/wgg/ Wargames General

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Guess we're dead forever

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HAVE YOU ACCEPTED THIS BEAUTIFUL AIRCRAFT INTO YOUR LIFE
>AESTHETICS
>HIGH THRUST/WEIGHT
WHAT MORE DO U NEED NIGGA

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>>128217214
THIS IS CORRECT

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FULCRUM PRIDE WORLD WIDE>>128217270

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>>128217347
DA TOVARISH

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>>128217395
MIGS ARE GONNA SAVE THIS THREAD

how accurate is the systems modelling of the BMS of the F16?

It feels really dumbed down and limited compared to the A10C

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>Page 9

Sorry. Can't post MiGs, I'm in uni

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>>128222627
It okay bae

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>Page 10

what even happened to this general

>>128232014
You dummies didn't post this thread into the last one. The other one has still been going.

Old thread: >>127827259

>>128218173
>dedicated ground attack crafts are better at attacking ground than multiroles
You don't say?

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I approve of this thread.

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>>128205728
>not bothering to include a link to the old thread
>moving planefag pastebin to the bottom with the ancient wargame links

I am laffin

>>128205728
Why did you make this thread you retarded nigger?
>>128232014
This one's been dead for 10 hours because the other one was still up and strong.

>even with the shitposting, warbabbies and planeposters the general is dying

>>128240728
It's the January lull. Devs still aren't back from Christmas, people are signing up for the new semester of classes, and new stuff usually doesn't come out until at least Spring.

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>>128240728
121 IPs per thread
90 hour long thread

not ded desu

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post ideal decks

>>128231671
>>128233209
>>128235827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Wq9o_Rbvw

yet another tourney cast from today.

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>>128217214
>>128217270
>>128217347
>>128217395
>>128217603
>>128220559
>>128225532
>>128239784
>yfw the mig-29 is one of the least successful aircraft in history
>yfw it's pareto inferior to the su-27

>>128246261
>missing the f-22

>>128246376
the f-35 is actually going to be a successful fighter

holy shit

Fun in BMS increases by several magnitudes once you plan your own mission packages

Can't believe how shitty DCS is compared to that

>>128246687
>Fun in BMS increases by several magnitudes once you plan your own mission packages
Yes, you already said that.
It should've been obvious that you shouldn't leave that to the computer anyway.

>>128246836
>Yes, you already said that.
I did?

>>128246883
Unless this wasn't you, yes, you did: >>127987230

>>128246687
>plan your own mission packages
You mean creating your own missions?

>>128241875

Stay here, Mosque

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Is this ok, also why the fuck does this game have draws?

>>128249468
>supply helo
>no supply truck
>putting fascistjäger in helo
>no marder 2
>no atgm
>no spaag
>no mortar
>leo 2a1
>no shock recon
>no cheap fighting recon
>mirage 2000 not elite

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>>128246427
Even us Burgerboos know it's a piece of garbage that only exists because of contractors throwing senators kickbacks.

>>128250828
Marder 2 is too expensive for my tastes and I use fallschirmjagers for openers to deny an area, but the rest I can get behind.

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>>128247257
Not him but, no.

Planning a mission in BMS would be equivalent to planning a tactical engagement.

Planning a package in BMS implies you're setting up a flight or a combination of flights in the middle of a larger context, in this case, the dynamic campaign, to do something, say, strike some position, do an OCA strike against an airbase, etc etc, to help the conflict.

If I had to make an analogy to DCS I'd say it would be equivalent to planning a flight in the middle of an ongoing mission.

>>128251362
You'd be better off using recon infantry for heliborne openings, you sacrifice too much otherwise in my opinion.

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Chinook

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GENERAL CONFUSION

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fv432

>>128251362
It is.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1keSoFDjl1P7E_ZAi0Vxn_PEYNJ4F1omCN2FYcknTbXk

>>128255083
but you forget that it's only obvious for cheap units to have the highest HE cost efficiency.

Could you include the BMP-3 on that chart?

>>128255083
General suppression isn't the Marder 2's role though. It's supposed to be an IFV that rapes every other IFV.

>>128251416
man, I want to play BMS 4.33 but I just cannot be bothered to go through the pain of setting up the controls.

DCS has spoiled me with it's modern approach to UI design.
I just cannot deal with software from the 90s anymore.

>>128256497
I guess it really boils down to what stick you have and reserving 30 minutes or so to use the powerpoint spreadsheet to do it or just use a pre-made profile if your stick has one.

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>>128261760
>/wgg/
>Wargame

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>download Steel Fury
>apply unofficial patch
>apply widescreen fix
>it doesn't fix anything
>SPM link on forum links to 4shared
>>>>>4shared
>tab just closes anyway after "download ready"
>you have less than 128MB video memory
>))))))))))))))))
>cyka blyat intensifies

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don't die

post ur cockpits

Fuckn weebs

>>128263404
>Tissot
You even don't try.

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>>128263404

>>128263404
>mfw it's too covered in beer bottles and weeb shit to take a picture of.
Not like this.

>>128266558
clean it up faggot, I am going to take a pic soon and you can all laugh at my gamur gear

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>>128263404
>>128268048
>inb4 razer shitter
They were gifts so whatever..

