>>134039615
They're quite serious about the sim aspect of sim. Hence if they don't know about how it is displayed, they don't model.
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>>133993937
>not Hind
Shitter spotted
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Really looking forward to ground radar in DCS, wonder how they're gonna implement it
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>>134039192
Been there, decided to dip into the whiskey after a day of drinking to fly ops with bros. Apparently I downed an F-15 and then spent 20 minutes trying to refuel from an AWACS.
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>>134040880
that's a nice heli you got there.
be a shame if something were to

happen to it
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>>134041253
>spent 20 minutes trying to refuel from an AWACS.
Oh for fuck's sake.
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>Be F16
>carry 6 mavericks and 4 amraams
>kill 6 MBTs
>and 4 Migs while I'm at it

BESTPLANE
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>>134041668
>
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>>134041668
Rockeyes are broken as fuck. Should use those whenever you feel safe to do so.
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>>134039742
Probably with a square and an X over it, on the HUD
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>>134041668
>shooting down 3rd and 2nd gen fighters in a 4gen one is an achievement
>tfw you'll never be this delusional
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>>134043260
>friends request I mod the map to add some of the newer planes in 4.33 that has cockpits
>N.Korean side now has 6 Su-30MMKKABCDEFG and a lend lease F-22
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>>134041253
wheres the stick WHERESs THEsSTiiICk
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>Navy aircraft carrier group moves into contested South China Sea

DW mission for this when?
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>>133728520
>arma 3
>nonwelcome

I journey across boards to find an arma group and this is the fucking shit I find?
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>>134045883
Just post it anyway, if it isn't shitposting I'm sure it will be fine.

lest the /wgg/ers throw a tantrum.
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>>134046008
basically I'm just looking for an arma 3 group. Totally willing to download any mods and give it a test run. My old group fell through so I'm looking for some tacticool shit.
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>>134045883
>>134046008
>>134046058
Fuck off.
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>>134046058
Well the 4chan ArmA scene is kinda dead at the moment.

I think BromA still plays? a3g is long dead and Murshun was on ice and is planning to play again iirc.

>>134046103
Hello /wgg/!
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>>134046103
why are you so hostile?

is arma not a simulator?
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>>134046219
no it's not a sim

and to answer your question, your best bet is unitedoperations.net. they're an old stable community that play games daily and have large weekend sessions without any application/training bullshit. the down side is they're basically milsim. otherwise there are literally no other decent groups out there
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>>134046219
>this again
I'll bite, Arma has quite possibly one of the worst communities of autistic man-children on the 'chon. You give that game any quarter and the shitposting fags who play in turn up in force.

Source: see /wgg/ for the week they welcomed A3 posts to increase their traffic.
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>>134046427
how exactly is it not a sim though?


thanks for the reference though friend.
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>>134046219
Because the 4chan Arma community is utter shit and has the power of killing every thread it's allowed in, and no Arma is not a sim.
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>>134046454
>>this again

i literally never come to /vg/ im just looking for an arma group. 2 months ago you had a general, now you vilify arma 3. I can't keep up with your contraianism.
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>>134046514
>implying the occasional ArmA post can kill /simg/

How do you kill that which has no life
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>>134046580
>occasional ArmA post
That's a funny way to spell shitposting sprees.
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>>134046574
>2 months ago you had a general
Which died thanks to shitposting, nearly 6 months ago.

>now you vilify arma 3.
/simg/ and /a3g/ have like 5 people in common and the majority are hated for being relentless shitposters.
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>>134046695
ah okay im sorry.

not meaning to shit up the board. just got kicked out of my a3 group because an autistic powerhungry team lead.
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>>134046953
>an autistic powerhungry team lead.
Honestly it's depressing the type of player Arma attracts. It can be a fun game but it has a ridiculous percentage of spergs, which is a shame.
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>>134047115
well he was some neet from fucking denmark and I'm an IT wageslave that has like 4 hours a day for viday in America so we did NOT mesh.

Wanted me to give my soul for 6 hour training sessions and I straight up could not make them.

Called me a flaking faggot so I said get fucked.

Rest is history.
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>>134046464
It doesn't model anything about being an infantry soldier particularly well
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>>134047319
What were you expecting?

QWOP-style controls?

Anyway, ACE does a pretty good job of making combat more than just a twitch shooter.
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Gods Plen
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>>134045883
They were too cancerous to stand themselves and dissolved. /simg/ and /wgg/ wisely bar them from entry because they are too autistic to be around other human beings, even by our standards.

