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Old >>128854740

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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Amelia is a trap!

Yharnam is Carim!

Arianna is better girl!
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Repostan from old thread:

So what's the deal with the Fishing Hamlet?

From what I gather it was used by Byrgenwerth as some sort of Great One spawning pool, and Kos was supposed to fertilize all the female Great Ones you come across. But other than that I have no idea how else Byrgenwerth was involved.
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Anyone wanna help with Defiled Hotdog? Pass is bbg, ringing at fog.
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>>128899426
Is that what you got out of it?
Okay
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>>128899454
i was about to make exactly this same post, with exactly the same password

i'll help out and then ask for help later.
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Post favourite great ones
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>>128899574
Damn, son. I'll try to help ya with it after you help me.
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>finally finish the whole chalice extravaganza on my arc build
>totally disinterested in farming after doing every story chalice
maybe tomorrow
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>>128899426
>>128899632
Thanks anon.
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>>128899795
All I have left is Loran Darkbeast, the headless Bloodletting Beast, and Yharnam herself

then the Korean grinding begins
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>>128899454
not picking you up. been having trouble cooping lately. gonna restart ps4.
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>>128899607
>wake up
>moon presence standing over your bed
>wants to impregnate you with his great one seed

How do you respond?
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>>128899607
Probably Orphan just because he's creepy as fuck looking.

I also just like the regular Amygdalae.
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>>128899916
They also grabbed the Orphans umbilical cord while they were there. It's how Kos "granted" Rom eyes.
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>>128899274
I'm trying to finish off DLC stuff, beaten Orphan, but Laurence is giving me a lot of trouble for some reason. I got him into his second phase ONCE and I just can't get close to him, I had him circling me with swipes where I could slash away, but he kept catching me in his wide attacks.

What's the trick to beating this guy? +10 tricked Whirly is doing the damage, more or less, but it's slow.
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>>128900103
can he transform/trick my brain into thinking he looks like a chick?

if so i'm ok, if not, probably not
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Does SRRC have a level resrtriction?
Or do i just match the pass, look for co-op then wait 5 hrs
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Fuck it, I'll help you first, Luk. I'm out of insight.
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>>128900143
I thought Orphan had a very boring design.

Also,
>Orphan's voice gets thicker when he enters phase 2, along with the changes in his body
It would've been cool if he evolved more and more during the course of the fight, but I guess the point was that you killed him before he got the chance to turn into a full fledged Great One.
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Daily Vaati post here
What if the hair of the beasts are actually thousands of small black/grey tentacles?
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Can I get help for the abhorrent beast? I'm stuck on this one. Level 50, pass is"pls"
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>>128900430
you prefer your women with dicks?
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Is there a list of all the words that are censored?
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I'm here once again to remind you: If you've ever thought to yourself "man, fextra is kind of shit" then

stop using it

get the fuck on wikidot

do you see a page that could use more information? just update it, ya' dummy

you'll be happier
you'll have contributed to something useful AND avoided using a shit tier wiki that I know you want to bitch about using anyway

now I know what some of you are thinking
>b-but I play at BL150 and browse reddit, why would I ever use anything other than fextra?

and you're absolutely right, if you like fextra or don't think anything is wrong with it then just ignore my post
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>>128900593
I'm just a 3rd party who decided to help you both. So... still ringing at the srrc, if the other one wants our help then.
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>>128900935
Ah. Damn. I'll help the other guy, whoever he was.
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>can get superb 20.3% bolt gems in fishing hamlet
>no equivalent fire gems anywhere

Why
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>>128900632
Well, that's one way to handwave the wonky physics engine.
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@people ringing for diamond dogs

i got no fucking idea whats happening. was ringing small resonant for 10 minutes with no luck, and then i switch to beckoning and get a maria cosplay who died after getting stomped. now i have two cooperators what is happening here
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>>128900714
Thank you based doll
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>>128900749
No, but I'd prefer a woman with a dick to literal cthulu with a dick
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>>128901064
Jus grind hotdogs bro xDD
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Ugh, fucking hotdog. Sorry Witt. Hopefully you and Gregor can get him.
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>>128900913
Stop advertising their shit faggot

People will use whatever the fuck they want to
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>design character around beast claws as a fun gimmick
>obtain Loran chalice
>immediately after killing Amygdala remember that I'm REQUIRED to play through all the other chalices leading up to it before I can get the claws
TIME FOR GLORIOUS CO-OP
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>>128901693
make me
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>>128901604
man. what the fuck is a wheel/HMS build supposed to do when it has no access to the nourishing gems it needs.
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>>128901819
you only have to go as far as lower pthumeru and you don't even have to finish it.
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>the game doesn't guarantee you enough Ritual Blood 4 and 5 as you progress through chalices
>you have to grind in order to be able to grind

Who designed this?
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>>128902060
yes it does

follow the guide

it just so happens farming loran D4 is faster than dealing with any extra side areas
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>>128901885
I don't get it
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>>128902060
The same guy who thought it would be a good idea to make players farm for healing items.
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>>128901997
That's a good point actually, it isn't too terribly far. Still wish there was a way to get one outside of chalice dungeons though
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>>128902060
Getting 5s requires pretty much 0 effort, having to farm for 4s is only an issue if you don't follow the guide.
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>>128902229
who farms healing items?
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>>128902386
The players who aren't very good at the game, aka at least 3/4 of all players.
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>>128902223
Sanders is a socialist, a lot of his supporters are armchair communists who think taking shit from the rich and giving it to the poor works in reality.
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adeline is my waifu!
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>>128902223
communists hate private property
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>>128902386
people that suck at the game, or people that come back after a long time and get sidelined by one boss for awhile.
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>>128900356
Anyone?
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Twink pvp is fuckin boring.
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>>128902060
You don;t actually have to farm, it;s just that farming is faster than completing side areas, so farming allows you to skip every side area that has ritual blood(4) as a reward, which happens to be a lot of them.
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>>128902554
>>128902516
But socialism /= communism
Please leave /pol/
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>>128902602
twink pvp is only as fun as you make it.
Save your saifs for anti-twink ganksquads and stick to fun weapons that wouldn't otherwise be viable.
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Does anything from From's other games top this ost?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9zxXN1rx0
The dlc had some good ones but I don't think any of them come close, even Ludwig's imo.
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>>128902746
"The goal of socialism is communism." - Vladimir Lenin
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>try ludwig with chikage build
>cant beat him after 20 tries
>make strength build, try ludwig with pizza cutter
>beat him first try
Balanced™
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>>128902882
I said please leave /pol/
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>>128902223
Hes just a retard who tries to advertise for his shitty wiki then posts completely irrelevant reaction pics
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>>128902747
>lvl 40
>boom hammer
Haven't lost a single fight so far
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>>128902882
"My nipples are really hard right now." - Marie Antoinette
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>>128902884
I had the reverse happen.

I beat him first try with a +7 chikage on a twink, but when I went to make a str leaning quality, I struggled with him for a good while because I was using untricked beast cutter.
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>>128901404
>not wanting glorious tentacle lovin'
Your eyes have yet to open, anon.
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>arcane build can use about 3 weapons
>2 if you don't want to be a broccoli
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>burning out on the game
>doing chalices isn't fun anymore
>want to have all these builds but the chalices just ruin them because certain builds just get stuck on defiled

feels bad, friends. kind of want dark souls 3 soon so i can alternate between the two.
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Let's post our boring as fuck fc webbums.
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>>128902849
Gehrman's theme isn't even good. It suits the atmosphere of the fight, but it;s greatest achievement is being subdued enough to not compete with the rest of the atmosphere, which is entirely in its visual presentation.

If that song had been the generic chalice boss theme, you'd never give it a second thought. You're just associating the music with aesthetic of the final anime battle with the ancient master of the hunters in a moonlight field of flowers and saying the song is good because you like that image.

BB's music in general was fairly weak. Like every other souls game, it had maybe 2 or 3 decent tracks and the rest was generic, bland or drown out by indistinct latin chanting.
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>>128903301
What are the other two? Just curious, I want to try an arcane build soon.
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>>128903313
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>>128903418
Saw Spear and Threaded Cane.
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>>128903386
go away nobody agrees with you
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>>128903313
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>>128903418
Arcane builds work with a lot of weapons
Just because the scaling isnt great doesnt mean you cant use it.
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Could I get assistance with bsb in ailing loran.
Pw bbg
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>>128903301
arcane builds can use any weapon that doesn't have BLT or a little bit of arcane actually in the weapon. just add fire/bolt.
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>>128903386
Cleric Beast
First Hunter
The Hunter
Bloodstarved Beast
Ludwig
Maria
Kos
Laurence
Ebretias
Living Failures
Moon Presence
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>>128903301
>three weapons

Meanwhile, my arc build runs Wheel, Saif, Pizza Cutter, sometimes Parasite and whatever other weapons I want because Abyssal gems are fantastic.
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>>128903301
>>128903475
see
>>128903719
Youre honestly a dumbfuck if you think cane and spear are the best arcane weapons, holy fuck
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>>128903484
He's right though, at least with Gehrmans theme and the latin. Same with Marias theme. Both are top tracks but are ruined by the chorus imo.

>>128903448
Is that a lightning gem in your boomhammer?
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>>128903301
You mean Pizza, memeblade, moonblade, cane, saw spear/cleaver, saif and beast cutter are three weapons?
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>>128904057
Most of those require points into STR and SKL.
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>>128903654
Still need help with that?
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>>128903576
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>>128904196
Yeah. I'm ringing at the lamp
Trying to get bastard of Loran so I can go defiled
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>>128903923
>>128903386
>You're just associating the music with aesthetic of the final anime battle with the ancient master of the hunters in a moonlight field of flowers and saying the song is good because you like that image.
no im actually not, I really like how it sounds you fags.

>If that song had been the generic chalice boss theme
I definitely would, in fact terror iirc, the song that plays during watchdog and some other bosses in chalices, is one of my favorite
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>>128904373
Heh, I'm stuck on Defiled Hotdog, so, I'll help you out.
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>>128903386
Except most boss themes are excellent. For instance, Gascoigne's and Cleric Beast's are fantastic. Laurence's is it's own ecclesiastical theme fitting for a vicar with nods to the Cleric Beast theme. The ambient music for Yahar'Gul and Upper Cathedral Ward are atmospheric as fuck.
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>>128904460
If I could get srrc to work for me I can easily help you with hot dog in return
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>>128904461
The one reborn's also great. And Hail the nightmare is one of my favorite non boss song in any game ever.

Just the entirety of Yahar'gul was amazing in my opinion.
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Anyone interested in fighting living failures with me?
Preferably with a build not too stronk, not looking for getting carried here. I think I can do it on my own but coop is fun.
Pass is bbg, ringing at research hall lamp
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>>128904373
Ringing at the lamp.
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>>128904915
On my way.
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I got killed at 20 percent hibiki
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>>128904603
Really, the Hypogean Gaol song is your all-time favourite? It's just a stereotypical latin choir song.
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>>128899274
How the fuck do I kill Laurence? He either kills me in two-three hits or randomly one shots me.
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>>128904152
and?

you can use saif and beast cutter for just 3 points of investment
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>>128905147
I mean, alright I may have exaggerated. Its one of my favorite nonboss songs in this game. I shouldnt say of all time.
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Do you think Doll is actually ripped underneath that shawl and dress?
I mean, she's gotta have a pretty hard body, since she's made out of porcelain. Maybe she even has doll abs and stuff.
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>>128905097
That spinning cunt
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>>128905323
yeah but thats 3 points not put into arcane
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>>128905396
No.
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>>128905541
unless you're doing a parasite build where you actually want to level end beyond 15, you can make room for three fucking points and still get 50-70 arc just fine
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>>128905147
>what is atmosphere

The reverent chanting, which by the way, is muffled indoors, clear outdoors (it's not just random soundtrack bucko), lends importance to the area. Yahar'Gul is Mensis territory and means considerably a lot. Same as Upper Cathedral Ward where the Church hides Ebrietas.

