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T-they will patch it edition

>What is Grim Dawn
Grim Dawn is an ARPG made by a few left over developers from Iron Lore Entertainment who also made Titan Quest along with with a few other devs including one D1/D2 designer. Currently you can't really pirate it because it it breaks NPCS and quests (custom DRM I'm guessing) but there is a DRM free version planned for launch.

>What are some features
Dual Class System
Faction-Based Questing
Refined Loot Drops
300+ Hero Monsters
Destructible Environments
Dynamic Weather
Recipe-Based Crafting
Modding Tools (Future)
DRM Free Version (At launch in February 2016)
More here http://www.grimdawn.com/guide/about/featurelist.php

>FAQ
http://www.grimdawn.com/guide/about/faq.php

>Game Guide
http://www.grimdawn.com/game.php

>Wiki
http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Grim_Dawn_Wiki

>Advanced mechanics
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23720

>Store Page
http://store.steampowered.com/app/219990/
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>>127054897

Also, I just entered an area and got a message that went something like "a powerful presence dwells here". Should I turn around?
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2st for internal trauma
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>>127053691
Yeah, that's why my favorite prefix is "Incorruptible". Poison, Aether and Chaos with damage reflected. Too bad that never drops with what you want.

>>127054912

If you die you will be locked out from that place for your current playthrough, so you'll lose a couple of thousand XP at most. You need a blood of Ch'thon with Corpse Dust and Ectoplasm.

>>127055009
It means the enemies are like 6 levels higher than you. Nothing that should be "too" hard for you. You will find a one shot chest in there, so it could be worthwhile.
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>>127055326
Ah, no worries then. Mowing down lvl 19 mobs at lvl 13. Whatever the boss of Depraved Sanctuary is might prove to be a problem though.
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>start off as a demo
>wrecking shit with canister bombs/fire shot
>eventually max out mastery
>decide to pick occultist as a second class because pets might serve as some good meatshields for my bombs and rifle
>they're utterly useless at this point unless you you max out their skill trees
Great, what the shit do I do with this class now? I don't think I'll really want to put points in anything outside the demolitionist skill tree for quite a while, but then what?
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>>127055513
Just remember to move out of his Sigil of Consumption spell, and you'll ace it.
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>>127055513
Fuck, I remember that guy. He has an insane amount of HP. Get ready for a long fight.
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Candence or Fire shot?
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>>127055581
the raven heal is really good even with just 1 point in it since it has scaling hp% heal and he spams it so it's like health regen, granted he won't tank for you but at least he won't be useless like a 1 point hound
curse of frailty is also really good for ranged characters if you want to kite
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>>127057137
Yeah, I do a lot of kiting. Considering replacing my flashbang with that, seems like it might be more reliable.
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Is it worth going Battlemage and going for Elemental + Physical damage with Iskandra's Elemental Exchange and Overload even if I don't plan on investing much, if at all, in Spirit? Or would it end up being a waste of points better spent elsewhere?
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im bored
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>>127057132

I am also interested in this
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>>127055581
Well, maximize Curse of Frailty and Vulnerability for a start. That spell is your best friend for ranged and kiting.
You can then add Sigil of Consumption and upgrade Destruction.
You could also put 1 point into the raven and then putting points into Mend Flesh and maximizing Storm Spirit. A nice passive elemental resistance and damage.
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>>127057132
>>127057421
Melee or ranged? I like Cadence more. It's better with less skill point investment. Fire Strike takes a shitload of points before becoming good.
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Im a two handed user, what would be my options as far as cross classing goes.

Im pretty comfy with just going pure soldier but idk if theres anything I should snap up
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>>127057983
shaman is obvious and thats about it
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>>127057132
Fire Strike for ranged and Cadence for melee.

>>127057983
If you like 2 handed go Shaman. Turn into a god of lightning exploding limbs. If you wanna stay Soldier, at least max Cleave or Cadence.
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>>127057619

Ranged, wanna do a gun build, dual pistols down the line

I've heard a lot of good things of Candence over fire shot
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>>127058315

cleave?
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>>127058315
>>127058272

If I go shaman, is briathorn worth it? or do pets need devotion/gear to work
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>>127058432
I use Cadence with my ranged build and it works wonders.
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>>127058549
I meant Blade Arc.

>>127058851
Nope, pets are only useful if you invest on pet bonuses.
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Is soldier/demo a viable build? Seems like fun to be super tanky and throw out grenades
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so im in the skeleton key dungeon in the broken hills and this merchant is offering a chain of oleron for 12000 dollarydoos, is this something I should buy?
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what the best setup for tanking, damage reflection and possibly aoe damage over time?
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Anyone want to start new characters in multi?
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>>127059250
Sure, but you'll be tankier if you go Soldier/Arcanist.
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>>127059325
If you have 12k dollarydoos, sure. If you don't have much money, then nah, you'll find more of them over the course of the game (And I'm pretty sure you're gonna use something more defensive when you get closer to endgame anyway)
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>still no working pirate copy
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>Enter Ultimate
>Don't even pay attention to my resists, because I've blazed through Elite with no problems
>Meet the first poison mobs
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>>127059250
Like Titan Quest, every build combination can be valid here.

>>127059658
It's just 15$ anon.
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>>127059325
Only if you have like a couple hundred k spare. You'll be swimming in components from normal playing, bounties and salvaging.
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>>127060179
15 dollars in your world is 15 dollars in my world
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>kill the spider queen in homestead
>2 yellow pieces
>go to open the 1 time chest right next to her
>3 yellow pieces

ffs give me gear pls ;___;
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>>127061554
thats pretty deep anon
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>finally get quest to go into Hargate's laboratory
>mfw reading his journal entries
I know they ripped off the end from Full Metal Alchemist, but still.
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>>127061841
It's my birthday today.
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grim new year, /gdg/
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>>127062239
Grim new year, Anon.
May the year be filled with good loot and the mindless slaughter of the ch'thonic fiends!
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I CANT BELIEVE I DID IT

fucking kiting this asshole using nothing but shockwave I used around 40 life juice boxes
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>>127062385
>Look at your position
>Be confused about what's so special with that location
>See the loot
Oh.
Good job Anon, that must've taken a while.
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>>127062575

no idea, I fell into a sort of concentration trance

the fucker could practically 3 hit me with his basic attacks and the constant freezing was terrifying
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Happy new year everyone!

>>127062385
Congratz man. You the guy from the last topic? You sure earned all them blue items.
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>>127062859

yep

Its sort of strange being back on the surface, every single encounter in that place could shred me so I inched through it
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Anything I should know before fighting Log?
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It's a shame they didn't have a little more money for voice acting beyond "oy'll give ya a good proice on whuh I go' left" and those cringeworthy female shopkeepers that sound like one of the developer's girlfriend or something.
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>>127064043
bosses voices are great imo
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>>127064043
i once kill a zombie in he say: thisis only the begining.
in a creepy voice
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>>127064129
The Warden sounded like a Saturday morning cartoon villain. I'm not sure if that's good or bad.
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>>127064906
>My true powaaarghhh
The dialogue was cheesy as hell but that boss battle music was glorious.
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>>127064906
I'd say he sounds more like a typical JRPG villain and it's no wonder he has a final form considering that.
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Does leveling soldiers become faster at some point? This is agonizingly slow
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>>127065191

How is it slow? I just started a soldier first time and have been leveling pretty decently, altho I'm only at level 24
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>>127065191
Pure soldier is beyond dull. Won't get interesting until you start speccing into another mastery.
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>>127065664
Compared to my arcanist, demo and shaman this feels like I'm leveling at like 1/3 the speed. The damage I'm putting out is just so low, maybe this improves past a certain level though
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>>127066123

are you using cadence?
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>>127066078
>>127066123

im at level 34 and two hander soldier is a ton of fun, annihilating groups with shockwaves and shit

Unrelated, should I tell mornay about elsa
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>>127066381
I never have, so please do and tell me what happens

>>127066342
yes and zoltans technique
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>>127066623

alright, I just did.

