/kspg/ Kerbal Space Paradigm General

>>127300869
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KjK0iUIcVY

Dev Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEV7agSLhr0

/kspg/'s (outdated) modlist and FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/vrFCBFYk

NEW MODLIST. Old FAQ is still retained above.
http://pastebin.com/vM6CE7YJ

>Game site
http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/

>KSP mods
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/34-add-on-releases/
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/36-add-on-development/
http://kerbalstuff.com/

>Flags
http://imgur.com/a/lIHNS#0

>Party-approved rendezvous and docking tutorials
http://imgur.com/a/S3Qxf
http://i.imgur.com/PBuWyVx.jpg

>Some useful calculators
http://alterbaron.github.io/ksp_aerocalc/
http://ksp.olex.biz/

>Official forum
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/

>Hotkeys for operating your craft that are never mentioned anywhere else.
http://pastebin.com/vLmE1QbY

>Official /kspg/ fan fiction
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10607988/1/Structural-Failure
http://pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if

>List of IRL launches.
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

>View from the ISS:
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/HDEV/

>Race Into Space
http://www.raceintospace.org

>Original BARIS for DOSBox scaling and filters and shit
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/183/Buzz+Aldrins+Race+into+Space.html

BARIS, Orbiter, Space Engine, OpenTTD, Bonnie Tyler, Take On Mars, ULA posting, TRUMP 2016, and planes are also welcome ITT. MAN is not.

This thread is going places

http://strawpoll.me/6382506

https://poal.me/r1p4fu

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I promise to be a benevolent god as I pass into the martyrdom OP has deigned for me.

Remember that the Janitor chooses our threads now and we must elect a steward to fight this corruption.

Reminder that there are at least three people trying to shape a narrative around discrediting me.

Reminder that career is a false paradigm.

Thank you /kspg/, for your recognition that I am more than just another poster. I am a titan-god-king and together we shall BURN SQUADCAST until the heat death of the universe.

Bow before me.

>>127301353
OP here, please post in the old thread until it reaches 750

>>127301515
>posting a new thread 30 posts early
go fuck yourself

>>127301584
>willingly giving MAN the chance to make a thread
go fuck yourself

>>127301250
>>127301515
>posting a thread literally to start another flamewar

First topic I command you discuss: the failure of Maxmaps to complete the circuit.

I took some poetry classes in college (yes, yes) and for awhile I sat there stewing over the fact that these meaningless words didn’t have any logical or scientific value and that it was all shitgetting sucked out of other liberal arts professors’ assholes.

Turns out, I was wrong. Good poetry, formal poetry, follows some very stringent rules and these rules, when followed, create a “self-reinforcing logic” that permeates the entire poem. The “self-reinforcement” i refer to are serendipity between form and content, multiplicitous use of word and phrase meanings, and meter and cadence that match the subject or topic of the poem somehow.

The end result is a work that does not “tell” you its meaning, but slowly “shows” it after thorough reading and re-reading. The meaning is harder to find, but much deeper.

You’re probably wondering why I’m talking about this. I’d like to use the phrase “connecting the circuit” to refer to this self-reinforcing logic behind good poetry — the moment you add in that last idea that refers to the first idea and create a continuum of meaning. I’d argue that the best games are the ones that also take the time to do this.

You’ll see this often referred to as “self-consciousness” or “self-referentiality” of a work, when a movie knows it is a movie or a book knows it is a book. Likewise, a game must know it is a game.

Kerbal DOES have “self-referentiality” but in a way that will make your blood boil. KSP embraces the “so kerbal” attitude in its own code, making references to the kraken, for instance. In this way, the instability of KSP is compared to the instability of billy’s rockets. Unfortunately, this is not true “self-consciousness” and is more of a marketing gimmick. See Artyom’s momentary rant in his devblog for more context.

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>>127301685
delete this

So, when I talk about what the “game” is, I’m referring to the thing people think of when they think of “KSP” — some think of a career grind, others think of a barren sandbox — but at no point does that logic link up and create the “circuit” a good, complete self referential work should contain.

For the record, this is what Max SHOULD have been doing during his time as a producer, and you can see he understood it a little bit, as he worked on things like rep hits when you lose kerbals or admin strategies, but again that’s all within the walled garden of career.

My argument is that it’s time to drop the cognitively disassociative game modes and DO THE HARD WORK Max refused to do and complete the circuit so that KSP can move from a neat proof of concept to an actual “ready for release” final game.

I hope this makes some amount of sense. I know it’s just more fucking words, so I will work on editing it all down to one paragraph today.

Let me know if you guys want to get linked to some poetry — I think the “formalism” movement best summed up what I’m getting at but it was a long time ago.

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>>127301736
I command you to delete that.

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Hullo kspg I made you some webms

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>>127301794
>>127301685
>>127301353
MAN.

I think it's time you step back for a while. You've only managed to sound more and more like a fool, while tilting at windmills. This kind of autistic shitflinging really isn't what /kspg/ needs right now. Just let things settle, take a break, and let /kspg/ sort itself.

Please.

>>127302197
Ah, Lord Snek, you are welcome to a seat in my court. May you have many job offers and gay orgies during my reign.

>>127302261
STOP

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>>127302261
I dont need gay orgies, I just need my qt bf

>>127302360
If OP wants cancer, then cancer he shall receive.

>>127302361
Then may scully meet a nice alternative lesbian snek and they too become entwined in each others love.

>>127302515
cancer =/= kancer

>>127302546
I'm excited to hear the rationale behind that one, anon.

In fact that sounds a little bit like a false paradigm...