But you're just a contrarian fuck so nothing I say will sway you. You're just here to argue.
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>>128905848
*tips fedora*
Agreed, good sire. You showed that uncultured contrarian swine.
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>>128905541
Fuck off then you cunt
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>>128899607
Ebrietas is cute! CUTE!
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/bbg/ can all agree tho right that the best video game soundtrack is nier gestalt & replicant right??
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>>128906062
All bloodborne girls are cute

even the witches
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>puts points into anything other than vit and arc
>calls it arcane build
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>>128906151
Yes. Never even played Neir and yes.
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kirkbro wanna try again? I just died
I'll repair my weapon first
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>>128906261
Especially the witches.
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>>128906151
What about Hotline Miami?
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Why does Miyazaki hate the Beast Claws so much? I love them so very much but every other weapon in PvP and a lot of them in PvE outclasses them. Someone post their webM's of them putting down shitters with their Beast Claws so I don't feel so bad
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>>128906560
alright you win
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>>128905941
Nice meme, friend.

Sorry about those big words!
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>>128906618
Beast claws and any close range weapon in this game needs max hyper armour all the time imo.

They are not balanced right.
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Thank you hibiki and Maria
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>>128906765
It's no problem friend, fortunately I stand above futile internet discussions.
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>>128906151
Undertale exists.
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>>128906846
No problem.
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>>128906618
they're quite good against bosses though

they only shine when you use them enough to build beast meter to supplement your damage

that is as intended
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>>128906878
>comparing toby fox's wankings to one of the best OSTs ever made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMf-kDeAYCY
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>>128906618
They get a free beast pellet effect, and since beast pellets are supposed to be a rare, valuable and limited resource, that's supposed to be a big deal.

Beast claws will out-dps virtually any other weapon in the game when it comes to wailing on a multi-part boss like ludwig unless they pop a beast pellet, too. The free resource is supposed to be its balancing factor and pvp with it, like with the game as a whole, is just an afterthought.
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>>128907016
Still need a hand with hotdog?
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Anyone wanna help me with Abhorrent beast in Ailing Loran layer 3? I've beaten him before but now hes just kicking my ass over and over. Pass is bbg and ringing at the fog wall
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>>128907149
Yeah, but, I need more eyes. Lemme go kill regular bloodstarved on NG+ real quick to get some insight.
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>>128906438
Hello reddit!
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>>128907091
Ok. I honestly listened to that song for the first time, (Since I've never played Nier cause I heard it was a bad game) and I really did not like that song.

So yeah, I guess I do consider Toby Fox's wankings better than.. that.
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Samson, I just managed to beat living failures. Thanks!
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>>128906438
>puts points into anything other than vit
>calls it a build
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>>128905941
>hurr
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is the best beastclaw build the same as a pure STR build? is there any point in making a pure str build, or should it always be str leaning?

>>128907368
>undertale fans
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Here's another pov of yesterday's fight club

https://youtu.be/EMtUwQFeN-k
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>>128907016
Got a great bt gem off him too. Boosted the fuck out of my attacks
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>>128907445
>Be a garbage summon
>"I beat the boss, thanks m8"

W-welcome, anon. Glad I could help. ;_;
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>>128907535
beast claws are str-leaning quality.
Pure str is easier to fit into a sub-100 meta. Over 100, there's no reason to not be str-quality if you want to use str weapons, since a good half of them are str-quality.
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>tfw can't find weed today
Guess I'll sleep early or something.
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Thanks Lady Maria. I gotta make a character for the pizza cutter sometime.
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>>128907535
Even The binding of fucking Isaac has a better soundtrack than that tross of a game.
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>>128907669
No problem. Good to see ya again after the FC last night.
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>>128907652
>today
This is why to me, pure 50str builds are kinda shit. 40/20 any day over that.
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>>128907664
MAN
MARIJUANA
ROFL
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For gems for the Burial Blade? 3 27.2s or 1 27.2 and 2 24.8/15s?
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>>128907760
>undertale and binding of isaac fans

it's okay to have shit taste. once you're out of middle school you can stop playing games for babies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNZmzLzvJo8
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>>128907981
I wish /tv/ wouldn't fucking leak everywhere
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>>128907562
>tfw not in this one either
I just want an in-game (You) ;_;
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>>128907760
>Nier is shit
pretty much the only X game is bad meme that's actually a meme
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Can someone please explain abyssals to me?
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>>128905396
>doll abs
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If anybody feels like going at Orphan with me, I'll be ringing at the fog gate amidst the snails with password "bbg". I am shit at it but filled with determination.

My PS+ expires tomorrow and I might not want to pay for another month, so it's now or never.
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>>128908532
>Muh shitty boring-ass game no one gave half a shit about is actually a hidden gem.

/v/ is that way.
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>>128907760
You mean the original, right? Rebirth has one of the worst OSTs I've heard in recent memory.
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The fight club is in a place thats really visually unappealing. Anyone else agree?
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>>128909189
It's inside a chalice dungeon, so yes.
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>>128909189
Yeah, but there aren't many better choices. That's the easiest place to get to.
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>>128908725
Ringing right now.
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Would anyone be willing to help me with Laurence?
I'm outside the fog door, password "fire"
BL 105
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>>128907760
The only people who like boi and undertale are 13 year od NuPC fats
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Alright, anyone interested in having a go at Defiled Hotdog? Ringing at fog, pass is bbg.
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What balance changes would you make to weapons?
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>>128909189
yes I've been trying to get bbg to move to less garbage cd for a few weeks but habits is habits and the current cd is convenient
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Oh, good hunter, look! I have wonderful news!
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Lets go again. Almost had him.
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Need help with ludwig, bl65

password bbg124
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Anyone played Vermintide? Any good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbREAF-wmEg
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>>128909589
Wanna bring my twink amd absolutely demolish him? I will need you to stand in a corner and do absolutely nothing tho
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>>128909861
[joy gesture]
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>>128910114
Yeah, sure, why not? I'm 120.
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>>128907562
!!COOL!!
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>>128910192
[clap clap clap]
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>>128909669
>Fix phantom range on saws/saif/Rakuyo
>Tone down/remove armor on Bloodletter/Rakuyo L2, respectively
>Give Steak R2 charge hyper armor
>Up the base damage on Beast Claws by some, Steak by a little

Could probably think up some other stuff, drawing a blank at the moment.

>>128909516
Sure, I'll be there.
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>>128909861
WONDERFUL HOW?
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>mfw waiting for decent hunters to help me against Amygdala on Chalice Dungeons

Since when fatty is so strong ?
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>>128910113
this looks pretty good. might have tough luck tho asking about it in /bbg/.
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>All the women of the fishing hamlet turned into qt slug girls
>all the men turned into hideous fish men
Kos is sexist
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>>128910324
>fix phantom range
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Post doll japanese voice
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>>128910113
I'm cautiously optimistic. The fact they set a not-RTS game in Warhammer Fantasy makes me happy, even if it is just a Left 4 D clone. The talk of possible Ork and Chaos DLC makes me even more optimistic.

I just hope the single player is decent enough because I don't want to pay for PS+
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>>128910212
That's a bit embarassing, have you ever managed to beat him alone?
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>>128909861
I BET THE VILEBLOODS ARE BEHIND THIS
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Playing Bloodborne made me realize the greatest weakness of the Souls series is that the game has to hand hold new players who don't know how to wisely invest their stats.
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>>128910819

Well, it doesn't have to. It could just let them drown.
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>>128910819
>have done 6 builds
>dozens and dozens of hours in each of them

and still every new build is a fucking gamble sometimes. you always discover something you wish you would have done instead, maybe invest points a bit differently.
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Close calls a couple times there. Since his second phase I only had 2 vials
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>>128910619
On my other character, yeah.

Not used to not being able to tank as many hits as I usually can, though.
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>>128910212
I guess that cunt Hibiki stealth co-oped again? I'm getting nothing in srrc
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>>128910920
>This game has fuckign artificial difficulty and the boss design is shit, too much health, and you jut can't do enough damage, wtf?! 0/10-IGN
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>>128911060
Hibiki did come, yes.
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>>128910975
As a basic rule, to make PVE easier you need to invest in vitality. New players don't always realize that, often levelling up other stats so they can use whatever spell or weapon they just picked up, and that's why so many people think Souls games are incredibly difficult. Build tinkering is complex, especially with the introduction of gems, but getting through the game usually isn't.
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>1500 word seminar paper due in a day
>can't stop playing bloodborne
send help
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>>128910819
This is why my first souls playthrough is always a quality vitgouge build.

I collect everything and by the end of the game, I find out what works.

I usually go 20STR/20DEX/20FAI/20INT and everything else pumped purely into Stam and VIT.

Then I make specialized builds from there.
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>>128911102
The IGN review for Crown of the Old Iron King complained that the Fume Knight was cheap and that he couldn't beat him.
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>>128911309
>posting that trip fag's char
Why?
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>>128908725
>>128909419
The two people who helped me: I hope you guys have the same name, because I'm naming my firstborn son after you both.
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>>128911309
you can do it, she believes in you
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>>128911617
Clint was me.
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>>128910324
I'll be waiting.
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Kek, thanks Lars.
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>>128910975
>you always discover something you wish you would have done instead, maybe invest points a bit differently.
this happened to me last week on my skill build I was working on. Put points into BLT for the reiter, and initially had no problems with it but eventually didn't like it for its short reach in pve(its godly in pvp but fuck trying to do CDs with this). Took the next day to start anew and catch up to where I was yesterday
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>>128911771
I've been ringing for a while, just haven't been getting anything.
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>32.6% adept
>attack down
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>>128911830
The entire defiled chalice is an absolute joke with the bowblade
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>>128910492
I was helping people a decent amount last night, I suppose I could hop on again for an hour or two.
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So what's the hardest boss in any Souls type game, including Bloodborne?
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>>128912214
HMPH
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>>128911309
>200 word essay due tomorrow
>can't stop shitposting
pls halb
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>>128912214
Gascoigne
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>>128911906
yeah, i don't think anyone could ever just use a few select weapons to get through pve without being carried. i'm really frustrated with my HMS build right now going through defiled as well. just can't do any damage yet because there are no nourishing gems i can get yet.
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>>128912214
>So what's the hardest boss in any Souls type game, including Bloodborne?
Until you realize they can be poisoned.
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I-Is my Arcane character decent looking?
I named him Hastur
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>>128910492
Pass?
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>>128912214
I've struggled with orphan more times on separate occasions with different builds more than I've ever struggled with any other boss in the series I can think of.
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>>128911910
I'm still here.
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>>128912554
That isn't a boss you god damned retard
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>>128912569
Only so long as you wear Henryk's set exclusively.
I like him, anon.
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>>128912554
Or until you realize that this isn't a boss (or learn how to roll)
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>>128912717
>That isn't a boss you god damned retard
Might as fucking well be.
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>Just helping out in the chalice
>Every summon is for amy
>Have to fight her ass for 5 minutes till shes gets to 20% hp
>The host always fucking suicide rushes her at that point and dies rather than being a corner humping cunt

Am I here just to suffer
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>>128909861
MAJESTIC
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>>128911768
Thanks, Clint!
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>that Maria fight

Holy shit that was fucking intense
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>>128912554
Honestly, after two weeks trying to pass those goddamn archers back in 2011 I dropped it and watched my brother's playthrough instead. And I was supposed to be the experienced one, having played DeS and all
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>>128912516
>I don't think anyone could use just a few weapons to beat the game without summons

I got the Steak Dinner first opportunity I could and ran through the whole damn game with it. Solo'd every boss, too. Wasn't that hard, minus a few that gave me some trouble.
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>>128909861
that's kind of hot
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>>128905396
>doll abs
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>>128913154
Okay. Here's the trick. Buy 8 poison arrows and 100 wooden arrows. Stand all the way at the back of the pad where the lightning gargoyles try to ambush you. Hit them twice. So long as you're all the way back, they can't hit you, but you can use the woodens to get a firing solution. Then peg them twice or so with poison arrows each. Then get a drink or take a piss or something.
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>>128912516
I got through the story and the trophy chalices solo with the Kirk no problem
I seriously don't see how people find BB hard
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Challenge dungeons aren't so bad. When are they supposed to turn into ass shredders? Depth 4?
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>>128913154
Wear light armor that doesn't make noise so the archer from behind doesn't start firing until you've actually run into his line of vision. Then just parry the other fucker into submission.
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>>128913097
just beat her as well, best fight after gehrman
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>>128913183
i should have said chalice dungeons. beating everything with the reiter or rifle spear would suck dick.

