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Continue to Maintain HOPE!

Use spoiler tags (Ctrl+S)!
Don't forget her!
Don't forget them.

>News
New Project Trailers Released!

New Dangan Ronpa V3 is scheduled to be released in 2016 on PSVita and PS4.
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfMqURJ3ZfE

Dangan Ronpa 3 will be a new anime scheduled for release in 2016.
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9AQjGxQGdw

Interviews with Danganronpa Writer and Creator Kazutaka Kodaka
http://nichegamer.com/2015/03/danganronpa-interview-with-writer-and-creator-kazutaka-kodaka/
https://archive.today/4MSAe

Some new info about DR3/DRV3
http://gematsu.com/2015/12/new-danganronpa-v3-scrum-panic-debates

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/MUdQJedT

>Downloads/Manga/Novels/Character Charts
http://pastebin.com/nrKWzjSY

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Hey guys I'm still kinda new to the Danganronpa series and just caught up with DR1 and DR2. Now that V3 is coming out on consoles with the PS4, what other consoles would it be on after that? Since I don't know if PS4 could carry out the whole new V stuff for another 5 years?
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More info when
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>>127487963
I remember someone posting that the NX had caught the team's interest, but I don't have the source on hand. I really hope they try to move to VR in one form or another, I think the game would work well on it.
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>>127487963
NX and PS5. Now stfu with this shit fuck.
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>>127488295
Don't be a dick to new posters unless you want to update the FAQ, Toko
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>>127488295

Wow I was just asking a question. I'm still new here so I was only trying to get some insight is all.

>>127488136
Yeah I think VR would definitely be cool to have for a DR game. I mean the visual novel is cool as it is but imagine being involved with trials in VR?
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>hinamiki
The only acceptable Mikan pairing, while you have those (stupid, might I add) ships like Komamiki and Komahina that don't make a lick of a sense.


Post your favorite ships. O-O-Or don't, I don't really care...
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>>127487963
Ignore the rude anon.

But to answer your question it was said by the team that they wanted to work with the NX after the PS4 so there's that depending on how NX does.

And hypothetically the PS5 only because I don't see DR abandoning the Sony platforms plus PS5 may also support VR if it's successful on PS4.
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>come back to a sudden angry outburst in the last thread

Jesus Christ, Chiakifags might be misguided plebs with no taste but they've been a staple of /drg/ from the start and they contribute more to the survival of this general (and to general conversation) than most anyone else.

>the general should just die then

Fair enough. Pretend it has and fuck off, nobody will miss you.

>>127488553

Ignore the Pekofag, newfriend. He shows up every now and again to throw tantrums and pick fights with people at random. You can tell who he is because he types like he's on skype and projects the attitude of a /v/ shitposter with every post.
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Goatee guy dies, calling it now.
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>>127489020
Best taste.
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>>127488786
Femeada x Femnata

>>127489020
4/5 acceptable tier are absolute worst tier (Aoi is Pump and Dump as fuck) and Toko and Genocider aren't even separated.
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>>127488786
Komahina I might be able to understand but Komamiki I never understood

And Hinamiki might have some merit if you count those fanservice scenes, some FTE that can apply to everyone

Or

the ongoing speculation that Izuru fucked Mikan who has Junko's ovaries just so she can get pregnant with Junko's babies
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>>127489020
Can I apply myself softly to a Chiaki?
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>>127489020
Kill yourself you faggot. You're the reason this board has gone to shit with all these faggy newcomers
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Best bro

Not gay
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>>127489307
>Genocider aren't even separated.

Toko and Genocider are a package deal, you don't get one without the other. Besides they're both acceptable tier.
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>>127489620
So I'm a "faggy newcomer" just because I asked a question? OK then I guess I learned my lesson.

>>127489020
And thanks! I really gotten into the DR series after playing the first two and I'm totally hyped for the anime and V3.
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>>127489620

Go back to your containment board, you spastic manchild.
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>>127489620
Fuck off already
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>>127490028
Go back to the asylum you autistic piece of shit or stay in your mom's basement eating pizza bagels and jacking off to waifu shit
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>>127488786
best canon ship
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>>127490141
Kill yourself first manchild.
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Ignore the pekofag you hopeless ones
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Makoto's babes.
>With a missing Mukuro
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>>127490518
Kill yourself Chiakifag. Drink bleach and let this shitty board die already

And I don't even like Peko shows how retarded you are
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>>127490603
Makoto the Ultimate Lucky Bitch
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>>127487963
NX and PS5

And maybe Steam if it continues getting popular
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>>127491351
You'd think by PS5 time they'd solve the smartphone controls issue and it could be the true successor to the 3ds/vita. Doesn't feel like it'd be that hard for sony to create a better playstation phone than that shitshow they tried a few years ago with the xperia play or w/e.
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>tfw still no danganronpa on steam with HD sprites and facerig compatability
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>>127488786
>That feel when my favorite ship is overall just frowned upon or not cared for.

I like it and that's all I need.
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>>127491605
I'm sure they should have all that stuff fixed with the PS5 by that time period. While for the handheld stuff, they'll probably stick with the NX handheld if it has one to replace the Vita assuming PS5 also doesn't give you better mobile options though gut feeling is they'd probably work more with the VR stuff.

And if the rumors are true about NX using free form display, it could work pretty well with DR especially since it's a visual novel to begin with.