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>ITT: pic related

How does one have sex with a celestial body?
I need to know for reasons

>>127300894
>Trailer:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KjK0iUIcVY
>being so big of a shill faggot that you put the official game trailer in the OP
kill yourself

>>127302654
>ywn sleep with dres-chan

>>127302615
Ah yes good times, that was pretty funny when anon realized that would look like the logo if it was flipped.

>>127302654
drill a hole on it

>>127302654
You're going to need a garden trowel, a condom, some quicklime, a cup of water-based lube, and a penis.

>>127302691
Oh shit top kek.

I have no idea how Squad got away with that one.

>>127302761
I'm pretty impressed you got that there in one piece.

How do you find out if a snek is compatible with another snek?

>>127302764
But how is that any different than just rubbing your dick on someone, on some random spot?
>>127302814
I have one, maybe two of those things

>>127302261
>>127302515
>>127302613
>>127302756
>>127302867
See
>>127302248

>>127302897
>I have one, maybe two of those things.
Which two? Perhaps we can improvise, anon.

>>127303024
A penis and maybe a trowel somewhere

>>127303061
Hmm. Do you possibly have ketchup, vaseline, sandpaper, a couple of plastic bags, and some shirts you don't really care for?

This is so exciting a whole thread dedicated to exploring the depths of how cancerous I can become, wee!

Let's talk about craft organization in the VAB and SPH -- do you guys think they should do templates and variants? Or maybe airframes? What about tagging for the craft files and maybe a better preview system? I'd also love to see badges based on accomplishments a craft has made.

>>127303083
Ah so separate tanks then, got it. Would you buy a qt young one?

>>127303153
I have ketchup, bags, and a light blue shirt with some stains that just won't come out

>>127303172
See
>>127302917

>>127303256
see
>>127303172

>>127303318
MAN. I'm serious. When there are this many voices calling out against you, it's time to step back.

a

>>127303484
That would be very kind of you and im sure he/she would love you very much for it.

>>127303570
>snakes
>love

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>>127303406
It's too late Mirk, we've crossed a threshold now. A shame really, I enjoyed posting here.

Goodbye for now /kspg/, it's time for my yearly absence.

>>127303783
No, not hooj, please no

Is that pic actually in of your mod?

>>127303892
it is

>>127303783
>K5-PG
Nice.

It's been good lad, I'll probably be taking a break too.

>>127303783
Farewell, Hooj.

This is going to be my last post for a while too.

>>127303783
>>127303967

see you tomorrow.

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>>127303406

fuktiga mäjsmäjs?

Wait why are people leaving

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>>127303931
The absolute madman he actually did it

>>127304275
fuckoff Hooj

I never even downloaded the probe parts.

They're tacky.

>>127304407
You're tacky

>>127304040
I was in the middle of writing a post insulting you and telling you to leave, but you're reminding me more and more of when someone I personally know with a mental disorder had an episode. Seriously, you need help. Take some time off from being hated by the entire fucking general and get therapist or go talk to someone instead of making people leave and pissing everyone off. It'll only be worse off for you if you don't.

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>>127304407
>he never released the qt antenna

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>>127304463
Did some of the gold just give up on being as bright? Is that how it went for you too?

>>127304516
you were busy writing a post insulting someone when you remembered they had a mental disorder so you went ahead and made the decision that you should finish your insulting post?

Nice logic there. You must be a real philanthropist.

>>127304641
Personally I always thought his stuff looked too much like playmobil t b h

>>127304775
>implying my post was supposed to be or is even remotely insulting
Further proof that you have mental issues and you need to get your ass off 4chan and get help.

How many threads do I have to scroll backwards through to see what MAN actually did to trigger you all so hard you're willing to leave /kspg/?

>>127304948
a

>>127304990
1

>>127304990
1 or 2

>>127305148
>>127305169
well link me some posts /fuck/, I see a lot of people complaining about him, and that's it.

>>127304990
Report back when you figure it out, I don't know what he did either
All I know is that there was a ton of arguing over the OP and the doc that I scrolled past

>>127305268
Yeah, from what I've seen, it looks like the anons generally agree the OP should say "torrent" because the different context that implies, and then a bunch of spammers show up and drown out all conversation while measuring their hateboners for MAN.

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Space is fun
Shitposting is fun
Ban evasion is fun

>>127305414
Are you even still being deleted?

Has your curse been lifted?

KSPG 2016

KILLIN IT

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>mfw I learned Macey Dean was no longer kill

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>>127305481
Not in the past few days I think, but you van never be too prepared

>in case someone says my sign has no purpose :^)

>>127305392
off youself

>>127305696
I like that you're stashing webms and images here like nuts in a squirrels cheeks

y'know anon... question... how much does it cost to get set up with a lil snek?

>>127305738
seek professional help.

>>127305787
Go take a break MAN, christ.

>>127305876
PARANOIA
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A

>>127305964
Tanks, rats, anything else? how often do you clean her cage? Has she ever escaped?

>>127306031
Once, she did
She immediately went for his bf's dick

>>127306114
Typical homewrecking slut.

>>127306206
How does it feel to get cucked by a snake?
And a female snake, no less

>>127306206
That seems very reasonable. I'm between that and a cat right now.

>>127305876
How about you guys chill the fuck out and let the adults shitpost? It's bad enough you showed up two threads ago and started tone policing.

>>127306378
Why do you want a cat?

Do you want the one inch wonder?

>>127306475
I'm interested in finding something that will love me back.

>>127303997
You haven't been pulling your weight anyway t b h

>>127306512
If that's the case, then why are you even considering a snake?
Whatever part of the brain handles emotion, snakes probably don't even have it

>>127306529
Do they blush?

