Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

i want to titfuck steparu
even tho shes a baka and not even a real hahaman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHb7uhLe6kk
showing oldass bosses is baka too

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2nd for autoattacks, chaplain a strong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSpXoykljdU&feature=youtu.be

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>>127877391
>Chaplain gives two extra hits
Only Pyro can give one more hit, for a total of 6, right?
This raises a question, whether Cafrisun is still reasonable option. Maybe four +ele piece will bring more damage?

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>>127877192
Was about to make a new thread.
Good job OP.

>Discord chat for kToS players (Keep it ToS related)
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35yjyXrs

>>127873765
>>127874035
>>127875240
tested it in iCBT2 too.
Even with that Silver-instead-items Attribute, the Damage was pretty lame.
Not very Big Area and 32sec CD.

Overall another crap skill

I haven't been coming here for a few months now, well at least since the whole BR server thing.

Has anything terrible happened since then to the game? Or is it still smooth sailing?

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>>127877819
>Has anything terrible happened since then to the game?

>>127875660
is this true?
if so

xth for BRS GOT JUST ANOTHER TIME BTFO

>>127877847
But has anything actually bad happened to the game? Massive casualization, fucked up classes, something breaking?

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>>127877819
Daily patches, maintenance and daily login rewards
Korean is gookike central.
There's still hopes of international in 2-3 months with daily TLs soon™
Thread is dead.

>>127877391
Monk and Sadhu BTFOd
Chaplain is the real melee DPS Cleric

>>127877957
That all sounds good so far then

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>>127875660
PROOF.
>>127877917
I guess they nerfed dungeons so you can only run 5 of your choice + daily quests at 100+

>>127878073
>I guess they nerfed dungeons so you can only run 5 of your choice + daily quests at 100+
Fug.

Dungeons were the best bit.

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>>127877957
>>127877917
- TP shop open. can buy at website for nxcash. overpriced like mad
- Hair in TP shop for 198 + 289 TP or so. 2 Costumes currently for a bit less
- VIP Premium Tokens added, see pic. they can be sold in Market. they cost 198 TP
- Trading Removed (will MAYBE come back for Token users)
- Market Fee 30% (10% if Token)
- 1 Item in Market only (5 if Token)
- minimum and maximum Price in Market somehow fixed (no idea how that is calculated). cant sell lower or higher.
- Item added to Market showsup after x time. randomly 1-3 hours or so
- need to wait 2-3 days IRL Time to get Silver if you sell items in Market (even with Token)
- Max 5 "Free TP". you get "1 Free TP" after 2 hours

some classes better. some worse. events dont rly work. some more crap

>>127878141
>Tfw you were never taken to a dungeon with the person you played with and just made to grind and quest during beta

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>>127878073
>>127877860
It's still mostly a rumor.

>>127878141
barely exp from dungeons. overall exp is pretty low
a low new quests from new areas around Orsha for lvl 1 to 100 tho. they get you easy to 12x

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>90
>Have 3 maps to grind on

>>127877860
>>127878073

Just checked said community and any references to said information have been deleted (facebook links to removed content). In other words, just baseless rumors.

I've also checked LevelUp's (BR) website out of curiosity, and it seems their lastest release was back in 2013. Based on their history, they never had more than one year between publishing new games before, so they might have been slowing down on their market expansion.

>>127878314
forgot:
- 10 animated premium Emotes for Token users
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMdwFw1yFoo

- BuyBack feature removed

lame exp >>127878410

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Managed to get enough to buy a Token.

Also, I noticed Slithering consumes STA. Not sure if it worked like this before, but I am glad I went with Plate after all. Dashing while Slithering drains STA ridiculously fast, too.

>>127878478
Levelup PH got eaten by asiasoft. Not surprised if LU BR dies soon.

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>people rather than getting bonus XP from the event were getting less
rofl

>>127878541
how about you fuck off, nigga

>>127878461
>90
why u even grind

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Don't reply to the retard. Let's discuss the game more.

>>127878624
I mean many options to level. Of course I'm doing the 90 dungeon.

>>127877917
IMC fucked up big time on the game's release. It was a complete shit show, they quickly released the game only ~2 weeks after kOBT and it still had a ton of bugs. There was drama over 'exploiters' and 'beaters' which resulted in bans.

Very buggy still on release and the Cash Shop went full jew, with cosmetic hairstyles costing ~$25 each. KRs were calling it 'Shit Tree' and were making an uproar. But, they've been slowly redeeming themselves and adding cheaper and better cosmetics, fixing bugs and adding new content with patch almost every day, it's slowed down since.

>>127878314 explains a lot of the changes with the full release. They're still fucking up events. e.g. A +20% exp event was actually -20% exp for the duration recently.

Karacha + Cafrisun + Blessing + Sacrament + Last Rites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pb2IXCstbo

Not included in the video, but with Aspergillum added that would add autocast Aspersion with every hit as well.

>>127878478
Didn't they get their hands on games like Smite and whatnot since last year?

>>127878863
¿¿Wendigo searchers are passives now??

>>127878854
no. you fuckoff shitposter

>>127878863
so basically 5 hits per attack with pretty fast attacking.

oh man that dude who posted they had no way to improve their own attack must be biting himself

>>127879098
ur doing the same fàm

>>127879098
i dont give a shit about your typing+grammar autism
i will "low quality post" and "lowercase post" the whole fucking thread.
deal with it sperglord

Can someone give me a rundown on warlock and featherfoot? Are they worth it or should I go for C2 Alch? Fuck this shit, I don't even know what perks of C2 Alch has.

>>127879326
>I don't even know what perks of C2 Alch has.
It has the perk of being a prerequisite for C3 Alchemy later on.

