XCOM General - /xcg/

Modded soon

EZ mode baby game confirmed.

pistols are useful

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3rd for human only waifus

What stream is everyone talking about? I can't find the current one.

inb4 xcom 2 design/story/aliens is shit

>>127957690
miss_jamball

>>127957569

Why didn't they bring her back? ;__;

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>>127957428

Oh yeah I forgot about that.

>>127957746
>implying she won't be back with her volcano alien rape cave from the book
Someones gotta probe these aliens assholes and Tygan certainly aint

So beagle said he would give out his ini tweaks close to release. So if you are really worried about the difficulty you can ramp it up on day one.

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>>127957692

Judging by how similar the style of those posts are, I'm fairly certain half of them are JL.

>Beagle thinking of boosting squad sizes and pod sizes

absolute

madman

>>127957992
Honestly, XCOM is always more fun and interesting when you're fighting more aliens with more dudes.

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Beagle having an orgasm over potential mods

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>>Bagle has not done ANYTHING about Project Avatar.

This demo may have a time limit but it still seriously annoying seeing that red bar getting more and more filled with him not doing a single thing about it.

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>first terror mission had zombies, chrysalids, and floaters
>wiped out my squad and my best soldiers
>lose hope but push on, eventually start getting back up there
>special mission to reduce panic in newfoundland, take it because NA is in the red
>abandoned fishing village full of, you guessed it, chrysalids and zombies
>do a pretty great job sweeping the place until 2 chrysalids just ambush me and wipe out two men, my up-and-coming best soldiers
>now infinite chrysalids start to spawn, have to rush to place airstrike beacon
>have to rush back to LZ
>one of my men activates the beacon and dies trying to get out
>last soldier manages to evac and the place goes up in flames

then most recently,
>my heavy Zhang from the story gets bugged and stuck in a wall
>dies to floaters
>floater oneshots my other soldier
>finally clear the bullshit mission and come back to two more countries in panic

am i gonna make it

gauss BRRRTTT gives me a fucking boner

#REKT

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>>That whole Overwatch.

It was so good it was scary to watch.

I don't know why beagle is even using stocks. He just doesn't fuckikng miss.

beagle is so out of control the aliens actually seem like they're behind.

keep in mind the December missions we saw were in April and the aliens had several Mecs, turrets, etc. on each mission and even a Muton here and there. they can barely afford to field Sectoids and Vipers right now

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Did that Overwatch hit with a Shotgun?!

this is literally EW Easy tier

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>>These EXPLOSIONS
>>Beagle's lughter.
>>THIS WHOLE MISSION

ouch...

Dude, that propane explosion.

VIGILO CONFIDO
VIGILO CONFIDO
VIGILO CONFIDO

>hurr the game is too easy
watch him fail on the geoscope nerds

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>Ayys get absolutely demolish
>Not a single one managed to get a shot off
>100% shots fired hit

?

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This is surely a regular showing of legendary difficulty. Fucking beagle luck.

>>127959087
He literally can't, preview ends in 2 weeks

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>"if I could do it all again-"
>All those explosions

VIGILO CONFIDO

>two enemies hide behind propane tanks on top of an explosive vehicle
only for beagle

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>>127959087

This. He has been avoiding the main stuff for too long. Not to mention this wouldn't be the first time he misses the ball in the Strategic Layer.

I hope that guy from the Firaxis stream who balances Legendary is watching

>>127958496
This reminds me vaguely of Cave Story.

>>127957992
>>127958065
>All-Out War mod
>Literally just squad sizes of 16 facing off against a single pod of 24 tier 2 ayys

Isn't he getting 75% faster build and excavate times though?

Where's the excel sheet for use when it comes to figuring out what class to pick for a soldier depending on their stats as a rookie?

How high should aim be when deciding between sniper and scout?

>>127959512
yes

>>127959512
Yeah, he wouldn't have the extra squad size, special equipment, or the AWC done by now. Maybe one or two.

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>>When was the last time you ever saw a cow?

Good question.

>>127959512
Only for rooms

>>127959478
So original x-com?

This memeing is off the fucking chain

>>127959517
Scout should be high mobility and defense. Sniper is usually the high aim soldiers who have other poor stats.

>ADVENT is Diamond Dogs

>>127959727
But with large amount of ayys in a single pod.

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>community whines about Xcom2 being too easy after seeing Beagle play it
>Firaxis bumps the difficulty up
>Release day comes, XCom2 rapes the shit out of everyone

IT'S THE TFTD DEBACLE ALL OVER AGAIN

>7 kills in one turn by one unit
Oh fucking hell

quickdraw -> lightning hands -> fan fire -> (psi operative inspires) -> face off

Pistols

Are

Useful

>Those things

YOU'RE

PISTOL BEST WEAPON IN THE GAME CONFIRMED

Hooooooly fuck

'MURICA

Holy shit

SHALALALASKA CONFIRMED

>XCOM2 30 bucks on cdkeys.com

worth it?

