/pdg/ - Payday 2 and Payday: The Heist General

Thread dead on arrival.

Please help me /pdg/ please I've been trying since xmas and I still can't beat the santa's workshop heist on hard mode. I get like 5 bags and die every time I don't know what I'm doing wrong please help

steamcommunity.com/id/akillerbee

>>127661346
sowfunnay

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fitfh for BLT mods all counting as cheating

>>127663031
>being this retarded

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Reposting.

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8th for good old Tribe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjj-25-gAOM

Do you like fun?

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mfDa:eqokLHIjFDa:tda:gMHiEfgbCda:froKiEFGBcda:ibcdea:pN8::w40-27-5-8-12:s49-2-6-10:a1

>>127663602
>Silent memer
>Using the raven when le balanced macaroni is better in every possible way

>>127663758
What's the meme, exactly?

>>127663758
>do you liek fun?
>but its not optimized!@!~@`12`1

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>>127663602
>silent killer aced when you already have Overkill basic,

>>127663852
The meme is that you're wasting a whole 12 points in a skill when you can just use a better barrel extension.

>>127663602
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mDa:eropklHIFBDa:tda:gSNKhIEGCa:ibcdea:pN8::w31:s49-2-6-10:a1

>>127664078
So it's not a meme and you're just a faggot.

>>127663853
Where is the fun? I could make a shitty build and call it "fun" too. You just use subpar weapons and try to make them viable with meme killer.
When someone says "fun", expect something like hostage taker aced, a sentry focused build, a nine live + Swan Song buid with the piglet or shit like that.
Not only your build is boring but it's also shit.

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>>127664271
>grinder,

Unconventional but still fine actually,

>>127664738
I forgot the other important bit.

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mDa:eRopklHIFBDa:tda:gSNKhIEGCa:ibcdea:pN8::w31:s49-2-6-10:a1

>>127664580
>sentry focused
>fun

>Raven
>Supbar cuz mah macaroni

>Hostage taker aced
>No points for good stuff, but at least I'm alive!

>Nine lives + Swan song
>Im only a retard a third of the time!!!

>>127665050
>hurr
>durr
Didn't read.

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>>127665019
>B8ing this hard,

As long as you keep grinder, you'll still be more useful than your average pubbies. Still, what a load of shit.

>>127665579
Hey, sanic miniguns are gone and they're not coming back. But they were fun.

>>127665769
Forgot your fug movespeed then.

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>>127665769
>40% more speed,
>almost 30% crits hits if you used a 33 concealment bernetti with the skin unlocker,

Crimefest was a fucked up mess but it was a fun one at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_TtHFt9GH0

>>127663241
confusing desu

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http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=14933
quality mod

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>>127663241
>Nine lives moving to the enforcer skill tree,
>not in the fug :D skill tree.

3/10 Overkill employees might steal your ideas though.

>>127666825
>that was supposed to be Swayze
At least he's going to keep working on it. Maybe one day he'll succeed.

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30th for best heister

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDcvwlSexE8

>>127667730
>Overkill didn't put this song in the trailer
What a shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2D1ROf6HzA

krinkov the best

>>127667730
This pic,
Get out of here Heister

>>127666957
>Making the fug tree even more overpowered
The skill fits more the "I'm fucking invincible" philosophy of the enforcer tree.
Nine lives is great. The basic is very strong on DW and the aced is one of the most underrated skill imo.

>dont't ask the woman when she's jew she just you know could use a little exercise
what did he mean by this?

>>127675919
Anon are you high?

>>127675992
Did I mishear it?

the mendozas

Will we ever get a new skill tree?

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>>127680981
That Clover is his girl and Houston shouldn't get any ideas when heisting with her.

>>127681142
sorry, meant for >>127675919

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>>127680981
Never. Balancing is a bitch for the Devs, they only touch skills as a last resort.

>>127664078
Not him but what extension gives 30% extra damage?

>>127686439
You're not actually getting +30% extra damage when every single shotgun suppressor reduces the weapon damage while the other two increase it.

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>>127686439
Just forget about Silent Killer, trying to get new breakpoints is not worth 12 skill points, just take another shotgun more adapted for DW if you really care, people trying to force the AA12 or the Street sweeper for this difficulty are hopeless.

>>127689435
what the fuck does this even say

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>>127687652
>increase damage by +3
>increase damage by +1

wooooooooooow

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>Complete the $1.8M SPEEDRUN achievement to unlock

>>127694736
it more easier than you think the timer starts when you pick up the fist loose money

>>127693508
+3 is more damage than -2 + 30%.
Faggot, learn to math.
I'm being facetious

>>127694736
Easy, join the steam chat

>>127694736
I'll help

id/SAM

>>127694736
It's not even remotely hard

>>127694736
If you appear in the chat I can host, but fucking do it

YEAH

Ieah

>you can literally do any build and be useful on any mission if you take grinder
What a stupid fucking company.

>>127714210
What a time to be alive

>>127714485
Where's the challenge if you can just do DW of any map loud other than car shop and be 100% successful thanks to a broken perk deck?

>>127715874
>Where's the challenge
You pub it

>>127693291
There used to be a translation in an old /pdg/ thread.

tl;dr is that the guy wishes that PD2 devs put in some sort of real tutorial because salebabbies don't know what the fuck they're doing and keep fucking heists up. That last panel is a lv 3 salebabby shooting at random guards with an AMCAR and Chimano 88 in Shadow Raid.

