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Single Mom Edition

Old >>127182993

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Character Planners, MP Range/Weapon AR Calculator, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans(Base Game & DLC) and Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems/Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer and Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art and Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101, Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info and DLC Guide Scans
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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I like the wheel so far
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xth for POST BLOODY CROW OF CAINHURST ART YOU FAGGOTS
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>>127206374
post moms
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MILKWEED SKIN TONE SLIDERS WHERE?
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UUUH KUS OR SUM SEY KUZM
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Tips on being a great kinfolk? The stats for the parasite don't seem all that great at first glance.
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>>127206498
why the accent?
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What weapons are good with STR scaling gems from BLB?
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>>127206280
Go down the well, there's tons of awesome treasure in there.

>>127206529
IIRC it has a hidden multiplier so it's like twice as strong as it looks.
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>>127206412
So that's why that one anon warned me about sharks. Fucking hell this going to be painful. I really fucking hate the sea
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>sackmen can spawn in CRF Isz
Holy shit, what? 200 hours and I've never, ever seen this happen. Fucker caught me completely off guard.
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>>127206494
I want more squid kid and doll mom art.
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>>127206529
Most of the attacks have 2x multipliers on them, don't use flat arc gems because they're not multiplied

L2 can be parried, don't spam it against people who know what they're doing

R2 hits fucking hard

Dash attack is godtier
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About how long does it take to grind out bolt triangles from Isz Watchers? I've been going for hours now and so help me my character's not the only one gaining insight here.
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>>127206576
Yeah thanks. Now I know what a shark's dick tastes like.
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>>127206564
assuming 50/25
pick is almost as good as a skill build
saw cleaver
axe
ludwigs
steak dinner
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wow, i thought the anon host @ ludwig died so i sat, the hp bar was black-- holy shit
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>>127206483
I wish From would make the level cap a lot lower. Being able to put 99 in everything is rather ridiculous.
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Who

>Australia

here and can tell me where to get Bloodborne + PS4 for cheap?
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>>127206407
Seriously? normally i'm doing 450ish damage at the least in ng+ against Ludwig, i'm doing half that right now
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>>127206697
I always survive that charge with 1 hp

I dont know why
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>>127206494
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>>127206725
I bought mine for $300 from EB secondhand, I'm sure you can also just buy a secondhand BB and buy the DLC online.

PS4 I got had the fucking disc eject shit (I say had, because I THINK I fixed it tonight), so beware of shit like that.
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2close, fucking rape worm
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>>127206724
It would be nice if they just made level 100 the max level.

>>127206697
You get the win?
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>>127206745
i dont know for sure but i believe when 2 summons are present, the damage output of the phantoms go down, correct me if wrong
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>>127206753
and the followup
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>>127206842
I do believe it does, but i was doing 450 with my last host that had 2 buddies
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>>127206828
no, i sat and then got vomited by ludwig at point blank range. it was hilarous.
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>>127206576
>>127206616
Thanks anons.
I'll be the best ayylmao I can be.
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>witch of hemwick in a tiny staircase room with the boss gate lever at the top
Haha no, this chalice is going in the trash.
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>>127206798
you bought it secondhand from JB and the disc eject was broken? How long did you have it for? I would've returned it straight away.
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>>127206924
It should be a fucking webm, because it was so instant
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To make my journey from Ailing Loran to all the FRC goodness a little more bearable, do the winter lanterns in the fishing hamlet drop adept blunt gems?
Pretty much every attack with the beast cutter is blunt.
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>>127206996
>dungeon with an open area
>two witches between start and lever

I don't even try to kill them nowdays.
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>>127206998
After about three weeks it happened, I dealt with it until tonight, cause it would literally just happen right after I put it back in. I think I've fixed it now, if it happens again I'm going to take it back
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>>127207032
is adept blunt blunt damage?

if yes, then yes
but because they can drop a wide variety of gems getting blunt is fairly rare
they were like 27% iirc
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>Two of us getting stomped on by Ludwig at the same time.
This is horrifying
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>>127206896
i believe you're aware you're currently synched down tho. what level is our host? 106 here, aiming for 117
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i want to bang Kos
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>16 messengers around the lamp in y***byza
People really want those off shapes badly.
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Anyone want to come and jolly co-operate Micolash? Don't exactly need help, but the more the merrier. password: ahhkos
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>>127207018
forgot to save the recording of that, i just pressed save, lets hope i did not fuck it up by flushing it
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>>127207247
I wanna bang a snail girl and help raise our half-kin child.
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>>127207243
right, our host level is 40, yea that'd make a pretty big difference.
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>>127207242
You need help?
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>>127207247
delete this
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>>127207247
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>>127207342
Not me per say, but our host does

To Lilith anon, i gotta stop and get food so ask for someone to take over, good luck
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>>127207316

you mean this
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>>127207316

PURGE IT
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Would you rather fug a beast girl or an alium girl?
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I have 50 skill and 50 str and 25 arcane, what is the best weapon I can use for pvp
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>>127207584
I'd fuck Amelia and Iosefka
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>>127207584
Post hot versions of both for easier deciding.
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This fucking rape horse god damn
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oh boy, lilith, dont lose hope, i have time to kill.

you should maybe let me try to solo it and see what happens-- provided you have enough insight
(the reduced hp im getting is not what i had in mind for soloing tho)
also, i am getting scaled down, right?
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>>127207727
Bro just a tip, unlock your cam when you're fighting the rape house up close, he's big enough that you don't need the tracking, but the i-frames will save your life.
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>>127207767
Yeah, you are, and i only have 12 insight

Why is this so much more difficult than usual
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>>127207584

http://40.media.tumblr.com/b709cd69fd73cc0df92b2ad58fb1fc97/tumblr_nza0962BPO1tfkxwjo1_1280.png

Does this count as alium
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>>127207316
>child
>singular
You're getting dozens to hundreds son
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>>127207816
i hate that gay spin so hard
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>>127207823
PURGE THE FILTH
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>>127207767
not to but in or anything, but the host should savescum less they don't mind losing all that insight. Make a backup save before using all their insight up
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>>127207671
We need a drawfag to draw up both versions fighting over a hunter.
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>>127207927
I dont know how to do that shit
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>>127207927
>>127207816
i would suggest doing what this anon is saying, after you secure your insight, just give it a ring again, i dont mind waiting
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can i get some screens of the milkweed mode and the parasite hands so i can try colour match?

none of my characters have 20arc
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>>127208062
quit at the fog gate>exit game>go to settings>go to save data management>upload to usb
then after you've spent all that insight, go back to settings and download save data from usb. Repeat until ludwig is dead
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>>127208174

Alright, I did that

Fuck this horse man
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where can I get decent arcane radial and triangle gems without going through chalices?

are there any enemies endgame or DLC that drop arcane % gems? I've only got the 18% from the endgame and a shitty 10% one
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This any good for a holy moonlight sword build? Would it benefit any to spread some of the points in arcane to strength or skill?
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>>127207605
HMLS
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>>127208342
You can get a arcane droplet 19% in mensis. You can get a nourishing 15% radial in mensis. You can get an odd arcane triangle in the DLC, and a 10% triangle under iosefka's clinic.

You can get offshape arcane drops around 8% from ayy's in the forest but if you're going to be korean enough to farm offshapes you might as well just go to the chalices.

Arcane builds always end up in the chalices anon, accept it.
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>>127208376
even with just 25 arcane?
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>>127208345
personally I prefer a 25/25/25 spread. It makes the entire moveset better. Having more Str and Skl makes the melee do more damage.

>>127208510
It's mostly a quality weapon. The beams are what highly benefit from Arc.
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>>127208554
so better using that over the saw? I thought since it had a B/C str/skl scaling my 50/50 wouldn't be too useful there?
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At least we hit phase 2, finally
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>>127208345
That's not a holy moonlight sword build.
That's an arc build that can use ludwig's.
50 STR or dont use HMS.
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>>127208268
so close...
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Postan Japanese maymays
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anyone want to fight Orphan of Kos with me? NG, pass is bbgkos
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>>127208603
I'd think so.

>>127208636
There is a webm floating around of an Arc build using it and doing like 3k with two beams the HMPH
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>>127208720
let me finish helping this ludwig and ill be there
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>>127208763
i appreciate it
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>>127208629
What are you guys trying to kill?
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>>127208868
Rape horse, who lives up to his name
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>>127208629
ludwig, anon is BL 40.. so being scaled down isnt fun
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>>127208907
Just go help that guy with Orphan, this isnt going anywhere
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For HMLS, are the ARC+ scaling or flat ARC damage increase better? Not too sure how it works.
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>>127208907
password?
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>>127208979
we are not done yet, besides, im going to help with orphan with my other save, this BLT build barely beat ludwig
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>>127208979
orphan guy here, i can come try to help you two with ludwig, whats the pass?
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>>127209039
>>127208994
bbg is the pass
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>>127208993
Usually percent. Flat is usually reserved for things that do multiple hits do to a flaw in the math.
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>>127208994
bbg
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>>127209074
alright im on my way
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>>127209074
are you ringing at the fog or the lantern?
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>>127209190
fog
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>>127209093
Aight great. Time to into winter lanterns!
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Ill just run and sit in a corner, you guys beat up horse
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>>127209219
im ringing again
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1dd0tV37xE
best-dlc-ever fucks btfo
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>>127209382
pls respond
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>>127209345
i forgot he does that slash forward lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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I am not finding anything this time
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>>127209634
yeah its 3 of us ringing for the same fight so far
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I made a low level character for coop. I'm cosplaying as an executioner, I just beat Logarius and got his wheel. I'm level 24, how hard is to clear CRF dungeons at this level?

I heard level 43 is the best for invading but I don't want to invade and level 43 might be too high for coop.
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>>127209692
unless you want to be stuck only fighting cleric beast and gascoigne, then 43 is actually the wide decent range, so you may fight other bosses too
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I am so bad at this fight, Im sorry its taking so long
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>>127209692
>FRC at low level

At a higher level you can still survive being hit by stuff, so you can afford to make mistakes, at that level pretty much everything would oneshot you, even the weakest mobs. you might as well call it a no damage FRC challenge run if you do it.
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>>127209773
It's ok mate, we'll get it eventually.