Then I told him not to chase after her and he basically said "ok lad I won't" and thats that.

Maybe I should of encouraged him to go after her, was expecting to get into an argument or something.
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>>127066623

Dunno what to tell you then, must just have a shit weapon
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>>127066919
Next time I get to that part ill encourage him. I would've expected some kind of protest as well, that's sort of boring

>>127067512
I definitely do, just waiting until I can unlock grenades in the demo tree
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Smugglers pass or twin falls?
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>>127067689
Smugglers pass
Whether you want to or not
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>>127067689
The bridge is always broken for me, never been to twin falls once
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>>127057360
why wouldn't you invest in spirit if you plan on incorporating elemental damage?
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>>127059658
>stealing from small, independent game developers

it's like you want EA/ActiBlizz to win.
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>>127061554
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So what class should I go for in my first playthrough?
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>>127059658
a team 9 work their ass off for 5 years to give us on of the best arpg to date thats is as 50% disccount in steam and you want to pirate it.
merry fucking christmas
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>>127069519

what kind of character do you want to play senpai
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>playing on anything other than Hardcore Veteran
absolute plebitude.
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>>127069735
I dunno. I'm pretty much open to any kind of character. I guess just looking a really fun class to play.
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>>127069760

go back to poeg
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>>127069912
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27287

You can look through here to find builds that suit you, maybe?

>>127069760
I have a softcore character with 0 deaths, how is this any different to a hardcore character?
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>>127069912

demo is pretty bombastic and fun if you just want to blow shit up while still being pretty versatile

but you have to give me something to work with man, you wanna melee? caster? ect
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>>127070102
You won't lose a character that you invested dozens of hours in, you filthy casual.
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>>127070227
>Implying I'll die on this character
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>>127069760
What is the appeal to hardcore anyway?

>put 11-12 hours into a character
>get stuck on some shitty corner and get 1 shot by a boss

no thanks
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>>127070227
I bet you aren't even playing hardcore hardcore. No classes, just auto attacking. pleb.
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>>127070394
You forgot fists only.

I kinda hope that they'll add a pugilist class in the expansion.
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>>127070508
That would be interesting.
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>>127070168
>>127070102
Well I guess I'll go with whatever has the most absurd DPS and fuck everything else.
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>>127070394
>Not playing an unarmed Muscle Wizard
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>have game since summer '14
>play through with Soldier main and play new content every time a new Build is applied
>highest leveled alt is barely into Act II

>make new character because CONTENT COMPLETE and because waiting for friends to start playing again so I can remake my 2H Soldier into a Soldier/Shaman from scratch
>have over 24 hours in the game over ~3 days so far and already almost halfway into Act III
>granted, I play kind of slow and I have to explore everything but also idled a bit if I was looking for new threads to post in, posting/lurking, and sometimes even stopping to fap
I can't even explain it. Maybe because this character (Spellbreaker) is more fun and immersive to play than my first alt (Summoner)? Who knows but goddamn procs on procs nigga Veteran is fucking TOUGH
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>>127070768
>still needing equipment
get gud fag
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Is a conjurer fun, or do you just stand there while your pets fuck everything up?
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>>127071158
wish i could play elite ;__;

too bad im an altoholic and will never finish the game
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>>127071986
I'm not looking forward to it since everybody says Elite kicks your fucking ass. ;_; That's already happening to me a bit.
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does phantasmal blades use attack speed or cast speed?

Also if i equip a weapon that gives me a % chance to convert a percent of attack damage to health, will it proc?
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>>127066623
>>127066919

If you tell him to go and find her, you can later find him dead in one of the troll camps . That's it.

>>127071986
>>127072335

Elite really isn't that different from normal veteran. You just need to upgrade your equipment to have some more resistances stuff. DPS isn't everything, it's sometimes better to lower your damage for survivability.
This also applies to normal on some cases.

>>127071521
It's fun when you see all the amazing legendary drops, from running around effortlessly and seeing everything explode around you. I mean, just now, i did 6 elite runs of SoT, including Moosilauke 5 times, and I got 2 duplicate legendaries!
..... I should have used the time to level my warder

....
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>>127071986
but do you have fun with it, anon?
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Are there better droprates on Veteran for good items? Seem to recall reading that ages ago but can't find it now.

Otherwise I'll just wait until I get my character to 20ish and have a decent build going before switching to Veteran. Normal us just quicker to get through the early part of Act 1 and get to the good part.
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>>127073180
Right, already encountering some bits where I should probably have higher resists, or even flat armor. Some of my gear is low-20s blues and I'm L38 but I rarely find upgrades either.
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>>127073201
Yes I have a lot of fun with this game. 100 hours in and not a single character over 40.

>>127073180
interesting. How about ultimate?
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>>127069519
Which class has the highest DPS?
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It took me 5 minutes to kill this asshole
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>>127073770

>taking that long to kill a reanimator

how
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>Multiplayer allows you to connect with old friends or make new enemies in co-op and pvp modes.
>Multiplayer allows you to make new enemies in co-op

is multi actually in the game rn btw.
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>>127073897
I DON'T KNOW
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>>127073897
He's a unique, he's just starting out with garbage equipment, and he's probably being extra careful due to playing hardcore.
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>>127073405
Veteran gives you more heroes = more drops.

>>127073429
You could also use components and relics. also never hurts to do some quick runs on areas that spawn lots of heroes, like bug hive, east marsh, SoT and arkovian undercity.

>>127073498
If you don't have most resistances on at least 40%+. you will suffer. ALOT. Just from a physical perspective, some shitty yelllow aetherial soldier critted me for 4k, and i'm a shield using blademaster. Enemies also have a shit ton of HP and defenses. Anyhow, try to get as much OA and DA as you can get, total damage and such on suck in comparison.

>>127073575
Lots of classes can reach that, but most of combinations have Arcanist as one of the two classes. I think highest achievable is a Warlock( occultist and arcanist) using a dreegs evil eye build.
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>>127073770
Use that skill on your left click not right click
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Whens a good time to switch to veteran
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>>127073498
>Yes I have a lot of fun with this game.
Then that's all that matters, anon :^)
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>>127074664
lvl 1
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>>127074363
Using a Relic now--don't have the mats to make a better one--and using some components. I'm still squishy but it might be due to Veteran too. I didn't play my original character on Veteran so the difficulty increase is very noticeable.

I actually haven't done SoT on this character yet. Also gotta run back to the Derp Hives because I forgot about Den of the Lost my first time there. I think I'm rushing to the end and the new B29 content I haven't seen yet. However, only optional places I haven't ran on this guy is SoT, that C'thonian side dungeon with Salazar, that small side dungeon in the Drowned Passage, and that's it so far.

Side question: Did Tyrant's Hold not have a portal?
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>>127074664
at the main menu
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>>127074664
normal is too easy to feel good about playing it

veteran kicked my ass at some points though
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>>127074664
I always started with veteran from the start, never did normal playthrough. I think it's better if you do so, you learn how to cope with the different heroes and such, and you'll need to take more care of your defenses.

almost all the people that seem to suffer from the end boss or the start of epic are the ones who only played normal.

>>127074825
The boss in the Den of the Lost can drop some amazing rings. And no, there was no portal in Tyrant's hold, closest one is pine barrens. It's also a good farming run. Kill the manticore, go to the cave and kill ol' bloodbrair, drop into the spider cave, and finish in tyrant's hold. 4 bosses, a good number of heroes, and a chance to get manticore eyes.

