/tf2g/ - Team Fortress 2 General

pottis

hi

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>>128550996
hey, thats my screenshot

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>tf2
>not tfc

pottis

pottis

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>>128550996
post angry screenshots

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>it's a medic contract

>>128551338
This is the cutest webm.

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>>128552527
i like russian ones better

>>128551338
hi xionxang

noob here

pls rate my loadout

how get better at spy?

>>128553538
Sneaky/10

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>>128553538
whoops

>>128553731
don't use amby if you can't aim

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>play spy, which i don't do often
>score two doms being a huge piece of shit with the ambassador and the dead ringer
>die three times, all from attempting actual spy shit (one botched backstab and two botched sappings)

i don't think i'm cut out for this class

>>128553731
Pretty good loadout. Best learn map layouts as best you can so you can get from point A to point B as fast as possible while invisible. As the other guy said, if you cant land headshots don't use the Amby.

https://tf2center.com/lobbies/609126
come mumble too

Address: mumble-de.cleanvoice.com
Port: 48816

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>>128553347
hi

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>these advanced objectives
why must i suffer

>>128555518
Just ask to tauntkill someone a few times.

>make a single mistake as soldier
>pryro can continue w+m1
ing me and wins by default

I'm really upset about this game sometimes

>>128555725
Why don't you make some distance first? I mean, you are the most mobile class.

>>128555725
just shoot at his feet you scrub

i bet its all euros in mumble

>>128555058
your lobby is fucking shit like yourself. You barely have over a thousand hours and you're kicking people for no reason. Not to mention, you're a futa fag which really seals the deal on your autism. Fucking an hero

>>128556594
Addendum: futa fags are the most dislikeable because people specifically say "no futa" in the OP and you guys still post futa.

Literally worse than furries

>>128555853
Running backwards is easy to get stuck somewhere and rocketjumping away will make it impossible to kill him too, since it's easy to reflect and having even faster to reload before dealing any damage

>>128556594
why didn't you join the mumble

you had a russian name and no lobbies so we thought id just be a guy griefing

>>128556594
this kid is PISSED

>>128557185
I'm not russian you retard, and he had more lobbies and hours than yourself I might add.

You're an asswipe who kicks players who are better than you because he might not speak english (something you don't even know is true or not).

English is the most common language in the world, more chinese people speak english than American.

Kill yourself

>>128557430
yeah bro

>>128557284
I just don't understand why people take lobbies so seriously that they kick people who might possibly affect their chance of winning. It's a lobby, not ESEA, stop trying to stack the teams like a little bitch

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>>128557430
>lobby count matters
>playtime matters
>being this upset

>>128557574
i just dont understand why people take lobbies so seriously they post angry paragraphs on laotian moon landing faking plazas when they get kicked from the video game

>>128557430
he only kicked this guy
https://tf2center.com/profile/76561198007937321
russian name and 8 lobbies
shut the fuck up idiot

>>128557574
I personally only ever kick people who are faggots or stacking.

>>128557762
B

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GOLD FRYING PAN DROP!

>>128558286
>people still care about this

>>128558286
I bet you still care that people sometimes destroy their golden frying pans

showstopper is my tf2compfu

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>>128559347
this one is mine

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>>128559347

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>>128556594
>>128557430
It was actually my friend who posted the lobby but to clear things up
i hope you don't really think I'm on those groups seriosly, or that I like half the things on there
>more lobbies than you
he had 8, I have 800, not thaty it fucking matters, nor playtime, as in
>bare over a thousand hours
which I'm sorry I don't have, because my efforts to spend every waking hour of my life playing this game are neglected by the other aspects of my life
>who kicks players who are better than you because he might not speak english
russian is actually cool and i'll learn it someday
i kicked him after asking my friend and getting a yes
you should also considering not getting pissed over videogames
also another lobby up:
https://tf2center.com/lobbies/609169

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I'm really bored with pubs that pick the worst possible teamcomps with tons of engis, snipers and spies and not a single medic anywhere seen. I main medic and it always happens I play anything else, nobody is even noticing that it's impossible to take a fucking point when half the team is building their shit sentries in our base and not even one of them dropping a teleporter that is usefull, holy shit these people playing this game

>>128559490
Who is that trap?