Ringing again.
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>>127209634
>>127209679
I stepping out, even playing sloppy as hell to try to get in more damage isn't enough to keep the host alive.
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I like the Rifle spear but I only have 12 skill at level 41 but I have 23 strength. Should I level up my skill more I dunno.
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>>127209821
I get it, I am bad, even I can tell
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>>127209962
don't listen to him, he's being an ass
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>gems can be removed and reused

I never really thought about it, but in other games stuff like this would have the gems destroyed upon removal. Thank fuck that's not the case.
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>>127209962
ill come ring again if there's space now
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What BL are you guys trying to fight ludwig at?
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>>127209992
I'm not even trying to be. I am just saying since there are too people ringing then I will let them do it, because we can't all three do it, and I probably have the least patience.
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>>127210061
If you want to help I can leave, I'm not doing fantastic either, not really used to having super low hp
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>>127209962
im at the fog
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>>127210053
Host is 40. Expect a massive damage cut, and the host to be a Ludwig magnet.
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>>127209962
dont feel discouraged, sure i fought this solo ng+ but i was bl 98-- You're doing this at bl40, entirely different.

is this a twink build?
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I dodged the wrong way, im retarded, we should just stop
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>>127210238
you sure?
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>>127210238
up to you senpai, I'm happy to keep helping
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>>127210238
no, i got cheated out of my ludwig, i want yours now
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QUICK, what dungeons has the best Waning and Radial Arcane Blood Gems??
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Damn it, I want the DLC right now so bad but don't have enough money until pay day next week.
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>>127210238
well i guess he doesn't always spray in an arc, first i've ever seen that
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>>127210370
>>127210280
>>127210279
>>127210267

I gotta download the savescum
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Auger of Ebri is so satisfying.
It feels amazing every fucking time. I wanna squeeze this slug forever to make Ebri reach through and slap things for me.
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>>127210238
Where are you ringing?
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>>127210523
fog
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>>127210460
bribri a cute
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>>127210523
we're at the fog gate
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>want to help the guy kill ludwig
>just went to ng+

what do? I can rush shit but I want to save every single GOOD npc (no whores and beasts)
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>>127208154
>>127208154
>>127208154
Guys pls ;_;
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>>127210660
you dont have multiple characters?
helping the bl40 guy is so hot right now there's literally a queue to get a try, its like a premium party, only 2 at once..
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Any tips for Living Failures? I seem to keep getting caught with the headbutt and while I can get them about half-way, I just don't know if I'm doing enough damage to really win this. I know it's a long shot, but besides advice, would anyone like to help me fight these fucks?
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>>127210718
I'm trying to fucking invade but I think they killed the bell maiden
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>>127210735
i'll help anyone who wants help.. as soon the anon at ludwigs's party is over.
>>127210763
nope, no maiden killed, i personally dont even know where it spawns
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>>127210718
>Im so bad theres a line to help me

I feel stupid
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>>127210703
I don't really know how to use my ps4 too well to save pictures to my pc, but I just took a few screenshots that I can tweet to you, what's your twitter handle?
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>>127210801
I can wait, sure. Just let me know when you guys are done
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>>127210735
The only tips you should need are 1. don't fight them unless they are isolated, 2. use the flower stalk for cover.

>>127210718
From what I have seen, every summon helping him could probably solo the fight. The problem is the host loves the taste of Ludwig's fist.

>>127210810
At least you are anonymous.
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>>127210810
ringing again anon
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>>127210735
I'll come help mate, ludwig party is full anyway
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>>127210319
For Broccoli Man build, specifically.
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Did I just get you guys? Host I killed dropped 950
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>>127210873
you'll know when the beast is slayed when the celebration posts begin flooding in
>>127210890
the hot party is here tho, even invades and whatnot
>>127210810
jesus christ why did you chase him into the crowds
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>>127210928
Because why bother fighting him
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>>127210890
Oh, great! Ringing outside the fog, pass is bbg
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>>127210718
I have my first character but he's mediocre. He only has 19% gems, it's pretty bad, don't think I should use that guy for helping.

He has 40 end, I thought it was going to be like in the other games but it's rather useless.
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at this point beating ludwig is a matter of principle
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>>127210972
sec, doing horse :(
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>Was helping Lilith anon earlier, had to stop for dinner, come back and there's a fucking line to help him beat the rape horse now.
How is this even fucking happening?
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>>127211060
As a bystander, I'm pretty sure it's because they're getting outplayed due to the stat decrease.
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>>127211053
All good, it sounds like that guy could use all the help he can get
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>>127211060
It's the Lucy effect.
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shiiit, i died at 20%, i hope you guys got it
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>>127211140
oh man i hope so
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WE DID IT BOYS
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>>127210902
>>127210319
anyone?
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>>127210928
>>127210965
This place sucks to invade in tbqhwy,fm (to be quite honest with you, family member)
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Oh god I need to get a character ready for helping retards
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>Its finally over

That was painful

Hopefully Failures and Maria are easier
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>>127211157
WOOHOO
O
O
H
O
O
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>>127211116
I'm coming to help you now mate, be right there, it's not too hard of a fight just try to play it safe
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>>127211157
AWOOO alright so failures now?
who needs help?
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>>127211161
check the OP you fuck
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just realized vilebloods are giving semen to the queen
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>>127211320
Other people's, and if you propose to her she will turn you down. They are called vile cucks for a reason.
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Is there any place other than upper cathedral ward to farm twin blood stone shards?
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Living failures = b t f o


anyone else need some help?
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Thanks to the two who joined me for the Living Failures fight! You were right in that it's just a matter of being cautious, and I was right in that I'm not delivering nearly enough damage. Damn, those saws are killer!
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>>127211482
nice to see you again @ living failures weded, i am the blt/chikagefag from ludwig

there was some dude asking for orphan earlier, i dont know if he still there
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I need to redeem myself after all that Ludwig shit
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>>127211545
yeah it was fun man, well played.
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Do you hear our prayers?
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>>127211548
Are you gonna be ringing in research hall?
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Is there any greater feeling than parrying someone with the reiter than shooting them with a bone ash cannon instead of getting the visceral damage?
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>>127211406
At least my character will become a squid.
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>>127211703
You gotta kill the NPCs to get to research hall
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>>127211726
Parrying someone and then doing a charge attack instead of a visceral.
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>>127211752
no you don't, just run past them and activate the elevator
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>>127211853
Really?

I have never had the option appear without killing them
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How rare are HoH invasions? I've kept the rune on whenever I do random co-op for a while now and haven't come across a blood adled hunter yet.
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>>127211928
use a pass, then ring the blue bell (not the beckoner one, the one for coop)
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>>127212031
Why would I use a password for random co-op?
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>>127211912
yeah, did it just now so I could get up here and invade them again
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>>127212098
>invade them

youre acting like anybody would help me again m8

im like an accidental escort quest
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Why are level 98s invading in forbidden forest?
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>>127212094
I mean, use a random pass if you want to invade using the rune system then remove it when you want to coop.

HoH invasions aren't likely to happen
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>>127212229
Why wouldn't they?
NG and NG+ aren't separate so you can invade basically anywhere.
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>>127212157
I don't give a heck, man
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>>127212157
if you need some help again hit us up, you're like our responsibility to get through this dlc now
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>>127211158
BFF
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>>127212438
im actually running behind with my bloodtinge, i'll be available for failures, i'll ignore everything and explore later
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>>127212438
I decided to try research hall alone, it takes me a good 6 hits to kill 1 of those guys

And they come in hordes, so this will be FUN
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>>127212289
A random password helps with getting HoH invasions? Is it because you won't match anyone else's password for co-op, but invasions aren't governed by passwords?
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>>127212508
bruh I killed ludwig just so I could crash this co-op party

I'd be insulted if you didn't summon them again
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>>127211921

We've got an uprising on our hands boys.
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Is Executioners the worst covenant?
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>>127212654
you can invade me, i'll ring my sinister.what bl are you? does it help if we using same pw
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Alright, lilith anon again, lets adventure through the Research Hall
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>>127212742
I join FCs for 1v1s, fambalam
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>>127212542
Pretty much

you can also use a random password and use the co-op option in the SRRC. You will be summoned as a Hunter of Hunters/vileblood/executioner.
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>>127212750
I'll be there soon, working on a chalice at the moment
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Just a list of some things I'd like to see change in DS3.

1) Buff spells scale with stats.

For example, instead of CMW just adding 50 damage, then multiplying all magic damage by a fixed number, why not have CMW add an amount of damage dependent on your INT?

2) Upgraded weapons require better stats to use.

For example, if the base Greatsword requires 20 STR to weild, then the +1 Greatsword should require 21 STR to wield. This way, people can't twink their characters without buffing their stats.

3) The ability to change the color of weapons and armor.

Have an NPC who will "dye" your gear a different color or have differently colored variants of armor and weapons in the game. Maybe you like Elite Knight set from DS1/DS2, but you want it red instead of blue. I don't think it would take much time or effort to add a few alternate color palates for each piece of gear.


5) More transparency on weapon scaling.

Instead of giving me the standard E-S ranks on damage scaling, why not give me the percentage?

6) The ability to see what a weapon/piece of armor will do to my stats before I buy it.

7) More linear scaling of stats.

Why are there soft caps for stats? Leveling most any stat beyond 50 is pointless in most circumstances. We are getting a triple "whammy" of diminishing returns on stats. At least DS2 got rid of premature hard caps.

A) Standard law of diminishing returns. (+10 damage when you are only doing 100 damage is nice, +10 when you are doing 500 damage is barely noticeable)
B) Higher levels cost more souls.
C) Higher levels give less boosts.

I don't mind the first two. Diminishing returns is just a fact of life and higher levels should cost more souls, but I don't understand requiring 2-3 levels in a stat to get a benefit.

Thoughts? I didn't type this btw, found it online and since I know everyone here will be probably be getting DS3 (and I like this better than /dsg/) I thought it would be appropriate to post here.
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>>127212750
im going to rush my failures/maria so i can be available, if you have time to kill, i dont mind if you join me
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>>127212960
I would be even worse as a summon
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>>127212918
I hate almost all of your ideas.
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>>127212750
where are you ringing your bell?
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Are blunt gems good in Hunter's Axe 2H form?
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>>127213057
Savage.
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>>127213071
only the overheads are blunt
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>>127213057
They're not mine, though I do agree with them.
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>>127213028
oops
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Requesting assistance with Maria, if any would oblige. The first phase I have no issue with, it's the second, much more damaging phase that's giving me distress. Will ring outside boss fog with the standard password, bbg
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>>127213264
im currently rushing through research hall to be able to help w/ my bloodtinge
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elemental rakuyo

is that a thing?

I kind of want to go 20/50 skl/arc. Does visceral damage just scale with skl, or does it have to be physical damage to matter?
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I need help against Lower Loran Darkbeast, glyph is "irhi" and it's the shared fixed dungeon anyway.
Password will be "d0lph1n", thank you in advance anons
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I'm more afraid of going down that fucking well again then I am of taking another crack at the Orphan
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>>127213264
I'll come now and try to help, and then go back to dying while helping lilith through the zone.
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>>127213369
>>127213468
Appreciate it, anons
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>>127213468
At least dieing while helping me is fun, right?

At least it has that?
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>SRRC at BL100
>BLB, BLB, BLB, Ebreitas, BLB, Amy, Amy
>host either dies at the fog door or during the last 10th of their health

Why're hosts always fucking retards?
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>>127213525
yeah I enjoy it, this was one of my favorite zones in the souls series so it's cool to do it again, I just keep dying to dumb stuff sometimes, sorry pal.