>>127306683
Blushing is a purely human thing
And so is crying
Furry porn and those ASPCA commercials lied to you

>>127307169
Or maybe you're just being abusive

>>127307213
I'm not snek, anon.

>they're targeting regulars one by one

>>127307554
nah I bet its connected to her jaw or digestive system or something. I think you give her a great environment.

I did just think of another super qt animal I might like to get though...

>>127307687
A burd?

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Goodnight kspg

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>>127307825
Or a leggy qt?

Imma stop posting on kspg.

see ya

>>127307998
We will soldier on without you.

>>127308040
I don't know, losing three people in one day can't be good for this place

Though he probably isn't entirely serious anyway, he didn't specify how long he'll stop posting

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A Ysalamir!

>>127308156
people say lots of things anon. /kspg/ will be just fine. or it'll die and then we can reanimate its dead corpse without 24/7 tone policing, forced thread deletions and unending vote manipulation.

>>127308176
Cute!

>>127308267
I don't know
Having seen a bunch of people in a general claim to leave and having said general die shortly afterwards makes me worry about this place
This general is in a state where it's alive only because around 10 or so regulars don't want to leave, occasionally making posts that spawn replies that create activity
Losing just 3 of those people would have drastic consequences, due to the drop in initial posts having a butterfly effect on the number of replies and, consequently, overall activity

>>127307915
>>>/trash/

>>127308514
the legend goes one doesn't leave this place, they just minimize the window.

chobit still has it open

so does skunky

>>127308617
You say that you can never leave, but that's what damn near all boards and generals on this site say
Probably most of Reddit, too

>>127308721
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Maybe things will settle down and constructive discussion can start again. Wouldn't that be nice?

>>127309280
I don't know
We've weathered worse storms before, sure, but we've never really had this many people claim to leave

>>127309358
Tomorrow will be a new day. The thread will either be: back to normal, ded, or filled with shillanthropy.

Any of those sound fine by me. Either a chance to study the enemy or a break from the constant harrassment, or, y'know, more shitposting.

>>127309593
I mean, I know I'm probably worrying too much, but I can't really help it, since I've seen this happen before, and god knows I don't want to see it happen here

2016 represents a chance for /kspg/ to be different.

Not radically different. Not tone policed (ahem), but instead a kinder, more reactive, more participatory /kspg/, both in the community-at-large and at home.

Not everyone will want this. Some will lose their shit when I post this, and some might agree but not say anything. I don't care about people agreeing with me, but I hope that as we kick off this new year we can both have the compassion to understand and allow many viewpoints while at the same time standing strong when a consensus begins to emerge.

Balancing that is hard, maybe impossible. But it's a noble goal to strive for. And I think it's something /kspg/ is capable of.

So thanks boys, and I hope the future holds much in store for this little general.

KSPG 2016

and career is a false paradigm

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>>127309805
>>127309917
You're the reason I'm worried about this general dying in the first place
You made two, possibly three anons leave
Fuck off

>>127309936
My world is fire and blood. Once, I was an anon. A road warrior searching for a righteous cause. As the world fell, each of us in our own way was broken. It was hard to know who was more crazy... me... or everyone else.

What the fuck is happening? Can someone give me a tldr version of his posts? I really don't feel like reading autism.

>>127310007
Killing /kspg/ isn't a righteous cause you fucking mongoloid

>>127310241
some people were getting very triggered by me so I decided to push it past the point of absurdity, then I got drunk off my power and assumed my rightful place as titan-god-king of /kspg/, which I now rule with an not only an iron fist, but an outstretched palm.

>>127310525
Take your meds

>>127310552
bring me stronger potions

>>127310592
you cant handle my potions. my potions are too strong for you. you should go to a salesman who sells weaker potions.

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>>127310525
So I was right.

>>127310860
I also started /simant general/ earlier when i was trying to push /kspg/ off the catalog so we also now have a protectorate.
>>127294625

Send a detachment of shitposters there to shore up the topics immediately.

Maybe KSPG should have tried being nicer to MAN...

>>127311994
He isn't the first person we've made lose their mind

>>127312180
Would you believe I started "the janitor loses its mind"?

Pretty proud of that one.

>>127312207
I'm also the one who got the ban plea accepted that lead to the glorious period from august - november with no deletions or bans.

I figure if you guys are gonna go all out, I might as do so too.

And of course there's "getting maxmaps fired" which some will contest but between the press release the imgur album and my interaction on reddit with kasper that directly preceeded max's rushed announcement, I feel pretty confident about that one.

Let's see what else...

>>127312384
I don't know if you've noticed, but it's 5 AM on best coast
There's barely anyone here to see you reply to your own posts

>>127312474
I did notice. It's 5am here in NYC too. My qt neighbor is throwing a party so I'm up and thinking about things.

I'm also just salivating over how much OP and the rest of his brigade is regretting their choices right now.

>>127312474
You mean 2 AM right?

>>127313350
The fuck you trying to say m80

>>127312628
STAY MAD
T
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Y

M
A
D

>>127313659
Don't have to be mad when I'm famous
>>127300869

^^

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>>127313659
Would you say he's a MAD MAN?

>>127312628
OP here, if my choice was to get your riled up and laugh at your childish behavior, then I don't think it'd made sense to regret my decision

>>127313825
>Posting in the God-King's thread

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I slept for 8 hours just to see MAN has taken over the thread. WTF /kspg/.