>>127722348
thank forklift wolf

does anyone have the mr oinkers one?

>>127715874
Have you ever solo carried a heist where you're shooting cops for like 30 minutes because cops just refuse to put their hands up so trading in 3 hostages becomes a tedious chore?

I used to do that shit when health regen was only available with Hostage Taker.

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>>127607885
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Knew What I Was Doing Was Wrong (i_knew_what_i_was_doing_was_wrong)
- Yeah He's A Gold Digger (yeah_hes_a_gold_digger)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

>>127724092
I admire your dedication, even if side jobs are fucken pointless.

>>127722750
One broken and bullshit system doesn't validate another

n

Is it possible to do the FF weekly solo?
Trade nine paintings on day 2

>>127734924
Of course you can

daily reminder Tribe did nothing wrong

>>127734924
What makes you think it's too hard to do solo?

>>127734924
You only need to restart day one until you get nine and then throw them on the table.

>>127738815
Never actually done FF before, and I thought it would be actually "brutal" like Tabula Rosa

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76th for RNG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_8pb6NbJG8

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Get the FACKING bundles

>>127739438
Day 3 is the shitshow part of stealthing FF. Day 1 is pretty straightforward and doable.

>>127742397
Yeah this.

The only frustrating part is getting a spawn with nine paintings, a lot of the time there are only seven or eight. Check the skylights and count hall by hall. May take some time, but it's better than realizing you're short after 15 mins

>>127741391
id fack her bundle if you get me

WANKERS

I need help with 3 achievements

>Reindeer Games
>Ghost Riders
>Heisters of the Round Table

IF you can help with any of these 3, join the steam chat

Is this piece of shit game dead yet?

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>>127746460
General ? yeah comfy and dead. Game still has 25k of players though.

Devs seems to have forgot about updates, announcement and shit.

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What would the Ozaki 8 of this game ? Those eight challenges like in Point Break that honors the forces of shitters and stealthfags.

>>127746460
Missing 2 for this shit, not even 10 minutes

Is just finish ANY heist

>>127746460
>>127748810
1 more only

Looks like we are going to do Reindeer Games and Ghost Riders

YEAH

>>127746460
I hope you don't get them faggot.

aa

>>127754367
aehY

>>127722348
thank forklift wolf

FUCK

>>127747978
>show you my build

Inexcusibly lewd.

>>127747978
That's hard. There is a lot of stupid shit that shitters and stealthfags do that make you mad, and so many possible ways you can masochistically inflict on yourself as a challenge to "honor" them.

- Finish a H&T without Shinobi or Hidden Blade Aced to nullify death sounds.
- Stealth the 8 bags of gold from FF DW with 75 detection and CTVs and FAKs
- Finish Rats DW after blowing up the lab.
- Complete Shadow Raid DW with the minigun, RPG, and CTV equipped while carrying an Artifact on your back while the alarm is going off. No Transporter allowed
- Finish Watchdogs DW after you kill the escape car on Day 1 with friendly explosives
- Finish The Bomb: Forest DW after accumulating 1000 points of health fall damage (is 1000 too low?)
- Complete the Wasteful achievement while using a suppressed Thanatos after sounding the alarm
- Finish a GO Bank DW loud after shooting 20+ civs (too easy?)

are probably the eight I'd put at the top of the list though.

Honorary mentions would be:
- Lockpick 120 boxes in a loud H&T DW without lockpicking skills
- DW Entrapment but you collect every bag and lockpick open every box without any points in Lockpicking
- Slap 8 ECMs onto the 8 ATMs in the basement on DW.
- I'd also say do a DW Transport without drill skills, C4, or saws but I do that to pubs all the time.
- Stealth Car Shop DW without ECMs.
- Kill a DW Winters without any fire or explosive damage
- Hack the panel 24 times then trigger the gas anyway in The Diamond DW
- Let cops despawn 108 bags of coke/meth/whatever in an infinite heist
- Stick around Santa's Workshop DW for an hour after losing all four elves
- Joker 108 cops
- Zipline 108 bags of ammo (probably to the river) on DW Train
- Throw each of the bags of coke into the water at least once each (aka. not throw one bag in 12 times)
- Shoot/damage every artifact on the map in The Diamond DW
- Do a loud DW with no skills, empty perk deck, suppressed AMCAR and Chimano 88 (no other mods).

>>127767904
Actually the H&T ones can probably all be combined into one.

Kill all 4 guards in H&T DW without any anti-noise skills.
Then trigger the alarm anyway.
Then lockpick all 120 boxes without lockpicking skills.
Then secure all loot.


Also the 108 Jokers one has to be all in one heist. Otherwise there's no challenge.

>>127767904
> - Finish a H&T without Shinobi or Hidden Blade Aced to nullify death sounds.
I hope you mean solo stealth, right? Because organized crew can stealth it with nothing but RPGs and shaped charges or saw.
> - Stealth the 8 bags of gold from FF DW with 75 detection and CTVs and FAKs
My crew almost did that. Planted coke fine, broke stealth while pulling gold out.
> - Finish Rats DW after blowing up the lab.
Is that even technically possible now? I thought van leaves forever.
> - Finish a GO Bank DW loud after shooting 20+ civs (too easy?)
Does the exact number of dead civs affect the cops spawns?
> - Slap 8 ECMs onto the 8 ATMs in the basement on DW.
Just stealth it first.