>>127213489
I'm searching right now, been here for a while with no luck
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>>127213549
I just wish there was a way to filter out story chalices
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>>127213409
Do you still need help? If so I'll be there shortly.
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>>127213264
>hit her to stagger
>she keeps on swinging anyways
I'm down for more. No mercy now.
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>>127213468
>>127213578
I'm ringing just outside the fog, that last attempt was very close
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>>127213616
yeah please!
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>>127213650
Hopefully on my way via SRRC shortly.
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>>127213459
>ring sinister bell
>silence sinister bell
>kill bell maiden
>ring beckoning
>have your summon throw his body at the sharks until they're dead
>suck his dick afterwards as a prank

>>127213614
I don't think you do. You'd end up with 99% watcher/elder farming
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>>127213690
>You'd end up with 99% watcher/elder farming

That's what I want
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And Maria is dead! Thanks, Elizabeth-anon and Weded-anon!
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>helping someone fight an undead giant in FRC
>they bone marrow their repeater pistol just before we enter
>she shoots the bubble
>when the giant wakes up he proceeds to one shot her

You just cant protect people from their own stupidity.
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>>127213690
>implying that's a bad thing
Honestly, anything other than BLB and Defiled Hotdog/Amy would be nice.
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I got summoned for her a few times, but I can't understand how you'd want to ruin Lady Maria's fight by summoning.
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>>127213751
all good mate, I showed up late and we just demolished her, so wasn't too much work


>>127213525
I'm ringing again to try and help
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>>127213789
People are shit at videogames, "jolly cooperation" is a thing and other memes
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>>127213717
>>127213773
you can already accomplish this by making pomf/5pwu/kkvk and ringing your small res just before the fog
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>Someone summons me via SRC before they've even touched the fucking lamp
>Start clearing the level for them
>Sent home

I wish people would just summon for bosses in story chalices, the levels themselves are so fucking boring and unrewarding.
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>>127213751
My pleasure.
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>>127212918
>1) Buff spells scale with stats.
Probably ok as long as it's done carefully so buff builds won't become sole top meta.
>2) Upgraded weapons require better stats to use.
You just killed base level runs unless DS3 has some equivalent of pyro flame that doesn't require better stats at max damage.
While one might argue that it's a small sacrifice to fix twinking there are going to be many to disagree.
3) The ability to change the color of weapons and armor.
Please no. Johny Random Undead has very very bad taste and often finds eye raping neon colors or totally ugly combinations funny.
If this somehow comes to pass From better adds 'Use default color scheme for weapons/armor for invaders and coop partners' in Options.
4)
Totally agree with this one.
5) More transparency on weapon scaling.
6) The ability to see what a weapon/piece of armor will do to my stats before I buy it.
Ok.
7) More linear scaling of stats.
I'm divided on this one mostly because we already got familiar with basics of how stats work.
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>>127213854
I never get summoned in kkvk
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boy i died so many fucking times at stupid fucking shit trying to rush research hall,anyhow, about to kill failures and lady merriah, i do not need help but i'll ring beckoners for whoever wants free echoes
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screens of ayylmao mode and kos tentacle pls
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>>127213857
People summon for the levels?

I'm so glad I don't SRRC outside of /bbg/. I once cleared all of Forbidden Woods for my host only for him to get lost and fall off a cliff.
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Anyone know Ihyll CRF glyph with aura madman near lamp?
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>>127213650
God damn it, I fucked up. Hard to nail the timing of the explosion when there's some lag.
Do you need me to ring again?
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>>127213682
Fug I died too
Care to try again?
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>>127214053
It's okay, that attack is a whore. Yeah, I'd like to, we were off to a great start
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>>127214139
Okay, I'm ringing via SRRC again. We'll nail 'em this time.
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>>127214023
pomf

>>127213926
I always do, family member
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>>127213964
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These patients really like to swarm with those combos
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>>127214220
Is it just the two of you?
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>>127214206
What BL are you?
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>>127214220
are you lilith?, im about to kiss the love out of mariah, i'll be ready to help
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>>127214278
yes
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Started my 3rd char and going to blt. Anyway I just defeated Amelia and that fucking gate hasn't unlocked to the graveyard! What the fuck is going on? Im sure that after I inspect that skull it turns to night and that gate should unlock by itself without me having to buy that emblem
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>>127214283
I was on my 78 ringing my small res and running back and forth from the stairs leading to the fog gate and the lamp

got summons to the point that it was comparable to the efficiency of savescumming

>>127214332
ringing by the lamp
pass is bbg right?
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>>127214392
There's a lever, m8.
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>>127214392
disregard I suck cocks, didnt see the lever
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>>127214420
>>127214315
bbg is best pass
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>>127213857
That shit fucking infuriates me. Don't ring your god damn bell until you're ready to fight the boss, you don't need help with clearing rooms for christ sake.
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>>127214508
hold on, maria handed me back my ass at the last 5%
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Do winter lanterns actually drop any arcane gems? I've only had PHYS+ ones drop.
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>>127214178
Thanks a thousand Wanderer, that boss has been a pain in my ass for too long!
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>>127214624
No worries, man. I've got a bit of a love/hate relationship with Darkbeasts. Love their concept and design, HATE fighting them. Especially CRF Darkbeasts.
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>>127214604
nope
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>>127214604
Never happened to me. Only non Tempering gems I got from them were Adept thrust/blunt gems.
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>>127214694
At least I got some Physical gem upgrades. Whatever
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>>127214332
well that sucked. lmao
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What's in the well in the fishing hamlet?
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>>127214727
At least I can take this time to level up a bit, unless you like escorting a 20 vit character
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>>127214787
A good time.
You should go down there.
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>>127214787
Fun times.
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>>127214794
mariah is making me her bitch where are you ringing?
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>>127214812
>>127214840

Gee wiz, no way this could be inaccurate! Fun times, here I come! Thanks, anons!
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>>127214207
cheers man
gonna try match the tentacle colour to skin
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>>127214916
Pass?
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i'm probably going to be shit on for saying this but i feel as if chalice dungeons are a black mark on this game. The idea was there but overall they feel as if they were implemented very poorly. i know a rumored 'chalice patch' is coming but i can't imagine it being full of overarching significant changes, but hey you never know.
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I hated Forbidden woods the first time I ran through it, now I fucking love the place
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>>127214960
not asking for help, ill get this solo soon, asking lilith if she's ringing so i can hurry up
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farming the fag in lower loran 3 for sage hair
30 kills and no drop

how long do i have to do this?
>you have to farm so you can farm
i'd rather play ds2 honestly
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>>127215007
Well I just got wrecked at Failures, so at the lamp
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>>127214964
>i'm probably going to be shit on for saying this...
No you're not there are many who dislike chalices and probably majority who dislikes story ones when they make another character.
>i know a rumored 'chalice patch' is coming but i can't imagine it being full of overarching significant changes, but hey you never know.
There's probably not going to be another big patch 1.07 was it.
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>>127215007
We just failed on the living failures, I'll be waiting outside the bossroom if lilith wants to go again
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>>127215051
go to isz layer 3
there's a fucking speedrun guide in the OP
l m a o
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>>127214920
You gonna get raped
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>>127215078
Sorry m8, I got comboed by two of the melee ones
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Are there any SKL weapons that benefit greatly from SKL scaling triangle gems? I've acquired a fair few of them while farming 23.1 phys gems from casu's Beast-possessed Soul by the lamp. Figured I might as well see if I can put 'em to use.
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>>127215051
>30 kills and no drop
Your doing something wrong or you're totally extremely unlucky.
How much Insight do you have?
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>>127214964
I wouldn't mind them if it was something you did once and once only, with no need to go through it again if you made a new character.

They could have used a bit more effort too - Isz and Loran looked pretty cool, but they suffered because they used mostly the same pieces of "architecture".
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>>127215078
im ringing at lamp aswell, i'll do my maria after we help lilith with it, i figure i actually dont need to help beyond that
its 5:45am and while i'd love to see the end of this dlc adventure, i should be in bed soon
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>>127215160
it's all good, I'll wait outside the fog gate for you, you should just be able to run there without fighting
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>>127215171
SKL scaling gems are garbage, give them to the fraampt bath
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>>127215209
Im trying to summon other friendo before I go up there
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>>127215205
i forgot i had removed the pass-- i got summoned into a vileblood world, currently using exec rune. im laughing, is either of you a vileblood? i should go change
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>>127215281
i'll head down then so you can get both of us :)
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>>127215281
>>127215330
ringing by the lamp
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>>127215259
I was afraid of that, oh well. Also found what would've been a semi-decent off-shape Circular for my Bowblade IF IT DIDN'T HAVE ATTACK DOWN ON IT.
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>>127215205
>leaving before the end

But can you imagine the Orphan battle?
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How do you use A Call Beyond effectively? Stand under the boss?
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>>127215440
please no.


good try steve buscemi
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>>127215568
that was obviously my gf playing, I was in the bathroom
shut up
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>>127215098
so according to the guide;
>once you make any CFR dungeon you can start using glyphs for any of the 3 CFR dungeons
AND
>you get the Isz root after doing just a single dungeon (great Isz)

does this mean i could just go NG+, get up to ebby and kill her, beat her chalice, make a CFR root Isz and then use dank glyphs to farm dank gems?
I have no interest in fighting the queen atm
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>>127215561
Either really close or kind of far away, it's hard to get the right spot
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I think i might be the dead failure, because wow
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>>127215568
my weapon went at risk midfight so I lost a lot of damage, oops.
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>>127215739
so did you guys get it.. or?
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>>127215685
Use the video family, NG+ is for scrubs.

You must have the root chalice of Ihyll and Lower Loran, so you still have to do those story chalices if you want 15% hp rune, 20% stam rune, radial phys gems or waning gems.
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>>127215792
no

not at all

I did just find that asian guys set though
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>>127215792
nope
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>>127215685
You have to OWN other roots for that to work.
For Ihyll root you don't have to kill Queen but headless BLB on the layer before her.
For L.Loran root you have to kill everyone's favorite Loran Camerabeast.
Have fun.
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>>127215685
I don't know if you can get every mat for isz just by hitting NG+, but I do know that there are 6 sage hairs in the bonus room in the main dungeon of isz layer 3
>>
To can someone please help me co-op rom the vacuous spider ?
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>>127215863
I can help. Password?
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>>127215840
>>127215841
alright, in front of failing failures again, or do i go to lamp'
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>>127215840
I'm at the lantern, where are you?
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>>127215908
i can meet you guys at lamp if you want
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>>127215890
Pass is faggot
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>>127215969
I'll be ringing by Rom's fog gate.
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so my little brother has beat headless bsb and has all the mats for FRC P iihyll

is the next step making that chalice with all curses and then doing it?
i don't understand chalices at all but he wants good gems and i told him i'd find out
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>>127215969
I'll help out. Do you want to enjoy the fight or murder him?
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Anyone need help with FRC stuff?
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>>127215908
fog gate m8
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>>127215946
we're outside the fog gate
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>>127216018
>is the next step making that chalice with all curses and then doing it?
Yes though the 'doing it' part isn't actually necessary but let him anyway so he can get a taste of things to come.
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>>127216018
as soon as "your brother" makes an FRC dungeon, he has access to any FRC glyph
he doesn't have to complete it
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>>127216018
He has to make one of the depth 5 chalices with all 3 rites. Then he can chalice glyph search at an altar similar chalices which will have dank gems dropping from the bosses. pwmf22gu is the main one for physical builds.

Your little brother should use google
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has anyone actually helped a host start to finish in hamlet?

I've been summoning there all evening and it's either summon at the gate the help with kos, or summon at the start to help get all the shortcuts unlocked/sharkmemes killed.

Not really complaining, there's considerably more pvp there than in the rest of the game.
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>>127216058
Whoa thanks guys you fukn rekt him holy shit
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>>127216192
Yeah, no kidding. I wasn't expecting Rom to go down that quickly.
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ugh sorry about that, fucked up. Let's wait outside the fog gate, makes it easier.
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>>127216248
I kept getting one shot by spiders, the spiders for christ sake!
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Gonna start farming 5pwuj for a little while, who wants to tag along?
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>>127216402
I could come along if need be
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>>127216432
Cool, password will be bbg1. I'll probably be at it for a while since I want a Rapid Poison gem for experimenting.
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Insight is for faggots
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>>127216248
>>127216192
I always feel bad when shit dies that quickly cause I robbed enough people of boss fights.

