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/gbfg/ - Granblue Fantasy General #7

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Daughteru edition.

>This Month (January) Events Schedule
http://pastebin.com/Jd7n35AB (embed)

>[Surprise Gacha and Star Gacha Event are LIVE]
Ongoing and ends on 1/15 18:59 in JST

>Please, READ THE FAQ - it will answer most of your questions if you are new or learning
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DQh3qpWhNOJmt4vttaV-J4nSwpceFgUup67fRzVwqJE/edit

>Mega Pastebin
https://pastelink.net/granblue

>Where can I find pictures of the cute girls so I know who my waifu is?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AMaVEsvS5SmUvIhQA47ATPccJXLP1PfUUIBcWUMU0aw/edit?pli=1#gid=2034008196

>Re-rolling Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yUxZWnpEhW7NU1wl2Q99znx7CJN-AmS9Je7Fz6eXPcw/edit?pref=2&pli=1

>SR Tier list
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16Vxzjzq-Ru6RgSirfBcTheWlrGvLFuNB_GIDA_9Gewo/edit?pref=2&pli=1

>Who do I Start Dash/Surprise ticket?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ygJ1YvgBVCPsuz02XH-6CkqA5lTXVFrwnlnomoa-Db0/edit#gid=1028887621

>Game Download
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.mbga.a12016007.lite

iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/guranburufantaji/id852882903

Chrome App:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/グランブルーファンタジーchromeapps版/eablgejicbklomgaiclcolfilbkckngf?hl=ja

Mobile/Browser:
http://www.mbga.jp/_game_intro?game_id=12016007

>Japanese Wiki
http://gbf-wiki.com/
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best daughteru
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>Esports-ing Earth
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>>128302190
>You will never be as alpha as Siete
Why live
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Shisho-
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Threadly reminder that beatrix is used goods
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>Not Yoda edition after he was just the hot topic
Fuck off waifufags, this is an esports only thread
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>post your pool and team
>no you stole it from japan
Well it has been nice /gbfg/ but we /ssg/ now.
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>>128302178
>Daughteru
Thead approved.
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>>128301890
Nice generic esports meta team.
Really shows that every character is viable.
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>>128302335
>>128302381
Wife
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>>128302452
Thank the guy reposting nip gets all the time
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Remember a better waifu is one you took time to raise.
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>>128302452
If you want us to believe you then show the thread in the background :^)
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>>128302719
I'm not the anon you're referring to. Just pointing out that this is literally /ssg/ behaviors.
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Guild info copypasted from last thread with the newest guild added.
Have fun with it


Lumiere (White star)
Leader: Mikanrin
Oldest guild filled mostly with people that have played since the english annoucement, has qualified for guild wars twice.

Lumiere (Black star)
Leader: Seblel
Second guild not too behind the first one, needs a small push and will definitely qualify next time.

Atelier
Leader: Mimorin
Third guild made of mostly fresh people that are getting stronger.

Little girls (In moonrunes)
Leader: Eureka
Fourth guild in the same situation as the above one.

Falz flag
Leader: Gudako
Newest guild with tons of free spots for people


If you're interested in joining any of these guilds, drop by in the granblue IRC at #lumiere2 for more information and guild coordination.

IRC link:
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/#lumiere2
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I have charlotte and Lancelot. Should I bother getting silva? Or use the next suprise tix for altair. I also have jeanne btw that I use as support on water team.
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>>128303017
Is that euro guild not a part of /gbfg/? I remember it being advertised before.
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>>128303017
>Gudako
Is this the guy who got my Vampy account or Naru account?
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>>128303017
You shouldn't delete the EU guild info
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Friendly reminder that if you didn't surprise ticket a fire esports character you're the reason we're going to lose GW.
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>>128303159
>>128303268
I think the guildmaster isnt around anymore so I replaced it with the new guild.

If anyone needs it, its here

Valour
Leader: Folgorn
Fifth guild created by a veteran player for himself but opening it to EU players that wish to join. Both assault times are for people on EU timezones while the above four have one NA and one EU assault time.
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>>128303145
It's not a water team if you don't have Altair.
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>>128303310
where did they say it would be a wind event?
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>>128303017
>Falz flag
>tfw I can't pronounce this without saying falz fag
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>>128303017
Because you can't search using ID name
http://pastebin.com/Sc4yKCZf
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How do I quit a guild?
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>>128304541
bottom left button then the third one.
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>>128303145
Silva for waifu + esports
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>>128304870
>gacha gods will never give you esports qts
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>>128304870
>esports
Literal shit tier in HL
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>>128305243
It's a good thing I still have over 30 more ranks to go before I can even join HL raids.
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>>128305191
>6 year old
>Already has tits
>Already craving the D
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>>128305489
Doraf are literally perfect.
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can the autistic losers who look up porn all day stick to your IRC containment channel

thanks
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>>128305614
Only if the esportsfags go away too
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>>128305489
>craving the D
Nice headcanon m8, also daughterus are not for lewd.
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>Not joining a superior nip guild
Peasants, all of you
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>>128305614
I'd rather the autistic losers stay here where they belong. Neurotypicals like you would fit right in a normal social environment like an IRC channel.
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Yaia is pretty much esport, team-wide 5% atk and 10% def yo.
>but SR
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>>128303317
Thanks, but do you have any more info about getting in touch with Folgorn? An ID or anything else?
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>>128305614
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>>128305792
K, bye
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>>128305614
i look at hentai all day and im not in IRC

you wanna start something, nerd?
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>>128304870
Why not just use Yoda for the same amount?
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>>128305910
stop
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>>128305792
I did and I got kicked.
I wasn't inactive and participated in GW so I think the leader kicked me because he was just cleaning out and I left my main team on my scrub team.
Or maybe he was onto me being a baka gaijin but I will never know the real reason because I literally did nothing wrong.
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Sorn is the cutest Guild wars

Everyone else go home
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>>128306229
You misspelled Nio.
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>>128306063
>kicking someone out because they don't have a full team of esport characters at all times
Absolutely Hitler
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>>128306229
>Sorn
This meme needs to stop
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>>128306229
I'd go to Sarasa's home if you know what I mean.
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>>128306063
Maybe you were too low leveled
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I'm a Virasexual.
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>>128306590
And vira only has eyes for her Onee-sama

She'll cut your dick if you get between her and onee-sama
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>>128306516
I checked out of salt if that was the reason but I was nowhere near the lowest rank.
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>>128306590
me too
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>>128306653
Not between them, inside Vira while she plays with Kat.
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>>128306770
>Implying she'd let you near her

You would be dead before trying anything
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Are there any requirements needed to be met to apply to join a guild?
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Is Albert cute? What's his story?
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>>128306732
Howaitto piggu go hoomu
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>>128306229
Who?
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WHO?
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>>128306989
Everyone cute
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>>128306989
Percy
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>>128306989
Birdman
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>>128306862
The only requirement is that you play regularly for most of the guilds.

Lumi1 has a minimum rank since it was the first guild and has a lot of people in the 80-100 range.
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Are there any good water summon I can manage to get in the game free? I want to build my water starter team.
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>>128307376
You just missed them. There were Cocytus for last month's celestials and midgets on a bike for new year event.
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How to download? It say the app is incompatible.
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>>128307376
You missed the midget event by about a week. Has a 50% water summon. Next best would be Leviathon summon, which you want to get 4 of for your magna pool. Other than that just hope for another event with a water summon or start rolling gems in the gacha during summon time up, but I'd not recommend that unless you're desperate.
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>>128307528
Read the OP.
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>>128307504
>>128307534
fuck... oh well. will cocytus come back? Is it like the event right now with ifrit and colow?
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>>128307597
I did, that is why I asked.
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>>128307376
You just missed one. Last event few days ago had good water summon freebies.
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>>128307734
Hopefully next month
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>>128306276
Why isn't she more popular
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>>128307841
Her body proportions are so weird
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>>128307028
>>128307059
>>128307039
Which one do I listen to
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>>128307841
Midget
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>>128307841
People have shit taste and there is no saving them.
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>>128303310
Finally, I can be fucking useful
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>>128307952
What element are you
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>>128307952
None. Post your box and we'll see who is best for you. Otherwise, pick the cutest girl.
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>>128308038
>>128308075
Dark. Still have my start dash available, have Vira right now as my SSR
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>>128308156
You could get Vampy with your start dash, since evey dark team wants a Vampy.
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>>128307952
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>>128308156
Standard practice is for you to get Vampi first, and then Naru, since they're the staples of every dark team.
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>>128308156
Naru or Vampy
You could get both from both tickets but that might be a little too much since dark is the hardest to build up unless you have great magna luck.
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>>128308327
>picked vampy
>now all I see is how dark picks are bad
what can save me
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pray to roll Bahamut
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>>128308570
Luck
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>all the chevalier raids I want to join are at 5% when showing up

I just want to go to work instead of sniping for leeches.
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>>128308272
>they're the staples of every dark team.
lebearfaec.jpg
who needs naru when you have the new esports dark character that completely invalidates doraf teams?
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>>128308843
twitter yo
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>>128308570
Grind magnas and hope for ATK drops.
Hope to roll baha and get plenty of supp bahas