>>127768641
You can blow it up after cooking+securing 3 bags and the van should still be there.
You get out because you put points into Pistol Messiah

I was asking if 20 civs is a small or large number of civs that go through GO Bank. It's to illustrate how a typical "stealth" run of GO Bank fails because of the endless chain of dead bodies that go beyond the edges of the map. Nothing to do with loud difficulty. I think 20 is too easy but I don't know if the heist lasts long enough for say, 30+ civs to spawn and be shot.

>stealthing Big Oil
The idea was that pubs are too stupid to ECM open the ATMs so they place the ECMs onto the face instead of actually using them. It's the hardest map I could think of with that many ATMs. Street Escape and Crosswords only have like, two ATMs, Mallcrasher is too easy, and H&T only has 2. Don't think GO Bank has enough ATMs either. But as it is, maybe it's too easy. Could add the stipulation of no Feedback/Overdrive ECMs, and you have to finish Day 2 with DW Miserable.

>>127769160
Apparently Swan Song doesn't prematurely terminate if you blow up the lab while in Swan Song so that could be a thing.

I guess I need a replacement for the Rats challenge idea.

sydney when

>>127770727
Who the fuck is sydney

>>127771667
iirc australian transfaggot heister. Not sure if invented by tumblr or datamined.

are any of the lmg's capable of hitting 40 damage without being utterly inaccurate?

I can't do it without making it shit, using an ammo burner or silencing it, which kind of misses the point.

>>127771846
she was announced officially at Paydaycon.

>>127772270
LMGs are complete garbage and were never ever good. They need to be buffed even more than AR, but no one at Overkill wants to balance that shit games. Enjoy your shit skins, cash grab DLCs and Mosconi meta.

>>127773995
>clover looks very much like her VA
>they won't give syndy giant rocking tits just put a balding head on Clover's body

>>127774446
Thank you, Mr. Salt.

>>127774446
>They need to be buffed even more than AR
>using silent killer have an ar that does 216 damage with max accuracy and nearly maxed stability
I don't get how this is considered bad.
Can no one aim in this community and that's why they gobble up shotguns like cock?

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>>127772270
>implying anyone need accuracy or stability when it's already perfect when using the bipod mods,

Just use the KSP if you have a problem with LMG, it will makes you love them

>>127767904
> - Stick around Santa's Workshop DW for an hour after losing all four elves

Not possible, it gives you a point of no return timer of 10 seconds if that happens

> - Stealth Car Shop DW without ECMs.

Easy; doing that most of the time because I rather use body bags. Solo though

> - Finish Rats DW after blowing up the lab.
I thought the explosion kills all cops on the map; so you need
- Pistol Messiah
- 3 Bags of Meth already cooked (so escape is there; otherwise escape will never arrive)
- possibly a jokered cop that is ready to be traded (had a heist where someone blew the lab up in exactly that situation and the cop didn't die)

>>127775682
> jokered
meant dominated

>>127775682
Explosion should only kill all heisters, not cops.

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>>127767904
>Finish a GO Bank DW loud after shooting 20+ civs (too easy?)

That's not a challenge, that's what always when happen with pubbies and fuck they don't need grenades or explosives weapons to make a slaughter.

>inb4 update today

>>127776570
i'm going to redraw this picture
i can't stand that tiny fucking ear

>>127776570
I mean, that's why I asked if 20 civs was too easy.

I wanted something that simulates the frustration of spending a lot of time trying to "stealth" it but it eventually ends in failure and you have to slog through it. GO Bank stealth without control freak was one of the things that came to mind.

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>here in my safehouse with my new falcogini here.

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Why cant the payday crew afford a better drill?

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>>127777810
Why can't we just use a spoon ?

>>127777810
They don't need it.

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>>127771667

>>127778791
Maybe Chains was just showing off his new white blonde gf.

>>127777810
They used one in Counterfeit.

>>127771846
why do people think she'll be trans?
the quote about her being 'unsure' or whatever is probably because she has moralfag tendencies

Will Sydney be cuter than Sokol?

pity bump

Man, unlocking the Hard skull is tedious

>>127783234
hard skull is best skull

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Reminder.

Does anyone even play Payday 2 since the microtransactions?

>>127786174
everyone but you
and no, you're not invited

>>127783234
tell me about it, I did all bain contracts on hard today. H&T and transport heists have never been this boring.

>>127786428
Hey, bud. Fuck you, okay?

>>127786919
Sorry, but if you're going to get your panties in a twist just because of a fucking texture, you can take your SJW attitude elsewhere.

We don't want you.
We're here to have fun; and you sir, are not fun.

Seriously, would you SJW's just get it over with already and bleed the fuck out.

>>127787592
Not him, but what do microtransactions have to do with sjws?

>>127787758
Yeah, I've got no clue.
This weirdo went off on a tirade all because his jim-jams got rustled when I said fuck you.

On an unrelated note, which start in Omega Ruby is the best?

>>127787936
Chimchar?

>>127789605
CHIMCHAR ISN'T FUCKING IN OMEGA RUBY! IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T EVEN LISTEN!!
WHAT THE FUCK!

I chose Torchic. Thank you.

Anyone else crash after a game gets restarted?