Good work nevertheless.
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>>127216475
I've never even seen them drop in pomf...
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Are you comin friendo?
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>>127216313
are you guys trying back for failures/maria?
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>>127216475
I'll come too
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>>127216475
Ayylium coming, I'll just L2 at them. I won't be at it for long I don't think though. Char name is Tawil
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>>127216514
Nah it was past the point of fun I'd died so many times it was becoming a real chore
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>TFW ringing the Small Resonant Bell as a HoH with the password bbg123
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>>127216559
im really loving that low hp... i keep forgetting
>>
These blue fucks hit hard
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>>127216108
thanks, he made that one

is the gem guaranteed?
should he backup a save before the boss, or can he just re-try after winning?
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>>127216651
yeah it's rough, just need to try and play way safer
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>>127216675
The gem is guaranteed to drop, it just might not be what he wants, there's RNG involved. He just creates the glyph again for no cost if he wants to run it again.
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>>127216518
I've never seen any high-tier poison gem drops either, actually. Figured I might as well give it a shot.
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Why isn't 140 a meta level?
>invade 120 meta which is popular, also 150 meta.
>can be invaded by 98-100 meta
>can have 50 vit, and x2 50 attack stats, and 20 endurance with spare levels for weapon requirements, so still quality, str/arc, str/bld, skl/bld, skl/arc builds for variety
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Post bullying.
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>>127216829
>x2 50 attack stats
Yay laggy 50/50 saw users.
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>>127216829
some people like having builds though
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>>127216829
Because it is over-level as fuck and you can already wreck shit at level 98 or 120
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>>127216829
I'm going to go BL140 for my Chalice co-op character.
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>>127216829
>and x2 50 attack stats
That's kind of an overkill, isn't it?
On BL98 with 50VIT people can die pretty fast fighting each other. If you add another 40 levels to damage stats it's going to be worse even with raised natural defenses.
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>>127216829
>can have ... (everything)
same shit as 150.
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>>127216915
physical defence is far from maxed, so you can easily 1-3 shot most people, especially without 50 vit and runes, assuming you have 27% gems.

>>127216887
as in pure builds or 25/25 split styled builds?

>>127216962
Physical defense scales to 145 or something, so it counters the damage.
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>>127216768
the glyph is for 27%phys gems and he got a 30%blunt... with hp depletes

how rare is the gem he wants?
>>
Man, you guys with your JoJo poses make my scythe and Piercing Rifle look pretty weak.
I should try an Ayy build some time.
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>>127216865
noice

On an unrelated note, how does the fucking hold x and motion thing work for gestures? Every fucking motion i try it does the opposite, I didnt even know the ps4 pad had motion control in it desu
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>>127217052
I...don't know what gem he wants. The best gem for a physical build (not counting special damage types like blunt for boom hammer etc) is a 27.2% phys attack up. It's not super rare because most people grind out two of them every build, but it's not a super common drop either. He'll get plenty of other good gems though.
>>
>Lady Maria

This will either be very easy or very difficult
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>>127216998
Physical defense is irrelevant considering people will just drop those points into damage stats anyway.

Physical defense starts hitting heavy diminishing returns at 130. And at level 125 you can have 50 vit, 20 end, 50 in one stat and 25 in two others. There is no excuse for leveling to 140.
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>>127217180
Depends on quick your gun hand is.
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>>127216998
the damage formula for AR >= DEF is roughly
>Damage = 0.9 * AR - 0.5 * DEF

going from 100 to 145 gives you about 40 def

if you want to compare damage between two BL100s hitting each other and two 150s hitting each other, examine the differences in variables in the formula
simply put, you can compare it by asking yourself if 90% of the AR gained by moving up 50 levels is greater than 50% of the defense gained from doing the same

or, more appropriately
>do I gain more than 22 AR by moving up to 150?
if yes, you've negated the "tankiness" you think you're getting by moving up

this argument needs to fucking go home, it's 2016 for kos' sake
>>
I really do not get it

OK seriously can someone explain the appeal behind bloodborne and/or other souls games?

Ive never played any of the others, and picked up bloodborne on a recommendation.

This is the most tedious God damned game I have ever played. The controls are shit, and the enemies respawn in the exact same arrangement every single time.

Plus, theres like zero narrative. I have absolutely no understanding of my motivation other than some old fuck said something about hunters? What are they hunting? Why is everything dirty?

Why should I even care?

Is this just supposed to appeal to nintendohard nostalgiafags?

am I missing something?
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>>127217194
>And at level 125 you can have 50 vit, 20 end, 50 in one stat and 25 in two others
That's actually a good point, thank you.
50/20/50/25/25/6 @ lvl 126
Is 125 meta popular?

>>127217232
thanks
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>>127217265
>am I missing something?
Not really. You don't have to like every game other people do.
Go sell your copy and get something you will have more fun with.
Don't force yourself to play something you dislike just because it's popular.
>>
What happened to the wikidot guys, the BB page is dead.
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>>127217265
If you endure being bad at the game at first you'll begin to appreciate it. You have to discover the story for yourself by exploring and reading.

Either that or the game isn't for you and you should play something else.
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>>127217265
Souls and Bloodborne are just a niche, not intended for everybody to enjoy or be good at like CoD, Battlefield, or any other AAA title.
Don't feel bad about it or hate on the game, it just isn't for you.
>>
Friendo its Maria time, we at the door, you comin?
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I need an anon to help me against cursed Flamedog, glitch is wma2 and its the story chalice. Password is bbg, please help!
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>>127217232
HMLS goes up by 32 AR all on it's own when going from 120 to 140 before you even take gems into account.

>>127217328
Most people consider 120 and 125 the same meta.

Cruel Fate - 50/20/50/25/05/25 is exactly level 125
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>>127217412
yes, im coming, been ringing for a while
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>>127217467
>Cruel Fate - 50/20/50/25/05/25 is exactly level 125
Worth converting my 50/18/10/50/05/15 to that?
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>>127217371
They got rid of it due to the fact nobody was using it. Source: I heard it on bbg. A shame, I always used it for DeS and DaS but it was so out of date for BB.
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>>127217435
I'm ringing now
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>>127217435
gimme a minute to find a character that has it open
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>tfw played BB for about 8 hours straight
Well, I finally got all the items i've been waiting for at Cainhurst. Being a vileblood feels so good.
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>>127217521
Damn shame indeed, they have been around for a long ass time, and fuck using frexlife.
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>>127217371
>>127217521
I don't understand why people use fextralife. It looks like a kid designed it and the page layouts are terrible. Not to mention all the misinformation.
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>>127217506
If you use the the HMLS.
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>>127217629
Because they kept forcing it into our OP Pasta until people used it.
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>>127217639
Currently just 98 skill build with tools. Mainly using rakuyo, BB, can also use saif, spear, cane, BoM and whatever other skill weapons.
I do like the look of HMLS though, plus the added STR and ARC would be good with burial blade and spear/saif.
Even the extra 2 end is a bonus
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>>127217435
Ringing at the fog gate.
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>>127217629
what else do we have though
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>>127217265
>nintendohard nostalgiafags

lel, why am i not surprised?
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>>127217629
>>127217707
Why don't you contribute and fix up some pages? These ARE community projects and all...
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>>127217723
just make a new character, anon
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Can watchers be poisoned?
>this drops as an offshape in 5pwu
Couldn't have been an arcane gem?
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aight, whore maria is down, why dont you both ring up and help me with mine, she keeps animeing me on the last 5%
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I'm probably going to hop off bloodborne for a while lilith, was fun though. Good luck with the orphan.


If you want add me on steam with the same name and I can help you with the orphan tomorrow
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>>127217629
Because it has the most info. It's really inconsistent on shit, though and even after like 7-9 months they haven't even bothered to finish everything.
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>>127217804
It took me 70 hours to do all main story, all chalices and all DLC and get 27% gems :(
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>>127217846
I can try to help you
>>127217854
Cya m8
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>>127217846
yeah I'll help, no problems. ringing now
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>>127217891
get great, anon

it's not hard to speedrun the main game in under 4 hours, and the chalice speedrun guide can carry you through them in under 3, and even less if you decide to do them in NG+
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Best way to grind insight?
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>>127217936
Theres like 20 wededs m8
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>>127217834
Shit son, that's a nice radial. I'm pretty jealous.
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>merciless watchers
>parry
>go in for the visceral counting on i-frames to keep you safe
>you slide through the enemy instead of visceraling and get killed by the others

why is this allowed
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>>127217371
Wikidot has hardly any info on it.

Normally, I'd use it but there's just so much more stuff on fextra.

Sucks but not much else to use. I vaguely remember Fextra being listed on the cover or manual of DS2 so that might explain the switch in popularity.
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>>127218003

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Weded
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>>127217951
I guess I do know my way around to speed run the main game. I'd have to watch a tutorial for chalice speed running, however.
Might give it a go
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>>127217435
Still need help ;_;
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>>127218058
they had a deal with namco, and vaati shilled them for das2 and BB
but fuck that, wikidot has been with the community ever since DeS days.
fucking pcfags ruinning our shit i swear
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>>127218140
>shilling a website that has LESS info
>for free
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>>127218106
I love watching speedrunners, you always learn something new about the game. Saw Dist do a Yahargul skip I'd never seen before.

Santzo streaming now
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>>127218140
If you think shit needs to be added, add it your self. Fextra has little to no quality control, wikidot will give whatever you add a once-over at least.
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that fucking maria fight, did you end up with 1hp? holy shit.

also, what BL are you? you even had to downscale to me
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I'm getting some damn fine gems but I GUARANTEE when I get the 27.2% arc it will have ATK down or HP depletes
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>>127218445
I'm like 170 or something, probably should have stopped leveling this character a while ago, but I don't really play all that much any more honestly. And yeah we got pretty brave at the end lol
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So are we goin through the hamlet?
I kinda want the Rakuyo but the fishies will crush my soul
>>
God I'm sorry about the dog
That charge attack always ends up getting me eventually
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>>127218445
>>127218532
>>127218592
>>127218608
can you guys just use headsets or something?
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>>127218485
And I still haven't seen any Rapid Poison gems yet. Damn.
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>>127218273
Can I please get a link?
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>>127218592
are you lilith? if so, no- im going to bed, it is 7 am now, shoulda gone to bed about 7 hours ago.

savyna/celcsica hera, thanks for the fun.
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>>127218659
>guys stop talking about your cooperation in the game in the general for the game
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>>127218676
Maybe see if the club/cleaver duo will just focus on me and I can L2 them to death while you go around and slit up the gun watcher. If it doesn't work the current strat is still pretty effective

>>127218679
twitch tv /santzo84
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I guess i'm not the only anon ringing at the cursed watchdog
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>>127218592
yeah I'm also sleeping sorry m8
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>>127218787
>>127218683
thanks for walkn me through the game
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>>127218737
>>127218676
Oh...oh dear, they've never actually hit me there before.
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>>127218863
No biggie, still got 'em. Gonna ring again in a sec.
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>looking through gem pastebin
>cold abyssals are on the FORTH FUCKING LAYER
>THE BOSS IS HMPH AND YOU CAN'T EVEN VISCERAL BECAUSE YOU'RE AN ARC BUILD
>DID I MENTION IT'S A CURSED CHALICE TOO

lmao
how do arcfags put up with this shit?
>>
Cursed dog dead
Thanks to everybody
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>>127218762
I helped one guy just then, do you still need help?
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>>127218976
The Ihyll chalice is full of spiders but it's not that bad of a boss. We can literally stunlock him with blacksky eye
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>>127218976
Spam executioner gauntlet's and then dash in and repeat. When he goes to last phase I just spam Blacksky eye at him until he dies

Also just do kkvk8gsj for Cold Abyssal radials, ATK vs open foes is pretty much the best secondary effect.
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>>127218938
Uhhh....was that me disconnecting or you?
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Is there a good hunter willing to help me with Ebrietas in in the great Izs chalice? BL 120 and password is bbg213
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>>127218737
>twitch tv /santzo84
How long will he take?
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>>127218995
Yea if you could would be nice
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>>127219137
Once he actually gets a run going in the area of 1hrs and 30 minutes.
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>>127219138
ringing now
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>>127219125
I'm not too sure, actually.
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>>127219208
Annoying. It happened to me once or twice earlier today out of like 30 invasions, so I just assumed it was hosts disconnecting, hopefully my net isn't playing up. Reringing
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>>127219128
Need to get a shower but if you haven't had any luck by the time I get back I'll come help, shouldn't be longer than 30 minutes.
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Stop at 15 endurance?
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>>127218736
It does get annoying to a lot of people when other people constantly treat it like a personal chat room though.