>plasma rifle hits for 4 damage
uh....

>>127960758
>not buying the digital deluxe edition
If you're gonna pre-order at least do it right

>>127960758
>buying a non-multiplayer game off cd sites

why? you might as well pirate. Plus you are supporting people who hack people's accounts.

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>>All those shots.
>>All those hits.
>>All that USEFULNESS.

It's High Noon. Every Time. All the Time.

FUTBOL

noob here doing the first run

i just build a firestrom, how do i use it?

will it just come to aid when big ufo is in sight?

>>127961301
One of the only Beagle memes I dislike Tbh

>>127961538
>Firestorms are another kind of Interceptor, you can launch them against UFOs like you would an Interceptor.

>>127961538
When you select a plane to fight a UFO, it shows up there.

Its the exact same as the basic plane, just better

>>127961538
it takes up a slot in your HQ hanger, you can move it to other hangers through the hanger menu. It function identically to an interceptor and you choose to use it like when you choose to use an interceptor.

>Pizzopod

Jesus Christ Bagel, get your shit together

The new mutons look... weird.

>Beagle is a pro-muzzie cuc k
enrich my shit up

DAWKINS BTFO

Beagle YES

When was the last time Beagle entered an actual engagement and just didn't bait Concealment/Phantom Overwatches? This is boring.

They should give aliens means to clear out this overwatch spam.

Like imagine if the Muton just tossed a grenade at Beagle's bunched up squad instead of breaking for cover.

>>127962543
so we've been enduring the drawbacks of vanilla pod mechanics for good reason?

>>127962745
Yes.
Turns out this mechanic is fucking ass and makes the game incredibly easy. Like, this is easier than the easiest difficulty on EU, and I'm not even exaggerating. Beagle has gotten shot ONCE this entire campaign.

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>>127962009

Yeah. They kind of lost something on translation.

>Venom/AP/Fire rounds apply to pistols
>apply to Face Off
That's it, the game is literally broken. This desperately needs patched.

>>127962839
Good thing the ini exists then faggot

Seriously people need to stop bitching about difficulty. You can literally make it as hard as you want.

>>127962921
they obviously spliced horse penis into their spine/head structure

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>>127961220
>It's High Noon.

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>>127963060
>mods will fix it!

>>127963223
Mods literally will fix it.

>>127963060
People are also forgetting that Beagle has a ton of experience with the first 3 months at this point.

>>127963396
His build times are also heavily bumped. He should still be using the standard weapons at this point.

>>127963485
No he shouldn't. The only times he bumped are room build times

>>127963586
Which is giving him a load of supplies and alloys to make those weapons.

>>127963668
Good point, forgot about that
Although on lower difficulties TB had stuff like EXO-suits, plate and mag weapons by this point, but again, lower difficulty

is there such a thing as having too much dakka?

BRRRRRRRT

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Boy these ADVENT MECs are going down fast.

They really need to step up their game.

>>127963886
No.

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Holy shit that suppression sound and shaking.

>>127963396
Legendary should be balanced with the expectation that you have experience..
I/I LW isn't a piece of cake even if you have experience.

>>127963886
>too much dakka

I'm gonna sock you in the schnob mate.

50 gigs of devtools released? Bullshit, no way.

>Elitist babies mad that their super secret club game will be accessible to people who have a life and friends.

People shouldn't have to poor 400 hours into this game to be able to beat the hardest difficulty.

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>50 gigs of SDK

wew lad

>>127964383
Shit tier bait

>standard Legendary
>Beagle breezes through it
>Legendary+
>Beagle squadwipes every second mission

Welp.
I'm happy to hear that the devs are still balancing the difficulties, and that they'll be making Legendary much more difficult. I just hope they can strike that fine line between the current one and what Beagle made for himself.

>>127964383
It's accessible to normal people at normal. How is this not obvious to you?

>>127964339
>>127964405
been confirmed for months lads

Oh fuck shit son Beagle, watch for collateral damage, COLLATERAL DAMAGE.

Can you collapse entire buildings? I assume so, otherwise they would float off the ground if you destroyed all the supporting walls.

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>We have to keep killing. I haven't stopped killing yet.

This is the longest overwatch I've ever seen.

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>>127965068

You almost feel sorry for the Aliens.

Almost.

/r/ neo thinmint

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>Enemies Killed: 26/26

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>workshop support
praise allah

Reminder that he has had ONE ROOKIE
ONE
shot this entire campaign.

>>127958180

happy now?

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>>Taking on the Project Avatar missions can decrease the overall advance of the aliens.

That a relief to hear.

>>"Commander there are Interceptor UFO hunting for the Avenger. We need to be careful with our flight paths."

AIR GAME SOON.jpg

>>127966221
>he still has hope
hahahahahahaha

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>>127966045

Very.

>quick mission
Well prepare for squadwipe

>Jamball aggro

this never stops being funny

GOING AT THE SPEED OF DEATH

>>127966849
JUST TEN MORE MINUTES MOM!

chat sure thinks little of jambal

>le hilarious henpecked male

It's just like one of my American sitcoms!