>>127791895
often enough, but not a lot

>>127789605
Also, in Pokemon Pearl/Diamond Turtwig is the best starter, not Chimchar.

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>be cheater
>join pug
>has a ruskie in it
>decide to cheat by opening everything
>ruskie gets automatically kicked, no questions asked

I've been lurking and abstaining from posting for the past week, but I saw this video and wanted to know if the game now actually has boats in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yvKXUbxj0U
>0:21

>>127793886
You did America proud, anon

>the only SMG that's any 'good' is the Krinkov
>the rest of them are complete hot garbage
why tho

Does Framing Frame day 3 have a camera room that you can take out?

>>127795036
Yes.

good luck guessing which of the 3 doors has it

>>127795036
It has a security room, yes.

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Where's my Canadian heister, overkill?

>>127795607
>Chainsy pal get up.
>Dallas what's this all aboot get up
>Houston friend why don't you come on over here ey?
>Sokol you godawful sack of shit I'm sorry get up pal.
>Sorry for killin ya dozer ey?
>Taser my bad for killin ya friend.

>>127795607
Canadians don't have a gimmick they could exploit. Hockey's their biggest thing and Sokol has already taken it.

>>127795607
There won't ever be a Canadian heister because Overkill already gave Sokol the hockey stick as a melee weapon.

>>127796418
>>127796483
one word; Curling

>>127794727
Not in a meaningful manner, no.

Birth of Sky heist in the Point Break DLC has an exit segment where you ride a motorboat for 10 seconds.

That's it.

>>127796418
I think canadian-russian banter would be fun

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>>127795607
Get out Noep, you've got a Mod to look after,

134.3 MB UPDATE

HABBENING

ayy lmao

>>127800861
I don't see one. Are you being tricky again?

Are you not allowed to change the color of the Biker helmet?

>>127746460
IT’S TIME

If you can help with any of these join the Steam chat


>Reindeer Games
>Ghost Riders
>Heisters of the Round Table

>>127807074
I only have the masks for Reindeer games unfortunately

>>127807895
It's something, hop in nig

i just did euro bag simulator

fucking hell that was awful

why do they make these achievements

>>127808270
Get in the Steam chat too for >>127807074

>>127796483
>>127796418
Seal club.

>>127807074
WE ARE 3

Kinda missing but it works

>>127795607
Yes more shitty meme character packs that's what everyone wants right?

>>127812595
Yeah we need more grinder-tier broken perk decks so you don't even have to bother with trying in this game.

>>127812595
>canadian
>meme

well fuck you too

>>127794940
The p90 is pretty good

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>>127724092
>>127728119
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's new Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Knew What I Did Was Wrong (i_knew_what_i_was_doing_was_wrong)
- I Am The One Who Knocks (halloween_1)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

I'm hit bad I neeed a god damn medic bag

WHO IS UP FOR GHOST RIDERS

>>127825945
We need 1 more, ANY DIFFICULTY MASK will work

>>127825945
>>127826965
Still need 1 more

You faggots are always crying about no one heisting and we already did shit

>Reindeer Games
>Heisters of the Round Table
>120 Proof
>OVERDRILL!
>Cloaker Fear
>1337

>>127828451
Forgot

>Let's do th...
Really easy but that one too

>>127828451
i'll be down for some Overdrill in like half an hour or so

id thestarasp

>>127829001
NO IDIOT, NO

GHOST RIDERS

FUCKING, GHOST, RIDERS

STUPID WANKER

Weapons, Perk Deck and Skill. What do you fags use?

>>127829001
can't help ya then fagtron

>>127829001
>Says that they DID Overdrill
>Asks for it when he is asking for other shit
Don't act dumb Shitter

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>>127829234
Joce and Sig .40, I change it to Deagle when OVK/DW
Grinder

>>127830180
You aren't a dodgefag or a tankboy so what the hell are you?

>>127830335
I’m support

>>127830383
you look like you're going to die in 5 seconds

>>127830583
It works, 10/10 DW viable, I’m the one always killing Winters too

>>127830583
No duh

He's using grinder instead of an actually viable perk deck.

>>127830821
Grinder is a viable perk deck

>>127830821
But grinder is op and always viable

>>127830821
>Armorfags shitter crying about muh viable

>>127830821
>>127830649
Here's my shit http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mhijGBDa:erOplIjEFGcDa:tsOpliJEGBcDa:ghECa:ibcdea:pM8::w48-24-11-3-27:s18-14-32-35-12-39-8-29:a7

Midgame atm.

>>127830875
>>127830896
>>127831038
>falling for the b8

>>127831184
>http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mhijGBDa:erOplIjEFGcDa:tsOpliJEGBcDa:ghECa:ibcdea:pM8::w48-24-11-3-27:s18-14-32-35-12-39-8-29:a7
Change Ammo Specialist for Berserker? Just saying because you have Shaped Charges too

>>127831378
Why Beserker though? My deagle can easily wipe out most enemies easily.

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>>127829234
Mosconi for fun
Eagle/ Mateba for bizness

Muscle cause it's broken as shit.

>>127831653
Filler, or something else to fill it, unless you use the ammo bag a lot, why bother with Shaped Charges then


>>127831962
>2 Medibags aced
>2 Ammobags aced
Waste of points here, you know that you can make different builds and save them right?