Little back and forths like that after they have connected can be left to PSN messages or an IRC.
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>>127219350
Thanks, pal
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Guys I need a bit of an advice

If I'm using the Cutter as my main weapon with 50/25 stats, would STR scaling gems give off more dmg than % gems?

And is the regular version of the weapon (rad/rad/tri) best choice to get pure physical gem setup? Or would waning be better than triangle?
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Is our only hope that Lucifer will die one day?
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>>127219420
20. 15 is a compromise you go with if you need the stats elsewhere.
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>>127219514
Try Blunt gems, they apparently work best with the Cutter.

>>127219264
Hmm, I haven't picked up anything yet. Odd.
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>>127219447
>IRC
oh i'm laffing
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>>127219564
Wait what, Cutter does also blunt damage? Which attacks do?
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>>127219514
regular is best
i assume scaling gems would help, not sure if you want 1 or 2 though

also blunt gems
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>>127219196
Thank you so much
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>>127218976
Look through the other spreadsheet
Elder is on 3rd later of kkvk8gsj

Backstab/augur or blacksky eye cheese
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So what was the best kind of gems for arcane? I'm not used to spelunking, but I want a wizard build

Flat +72 arcane, right? Probably gonna be picking up a cane for it
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>>127219653
np m8
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>>127219528
Thanks, are gemstones permanent or can I replace them as I get better,>>127219528
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>>127219631
Yeah, some people here did some messing around and apparently every single attack of the Beast Cutter is blunt, PLUS it's got the Serrated modifier making it good for beasts.
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>>127219757
gems can always be swapped out
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>>127219783
>PLUS it's got the Serrated modifier
I thought there was some outrage that the cutter somehow didn't have serrated damage while the church pick somehow did?
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>>127219828
I think it's more the fact that the Church Pick has the Serrated modifier despite not being a serrated weapon. It's pretty silly.
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>>127219783
What the fuck really

Well, blunt gems here I come
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>>127219690
You want nourishing gems that add physical and the specific element you're using on it.
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>>127219819
Caryll too? Sorry, trying to play first run ad blind as possible but sometimes this series is punishing with unknowing choices.
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>>127219919
>Caryll
yeah
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>>127219690
>Flat +72 arcane, right?

No. For Arcane weapons you want uncanny and 2x Cold Abyssals and one 27.2% Arcane triangle (not certain about this setup). For Bolt/Fire you want 2x Cold Abyssals and either a 27.2% Fire triangle or a Bolt Abyssal. This is assuming you have at least 50 Arcane, I think the setup would be slightly different if you have lower Arcane.

>>127219881
What? Nourishing gems are basically only good for the Moonlight sword, and that isn't even really what you'd want for an Arcane build anyway.
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>>127219952
Gracias
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Watchers are gay and have gay threesomes. Reringing.
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Anyone want to help me on Cursed Amygdala? Glyph is still wma2
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>>127220067
Should we stick to the original strategy?
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>>127220116
Yeah I seem to be getting pounded trying to mix things up
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>>127220086
And password is still bbg, my bad
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>>127219420
Stop at base end
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>>127220067
How do you die to the watchers in co-op?

>>127220086
Save yourself the headache and solo it. It's much easier solo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uYl5afN2cI&feature=youtu.be&t=19s
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>>127206807
Just beat that fuck a few ago, killed him much faster than the version with its head.
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>>127206753
>>127206858
I love love love this artist
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>>127220202
>How do you die to the watchers in co-op?
I press L2 as an alien and get pounded through a wall

I hope I didn't stand on that plate, how embarassing
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>>127220301
That was really weird. You just died out of nowhere on my screen, then a few seconds later some flaming arrows flew by.
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post submerged hunters!
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>>127220202
Looks fun but not only i am a skl build, i only deal about half that damage
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So, I haven't read the revised version of the Paleblood hunt, but I'm going through the Old Hunters DLC trying to decipher what's going on.

The feeling I'm getting is that the Hunter's Nightmare is some sort of hell/punishment for old sins, and I'm basically going through a slideshow of different layers of hell, finally going all the way back to the original Hunter's sin: The Fishing Hamlet.

Is that sorta right?
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>he died to Rom

mein sides
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>>127220658
>Ludwig's
Dropped.
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>>127220581
I can help, what's the pass?
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Sometimes tells me Rapid Poison gems don't actually drop from the 5pwu watchers at all. Either that or I've got supremely shit luck, because this is the only poison gem I've seen so far, and it came from the Celestial mobs before the boss gate lever.
Of course, it has to be a gem with ATK DOWN.
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>>127220581
Doesn't matter. The strategy works for every build. If you do less damage then you just have to repeat it a few more times.

>>127220658
Stokoe is shit and people should not try to imitate him.
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>he doesn't main kirk
what a loser
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>>127220680
Man moding is sometimes a mistake

>>127220658
Sorta
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>>127220746
bbg
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Hey guys, I'm 100% sure that I've got all the weapons and firearms (Vanilla and DLC ones) but the vanilla trophy just doesn't show up. What can I do?
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>>127220758
Cows is the best book ever written though
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>>127220861
Double check
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>>127220868
wrong stokoe, kiddo
>>
SERIOUSLY THAT XXXX/XXXX HEALTH BAR WASN'T THERE AT LAUNCH

WHAT TIMELINE DID I FALL INTO
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Who's this old fuck in the chair outside Rom's boss battle?
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>>127220754
These drop from the ass hat hunters in the Isz glyph, radial though. You still ringing?
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>>127220971
Master Willem
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>>127220959
>implying the other stokoes matter
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>>127220984
Yup, I might give it a couple more goes before I give up on the Poison gems for the night.
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>>127220783
I just use the short ritual chalice right?
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DARK SOULS FAG HERE ABOUT TO BEGIN BLOODBORNE

I NEED TO KNOW ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY

ARE THERE SPEARS
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>>127221001
Should I murder him
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>>127221170
PREPARE THINE ANUS, YOU GET A SPEAR


WITH A SHOTGUN ON IT
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>>127221074
Why the shit aren't we connecting? I was getting in fine before.
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>>127221185
Yes, he gives you a rune
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>>127199617
Bloodletter tested on doll.

Origin: Waste of skin, BLT 50, STR 14 rest of stats base.
Shit's not optimised in any way, just for testing.

korean BLT offshapes: 30.4% / 31.5% / 31.5%
(durability down / stam use up / -kin 10.9%)
Requires mind numbing grind and some sacrifice to RNGods. Also untricked damage is pitiful.

untricked
R1 179
R2 284

tricked
R1 742
R2 1060
L2 1413

33% at full hp: PH+21% + PH+11,5% at full HP / PH+21% + PH+12% at full HP / PH+33.3% at full HP
(durability down / stamina use up / durability down)
Requres player to stay at full HP at all times or to lose significant portion of damage.
First two gems were from madmen with red aura, third is from watchers boss or single watcher with red aura if you're ok with tier 18 (tier 19 has 34.4%)

untricked
R1 461
R2 692

tricked
R1 801
R2 1145
L2 1527

something for suicidal anons: PH+11.3 near death + PH+27 near death / PH+11.3 near death + PH+27 near death / PH+8.8 near death + PH+27 near death
(-beast 10.5% / -beast 10.1% / -kin 10.9%)
Requires player to be one hit away from death.
Gems drop from frenzy ghosts and madmen with red aura.

untricked
R1 522
R2 784

tricked
R1 907
R2 1296
L2 1728
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>>127221216
I dunno man, I noticed our connection's been pretty shit the past few runs as well. I don't mind going solo if you can't get in though, it'll just take longer.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iogpZHkfN2I

this reminded me of the cleric beast so much holy shit
>>
>>127221170
Yeah, technically, but they completely suck compared to souls spears.
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>>127221204
BUT IS IT GOOD
>>
I'm making my first CFR dungeon and I'm making it a great Isz, is that a good choice?

And why do I want to make itcursed on top of F and R? I really don't want to because I fucking hate the low health shit. Will I take a hit to the quality of gems I find or something?
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>>127221283
>get in
>Session lost
Okay I'll give it one more try. I want that fucking 27.2% ARC gem
>>
>>127221352

Yeah
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>>127221453
Because you unlock access to all FRC dungeons. The dungeon you make doesn't really matter.
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>>127219490
Still need help m8?
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why does no one have honor in this game? is bloodborne filled with newfags that never played dark souls and learned the basic manners of PVP? jesus christ.
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>>127221352
EVERYTHING IS GOOD SON
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>>127221453
Put it this way: Cursing a dungeon gives you access to the very best gems. Do you like being powerful?
You'll get used to half HP pretty quickly.
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>>127221534
No I downed her with some help from a rando. Thanks anyway, man.
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>>127221552
THANK YOU FELLOW ANON

TIME TO SPEAR SOME BEASTS
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>>127221453
You want to make it CRF so that you can later use glyphs to search for any combination of a C, R, and/or F dungeon. You have to make a cursed dungeon before you can search one basically.
>>
>>127221536

Didn't you post this yesterday?
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>>127221228
How kind of him
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>>127221536
*le bedora tib*
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>>127221465
I don't think it's gonna happen, man.
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>>127221601
Gotcha, thanks.
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>>127221673
I give up sorry man, my internet is obviously being shit. Probably going to be faster if we both just run by ourselves UGH
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>>127220658
I read the shadow over innsmouth couple days ago.

In it the townsfolk worship Dagon (Kos), breed with the Deep Ones (cute snail girls) in exchange for treasure and immortality (metamorphosis). There's even mention of a raid in the opening.

The nightmare environments look like a dried ocean floor, replete with basalt columns, derelict ships and rockpools, and from the hamlet they appear to be under the water.

It's my interpretation that when a Great One curses a person or persons, the curse manifests as an eruption beneath the oceans of the dreamlands, a nightmare emerges.

volcanic upheaval was a big deal for Lovecraft, and basalt columns are a symptom of it.
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>>127206497
Dunno if the glitch still works, but transform your hands into tentacle mode, exit game, then start a new game
Your hands should be in ayy-mode in the character creator
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Who are your favorite NPC hunter/hunters?
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>>127221536
kek
>>
>>127221848
Defector Antal is my husbando
>>
>>127221848
Yurie, Edgar and Queen Killer
>>
>>127221784
yeah but i only have the parasite on one save and he's lv90 so getting to 20arc would take like 300k souls
>>
Why is the doll so big?
>>
>>127221716
It's cool, turns out the Watchers are hilariously weak to concentrated gunfire from a Reiterpallasch.
Thanks for tagging along anyway, dude. Appreciate it. I might try to get some poison gems from other sources.
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>>127221937

Queen Killer a best

>literally doesn't give two shits about those annoying defiled bosses and rip and tears them a new asshole
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>>127221964
so she can cUck u
>>
Amygdala anon here, I didnt make it after you died. Care to finish the job?
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>>127221964
She's modeled after Maria, who is also pretty big.
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>>127221964

She's a big girl

For you
>>
you're a big doll
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>>127221848
>tfw ganking defiled hotdog with Queen Killer
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>>127222179
full pic plz
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>Gatling gun
>Exploding hammers
>Exploding punch nail driver
>Buzzsaw on a stick
>Taping a rifle to a spear
>That goddamn cannon
>Got kicked out of the workshop for partying too hard
>"If a weapon ain't got kick, it just ain't worth it."

