Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg

yawn

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Li Ming when?

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/3z6qv3/all_the_places_youll_go_all_the_ways_that_youll/

Posting this again because it's a great guide.

Bronzies, you're welcome.

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>>127454872
Since it's not Maiev probably soon.

>Diablo season starts soon.

I'm not ready.

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>>127454872
maybe this year

>>127454872
>>127454973
>HOTS has no gook male hero
>PC demands there should be one
I want to see your faces when they release the D3 male wizard

>>127454924

Personally, I need to choose better random teammates in hero league. Ones that don't pick shit characters like medic.

Acceptance is the first step though, I'm working on it.

>>127454973
>>127454872
graymane-Jan12th
Li-Ming-Feb 2nd

>>127455202
medic is absolutely fine in certain / against certain comps.

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>>127455171
>Pretty good design.
>Voiced by Crispin Freeman.

I think I would be okay with that.

>>127455202
>not solo queueing
I hope you all realize that blizzshit went the RIOT route, where they intentionally match you with mentally retarded people because "hurrr durr you're a highly coordinated premade"

If you want to improve your chances, duo queue with someone on voice comm. It's expected of you.

I've been winning almost all my solo queue games, as soon as I duo with someone I get potatoes on the team. You have been warned,

>>127455406
This. Both are good, just don't expect me to buy male Wizard skins.

>>127455404
>first pick morales
>what the fuck
>"who can counter morales???? no one"
>we end up winning
>"told u no one counters morales except illidan"
facepalm

>>127455749
The scaling changes really helped Morales. She's one of the better supports now. Not first pick material but she's still good.

The thing that makes her look bad is that she's all about positioning. You can't do that and she's going to look terrible.

Kharazim fun?

>it's a master skin illidan episode

>>127455940
I can do it just fine, the problem is that the other 3 people on the team need to do it too.

And at my MMR, most warriors just dive the enemy team and get shat on, then use their escape to come back for heals.

I main supports and I'd play her more often if I would trust my teammates.

>>127456404
Do you like to heal allies by punching other people?

>>127456567
Not him but maybe.
Can I have most hero kill and most heals at the same time?

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>Hero league.
>we have a pretty okay team: Tyrande, Raynor, Jaina, Diabetes , Muradin.
>they have Gazlowe, falstad, nova, Anub'arak, Karl.
>things go pretty good, we get a level advantage and stuff
>Tyrande disconnects at lvl 8
Oh well we still have a good team even with a bot
>Tyrande bot sucks at ganking and prefers to soak lanes forever but at least she's good at dodging, she even dodged snipe a few times or nova was shit
>Gazlowe goes laser build, falstad picks Highland blast for some reason
>lvl 20, both teams sitting in mid lane poking each other
>waiting for avatar and stoneform to come off cooldown
>Gazlowe throws out a random e at Tyrande bot
>Tyrande bot walks out of the bomb because lol 3 second fuse
>WELCOME BACK, HERO
>Tyrande walls back into Gazlowe's bomb, gets stunned, receives a precision strike, a purple deth lazor and overdrive lvl 20 Highland blast to the face
>we all die
>"sry im lagging a bit xD"

>>127456851
Yes you can but beware you have to play like a man with Khazarim. Get into the other's face and punch the shit out of them. Also you have a really good escape remember that.

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Who /malf/ here?

He's still my most played hero. He's awesome when playing with a thrall.

>>127456992
OK another question.
Can I at least hold my ground in a 1v1 fight?

Don't mean being able to kill butcher or thrall, but what I dislike about playing support is that of I'm alone with an enemy I have to run away like a bitch.

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

>>127457276
Not only can you hold your own but you can win a lot of them because you have built in healing through the power of punch they do not. Not to mention if things get dangerous dash out to a minion or something.

That feel when you wanna play Heroes but feel sick as shit.

>>127454872
>>127454973
Too bad she has the same exact voice as Nova, so that might be a little hard to implement. I guess Grey could just voice her more like Azula from Avatar or something

>>127457393
Nice, thanks.

Looks like I know what to do with the gold I have.

Any other tips for a monk noob?

>>127456881
lmao

>>127457704
He has a lot of different builds depending on what you need. Never take Insight either Transcendence if you are solo healer. Iron Fist should really only be taken if you really need the damage.

Only take Divine Palm if it looks like your team is competent. A lot times it won't even proc or it doesn't matter. SSS takes positioning and is best used on one person. If you do take SSS always get the upgrade for it at 20.

The best advice is to look at teams and how things are going for your build with him he has a lot of viable talents on every level. He's not like Kael where he only has one static build that you take every game.

>>127457704
Use that skill that gives you vision on your dash, it's extremely useful against stealthys. Don't be afraid to get into the thick of things, since your attacks will heal your teammates anyway. The hardest part is timing that divine palm, but if you can do it correctly it can be game changing.

Rehgar or Kharazim?

>>127458375
Kharazim.

>>127457190
arguably the only bottom tier support right now, kind of sad tbqh, I also enjoyed playing him a lot

>>127457524
Shouldn't matter Thrall has the same voice as a bunch of characters too

>>127458482
second

>>127458375
Rehgar

>HL draft
>retard: "don't worry guys I can heal :P"
>picks Li Li
>picks serpent talents
>doesn't even take Kung Fu Hustle
>lose
ebin

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>>127458939
>Picks LiLi.
>In the Stun and Burst meta.

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>>127458521
Aren't Brightwing and Rhegar technically worse? Either way, it's sad to see a lot of supports become garbage overnight.

I pretty much only play supports and get flamed if I don't choose Tyrande or Morales.

>>127458939
Some of the serpent talents are good. healing on serpent's attack is as close as Lili gets to a targeted heal. And you can keep it up on two people with timeless creature and yourself if you chose sidekick.
Also obviously loli wouldn't pick kung fu hustle if she was getting busted every fight.
though healing serpent + timeless creature is amazing with KFH, 5 serpents lol

Raider's recruitment on sky temple is fun

>>127459408
Tyrande, Morales, Uther and Kharazim are all still good picks. Rehgar is mid but suffers until late game. Tass is still really good as a side support.