>>127313810
An absolute MAD MAN

>>127314618
>taken over
I don't see how

>it's 3 AM which means comedy central will be running paid programming until 6
>cartoon network east just changed from adult swim to regular cartoon network shows
>cartoon network west airing anime for 30 more min

>"flat and sexy abs!" it is

>>127314929
You just reminded me I have to finish watching the last season of Suits

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DED
E
D

i'm too lazy to read the above drama and i just woke up. has MAN finally fucked off now that literally every single person in the thread has denounced his personal army bullshit?

i don't think he's actually capable of leaving but one can hope

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>mfw MAN won't leave

>>127317302
Nah..he went full omnipotence complex now.
He is trying to hide the fact that he is mad as fuck by playing the "hurr you are just mad at me and I am winning because you all talk about me and I'm going to stay here" card.
This thread and probably a bunch to come will be his playground.

Just do your best to filter his trip and ignore his anon posts, he will leave eventually

Even Mirk, which was kinda supporting his cause until now, told him to fuck off, so he basically lost his only friend.

Let this little recap be enough for you, now let's just ignore the issue and talk about something else

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>>127317583
Dude pls, don't mention him

Here, have some engine gore to distract you

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'Sup guys
Your fellow Italian anon here to give you a preview of what I'm going to cook tomorrow (probably)

+1 rep to whoever guesses what it is.

Hint: it's a typical French product and it comes from animals

>>127318919
some kind of kidney

>>127318919
that's not a burger, get out of here with your gross euro food

>>127319046
Close, but no.

Additional hint: it is a part of an animal, but it receives a special treatment while the animal is alive that gives it a special name. This name is part of a very very old culinary tradition in France.

So, even if you guessed correctly and it was a kidney, you should guess the real name, since it's not a normal kidney.

>>127319075
You can make burgers with this, I guess.

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>hmmm, i really used to like that space game
>what was it called?
>oh yeah, kerbal space program
>i should go check out the general again, maybe get back into it

And that was how I found myself in the middle of autism the likes of which has only been rivalled by the a/sp/ie.

>>127319626
Welcome back

>>127319474
foie gras
checkmate

>>127320578
Good job m8

+1 rep for you!

For anyone else wondering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras

It's also available in the US so you have no excuses to not try this god tier food

>>127320652
No thanks, tastes like shit

>>127320878
Did you try it? Was it the actual piece of liver or was it the mousse/cream thing that you spread on bread?
Because it tastes nothing like any other liver, even normal duck liver tastes different than this.

Oh well..to each their own I guess.

>>127320993
Like most french cuisine it's built up a lot for what it actually is. It may look fancy and it may have taken a long time to prepare but that doesn't make it taste good.
European cuisine is mostly based on what was commonly available over the centuries, but now that we live in the 21st century we have the ability to raise any kind of livestock anywhere in the world which means we don't have to resort to eating forcefed duck liver covered in cream to feel like we're eating high quality food.

Prime rib takes an hour to cook and all you gotta do is cover it in rock salt, it comes from cattle which is abundant and cheap and it tastes amazing. And you don't gotta smear garbage all over it either.

>>83849523
>being this mad about replying to old posts

>>127321948
Foie gras (the "whole" kind, not the mixed, nor the cream) is literally just a slice of fatty liver cooked on low heat for like 5 minutes and served with nothing else. No sauces, no side dishes, nothing.
It's the exact opposite of something complex or that takes a long time to make.

Of course, being an expensive thing and being commonly used in a luxury context, it is included is a huge selection of overly complex and expensive recipes, but that is not what I'm going to do. I like it simple.
If I wanted to cover it in sauces I would have gotten a cheap liver or any other low grade meat and called it a day.

You can eat ribs and be sure you ate some of the most amazing meat you can get your hands on, but this is another thing.
You can't find any other liver that tastes like this, the very force feeding thing is what makes it taste like that.

I don't like it because it is rare or expensive, I like it for what it tastes like and there is nothing that tastes like Foie gras that is not Foie gras, unfortunately (for my wallet)

>>127322272
>replying to 1 year and 76 day old posts

What happened to stairwell simulator?

>>127325254
MAN made b9 stop developing it

>>127325746
Are we going through a blowback phase?
Is 'MAN did everything wrong' a meme now?
t. don't follow kspg meme drama

odds jack off
evens play ksp

>>127325891
>t.

What does it mean? I see it everywhere.
Is it supposed to say "signed"? Why the T?

>>127327274
finnish meme, it stands for some word that translates to "regards"

CAN'T

>>127327397
Oh ok

I propose we change to Google Docs instead of the meme site you guys are writing on.

>>127329246
Google is part of the evil ZOG janitor gonsbiracy that wants to undermine the remedialist effort, didn't you know?

>>127329246
That site is fine as long as there is no more than one person editing it, which is not really a problem considering the low traffic it gets.

I remember someone opposed Google docs for privacy reasons.
Not that I care about that, but the other site worked fine for me so far

>>127329632
>>127329527
The site lags for me a lot, and sends me back to the start or somewhere else randomly on there. The privacy thing isn't a that big deal, tbqh senpai.

>>127329783
Opera 12 user?

>>127329909
Chromium.

>>127329783
It has a strange bug with the cursor.
Basically if you want to, say, highlight something or doing anything that requires a click+drag with the mouse, it doesn't move the cursor from where it spawned or where you left it last time.
So, let's say you want to click+drag a sentence and delete it with the keyboard, you will see the sentence highlighted, but once you press the button it will start deleting from where you left the cursor, which will make your screen jump to where the action is actually happening and the highlighted stuff will stay there untouched.
I found that clicking once where the stuff I want to edit is, thus bringing the cursor over there, solves the problem


That, or someone else is editing the doc at the same time, which causes all sorts of weird screen jumps

I haven't experienced any other problem to be honest, if I see someone is writing, I just wait for him to finish.

