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Build robots in other games so you dont have to play MWO edition

New /gerg/ game, from the makers of Shadowrun Returns
http://battletechgame.com/

Mechwarrior Living Legends:
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Installer + Gamespy fix:
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php?topic=19022.0
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,20422.0.html

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html

The HAWKEN zombie marches on:
https://www.playhawken.com/

Heavy Gear Assault:
http://www.heavygear.com/

M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://www.bombdogstudios.com/index.php/blog/

MechWarrior Online:
http://www.mwomercs.com/

New Player's Guide to MWO:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit

MWO CW Map Viewer:
http://www.norrisdev.com/mwocw/

Kong PodKast #25: Heavy Gear Stuff
http://kongkast.libsyn.com/kong-kast-25-gear-bays-black-market-and-pets-oh-my

MWO Mechlab:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab

MWO Heat Simulator:
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/

Kanajashi's Video Tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPYOrhEFtg [Embed] [Embed]

Happy New Year Everyone

Mumble Info:
Kong Mumble: kong-interstellar.typefrag.com
Port: 8270
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>he played MWO.
>hated MWO.
>decided to bring shitty battletech designs to other games.
>other games are just as grindy and shitty.

1/10.
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The Kaelus Kids have been exiled from Kong. Thank your lucky stars for dudebot.
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So why all the love for Thunderbolt?
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>>127431093

High up chest mounted lasers. Lets you easily peek over shit and fire. Most other mechs are stuck with arm or dick level lasers, meaning they have to expose their entire body just to fire and hit something.
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>>127431674
Is there a go to load out? Or a load out good for pugging?
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>>127428997
Does the game not have missile weapons for you to attach or something? More lasers tacked on top is just horrible.
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>>127431739

2-3 large lasers of your choice, and then medium lasers, standard 300 engine, and stuff the rest oif the space with heatsinks.

If you variant has 2 missile slots, you can try taking 2 SRM6's if you like those, but its generally better to just boat the shit out of lasers.
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>>127431972
early access
"I'll finish it, swear on me mum!"
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>>127433002

>MWO: released, but still really in early access.
>MAV: early access.
>Heavy gear: early development.
>Hawken: early access zombie lord.
>Robocraft: early access F2P.
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RIP
I
P

Thread.
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pity bump
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Dead fucking thread.
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>>127439301
Then why the fuck did you bother remaking it you fucking kike?
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>>127432113
>surms on a thunderbolt
Are you prince pubbie?
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>>127444951

he said if you want to, nerd.
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>>127432113
>thunderbolts
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>>127445295
Calling people a nerd while defending prince pubbie

You would bring lurms on your thunderbolt right?
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>>127445363
oi fuck off m8
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>>127446169
he wasn't defending anything, fag.

go back to reddit
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>>127446341
Wew are you part of the shitter defence force?
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>>127432113
LRM5s
Lighter, smaller, synergizes better, won't put him at overheat risk as much, does okay in pub matches.

Still better to take more heatsinks unless there is absolutely no more space left. New fillter-rating engines are expensive investments for a new player desu.
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>>127446709
Better a lowly soldier in the shitter defense force than be High Lord Commander of the starting shit where there isn't Master shitposting legion.

You reddit hipster watching women youre attracted to get fucked by niggers turns you on fucking cunt.

I sincerely hope all the bad things that can happen to a person happen to you.
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>>127447102
I am from the steam forums you normie
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>>127447308
>steam shitter
>calling anyone a normie

Pieces of shit like you killed KONG.
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>>127447434
>Kettle calling the pot black
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>>127432113
>mixing larges and mediums
>two srm6
>on an IS 65 tonner with std engine

how is that tier 5 ghetto treating you oh great king of shitters?
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>>127448631
Wew lad

Why do you have to be so rude?
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Hello guys is MWO p2w?
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>>127450591
It's pay not to grind. Winning mostly has to do with your team. This isn't CoD bullshit.
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>>127450591
>>127452159
and actually with the cadet bonuses now you can build yourself 1 or 2 pretty viable heavies after your first 25 matches or so. They gift you enough c-bills pretty early just do your research and choose wisely.
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>>127452649
Alright
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>>127454679
We really need to come up with something new to keep the threads alive. Like

hello guys is MWO fun?
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Hello?
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>P2W
>he bought an avenger
>Organizations
>Lobbies
>Optimization
>100m
>Blatant EVE clone
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>>127458406
who are you quoting
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Lads
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hello?
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>>127464308
#fuckoffgreg
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>>127464308
Are you "The Pizzadog"

Epic
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>Berserk manga is put on hiatus until summer of 2016
>it will return as an illregular series
>tfw only think there is robutts
>hear news of a new possible Berserk anime with Guts as "the black swordsman"
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>>127465864
are you lost?
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>>127449224
>>127448631
All this brain problems
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>>127466064
No but are you?
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EBIN BENIS
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>>127465864
cg shit tho. monkeys paw strikes again
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Al dente
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wew lads
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>>127471006
>bumping with stupid posts just to keep your tire fire of a general alive

you all should play a better game like LoL or Warframe.
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Sort of new, not sure which bundle to buy to start off. I was originally thinking Firestarter, but maybe something heavier would be a safer way to go.
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So even though alpine is getting replaced with a new frozen map, it's still going to stick around because stupid assholes voted for it.
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>>127471693
Mastery packs are only worth it for getting the hero mech + everything else, and the only hero even a little worthwhile is Misery.

You're better off just getting some premium time and a bunch of mech bays. Because mech bays are what cock blocks you from most things since you need three variants of a chassis to unlock mastery on them.
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kong drops be happening
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>>127472671
Fair enough. Any suggestions for a medium to buy with cbills? Sort of want to brawl, but maybe support.

Unless the Firestarter can fill that role and not get me murdered at the drop of a hat.
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>>127471693
In terms of bundles, you have options:

Full on meta, best value best mechs:
> Thunderbolt mastery pack
65 ton heavy mech that carries lots of energy weapons. The variants you get in the pack are the -9SE(C) (triple large pulse laser, it's currently a trial mech so you get to use the XP you've gained on it), the -5SS (great for a 7x medium pulse laser brawl build) and the Top Dog (once again, a medium laser boating brawler).

> Blackjack mastery pack
45 ton medium mech that tanks hits like a 65 ton heavy mech. The variants you get in the pack are nice and varied. The BJ-1 is really fun as a 4x medium laser 2x AC2 mech, the BJ-3 is great for 6x medium laser vomit with jump jets, and the arrow lets you build either 3x large pulse laser or 3x ER large laser 6x machine guns for some funny shit.

Fun yet okay to use mechs:
> Catapult mastery pack
65 ton heavy mech that varies a bit between having majority missile hardpoints or majority energy hardpoints. The variants in the pack are the Jester (4x large lasers, snipe away your troubles), the K2 (can vary between 3x large pulse and 4x medium laser 2x UAC5 build) and the A1(C) (currently an LRM/SRM trial mech, honestly REALLY fun with 6xSRM4+A and a large XL engine and jump jets).

> Firestarter mastery pack
35 ton light mech that runs fast and shoots a lot of lasers. They're pretty straight forward, you either skirmish or you backstab people. Ember runs 4x MPL 4x machine gun, the other two are good with 6x medium laser and 6x medium pulse.

> Stalker mastery pack
Nice, current meta assault. Boats lasers and missiles. Misery is the one variant of the chassis that lets you bring a big gun.

> Griffin mastery pack
Missile boats with a touch of laser. 2N is great for ECM and brawling, 1S(C) is great for either sniping or brawling, and sparky is a nice jumping energy mech.


Rest of the packs are not that worth it.
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>>127473167
Two things, first off don't think that clan mechs cost more than IS, clan mechs come upgraded and have their ideal engines.

As to what a decent medium would be, stormcrow can do pretty much anything and is good, if you wanted something for IS you could play the Hunchback trial mech to get a feel how mediums play in general.

Use http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/ to play with builds and get an idea of costs, as a rule of thumb for IS mechs, double heatsinks are pretty much required, endo for most builds, and very rarely will you use Ferro.
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>>127473560
>current meta assault
The Stalker will never fall out of the meta with its hardpoints. It's been the strong battle dildo we all know and love since day 1.
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>>127473864
I was looking at Metamechs for an idea on load outs and I saw 2 laser vomit builds for the Stormcrow. One has the weapons spread out across the torso and arms, and another has the weapons all on the right side. I assume this is for using the left arm to shield. Which way would be best?
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>>tfw you play with bb wolfe
>>she starts the game saying in voice chat "have a nice day~"
>>remind everyone that btw im a girl
>>trolling ensues
>>she insults kong

well she remembers who we are at least, that's kind of like having a girlfriend right guys?
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check out this faggot i found in /tf2g/

>>127469261
>playing anime the game
>having a K/D of 7
>Not having 0 deaths
>not dominating the whole enemy team
>having assists

Kill yourself faggot
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>>127479442
BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT KONG
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>>127479876
Holy shit he's terrible. And he's bragging about that?
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>>127479876
Found the guy's profile, and his build.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=236425351

He fucking based it off the worst mech, Uziel.
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>>127479951
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>>127484221
I've seen people praising crabs, I haven't got around to trying them out.
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>>127489384
They're 50 ton energy boats. They're okay. The only thing PGI really did right to them was size scaling, they're nice and tiny.
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>>127479876

why were you in tf2g
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>>127489384
they're reasonably fun and reasonably fast but not OP enough to talk about constantly

if you like lasers go for it
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You guys enjoying your rawbits and space ships?
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Is the medium 'mech performance pack on steam worth a buy?
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>>127500487

None of them are worth it. The mastery bundles aren't worth it, either, but they represent much more value than the steam packages.