>>128559840
nursey

>>128559960
fuckoff i wasnt gonna say anything
its waffleb

>>128559643
Play comp then

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1jbTAsrLhxz
psa

>>128560974
No they aren't. A real gay guy would never touch one. True traps are only for bisexuals and girls.

https://tf2center.com/lobbies/609183

gasol lobby incoming

>>128560974
.......
ok

>>128561151
>A real gay guy
you sure sound like a Homosexual Expert
youre wrong btw
>>128561352
>gasol lobby
(puke)

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>>128561482
Actually, I'm bisexual myself, which makes me an expert on the topic.

>>128561642
no you're just a trap lover and a closet gay

>>128561828
If I'm gay, then why do I want a girl to literally suffocate me with her breasts?

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so mad

>>128562014
because you just want men to have breasts to replace the need for a proper female
bet you like fuckers on hormones too

>>128562169
Counter argument. No I don't.

>>128562167
hey i know that person in the chat

>>128562167
>Aida's Wrath

>>128562789
Its Ada you faggot not everything has to do with Aida. God damn you're so obsessed with them. Just confess your love for them and have sex already

>>128562384
which one?

>>128562789
dont associate me with that person please

>>128563058
this

i want to have *** with my tf2gfu

>>128563860
i want to have lobby with my tf2gfu

i want to awoo with my tf2g

>>128564324
fuck you

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I want to talk about tf2_.

>>128564672
What do you want to talk about?
There are too many shitters on the thread to have a proper discussion.

>>128563970
Hey I can be your tf2gfu if that's what you want.

>>128564820
you sound kinda rude i dont want you to be my tf2gfu

>>128564938
Want to lobby instead?

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>>128564820
Well, okay.
Why is having more stickybomb launcher kills than Grenade Launcher kills considered something to be ashamed of?

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I'll never understand why players who don't care about the objective still care about not losing. If all you care about is dming, losing has no impact on your ability to dm. The map restarts and you get back to it.

>>128565024
it isnt
if youre playing right thats what they should look like
baddies get really upsetwhen they die to sticks though i still dont know why

>>128565024
Is this a joke? I think it was because of people complaining about stickies.
Back then, they were just better than pipes, but now I'm not so sure.

>>128565053
You can KILL for a few more seconds when you win.

https://tf2center.com/lobbies/609220

meme format 6s

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>get bored and decide to play on an orange server
>server full of nothing but demos throwing stickies everywhere
I have a feeling this is what always crit servers look like all the time

>>128565880
Go sniper and kill them with bodyshots
Or engineer with pistol

>>128565024
That's just salt from pubscrubs. In comp, the sticky launcher is the demo's main workhorse.
At any rate, expecting an 8 sticky gun to have fewer kills than a 4 grenade gun sounds like demoknight shittery.

its my reddit cakeday
what should i do

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>>128566005
>first few shots
>a second highest score demo on the enemy team starts spamming about body shotting noob sniper in chat
This is just too hilarious. I find it hilarious watching some of the demomen trying to kill people with stickies from a mile away by full charging the launcher.

>>128566468
Post some bullshit and lap up the attention. Same thing your doing here really.

>>128566468
Praise Alan Rickman's performance in Sweeney Todd

Everyone else keeps circlejerking over Die Hard and Harry Potter

Have any of you guys played tf2 classic? Is it any good or is it an even deader game?