On mobile is broken as hell tho, nothing works on that

>>127330219
>Mememium

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>enter /kspg/
>max/MAN controversy
>hullo
>a
>t.
>DED
>meme everywhere

>>127330664
Do just like always, but with different memes and intestine wars

>>127330761
So*

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V89AJaasnm8
When yo nig a plane but he think he be a UFO

Is 4chan banned in iran

>>127331658
internet is banned in iran
allahu akbar

Are there any generals more shitposty than this one?

>>127332808
considering this one's been reduced to meta-arguments and ontopic developer discussion like every other general, yes.

back in the day we were shitpost prime though.

>>127332808
Talking about games is boring

>>127332808
WTG, MEG, (but I think it died recently.), any esports, gsg, plenty of them really.
Kspg was top-tier in 2012-2013 but now it's burned out and the memes moved on and became shittier and even more cancerous and kspg hasn't been keeping up since ~Ńovember 2013.

We've gone beyond full autismo, what the fuck happened?

>>127333759
a combination of the doc and man imo. the doc introduced a new reason for bullshit bureaucratic arguments, and man lost his fucking mind after max left and he lost his purpose.

Is 1.1 even fucking out yet?
It's been like 6 god damn months.

>>127334580
no

Early access a shit.

Squad a shit

>>127333979
Shit, well, that makes sense.

>>127334686

What are they waiting for, the console version to come out?

>>127335642
They're waiting for their tacos to finish

Doc a shit

>moving across the country tomorrow
>new career/job starting at the end of the week

I still have no fucking clue what I'm doing.

>>127337154
To where?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Boeing_707#1960s
>1969
>December 1: Pan Am Flight 812, a 707-321 (N892PA) crashed at takeoff from Sydney, Australia following a bird strike in the #2 engine and collapse of the nose gear. No fatalities. The aircraft was repaired and put back in service two months later. This plane would be destroyed in an accident 41 years later while serving as a tanker (see below).
>click link to flight page
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_812
>Pan Am Flight 812, operated by a Pan American World Airways Boeing 707-321B registered N446PA and named Clipper Climax, was a scheduled international flight from Hong Kong to Sydney, Australia, with an intermediate stop at Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. On April 22, 1974, it crashed into rough mountainous terrain while preparing for a runway 09 approach to Denpasar after a 4-hour 20-minute flight from Hong Kong.
>Fatalities: 107 (all)

what

>>127337154
B-but career is false paradigm.

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>>127337006
They're targeting the regulars one-by-one, I wonder who's next. Engine gore? Maybe Trump 2016, or perhaps Mirk with another global 3.

>>127327747
WAKE

>>127340337
That's right anon, very good. Sandbox and Career have effectively stalled the development of KSP and must be reworked to continue meaningful innovation.

Tonight I'll be eating another masterpiece of Italian cuisine

take away pizza

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I've decided to let you flounder for an unspecified amount of time, feel the pain of the world these shills have created for you.

The janitor and the two other Squad apologists here only add negative shit while adding no soul, personality or value to the thread. They are deleting threads, forcing us to use revised versions without the word "torrent" and manipulating polls to accomplish their petty, squad-aligned objectives like destroying meaningful development discussion in /kspg/.

There is a hole in your mind, /kspg/. Fill it with the love you once felt for your fellow anons.

>>127340459
TRUMP 2016

>>127338889
>N446PA
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19740422-0


>N892PA
http://aviation-safety.net/database/dblist.php?Year=1969&lang=&page=4

no registry

http://aviation-safety.net/database/operator/airline.php?var=4922

no registry


http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-707i/United%20States/panam/n892pa.html

http://www.aussieairliners.org/scrapbook/n892pa/n892pa.html

>>127341827
>manipulating polls to accomplish their petty, squad-aligned objectives
>manipulating polls

http://strawpoll.me/6436664/
http://strawpoll.me/6436664/
http://strawpoll.me/6436664/

>>127342184
well it's confirmed, statistically 100% of the thread wants man to fuck off. time for him to go.

>>127341827

Talking about people who manipulate reality
>>127279037
>>127279037
>>127279037

Goodbye my friend, you won't be missed

>>127341827
It's ok, we will try to survive without your help.
It will be hard, I know, but kspg went through worse shit than this and we are still here.
See you next time, no hard feelings ok?

fuck it, I'm leaving too

>>127341827
>I've decided to let you flounder for an unspecified amount of time

See you in a few hours then

>>127341827

wew lad

It all returns to nothing

>No one has an actual argument
>Just more shit to fling

MAN cared about organizing /kspg/'s feedback into a representative form for a new producer who asked for it. Who are all you people? What did MAN do to you personally to deserve this hatred? You're all just hopping on the most pathetic bandwagon I've ever seen, allowing yourself to be c u c k ed this hard by tripcode. Good god does MAN wins my vote, you've effectively allowed him to take over with your nonstop whining and goalpost moving.

Long live MAN

Schizophrenia is a hell of a drug.

>>127342184
>despite overwhelming evidence suggesting otherwise, there are people ITT that believe that people willingly rig strawpolls to state something against the general's consensus

>>127344212
shitty bait

>>127344212
Here's your (You)

Hey guys, every time MAN posts, I pretend I'm a new person and say I'm leaving so that he thinks another person is leaving him because he cared about trying to make KSP better and look what happened to him as a result.

We should all just go back to shitposting and delete the doc. I'm on it now. I'll be sure to get the pastebin too.