Steam grab deals should only be considered if you can get a russian to pay 5 bucks for them.
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I've never played MWO.
Is it worth playing MWO?
Keep in mind that I'm coming from warframe
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>>127502369

MWO is occasionally tons of fun, but the fun is really in spite of the game, and not because of the game, and only comes about because of the people you're dropping with and against.
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>>127502369
Grind isn't as bad as warframe, mechbays will be the biggest thing to worry about if you want to be competitive in CW, which you get them from playing CW or paying.

Solo play is pretty depressing but probably the best to start off with so you can practice in the shitter underhive, Groups are fun with friends who are competent, CW is hell on earth if you have no idea what you are doing.
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>>127502369
It's free to try so if you like robots you might as well give it a shot.
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>>127507930

Make it on smurfy, you fag.
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>>127507930
what am i even looking at
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Greetings, and Happy New years from PGI!!

We love you /gerg/ and what's left of KONG.
Here is a clip of how we celebrated with the New Year Yom Kippur with the shekels we made from you and our other loyal customers.

We love you, and we hope to continue to do business with you for many years to come!
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1451940976731.webm
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>>127510190
happy new years russ
hope you enjoy working on mechs for us forever
sincerely,
kong
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>Rust Bollocks will commit suicide in 2018.
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>>127508696
>>127508754
Not viable for MWO. If heat sinks were scaled to our increased rate of fire, this would be a build that could theoretically happen on a 70 tonner.
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>>127514076

>post in MWO general.
>make build that can't be used in MWO.
>post it anyway.
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>>127515097
This is giant extreme robots general you memeing sperg.
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>>127514076
Could potentially cram 51 medium lasers on a Mech with the normal construction rules, or more using a small cockpit, compact engine or compact gyro.
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>it's a 'Doing more damage as a Catapult than almost anything else' round

Why do Catas get no love? I easily go for 500-800 damage per round, and anybody with a bit of patience can just hide by me to pick off the inevitable butthurt light.
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Seriously, even with no cooperation from light spotters, you can wreck shit with quad LRM-10s and Artemis/Beagle/Command
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>>127517052
#underhive
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>>127517342

>being an elitist F2Player

lol shitter
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>>127517052
STOP
T
O
P
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>>127517052
>LRMS
>command

oh god hahahaha
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>>127519046

>being disconnected from reality enough to assume that all pubbies have lights that do their job
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>>127521125
>>127521125
>being so far from the point
>using LRMs ever

What are you, icegryphon?
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Lets real talk here.
If you haven't spent at least 1k USD in this game since 2012 you literally have no right to say anything about this game that's worth a shit.

I guarantee all people who don't feed the PIG are poverty stricken wagecuckerinos, Discord hating dudebot dick suckers and just jealous they don't have the expendable income to buy as many mechs as they want.
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>>127516368
properly sized nova when
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>>127521441
Dude just fuck off already nobody cares.
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>>127521441
Are you bragging about spending the cost of a new computer on a free game that sucks?
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>>127521441
go to sleep dudebot
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>>127522786
>doesn't give a shit about KONG or Discord
pleb

>>127522863
>doesn't have expendable income where he can buy as much MC as he wants without sacrificing quality of life

poorfag
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>>127521441
poor quality bait dudebot

>>127523078
same here

see me after class
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>>127523078
Have fun rationalizing spending money on individual Mechs in a MechWarrior game.
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>>127523078

>lives with his parents/grandparents/is so poor that his income is insufficient enough to meaningfully reinvest so he calls the neetbux/minimum wage he earns at Burger King 'disposable income'

In a word, kek
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ITS NOT ME
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>>127523706
Ok, that actually made me a bit sad. I'll stop pretending to be Kaelus now. For what it's worth i had fun until you had to be the guy who took it too far.

I love you Kaelus, see you in discord.
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>>127523707
Don't lie dudebot

According to my Samsung Shill Shitposter TM algorithm analyzer, it is a 99.998%( repeating of course) to be you
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>can't decide on first buy

I'm going to just assume it's not a good idea and throw out piloting a Light fullstop, and I keep reading Assaults aren't new player friendly. Which leaves medium or heavy. I just can't figure out what to roll with.

I figure I should go with something that's good for medium to long range because (initially) I'll be doing games with randoms.
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>>127528049
BRAWL OR GIT OUT
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>>127528518
That was my first train of thought, still have the same issue either way. No idea which 'mech to go with.
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>>127529009
Is there any that you think you might like?
IS or Clan?
You'll have to buy three of the fuckers, so...
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>>127528049
>>127529009
A Stormcrow is a good first buy, that can do both ranges rather well.
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>>127529563
Yeah, pretty much this.
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>>127529220
Clan is a bit of a turn off for the initial price of the mech, but I read that both IS and Clan are about the same price in the end. I'd prefer Inner Sphere though, because I might buy a mastery bundle to get started.

>>127529563
>>127529779
Stormcrow comes up a lot, so if all else fails I'll go with it.
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>>127530837
If you really prefer IS the blackjack is a really popular medium right now for closer ranges, i personally like the dual gauss jager for long range.
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>>127530837
Yeah, IS mechs need new engines, heat sinks, and endo steal structure on top of buying new or more weapons. In semi rare cases you'll have to buy both endo and Ferro Fiber. This can double the cost of a single mech. Clans only need new weapons and possible artimis, since their structure, armor, and engine are locked.

I can only speak personally for the mechs I have, and for the medium class my favorite above all for IS is the Hunchback. Great platform all around.
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Has anyone here ever experimented with attaching a NARC to a heavy boat / semi-boat? There's nothing left to put on and there isn't enough space for another launcher, which would trigger spoopy thermals anyway.

It feels like it'd be worth it to buy the whole mech and loadout brand new just to stick a cheeky light with it. Or play peekaboo once with an overconfident Dakkawoof and pepper it from cover.
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>>127531530
Post the build. If there's room and tonnage you can't figure out, you're doing something wrong. Maybe an engine upgrade or some shit.
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>>127531614
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=280&l=c0ef97e81ea7386966cfd0cd6839a878269a5ef3

I guess since it is one of the few mechs with no quirks, it will never be found wanting for variety; just fork out more cash for stuff.
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>>127532541
...of all the things one could use an Ebin Jag for.
>select all the images with boats
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>>127532541
are you retarded
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>>127428997
Hi, /gerg/. I didnt play for more than a year stopped before twirks or something like that, so i need your guidance. Is this shit useful? If not, what should i change?
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>>127532748
Switch the Gauss for an UAC/20 or /10. Cool down on Gauss is a full 5 seconds now.
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>>127532674
I can leave the big gun and laser vomit roles to the other Ebin brothers. I need to buy three in any case.
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>page 9
It is time for fun.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=261&l=78289248d8e9d04d45e1670c4fbdf8dfe379ecaa
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Makings progress of hunchrobot mastery, is not fun to usings lasers of homosex. Good thing Ivanovich only has to elite shitty hunchrobot once so he can of gettings back to glorious 4G and 4J
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http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/218691-january-road-map/

>"Once you’ve used your one free name change, any subsequent name changes will cost 4500MC (~$25USD)."
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We're totally gonna re-vamp and remove the old Alpine guys.
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>>127539202
When are they making the game not shit?
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>>127539276
Quantum Position Physics in action
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>>127539276

2016 will feature advances in the field of position changing, I see.
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=183&l=3bc2cb95b7286d24ce5edda708c7448d990ca45f

or pulse? And should I lump weapons on one side and use an arm to shield?
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>>127447434

If you're gonna post as Kaelus you need to be more condescending and then write a blogpost replying to obvious bait
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Got this in the mail today.
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Is the Nova Prime a good first mech? Last I played it was on trial or something, I remember liking it.
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>>127544973

Better robutt.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=183&l=d5b8491afc602c20ebe513acc7c05843251f17d7
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>>127551196

Nova is shit tier. Start with a 55 tonner instead.
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>Welcome to MWO Oceanic Server.
>Ping 400
Th-thanks.
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>>127550570
>mixing Latin, French, and English

It's almost Transhuman.
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hello?
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ACH is love, ACH is life.
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>>127558827
Literally who in the underhive
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Black Knight worthwhile?
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>Tfw no video games
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>>127561747

I'm willing to play some fun fighting games.
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hello?
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>>127528049
>>127529009
>>127530837
IS brawlers are fun and can punch way above their weight class, provided you tool them out right and learn the critical art of situational awareness.
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>>127566923
>those mech names
wew lad
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>>127566923
>le brawling IS mediums meme

al dente
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AAAHHHHH
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>>127567046
They're all accurate. The Centurion I literally aim at the groin to strip CT/legs, unless they're already missing armour somewhere in which case I harvest their delicious innards. Hunchie I just cave the CT in, and I have gotten a few headshot kills. Critvomit is named so because it has an LB-10X and two machine guns.

>>127567437
SO TASTY
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lads
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If/when pgi finally advances the timeline how do you think stealth armor should be implemented?
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>>127572668
>Thinking we'll get new features

If they advance the timeline it'll be to make new grab deals.
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>>127572801
Of course. Think of all the old man dollars that will flow when the bushwacker and uziel are released.
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THE CLAMPS
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>>127572951

>implying MWO golds have any nostalgic attachments to MW4 shitmechs.

We'll get more unseen instead.
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will I be able to max out this garbage game with a 4790K and a 980 Ti
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>>127574787
>Years playing
>Hey, the Warhammer's coming out huh
>Buy the pack
>Weeks later
>Wait, did I really spend money on this fucking game?

I'm not even that old, I started on MW4 then later on played the earlier ones... I swear getting the IP has been the best thing that has ever happened to PGI. Why is there such a lack of Mech universes that aren't anime turds?
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>>127575656
no
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>>127578976
Because there isnt a universe backed by decades of lore and fond memories.

Do we know when the unseen will come out for cbills?
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>>127579153
That's it, it's the fucking lore that does it... How I wish for a new grime-soaked, acne-ridden nerd team to dream up some mechshit I can throw money at and not feel dirty.