>>128567563
its retarded

>>128567563
it's pretty damn bad, despite what the nostalgic retards that didnt even play the game will say.

and it's very dead

>>128566730
First one I thought of was Dogma.

https://tf2center.com/lobbies/609259

more meme 6s

i dont like gasol

>>128569898
what has he done

how do i confess to my tf2gfu

>>128567949
>>128568049
damn, I was hoping for good news, thanks though

>>128570186
me

>check tf2 reddit for any official news or updates
>notice something weird
>check it out
>circlejerker fag here is a m'lady redditor with tens of thousands of fake internet points for having popular opinions
I guess I shouldn't be surprised

>>128570731
he truly has no standards

>>128571053
:x

Who here only pretends to be gay to get attention?
I don't. I like dick.

>>128563058
:x
that's not easy

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>>128571424
gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transsexuals should be killed

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>>128571845
I'd like to see you try.

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>>128571845
So is this a cry out for help? Are you planning on killing yourself? Don't do it you shouldn't kill yourself.

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>>128572018
mge me irl

>>128572061
i am none of the things i listed

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>>128571845
Don't worry they won't reproduce. LGBT liberation is a secret ploy to remove the faggot genes from gene pool.

We can't have all of the homos stay in the closet and make homo babies. Very clever.

let me comm with you next time ok?

>>128570273
I wish I knew. My tf2gfu is some who that came in the mumble last night. I dont know who the heck they are but they sounded really cute tbg

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lets play a game

>>128572914
no

>>128572914
yes

>>128572914
maybe

>>128572914
P

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>>128573068
>>128573004
>>128573004
>>128572975
dump ass

>>128573117

>>128573264
o

>>128573264
t

>>128573264
u

>>128573264
I

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by the way, first come first serve


>>128573309

>>128573459
L

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>>128573551
hes reaping it all boys

>>128573663
Z

>>128573663
y

>>>/y/

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>>128573737

>>128573872
e

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>>128574148

>>128573864
>>>/y/

>>128574263
n

how do people make the "pyro hurt" "demo hurt" etc show up on their hud?

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>>128575012

>>128575189
O

>>128575189
Q

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>>128575272
idiot HRRGAAAAAAAAA

>>128575293

it's black box you stupid nigger

>Have story idea for tf2 sfm movie
>It's over dramatic shit that I cant find a way to put humor into
Cringey drama sfm movies are the worst, but my autism can't be quelled

>>128573864
>>128574385
>>>/y/tf2
>>>/cm/tf2

>>128575448
SHHHHHHHHHUT UP SHH

your puzzles fucking suck

then how come youre almost losing it
check mate

>not play TF2 for over a year
>redownload it recently
>most of my favorite loadouts are there that i could not sell
>shit I did sell are selling for basically pennies for what I told them as
>feeling it again
>that rush of a minisentry+pistol/shotgun kill
>that high of not sucking with the quick fix
>that splurgenasty in my pants during a black box+conch run
>the magical sounds of killstreaks with scout stock
>LnL+demoknight still is fun kinda i guess
help me, I already spent thousands of hours and dollars on this game and dont wanna get sucked back in

>>128555518
>charge
>run into someone
>repeat five more times

>>128575391
T

>>128575965
Why would you deny yourself happiness from something you enjoy? Just play the fucking game faggot.

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>>128576097
good job

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>>128576097
PEEP PEEP you lost a two keys raffle stupid

>>128575965
Wait for the matchmaking

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Why don't you have all the taunts, /tf2g/?

>>128576304
The answer is black box

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new one

>>128576667
X

>>128576661
im black
*steals*

>>128576518
because i'm poor

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>>128576710
PEEP

>>128576667
E

>>128576859
H

shit general mods please delete

>>128577107
V

>>128576518
>Every class has at least two taunts except for Heavy
>Heavy doesn't even have one made by Valve
Remember when Heavy was the face of TF2?