Go make an ArmA general and see what happens. Otherwise fuck off and post on /v/ about it.
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>>134047397
Why not play Project Reality though? It's maybe a bit less detailed in gameplay but I find it a lot more approachable than ArmA. ArmA just feels too clunky for me, and all the guns are retardedly accurate even with just iron sights.
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>>134046953
And thus you understand why ArmA isn't welcome.
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>>134047771
makes sense. I just thought people could evaluate rather than just bar ALL people who want casual Milsim action.


I guess ill never have fun with arma again.
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>>134047697
Not him but

>Bullets go where you aim them
>This is a bad thing
PR fags are even worse than ArmA fags. The one redeeming thing about ArmA is it's the only 'milsim' tryhard game that actually gets guns right. PR's gunplay is the dumbest shit ever put into an FPS because of a shit engine that doesn't support actual weapon sway, and the mod in general is made for airsoft babbies.
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>>134047893
>I guess ill never have fun with arma again.

now you're getting it
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>>134047697
PR is fun but it's a different kind of fun.
The fun of ArmA is trudging along on various military operations with a bunch of mates and playing solider whereas the fun in PR is simply tactical PvP.

It's actually quite similar to why people play DCS, instead of being in a plane, you are a grunt.
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>>134047949
its sucks too. the game is a great platform. it just attracts fucking shitters

Like dark souls. it doesn't attract hardcore gamers, it attracts "hardcore gamers" you get me?
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>>134047893
>>134046574

Honestly, it's for the best. See what happened when /wgg/ experimented with A3.

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/130561258/#130586141
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>>134047397
The movement could be a lot more fluid, fatigue is stupidly modelled and so is body armour etc, radios are also modelled poorly and there's no wind
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>>134048160
i wonder where those cretins lurk in the meantime
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Don't mind me, just wasting away waiting for modules.
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>>134048103
>Like dark souls. it doesn't attract hardcore gamers, it attracts "hardcore gamers" you get me?

That's a good thing for Dork Souls though, as players are content for other players.
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>>134047943
I'm not saying PR's system is perfect, but I dislike how easy it is to hit your target in ArmA. You always have perfectly lined sights even when you're getting suppressed by enemy fire, which makes it easy to hit targets even hundreds of meters away.
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>>134048323
dark souls is mediocre lets not fuck around

also add me on steam so I can finish DS2
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>>134048396
DS2 is the only mediocre one.

and no, since DaSIIIs announcement I will never install Dark Souls II or sotfs ever again

I even own a Ps3 copy, fuck me.
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>>134048380
Being suppressed jerks your shit all over the place, you're not accurately hitting distance targets when your rifle is flailing about.

PR's system is full retard and is the reason 90% of the game is just retards forming gun-lines and being static pussies.
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>>134048541
JUST
POST
STEAM
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>>134048542
I don't honestly mind PR's shooting system all that much, it feels like a good balance between the shitty engine and realism. I'm more annoyed by the retarded vehicle balance that's appeared in the recent updates. Anti tank kits are even more limited, but a LAW isn't even a guaranteed kill on a light APC anymore, let alone an IFV. And autocannons do hardly anything to APCs now, you have to get dozens of hits on a paper-armored APC to kill it, which usually means that they just run away if you manage to surprise them. I hope that this is due to all the good devs migrating to Squad and it'll be better in this regard.
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>>134047478
NO IFF
O

I
F
F
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>>134049052
>PR gives everyone and their mother AT
>PR also makes vehicles take 5 centuries to spawn for no real reason, even when it makes no sense from a realism standpoint for entire battles between conventional armies to hinge entirely on two tanks.
Gee I wonder why survivability got buffed.
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>>134047115
especially the kids who are like these war-hungry little bastards.

I swear to god, it depresses me in this weird passive way
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>>134048541
>implying das2 was bad
>Implying any of the -Souls games are bad

>Implying every community isn't full of shitters

>Implying that From hasn't already announced the return of fucking soul memory

And yes, I did just slaughter scrubs in Demon's Souls with shitter tactics while playing as the Old Monk. Firestorm as soon as they enter the gate and then knockdown-cheesing with the Greatsword all day errday, baby
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>>134049314
Reducing respawn times for vehicles would've made a lot more sense though. Now they're way too good to be realistic.

Another thing that triggers my autism are the planes in PR. Since AA is practically crippled now, a good pilot is practically invulnerable to any ground AA. They nerfed ground to air missile accuracy from around 50% to somewhere around 10%, and that's only after you manage to maintain your lock through flares and the limited sight range. There's just no point to even trying to shoot down ground attack planes anymore unless the pilot is a complete retard.
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>>134049694
Please fuck off back to /dsg/ and take the Ace Combat faggots with you.
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>>134049694
souls games are legit, yes.

are they as good as memers say they are? fucking no

I put 500 hours in ds1 and 100 into ds2 but that was enough. its all method at that point and not spontaneous.
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>>134049747
It's going to be pretty funny if the new SACLOS SAM outperforms IR.