My dark pool would still be so garbo without all these cerb daggers and vampy dupes to fill it out and that's after I spammed Celeste like a mad man on half bp & host every day.
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>>128308570
If you just started, you missed Cerberus event that gives SSR dark weapons with attack up. Other than that, well, hope Celeste becomes good girl for you.
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>>128308867
Who to follow?
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>>128309189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y0TBiqDmYk
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Why is everyone dark?
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>>128308867
Goodbye gryphons
I wish I knew this sooner.
>>128309189
救援依頼
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>>128309279
Girl element
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>>128309279
Because their esports is literally all cute girls as well as having the benefit of never being resisted so they make for a great main team if you can get past the shit early game.
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>>128309368
>bahamut
>cute girl
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>>128309249
>call people out on twitter
That's top salty.
>>128309290
Thanks for the moonrunes.
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what does slow do? i figured it was like gravity which removed ougi gems
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>>128309701
Slow removes one, gravity adds one.
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Does anyone have the HL tier list? Forgot to save it last time.
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>>128310132
There should be on in the pastebin.
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>>128308570
>only have Lady Grey and Vira
What can save me?
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>>128310321
great onee-san team
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>>128310321
Naruto
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>>128310321
Cute girls
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I need mats to limit break Altair/Silva (beyond lv40), however I'm only rank 21 and am thus incapable of entering the extreme dungeons to farm them. Is it possible to obtain these mats elsewhere at or around my current rank?
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So what's the install/download size of the game? Couldn't find it in the FAQ.
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>>128310801
49.3mb, or at least that's the size of the APK I downloaded.
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>>128310801
on pc? like 2mb
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>>128310464
puffy vulva
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>>128310783
Farm the tier 1 material in these low level daily dungeons, then exchange them for higher tier ones in Seirokarte's shop.
Will take a while before you can lb them but you have to deal with that at low rank.
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This is my current auto dark pool. I have 4 cerb daggers from her event, should I fuse them together or use them separately?
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>>128311850
With a pool like that it would be best to use them on their own, get them all to SL3 or so and work on LBing one as you replace them with other things.
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Got a question on bahamut dagger. Is the passive att 30% boost only attainable on ssrs10? I've got the sr at lvl1 for now, so does this mean it doesn't have any passive skill?
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>>128311914
It gives a 20% boost at lvl 1
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>>128311850
Use the damage calculator so you actually know what's mathematically best
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>>128311974
since you can only pick one element is it just for knowing MCs damage?
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>>128304870
>tfw I'm forced to go with Altair and Lan-chan when water has these esport qts
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>>128311967
the srs1 gives 20% attup? or your referring to ssrs1
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someone host a griffin
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>>128312165
why
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>>128312036
Your team should only be one element
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>>128312089
SR and SSR have the same skill, you need to max skill it before you can turn it into SSR which only gives more base atk
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>>128312202
I need their beaks
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>>128312203
not all of us dump $600 on the game
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I guess Lady Grey would be the best pick for me to complete the dark team or is there any other character that would significantly buff an element? Guys need not apply.
Also kind of torn whether I should get axe, sword or dagger first. Dark is my main element and axe would be great for Naru/Vampy but useless for any other teams and sword doesn't give as much damage, dagger would benefit all my other teams.
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>>128308238
>This year (correct this line if I'm wrong)
>Don't think with your head!!
>Please think with...
>Your dick!
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>>128312280
Dagger first always, human biased etc.
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>>128312406
>toshiaki
Isn't that anonymous of futaba
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>>128312253
You don't need to.
On element SRs are normally more useful than off element SSRs besides a handful of supports who you don't pick for their own damage anyway.
Might as well just go full grande and use your best SSRs if your complaining about not being able to fill a team with on element units.
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>>128312520
Isn't that Nanashi? 名無し?
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>>128312635
toshiaki is 2chan and nanashi is 2ch i think
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>>128312635
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>>128312724
>>128312754
Ah, well in that case making the first bubble "Anon" would be the best option. The image would also be useful outside of this thread too.
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>>128312628
well every gacha(gems) i've been able to do just gives me rares. only ssr i have is because i got the account from some anon
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Yuel lb confirmed
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Is there a way to play the fate episodes a second time? I can't find them in the notes section.
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From radio,
New lb SSR: Yuel
Next GW: Lina, Gauri and Naga appears as we all know.
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>>128313096
have they mentioned the element yet.
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what does new lb ssr mean? a SR upgraded to ssr? or someone who gets 5 stars
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>>128313143
dark boss
>>128313216
Fire SSR Yuel gets 5*
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>>128313216
Yuel is a SSR, you can figure the rest.
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>>128313216
Limit break, so breaking the level limit. Basically an upgrade.
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>>128313053
Second tab in Lyria notes, 3rd tab, click a character, scroll down to the episode list.
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>>128313053

They should be under the appropriate character's section.
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>>128313268
Domo alligator gozaimasu
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inb4 Yuel get's upgraded to have all of Anira's utility.
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How difficult is the Siete fight? Will I have to build a fire pool for him? I can take most extreme magnas down to 3/4 HP with my light team if debuffs land, and 1/2 HP if not. Are you able to elixir during the fight?
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Can you actually get an SSR from the JDA tickets? Out of all the re-rolls I've yet to see anything other than a rare and not doing it would save a lot of time.
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>>128313605
Yes, you can.
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>>128313605
Yes.
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>>128313590
You can use one elixir.
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Here's hoping Yuel becomes esports.
She was my first pull and I stuck with her
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GW playable event chars: Lina and Naga, no Gauri (guess he's portrait only)
GW event weapon is the sword of light, hopefully a Light Unknown ATK weapon.
Actually the element of GW is not mentioned but every nip is expecting it's dark, so whatever.
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>>128313621
>>128313640
Alright then. Thanks.
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if have no guild or esports guild am i fucked for all these gw events?
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>>128313672
How are we gonna get the weapon anyway? trade for it?
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>>128313712
Then go find one right now.
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>>128313737
Just like any GW: obtained with points and gold badges from VH/EX bosses. Will probably be a drop from the boss as well.
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>>128313672
Please, anything but a dark enemy for GW. If it's dark that will be really fucking annoying.
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>>128313737
It'd be like 3 from rewards plus drop or <10k rank to fully lb.
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>>128313672
Oh good, means I can murder things with my earth team in peace if it's dark.
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>>128313748
if all the vg ones weren't full or maybe they increase size to not be fucking 30 maybe i could
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>>128313837
What, is the Falz guild full already
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>>128313871
>joining meme guild
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>>128313837
It's 30 for a reason.
Just join a random fucking nip guild anyway nerd
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>>128313803
We already got a Light, Wind and Water GW boss for this current GW rotation.
Considering slayers, it should be a Dark boss then.
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>>128313871
26/27 right now
They have to burn some rupees for extension to 30.
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>>128313943
You already forgot halloween GW?
But I don't think they care about GW element rotation anyway.
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How do you search for guilds by ID?
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Good thing my light team is pretty decent.
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>>128314121
Search up the friend id and scroll down to the guild.
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>>128314185
My light team is my best team
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do you play multiple accounts?
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>>128314512
No, too lazy.
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>>128314026
No, Halloween was Dark from the previous rotation. Dark was the last element from the previous rotation but they replaced it with Wind (which was the first element of the current rotation) so to match Dark with halloween.
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>use 90gc roll every day for last 2 weeks
>nothing higher than a rare
why bother
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>>128314654
You don't buy gachas but dreams.
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>>128314654
Luck is a skill.
Just git gud.
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What are these used for? mlb?

also, how do you summon qts like Dark angel?
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Who light here?
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>>128314785
Useless, unless you have that summon
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How do you get SR Amira?
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so yuel gets 5* lb
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How do I beat Amira's 5* fate episode?
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>>128315029
BD code.
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>>128315102
Become stronger
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So when is exactly Yuel getting the new fate episode to unlock her 5*?
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>SR weapon, limit breaked with 1300+ ATK
>ougi deals 3 hits. shit damage

>SSR gacha weapon, 1200+ ATK
>ougi deals several hits, amazing damage

Does the weapon damage matter, or it is the same as long as you get it in your other slots aside from main equipped?
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>>128315104
So it's impossible huh ;_;
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Why is it do hard to join leviathan raids? Nobody seems to be making them either...
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You people should seriously make a user spreadsheet with ID and stuff, just look at FGO.
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>>128315238
Main weapon slot only effects ougi & element. You don't get any bonus damage if it's your main weapon, it's just dependent on your entire pool if that's what you're asking.
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>>128315315
For what purpose
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>>128315315
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kxg1vNwWqLzIkxlg2bW847G3r_-Joa5TuQJSMQQbCP8/edit#gid=1381116607
like that?
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>>128315346
Friend's summons
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>>128315341
Cool, just as I thought, thanks.
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>>128315315
People only want to be friends with people who have good summons.
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>>128315238

The only thing that matters for the main weapon is the ougi and element. You could throw weapons anywhere in the pool and your total attack power would be the same as long they're the exact same weapons.

Since mlb-ed and higher rarity weapons have better ougi, make them main.
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>>128315238
SRs and event weapons have shit multipliers, if you want strong ougis get awakened and element changed GW weapons.
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>>128315381
I have my friendlist filled with nip overlords :^)
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>>128315371
Except that one is locked so what's the point.
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>>128315519
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1kR5R7NHErV4rVhdYvdIuk6PvUZwRVlsKUFzPJebcAC8/viewform
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>>128315571
>/mbgg/
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What's the gold/yellow number that pops up in the top left of the screen during battle? A bit below the boss portrait
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Here is the compiled list of GW elements thus far:

June 2014: Dark 1
July 2014: Fire 1
August 2014: Wind 1
September 2014: Earth 1
October 2014: HALLOWEEN
November 2014: Water 1
December 2014: Light 1

January 2015: Dark 2
February 2015: /
March 2015: Fire 2
April 2015: Wind 2
May 2015: Water 2
June 2015: Earth 2
July 2015: /
August 2015: Light 2
September 2015: Wind 3
October 2015: HALLOWEEN
November 2015: Light 3
December 2015: Water 3

Rotation is fucked up by more dark than it should be, but if we consider halloween GW as special events that are not included in the GW element rotation, it makes sense.