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Have the raw data and images for blufor bombers all done
When I make the info graph should I split them by he and ap or just leave them together?
I'll be doing napalm later.

>>128255735
It would be a nonsense comparison, since BMP3 has very good atgms and is way better a long range. But i can tell you BMP3 would still come out on top. Very easy!
higher rof autocannon with the same HE value
+ secondary gun
+ lower price

It would perform similarly to the BMP-1D.

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>>128269491
Here is my copilot Max

>>128269861
it has one turret.

>>128255753
This role doesn't exist.
Tracked vehicles meet tanks on the open and infantry in the forests. Otherwise you are plaing against someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

>>128269948
the autocannon alone is enough.
3 times the RPM + same HE

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>>128269491
>Not putting your gloves in the picture,
You can't fool me, I know it's you.

>>128270302
Yea nah, I live in a warm climate mate it aint me.

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Attention aspiring plane fags

Do not. I repeat. Do FUCKING NOT buy this flight stick.

Its the Saitek Cyborg X Fly 5 or some shit.

Its fucking horrible. Worst stick I've ever used.

The spring is so fucking tense that small movements are literally impossible as it jerks the stick fucking everywhere. Fuck this product.

I miss my Logitech Wingman :(

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>>128270446
>I live in a warm climate

>>128270225
>3 times the RPM
lies

>same HE
but higher damage radius, if it means anything

>>128270053
however it will push through practically any flank. And anyway his tanks should be engaging your own

>>128270446
Also, that is a fughueg mouse mat.

>>128270546
Why on earth would you... I mean... it even looks shit.

>>128270656

Swear on my life I didn't buy it. My dad did.

He had it laying around for ever while he still uses our old school Logitech Wingman.

I asked if I could have before I left and he said sure I'll never use it.

I now know why.

Why is it called the "Fulda Gap" when it's just as hilly and urbanized as the rest of Germany?

>>128270656
>Also, that is a fughueg mouse mat.
Even tho its razershit its nice, keeps the desk in good nick and plenty of room to move mouse around.

>>128270623
>nit pick
well 2x approx, still much better
>Damageradius
Higher doesn't change anything cause HE=1

I added BMP and it's better. Check the spreadsheet.

>>128272105
>it's better
though not better than the 2HE Marder

>Higher doesn't change anything cause HE=1
From what I've read you deal full HE inside half the splash radius, and then it drops off. But that could be wrong.

>>128273280
>not better than 2he marder2
not as fire support until 1925m, but above that.
and better against tanks above 1050m.
and better against apcs and ifvs above 1925m

>Damage radius effect
My formula takes that into account already, but at 1HE the effect isn't strong enough to counter the big rof difference.

>>128274742
>My formula takes that into account already
right. Was just wondering what you meant

>>128271481
It's marketable.

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Polish airforce lineup is done.

Their only SEAD aircraft is another Su-22, and their level bombers consist of Su-20s and Su-22s with lPB-250s and ZAB-250 FAEs on them. And Il-28s before 1986.

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Does anyone have a profile for the logitech 3D for the SU25t like this one for the A10C?

>>128279635
>no mig-29

>>128269594
those rearm times are really nice to know, thank you

>>128280468
Poland's 12 MiG-29s (3 of which were only trainers) were not delivered until late 1989-1990. They're OOTF by a few months as the timeframe is the week of July 21st, 1989. In addition, the few MiG-29s they did have were strictly CAP and thus do not show up in the strike fighter list.
Most of Poland's MiG-29s are actually ex-luftwaffe MiG-29Gs delivered after the end of the cold war.

>tfw no Cold War grand strategy/strategic wargame

>>128279796
yeah use the stick buttons for shkval targetting and flaps/airbrake

side buttons for navigation/misc stuff. i have buttons 7/8 set as modifiers

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>>128281301
>tfw

>>128281592
Don't remind me anon

>>128281008
No prob. It's stuff that should be known but isn't.
I had to use a stop watch to time it.

>>128205728
I think I'm going to start playing Wargame:Red Dragon again.

I haven't played for awhile though. Whats the current meta?

>>128269594
Can you do SEAD as well? I know the high end missiles make the rearm take longer, but I've always wondered by how much.

What's a good loadout for the Su-25A?

B
M
P

>>128288464
rockets for days

>>128281581
share your profile?

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>>128262154
>implying every other genre isn't ponying off of old wiggie

>>128288464
S-8s, S-25Ls, FAB-500s, S-13s

>>128288095
Maybe

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>try red rising in editor
>hit MBT 70 with konkurs
>absolutely nothing happens to it
k lmao

How the fuck do you take on a formation of F-15s in any Russian jet? 1 on 1 it's easy to juke them and then rape them in WVR, but against multiple F-15s you'll always get slapped by his two other wingmen, even if you're on one's tail. Doesn't help that the R-27 series is absolutely useless while AMRAAM eats flankers for breakfast.

>>128300425
Gotta be a mountain dweller, use ETs and hope they are too stupid to preemptively evade it, or have greater numbers and accept some losses.

>>128300591
>mountain dweller

This is a meme tactic and only works on a single F-15.

>>128300742
it also only works where there's mountains

>>128300742
Never said it wasn't a meme tactic. It can work against multiple sometimes but any engagement against multiple F-15s will always have you at a disadvantage unless you have a vastly superior force.