>>128913437
impatience and punishing deaths
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>>128913462
See you in an hour and a half when you're tearing your hair out anon.

You haven't even started yet. Depth 4 is only the beginning.
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>>128912214
The dragoslayer and the executioner.

Now THAT was a filter. You git gud or go home
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>>128913383

You could just turtle and kill the one blocking the way, it takes a few tries first time round but atleast you aren't sitting shooting wood for 20 minutes
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>>128913220
I wanna see that
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>>128913620
>You git gud or go home
Or summon a phantom or use magic
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>>128913383
>>128913474
That's very nice of you but I've played about a thousand hours of Dark Souls since then and it's a non-issue, just talking about first playthrough experiences
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>>128912214
Kalameet for me.
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>>128913620
I never saw what the deal with Ornstein and Smough was.

I beat them fatrolling in full elite knights with a zwei. Killed smough first while dodging ornstein. Didn't even use the pillars.

I was playing the game unlocked though since I always did that anyway. I feel like that fight is only hard for shield turtling babies with no poise or camera skills.
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Where can I farm non-circle bloodtinge gems outside of chalice dungeons? I remember a few dropping in the DLC, but not from what
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>>128913717
>using anything besides your trusted sword and a shield
>summoning
get a load of this guy
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Is it worth going to 25 Skill on a primarily Strength build?
Planning to use a bunch of weapons: hunter's axe, pizza cutter, beast claws, beast cutter, amygdalan arm, maybe others.
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>>128913582

>Impatience
It literally advertised as an aggressive game and if you are the slight bit aggressive 90% of the enemies will get stunned

>Punishing Deaths
Literally only a few like the first canon, the Descendants infinite combo and not know about Roms meteors but nothing is that hard to maneuver around
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>>128913858
>shield
>calling others casuals
holy fucking shit
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>>128913835
Well I did say 'git gud'
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>>128913462
d4 is like half way through story progress

after that the farming starts
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>>128913895
Not for those weapons you mentioned
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>>128913852
They drop from the big angsty baghead guys with the bloodbag rack they spam around. There are 2 of those guys. They drop these bloodtinge radials, weird.
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Why was the Moon Presence such a fucking busta?
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>>128912214

Fume Knight, his fucking second form was impossible with the weird as fuck hitboxes and delayed combos. Plus he basically one shotted me
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>>128914092
>+13.5 flat blood attack

>rating 15

WEW LAD.

Can they drop anything higher than 15? An offshape of those would be GR8 in a blunderbuss.
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>>128911910
Yeah I guess this isn't working out, I'll try again later.

Thanks anyway, anon.
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>>128914092
Hey, thanks. I had a feeling it was them. Mathematically speaking for a weapon like bloodletter, does it benefit more from this or 22.3% phys up droplets in tricked form?
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>>128914098
Because she knows she's a pussy ass bitch and you have no vials left
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>>128912214
Orphan is the hardest soulsborne boss by far imo.

It would be Flamelurker if you couldn't get him stuck on terrain and if you don't have the purple flame shield. But Orphan takes it because that is not the case.
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>>128914262
>Fume Knight
Who?
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>>128914098

He didn't get to steal your echos
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>>128914279
You'd have to see. I feel like the 22.3%'s would beat these.

I think these are just kind of a temporary solution for the bow/chikage/letter builds who want some extra tinge damage before they get to those brain ladies.
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>>128914323
Gehrman was also not as difficult as I expected.

I also used a Bold Hunter mark and did the entire DLC before killing the Moon Presence because I wanted a Blood Rock for the Burial Blade.
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>>128914447
Alright, I might be needlessly putting myself through hell then. I can't arry these flailing retard for shit. Should be easy.
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>>128914264
>farming for off-shape circles
What is this, bizzarro bloodborne?
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>>128914547
It's possible.

Image I fukken saved from some anon the other day.

This gem isn't that great anyway, but it shows what's possible.
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Can you summon across NG levels? Does setting a password affect this?
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>>128914397

Raime

>>128914523

Did anyone think Gerhman was hard, his openings are very long and he his pattern never really changes
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>>128914351
I don't know why but I also compare Orphan to Flamelurker, even though I had a lot more trouble with the latter. I like you guy, you have good taste in souls bosses
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should I be putting blunt gems on amy arm?
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>>128914523
He's a bit hard in the first fights when you don't know his pattern and he moves faster than we can see. He's pretty susceptible to fast attacks though.
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>>128914694
I know it's possible, I'm just pointing out how weird it'd be if you farmed for off-shape bloodtinge circles when most people spend tens of hours trying to do the exact opposite.
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>>128914735
Yes you can, I'm not sure about the password thing though as I only did it with a password.

>>128914751
Gehrman was very very easy for me, but I have weird trouble with Darksouls bosses. I killed the Darkbeast on my first try without help, but struggled for a while with the One Reborn.

I think the Orphan is definitely the hardest boss in the game though.
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Since when do the Witches of Hemwick have that Brainsucker freezing spell? They totally caught me off guard this playthrough.

>>128914751
I died a few times to him, mostly because I didn't know how to fight him and I was looking at the pretty flowers in the boss area.
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>>128914985
*Bloodborne.

I've been playing too much Dark Souls.
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>>128899274
Holy shit it's /dsg/ as fuck in here
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>>128914694
Now that is some fucking

K O R E A
O
R
E
A

I love that From seems to have even made icons and artwork for all the different gem possibilities. I remember getting a Fools Droplet from the brain ladies and it had it's own neat art with colouring etc.

I honestly wish someone would data dump this fucking game allready. I bet there are icons for Abyssal Droplets that are impossible to get.
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>>128915164
why
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>>128915164
Except we dislike bad games
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>>128915240
I've never encountered so much Souls dick swinging in these threads before.
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>>128915231
>abyssal droplet
I would legit masturbate to this, no joke
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>parasite fall attack is a headbutt
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>rune tool is a literal branding iron
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>>128915516
Untransformed jump is a leaping headbut. Honestly, if I was cool with being an ayylmao, it;s the most comedit playstyle.
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>>128908182
I know right, it really upsets my wife's son desu
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>>128915590
>you find it on a dead hunter tied to a chair just past two witches with eyeball cloaks,
>>
OKAY FAGGOTS NO MORE MEMES

Kos or Kosm?
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>>128915942
Kos for fucks sake.
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Is regular bloodletter the best one or did I fuck myself in the ass by getting it to +8?
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>>128915942
Whichever is most appropriate based on syllable count
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Every time i die while farming lanterns I watch that little cutie snailwoman run past and eat my echoes. I mean, I wish she wouldn't.
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>>128915942
It's Kos but some say Kosm
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>>128916059
Doesn't even matter family, enjoy your trip to korea
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>>128916059
lost is best for off-shape farming, lost is best for 27s
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>>128914694
how hard is it to go through main game + chalices with a vitgouged wheel?
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>>128916059
you're fine, other version don't have a circle slot like with the bowblade/chikage
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Bloodletter does blood attack, right? Is blood attack further sectioned into thrust and blunt blood?
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Not getting any summons in central pthemeru at 36. There's no way I'm under leveled is there?
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>>128912214
Orphan
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>not roleplaying as a homeless beggar
I bet you guys have detailed backstories too.
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>>128916718
no, there's 4 types of physical damage
regular phys
thrust
blunt
and blood
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>>128916718
nope, it's just blud
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How's the arcane grind? Should I start learning korean?
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>make a build
>go through half of the game
>go through all of the chalice shit
>finish the rest of the game and all of the DLC
>farm for hours and hours
>pvp a little bit
>decide to make a new build
>autism won't let me settle for anything less than perfect gems
>do all the same shit over again
>repeat 5 more times
>spent at least twice as much time farming over actually pvping


this is a flaw, okay?

things should not be this way

this farming is really starting to ware me down and I'm getting burnt out
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>>128916925
Ok that made me curious.

To those that think up backstories to their hunters. please share.

Id post mine, but i dont have a picture of my hunter at the ready.
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>>128916925

I'm a trophy hunter who praises kosm
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>>128916969
>>128916970
Bummer.
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>>128917015
only hard thing is trying 2 get scaling from elder, but if you coop with someone else and both of you are good it's quite easy to farm.
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>>128917162
its better this way
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Is there a way to tell which direction the meteors will come from in the Living Failures fight?
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>>128917280
>Not wanting abysal blunts for tricked bloodletter
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>>128916925
Original character do not steal
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>>128916193
>>128916474
>>128916630
Just bought the lost one too just in case
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>>128916775
>Summoning in central pthumeru
You are the problem.

>>128917338
They always fall from the same direction. You can use the big lumenflower in the middle as cover, by the way.
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>>128917119
Mine is an old beggar who has really nice weapons ( ie Evelyn and Chikage.) but dresses in raggedy clothes. and he had an invitation to Cainhurst in his shoe that he forgot about so when he found it again he decided to join the vilebloods for some sweet queen pussy


How autistic is that? I literally came up with it right now for shits and giggles.
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So in order to get the top tier caryll runes, I have to beat the fixed chalice dungeons to unlock the root chalices, then go to a root dungeon and unlock them there?
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>>128917631
If you don't have online play you just hope the root you spawn has it otherwise its wasted.
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>>128917447
what's wrong with trying to rush through this shit?
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I just can't seem to get the hang of parrying Orphan with the Augur

Half the time he just tanks through it anyway, and when I do stagger him he's too far away to actually visceral him in time
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>>128912214
Somehow it was Logarius, thinking about it now makes me a bit ashamed, as I now destroy the fucker every run on the first try, but on my first character I easily did more than 40 tries.

The Undead Giant in the chalices was annoying as fuck too, especially the mace variant.
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>have to wade through all of pthumeru to get lost chaikage
Dropped desu
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>>128917707
How do I change the depth? I want to go to the depth 5 Pthumeru Root dungeon, but the Pthumeru Root Chalice I have says it's depth 1.
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>>128916621
Easy. You have less damage than most builds, but you still have 20 STR, better than a BL4 can manage, and you can beat NG+7 DLC at that if you're mad enough. Besides, you have LOADS of fucking health. You almost can't die.

That, and you can find various flat gems along the way to give decent damage boost. The DLC has an arcane gem with flat arcane of a decent amount to stick in a weapon before you even start the dungeons.
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>>128918015
You beet depth 5 Ihyll story chalice first and you get the depth 5 root there
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>>128918135
Oh jesus. Well I guess I won't be doing that for a while. Thanks for the answer though.
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>>128918215
Don't worry, it's worse than you think it is
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>>128917838
It's depth 2, dude. At level 36 you should be able to stomp all over that.