The fucking Blowpipe is going to beat the Stinger, just you wait.
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>>134049747
God forbid you have plentiful vehicle usage in a game that keeps pushing 'hurr maps so big xDD' gimmicks. Even ArmA generally avoids becoming a 'walking simulator' unless you're playing some gayz mod or something. There's no reason for vehicles to take more than a minute to spawn in PR when ever squad has at least light AT at bare minimum and other vehicles to contend with(Not even counting aircraft).

Half of PR's problems stem from game mechanics that make everyone play passive as fuck to unrealistic levels anyway.
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>>134049065
Probably not a huge deal when you've no radar missiles anyway.
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>>134049769
The big draw of a new Souls game for me is the new areas, and DaS 2 had a weird compilation of some of the best and worst areas in the series.


Also, sims

I kind of want a Korea map for DCS
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>>134050065
Half the fun of PR is stomping the passive players though. If you have a squad with good communication, you can easily flank enemy lines and destroy their static gun lines. Especially if you have enough people for an IFV with a dismount squad. Playing passive isn't the best strategy, it's just what the squads of random people are limited to.
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>>134050065
You know, I always wondered what it's like to command the true autism squad.

A Logistics and Transport Trucks
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>>134047248
Holy shit, you're talking about Rasmus and his fucking badger squad, aren't you?

I was in there too and the majority of people were cool, but fuck man, Rasmus is like the bastard love child of Stalin and Hitler. He threw autism fits everytime people were not walking in a straight line while under fire and shit. Thank god I left that shit a while ago. Now enough with the shitposting and back to the lecture at hand.

Huey best helicopterfu
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>>134050361
>best and worst areas in the series.

full heartedly agreed. I was just playing through it. Loving the game until black gulch then I drop it faster than a prom date baby.
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>>134050575
holy shit dude THATS THE EXACT GROUP IM TALKING ABOUT? who are you? i'm jeff.
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>>134049694
>>Implying that From hasn't already announced the return of fucking soul memory


So far it seems to be exactly like Dark Souls, SL based matchmaking is already confirmed, got to be ember form to summon, can get invaded in ember form without/without phantoms

This will truly be the best souls game


1.5.4 patch WHEN.
I want my slightly less shit M2000C radar.
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>>134050991
say what? they said they were doing away with soul memory and adp
>>
only time this general gets activity is when it's discussing pr, arma, or ds
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>>134051080
well shit dawg. good to hear from you again. If you even remember me. you were the british guy, I remember. I'm glad I wasn't the only one that wasn't pissed at rasmus' bullshit.
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>>134051070
I was quoting the other guy.
They are.
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>>134049065
who needs IFF when you decide who gets to live or not
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>>134051080
>>134051168
oh fuck or were you the german guy?

boffinbox was the british guy, crashpilot was the german guy right?
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>>134051264
yeah, but please lets not namedrop too much around here, I would rather not be associated with that shit anymore

instead, lets talk about planes
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>>134051446
my bad.

also a10 is a literal meme plane.
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>>134051446
A-10 a shit t-b-h

Hideously expensive & antiquated piece of junk kept in service by aggressive lobbying.
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>>134051761
b-but anon "brrrrrrrrrrrrrrt?" amirite?
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>>134051550
>>134051761
>Assmad lockheed lobbyist and slavboos
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>>134051761
And reddit brrrrt memes.
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>>134051550
>>134051761
>also a10 is a literal meme plane
>expensive & antiquated

REEEEEE

A-10 a best, can even land on carrier without even designed for it and without using the coward breaking cables. You guys are just mad a cheaper plane introduced in 1972 can do better CAS than you will ever do.
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>>134052451
>REEEEEE
Fuck off, retard.
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>>134052451
>cheaper
citation needed

You know how much it costs to keep ancient aircraft flying? Maintenance hours per flight hour and service costs skyrocket when you keep rusting old pieces of shit in use long after the airframes start falling to bits.

B-52 is the exception since they made an insane number of spare parts in the initial production run.
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>>134052451
>than you ever will do

I'm not a fucking plane, no shit it can do better than me.
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>>134052958
>not identifying as plane-kin
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>>134052451
>can even land on carrier
lol
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Anyone got some good tank sim games?
I only know of T64 tank command, T-34 vs Tiger, Steel beasts and this PS1 game - Panzer front.
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>>134050112
It's a big deal when it means you can't tell what's on your scope is enemy or not so you have to waste time and fuel flying up to it so you can get within 500m to see what it is.