>still not a single hint of what man actually did wrong

>>127345089
>still not a hint of what he did right

>>127345290
Even snek too? <3

>>127345290
Anyone but catfucker.
There are limits to love.
I'll always love plenfag though.

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>>127345672
I love you snek!

>>127345251
he organized the group, he got through to Doctor turkey, he helped construct some of the doc and he even sent scatterer-san $25 just to say happy new year.

and he's thinking about getting a Snake

>>127346057
Prove it

I came.

>oh neat a KSP general I wonder what kind of discus-
>oh

Thanks for the daily dose of autism, gents

>>127346134
Which one? I think all the regulars know this to be true. Welcome newfriend.

What is a character assassination without a character?

>>127346396
>"man did a lot of stuff"
>asked for proof
>"b-but it's common knowledge! You are a newfag!!!"

Lol stay mad

>>127346439
Can't the rat bite its way out of there during transport?

>>127341827
Another max's sockpuppet ?

>>127346719
No proof no credit

>>127346615
if you don't know why are you so confident you're right? He has /kspg/ on the precipice of becoming a meaningful outlet for criticism again. What did he do to you? kill your dog?

>>127346263
lewd.

>>127346954
Oh, okay. I always thought you were mail-ordering those rats, since they seemed to come in UPS boxes.

>>127346801
from now on if MAN wants to make such claims he must trip for every. single. post.

You hear me MAN? put your name on EVERYTHING

shitposters
United

will never be defeated

>>127346809
I know for an absolute fact he was arrested once for public indecence and he currently steals used panties. And he killed my neighbours dog.

But I'm not going to bother proving all this stuff because, you know, it's common knowledge.

and now I wait for you to take this seriously and miss the point completely

>>127337237
Charlotte

>>127347734
>showing up to a general on 4chan and demanding proof about their culture
okay Woodward and Bernstein

>>127348551
>MAN
>culture

You fucking wish

>>127349182
career is a false paradigm

>>127349535
You're mum is a revisionist

>>127347203
>that turd coming out of the rat's ass

are them killed by the bite or by the crushing? and if so, it's just asphyxiation or snek can manage to actually break their ribs and bones?
also, does he try to bite them in the head/throat or any place is good?

it is strangely entertertaining to watch

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Rate my wing kspg

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I'm at the New York historical society, have some culture /kspg/

maybe you'll catch a reflection in the glass

expect to pivot your head a lot

let me know if you need me to trip

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delete this

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>>127353073
>Fortran

>>127352259
Show yourself faggot, unless you're really that insecure about your appearance

>>127353302
i'd rather program in fortran than js tbqhf

>>127353315
on all levels except physical, I am anon

>>127353658
Dooo iiiit

>>127351530
no sluts
2/10

>>127342978

Well..looks like that unspecified amount of time is already over
>>127352259

>>127353926
he's a bigger attention whore than the /v/ tripfags were at their prime. i don't get how that's even possible.

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get wrecked haters

>>127345772
I'm already taken, anyway
>>127345946
I never abused my cat in the first place, and I'm rather comfortable with my sexuality, attraction to cats and all

For anyone interested in the doc, don't forget to vote here.
http://strawpoll.me/6423893


I suggested last thread to skip this Monday as a start for the deletion schedule and to delay it to the next one, whatever the final choice may turn out to be.
We already got rid of a lot of yellow stuff so there is really no need to rush things for now.

>>127356406
Who the fuck cares
Turkey isn't going to listen to a god damn thing we say anyway, no matter how organized and well-structured
We're just 10-15 or so autists on 4chan, nothing will change

>>127356727
I am skeptical about this too, but it's not like there is anything to lose by trying.

If they listen to even a small part of that, we win. If it goes straight for the trash bin, then at least we will have one more reason to funnel our anger at squad.

I want to give this guy the benefit if the doubt, he didn't do anything wrong yet so there is really no reason not to try

>satch drunk
>ask her about why shes such a sociopath
>she gets really sad

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>>127356727
kspg 2016 anon

go back to the forums with that attitude

we have a private line to Turk

>>127357332
the forums are the only ones that give a shit about this trash dead game.

proper comfy /kspg/ has always had zero squad or ksp discussion

>>127357038
>but it's not like there is anything to lose by trying.
the cohesion and enjoyability of the general is what we're currently losing

>>127357632
Every time I posted about the doc I tried to be as polite and as discreet as possible, but there is a bunch of issues that need to be discussed here anyway.

I don't want to ruin the comfiness and I am not our resident schizo if that is what you are thinking, but this thing is happening and people invested time by writing all that shit so I just want to see it not going to waste

Sorry for the inconvenience

>>127357987
sure it's not your fault, you've been civil. it's just that the presence of the doc has resuscitated the cancerous old squad drama. the sooner you guys ship it off to turkey, regardless of whether he even replies to it, the sooner we can go back to comfy offtopic shitposting.

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>>127357487
>proper comfy /kspg/ has always had zero squad or ksp discussion
obviously newfag

>>127357987
Don't let people bully you into not posting about KSP.

>>127358229
i've literally been here since before /vg/ existed. you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>127358321
Nah I don't give a shit about posting the same old screenshots, I care more about the doc going somewhere and then going back to the usual shitposting

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>>127358332
I'm an oldfag too!

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the janitor loses its mind

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the janitor loses its mind.