At the very least you aren't the kind of joker that rings their big bell in the pre-dungeon side area at level fucking 80+ in depth one and two chalices. Maybe I just got triggered.
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>>128917064
>i'm in literally the same boat

i think we gotta give it a rest maybe for a while. i don't even have one of these characters with all satisfying gems (mainly because of the fact that i use so many weapons on each)
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How good is the boom hammer now guys? Haven't played with the new patch.
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>>128918034
Where's this gem famygdala?
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>>128918626
Best weapon I've ever played with. Fucking flattens everything.
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Anyone up for defiled Amy? Pass is bbg.
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Can someone help me with this research hall.

sl 65

pass bbg124
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Anyone want to help me kill defiled amy? Pass is bbg and I'm ringing near the fog wall
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>>128918792
I'll help I guess.
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>>128917119
brace for autism
Cruel fate start was used as the basis, but basically one of the children abducted by the choir, preferably from some dead cainhurst nobles to explain them summons, to be turned into an ayy but escapes before it habbened and then came back yhaharhar searching for a cure for a condition that was from ayy treatments
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>>128918875
Let's help the other guy first.
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>>128918673
In the DLC, it's like 20% arc + 33 flat arc or something. Pretty decent for a build with low damage scaling, alot of chalice enemies are weak to arcane too, the undead mob guys.
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>>128918792
On my way.
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>>128918975
Wait, it's not the 47+/4,1% gem by the snail girls?
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>Need chunks
>Deepest I've made is Central Pthumerian
Might be faster to just jump into NG+
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>>128918817
Yeah lemme fix my runes and I'll help
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>>128918728
did anything else get nerfed/buffed?
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>>128918817
Comin.
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>>128918728
I've got 2 28.7%s and a 27.2% in mine and I don't feel like it does that great of damage compared to other weapons with the same sort of gems
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>>128919014
There's two of us ringing with the same password, Help Clint first, then me.
>>
Lady Maria, lets help the other anon first. Then we can do mine
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>>128919176
Post-One Reborn you can buy chunks for 20 insight.
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>>128919206
all str weapons got buffed because abyssals were not "fixed" or patched out
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>>128918935
Which guy, aanon? There was another guy who wanted help but he didn't post password.
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>>128919178
>>128919217

Thanks, i died and lost 500k. I hate hose bitches.
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>>128919321
I am the other anon
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>>128919229
>Damage
Not so important when you can perpetually keep a mob on their ass until ded. Not talking pvp here
>>128919340
I need a fuck tonne of chunks though. I mean, not really, I have my mains +10'd, but I wanna get whip letter and chikage up to +9 too.
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>>128919340
Well yeah but that late in the game you're not really going to have a steady stream of insight unless you just do chalice dungeons over and over and over

>>128919442
ringing at the lamp
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>>128914262
Beat him on SL 70 on my first playthrough. Took me 30 something tries tho.
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>>128918905
I'll play.

Cruel fate, grew up on the streets in a gang of child thieves. One day robbed a Yharnamite and got the unopened summons and a vial of blood which the others dared her to drink.
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>>128919554
>Not talking pvp here

neither was I

why would I use boom hammer for mob control when beast cutter does a better job and has a better moveset with more range and utility?

boom hammer has the smallest moveset in the game except for maybe tonitrus
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>no way to repair your weapon except for the workbench
Well done Fromsoft
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>>128919442
You ringing? I'm not getting connected to anyone
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>>128919609

here
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Is that guy with the bbg pass still at defiled Amy? I haven't gotten anyone here.
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>>128919775
>why would I use boom hammer for mob control when beast cutter does a better job and has a better moveset with more range and utility?
Because it doesn't. Tricked hammer can literally explode a cluster of mobs without having to stand around like a dickweed for the whip recoil to come back at you. Cutter's only saving grace is its degree, but you're doing a shit job if you're getting flanked anyway. Cutter just lacks the effectiveness of the boom. Two wings to flatten something, boom only takes a leap or a charge.
>>
Why is password SRRC so slow? I don't get it. Even with random SRRC I get connected in less than a minute.
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FUCK! hope you get em Lady Maria. Amygdala broke my sound system halfway through so I gotta reboot my shit real qucik
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>>128920314
Almost had him. Ah well, I'll start ringing again, see if I get someone else. I'd be happy to help you when you get back up.
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/bbg/ help
I've only got 5 more levels until lvl98
What's more important, 50 Vit or 50 Str?
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>>128918975
>20%/33 flat
Where in the dlc is this sperm wyrm?
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>>128919117
Might be that one, I could be misremembering. It's a triangle with a decent amount of percentage and flat, is all I remember. I stuck it on an arcane whirlygig through the chalice trudge.

Trusty bolt saif, fire saw spear and arcane whirly is how I did it. The L2 on the whirly actually does very well with flat damage.
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>>128920409
I'm back up. Only had to turn off an on my tv to fix it. Ringing for you again once I get back from the dream with more BMA
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>>128920127
except regular R1s stunlock standard mobs in place indefinitely

there is no reason to flatten them
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>>128920418
Strength, easy. Those last five points in vit are pretty negligible, honestly.
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>>128919910
They wanted to make the game as tedious as possible to draw out playtime. Literally most of the games decisions were made in mind to warp back to the dream.

We could've had restocking vials/bullets, sitting at lamps and levelling up and repairing from them, but that would be too "souls like" for a souls like game, apparently.
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Fuck the orphan, the hit box on his swinging thing is so inconsistent. Sometimes its just the endpiece, sometimes its like half the string.
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>>128920587
>indefinitely
No, you run out of stamina eventually. However you can trick and leap some one onto their ass indeinitely, and it does a whole lot more damage too.
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at lamp for resummon bbg124
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I'm so sorry Amygdala crew. Fuck me that was bad.
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>>128920635
the hunter bone not restoring vials really irks me
same with doing a successful invasion/coop session only to have it deduct all of the vials/bullets you used within the beckoner's world

at the very least, if the session was successful, it should restore your vials/bullets to what they were before invading, it doesn't even have to restock them

instead you have to awkwardly find a way to kill yourself

that, and the fact that you can't even set your lantern spawn after initially lighting it is really fucking gay
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>>128920832
heh, i ran to the boss door but alright, im back at the lamp now. Sorry about that, i was getting crowded out during my roll and fucked it up
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why did Alfred kill himself?
did he really need to pulverize my queen too?
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>>128920832
Someone else already got in.
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>>128921085
Trust me, he's not the only one pulverizing your queen if you catch my drift.
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>>128920958
I actually laughed. I was worried that laser would get you as you came through
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>>128921085
his mission was over

you can revive her

>>128921154
;_; alright I'll meet you after living failures for maria
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>>128921174
b-back off
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>not making all bloodtinge characters with red hair
>not making all arcane characters with black/blonde/white hair and light eyes
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>>128921085
Alfred was a mad men. He was most likely went crazy after Logarius betrayed the executioners.

"Now Master Logarius martydoom is canonized"
He did what he went about telling everyone Logarius did. Logarius was a true marty now. His mission was over.
>>
Thanks guys
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Damn, got me by walking backwards. Cheeky shit, Amy.
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>>128899274
Amy is a nigger
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>>128921085
>being a cuckold
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>>128921456
Master Logarius never betrayed us.
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>>128921085
To become a martyr.
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>>128921593
Ringing for Maria?
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>>128921708
Sure thing, Alfred.
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Is the Accursed Brew viable?
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Okay so ive got a build right here and its about lighting shit on fire ive got these stats atm

>im sorry about the 12 in skill but i had to try the moonlight sword

Apart from that, where should i go from here?
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>>128921881
It does solid aoe damage, but I found ayymode l2 to be more effective once I got used to it.
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FUCK HE WAS SO CLOSE
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>>128921881
Kinda.

On my 70ARC build, I pretty much just use the HMS beams though. For 1 bullet cost a beam, they outdo every single spell tool with the right arcane gemming. I use blacksky if I want something more long range.

Brew is kind of....mob control I guess. If you've got a bunch of shit running at you all together you can AOE them with it.
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>>128921828

I suppose so, i was going to back track just incase i missed anything.
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>fight le meme man
>he does nothing but spam acb
Fun game you guys
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Last insight, Amy crew.
If we fail, we're going to you, Clint.
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>>128922282
I'm standing infront of maria's door ringing with your pass
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>>128921958
Put the rest in arc and vit. 50 arc and howerver much vit you can squeeze in there, depending on when you plan to stop leveling.
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>>128921881

If you played DS1 you'll get an immediate feel for how to use it, because it's basically the same usability as DS1's fireballs. It does cast faster than the DS1 counterpart, but the best way to hit with it still is to freeaim and throw it where your opponent is heading.
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>>128922331
Okay. I only have 15 insight but that should be enough tries.
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>>128922263
>That HP
Please tell me you just went low vit and that there aren't more fucking Defiled dungeons.
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Gregor, where you at?
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>>128922476

well i guess ill go to 98 like everyone else
It annoys me that theres no fire tools n shit
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hold me bbg, initiating my first depth 5
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>>128922263
>that damage

Fucking how. Post everything.
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What the fuck.
I was co-oping against Maria and the host just hid in the corner the entire fight.
He healed at the end, so he wasn't dry on blood vials.
What the fuck.
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I really hope da3 has a sitting emote.

also this>>128922837
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>>128918421
I like your build names
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>>128922263
Love how that dudes falls on his ass
>What? No more Hmph?
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>Ailing Loran bonus room
>open door
>get gangraped by 7 red spiders

First time I legitimately felt terrified in this game.
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>>128922263
post build/give advice on how you to beat defiled with that character.
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FUCK.

Alright, time to go to you, Clint.
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Fuck. Let me put my good gems on my bow blade and I'll ring for you Maria. If anyone wants to help with defiled Amy the pass is bbg and we ring near the fog wall
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>>128922971
thank you!!
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>>128922668
That's a cursed and defiled dungeon anon.

Did you think you were done with cursed dungeons?
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>>128923361
I've been trying there for a while with the pass and got no one.I guess I can try again.
>>
Is there no way to get lost chaikage early?
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>>128922837
70 ARC, 2 arcane scaling abyssals, one 24% arcane up ebrietas abyssal.
>>
What kind of stats should I go for on a broccoli/moonlight sword/maybe WHEEL build?
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>>128923704
20 STR/50 ARC probably.
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Wow. I'm sorry, Clint.
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Fuck it, I just quit the game instead of dying Maria. Ringing again
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>>128922668
Oh man you're in for a big surprise
>>
Maybe I should just kill myself. Somehow I got even worse at fighting Amy.
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>>128923620
Used to be when you could just password match to get into any dungeon once you had the SRRC.

Fuck I miss that. Being able to just get an uncanny wheel right when you want it and not waste mats on the regular one was bliss.
>>
heavy abyssal question:

+15 flat
or
open attack 6%?
>>
Just destroyed Ebrietas with Blacksky Eye spam. I almost felt bad about it.
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>>128923620
If by early you mean after killing defiled Amy and yharnam yes. Otherwise, no, just +9 a normal chikage till then, you should have enough chunks for both and a gun too.
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>>128924493
open foes desu.

You won't see the damage most of the time, but that one time you trade and do a cool extra 50+ damage, you'll be thankful for it.
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Anyone wanna help with Loran Darkbeast?

BL 120 PW is bbgbbw
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Ringing again Maria. a jump caught me off guard. Beast Skinner, you are a beast
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>>128924480
>>128924614
Fuck
>tfw Christmas babby
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>>128924756
If we get him this time, I'm gonna summon you two in to help me.
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>>128924756
Thanks bruh.
Ringing in via SRRC.
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>>128924857
I'd be glad to help.
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>>128917064
>make a build
>spend 10 hours in game and chalices
>I suck at it.
>go back to my old STR build

This is me in all the souls games.
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>>128924715
I guess it would also depend on the weapon too, huh?