To say nothing of mixed servers (which are the unfortunate majority) where an F15 or Su27 could be enemy or friendly and you have no way of possibly knowing.
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>>134053370
http://store.steampowered.com/app/286280/
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>>134053678
fair point, but I hope we'll see a new era of 70s servers with 21, F5, helicopters, trainers & GCI with no 4th gen shittery.
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>>134053678
Declare?
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>>134053678
bogey dope?
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Hey /simg/ rate my 6 year old brother's first modelling attempt
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>>134053720
Whoa, that looks really good. Thanks!
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>DCS SALE
>hooo boy dis gon be gud
>see this
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
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>>134053908
>no elevators
Good job it's just an SFM or that would be a problem.
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>>134053908
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>134053974
They were attached but he broke them off playing with it
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>>134053908
Kek'd at the filename
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>>134053908
better than my first model where I tried to speed run gluing and painting in one afternoon
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>>134051446
the a-10 looks like a fuckin joke, and is enjoyed by the dumbest humans alive
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Is it wrong to enjoy playing war sims, but hate military people and everything related to them IRL?
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>>134053781
>>134053889
I can name on 0 fingers how many servers I've played on with AWACS in the past 6 months.

The best you can do is be on a server TeamSpeak and hope that everyone is in it, try to call raygun, and hope that guy responds. Or I guess the server has a Blue Flag like GCI slot and again just trusting people be on TeamSpeak but neither of these things are likely to happen.
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>>134054357
It's a bit edgy.

>>134054396
I think we'll see AWACS on F-5 v 21 servers, it was on the 21 v Mirage server after all.
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>>134054357
In the end, these are games and are made for fun. It's just another genre to play and enjoy.
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>>134054396
>I can name on 0 fingers how many servers I've played on with AWACS in the past 6 months.
Blame it on DCS still being unfinished.
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Is there a way to get those missile trails to show up in your replay on the map in DCS? Or are those actually BMS replays and they just look identical? I'm trying to learn air to air combat and they'd be helpful or at least interesting to look at.
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>>134053908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3p_VuPIS2c
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>>134055140
You're probably thinking of Tacview which is a separate program. Just download that and set it up for DCS.
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>>134055140
Do you mean tacview?
It's an external program that works with many flight sims.
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>>134055279
>>134055283
Oh, okay thanks. That sucks though, why couldn't they just have nice in-game replay players.
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MERs of 6 Mk82s look tasty, has anyone seen them before?
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>>134055283
>It's an external program that works with many flight sims.
I'm pretty sure it works with IRL INS based systems as well.
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Managed to beat the Su-27 intercept mission for the first time. I realized I have to order the AI wingman to do something, otherwise it's just going to follow me and do nothing. Air quake is kind of fun, although the shitty RWR makes it hard to avoid enemy missiles. Also it'd be nice to have some warning of IR missiles before they hit you.
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>>134055536
The ingame replay feature is a big fucking mystery to me. I saved a mission replay once had a look at it. It was the same mission alright, but there was some crazy desynch going on in comparison how the mission actually went. For example in the mission my wingman was always close to me, but in the replay he crashed 2 minutes after takeoff for no fucking reason, also my missiles didn't hit at all although in the real mission I killed 4 planes with them. After that in the replay I got shot down, which never happened in the mission.

It's like you're looking at replays from an alternate reality.
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>>134057128
>Also it'd be nice to have some warning of IR missiles before they hit you.
HEAD
ON
SWIVEL.
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>>134057234
Replays in DCS are completely broken. Before 1.5 they were only mostly broken.
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>>134057128
>Also it'd be nice to have some warning of IR missiles before they hit you.
That would be a wingman.
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>>134057128
Su-27s RWR is really damn good at dodging incoming AMRAAMs because of the signal strength ring. It makes me wonder whether that's just a happy coincidence or not.

Western RWR on the other hand is really good at overall situational awareness but doesn't give as detailed info on the thing that's trying to kill you right now. It's especially crappy at helping you judge distance on missiles that are active on you. Which again, I wonder if thats just a natural consequence of Russia not having an effective active radar air to air missile.
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>>134057346
It's really painful without headtracking though. I'm still contemplating whether or not I should shell out the cash for a TrackIR or one of the cheaper alternatives. Anyone have any experience with both? Is the TrackIR actually better in some way or is it so expensive just for moneymaking?