>>127967254
Yeah, it's getting old.

God damn it beagle, you're like a child

>>127967243

Jamball honestly needs to unJUST herself. From what little I've seen, she's breddy based, but she has some shit she needs to get over and work out

Well once some balance issues get sorted out this game will be fucking great.

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>>127966291

Never Lose Hope.

>>127967443

That was 'weird' to put it lightly.

Jamball is such a bitch

>>127967529
Yeah, I hope some balance tweaks are made before launch so modding isn't required to have a good time but even if it's piss easy all that's needed is number tweaks.

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>>127967512
>From what little I've seen, she's breddy based

yes jambal

we all know women hate seeing men have fun

>>127967667

I said little...

Pls no bully

Stream is Over.

>>127967512
>Jamball
>based

Hi Jamball! Get the fuck out!

What was the hidden ability?

Just watched the TB preview. Seems really fleshed out, and seems to have a ton of features and new additions, so I'm excited.

I haven't followed Xcom2 news closely, so are there any decent previews/news I can check out?

>overwatch hit 100%
did they remove the penalty or what

how did beagle get his screen name anyway? I know he used to be in shactac but nothing else

>>127967667
>>127967852
She does run a good DnD campaign...
There's no rational discussion to be had concerning Jamaball

>>127967942

Ever Vigilant

soldier can spend all their actions and still go on overwatch

>>127967960
When its a concealment ending overwatch, yes

>>127967942
basically ready for anything. Don't move and you go into overwatch at the end of the turn.

I wasn't watching, what happened in the stram?

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>>127968028

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>stop playing that game or no sex

And that's why you stay away from 3DPD.

>>127968028
That's OP as fuck.

>>127968054
rfa procs on firing tho

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>>127968028

Missed that one. Thanks.

>>127968125
that was why i said basically and explained it, instead of just saying literally ready for anything.

>>127967942
>EVER VIGILANT
>If you spend all of your actions on moves, you are granted an automatic overwatch shot at the end of the turn.

So I guess not if you move and then shoot? You can basically double move into an overwatch position.

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>>127968061

You mean at the end? Beagle basically has run all the 3-Month limit of the demo but, for the last mission, he was in a real life time limit because some Jamball stuff she wanted right at that moment.

Beagle run that last mission on record time despite Jamball literally breathing down his neck the whole time.

Beagle wa Yuusha de Aru.

>>127968102
my negro

Anyone else feel like the change to overwatch (no wasted shots) has made it too strong?

So, new player with a problem.

I have full satellite coverage over South America, but saved the game right before an alien battleship decided to come in the bully everyone. The problem is I can't shoot it down because I only have basic interceptors so it inevitably raises the panic in one of the countries to max.

Do countries still leave if they have a satellite over them? That seems kinda silly.

>>127968418
To be fair it was like dog stuff, and he said something about it's teeth rotting out?

>>127968564
They will still leave. Just engage with an interceptor and then run away instantly. I think the game counts that as attempting to do something and the panic is less. Just spam click on the abort button.

>>127968565
The dog is probably old as dirt or something.

>>127968102
>Beagle will spend the next several days fawning and debasing himself for the privilege of being able to sleep in his own bed again

Seriously though he's dangerously addicted to Xcom 2

>>127968565
To be REALLY fair, Beagle knew for a fact they had plenty of time before the store they needed to go to closed, but Jamball insisted they didn't and wouldnt say why, because basically, she's a bitch.

>>127968783
>wants to be on time
>this means she's a bitch
oh you people.

>>127968767
Why sleep in bed when you can play Xcom 2?

>>127968783
So it was a dispute over when the store closed?

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>>127930760

So laser sword are going to be a thing after all. Do we know that's the tech tier that follows Mag/Gauss yet?

>>127968931
You sound like one of Beagle's sycophant twitch mods that get super aggro on anyone that suggests Jamball isn't the most awesome person in the world. Go sit on a dick.

>>127969147
I'd say it's laser.

>>127969172
>Go sit on a dick.
I'm sure he does

It's Saturday. The store would most likely close around 5/5:30.
It was only 4 when Jamball started insisting they leave. They still had over an hour and she was being a bitch cause he wanted to spend 5 minutes finishing the final mission.

>>127969172
I just haven't seen this evidence of the "horrifying monster" that Jambal is. Half the time its just people bitchin about the smallest things. And I as I already mentioned I enjoy their DnD nights that Jambal DMs. People are so nosy about other peoples relationships and like to bring their excellent insights.

>>127969045
No it was a power struggle and a battle of wills
Beagle established his dominance and won the fight but I fear Jamball ultimately holds the upper hand in this ongoing war

>>127969486
Well shit, haha, alright then.

>>127969457
It's just the typical 'lads vs gf/wife' dynamic where both sides want to monopolize Beagle
Also one of the sides consists of thousands of online nerds

>reinforcement pack

So this is a season pass?