Malf, LiLi and Brightwing are really the only supports that actually hurt your team right now. They can't keep up with the insane burst teams put out now.

>>127459521
How is it better there than anywhere else?

>>127459649
can steal siege camps very easily, and bruisers too (since it's an improved version of bribe, you can buy 3 mercs), which leads to snowball exp lead against bronzies

>>127459106
>He doesn't know about herbal cleanse and surging winds

>>127459408
Malfurion is literally the worse support at dealing with any kind of burst damage. Even BW has a pretty strong shield at level 7, damage reduction with pixie dust and a fast ranged silence.

>>127459845
>Missing out on Seasoned Marksman or Give Me More for that.

Yeah I'm not so sure about that.

>>127454552
Dammit snacks post that shit in English

>>127459882
You better hope the person your trying to heal has the lowest health or it's not going to do shit when you throw it.

Also if you are going to try and rely on cleanse why would you pick a character who gets a shitty version of it way latter than anyone else.

>>127455404
>not stimming paszkiewicz in hero meme as he plays Sonya getting top deeps

>>127460495
>playing with that bronzie

>>127460198
>shitty version of cleanse
>heals, increases movement and cleanses
>shitty
it's only shitty because you want to use it like cleanse, which it isn't

also because you get it so late in the game and you have to give up the one talent that boosts your healing by the most

but it's still strong as fuck and all you bitches would be whining about Li Li being OP right now if it were moved to any other tier

>>127460198
Considering Tyrande is OP and in every game, the person she marks, the person who will need healing the most, is almost guaranteed to have the lowest hp.

Herbal is mathematically the best cleanse. It's literally every time you Q instead of only once every 30 seconds at best. It's not about relying on it either. It's about being the objectively best pick at that tier and against the current meta for that hero.

>>127459845
it works at lower levels by giving you an exp lead, obviously it's not suited for higher level HL

>>127460832
It's shitty because you can't aim it reliably in a team fight. You either have to wait until he's the hero with the lowest health or go out of your way to try and make him the only one in your range.

Meanwhile other heals just press 1 and click on the hero.

>>127454924
>actually calls out people "dude it's just a minion lmao"-ing into Abathur Monstros and dying
neat

>>127461049
If the character is marked then there is nothing LiLi is going to do to save them because her healing isn't going to keep up with the burst that is about to follow. Even if you cleanse one stun he's going to get instantly stunned again or just killed.

It's why LiLi's win rate has dropped so dramatically. Even her ult has a hard time keeping up with the burst if used around other team mates because it doesn't heal everyone at the same time and targets those more hurt first. Not to mention can be knocked out if really easy now because almost every hero picked nowadays has a stun.

She's just not good a good pick vs most comps right now sadly. Especially since most comps don't even relay on AA to do the majority of their damage right now.

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>diablo:im going to out dps you

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0_nfb-1Jv8

have you guys seen these?

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>>127461683
>Julian

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>>127461683
Yeap. Pretty great.

>>127455504
>>127455406
no.

the male wizard in diablo looks like a tool

>>127450376
Um, maybe because of
>lack of heroes
>bullshit overall heroes balance
>most of heroes are below 50% winrate
>some heroes are so shitty that their winrate is in range of 30-40%, and that's when we are lacking heroes duh
>wtf matchmaking for quick memes
>christmas sale prices for heroes and skins are fine, beyond christmas sale the prices are too high for such a meme game
>overall development process and the game changes are so fucking slow, that it feels like the game is maintained by few 18 y/o college students in their free time
>Blizzard is not giving a single fuck on this game
>still no bans for solo ranked games (hero league) and the forced meta bullshit as a fact
>no seasons, no in-game mmr info, no competitive stuff - ranks right now are sort of worthless shit

I dunno, it just feels like this game is still in beta.

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>>127461763

>>127461683
Yep
Is where big tits valla and Dominatrix Kerrigan showed up

>>127462293
It is still in beta that's why season 1 hasn't even started. They needed to release it to start making money on it so they pushed this out

Reminder other supports need buffs Tyrande does not need nerfs

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Who is best girl and why is it Hammer.

>>127465226
because you have bad taste
that is pretty nice art however

>>127465135
Tyrande we know it's you.

>>127465226
>sgthammer.png

oooh spoilers

>>127465135
>>127465374
Yeah, go to sleep Tyrande

>>127465709
come sleep with me Tyrande

>>127465880
Illidan pls go

>>127457704

If there's two healers it's perfectly fine to take iron fists. Probably preferable even, BUT

Always take echo of heaven.

>>127460495
>stimming Sonya
Only shitcans do this. All her damage comes from slam

>>127466749
>character who has to stay in melee range and build resource by AAing doesn't benefit from AA and movement speed
stop posting

>>127461604
Whoa good work you beat a diablo as zagara

>>127466749
You're a fucking retard, son.
Apart from the substantial AA damage, she also generates a lot more rage, so she keeps her Wrath up longer, AND she does more slams.

Fucking retards playing this game, wow.

>>127466901
>>127466974
>grubby: stop stimming me medic I don't need it. My damage is from abilities and I already have move speed

Stop posting any time

>>127467215
>>grubby
who?

>Tyrande, don't use Hunter's Mark, our team already does enough damage

>>127466974
>Fucking retards playing this game, wow.
Baited this hard.
Ya'll need therapy.

>>127467465
>doesn't know the most prominent hots player
Opinions discarded.

>strawman
Opinions discarded.

>>127467603
>if you don't dickride the same E-celebs as me your opinion is invalid
holy shit the bronzies in this fucking thread

>>127467603
>most prominent hots player
You mean a washed up ex-Warcraft 3 pro who is now payed by Blizzard to be a caster for HotS.

>>127466974
desu hes right familia

if you are picking stim on medic you better have Raynor or valla. otherwise it's better to have medivac

not saying it doesn't help sonya but that's true for every hero. any stimmed hero is better than their non stimmed self. there's just better targets than sonya

>>127467918
>trusting a medic who takes the throw bus

>modern MOBAs
>champs so easy to learn and with such a low skill cap that map rules are constantly being created and adjusted to spice up the game

Is there any competitive gaming genre that hasn't been turned into babby tier? Shit like LoL and HotS is full of players who thought DOTA 2 was too hard to learn, or too user unfriendly to new players; and DOTA 2 is full of players who thought DOTA was unreasonably difficult learn.