>>127344190
i want to hold snek :3

>Mexican and Spanish tourist blocking the door REE
e
e

"Damn I really wanted a nice picture spam from a museum with unrelated text on the side"
- Nobody Ever

>>127362191
"Damn I really don't want a nice picture spam from a museum with unrelated text on the side"
- Literally only (You)

>>127362265
nah i agree with him, man's just looking for any excuse to post right now

>>127362265
Ok Mate

>>127362325
>>127362350
I'm not him you fucking schizos

Also didn't we agree to completely stop talking about him and to just ignore his posts?

>>127362265
Google takes better pictures than you do

>>127362551
I feel like you need these:

(You) (You) (You) (You)

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>>127362008
forgot pic

[Exception] NullR͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏eferenceException: Object reference not s͏et to an in͏stance of an object

>>127362859
Did you do something about it, white boy?

>>127363109
>>127363635
>>127363807
What

>>127364334
[Exception] NullR͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏͏eferenceException: Object reference not s͏et to an in͏stance of an object

>>127364391
Oh ok

>>127363109
>>127363635
>>127363807

Problem?

Fix?

>>127364391
problem?

>>127364391
fix?

a

everytime i load a quicksave my rover clips through the surface and explodes. problem? fix?

>>127364863
a?

>>127356727
I personally don't care about Turkey but enjoy reading feedbacks and argue with my fellow kspergers. Well in general I also think it's cool to rally around a writing project together. It changes from usual shitposting that tends to be boring at the end of the day.

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Guys what happened to bac9 ?

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>>127365497
FUCKOFF MAN /s

>>127358321
How has the game not improved in 5 years? What the shit am I supposed to do with this "resource"? Why do fairings not block air? Why can I only view resource data while focused on the craft? Why does the game still look like ass when there have been graphics mods for years? How can Squad not hire a new person in literally three years except when Max got fired?

Why was .26 called a beta if it contained no optimizations? Why is new content still being added if the game is feature complete? Why can't I use contracts or collect science points in Sandbox? When will I be able to play with reckless abandon and not need to worry about breaking the universe? Why is mod compatibility nearly impossible to tell until you open the save? Why does the game crash upon quitting? How old is Badie? Can badie accomplish anything besides suborbital freefall? Who on earth thought console versions of this game would be a good idae?

How much money has squad made? Where are they keeping it? What percent is funnelled back into development? Is it greater than 5%? Where is bac9, why did he leave, why did Val have her ragdoll set to no gravity? Why do autofairings on fairings look like ass? Why has squad spent two years refining plane parts in a game about space?

How did kerbals come to be? Will the KSC ever have any backstory? Who's giving these contracts? Does squad care enough to answer these questions ever? Even after 1.0?

WHAT DO THE ANOMALIES MEAN?

WHY IS THE KRAKEN IN THE GAME?

Will squad ever release the IP or source code? Will KSP be used to inspire a new generation of kids or will it simply come to be known as the mexican early access sponge that dried up one day?

should we ask for the rest of the convo to be revealed?

>>127366675
Downvoted for the /s tag, as always. I don't know why people keep trying to make that a thing.

EDIT: To explain, either your comment was worded well enough to get the sarcasm across or it wasn't. If it was, you don't need the /s tag. If it wasn't, then you should fix the comment, rather than just adding an /s tag to poorly-worded sarcasm. And if your sarcasm is clear and some people don't get it, that's their problem for not understanding language, it's not your job to spoonfeed them and litter threads with a tedious "/s" after every comment.

>>127366675
cringe

>>127367134
Negative? √
No content? √
Discouraging meaningful discussion? √

I should thrawnpost just to trigger you.

>>127366675
>fuckoff MAN
Not even him... wow. Take your meds faggot.

>>127368286
okay MAN

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>>127368478
Sure.

>>127368649
Everyone can see your vain attempts to improve the game are actually just an attempt to seize power for yourself and control the vast kingdom of /kspg/, who will forever cry MAN MAN MAN!

And then you'll change your legal name to MAN and tell everyone in your life that your name is Maxmaps Adds Nothing and they will quake because they will know that this Maxmaps Adds Nothing already rules a general on 4chan and that he must therefore not be someone to mess with.

At least maxmaps added complacency, your attempts at good natured improvement are not welcome here and I'm the one who knows that DEFINITIVELY

so, please, FUCKOFF MAN

>>127369808
And who would have an interest in making that happen?

>>127370000
Zero quads.

>>127366236
He told the mexicans to fuck off.

That's why they're so butthurt about it.

>>127370412
Full story somewhere ? thread archives ? Was the salary not good ?

>>127370185
Zero is not number.

>>127370565
Full story never released. Look at it hard enough and you can put the pieces together. Maxmaps' spaghettified non-answers, the continued if slowed development of his mods, it's pretty obvious the separation was on his terms.

Most of the sources I just looked for have been "lost" during the forum transition (can't wait for anon to jump on me for that) but there's a version of his devblog somewhere out in the wild that contains a nugget of truth about his opinion of how Squad treats the IP is not positive. There have been multiple works of his that reinforce this notion.

I will at this point note this is all subjective and hearsay and I encourage you to come to your own conclusion based on the available evidence, which is, admittedly, lacking.

EDIT thanks for the upvotes!

EDIT EDIT TL;DR I found the link here it is

http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/ArtyomZuev/20130731/197365/Environment_art_and_modeling_in_Kerbal_Space_Program.php?print=1

>Overall, I'm convinced the obsession with disasters and perception of Kerbals as worthless engineers only caring about explosions is destructive for the game. KSP deserves much more than being a glorified disaster simulator where rockets falling apart and crews being killed is the prime entertainment and the only expected result. The achievements of players who strive to be successful, who create beautiful, well-engineered, reliable designs, should never be devalued, and the opinion that going to space is impossibly hard deserves to be crushed and disproved over and over again. Kerbals are capable engineers and it's up to the player to utilize their technology well.