>>127970060
/y

I really want them to release some sort of character builder so that I can build my pool before the game comes out and so we can start exchanging them.

Why do people say the viper is the true form of the thin men?
Like I get it would be a more original state,
I'm not disputing wither vipers came from thin men or not,
but after being heavily spliced with humans for however long, wouldn't it make sense that some human-eqse features would be retained?
Also does anyone remember what the research on the says?

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>>127969457
Does this look like a monster to you?

>>127970192
So, will this replace any future expansions? I guess this is the games Enemy Within?

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>>127969186

Same here.

>>127970325
Well its Vipers->thinmen->Vipers.
The research is codenamed Viperus and it specifically mentions reptillian eyes and snake like orgins

>>127970438
Looks like its enemy within, specially since it introduces a new class and missions.

>>127970436

eww

>>127970436
Looks like a fucking bloke. My grandmother has less of a mustache.

>>127970325
Vipers resemble terrestrial snakes way too much to be aliens
Both them and Thin Men are probably completely unnatural creations.

>>127970436
She looks quite manly. I see the subtle seeings of a stash.

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Just a reminder

Vipers are probably full of delicious eggs

About to do a Vanilla EW campaign, should I turn on training roulette or are there some cool vanilla builds I can do?

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>>127970838

>>127970861
Turning on training roullette is likely to make your campaign more difficult. The base classes are strong. Only turn on roullette for fun run.

>>127970571
Okay, I thought I remember them being reptilian and ...malleable? elastic? on a genetic level.
I just figured this form is closer to it's original state with human bits left over (what with everyone else getting human bits too), then I saw people throwing a bitch fit about it's lack of realism, and wanted to settle things before responding.
Thank you anon,

>>127970709
Wait, what?

Pistols are pistols

>>127970941
>lack of realism
Yeah, its pretty silly to get worked about realism on x-com/xcom titles. They are also a throwback to snakeman from the orignal see >>127970838

>>127971104
Oh yhea, That I know actually.
I was very excited to see all of that

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>>127970436
They're perfect for each other.
Large manly jamball and skinny skeleton beagle.

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>>127971045

They are also very Useful.

>>127971325
He has to wear the wig and turn on the webcam more often.

>>127967992
What's wrong with her? I've literally never heard of her.

>>127971516
Just watch Beagle's/Jambals streams and form your own opinions. Alot of people don't like her.

>Digital Deluxe
>£20 on Nuuvem

Guess I have to pre-order now.

>>127971717
That can feed the bellies of many Russian family member.

>twitch tv/escapistmagazine/v/34311502
>at 2:17:49 you can see the first second of the game over cutscene and then - once you sit through him waving his hands annoyingly - see his reaction to watching it.
>"This is definitely how XCOM 3 starts."

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EVACUATE
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>>127971940
Why the hell are there only four people on your skyranger?

>>127972030
He hasn't unlocked the academy squad size upgrades yet :^)

>>127971865
Won't deny that.

Just letting people know. It's £20 vs £47 (steam), or £30~ for game+season pass via key sites.

>finally get around to trying long war
>first mission has 10 sectoids, and they have damage reduction
>squaddies are equipped with fucking worthless AP grenades so my attempts to clear cover are useless
>manage to win anyway
>nothing happens for a week
>first UFO contact; large ship, which I let my interceptor plink at then give up when it lands a return hit
>literally 1 second of scanning later another UFO shows up in the same area, interceptor is damaged so I can't chase it
>nothing happens for 3 weeks
>china gets taken over
>council mission, rescue van doorn
>sectoids have more HP, also a thin man shows up and 1-shots my rocket dude
mods didn't fix it

>>127972727
either git gud or go into you INI files and mess with shit till its to your liking. It's what i did.

>>127972140
Hey man as long as you get your game that's all that matters.

>>127972727
>Does everything wrong
>Blames mod
Just saying, literally everything you listed here was a bad move or your just not aware of how the mod works. Go into the ini and half the repair times for interceptors. Also turn on the second wave option Commander's choice. And read the Long War FAQ in the OP.

>>127972845
Which inis? There's a fucking million of them.

>>127972030
Because i forgot to assign.

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>>127973021
Default Game Core

>>127973110
Step it up commander

>>127973021
Step one: Get Notepad++ if you don't have it already. Its not necessary but makes it far less of a headache.

Step two: Find DefaultGameCore.INI, it should have enough comments for you to figure out the rest. If you still have questions go to the FAQ in the OP. There are a few things you can't do with the inis, namely the air game, but they are still moddable once you learn how.

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Can we have more than 6 guys per squad yet

>>127973376

Mods

>>127973376
Yes.

Using psi to control aliens and stuff

>>127973376
og x-com

>>127973376

bagel said he could easily up the squad size

>>127973447
I wonder if Firaxis would be okay with him posting his DCG.ini on pastebin and linking it to the public.

>>127973615
Probably not, there are enough variables in there that it would probably have a spoiler or two.