So for the current rotation, whats missing: Dark, Fire, Earth. Considering Gourry's sword is also a drop/reward, chances the boss is dark are very very high.
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Bahamut weapons are the very definition of racism. #NonHumanLivesMatter
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>>128315657
Fire when
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>>128314512
For co-op farming and that's about it.
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>>128315863
Is there a way to run 2 apps on one PC or do you just play one in chrome?
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>>128315927
Use incognito mode or install additional chrome or other browsers.
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>>128315927
I play both in Chrome with one in incognito.
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newfag here. Is it ok if I sell 'all' these items? Are they valuable for anything besides buying guild items?
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>>128316145
Top 3 are just for selling. The rest are used for bulk item exchange I think?
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>>128316145
Sell all the copper and silver coins, save a couple gold coins, save one or two of the other stuff, save all the pinwheels.
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Which of these would be the best to start as?

Vira+Lenna
or
Caglio+Lily
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>>128316249
Your favorite + your favorite
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I just began this game, let me see if I got this right:


>1. Progress through story/free quests
Got a tip that I should stop after the 8th island and wait for 1/2 AP event

>2. Gather and level weapons/summon/PT and limit break them with mats.
Currently just limit breaking SR weapons from magna bosses.

>3. Once strong enough, proceed with magnas, gather Magna summons/weapons
If they drop that is.

>4. Get GW weapons
NEVER EVER F2P FOREVER
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>>128316180
Fuck I sold all the pinwheels, what they do?
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>>128316702
They're a cheaper way to get coop items.
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>>128316627
>NEVER EVER F2P FOREVER
Do you know what a GW weapon is?
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>>128316627
>NEVER EVER F2P FOREVER
Well you are one dumb idiot, everything else is right
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>>128316145
Sell everything.
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>>128316820
Guild wars weapons no?
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>>128316925
Yes. Now what part of that requires paying?
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Socie is a ____
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>>128316702
Also if you ever plan to get this
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>>128316976
fluffy
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>>128316950
The grind :^)
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>>128316925
Yes.
Things that you get from the GW event that you don't need to spend money for or even place in the Guild War. Just pure F2P grind. Even more important that you get them being F2P.
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>>128317002
This shit is worse than the GW grind, Jesus Christ.
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>>128313871
What's that /vg/ guild name? I still haven't joined a guild.
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You need at least one alt to keep up, it's not only for elixirs, you need tons of rupees.
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F11B108A
Protochicken guys
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>>128317336
Thanks
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>tfw no 5BP Leviathan raid ever
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>>128317336
Hope you guys got something good from that.
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>>128317750
There was one up literally 1 minute ago
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>>128317336
TY!
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>>128317783
What's considered good from bahamut beside horn?
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>>128317786
Yeh I know I entered it and it was fucking dead already as always...
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>>128317859
Bahamut weapons, gold certs, true anima.
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>tfw you're only done with 1/5th of the grind
Save me from this hell
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>>128317750
It's quite common actually. Plus it's easier to kill so its gone fast.
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is there any anon handing out accounts? i dont have much hope in the future of my lady grey
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>>128317002
How do you farm for the gun aside from buying it from the HL shop? Does it drop from any EX in co-op?
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>>128317750
Looking for Yggs is more suffering.
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>>128318079
Is there a way to make the dumb pop-up for help request to not appear and/or to speed up things so I can actually do one hit? I've been trying to join a Leviathan Magma raid for 20mins with no luck whatsoever. (I just missed the one 1min ago again as well)
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>>128318141
It drops from EX
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>>128318126
Yeah, there's actually a kind soul here handing out pretty much startdash acc. Just hang around and wait for him to post.
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Start a week and a half-ish ago. Already have Naru, so my plan of attack going forward after all this reading and lurking is:
-Get Vampy
-More magna for more dark weapons.
-I'm going to be fucked for awhile
-Cap out casino rewards
-Log into the other games

I only recently read up on co-op and I should be grinding that. Whats the run down for that? Anything special I should be aware of when joining? Am I just frantically joining anything that's open, whatever it may be?

Any other fine tuning or details I'm missing?
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>>128317750
Levis die much slower than Yggs or Tiamats.
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>>128318141
According to wiki, E1-1, 3-3, 4-2 drop the replica
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What do you buy with MP first? Animas and ticket?
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>>128318429
The stuff you need.
I blew mine on JP since I fucked up during leveling
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>>128318239
post team
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>>128318552
It's really just Naru at this point, the other two are earth that I'll be replacing with whatever dark units I can muster down the road.
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>>128318292
You kidding dude? I keep seeing those magma raids up.
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What's the deal with those 1HP/1ATK SR weapons?
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>>128318902
Rusted+bahamut horn = SR bahamut weapon
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>>128318239
Grinding coop doesn't really matter unless you can shit out a on of damage in a short time. Do your dailies tho. I would advise you to work on a different pool first, unless you get ridiculously lucky with celeste drops. I got one axe after 3 months of farming
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Farm enough to 1/2 hp the boss and open for everyone, they you have 2 red boxes with slightly higher change of getting weapons.
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First SSR drop from magma.
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>>128319101
I'm sorry
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>>128319101
My condolences.
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Congratulate me on getting 10k power guys!
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>>128319114
>>128319124
Is it shit?
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>>128319114
crit spear isn't that bad though, but of course dagger is better.
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>>128319148
>hit 10k yesterday evening
Feels pretty good man.
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>>128318865
They die within a minute.
>>
Yoda
Vira
Lenna

Any specific magna I should be focusing on?
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How do I prevent those downranks in my weapon pool? What am I doing wrong?
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>>128319278
Get to the rank they ask you to
50 for magna
80 for baha
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>>128319185
Anything with Attack passive is good.
Anything with HP passive is fodder.
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Where do these books drop from?
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>>128319430
Yeh but I only have one SSR weapon beside this one anyway.
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in my experience, if your party deal at least 10k damage per member, then v.hard is winnable but in extreme, only 1/5 of the boss hp can be cut. That do not count the mob before the boss, if there's any.

So I want to ask, what would the damage needed for extreme, atleast? do your damage increase for the higher your rank other than weapon pool?
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>>128318307
Thanks gotta keep an eye out for those quests then.
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>>128319442
Read the guide next time
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aaaaaaa
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>>128318974
Is dark that reliant on weapons compared to the others, or is it something else that makes them a bit harder to start with?
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>>128319684
dark/light item droprates are lower than 4 elements
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>>128319684
SR weapons don't have attack passive
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>>128319430
Basically Lily's weapon is shit and should be replaced when I get more SSR weapons? It has HP passive and a +atk on god and birds.
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>>128319512
Honestly, it probably depends on the bosses. Last month's Extreme Cerberus and Fenrir doesn't actually require too much, only the capacity to tank whatever the boss throw at you save for one ougi attack that you should prevent them from using at all cost.

Meanwhile Colow will nuke your whole team at 50% HP, while Ifrit will turn red and increase his ATK and double attack rate (I still have no idea about Sagittarius because I haven't touched his stage more than once since his stuff is shit), so they require a lot more damage to rush them down.
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>>128319430
Is the fire staff good?
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>finally get Cagliostro's heal

we useful now
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>getting an 7 or 8 in double up
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>>128319839
0 lb SSR weapons a re basically garbage whether it's attack or hp, but that's when you have enough weapons. Full lb SR weapons (such as hard boss drops) are much better. Just level up their skills a bit then change later.
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>>128320036
Always up.
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>do angel halo
>rank up
>do more angel halo
>don't rank up
Is it worth potting for the star angel halos?
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>>128320160
yes
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>>128320160
They are rather for grinding GW upgrade materials and angels for weapons levels.
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Any way to lock a weapon?
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>>128320041
>0 lb SSR weapons a re basically garbage
Magnas would like a word with you.
>>128320281
Weapon status screen, one of the gold buttons at the bottom of the page if there are two.
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>Two flips in Baha
>Two gold proofs
This shit needs to stop
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>>128320465
Only if greedy new players could realize full lb magna SRs are better till they have sets of 1+ lb SSRs, especially the fire ones.
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>>128320812
it better to farm H over magna then?
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>>128320993
Farm both, magna also drops SR's
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I'm tempted to use baha weapons like knuckles and bows as fodders since they've been piling up... Besides sword/axe/dagger they are ok to to as fodders right
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>>128321138
>Baha weapons
>Fodder

Nigga what
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>>128321039
Not him, but for Light/Dark one is bound to the magnas, right?
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>>128320993
SR magna weapons (like Colo axe, Levi dagger/gun, ygg fists) are easier to level up their atk up skills and full lbs for better stats than 0 lb SSR. You don't need to level up SR skills to 10, just around 5 is enough.
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After getting enough magna attack SSRs, is it better to MLB them all evenly, or MLB one first?
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>>128320812
>tfw I used a bunch of magna SRs as skill up fodder when I started when they could've filled my weapon pool
At least my main team is dark so I didn't gimp it's pool like my Water and Fire teams.
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>>128321171
just the rusted shit lol
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>>128321138
>not having a whole storage dedicated to rusted stuff
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>>128320812

If you do have non-lb attack SSRs, you might as well invest more skill fodders there because that's what you're going to be replacing everything with. With enough skill levels, they'll pass by the full lb SRs.