>>127832256
maybe he doesn't want to take shotgun skills or memezerker on his way to saws and FL

>>127832256
My bad I thought you were talking about the +135% more ammo on pick up skill.
>>127832501
OVK can't even design shotguns properly. Can't do shit to Dozers visor and any other ammo is shit.

>>127832673
>our reddit
>reddit

>>127832256
I'm too lazy to switch builds, unless I'm doing some dumb achievement.

It's still better than some shitter who only brings 4 FAKs.

>Cant change the build between days in a heist
>Not even the fucking perk deck
>Can't even see what throwable they are using
HUD UPDATE WHEN

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>>127832825
>Can't do shit to Dozers visor and any other ammo is shit.

this is what shitters actually believe

>>127833112
Normally, atleast 2 Joceline/Macaron shots in the face would kill a bulldozer, but because whoever knows what the fuck they did, you can't even remove the plate with 1 shot

>>127833112
Keep talking like you know shit. Loco vs Visor, tell me exactly how many shots it took before the glass scattered all over your eyes.

>>127831184
>>127831378
>No silent killer
>Thanatos is silenced

>>127833450
for what purpose?

>>127833450
-80 damage isn't that big of a deal. also get more stability.

It's probably shit build, but really enjoying ace oppressor and muscle.
Having people shit themselves in fear because of your sniper and smg is pretty fun.

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>>127833526
>>127833695
>>127834203
It would end like this?

But why, its the fucking Thanatos

>>127834291
Exact same stats but 48 stability.

>>127834712
The skills

>>127834856
4 base +16 skill +28 mods.

>>127835136
I’m not asking for the skill your dumbass, I’m telling you that it's because of the skills

>>127835237
>for the skill your dumbass
So what country you from? While you're at it, I'm showing you that I get more from mods than skills.

>>127835482
I used the ACC boost instead of the STB one, probably your skills give you extra in both stats

>So what country you from?
Acting dumb on purpose?

>>127835672
>Acting dumb on purpose?
Here, let me leave before I drop an ounce of iq points. You probably haven't realised your Engrishu mistakes captain foreigner.

WE NEED 1 MORE FOR GHOST RIDERS

JOIN THE STEAM CHAT

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>turn on payday 2
>play one heist
>get bored
>turn it off

I dont even know why I try to enjoy this anymore.

>They guy that uploads PD2 music to youtube just donated a fuck ton of money to AGDQ.
Continuing to prove the only good thing about Payday is its music.

man over two years and sixty dlcs later and people still suck a flaccid donkey dick at this game

>>127836132

>friend logs on
>play 2, 3 heists
>have a great time
>friend has to log off
>go back to idling on 4chan

Having free time when your friends don't sucks.

Thinking about soloing Nostalgia.
I've done firestarter all of like 2 times since I started playing this game a couple of months ago.
Can some people clue me in to how hard it will be?
Usually run muscle but if I have to run cancer-grinder I will.

>>127845997
>Armorfags shitting on Grinder
Classic

>>127845997
muscle is the same kind of cancer as grinder not that it matters

somebody gift me payday 2 and i'll gift you a compliment

>>127846191
Probably, but its promotes actually having to take cover once in awhile rather than just being able to stand in front of a turret and not die, ever.

>>127846459
You're a fag.

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>>127846664
King buuhuu that you? Sorry to inform that you're about one and a half year late to tryhard.

>>127847404
I don't get your point. Are you arguing that grinder isn't broken ass cancer? Because that's a fact. They're like rogues from vanilla wow. Muscle is warriors, so yes they are/were cancer but they still aren't nearly on the same level.

>>127845997
done Nostalgia solo today actually, felt like having a knife aimed at my dick all the time but I got through on almost first try, here is how it went:
>got amcar to 40.9 dmg, 44 acc and 88 stab
>equipped lucille for melee as it has that one hit stun
>used muscle perk deck for that hp regen
>went to hangar
>saw only 4 cases
>restarted because fuck waiting for drills
>on second try got 6 bags
>destroyed them since oil tank was closer than car
>took around 15 minutes
>second day
>camped server room
>when I got server I went to loot room and waited till assault is over
>then got to car
>easier than expected
>third day
>fucked up stealth
>vault was in the back
>camped photocopy room
>managed to get over with two drills
>got camera to record money burning
>camped copy room till assault was over, then ran to car

give it a shot, but rng gotta be on your side, I got lucky with vault imo, dont think I could handle it if it was in normal position since teller room had both doors open on my run

>>127847962
The game is fucked beyond repair. Pretending that you're somehow better for sticking to your kind of cancer is just dumb.

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>>127836132
>he doesn't play with friends, completing DW jobs, gaining millions and harassing crew chief and hitman pubbies in the process,

Playing mainly with randoms is really not the best part of this game.

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>>127829234
Flamethrower with the judge or a random smg,
Infiltrator perk deck because i'm a P2Wfag,
based Techforcer build,

>>127829234
Techforcer, muscle, I use Sniper/smg/saw dependng on the map rather than shotguns.

>>127849708
Half the reason its fucked is because of grinder.
So yeah.

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>>127847404
>abuse Fire ammo/flamethrower/RPG/Piglet,
>he doesn't understand that the incendiary Piglet is incredible for jobs like The Diamond or Hoxton's Revenge,

I bet a common skin he's one of those R93/Loco players.