>>127973615
I tried asking him twice in stream and he didn't answer. I wouldn't expect him to be able to share it anyway with the NDA or whatever agreement he has with 2k.

>>127973615
He said he'd probably do it closer to the release date.

>>127973447
The first thing I mod will be starting the game with six soldiers and making the upgrades be for 7 and 8 soldiers and then upping the pod strength by three or four.

More soldiers more better.

Beags is probably tired of having people try to wheedle xcom2 related shit out of him

Imagine being bothered 24/7 by impatient kids that want you to fuck up your relationship with Firaxis and any future possibilities of early access just so they can spoil themselves a month early
One fucking month

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>>127974232
No shutup I want my xcom now now now now
What prompted you to even post this>

>>127974232
Price of doing business. He makes money off of doing streams and XCOM 2 is helping him get more viewers. If he didn't want people to bug him he wouldn't tell them he had a demo copy. But he did so tough shit. Ignoring people on the internet isn't the hard anyway. So unless there is some sort of Taken situation with Jamball he really doesn't have much to bitch about.

>>127974376
>So unless there is some sort of Taken situation with Jamball he really doesn't have much to bitch about.

I predict their future wedding will be crashed by a group of armed men dressed up as Exalt

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>>127974537
>yfw beagle planned it all
The ultimate themed wedding, people actually die... just like in xcom

>>127962745
It's more to do with the huge Overwatch buff in 2 from them being consecutive now. Scenario: single enemy steps through a door into 6 Overwatches

>EU
>all 6 soldiers shoot and likely kill the enemy, the rest of his crew step past him

>2
>1-2 soldiers shoot and kill him, the other 4 are ready to kill more aliens

Something is strange with beagles game.
I watched the total buscit video and some lifestream from another guy and they get more difficult enemies than beagle.

One guy i saw yesterday played on "Commander" difficulty and got Advanced ADVENT Troopers with 8HP, ADVENT Officers with 10HP, pods with one Viper and 2 sectoids.

What got Beagle ? The same pods every mission with only one boss in a pod and the low HP ADVENT soldiers we see March 1.
Maybe he messed something up with his build or he have an older one.

Is it better to go for cash or engineers?

>>127975716
You daly advents tech progress by doing specific missions from what i know.

So he probably was more sucessfull on his missions than TotallShitter and the other guy.

>>127975716
If build and excavate times are longer in legend then it's safe to assume aliens have longer times until they get upgrades.

>>127975798
engis in most cases, unless its past the first few months and you're strapped.

>>127975798
engineers. You need them to keep building sat uplinks to control panick.

>>127975878
*delay

Fuck i need some sleep.

>>127975798
engineers, because you spend cash for workshops to give you engineers and getting them directly just skips that foreplay

>>127975593
doesn't help that they decided to give everyone opportunist and lnl for no good reason

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THOUGHTS

>>127975976
>no good reason
>opportunist
I thought that was only when concealment was up
>lnl
Timed missions

>>127976168
>I thought that was only when concealment was up
yes, but its still a pretty major buff, if you took the EU system and removed the part where activated pods get to move to cover, it would be LESS abusable since you'll still get one free shot per dude but at least you don't get to position perfectly before it.

>>127976124
gimpsuit/10

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>>127976124
2 minutes in MS Paint

>Mutons on Normal: 8 health, 1 armor
>Mutons on Legendary: 8 health, 1 armor
Did they just forget to balance them or something? They're like one of the least intimidating enemies now.

>>127976124
Spooky

>>127976124
sex machines

And atleast it's not furryshit.

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Pure melee class when?!

>>127976653
I just want Axes on mz rangers so i can go full BARBARIAN style upon thy ayylien scum.

>>127976316
They caved in somewhat to babies that went aboohoo over the free turn aliens get on discovery. Now you are almost guaranteed to annihilate the first pod you encounter and without fast reinforcements to overwhelm the defenders making it easy to dig in and demolish.

You'll need to either 1) Make pods patrol overlap and aggro at the same time if close enough to one another or 2) Account for this and throw in one extra pod

>>127976124
It's valen transformed by the aliens.

I checked Nuuvem but it's unavailable in my country (Amerifat).
Would using a VPN to try work around that limitation have reprecussions when I use the game? It seems to activate through steam so they might realize that I jewed their jewery, but do you think they'd act on it?

>dig in
Timed objectives, with airdropped reinforcements.

>>127976958
Not fast enough to overwhelm the defenders actually. The avenger defense mission had them drop in pairs which were slaughtered the momment their feet touched the LZ and by the time they drop in 4s, the guy had already cleared out the area and was ready to finish. Reinforcements that can break an entrenched player need to be big heavy shit way above your tech level in order to do anything.

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>>127976124

It begins

>>127976924
Steam supports having games only active in certain regions, so I wouldn't try it if I were you. You could end up with a game that only works in the Gulags.

>>127976924
From what I remember, Valve doesn't give a shit if you use VPN to activate a game early.