>>127467901

>my opinion as a 2.5k mmr player that no one has heard of is worth more than a player that has 4k mmr on multiple servers, has video evidence of his skill, and is literally paid to analyze the game

Are you even trying

>>127467918
>there's just better targets than sonya
Name 10.

No seriously of course there are better targets. But Sonya is actually no where near the bottom of the list.

>>127467719
It just shows you don't know anything about the top level of play

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>>127468106
If Grubby is so good, why doesn't he take cleanse against Murky?

>>127468106
>>127468249
>pro players are good
sick meme

>>127468130
>the list of viable heroes is 12
>name 10 of them better than Sonya
Lol

>>127468432
>get btfo
>reply with memes

>>127468314
>cherry picking
Good work

>>127468649
>he never makes mistakes because he's a pro
>if you show him making a mistake it's cherry picking
fuck off grubby

>>127468778
>he didn't pick the correct skill once when he was streaming a viewer game in QM
>REEEEEEEE HE SUX
lol

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>>127468914
>defending a nigga you'll never meet
>who gives no shits about you.

>>127468914
>him making a critical mistake doesn't set a precedent that he sometimes makes critical mistakes because he's famous

>>127469121
>implying I even like grubby, who has the personality of a wet sock
Cmon

>>127469253
We're drifting from the argument here.

If your team has Raynor, stim is better on him. If your team doesn't have Raynor then don't pick stim. If you have medic and Sonya and stim you're in QM and you can stim whoever you want.

>>127469615

Why would you ever pick dropship? Are you seriously wood league?

>>127469615
>map has no boss
GOTTA GET DAT MEDIVAC BOIS
you're just as retarded as the rest of em

>>127469615
>If your team doesn't have Raynor then don't pick stim.
Autisim speaks.

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>>127458521
>the feel when moonfire build is not viable.

>>127469615
>If your team doesn't have Raynor then don't pick stim.
Raynor isn't the only hero with good auto attacks or who benefits from movement speed.
In any case, anything is better than the fucking feed bus

>>127469615
Stim on Diablo with Battle Momentum and double Overpower charges is hilarious, the fuck are you saying?

>>127468314
is this NA?

>>127466974
How fucking bad do you have to be as Sonya not to have Wrath up 24/7 from the moment you hit 10?

>>127467603

But the most prominent hots player is pallytime, or if you want someone more hardcore, Chu.

>>127469867
>>127469910
>stim has 39% winrate
>it's so good!!! Lol ur wood!!!!!!!!

>>127469867
you pick dropship if there are no good stim targets, e.g mage/warrior comps and it's a big map like bhb, cursed. But mainly because there are no good stim targets.

Medivac can be used as an escape (for mostly yourself) and disengage tool.

>>127470492
>dropship is picked so little that slogs doesn't even have a win rate for it, so clearly it's better

>>127470668
>no one has tried it so it sucks

>>127470756
>I quote masters league stats while simultaneously assuming masters league players don't know what they're doing

>>127470668
>medic overall winrate 39.7
>stim winrate 39.6
>dropship is higher + no one uses it or plays around it
Well

>>127471090
....are you trying to math? because that's not how math works...

you can't imply that Medivac has a higher win percentage just because the 'average win rate' is higher than the winrate of Stim

math doesn't work that way you faggot

>>127471265
>there are 2 different types of medic
>stim medic and dropship medic
>stim medic winrate is 39.6
>the average of stim medic and dropship medic is 39.7
Are you special

>>127468914
>once when he was streaming a viewer game in QM
He wasn't even streaming at the time

>>127470227
Yes

>>127471453
Then how do you know that was him

Could have been anyone with the name grubby

>>127471532
I checked his hero collection tab after the match. Unless there was another Grubby with the same exact hero levels, that was him.

>>127471090
>the 60 people who use dropship increase the winrate by a totally negligible amount so clearly it's the better ult despite the much smaller sample size decreasing the data's value

>>127471391
so you're telling me that the 60 games played with the dropship have an 80% win rate to make up for the small sample size compared to the 500+ with Stim when comparing the average win rate for Morales?

>>127472319
>>127472148
I'm saying there is insufficient evidence to make a direct comment on the usefulness of medivac, while there is direct evidence of stimdrone not being the only viable choice

>infernal memes
>tyrande picks starfall
>enemy team is predominantly melee
>diablo and sonya ignore the starfall location and dive kael, moving the fight away from it
>WHY THE FUCK PICK STARFALL OMFG WE NEED THE HEALS SUCH A SHIT ULT
>i'm doing the same damage as our shitfaced jaina and slightly more healing than the enemy uther
wow, autism speaks

>>127472498
>there is insufficient evidence to make a direct comment on the usefulness of medivac, while there is direct evidence of stimdrone not being the only viable choice
the only direct evidence slogs gives us about Morales is that she's garbage in masters league HL

>>127472498
Yeah, just like starfall could be better than shadowstalk. Only 50 people use it, so we don't know.

>>127472498
>two piles of shit
>people have eaten one pile of shit and commented on how shit it tastes
>no one bothers to taste the other pile of shit

>but guys, no one's tried the second pile of shit, so there's the potential for it to be less shitty than the other pile of shit

>>127472762
Exactly. Thanks

>our 3rd pick during draft: can you explain the logic behind this draft??????
>he has 5 seconds left to pick
>he still hasn't prepicked anything
>he picks rexxar into enemy kael, raynor and sonya
>he whines that tyrande first pick is retarded
wow, just wow

>>127473112
Should have just told him to pick muradin

>>127473256
>hard a retard play the team's warrior
if you want to lose, maybe

a few games ago, our muradin would use his stun on the enemy johanna / uther before the teamfight, then move away, a bit, then jump into the enemy team and thunderclap

then he'd ask why he dies in 3 seconds

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>He takes the bronze heroic
>He never brings it to team fights
>He never hats in team fights
>He takes the first 3 mine talents but never uses mines
>He doesnt soak xp
>He dives his heroic into the core instead of taking keeps

Fuck Abathur players they ruin every game they're in

I fucking hate Hammer. Not playing with her or against her, just the way these assholes at Actiblizzshit think it's ok to make a hero.