Of course, you could keep spending skill fodders on a few full lb SRs too, it's not like those SSRs are going to come in fast.
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>>128321179
Yes, but if you want some extra gold animas for hosting then hard is fine
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Do you still grind Casinos /gbfg/ or are you just me who only goes for the pots?
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What does "三幕効果の時" mean for Yoda's skills?
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>>128321403
I run wind so I have no choice but to.
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>>128321403
300k away from mlb Anat, after that I'll just poker 100k every day for pots+seeds+ygg animas.
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>>128321403
I want to mlb all buncles so the grind will kill me
I can't past 2kk desu
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What rank do i need to be able to use my baha weap? I'm currently 56 and it's getting debuffed.
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>>128321403
After losing for about 50 times each day I calm down and do poker while watching animes.
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>>128321403
I have 6m and all I've been grabbing recently has been Celeste anima and pots. I'll get back to doing bingo one of these days so that I can LB my buncles, but fuck it, it's depressing.
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>>128321531
Probably 80
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>>128321446
>>128321509
Why's getting MLB anat so important for wind? From what I see, most people set their MLB anats as their wind summon, so most of the time you'll be using 100% tiamat instead. Is it just for the active?
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>>128321403
I just go for the pots and animas. My wind team is my worst next to earth so I pretty much just brought one Anat to fill out my support summon slot and called it a day.
Pretty much never drop below 2 million only doing bingo one day a week for like an hour or two.
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>>128321531
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>>128321603
Because you'll be using her on every single summon lineup you have forever.
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>>128321416

The charges/stacks icon he has that's consumed every time he attacks, uses a skill or does his ougi. When there's none he hits for half and is practically made of paper.
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>>128321654
>>128321564
Is bingo so good?
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>>128321596
Fuck this stupid game.
Thanks anon.
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>>128321603
Because Tiamat's only useful once you have a pool, Anat is useful for a long time, and has a great active even once Tiamat's useful.
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>>128321603
Because you need a full magna pool before Tiamat is useful which is a long as fuck grind.
She's also a great sub summon.
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>>128321732
Well you have to be 80 to summon baha
That stat panelty means jackshit though since the skill of the baha weapon makes up for it
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>>128321704
Yes.
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>>128321704
Bingo is all-or-nothing gambling
Poker is safer choice, but good luck farming poker for her.
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>>128321657
shit. I actually crafted my baha dagger and I'm only 58 lol. Is the 20% atk up still active? or no?
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>>128321694
>>128321761
>>128321803
I see. So I already have 3 tia fists and 3 guns. I can buy two more weapons from the shop. Is it more efficient to LB them evenly, MLB 1 at a time, or does it not matter?
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>>128321403
I've started doing 100k bingo lately, gained 7m then lost 4. Kinda hurts senpai
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>>128321890
What tier is she in?
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>>128321879
>>128321890
So I build up a fall-back pool with poker to blow it all on bingo?
>>
Does anyone have the link for the granblue OST 1? I only have 2 and the arranged.
>>
>>128321904
Still is
>>
>What tier is she in?
she sucks desu
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>>128321704
yes.
Just make sure you have enough for a buffer in case of bad luck.
Personally I barely go past 10 games without a win, but i also made my first million bingo win from only having 100k and haven't touched anything else but 100k bingo since so my luck is pretty good with it.
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>>128321941
e-peen tier
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>>128321941
She's shit
Trophy waifu and nothing more
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>>128321985
When I got super bingo, I bought her instead of buying everything else in the casino. Much regrets.
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>>128322067
>>128322042
>>128321985
The jews did it on purpose just to fuck over F2P even more
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>>128322113
Honestly I would probably do the same even though I know she sucks dick.
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>>128322113

Wait what, her skill-set and support ability is pretty decent, she can't be that bad?
>>
8M CELEBRATION FUCKING WHEN!?
Seriously if they delay this we'll get one at the same time as the anniversary, and instead of giving us even mroe free shit they'll just give us some actual shit and say "this is for 9M + anniversary"
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>>128322238
Honestly I don't know, I don't play wind. She's the only wind SSR I got atm. I got her in november or something.
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>>128322238
Not worth a super bingo
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>>128322265
The free shit only keeps getting worse anyway
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>>128322265
>7M was less than a month ago

I don't believe it.
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>>128322265
Did we even reach 8m?
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>>128322436
long ago
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>>128322265
Last celebration was like a week and a half ago. They really shouldn't give us a celebration considering the game reached 8m almost purely off reroll accounts in the new year legend fest. There is no other way the game reached 8m that fast
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>>128322436
Like a week ago. It was also right around the Surprise ticket incident
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>>128322486
>>128322506
How did we reach 8M so fast? Influx of new players or reroll-fags during New years?
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>>128322346
Indeed. You can get max LB Anat, many weapon/summon LB items, the weapons max LB (including a fire SSR), and don't have to touch the casino for a very long time even though you can still buy daily pots+anima's for a long time.
She is definitely not worth all that. She's good if you get a 2nd Super Bingo.
>>
how popular is this in japan anyways? i didnt see it on mobage top 3
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>>128322493
You seem to be forgetting the english option is getting close and closer so filthy gaijins come in constantly.
Also, week and half ago we got the ticket+gems, the actual celebration was when magnafest started
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>>128322550
Imagine it being so shit like the top3
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>>128322550
It spiked to first place in Most sales during New years.
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>>128322004
You've been able to sustain with 100k bingo? I won a super bingo from the 10k, and started playing 100k since people have been saying it's sustainable. I've already lost 3 mill. I win from time to time, but there's so many people in the room with bingo that the winnings are small. Bout to switch back to 10k.
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>>128322550
very. It's mostly looming on top 10. I think it peaked somewhere on top3 when the legfes was last held.
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>>128322493
No reason for them not to since it's good publicity. Even if it's inflated it's far better for them to show off their 8 million than to just ignore it.
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>>128322550
>Idolmaster SS
>10m in 3 months

>Granblue
>just hit 8M

You tell me :^)
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>>128322741
do people reroll hardcore in idolmaster?
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>>128322669
Depends on you luck really. Few times in the past I just kept losing in 100k and have to switch back to poker everytime until I get enough to do 100k again. But just the other day I somehow managed to get 10m from 1m doing 100k and have been looming there ever since.
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You need to superbingo like once every half a year if you are exchanging SR lb items and animas.
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>>128322539
I want to believe that the xmas stream had something to do with it + holidays
>>
>>128322649
Yes, filthy gaijins come in and make 200 accounts. That's the same thing I said except the nips were also doing it. Week and a half ago magnafest was still ongoing, it's a bad idea to make "milestone" celebrations pretty much right after one another.
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At how many chips do you guys suggest one would start bingo? 200-400k?
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>>128322669
Yes.
Got myself up to like 6 million for one Anat spamming 100k.
Now like I said I just buy out the magnas and recovery items and then when I start getting close to 2 million I play for awhile to get to 3-5 million depending on how long I want to play.
I've been doing it pretty much for a month now and never made a loss. I see people posting about losing so much on bingo but for me it's just been really consistent.
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>>128322741
Well japs eat idolshit like candy and boats so no suprise
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>FeMC sage outfit

Why do they always make her so slutty.
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>>128323010
Waiting for im@s rerun
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>>128322892
I wonder if I'll ever get the super, can't even get it with 10k grind for a long time
>>
>>128323041
Gunslinger is probably the best looking class in the game.
>>
Just rerolled a Charlotta, I assume she's worth playing right? If so, what should i grab with my Start Dash and Surprise Ticket? Was thinking maybe Altair and Silva.
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>>128323181
>maybe
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>>128323181
Well that basically makes a full water team. I still recommend Yoda if you plan on taking advantage of future tickets. If you're cashing in just this time, Altair/Silva is fine.
>>
>>128323041
go back to neogaf
>>
Are the extra classes better than fencer and idolmaster?
>>
>>128323379
No
>>
>>128323284
She's a top water. Check the tier list
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>>128323379
No.
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We Illuminati now
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>>128323181
You can rest now anon. You won the reroll game.
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>>128323416
I know she is
>>
>>128323181
>>128323290
I agree with this anon.
Altair & Silva will give you an esports team that will last until HL but if you plan on buying more tickets in the future Yoda will do a lot more for you now.
But that'd also mean you're potentially using three tickets on water units. Also skipping Yoda will make the game more fun.
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>>128323379
Weebmaster with proper weapon is cancer icnarnate from what I rememeber
>>
>>128323379
No. Nothing will ever beat SS.
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>>128323445
>>
>start dash expires in a couple days
rip naru
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>>128323445
>Wind midget is secretly the final boss of the game
>>
I am the only one playing Sidewinder? I would like to try SS but I have literally only one harp.
>>
>>128323668
No, I like SW. Almost feel guilty for stealing mvp from nips in coop.
>>
>>128323525
GS is better for light though, no clue about the other elements.
>>
Nearly got DF. Is there a dummies guide for it or is autopilot, put up debuffs and go to work for soloing?
>>
>>128323810
>cast debuff (you get it at level 5)
>attack
>repeat
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>>128323805
>Light
GS
>Earth
WM
>Wind
HE. Ogre for some cheese builds
>Fire
SS
>Dark
?
>Water
???