Beast claws would probably be best with +15 because they don't have AR that high and they're constant damage over time, and I don't think I'd ever counter hit with them anyway aside from an occasional initial swing.
>>
>Frankenstein collected body parts and cadavers from graveyards to assemble Adam
>Mensis collected body parts and cadavers from Hemwick to assemble One Reborn
>Frankenstein used a lightening storm to awaken his child
>Mensis used the Paleblood Sky to birth their god

You're now aware that One Reborn is an eldritch Frankenstein's monster.
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Anyone got that picture of Micolash without his cage on? Looks like a portrait.
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>>128925103
If it was built by humans it should be there already like the doll. It seems like that is just its manifestation. Maybe that's even just you the way you see it.
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what's best BL for a yurie cosplay to invade burgerworth with?
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>>128925218
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Why is itsy-bitsy Maria so short? She's like two heads smaller than the doll!

It's so cute!
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God fucking dammit. Ringing again.
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>>128925443

Thanks senpai.
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>>128925472
Isn't this fun? AREN'T YOU HAVING FUN WITH THE CHALICE DUNGEONS?
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>>128925589
I'm having so much fun my nose just started bleeding.
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>>128925428
Enjoy getting gangbanged.
>>
>manage to figure out how to beat FRC Bloodletting Beast after 30 tries
>beat FRC headless Bloodletting Beast after 5 tries

Who thought that a ranged needle attack that leaves it open for so many seconds makes it harder?
>>
The Doll is so tall because Gehrman is so tall too! IT ALL MAKES SENSE
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>>128924493
Depends on the weapon, but more often than not open-foe beats out flat.
If you have 700 AR, that 15 flat is about 2% of your damage on all of your attacks. If at least one of three attacks you land is a counter-hit, open-foe outdamages 15 flat.
This is assuming those attacks are using a 1.0 multiplier. If it's greater, lean toward open-foe.
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Fuck it, I'm out for a little while, Clint. Gotta do some shit. Message me later on if you're still at it.
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>>128925791
It does.

>>128925463
Maria is cute cause she's short
Doll is cute cause she's tall
how does that work?
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Question, best gems for the Church Pick?

I'm having tons of fun slowly poking people to death and punishing their mistake to backstep after taking 285 damage
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>>128925384
>implying the One's dead components weren't assembled in the unseen waking world (remember Yharnam Sunrise) to be reborn in the nightmare
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>>128925963
Cute girls are cute!
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Level 101 ringing just outside of boss door for Orphan of Kos

somebody wanna halp? not getting anyone at all so no need to fool with passwords
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>>128926115
ok no, this one isn't
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>>128926006
str build, heavy abyssal + thrusting 32%
skill build, three 32% thrusting, but that eliminates just a few attacks. just do 27.2s if you like those attacks.
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>>128926324

just NG, btw, not NG+
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RIP me. Ringing again Hopefullt we get him before I run out of insight
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>>128926324
on my way.
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>>128926634

thanks, friend
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>>128925963
Before level ups I bet the doll could easily use her height advantage to overpower her dear hunter and force him to the ground if she so chose.
Imagine if she denied the hunter strength level ups in preparation for such an act!
Cute!
>>
Is it me or does everything in Lower Pthumeru hit like a truck? Even Watcher bullets stopped doing damage comparable to mashmallows.
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>>128926835
was that you?
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>>128926847
Doll is the very definition of a sub
and not the bullshit needy kind
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>>128927000
Wait till you get to the the defiled chalice mr.trips.
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>>128927068

no, my ingame name is Leon. still waiting
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>>128927297
helped someone else then.
use bbg
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Where is a good place to co-op for the highest amount of blood echos on ng?
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>>128927739
its kinda pointless to do it in co-op because the best soul farming strats require you to reawaken very frequently. But if you really want to, it's Mergo's loft
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>>128927186
She's a power bottom at worst.
The innocent seeming ones always have kinks. I'm absolutely positive she'd be in control.
She's based on Maria, and Maria's definitely the pants in most relationships.
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>>128927971
But then, what would it be if it was Maria x Doll?
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>>128927940

Yeah i kind of figured it was mergos loft.... bleh.
>>
So, tricked Bloodletter does physical damage aswell? If so, is it blunt or what?
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>>128927667

ok ringing again
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>>128928097
Doll knows all of her weakpoints and has none. Also taller. Maria would be putty in her hands.
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FUCK YES!!!! I FUCKING KILLED HIM! FUCK YOU DEFILED AMYGDALA. FUCKKKKK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

THANK YOU GREGOR. YOU AND QUEEN KILLER MADE THIS POSSIBLE.
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>>128927971
>power bottom
>using gay terms for women/females
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>>128928137
All blunt.

I'm probably one of the few people who actually uses regular bloodletter on a STR build with blunt gems.

The R2 stab in untricked form does an insane amount of damage.
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>>128928276
You know what I mean.
You get in that and you're leglocked until she's done with you.
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>>128927971
She's power nothing. She's confident and safe in her submissive role.
She's the opposite of Maria, who's forceful but insecure and anguished.
>>128928215
this is bullshit
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>>128928407
>leglocked until she's done with you.
wew
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>>128928220
Damn, I just made my way through all of defiled to help you.
No Amy hides for me today.
Good job though.
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>>128927667

if you're blueperson, thanks a lot for the help!
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>>128928670
i'm not but i guess you're good then?
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>>128928820

yeah we got him. i used bbg and summoned him twice so i just assumed it was you. thanks for the effort though
>>
headless bloodletting with half health is the gayest chalice grind in the game

I would rather fight amy OVER AND OVER

this is fucking awful
>>
White Church Garb

Attire of special Church doctors.

These doctors are superiors to the black preventative hunters, and specialists in experimentally backed blood ministration and the scourge of the beast.

They believe that medicine is not a means of treatment but rather a method for research, and that some knowledge can only be obtained by exposing oneself to sickness.

>Fauxsefka wears white church stuff

She was just a middling Church doctor that decide to abuse the opportunity of the night of the hunt to get some bonus research and experiments done.
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>Beat Orphan of Kos on my second try

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Orphan of Kos Difficulty Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Roll Into The Lightning Like Nigga Under His Weapon Haha
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Can anyone help me kill Simon? I'm ringing at the first lamp in the dlc, pass is bbg. I really want simons bow blade early on.
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>not roleplaying as a homeless beggar in a nightmarish abyss.
Get your shit together guys.
>>
Where the hell's the elevator for getting down to the Brain of Mensis?
>>
>>128929887
can't damage him
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>>128929887
shit, sorry mensis bro, guess cooperatives can't kill him. Sonafabitch
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>>128930474
were you close to killing him? i could try healing you
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>>128903923
yeah it's from one of the undead giants that drop thrust and blunt gems.
>>
Anyone wanna go through the second half of the fishing hamlet/potentially kill orphan with me?

The faggot with the bloodletter is bouncing all of my attacks.

>>128930351
From the elevator station, go backwards, back inside the building, and you'll see it hanging over the empty space, it's just a cage.
>>
>>128931040
sure , pass?
>>
>>128931104
bbg, I'll ring at the lighthouse hut
>>
Anyone wanna help me with The One Reborn? The area's trash and I just want to get it done
password: jakes1
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>>128931201
ringing now.
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>>128900342
Also, sure this has been asked before, but why does the Orphan look more humanlike compared to the other Great Ones/Kin we see?
>>
>>128931290

Sure give me a moment
>>
>>128931449
Huh, seems like it doesn't want to work for some reason. I can't use my lamp, tried silencing then reringing, but I'm not getting the message that usually says "searching for the chime of a small resonant bell"
>>
>>128931616
Some dude at the hamlet probably gave Kos the dick. Thats my theory anyways.
>>
>>128931864
Try quitting out.
Also make sure you don't have a covenant rune on.
>>
>>128931973
Are you getting the bell ripples underneath you? I wasn't getting them inside, went to the backyard and they showed up. I'll try reloading
>>
Ringing at fog gate jakes1
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>>128930645
Nah, I barely do any damage to him at all. Visceral attacks do nothing
>>
>>128932098
re-rang, standing outside of the back (destroyed wall) exit to the lighthouse lamp, on the patch of lighter ground.
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>>128932098
Yeah, I'm getting ripples in the house.
>>
>>128932137
I'm by the lamp
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>>128931616
Either someone human had sex with Kos or Kos specifically made her child in the image of a Hunter for whatever reason.
>>
>>128932364
Now I am too. Strange. you put in "bbg" all lowercase, right?
>>
>>128932379

omw
>>
>>128932459
yes
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>>128932459
Yup.
>>
>>128932459
Do you have matching regions set to worldwide?
>>
Gotta change ruin jakes1
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>>128932532
>>128932592
Maybe the lighthouse is bugged, because if we're all in the same place it should be working. Try moving towards the rooftops?

>>128932689
Yep
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these squishy high endurance builds I find are hilarious
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>>128932702

whelp fuck this game
>>
>>128932532
>>128932592
Think I just saw your ghost. Harrowed armor?
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Yo someone wanna help me kill Laurence?

BL 102 ringing right outside the cathedral (the one with the lamp, not the one with Laurence). I wanting to run past the big guy with the axe right before Laurence rather than kill him every time and then summoning. Password is bbg, I'm set to worldwide if that matters.
>>
>>128933036
madman set and cauliflower
>>
>>128932763
Just lost connection.
Odd.
>>
>>128933140
>>128933159
the server is probably having some kind of issue. I'll trying dinging one more time, hopefully it works. Let's try a different password just in case, bbg1
>>
>>128933094
Coming senpai.
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>>128933247
normally the box that says "searching for the chime of _____" pops up every 20-30 seconds, but i haven't seen it since I rang. Still getting ripples though.
>>
>>128933094
Set a password and I'll be there.
>>
>>128933425
maybe you can't summon here until after braydor gets killed or something. i dunno
>>
>>128933094
>>128933601
Wait fuck I'm blind, sorry.
>>
I've hit a wall in my quest for the beast claw. Lower Pthumeru is kicking my ass and I can't find any summons to carry me to victory. Would some kind anon be willing to help and not blank out the instant I go looking for tier 4 ritual blood? If so I'll be waiting at the layer 2 lamp with "bbg2442" as my password.
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blueperson you are my hero. twice today you've carried me.

<3
>>
>>128934068
The general idea for rit blood 4 is to grind it from the layer 3 sackman, I thought. Either way, I'll be right there, sure.
>>
>other player's bullets hit me without fail
>my bullets literally hit 1/5

TOP QUALITY P2P NETCODE
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>>128934068
>>128934361
SHIT SOMEONE GET A QUARTER I NEED A SECOND ROUND
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Post if you beat the giant and want help further on, chalice beastman.
>>
>>128934361
Thank you both, now I can grind sackmen and hopefully realize the dream of using an arguably shitty weapon as part of a gimmick build
>>
>>128935194
I'll keep ringing as long as you're willing to keep coming
>>
I FUCKING LOVE MADARAS WHISTLE
>>
Anyone wanna fight Orphan with me? I'm at the fog gate, password will be bbg, let me know
>>
>>128935831
on my way
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>>128935831
Yea.
>>
what the fuck?

I just got like a super charged heavy damp or something?

it has +50.75 to str scaling

is that normally possible? is it possible to get an abyssal with beyond +65?
>>
how do I get to the blood rock in the breeding pools? I know it's on the platform on the other side of the cave, but i can't figure out how to get there.
>>
>>128935894
>>128935921
Bell rung. Lemme know if you ring, I've been having some issues getting connected to people for the past hour or so.
>>
>>128936053
Go down the cave to where the Brain dolls are, take a right, to where the shell girl scurried off to and follow her
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>>128936186
ringing now
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>>128936252
Seems like it's still having issues. Gimme a sec, lemme try something.
>>
>>128936380
Alright, I just re-rung. Lets see if it works this time
>>
>>128935952
65 is the max for abyssals, but normal heavies exist up to 50-something. Most 50-something heavies will still be better than 27% temperings if they have a good secondary effect.
>>
>>128900103
>Moon Presence
>He
Not to even mention great ones are really past the human idea of gender, but MP is a she.
>>
>>128936602
same password?
>>
>>128936791
yeah, "bbg". This is weird, I haven't been able to summon anyone in the fishing hamlet since last night...
>>
>>128936746
>she
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>>128936837
Okay, I think I got it working. Gonna try again with the password.