Her Spider Mines are fucking GARBAGE. They bug out VERY often, and every single talent associated with them is trash.
Her W is meh, it has its uses but it's nothing special.
She is build "all around siege mode", but in fact, in most situations NOT being in siege mode is the best course of action.

She used to be shit. So they buffed her. How did they buff her?

Well, instead of fixing the garbage that is her Spider Mines, or MAYBE making her mount more versatile / fun / at least lower its cooldown, or hell, even a whole damn rework, they decide to... INCREASE HER DAMAGE and give her a little bit more HP.

The damage she shits out is fucking insane. And that is all. I cannot think of a more boring hero. You base your game around protecting that hero so she can delete the enemy team.

Fuck man, I hope we don't get more heroes like that. Worst design possible.

>rank 1
>our last pick: i can't really play tanks
>he says this after everyone else has picked
>...
>i only have artanis and anub
>nigga what
>check his account
>155 games played
>not ONE level 10 hero
>all the warriors except anub and artanis are level 1
HOLY SHIT HOW
WHY THE FUCK do I get this shitter in the game when I have 2000 games played????

This game is dead as a dodo.

For two days I didn't play a single match because the game took more than ~250 seconds to find me a game - in fucking QUICKmatch. So I just left it and played something else, no biggy: I liked HOTS because it was a nice, relaxing way to spend an evening, you'd just click play and ten seconds later, you were in the game. If the game failed to find me a match in a reasonable time, I just left it and played something else

Today I found a game after my third attempt. I was matched up with an AFK polish Arthas and a player who played with a random hero. I was up against a 5 man premade. We were holocausted.

The cherry on top of that shitcake was the fact that the game took 3 minutes to find me a decent game, and at the end it put me against a 5 man fucking premade, giving me a team of memeloving slav fucks.

I don't know if it's because new MM system or because the player base is horrifyingly low, but I don't really care. The game is dead. There is no way in hell a casualised ASSFAGGOTS like this can exist if you need 5 minutes to find a game in fucking quickmatch. What's the purpose of playing an instafun quickmatch in a casualised game if you need to wait several minutes to even enter a game?

Blizzard forums are filled with fanboys going "Will the trolls stop saying the game is dead?". /hotsg/ is one of the slowest generals on /vg/. Blizzard is still not realeasing definite player numbers. Instead, they go for desperate tactics such as that recruit-a-buddy system. A shame, I liked an idea of ASSFAGOTS 100% oriented on flashy team fights and with games lasting ~25mins tops.

sorry for the blogpost I'm venting

>>127455171
After the monk got some Avatar looking skins I can't imagine them passing on her voice.

>>127475329
Not every Abathur player is bad anon. I cringe whenever I see one that's shitty though. Most people refuse advice as it is.

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>>127476009
At least he has good taste in warriors desu

I don't know why this community is so hard on the HOTS team. They're slow, but they're nowhere near as bad as the rest of Blizzard. Dustin also responds to most questions/criticism or at least faves posts to show you he read them.

If the Hearthstone team balanced HOTS, Leoric would still be completely broken and dominating the game.

>>127477158
>they're nowhere near as bad as the rest of Blizzard
when you compare the competition Blizzard's other games have, they're worse

>>127476680
fun fact

It's only taking 200+ seconds because you're picking tyrande and kael

If you pick Lili, abathur, fuckin chen, you can legit get games in under 5 seconds

Stay mad, tier fag

>>127477345
Still better than Riot.

>>127477158
Every TCG ever created is at least a litle bit broken, because you're dealing with hundreds (thousands) of cards, with thousand possible synergies, and at the end of the day, you need to force people to buy new editions instead of clamoring to their favourite old ones.

HOTS is a relatively small game - compared to Lol or Dota - and it still has enourmous problems with balancing, matchmaking and even graphical presentation (SC2 engine is shit and should be buried). We're talking about a game made by one of the biggest studios in the game, and a game going for the one of the most saturated markets out there (MOBA). Fact of the matter is that HOTS is shit compared both to other Blizz games and other games in its genre, and Blizzard doesn't give a flying fuck.

>Dustin even favortes stuff!
kek

>>127477550
I was trying to play with Anub, Johana, Raynor, Tass and Karazim respectively. Stay salty, fuckboy.

>>127477757
>thousands of cards
>synergies
>whatever
Who gives a shit, if a 7/7 minion costs 7 mana, and they release a 7/7 minion that costs 7 mana, spawns TWO 1/1 minions that deal 1-4 damage to a random target upon death, THAT IS INCLUDED IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY SINGLE GOOD DECK?

But it's not OP, it's totally fine, kek. It is irrelevant that as soon as I got it my winrate went up 10 (TEN) percent when I included it in my fucking ZOO WARLOCK DECK.

>>127477682
and?
LoL has over twice as much content as Blizzard and captured the market from the start. Being slightly better than Riot doesn't mean shit when Riot doesn't have to do fucking anything but Blizzard needs to convince people to play HotS despite already having time and perhaps money invested in LoL or Dota

>>127477550
I just had a 6 minute queue as Sgt Hammer

>zagara dies 6 times in 10 minutes
>"cuz they gank me noob"
oh, ok then. sorry. carry on

>>127478068
What the fuck are you talking about. I just said that every TCG ever created /always/ has some imbalanced shit thrown in it and dominating the meta for a while. Just because HS is retarded as fuck doesn't mean that HOTS is any less retarded.

>>127478280
i dont know if you heard but we are in a stun meta this means it is impossible to not get ganked

>>127478204
>from the start
nice meme, friend
no one gave a shit about LoL the first year it was out

>>127478391
What is map awareness?
What do you mean, retreat when my allies ping me to retreat? Don't I have to try and destroy towers even though the enemy specialist is right there, ready to stop me?