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>>127851838
>Friends

But people are mean

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>return to try out pd2, haven't played since january
>first game is hotline miami, ridden with people spouting MLG quotes and /k/ surface memes
>host runs to captain guy as i shoot an RPG at him
>he dies and quits

i'm glad i wasted 400 hours on this game when it was worthwhile

>>127855239
Play with /pdg/ then

It usually goes well

>>127855513
>not hosting

I don't know what you were expecting, anon.

>>127855239

I'm not mean, Anon. Are you still up? I'm having trouble getting to sleep, and a heist or two might be just the ticket.

>>127848053
I did it, first 2 missions stealthed flawlessly, last one I fucked up as well.
On the first attempt I was downed right in front of the van trying to escape, and then it took me 4 more tries to actually get it done right.

>>127848053
I bet you failed the first time because your CTV made you too slow.

>not using suit rogue
>blowing up 6 guns even though you spent 15 minutes anyway
>failing H&T stealth
>camping photocopy room
>vault in the back is important rng
>all this for solo OVK
anon pls

>>127853146
Nobody gave a shit about Grinder except whiny Redditors who were salty that they were too poor to buy the Sokol DLC and using the unlocker is a foreign concept to them.

It's when Muscle got health regen and after the weapon "rebalance" where they shat on ARs and made it a pistol meta that the game basically went to hell.

>>127861557
>stealthing Firestarter because shooting OVK cops is so hard
Why are you bloggers so shit at the game?

>>127863584
Someone is triggered as fuck right now.

>Try to make a melee build.
>Is more boring and less functional than the old Car-4/Loco meta.

>>127864143
I don't know about any one else, but cracking skulls in one swing of my mighty pick axe is super satisfying

>>127863750
I am so mad.

NEED A MEDIC BAAAAAAAAG

YEAH

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>dat neon iron sights on the Big Kahuna legendary skin for the Reinfeld,

Overkill confirmed for having played the first Killing Floor recently

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>>127864143
>mfw Falcon Rifle and Judge shotgun are almost meta,

Feels good mang.

GET THE FUCK UP

>>127847404
This should be in OP

>>127879259
#nosuitnoloot

The numbers speak a different language, Mason. Players seem to be loving it.

any of you betas man enough for some death wish

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>mfw all the legendaries weapons are a disaster on a meta standpoint and are objectively inferior to basic weapons who can be optimized and more interesting,

One can guess Overkill was really scared of people accusing them of releasing more P2W skins with OP legendaries.

>>127885363
Yup.

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>>127885076
>he doesn't prefer to play comfy-tier Overkill jobs, getting endless amounts of money and xp while chilling with his friends.

>>127885363
>P2w skins
I'm pretty new to this game, but can you explain? Weapons skins aren't purely cosmetic

>>127885758
Overkill difficulty more like snorekill difficulty.

>>127885758
My friends don't play payday and the closest thing I have to heisting buddies is the pieces of shits in the group chat

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>>127885903
>Weapons skins aren't purely cosmetic ?

Some can have stat boosts (like a +4 stability or +1 concealment) and really attracted the metafags when it was released even if those bonuses were really small and negligible. But now since the devs gave those stats boosts for free to everyone, the "P2W skin" argument is dead although the AK Rifle legendary skin still have a superior accuracy over most of the Assault Rifles.

Tl,dr: just forget about it, skins are now purely cosmetic.

LOVING IT

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So what were the best heist tracks of 2015 for ya'll? What about side tracks?

Gunmetal Grey 2015/Dead Man's Hand and Meat and Machineguns/Pilgrim for me.

>>127886380
>the "P2W skin" argument is dead
You make it sound like it's okay that the skins are still a thing and/or that the people mad at OVK are now being unreasonable.

OVK is backpedaling hard because they know they fucked up. The free stat boosts were never part of their plans, they implemented it in panic mode so that people like you would go "Oh it's not p2w anymore so it's okay ^___^" and made sure that everyone noticed the free stat boosts being implemented with the announcements they've been making since Crimefest.
>Oh we will do something to make you guys less mad
>We are implementing free stat boosts so it's not p2w
>We are testing the new system right now, check back soon for its release with a NEW CHRISTMAS SAFE!!!!!!11!1
>OMG MONTHLY JOBS AIN'T THAT SO COOL
Seriously, stat boosts were obviously unplanned and done on the fly. It's why they're so stupid and unimaginative along with the new monthly jobs.

Your reasoning specifically is basically that of an abuse victim. It's pretty hilarious.
>oh I know they hit me before but they said they'll stop
>they even drove me to the doctor to make sure I got proper treatment
>they're not so bad, I promise, you guys are just too focused on past events.
And by hilarious I mean "depressingly sad".

Free stat boosts doesn't make the p2w microtransactions any better. Or excuses them. Or justifies their existence now. Neither should exist in the first place.

OVK just made the grave mistake of assuming that the community would tolerate 2 years of microtransactions and are now backpedaling as hard as they can to salvage what little money they can squeeze out of the community. Now since their genius plan is dead in the water, they will have nothing better to do except pump double the planned amount of DLC packs with shit guns that are sidegrades to meta weapons at best, heisters nobody wants (or has voice lines for), and one day heists that are basically just Transport rehashes.

Game is dead.
Future content is dead.

>B-BUT THE SKINS ARE P2WIN
Yeah, +4 stability or +1 concealment would have completely changed the meta.
Fucking morons.