And eww the Xperia brings back so many chills
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>>127489307
>Aoi is Pump and Dump as fuck

Brown tits and ass always get a pass, friend-o.
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>>127492231
>not wanting the tanned, fertile, best toned body in the entire series
Wow anon, just wow
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>>127492656
>Tan lines
Disgusting, I prefer it when artists make Aoi completely brown rather than that. It's why I love Akane art, I don't think I've ever seen her with tanlines outside of one CG set.
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>>127492936
>Akane over Aoi
We're just going to have to stop talking anon.
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>>127492656
Let it be known that Togami fucked her donuthole first in the bad ending
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>>127493104
>bad end
matter of perspective
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>>127493093
Never said I preferred her, simply that Akane's art turns out to be better when I look for it. I'd rank them about equally, to be honest, I'd find a way to hook up with both of them, but to do that I'd need to Kenichiro, Nekomaru or Sakura.
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>>127493317
>It's a matter of perspective

It's a matter of fact since you know his kid's the oldest, Makoto's second and Yasuhiro'a the youngest

>now I wish the bad ending happen
>imagine the tears from fags everywhere
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>>127493798
I'm saying the idea of that ending being bad was a matter of perspective. Having a dedicated fuckhole in a relatively nice living environment where everything is provided is not such a sad life.
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>>127493904
Oh then nvm

And yeah I only say it's "bad" because that's how they call it though I'd probably call it the alternate ending

plus I like this ending more than real ending with the HOPE FUH U ND U ND U 2!!! Plus AsahIna actually serves a purpose in this ending.
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>>127493798
I get it togamifag, you want to be Togami's personal cuck, but chill the fuck out already.
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>>127493798
>It's a matter of fact since you know his kid's the oldest, Makoto's second and Yasuhiro'a the youngest

Boy did that one go over your head.
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>>127493904
Idk. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable living my life in a school that has all my dead classmates stashed away somewhere, a crazy mastermind and her murderous teddy bear watching over me, and well the possibility of never getting out or raising kids knowing they'll grow up and die inside the school as well

Though free Asahina pussy and free unlimited food is pretty enticing
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>>127494286
Cry harder Ishimarufag

>>127494389

Yeah no shit retard I already said so
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>>127494534
Let's not forget how well she's rebounded after 3 kids. And to birth them with no medical assistance. She may just be the ultimate childbearer
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>>127494704
>Yeah no shit retard I already said so
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>>127494845
No doubt. That bitch still looks healthy as ever despite popping out 3 kids one recently born from the looks of Hagakure's kid. The alternate ending really does Aoi wonders and shows off her true talents. She's the true Ultimate Hope

>With a side order of Ultimate Slut
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>>127489020
How the fuck are Sakura and Mukuro the highest? And Hiyoko is higher than my faves? Fuhark!
>>127489620
Quit niggering around.
>>127492656
I love fit chicks as well, though I agree with >>127492936
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>>127495380
>How the fuck are Sakura and Mukuro the highest?

Technically Ibuki is the highest, Angels cannot be compared to Humans fairly.

>And Hiyoko is higher than my faves? Fuhark!

One must not be too hasty in their consideration of Hiyoko. She has yet to reach her final form.
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>>127489020
How the fuck is Hiyoko near the top?
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>>127489307
Oooh where's the Fem!Komaeda and Fem!Hajime image from?
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are there any legitimate plot holes in the DR series

I mean real plot holes, not "wow it was stupid (but physically possible) for them to do [thing]"
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>>127496161
Maybe some in 2-3?
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>>127496161
How is Ibuki able to hear and remember everyone in the room during the blackout, but she can't tell that teruterus voice is coming under the floor boards?
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>>127496161

In the newest official book, Twogami beats up Togami and steals his clothes and shit so that he can impersonate him via broadcast. When this happens, Ultimate Despair are already formed and plunging the world into chaos on behalf of Junko. Yet in DR2, Twogami's pre-hope's peak avatar and personality was already based around impersonating Togami, even though timeline wise that plan shouldn't have happened until much later.
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>>127493798
>tears from fags everywhere

Puh lease

The only tears will be from Sayakafags, Mukurofags, Kyokofags, and Tokofags who would be jelly that Makoto and Byakuya ducked best girl before they fucked their waifus pre corpse.
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>>127496597
Damn that shit just pisses me off. Are these little spin off books actually canon?
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>>127496597
>Beats up Togami

No he just simply stole Togami's clothes and everything when he was probably sleeping or something

And hey maybe they won't canonize the novel's events
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>>127496652
I don't wanna get in waifuwars but that whole sequence isn't the actual future. Makoto is just imagining living an entire life in the school
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>>127496810
From what I heard I only know the Naegi's Unlucky day one and IF aren't.
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>>127496597
Maybe Twogamj was simply practicing his disguise pre despair? They never said in the novel it was the first time he took Togami's identity nor the first time he tried it out.
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>>127496161
>How did Byakuya get into the girls locker room, and why didn't anyone question that first before how Chihiro got in?
>If Genocider's memories are separate from Touko's, why didn't she tell anyone or mention that the world was in peril OR that they were friends before?
>If Junko literally got Slam Jammed, how were the remnants of Despair able to attach themselves with her body parts?
>You never actually confirm if the freezer WAS holding the dead bodies, they could literally be anywhere.
>In SDR2, it's clearly stated that Monokuma was going to give people motives to kill each other as he himself cannot interfere, however chapter's reason for the killings was Despair Fever, something that Monokuma literally gave to someone.
>In SDR2, it's stated you cannot liter OR destroy the environment or you'd be punished for it, however nothing happened to Nagito for literally blowing up the hotel.

Then there's shit people keep assuming isn't canon when it is.

>Fans often claim that the SDR2 kids are all different ages/different classes despite the fact Nagito mentioned that he looked everyone up in his class much like Makoto did in DR1 and the only person he didn't know was Hajime. On top of that, in Makoto's worse day of his lift, it's confirmed Nagito is part of the 77th class, thus canonically making the SDR2 kids the DR1 kids' senpais, but fans refuse this because fuck it.
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>>127497114
Unlucky is canon. IF is not. Unlucky doesn't contradict set canon. IF does. Hence the name.
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>>127497294
Yeah, but I read it isn't canon...
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>>127494704
>Cry harder Ishimarufag
Excuse you, but I did not partake in any of this discussion. There is no need to be so hostile.