I'll also add something I forgot earlier, that the best way to play epic and ultimate "safe" is using a shield. pretty sure they will nerf shields soon.
with some item, devotion and skills combinations, you can reach 100% block with 100% recovery time. which really makes some big chunks of the game trivial.
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Is night's chill still OP
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Turtle shell (from turtle devotion)
Menhir's Will
Blast Shield
Overguard

Any other skills I need to make me super tanker?
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>>127075304
Yep, it'll probably replace one of my shitty ones plus gotta grab the Shrine.

That's a long farm run. I got to Tyrant's Hold itself last night but got tired and went to bed. Ungoliax and Bloodbriar were surprisingly easy.
What are Manticore eyes for?
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>>127075991
>kill it
>not even boss drops
>an Ancient Heart and a rare
Okay.
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>>127075892
Go through the devotion skills and look for ones that proc on block. Anvil is nice, Autumn Boar looks good too but I haven't gotten it yet.
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>>127075892
A couple of good devotions, like shieldmaiden, autumn boar, anvil, crab, obelisk of menhir, dryad and such on.

>>127075991
Lots of relics need it. I have about 7 that do so far.

>>127076162
I've gotten a legendary from a shitty normal zombie at the gates of devil's crossing, that was killed by the guards.
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>>127076784
I like how they seem to have upped blueprint drop rates too.
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Only legendary I've gotten
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>>127078097
What makes up elemental damage? Just cold and fire? Lightning also?
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>Get this drop on my tanky firewall grenadier build
>Respec some skills to use it better
>High OA, High crit, High Fire&Lightning Damage and Retaliation
>ETERNAL FIRE RAINING DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS

And that's the story of how I ascended to a Paladin of God's Wrath.

http://grimcalc.com/build/Ujb238
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>>127075991
> that's a long farm run

I missed this part. too tired I guess.
I always do long runs, I prefer to get as many bosses and areas as I can, to lower the chances of getting duplicates.
I start on burrowitch and take on the hoarder from the festering lair and then I go down for gutworm, I managed to get an ancient heart from the duo every 4th run. Continue on to east marsh and kill the 3 guys there, off to sunken reliquary and shambler, from there to cronley's and I continue like that covering the world clockwise.

>>127077660
yeah, used to be such a pain getting them.
Nemesis chests also seem to always drop at least one blueprint, at least they did so far.

>>127078097
I actually got that earlier today. gotten about another 15 since this picture, though some have been duplicates. I have 3 god damn meat shields and fiendscale jackets.

>>127078664
Lightning as well.
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ive lost all motivation to play. this kind of game has no more longevity for me
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>>127078769
Oh shit I haven't done Gutwurm yet. Should go and do that shortly.
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>>127078664
Hahaha, I have no idea, I just started playing two days ago.
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>>127078664
Flat elemental damage deals one third of each of fire, cold and lightning. So if something deals a flat 21 elemental damage, it in reality deals 7 fire damage, 7 cold damage, and 7 lightning damage.
+% elemental damage is a bonus that's applied to all three damage types, regardless of whether the damage comes from flat elemental or one specific type (Just like +% total damage is a bonus that applies to all types of damage)
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>kiting the SoT boss with a Firestrike 2H rifle Demo
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>>127078891
There seems to be a bug with his drops, other the the occasional heart, he doesn't drop anything anymore. His chest is fine though.

>>127078776
Maybe one day you'll feel like returning to this genre. In the mean time, enjoy the new year and cheer up.

>>127079465
One of my first characters was an Aether based arcanist. It took me close to 30 minutes to kill the herald of flame.
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>>127079992
Yeah he only dropped the Heart, and I got a blueprint and a bunch of yellows from the chest. Meh.
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http://grimcalc.com/build/rxKIdw

storm touched increases attack speed but for how long

And for stormcaller's pact is it 33% for each item listed thereafter?

also critique my berserker build please
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>>127080087
The heart is a better long term investment. Some of the advanced non relic blueprints also require monster materials, like the helm of justice legendary which requires six fucking hearts.

Goodnight everyone, may good drops befall you this year.
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So... what is piercing damage? I thought Blast Shield would absorb melee damage but obviously not. Is it just arrows?
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is dreeg's evil eye any good
whats a good place to find builds
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I really hope all these FPS drops are fixed with full release.
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>>127080157
>raising all your skills 10 points over the cap
Try again.
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>>127081606
Isn't that possible? Something about Ultimate points or some shit?
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>>127070768
>tfw no Monk unarmed style class

I suppose there's hoping for the expansion
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>>127083282

That's the cap from points gained through gear. Basically if you're capped out and get something that gives like +1 to all skills, you'd have gotten one ultimate point on that skill.
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>>127083762
Oh, I see.
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>>127080872
DEE builds can really shine with the new devotion system. I personally bound scorpion sting to DEE. Also be sure to get gear and devotion nodes that boost poison and acid damage. Combine that with frailty and you're good
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>finding out at level 50 that skills like Force Wave and Phantasmal Blades attack speed rate is affected by casting speed %
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>>127088441
What, like their cd?
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>>127081606

http://grimcalc.com/build/2TD9wR

Is this better?
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>>127069760
>>127070102
>>127070338

>filename

plebs

inb4 >conjurer
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>>127090310
>pet build

almost had me there for a sec friend
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>>127091067
I'll be there with another build soon.
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>>127091546
What spell is that?
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>>127092931
Conflagration it's a relic.
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>>127088651

The rate at which you can use those spammable skills with no cd, even if they deal weapon damage
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so when will the early access end?
i was watching this game for the past 2 years but i dont want to get it on early access
also page 10 bump
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>>127097749
Full release February. Game is content complete as of now, just fixing a few bugs prior to release.

Keep the thread alive guys
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Just died at level 42 on my Hardcore, someone give me a new class to play
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>>127098423
Demo/Soldier become the fire knight.
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Savagery on shaman. That next ability on his tree. The description isn't too detailed on how it procs so how does it work? Is the health regen passive?
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I bet the Ch'thonians did this
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Newfag to Grim Dawn. So far I've really liked Occultist, but still pretty damn new to the game. Highest character was Lv 30 before it got ripped due to me being dumb (Hardcore)

Thinking of playing Nightblade. What can I expect from the class?
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Anyone have pieces of the Perdition Armor set (other than the shield) and willing to trade for it?
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Pretty new to the game, highest level character is only level 36.
What does this game offer in terms of end-game content? Is there something comparable to D3's rifts?
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I need help. I wanna make an Occultist build around Solael's Witchfire. So should I focus Chaos/Poison damage?
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>>127106006
you gon get b& kid
this be a blue board no titties allowed
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>>127106293
Either would be viable, depending on what class you pair it up with. I've seen people have crazy damage with chaos focused Warlocks, and personally i've been running a poison based Witch Hunter that has been tearing things up so far.
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Is trickster good?
It doesn't seem like it'd be good, but if you stacks aspd you could get into shenanigans

also, I'm thinking about Soldier/Occultist for Hardcore but I was thinking about centering my build around Sigil and BoD/AotG. How retarded am I? Last time I tried it out was a few patches ago and I can't remember all the changes, but I was unkillable up until I got myself killed on purpose because reasons.
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Are there any items like infinity in Diablo, to reduce enemy resistances?
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wee
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>>127108945
build? Looks fun
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>>127105147
>Perdition Armor set

Empowered or normal version? I have all the normal items.

>>127108003
Never played a trickster, but you could make a nice bleeding build I guess.