Still better than trying to do a BVR fight with ERs

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Whoregame is SHIT tonight

>>128303000
RD just shit.

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>>128303000
>tfw never have an accurate tank simulator with good graphics

Does anyone here play Point of Attack 2?

Thoughts?

>>128303531
Steel Beasts

>>128304476
>good graphics

>>128303531
>>128304594
Absolutely NOTHING wrong with the visuals of Steel Beasts Pro PE 3.0.

If it's really such an issue I'm sure a fucking eye cancer sweetfx filter of vignette, bloom and awful saturation will satisfy you.

>>128304748
I don't think you've looked outside in a long time anon.

Maybe doing so would help with your pent up aggression too.

>>128300425
gee i don't know maybe get your own wingmen

>inb4 teamwork op

>>128304895
i had my own wingmen and we all got raped, even by smaller numbers of f-15s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aduZiNNeTwU

>tfw you'll never play a DCS without ED's fucked missiles

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>>128306685
Relax senpai, they're actively working on missiles.

>>128306685
Forgive the question, but what's wrong about them? I just spend all my time in the A-10, what's wrong with missiles?

>>128308360
A2A missiles in general have a fraction of their actual range, and SARH missiles don't know what planes are, or why they'd want to hit them.

>>128308395
So what, does everyone just go straight for guns? We WW2 now?

>>128308823
No, it just means that anything without an ARH is forced to fight in mountains and WVR combat happens a lot sooner.

Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBDc2pDQgVg

>>128309105
>not this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rAHrHd2lcw

Turbopleb, you are. Although I am currently wearing my Afganka. Feels comfy, bro.

>>128307735
That's what they've been saying for the past 2 years

>>128308395
Don't forget that missiles follow targets perfectly with no tracking delays and no optimization of intercept route depending on remaining total energy

A missile will correct for even barrel rolls where the target maintains the same heading causing the missile to burn energy attempting to follow the target when there is no change in direction of travel.

>>128309105
>>128310409
You two sucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnoJP6ohesI

>>128310929
>just a bunch of shitty guitar and drum noodling
>no bad ass lyrics or anything
Sounds like a bad version of OM or something.

At least you've got the Slav-who-learned-English phrasing down.

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>not BTR song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A21w1QWU8Wc

>>128254167
Where did you get this?

>be redfor tank
>get outclassed in every category by cheaper blufor tank

XDDDD

>>128312779
>t34

Checkmate, HATO babi.

>>128307735
if this is them actively working on something, i'd hate to see what just working on something is.

>>128313404
They're working on F-18. They've been working on it since 2012.

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>>128312779

Why is the dynamic campaign in BMS so god damn buggy

this is the 3rd campaign I have to restart

Comrades, for long-term engagements in MOWAS2 (as in, your dude carry 2000 rounds, but must shoot it constantly for 15 minutes without supplies), what is the best LMG for the task?

I think M1919>DP-47>Bren>30-rounders (Bren, Type99)>20-rounders (BARs, FG-42)>MG42. What about you guys?

>>128322586
Just buy the 50mp ammo truck mang

>>128242419
fuck eugen for making the based chonma-ho completely useless despite slapping on an autocannon

>>128269594
where is the nighthawk?

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>>128242419
> hasn't discovered the hidden gem that are gobobyongs.

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>finally decide to play Wargame Red Dragon
>first game play as soviets
>10v10
>one guy on the other team has more hours invested in than our team combined
>game starts
>take left flank
>only 2 jeep-mounted faggots and a recon jeep on the field
>right flank collapses in 2 minutes
>jeeps kill a bradley
>jeeps kill a boat
>6 players leave
>jeeps get rocket artied
Fun, fun, fun.

>>128327447
why use them though

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>A COL AND A 2LT LOST TO 2 40% W/L AND A 50%
also join a3g for qualty arma

>>128328083
there is no a3g though

>>128327649
More like
>10v10
>6 people on your team quit right off the bat or randomly in the first 5 minutes.

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>>128327806
> fast
> cheap shock troop
> RR that hits most of the time even at 1225 thanks to vet
> 10 pt transport
> doubles as good city edge guards due to range of both mg and rr.
> more efficient than spamming boshongsu

>>128281592
>>128283831
just so everyone knows there is a torrent of the alpha version of this game

https://piratebay.to/torrent/1494393/East.Vs..West%3A.A.Hearts.of.Iron.Game

>>128311581
how do you mean?
the vehicle?

>>128313802
They've been working on missiles since 2012 as well.

>>128329094
Truth be told, ED hasn't really done anything for the past 10 years, ever since LOMAC was released.

Everything that's happened to LOMAC/FC/DCS seems to have been fueled or instilled by 3rd party content creators, rather then ED itself.

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>>128242419
Nice toaster senpai

>>128329965
Shit deck name, just to start this off.

>not naming your China deck "China will grow larger"

Foolish.

how do i host a 10v10 in red dragon?

>>128332372
You don't. You need to apply for a server from the devs, which you won't get.

>>128329965
>no BM-24

Why aren't you using CQB rocket arty?

>>128332854
Because I need something capable of launching smoke.

>>128332467
I thought they give you binaries to run on your own host.