Though I feel like Dark Fencer can go with everything anyway. What class do esports Dark and Water teams use?
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>>128323810
Every non extra class is pretty straightforward, you can't really fuck up if you read what your skills do.
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ult sounds better than ougi
come at me
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>>128323916
SS
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>>128323916
Water is SS as is Dark.
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>>128324009
>>/lolg/
>>
>>128323916
Sword master is actually better for Earth if you have a good main weapon sword.

Dark is good with Sword Master, WM, DF or SS.

Water is really OP with SS because of muh dagger arsenal and the fact soul pilfer makes Altair's debuff hit reliably so you can use rage 3 as EX for more buff stack bullshit.
>>
>>128323916
Why GS for light?

>>128323805
Water is definitely superstar for the fast ougi building and leviathan dagger synergy.
>>
>>128323916
What is GS?
>>
>>128323284
>>128323290
>>128323465
>>128323494
Thanks anons, I'll stick with her and grab Altair and Silva. Would pref spending future tickets on other elements instead of going for three waters.
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>>128323810
It's pretty autopilot.
Only thing you need to learn about is enemy ougi management and using your slow appropriately rather than just spamming it whenever the enemy has a charge.
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>>128324252
Surprise tickets are great for completing a team since it's extremely difficult to roll for a specific character. You'll generally be able to build new teams as you pull from legend fest.
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>>128324249
Gun Slinger
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>>128323916
>Superstar for Fire teams

God damnit.
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>>128324312
Is that one of the new extra classes? How is it unlocked?
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>>128324120
Are people actually this retarded in /gbfg/?
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Should I get clow when my best light summon is zeus/robomi? Her final lb looks good. I can't find zeus any good desu
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>>128324354
Fire has it easy because their best waifu comes with an atk harp for filler desu
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>>128324557
I only have Yuel and she gave me an Axe, so I went for Weapon Master, out of JP now too.
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>>128324240
5-6 maxed chev gun is huge, and GS has a reliable ougi gen with Trine, so your MC won't lag behind unlike most classes that aren't SS or WM.

GS mechanics also works well with the bruteforce style for light, although the lack of tank or proper healer makes that setup unlikely for HL.
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>>128324683
How do I HL light, then?
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>>128321957
We should post the links on the pastebin.
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>>128324937
Nothing original: SS. Even moreso if you have Sorn who gets even better due to her all attack support skill, which is useless anywhere else.
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>first leviathan magna
>SSR weapon
>HP passive
o-oh
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>>128322493
They frequently clear out inactives or reroll accounts so i assume they will after they get their final countdown of active ids.
or
Since it's too close, they skip it for the 9m mark.

Anyway, it's the same for me. I played this long enough to know that they frequently give freebies for no reason at all.
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>>128323445
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Is race boost better than legfest if I wanted a specific summon?
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>>128324032
Which arp is best for dark?
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>New Marie pic on pixiv
>Treasure Hunter Lvl19 on internal cumshot
muh dick
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>>128325354
And by summon I mean character
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>>128325354
Just ticket the summon
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>>128325448
Just ticket the character
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>>128325375
GW
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>>128325354
Just use your start dash and surprise ticket if you want someone specific
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>>128324937
Bishop with coop weapon.
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Rakam and Katarina are cute together.
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>>128325661
>Comic relief
>with anyone
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Does this game give any 2xp event up or something? I'm actually spamming the orb extra because its faster to finish but with pots to cost.
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>>128325270
But they never skipped a number before.
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>>128325723
Vira pls.
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>>128325375
The simplest one to get is the Celeste magna one, your best option would be a element changed GW harp though.
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What do the blue ougi gems mean on bosses?
>>
Are there any requirements for being eligible to do extra quests (via coop)?
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Basically if you go esport, you need to make GW harp for every element, the reign of SS will never end if they keep releasing shitjobs like Alchemist, Sword Master and Gunslinger
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>>128326096
water elemental damage
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>>128326154
This.
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>>128326154
I can understand DF, but what makes SS so bullshit?
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>>128326516
When youre autoattacking for 200k, having the highest DA rate makes a huge difference. Also better debuff rates and GW harp has the best ougi.
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Which phone model is the best for chrome emulation?
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>>128326516
The att/def buff stacks with everything, 70~80 party DA rate, Soul Pilfer letting every single debuff land, basically the better your party the better SS gets.
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do people give out amira accounts or is it like vampy/bahamut/lucifer where they want to keep her?
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>>128327010
I'd give away an Amira account if I had one just like I gave away Vampy.
I only care about Baha and Luci
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I assume that the chance of Ifrit dropping silver animas goes higher along with the difficulty? Been farming VH since the start of event, and I'm still short on silver animas despite having more gold ones than I need.
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Got this on my fourth reroll
Is it good?
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>>128327319
Yeah, because EX has 3 rooms.
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>>128327396
reroll
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>rank 56
>only 3 SSR, all purchased with special tickets
>only rolled shitty summons during legfest

feels bad
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>>128327396
Only lucifer and bahamut are the summons worth not rerolling I believe. Maybe grande?
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>>128327439
Gotcha
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>>128327396
For breeding.
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>>128327396
If you were going to re-roll for a summon only Bahamut, Grande and Lucifer are worth stopping for
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>>128327405
Can't clear it yet, mostly thinking whether I should keep farming VH or try lower difficulties.
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>>128327454
>Rank 59
>12 non ticketed SSR characters
>Only rolled 4 of them from legfest
Don't fall for the legfest meme
Also where's your reroll SSR
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>>128327396
No, you're going to get drowned in regen summons as is, the only summons worth keeping are Luci, Baha and Grande.
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>>128327734

I don't have one.
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>>128327734
How?
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>>128327820
You fucked up.
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How do Grande and Lucifer look like?
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>>128328039
grande cute girl
lucifer generic shounen protag 10042589
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>>128328039
This is Grande
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>>128328039
Grande is a dark skinned girl with long hair who is growing out of some armor ultima shit

Lucifer is a white haired dude with angel wins
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>>128328039
Bishonen with a billion wings is Luci and delicous brown stuck in a dragon head from torso down is Grande.
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>>128328126
Grande chara when?
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>>128328260
After Fenrir chara gets her 5lb.
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>>128327928
Luck. Haven't even seen a single characterless and only two summons from yolo single rolls.
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If all I need is Gold Anima is VH better than EX? I just need to LB the fucking spear
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>>128328384
Fenrir is part of the story right? She has hope to become playable one day
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>>128328260
>>128328260
A grande character might be cool.
Maybe she could have some kind of element change gimmick or something to go with her summon.
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http://granbluefantasy.jp/sp/channel/
#35
5* yueru
Dark element gw boss
Light unknown weapon from gw
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>>128328585
She's Loki's plaything
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>>128328585
I hope so too.
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>>128328631
Time for light fuccbois to shine.
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The ticket from 2nd login stamp guarantees a character weapon. Is it always R or can I login to all my rerolls and try again for a SSR?
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>>128328631
>Was farming Collo this entire time
>Light grid doesn't even exist
Welp
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Are Grande teams ever viable or is it just for newcommer fodding?
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>>128328631
How hard are weapons from GW usually to get? Because I'm fairly certain Chev is unable to drop weapons and anything would be a great alternative.
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This little hop gets me everytime.
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Kind of odd that the gw boss is dark when the most likely free unit would be fire/water
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>>128328818
I can't tell if she's yawning or crying because she hurt her paw
>>
Didn't we just have a Dark GW not 3-4 months ago for Halloween? Why do they keep repeating the same fucking elements for this shit
>>
1/2 cost Magna event when?
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>>128329046
If you're a whale. 15x damage multiplier is some crazy shit.
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>>128329091
Usually in gw, we don't get a character at all.
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>>128329046
Does double Grande work? Because that would be obscene.
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>>128329046
You need to farm 5 mlb unknown weapons of the same element with each element you want to use grande, imagine the effort. They does crazy DPS to compensate anyway.
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>>128329175
This >>128315657
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>>128329239
6.6. Grande

Optimal Setups are:

10 Magna at 7.500
5 Unknown : 5 Magna at 9.188

1 Bahamut 30% : 9 Magna at 7.755
4 Unknown : 1 Bahamut 30% : 5 Magna OR
5 Unknown : 1 Bahamut 30% : 4 Magna at 9.240

2 Bahamut 30%/15% : 8 Magna at 7.590
4 Unknown : 2 Bahamut 30%/15% 4 Magna at 8.832

When talking about Grande summon, it is important to be careful about the modifiers. For grande to activate, you need at least 3 different elements in your party. This means only 2 members will gain benefit from the weapon modifiers, as weapon modifiers are specific to the element.

When using Grande, it is necessary to use as little normal weapons as possible. This is because Grande gives a direct boost to your normal modifier and diminishes the effectiveness of any normal weapon you will use. However to use Grande to its maximum potential, you will need a large pool of unknown weapons.

With the addition of a second bahamut weapon to your weapon pool, there is a slight decrease in overall damage output. This will however increase your HP if you choose to go this route.

Grande setup does not use any Normal weapons. This allows for no freedom in weapon selection.