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>>127879326
>warlock
C7 pyro based on the trailers

>featherfoot
Melee healing wizard

>>127879426
i will not. and i will not respect your trigger list. deal with it or gtfo

>>127879326
C2 Alch is like c2 Cryo
Just a stepping stone for C3

>>127878863
Now we wait for Chaplain2/3.
I was planning a krivis/doc but my CON/SPR autoattack priest3 was so much fun.

>>127879326
>what perks of C2 Alch has.

Magnum Opus. is/was shit
and Gem Roasting.
not really worth taking a Circle for only that

>>127878539
>complains about STA
>no pills on hotbar
That's Blogpantsu for you.

>>127879326
Wizard is not worth playing as a whole unless you like being a support slave.

But if you really want, warlock is a shitty dark themed wizard that relies on killing mobs to pop dark balls they can then throw around for some shitty extra dps, of course this whole mechanic is mostly uselss on bosses and mobs with a shit ton of hp. They also have a better fire pillar on a longer cooldown.
Featherfoot is a wizard than can heal themselves pretty well but it's not really the case for allies and apply a few debuffs, mostly a melee class. It's important to realize one of their two best skills doesn't work at all on two mob types and most of their skills are single target meaning on top of being melee you need linker for it to be somewhat decent.
Mediocre class with tons of drawback (a feature unique to the wizard tree) and not many pros. Actually with chapelain seemingly broken auto attack spam you could probably turn warlock into a godly support class since it has a skill that helps holy damage. Even more if those chapelain buff can be transfered to a qs3 with links.

Do any of you anons have a link to download the game?

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>>127880245
http://tosg.dn.nexoncdn.co.kr/patch/live/fullinstall/tos.exe

Replace tos.exe with tos.z01,tos.z02,tos.z03.

>>127879326
Don't go C2 Alch I'm already going for it, we don't need any more suffering.
All its skills got gutted, from pots to awakenings to gem roasting being moved to C2.

>>127879614
Can we get a linker C4 hidden class?

>>127881094
Why nor Wizard4? Imagine a skill like EQ but even more OP!

>>127881319
>more OP than EQ
nice joke anon

>>127877391
Damn, that's neat. A contender for best Auto-attack class, easily.

>>127879838
I had no need for pills up until this point, I already have 51 STA. It's not really an issue, unless I am dueling and I need to move and Slither at the same time.

>>127881319
>Ultracast - Gives you both Surespell and Quickcast at the same time
>Coma - Slept targets get a stronger sleep effect that no longer has hit limit.
>Quakequake - Every attack inflicts LV15 earthquake on the target.
>Wizard Gameplay - You and all your allies deal bonus damage to sleeping enemies

>>127881407
>Massive Earthquake
>Casts an additional Earthquake on each monster within range of the original Earthquake and adds 27 damage plus 8 damage per skill level.

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>>127881597

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At this point they should change thaumaturge buffs from matk/patk/int to additional magic damage.

>>127881640
>>127881597

my sides don't exist anymore.

>Wizard Hidden Class
>some edgy name, but literally Shapeshifter
only has 3 Skills:
>Shapeshift into Swordman
>Shapeshift into Archer
>Shapeshift into Cleric

there i fixed wizard

>>127882040
M I M I C

>>127882112
oh right. IMC already prepared for it

>>127882201
You should have expected as much. After all, Wizard is completely and utterly futureproof.

>>127882294
my mind was not able to imagine
>a hahaman using EQ15
not sure if this or any game engine can process such powerful magic

>Party up 130 dungeon with an Archer2Quarrel3 and a Linker2
>Everything melts in seconds

They're going to nerf QS, just you wait.

>>127882481
>QS

How? What's so OP about them now?

>>127882481
Archer have become the most op class with all the changes, qs is simply the apex predator of ToS now.

>>127881597
>Every attack inflicts LV15 earthquake on the target.

I need this in my life

>>127882535
Running Shot

>>127881319
>Levitate - You and your party are treated as flying. Level increases duration and bonus speed.
>Metamagic: Enlarge Spell - Temporarily increases your AoE attack rate, the area of effect and range of your spells at the cost of increasing the amount of SP they consume.
>Metamagic: Extend Spell - Temporarily extends the duration of your spell effects at the cost of increasing the amount of SP they consume.
>Metamagic: Maximize Spell - Increases the base damage (i.e.: not including gear and stats) of your spells at the cost of increasing the amount of SP they consume. If used with Lv10 Meteor, the channel crashes.
>All metamagic effects stack with each other assuming your have enough SPR to handle real magic.

We D&D now.

>>127883118
>If used with Lv10 Meteor, the channel crashes.

perfect

>>127883118
>Lv10 Meteor
>while you have lv15 EQ
Do you even Wiz?

>Dungeon reset scrolls reset all 5 duns

I expected them to free up one extra run, not reset all of them. This is OP as fuck.

>>127883630
They reset only one dungeon or all dungeons at the same time?

>>127883746
Anon. You can only run ANY dungeon 5 times.

>>127883746
It clears your log, as if you hadn't done any runs at all. Use them only after you've used them all up.

>>127883630
>This is OP as fuck.
yep. if only dungeons would give decent xp
10 x 130 runs was pain in ass for barely shit

>>127883630
I'll save for 217 dungeon.

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>>127880453
Welp, is alch2 really that bad, I imagine you could do some shit with LVL10 dig that pops out 10 stones maybe at the ground then combust them for 900 dmg per stone.

Might be useful in some cases like autism.

>>127884052
See >>127873765 and >>127875240.
It's going to be iffy at best, but I'll test it anyway.