>>127496161
2-3 has some weird discrepancies and logic in a few places, but that was to be expected considering it was changed one of the victims at the last minute.

One thing that's not quite related, but the abandoned plot thread from 2-1 where Hajime sees something outside doesn't ever go anywhere, nor is it ever explained.
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>>127497285
The second and fifth part aren't retcons. The former could literally be because Genocider Sho didn't come out a lot pre despair and during the killing game also not giving a single fuck about anyone that isn't Byakuya and the latter was already proven to carry the students bodies in there hence the active lights and you even see Mukuro's body was in there.
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>>127497447
There was going to be a plot thread about the thing he saw at 2-1?
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>>127496893
>No he just simply stole Togami's clothes and everything when he was probably sleeping or something


>Togami gets attacked in the Sedlec Ossuary during a weekend trip to Prague and is knocked unconscious. His identity and clothes are stolen, and the narrator carries him to a back alley to hide, covering him with a towel received from a local. When Togams wakes up he demands an explanation and then watches the Declaration of World Domination issued by (I presume) Twogami, where he basically tells the world that they’re all shitty crybabies and that if they can kill him or locate the “pitiful cow” in the next 24 hours, they’ll receive his power as a Togami. If they fail, he’ll crush them under his heel and take over the world for himself (though we all know that’s not who’s really going to take over).

http://jinjojess.tumblr.com/post/134467673833/right-i-should-probably-mention-the-plot-so-far

Seemed a lot like he was attacked and had his shit stolen when described by a person reading the book.
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>>127497285
The Byakuya one seems obvious to me, but it has been a while since I played the case so maybe I'm wrong. At the time of the incident there were 3 dead people: Sayaka, Mukuro, and Leon. Mondo used one of the girls handbooks to get into the locker room. Byakuya must've used the other
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>>127497698
How they knew about that rule or the location about the dead students IDs is another what the fuck since Monokuma never talked about where the dead people's IDs were IIRC
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>>127497698
But didn't Monokuma say if a boy tries to go in the girls change room they'd be shot down?
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>>127497285
That Nagito one comes up quite a bit, but he pretty much had permission from Monokuma to set the motive and engage in the wild ride, so it wouldn't surprise me if the "punishment" was something negligible.

I did always wonder why Nagito bothered cutting himself up and stabbing himself if he knew they'd see through that and his goal was the unsolvable case. Just plant the water grenade, lie down and set the fire.
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>>127497645
I took it more as Genocide Jack just doesn't give a fuck. In IF its pretty clear she knows Mukuro (calls her the Sullen Samurai). Her rationale is that they didn't ask, which I'd normally not accept but for a crazy obsessed idiot like Genocide Jack I could see it
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>>127498087
He said if you borrowed another person's ID card and use it to enter another gender's locker room you'd get shot down
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>>127497647
Well obviously it felt like it was going somewhere if they bothered to bring it up, but they just end up not doing anything with it.

>>127497285
>How did Byakuya get into the girls locker room, and why didn't anyone question that first before how Chihiro got in?
He explained it after the trial. He saw Mondo go out of the girls locker room, so he decided to find a way to do it himself, hence him mentioning that he found out about the abandoned e-handbooks during the investigation.
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>>127498201
Then we wouldn't have a case for the player to solve!
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>>127498004
He might've just found it; Mondo did.
>>127498004
Actually IIRC Monokuma says you can use dead students handbooks because they're not technically students anymore
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>>127498201
Because it's not truly unsolvable because he's Nagito. Nagito isn't stupid, he knows they'd know that he's relying on his luck if he makes it too easy on them
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>actual discussion
what the fuck is this
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>>127498295
But that wouldn't make sense since Chihiro was already set up in the Genocider Sho fashion so if he just found out about the dead people's IDs during the investigation, then clearly he wouldn't be able to move Chihiro's body in the first place since he wouldn't be able to get in.

Unless, Mondo left the door open by accident while running away like an idiot.
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>>127498362
I know he said that. But I don't recall him saying where the location of the IDs were

Then again I haven't played DR1 in a while.
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>>127498518
But it doesn't matter that they knew that. Nagito was under the assumption the traitor wouldn't reveal themselves, so he gave them the perfect outlet to escape and kill the despairs. Nagito had no clues as to who the traitor was and likely assumed that of the others, Hajime was the only one with even a clue.
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>>127498673
No, I meant he mentioned during investigation that he previously found out about the dead classmate's id cards. He probably meant when he saw Mondo leave the girls locker room, he decided to find out how to get in himself.
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>>127497285
Third point: I assume a trash compactor doesn't crush you to paste. All we know is Junko's hand was left relatively intact and that somebody tried to make babies with the pile of Junko. That seems possible to me.
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>>127498937
It does matter; why would he assume that nobody would be able to figure out the traitor just because he can't? Nagito knows he doesn't know everything, he doesn't call himself trash just for show
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>>127498201
My theory is still he tortured himself in order to detach himself from the simulation and get his real body ready for the shock of "death" which by comparison was very peaceful with poison. That's why his voice is popping up in DR3.
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>>127498878
It's not a plot hole because they could've found them independently, unlikely as it is to believe. Honestly Monokuma could've told them
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>>127499178
Post Final Dead Room Nagito is pretty damn full of himself.
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>>127499451
I don't think he's full of himself so much as he is disdainful of everyone else. He knows that not only are they not the ultimate hope, they're all ultimate despair except for one
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>>127499451
Cause he know's that they're all despair so he treats them how he treats himself. Except, yeah know, the two that aren't despair.
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>>127498965
I need to replay Chapter 2 because I know I'm remembering differently.
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>dr discussion in /drg/
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>>127499609
His whole "if I win, praise me" bit in early 2-6 was pretty damn full of himself.
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>>127499451
How is he full of himself? Besides Chiaki he knows that everyone but the traitor is an ID and knows the nature of the world they're trapped in. He sees them as people he has to defeat at all cost. As people he can't respect since he hates people he fights for despair
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>>127499928
Maybe he was overcompensating because he knew he was not the traitor and, thus, a member of the ultimate despair
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>that manlet
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>>127499740
During investigation, he mentions him previously coming across the old handbooks.