6.7. Double Grande

Optimal Setups are:

10 Magna at 12.500
5 Unknown : 5 Magna at 15.312

1 Bahamut 30% : 9 Magna at 12.455
4 Unknown : 1 Bahamut 30% : 5 Magna OR
5 Unknown : 1 Bahamut 30% : 4 Magna at 14.84

2 Bahamut 30%/15% : 8 Magna at 11.990
4 Unknown : 2 Bahamut 30%/15% 6 Magna at 13.952

Similar comments apply to Grande summon but in this case using a bahamut weapon decreases damage output by a decent amount. If you are going to use bahamut weapons with Double Grande setup, then I suggest its for added health. Also note that because of this, Double Grande setups can be useful for when you have a team composition that cannot benefit from bahamut weapon as much (Erun / Harbin).

Grande setup does not use any Normal weapons. This allows for no freedom in weapon selection.

from the optimization guide
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>>128329053
Same as story events, rng ticket based
>>
Is there any point in joining evil eyes, gryphons, etc..?
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>>128329671
No.
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>>128329671
People literally only do them for the gems they get for the first time, just forget it exists afterwards
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>>128328631
>Dark element gw boss

It's time
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>>128329927
ORETACHINOOMOI
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>>128328631
Fuck this game sometimes
>>
>fighting celeste
>use potion
I am not a smart man
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>>128328631
Well, here's hoping it doesn't completely hate being debuffed by dark. If it does I'll end up needing to duo it with a debuff slut or something and that's a pain in the ass. Or maybe I'll just break out my wind team, that should at least be able to manage EX solo at a decent speed.
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>>128330109
I've done that multiple times
>>
should i let ai pick my characters every stage or just use my ssr?
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>>128329927
How do you guys manage to build a team for every element? Whaling?
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>>128328631
>5* Yuel
IT IS TIME
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>>128328631
They never said which element the boss will be
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>>128329927
>you will never EVER get lucifer
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Is she good? just rolled her from a ticket
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>>128330342
reroll accounts until you have baha or lucifer and then spend $1000 on star legend
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>>128323176
Assassin Djeeta is a close second.
>>
How's the drop rate for the SSR prize during GW? I only ever farm the VH raid for AP/token efficiency and I've never even seen the SSR drop (Reindeer Axe & Mahisa for the last two GW's).

Light unknown weapon sounds ridiculously good so is it worth it to move up in difficulty for a better drop rate?
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>>128330342
If you play long enough you'll just fill out your grid with event SRs for each team and get lucky with some SSRs or just do surprise gacha for key team components like Jeanne, Vampi, Altair or Cagliostro that let you build a team around them even with SRs
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>>128330342
Well for that team, only Jeanne was acquired by whaling since I suprise ticketed her the other day.

I got Albert, Lucifer, and Sarunan from varying Legfest over the past few months since I started in October
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>>128330412
>>128330464

So how does an average F2P team look like?

Focus on 1-2 element team then stop?
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>>128330557
When you're starting off no matter what you should focus 1-2 elements because that's all your grid farming will be able to support (For magna/serious farming).

Later once your main team is so strong that you can just plow over even off-element bosses then you start filling out your other element grids. It's entirely dependent on your own comfort/grind though
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>>128330557
You can't really focus on an element since the gacha will throw shit out from every element

You just focus on what you have first
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>>128330557
>stop

You never stop
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>>128330681
>>128330685
Thanks. I should focus around my Yuel since I like her the most. Either that or a Dark team.
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>>128330924
Yuel will be broken with her 5* anyway so fire is a good choice since Percy is also broken so ticket him if you want to commit to fire.
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>>128330924
Good taste, especially good since she's apparently getting 5* soon
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>>128330353
Why does she hold her sword like that?
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>>128330557
>F2P
You take what they give you and build around it.
It's pretty fun (at least for me) because of the unpredictability.
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>>128331393
Because she's a massive slut.
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What a cutie
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>>128331128
>apparently getting 5* soon
lel already thinking that anything is confirmed
>>
>>128331641
It is.
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>>128331516
>hag
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>>128331684
>fascist
>>
>>128331675
Yeah just like Sieg 5*
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>>128332295
Confirmed by Granblue channel. Or you can just wait for a few days and see it yourself.
>>
>play Granblue because I like fantasy games
>ends up playing poker 70% of the time
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>>128332295
Except it was explicitely stated by Touyama and Katou during the usual Guraburu channel, in which every announcement has been fulfilled shortely thereafter.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1452578778

Stop acting like a autist.
>>
>>128332505
It's an autist.
>>
>>128332551
Yes anon, keep it off topic.
>>
Remember to be nice to each other, gbfg
>>
>>128333285
You're not helping.
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>>128333193
Yeah keep going, that sure will help.
This autistic IRC is so fucking cancerous.
>>
For future purposes, should I assume the game's down for maintenance since I became unable to press the game start button while rerolling?
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>>128333586
Game never goes on maintenance
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>>128333642
Weird.
Tried restarting chrome and I'm using private mode, so there's no cache to begin with.
Gonna try restarting my computer
>>
>>128328631
Any info on 5* Yuel's skills?

Should be interesting to see what 2 skill buffs, extra effect on ougi, and extra passive they give her.
>>
>>128333753
Same thing here.
Can't access My Page, but other menus work fine
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>>128333193
>>128333285
Are you new here?

He doesn't even play the game, you know only newfags do stuff like calling people samefag in 4chan since it is never really that way right?
>>
>>128333761
delay on her aoe. ougi boost on her heal
>>
I underestimated how much Jeanne would increase my light team's damage, good lord. Does Arusha's team attack buff stack with hers too?
>>
>>128334106
>>128333964
>>128333906
Stop this fucking shit already.
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Sochie 5* when?
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Will she ever be playable?
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>>128334358
Who?
>>
How do I into xp coop?
I got the items crafted but I don't know how to proceed from there. From what I've gathered throughout my short coop history is that xp is bound to the points one accumulates, right? So you wait on the rest so that everyone get's a more or less the same share?
>>
>>128333907
Pretty much what I'm thinking.
Make her a replacement for Anira.
>>
>>128334292
aww, that's a really cute picture Falz.
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>>128334358
After Carumerina gets buffed and 5*
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>>128333907
Seems pretty reasonable, was expecting them to either make her 1st skill party wide or add a debuff to the 2nd one.

Curious what the other boosts will be, given that Lancelot took most of the continuous attack ones.
>>
>>128334481
You'd be a saint if you did that, but unfortunately you'll meet so many japs trying to hog all exp for themselves you're better off just doing the same unless you're with people you know.
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So how many midgets can she take at once?
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>>128335160
None, fuck off already
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>>128335160
All of them
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>>128335160
She's a strong woman.
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>>128335160
Someone tell her to put some real clothes on.
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Do I got with the cheesemaster right here or Yuel for my first account?
Only really feel like playing because of the Slayers collab
>>
>>128335383
Worst fetish.
>>
>>128335405
You'll be useless as fuck for the event so Yoda will mitigate that by a little bit
>>
>>128335405
If only for that, go with cheesemaster and let him carry you to the slayers characters.
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>>128308238
>>128312406
>>128312773
>>
>>128335785
Based cake
>>
>>128335785
That's why I took Beatrix even though everyone said she sucked. She's so cute that it doesn't matter, I'm using her anyway
>>
>>128335383
>Pregnant with midgets
Wow
>>
>>128335785
Fukken saved.
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>wake up to this

What do you do?
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>>128335391
Sluts dont wear real clothes anon.
Real clothes get in the way when they're going to get down and dirty.
>>
>Anchira
>>
>>128336769
Touch fluffy ear
>>
>>128334454
>>
>>128336194
>>That's why I took Beatrix even though everyone said she sucked.
I hope she's sucking you off every day to make that ticket worth it
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Was she worth the mats?
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Don't fuck it up
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>>128336769
Wait for translation.
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>>128336769
TL and better resolution?
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>>128337049
Characterless SSR
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>>128337049
Nice meme summon you got there.
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>>128328039
>>
>>128336801
I don't get it.
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>>128337049
AHAHAHA
BE MY DISCIPLE
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>>128337049
Fuck me with a potato up my asshole
This is draining my sanity far more than I expected
>>
>>128337049
Nice Ghanda.
>>
>>128337238
That's pretty good
>>
>>128337238
Time to reroll
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>>128337238
FUCK YOU
>>
>>128337238
Athena is gud man, not top tier but still.
>>
>>128337238
Who are you aiming for?
>>
>>128337238
But It's a really good summon, and can still be useful even If you don't have a fire team.
>>
>>128337238
That's not a bad roll, Athena's good to have.
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>>128337238
Fuck you
>>
>>128336995
>Breeding with Cerberus
>>
>>128337317
I'm following the principle of "If it's not Bahamut/Grande or Lucifer, reroll" regarding summons
>>
>>128336514
It's an edit.

>>128336784
>random artist image
>meaning anything
Artists draw what they want, it doesn't mean anything
>>
Should I break or sell extra Magna summons? What are the elemental pieces used for?
>>
Is there a strategy to play bingo? And what's the point of clicking on the numbers?
>>
>>128337482
For 4* weapons and summons. You're gonna need fuckton of them but you can whale.
>>
>>128337376
Yoda
>>
>>128337302
>>128337304
>>128337317
>>128337376
>>128337381
>>128337430

I don't mean to say it's bad or anything but I'm doing this whole rerolling shit because I want Anchira and I will not settle for anything less than her.
Also, that x10 gacha is fucking annoying, it hasn't given me SSR even once so far.
>>
>>128337465
So if Beatrix had a baby midget, what would she name it?

And what would his abilities be?