Dates on Unseen mechs are "TBD". AKA "when we stop raking in the money" I guess.
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Can we make loadsa dosh with narc and tag?
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>>127579869
Fug I was afraid of that. I want some MAD for my exoskeleton themed drop deck of locust, crab, marauder, and king crab. Its like pokemon evolutions.

I guess we will have to wait for someone with as much mech autism as we have to develop a universe as captivating as BT that gets a solid following. Im getting my battlefleet gothic 2.0 thanks to DropFleet Commander, so maybe there is a slim chance we can get some mech revival down the road. Current state will always be suffering.
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>>127579957
no
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Guys is MWO p2w?

And which steam mech pack has the best value?
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>>127550570
where are your nails?
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>>127582137
>Guys is MWO p2w?
no
>And which steam mech pack has the best value?
You should buy all of them
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>>127582137
>Guys is MWO p2w?
Yes.

>And which steam mech pack has the best value?
None, don't buy them.
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>>127583703
>>127583840
This reminds me of the 2 talking doors where one is telling the truth and the other one is lying.

when you pick wrong you die :^)
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just started playing mwo, does the day's worth of premium time run down even while not playing?
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>>127585590
Yes
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>>127579869
The lore is awesome and fucking depressing 4 galaxy wide wars have pretty much made technology into quasai magical.
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>>127582805

Eaten.
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>>127585708
what a surprise.

is there a /gerg/ group in mwo that sticks to one particular faction or does everyone here just play separately and shitpost?
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>>127593092
GONK plays usually Clan Wolf KONG alway switches. So if you enjoy clans you can join GONK if not then youre better off solo
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>>127593092
check the mumble in the op, but we haven't had many players on lately. depends heavily on timezone.

we have two groups in game, KONG for IS and GONK for clans
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>>127539276
FUCK

Are they at least going to adjust the geometry and add some fucking trees?!
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So I see people say Hunchbacks are good, and then I see other people say they are bad. Which is it?
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>>127599387
hunchbacks are effective when they have the high ground
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>>127599387
They can put out some serious hurt if they don't get focused but are otherwise soft as fuck.

Also the 4j is one of the few mechs that can really justify using lurms with the perks that it has.
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>>127599932
So it's treason then.
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lads?
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>>127607718
hi
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>>127607718
wew
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>>127608595
lass
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>mumble dead
>discord dead
>ded thred
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>kong is dead
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>>127612986
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*ahem*
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>>127613454
>kaelus is ded
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>>127613827
I'm still here.
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>>127612629
>>127612986
>>127613827
who are you quoting?
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>>127614941
I am quoting the all and powerful hacker called 4chan have you heard of him? Hes a technology analyst and hes good.
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Haven't played in a fucklong time. Started recently again cause fml and only played in the mega underhive. Hows the meta and what's meta mechs atm? Is mastered atlas still usefull agains people with a brain or did it get totaly eclipsed? I've been fucking scrubs up the butt in muh warboss of old but that's in level 5 underhive, so meh.
Not a thinly vailed bump, I swear.
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>started playing mwo in dec
>come to gerg
>lurk
>KONG seems like a pretty cool guy
>doesn't afraid of anything
>time goes by
>shitpost with the best
>feel it is time
>need to be one of KONG intensifies
>KONG falls apart due to internal drama

well, fuck you fags. i didn't wanna be a part of your stupid circlejerk anyway.

oh and Vass sounds like a fag in the podcasts
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>>127616103
We arent falling apart. Its just a whole meme.
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>>127616103
>Vass sounds like a fag
>implying he isn't one

Pic related is Vass challenging HUcast to sweaty king of mexicans XIII batchalls.
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>>127616781
>We arent falling apart
[citation needed]
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>>127617339
>using an old gif that you turned into a webm
Nice try Kaelus
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>>127615859
Atlas is okay for higher tiers but it is usually locked into short range brawling builds. Very dependent on your team's behavior. The HP buffs helped a lot.
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>>127618986
>locked into short range brawling builds
That's no different than it was.
Good that it's still usefull in high tiers, I've always loved the atlas. I asume its warboss or that new(er) S variant? It wasn't around when I mastered mine.
What's a good heavy to get? Timberdoggie rapes everything else I asume? I've seem muhrauders but that shit's loked behind paywall for now.
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>>127620079
I have not loved my Muhrauders for what it is worth. They feel huge and slow, but also somehow undergunned. Maybe I'm not playing with the right builds.

If you want a big slow assault with ballistics, you probably want the KKrab.
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>>127620820
>I have not loved my Muhrauders for what it is worth
A dayum same.
Crab looks great but I was actualy talking about heavy mechs. I've already got muh atlas for ass-aulting. Maybe I'll get a crab aferwards, but I lack a heavy atm.
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Still fairly new, any suggestions for a medium or heavy brawler?
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>>127621703
>Medium brawler
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>>127621703
"brawling" in a medium is a bad meme. The reality of "brawling" with mediums is that you're actually hiding behind your heavies and assaults and praying nobody notices you so you can sneak around and nail their butts while they're distracted. Either that, or you grab a butt-buddy and try to go tag-team a straggling enemy, but light mechs do the wolfpack strategy better, and it falls apart against any team with a hint of neural activity.

All that leaves you with is the "shield arm" meme, a potential for a slight speed advantage over a heavy, and hopefully jumpjets to dunk with.
I miss shadowhawk meta.
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>>127621047
>dashing is hotter than you
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anyone here play vanilla WoW?

remember the blood of heroes in the plaguelands?
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>>127625684
shut the fuck up pizzafag nobody likes you

fucking tripfag attention whore
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>>127625684
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>>127622364
>>127624018
Oh. Well, which heavies are good for brawling then?
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>>127632104
Thunderbolt.
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>>127632104

Furious Feline. Fast, good armor, lots of guns.
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>>127635003
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>>127624018
>turtle Medium strategy
No wonder you think they're bad. Medium brawlers are basically lone wolf opportunists. Loadout is absolutely critical since you need to be fast and still hit hard. Lights can harass and pick off isolated mechs, your job is to either get close to the enemy via cover, or lurk and wait for their advance to pass you. Use targeting info to pick out which mechs are weakened and where, and drop the hammer on them. You're not a harasser, don't commit to an attack unless you're confident you can cripple or kill your target. Don't hide behind the blob because you WILL get spotted as an easy kill by lurm shitters. If you can survive to end game intact you can usually lay waste to enemy heavies/assaults that have been damaged by the big fight.

Hunchie 4G is a little different. You can do the lone wolf strategy, but you can also play it like a StuG with legs and make life hard for the enemy advance.
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>>127633510
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=115&l=be47274a5c14456e3896779ee9cea1863d0df921

From metamechs, is this still accurate? or is there a better model and loadout for brawling?

>>127635120
Furious Feline?
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>>127636191
>Furious Feline?
He means the Madcat, which is called the Timber Wolf in-game.

Surprise, Clan 'mechs all have two names: their clan name, and the Inner Sphere designation for them since they didn't know the clan names while they were being invaded.

Examples:
Summoner = Thor
Hellbringer = Loki
Nova = Black Hawk
Dire Wolf = Daishi
Timber Wolf = Madcat
Maddog = Vulture

There's a few people in kong that refuse to call them by their trueborn names. The more you know.
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>>127636390
Don't the IS have their own models of the Vulture and Mad Cat? I'm not super with the lore, but I'm guessing they're basically ripoffs with the same designation?
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>>127591192
Delicious
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>>127636574
No.
But the Bushwacker in lore had some issues that were solved by reverse engineering of a Clan Mad Dog.
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>>127636574
There is something similar between the two in IS called the Avatar
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Anyone Wana join me in kong mumble and play robots?
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>>127617339
Holy shit is that old. I'm still purple bird.
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>>127635563
>Medium brawlers are basically lone wolf opportunists
>lone wolf opportunists
This is so unbelievably wrong it's painful. Running off from the group is so deadly in this game because remaining undetected while still getting enough information on the enemy team to see and take advantage of opportunities almost never happens. Maybe you can Deus Ex: HR your way behind enemy lines in the underhive when scrubs don't notice the 3rd person drone but literally any time you are gathering information on the enemy team to find an opportunity, the enemy team can and probably does know where you are.

Medium mech brawlers provide thug power. Gang up on people. Your atlas batchalling an onion? Who fuckin cares, 2v1 that faggot, more armor left on the atlas.
Deathballs mash together? Almost fucking chaos? This is where you shine. You should have been in the middle of your blob, once they mix for real, dive right the fuck in, the safest way out is through. If their big beefy brawling front line actually start to try and focus you down, they have to turn and give their ass to YOUR big beefy front line. Now just be the biggest dick possible. Shoot some faggots in the ass, get some 2nd line faggots attention and force him to commit to killing you, go after some lurm shitter firing into the blob and ruin his day.
Focus firing does win games but you can get away with not doing it if you fuck with the other teams attempts.
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>>127639710
>someone actually understands the art of playing mediums

neat
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>>127639710
That's the slippery slope you have to try and navigate, and that's why I said speed and loadout is critical. You keep the death ball at arm's reach, but stay close enough you can do a hit-and run on mechs with a weakness like red torso armour or an exposed leg, or fall back to the mob if things start looking pear shaped. Don't actually stick your head out and gather data, because yeah you will either get lurmed or swarmed by lights, just siphon targeting data off your allies, I just cycle targets like mad to keep track of what is where and what their damage is like. Fuck the 3PP drone.