Then after the trial he explains that he saw Mondo leave the girls locker room. While it's not confirmed, you can infer that was when he found out because that's when he could have tied up Chihiro.

>>127500001
>Besides Chiaki he knows that everyone but the traitor is an ID and knows the nature of the world they're trapped in
But that doesn't sound right. He didn't know who the traitor was, nor that they were trapped in a simulation. It only told them that they were part of ultimate despair, that their memories where wiped, and that there was as mixing extra info (on Chiaki) to conceal who the real traitor was.
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>>127500538
The other poster was mistaken or worded his post poorly. He didn't know that Chiaki was the traitor. He knew that the traitor, of which there was one, worked for the FF. He knew everyone else was UD. He knew he himself was an UD. He also knew everything we saw in the notebook. That's the extent of Nagitos knowledge at death, I think
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>>127500001
>How is he full of himself?

>"I believe my actions will become the foundation of this world's hope"
>"And if that really happens... Praise me. Tell others what I've accomplished. Erect a bronze statue of me. Respect me. Please call me... the Ultimate Hope"
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>>127500538
>>127500897
I bet he did know about the simulation. The page we never saw talked about everyone being UD and probably mentioned why they were there. How else would he know Monokuma and Monomi's roles and where to go to escape them. Hell he called the password an easter egg used to skip steps.
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>>127501150
I believe he knew that but I can't remember any particular piece of evidence that confirms it. Could've sworn he says it in the recording. I'd go check but I'm on my phone
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>>127500538
I never said he knew for sure who the traitor was. He just knew that everyone BUT the traitor was UD and honestly even with that, it would be a way to pinpoint the traitor for sure since the people he saw on the handbook as UD wouldn't be the traitor. Iirc Chiaki also had a profile in there that Monokuma conjured up to throw people off even though Chiaki technically shouldn't have a profile page in that book. So if the UD info wasn't on Chiaki's profile, then Nagito would deduce she's the traitor.

The Japanese text even implies he may have found out who the traitor is or suspects since he says "Traitor-San" instead of kun which he'd refer to Hajime and any other guys but would call girls "San"

Since he knew Akane and Sonia were UD, it would just leave Chiaki by default.
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>>127500972
>because he wasn't the one who made a big move to taking down the ultimate despairs from rampaging the world some more.
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>years later and some parody of a smt anime is still the best depiction of ultimate despair that we have

Why is this allowed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCxZ7Zit7yc
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>>127501823
Why would he know chiakis profile was a fake

Why go through his plan if he knew Chiaki was the traitor
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>>127502143
Because he's trying to kill the UD and himself and let Chiaki escape?
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>The Danganronpa series doesn’t only get “V3″ with a new setting and completely new characters, but also the final part the finale “3″ for the story of “1″, “2″, and the spin-off, “Ultra Despair Girls”

So we are getting monaca in the anime if the DRAE story ends in the anime
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>>127502532
He could've come up with a better plan if he knew Chiaki was the traitor. Not to mention there is no evidence he knew
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>>127503581

Not that guy

I think Nagito knew, even after the FDRoom, Nagito nevers talks down or bashes Chiaki, i think Nagito wasnt lying about knowing about Chiaki.

The problem is that Nagito is a bit crazy, he thinks everyone shares the same mindset, in Nagito heads, he expected Chiaki to come out, and that everyone would simply accept death.

Not really straight in the head.
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How do you guys deal with the wait? I've been a train wreck ever since DR3/DRV3 got announced.
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>>127504578
I don't think he knew. Your evidence isn't good enough because he rarely interacts with Chiaki as it is. Not talking to Chiaki isn't the same as not talking down to Chiaki
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>>127504901

Ok i guess, Nagito was bluffing.

But still, he found out that everyone was despair, shat on Hajime, and technically only talked down Chiaki when it he was talking down everyone like this: "You plan on taking on FF, what a joke".

He either dont talk her down, or talk down everyone, but still, he is pretty ballsy cunt to pull that one off.

I wonder what he would have done.
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>>127504901
>He rarely interacts with Chiaki

That in itself is a weak defense and in no way refute the idea that he might have known. Plus they interacted quite a bit with Hajime outside of trials and inside trials.

Plus the idea that he knew who specifically were UD.....

Like cmon.

You act like Nagito's an idiot or something.

He might not have known for sure but just with the info he got he probably had a damn good idea who it was
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>>127505332
>Ok i guess, Nagito was bluffing.
if you mean he was bluffing in the sense that he was bluffing that he actually knew who the traitor was in the video, that's confirmed in the trial.
>>127505859
>That in itself is a weak defense and in no way refute the idea that he might have known.
Doesn't need to. Just needs to refute the idea that he gives Chiaki special treatment, which he doesn't.
>Plus they interacted quite a bit with Hajime outside of trials and inside trials.
the only time I remember Nagito ever talking to Chiaki was in 2-4 when he gets the report, and even then it's just him talking to Hajime and Chiaki together. Chiaki also tells Nagito to shut up in 2-1 but he doesn't respond.
>You act like Nagito's an idiot or something.
No, I act like he wasn't privy to information he didn't have.
>He might not have known for sure but just with the info he got he probably had a damn good idea who it was
What info did he have that distinguished Chiaki from any other student?
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>>127506401
>What info does Nagito have that distinguished Chiaki from the others

Did you not read my earlier comments? The fact that he has the information on the students being UD was enough to atleast give him an idea on who the traitor could be. Chiaki also had a profile page which she wasn't supposed to but Monokuma did so but it was never said on there if Chiaki was UD or not.