>>127977165
But what if I use a VPN to get the game for less than half price?

>>127977090
>snakes with tits
>/hm/ Egyptian male model aliens
>orange female alien in a gimpsuit
>advent troops have dick sucking lips

What's going on with this game?

>>127977090
Is it supposed to look like Killer Queen with some King Crimson?

>>127977224
I'm sure they give a shit about that.

>>127977090
>dat boob dirigible

>>127977249
The art director is a freak

>>127977249
Don't forget about penis-head muton and stupid sexy sectoid ass.

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>>127976742

I'm not in my PC right now but someone already make a Power Axe model a while ago.

>>127977090
Now to wait for some decent rule 34.

Would just making pods 2 aliens/1 Advent or 2 aliens/2 Advent balance the early game?

>>127977090

You forgot tentacles.

I think they have some fetishes. They even exhibit questinable art of the snek on a wall in the office.

>>127976552
Yeah, the balancing looks really strange, but they work on it. The builds are from mid-December or maybe even earlier.

>>127977716
Considering what aliens can do, no.

>Keep bringing rookies on missions
>They keep turning out to be either snipers or supports

Send aid

>>127976552
Remember, they didn't want to balance them by just inflating their health and armor. Aliens are also suppose to have abilities that make them more dangerous. Mutons are the ranger equivalent now, so they get a melee attack.

Who knows what other stuff they get, maybe Legend offers them a few more perks then they would normally have. Like Reaper.

>>127978308
I'll send you support :^)

>>127977717
Fair enough if that's the case. I remember the Blacksite stream that took place roughly a month after the press journalist ones (event was in November, the NDA on it just broke mid-December) had changed health numbers on enemies. I'll wait to judge for final release.

>>127978308
but anon supports are just assaults without run + gun

I wish advent grunts were more interesting to fight

do they even do anything other than shoot, mark and make suicidal charges with stun rods?

>>127978343
>Like Reaper.
Don't give LW 2.0 any ideas

>>127978365
They are supposed to be to XCOM 2 what sectoids were in XCOM EU/EW.

>>127957003
LASER TESTICLE

>>127978365
>Do they do anything besides more stuff that is also more interesting than sectoids
I guess not.

>>127978365
shieldbearers appear later on and buff their allies' defense, but otherwise no. although I think troopers get grenades at some point later in the campaign.

still a hell of a lot better than the first month of EU being literally just sectoids with thin men on your council mission

>>127978365
Stun lancers can stun your troops and disable them for a few turns.

Advent troops just shoot. They're the old sectoids.

should i play enemy within before playing enemy unknown? I noticed there's a different scientist. Is there an ending to enemy within? I always assumed it just went on forever getting harder. I never assaulted the alien base tho

>>127978617
>A different scientist
U wot?

They're the same thing, but EW has more stuff.

>>127978617
What the what? EW is just an expansion, play that , don't play EU. Yes the game has an ending..

>>127978434
But I want them to be a threat. I also want to have that amazing moment when this idiot activates Reaper, runs up to my Ranger and just procs their Untouchable. Then Bladestorm procs and they die to it.

God that perk is so amazing. Who thought it was a good idea to make that perk. Untouchable means that my Ranger is going to be bait for so many attacks if I know there is only one enemy in range.

Leaving them out in the open is not going to be an issue most of the time.

>>127978721
Isn't Reaper supposed to be ITZ for swords?

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Hey guys, I'm starting a new LW game and I want to use the Code Names list. It looks like the OP's file has all the full name in the Last Name slot.

Does it have to be like that? I'm pretty sure it wasn't like that when I played b14 and I'd rather it give them a first and last name if that's an option

>>127978365
advent grunts are supposed to be the boring fodder units

>>127975716
They had to have done balance changes or something, looks like for the worse unless we're looking at out-of-order builds.

Advent Mecs in Beagle's Legendary War Hand have 10 health, 2 armor. In his preview build they have 7 health, 2 armor. The three health really makes all the difference.

>>127978718
>>127978692
i can't find a pirate of EW that works though

>>127978850
it's still way better though

>silacoids and reapers will never come back

>>127978773
Yes it is, but it also makes your first attack always hit, which is honestly insane, since even sword attacks seem to fail a good number of times for both Advent and the player.

Just imagine enemies like the Codex that have naturally high dodge and just being able to say "screw that" and deal full damage to them anyway.

The repositioning is also freaking amazing for the Ranger. Not only can you kill a group clustered together, but you can still move into cover afterwards. If you are close enough to a Psi Op, then he can use Inspire on your Ranger to give them another turn and then you can activate run and gun to be able to move and shoot. Sure it's only a blue move, but that might be just enough to get into a flanking position and take a shotgun blast, which is far better then what your sword strike would be at that point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_lfQzFyC9U

>>127979010
I thought Inspire just needed them to be in line of sight, not psi vision range.

>>127975878
>>127975894

This guy play on legendary too and look at the alien units on this as "easy" classified missions.