Why are the powder keggers the best faction?
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>>127221536
>newfags that never played dark souls
>dark souls
You are the only newfag here anon.

This game has no honour due to being forced into 2 or 3v1's thanks to the bell system.

Now honourfags have no choice but to play exactly how it was always design: be the biggest fucking asshole you possibly can to the host to disrupt his playthrough to the best of your ability.
>>
>>127221985
Yeah and I found the right spot to stand so I won't get pancaked by fucktard watchers. I was keking pretty hard when I saw your piercing rifle hitting all three of them
>>
>>127222397

>burnt down Old Yharnam after a crazy night out


Bless em
>>
>>127207494
That does look pretty cool.
>>
Fresh batch of chalice dungeons for your spelunking needs:

FRC Ihyll:
vk55mkgv
hz5q2n47

FRC Lower Loran:
6qhchkfd
gk4c3gym

FRC Isz:
hifs7k7v
ss9frvyc

The damn 3rd guidance rune has to be down there somewhere.
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>>127221536
>playing a game I bought
>anon has invaded you
>he's actually fedoraing after entering my world
>get a nice heavy attack on him and the kill comes soon after
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>>127222731
:D Thanks
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>>127222446
Piercing Rifle managed to secure it's spot as my gunfu very quickly. It may not be the strongest, but I like the piercing gimmick and the sound it makes when firing. Shame about the slow recovery - sometimes makes Viscerals hard to pull off. Hitting more than one target for 600+ damage with BMA is so worth it, though.
I can just imagine how deliciously powerful it would be on a BLT character, oh man.
>>
I give up on Amygdala for now, but thanks Hunter
>>
>>127221570
>tfw playing anything but FRC after playing FRC

Even NG+ story game is a joke, even the DLC. Chalice is forgiving, even deoth 5/cursed pthumerian is very forgiving.
>>
>>127222794
yeah!
maybe one of them will also have the boss rush mode
>>
>first playthrough ever
>beat Gascoigne, BSB on first try
>doing first chalice
>undead giant kicking my ass
Why
>>
>>127221536
>Guy bows
>Call from Beyond
>Instant kill

Keep bowing, honorfaggot
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>>127222902
Told you it was 100 times easier solo.
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>>127222902
No worries, it's a pretty hard fight
>>127222962
We actually got kinda close on the first time but I got greedy/ careless and got jumped on.
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>From Software forgot to add Guidance level 3 rune ingame
Someone should tell them about this
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>>127221536
stay cross
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>>127222838
>Hitting more than one target for 600+ damage with BMA is so worth it
Shit thinking about this, PR would be fucking GOAT for Watcher slayan, funnel them all down the strairs and bam, 3x BMA's to the fucking face.
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>>127221536
I fucking hate honor fags like you I take it as a personal insult when someone is stupid enough to bow to me when I invade. I'm role playing as a Vileblood scum bag and do not want a fucking duel I want to kill you. If someone is stupid enough to bow near me I slap the shit out of them and kill them. The word "invader" does not imply that I want to have any fucking honor. I've been smashing you fuck boy honor fags since dark souls and it's never gonna change.
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>>127223082
>didn't at the end
Damn, would have been literally perfect.
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>>127222904
Honestly, I think NG+ DLC is harder than depth 5 chalices. Except those fucks summoning the shadows.

>>127223005
>and got jumped on.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHY IT IS HARDER

Solo, if you stand by her tail, and stand still when she jumps then jump will miss you 100% of the time. In co-op, she can change her target and loop around like superman mid flight to crush you. The loop and target changes mean you can't beat her jumps by just standing still.

This is why I wait for hosts to cross the fog gate then blackout when I get summoned to Amy via the SRRC.
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>>127222935
Bc ur bad
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>>127223180
>bow
Fug how does one forget to type an entire fucking word.
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>>127222179
FULL PIC DAMN IT
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>>127223094
>not just R2 charge knockdowning them over and over

>>127223220
desu i only die from jump attacks about 10% of the time, usually it's getting 1 or 2 shot killed
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>>127223082
What is the point of that? Whats the point of invading if not for a good fight?

>>127223271
You only need to learn how to get behind her tail, and you shouldn't die to anything.
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How would you feel about a BB/DS game that had 4 buttons for attacks as opposed to 2.
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>>127221890
>>127223178
wow you are a fucking faggot, kill yourself.
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>>127216650
>tfw I just want to help people but also want the stamina regen

Suffering
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>>127221937
>>127222021

Doing a Queen Killer run and man... I had no idea how much armor helps.

Literally one poison knife fully poisons me
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>>127223360
it's fun, if you want a fair fight attend an fc with blood bullets+no heals.
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>>127223583
I don't want fair fights; I want fun fights.
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>>127222441
BB has no honour because there are no honourable duels. You can only be invaded once you summon help, aside from a few specific times. Every time I have been invaded the invader has run for the mobs. I don't blame them because even 2v1 is "unfair" as far as honour goes. It's not like previous souls games where you can invade a solo host, or invade with a twink loadout. Even the level disparity doesn't really matter that much since it's more about gems and weapon upgrades. I actually like it.

In other souls games If you wanted a proper 1v1 you could get it with the right covenant, it was baked into the game. But for regular invasions it was totally one sided. Since you could twink the fuck out of a character invasions and since there was a stark difference between a PvE and PvP loadout the host was always at a disadvantage. if a host was still making their way through the game they wouldn't stand a chance against an invader, even if they had help, an invader could probably one or two shot them.

If you want honourable duels stop invading hamlet and hiding behind sharkmemes and do fight club. there is no possible scenario where a regular level invasion is an honourable duel.
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>>127223583
if you heal in a fight, kill yourself.

i guess its one thing if you are fighting a boss or have already cleared half an area, but if you are fighting 20 feet from the lamp and you aren't going to lose anything from dying, stop being such a fucking cock sucker and fight fair.
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>>127223082
I'll never understand bowing THAT close to the invader

I myself will always distance myself and wait for them to make a move. If he waves or something I'll wave back, but I'm not stupid enough to leave myself open like that.
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>>127223475
Nah I'll just keep killing shitty honor fags like you. Think I will actually record this one.
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>>127217328
how would 125 not be popular when you can get matched with every single range of 'serious' pvp'er?
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>>127223651
This not to mention invaders lose a big chunk of health. >>127223673
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>>127223673
Anyone have a webm of someone parrying a healer then clapping as they're in the stun animation?
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>all this talk about honourfags
>want to post that ippiki copypasta but don't have it saved anymore and can't find it anywhere in my old copypasta txt files
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>>127223673
>WAAHH FIGHT FAIR
>Calling anyone else a cock sucker
How ironic.
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>>127223220
NG+ dlc is about on par with story depth 5. FRC depth 5 is the next level. Even at bl100 vit 50 regular mobs can one hit you and bosses change dramatically. Moves that would otherwise just hurt a lot are now one shots. Even trash bosses like watcher can get you if you aren't careful and others like the undead giants get one shot moves.
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>>127223440
Fuck right off, cheers.
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>>127222179
delet this
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>>127223576
I actually preferred it when armour was not a game changer. fashion souls is the best, but when wearing the right gear can be the difference between getting hit and getting oneshot is a regular thing, I wear the right gear.
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>>127223651
>BB has no honour because there are no honourable duels. You can only be invaded once you summon help, aside from a few specific times.

Except the host can ring their sinister bell and silence it as soon as the S-Maiden shows up. There would be more of that if invaders weren't such little shits.

>>127223923
See, I think story depth 5 is much, much easier. I have yet to be one shotted in a depth 5 story chalice by any mob on my level 98.
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>>127224014
Sorry, you can't comprehend anything more complex than spamming R1
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>beckoned in to help with merciless watchers
>stand in the doorway so beckoner can't start the fight
>other summon gets trapped behind me
What a time
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>>127223440
But some weapons in BB alraady have 4 buttons to attack

R1, R2, L1 and L2.
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Is there a rusted ring equivalent in Bloodborne or am I trudging through the shit pits in Nightmare Frontier like Kos intended
Also is high poison resist armor actually help
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>>127221536
>why does no one have honor in this game
I have. If you're alone of course. But I never bow first. Always keep distance because of girls like >>127223178 Waving is more safe than bow.
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>mfw walking in on Iosefka on the table
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>>127223795
I'd take the health hit over aggro mobs. Even low level shit hits very hard.
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>>127223440
>>127224080
R1, R2, L1 and L2 in several weapons. BB pretty much already does that. I think the move variety is pretty good as is, only problem is that R1 is always much better than other moves
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Can anyone tell me what kind of build has the easiest time farming gems?

If I'm going to have to farm gems to compete, then I want it to be as simple as possible.
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>>127224172
Poison resistance is most definitely helpful. Resistance runes even moreso. Elemental resistance is also actually important too, especially if you plan on doing CRF Chalices.
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>all these level 100-150 babbies
>not having everything hard capped, walking around at level 250 able to use literally everything in the game with equal proficiency
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>>127224072
I was referring to the FRC one shots. If you can't be one shot in NG+ dlc you probably won't get one shot in chalice depth 5.
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>>127224318
for what porpoise
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>bloodborne has 4 months left to live
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>>127223440
>BB2
>L2+R2
>R1+L1
>L2 charge
>L1 charge
>unparryable special kick attack unique for all weapons
>CHARGE DASH
>CHARGE JUMP
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>>127224212
>only problem is that R1 is always much better than other moves
Not entirely true.

HMLS's R2 is much better than its R1, Hunter's Axe L2's are better than its R1 combo, and Ludwig's L2 can make some difficult bosses a non issue like Defiled Amy and Ebri.

Not to mention, some weapon's transform attacks are quite literally they're best moves (Saif, Saw Spear and Cleaver).
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lol
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>>127224383

don't remind me familia

that being said, das3 looks alright. Has a nice demon souls aesthetic to it.
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>>127224405

There's a charge jump?
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>>127224318
Post your 250BL character.
Pro tip:
You can't
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>>127224440
yeah I regretted saying "always" the moment I submitted, but it's still the case very often
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>>127224159
>>127224212
In all cases any L2 attack is just a projectile or long-ranged attack and I don't consider L1 much of an attack since to get the same attack if you have to switch back again.

Also there are no variations of the L1 and L2 attack, they don't change when you roll, sidestep, run, etc unlike R1 and R2 normal attacks.
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>>127224309
depends on what you are farming. BLT has ranged attacks that hit hard as fuck, so stuff like amygdala is easy with bone ash/bowblade since you can shoot its face. skill has the best visceral, so things like the watchers can be killed like nothing. arc has the auger, which makes parrying fast dangerous stuff like pthrumerians a breeze.
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>"Come, drink my blood, brave hunter"
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>>127224383
>playings souls games after the new one comes out

The dlc pumped life into this, but as of now I'm pretty done. I'm just mucking around because literally no good ps4 games are coming out for ages. Once das3 comes out I will most likely never play BB again, I'll probably even sell it to buy das3 even though I don't need the money.
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Reminder that if you've over level 4 you're a fucking overleveled noob, and you should be easily able to beat NG++++++ at level 4 if you learn your weapon moveset and boss movesets
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>>127224537
>In all cases any L2 attack is just a projectile or long-ranged attack
What the fuck are you on about?
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>>127224595
DELETE THIS HERETIC
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>>127224383

More like 2 weeks to live with DD PC
I don't think I can handle another chalice run, I've thoroughly burnt myself on builds.
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>>127224668
What are you on about? I'm talking about in all cases of weapons that have special L2 attacks that aren't a part of their left hand weapon
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>>127224746
whats dd pc?
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>>127224491
hold on.

okay so im only 234 right now, but in another 16 levels my skill will be at 50 and ill be done leveling. an hour of farming should get me to 250 if i really want to.
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>>127224794
The PC release of Dragon's Dogma.
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>>127224746
>implying majority here didn't play and finish DD already
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>>127224794

dragons dogma pee cee
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God, speedrunning is so autistic.
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>>127224453
sword arts and very little fanservice will save it hopefully. You can have Praise the Sun and Patches, but if I find another fucking paledrake soul the franchise is dead.