And any class works with a shield using soldier on hardcore, so just go with what you plan and experiment.
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>>127109231
Just the normal set. Is there anything in particular you're looking for? I've got a bunch of epics and a couple legendaries I'm not using as a result of trying to grind for that set.
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>>127109231
can bleed ticks be converted to lightning damage through items that say " % physical dmg converted to lightning"?
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>>127109060
It's an item, I'm pretty glassy but so loaded with elemental damage that the balls of energy kill everything as I walk into them.
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Could someone tell me how to effectively raise resists as demo/soldier in Elite?
I dont have many useful components, especially for vitality, aether and bleed/poison damage.
The enemies are still doable on Elite but holy fuck, facing 3 elite mobs can be such a pain in the ass.

Thats an old character long before devotions were a thing, so I might not have enough constellation points, too.
I found 16, all after old Arkovia, whats the normal amount of poits you should have?
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>>127109730
This marks out all the shrine locations, as well as their requirements.

http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Shrines#Shrine_Locations
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>>127109503
Which legendaries you have to spare? I will trade them all for one that I haven't got.
Legendary items are like pokemon to my autism, gotta collect em all.

>>127109730
Use good components, like runestone, wardstone, silkswatch, antivenom salve, unholy inscription. The rest you grind some reputation and use some augments and some items.

Did you not find anything better than these yellow items? Unless they give some pretty big states, you should be able to find lots of greens replacements with nice defenses.
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>>127110530
Just these two currently:
http://gracefuldusk.appspot.com/items/8077-Crescent-Moon
http://gracefuldusk.appspot.com/items/8059-The-Untouchable

I have the recipe learned for this but definitely don't have the materials to make it myself:
http://gracefuldusk.appspot.com/items/8299-Dread-Mask-of-Gurgoth
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>>127109730
>>127110530

Didn't read the part about not having any good ones. I have dozens of almost everyone, I can give you some if you want.

>>127110697
I have both, what do you need to create the dread mask? I'll fork over the materials.
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>>127110530
>Did you not find anything better than these yellow items?
No, thats the stuff I usually get see pic, a lot of items for casters or green stuff without any res or health whatsoever and it pisses me off pretty hard.
Those green pistols? Literally garbage but sadly the best I could find.

I also have shoulders and pants from the perdition normal set.
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Is there a new TQ Vault already? I would really like unlimited stash.
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>>127110802
It requires the Squall relic, Kilrian's Shattered Soul, a Wrathstone, a Sanctified Bone, and 5 Ancient Hearts.
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http://www.titancalc.com/TitanCalc.asp?mastery=Warlock&master1=2&master2=6&sa=0&m1=32-6-0-12-8-0-0-0-0-16-0-6-8-0-1-0-12-0-0-0-0&m2=32-0-0-1-0-0-8-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-8-0-0-0-0
this is the best TQ build and its a shame Grim Dawn seems to lack the creative synergies that TQ had despite having more skills and the devotion system.
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>>127111241
Thats what Im saying since GD got into early access
It has the same devs, but we get an even more shallow game, compared to TQ, I really dont know what they were thinking.
I mean the firestrike tree is a joke as demo, you technically dont need to skill Brimstone since it WILL fall off at some point, thanks to fix numbers for whatever reason.

And here I am still playing this because Im bored of TQ IT Soulvizier and this is the best arpg we got in a while.
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>>127111036

server is called gdg and password is 159

>>127110821

Damn, rng gods don't like you, huh? You should SoT or royal hive a bit for some loot.
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>>127111486
>You should SoT or royal hive a bit for some loot.
I guess, so back to normal diff after getting level 50 ...
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>>127111241
http://www.titancalc.com/TitanCalc.asp?mastery=Sorcerer&master1=6&master2=8&sa=21&m1=32-0-0-1-12-0-8-8-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-8-0-0-6-0-0&m2=32-0-10-6-0-8-8-0-12-0-0-0-6-12-0-0-1-1-0-8-0-0
http://www.titancalc.com/TitanCalc.asp?mastery=Champion&master1=4&master2=3&sa=21&m1=32-1-16-12-1-1-8-0-16-8-1-12-0-1-6-12-1-8-0-0-1-0&m2=32-0-0-0-0-0-0-10-0-0-10-0-0-0-0-6-0-6-0-0-16-0
Those were my favourite.
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God damn never thought to check if there's a gdg.

Rerolling with some bros this time I'll be using Phantasmal Blades. I'm looking at some guy's tree and he has Elemental Balance--What good is this for? And how does xburn (Frostburn) work? Here's his tree: http://grimcalc.com/build/ZbD3ij

I won't be copying it--I look at other's builds for ideas and reference.
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>>127111486
I'm not seeing the server for some reason. If you want I can put one up with the same name/pw
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>>127111668

Wonder what's the problem. Go ahead.
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>>127111716
Alright it's up
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Okay.
Fuck you game, just FUCK YOU.
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>>127111438
>you technically dont need to skill Brimstone since it WILL fall off at some point
I don't know, my +% Fire Damage keeps increasing every day.
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Are Squalls being given out ITT?
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>>127111994
Lol, i think that shield is the most common legendary.

>>127112038
Nope, it was being traded. But I was offering to give Orpheus "the unlucky" anon some components.
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>>127093019
How well do item skills scale with +%?

I'd KILL for a fire beam attack, but its such a shame you can't use them as main abilities just because you can't level them yourself.

IMO they should be similar to Devotions, in that you can gain levels in that one specific item to increase the damage of the skill
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>>127112169
Yeah components to make that and other lighting-related things seem to be fucking rare.
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>>127111994
>get a lego
>piss and moan
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>>127112169
>>Nope, it was being traded. But I was offering to give Orpheus "the unlucky" anon some components.
Naw, Im alright, I activated Veteran I cant remember it being in the game when I started and there are elite mobs left and right, surely, there HAS to be something worth after doing SoT once or twice.

>Lol, i think that shield is the most common legendary.
Yes and its also pretty useless on ranged chars and suboptimal when I play with a shield because I cant use the shaman skill.
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>tfw Grim Dawn General is now a thing

SO MANY YEARS
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So I started the game yesterday, playing Phantasmal Blades... I guess the ingame DPS calculator is not to be trusted? I switched from a green mace to a blue one, and according to the DPS comparision that should have given me +44 dps, but on the character sheet I lost like 30 dps. What gives?

Also, what types of weapons should I be using for Phantasmal Blades? Focusing on the physical damage part first, bleeding/chaos/cold ssecond.
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Since TQ and GD are using the same engine, would it be possible to load TQ's maps into GD?
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You'd think Darkvale Village would be rife with Note drops in houses.

Also hope all these FPS drops are fixed in the polish patch.
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requesting critique of the right hand build.

Should I just ignore a cold based nightblade?

It's what I really want though.
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>>127112568
>PB and DW
Trash.
>Not getting mirror
Total trash.
>Questioning Maiven's Sphere
Bait.
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>tfw no ancient hearts anywhere

Damn you, RNG.
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>>127113382
Not that guy but what's wrong with pneumatic burst?
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>>127113464
Phantasmal Blades.
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>>127113563
Ah, I see.
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>>127108553
Found something slightly similar.
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>>127113382
>pb and dw
>trash

Top shitter
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>>127114089
>>127113563
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>>127113382
Back to /v/, shitposting australian.
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>>127114160
Back to reddit, useless American.
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>>127108553
I dont think theres anything like conviction aura in the game that just wrecks everythings resists. There is that caster offhand that procs a physical and elemental resist debuff thats pretty powerful, and some devotion skills can proc lower resists for specific damage types
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Would anyone have a good bit of Cracked Lodestones that they don't need?
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Are the pet relic plans particularly expensive to trade for? I've found a bunch of relic plans but nothing pet-related.
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>>127114475
Or would want to sell? Whatever.