>SH3
>100% realism
>it still automatically draws in ships on the map
>it still automatically gives your position on the map

Why? I can live with it drawing in my own position. But why does it draw in other ship's locations as well? You can determine the bearing and distance manually, so you can draw them in on your map manually.

>>128327358
I haven't gotten to prototype units yet. I realized my mistake after posting this.
>>128269594
I'm going to start work on redfor in like 4 hours if anyone wants to help me I would appreciate it alot.

>>128284397
you probably could've just looked at the supply cost

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east vs west. breddy fun

>>128333539
okay, i was wondering because the gbu is classed as saclos in game so i was thinking it might be under missle instead

>>128334256
i meant salh

>>128333516
If I remember correctly, they don't give you access to any of the tools you'd need to determine your own position, so auto-marking yourself is necessary. You are right though, I'm surprised they mark enemy boats. Is there another option somewhere? I know for SH5 all of the map options aren't with the realism settings but in the map settings.

I've never played the SH games, how realistic are they compared to DCS?

>>128249468
cause if you think you deserve a win that pissy then you need to get gud

>>128334140
How playable is it? and is it even worth bothering with?

>>128337070
It's a little difficult to compare a subsim game to a flight simulator. Basically you can hop between the different tasks on a sub or let your crew do the work for you. Most of the games have a modeled hydrophone system (although SH5's is bugged and needs a community patch), maps and charts to mark enemies and determine firing solutions, periscopes and the associated knobs for entering target information, and deck guns (which are pretty arcady). The real fun in the game for me come from IDing targets with the periscope by referencing books, determining target heading and speeds with a stop watch and angular measurements, and waiting that extremely long minute while you see if your torpedo was on target. Enemy boats have subsystems modeled, so you can shoot for the engines to disable or the ammo caches to make a big explosion. Unfortunately, SH5 has a HP model for enemy ships, but that can be modded.

In terms of avoiding detection, I think all the games model the thermal layer, and account for battery power, oxygen levels, and compressed air. The subs themselves also have damage models.

>>128334256
I'll get to it eventually. Just doing a little work every day.

>>128336353
I dont know what SH3 version you use but you can disable map contacts and they dont show up in game.

>>128337281
Not playable. /gsg/ is trying to fix the thing now and then. But:
>hardcoded shit

>>128338207
The most fun part of SH3 is commanding a type IIB into striking position of a British battleship. Then promoting and awarding medals to your crew once you sink it.

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>>128269861
>implying 50% acc 21 ap is a "very good atgm"
>implying it can fire both its 100mm and 30mm cannon
>implying 35pts is cheaper than 35pts
Hello urho.

I miss walb

>>128336353
>>128338921
I am probably not looking in the right place then.

Like I said, I don't mind my own position to be drawn in, simply because the game doesn't support that sort of navigation manually (triangulation at night would be very cool for instance).

I just want the enemies to not appear on the map so I have to determine everything myself, glad to hear I am mistaken and that I can indeed switch it off.

>>128339790
I thought subs positioned themselves with gyroscopes and shit. What's there to triangulate off of in the middle of the ocean?

>>128340405
Stars

>>128328745
Already downloaded when it was leaked, but I fon't have the heart to actually try and see what we'll never get. Any cold war mod for gs games?

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>>128339790
>I just want the enemies to not appear on the map so I have to determine everything myself, glad to hear I am mistaken and that I can indeed switch it off.
Thats possible to turn off. Under the realism settings in the campaign before you go on a mission.

>>128333516
>Why?
Because you didn't disable contact update and you're the captain, not the whole goddamn crew, determining your position should be the navigation/observation officers' job. If you want the enemy icons to be still active but not 100% accurate play NYGM.

>>128339790
>the game doesn't support that sort of navigation manually
If does if you mod it.

Also 100% realism is fucking retarded as it disable periscope stabilizing.

>>128337070
Modding the fuck out of them is mandatory with every installment:
SH3 has Living Silent Hunter 3 if you want to just have fun, GWX for a nice albeit ancient middle ground mod, NYGM if you're hardcore. You'll have to install other mods on top of those too (like HSIE's hardcoded fixes, a GUI that isn't total shit and tribute to manual targeting), look in the second to last thread for a small list I wrote. Or maybe I'll dig it up later, crosslink it here and maybe make a pastebin if I can be bothered with it, but only about SH3, I'm not too acquainted with SH4 and fuck SH5 as it's still buggy even with mods.

>>128338207
>I think all the games model the thermal layer
SH3 doesn't in vanilla.

>>128341748
I left periscope stabilization enabled, disabling it is actually removing realism, no matter what the game tells you.

and are there mods that model celestial navigation?

>>128342267
I would definitely be interested in having something organized for SH3. I've really only played 5 and would be glad to sacrifice some visual fidelity for an overall better experience. Tracking down the 'right' mods on subsim has been too great a barrier to entry for me though.

>>128342391
I'm not sure if there are mods for celestial navigation as I'm not too interested in it, however there are mods that add a sextant.

>>128339328
1. It's one of the best atgms
2. it can, though not at the same time.
3. yeah my memory let me down, but i put the correct data in the spreadsheet and the main hypothesis is still correct.

Learn how to read diagrams. :)

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>tfw you learn how to properly use the SPO-15

my survivability has increased twofold

>>128343697
Well if they added a sextant I assume they added celestial navigation, as there isn't much else you can do with the thing.