>>127224445
gets me

>>127224746
I'd almost build a pc for DD at 60fps with mods, i feel like Bb has enough left in it for me until april
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>>127224828
>>127224846

lmao who cares? what does that have to do with the life of bloodborne
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>>127224832
yeah but playing DD at 60 FPS will be a treat. That game ran like shit, despite being amazing in every other regard
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>>127224440
>sweep better than overhead

it is totally situation dependant. sweep for mobs, overhead for bosses. it's why the saw spear is so shit when tricked. The sweep is only like 90 degrees instead of 180 and it follows up with an overhead so you can't use it to hit bosses up high until the second swing and it's shit for mobs because the sweep is so narrow.
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>>127224893
On the other hand if DS1 and 2 are any indication it will become Cheat Engine Dogma in a week.
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>>127224893
that never hurt the experience. I'd much rather have the MMO.
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>>127224893
Except fast travel
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>>127224832
I've sunk hundreds of hours into DD on PS3 but I'm still gonna play the PC version anyway because holy shit, one of my favourite games of all time running as it should be? Yes please.
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>>127224892
>hasn't played DD

that game is fucking awesome. BB feels like a precise measured puzzle game compared to DD, that game is awesome because it's so fast and the magic is probably the best of any fantasy game to date.
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>>127224746
Wait a sec. I hear PC DD will be "not full " DD as on ps3. Something about Dark Arisen
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>>127224962
That too, which basically completely ruins the experience.
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>>127224893
>>127224832

god fuck maybe it'll get a current gen remaster too, I'd buy it.
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>>127216192
>rom
>him
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>>127224445
I'm confused
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>>127225085
tfw will be getting it on both ps4 and PC if it's any good
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>>127224445
After all these months I still have no clue what message it is this image is trying to convey
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>>127224962
it's SP so who cares if people want to cheat themselves out of a fun game?
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>>127225154
It's trying to imply that the MP sucked her fetus like a juice box.
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>>127225062
Does DD even have PvP?
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>>127225151
I wish I could play it again for the first time. I'll get it again for ps4 when it comes out. DD2 not existing/DD MMO not coming out in the west is an actual crime.
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>beckoner summons me
>hasn't even opened the gate
>activate lever and open gate for him
>he runs into bonus area
Fuck these casual faggots
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>>127224383
Like how DaS 2 killed DaS 1? Or how DaS 1 killed DeS? Quit being a little bitch.
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>>127224785
>Kirk
>Hunter Axe
>Pizza Cutter
>Bloodletter
>Best Claws
>Burial Blade
>Rakuyo

None of these wepons have a 'projectile' or 'long ranged attack' on their fucking L2's you absolute mongoloid. They're either unique AoE's (Bloodletter, Beast Claws with rune), or different angled swings.
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>>127225257
DD is entirely single player, with a unique online component.
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>>127225154

I'm at a loss to be quite honest
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>tfw rapiers in DS3 will never be as cool and good as the threaded cane and Reiters moveset
I love rapiers but fuck they are so boring in Dark Souls
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>>127225178
there are multiplayer elements, such as pawns and UR that will be ruined by cheaters.
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>>127225151
>>127225268
wait is DD is coming to PS4?
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>Someone at Fromsoft thought FW was a good idea
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>>127225325

dropped

no pvp, no care
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>>127224918
>it is totally situation dependant
Yes, but you originally stated the R1 was ALWAYS better than any other attack on every weapon, which is laughably incorrect.
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>>127225387
It's coming to PC, man. Pay attention.
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>>127225387
No, I misread the reply and reply chain and thought they were talking about DS3
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>>127225257
no, you have pawns, basically your npc BFF that you customise as much as you want, then whore out online for other people to hire. You can make your pawn look and behave how you like and kit them out as you see fit, in your own world they accompany you and you can also hire other pawns, so you roll as a team of three if you choose, or you can roll alone.

you can make loli pawns. there are a lot of loli pawns. There are also a lot of lewd outfits.
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>>127225301
The hunter axe L2 has massive range.
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>>127225349
You can't damage ur with hacked characters on consoles though
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>>127225413
>playing Souls games for the PvP
>when bloodborne's PvP is the "worst" of the lot
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>>127225349
you don't need to hire obviously staked pawns and nothing changes UR, as long as you are there at the right time you get the good shit.

Speaking of I wonder where UR is up to nowdays, it probably takes weeks to kill.
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>>127225528
At least it is better than DaS2
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>>127225528

to be clear, I don't play only souls games for the pvp. I only play games period that have pvp.

If the game doesnt have some kind of competitive aspect to it, then I lose interest. I haven't played and beaten a single player only game in a long time.
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>>127225415
I wasn't the one who you were talking to initially.
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>>127225528
what's worse in BB than backstabs? Also the fact that you can't stack poise is pretty nifty.
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>>127225292
>DS2
>DS2
Just stop. Being delusional is not good. BB before dlc already was dead as fuck. It's not DeS. BB has awful CD, gem system and horrible invasion system. We finally get DS3 by Miyazaki.
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>>127225586
You probably don't realise the sheer multitude of stellar games you're missing out on thanks to that amazingly narrow field of interest.
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>>127224445
Is this supposed to be loss.jpg? Pretty good, I had to think about it
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I will never understand multiplayer fags
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>>127225586

I take it you don't play many RPG's then?
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>>127225528
>when bloodborne's PvP is the "worst"
Bloodborne's PvP is legitimately the most balanced. DeS was fun but hilariously broken at times, and DaS1 was outright laughably shit with fucking poise stacking and Hex trash.

DaS2's was pretty good other than the retarded fucking LET ME SIT HERE AND STACK 50 BUFFS THNX and the dogshit phantom hits on loads of weapons.

>>127225634
Yeah well fusorry m8
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>>127225639
I've never played souls really, but I like BB. I hope getting into DaS3 won't be too much of a change, because I'm liking the franchise
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>>127225678

t. lvl 250
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>>127225586
>not playing DD because no pvp

oh child
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>>127225586
>I don't play only souls games for the pvp. I only play games period that have pvp.
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>>127225636
It's already been highlighted in this very thread, actually. There's the fact that invaders suffer a 30% HP penalty and the fact that, barring very few circumstances, you'll never get a 1v1 encounter and even then, most of those 1v1 encounters will still favour the host due to HP advantages.
Plus, there's literally zero reward for PvP covenants either, unless you count emotes.
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>>127225765
t. basement dweller
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>>127225837
>>127225791

I don't see the issue. PvP is fun.
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>>127225586
>I only play games period that have pvp.
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>>127225758
The fact DaS has shields will change everything, or I guess change everything back. I'm pretty sure miyazaki has stated that online will work similar to BB, what with how bells work vs summon signs. I like that. It's way better to ring a bell and just wait, rather than constantly have to try and rush to a sign before some other dickbag does.
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>>127225747
>Bloodborne's PvP is legitimately the most balanced
>unpunishable parry spam
>most balanced
No matter how I like BB pvp, there a lot of bullshit. Like no stake driver hyper armour and spin2win hyper armour
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>>127225879
>>127225765
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>>127225859
Ye you have a point, the HP is dumb and the fact that you can't invade from the get go and the circumstances are so specific is a bit frustrating. The combat itselfi s much better though, and under the right circumstances, like fight clubs, it's more than enjoyable, at least for me
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>>127226002
we?
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>>127225586
>to be clear, I don't play only souls games for the pvp. I only play games period that have pvp.
>If the game doesnt have some kind of competitive aspect to it, then I lose interest. I haven't played and beaten a single player only game in a long time.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>127225639
Pfft, so what, Bloodborne doesn't meet your standards because there weren't enough meme builds and horrid metas churned out by this shitty community?
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>>127225928
you missed out on DD, due to lack of PvP. you done fucked up.
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>>127226045

Uhh, different people have different interests? I enjoy playing against other players. I don't find it fun to fight AI all day.
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>>127226118
i don't even like video games tbqh
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>>127226002
How do I into alberto barbosa build?
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>>127226118
But in this case your tastes have cut you off from a myriad of fun experiences, solely because they lack a competitive aspect.
In other words: you're wrong and you should feel bad.
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>>127226118

Just finding it strange why you would pick BB for your pvp game when multiplayer in souls games have always really been an afterthought.
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>>127226118
Why not just fight people irl then?
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>Not sure if I should change my 98 skill build to 125 quality/arc build
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>>127225979
>unpunishable parry spam
>what is wooden shield

Also having an actual resource tied to parrying is still ultimately far more balanced than that god damn awful dagger in DaS2.

The only time parry fishing is actually broken in BB is Reiterfags being shields. and then again you simply switch to your shield and refuse to even make contact with them until they stop being gigantic faggots.
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>>127226090
>meme
>metas
>shitty community
What the fuck? Are you fighting against invisible /dsg/ or what?
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only 15 more levels.
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>>127226319

>quality/arc

If you're going to level arc, go big or go home. 50 or bust
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>>127225747
>dash r1 of a weapon being the deciding factor in how good a weapon is in pvp
>unpunishable parry spam
I'm not saying Bloodborne's PVP is worse than any of the other games because I hate PVP in all of the games. There's always one or two things that fuck it all up every single time.
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>>127226339
naw the souls pvp communities have always been cancer
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>>127225979
nothing is more broken that das1 backstabs, poise stacking, and motherfucking dark bead turtling. literally 2 or 3 beads off a dark bead blast could 1 shot you from 50vit with favour ring.

then there was tranquil walk of peace pre-patch, wrath of gods, flipping havelmoms and giantdads.. das1 was absolute cancer.
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>>127226339
That describes the entire community, not just /dsg/. Still didn't answer the question though.
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>>127226336
Who cares about DS2? And
>wooden shield
Being shitter is not better than parry spammer/fisher. Parry is still unpunishable
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I'm at the pvp chalice but I'm not getting any invasions. The shit
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Sup /bbg/, I'm about to start grinding in 5pwuj if anyone wants to join. Pass will be bbgfat.
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>>127226467
>>dash r1 of a weapon being the deciding factor in how good a weapon is in pvp
But that's false. Saif, Saw weapons, Moonlight Sword, Rakuyo and many more have relatively weak dash R1's and much, much better standard R1's or L1's and R2's.

Chikage is also a weapon with a pathetic dash R1, it's best move is the unzip.

The only weapons that are quailty of what you claim are Wheel, Bloodletter and arguably Hunter's Axe.

>>127226660
>Being shitter is not better than parry spammer/fisher.
>using an item that was created to counter something effectively is being a shitter
>but fuck that I'm not gonna use it then come and bitch and moan like a whiny faggot!
You're mentally deficient.