Your tactic is totally valid and I've kicked wholesale ass using the meme Shaq 2k build in that exact situation, but I've noticed that most of the time assault pilots are cowards and simply won't break cover to capitalize on you distracting the enemy, and you can't fuck off as quickly as a light so it's game over for you. I love Mining Collective (wait, hear me out) because it's the most likely map to result in a clusterfuck brawl, but a lot of others like Caustic Anus are just turtle-thons
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>>127639710
Also continuing from >>127640978 when I talk about 'opportunities' I mean exactly like your example of ganging up with an Atlas to bully whoever he's fighting. If it's obvious the enemy mechs has their attention planted on a friendly heavy/assault, fuck yeah I'm gonna leap in and kneecap the bastard with a shotgun blast of SRM's.
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=84&l=a940cf444787f66af24118ca029d7704daabf489

How good is this Quickdraw load out? Trying to decide on a mech and I'm not sure if I want some sort of ranged heavy, or to go in as a light (probably a Firestarter) and just learn how to use them and probably get murdered while doing so.
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>>127640978
>simply won't break cover
Did you read what I said? Outside the underhive if you dive the enemy team when your assaults aren't ALREADY out of cover you are dead.

Staying out of LOS and relying on target info means you'll at best know where half the enemy team is at one time, you jump a ridge to fuck some dipshit that peaked and gotta almost cored and there's a Daishi that's never been targeted that just happens to be looking withing 60 degrees of your direction, RIP. Opportunistic trading isn't a medium mech thing. It's an every mech thing. If you can stick your dick out around the corner for a second and get more done than what is done to you, do it. If you can gang up on someone, do it. Mediums just tend to be able to wag their dicks around faster and safer and jump faggots faster and from farther.

Medium mech brawlers are about using a distraction to BE a BIGGER distraction. If the deathballs smash together and you come from the side because you were lucky enough to not be noticed, you either sit and wait/look for an opportunity or you go to work on some shit's ass, alerting him to your presence, but the rest of the enemy team will still be focused on the point of contact, still have most of their firing line pointed at yours.

If you come from the front, dive in, ALL the back line guys pointed at your atlas fist fighting with their krab KNOW you're here to cause shit. They have maybe 5 seconds to realize you're diving, all target you and vaporize you. Five seconds of live or die. If they don't notice what you're doing and end you in those five second, you're in amongst them. Within 150 meters, 80-90 kph is enough speed to force people to slow down and start turning around to kept targeting you. If the deathballs smash together and five seconds later half of the other team is spinning around trying to put down one shitbird because he deliberately crossed infront of their crosshairs at point blank before running behind them, you win, right there.
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>>127641606
That is the standard quickdraw build. It's reasonably good.
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>>127617339
If your not on this list you are neo shit tier kong

This thread exists solely for the entertainment of dudebot
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Omnimech heroes and new variants when?

The summoner could become really good if they just released the SMN-F and SMN-M variants.

Then you'd be able to equip 6x energy 1x missile or 5x energy 1x ballistic 1x missile on a summoner.
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>>127644881
Timber Wolf will be the first one to have a Hero variant, already confirmed through a Town Hall. Their excuse is that they have a giant back-log of mechs that need textures, updates, and changes.
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>>127642840
I've played this approach and it's not to my liking. I prefer long-game strategies rather than rushing in and maybe enabling my team to win with a critical distraction, because yeah it's probably an underhive issue, but frankly you just can't rely on players to have your back unless you do group queue drops, which has its own trials and tribulations of metabuild blowhards and whale pods.

That's not to say you aren't using completely valid tacics, like I said before. Frankly our approaches are very similar, I'm just slightly more cautious. If the enemy deathball is destracted I WILL go to work on someone's ass, I'll just take ten seconds to see if there's someone I can buttfuck and then withdraw before the enemy notices too much. My hunchie build runs five tonnes of ammo and I frequently run the cannon dry.
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>>127636574
There is no specific copy of the Vulture. The Spheroid copy of the Mad Cat is the Rakshasa. Since the origin of the Mad Cat name was the fact that it looked like a cross between a Catapult and a Marauder, the Rakshasa is also built upon a General Motors Marauder chassis (but is understandably worse overall).

Very late into the timeline, the Invader Clans get kicked out of their homeworlds due to numerous shenanigans and will fully settle into the Inner Sphere. Some of the more pragmatic Clans have a tendency to trade and sell mechs with the five Houses, so there is a lot of tech trickling down into every military force.
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>>127645441
Oh, silly me. As another anon pointed out, the Avatar is a heavier copy of the Vulture. Even has the same legs.
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>>127616103
>oh and Vass sounds like a fag in the podcasts

Thanks for listening. I wish we made more of them.
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>>127647681

Maybe we'll make some more now that Kaelus doesn't control what Kong talks about.
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>>127635240

Fuck is it with golds and outdated hardware?
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Even steam scrubs know the game's fucked up. He was met with 3 pages of white knights defending PGI and their shit decisions.
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So how exactly should I be playing Firestarters? Escort, poke, wubs up their ass?
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>>127649841
>water cooled 210
And you know the stupid fuck probably bought that separately, because if you can seriously buy a 210 that's factory water cooled I'm going to kill myself.
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>>127649412
i love that meme
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>>127649412
>Laser and Kaelus are the only people that made the effort to make the podcast
>complains that they control it

Everyone else is lazy.
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>>127657343
facts don't belong here, i'm gonna have to ask you to leave if you can't properly meme and shitpost

fucking truthers
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hello?
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>>127661575
DELETE THIS
FUCKING RETARD
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>>127661629
Nice post Kakos
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>>127663727
Literally who
>>
Ayy
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Ok you niggers I still have 20,000 mech credits from my horrible decision to be a founder for this game and after all these years some friends of mine want to play it.

What the fuck do I spend 20,000 jewgold on in MWO
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>>127668782
>What the fuck do I spend 20,000 jewgold on in MWO

More regrets
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>>127668782
Some mechs
Loads of mechbays
Premium time, activate from website so it only consumes 30 days per activation
Maybe some faggot horns, especially the Lunch Truck one
A few mech mastery packs or heroes are acceptable, examine mechbay and smurfy first
Never ever buy C-bills for MC
Try not to buy permanent camo patterns, the value vs expense is too low
Loads of mechbays
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>>127669085
Well yes that of course

>>127669375
thanks. mechbay and smurfy have recommended mastery packs?
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>>127668782
Mech mastery bundles are a good value if you like the mechs avail. The Blackjack one is decent, as are Thunderbolts.

Other than that, warhorns, one shot camo (pick one you like for a mech, never change it), mechbays.
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>>127636574
The Vulture is essentially the Clan version of the Archer and the Mad Cat is the genetical offspring of the Marauder and Catapult.

Likewise the Loki is the Clanagram of the Warhammer and the Thor is the Thunderbolt.

Probably other Mechs have parallels, like the Hellhound apparently being the intended Wolverine IIC but because the antics of Clan Wolverine made that name verboten the Mech was called something else.
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>>127671956
>boobplate
Incompetent Lyrans, as usual.
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>>127672224
I bet she's secretly flat beneath that armor and desperately tries to conceal it. They all think bigger is better over there, after all.
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>>127668782
If you intend to actually play for a while you could use the MC to convert Mech XP to GXP and unlock nearly all the Mech and weapon modules. GXP seems to be the only way to get the modules unlocked and it is normally earned at a ridiculously low rate without converting individual Mech XP. That said you probably would want to use the initial Mech XP to unlock the skill tree first, but any Mech XP earned after mastering a variant is only useful for GXP conversion at that point.
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>>127672543
Also the usual conversion rate is 25XP per 1MC so with 20,000 MC you could get 500,000 GXP from conversion.
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>>127672925
you would also need mech xp to convert
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>>127672543
I find myself in a funny place. I've played the game for so long that I own all the important mech modules and consumable upgrades already; now all that is left is to casually dump GXP into whatever new weapon I'm using as a primary. The pool is seemingly endless and there are never too many builds that can't make use of old modules.

The endgame in MWO is overly comfy compared to other games.
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>>127675562
this shitter serious?
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>>127676767
I like your numbers
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Kakos Kaelus "Connoisseur" Koko Kolos
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>>127678907
I know who you are
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>>127679359
Kakos "I don't like excesive moles" Kolos pls
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wew
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lads
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i summon the mighty Haracuck because i need advice on yiff robots

what is the best way to build a laser mad cat using CERML and CLPLs?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=270&l=d0eb3a496405511039fa9d603dfd1dee5cc7eae8

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=270&l=a965e716afd74bc8dfcdc59432f83efcf0f04980

which one?
are the penalities from the A LT that bad or are they manageable?
is it worth taking it for the high mounted hardpoints?
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>>127686182
The LPLs in each side torso, avoid the -A LT unless you want to boat a lot of lasers

2ML on one arm and none in the other is the best as well, using a shield arm as best the TBR can
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>>127687294
Harayiff will Clan Woof ever return to his former glory?
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wow
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>>127687294
When are you getting back to robots mang?
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>>127690698
I was just playing

>>127687708
The Klan will rise again
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>>127690853
awoooooooooooooooooh
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Rust here guys AMA
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>>127691836
Is mwo p2w?
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>>127692208
No, get good faggot
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>>127692301
wow how rude
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>>127691836
>>127692301
>>127692208
>>127692847

Speaking of that obese homosexual, apparently his argumentation for calls of balance now resort to "Lol u r clan u only want buffs 2 be op" when someone whose unit had spent the last few months player inner sphere commented that the IS range quirks need to be toned down to give clans equal footing. Dismissing someones experiences and commentary because it doesn't fit his narrative.

This is the kind of person that leads PGI.
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>>127694817
I will fight you
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=77&l=939201a7cd72de394599636045b4a588dc4ea32b

Did I waste c-bills doing this build?
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>>127694881
I appreciate your shitposting efforts to try and bump the thread and all, but you don't need to make yourself a caricature of the blob that is PGI's lead developer.