And than rewatch Beagle "moderate" Operation Demon Peak in may, than you see the difference.
3 weak "bosses", 3 stunlancer and 3 normal troopers

>>127978839
Yeah, i think they messed something up and that will get fixed at release. Aliens have normal difficulty HP thats not enough on legendary.

>>127978787
Pretty much. If I'm not mistaken separating the first and last name in the file wont match them together, so if you want to put in the names A B and C D you might end up getting A D instead

>>127979186
Argh, forgot link to the UFO mission, thanks you anon to read my mind:
>>127979075

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>Classic/ironman
>May
>Get a small UFO landing
>Send in a mix of A-team and B team for XP, can't be that hard!
>Turn 2 I aggro flowers, on ayy activity a pod of mutons and seekers aggro too
>Lost my B team assault and 2 rookies

Well, at least I captured a muton, I guess... Still need to capture the crystal ayyy

Any chance for the Cyberdisc to come back or did it get completely replaced by the gatekeeper?

>>127979182
I think so, though that might change. Let's wait until release before we take the preview gameplay to heart. No telling what strats will be viable or not.

>>127979240
Right, that's how the old one worked, it had a bunch of first words and a bunch of second words and it randomly threw them together. Made it easier to replace words with silly personal stuff and have them still show up.

Oh well, if this is how it has to be I'll just live with it.

does anyone know which TMX vod has Memester shooting that dog?

I hate how long war can just gatling gun missions at you. 5 missions in as many days is bullshit.

>>127979785
That's why you need at least 6 squads of 8 nigga

>>127957003
>MGS-themed codename list:
Guys why do you still have it here goddamn it

>>127970436
tranny?

>>127970436
Looks like a potato

>>127979371
Actually, I only used the last name slots because that's what you see the person as during a mission. You still have the same amount of names as you would if the game chose randomly between a first name and a last name.

>>127979010
Do you know the full description for Reaper,Untouchable and Bladestorm? Or a video? Can't find anything on them.

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I want XCOM2
I want it now!
It just looks so good

>LW
>second mission
>aggro a drone with my last action of the turn
>eh whatever everyone's in cov-
>pair of non-aggroed sectoids on LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE MAP break out of FOW and flank crit two of my rookies for instant kills
What the actual fuck.

>>127982063
That's XCOM baby!

>>127981620

Watch the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AImS1LcidsM
Untouchable ist at 29:53 , Bladestorm and reaper at 34:27. Look for bladestorm at the left lower corner.

>>127981814
I too, but let them balance it first. Balancing is very important for such a game.

Should I not turn my officers into MECs? Just had one of my best crit wounded for a month+.

>>127982063
>LW
Stopped reading there

>>127982220
>turn officers into MECs

yeah good luck with that

>>127982360
Okay then. Guess it was a stupid question. I never made it this far in the game.

>>127982183
Thanks and I see what you mean. That shit looks redonk. Blade damage is incredible and it looks like rangers are going to be the best shit ever for dealing with regular enemies.

>>127982561
>Not gunslinger snipers
They can get up to 2+(number of enemies they can see) attacks off in one turn. 3 if you include shooting back.

>>127981580
Oooh, that actually makes sense
Cool, thanks for the tip!

>>127980974
because it's cooler than using actual names
why would they remove it?

>>127982647
So what is the ideal team shaping up to be? Two snipers or two rangers? Assuming one of each other class. Heavies and rifle snipers look like the boss killers with sword rangers and gunslinger snipers for everything else. Psi-Ops are just massive force multipliers.

>>127982848
Hacking specialist would also have a place considering ranged hacking of everything and giving Covering Fire overwatch to someone.

>>127982925
Yeah but specialists also fall under support so I can't see more than one of them. With six people I see rangers and snipers are the best choice for having a double so far. I'm leaning towards sniper after seeing how wide the area for Kill Zone is and how it well it works when you know where a pod is. One gunslinger and one rifle sniper seems like the best option.

I kinda like how upgrading weapon tech levels work considering it means you don't have to worry about saving weapon mods and being stingy with who gets what with them.

>Gunslinger with poison ammo

What were you thinking Fireaxis? This shit is more broken than flying snipers.

>>127983578
I think it's bullshit, even more considering the story of the game.

How the fuck can a resistance movement, that is struggling for supplies and personnel at every corner, somehow, magically, conjure up unlimited copies of high-tech weapons you literally just researched?

It's casual bullshit.

So the only use for a conceal specced ranger is to literally run around saving civilians in terror missions?

>>127983747
Spotting enemies too.

>>127982270

Finally, finally it's over. With Xcom 2 so close and all the new videos, LW post are far less common than days before and people change it mind too.
I first visited /xcg/ after xcom 2 reveal. All played LW and if someone said he play Vanilla they laught at him. Some months later it was ok to play Vanilla and yet people stop reading if they hear LW.

So it's over... only Xcom 2 now.