>This same mindset is harming the game in many other areas as well. The bugs of the physics system aren't there because we thought they would be fun and don't deserve to be defended as some players surprisingly do. The achievements of reaching orbit,

(1/2)

>>127371749
How do you edit your own posts????

>landing on another body or even establishing a permanent base somewhere should not be perceived as something impossibly hard and unreachable for anyone but hardcore players. Everything is possible if you are willing to learn and there is no reason to restrict yourself to playing a disaster simulator with rocket cars or insta-exploding space planes. Justifying that to yourself by creating a certain mental image of Kerbal engineers competency might make the game better for you but I’m striving for a greater Kerbal good.

(2/2)

>>127371921
once you get enough upvotes, anon. That's when you auto-unlock /r/4chan gold.

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>>127371939
>I'm striving for a greater Kerbal good
>a

I am thinking about a little OpenTTD blog, should I, kspg?

>>127373363
I'm predicting banned, but I'll stop posting to give you some good blog space.

>janny killed infant baby /sag/
>>127294625

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ok, it's been a long time
I have no fucking idea what I was doing last time I played.

seems like I'm in for a long and painful session of double checking to see what's happening in this network, what needs to be fixed and what needs to be done next

hold me guys

>>127375375
Man, I really don't think your park needs that much water. It's really going to make building any transport rides and roller coasters more expensive than they need to be.

>>127375539
it's Transport Tycoon, not Rollercoaster Tycoon.
same interface, different game

>>127375654
Joke
(You)

>>127300869
Can anyone help me with installing North Kerbin Dynamics mod? The weapons seem to load in but the explosions don't. They pop like balloons and disappear instead of leaving nuclear mushroom clouds behind.

After extracting it, I have a new folder called "effects" left over, and I can't find where it's supposed to go.

>>127375375
nah..fuck this
I'm not in the mood for an health check of the network.

but since I remember a bunch of anons started playing the game last time I blogged, I'd like to hear from them if they kept on playing or got bored, I might start a new game and use that to make tutorials if anyone needs them, otherwise I'll just fuck off to bed.

this network can wait for when I'll have the patience to spend some time double checking everything

>>127375859
did you read the instruction in the forum thread? did you install all the dependancies, if any?
isn't there an instruction text file inside the zipped folder? have you tried putting the effect folder inside the main mod folder and see what happens?

>>127376117
It opened on a plane with factories and resources. I made some rails between a mill and a city. That was about the most I could figure out.

I'd have no idea how to build an economy with those tools. I did recommend it to a guy who is a real railroad dispatcher though. He probably thinks I am insane.

>>127376491
The main clusterfuck of the game is to understand the logic that handles cargo distribution, that is stupid complex and hard to manage if you have no idea what to expect.
the other thing is railroad signals, which you should really learn to do anything more complex than single point-to-point train lines.

the vanilla game is pretty basic tho, super comfy for a beginner.

I assume you stopped playing so I don't think you need text walls on how to set up a good economy.

>>127377064
they're certainly better than KSP. Maybe I missed it but are there any scenarios you can play with an already functioning economy so you can just learn how it works?

I'll have to reinstall it if we're gonna do this.

>>127376278
There are no instructions. Not in the thread, and not in the zip.

>>127377317
there is a tutorial scenario in the in-game GRF downloader.
I never tried it but it's always been there and nobody bothered making other tutorials so I assume it is a good scenario for a beginner.

Try that, I'll be here for suggestions if you need any

>>127377737
To be honest anon I'm feeling a little down. I'm going to download it a little later. I'm actually forgetting about a few important deadlines I need to deal with, so please excuse me.

Gents, I'm sure you can take it from here. Maybe I can pick up some ottd tricks from future blogs too.

>>127377475
answer to all the other questions I asked

>>127377951
ok, it's cool, I'll be going to bed soon so I guess we'll talk about this another time.

http://wreg.com/2015/11/23/police-baby-dies-in-oven-after-siblings-put-her-in-and-turn-it-on/

>>127378140
No instructions on thread. None in zip. All dependencies worked before download. There's no main mod folder. The zip otherwise has parts, sounds, and plugins folders that just copy into game folder (except effects for some damn reason).

build wall

>>127378795
erect fortification

Is it possible to build wall out of shitposts?

>>127378696
I donwloaded the folder to see what's inside but I don't have the game in this computer to see if it works.
anyway, my zip folder has two folders inside (CAL and North Kerbin Weaponry), I don't see how copying those two directly inside the GameData folder can leave a subfolder out, but again I don't have the game here so I can check.

are you sure the dependancies are all there and updated? looks like this mod needs two other mods.

>you will never go back to your first hours on ksp
>you will never go back to hearing that heavenly music whenever you made it to 70k the first few times
>you will never go back to landing on another planet for the first time

Why does it hurt, brehs

>>127380320
Yeah, I got both mods beforehand.

Is this a SQUUAAAD!! moment? Or a Fucking Toaster moment?

>>127378279
I used to play TTD, then moved to OTTD when they removed the dependency on the original .grfs. I still open it up occasionally, but usually wind up putting it away for a couple of weeks, then loading it up and having no idea what the fuck I was doing last, then starting over again. Despite having played for such a long time, I'm still at a pretty basic level, mostly just setting up individual industry connections, and never building a full economy around connecting and exploiting every industry possible.

We can still talk about it if you like, though. What's your favorite train?

>>127380439
because it is a glib facsimile

Honestly just curious

http://poal.me/gmu37d

>>127302698
bump