That's the one thing that keeps this idea afloat especially since the Japanese version seemed to imply that he may have known who it was or at least had a good idea who it was

Hence the "Traitor san" remark.

He would have said "Traitor kun" if he was talking about Hajime and the other guys, but he didnt. He refers to females and older figures as "san".
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>>127503292
Of course
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>>127506992
>Did you not read my earlier comments? The fact that he has the information on the students being UD was enough to atleast give him an idea on who the traitor could be. Chiaki also had a profile page which she wasn't supposed to but Monokuma did so but it was never said on there if Chiaki was UD or not.
Yeah I did, and that's shit evidence. Nagito doesn't know her page is fake, and if you're pointing to anything other than the report for "information on the students being UD" I'd like to hear it.
>That's the one thing that keeps this idea afloat especially since the Japanese version seemed to imply that he may have known who it was or at least had a good idea who it was. Hence the "Traitor san" remark. He would have said "Traitor kun" if he was talking about Hajime and the other guys, but he didnt. He refers to females and older figures as "san".
I don't know how to speak Japanese so I can't comment. But there were two other girls there and there is no evidence to say that he distinguished Chiaki from Sonia or Akane
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>>127507402
That's why I said he then had an IDEA. He could have just assumed who it was and may have been correct but he just put two and two together

Don't be retarded. Akane is clearly out of the question since it's Akane. Sonia.... is Sonia. Who could else would it literally be? Nagito may have simply just used his brain and found out who it most likely would have been out of those 3. He used his luck. Hence the whole part of his plan

And again I never said he knew for sure. Just that he had AN IDEA.

Assumption =/= 100% confirmation
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>>127508316
>That's why I said he then had an IDEA. He could have just assumed who it was and may have been correct but he just put two and two together. Don't be retarded. Akane is clearly out of the question since it's Akane. Sonia.... is Sonia. Who could else would it literally be? Nagito may have simply just used his brain and found out who it most likely would have been out of those 3. He used his luck. Hence the whole part of his plan
Are you drunk? Your entire argument is "nah it couldn't be them." Why not? From Nagito's perspective they'd be just as likely as the sleepy girl.
>And again I never said he knew for sure. Just that he had AN IDEA.Assumption =/= 100% confirmation
Because you don't have any evidence! Everything is based on Nagito using the "-san" honorific and you deciding for some reason that he's not talking about Akane or Sonia! You'd think that if he actually figured it out the game, including the English version, would've bothered to give actual hints. Instead his entire plan revolves around his luck because he DOESN'T know who the traitor is
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>>127508779
You're simply retarded it would seem because he's literally not going to assume the dumb brown girl or the weird princess girl would be traitors over the smart gamer girl who knows everything about everything which makes sense since it's a virtual world

AND since you don't know the context of the Japanese text you can't go on acting like it's not valid since the Japanese text is the true text but sure you can stick to the half assed misinterpreted localized English text if you like.
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>>127508779
And his plan revolves around luck because he's trying to make an impossible murder so the UD COULDN'T figure it out hence off with their heads so no. Besides hoping he got the traitor out or hoping the traitor was the one who killed him his luck was going on the idea that they never solve the case
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>>127508779
>>127509623


But it was already confirmed that Mukuro liked Makoto. Along with Sayaka and Kyoko. I'm not sure why this is still a debate?
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>>127509371
>You're simply retarded it would seem because he's literally not going to assume the dumb brown girl or the weird princess girl would be traitors over the smart gamer girl who knows everything about everything which makes sense since it's a virtual world
Are you trying to say that Nagito is working from your own weird waifu perspective? Nagito was privy to literally none of the evidence that Hajime presented to prove that Chiaki was the traitor. Your theory is fanfiction.
>AND since you don't know the context of the Japanese text you can't go on acting like it's not valid since the Japanese text is the true text but sure you can stick to the half assed misinterpreted localized English text if you like.
Unless you have something more to add other than this bogus "-san vs. -kun" argument it means nothing.
>>127509623
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
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>>127510626
So you don't know what you're talking about.

K got it. But continue clinging on to the English text as your proof

And since you apparently can't read. I never said he knew who it was 100% but you know. You and reading comprehension don't get along apparently.

>>127510401
What are you talking about? Nobody even mentioned those guys
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>PANIC!!!
Guess these are the panic debates?
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>>127510626
>>127511086

Oh I thought you guys were arguing about Mukuro's feelings for Makoto along with Kyoko's and Sayaka's. Since its been confirmed they liked him even Mukuro.
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>>127511086
You turn to insults because you lack for evidence. I don't speak Japanese it's true, but you've presented no differences in the Japanese version that would confirm your suspicions other than "he wouldn't trust the brown girl." Further, you've proven untrustworthy enough that I don't completely trust your interpretations of the Japanese version as it is.
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>>127510401

Mukuro liking Makoto is DG IF shit, not canon.

Sayaka merely felt bad about fucking another person.

And Kyoko was pretty much the same.

Naegi is gonna die a virgin.
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>>127511157
Would suggest so.