Wish I remembered that .doc of all the component farm areas.
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What am I supposed to do here?
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I just want to use dual peestol to throw eagles everywhere
for the past 24 levels I've been using 2H melee weapons
please why
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>>127114524
If they're good and rare ones. Basically I wouldn't bother unless they are the last tier Relics since everyone has everything else by now.
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Anybody wanna play through Act IV content? I'm L43 and progressing my way past the Asterkarn Road rift.
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Does anyone have any experience with playing a Battlemage that focuses on Physical and Elemental melee damage? I'm just wondering what kind of split in stats I should go for. Do I need cunning at all?
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after all the shilling on /v/ I figured the game would be an improvement over TQ but there's hardly any changes. Even the skills feel the same. TQ was made great thanks to mods especially the soulvizier mod, the base game was just alright. Hopefully there will be mods that will improve GD because right now it's just TQ with a different setting.
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Cadence or savagery for 2 handed currently pure soldier
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>>127116424
It really isn't.
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>>127116424
>Shitpost:The post

Happy new year to you too /v/
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Which one is better for a demo?
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>>127117096
>responding to it
Not helping, bruh
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I hate bugs.
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>>127117107
Elementium, by far.
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>>127114475
How much you need? Have over 100.
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>>127117240
Man, she fucked me up pretty bad. I had a long fight with her.

>>127117257
Any you want to get rid of is fine by me. I don't even know how much to ask for. Would 20 be okay? I'm a lightning build and a lot of the stuff I want/need to make requires Cracked Lodestones (plus some other stuff that I won't go into detail about now). Regardless, anything helps at all.
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>>127117245

b-b-b-but 26% resistance
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>>127117331
>how much to ask for
Without sounding presumptuous*
Oops.
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Sounds like a cool guy.
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>>127117331
Let's trade 20 for a symbolic price of 500 iron a piece.

Server is gdg and password is 159
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what is that over there, how do I survive that valley and get to it?
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>>127117552
BUILDING SERVER LIST
Will be there momentarily.
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>>127117645
Never mind. Not even seeing a gdg server. I could make one instead?
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>>127117694
Okay fuck it made my own.

gdg
169
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>>127117637
You survive by running through it, there's a stop point halfway there, you can reach that by using a potion, then wait for cooldown, and then reach the mine entrance with another potion. If you have healing spells, the timing isn't as unforgiving.
The mine itself is a dungeon, it unlocks when you hit honored with Black Legion.
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>>127117637
An iron legion faction quest. An area filled with Aether and another herald boss. You can reach it by running and stopping mid way on the middle area with the manticores or, creep slowly using teleports to avoid death. The place is locked without the quest though.
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Does "Can activate with all default melee attacks" mean it can proc off flamestrike?
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>>127117885
Yes, it means it activates off of the default attack, and all auto attack modifiers.
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>>127117331
Speaking of long fights, i just tried tackling the Herald of Flame for the first time.
That fucker just wouldn't go down.
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Can i refund devotion points?
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Can anyone help me with the game UI, I get fucking lost on quests all the time, they tell me to kill shit or do shit without pointing it in my map.

Pls respond.

Also, at what time do I start playing with others?
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>>127118146
>Also, at what time do I start playing with others?

Whenever you want.
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So what does + total damage do exactly?

Will it increase both my physical and lightning damage?
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>>127118306
Yes. It gives everything.
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>>127118139
Yes, they cost an Athenian crystal.

>>127115463
There is a quest there for deaths vigil or kymon's forgot which. There is also a secret in one of the last rooms, one of the unlit torches is a lever to open door.

>>127118137
Explore the map. When you reach an objective it will show as a yellow star on the map.
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>>127118306
It works like an individual +x% to every single damage type.
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>>127117240
I didnt have anywhere near the clear speed, but could face tank her easily as a conjurer... I mean i just stood there with sigil and totems and spammed poison bomb until she died...

But, how the fuck is your DPS so high? I do maybe 500 tops with my totems
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Does the "total retalation damage" count torwards electric and fire retalation?
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>>127118814

Forgot image
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>>127118814
Obviously
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>>127118814
Yes, it works like +% total damage, but for retaliation damage.
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I see very few builds involving pets. Are they generally bad (damage, survivability, pathing issues etc) or are there simply not enough points to go around and make a pet-based Conjurer?
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>>127118981
They are boring. They're probably one of the strongest builds right now, but it's boring being escorted through the game by your pets.
Also they kinda require decent gear.
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Soldier + Nightblade or Soldier + Arcanist?
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Is a soldier + arcanist shield tank mage viable?
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>>127119043
Dang. I was hoping to make a pet-based build with curse of frailty and some dots to support them. Oh well.
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>>127118981
A pet-based Conjurer is the easiest build to finish the game with. It's just not discussed much because there's not much to discuss. Take pets. Take pet buffs. Equip gear with pet bonuses. Take some spells to cast while your pets to the heavy lifting. Die of boredom taking the most passive approach to playing Grim Dawn.

Look at http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24703 for an idea on how to build a pet master, if you're interested.
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>>127119103
Very.
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Can someone gift the game to me please?

I dont have a job but am currently waiting for a potential employer of mine to call back

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198223868272/wishlist
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>>127119180

any tips?
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>>127119296
Go back to r9k you sack of shit.
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>>127118781
This baby right here has carried me through just about all the bosses so far.
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>>127119342
;__;
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>>127119329
There's not much you can do wrong with Soldier/Arcanist, honestly.

Pick a main attack (Blade Arc, Cadence, Tremor, whatever), take the Soldier passives, take Mirror of Erections, Maiven's Sphere and Inner Focus.
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>>127119551

>mirror of erections
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Guys I'm a noob when it comes to these games, say I want to farm a set do I have to kill a specific ebemy? or do I have to kill enemies from the item level range?
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ultimate cronley with -25% aether res
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>mob AI is smart enough to move away from Sigil of Consumption
10/10 game.
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Should I really buy it? I rarely buy/play games recently, but this one seems like something that could keep me hooked for a while.
I like:
Diablo 1-3, Path of Exile, Titan Quest
Do not like:
Torchligh 1-2, Sacred

I am more casual than hardcore player.
Why are there not many streams on twitch?
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>>127120274

It's not out yet officially although it's content complete.
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>>127120274
>I like:
>Titan Quest

Yes, you'll probably like Grim Dawn.
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>>127119406
wiki says at 12/12 that should be doing 765 over 3 seconds. What the absolute fuck?

how can skills in other classes be doing shit for damage, yet this is so absurd? Do you have ridiculous gear?
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>>127120413
The tooltip adds in your bonuses to poison damage. Nidalla's Justifiable Ends is also the strongest DoT in the entire game, I think.
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>>127120413
I'm sitting at abut 430% poison damage with 93% duration extension, then there's about 500 spirit on top of that.
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Does playing on Veteran mode offer potential additional rewards (say, from having more hero mobs spawn) or is it just a straight up HP and dmg buff for regular mobs?
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>>127120657
It gives increased spawns, yeah. Also a small HP and dmg buff to all mobs.
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>>127120618
hey vg, just buyed that game but now i dont know the classes that i shud play- i self would like to get a melee character without any range-attacks, whats the best way to achive this- blademaster or commando, or is soldier a shit class if i like to play mostly solo?
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>>127120780
Soldier is fine for solo.
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>>127118390
Third part was supposed to be to this >>127118146

>>127120780
Soldier is perfectly fine for solo. And most of the secondary classes go well with a melee based soldier. I'd take blade master if you want dual wielding, shaman if 2handed or arcanist if yo are not sure or want to be super tanks.
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>>127120780
Blademaster is a great class and fun to play as well.