>>127478432
and no one gives a shit about HotS now, and they'll continue you to not give a shit as long as Blizzard thinks it's ok for it to play like an alpha AND TAKE 2 MONTHS TO RELEASE FINISHED AND PLAYABLE FUCKING HEROES

>>127477907
>Raynor
>Jo
>Khara
>not top picks

could you be a bigger cocksucker?

>>127478432
LoL was just as popular as DOTA and HoN when it first came out. By the second-third year, HoN dropped out completely out of the combination and LOL and DOTA became the dominant ASSFAGGOTS games, which stands to this day.

Meanwhile HOTS can even compete with Smite.

>>127478603
map awareness doesnt work against tyrande noob
and no you cant see ganks coming with creep

>>127478614
And what about evey other hero I mentioned Mr. Strawman.
Also, I didn't realise you need to pick only certain heros if you want to even start a game in a decent ammount of time. Nice mental gymnastics there blizzfag.

>>127478725
I was the Tyrande on her team, retard.
>only enemy with a stun on the enemy team is muradin
>i hit him with my owl, you can see him going bot
>spam retreat pings on the dumb cunt
>she goes closer to their towers to throw a pod
yeah, go fuck yourselves, both of you

>>127479064
>responding to anti-subtle bait
you're just as retarded as him and the guy you're bitching about

So you guys think this game will be even more dead when that unreal engine ASSFAGGOTS comes out?

Or will it help driving out shitters?

>>127479791
I just hope that WH40k ASSFAGGOTS ends up being at least decent but the alpha looks fucking attrocious for now.

Cho'gall is ridiculously overpowered. There's nothing you can fucking do when he's with morales

>>127480060
If you guys are decent at cho'gall he's a free win in QM and pretty good in hl if he's not countered.

>>127479791
The Unreal Engine game looks like the most boring, bland shit imaginable. At least Blizzard has brand recognition to go off of. Epic is gonna be dead in the water unless they pull off some insane shit.

>>127480851
>if you're good with a hero and he doesn't get countered you can win with him

Brilliant deduction m8 have any more of this golden advice

>>127480851
>another victory for the scourge

>300+ seconds in queue for every quick match
yikes

>>127468314
You can cleanse yourself out of murky's ult?

>>127479939
>>127479791
What we need is for Nintendo to rele some sort of MOBA, a smash MOBA or some shit, to get rid of kids, manchildren and faggots

>>127474642
He picked warrior anyway

>>127481071
Don't even have to be that good, just decent. People in QM can't deal with him

>>127475372
>how to make hammer better
>replace spider mines with widow mine
>it is invis and does large damage in an AOE. Upgrades including knock back, more charges, stun etc

>replace siege mode with thrusters
>60% movespeed for 4s

>add siege mode to trait

>give her a mount

>>127481109
you can precleanse yourself and get stunned for 1.5s instead of 3s

>>127481109
No but if both supports take cleanse murky is useless

Hey I've been playing for a week or so and have some basic questions about this game

>Is EXP global and not shared in a radius?
I see I can level up from the fountain without being next to any enemies. Is EXP shared throughout the team globally? If so, why doesnt everyone just 5-man middle to brute force?

>Towers and Keeps
Whats with the 2nd tower after you destroy the first set of towers & wall? And the little shrine next to it? Do your creeps get stronger in that lane or something? I just dont understand why theres 3 towers per lane per blockade

>>127481764
You have to be near creeps dying to get xp. So if you were 5 mid you'd only get one lane of xp

There's 3 towers idk why
The shrine is a healing well. Click on it.

>>127481939
>You have to be near creeps dying to get xp
Thats what I thought too, but then why do I level up while at the fountain?

I don't like that you can't see your XP or level and have no idea how much progress is left before you level up again.

>The shrine next to the big cannon tower is a healing well. Click on it.
Holy shit I didnt know that thanks

>>127482269
>I don't like that you can't see your XP or level and have no idea how much progress is left before you level up again.
look at the bar at the top of the screen

>>127482269
Your team level is shown at the top of the screen with a bar that fills up to show progress to next level.

Think of it as a teamwide xp pool. You all collect xp and put it in the pool and all level up according to the total xp collected by your team.

When does the weekly free heroes change?

>>127468095
There's a lot of money to be made if you go pro

If you're so good, go make some dosh

>>127483683
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/free-hero-rotation

>>127483683
yes

>>127468095
Actually I like hots because games dont last an hour. You have to bank an entire hour on some guy you've never met not being a retard and losing the game because one hero can solo your entire team

>>127481440
>a fucking tank
>on a Wonder Billie
Fuck man do you want to kill the poor pony?

>>127468095
There is always starcraft. Mobas were originally just fun side games for RTS and turned into this.

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>>127483683
>have question
>go to computer
>see google chrome
>open google chrome
>see google.com
>look at search bar
>don't ask question there
>go to address bar instead
>enter 4chan.org/vg/
>see address bar
>don't enter question
>find hotsg
>see address bar
>don't enter question
>see reply box
>enter question
>see address bar
>don't enter question
>press reply
>wait for replies

when google has been around this long and you still ask questions like this

>>127481109
Grubby didn't get grabbed, he was playing BW

>>127484343
No I don't mean a conventional mount I mean like azmodan mount. Like it could even have a bit longer channel than other heroes

>>127481456
except that doesn't work, it still lasts 3s

>Is there a hidden "special" queue in Hots?

By "special" I mean - Me and two friends play Heroes quite regularly. We are usually Duo when we can and are all in roughly the same mmr bracket.
Friend 1 is sortof like myself, dont write much to other players except for some short encouraging "gj!" "lets take this" lines.
Friend 2 has a habit of writing passive agressive stuff at times but has to my knowledge never been silenced or whatnot.
So to the point: Whenever I duo with Friend 1, we have pretty good games. People communicate alright and usually GGs even when stomped. We have our share of toxic people but its usually quite seldom they show up.
When either of us is duoing with Friend 2, its like, I cant explain it... The rage and toxicity is real. We make sure he dosnt write any offputting stuff when were playing with him so its not him starting stuff, but it feels like he is someway put in a seperate queue with these really unpleasant players as this always happens when duoing with him. And when I write always, I mean always. The struggle is truly real.
So is this just bad luck or karma for this guy or is it by design? Anyone else who experiences this?