He is a caricature and a sick joke to the world all just by himself.
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>>127695263
but how will I spread the word about our new $20-40 US mech packs that provide the newest and best mechs for the meta at the time of sale?
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>>127695231
Nah, it's a good build. Fun, too.
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>>127679359
dat bulge
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I suck at MWO how do I get gud?
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WHEN DID THEY ADD VOIP TO MECHWARRIOR ONLINE?!?!?
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>>127699669
No one uses it.
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>>127699669
Its been a thing for almost a year now? If not longer
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>nigger makes a thread about how the maps are shit and are basically all the same king of the hill garbage
>support his thread and agree with him
>'OMG WHY YOU BASHING THE PIG DURRRR'

what the fug
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http://steamcommunity.com/app/342200/discussions/0/458605613390709624/

>guy wants the 10 heatsink requirement removed
>people say that wouldn't be faithful to lore
>MWO
>faithful to lore
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>>127668782
IF you decide to buy C-Bills like a faggot, buy the Cicada champion and sell it instead like a slightly-less faggot.
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>>127697182
also wth don't my weapons fire at the same time when I have them grouped together? and it's not cooldown related
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>>127702150
Backspace toggles chainfire mode.
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>>127700691
>Mech quirks for 'balance' purposes are already hard on the limit of what i consider acceptable changes.
wew

Speaking of lore, what's the best MW book/book series?
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>>127700162
>golds, white knights, and even black knights hate Pardo
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>>127702398
don't think that's what I"m looking for. I have 4 mid range weapons grouped to 1...but when I left click it only fires one of then. and a second left click fires another ect.
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MAD CATS ARE ON SALE

SHOULD I BUY ONE

WHICH ONE

KEEP IN MIND I'M A SHITTER
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Get in mumblo fagets and play robits. Stop being ded.
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>>127707163
If it has a CT with specific things in it you buy those ones. If it has no hardpoints in the CT it doesnt matter.
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>>127713756
So I guess my CT choices for the timber wolf are a lasor or a jump jets?
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>>127706667
Yep, that means it's in chain fire mode, hitting backspace toggles between chain fire, and group fire. Keep in mind that it only applies for the selected weapon group, and it's entirely valid to have the same weapons assigned to say, group 4 in chain-fire mode so that you can fire them individually while running hot but NEED an extra shot or two.
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HOLY SWEET MOTHER OF FUCK
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>>127702627
Everything by Robert N. Charrette is pretty good especially wolves on the border and heir to the dragon.
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>>127719361
Holy shit this dude
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>>127719361
I'm curious to see exactly how bad those shitmechs are, but just reading the post gave me a tumor...
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>>127724401
http://steamcommunity.com/app/342200/discussions/0/458605613388813230/#c458605613391339980
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So anyone remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI

Old men unite
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I have a friend who is returning to the game after a long time. He owns 4 mechs, the HBK-4P and 4SP, and the Cataphract 1X and 4X.

I want to reintroduce him to the game as painlessly as possible by getting his existing mechs into some semblance of meta-compliance (difficult as that may be with these bronze age designs). I can help with the Hunchies fine, but I haven't played with Phracts for over a year.

Are there ANY viable builds to be done with those robots? Bonus points for ones that use STD engines.
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>>127727894
At the least make sure he picks up the 0XP Cataphract. It has ECM and that helps tons for new players. 4MPL + AC20 and ECM is a solid build.
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>>127727894
http://metamechs.com/mwo-guides/is-master-guides/cataphract/

There's a sick UAC5/AC5 build for the 4x it's kekmoa as fuck senpai desu imo just down low on the imho
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>>127727894
Make him stash those hunchies for now and concenate on the phracts. Mediums a shit and need experiance. Let him do what >>127728290 said, maybe swap mpl for normal ml if he has trouble with the heat/wants a bigger engine.
He can do the same build on the 1X sans ECM but with one laser more, if he can't afford the 0XP right now.
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>>127731745
>Mediums a shit and need experiance.

Not the same anon, but really? I was going to go with a Blackjack as my first mech...
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Is it better for a maximum boatz EbinA to take two large pulse lasers and 6 medium lasers, or drop one laser and rearrange to fit another heatsink? One pokes a little better, one pokes a little more often. Both are hot anyway.
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>>127732885
It would be 25 vs 24 sinks, by the way.
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>>127731934
Blackjacks are very good, even slightly OP.
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>>127732885
>>127733059
go for max alpha and try not to kill yourself

if you actually want to have fun, bring 3UAC5s and 5ERSL
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>>127732885
2LPL 4ML
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>>127731934
Stormcrows and blackjacks are the few exceptions.
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>>127733148
I was making that one a minute ago, but with triple mediums instead. Does that extra half ton of ammo really matter?
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>>127731934
Separate anon here. Blackjacks are too strong and are defs worth as fugg.
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>>127733761
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=281&l=2f7ee9af77b99e2092e0b95e31e5456f537519c2
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Don't die.
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>>127446169

I'm a total faggot for lurms.

And I wouldn't do that to a T-bolt.

Not more than once, you poor pulseboat.

They're definitely laserboaters, which one depends on what you're quirked for. Unless it's the ERPPC one.

That's either 3xERPPC or 2xERPPC on the high mount + lasers.
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http://steamcommunity.com/app/342200/discussions/0/458605613389417642/
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https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/684471274584670208

>Nova getting re-scaled soon
taking this with a grain of salt but still fucking finally
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>>127489885

That and they can move at a good clip, generate a decent alpha, carry a much smaller profile than the Hunchback-P...oh and there's a jump-capable version.
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>>127517052

>using Command Console

Not even once. It does jack shit for missiles, since it doesn't improve lock-on times. All it does is make the little damage paperdoll pop-up sooner.

And Catapults don't get much love because they're ancient chassis that got arm cancer, missed out on really decent quirks and had their ballistic role easily outdone by the Jagermech, thus removing the one truly legendary build (the Gauss/AC 'Pult) from being really worth anything.

It's a mediocre missile chassis, and I got better performance out of a fucking CataPHRACT-2X lurmboating than you are with that thing.
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>>127718038
Ohh thank you
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>>127532541

Clan NARC actually has a much longer reach than the IS version. 600m means basically that if the NARC's in range, you're probably at the right range for launching LRMS anyway.

You're horribly underammoed though. Two tons per launcher is table-top tier loadout. I normally suggest 8 tons of ammo for LRM30, never mind LRM45.

Here. EBJs aren't really for lurming, but this oughta work.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=280&l=eb4321fea8b119ca2395fa3b9e3399ae8434dbb4
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>>127574035

>Grey Death II

He didn't get into one of those grognard rants, did he?

I think him and Hades Trooper went at it on Caustic and the only winner was which one died first.
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>>127574787

I actually lost a bet and have ended up with the Archer pack as a result.

Winner got to choose which shitty game the loser had to spend money on and the same amount in bar tab. I'm out about $100 because Notre Dame a bowl shit.

I was gonna make him blow it on Maple Story.
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>>127616103

KONG is always ded.

Because with time, even death may die.
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>>127620079

Yeah. Structure buffs really, really helped the Atlas get tanky again. Boar's Head does OK, too.
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>>127741992
Kong was dropping not an hour ago. Had like six people.
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I've played a lot of War Thunder and I'm pretty interested in getting into Mech Warrior. How are the controls and the P2W aspects? Is it fair for noobs or am I fucked if I start now?
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>>127744002
go play Armored Warfare instead
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>>127744002
>I'm pretty interested in getting into Mech Warrior.

Why the everloving fuck would you be interested in MWO?
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>>127744002
Controls are fine, but I personally find that it's frustrating if you have to use the keyboard to use weapon groups, so I have everything slaved to buttons on my mouse.
It's not pay 2 win, so much as it's pay 2 skip grind.
Starting in the underhive with stock builds is fun. Starting in the underhive with personalized custom meta mechs should be illegal. You'll be fighting absolute retards, and unless you are one, will progress out of their ranks rather quickly. Once you do, the gloves come off, and the real grind begins. Some of the maps are shit. Don't be shocked if you find some interesting bugs in them either like the occasional floating shrub, invisible wall, or even a missing texture here and there.
There's a lot of other stuff I don't feel like taking the time to explain right now...
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>>127744002
The controls are great if you mean keyboard and mouse. Joystick is only for the underhive.

Noobs fight against noobs so you're only fucked if you're legitimately retarded.
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Meta build 2016 compliant
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>>127744002
Considering how underpowered many of the newest mechs are, I'd say it's kind of pay 2 lose.
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The builds don't get any better.
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Does anyone have the image that does the number crush it would take for you to grind things in MWO?
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>>127735143
5 tons is also what I used but I prefer not to skimp on the leg armor whenever possible. Also, what's with your laser distribution going towards the left arm?

>>127741250
I actually did not notice that Clan NARC has a longer range, so thanks.

I dunno about 1620 missiles on a mech with only two launchers. My Missilerauder didn't really need more than 900 to do well in regular public matches, and that is a mech with cooldown quirks, though it sometimes ran empty by the end. 5 MLs usually took care of that problem though.

That build I originally posted had full leg armor. It can be stripped anytime in case 1080 feels too restrictive, probably what I'll do when I get some time to actually play the damned game.
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>>127719361
That dumb nigger is now trying to "defend" his shitty XL hunchie builds from Empyrrean by posting screenshots of him getting 1k damage... In a fucking KING CRAB.
In tier fucking 4.
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PGI is looking for a new level designer.

https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/684898013286797312

Chad probably got fired.
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>>127756568
Who would've guessed.

Video games?
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>>127757270

I've got your videogames right here.
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>>127756568
>https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/684898013286797312

and all the trouble making golds want to jump on it. game's only going to get more retarded undoubtly.
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>>127757478
what game?
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>>127757478
Inverse Kinematics?
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>>127757703
>>127757732

Bocu no pico: cowboy stories.
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>sell incomplete packages.
>not many fall for the pig's ruse.
>people rather quit than grind and buy 4 shitty variants at full price.
>knee jerk 35% 'sale.'