I think Blademaster and Battlemage are the best classes for new players.
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>>127121132
super tank sounds nice but on the otherhand like zero killspeed
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>>127121226
A super tank can have an amazing clearing speed as well, he is just so much harder to kill. You'd be surprised how strong a sword and board class can be.
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>>127121354
>>127121202
thank you i will try both
i just dislike to be 50 hours deep in game and realise that i did some bigger fails
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>>127121354
>no Warder builds up on the Compendium yet
Well fug
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>>127121608
Any combination of classes is at least viable. Worst case scenario, you have to respec your entire build, but respeccing is fairly cheap anyway. The worst mistake you can make is in spending your stat points wrong, but even that's not a huge deal since you can make up a lot with the right gear. For stats, just remember that Physique is for defense, Cunning of for physical/piercing/DoT damage, and Spirit is for all other (magic) damage types.
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>>127121648
I don't know why I quoted. Oops.
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>>127121648
Building a Warder is pretty straight-forward though. Just build a 2H Battlemage and replace good skills like Maiven's with mediocre ones like Mogdrogen's.
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I need the Rhowari Legacy quest before the quest items actually drop, right?
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>>127120657
Veteran is normal mode.

Normal mode is causal mode.

There's no veteran mode in elite/ultimate.
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>>127122154
Well my main was a 2H pure Soldier so I'd like to eventually recreate it but perhaps a little more interesting to play, or with a better setup than
>stack phys damage
>hit things hard
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>>127123063
I play a shaman/soldier right now and it's pretty fun. Those totems and wind devils are really doing work.
>>
Do those +Physical Damage% devotion points get factored into Elemental damage if you have something that converts Physical to Elemental?
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>>127123431
Right. Totems sound neat and apparently I can shoot tornadoes at people or some shit. Tornadoes or tsunamis; maybe both. Sounds better than
>run to mob
>hit it really hard
>repeat
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>>127123813
It depends on the source of the bonus.

http://www.grimdawn.com/guide/gameplay/combat.php#q20
>The order of events for Conversion is as follows: Base Skill > Skill Modifiers > Conversion on the Skill or Transmuter > Conversion on Equipment > Equipment, Auras and Passives
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>>127124051
Just the +Damage% bonuses that there are that aren't tied to procs or anything. For example there's two of them in Dire Bear. I want to go Elemental + Physical damage but I'm only shooting for the Phyiscal devotions.
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Doesn't it look like you can go over there?
>>
Character editor when?

Is GDdefiler kill?
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>>127124147
It goes last, with the rest of the passive modifiers.
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>>127124491
Yeah, you want GD Trainer. It's still in the process of being updated for b29 though.

http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=580982&start=420
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>>127124565
Ok, thanks. That link was helpful and will help me build my character.
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>>127123837
Those tornadoes are wind devils. Temporary pets that scale with your damage instead of pet bonuses like most others. They in turn, shoot people with lightnings and shit. Tsunamis come from devotion constellation that you pretty much always wanna take if you are going for an elemental damage build.
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>>127124267
There's a secret area somewhere in this dungeon, flip one of the wall torches in the last room before the boss.
>>
So does Blast Shield protect against melee attacks? Not exactly sure what makes up piercing damage.
>>
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh all these FPS drops over any little thing is killing me. Not literally, not even literally in-game, but AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Is there a way to reset devotion points?
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>>127125037
Did you try turning off cloud saving?
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>>127125043
like skill points
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>>127125112
I haven't but I actually turned it on as I was making this character, and the FPS issues have always been a constant beforehand.
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>>127125043
You can refund them the same way as skill points, except it requires Aether Crystals instead of money.

Some bosses also drop an item that resets it entirely for free.
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>>127125152
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>>127125353
Same settings, except 'Lighting' set to low.
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>>127125024
Piercing is a damage type just like lightning, cold, etc.

It will be stated on an ability, or a weapon will do a percentage of its damage as piercing.

Not all weapons do piercing.
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I don't get why people want this game to go faster. The pacing is fine. I understand if they have a preference to play style, but this is how the deva made it
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>>127125181
Turn off cloud saving, in game and in steam, and add /nocommit to your launch options in steam. Had the same problems this helped me.
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>>127125695
I just really hate the first act up until you get past the foggy bank, then its fun and you start to get some power.
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>go to kill Shade of Elnadrin for Witch
>six trillion mobs in its room
>gangraped
Okay.
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>>127125734
Alright. I'll give it a shot. Thanks buddy.
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>>127126072
>reopen game
>character back at L3 like an early early early save of him
Okay what. How do I fix this now? I turned my Steam Cloud sync off in Properties, opened game, saw this, turned it back on, and still nothing.

Did my save vanish into the nether? What.
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>>127125734
Oh my fuck, not even him but thank you so much. Now I can have everything on very high/high and the game looks fucking amazing now (had it all on medium before to try to limit the stuttering)
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Guys is there ANY way of recovering points invested in mastery?
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>>127126192
Oh.
>turn Cloud Saving on back in the options
Well that did it. Any way I can 'hard save' my character, though, so I can keep the Cloud shit off, just in case?
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>>127126269
Trainer
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>>127126192
Your saves should be in your steam folder, you just have to get them from there and put them in your C:/Mydocuments/Mygames/GrimDawn
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>>127126304
Hm. I actually don't have any saves in my Steam folder. Think it's the other way around?
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>>127126303

How
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>>127126390
That's really weird, i'd say back up your saves and search for the "Download saves from Cloud" button that should be in the Grim Dawn main menu options.
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>>127126495
Well I copied and transferred from the Documents path to the save folder in the GD Steam folder. Still nothing. So to play my Spellbreaker at its current level and not its L3 rendition, I have to have Cloud Saving on. It's odd.
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Is there anyway to abandon a bounty? I accidentally accepted one that asks me to craft a calamity, but I don't wanna waste a tainted brain matter
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Just got the game. I already chose an occultist, but I still wonder about the second class.

Which second class (and by extension which skills) could go along with a ranged occultist if I want to shoot the shit out everything with two pistols? I already got my dose of Van Helsing playing that Van Helsing game, now I wanna pull off that Saint of Killers style.

Are pets ok in this game or are they weak as shit like in every other aRPG?
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>>127126584
The GD steam folder is the cloud one, so that's working as intented. Maybe if you use the download from cloud button it'll download them to your steam folder and then you'll be able to transfer them to your documents folder.
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>>127126625
>weak as shit like in every other arpg

Anon stop

D2 Necro was amazing.

Also pet builds are the ultimate cookie cutter build in this game.
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>>127126673
They're already in the Documents folder. That's the thing.

Nothing in the GD Steam save folder at all.
Everything is in the Documents folder.
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>>127126271
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20752
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>>127126769
Oh, and I don't have the button you're referring to. Also strange.
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>>127126303

Well I tried the trainer it says executable not running
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Reminder that you can craft Blood of Ch'ton and Tainted Brain Matter so don't bother farming them.
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>>127126625
The only advice I can give you regarding pets is that they require a bit of spending to get really good. Maybe, if you want to play with guns, roll a Commando (demo/soldier) instead.
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>>127126858
Thanks. The override problem seems to be because of same name but boy am I worried about fixing that in case I accidentally delete my save.
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>>127127076
I gotta stop hitting enter so fast.
It says I can switch the files or something if my non-cloud character was most recent, but it isn't, so I guess I HAVE to keep Cloud Saving on or else I can't even access my character. Rather annoying.
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>>127127168
Rename your save folder in Mydocuments into like Saves1, download everything from the cloud, if it didn't work you can just delete the new save folder created and rename your old one Saves again.
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>>127126952
It's not updated for b29 yet. >>127124714

>>127125203
See, why didn't they just make mastery refunding cost an aether crystal or something?