>>127982647
They are good, but they don't get the attachment bonuses from the main weapon.
Sharpshooter get heavily nerfed, a Colonel have only 91 aim now, Xcom:EW sniper had 105.
Pistols suffer also range penality like shotguns too. And because of their low damage, they are weak against armor.


I will try the sniper build. It make seems weak, first because of the squadsight nerf, but you can kill and hit multiple targets as well.
They keyability for that is "Kill Zone" and allow you to shoot in overwatch at ANY enemy what move or shoot in the area of the (big) cone.
So where the pistol-sharpshooter go close and activate his coolddowns to hit the aliens, the sniper could stay back and can do this forever with his high power sniperrifle.
Expanded magazines and/or autoloader will help for reloading alot.

>>127962543
Why not play Vanilla where you don't get invisible ITZ rapid fire assaults with infinite ammo and squadsight CCS from mission three?

>>127983871
Aren't there also those PSC things that can boost soldiers? I think there are some that boost aim since there are some that can boost hp, mobility, and dodge.

I see gunslingers as more starters or finishers for weak or weakened enemies respectively since it lets them shoot off a bunch of attacks that do relatively lowered damage.

>>127977090
>Giving it a face when it's clearly always obscured

Worse than people who give xenomorphs lips

XCOM 2 day one patch

Overwatch no longer triggers when you are revealed on the enemy's turn

>>127984165
Beagle's going to ruin the game by teaching everyone how to break it.

>>127983706
I disagree. Tooling up is far far more expensive than the per unit cost of items produced.

Literally the only difference mechanics-wise is dumping the "make items available" button.

>>127983747
Spotting enemies, covering your mistakes/bad RNG with that nothin personell move.

>>127983706
The Avenger probably has some sort of fabrication facility which has no trouble creating them given the supplies. It was so hard in to create weapons in EU because it was poorly understood tech being created using human means. The aliens and by extension the Avenger can probably fabricate anything that you want considering its a supply ship. It still costs supplies to build them it's just more streamlined which isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you really want to buy them individually again mods.

God fucking damnit, can't even finish my 18th campaign because now i want X-com 2.

Fuck you Bagel and your streams.

>Soldiers from Egypt in XCOM-2 are black

We are reaching the point of insanity, we are literally retconning an entire people out of reality to fit an agenda

>>127984210
>procedurally generated terrain is artificial difficulty
>planning ambushes in a tactics game needs patched out
I love this general

>>127984353
>>127984297
I'm ok with the change considering the idea of mass fabrication being a posibility, what might be cool is if the first mission you use a new weapon you can only bring one as a sort of combat trial while the rest of the squad has to bring weapons with known reliability

>>127984542
The ability to literally sit behind a patrol, go into maximum Overwatch and have them walk into your LOS and all die before they can even retaliate is broken. It is more broken than EU vanilla snipers.

>>127984484
>giving a shit when you can just change the nationalities and skin colors and even genders
Hell you can probably modify the files so that niggers and people from those trash countries dont appear

>>127984484
It's almost as if Egypt is in Africa and ADVENT built mega cities over existing population centers and forced people to move there. But no it's some mysterious agenda.

>>127984584
>prototype for fieldwork instead of in a test range
Do you hate your soldiers? That's what research and development is for.

the 2nd tier weapons is so fucking cool

>>127983706
>>127984297

because you used to research a new tier, build 2 of every weapon type and that's it

the change also makes reinforcements on a base defence actually somewhat useful

So is capturing aliens still a thing or has it gone the way of the air game? Because I haven't seen shit about it which probably means its gone.

>>127984874
but reinforcements in base defense are useful if you manage your resources and have surplus on hand.

This changes just makes the game even less strategic.

>>127984687
>once per mission
So broken. But fuck player agency right?

>>127985036
Looks like instead of capturing them you just slam a grotesque probe (mindjack) into the back of their neck on the spot

I like it, its brutal

>>127983691

It have a chance to activate and dont work against machines.

>>127984051
Yes, and there is +10 aim ammo too, but i think it's not a good idea to use this ammo for gunslinger.

It looks strong, but after i made the maths i see how nerfed the sharpshooter got. There is almost no way to 100% hit on squadsight anymore, and gunslinger is a close range class.

Even beagle said run 2 grenadier + 2 specialists and not 2 gunslinger.
For me it looks like thatGunslinger is a "burst" class who need enemies in low or no cover to be good. And than all abilties are on cooldown...

Sniper get nerfed too, but i image that a
2x squadsight-sniper + phantom-ranger combo can be really good.

>>127985078
Yeah it is pretty fucking broken, have you not watched Beagle's streams?

>>127985185
Not that broken considering he has weapons he shouldn't have that early.

>>127985046
>This changes just makes the game even less strategic.

because you have to build one more costly gun instead of two?

>>127985151
Yeah but beagle plays in the most slow and boring way possible.He would rather lame it out for 50 turns than complete it in ten. Which is fine if you enjoy playing that way. Beagle is a great person to listen to if you want to win every mission in you come across and lose zero soldiers but at the cost of doing it in the most boring way possible.