If only PGI had offered good deals from day 1.
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>>127758306
It really should have been. Like it should have been packages with 6 mechs, 3 variants of one Clan and one IS. MC, CBills, and a unique camo for Steam because people love exclusive shit. And it's not like they didn't have time for this shit either. These "Performance Packs" weren't thrown together in like a day, they were ready two months in advance.
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>>127758528

>no trading cards.
>no emotes.
>no backgrounds.
>no Valve camo.
>no mechwarrior themed items in TF2.
>no steam and valve related cockpit bling.
>no steam event.

Steam launch was just another line in the sand.
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So... would an LRM boat be beginner friendly?
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>>127761127
For pugs? not really, mostly because it relies on positioning and the team holding locks, I'd recommend something flexible so that you could try different loadouts until you find what you like.
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>>127761621
For pugs, yes. I was thinking about rolling with a long ranged mech because I've had horrible luck trying to brawl or be up close. Contemplating a BJ-1 with 2 AC/2s and some lasers, but that plan isn't set in stone yet.
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>>127761883
I've heard ac2s are pretty bad but you could try it blackjacks are really good right now, mostly for laser spam. although I mostly brawl anyway so I don't really know.
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>>127761883
BJ-1 with 4x medium lasers and 2x AC2's is pretty damn good.

If you want an LRM boat that can do shit, get the Hunchback 4SP and put on 2xLRM10+Artemis (7 tons of ammo), beagle active probe, 5x medium laser and XL255.

The Hunchback 4SP with 2x LRM10's fires really fast, and since your role is to support teammates firing on targets, you'll be able to add on some really nasty damage up to 1000m.
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>>127762839
Alternatively, you can get the Hunchback 4J if you want to do nothing but spam LRMs.
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>>127762839
>>127763140
Is LRM spam actually good/helpful, though?
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>>127765068
Helpful against targets out in the open or engaged in a fight with another team member, but their biggest advantage IMO is their ability to do damage without exposing yourself to the enemy
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it couldn't be
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>>127769213
jesus christ...
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>>127769213
wew no way
he said biochemist
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>>127762839
I originally believed that BAP reduced the lock time on LRMs, but everywhere I looked I couldn't find any solid evidence that it does that. Therefore BAP is only worth it on Clam mechs to counter ECM since their LRMs can do damage within 180 meters. 1.5 tons can buy IS boats some valuable extra items or armor.
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hello?
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>>127770436
Beagle active probes, both clan and inner sphere, work exactly the same way. They increase sensor range by 25%, decrease lock-on time, and counter ECM. The difference is that the clan variant takes 1 less critical slot and 1/2 tons less weight.
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>>127772508
>>127770436
You CAN forego the beagle active probe if if you put on the TAG or a UAV consumable into your loadout, but you have to keep in mind that UAVs have limited range and can be disabled, and TAG only works if you can get direct line of sight to the target and keep the TAG on them.
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>>127772508
They decrease TARGET INFO GATHER time by 25%, not lock-on time. That was the meme I bought into for a very long time until I decided to actually research it myself.

>>127772709
I prefer not even using TAG. Lurms aren't ever capable of competing with direct fire weapons in poke battles, why even try?

Let faster teammates give you targets first and start locking on before you even leave cover, if at all. Artemis FCS is there for when you do need to get the lock-ons yourself quickly.
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>>127772318
heyy
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>>127773236
Are you dutch?
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We'll finally be able to bring back the "Is this the new map?" meme.
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>>127773540
>to bring back something that has never been gone
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>>127773396
Go away Karn go ask if people are dutch somewhere else
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>>127770436
BAP reduces lock on time. It was an essential component on our ancient LRM Catapults. Ask LaserAngel.
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New, I'm thinking of spending my cadet bonus to get mad cats.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=163&l=0b47c04a3e2511313b5d5af224327df7a1e2a83a

Is this build a viable one for it? I primarily mean it to be a skirmisher that melts armour or cripples enemies before closing in and blasting them with some dakka dakka.
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>>127777821
>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=163&l=0b47c04a3e2511313b5d5af224327df7a1e2a83a
is this a new meme
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Why do people call the Mad Cat a Timberwolf?
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>>127777821

>megaguns.
>mfw.
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>>127779810
Because it's the actual name of the mech as declared by its designers
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>>127777821
>MGs
Please don't, unless the mech is a meme mech with no other options and too many ballistic slots.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=163&l=cdef70f268f3e479af383e342b4c0fe9bb3b5db7

Remember that ammunition is consumed from HD, to CT, to RT, LT, LA, RA, LL, to RL. When building symmetrical ammo-heavy builds, spread the ammo out to reduce the chance of an explosion and keep some in the Right Arm as a reserve in case your left side is destroyed early. You can shift around the ammo and sinks if you want. Careful with the heat override now.
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>>127777821
>daka
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>>127780173
Are CMG's no longer god-tier for shredding exposed components? Funny story, I whipped up an almost identical build, but kept the MG's for one less ERML
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>>127781481
If you can take 4~ MGs can be sort of worth it.

Here's the thing about critting though, they actually aren't that great at it. Oh, sure, they have the added crit rate bonus, but the way crits work in this game means they are constantly re-rolling items to crit, and even with their DPS they are spreading tiny amounts of damage on every component. Compare this to heavier hitting ballistics, PPCs, etc. All of those, when they crit, will crit for a lot more damage at once on one item. Considering most things have 10HP, PPCs/AC10s/Gauss/AC20 are by far the most devastating weapons for critical hits. Even lasers, if the full burn is kept (or a significant chunk) are much better at critting than MGs.

This is also why LBX are flatout terrible at critting, each pellet is a different (1 damage) crit, truly making them have no point.
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>>127782094
Each hit has a chance of doing multiplied damage to internal structure, I believe, but its small enough that it is usually not worth the trouble unless the mech's quirks makes it vomit out shotgun shells like CN9-D.
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>>127782094
>This is also why LBX are flatout terrible at critting, each pellet is a different (1 damage) crit, truly making them have no point.
The ONLY exception to that is the Centurion D, which basically has an AA-12 which only gets better with modules, and the reduced spread actually makes it possible to blast specific components. You can snap off three shots in the time it'd take a standard AC/10 to cycle, and kill absolutely everything in an exposed segment, if not destroy it completely.
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>>127762839
Is the IIC Hunchback a good option for LRM? Or are C-LRMs not any better than IS?
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>>127784186
The IIC is really good with SRMs.
Sure, you could stuff the damn thing with LRM15s, and be useless to everyone when the fight closes in, and everyone has radar derp and cover... but why do that when you can have 500 damage multi kill games and watch your side torsos fall like the twin towers?
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>>127784186
I've tried the IICs, and honestly you're wasting space stuffing LRM15 into it.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=369&l=31996f9b56799924a249f13e776c9b020bab7bef

You're great at long range, but that's about it. You'll get wasted the moment anything fast comes within range.

The IIC hunchback variants apart from the HBK-IIC-C are crap. All torso mounted weapons, with either too little space, or too heavy weapons to bring properly efficient firepower. The HBK-IIC-C on the other hand can do shit thanks to it's arm lasers, able to track enemy targets and shoot upwards at UAVs or downwards from a ledge.


...Man I wish PGI weren't the retarded canadian cuckolds they are and gave everyone who bought the pack the 4th variants.
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>>127785323

Grab deal sooner.
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how long do the mech sales last?
i want to get myself a Timberwolf now that they are down to 9~ million
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>>127787645
11th
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>>127787645
Countdown timer right on the mechs that are on sale in the store, just for future reference.
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>>127787645
>mfw
>1. already have angry kittens
>2. already have blunderbolts
>3. dropped Hunchie when I first returned to the game out of beta for my precious Centurion
>4. not interested in laser sniper birds
>5. not interested in crusty old crab
>6. only mildly interested in arctic cheaptah
>7. trying to avoid metacrow until verdict on resized Nova is out
>8. balking at still-obese pricetag of tire poofs even though I can afford two of them immediately
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>>127756568
>trying to ruse potential hires into thinking they can use Unreal engine in MWO.

Minimally viable recruitment.
>>
WOW
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anybody wanna like, play robots or something?
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>>127796343
no
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>>127797297
how is that mumble ban treating you shitterdog?
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>>127797567
Why'd that shitter get banned now?
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>>127798274
because he is an autistic shitter maybe?
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>some cuntbag in a light mech poking my legs
>continues to do so during fights vs enemy mechs
>its clear for a while
>shoots my legs again
>AC:20 to his face
>crits
>he dead
>cries in chat

fuck i hate these cunts.
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>>127800141
I hate my team
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What is really worth it in this sale? definitely gonna get a stormcrow, but would that ecm raven be a good idea If i don't run many lights? I like assaults, Are king crabs worth it?
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>>127803004
hellbringer is infinitely more fun in my opinion than raybands
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>>127803004
It's worth having a full drop deck of either IS or Clan 'mechs if you ever want to play CW with KONG or GONK when they're doing that, so you should go one way or another. If you already have a lot of IS 'mechs but need some lights to even out your tonnage then get the Ravens. Otherwise if you want to join GONK and get Clan 'mechs get the Hellbringer.
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>>127806912
I have enough mechs to fill either an IS or clan deck but I don't like cw and am in a unit, also the Hellbringer isn't on sale.
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>>127801280
I hate myself.
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why is SC kong so gay
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>>127814458
The fun members of kong all stayed in the MWO sect. The ones that take themselves seriously moved on to SC.
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So, should I be taking TAG and BAP with LRMs?
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>>127755736

You can actually pull a ton of ammo off that for another heat sink, accidentally put nine in.

I usually suggest 4 tons per LRM 15 if you're gonna be boating.

As for asymmetric mounting, it gives you the opportunity to pick a side to shield with, if possible. This can be nice for a lurmboat (or anyone), as if you run the bays dry, you can close and use your secondaries while the now-empty launchers take the brunt of attacks.
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>>127761127

Lurmboating is relying on your opponent to screw up (or positioning to take advantage of said screw-ups) more than your skill directly turning into "smash opponent".