>>127485247
Just mute people that aren't your friends

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>>127484849

>he isn't watching Grubby right now

What's your excuse?

>>127485247
Friend 2 is a shitter with awful MMR

>>127485521
octograb is a channeled stun, same as mosh pit

>>127485247
Trust me. I'm experienced in being mad in chat, and I am under the school of Senjinn.

It's definitely by design because I keep getting paired with absolute braindead shitters.

>>127485247
Could be. I mean not in terms of toxicity, but I have the same experience. Games are just fun qued with Friend 1. With Friend 2 it seems to give us the worst comps and team mates.
I assume that >>127485615 is the answer.

>play anub'arak in QM
>get teams filled with murky/nova/aba/TLV/azmo
how the fuck am i supposed to set up ganks with this. the most i can do is babysit the nova and stun everything she attacks, but that doesn't do much when she just wants to chase around a full health jo all game long

>>127476009

I have 450 games played and only one level 10 hero.

>>127485641
Cleanse someone in mosh and get your answer

>>127485641
Mosh pit isn't a channeled stun, it's a channeled ability. Someone with cleanse can still get fucked by Mosh because it reapplies a short ass stun several times a second if you're within the radius while its channeled. Murky ult is a single stun, not several in the span of a single channel.

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great game

>>127488051
>SilentOrgasm
>Li Li picture
>playing Jaina

>illidan with 12 deaths and less hero damage than both team's supports
>his name has "dante" in it

>>127488051
See thats what's fucked up. There are clearly tanks qued. You swap Stiches or ETC with one of the specialists and you got a good game going.

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whoever drew this is a good person

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>>127488440

that's hero league, home skillet

>>127488857
Solo queue?

>>127488693
I need to finish that sometime. Maybe tomorrow who knows I might even redo it I don't like the way it's turning out

>>127488857
Aww shit.... Well thats just fucked.

>>127485594
Im playing the game

>>127489572
thanks senpai youre doin gods work

>>127481154
>Pokemon Moba

It's perfect because all Pokemon have 4 moves and so do Moba characters

>>127469615
>not stimming sonya/valla/sgt meme/thrall/butcher/illidan/or falstad/

is this game dead yet?

>>127492078
yes
can someone tell me if dota 2 is worth it

>>127492380
If you like doing almost nothing for an hour and having the game decided by which carry killed the most creeps then he's its worth

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ded thread
ded gaem

How about more shitters bitching? This person hosts a heroes podcast and the biggest hearthstone podcast; where none of the three hosts, who have been playing since alpha, have ever hit legend. Their patron is also at $858 per week.

>>127495149
Isn't patron per month?

>>127495626
you can set up in multiple ways. theirs is per-weekly podcast

>>127495149
>your team has great aoe Mosh combos but none of the high hotslogs winrate heroes
>enemy has more meta heroes but absolutely no way to engage on their own terms to abuse having stronger characters
GG why do I get noob teams every time

>>127495626
oh and the 858 is per hearthstone podcast his hots podcast is at $427 per week(episode)

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>both teams have a 4 stack
>friendly team Sgt. Hammer ignores pings saying only "check my hotslogs"
>tell them their shitty 4 stack means nothing if they are shit at the game
>they try to boss when the whole team is up
>they wipe and enemy team steals boss
>"we are all reporting you :)"
>we lose
>Sgt. Hammer: "check my hotslogs"

I hate this fucking game

>>127496574
What if all the shitty players are actually just plants from Riot to shit up the game. Riot is owned by the Chinese and they would have millions of people at their disposal to act like retards in matchmaking and turn people off the game.

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>>127495149
>>127496001

>rank 15
>2400 mmr
>$1700 a month podcasting about this game



>$3400 podcasting about hs

>>127496574
Did you check the hotslogs.

>>127497775
Was just about to ask...

>>127497775
>>127497858

Here it is.

http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=710868

Impressive isn't it?

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>>127498080

>420 games played
>33% winrate with hammer
>2k mmr

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Quality servers. Literally running worse than Action 52.

also what was with the live coverage of me shitposting in mewnfare's twitch channel like seriously now I know no one here is any good at having an actual conversation but leave that shit to /v/eddit y'know

>>127499095
mmm dat 3.4 second delay though

>Holiday sale ending tomorrow.

Last call boys.

>Become competent enough at a hero to do fucked up talents and still work it out
>Find fun builds
SGT with full concussive blast talents into a corner of 10 spider-mines fun mode, moderately successful if Z is used too in specific foggy areas.
>Spending 3.5 CDs to do something that looks cool

Any other fantasy scenario builds?

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>>127499450

Yeah, I honestly felt kind of bad because I was with /vg/ at the time, wanted to do my best but simply couldn't play the game, yet had too much respect for them to just leave them with a hopeless bot. only bots that are remotely competent are ETC / Kharazim / LiLi, the former two because they have an imhuman reaction time for some things and the last because it's autopilot the hero

also pic related is me upsetting TWG, one of mewn's mods who is either a very insecure gay or simply a SJW so pathetic they think using the word 'fag' is hate speech. they're also genuinely autistic about 'muh chat experience' and hate copypastas. Twitch really isn't for them. I was bored out of my skull, hung over and could only be arsed to shitpost. Does that make me a bad person?

dropping the trip after this post, don't bother filtering it.

>>127497385
Holy shit
Investigate riot games

>>127500041
You should keep the trip so we can avoid your bronze opinions more easily.

>>127499782
Does that mean the event is ending too?

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>>127497385

That would explain how it's even harder to get any form of conversation here nowadays, LOLbabbies raiding the place.

>>127500215

And you should TRIP over some BRONZE barbed wire into a WOOD chipper.

>>127500723
>calls other people "lolbabbies"
>is bronze in a game that's even easier than LoL

>>127499782
where did you see that?

>>127500515
winter veil event ends the 12th, the sale was never officially tied to the event

>>127500879

No need to get defensive because someone used the term lolbabbies, lolbabby.

Is Hammer good? I'm still new.