>>127884052
in iCBT2 it was pure shit. unless they changed it into better.. and looking at other alchem changes, that sounds unlikely

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Are auto attacks supposed to be this slow or laggy feeling on wizard?

I feel like the animation lock is too long to even bother auto attacking aside from finishing off enemies.

>>127884278
it was a little better with decent ping in iCBT2
but wiz is not a autoattack class. use some of the many mostly-shit skills you get

Has the game frozen up for everyone else?

>>127884278

Server is in Korea, the ping really affects ranged classes' autoattacks.

A friendly tip I can give you is to jump cancel them. Helps a bit.

>>127884182
Thanks man, I hope your findings will be great!

Does anyone wanna be my healer NEET friend in international!

>>127884505
Ok.

>>127884643
Great! Do you have lots of free time? Are we gonna be best friends? What kinda healer are you gonna roll?

>>127884278
Jump auto or side step auto for higher fire rate.
But yeah that's just another drawback wizards have.

>>127884370
It's lagging like shit.
Also I just got DCed while fighting boss. Fuck.

>>127884368
>>127884381
>>127884828
Yeah, I wasn't sure if the lagg was due to ping or because it was just slow with autos.

I've been trying the jump cancel but I can't get it to be as fluid as I've seen other people doing it. Not sure if that's also part of the latency or because I suck dicks.

The only thing I despise about wizard thus far is the damned SP consumption. It's running me dry.

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>>127884828
>side step auto for higher fire rate
I saw this once on YT, this must be really tedious.

>>127885184
Stop using energy bolt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw_SfSgzRKs&feature=youtu.be

Here's the Archer2 QuarrelShooter3 dungeon run. Low quality, but you can get an idea of how much damage he's doing.

>>127877670
An extra hit will trump it unless you bring enough damage to count for the arde's damage and bless's damage to counterbalance it.

>>127886680
With so many hits, full memelemental set will outperform cafrisun, since the elem damage will aplly to every hit.

Do archer classes typically put points to STR or DEX? Or is there more to it?

>>127887027
Depends on build. If you have buffs that increase your critical rate, you put more Str.

Is the class exp table on tosbase accurate right now for korea's game?

Does Thaumaturge swell left arm dmg bonus affect auto attacks only or spells as well?

>>127887312
Yes.

>>127887484
It's flat matk/patk so it affects spells and auto attack damage but not additional ticks.

>>127886412
damn youre useless

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>>127887484
Thaumaturge is the best support one could ask for.

>>127887651
>rodel best tank
>can tank magic attacks

>>127887718
He does literally nothing, a 95% leecher.

>>127884643
>>127884815
Bullied again.

>>127887801
B-but he is best tank class ingame.

>>127887651
>>127887801
Not that I want to take the retard's side, but that's basically the life of a swordsman in a dungeon.
All you're good for is tanking while the spellcasters drop their bombs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8gcSe-f44&feature=youtu.be

Mounted classes redeemed?

>>127888010
Swordmans just knock away our fireballs.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>127888010
Unless your hoplite and highlander.
You basically outdps the archers and wizards while still being tanky.

>>127877192
My experience with this game is pretty much
>Hello there, holy warrior
>You have been chosen!
>(Random boss spawns)
>Why you have been chosen?
>Because I DUNNO LOL
>(Another boss spawns)
>Oh shit I broke my ankle
>Can you help me, please?
>(Another boss spawns when you are reaching him)
>Shit, man...that was close
>OH MY GO(another boss spawns)
>WHOA, MAN!You are really awesome!
>Have I told you I am your f(boss spawns)
JESUS CHRIST DUDE

>>127887680
Can Thaumaturge swell a monster for exp bonus and then shrink it to make it weaker so it won't hit hard?

>>127884815
>Do you have lots of free time?
This is all i have.

>Are we gonna be best friends?
Maybe, ERP allowed?

>What kinda healer are you gonna roll?
Cleric 3, Priest 3.

>>127887718
>>127887651
I knew I'd get this reply. Basically, I stopped doing anything in order to keep him focused on the center of the screen.

I am functioning as a normal tank, except I don't get rekt during the magic parts.

The physical damage parts I am inferior to a Pelt simply because I can't aggro as many monsters, but during any segment with magic are where I really get to shine. Frozen, knocked down, sleep, nothing cancels Slithering, so long as I am holding down the key.

There are also ways to keep Slithering up 100% of the time.

>>127888226
No, one overwrites the other.

>>127888393
so yeah you're effectively doing nothing

>>127888168
Hoplite expert here. Let me tell that it's not true at all.
You're a boss destroyer, but unless a linker is there to group up mobs in one spot so you can melt them with stabbing, you won't be doing much aside from auto attacking and tanking.

>>127888393
You don't do shit. I've never seen anyone being this much useless before.

>>127888340
Uh, we'd need to get to know each other really well, I guess. My only issue with priest is that res is obsolete due to stupid TP reses.

>>127888510
hoplite expert who clearly didn't take doppel or corsair c2 for sick boss deeps and mobbing deeps lmao

Does someone tried out the swordsman skill that inflicts bleeding?Is it effective?

>>127888721
I thought we were talking Hoplite only.
The moment I went Doppel everything just died to cyclone.

>>127887484
I remember a Thaum C2 buffing me and my matk went from 900ish to 1.4k+. Dullahan got murdered by frost cloud and hail.

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Are there any romantic relationships in this game yet!

>>127888487
>>127888553
If you want to put it that way, I suppose you're right. This isn't a PvE oriented character to begin with.

I can't Swashbuckle, so I have to run around and aggro+hit monsters to make up for it. Then I just hold C and let our linker soak up the 6-10 monsters I gathered. If you think that's being useless that's your opinion, but I have yet to hear a complaint in-game.