Honestly, start at range so you can see how things work from a distance, then work yourself into a perverse lust for brawling as you understand positioning.
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>>127824242
Well, I'm thinking about the HBK-4J and playing it a bit aggressive with it's med lasers and using the LRMs to take advantage of guys out of position.
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>>127827950
That is about the normal way you use LRM mechs, yes. Never ignore your backup weapons, especially when you have plenty of unused heat capacity.
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>>127818443
you shouldn't be bringing lrms

if you're gonna do it anyway, bring TAG and artemis, BAP doesn't really do shit
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>>127816757

>fun members of kong
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>>127838694
When it's active.
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>>127839228
that IS active
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Alright. I'm brand fucking new and I just bought a King Crab with my cadet bonus because it LOOKS COOL.
What's the best build for it? I went 000B because I'm retarded, but I am enjoying the dual AC20 of the stock build.
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>>127843846
http://metamechs.com/mwo-guides/is-master-guides/king-crab/

Read this. He's mostly accurate about it.

Also if you haven't, you should play through the tutorial, and then read the new player's guide in OP.
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>>127844068
Played the Tutorial (isn't it forced?)
Didn't read the new player guide but my second match in a trial light was a 200k game (which I'm led to believe is upper end for a new player)
Then after I bought a King Crab I learned I had a trial one I could have played from the beginning.
Suffering.
>>
>>127838694
>only fun one in that room is Shoebox
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>>127844658
>isn't it forced?

I don't know anything about the new player experience, I started back in 2012.

Don't stress about having bought it. King crab is a cool guy. As long as you aren't abandoned by your team you'll have fun and make money.
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>>127845019
I figured there'd be some stigma about buying an ASSAULT mech as your first mech and a whole bunch of "Dude go play a Medium and learn the game"
I've been having some fun in it, ended up brawling a guy in the city and just ruining him with AC-20 shots. RIP his Assault mech, I guess.
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>>127845768
People recommend meds and heavies because they're new player friendly in the sense that they are reasonably cheap to outfit, and that if you make a mistake and find yourself in the wrong place you can run away, reposition, and survive.

As a noob in an assault if you fuck up you'll just be overwhelmed and die.

That said, in all cases you can make mistakes and survive because the other noobs might not properly capitalize on your mistakes in the first place.
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>>127846507
This is my second battle in a King Crab. Some guy said "Wow dude, you are a killing MACHINE" at the end of battle and I think he was complimenting me, feels incredible to have people recognize you doing well especially when it was your fourth overall battle and 2nd King Crab. Was critical towards the end of the battle and down to just my Large Laser to score the last kill of the fight.
Yeah, I think I'm hooked.
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>>127847438
You're doing just fine anon.
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>>127847438
Glad it's working out for you!
>>
ihatemyteam
>>
Newfag here. What do I do after tutorial? Already got my ass whipped when using one of those trial mechs.

Inb4 uninstall
They told me the same at /wfg/
1 and half years ago
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>>127853734
Read the new player's guide if you're still having issues.
>>
>>127853734
There are several different trail mechs. Try each of them out and see what works best for you. When you find a groove get your 25 cadet bonuses and buy your own mech and outfit it. Then just play and have fun.
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>>127847438
Forever doomed to do 1 team damage every battle.
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>>127856645
it's from running into someone. Happens every time because they drop you too close to each other
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>>127847438
Do new players go into Tier 4 or Tier 5 now? I forget.

>I have no face when 400 damage is considered a killing machine in low tiers
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>>127856909
Tier 5, but I skyrocketed up to T4 pretty quickly.
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>>127856909
I think they put new players in tier 4 to start. I started playing at launch and it was pretty bad at the time. Quit and came back with the steam players and they had me at the very bottom of tier 5. I've raven'd my way to almost out of 4 and into to 3. It's rough man. i can get 600 damage in my 2x and top the charts on both teams
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>>127854356
>>127856375
I'm interested in stormcrow, i-is it good for a newfag?
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>>127857130
How are you having a hard time getting out of the underhive tiers?
What's your 2X build?
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>>127816757

Welcome to Brandy's Kong.
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>>127857392
oh I'm not having a hard time I'm just saying it's kinda sad how bad some of players can be. I run 3 LL on the 2x. Pretty typical poke and run. occasionally you see someone get in the 1000 range but it isn't often. Usually not because everyone tries to missile boat or they just run the trails
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>>127857392
Clearly his build is not the problem if he can consistently top the scoreboards. Might be that he isn't getting too many superstomps where he is so high above the rest that he gets extra tier points.
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>>127857361
stormcrow is one of the best mechs in the game. The amount it can do within that weight is pretty good.
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>>127857361
The problem for new players is that clan mechs are expensive. Expensive to buy and build.
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>>127857940
No they fucking aren't stop this shitty meme, IS are nearly as expensive when you factor in the costs of their upgrades and ideal engines. In fact I would go as far to say they end up being the same price since clan mechs can be stripped for their omnipods and modules and used on the next variant for absolutely no cost, meanwhile you'll be having to switch up your build every variant on a IS mech and whatever costs that come with it.
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>come back from hiatus
>tier 3
>still get pubbie underhive assaults that panic and hide
Let me guess, there's no factoring in your weight class for tier points, so dead weight assaults doing 300 damage are considered 'average'.
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>>127859032
On the plus side you can play fun shitmechs to your hearts content and probably stay tier 3 forever.
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>>127859032
I'm in tier 3 too and it feels like fucking whiplash where it goes from being paired with some of the biggest retards on the planet to seeing some really good players who know exactly what they're doing on both teams.
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>>127859032
Exactly.

>Great job! Atlas LRM boat
>>
>Tiers matter

Stop this meme.
>>
>spend the entire match getting hammered by enemies I can't see who can see me
>finally die, spectate our lights
>they're all hiding and peeking heavy/assault mechs that walk into their view range
nice
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>>127858938
Let's say this is just a meme. Right now is a good time to buy a stormcrow if you are going to do it. They are on sale.
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>>127859032
>not getting double digit assault team mates
>not getting left in the NASCAR as a slow assault
>not getting entire assault lance spawned far left field

Lad it's like you don't even suffer
>>
>finally build up the nerve to get aggressive on my HBK-4J
>using my lasers
>only using LRMs on exposed people or sure shots
>tagging for team
>heavy sneaks up on me
>panic
>something clicks, takes shots, get out while twisting to shield with arms
>another medium chases me
>keep twisting and wreck him
>end game relatively intact

I think I did okay for being a newish pilot. This is fun.
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>>127861389
Had that last match where our most competent assault was a 189dmg KGC and the others were all double digits
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>>127859032
it factors in more than just damage

>>127859274
true enough
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>>127863258
That's why some asshole light runs out as fast as he can hitting r the whole way. Bounces through all the enemies to get the scout bonus and then runs away and never maintains lock. Their rating system isn't perfect for sure.
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>>127863547
You'd rather there was no scouting bonus?
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>>127863791
Actually yeah. The spotting bonus is fine. That's for having a lock on an enemy that's being fired on by lrms. But the scouting bonus is kinda stupid and can be gamed.
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>>127863547
Lights who stick around the brunt of the enemy team by themselves will likely eat goose for their trouble.

>>127863976
It's exactly what it says on the tin.
The scouting bonus is to let your team know where the enemy team is. On some maps like tourmaline, forest colony, and crimson strait this is actually useful.

If you want the spotting bonus to be bigger, just say so.
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>>127864710
I think you are missing the point. I see guys run out and get the bonus but before anyone can see where and what they are looking at they break los and we get nothing out of it. Now if they communicate what they saw that would be a different story. But in pugs your are not likely to get that. They just game the system for some quick points.
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So why's the KING CRAB the best Assault mech?
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>>127865041
SHOOT TWO NIGGAS AT ONCE
SHOOT ONE NIGGA TWICE
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>>127865041
The King Crab and Mauler are the only IS assaults that can wield dual AC/20's. That makes the King Crab special, that and if you don't want dual AC/20's you can still fit half a dozen ballistics onto it.
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>>127866092
>when you kill TWO lights at once with each of your AC/20s
is there a better feeling in this universe
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Are maulers out for cbills yet? I want to try this out:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=326&l=26cb8e4fc79de742cf149a9b2818d9e4266c777d
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>>127866586
Nah, they just came out for MC.
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Is there a good SRMboat? I want to spam the fuck out of missiles in point blank engagements for shits and giggles.
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Is Haruko dead?
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>>127866849
There's a few mechs you can fit 3-4 SRM6 into and shotgun people
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>>127868076
Quite the opposite.
>>
Boss tellings me I am get bonus from work, he of askings me what I want use bonus on.

So I tell him "I am of wanting to drown capitalist pig in missile in future."

Boss has bought Ivanovich pack of archer, Ivanovich not surings how to feel about this.
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Highlander IIC's are way too fucking squishy. This is ridiculous.
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>>127868510

Is she still living a lonely virginial existence?
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>>127869492
If that's you Spectre202 (or is it Specter202), then you must realize that Highland IICs are meme mechs that are worse than the originals.

Also, was cool to laser you to death in my Banshee but my team was more retarded overall so we still lost anyways.
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>tfw no new mechwarrior single player game
>tfw you will never play a game like Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries where you and your crew go around doing merc work with giant robots
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Is Alex ded?
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>>127861791
HAHAHAHA

best meme is double digit meme
>>
hello?
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>>127885201

No, he's played 2100 some hours of DoTA 2.
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What timberwolf do I get
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>>127890645
For maximum variety? TBR-PRIME, TBR-A, TBR-S.