To restate: Fighting orphan of kos, password bbg
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>>128937619
Well, at least its working now. Sorry for my scrubbiness blueperson, he chased me down while i was trying to heal
>>
Anyone wanna help for defiled Amy? Pass is bbg.
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>play through twice and still don't understand most of what happened
They really need to stop including so much lore shit in art books and the likes, I get triggered when people say stuff that was not in the game at all
>>
>come back to /bbg/
>"praise the dark" isn't a meme yet
amateurs 2bh
>>
>>128938003
probably because you're retarded
>>
>>128917119
wagon enthusiast that accidentally rolled into Yharnam
>>
>>128937965
Oh my christ his tracking is insane
>>
>>128938003
>He doesn't play all the souls games by reading the descriptions of everything he finds

>He doesn't find shit like Ash Lake/Cainhurst etc of his own volition without guides

I feel bad for you
>>
>>128938093
Still salty about no goty?

>>128938227
I did read all the item descriptions fucko
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>>128938258
http://gematsu.com/2016/01/gematsu-community-overall-game-year-2015-winner ehh good enough for me
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>>128938258
>read all the items and still doesn't understand the story.
Retard confirmed.
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>>128938198
Still fighting?
I'm coming.
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>>128938258
then you might just be a meme
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Just beat the game finally.

>G man fight

he wasn't hard, but beating him felt really good, like I had finally mastered the game

>MP fight

jesus what a disappointment. literally the only boss I ever beat on my first try, and that was after fighting G man so I'd already used a lot of my blood vials.

Why is it that Fromsoft/Souls games are known for their bosses but they never have the balls to make the last fights hard? I guess Watcher/Defender were hard due to their bullshit revival stuff, but even without parrying Gwyn was a mid tier boss in terms of difficulty and DeS gave us the cold shower that was that slug thing. I mean I know False Allant was supposed to be the de facto final boss, but you don't know that on your first play through, especially since that whole coast thing with the Great One looking so unique and intimidating.
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anyone want to help me with this well in fishing Hamlet?
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>>128938002
Pls respond
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>>128938434
>>128938434
Yeah. I'm fucking embarrassed, he keeps comboing the shit out of me.
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Anyone wanna help with defiled hotdog? Pass is bbg
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>>128938516
But anon, the final boss is FRC Amy 100 times for gems :^)
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>>128938779
Comin lad.
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>>128931616
If you look closely, Kos is humanoid as well. Or at least she has a face insider her flaps.

>>128938673
Thank you blue and discord
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>>128938516
These games just aren't hard for anyone who has played all of them.

By the time you get to the end of the game anything they throw at you will be easy. Either that or they could make a boss that is too hard through bullshit moves.

I've pretty much accepted already that dark souls 3 won't be difficult. Bloodborne wasn't despite being a lot faster.
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>>128939029
Here, I took a picture. Nose/mouth clearly visible

Kos is cute! C U T E!
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>>128938779
Ringing at the lantern or fog?
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>>128939246
Looks like Jenova
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>>128939246
>Kos will never lovingly caress you with her tentacles
why live

>>128939364
A little, yeah. But its mostly just the color.
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Hey /bbg/, mind clearing something up for me? Bloodborne is published by Sony so it's unlikely to ever be ported right? Sorry to bug you guys with this since it's probably asked all the time but if anybody would know, it'd be you.
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>>128938975
Love you anon
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Came here to ask if I can still fight Laurence after beating Orphan and ending the nightmare. Also, where is an npc who can distract Laurence for me? He's annoying as fuck.
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>>128939487
the color and the dick-sucking lips
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>>128938258
A multiplat that appeals to a wide audience of people by being extremely generic got a GOTY award over a niche exclusive.

Color me suprised.
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>>128939580
Not only did they produce it, Sony came to Miyazaki and asked him to make a game for them. It will never be ported.
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>>128939058

I'm not sure that's entirely true, Kos was tough but fair. Then again maybe G man and MP were only so easy because doing Old Hunters made me overleveled when they were originally made assuming you fought them right after mergo's wet nurse
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>>128938052
I've been waiting all day to drop it
play how u want was a great meme
praise the dark just needs its chance
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>>128939772
God damnit. I played some Bloodborne on a friend's PS4 and it's the most fun I've had in a Souls game yet. I may have to bite the bullet and get my own now too.
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>>128939812
I mean don't get me wrong they can still make tough fights. Logarius absolutely demolished me despite playing 1000+ hours in every other souls game.

It's just I don't really expect there to be a roadblock boss like there was in my first time. I absolutely agree though, they really should make a HARD final boss for the next game. I feel like they should just make a boss with an asston of moves, like 30 or more. Then when you go into the boss fight it randomizes the moveset of the boss giving it a couple out of the pool. That way everytime you fight it it's different.
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>>128939849
I had a feeling "my gf says gg" would also reach great meme status, but alas.
This general just needs to wake up.
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>>128939878

just do it m8. when they finally dropped to 300 during cyber monday i jumped on it basically on a whim. no regrets.
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>>128939878
Why wouldn't you? You can get it for like $300. That's like 4 shifts at taco bell. You're not a neet, are you?
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>>128939996
tbqh the better defense was the one guy whose ego was so gigantic he probably actually meant that he was just testing his builds strengths and weaknesses
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Oi lads, anyone wanna help me with Lower Pthumeru Chalice's Rom?
The magic shit is jacking me
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If I kill Braydor in his cell before I've killed him 4 times for his armor, can I still get his armor or do I lose it forever?
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>>128940318
His armor will appear on the ground where he normally would have invaded.
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>>128940318
His armor pieces will just be laying on the ground as drops in the spots he'd normally invade in, so you can still get his armor if you kill him in his cell
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>ritual blood 4 grind
oh god this is awful
the sack men arent dropping dick
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>>128940416
>>128940428
Good to know. It won't despawn if I don't pick it up immediately right?
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Anyone wanna hang l.p. with Martyr logarious? I just wanna beat him early. Level 36, password bbg
I'd love you forever if you helped, preferably 2 people since I'm so low.
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>>128940296
password?
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>>128939660
/v/, pls. Laurence is torture.
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>>128940247
I knew that meme, I was just saving it to see if you could out-meme me.
By the way can I see a list of your memes? Thanks.
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>>128940608
Yeah, I'll come. No problem waiting for a second either.
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>>128940636
>/v/
Yes, all you need is Laurence's skull to fight him. You can summon Valtr for Laurence.
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>>128940508
It stays there till you pick it up.
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>>128940697
Ok, thanks man. Anyone else? It'd be rad if we got a second dude
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>>128940615

bbg my friend
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>>128940823
I'm ringing

Super high level but I've got some shitty +5 weapons.
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>>128940862
are you by the lantern or fog?
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>>128940927
Might not work, I'm level 36
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>>128940668
sorry but these memes are too fire to drop all at once
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still can't beat the fucking orphan of kos
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>>128938636

pls respond i hate fighting those mother brain bitches ;-;
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>>128941009
There's no level barrier if you put a pass

It'll nerf me hard to make it fair
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So you get a neato +13.5% radial gem from the first chalice, are there any other good starting gems? Specifically waning and triangle?

Also, when do nourishing gems start to enter the picture? I'm not talking about top-dollar stuff, but stuff you can farm before you start farming for the things you want to be farming for.
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>>128940823
oh for fuck's sake, one shot by that stupid fucking explosion. I'll ring again if you guys don't get it.
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>>128940989

You are a Great One among Beasts, thanks
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>>128925963
>>128925463
I want to TEASE Maria about her relatively short stature and then BULLY her.
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>>128941257
We got him, but thanks for trying man. Thanks to other guy, too. That was amazing. I'm trying to do a Chikage build, and I've never done a build that wasn't strength so this is all a bit new to me.
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>>128907562
im the boomhammer guy, didnt realize how much i lagged. Must be wifi.
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>defiled amy
I shouldn't have doubted
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>"Bloodborne's pvp is shit because the community made it shit"
>"people would rather listen to a youtuber that made a meta video before the game even came out than pay attention to a defense stat that caps out at level 145"
Thoughts on this?
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No, we shall not abandon the meme!
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>>128941669
autistic fight clubs are pretty shit

really, get to a comfy level (145 is still good for pvp and co-op) and just have fun.

I hope this shit is dead in DS3. Just what I want is some faggot like Vaati or a streamer saying "LE 120 META OR DIE" and have it catch on as a meme
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Post hand holders hand holding
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Playing through Dragon's Dogma for the first time right now, and I'm kind of pissed off.

Why aren't greatweapons like this in Souls?

The Kirkhammer in bloodborne you can get instantly stunned out of it at any fucking point. Dogma you just full on hyper armour through everything to deliver these satisfying blows.

Why? Fast weapons do the same fucking damage if not more than slow weapons in these games, why the fuck do they not have proper hyper armour? It makes literally none of their movesets viable other than dash r1.

At least Dark Souls 2 after the latest patches kind of made poise on the big stuff a bit more useful, but still.

It's fucking dumb. I get that Dark Souls 1's poise was too heavy handed, meaning that you could have max poise + fast weapons for literally GG everytime, but why can't they just put full hyper armour on slow weapons/attacks?

Fast weapons would still probably be able to get in and get out before an attack finishes often anyway, so why not?
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>>128941669
defense increase from 100-145 is 4.9%
increase in ar from a 50/50 stat spread is more than 5% on most weapons with quality scaling and a heavy abyssal
fuck off
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>>128941932
>lady maria
>whirligig
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My guiding Memelight
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>>128941932
>lady maria cosplay
>pizza cutter
gross
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>>128941951
It's a different. It''s hard to get hit out of anything except sorcerer spells which are easy to when going up against anything relevant. They have pretty big tells but it's hard not to get hit in DD in the first place except for specific builds.
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>>128942039
>>128942141
The person is from here and said they already had a Skill build but wanted to cosplay Maria with different weapons because they like her style.
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>>128941951
>PCucks get a shitty port of a shitty game
>people instantly forget the awful reviews of 3 years ago
t. Star Wars.
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>>128938003
Everything was in the game m8
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Anyone for NG Laurence?
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>>128941951
Souls games gentrify weapons to fit every player.
Diversity gets sacrificed for an easy learning curve.
>>128942275
PS3 DD player here, everyone told the reviews to fuck off.
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>>128942275
Dogma has always been a good game m8. One of the best games of the last generation.
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>>128939246
So Kos was not a true Great One was well. I'm tired of these fucking half-breeds.
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>>128942368
>unironically using gentrify
fuck off nigger
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>>128942169
I disagree that's its different.

Heavy weapons are never fucking viable in souls compared to fast ones because they're not actually balanced fairly. Dark Souls 2 as of latest patch is closest it gets, where you can't get fucked out of your attack right as you go to start it and it makes more much more interesting unlocked str play in that game.

If Log wheel and others had full hyper armour on their attacks, you'd actually be able to use the full moveset stylishly in pvp instead of just the dash attacks.

Everytime I go back to trying the kirkhammer I get depressed about it. Can only use the full moveset on the most braindead and retarded pve. Against players you see everyone just switch out to another weapon after a point.
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>>128938003
Literally all of the story is present in the game itself. Point to one piece of lore that is only in the art book, please.

>>128942426
Kos was absolutely a true great one. Do you seriously think beings that exists on a higher plane of existence can't control their physical form?
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>>128942340
hold up I'll get my quadriplegic grandma she loves ng co-op
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>>128942493
You know it's true anon.
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>>128941951
Kirkhammer gets plenty of hyperarmor ya dingus
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>>128942340
on my way, password?
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Im actually sick and tired of Chalices and i havent even begun farming.
Im so fucking bored
How the fuck did you guys even bother with this shit. Let alone farming at 98. Its suffering by itself.
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>>128941951
Balancing.