I mean, I know they don't want to make it so you theoretically only need one character, but shit. At least limit it to your secondary mastery or something.
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>>127127509
Well, where exactly do I "download from Cloud" at? I guess that's my biggest concern right now.
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>>127127617
You need to turn on cloud saving again to have the option, it should be in the network tab of the main menu.
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Can you rename your character somehow?
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I don't think the hack n' slash genre is for me

this game is barely fun enough for me to want to play through it once, three times is just torture

i would maybe do it if the PvP wasnt easily abusable garbage, but nah
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>>127127843
Last question: Where do they download to?
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>>127128262
Ok
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>>127128345
Nevermind - things are working properly now. All I need. Thanks for the help, anon.
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>>127126978
>22k dps

I should really get into dual wielding.
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>>127128262
Enjoy Her Story faggot.
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>>127128401
Fuck you.
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>>127128505
Im glad you can now enjoy the game without lag anon, have fun.
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Should I kill Anasteria?
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>>127129051
Well I got my saves working without Cloud Saves enabled so we'll see. Already gotten two small normal FPS drops so I'll have to play through this dungeon to see if it's lessened or the same.
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>>127126978
>splitting damage types

Of course, I didn't even think about that. Of course its viable if you're going for +elemental.

Fuck sake, every time I get to level 20ish I get a new build idea. THERE'S TOO MANY POSSIBILITIES.

I think I'll have a break down when they release the inevitable necromancer mastery.
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>>127129126
Don't forget to put /nocommit in your steam launch options.
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>>127129221
Yep, first thing I did.
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>tfw you have more fun theorizing builds in GrimCalc than actually playing the game

This is not a life that is worth living.
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>>127129127
Iktf. Never gone past 40 because i always start a new character.
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How do I beat this guy? He regens faster than I can spam grenado
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>>127130246
I just play Veteran Hardcore.

That way I can pretend my restarts are due to trying out new builds instead of just dying.
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>>127129086

If you're a caster-type, don't. She has good augments IMO

On the flip side, getting Legion rep is slower if you do her bounties
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>>127130598
Why are your toggles off?
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>>127130598

everytime you get hit by his bolts of vitality it heals him so do more damage or get hit less.
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>>127130803
They're on now, right after i took the picture i realized that. Still not killing him any faster, he;s at like 50% after 5 minutes, this is agonizing
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There is actually a pair of pants, and I've only seen them one time called "the soiled trousers" that literally let you throw your shit on enemies.

.
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>>127131159
>your shit
It's not even your own shit. It's literally shit that's already in the trousers when you find them and decide to wear them.

Ban this sick filth.
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>still sometimes get FPS drop when opening map
>every once in a while when picking up loot
Welp it decreased in frequency but still occurs. Cool.
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>>127131010
>20 minutes of fighting for 2 yellows
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>>127132021
The real reward is further ahead.
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Why is the Gates of Necropolis map so fucking huge?
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>>127132226
They'll probably still be all yellows or some really shit greens.
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>>127129883
Why do you think people played D2 that much?
Good skills + Good items = good theorycrafting.
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>>127109653
Which classes?
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>>127132525
Nah there's a one-shot chest which is a guaranteed unique
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>>127130880
Those pants are actually pretty great.
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>>127132610
Demo/sorc
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>>127132774
They are. The proc is amazing, disabling everything around you every 12 seconds.
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Here's a useful post from the GD forums about the Weapon Pool System (skills with x% chance to be used - for Nightblade, Soldier and Shaman builds mainly):

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showpost.php?p=251715&postcount=40
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>kill Abathis for Bounty
>still 0/1
Okay.
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>>127132714
Oh cool, I didn't realize it was guaranteed.

I just did it myself. Still got a shitty unique, unfortunately.
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When my fellow Nightblades use phantasmal blades, are you using them with Focused throw, or spamming the weaker version?
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>>127134084
Good read, thanks.

What level should I be around when getting to act 2? I'm at 20 right now and I'm just entering the Warden's Cellar
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How bugged this game is? Anything gamebreaking?
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>>127137327
It's content complete. Its being released officially in Feb. Everything is working.
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>>127137473
While "it works on my machine" is pretty solid answer I anticipate as a reply, I have to say personally that MP is broken in this game. Aggro is too. Sometimes doors just don't open/break. Items fall through ground. I can't be the only one, right?
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>>127137785
I don't play MP but I still sometimes get the "items falling through ground" bug too.
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Anyone got Brimstone Shoulderguards I could take off you? I can't seem to find them anywhere.
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>>127137785
The worst I've seen is some items falling off the map if they drop from an enemy close to an edge of an endless pit. Also my sound gets all fucked up whenever I go to broken hills.
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>>127137785
I don't get items falling through the ground, but I don't play MP. I guess there is the stuttering issue but thats fixed with the steam cloud saving.
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>>127137785
Haven't had any trouble with doors, but i have had items falling through the world although they always teleported back after a while.
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>>127137785
The only one of those I've seen is that the aggro is weird and inconsistent to the point that actual tanking is almost impossible. Dunno if that's intended though.
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>Empyrion really isn't Empyrion
I fucking knew it.
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so when you move to the next difficulty, your faction rep stays the same right
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Are there better (higher level) versions of Epic/Legendary items on Elite?
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>>127139606
Yeah, you keep reputation/gear/etc.

>>127139702
There are empowered versions of a lot of epic items that have more/better stats at a higher level requirement. No empowered legendaries though, and not all epics have empowered versions. If you're wondering about a particular item you can check here for an empowered version: http://gracefuldusk.appspot.com/items
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Falcon Swoosh and Celestial Hammer look like wet farts. They should be huge and make big noise.
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>>127128262
>wanting PvP in your ARPGs
You are the problem here.
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as a blademaster is there any reason to pick daggers over 1h swords or will it matter more as I level 2h mastery higher?
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>>127142474
Nah. Daggers are magic-focused, generally.
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>>127140249
Falcon swoosh looks awesome. They shouldn't look huge because they're singular projectiles. I can't comment on celestial hammer.

I have Falcon on my Phantasmal blades and I think it looks neat.
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Tanky build is less fun than I was expecting. Never get close to dying but killing bosses takes forever
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I'm new to this game

I have tons of points left and no idea what to do with them. The Aether Ray seemed awful, so what do I spend my points in?
Also how do I stop running out of energy all the time?
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>>127145956
Aether ray is really, really good if you get items with aether damage modifiers. Don't spam spells, and use energy potions
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>>127145956
Aether ray is great but requires a lot of stat investment and +aether damage. I have like 138 cast speed and +460% aether, +200% fire. It also costs about 620 energy a second to fire right now.
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>>127146705
boss video at this level? Is it a viable boss killer this early on?
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>6,930 currently in game

Feels nice
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how on earth did 8 people manage to develop a game like this?
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>>127147427

Well they already had an extremely solid base to build it on, this game is basically just a modified Titan's Quest after all.
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>>127147427
>how did 8 people manage to develop a mediocre game

Easily.
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>>127147427
They are old school devs and not video game design school graduates
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>>127147427
By properly managing their time and money. not having an unrealistic scope and hiring competent and experienced people. One of their guys was a designer for D1 and D2. Another was an environmental artist for Irrational Games. Also their main guys already had experience with the engine and stuff.
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What classes do you think the expansion will add?
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>>127147427
i imagine all of them have a wide skillset, like a guy who usually codes and do some art or music in his spare time

if you have 8 motivated individuals like that, you can achieve a lot
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>>127147586
How did one person make a mediocre post?
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>>127147864

Gunslinger is basically all but confirmed.