I think I like Hammer the best so far - but I've only played maybe 7 or so heroes.

Is Giant Killer good, or a gimmick talent? I can't tell if I should be getting the 1.5% damage or the 25% damage if not attacked.

Also; I prefer to the Range upgrade, however some guides I've seen suggest to get the 10 second damage burst upgrade instead. Is that other talent really better than more range?

>>127500996
It's on the launcher.

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ORD1 is a fucking fag

>three heroes on the friendly team with giant slayer
>enemy team cho'gall
>no one focuses him
>"lol y we keep dying?"

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>>127500996
>>127501404

>>127501202
If I'm a LoLbabby, then you're a HOTSfetus

I just noticed its already been 3 weeks since Lunaras release. I guess blizzard cant be bothered with the 4 week, 3 week, schedule anymore?
And Lunara was 4 weeks from cho, who was 4 weeks from artanis.

So 4 week release schedule set now?

>>127502285
They should have made her a usable hero if they wanted people to buy the package

>>127500996
>winter veil event ends the 12th, the sale was never officially tied to the event

OK thanks anon

>>127502302
Jokes on you, you're both fucking faggots

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>>127502285
I didnt see it before, and they posted nothing about it in the news section or on the website

nothing on reddit either

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>>127502285

>Sylv complains about me initiating 5v1 despite standing right fucking behind me
>Sylv gets out damaged by an Arthas for the majority of the game despite having terror every single time
>Ping for core 100 times after we wipe enemy team except for rexxar
>team stays in base to def rexxar instead of destroying core
Why the fuck am I matched with these incompetent fucking people. She didn't hit a black arrow all game either. Sylv is one of the retard proof heroes too.

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>Nova back on free rotation

>>127502767

>playing a squishy hero

>>127502640
Wow no black arrow the whole game huh. Crazy.

>>127501294
Hammer is good, although she needs to be positioned right or she'll be picked off
Giant Killer is a fine talent to take if your enemies have a LOT of beefy characters on their side.
the 25% damage is GREAT for team fights if your team can keep the heat off you and keep enemies in firing range
I am unfamiliar with the 10 second bust upgrade. I would see if that talent will synergize with your playstyle and other talents you take.

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It's like I never left Bronze.

>free nova
Oh god guess I have to play her so my team can't.
How do I nova?

>>127503074
Hope you're none of those people. Is this bait?

>>127501294
Giant killer is generally the least shitty option at 13. First strike can be made useless really wasy and isnt reloable in solo queue.

Maelstrom shells at 4 is more or less the best talent at that tier. There are some meme builds with focused attack, but maelstrom lets you proc your passive without sieging, which is really good.

>>127503476
Her W is the deadzone on her trait's range you don't need that talent or siege mode to proc it

>>127502335
Cho was 3 weeks from artanis's public release date. Lunara was supposed to be 3, so I guess greymane is the 4 week part of the cycle. I think the next one will be 3 weeks after grey.

>>127503471
1 Freedom Dollar says it's PizzaChaps

>>127503836
That just seems too obvious. I have doubts.

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>tfw 5 man mosh pit

>>127503928
>your team runs away

I want a female worgen hero so she can break my dick off inside her.

>>127503928
>>127504410
>Zagara maws them

>>127503807
cho was 3, but Lunara wasn't and greymane isnt.

>play Lunara
>everything goes smoothly and well
>top damage, win fights and get objectives
>Nova gets a couple of levels
>oneshots you whenever you're not between your allies asscheeks
>lose game
Why is this bullfuckingshit allowed?

She literally just fucking oneshots you.

And there's no detection. Despite Blizzard wasting one entire slot and a talent on vision, she has 0 fucking detection.

gg Blizzard

>>127504692
>Despite Blizzard wasting one entire slot and a talent on vision
for Lunara*

>>127504692
>don't take Greater Spell Shield against Nova
>overextend
>get your asshole violated
literally your fault

>>127504692

>play Lunara

You deserved to get dunked on by the worst designed hero in the game.

>>127502935
meant wailing arrow.

>>127504974
Gazlowe?

Soon the christmas mount will be gone and you'll accidentally end up using the brown horse of shame.

>doing boss
>boss is kill
>we all get on the cap
>Zagara maws us and walks to the cap instead
>she can't get on the cap because the path between the maw and the walls is too small
>fat bottom zerg can't cap boss

>Entire enemy team is dead
>Enemy core is wide open
>Ping to kill core
>Half the team decides to stay to defend a single lane instead
>"We would have lost if we didn't defend"
I lose so many games from this shit.

>>127506319
>Enemy Team...Dominated
>half team defends a single lane

defending from...what?

>>127506319
>we're doing boss, win, wipe the enemy except for raynor, diablo respawn time 5 seconds
>if we don't end now we will lose the game, we're still level 19 while the enemy team is 21
>time to push to win boys
>BUT WAIT! there's a huge push going towards at core from bot lane
>check talents, abathur has locust talents
>tell him to go defend
>ping defend twice on the lane
>we focus on pushing, it goes pretty well, enemy core at 15%...
>our core explodes
>abathur is pushing mid lane
>mid lane has it's fucking keep up
DESPAIR
E
S
P
A
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>>127506519
The enemy team pushed down our top keep earlier and creeps pushed down to our core. Two people hearthed back to defend it.

>>127506230
>implying I'll ever stop using the Hearthstone card
the time I spent playing that shitty game will not be wasted
TIME IS MONEY FRIEND

>>127506802
...
they were your high DPS team mates, weren't they?

>>127506682
>core suddenly explodes
That means you weren't watching the fucking minimap.
The number 1 rule of every fucking game ever is to keep an eye on the minimap instead of pretending to micro like a pro.

>>127499852
DPS malfurion

>>127504896
>Greater Spell Shield
>being ever active when you need it

>overextending
>in a game with no vision
So Nova is a hero against which you're not allowed to leave your base unless with at least 3 other allies or else you get oneshotted to death?

Wow what a well designed hero.

>>127507503
>getting this booty blasted that his sopping wet waifu can be hard countered

>>127507849
She is hard countered by like every hero in the game

>>127507503
>being ever active when you need it
Are you serious
Work on your positioning

>>127507106
This.