Dragons dogma combat is different than souls by quite a bit. Also I know a lot of classes like magick archer are OP as fuck but just counting how hard you can break warrior I'd say it's the most overpowered class. It makes BBI a fucking joke and literally everything gets downed in a couple hits to the legs.
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>>128942578
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>>128942578
>>128942673
bbg
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>>128941669
Bloodborne's pvp is shit because From made it shit. It's a poorly balanced afterthought tacked on to a rushed game. The mechanics of BB don't lend themselves well to pvp, and the mechanics of BB's multiplayer only make this worse. The game's pvp, and multiplayer in general, is simply not good enough to be worth taking seriously in any capacity.

Nobody half half a brain listens to youtubers, and nobody listens to a shitter crutch stat that exists to handhold pve players who think 'more levels' is the solution to any boss or area they have difficulty with. The damage gains from leveling beyond 100 far outstrip the defense gains, so that softcap is effectively meaningless. People pvping under 120 didn't ruin pvp in this game, the pvp was already too terrible for there to be any 'ruining' to do.
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The night, and the meme... were long...
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>>128941532
>That image edit
holy shit I've never seen that before, that's fucking hilarious.
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>>128942642
>Souls games change weapons to fit every white middle-class male player

It doesn't even make sense.
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>>128942803
The night, and my dick... were long...
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Defiled Amy for anyone who wants in, pass is bbg
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>>128942676
I didn't have any issues the second time I did it but I have to do it a third time and I'm worried. Though I haven't beaten the game yet. I started doing chalices halfway the first playthrough wanted to make a BLT build. Made a second one. Got all the way to the same spot. Now I want to make an ARc build.
I stop at mensis after I've beaten EVERY necessary dungeon except for the one that requires big brain get through mensis and stop halfway. I'll get back to it eventually. I just want to play different builds.
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>>128942272
I even have the Rakuyo as my other also +10, I just use the pizza cutter for the odd PvE and PvP.
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>>128942525
There were no true great one left in Yahrnam. The Mensis school summoned the Infant Great One Mergo and Gerhman the Moon Presence. Every one else was a filthy half-breed left by the true Great One when they left Phltumerum, like the abandoned Ebrietas.
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Go on, good memer
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>>128942916
I'll be there
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>>128942578
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memes all over the shop
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>>128942916
I'm ringing, but not getting anything.
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>>128943075
What's that smell?

The sweet memes, they sing to me...
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>>128943016
I'm pretty sure Ebby is an actual full on Great One.
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>>128942927

Well ive git Depth 5 and the spiders one shot me, and most enemies will 2 hit me
And i know that itll get worse the deeper i go and im not having fun. On top of that ill need to farm after all this shit
Who the fuck at from thought this was a good idea
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>>128943191
Lemme reset real quick
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>>128943246
it's enough to make a man meme
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Grant us memes. Grant us memes!
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Is the guy ringing for Amy an executioner? I'm a filthy Vileblood and just got into an executioners world
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>>128943016
Kos wasn't in Yharnam, she was in the ocean and washed up on shore. And Ebrietas is a great one. There's no evidence whatsoever of "half breeds". Only humans that were experimented on or touched by a great one, like the celestial emissaries.
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>>128943309
I've only had issues with Amy and Aborrant beast. The rest were pretty easy. But I haven't hit the last one with the queen. Spiders are annoying as fuck but you can spot them from a mile away unless you mean bell bitches which fuck them. I hate them. I wish they weren't in the game.
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>>128943292
I'll take a page from Veety's book here and say the only true Great Ones we fight show "Nightmare Slaughtered" when they die.
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Fighting against a saif with a boomhammer has just now basically redpilled me as to a glaring issue with this games combat:

Skill weapon users have 0 fear of STR weapon users in this game. They don't pucker up a little bit. There's no caution or risk, they don't see any issue.

When a STR weapon user comes across a skill weapon, they legitimately get worried and think, they have to play their absolute best to win, and it likely still won't be enough.

The skill build thinks to themselves "my R1 finger is getting sore, after I kill this person I need to take a shit".
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>>128943536
How bout you go ahead and kill yourself instead
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>>128943536
>Veety's
Stopped reading.
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>>128943495
Nah man I'm a confederate
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>>128941842
Metas catch on because the matchmaking system makes it so that being outside of a high-activity level range means you effectively get no activity. Everybody wants one clear level range set in stone so that you're reasonably assured activity when you want to invade, co-op or duel.

It just so happens that youtube and twitch e-celebs usually hijack the conversation and push their pet meta on their mindless fans, who in turn force it through numbers alone. Rather than getting something that's good for everybody, conveniently close to typical endgame levels or ideal for pvp balance, you end up with whatever best enables one twitchshitter's endgouge, dumpstatgouge, use-everything buffbuild.

Now that this 150 meta has started, it'll probably be pushed again in DaS3, as well.
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>>128943629
Still not getting ya bruh.
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>>128943536
"nightmare slaughtered" shows up when we kill a great one on their chosen plane of existence, a nightmare they created, or are at least linked to.

Ebrietas exists in the waking world.
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I'm so happy I did a Burial Blade run, this weapon is an absolute blast, same with the Church Pick. Man I've been missing out by sticking with my Bloodtinge builds.
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>>128943546
use a saw cleavrer instead of some c tier bullshit if you can't handle using the suboptimal weapon
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>>128943629
Okay, still ringing for you.
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>>128943546
>man uses bad weapon and loses to good weapon
color me shocked
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>>128943546
It's funny you say this, as the boom hammer wielding hunter legitimately frightens me.

It's because they have actual hyper armour and are an actual threat. Boomhammer works great in their hands. For player's it's a dumb hot noodle.
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>>128943691
I love the burial blade but unfortunately it's an end game weapon which is just a huge stinker.

I'm using it in NG+ but since my build only has 25 skill it doesn't do as much damage as I know it could do. I still use it though because it's just so fun. I'd love to do a playthrough using this thing sometime. If only you could get it way earlier.
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>>128943756
It shouldn't be a fucking bad weapon. The NPC hunters that use the weapon are amazingly hard to fight. It's the same damn moveset, why is it a bad weapon?
>>
What do Vermin do? I know you can stomp on them, but are they just for a visual effect?
>>
Stake Driver or Ludwigs? I'm not entire sure which to cram shards into
>>
So a question to any Executioners and Vilecucks:
How often do you guys run into each other. It's a cool feature that I wish happened more often, same for HoH.
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>>128943903
because you're gay lmao
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Would it be correct to suggest that some of the more flowery and prose like language used in Bloodborne or Souls series games is a result of the nature of Japanese as a language?

Or is the Japanese itself, uh... More archaic even within the context of its own language?
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>>128943927
You get an emote and a helmet from Valtr for crushing 5, as well as the snake whistle.

Otherwise you can just use the crushing animation to stomp particularly bad players in pvp.
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>>128943903
See
>>128943782

STR weapons appear to be good when PVE uses them, because PVE get actual hyper armour on their attacks and are thus scary and challenging.

Player's with STR weapons are just advertising when you can just walk up and kill them. Sorry, that's the way it is.

Stop bitching and use a Rakuyo/Saif/Saw Spear if you want to actually do pvp in this game like everyone else does.
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>>128943837
I rushed straight to the end, flogged Gerhman, then Marked out of the Moon Presence fight. I proceeded to go buy it, and finish up all the optional stuff the game had to offer.
Saw Spear carried me to that point while I stacked Skill into my character along the way.
>>128943939
Stake is fun as hell when you have the Strength stats behind it, but Ludwigs is more useful.
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>>128943939
You know the answer already, anon.
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>>128943782
I feel like a good boomhamer user is just as difficult. That weapon is limited but when you know the sweet spots it's pretty deadly.
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>>128943497
Kos was sometime in Yharnam, as the School of Mensis knows about her and she elevated Rom. You're right there's no solid evidence they are half-breeds, but keep in mind "Every Great One loses its child and yearns for a surrogate", I say their children with humans keep dying because they're imperfect to begin with and so they keep trying to make a child. Ebrietas, Amigdala, Kos and Oedon were not what the true Great Ones (The Lords) wanted when they tried to have children with humans and so were left behind. There's some hard speculation there, but I think makes the most sense. I could expand on that.

>>128943679
Amygdala shows "Prey Slaughtered" when killed in her plane though.
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>>128944401
It takes literally every ounce of effort to win as a str weapon user. The only reason they'd win against a skill build is if that skill build was underestimating and expecting an ezfrag and got hit by some well aimed attacks.

However, a skill build trying their best at equal skill level of a str build doing the same will win, every time. No ifs ands or buts. Fast attacks > slow attacks.

It's different in something like Dark Souls 2, where you can cancel attacks and properly bait and there's a slower more defensive play. You can afford to swing intentionally to miss and then bait into an aimed attack.

In Bloodborne, that isn't a thing. You can't bait attacks. You'll try, and they'll dodge your second attack anyway, because they can because they're faster than your attack.
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>>128944614
>her
every time
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>>128944614
Vaati please.
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does bloodborne have the most memorable lines in a game ever? i find myself just muttering "what's that smell" under my breathe.
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>>128944838
you should probably wipe next time, friend
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>>128944838
>Ah, moonlit scents...!
>>
Well, shit. Just finished Defiled and now I need the materials for Great Pthumeru. What's the best way to get Red Jelly and more ritual 5 if I have to burn it on a dungeon to get it?
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>>128944614
Amygdala, Ebrietas, Kos, and Odeon are not the children of humans. Odeon is a disembodied voice, for fuck's sake.

>Amygdala shows "Prey Slaughtered"
exactly. Nightmare frontier.
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>>128944838
>...even the doll, should it please you...
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>>128944401
That's probably thanks to the uncharged R2 having a massive conal range and essentially being a massive 700 damage projectile.

The boomhammer has all of the problems of every other strength weapon, but it has at least a couple attacks that don't rely on hyper armor because they have other things going for them. It's actually a pretty unconventional weapon in pvp thanks to that.