>>134057848
What do you mean by the signal strength ring? You mean the distance estimator thing?
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>>134048269
You should play DCS or other sim, people usually and i say as a community, unless you are in a super cereal squad or something, there are plenty casual ones around.
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>>134058137
>What do you mean by the signal strength ring? You mean the distance estimator thing?
I'm not him, but get this into your head early on: It does *not* show distance, only the strength of the emitter. Obviously this increases as a plane gets closer to you, but is wildly different for different planes.

ie: a MiG-21 can be almost on top of you and still have a weak signal, whereas an F-14 can be a great distance away and be broadcasting the same signal strength as a much closer F-16.
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>>134058446
Makes sense, though that still makes it really hard to know how close the AMRAAM is to hitting you. I guess you should just estimate based on the range it was launched from, which you can usually tell from your radar.
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>>134058137
>What do you mean by the signal strength ring? You mean the distance estimator thing?
That's a signal strength ring, it doesn't estimate distance it estimates signal strength your brain does the distance estimation.
>It's really painful without headtracking though. I'm still contemplating whether or not I should shell out the cash for a TrackIR or one of the cheaper alternatives. Anyone have any experience with both? Is the TrackIR actually better in some way or is it so expensive just for moneymaking?
It's also painful with headtracking, you usually can't see the missile and won't see the launch you need to learn when you can be launched and when you can't and learn to not stare at the hud so much.
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>>134058737
no if you have 1 dot left and an amraam has been launched at you it's really close.
If the last dot is filled you are about to get slapped.
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>>134058737
No matter the radar type, when it gets to all but one of the lights filled it means he is literally inside your asshole. It can get a little confusing since it's not really a linear scale, you'll get the hang of it though.
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>>134058857
>>134059040
All right, thanks for the help. I watched the replay and looks like you're right. The first missile misses by a lot and the signal strength never goes that high, but the second one fills up all but one dots.
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>>134059879
You can tell when an amraam is defeated because even though it might still be tracking, the signal strength stops increasing and starts falling. Just remember the SPO-15 doesn't work when you are not in reasonably level flight.
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>>134059879
>That maneuvering

don't pull your nose up you bleed to much speed if it's a player he'll wreck you easily.
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>>134060274
Isn't that how you defeat missiles though? Do you mean I was turning too hard, or should I do something different entirely?
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>>134060604
It looked like a pretty pointless maneuver to me desu. I don't know what happened before that webm though.
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>>134060604
Speed is life, you need to keep that speed up, the best way in the su-27 is to start above the enemy and end up below him since the R-27R works best in a look up situation.
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>>134058737
>that still makes it really hard to know how close the AMRAAM is to hitting you
Actually the complete opposite.

First thing to note is that you can't know exactly when the missile is launched, although you can guess based on what the launching plane is doing. If they suddenly start turning away from you for example, that means he's just launched. Remember that lock warning does not mean launch, and even then most people will fire from TWS, which gives no lock warning whatsoever.

There's a very easy way to tell if an AMRAAM has gone active and is now tracking you. You'll get a missile launch warning, but the signal strength ring will show almost empty. (This is assuming the missile wasn't launched from very close.) The ring will then quickly fill up to max strength. Keep in mind that an active missile will fill increase in signal strength at a rate significantly faster than anything else can.

Once you know that an AMRAAM is tracking you, you can react and plan your next move. In terms of trying to actively dodge them, my rule of thumb is to be ready for your maneuver by the time its 4 dots away. At 3 or 2, depending on how quickly it's closing, do your maneuver and do it hard. That'll usually be enough, but be aware that actively dodging an AMRAAM (versus just running away and running it out of energy, which is very easy and safe, but puts you in the defensive) can make you very susceptible to the follow up that he almost certainly launched a few seconds after the first missile.

The SPO-15 is amazing at helping you dodge AMRAAMs, to the point where I wonder if it was specifically designed for it.
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>>134061390
One minor thing I want to add to this is that the lack of all that information is actually why SARH missiles like the Sparrow scare me. Unlike the AMRAAM you will know exactly when they launch, but you have no ranging information whatsoever and once that missiles motor runs out you'll never reacquire visual with it until milliseconds before impact.

Technically they're easier to defeat because chaff and beaming works probably better than it should in DCS, but the lack of information overall really worries me. You won't know if the missile has been trashes because they'll still be painting you for guidance, even if they missed.
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>>133758781
how do i score 140 units of simulation value?
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Daily reminder to download and set up BMS, we're playing ops on that shit.

There's literally no excuse.
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>>134064370
>There's literally no excuse.

Except I have to spend several hours wrestling with outdated and godawful menus in order to set it up.
With the results being that I can to play a single, boring, multi role fighter.
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>>134065167
What joystick do you have?
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>>134065167
t. babby who doesn't know how easy Falcon is to install these days

Falcon used to take all day just to get from opening a setup file to the main menu.
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>Bought the A-10C & Black Shark two and one week ago respectively
>DCS now doing a two-for-one bundle on these modules for the same price

Feeling pretty fucking mad.
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>>134065561
Should have bough em off kinguin homie, as I continually say in this thread.