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>tfw no 40k real time wargame

>>128348673
It also was ""removed"" (read: hidden, but still usable) in one of the mod's updates.

>>128269594
>entendard
It's étendard. Pronounced ay-tahn-dar.

>>128350589
No it's pronounced
>retard

>>128312779
Not -every- category, some blufor tanks just barely win against similarly priced redfor tanks.

>>128327118
>kpvt
>autocannon

>>128327806
They have shock training, a good mg and a long range rr to bully non-tanks.

>>128329965
>no heliborne cv inf
>sf in helo
>base zhanshi
>tube arty
>wrong rocket arty
>no mortars
>no plane aa
>recon jeeps
>atgm jeeps
>no j-7h
>tfw no 3 elite j-8c

Anybody knows if the newest version of combat mission works with windows 10?

>>128347848
You can even shoot down dumb pilots in a Grach with it.

>>128354924
???
Isn't the SPO-15 a RWR? How do you shoot someone down with a RWR?

>>128355401
You can use it to out-fight a dumb pilot in an ASF even if you're flying a grach.

>>128355401
It's so heavy, if you throw hit an enemy plane wit hit it will rip it apart.

Are there some games where its possible to lead a single platoon or company in a bigger battle?

>>128359375
Closest to that is ArmA, or, I guess if you look at it a certain way, old squad-games like Brothers in Arms.

>>128359375
There's full spectrum warrior where you play as an american squad leader in a kind of third person shooter view.

>>128359643
>>128359606
Thanks I'm gonna look them up
it doesn't have to be a shooter

>>128359375
Red Orchestra?

>>128360261
Brothers in Arms in particular I highly recommend. Best squad franchise ever made, in my opinion.

>>128339328

The arkan is fantastic at bradley raping. It kills anything 7AV and below in one hit, which includes prickly things like M8 AGS and ADATS.

It' the cheapest 2800 ATGM thrower in the game, and while the stabilizer is bad, it does have one. Compared to other IFV's it gets 50% more ATGM's to shit out.

You might not think it's a big deal, but a gaggle of BMP-3's shitting ATGM's at you from 2800 is a pain to deal with.

>>128360261
Full Spectrum Warrior isn't actually a shooter, it's like an over the shoulder squad command game. Honestly it ends up playing more like a puzzle game because of the way it works. It's a game I find more "academically" game than actually fun, mostly because it's such a novel and unique approach to this kind of game.

They also included a mission of the US Army version of the game as a bonus, which was a little different and designed specifically for training soldier tactics.

It was a game for the OG Xbox though. I don't know if it got a PC port or anything.

>>128362494
I have it on steam, as well as ten hammer which I believe is the sequel.

>>128362494
>It's a game I find more "academically" game than actually fun
Oops, fucked that up in editing. I meant that it's a game I find more "academically interesting" than fun or especially good.

>>128362610
would you recommend it or its sequel?

>>128362385
I'm not saying it's bad, but "very good" is a qualificatif for the tow-2, hellfire or hj-9.

>>128362925
Honestly like pretty much anything on redfor it's meh, so you get a bunch of meh to make it ok.
But then eugene nerfed availability and prices are BS for all this meh.

>>128364152
This is why you use force multipliers comrade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIOIMw0QpAg

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>>128350017
>that picture
I love it.

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>Play WG:RD
>New Player
>Most New Players do 10v10's
>Hard to find some one who's played as few games as me for 1v1's or 3v3's etc.
>Do 10v10's
>Arty Spammers, and Dumbos always quit within first 15 minutes
>5v10 usually
>End up controlling units that are poorly positioned on failing flanks


Why can't there be a filter in public match making for quiters?

I just want to play a game without some fag quitting 10 minutes in.

>>128362925
the speed is what makes arkan a good atgm and the tow 2 a mediocre one. Tow 2 is only good on recon bradley which can survive the long-ass travel time, on anything else it's trash.

fast travel speed can even make something like chumat, which you'd think is trash because of its range, quite good. Its lack kills the tow

>>128367514
Welcome to wargame, enjoy your stay. Host lobbies called "newbies only" and clench long enough for you to get good and start actually enjoying the game. Alternatively, there used to be newbie games organized in the wgg steamgroup, just join the chat and ask.

>>128367710
The tow-2 is not any slower than every other saclos atgm.
Chu mat is very far from being trash at 60% acc. It's not any faster than other saclos atgm either, it just seems so because less range means less travel time.

In other terms, fuck off mosque.

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>>128311341
>you will never be russian

>>128367710
>the tow-2 is mediocre atgm because it doesn't have an arbitrary advantage over this single other one
>I mean, beside 20 more accuracy and 4 more AP

>>128370098
not to mention the tow 2 is available on a wide variety of platforms while the arkan is only there on the bmp-3 and, wait for it, a t-62 XDDDD

>>128370098
Also don't forget it's cheap as fuck and it has enough availability to fill a clowns pockets.

>>128350589

eugen pls go

>>128350589
Why would he go through the effort to put in the accent?

>>128372953
Because I have an azerty keyboard and as such the effort is minimal.

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>>128372953

Because >>128370693

>>128373073
4 u

>>128373354
You're a big autist.

>>128373073
>azerty

Why don't you just kill yourself.