>>127888785
No one would be such a madman to go Sword3 with how competitive Swordman classes are.

>>127888979
uhmmm

>>127889035
How so? If I recall, swordie3 has a 40% chance stun ability...which is OP as fuck.

>>127888979
No this game kills them.

>>127889228
can't stun bosses meaning you can't bleed them with thrust meaning it's shit cause time spent trying to stun and bleed mobs is better used just beating on them with skyliner anyway.

>>127889097
You're going to bully him to death.

>>127889035
>>127889228
40% stun is great, and even 20% stun is pretty respectable in duels, but when you put things in perspective, you're basically getting longer duration buffs and some passive stun over not being able to take Pelt, Hahaman, and Barb, which are the bread and butter for any swordsman.

Every other R1 class in this game has really good attributes and skills, making them worth getting extra circles of, but Swordsman C2 and 3 need to be buffed A LOT before anyone seriously starts picking them.

Remember that if you give a character a like it feels basically the same as giving them an orgasm!

>>127886412
Wait so Loli Pantsu doesn't even have swashbuckling? Tell me this isn't true.

>>127889616
All right. And what about pvp?

>>127889710
just take barb for 100% stun in that case.

How will Gaben fix Tree Of Israel?

>>127889809
He will cancel it.

>>127889710
DISPELLER
EVERY CC THAT GETS REMOVED BY DISPELLER IS SHIT

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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/7ql84xo5u8/

Then use that staff that increase auto attack damage by 200% of your matk and use lethargy for the +100% damage and join qs/chapelain in tree of auto attacks.

iOBT or winds of winter first?

>>127890307
>attack speed buffs doing anything

nice try

>>127889698
He has no Pelt.

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>>127889987
>this game also has a fucking dispell ability
>just like RO
welp, time to redo my whole build

>>127890419
But in ToS, Dispeller is automatic feature, not a class.

>>127890527
>it's a fucking consumable
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/641151/
brb, killing myself

>>127890651
You just turn it on and it is automatically used when you get cc'd/

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>>127888118
SR confirmed even more viable now

Cataphract now also seems good even if you take Hahaman, that is if every skill now works which it looks like it does.

>>127890527
Plague Doctor is like Dispeller the class

>>127890754
Okay, cool. But can it remove buffs from targets, like restrain (in pvp)?

>>127889698
I've been over this a few times on the thread already.

Basically, Taking Pelt+Rodel is a waste because neither does good damage, and have no synergy with each other. Just because both use shields doesn't mean they make a good combo.

On the other end, Hahamans have excellent slash, and Cartar Stroke's cooldown lines up perfectly with High Kick's cooldown, giving me respectable Slash AND Strike damage.

My Rodelero in Gabija was PeltHop, and I ran into the problem of having ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE OUTPUT immediately after I hit Rodelero1. Promised myself I wouldn't do this to myself again.

>>127889987
>>127890419
>>127890527
Dispellers are borderline cheating the way I see it, making many classes' main defense and attack mechanisms moot. On the other end, without them, any class with easy access to CCs can easily chain-lock you down and completely disable you.

They should go with RO's system for CCs, where different effects could be contered in different ways. VIT protected against Stun, AGI against Bleed(I think, can't remember now), INT against Silence, LUK against Curse, MDEF against Freeze and Stone Curse. And for all characters, you could wear an armor card that gave you immunity to a particular CC, in exchange of losing the most important card slot available to you.

In ToS, they could have Magic Defense, SPR, INT, and CON protect against particular CC effects. The way we have things now, SPR protects agaisnt everything, but it's nearly useless as a stat for everyone who isn't Cleric, so people have little incentive to take some SPR in their builds.

>>127890842
No, it works only on you.
But there are skills that cancel some buffs, like one of Fletcher skills removes Reflect Shield.

>>127890842
Oh, wait. nvm. I'm retarded. I got it.
So this game is pretty much based on auto-attacks and potting. Really? Not like RO was any different, but hey

>>127891097
Its Tree of Auto-attacking/potting.

>>127891097
There are jobs that relly on skills, and never use autoattack, like pyro is skill focused and priest whack things with autoattack.

>>127891097
>>127891203
>>127891346
There are 3 autoattacking classes, the rest is skill based.

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>he gave me a sp increase potion instead of pink hair

Did they change it or did i just get kiked?

>>127892891
Claim your cheevo reward.

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>>127892967
Danke

>>127892891
>pink hair
slut
>>127893050
>more pink
loli slut

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>>127893158
I dont care~

>two months at the very least with nothing to do but anime and cutepost
Why couldn't you just let me die

>>127893221
>slut with handlebars
muh dic

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>>127893348

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>>127893529

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Saving the thread from page 10.

I am somehow going to endure 10 runs of the 130 dungeon in a single day, and then 5 more when it resets 3 hours from now.

>>127896521
I wath to kith these shecks.

>>127889020
>>127888393
A true tank goes Peltasta into Rodelero.

What good is it if you can absorb magic attacks from enemies if you aren't the target of those enemy casters?
Even level 1 peltasta would've been enough.

I cant be the only one who enjoy kTOS?
>Better Ping
>get party as corsair fast as fuck
>solo most of the time so no trading doesnt really bothers me.
>Dungeon gave loads of silver
>Retarded BR non existant
>gookikes supplying token for cheap on the market.

iOBT gonna be worse than this. Screencap

>>127897075
Nice blog mate
Enjoy your shit local publisher and IP ban from playing with us

>>127897075
Also koreans fucking love us, more if you're playing Priest

>>127896982
Going Pelt1 means I would be using my Rank3 as my only damage source for the rest of the game. Rodelero3 and Templar are 4 circles of no damage.