>>128577107
A

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>>128577141

>>128577302
B

>>128577107
I said E don't ignore me faggot

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>>128577331
>>128577331


>>128577348
first come first serve fagola

>>128576518
because there are only 8 slots and some are fucking terrible
>Sniper notepad
>Sniper eye thing
>medic xray
>demo mushroom cloud
>both pyro taunts
>chicken and ninja
>alien
>russian dance
All fucking awful

>>128577490
Battalion's Backup

>>128577490
O

>>128577490
babyfaces blaster

he's only accepting input from half left
this is an irc circlejerk game spilling over into the thread
hope the mods comes in soon for his daily cp check and gets rid of it

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>>128577554
ding ding ding hes right folks
contragulations

>>128577537
>medic xray is bad
better watch that hot opinion

>>128577764
What's my prize

(x.x)
. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiZDgxYYzfw\
This update was lewd as fuck

>>128577537
I'll give you all of that except the Medic X-ray and the Russian dance.

They're pretty cool.

I honestly don't like the Meet the Medic taunt, personally.

>>128578296
fuck you

>>128578296
t f 2 -
g f u

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>>128578332
lol youre dumb

>>128578482
shit man

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>>128578687
nice try

>>128578794
nice try

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>>128579017
:/

>>128578794
poot tis

>>128579395
fire axe RETARD
give raffles

What's the best Spy shirt cosmetic to go with the Deep Cover Operator? I wanna look as much like Snake as possible.

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>>128579419
>>128579419
wrong

>>128579526
you're also wrong just so you know

>>128579579
zep green rouges col rouge
ive got one if you want to buy it

>>128579593
vita-saw
otherwise you're putting spaces in because im pretty sure ubersaw is one word

>>128579593
>>128578390

>>128577962
>spy, engineer, demo, sniper, and soldier
Jesus fuck what were they having a gay orgy when recording it?

>>128579593
bone saw

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>>128579679
youre wrong
one more try

>>128579684
sorry bb

>>128579964
oh

>>128579964
medi gun

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>>128565053
Fuck, the seventh frame in that gif actually gave me a bit of a feel.

Spy trying to make a genuine connection with Scout, his now stepson and being rebuffed time and again. Christ, looking at the romance lessons now from this perspective it looks like he's being almost fatherly in his own way.

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>>128580020
you killed the stick man
are you happy

>>128575098
>>128575098
>>128575098
>>128575098
>>128575098
someone pls respond

>>128580227
x.x

>>128580312
captions/subtitles

Thoughts on the Direct Hit?

>>128580840
o'er power

thoughts on me

*thinks about you*

>>128580840
entertaining weapon

>>128580840
use it against pubbies who are raging in chat

makes them twice as mad with half the effort

>>128581806
I found it best to use against people with pockets. Or at least get the med so the other guy can be picked off.

It just makes me wish I had people to play with that were competent and not just retards sitting afk in spawn.

*thinks about my tf2gfu*

>>128582348
this desu, I always seem to eat the med and get the guy down to red health, and then they spam binds/taunt. I know it shouldnt bother me but I get a bit salty

>>128582612
Yeah, I get a little miffed when I can't take people out when they have a pocket or something, or when there people not really helping towards the goal.

Though really, most of it lately has been the tough break servers. Might be one reason behind it. Old people like the old maps, new people want the new maps.

who here likes sawmill

>Here's the gameplay of the most recent version of TF2 MM, 6v6 + interp fixed, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKnXpEqZdbg

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>>128562167

>>128583636
I love b4nny but his voice is so grating.

>>128583591
Only if there are no snipers abusing the shitty spawn house placement

>>128577537
>He doesn't like the kazotzky kick

does he like me

>>128584296
He only likes guys who don't spam their gayness into the thread

>>128576518
Because after I bought the Zoomin Broom I unbound all of the rest of my taunt by name taunts. One broom to rule them all, and in the darkness taunt them.

Fastest moving taunt, moves at 200 hmus (heavy walks at ~230 iirc), next closes is the single class boxtrot, followed by conga and Kazotsky at 50 hmu.