For maximum meta? TBR-A, -C, -D.
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>>127895459

>those jets.
>those flamers that do something.
>those nimble mechs.
>those effects.
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>>127896850
>tfw we all could be playing MW:LL right now
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>>127898946

too bad mw:ll has super boring and clunky mech combat
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>>127899273
too bad MWO has super boring gamemodes and clunky maps
>>
Super heavies when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=822Nq5ugStE
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>>127900937

yeah because control points and giant expanses of flat ground are the epi tome of game design.
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>>127902597
Yeah because caprure the oilrig on king of the hill style maps is the true epitome of game design.
MW:ll gamemodes and the scale of conflict is far better than MWO. Maps suck in both more or less.
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>ac20
>200mm autocannon
>same size used on artillery cannons
>has a range of 270m

>gauss rifle is a rifle that magnetically propels projectiles
>has a range of 660m

>mfw a modern day m107 outranges all of their weapons despite being 1000 years ahead of us

How do they explain this?
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>>127866849
Mad dog is best srm boat
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>>127905340
>Greek fire was uber napalm
>We have no idea how to make it today

How do they explain this?
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>>127905621
We have things a thousand times worse.
>>
Hey /gerg/, is the Artemis exploit where it affects the lock on time of Streaks still present in the game? I'm currently on the fence on buying it for a certain mystery mech that I'm sure you can guess.
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>>127905745
>Battletech has space battleships

Sounds like a thousand times worse than m107s.

CASE CLOSED
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>>127905340
The game designers wanted to put a bigger emphasis on movement, so they made weapon ranges ludicrously short, to give mechs more room to move around in before coming under fire.

It makes sense from a game design perspective, but from a lore standpoint its just silly.
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>>127905340
Compressed ranges for tabletop gaming. AC20s are a general class of anything that can do 20 points of damage in 10 seconds; cannonball launchers and inaccurate rapid fire cannons and everything in between qualifies. The accuracy of weapons also generally takes into account the abstracted evasive movement and use of (minor) cover by enemy units, even if they haven't moved.

The humble medium laser has an effective range of 3 kilometers when mounted on an aerospace fighter instead of a mech on the ground. That should tell you all you need to know about Battletech's commitment to gameplay over autism.
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>>127905749
yes
>>
Free premium time for signing up to a newsletter (I mean, I'm sure your address won't be sold to Chinese hackers, right?)
https://mwomercs.com/rewards
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can xp earned on one mech be applied to all its variants, or do we have to grind for basics on each one?
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>>127909120
Gotta grind each one

Don't spend GXP on anything but pilot skills
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>>127905838
It is something that constantly nags at me though too.
I think really it's less of a limitation of the game, and more how lame it would be if Mechwarrior video game combat was just long range artillery slug fests. I'd rather "brawl" it out at close range than shoot at tiny dots in the distance with my self propelled mega humanoid howitzer, and occasionally have laser eye surgery preformed on me by brief flashes of light from two miles away.
We could "logically" justify all these ranges away with something the MWO community has complained a lot about, the short stubby barrels that most of these tree shooting canons have, but that's really grasping at straws there.
I'm not familiar with the table top game, but is there even lore set ranges on all of these weapons? Like, in actual meters or yards, and not just "short, medium, long" and some arbitrary associated number..
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>>127909324
ye that's what I've been doing. Sucks though, it'll take forever to get to the better mech tech stuff since I have to buy and outfit 2 more fucking mechs of the same style just to get the variant I like better stats
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>>127909531
Each hex on the tabletop is 30 meters across. The range brackets you listed are generally used to refer to the accuracy of the weapons and their to-hit penalties.
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>>127906263
>>127910349
That seems all kinds of fucked. BT tabletop sounds like a really annoying game to play.
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>>127910576
...Well, it is no loss to franchise. You don't seem to be a very bright person to begin with, given that you seem to have trouble grasping simple multiplication (which isn't even a relevant to playing the game).
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wew lad
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>>127912059
Is this banked premium time or will it inject the moment you log in?
>>
Hello?
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>>127918112
hello?
>>
>lrm boat king crab with two lpl
these people need to be gassed jesus christ
>>
>>127905340
Because the game started out on a tabletop and tables were physically limited in how large they are, ranges of weapons had to be far lower than what you imagine they should be.

While they could increase (even double) the ranges of everything in the game and nothing particularly bad would happen, do you really want realistic weapon ranges so some shitty lights you can barely see laser you to death from across the map on alpine or forest colony?
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>>127919482
Ballistics are still pretty retarded. Instead of range and damage being inverse, they should just be balanced by crits, tonnage, ammo, and heat.
>>
>>127918624

its almost as if people are bored of doing the same shit over and over and want to try something new.
>>
>>127921856
KGC-010 when?
>>
Right, so I just stumbled across this general while searching /vg/ for autism. The game looks cool. How does it play? How is the robot building? Will it work on a toaster? I have a lot of questions.
>>
>>127905340
They basically handwave the short tabletop ranges as a combination of technological deterioration from the Succession Wars combined with the 31st century battlefield having so much electromagnetic interference from countermeasures and jamming that all targeting systems suck that much to limit the weapons to those effective ranges.
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>>127910576
The tabletop is essentially chess with weapons and armor management.
>>
>>127922701
It's surprisingly fun to run around and shoot robots.

Robot customization is pretty significant.

It will work on a toaster.

Read the new player's guide.
>>
>>127922701
>autism
you're in the right place
>>
>>127919745
Yes. What the fuck were they thinking.
>>
Whats the best build for the HBK-4SP?
>>
>>127832429

This. I'm perfectly happy to burn a few laser pulses into a target when I'm at effective range for the secondaries, especially as that can dig deep enough to turn the general scouring effect of an LRM barrage into internal damage, or turn a gradual bludgeoning from missiles into removing components far faster.
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>>127856909

He pulled three kills out of 400 damage. That's pretty good aiming of those guns considering, and he's burning off a decent number of components.
>>
>>127859032

Tier 3 is the special hell. High enough to get the best pilots on the MM, low enough to get the garbage tier 5's.

Three guesses who you see more of on your team.
>>
>>127865041

Huge amounts of flexible dakka options. KGC's can literally go with anything from hexa AC/2 to twin AC/20 or anything in between, most notably quad AC/5 or UAC/5. Plus a modest number of energy/missile hardpoint options for backup.
>>
>>127869248

It's all going to depend on the quirks, though Archers all have those delicious top-mounted CT energy mounts.

The ECM hero's gonna be interesting. Not many really good missile boats that pack their own, I'm thinking LRM30+3ML/MPL+TAG with ECM running.

The 9-missile-hardpoint one makes me want to try a Streak-18 for the lulz.
>>
>>127902362

First viable prototypes don't show up till the very late 3060's at the end of the Jihad.
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>>127928008
unfortunately you can't fit a xl295

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=22&l=d2198ba6476ea17ccd94906a7fdbd4bb43892d08

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=22&l=db6cd9d2b275064c5cc17756b42ebbea56144c0c

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=22&l=e4755d6748fc5ac83b1fb8c2b6b3ea185a5dc742
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what's the difference exactly between heavies and assaults? heavies tend to be tankier?
>>
>>127932727
light 20-35 tons
medium 40-55
heavy 60-75
assault 80-100
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>>127932727
the higher the tonnage the more internal HP/armour, and the slower you'll go with the same rating engine compared to something lighter
>>
>>127929594
Is Hexa AC/2 a good idea for a King Crab? It sounds interesting, but will it do comparable DPM to dual AC/20s? I love the big alpha, but I don't mind extended brawls if I'm doing more overall damage with the AC/2s.
>>
>>127859032
>>127859380
MM places you with people within 2 tiers of you

tier 3 means you either have to carry tier 5 shitters, or you get to be the t3 shitter in a t1 game
>>
>>127934359
Hexa AC/2 on chain fire is the most fun shit ever. BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM constantly. It's like you're playing Counterstrike.
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>>127932727
>heavies
>tankier than assaults
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>>127881726
>not just replaying MW4: Mercs
https://kat.cr/mechwarrior-quadrology-eng-rus-repack-by-rg-catalyst-t7412385.html
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>>127905749
>>127906305
and it will be until they update the UI to support separate lock on reticiles for streaks and lrms

>implying they'll ever do that
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>>127915408
>implying they'd ever give away banked premium time

>>127912059
>sign up for newsletter
>mark it as spam
>never see another one
>>
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>>127939792
You just missed a 4man kong having fun
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Should I be keeping more than one cheeter for CW later down the road? I just bought my third and want to move to hellbringers next.
>>
>>127942229
no, you'll only ever need one light for CW at most really
>>
>>127942743
thanks mang
>>
>>127858938

>No they fucking aren't stop this shitty meme, IS are nearly as expensive when you factor in the costs of their upgrades and ideal engines.

Clans cost more. Deal with it.

in an IS mech I can easily swap around engines no problem. I can even share a single engines among tons of robutts.

Clan mechs come with an engine that you can remove. And theya re usually huge XL engines, adding a massive amount onto each clan mech. Its retarded, and anybody who defends it is an idiot. MUH LORE!
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>>127946702
bretty close
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>>127946702
99.98%
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>>127946702
swap PS4 and Xbox and it's perfect
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>tfw the EBJ can climb anything
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>>127948928
muh sniper jag
>>
>>127948685
I think they also selected Mad Dog for the PS4 since it has slants on it like the Mad Dog and the Xbone for the Mad Cat since it has a more Blocky look to it. But I could just be seeing comparisons that they didnt do
>>
>>127935890

>takes too goddamn long to kill mechs, individual efforts from the player feel diminished
>AI is incapable of effective long range combat, always ends up moving in close range
>end result is that it's almost impossible to kill mechs at long range and that most battles devolve into dumb clusterfucks of everyone running around in circles in each others' faces and waiting until someone's health gets whittled down enough that they die, the only strategy is overwhelming the enemy with numbers and firepower

MW3 shits on this game, and I actually like MW4's more restrictive hardpoint system.
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>>127949031
complete with advanced zoom
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