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>>128373183
Truly a masterpiece.
>>128373490
I have immigrants to do that for me.

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>>128373470
>why didn't an American do this tiny thing that means nothing to 99% of people
>he should do this because it's easy for me to
>I'm not an autist

>Start SH3
>1941
>Get assigned a zone to the north of Ireland
>Go there
>Be impatient
>Plot course right of the coast of Ireland
>4 days after leaving Brest, sitting behind the hydrophone hoping to find me a tasty target
>Finally hear something
>It's warship
>Coming closer
>Take a quick periscope peek
>Destroyer, regrets were had
>Crashdive, rudder to full port then cut engines
>Sit and wait, still coming closer, going by the changes in his bearing on me he might pass though
PING
>His bearing on me is now constant and he is closing in, he knows where I am.
>Start engines, full ahead, align myself on the same course as him, 30 metres deep.
>Open two torp doors
ping ping ping ping ping ----silence---
>I blowout to surface
depth charges in water
>No matter, we are going up
>Get on the hydrophone, wait till I hear his props at bearing 0, then hear it at 5, he is turning.
>I am must be nearly scraping the bottom of his ship.
>Fire both torps, no time for precise input, just estimate that he is going full ahead and sharp turning starboard.
>This is all in the space of mere seconds
>Depth charges go off, aside from some rocking, no damage done.
>I get my periscope up as we are ascending, I can almost touch him.
>Not 5 seconds later, BOOM, torp hits
>Ship goes up in flames
Game crashes
epic, thx ubigay.

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>>128370067
I really don't mind.

>>128373918
I thought he was (you were?) baneposting.

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>>128373869
At least you can take the bantz

mump

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>>128374146
>>128373918
>>128373354
>>128372953
And then I realized that >>128372953 wrote "why would he go through the effort" and not "why would you go through the effort". Welp.

>page 10

>>128374030
>right of the coast of Ireland
>Crashdive, rudder to full port then cut engines
How fucking new to sub shit are you. If you don't have the right mods going in shallow waters is detrimental to you rather than destroyers. And please don't tell me you spent 4 days submerged.

Also why in the hell would you crashdive unless you're sure that the destroyer already saw you? In cases like that you go silent, dive until you're at like 40 meters, and only then start changing course. Also you got really lucky that the torps hit AND actually exploded.

>>128378732
Could he have used those magnetic fuses? Or do you still have to set the arming distance right with those too?

>>128378732
>>128378732
>How fucking new to sub shit are you. If you don't have the right mods going in shallow waters is detrimental to you rather than destroyers
I know, I wasn't THAT close to the coast.

>And please don't tell me you spent 4 days submerged.
No

>Also why in the hell would you crashdive unless you're sure that the destroyer already saw you?
I thought it unlikely that he hadn't located me.

>Also you got really lucky that the torps hit AND actually exploded.
Indeed, didn't make it any less satisfying though, cruising by a stones throw away as they join the fish.

>>128379965
I set impact fuses, both can dud though.

>>128378732
I was ~100km of the coast, with over 200m under keel.

>>128379965
Assuming you use mods like GWX or NYGM, both with HSIE and Stiabler's hardcoded fixes:

Magnetic fuses are best if not used AT ALL in SH3. Keels seem to very rarely break in two, so if the torp detonates your target will more often than not end up with sailing very low on the water, but without sinking (which means retarded deck gun attacks or having to waste another fish). You can't even set the "historically correct" depth for breaking ships' backs either because the torpedoes will not detonate if you do that. They also have the tendency of prematurely exploding if you fire them when there is bad weather (if you use the mods I listed, that's basically the only viable fuse if there is bad weather: if you fire the torpedo and a too shallow depth it will breach and sink, and the depth that causes the torp to breach is dependent on the wind's speed). And I'm talking about post norwegian campaign magnetic fuses. Pre norwegian campaign magnetic fuses might as well not exists.

All in all you're much better off if you just use impact fuses (those will almost always cause the target to list and eventually sink, even in shallow waters).
There are some exceptions I can think of such as:
1. You're GODLY with your firing solutions and you know the exact location of your target's boiler room. A magnetic fuse torpedo that detonates right below the boiler is practically guaranteed to take care of every civilian ship with one shot, but as I said you have to be REALLY good with your solutions.
2. Your target is a heavily armored battleship. In that case aim at the main guns. If the solution is good and you're lucky you can cause secondary explosions. You usually have some leeway with the solution too.
3. You stumbled upon a sailing boat/a fishing vessel or a fucking sampan. Pepper it with the AA gun then ram the piece of shit, that way you'll not only satisfy Poseidon but also get your tonnage.
(Cont)

>>128370098
>the tow 2 is available on 5 platforms, of which 1 is in use
>this other one is available on 2, of which 2 are in use

>>128383113
Admitting that you use t-62's tells a lot about your skill level m8.

>>128382414
4. You got yourself in a really tight situation, for instance it's late in the war, and you attacked a convoy while there's clear weather. The destroyer escort just won't fucking give up, they will rarely get fooled by your decoys, and maybe to top that off you can't go too deep because you took hull damage.
BUT, you have an acoustic guided torpedo. Why would you set it to magnetic fuse if they're unreliable? Because by the point you get those torps magnetic detonators will reliably work in good weather, and they will detonate even if they get close enough to the propellers (destroyers can easily outrun acoustic torpedoes because their speed is intentionally limited), and your goal isn't to sink the destroyer that is depth charging you - crippling its speed or disabling its engine outright is more than enough.