I should probably look into mannaerobics, but it looked like another 50 hmu.

>>128584452
>He only likes guys

oh

>>128583591
h*ck yes!

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I havent seen a combat medic in what seems like months. I used to see them all the time.

What happened?

>>128584453
what the fuck dude
why does the speed matter

>>128576518
Because you don't raffu enough

>>128584740
No idea.

With all the new shit out it just really isn't a viable strategy, even less so than it used to be.

That and most medics tend to roll with the Crossbow these days, because once you get good with it it's really fucking nice to heal your teammates from across the map/kill some asshole who thought he could take you one because you were a medic.

>>128565272
Sticky launcher is basically a straight upgrade to the default launcher. Unless you can actually aim, in which case you should be using the loch n load anyway.

Dota
>5v5
>less per character cosmetics than TF2
>less physics reliant

CSGO
>only skins
>all weapons are hitscan

TF2
>16v16
>four cosmetics per class
>paints
>unusual effects
>jigglebones
>sprays
>projectiles

>>128585090
if you could actually aim, why use loch n load over stock when you can potentially do more damage with stock

>>128585090
>Unless you can actually aim, in which case you should be using the loch n load anyway.
lol

>>128585178
what is your point

>>128585741
tf2 is bloatware

>>128585782
oki doki

>>128585782
>I don't actually know anything about coding, much less making a game from scratch but im still going to use buzzwords /g/ taught me!

>>128586009
who are you quoting lol

I bet tf2g nerds are gonna stack matchmaking with their comp friends and ruin it for everyone else.

>>128587131
Yeah fuck those nerds

>>128587131
youre joking right

If you are from a third world country (any country in South/Central America or Africa) please do not buy the matchmaking pass we don't want you laggy people in our servers.

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>>128587131
>friends

>>128587713
im sorry for your loss

>>128587131
they'll be placed in the highest rank after like 10 games and then they'll be the ones getting stomped
do you now know how ranked matchmaking works

>>128583636
viewmodels no longer forced on??

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>Point Hat Man tries to demoknight
>Using tide turner
>WHY CAN'T I GET EYELANDER CRITS?

Do people really just slap on items without reading what they do?

How can pyro get fixed to be more rewarding for good combos instead just w+m1 to kill several people? The balance between effort and reward seem plain bad

>>128588962
remove the flaregun, give him faster movespeed, and buff the shotgun to do like 10 more damage

What is the best spy loadout?
Im thinking of maining spy

>>128588962
>combos require effort

>>128589503
There are only two viable playstyles: One with a Dead Ringer, and one with stock Invisiwatch. Have fun.

>>128589503
>Im thinking of maining spy
i would recommend not doing that

http://steamcommunity.com/id/trumplightningpoke/inventory/
search "in memory of"

jack also made his furry buttbuddy ragequit it was great

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>>128584740
Because it's literally a playstyle for useless faggots who don't actually do the job of the medic which is to be the force multiplier of the team.
By all means be tasty as fuck with an ubersaw but the execution of the idea is stupid. Above all your objective should be to survive, not chase kills.

>>128589654
A f2p guy that just picked up the game would not get the idea to do one instead running around to do a flank with backburner

>>128588962
Remove all of the crit combo shit and make the guns more rewarding that actually take skill like the shotgun. Bascially buff the shotgun and make it his main weapon.

Make the flamethrower a short burst of damage on short range and then a cooldown so people can't just w+m1 but have to time it properly. Like a thing that you can use to ambush people with and then it has to regenerate.

>>128590086
youre a fag dude

>>128590107
what's your point? that pyro mechanics are not intuitive? pretty much all of the classes have mechanics that are not obvious.

>flanking properly is easier and less useful than degreaser combo spam

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>>128588962
Add "thrower" weapons that are more support based?