I feel like a shill, but I just don't want peeps to pay more than they have to.
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>>134065489
I mean fuck, I remember being blown away that when I started 4.32 that it actually worked on its first boot without issues or tweaking. And then when I ran through some missions without a crash at all u was like holy fuck these mad Men actually did it.

Falcon is amazingly user friendly these days. The most complicated part is just getting your keybinds to taste but even that can be done 90% through the in-game menu because the 4.33 key files are laid out so logically and simply.
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Stop shilling that ripoff website you dirty turkroach. Just get a job and get off the autism bux and pay the extra 2 dollars.
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>>134065779

That's what I did ever since I saw it mentioned. However now DCS are doing that sale so I could have gotten both for the sale price
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With Sarhs dump chaff and do high G snaking, and as long as there is a launch warning expect that there's a missile guiding at you, the thing with sarhs is they have huge plumes so you can see them in DCS, at least while the motor is burning, and they are quite susceptible to ground clutter.
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>>134065960
No

On a sidenote, the mission I was making "Operation Zugdidi Freedom" is complete and ready for a trial run,
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>>134064370
There is actually. Because of a lack of modifiers, I am incapable of using the plane effectively, and therefore refuse to play BMS until I buy the Jerrie's X52.
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>>134066182
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>>134066307
this desu
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BMS is a shit game with a delusional elitest fanbase. Nobody wants to play it here because it's shit. When will you fags get that?
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>>134067723
your mom a shit
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>>134054357
It's a fun game to play when it's all just make believe and not an actual horrible war. And with flight sims in particular they are beautiful machines and air combat is very cool and playing the game with head tracking and a stick and throttle in your hands is more immersive than most games could ever be.

and hopping in a virtual fighter jet doesn't cost me and my country and outrageous eyewatering amount of money
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>>134054357
I just enjoy complex games, i don't really give a crap about whether the IFF symbology is accurate or not as long as it's complex and it fits into the overall gameplay.
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>>134068072
Reported.
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>>134066307
There's a crap ton of X52 profiles and key files on the forum and the XML has native support for X52 as well if you want to go that way.
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>>134070669
I know, I just don't have it yet. Next month, maybe.
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>>134069996
T-that's rude, apologize now!
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>>134023489
I've bandied about the idea, Silent Hunter in the sky does sound fun, but it looks a bit shallow, content-wise. Lots of stuff, but not a lot of depth.
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>>134071657
Reported.
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>>134071657
Stop pic fagging m8, we all know who you are.
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>>134073136
You mad kid?
I own this general. I'm the leader we need. Greg for president when?
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pleens
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>>134073781
Ban when?
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>>134080367
Never.
You can't ban me I'm too much of a meme at this point.
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>>134053296

Only because carrier is faster than A-10
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Movie ops tomarrow
What's a good time?
Also
Hunt for Red October
Or
Top gun
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>>134083595
Hunt for red october
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>>134085137
One ping, one ping only.
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OPS COMMENCING

GET IN TS
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>>134083595
Red October.
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>>134083595
Das Boot
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OPS
P
S

GET
E
T

IN
N
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>>133783635
180 to 145.

Geez, you're not gonna be removing any pantsu if you can't even memorize some numbers out of the poh! Get it together, anon!
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cmon guys, still have 4 slots free on ops
get on TS
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get in you cunts
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>>134086935
no
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>>134086935
>that feel when your at work
At least I'm making sheckles.
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>>134054357
https://www.reddit.com/r/wargame/comments/48lx42/meta_you_know_i_feel_like_we_should_draw_a_line/

back to /wgg/
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Picture of plane followed by shitpost
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>>134094406
picture of cute plane followed by smug post
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Have some some mirage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5C8MQcxdFU
Anyone know the song used in this?
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>>134083595
red memer pls
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>>134086935
Tfw already got drunk and not home, 15+ km awa from PC
I love you m8s, your Russki <3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuqf_6oplMc
For maximum enjoyment make sure to breath when he does
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Nice night ops to be honest family
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>>134098326
>>134098378
>>134098498
Night ops in DCS are ass because no nvgs on gods plane. BMS once again is better.