Would it be stronger than the mother or just a R shitter?
>>
>>128337482
Break them for rainbow crystals.
>What are the elemental pieces used for?
Mlb summons with 4*
>>
>>128337573
... Are you retarded? She's a limited character, you'd have to wait until the next legend fest.
>>
>>128337573
>anchira
wat
>>
>>128337573
Anchira isn't even in the gacha
>>
>>128337573
>he doesnt know
>>
>>128337573
>rerolling for Anchira outside of legfest
Anon..
>>
>>128337573
>"I didnt read the guides" - The post

A staple of /gbfg/
Never change guys
>>
>>128337573
>Anchira
>Not legfest
Ooh boy
>>
>>128337573
the free 10x from starting out is rigged. You need to follow the guide in the google docs.
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>>128337573
10/10
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>>128337547
click the first two
wait on 3rd triggering bonus ball until reach or last ball
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>>128337573
I first started rerolling with Cagliostro in mind.
I didn't really bother if it wasn't her, but I didn't have summons in mind when I started.
Then again, if it's as good as you guys say, I'll stick with Athena
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>>128337573
>I want Anchira and I will not settle for anything less than her
>>
>>128337573
Why Anchira?
>>128337807
You definitely want an SSR character if you're starting out.
>>
>>128337604
>So if Beatrix had a baby midget
But she won't, so the rest of your post is worthless
>>
>>128337807
I would highly suggest your reroll ssr be a character instead. They have more impact than an ssr summon.
>>
>>128337807
Athena's good, but not starting the game good
>>
>>128337891
She's already pregnant and she's going to give birth soon.

We need to discuss the future of her baby and how he's going to live without ever knowing his father.
>>
>>128337807
Unless you roll Order Grande, Bahamut or Lucifer no SSR summon is worth re-rolling for

Athena is "Awesome I pulled Athena after I started the game good" not "reroll for Athena" good
>>
>>128337573
Post your fucking list
>>
>>128337883
>>128337901
>>128337939
Got it. I marked my email and details for Athena, but I'll try giving rerolling another go in case I get something better today
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>>128337807

>>128337716
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>>128337985
Hah? Are you drunk or something? How did you come to that conclusion? Beatrix is not pregnant and that's that
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>>128338253
>being a cuck in denial
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>>128337663
>>128337672
>>128337682
>>128337683
>>128337702
>>128337716
>>128337723
>>128337736
>>128337790
>>128337807
>>128337835
>>128337883
What the fuck.
No seriously what the fuck.
I've been doing this shit over the past 3 days, 14 fucking hours a day, on my 500th salted mail account, and you're telling me the x10 gacha can't even give SSR and Anchira isn't even on the mother fucking pool? You can only fucking get fucking SSR from the one fucking present fucking ticket that only gives one fucking roll per fucking account because the x10 gacha is rigged?

I'm so fucking done. I've rolled around 20 SSR but I didn't bother keeping any of the accounts because most were guys and summon and I don't give a shit about them I thought i can just get Anchira. Fuck this shit.
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>>128338441
>Not reading the guides
>Being mad because you didn't read
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>>128338441
top kok
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>>128338441
Well, it's none other than your fault if you didn't bother reading the guide
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>>128338441
(you)
>>
>>128338441
Monkeyfags, everyone.
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>>128338441
Rip.
Where's the giveaway anon when you need him.
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>>128338441
"I'm autistic" - The post.
>>
I feel like that a retard right now.

What happens with those potions I keep picking in the quests? They are not on my items list nor my presents.
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>>128338582
Nowhere as it should be. Giveaways make the average player more retarded. Do you really want this shitter in your guild, who's illiterate and can't read guides?
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>>128338253
>She's not pregnant

Look at that belly.
She's ready to give birth at any time.

One day she's going to have to tell her baby that she was raped and he was the result.
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>>128338709
They become 10 rupee each when battle ends.
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>>128338709
do the tutorial
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>>128338441
see: >>128336801
Picture of you.
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>>128338658
what
>>
>>128338709
They're for use in the specific map only.
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>>128338709
They don't get carried over between battle. You generate a couple of potions per mission so use them if you need to use them, if not they become a negligible amount of rupees at the end.
>>
So can you get the girl who look like Lyria later on?
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>>128338995
Maybe in a few years
>>
So this thing says it drops in Stage 3 and Stage 4 on Normal and Hard. Does it drop from a specific encounter or can it drop for any encounter in the specified stages?
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>>128338995
you can in RoB
>>
Do sub-member's support ability also affect the main team?
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>>128338401
>waah I can't prove anything so I'll throw some buzzwords around

>>128338746
I don't see a pregnant belly, or are you talking about the EDIT made by some fag in japan?
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>>128339083
it drops in Stage 3 and Stage 4
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>>128338441
See folks, this right here is why you should go to school and learn to how read.
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>>128338995
Yeah after

Monica
Sturm
Drang
Fenrir
Apolonia
Gareth
Scathach
Apolonia Black Knight skin
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>>128338441
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>>128339083
Forgot image.
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>>128339259
You get it from gold chests in those stages
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>>128339138
You're right, it's not pregnant, just full of midget cum.
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Man this shit takes forever as a new player.

At least I'll be able to buy a bunch of JP and SRs as well, when its over.
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>>128338441
If you remember any SSR character account send it to me, I've yet to get one.
[email protected]
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So any encounter will do then? Maybe it's about time I invested in Hawkeye. Wasted 4 1/2 AP pots and it still hasn't dropped.
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>>128339535
Try to leech nips if you can manage to get into a room
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>>128339535
Coop quests that require the gold drops are the worst ones you can get.
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>>128339480
Her undergarments are still neatly in place. Try again, or actually, stop trying because you're wrong
>>
I want Beatrix to cheat on me!
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>>128339482
Yoda sure is carrying you.
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>>128339679
5yo and I don't give a fuck you can't stop me.
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>>128339754
somebody is so butthurt for his waifu
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>>128338441
You are a retard, but you are also autistic so if you are willing to learn and still want to get Anchira, grab one of the dump accounts, read the guides until you know what you're doing and as soon as the next legfes starts, reroll for her. You can get more than one ticket per reroll if you follow the guides.
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Broke F2P status to get Percy for fire team. Will I be fine without Catarina's 40% damage reduction?
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>>128339930
Why wouldn't I be butthurt if people are blatantly lying about her? I'd appreciate it if you would all kindly stop doing so
>>
>>128339930
He's definitely one of the most autistic people in the thread.

These extreme amounts of denial cant be healthy.
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>>128339883
Bahamut and Narumeia in this case :^)
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>>128339930
NTR and impregnation are actually two of my fetishes so I don't care if people bullshit about Beato being used goods. I just enjoy watching your desperation to make people hate her because you're mad her VA sucked some dicks.
>>
>>128340323
Beacucks confirmed for literal cucks.
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>>128340097
You don't need barriers since lol Fear.
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>>128339679
Doraf are very sexual. Even a six year old has a nubile body that is begging to be impregnated.
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>>128340727
Do not sexualize Yaia.
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>>128340242
You doing it on extreme or just on very hard?
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>>128339679
Where do I find a kid that kicks as much ass as feather
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>>128340856
You don't. You just wait/pray for SSR Feather.
>>
I should be using all dupes of rusted weapon for limit breaking right?
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>>128341086
Break them for mats
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>>128340210
>defending you're waifu is autistic
>calling out bullshit is unhealthy
You're kidding, right? Do you even know what you're saying?
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>>128341364
She's a slut, not your waifu.

She took multiple midget dicks on every hole and liked it
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>>128341364
>you're
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Tell me /gbf, who should I lb5* first? I only got about 100k left lol
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The hell is this thing?

>>128341456
Wow, how fucking new are you?
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>Percy-senpai's Ougi

I'm in love, no homo. Thanks to the guy who recommended me him.
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>>128341895
Probably Amira considering you seem to main light
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>>128341936
I regret not picking him with my ticket after seeing how op fear was.
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>>128341895
A bit unrelated but It's「やっはろ~」with ~ being optional.
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>>128341432
And where is your proof? Or are you just some meme spouting bullshitter who's gonna pat himself on the back after? Thought so
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>>128341913
>"Hurr durr what's this thing that's in the guide?"
>"Wow, sure is new in here."
>>
>>128342139
This is /gbfg/ in one post

Newfags calling each other newfags
>>
>>128342083
Who did you pick instead?
>>
>>128342250
Birdman.
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>>128339679
Why do the youngest girls all have tits while girls like Charlotte are flat-chested?
>>
>>128342361
Dorafs are basically blacks
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>>128342480
So they prefer ass?
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>>128342480
>>128342570
Why do black people prefer it in the ass?
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Took 8 tries this time
Let's at least hope it's not a third summon this time
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>>128342480
But anon the 6yo girl is also a Doraf and she has cowtits.
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>>128342639
*drumroll*
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>>128342639
Characterless
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>>128342639
Ghanda senpai!
>>
How do I break weapons for mats?
>>
>>128342639
Dank sarunan
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>>128342639
Good news, it's not a summon.
Bad news, it's not a moeblob girl either.
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>>128342724
>She gets raped and mindbroken in front of him
>He's forced to watch
>He eventually starts fapping to the scene

The doujins just write themselves
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>>128342805
>Bad news
Fuck you
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>>128342480
>Dorafs are always the rapists in the doujins
seems accurate

>>128342805
He's top tier though at least
>>
>>128342805
embrace the megane
>>
>>128342805
Could be worse senpai
>>
>>128342805
Suprise ticket Silva
Start dash Charlotte
>>
The guy is screenshotting screenshots, stop replying to the autist that's fishing for reactions.
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>>128342835
I deeply apologize for having a sexual drive for females
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>>128342805
I'll take him.
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>>128342805
>get the literally most overpowered support in the game
>complain
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>>128342924
How salty can you get
>>128343007
I don't know how your process of thought works, but saying "bad news, it's a guy" doesn't equal to "god damn he's so bad I regret everything". I simply stated I was hoping for a girl
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>>128342805
Bad news comes in many forms.