>Ice thrower that slows enemies instead of doing a DoT.
>Fuel thrower that belches out gasoline that soaks players and sticks to surfaces but has to be ignited with a flaregun.
>Acid thrower that can spew out a stream or for it's alternate fire chucks out a big glob of it that travels in an arc and explodes.

They could do a lot with the class but they don't really care to be honest. Pic related is sadly about the height of pyro play we are going to see.

i l o v e my tf2gfu

>>128590530
absolutely disgusting post my friend

>>128590530
retarded shit a 6 year old came up with::the post

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>>128590747
>>128590997
So you think that combos are more interesting than throwers that work in fundamentally different ways is more fun?

The face of wombo combo.
>Muh airblast
>Muh Crits
>No real variety in gameplay like every other class has.

All non-stock melee weapons now have a -100% damage penalty.

What melee weapons do you use on each class?

>>128590718
me too

>pyro tries to do flare combo but can't even set target on fire

>>128591336
yeah dude definitely wasnt just making fun of -ice thrower- and ~acid thrower~

my tf2gfu says they like shy boys but they keep talking to non shy boys
mfw they lie

How do I get back normal ping numbers instead of the stupid green bars?

>>128591336
wasnt just making fun of your throwable shit that makes you run slower, nope that sounds very fun for both teams

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tfw hate playing pyro because the flamethrower is so busted
>flame particles always going off in some other direction
>airblast/reflection is shit and unfulfilling
>generally feel useless when I could be playing anything else

>>128591114
I start to think the pubs with actual good people are hidden somewhere like a secret club between the 1000 valve servers

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Blu guy was on my team. Why do people who are upset make it clear that they are upset? Why don't they just refrain from using the chat?
I dominated the red dude and blu guy was riding my dick and saying "get fucked red guy" whenever I got a kill on him.

>>128591440
>Scout
Basher. It still damages yourself, right?
>Soldier
Both Escape Plan and Disciplinary Action will still be used.
>Pyro
None of Pyro's common melees are for hitting, let's be honest. Homewrecker, Backscratcher, and Powerjack will still be used.
>Demoman
Stock.
>Heavy
GRU
>Engineer
Stock, maybe Gunslinger
>Medic
Amputator. Ubersaw is good, but if you can't leech Uber AND deal damage at the same time when your dumbass pocket can't see the Scout running around behind him, you're fucked. Might as well be able to heal yourself.
>Sniper
Stock
>Spy
Stock

>>128591532
In a world of memes, everything is possible

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>>128591532
Yes because a cryo or chemical weapon it's so fucking silly and against the artistic style of a game that has pew pew laserbeems like the CAPPER, Cow Mangler and Pomson. I apologise profusely for being so fucking stupid.

>>128591924
it doesnt help that your ideas are just bad

not all of us can be idea guys

>>128591664
Have you never come across the Natascha that has significantly more range and close range damage? That gun does it by MAGIC too.

>>128591924
have you graduated third grade
do you write all your posts in crayon dude
your reaction images are stupid and your posts are godawful on a lot of levels

>>128592071
What did he mean by this

>>128591791
>Why do people who are upset make it clear that they are upset?

Dude, never touch a moba then, most people in tf2 are pretty chill, since there is no ladder where people might downgrade "because my team sucks" and a loss becomes a personal insult

>>128592165
He means there is already a gun that slows people when it hits them, the Natascha minigun.
Do you even play the game?

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>there are people who think adding more slows to the game is a good idea

>>128592118
the image is from /fit/ there's a guy that makes really good comics

>>128592308
Ok, and is he implying that that is a fun weapon to fight against and should definitely be in the game? Do you even have any reading comprehension?