>>127863584
>I bet you failed the first time because your CTV made you too slow.
mate, nostalgia requires you to use suit and no skills at all and using two shitty guns, one of them cant even break 40 damage without skills

>>127887865
>Stat boosts really matter when you're playing a game with no competitive edge.
>Game is dead.
>Future content is dead
How does this game even have a "meta" at any time?
At a certain point heists on any difficulty become easy for a player when they unlock enough mods/decks/knowledge of the maps and how to play them. I'm sure some people are so good at the game they just dick around in deathwish.

Skinned guns didn't gate skilled players from anything. Only idiots and shitters with disposable income thought they did.

when did the macaroni become a meme

>>127888786
>How does this game even have a "meta" at any time?
The same way that just because somebody can do loud DWs with no skills and unmodded AMCAR+Chimano 88 doesn't mean unmodded AMCAR+Chimano 88 is meta.
The same way that just because some faggot pub with suppressor skills and a suppressed .50 cal got carried on a loud DW doesn't mean suppressor builds are meta (or acceptable).
The same way that just because some faggots grind their way to XXV-100 with their shitastic Mastertech builds on OVK games doesn't mean it's meta.
The same way that just because 80% of successful heists had a Vantage Point asset purchased doesn't mean it's meta.
The same way that just because Arteezy winning a pub game with carry mid Treant doesn't mean it's meta.
The same way that just because a bronze open player stomps a pub with a Baby's Face Blaster doesn't mean it's meta.
etc.
etc.

Your reasoning of "a good enough player can make anything possible so there can't be a meta" is retarded.

>>127889726
>Your reasoning of "a good enough player can make anything possible so there can't be a meta" is retarded.
No. Its spot on and it just proves you're a shittier.

Is there any reason to NOT use the repeater? Because getting hundreds of headshots never gets old, havent used anything else since I bought it. At least 15 kills per go, pierces shields, great rate of fire; i bought a light machine gun for close range and I still end up doing better quickscoping with the winny. The killing potential is just insane, when other run I simply stand there and kill everyone before they kill me. End up getting like 300 kills on hoxton and shit, get some bodyarmor and you have plenty of time to get off multiple headshots and get back into cover. Basically nothing "counters" me, can defeat any enemy in the right circumstances. Shines the most as a shield killer, I put down shields like I was born to do it. Two headshots right through the shield and theyre dead on deathwish. Needs tons of ammo but it goes great with enforcer ammo, its great firing off a repeater 25 times before reloading.

Honestly does any weapon compete? Ive been looking and I always feel weak when Im not using it now

Does hostage taker work on jokered cops?

>>127889807
It proves that you're a retard.

>>127890097
Okay "meta hopping" shitter, get me know when you try to git gud rather than be carried by shitty broken mechanics.

>>127889950
I'm having deja vu of kenny's dw berserker rattlesnake stories.
and 28 downs

>>127890230
Dont know who that is, but if he's the "shoot first, think about the objective later" type, then he's my kind of man. Really though Id like to know if any weapon matches this kill potential because I havent found it

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http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=14711

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>>127890850
>http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=14711

for what purpose was this made

>>127847404
>playtime in DW loud

what the fuck

>>127891137
I didn't even know there was a tongue model in the game.

UPDATE

>>127894657
its nothing

>>127887865
Bleed the fuck out you SJW.

>>127895312
>rant about how OVK are shitheads and that free stat boosts don't make safes okay
>called a SJW for it
???

>>127895773
Kike enabling considered manly and straight here, boyo.

>>127887865
calm your autism senpai

>>127896392
>autism calms
>thread dies
LOVING IT

>>127897515
GET BACK IN THE THREAD BUDDY

>>127897609
We were never in the thread.

>>127895773
How are safes not okay?
This isn't a game where +1 conceal won't make or break the heist. You didn't need to by skins to be effective. Get your head out of your ass.Don't open safes and don't buy skins if you don't want to.

>>127898804
You're right. That's why I'm using custom DMCWO script which adds whatever buff I desire to my weapon. Who cares about it, It's a coop game after all!

>>127899575

Minor stat boosts are fucking nothing.
Overkill is greedy and incompetent, I agree, but explosives are more p2w than skins ever were.

>>127899719
Yeah, It's just another nail in the coffin for this game.

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>>127899719

And they only exist because we allowed the slippery slope grenades to pass by.

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Is there any skill for public games better than Inspire Ace?

>>127885758
how can one man be so bad?

>>127889950
Overkill babby spoted

>>127902553
Yes, Mosconi + Overkill.

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You know what's the best part about transport jobs ?

It's that pubbies just don't give a fuck about the objectives or speeding things up by taking a saw or shaped charges. Don't want to even imagine the consoles versions.

>>127903573
Transport Jobs are my GO Bank in the sense that the Crime.net screen begs me to play them with promises of bonus exp

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Oy vey, why don't you have already your FWB, Slaughter and christmas safes, do you hate your free content this much /pdg/ ?

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>>127902553
Control Freak aced so i don't have to worry about any civilians the shitter kills.

>>127904606
Literally do those on normal just to clear them out. Shits so annoying.

>That guy who puts all the civies in that tiny copy machine room in H&T
Stop doing that shit you stupid fucks, best way to lose all our hostages when a shield shows up.