How does /drg/ feel about the UI style we've seen so far? I think they're doing a good job of making it fresh and creating a new theme
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>>127511157
Yep. And Goatee kun looks absolutely livid.

Not sure what to say about Raiden kun. It's like they make it look like he's the protag in that pic but idk
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>>127509371
It's been a long time since I read Case 5, so I might be misremembering the specifics, but I personally don't see anything special in Komaeda's use of "traitor-san". "-san" is gender neutral, and is used as default. There's absolutely nothing unusual about using "-san" as an honorific for somebody you're unfamiliar with or don't know the exact identity of. To my knowledge, the only time Komaeda even referred to the traitor with an honorific was during his video message, when he thought he was addressing them directly. It came across as more taunting than knowing to me, trying to get the traitor, whoever the might have been, to reveal themselves. It totally sounded like he was bluffing.

If anything, the only thing that not specifically using "-kun" implies is that he wasn't 100% the traitor was male. It's possible that Komaeda might have known Nanami was the traitor beforehand, but "traitor-san" is very weak evidence of that. I think it has no validity as an argument.
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>>127511368
I fucking love it
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>>127511303

Nobody expects Akane to be a bad person because she is dumb ass fuck.
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>>127511519
and nobody expected Sayaka to be the killer because she's a sweet idol. This is Danganronpa, people aren't completely what they seem from first glance.
>>127511475
Thank you
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>>127511303
K again believe what you want and what makes you sleep better. Idc

>>127511357

They showed some evidence of her feelings for him being true from the IF shit with the whole "she only looked in the cameras if he was taking them" which seemed to be true in the game from those pictures

And Sayaka has been wanting to bone him since that crane incident. Then shit happened

And Kyoko has been trying to bone him since..... idk when Sayaka died?

besides they'll bone in the end of DR3 so he's not dying a virgin
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>>127511736
the ATTEMPTED killer, I should say. Not that there is morally any difference.
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>>127511736

>This is Danganronpa

But for the characters, its real life, they have no medium awereness unless made by the author.
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>>127511941
And they should be even more on guard and suspicious than the player. If I were a member of the killing game I wouldn't dismiss anybody as "too dumb" for anything.
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>>127511475
It kinda does because "traitor san" implies he was sure it wasn't a male. But let's see how your even more vague evidence if you can call it that compares. How did Nagito get first hand info beforehand about Chiaki being a traitor?
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>>127511519
Thank you. The anon with the retarded argument thinking Akane could be a traitor could share this logic with you
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>>127512029
You're illiterate. It makes me sad to see. Please reread my post, and consider what 'gender-neutral' means.
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>>127512026

I didn know Togami shitposted on /vg/
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>>127511475
And you remember wrong and need to rewatch because Nagito definitely did call out the traitor with "Traitor San " in front of everyone in the breakfast hall. Trying to goad them into revealing themselves
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>>127512228
What part of that was shitposting? People thought Mikan was too meek to murder two people until she wasn't. I don't accept that Nagito is so stupid he'd just chalk up Akane as an Ultimate Despair because she's too stupid to work for the Future Foundation.
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>>127512221
You're a fucking retard. You're the one who literally doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to gender neutral and I'm still waiting for your so called "proof" on how Nagito had first hand info on Chiaki being a traitor beforehand
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>>127512565
>Nagito had first hand info on Chiaki being a traitor beforehand
aren't you supposed to be the one trying (and failing) to prove that one
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remember when this was a waifu thread and people bitched about it
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>>127512228
I wouldn't bother with that anon. Apparently he thinks Akane of all people could be the traitor. The girl who could barely tie her shoes

Akane the dumb gorilla or Chiaki the know it all gamer in a virtual world.

Gee I wonder
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>>127512710
don't forget Sonia, whose only distinguishing feature you've come up with is that she's "weird"? The Future Foundation takes Hagakure but apparently Nagito has dismissed the idea that they'll take weirdos for some reason.
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>>127512368
You're right, I forgot that. It's been a long time. At any rate, it's always when he thought he might have been speaking to the traitor, in an attempt to, as you said, goad them into revealing themselves.

>>127512565
You're a a funny one. I don't think you're interested in having a good faith discussion.
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>>127512662
>It's possible that Komaeda might have known Nanami was the traitor beforehand

Implying you can somehow prove this? That is what you said. If my "traitor San " remark couldn't ring any bells in whatever that resembles a brain in your head, then I'm sureeeee you must have another method on how he may have known

Cmon anon I'm waiting
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>>127512431

Well, nagito has his flaws too, he thinks everyone gets what he is saying.

Althrough Gundamn can excused because he was guilty, Nagito barely bothered to explain how the Funhouse spiral gondola worked.

He thinks people are way better than what they are, he is essencially a teenager Mr. Rogers.
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>>127512979
I'm not interested in trying to make arguments in things I don't think happened. Nagito didn't know Chiaki was the traitor.
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>>127512710
Not anyone in this discussion but Akane was the Ultimate Sinner in beta and the big bad, so it's not completely outside the realm of possibility.
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>>127512945
Because when you try and basically act like your proof is somehow more valid than my own, then of course egos will clash.

And it's funny how I never said it was confirmed he knew who it was tho
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>>127513008
actions speak louder than words. His entire plan hinged on using his luck to find the traitor. He pleads for two days for the traitor to reveal themselves. Chiaki laments that she was unable to get him to act more rationally because she was physically unable to reveal himself. Literally nothing in the game suggests he knew.
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>>127513070
K so you don't have an acutal argument for your statement and decided to bow out.

K. That's what you should have done from the beginning instead of talking nonsense
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>>127513235

He said he observed people's behavior.