If you decide to use one of them, you should do the following: set it to run as shallow as the wind speed will allow it to (in the case we are considering there will barely be any wind at all), set the fuse to magnetic, go silent (you should already be in silent mode anyway unless you took damage and have to fix important shit or pump out water, and if you're reloading your torpedoes underwater while being hunted you're a fucking retard), fire it, VERY slowly dive to 25 meters, change course while keeping your speed very low (manually set it to 1 knot, any more than that and the torp could very well start following you rather than its intended target).

Also crash diving is a sure way to give away your position to nearby destroyers. I tend to use it only if I visually spot a plane or I bump in an enemy ship while sailing during really limited visibility.

>page 10

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Who wanted SEAD times?
I took a break from my bomber tests to do them for you.

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Any changes to make?

>>128387796
>puff
>56
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED

>>128388142
Ikr?
My experiments might be kinda flawed though. The times are based on them destroying one target, so those that fire 2 missiles at a time are going to have pretty high times.

>>128387813
>cv inf not in helo
>upvetting infantry
>upvetting adats
>no shock recon
>lav-25 in the vehicle tab instead of the recon tab

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>>128387796
>That TORNADO ECR supply time

>>128389383
>150pts
>only use is flinging itself against it's counters
>if everything goes perfectly and you fire off both pairs, you can only use it every 6 min
No wonder it and the MiG25BM are complete shit

>>128387796
Are you sure about the feibao values?

>>128389741
That and the South Korean one are ones I had my friend do for me.
That's the number he gave me.
Why?

>>128390721
Since its missiles are pretty high tier I'd expect its rearm time to be similar to the ecr and mig-25bm. Would you mind doublechecking?

>>128390935
Unlike bombers I need a partner to help me do those since I need him to put out radar aa.
I'll gladly do it when I get ahold of someone again.

>>128390935
Yea idk what he did but it is actually 199.
I've corrected my data. Thanks for catching that.

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>>128394163
One of the worst jets of the cold war.

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Only 1 blufor bomber was unable to destroy the test target.

>>128395178
What the fuck. They work perfectly when I use them. By the way you can shift-click to make it fire both missiles with about 1sec in between them.

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>>128395361
That was it's second trial. The first was the same result.

Redfor has already had one fail.

>>128395916
I have had that happen with the Mig25 bomber or GDR. 8 500 kg bombs dropped completely around the target. Fuck that plane.

>>128362718
Not him but def play the original first. The sequel is kind of different. But I loved full spectrum warrior it was one of my fondest military games as a kid. I actually replayed it maybe 6 months ago

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>>128397727
That's why I started this project. Some bombers look good on paper but just suck in practice.
I'm enjoying the work so far and hoping for a good final result.

>page 10

>>128395149

(you)

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>>128246350

underrated post

>>128403482
Nothing I said was wrong.

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>>128403939
>>128395149

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>>128246427
>the f-35 is actually going to be a successful fighter
>fighter

>>128404984
It better fucking be given how much it already costed.

>>128400462
You know meme doesn't mean effective, every vehicle isn't meme just because it can do what it was designed to do, like a bomber killing soft targets is pretty damn obvious. So are Tiger tanks destroying medium and light tanks.

>>128279796
how do you even set up joystick buttons as modifiers?
is it a feature of that joystick or can I reply it on my thrustmaster x?

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>>128405072
it's an allright plane but it was born an attacker. Just superimpose the mental image of a Frogfoot on pic, it even got the shval.

In mah cunt we are gonna buy them to scrap our old attackers.

AMRAAMs were slapped even onto Harriers, didn't make them super hurrduurr 5th generation fighters that shoot down flocks of enemies

>>128403482
If the MiG-23 is so good how come the SU preferred the MiG-21 to it?

>>128406321
Its a software feature, you can do it in DCS, its like holding down the shift key on a keyboard.

>>128406321
DCS has a way of setting a button as a modifier. I'm not sure how all of that works though, which is why I asked for someone to upload the configuration file so I don't have to struggle with it and can conserve my efforts for actually learning how to use the planes.

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>>128407542
>>128407617
thanks, I could actually use it. I always set my buttons to silly shit and I tell to myself 'oh if I could only use it as modifier ...'

>tfw this option is not on BMS
>tfw no F-16

>>128407817
pretty sure it can be done in BMS you just have to jump through 1000 flaming hoops to make it happen, also try your sticks software.

>>128407617
use the "modifiers" button on the lower left in the controlls for the intended aircraft
then select the modifier when binding a key (simply clicking it works)

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>>128407617
Here is an example, I just created a new modifier the letter "g" on my keyboard, you select the device where the modifier is coming from then the button itself, you can select it from a drop down menu or just press it. Once its created, you push the modifier+whatever button for the binding.
I also included an example of a modifier I already have in place for the F-15C, in this case "JOY_BTN4", you can then see what I have "JOY_BTN4+JOY_BTN24" bound to and also what I have "JOY_BTN24" bound to on its own.
Keep in mind you have to recreate a modifier for each module.