Besides, this isn't a "true tank", this is a Guild Leader build. Being tank is just my role un dungeons, not the actual purpose of this character.

>>127897435
>Isn't a tank
>Try yo pose as one
Sounds legit

>>127890959
>On the other end, without them, any class with easy access to CCs can easily chain-lock you down and completely disable you.

Plague Doctor snirks and tells your to fuck off.
Oracle snirks and tells your to fuck off.

>>127897648
It's smirk, not snirk.

>>127897815
THAT'S HOW LITTLE THEY CARE

>>127890959
>SPR protects against everything
lol no, I have played full SPR Cleric and I still got hexed, petrified and poisoned.

SPR protects you, but it isn't a super anti CC immunity stat, stop talking shit you know nothing about.

>>127898081
>not blocking poison and bleed
CON/SPR priest3 master race.

>>127897614
>High HP/CON
>C Block
>Provoke 10

I have everything that's required of a tank. I don't particularly want to be a tank, it's just that everyone needs to fit into one of the golden triad RPG roles, and tank fits me best.

>>127898081
Sorry, I expressed myself wrong. I meant that SPR protects against everything that can be protected against. In other words, if SPR doesn't resist it, nothing else will.

>>127898449
Does CON help resist poison and bleed? That's the first I read about this.

>>127898570
It does not help, but going 50:50 con/spr gives you pretty nice block rate, and you can block(without shield lol) with priest3, and yes, if you are pelt you can just hold block manually to block poison and bleed.

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>chaplain

Tree of AA Cleric

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I realised that the international version completely depends on subhuman brs pushing their google-translations to github.
No commits = no icbt.

>>127901843
IMC seems to do it themselves now, and one guy is proofreading.
I feel they kinda want to release this sooner than later.

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>>127877391
>>127878863
>>127899960
I don't think my thaumaturge is ready for all the attention she will get.

hi

>>127903938
hello

>patches taking 15 years to download
Good to know some things never change

>>127902354
Pyro/Thaum + Priest/Chap best couple

>>127904357
Get warlock for mastema at rank 7 even if the debuff only last 5s.

>>127901843
Can you do better?

>>127904357
>pyro/thaum
Into le trash

>>127905607
>thaum
>trash
Everyone wants to pet a Thauma, most adorable job ever.

>>127905812
Elementalist.

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>>127905607

International soon! Please!

>>127898570

Oh, question. How do you get a provoke if you didn't go peltasta? I've really liked your build so it surprised me!

>>127906512
Provoke I mean is the Swordsman attribute.

It's really confusing, but basically what it does is that, whenever it's on, mobs do not change aggro. The tank should have it on, and any other swordsmen in the party should always have it off.

Good luck explaining it to koreans, though.

>>127906630

Oh so _that's_ what it does. Man when I played my swordie in the iCBT I think I saw an attribute like that but its' description was pretty confusing. Thanks for clarifying!

>>127877352

Did this game always have breast physics and I just didn't notice or is it a new thing with the cash shop costume?

>>127905812
>Thauma, most adorable job ever.
>adorable
that is not how you spell "Chrono" or "Cryo"

>>127877352
70-110 fps during bossfights.

Anybody in /tosg/ have a computer capable of that? How much do you guys usually get in this game?

I am a laptop pleb, so I can barely keep 20-40.

>>127907493
As far as i remember, Step has OC 970. dunno the rest of spec.

>>127907493
>laptop pleb, so I can barely keep 20-40.
>toaster

i got 30-80 in party dungeons. up to 120+ solo questing

>>127877352
I remember I finished this fight really fast with my sapper, also 200 is pretty much what I'm doing per AA to bosses now. Are archers really as shit as people make them out to be?

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>>127907690
>>127907757
Do you guys have graphical glitches as well? I get them whenever there are layered effects on screen, such as waterfalls at a distance, or the fire beneath the ground at mage tower.

This map in particular bugs out on me a lot, on this particular place.

>>127908059
Steparu isn't really using one of the numerous "good" swordsman builds.

He doesn't even have Skyliner or finestra.

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>>127887651
>>127887718
>>127887801
>>127887939
>>127888010
>>127888168
>>127888510
>>127890959
>>127888510

>except I don't get rekt during the magic parts.

Just wanted to say, additional to everything the other anons have said, that this statement is absolutely false.

Those mobs deal laughable damage. I have tanked as many magical mobs Swash Buckling allows me to aggro while tanking with multiple swordie builds AND dealing way more damage in the process.

Slithering is not required to tank those magical mobs. Even if you aggro the entire screen, no build gets "rekt during the magic parts". Using Slithering is a waste of time as one could simply be dealing damage to make the run faster.

And since the damage from Hahaman+Rodelero is pretty weak as we can see from the video, then this build is effectively doing nothing.

>>127908059
>Anonymous
They were. IMC buffed them is recent patches.

>>127908451
"Orash Crystal Mine" ?
yep had floor bugs there. rarely anywhere else tho

>>127908713
I don't get your greentext. I was also talking about my sapper in icbt2, the AA penalty reduction is new, sure.

>>127908659
Those monsters *can* kill you, please don't pretend otherwise. That said, with some moderation and a healer, an average Peltasta can deal with this easily. I never meant that this wasn't the case.

Hahaman + Rodelero is weak, but it's the best Rodelero you can build. Swordsmen aren't the best dungeon DPSers, with any build.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/cr4229lzy3/

Do you guys have a suggestion for rank 7 for this build?