Don't forget your alarm clock when pulling g's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4laCspgsIbk
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>>134097302
Drunk people have no place in flight ops
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>>133961236
ye boi, beautiful aircraft
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there's a need of some more civil aircrafts up in here
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Is there OPS on right now?
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MORE OPS

GET IN TS
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>Starting ops this early
It's like none of you have jobs, jesus K rhist
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>>134101501
timezones le le le le le

it's only 22:38 famio
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>>134101864
It's 17:30 here but for those of us that work till 5pm/17:00 it's hard to get on the TS in time
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>>134102290
It's more or less impossible to get eveyone on at the same time since we have people more more or less every timezone apart from the poo in the loo ones.
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>>134101501
>>134102290
>having a job
>being an americuck
le le le le leeeegion
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>>134099767

>passed out ded as fuck at 5Gs

I hope that's on the way down from 8 or 9 or something. 5Gs is nothing. Even 6 isn't that bad at all.
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>>134103675
It was on the way up...
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>>134103507
>being an americuck
>Implying
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man this thread is super shit without me shitposting in it
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>>134103879

Fucking embarrassing. You don't even have to do any of the techniques they teach you at that point.
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>>134103507
God forbid some people need to make a living. It would be nice to be a loser neet with zero responsibility, but I have self respect.
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You guys wanna fly some ops?
Of course you fucking don't. You spend your entire time in this thread bitching and moaning about gods plane being too op.

Faggots.
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>>134104543
>being this triggered
Calm down and flip some more burgers :^)
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>>134104543
I could do without blowing 9-10 hours on commute+work every day.
>self respect
You mean pretending that you're better than you actually are? Kek.
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>>134104543
>self respect
Lel this guy.
>being a wage slave now means you are better than everyone else
If you won the lottery you would stop working too you piece of shit faglord.
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Jesus fuck you NEETs are autistic
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>>134106474
>impostors
Why not just play with labels on?
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>>134106560
M8, impostors are realistic
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>>134106560
Go and post on the forums how it's actually impossible to see anything IRL.
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>>134106560

Fuck off
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>>134106282
Jesus christ you normalfags are gay
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>>134106657
>seeing giant 100 foot sam sites from 30 miles away is realistic
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>>134108070
>not detecting sarcasm
calm down autismo
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Kek stay poor.
I kek every time eurocucks beg for games in the teamspeak. What's it like being a pathetic waste of space?
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>tfw you fly attack formation with your comrades to remove refugee
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So what's there to do in singleplayer DCS? Does it have an engaging dynamic campaign like BMS or is it just shit?
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>>134110285
It's just shit. Sterile, soulless shit.
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>>134072442
Its just an old ass game famiglia, i'd still play it but for some reason it always puts itself onto my lower resolution right monitor, much to my chagrin
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>>134110285
No dynamic campaign, the single player campaigns are pretty good. But beyond that it's reasonably limited without playing community content.
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>>134097302
<3 man
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>>134109952
>tfw refugee ships were armed and remove you instead
>>
plen
>>
DCS Vietnam never
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VShCXzhUbQ
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>>134115716
Videos like that make the Vietnam War look like a really fun vacation.
>>
So would you guys like to see a MiG21 air quake style mission? As in, spawn high up in the air with unlimited fuel and ammo and just duke it out.
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>>134120806
>spawn high up in the air with unlimited fuel and ammo and just duke it out.
For what purpose?
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>>134120806
No
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>>134121051
Idk just an idea for a non serious mission for some shits and giggles.
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>>134115716
>DCS Vietnam never
We're getting more time appropriate aircraft as time goes by, we already have a Vietnam style mod for the Caucasus map and third party devs do work on additional maps/theaters.
So I'm pretty sure we have a reasonably good chance for it. in 15 years ;_;
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>>134121770
when
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>>134121886
Now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzm4g-bYyz0
I'd kill a proper module.
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Turbocharged engine just quit out once at medium altitude. Not sure how my gear didn't shatter, probably just FSX being shit again.
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>>134122080
Wow that's a load of shit.
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Why are early Soviet jet prototypes so comfy?
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>>134122319
That's an understatement. It was a joke anyway. Your best bet is some older sim or FSX for non combat fuckery. For now.
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Page 10 faggots
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are there any decent flight sims that can be played with a gamepad?
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>>134126358
DCS, if you believe our resident Turk.
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>>134122178
Seeing FSX footage at an FPS higher than 10 is weird.
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>>134126358
>flight
fuck, I meant racing

>>134126451
I don't want to imagine how hard that would be
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>>134127378
Oh, well. It's tough for all the reasons you might think. I tend to try messing around with racing sims on a gamepad though because I just find it interesting and I started with Forza, which has phenomenal gamepad controls.

RaceRoom has surprisingly competent gamepad controls by default, but it's not "smart" the way Forza is. I don't think any of the PC sims are, because they just assume you're going to use a wheel.