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>>128246427
>F-35 mentioned
oh boy here we go

>>128410175
I don't get how people think that a country that spends 70-80 bn a year on its military is going to keep pace technologically and qualitatively with a country that spends 575-600+ bn a year on its military

sp SH5 is a shit I guess, what about SH4?

Or should I just go with SH3

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>>128410910

>>128410175
>i made a bingo so i can dismiss legitimate arguments en mass no matter their legitimacy

>>128411631
Nice try but you can't equate that at all

Technology moves at a much faster pace today compare to 2000 years ago, let alone the fact you can't equate the two scenarios

>>128411972
That's why any shithole can spend 1000 times less to develop only ICBM's, still fuck everyone's shit up, and you can't do anything with it no matter how much you spend on tech.

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>conduct several successful grach runs on convoys
>land safely at home
>decide to F2 around and see what everyone else is doing
>mfw a mig 21 dogfights an f-15 and wins

>>128395178

Last I checked AGMs are pretty expensive. Someone needs to have a chat with that aviator.

>>128412263
Except any shithole can't go and develop ICBMs.

Its unconfirmed that North Korea even set off an atomic bomb, let alone one at all, and it took them 60 years.

What any shithole can do is irrelevant anyways because I was comparing US and Russian military expenditure.

>>128412587
>Wishthinking
A typical form of psychological defence mechanism.
Sometimes it's just very hard to face facts.

>>128412879
>Wishthinking
What the hell are you talking about

And there haven't been any facts presented to face

>>128413031
>north koreans haven't shown me their nuclear bomb or videos of it. Therefor it's probably not real.

Does anyone have a CMANO torrent? I have the one with the patcher but it doesn't work anymore.

>>128410960
There will never be a U-boat sim as good as SH3.

>>128413235
Why aren't there any modern submarine sims of the same quality?

>>128413123
Show me where I said its probably not real. I said there is no confirmation on whether or not it was actually a bomb.

Please read

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Is this a thing that /wgg/ likes?

>>128413381
>is it a wargame?
>is it content?
>is it not weeb/arma shit?

If the answer to all these is yes, then yes.

>>128413128
I need this too.

>>128411631
>Comparing modern day military expenditure with ancient roman military expenditure.

ayyyyy

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Standing Naval Force Atlantic is tasked with conducting anti-submarine warfare operations in the North Atlantic. Time to go hunting.

>>128413658
If any shitty analogy can be made the collapse of the Soviet Union and post-Soviet Russia are more similar to the collapse of the Roman Empire than anything else.

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Does Aurora count as a wargame?

how do I git gud at GTOS
legit only battle I've won was defencive with russians where I had absolute superior position on an hill overlooking a huge flat area.

Right now i'm defending the sokolvna or whatever village in the 1942 summer campaign, I have superior reverse slope positioning, well planned out MG firing lines and i've cut down drowes of natzhees but I'm getting fucked by arty

>>128414019
Someone in /ss13g/ named it for me

>>128413876
Did you buy the game or torrent it?

>>128413270
>Why aren't there any modern submarine sims of the same quality?

Because Ubisoft.

>>128414116

I spent actual money.

>>128414243
Damn, son.

>>128414056
Yea sorry I was mixing my translation anyways

Raumshiff means spaceship, still kinda generic

Try these if you want German ship classes

Weltgeist
Kastellan
Eintracht
Wiesheit
Demut
Blauwald
Wächter
Entwicklung
Hochburg
Entschluss
Ehrfurcht
Trutzburg
Gemüt
Schwerweg
Wahrheit
Belohnung
Hochachtung
Streben
Zenit

Or of course just go for WWI/WWII naming conventions

>>128414298
My naming convention isn't actually german, it's religious
My empire has Knights Templar theme
Like my other ship classes are Guardian, Pilgrim, Clairevoix, Quest, etc

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Hello kameraden
please hit me with the criticism stick again. I plan to use this for 2v2s and 3v3s on forested terrain with some clearings. Mostly expecting to fight blufor motos, maybe a longbow and mi-24 swarms.

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So the Patrol Areas have been marked. CINCLANT wants non-aggressive EMCON. Time to start dropping sonobuoys everywhere. Minimal threat of Russian aircraft in the area but there are radar installations all over Norway that should give me at least a decent heads up. Problem there is a lack of a carrier group or really anything that could carry out an intercept.

For some reason I have been given access to nuclear weapons, although I am being told I am not authorized to use them. Huh.

>>128413913
>shitty analogy

Why would you compare it then?
The UdSSr was nothing like the Roman Empire in terms of well just about anything.
Just because they are both failed Empires?

Oh and I think there is a slight difference between collapsing because of internal problems and being overrun by Goths.

Is Northern Inferno CMANO + an extra campaign? Or is it a limited CMANO?

>>128414583
>anything that could carry out an intercept.
couldn't you atleast get starfighters operating from Bodo?

>>128413658
>Most civilised
>Cultural Imperialism
>Investment in military nobody else could even dream of
>Biggest standing army
>Policy makes them increasingly unpopular amongst other countries while also making regular people jealous of their living standards.

I think US has a lot of similarities with the Roman Empire.
I guess the Roman Empire had the advantage that they didn't personally teach the Goth to make all their technology, then ship all their skilled labour to Germania.