I wanted to try run and gun and stab but I can't think of anything to do on rank 7 except Rogue C3, but burrow seems pretty... eh, aside from additional ranks in Backstab I guess. Scout maybe?

>>127904838
Better than google? Yes.

>LoliPantsu makes a JUST character in iCBT
>does it again
Big Sister LoliPantsu is cute.

>>127909954
Why aren't you translating then?

>>127909693
Take Archer2 for the Swift Step attribute and Kneeling shot. They have good synergy with QS3.

If you feel like suffering a lot, try Archer1QS3Scout3. Running Shot with Split Arrow should make you the best auto-attacker in the game, IF you can make it to Rank7.

>>127910053
There's a lot more thought going into this build than on my SwordLanderHopCataCorDoppel.

I know there's someone here in /tosg/ that's making the exact same build I didn in iCBT2, replacing Highlander with Pelt.

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>>127910067
Do we know each other?

>>127909954
Please translate the game then because if international doesn't get here soon I will literally cry.

>>127910431
Yes, we share a name

>>127909674
>>127908659
Whats a hahaman?

>>127910559
Korean meme word for 'Highlander'

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>>127909674
>Those monsters *can* kill you, please don't pretend otherwise

Sure, they *can* kill you...if you play like a fucking retard.

Let's be serious, any half decent player won't die to those mobs. Knowing how to play against those mobs means you won't die, even with 0 CON builds and aggroing the entire screen with Swash Buckling.

Please don't pretend that Slithering is doing anything meaningful in here, because every other swordie build gets by without it and doesn't *die* or "get rekt".

If Slithering was even slightly required, then every swordie build would at least consider taking it and we would have read a shit load of people complaining about magic mobs and how they have to take Rodelero for them to not "get rekt" in dungeons. Which hey, never happened.

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>>127910559

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>>127908451
I haven't seen any graphic glitch except for headgear going transparent and overlapping with background sometimes.

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>>127910806
>no cute tsundere hoplite girlfriend who bullies LoliPantsu for being useless

>>127909674
>Swordsmen aren't the best dungeon DPSers, with any build.

so because other classes deal more damage and swordsmen you use that as an excuse to be useless? i mean, even if barb/hop/cor/cata deal less damage than those magic classes, they are still dealing a significant amount of damage, and in the case of hop/cata they can delete the big guys in seconds with their boss killing skills/spear.

>>127909693
Scout would be nice, especially the cute noise when casting Flare Shot.

But I would rather go for Rouge3 for extra Backstab damage and extra Physical Attack % from Vendetta (+45% of your Physical Attack for 45 secs at lvl 15).

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Can anyone tell me what the pop up message is saying? Every time I click to receive the prize for day 2 I get it.

>>127910364
I was thinking of archer too, but I wasn't sure if it was worth going back to it at Rank 7 with all the options available

>>127911473
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Vendetta only give flat strength now? It's only a 25 str difference from level 10 to 15.

>>127911473
>(+45% of your Physical Attack for 45 secs at lvl 15).
I think they changed it, it now gives a fixed amount iirc

>>127911516
Reset at 6, and you lost day 1.

>>127910806
I feel like throwing the FUTUREPROOF card here, but that would make me feel dirty.

Indeed, there's very little in PvE, as far as we know, that's magic and can kill you if you at least know what you're doing. Lizardman Magician and Hallowventer Shamans come to mind, but that's not enough to worry about.

I just wish people would understand already that this build is PvP-oriented, not PvE.

>>127911349
Here we go again.

The Rodelero damage kit doesn't shine until C3, when you get Lv15 Targe Smash and High Kick. Even then, Rodelero skills have a ridiculously high SP cost for some reason, which make them rather impractical for frequent use.

Basically what I do in dungeons is round up as many mobs as I can(manually), hold C until the thick of the mob is dead, and then use Hahaman skills to kill stragglers. It's all I can do.

>>127911516
You can only click stuff for the next day after 6 AM in-agme time. Try again in 30 minutes.

>>127911791
Yes, yes it is worth going back to it. As for what you'll want to pick at R6 and 7 is up to you. Falconer2 or Reiter2 might be good, Reiter only so if all of the stuff can be used mounted.

>>127911791
Nope Vendetta got a revamp

http://tos.nexon.com/gameinfo/jobview.aspx?classid=3009

Only lists skills at C2 for some reason but you can easily calculate Vendetta at lvl 15

>>127911863
That was how Vendetta originally worked

>>127911945
not him, but can someone link me the link for the attendance

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>>127911945
>>127911982
Oh okay that makes sense.

>>127912139
http://tos.nexon.com/events/20160107/index.aspx

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>>127911982

All I addressed was the comment implying how someone not using Slithering would "get rekt during magic parts". Which is false, unnecessary and a waste of time to even use it during our current PvE content (Yes, I will give you that it could change in the future, and that is a very big if).

I don't care if your build is for PvP, PvE, or roleplaying purposes. I believe that everyone should play whatever they want to enjoy the game, even if it means useless builds, roleplaying builds, meme builds or retarded builds (the game is easy enough to allow every one of these to exist).

All I wanted is to stop any misconceptions that someone going swordie without Slithering would "get rekt during magic parts". This is how memes get started.

>>127908451
That particular one is bugged as heck. The issue is that there's two versions of the floor in that spot, one for before and one for after you kill Cerberus (because he wrecks the panels on the floor when he pops out). It's treated as a map object though, so it only appears when you're close enough. In this case though, 'close enough' is after you're already standing on it. Poor design~

>>127911516
For the event, the prizes are for consecutive attendance, missing a day resets progress. On the plus side, there's 30 days and only 20 prizes, so missing a day at the start shouldn't screw you out of the 20 day prize.