This guy isn't one of them
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>>128342924
got a lot of catch.
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>>128343174
>Facebook

This is the kind of person we have in this general now
>>
>>128343174
Don't mind the IRC shitter, he thinks everyone is Falz or another boogeyman.
>>
If the only SSR midget I don't have is Charlotte, should I even roll the star gacha today?

Or do I risk Ghanda tomorrow hoping for Naru
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How about you guys shut the fuck up and watch game grumps
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>>128343426
Ez
You don't roll at all.
>>
Is Yoda, Charlotte and Silva a good water team or do I need megane/Lily in my team?
>>
>>128343426
Why didn't you roll in the human one? I mean I think the answer is pretty cut and dry here
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>>128342805
You're just unlucky. Today is loli moeblog day.
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>>128343426
>risk
You're implying it's not guaranteed.
>>
>>128343204
What are some of the better choices I can get for a solo setup?
I'm more of a statfag than a waifufag, so I don't have any specific preferences, but a cute girl is always a plus, so if the said megane is on the top of his class, then I'll stick with that
>>
>>128343371
Hey Falz, how's life treating you?
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>>128343506
Pick up Altair if you're gonna run end game stuff, Yoda for all your farming needs.
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>>128343516
I got a Google Play giftcard as a gift after the human one was over.

I'll probably just not roll like it's been suggested
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Took this screenshot from a friend. Why is this guy attack so high for an SR? He looks stronk.
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>>128343775
Look at the picture and you'll find the answer
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>>128343775
He's a solid character for your team
>>
>>128343775
He's solid
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>>128343775
He's a 5*
>>
>>128343446
Why game grumps?
>>
>>128343604
>>128343604
Some of the people you could get to play with Altair? I'd think Charlotte or Lancelot would work the best.

Since you're starting off I'd assume you're gonna be using this team through most of the game without giving a shit about element.

Silva is really nice for killing things but one of her skills only works on fire elemental enemies because it's crit.

Lancelot probably hits harder than charlotte but one of his skills overlaps with Altair.

Charlotte is cute, can inflict defense down, and comes with an ability that gets your defense nice and high for one turn, to deal with enemy ougis.
>>
>>128343849
>>128343862
>>128343916
>>128343934
I see.
>>
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=54684686
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>>128344043
Noted. Thanks a lot.
>>
>>128340850
extreme when 120% bahamuts show up as support, otherwise I have trouble with the 2nd room
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>>128339679
>5, 6, 10 and 11 have tits
>12 and 13 are flat
???
>>
>>128344307
>age is proportional to tit size
>>
>>128344043
Endgame non-HL water is literally SS MC/Altair/Lance/Silva making everything explode, mostly because the SS buff, Rage III and Altair's buffs stack along with SS having Soul Pilfer which makes landing Altair's Mist clone much easier.
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>>128341895
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>>128344481
It usually is anon.
Also I have yet to see a single fanart of Lily where she's flat-chested like in the game.
>>
>>128343862
>>128343916
Goddammit.
>>
>>128344157
I might need to take that back, gimme a sec
>>
Is there an easy way to unlock ninja/samurai or sword master ?
I got a lot of katana but i can't use any.
>>
>>128344214
What's your homepage damage? Even with Naru+Baha I can't kill extreme, can't get past the second room without burning everything or dying horribly.
>>
>>128345365
There's no easy way. You have to clear EX coop and have some drops to unlock those classes.
>>
Is there a guide to ZP? I read a bit around and people are saying many confusing things about it. How exactly do ZP work? Are they only specific to a single class?
>>
>>128345543
Read the guide
>>
>>128345543
The guide in the OP
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>>128345509
Well damn.
I don't touch coop much and didn't even finish all the normal stages.
Also im only rank 45.
>>
>>128345731
Haha, good luck on your GW character, anon
>>
>>128345731
Well you can have others carry you. I'm free to carry for a while if you want to spend the AP on it. Just post the room code here.
>>
>>128345731
Wait for some 1/2 ap event, i was like you last december and did a crazy run with some japs until EX2. Now i have almost all the special clases except for SM.
>>
>>128345387
22000 on profile / 26000 on main game screen thingy with the star beside it, dunno what the dif is

if you use a bahamut 120% as the support it'll oneshot the rock guy on room 2, which is what I do to win, D-angels sorta work as well but will leave it at like 20-30% hp, though you get 40% more hp to make up for some extra hits
>>
>>128345543
Anyone?
>>
>>128345979
It's in the OP you spastic.
>>
>>128345972
Difference is the one on My Page is combined stats so it adds in your HP too.
>>
>>128345847
I opened a room and it got filled right away.
>>
>>128346204
You opened a public room.
>>
new thread
>>
>>128344665
Keep in mind that Dorafs are shortstacks that develop early and Amira is an angel/demon hybrid with accelerated physical aging.
>>
>>128346069
Or you could stop shitposting as my question isn't exactly answered:
Apparently the ultimate guide seems to imply ZP only work on specific classes, but the FAQ does not mention anything like that. So which do I follow?
>>
>>128346305
>angel/demon hybrid
How'd that happen?
>>
>>128344820
Alright, let me explain something first

There's a system in this game through which it is decided whether or not attack and defense debuffs stack.

Basically, Attack and Defense stats can be affected by an ability alone as in one stat get modified, or alongside the other, so that both do. Armor Break from the weapon master line affects defense alone. Miserable Mist from dark fencer affects both attack and defense, so these two would stack, and the enemy would have really low defense, and low attack.

If you look at the character list for Water, you'll see Socie, and her second skill is a defense/atk down like altair's. If you used both of them on someone, the more potent one would take effect. Socie's is technically better but people tend to like Altair's overall skillset more, so he gets more use. If you casted Altair and Socie's debuffs, you would get lowered attack and defense from Socie's debuff but nothing from Altair's.

With that said, the Japanese wiki seems to say that Lancelot's second ability is weird in that it counts as two debuffs, one attack debuff and one defense debuff. So, both halves of it would end up stacking with Altair's skill. If you hit with both abilities, you would have an enemy with significantly lower attack AND defense.

With that said, I'm not entirely sure who you should chose. Lancelot is a lot more potent offensively, like what >>128344630 is describing, but you've just started and I doubt you'll have the firepower to kick someone's teeth in so quickly that they can't get any big attacks off. I'd still learn towards Charlotte but if anyone wants to disagree, go ahead.
>>
>>128346262
Well damn for some reason they left.
I made another one not public
A1AB6
>>
>>128346486
And this time you made a friend only room so I can't join.
>>
>>128346486
They do that if you take too long
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>>128346305
>Keep in mind that Dorafs are shortstacks that develop early
Most Dorafs are flat though.
>>
>>128346695
Midgets are called Harbins
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>>128346695
You moron
>>
>>128346593
My bad.
F0758
>>128346665
I was ready right away.
>>
>>128346695
Charlotte is a halfling.
>>
>>128346462
I should also state Charlotte can debuff defense just like Lancelot. It's just that he gets rid of offense as well. Though, around end game if you looked on the ultimate guide, there are a bunch of weapons that increase attack and HP based on race. Because Humans are so prevalent their racial weapons, the sword and dagger, tend to see more use. It's not like you have to go full autismo and still three human members in a party, but if less than two of your party members besides yourself benefit from a baha weapon then putting one in loses its value pretty quickly. You'll want them in by the way.
>>
>>128346801
Not the guy but how hard it is to do EX2? I know that nips really hate it.
>>
>>128346897
Only the dam EX2-1 crab is hard, the rest is simple.
>>
>>128346732
>>128346864
Oh I thought Doraf was the only short class. My bad.
>>
>>128346897
Skull crab is the hardest and the rest is easy.
>>
>>128347096
>>128347148
Well shit, I need that crab to advance. That's why people simply leave the room when they see it.
>>
New thread?
>>
>>128347230
Put rank req 90+ and pray
>>
>>128347259
Im currently making the new thread, please hold
>>
>>128347230
Buff the room if you want people to stick around, some heal pots and revival stones would help.
>>
New bread:
>>128347387
>>128347387
>>128347387
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>>128347230
It has very high debuff resistance like black armored knight monster and has annoying reflect ougi. Spam coop items and brute force it.
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>dis nigga
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>>128346462
This is my team right now (I have Lily too). Should i surprise ticket Altair?

If im not wrong Riruru buff stacks with Altair's one.
>>
>>128347958
Ticket birdman and go wind instead
>>
>>128346462
>With that said, the Japanese wiki seems to say that Lancelot's second ability is weird in that it counts as two debuffs, one attack debuff and one defense debuff.
That's not exactly weird as it is just an effect that works differently. The evidence of that is that it stacks with miserable mist, so it doesn't count as a double debuff which is the case for Altair and Soshie.

Hell, it is the same for SSR Vira: her first ability inflict 2 single debuffs, as it stacks with MM.
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>>128347107
Doraf grow into these beauties

Note the horns and breasts
>>
>>128346418
>Belzebuth was the one that, helped by Martinet, kidnapped the angel Nicole and created Amira from his and her essence for his plan to release Bahamut.
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