>Parry is still unpunishable
Wooden shield literally punishes parry fishing faggots because it makes them waste their F I N I T E parry resource on your shield.
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>>127226438
Do you even get matchmaking at that stupid level?
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What will the Hunter become when he grows up?
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>>127226598
What is your question?
BB was dead before DLC. Fact
A lot of people dropped pvp in BB because CD/gem shit. Fact.
More people = lively online. Fact
I don't really care about /dsg/ boogeyman (except pc shitposters) or community. I just invade or summon.
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>>127226524
das1 was meta as fuck within weeks of release, there was no natural pvp. You either levelled yourself/had levelled gear, or you got dunked on.

mfw I used ginatdad build without every hearing about it online

and I'm a shitter, I just looked at very obvious stats and put it together and fucking wrecked people who were just playing through NG, people who actually had pvp setups were still at a disadvantage, nevermind when ninja ring was a thing.
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>>127226773
the meme pvp dungeon is a root dungeon and surprisingly 4chan/reddit is not a very big part of the fanbase. it's not populated. fuck that shit off.
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>>127226660
>complains about parry fishing
>is given a solution
>refuses to use said solution
>continues complaining
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Hardest Boss excluding DLC?
Easiest Boss excluding DLC?

GO!!

PS. Why is wet nurse so fucking easy?
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>>127226660
parry is unpunishable, but also limited unless you just let him get blood bullets over and over
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>>127227416

Hardest for me: Logarius/Paarl
Easiest: Hemwick
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>>127227416
>hardest
Loran Camerabeast
>easiest
Witches
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>>127226660
>Shown how Parry is punishable
>'Fuck you. I'm not doing that, so it's still unpunishable'

That's like saying every attack in the game is unavoidable because you don't like dodging
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>>127226994
Okay, listen. Wooden shield is just "left handed weapon". It's not game mechanic. You need to wear wooden shield if you want "punish" parry. Otherwise you're not available to punish parry. You use artificial item. Parry is still unpunishable if you don't use special item. I hope you're not havelmomshitter and understand what I mean
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what's a good place to invade solo players besides Mensis/Frontier? I'm getting tired of the décor
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>>127227067
If not being even a fraction as cancerous as other Souls games in terms of online means being "dead", then yes, Bloodborne has been dead on arrival.
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>>127227416
>Hardest Boss excluding DLC?
For me? Pthumerian Descendant. Honourable mention goes to Loran Darkbeast for the sheer volume of Blood Vials I go through each time I fight one.

>Easiest Boss excluding DLC?
Probably Witch of Hemwick Or Mergo's Wet Nurse.
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>>127227321
>refuses to use said solution
>continues complaining
But I'm parry fisher.
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>>127227598
Hamlet
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>>127227416
Hardest: Ebrietas
Easiest: Witches
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>>127227416
Hardest: Paarl
Easiest: Keeper of the Old Lords
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>>127227596
You can always, you know, dodge the shots?

This is like bitching about 'unpunishable' magic spam in DaS, then refusing to roll through every single one of his casts or just LoS'ing him to piss him off until he stops being a faggot.

If you want to 'punish' magic in DaS1, you needed either a magic resist shield, or an Avelyn. Both 'tools' and not mechanics as you stated.
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>>127227921
Okay. BB PVP is glorious and well balanced. And don't call turtle Reiter broken. Just learn to punish them instead of being bad in this game.
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>>127228256
I already called Reiter/shieldfags broken as fuck in my earlier post m8, don't be such a bootyblasted little fuccboi.
>>
man i love peer to peer
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Alright I'm gonna pump a few points into arc to try out wheel and MLGS. Are blunt gems best for wheel?
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>>127228351
>Reiter/shieldfags
>broken
Punish them. Use Church Pick L2 m8
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Fyi Wanderer these pieces of shit do drop from 5pwuj, so I assume murky gems drop also. This is only a rarity 17 too
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>>127228514
>tfw still haven't tried out Church Pick yet
Got any webums lad?
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>>127228623
Nah, I just tricked you. But theoretically it should work. Never meet turtle shitters when I use Church Pick
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>>127227416
Loran Dark Beast in a FRC dungeon with a pit in the middle or the sides-with water on the ground.
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>>127228906
>Loran Darkbeast in a room with water on the ground
This can't exist, it'd be too hilarious
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>>127228565
So I just had supremely shit luck, then. Thanks for confirming for me, appreciate it.
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>>127228893
>Nah, I just tricked you
You little mememaster.
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>>127228995
I got one where you can roll of the sides and die, I bet you can somehow roll an arena with center pit.
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>>127228995
it does and it hurts
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>>127229046
tfw 3am and still no arc gem, time for seppuku. or a sleep
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wow the PVP in this game really does suck ass massively
>lag
>lag
>r1 spammers
>gankers
>lag
>getting 2-3 shot killed
>>
so is the pizza cutter the absolute best PvE weapon?
makes the dlc bosses a meme
>>
>2 minutes without a post
>bbg on seventh page

Sometimes I forget how active this board is.

Also, unrelated:
Links to good bloodborne speedruns?
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>>127226523
That's just untrue. The community was great for Demon's souls. It did get very shitty very fast though, It was actually pretty distressing watching it happen.
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>>127229387

We're past the bump limit m80
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>>127229321
welcome to BBPvP, you can join the club and pick up a wheel or get EZ fragged like a froob
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>>127229387
santzo84 @ twitch is streaming right now and he's the current WR holder
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>>127229259
Live to fight again another day.
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>>127229321
You can come get 3 shot by us white Americans with little lag in 6cb.
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>>127229439
oh le nostalgia goggles meme
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Anyone on PS4 want to help my lvl50 character beat logarius?
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>>127229487
>>127229568
How do I connect to PVP dungeons?
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>>127228256
>BB PVP
>effective
>glorious
Top meme m8
Dank Souls is better desu senpai.
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>>127229710
laughable
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>>127229665
Just get the pthumeru root dungeon chalice, then search for the chalice code in the OP 6cb7ieey I think.
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>>127229507
Oh, wow. Lucky me. Thanks!
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>>127229627
I only have bb on pc sorry.
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>>127229627
Sorry man, most of us here got the wii u version.Actually wish I could help you though, just be patient.
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>>127229627
kek post the password you dummy, I'll cum
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>>127229627
The password...
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>>127229746
Do people actually use this all the time or just Saturdays?
>>
Anywhere better to farm bloodstone chunks now that the DLC is out?
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>>127229851
>>127229935
Congrats, you got the joke
>>127230031
>>127230112
Pass is tym8
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>>127230345

Chalice dungeons are still the best place to get them.
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>>127230345
Better than the almost guaranteed chances from certain Chalice dungeons? No. Go farm jemmjmpi's first layer boss for a while. Usually drops one chunk, occasionally drops 2.
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>>127230450
MERELY

PRETENDING
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>>127230450
Wow you sure fooled us, fag
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What weapon would he use?
>>
>>127230450
>>
does anyone else hate how stupid namco bandai makes the collector's editions of the dark souls series? dark souls 2 had a terrible giant ugly statue and now dark souls 3 has another similarly ugly and strangly posed statue. bloodborne had such a nice $80 simple box, with nice steelcase and artbook. it's my favorite collector's edition of any game i own.

unrelated, is anyone currently farming phys gems from watchers in isz or ihyll? please allow me to join. i can barely solo them on my twink.
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>>127230917
Nice cosplay, tym8
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>>127230965
Do you get drops as a cooperator? holy shit
>>
>>127230965

I wasn't planning on farming them, but I'll make some Isz ones if you want. Just lemme know when you're ready and what password you want to use.
>>
>>127230965
I've been grinding out gems in 5pwuj for a while here. I'll set up a pass in a moment, if you'd like.
>>
>>127230965
I really hope they bring the old hunters edition to the west, but I strongly doubt that'll happen. I could just import, but it's not really the same
>>
>>127231050
Yes, just not the Chalices.
>>
Are blunt gems good for Whirligig Saw untricked?
>>
>>127206374
So, uh, how much am I missing out on not playing online? On the one hand, no messages, no co-op and I'm doing everything solo unless there's NPC summon, but I also can't be invaded, which I don't really mind not having to deal with.
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>>127231003
Any time, dude.
>>
>people healing in the copy pasta fight club

What gives? Is this shared with reddit or something?
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>>127231353
>summoning ever
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How the hell do you use the beast cleaver? It has shit damage and shit scaling, but I really want to use it.
>>
>>127231109
yes please.

>>127231065
i'll join the other anon if you don't need anything from them, thanks.
>>
How many people ITT frequently use a sub level 85 character for anything other than low level twinking?
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>>127231573

Yeah, I'll just join the other guy.
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>>127231573
Alrighty then. Pass is bbgfat, I'll be ringing momentarily.
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Show me your most insane arcane damage /bbg/. A friend of mine told me that a call beyond was shit, will you let him say shit ?
>>
>>127231481
>not bringing Alfred with you for bro-tier beast slaying
>>
I just killed someone in the copy pasta fight club and now they're sending me screenshots of their level 544 hunter??????
Fucking Asians man
>>
>>127231457

its not even 6 pm yet

>>127231813

a call beyond is shit against people who can dodge, however, it one shots people who don't dodge correctly.
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>>127231652
i'm ringing now. also we need a new thread!

>>127231583
probably very little. i don't see level 80 meta characters anymore.
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>>127231813

I've dealt over 6k damage against CRF hotdog with that spell. I always unleash it once I break its armor.
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someone get the thread
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>>127231874
I was not even talking about pvp actually, but you're right
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>>127231813
>>
So I wanted to see if there was some nice Bloodborne parodies on youtube, I stumbled on this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGofzK1DGds
Funny little thing, but what caught my attention was the cleric beast remix, it was pretty epic when it progressed. Does anyone know if that's a remix available someplace?

Regardless I did find two other neat Metal remixes, although not better then the original but still pretty rad!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-KDhmhbJTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-IucQeSc1g
>>
>>127231628
>>127231652
did you hunters begin without me?
>>
>>127230490
>>127230502
Dammit I'm not that far on chalice dungeons, I used the werewolf method in upper cathedral

I use to get like 5-10 chunks every 30 mins now I hardly get any idk whats up
>>
>>127232448

Nope. We're still waiting.
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>>127232486
hm, got no idea why it's not sending me over there. i'm ringing bbgfat in 5pwujscd, near lampstone. i guess i'll try moving around.
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>>127232017
>>127232140
Now we're talking. Show me more of your power, space wizards
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>>127232604

We were in the corridor leading to the boss. Perhaps that's why you weren't summon.

>sinister bell resonates with another
>poke the guy twice with my pick
>dead

what is vit
>>
>>127232458
You could get one or two chunk every minute if you did Chalice dungeons, man. Seriously, the boss in question is a Brainsucker and even though it's a boss version, it's still very easy to kill. Get your shit together, unlock CRF dungeons and you'll be drowning in Chunks.
Blood Rocks however are a lot rarer. There's only 3 guaranteed ones you can get outside of the main game and DLC, and the rest drop rarely from depth 5 layer 3/4 bosses.
>>
new
>>127232989
>>127232989
>>127232989
>>127232989
>>127232989
new
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>>127232486
joyous tempering! except it's +31.5 arcane attack. rip

also @knight character, what is that weapon you're using? i think it's one of the few ones i haven't actually used.
>>
>>127233058

I was using the Church Pick. It's one of my favorite weapons.
>>
Is BL98 still the bbg approved meta circle jerk?
And is fightclub stoll BL98?
>>
>>127233052
I wish rocks didn't cost 60 fucking Insight. I'd happily grind echoes to pay 60,000 for one of them.
>>
just co-op'd with a guy who looked like a wolf, how does one achieve that effect
>>
Would anyone be willing to help me fight Cursed Amygdala? Pw: bbg123
>>
if I ring a sinister bell in a chalice dungeon, will I invade on ANY layer or just the one I'm on?
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>>127227852
The Celestial Emissary is definitely easier than the Keeper of the Old Lords, which isn't hard anyway.
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