Is there any info on what the Kabbalist class actually does? I know it has a nuking spell and a reflect damage spell, but I also see it has spells that modify "numbers" of the enemy which I don't really get.

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>play with controller
>for some reason, every single input is fucked up now
Why this game doesn't allow me to remap my inputs is beyond me

>>127912730
Is this your character? Do you have a special friend already?

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>>127912730
>This is how memes get started.

Memes are beyond our control. Just take a look at how the meta changed.

>Highlanders are awesome, look at Cartar Stroke.
>No, they're shit, get Swashbuckling.
>Wait, at C3 they are good because of Skull Swing, they are good again.
>Nah, Skull Swing isn't all that good. Don't go Highlander.
>Oh shit, no cooldown Skyliner.
>hahaman.
>Skyliner patched, it's even better now.
>HAHAMAN

>Wizards are shit, do no damage and suffer because of SP
>PYROLINKERPYROLINKERPYROLINKERPYROLINKER
>Wiz3Ele3 shits on everyone
>Lv15 EARTHQUAKE
>Chronomancers are the next big thing
>Rushing Alchemist for potion monopoly(rekt)

>Quarrel Shooters look interesting
>NO! Quarrel Shooters are garbage
>I saw a good PvP QS, they must be good!
>Just wait until they buff Quarrel Shooter
>>127882580
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1XinwJaQ3w

Who knows, maybe Rodeleros will be the next big thing. Maybe we'll find out Swordsman3 is THE shit for PvP, or perhaps all monsters 220+ are weak to Slash so only Hahamans and good again. There's no guessing the future when it comes to IMC.

You're right, though. Rodelero isn't good, but it's not bad enough that it would make me want to wake me up inside post all day. I really like costume and it really clicked with me.

>>127913460
You mean... like on the input configuration screen?

>>127914321
Can't modify anything there

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Gesti WILL be my girlfriend.

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>>127913702
>White haired animal eared male players

>>127913993
>>127914176
Fucking offtopic posters could at least try to get some new pictures to offtopic post with.

Speaking of which, where did Disc go? He hasn't made any fanart in forever.

>>127915491
>He hasn't made any fanart in forever.
When the heck did I make fanart?

>>127913449
Gematria and Notarikon are part of a cool system, but their only uses right now are for that reduce level skill, I hope it shines more in C2

Also it has Ein Sof, doubles HP and has an attribute that lowers the HP increase but enables SP regen

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>chronomancer players

>>127915613
>>127915491
newfriends dont know shit

6 Am, time to click the event page and get dungeon runs/dailies.

For cleric if you've gone cleric2 should you still take preist2 or would one circle be okay? I'm trying to build a cleric but I have no idea how to build it.

>>127916248
Tama Leaf are easy and chill. even 50+ of them

>>127916248
Yes, and? that quest is easy as hell, Tama has a high spawn rate

>>127890776
>Bloodletting makes you bleed
>Skyliner deals double damage against bleeding target
lmao

>>127916248
????

>>127916656
>What is Fumigate :^)

Anybody between 170~180 wants to do catacombs mission?

So

any idea on when there'll be another international beta? besides "soon" anyway

i'm tired of playing other games

>>127917107
any minute now

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>>127913491

Yes, and yes.

>>127913854

We will see. I personally don't like to make assumptions about the future when anything could or couldn't change (maybe we never get magic mobs, or maybe we do, or maybe Sky Liner gets nerfed to the ground, or maybe it doesn't, or maybe Rodelero gets it's kit changed, or maybe it doesn't, or maybe a new hidden class is added that is a better magic tank, or maybe it doesn't, or maybe IMC runs out of money and the game is shit for years, or maybe it isn't, or maybe they make the game even easier, or maybe they don't, etc, etc, etc).

>>127917107
Next week.

>>127917107
I just hope they make it another beta and not launch the game until they fix all their shit

>>127915660
Can reduce level be used on bosses or is it just a "neat trick" skill?

>tfw abandoned

>>127917107
yesterday. you guys sryly not playing iOBT yet?

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/the-announcements-of-iOBT-start-at-7th-january-2016/11110

>>127917107

Summer.

Gives enough time for the new content to get translated, and increases the amount of possible users they could get since people are out of school, etc.

>>127918419
I knew it was a troll but opened the link anyway hoping it wasn't

hi

They should put John on the translation duty. Imagine the memes.

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Can anyone give me some tips for this build? Don't know how to build my priest3 to chaplain. Also what would be a good rank 7 for this build?

>>127921159
Whoops forgot build http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/fwwkuvlntz/

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>>127916248
you don't know true pain

>>127922143
I complained about tama leaves, but those were easy when I actually got down to it.

Then now I have to get 18 Short Timber.....

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I want to ______ a submissive effeminate catboy.

When are the paladin buffs?

>>127921324
Half-assed/10

>>127923541
What can I do to improve it then?

>>127877391
FUCKING
BALANCE

>>127877391
>That female costume
That was the deciding factor.

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this guy must be killing himself for taking Monk instead of Chaplain

>>127877391
What would you take in rank 6 and 7, for best damage increase and also staying useful rather than just falling into a DPS role?

>>127925006
Can you not just go Chaplain C3?

>>127910364
>I know there's someone here in /tosg/ that's making the exact same build I didn in iCBT2, replacing Highlander with Pelt.

I-It was a mistake.

>>127925006
I'm going Pardoner C2 and noone can stop me.

>>127925304
It was a mistake for me in iCBT2 as well.

Didn't you look at your build and think "Mhm~ where did I see this before....."? Didn't your partner try to stop you?

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>>127924754
Maybe he likes monk!