>>128592448
i dont know about the sources but he literally just posts the same 5 completely unrelated pictures with every dumb ass comment he makes
like i wasnt even giving him advice i was doing the OPPOSITE of that

>>128592494
Meh, if it did reduced damage and had no DoT.
Perhaps also if the debuff meant you took less melee damage while slowed then I suppose it could work.
Not a great idea but to play devil's advocate here the pyro has next to nil weapons that meaningfully change the playstyle of the class unlike every single other one.

i dont feel like doing anything

>>128591695
>pyro is a poorly designed class
in other news, water is wet

>>128592734
thats pretty untrue
you play differently with all the flamethrowers, even backburner
as opposed to classes like scout heavy or sniper whos primaries all function in pretty much the same way

>>128593124
>you play differently with all the flamethrowers, even backburner
pyro main go AWAY

>>128593219
not me man!
im just a dude with a brain! sorry!

>>128592734
Slow effects don't belong in a shooter, especially something spammable. explosives, and pushback from weapons are as far as you can go when it comes to the enemy affecting your movement, and even that can be obnoxious.
At least with those things, the enemy has to hit a good shot on you, and you can recover very easily.

Pyro is fine the way he is and the way he's intended to be played. It's built as a retard class for newcomers to the game. It's the first class I picked up when I was a 10 hour retard and it was fun as hell because I could actually get kills with it. He's easy to aim with, has low depth, and lets you learn other aspects of the game, like map awareness and the capabilities of the other classes. However, as I got better at the game, you understand that there's a distinct difference in what is "rewarding" as you progressively improve your aim and start to control more aspects of the game. For most people interested in an FPS game, they might realize the flamethrower has very low depth to it, as it's easy to aim and you can't even use it unless you're very close range. It does exactly what it intended, it's the noob class. Every class based class needs it for new players to be a part of the experience.

>>128593513
Getting airblasted during an uber might be one of the worst feels in this game

>>128593513
You just put in words what I've always thought about pyro

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>>128590530
How about some less retarded ideas then kid?

Fumigator that makes you DoT heavy and able to do area denial, ideal for a more support based style of play.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=524459309&searchtext=

>>128593801
>You just put in words what all of tf2g has always thought about pyro

>>128593808
>how about more less retarded ideas

>le cloud of gas that you cant walk through

ERIC

SIMPLY ERIC SMITH

>>128593808
You have to consider the fact that you could place this at a chokepoint or an objective.

there are so many fucking items in this game stop trying to make ideas for new ones and fix the ones that suck/aren't fun to play against/plain overpowered

>>128594228
>god just stop thinking, pull out a gun, and pull the trigger.

>>128594312
whats that supposed to mean

>>128594138
It only last four seconds and I do not imagine would do hellish damage, plus the pyro has to get close to keep it there.

>>128593959
>Can't walk through.
Cleared instantly with an airblast perhaps?

Not sure why're you seem to think it would be the end of the world, it'd get a direct damage nerf for sure to compensate for the higher DoT.

>>128594312
What did he mean by this?

>>128594485
Count out 4 seconds out loud

It's a long fucking time in a shooting game.

>>128592830
water is technically not wet

>>128594568
Again, this mechanic is already in place.
This is like saying the demoman should not get stickies because they "Could be placed at a chokepoint or capture point" They last a lot longer and do a hell of a lot more damage than that weapon. Hell the pyro could use a weapon better suited to defence.

>>128594463
That you're a stockfag.
>UGH just pick stock and fight already.

>>128594228
Well that's a problem for the pyro since most of his alternate weapons have retarded concepts behind them.
>Backburner crits.
>Degreaser combos.
>Phlog MMMPH meter.
They are all nigh unfixable without a complete overhaul because the ideas behind them are bad.

>>128594795
If every class in this game had some sort of way to hold a choke very consistently, this game would be fucking terrible. Also, stickies need reloading, can be defused, and straight up jumped over. A big ass cloud can not be, save for the jumped over part for soldiers, and never has to reload because flamethrowers don't do that.