If Junko knew about AEgo despite having no cameras in the changing room, it isnt too far fatched to Nagito to play spy.
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>>127513363
I'm not interested in making your argument for you. If you have better evidence than Nagito using a gender-neutral honorific lets hear it.
>>127513374
Junko knew about Alter Ego because Sakura told her. Also she'd have to be an idiot not to know after the conclusion of 1-3. Nagito gives no evidence of knowing that Chiaki's the spy and his actions suggest he didn't.
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>>127511357
>Fucked another person

Who did Sayaka fuck? Who did Kyoko fuck?
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>>127513676
well Sayaka fucked Leon pretty bad
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>>127513596

None of Nagito actions suggested he didn know either.

You are simply denying arguments because you think of them as "too weak", literally nuh uh, the post.

We are literally having a Machinegun take battle with you.
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>>127511357
>Mukuro liking Makoto is DG IF shit, not canon.
IF events are canon till the point were mukuro is about die

she did like him
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>>127513596
Because you never had any argument or anything relevant to say in the matter so you decided to spend 10 minutes of it sounding like some ignorant idiot.

But if that's making my argument for me, then I can't wait until you have an argument against me.
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>>127513189
I understand. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm not listening to your arguements. But because of how the Japanese language works, using "-san" to refer to someone you don't know is not an indicator of gender, no matter how Komaeda may normally refer to his peers. I consider this to be a fact, and that's why I think "Traitor-san" is weak evidence to prove that Komaeda believed the traitor to be female. That's all I can contribute to the discussion.
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>>127513797
I wouldn't bother with that anon. He apparently thinks he knows what constitutes as proof and not proof yet hardly factors in anything proof worthy himself
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>>127513815

But muh fanfiction tho.
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>>127513941
Well I'll apologize for firing off and being hostile. Again I was only looking at a hypothetical of Nagito MIGHT having a clue on who it was. I never said anything about him knowing for sure and I wouldn't do so since he most likely didn't know for sure

>>127513737
Didn't she like fuck her manager or something
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>>127513797
>None of Nagito actions suggested he didn know either.
So you're requiring me to prove a negative rather than accepting what the characters in the game accepted. Further, I'd say the act of killing himself and using his luck to determine the traitor is pretty good evidence that he didn't know who the traitor was.
>>127513823
All I'm waiting for you is to name one piece of evidence other than the disproved honorific evidence. Your ad hominem just belies how desperate you are.
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If Nagito knew Chiaki was the traitor why didn't his fake bomb disarm when she scanned her handbook?
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DRV3 soundtrack when
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>>127514361

Because he didn know how to program, the entire thing was a well planned fake.

Also, to honorific anon:

Nagito does know anyone on the island, the boys and girls are on equal level to him, so does Nagito refers to boys with -kun suffix, and -san suffix to the women?
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>>127514362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ-3MMINgmo
Danganronpa V3 news when. Release date when.
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>>127514298
Until you provide an argument, whatever you say now is irrelevant.
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>>127514762
I've continually provided an argument. The fact Nagito had no evidence with which to deduce Chiaki as the traitor and the fact that his act of killing himself to single out the traitor suggest that he didn't know who the traitor was.
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>>127514540
I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Are you asking why Komaeda refers to boys with "-kun" even though he doesn't know them? Or do you just want to confirm that Komaeda uses "-kun" for his male peers and "-san" for the females?
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>>127513676
Well Sayaka apparently said she did "bad things " to get to the top in her career. Won't be surprised if she gave some head or fucked some older men to get far in the business. Bitch seemed determined.

But who she WANTED to fuck would be the guy she liked or she said she was "interested" in. Clearly it's not Leon so it's obviously Makoto especially with that crane shit.

And Kyoko is as virigin as you can be. Makoto is gonna deflower those giris for sure
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>>127515103

Both boys and girls are on the same to Nagito, they are all strangers to him.

So why the diference of suffix usage? Why not reffer to everyone as -san? He has no familiarity with any of the guys.
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>>127515154
>Makoto is gonna deflower those giris for sure
or he dies in the Anime
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>>127515154
What's hilarious is that Sayaka wanted to fuck Makoto at the beginning. Hopping on his dick like she did with this "I'm your personal assistant" shit and what not. After incentive has been shown, she is a mess and a tornado of emotions and Makoto calms her down somewhat crying on his chest and shit.

If Makoto wasn't a faggot, the moment she came to his room with her plan and saying she had no problem sharing the same room as him, he jumps the gun and makes his move on her. I doubt she would resist that long and he fucks her. Calms her down and makes her forget her retarded plan or too exhausted to do anything. Leon bangs on the door for some time but due to Makoto and Sayaka bumping uglies, they don't hear him and he goes away thinking he got stood up.

Problem fucking solved and nobody would die. Makoto is such a passive faggot it's ridiculous
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>>127515539
>Or he dies in the Anima

Lol. Makoto and the rest of the survivors have hope filled plot armor. Makoto is gonna be fine. Why else would Kodaka change DR3 from a game to anime?

>wah I don't why class trials so they can die again wah way
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>>127516102
>what can we do in anime that we can't do in a game?
Killing the MC/Player Character is certainly an option. It's literally the only thing Monaka can do to 1-up Junko. It would not surprise me at all for him to die.
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>>127513815
sayaka is alive in if up to spear piercing
makoto's memories including the killing game itself, which is why he was able warned mukuro

if is a mess(which is why it can fit into canon)
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>>127516102
the fact that they make it seems like V3 is still the in the same universe means the anime does not end well

after all the say V means victory in the name Despairs wins in DR3
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>>127516102
What makes you think they'll pull any punches in DR3? It's the end of Hope's Peak, if any SHSL kid walks out alive I'll be mildly surprised.
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>>127515350
"-kun" isn't actually as familiar as it might seem to be. For a boy Komaeda's age, it would usually come across as very strange and too distant to refer to a male classmate the same age as you with "-san." So he uses "-kun", the default for males of equal standing to call each other. He calls the females "-san" because in Japanese society, that's the default and there's no acceptable equivalent to "-kun". If he called them by any other honorific, he'd come across as very rude. Whether you call someone by their first or last name is usually a more significant indicator of the relationship than the honorific, for our purposes.