>>127925715
The moment I took Corsair is the moment I knew I had fucked up.

It was the point of no return.
The event horizon of shitty builds.

>>127925116
Hidden classes may have one circle only

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>>127925372
It's a good idea to be honest, you can increase the duration of your support wizard mastema to slap thing even harder for a longer duration while he/she cheers you on.

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>>127925934
Yes, I remember the feeling.

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>>127878863
>Didn't even use Aspergilium
>All that potential for meme damage

Autoattack Chaplains new meta?

>>127925715
No bullying please.

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we're entering the age of Archer bots

>>127926478
>Kneeling Shot button hold botting is back
ayyy

>>127926267
It's not bullying, I just find it hard to believe someone who knew of my story would go and accidentaly do the same thing.

Even more impressive is that his levelling partner didn't stop him.

>>127925965
That's pretty ridiculous that you get that much power from just one circle. So basically anybody who wants to maximize their priest potential but isn't an early player that can get one of the limited hidden class slots is SOL? I really thought hidden classes were gonna be gimmicky and/or situationally useful classes while core classes would be the backbone of any good group, making them direct upgrades of existing classes seems like an awful idea.

>>127926748
The Swordsman bots in Miner's Village teleport now too.

>>127927081
Hidden classes won't necessarily be an upgrade of a common class, like Chaplain. Shinobis are a stand alone hidden class. Wait until we get a decent amount of released hidden classes to get mad.

>>127927081
Hidden classes aren't limited.

>>127927081
Shinobi is instantely a mandatory class if clones can use all your skills.
Knowing imc awesome balance abilities i wouldn't be surprised if it was the case.

We need hidden tree, not just class.
Semen demon tree.

Imp > Succubus > Demon Queen

>>127927738
Didn't they say early in development that hidden classes would be restricted by adventurer points in the journal? I haven't been following the game recently.

>>127927943
That was a previous idea they had, but they never went through with it.

They're just classes which are harder to get because the game doesn't tell you about them directly.

>>127923257
Kill

>>127927364

Do you have a webm of that?

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I guess this is telling me you can't buy items your alt listed?
RIP the dream. How do I transfer money.

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>>127926249
>swords 1
>high 1
>hoplite 1
>cata 1
>corsair 1

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What's the chance of getting the bonus EXP from cards?

Looking at the values, the bonus is more than 75% of the card's base value for Lv7 Cards. If we knew the chance, it'd be possible to calculate with more accuracy how many cards you need to reach a certain level.

>>127929907
Is the bonus even working?
So far I don't think I've gotten any bonus exp at all.

>>127929907
>>127930065
They removed that feature back in kTest. There was an error with it on kTOS though which they fixed. The tooltip is outdated.

>>127923257
lick

>>127923257
bully.

>>127928454
Please be nice.
>>127932065
Not too hard, I hope.

>>127929252
You don't. They've gone well out of their way to prevent it.

>>127929907
They removed the 'exp bonus' text from cards around the height of the roxana drama which caused IMG to make a big post stating that it never actually worked in the first place.

>>127929252
You buy shared storage for just 99TP per 5 slots!

International soon!

>>127930065
>>127930279
So bonus EXP simply doesn't work here? They didn't even bother updating the descriptions...

I finished calculating my EXP cards to get over the 16x wall. Maybe I'll make an Excel template later.

-------

Current EXP: 50,353,024 + 0.573*1,332,352 = 51,116,460 EXP
EXP at 175: 126,465,680 EXP
Difference: 75,349,220 EXP <- Needs to be reached with cards

Lv7 Cards on hand: 76*142,150 = 10,803,400 EXP

Cards to get:

Lv7(142,150):
Shaton Reservoir: 15
Demon 3: 15

Total: 4,264,500

Lv8(209,334):
Dina Bee: 15
Demon 4: 15
Demon 5: 12
Vilna: 15
Uskis: 15
Nuoridin: 15
Spring Light: 15
Namu Temple: 12
Glade: 11
Viltis: 8
Istora Ruins: 13
Laukyme: 8
Tyla monastery: 18
Verkti: 15

Total: 187 Cards: 39,145,458 EXP

All Cards: 54,213,358 EXP
Deficit: 21,135,862 EXP <- Need to grind or get daily quest cards

Supposing 5x Lv8 EXP cards per day:

Required cards: 100 Cards = 20 Days

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What level do you start getting Lv8 cards again? Getting Lv8 cards daily instead of Lv7s seems more worth it than being within the 130 dungeon range. With Lv7 cards it would take almost 30 days instead of 20.

>>127933743
166.

>>127933697
Its like they are really trying their hardest to make this into a solo game catered for kiricuck fangays. Is this game really online?

>>127934016
I saw some people pass by but it might be similar to Dark Souls ghosts.

>>127934016
They don't want people to trade between their own characters because it lowers the value of crafting characters, guild masters, etc. "Why would I buy pots when I can just hop on my alt and make my own" isn't something they want you doing. Most of those niche classes are R5+ for the same reason.

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>tfw can't get into an MMO right now but want those comfy RO feels from childhood

>>127933743
or you know just use one of the dozens exp calculator out there
http://calc.ragnosphere.com

>>127934581
>no target level

Any NEETs with lots of spare time wanna be my healer friend for international? I'd really appreciate the company.

>>127934581
How come this isn't in the OP?

Anyway, I guess my calculations are correct then.

Any gax NEETs with lots of spare time wanna be my swordsman friend for international?

>>127935276
Please don't cyber-bully me. I just want a friend to play with and level super fast with.

>>127935276
the meanings of Gax on urban dictionary, wow

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I better not be fucking bullied if I play archer in international.