There's no last hitting in this game so there's literally no reason to look at your hero if you're not team fighting. I stare at the minimap 80% of the game

>It's a Illidan took the Hunt and has died 12 times episode.

So with Artanis should I be taking reactive parry, or seasoned marksman? I know you can be getting an extra 1 or 2 hundred damage per combo hit with marksman, which seems a bit better than a slighter less damage from one or two auto attacks when i already have a shield.

>>127508253
It depends. I really only take reactive parry if the enemy team has Nova or Raynor. Nova because most of them take the slower but more damage AA attacks which means you have block up for almost everyone of them and Raynor because he's Raynor.

>>127508197
>take hunt to help burst down hammer since she was actually good this time
>team doesnt follow up with anything
>dont die because im illidan

>>127508480
>don't die
You mean instantly die?

>>127508480
>Illidan on my team last game.
>Uses the hunt on Kael every time. Kael gets cloned by Abathur.
>They laugh as they keep him stunned over and over while Fuse Bombing him and blowing him the fuck up.

>>127508253
If you're the only warrior on the team then you need to take it.
Otherwise it's situational.

>>127508373
What he said, but I love to take block against Arthas, too.
Blocking a boosted frostmourne significantly decreases his burst damage.

>Ended up spamming Raynor for most of my quests and winning almost all of them
>Suddenly I end up on a 5-6 loss streak with any hero possible

This either is the forced 50% meme, or the matchmaker is a bitch, or karma

>>127509503
It seems whenever I get a 3 win streak my next game will always be with someone who has a bad connection and we end up playing with a bot.

>>127507106
>no teamfight
>pushing core with a low HP team against raynor and diablo
sorry bro, sometimes you just can't look at the minimap

had to do triage there, shit was hardcore.

abathur had no excuse for not moving his dumb ass to bot lane, we needed EVERYONE to push that core.

>Lowest damage Raynor telling Azmodan and Abathur, who are top damage and siege in the match nearly tied with a considerable amount, that we are losing because Abathur and Azmodan are garbage

This match had no supports, we lost because no one was focusing targets or randomly shooting the Johana

>playing during late night
this is the worst
you see some many shit plays
>towers of shit
>win teamfight and altar bot
>retreat behind out gate, no kills on either side
>tychus goes ham, charges through all the enemies and throws a grenade on the altar location
>DONT JUST LET THEM TAKE IT
shit son, i'd just alt f4 and never come back if i were him

>>127509743
>sometimes you can't spare a milisecond to glance several inches to the left and check something
How fucking bronze can you get?

>queue up
>went pretty fast
>casually mention "this is 2.5k mmr" in chat
>find out that one of them is 3.7k mmr
>another is 3.5k
>one of them is 1.2k
k then

>>127509718
Mind, the last two games I had, the 1st of the two, my Uther has been AFK for the whole game and since he was the solo support, it ended extremely badly

As for the 2nd of the game, we only had 1 bruiser (Arthas) versus 1 Bruiser(Sonya) and 1 Tank(Muradin). Even knowing this, said Arthas decided to build pure offense instead of tank since he was our only warrior

This is either karma or matchmaker being a bitch

>>127510436
It's just forced 50

>>127510430
It averages out.

>>127510390
You don't even need to look at the minimap. You can see your core hp and shield right in front of you

He's absolute garbage like most vg shitters

>>127504692
>play Lunara
found the problem. they released a buggy and brokenly weak hero and you play that.

>qm
>both teams have abathur and nova
>I am the nova
>walk up to their abathur
>our abathur hats me
>"let me shoot him pls"
LOL okay
>our slug shoots their slug
>their slug does nothing
>eventually he notices he's dying, he gets out of hat mode and starts running around frantically
>I'm still cloaked, he decides it was nothing and goes back to hatting.
>our abathur eventually kills him
>my hat disappears
>their coldsteel killed our slug
>start laughing, accidentally hit q, get focused by the fort, die

What's up with abathurs that have zero awareness?

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>playing with hotsg

>>127510920
more like
>What's up with abathurs that have zero anti-stealth mines?

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>tfw top of charts in every fucking category
i cant believe falstead actually topped me 5k damage in that last teamfight.

>Decide to try out BFG with Hammer.
>Holy shit this is fucking garbage.
>Hit lvl 20 holy shit this fucking amazing.

Blizzard you can make a medium between the two you know.

>>127508373
>>127509007

Alright, good to know.

>>127511512
The pushing power is rather lame though. Just use Lava Strike except when explicitly doing caster on a true meme build

>>127511361
>proud of beating stitches abathur tassadar diablo valla

>>127511361
More impressed with that diablo desu. Their comp sucks. And their valla was garbage

>>127511691
I only tried it because it was Blackhearts Bay and I wanted to test it with denying turn ins and pushing forts so paying up could do more.

Did some math, tell me if i'm wrong here.

Artanis can do 2000 damage per use of his w if properly timed, + titan killer

>>127511080
He started planting some anti stealth mines after I've killed him three times. He never went to a different lane though and kept sitting under his fort

he planted then all on the path I used to kill him earlier so I just went the long way around and avoided his mines

Also, dropping a decoy in a random enemy aoe is the best. especially if you didn't pick Double Bronze so the enemy has some reason to fall your bait

"omg that Condemn Joho used to blow up their minions hit Nova! FIRE EVERYTHING!"

>>127510430
>>127510557
it averaged out so well that our last pick almost 4k MMR shitter picked abathur instead of a support

we got stomped in 11 minutes, that sure was fun

he was a pro abathur though, so that was nice

>>127512104
You see the problem with that is if you take Titan Killer you miss out on Zealot Charge. Charge is what makes him god mode late game because it fixes his one problem. Ability to stick to people.

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>>127512195
LOVING
EVERY
LAFF

>>127512226
Oh, I mistyped there. I meant 2000 damage + titan killer's damage. You can take zealot charge and still hit that 2k damage

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>>127512887
????????

>>127512104
Show how you arrived at 2000

>>127513546
300 stacks of Marksman.