>>128595006
>he still complains about the phlog

>>128594831
youre right you seem to be a lot smarter than me so lets just keep adding more weapons with retarded stats

>>128593808
hitting a person covered in smoke will detonate it and make them fly into the air, the more smoke thats on them the higher they fly, players get launched in the direction they were moving and can air strafe

or

hitting enemies with the smoke status will make them explosively ignite and light people around them on fire, smoke will do 1 damage per tick and can be removed with airblast jarate and all that, it also stays on people so you can tag them multiple times to explode them a bunch

>>128595046
Stickies can also be hidden in blind spots that you'll never see them in until it's too late, you cannot do that with a cloud of green gas.

Think of it this way, they are both area denial but work in different ways.
The stickies can do huge amounts of damage but are harder to see giving them less of a visual deterrant quality.

The fumigator would be a mostly psychological weapon because any half decent soldier/demo/heavy would be able to walk straight through the gas, tank the DoT and kill the pyro. Weaker classes or low health players would be put off by the idea of taking the damage but in reality it wouldn't straight up kill many people.

>>128593808
fuck, I really think this whole set looks really good

>>128584927
I don't have the shitty authenticator so everyone would be waiting around for three days every time I raffle something

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>>128594831

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Contribution on the subject of good killcams

>>128595487
Well that's just it, you explained the flaw in your weapons idea already. You either make it so shit that it doesn't kill anyone and just kind of sits there slightly annoying people (why not just play demo if you are so adamant and making the comparison?) OR you can make it so good that it's just the gayest thing to fight against ever.

>there are people in this very thread who think that airblast is more useful than instant full heal and crits

wew lads didnt know youre such complete retards

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>>128595608
have this

how do you get rid of the "who is not ready" notification when a tf2center lobby fills

or at least lower the volume because shit it is loud

>>128595695
Yes, I am sorry it is just impossible to balance such a weapon let us never speak of it again.
Christ all you have to do is up the DoT a bit and lower the direct damage a bit and presto a defensive weapon. It's not hard m8, hell I'd even take it if it had no direct damage at all and instead applied stacks of poisoning to a target that increased the damage of each tick.

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>>128595608

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Proper way to fix the pyro: Add a mandatory class limit of 0 for him on every server.

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>>128595881

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Proper way to fix the pyro: play a gamemode where he is not viable

alternatively git gud

>>128595946
There is no way to make that weapon fun to play against. Sorry. It's not a balancing issue, it's simply that the idea is shitty. If you die to a cloud of gas someone left 4 seconds ago, then that's a real shit way to die. but if it's such negligible damage, that it doesn't kill you, then there's no point and only serves to annoy. You might say "oh but what if you make it so it puts you at low health". Same as dying to it, just absolutely not fun to play against, supports a braindead playstyle. At least a demo has to detonate his stickies, has to be aware of his surroundings. The amount of times I've just walked over a trap in a pub and thought "he's not gonna det" is in the thousands, and I've probably died to a trap maybe 10 times in pubs.

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>>128595608

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>>128596291

should i sleep
what do you think

>>128595946
lets never speak of it again because its just fanfiction dude
a weapon like that is not int he game, its not gonna ever be in the game, no one wants it in the game but you
youre actually just writing sonic OCs except your making pyro weapons instead of blue mongooses or whatever, and i dont know which is more pathetic

yeah
im going to sleep too
lets pretend to sleep together ;3c

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>>128596471
nice dude

i want to sl**p together with my tf2gfu

slaap my ass

stay safe /tf2g/

>>128596605
what

you could get 4 of any class together and it would shitstomp the fuck out of enemy team

i wanna be in the same bed with my tf2gfu after a long day of pubbing

>>128596471
Not to even mention that tf2 does not need more defensive strategies and classes. This game is so defense heavy already, give the attacking teams some love.

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>>128596605
>Implying that the Scout isn't the class that goes against this.

That nigga has an unlock for every situation

>>128596898
every class does for nearly every situation, it's just they can't have them all, all the time