It still grinds my gears a little bit that the boomhammer has this incredibly R2 that's so useful and versatile while doing massive damage, and every other strength weapon foes less single-hit damage with attacks that are much less useful and versatile. You'd think if a boomhammer's uncharged R2 at ~700AR does around 700 damage to a player, then a kirkhammer L2 must hit even harder, but you'd be wrong.
>>
Amygdala's arm doesn't even look like an amygdala's arm
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>finally killed Ludwig solo
>leveled moonlight sword to +10

TIME FOR

ARCANE
R
C
A
N
E
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>>128944838
>The sweet blood, oh, it sings to me. It's enough to make a man sick...
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>>128944985
>Amygdala, Ebrietas, Kos, and Odeon are not the children of humans. Odeon is a disembodied voice, for fuck's sake.
You are thinking in the basest of planes
Memes aside we know they can, see Mergo. Mergo was a true Great One born of a human, but died of stillbirth or was murdered. It is not far fetched to think the others were too, but not as quite like Mergo.
>>
Oh my God Joshua I fucking suck
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>>128945310
STR usually gets shafted pvp wise. So it's not really surprising. What's surprising is that ludwigs is amazingly stable as a weapon but it's about the only one.
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>>128945357
Have fun anon, I can't use the bloody thing to save my life.
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>>128945424
>It's rather... rapturous... I...
>*incoherent giggling*
The only real reason I remember that line is because it made me rock hard the first time I heard it.
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>>128944974
Layer 2 of Lower Loran and layer 1 of Ailing Loran.
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>>128945357
Build?
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>>128944838
Gehrman's sleep talk is really sad

>>128945441
It has nothing to do with if it is far fetched or not, you have no evidence whatsoever.
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>>128945559
"Ludwig's is a strength weapon" is a really bad meme. Its str and skl scaling are perfectly equal. It's a true quality weapon.
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>>128945604
She got boned so hard she is still twitching from orgasm aftershocks.
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>>128945357
WEW MOONLITE
I hope you mean you leveled a Lost one
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>>128945641
No I don't, it's more close to hints ans speculation. And since you're keen on not discussing anything I'll not bother you anymore trying to explain.
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what story gems/dlc gems can help a tricked HMS get through chalice dungeons solo? i'm at defiled diamond dog now, and am suffering.
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>>128945620
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>>128946058
your 53 triggers my autism, make it 15 end
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>>128945967
15% nourishing radial and 18% arc droplet, both found in mensis
there's a flat arc gem in hamlet too, I think

though why you're doing that instead of taking a fire/bolt saw spear through CDs is beyond me
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>use Whirligig Saw
>kill Rom in literally under a minute
wew lad
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>Spend all day playing bloodborne
>No regrets, day well spent

>Spend all day fucking gf
>Can't help but think about how much progress I could've made with one of my builds if I were doing that instead

I've hit the point of literal fucking autism, haven't I?
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>>128945761
Shouldn't radial x2 triangle be better since it is pure arcane?
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>>128946186
well i'm at 40 str/50 arcane, so HMS would still do more damage i believe.
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Which version of the Chikage should I use?
Or does it not matter if I farm for off shapes?
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>>128946249
You've officially acquired 99 Insight. Stop associating with Beastly plebs.
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>>128945761
untricked: str and skl scaling matters
tricked: arcane scaling for beams, but if you can actually hit with the melee when you do a beam, you benefit from physical scaling.

i believe this is how HMS works but someone else can verify

>>128946365
you want the version with the circle built in so it's 1 less korean gem you need. keep in mind that the AR gain from 32% isn't really that big. i think someone said it's only like 22 AR?
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>>128945357
>>128946058
Maybe I'm just an idiot but I thought I read that Ludwigs does better when scaling primarily off Strength/Skill?
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>>128945938
Occam's razor man, there's no reason story-wise for there to be a whole bunch of half-breeds walking around, and without evidence there's no reason to think they are.

Some are ascended, like Rom, some may be an actual half breed (only one I can think of right now that is 100% a halfie is Arianne's pink goo baby, Mergo is not human, but Pthumerian), but most of them are just different old ones doing their old one thing.
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>>128946502
>>128946058
So in other words this guy is pretty much going to use the weapon solely while tricked??
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>>128946249
>Spend all day fucking gf
waste of time desu senpai
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>>128946510
Projectiles are pure arcane and trick normal attacks are half physical half arcane scaling.
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>>128946258
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>>128945604
>>*incoherent giggling*
This makes my dick way harder than it should.
https://youtu.be/s2QQZVXhPPs
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>>128946632
Yup.
That reminds me, we're do I farm off shapes again?
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>invading in the areas before Micolash
>Name is Micolash
>account name is Micolash
>Name on the account in Micolash
>look like Micolash
>only wearing Micolash's clothes
>full arcane and vit
>only use Augur and A Call Beyond
>have Parasite Equipped because without milkweed rune, it isn't visible and you only use fists, but still hit for 200-300
>invade some guy and spend about a whole hour stopping him from getting to Micolash
>end up killing about 10 different phantoms
>finally out of all my potions and bullets
>rush guy and his two phantoms
>somehow kill him and his buddies
>guy starts sending me hate mail
>FUCK YOU FUCKING CUNT YOU FUCKING SUCK ONLY RUNING PIECE OF SHIT
>only ever reply with Micolash quotes
>only makes the guy even more upset
Sometimes this game can be so much fun.
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>>128946308
no, it wouldn't
nourishing setups only serve to create a jack-of-all-trades of the weapon as opposed to arc setups that add a little damage to all of the tricked moveset and a giant boost to R2/L2 damage and physical setups that make everything stronger but gimp tricked R2/L2

at 50 arc, a saw spear will do proportionally better damage and is more so emphasized in your case because of the gem options available to it
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>>128946543
It's fine to think like that, but I prefer to think everything is connected for the plot to make sense and there must be a reason for those things to happen. They all being Great Ones and just doing their incomprehensible cosmic thing is just not fun. There must be a reason.
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>>128946742
I'm not understanding, how does this mean that lost is better than regular when each slot can have nourishing gems?
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>>128909861
Doll, why did you steal that from Iosefka?
Not a very tasteful joke right after I butchered her.
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>>128947107
Majestic!
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>>128947285
Radials are 19.5, Waning are 21.5
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>>128947231
>their incomprehensible cosmic thing
They're competing. The Moon Presence created the Hunter's Dream and enslaved Gherman (and later you, if you kill him) to train more hunters to go and kill other great ones.
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>>128947231
That would defeat the point.
They're beyond human understanding, you shouldn't be able to grasp what they're actually doing, nor why.
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>>128947107
AWOOOOOO
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>>128947231
>Incomprehensible cosmic thing

Welcome to H.P Lovecraft
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>>128947463
Vaati please.
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lore memefags
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>>128947463
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>>128947178
i'm not sure what gems are available in the main game that somehow make saw spear better while doing chalice dungeons.
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>>128946849
Holy shit, I've never seen that before. What do you have to do to trigger it?

In every playthrough I've ever done she just sits and giggles after Rom and never does anything for the rest of the game
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>>128946249
>Spend all day fucking gf
>when you could be playing bloodborne

come one now
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>>128947932
you have to take arianne's blood 3 times, then she goes mad with jealousy
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>>128947178
have you tested this? this guy has >>128946742 and it's even done in a PvE capacity.

Nourishing gems are objectively better unless you are autistic to the point of needing just a little bit extra untricked damage.

I also don't understand the point of using a weapon if you're not using all of it. That's like trying to use the Chicago without Bloodtinge, or the Reiter without firing a pistol shot with it.
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>>128947932
Keep taking Arianna's blood while the nun is there and she'll kill Arianna and try to kill you.
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>>128947107

I really need to make a Micolash, every time I read about them they sound awesome.
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>>128946249
Why do you fuck all day? I mean, yeah, I've had days where we have sex a couple of times, but never these marathon sessions.

Shit, when the hour mark hits I'm starting to feel bored and the stench of sweaty copulation gets to be too much. I mean, yeah, it feels good, but I could take molly and rub my face on the carpet if I just wanted to "feel good".
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>>128947463
My two cents is that after the death of Maria and the start of The Hunt, Gerhman (and perhaps Laurence as well) used an umbilical cord to summon the Moon Presence and asked her to stop Mergo and she answered, after all they're sympathetic in nature. The Hunter's Dream is the solution, but the humans must stop the ritual themselves. So on the nights of The Hunt, the night of the red moon, one hunter is beckoned to the hunter's dream to try and kill Mergo.
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Can someone please help me with those two giant fish beast in the well at the fishers hamlet?

password bbg124
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Anyone up for Defiled Amy? Pass is bbg.
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>Pizza Cutting bosses after building up full beasthood

Jesus moonwalking christ this is unreal
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>>128948401
Sure, on my way.
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>>128948272
>her
>she
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>>128947107
>invading in the cathedral ward
>name is Executioner
>look like Executioner
>only wearing Executioner's clothes
>invade some guy
>he has two friends
>immediately dives for the fog gate
>sent back to my own world

I-I just want to defend her...
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>>128948218
Idunno, just grab some snacks, maybe have the tv on in the back and just make a day of it, have some lazing around inbetween with some short breaks
Could've gotten some heavy abyssals man
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>>128948992
>▶
>>128948992
>▶
>>128948992
>▶
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>>128948272
Can you reconcile that with the dialogue Gherman has while he sleeps?

I don't know it by heart, but it goes something like "Master Willem... Maria... Help me, please. I've had enough of this dream. Enough of this nightmare. Somebody, anybody help me, release me. Please... (and then he cries)"
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Are 20% gems good enough in the FC for someone who doesn't want to be Korean?
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>>128949390
don't come back to the thread butthurt when you get two or three shot and hit people 5-6 times before getting btfo
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>>128948658
Fucking everybody on this board refers to unknown entities as females, its gross and retarded
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>>128947463
Got any evidence to support that?
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>>128949765
see >>128949101

and the fact that the entire point of the game is to kill great ones, and the "true" ending is overcoming the moon presence.
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>>128949390
If you're str, just get 27s from watchers. You can go korean about heavy abyssals and blunts later on
If you're skl, just get 27s from watchers. There's nothing better because skl needs nothing better
If you're blt, just get 27s from watchers. You can get korean about offshapes later on
If you're arcane, you're stuck between shitty 20% bolt gems from the dlc or going full korean for cold abyssals. Don't bother with arc unless you're willing to farm your life away in damp dungeons.
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>>128947463
MP enslaved Gehrman because it wanted a child and Gehrman beckoned it with the cord.
He proceeded to train hunters to go out and kill beasts because he's a hunter and wants to kill beasts.
I'm pretty sure most of the hunters he trained never even encountered Great Ones, the night the player goes through is kind of a special case due to the mensis ritual.
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>>128948272
Mergo is a baby.
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>>128949101
The first time he is sleeping he says "Oh Laurence... what's taking you so long? I've grow too old for this, of little use now, I'm afraid..."
This bit of dialogue implies he was waiting for Laurance to do something, that he can not do anymore. I believe he and Laurence summoned the Moon Presence to grant them strength to stop the ritual, but Gerhman was too old so it fell to Laurence to do it, but as we know clerics transform into the most hideous beasts and so Laurence failed their quest. Gerhman had to try again in the next Hunt.
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>>128950097
Mergo is an infant Great One.
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>>128918421
so why do people stop at 98? So they can cheese low levels in PvP without having to deal with supermans?

I was around 96 and just said fuck it and leveled up more.
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>>128950556
The ritual takes place on the night that the player happens upon the city and is contracted as a hunter. MP's summoning happened a long time before it.
>but Gerhman was too old
Motherfucker he can fly through the air and shoot wind blasts from a magic scythe.
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>>128950869
Yup.
Only like 20 people total do 98 though, and 18/20 of them are from bbg.
The actual meta is 120
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>>128951140
I bet no one this newbie hunters can't even pick up a single fair maiden
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dead
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What's the story on the chalice dungeons? How did humanoid enemies get there?

Also, what was Ebrietas used for at the healing church? Was she used for anything or just worshipped?

T. Not knower
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>>128951140
The note in the dream says "To escape this dreadful Hunter's Dream, halt the source of the spreading scourge of beasts, lest the night carry on forever.", another in Old Yahrnam says "The red moon hangs low, and beasts rule the streets. Are we left no other choice, than to burn it all to cinders?" It implies that the Church decided to burn Old Yahrnam in a night that had a red moon. This other note says "When The hunt Began, the Healing Church left us, blocking the great bridge to Cathedral Ward, as Old Yharnam burned to the ground that moonlit night." So it implies The hunt began when they burned Old Yahrnam. These two: "Madmen toil surreptitiously in rituals to beckon the moon. Uncover their secrets." and "The Mensis ritual must be stopped, lest we all become beasts." seems to imply that the red moon is the Mensi's ritual and the source of the spreading scourge of the beast. Now the last one: "The nameless moon presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates. Paleblood."

If you take all in consideration we can deduce that the mensis ritual began and brought the red moon, the scourge advanced like never before, the Church decided to burn Old Yahrnam and closed the gates to the Cathedral. Laurence and his associates summoned the MP. It's not possible for this to happen on a single night as you said it yourself the MP summon happened long ago, so the alternative leaves it that ever few nights the ritual starts again, the red moon descends, the Hunt starts and another hunter is beckoned to the Dream.
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