Assetto Corsa, while limited in its options, has enough to tweak it to the point of making it fairly driveable. Supposedly there's a handful of really fast people on the leaderboards using gamepads too.

iRacing's gamepad support is shit.

I recall trying rFactor 2 with a gamepad, but I can't remember how well it worked. It has some steering assist options to make it feel sort of like Forza, so I think with enough tweaking you could get something useful. It had a lot of options.

I mean the real answer to your question is that most racing sims are playable with a controller, but it's going to take a lot of tuning to personal taste, and likely some assists.
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>>134127927
>RaceRoom
thanks, I'll check it out
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Rise of Flight any good?
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>>134128714
Yes. Also you can try it out for free so go and get to it.
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>>134128831
>Also you can try it out for free
Rather, you get two or three very capable planes for free.
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>>134128601
I have a hard time not sounding like a RaceRoom shill because it's my favorite, but it's fair to warn people that its pay model is FUCKED and SHIT.

RaceRoom is second only to iRacing in terms of cost if you decide to buy content, and if you want to buy content you should be looking up guides because the store and its pay model is obtuse and tricks you into spending more than you need to.

The "demo" (i.e., the free content) is pretty good though. The 2 classes you get for free are really fun to drive and very different. The two tracks are solid, with the fictional track having some deceptively difficult elevation changes.
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>>134129038
meh, I just plan on messing around with it for a bit
probably won't buy anything
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>>134133773
dead
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If I buy Falcon 4.0 on steam, can I turn it into BMS 4.33 while still using the steam version?
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>>134138010
BMS only checks for the .exe, it doesn't actually use any of the files from Falcon 4.

You're better off just grabbing it off of piratebay for that purpose, otherwise give it a try and if it doesn't work, get a refund
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>>134138010
Yes, but know that this new publisher that's selling it on Steam is why you can't download officially BMS anymore. There's some kind of unspecified legal hubub going on between the BMS team and this publisher.

All you need to install BMS is the original falcon4.exe, which you can get from anywhere. It, and a link to 4.33 are in the OP. BMS itself is completely standalone and doesn't use any of the original game's files.
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Does anyone here play Strike Fighters?
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>>134138927
I've messed around with it a decent amount. It's pretty novel as a sim-lite Vietnam era IL-2 46 style flight sim. Very modable too.
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>>134139212


I played it a bit too. Reminds me of the old janes sims which i should reinstall haha
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Didn't fly a Falcon mission tonight, so here's an old screenshot instead.
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>>134141373
Here's the fun I've been flying in those webms above.
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Anybody else get stutters in DCS when you zoom in?

The game runs 60 fps on max settings, but whenever I zoom into a "new" area, it stutters.

I get that its probably rendering stuff for the first time, but does anybody know any settings that reduce that stutter? Super annoying when I zoom in to try to spot a fighter off my nose, and the game lags out for like 3 seconds.
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>>134142551
I'm sure there's got to be some setting that increases render distance.
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>>134142551
Maybe increasing the preload distance? I'm not sure there's a way around those quick loading stutters.
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>>134099767
>flying MiG-21 sober
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>>134146016
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>>134146427
Fascist
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>>134143430
Radar alcohol cooled?
Pilot alcohol fueled!
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>want to download BMS
>forums do everything possible to stop it from happening.

What a bunch of faggots. I'll use the links in the OP, but for the average player? He will say fuck that and go back to DCS.
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>>134149062
They've gone through this before. I'm sure they will get everything sorted and iron out the issues between them and the new owners.
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I miss blue flag
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>>134150003
>no more blue flag
>falcon online balkans coming """""SOON"""""

it's awful
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>>134150101

How does Falcon online work? I'm thinking about trying to get into BMS
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>>134149062
I've started warming up more to the idea of BMS. How hard would it really be to set up properly? Are there existing profiles I can use for a TM Hotas X or do I need to fuck around with config files or excel or whatever else? If I'm smart enough to learn how to fly modules like the A-10C and Ka-50 and M-2000C pretty well then how does learning the BMS F-16 compare?
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>>134150643

bruh i can't even download it so I don't know

I played Falcon 4.0 as a little kid but I remember the dynamic campaign was gangster as fuck
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>>134150643
F-16 is an A-10C with a radar and air to air capabilities.
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>>134151418

yo does BMS 4.33 come with training missions
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>>134151573
I haven't played BMS but I do have it installed.
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>>134151573
Yes but each training mission is accompanied with a training document that you must read through and follow along with to accomplish the mission, there is no ingame prompts or instructions.
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>>134152728

Is the training document included with the game or is it separate somewhere? Shit just finished downloading.
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>>134152810
It's in the install folder with the manuals.
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New bread
>>134153728
>>134153728
>>134153728
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