>>127902553
shaped charges so i dont need to suffer that shit for more than 5 mins

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>>127903573
>white chains

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>>127906584
>he actually prefers to leave all his cities scattered around the lobby where most of the fights take place,

It's like you're begging for a disaster.

>caring about hostages

playig with your hud turned off is pretty fun

>>127912373
This I can get behind, shit is so fucking retarded nowadays that even the FWB manager gets highlighted if you take too long. Take down all the HUD info and objective markers and let people listen to bain. He does a good job of explaining shit if you disregard rats cooking instructions. Let players make a little effort to do things properly and rely on audio cues and stuff integrated into the map instead of running to the objective and pressing f.

>>127910150
>there are only two locations to put hostages on the map

retard pls

>>127903573
I fucking love transport jobs. I especially love it when pubs can't figure out exactly why c4 is useful and whine that it's useless unless there's a total of 12 charges for 3 trucks. Even when we get 4 trucks.

Or when you throw the last bag in, wait at the van, and watch them all scurrying around, each individually chacking each truck, instead of the chat window where you just told them it was done.

>>127914986
Not op, but I never move hostages except when they are too close to the front entrance. They are spread out enough to save some, but honestly it's just a pain to move them to a safe spot. I like tieing the tellers because they are in a relatively safe spot already.

>>127915742
I just secure 2 and let the rest leave. They're a liability and a pain.

So in something I didn't even know was an option on Steam, Overkill just turned off and deleted the comments section on the community post in my activity feed?

20 mins ago it mostly had giant ASCII middle fingers flipping them off and saying Fuck You Overkill, now the entire section of comments and option to write one is literally gone.

>>127915501
Transport heists are the most boring anyway. If you are lucky, you'll have a decent crew. But if not, you are looking at 20 minutes of killing cops and waiting for cops. God help you if nobody brings a saw.

>>127915501

What is the advantage of C4'ing just one truck? At least if you can blow 3 you can get enough loot to finish the heist, without having to drill anything. If you only have one guy with C4, or if you want to get all loot, you have to drill anyways, so you might as well bring some other deployable.

I hear you about pubs not listening though.

>Birth of Sky
>tell them to stay by the ramp while you run to the button
>just run past all the useless murkies, hit the button and jump down
>they're all pinned down at the front of the plane by the skulldozer

>>127916784
I don't do them unless I have both saw and c4 myself.

>>127916930
>What is the advantage of C4'ing just one truck?

Bagging the first bit of loot is the trigger for the van being sent. You should be done by the end of the first assault wave.

>>127917139

But you have to wait around for the other trucks' drills to finish before you can actually leave anyways

>>127917291
Yes. But if you don't c4 one, you wave to drill and then still wait for the van. Come on, anon, this isn't rocket surgery.

>>127916930
>>127917291
You are the pub shitter, anon.

>>127917456

In my experience there's always at least one drill still going when the van arrives, because depending on their positions you can't keep the cops off all of them while staying in cover.

>>127917634

I am the one who carries

>>127916930
Yeah, the BoS bit always gets me. No matter which difficulty you play, some CTV n00b always thinks it's useful to go down at the middle point. Worst part is that they don't even make it back to the rear of the plane without going down again. It's a miracle that I was able to get the 123 jump with pubs.

>>127903259
Its 3 headshots through the shield on overkill. Same concept, would like to know of a weapon with similar potential as an all-rounder because its getting old using the same gun

>>127919168
*Deathwish

C4 would be decent if it used the grenade slots.
Having to give up on ammo bags/medibags/fak to skip a 3 minutes drill isn't worth it.

>>127919954
I was thinking that shaped charges shouldn't be a skill and that you should be able to use tripmines as c4 without spending extra skill points that way there would be a reason to use them when not fully trained, just like ecms. People with only a few points in technician would only be able to open safes together. They could also use the open spot for a skill that actually helps in combat.

>>127919954
>>127921148

My friend and I were commenting the other day that C4 is the only deployable you can never purchase as an asset. Even Sentries you can get in the Golden Grin, but general-purpose, not-objective-specific C4? Nope.

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>>127914287
>if you disregard rats cooking instructions,

Shit is simple, once you hear the second part of his speech, you always know which ingredient is the right one.

>>127919954
>not hosting
>not making other people bring "necessary" shit for you.
Really, most missions its nice to have one person with c4.

I wish there was some kind of chrome skin for the Judge.

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>>127922882
I wish there was some kind of anime skins for the CMP.

>>127922024
I agree that it's simple, but bains other instructions are clear right away, while rats instructions are misleading on purpose. I'm not saying they are a bad addition, but I'd like to see players being forced to notice their surroundings and listen to clues rather than just heading for the marker straight away. But maybe it's too much to ask, getting pubs to work as a team for something simple like the BB hacking part is challenging enough as it is.

>>127923354
>But maybe it's too much to ask

but IT'S too much to ask. Just go on a random Lab Rats game or Car Shop stealth and you will understand how badly shitters are conditioned to push the first button they see.

>>127923354
>>127924097
i was trying to do Alesso for my hard mask yesterday

jesus christ, i had to kick at least 10 sub infamy under 50 people because they would not fucking listen and stay out of the button room while i was trying to do the pyros

they kept running in and just mashing whatever they saw in there, no matter how much i told them to fuck off, voice or text, made no difference

how do these people dress themselves in the morning