However, when talking about someone you don't necessarily know the identity of, it's more normal to use "-san", especially when it's at the end of a noun. For example, you don't call the fishmonger "魚屋", you call him "魚屋さん" (Fishmonger-san.) A doctor could be called お医者さん (Doctor-san) instead of Whoever-sensei. Adding "-san" is just what naturally happens when you're addressing somebody by their occupation. Gender has nothing to do with it. In this case, 裏切り者さん as opposed to 裏切り者 (even though 裏切り者 with the honorific is more common, because you usually don't respect a traitor). It can also happen when you personify animals and stuff like that (犬さん/Dog-san) That's why I don't think "Traitor-san" is very significant in terms of gender.

Incidentally, Ishimaru calls both males and females "-kun", but that's a whole 'nother bag of worms.
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>>127515873

Case 2, Naegi suckerpunches Togami or holds Ishimaru with a full nelson and let Mondo beat him.

And call Togami on a fact he forgot, theres no guarantee the Beat wont simply kill you on the end, also known as the house always win.

They didn know about world being fucked, so in their minds, some of them had contacts that "could" fuck Monokuma, like Mondo's gang or Togami's corp, they didn know the world ended, so rescue or some sort of could be on its way.

Also, he could get the trap butt, and get chance of being bro with Mondo and Ishimaru, because fuck harassing woman.
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>>127517320
To clarify a typo:
> 裏切り者(Traitor) WITHOUT the honorific is more common
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>>127516524
>>127516852
>>127517182

The kids are literally spared of another killing game. The fact they're being pussies about killing the kids I fully expect all of them to survive
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>>127517182
What if yasuhiro survives?
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>>127517652
>>127517182
>only Yasuhiro
Fixed
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>>127517639
A killing game wouldn't even work, no motives exist, these are all "winners". It'd have to be forced motives every single time which removes any perspective of someone being evil/corruptable. They still may do a killing game, it being an anime doesn't mean they won't.
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>>127517639
Coming off a game with multiple child abuse, including child sexual abuse, I somewhat doubt DR3 will be all sunshine and rainbows.
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>>127517839
>>127518024

OK who do YOU guys think would die then?
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>>127518242
Either kyoko, makoto or both
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>>127518242
Komaru and makoto goes full despair
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>>127518242
Hagakure is the early fodder to set the tone, Makoto dies to verify Monaka as the greater Junko, everyone from DR2 dies because they've committed too many atrocities to not redeem themselves in a blaze of glory.
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>>127518459

Kyoko, Asahina and Toko.

Kyoko will get killed by new villain to show bad it is, Asahina kill herself due to pressure, and Toko will sacrifice herself.
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Why do people think Makoto will die?
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>>127519202
It's him or Togami man, no one wants the waifus to die.
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>>127519202
What else can Monaka even do to establish herself as a greater ultimate despair than Junko than to kill the ultimate hope?
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>>127517320
>>127517593
This was very informative, thank you.
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>>127519357
Trying to make makoto to shsl despair?
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>>127519442
Junko did that with already with Izuru. Though Izuru wasn't really SHSL Hope in the "hope" sense but more in the "look at this cool shit we can do" sense.
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>>127519357
Well she can try and break him? Not necessarily kill him
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>>127519357
More likely that she'll kill the leader of the Future Foundation to prove her despair. Makoto may make it out alive yet.
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>>127519568
Junko's relationship with Izuru is kinda disappointing in Zero. I thought that'd be the whole point of the book but he's just yet another plaything for her to fuck with.
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>>127519805
I could see Makoto dying just to set up Monaca up as a big villain

besides he needs his long overdue threesome with Sayaka and Mukuro in the afterlife
>>
I'm really looking forward to what they do with Komaeda in DR3.
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>>127522926
They hinted he'll return. Naegi vs Komaeda is almost guaranteed
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Komaru is the best

THE BEST
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>>127523473
Komaru is shit

Hope she dies in DR3
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>>127523184
You'd think he'd let Monaka take Naegi. Hajime is the strongest piece on the board by a country mile, Nagito needs to neutralize him if anything.
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>>127523667
But Naegi is Ultimate Hope. Hajime will probably just be staying on the island with his friends not doing much for now
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>>127525054

Why not simply shooting Naggy with a gun?

Ultimate Hope? Nope, just a human.

Given Monaca is literally impaired, it would be a good chance.
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Hope
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FEELS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TCo-TiV6mM
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>>127527581
>Nope just a human
Nope just Ultimate Hope.

So unless Komaru takes Makoto's role or we get big coverage on the new characters, Makoto is probably living
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>>127518242
I don't know why but I agree with everyone else. I can see Makoto dying in DR3 desu
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Y'all do realize if Makoto or any of them die, they're gonna fuck with time travel as a theme for the anime as an excuse to just bring them back along with erasing the Tragedy so everyone gets DBZ'd back.......right?
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>>127531934
Why, what has DR ever done to suggest they'd throw sense to the wall for the sake of a happy ending? The end will leave you with HOPE for the FUTURE of their world and nothing more.
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>>127532354
>Actually believes they aren't getting some sappy happy ending for the conclusion of Hope's Peak
>Thinks the survivors are dying

lel
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>>127535440

Why not kill everyone? Make a twist ending just to get the audience.

Its a niche series, it deserves a bizzare ending.
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