I'd like a class with a poison damage focus, it's probably the least represented damage type in the current classes.

If I'm allowed to dream, some sort of monk type class that fights with fist weapons, but that would require a new weapon category so it's unlikely.
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>>127148050
>Gunslinger is basically all but confirmed

Where?
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>>127147586
>how did 1 PoE General shitter find his way into this thread
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Is Black legion the only faction to offer an armor augment against Chaos damage?
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>>127145486
I made the same mistake, build damage first then go for your tanky things, the whole of act 1 can be cleared without dying by going pretty much full dps and chugging pots.
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>>127147047
I'm shit at making webms and can't even figure out webm for retards.

But yeah, it fucking rapes. Normal enemies die in 1-2 ticks (it ticks for ~2k) and bosses tend to die within seconds. Only reason it takes any time at all is because you're fragile as fuck and can't tank anything. My equipment is actually pretty shit right now too, so I'm actually much weaker than I should be.
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>>127147864
they've mentioned a couple of things they'd like to do in the future. Though of course "like to do" isn't the same as "will certainly happen"

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?p=222040#post222040
Shield combat class.

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10830#post10830
Vampirism class.

People have also been mentioning Gunslinger and Necromancer classes a lot as well, though I don't know if those have actually been mentioned by the devs or if it's just wishful thinking.
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>>127147908
The guy who started it doesn't know C++ but had to fumble his way through it to start doing shit when he was working solo. It really is a passion project, and their feedback and info on the forums was/is great.
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>>127148554
Herp derp, a ranged weapon class is mentioned in the same post as the vampire one, I should learn to read.
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>>127148554
i wish they would make an alchemist class, with heavy focus on acid, poison, and electric damage
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>>127148331
This looks to be the case. Outcast has weapon augments that offer a good amount of aether/chaos resist, but no armor augments.
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>>127148824
I'd like a necromancer for some Bone magic, basically spells that deal physical/piercing damage. Maybe some actual chaos spells as well, instead of the pathetic amount of chaos skills we have now.

In fact, the only real Chaos spell is AAR with the transmutation.
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Does tainted power for AAR also convert the extra aether damage of disintegration, or will disintegration just be worthless because its now adding +aether to a chaos spell?
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>>127150103
It does. The way transmuters work is they calculate everything in the base skill first, including modifiers, then it applies the transmute.
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>>127150103
It will also convert the extra damage from Disintegration.

See >>127124051 for details.
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>>127148050
>gunslinger

I thought we already have that. Just give me a pugilist/monk class already.
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>>127150282
>>127150379
Ah, then I need to rethink my build. Thanks guys.
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>>127150502
You thought wrong.

We have a couple of gunslinger items and like one decent skill for ranged weapons.
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>>127128920
Why so angry?
He was just acknowledging your statement
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>>127151038
>like one decent skill
Bitches don't know about my Savagery.
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>>127151673
If it's not AoE I ain't care.

Fire Strike or bust.
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is dual wield fire-strike pistols with saboteur a good idea?
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>>127152151
Not the absolute best but definitely viable.
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>>127150894
I should clarify: one the skill modifiers are factored in and the damage is transmuted, from that point on all items and such will apply to the new damage type. Gear for chaos damage, not aether.
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>>127152151

wow that was dumb nevermind
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Act 4 > Act 1 > Act 3 > Act 2

This Act 2 being a big pile of shit meme that gets perpetuated by ARPG devs needs to end.
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>>127153265
Act 1 is the worst though.
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>>127153265
Act 2 just felt kinda unremarkable to me.
Act 1 can fuck right off with its miles of swamp and mosquitoes.
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Cultists ain't shit.
Was kinda disappointed by how they reused the music, but it's still a good track.
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Damn I can't decide...
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>>127153954
I'd take the green one.
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>>127153954
Green belt is worth more damage since you seem to be Fire damage focused already.
And nice +%HP too, it's better.
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>>127153265
Not experienced 4.

but it actually goes 3 > 2 > 1. I hate 1 with a passion, it doesn't get gud until you get past the foggy bank and start getting larger swarms and despised with the aetherials.

And I love 2 because SKELLINGTONS
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>>127155101
So am I the only one who likes Act I just fine? Maybe it's just nostalgia for when that was the only act available, but I don't have any problems with it.
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These are my skill points. With that in mind, what should I do about the devotion?
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Are their any add ons that give you a fire strike like ability? Just something to replace standard attack?
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>>127155101
Just goes to show how much they improved in the long run, and how they got more confident when money started rolling.
Didn't they recruit some cool level designer from diablo or something at some point?

>>127155298
Act 1 is just too much of the same, I can remember all the places of every single act and how they are paced except for Act 1 because it's just swamp and more swamps with a few samey caves.
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>>127155360
Fuck.. Forgot the image
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Where do I dump my attributes for a Conjurer?
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>>127155404
Don't think so, but most classes have a left click skill anyway, unless you went like melee occ/nightblade.
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Does /gdg/ ever play multiplayer together?
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When do you guys think it would be safe to attempt the door beyond the steps of torment?
Is it worth it or should I just forget about it?
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>>127156761
Go for it. You can handle it.
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>>127155739
everyone should pump physique at all times

you may want a few into spirit for equipping items or something, but probably no more than 10 points total.

These stat customization systems always work out like this in video games, honestly its unnecessary, they should just remove it like d3 did.

The reason is +% damage is not a good stat to look at, even for non pet classess, since you will have plenty of +%damage naturally from the base cunning/spirit you get, as well as the stuff you will just naturally pick up. OA is the dps stat, and while cunning raises it slightly, you are much better off pumping physique and raising OA through devotions and items
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>>127156761
Go for it.
You're not chicken are you?
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>>127152474
this is so counter-intuitive. They should do damage conversion like PoE does it, desu

This way makes a lot of skill combination you though might be good, now completely irrelelvant
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>>127155809
Yeah i'm nightblade/arcanist.

it's cool, just wish there was something I use all the time to slap a devotion ability on to. I'll have quite a few. And it feels like a waste.
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>>127155626
>>127155360
PLEASE HALP
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>>127156761

everything behind that door scales up with you anyways so it's always kinda fucking hard.

Be wary of spectral chests.
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I want to make a tanky Soldier build that maxes out Cadence and Forcewave with passives and auras out the ass. Should I stick with pure Soldier or spec into another class a bit?
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What music do you listen to while playing?
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>mfw sacred strike
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I keep losing DPS the more I invest in Elemental Exchange. How is this possible? What am I doing wrong?
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>>127158634
What type of playstyle are you shooting for with this? Tanky melee lightning damage? Things requiring the yellow affinity usually offer good tank stats. I forget where to look for lightning damage.

Honestly your best bet is to look at all the constellations that give abilities and if you see something you like, check what other stats that constellation offers to see if it's for you, as well as how to get to it most efficiently while still giving yourself relevant stats.
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>>127160826
>physical damage converted to elemental
Do you have less more +%physical than you do +%elemental? (elemental damage is just split evenly 1/3rd fire/lightning/cold, so average those +%s)
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>>127161298
Yeah, I do. I wasn't sure if those +physical% bonuses would get converted to elemental with IEE. Seems like that isn't the case? Anyway, I tried seeing if adding a Blessed Steel on my weapon and using IEE would help a bit but it only made it worse. God damnit my Arcane Soldier is not working out.
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At what point should a character go from normal to elite? I've done all of the quests on the right side pane. Got all 28 shrines. Level 59 currently and doing well in Veteran. Just doing some bounties. Mats for BoC/SoT (Blood of Ch'Thon) seem impossible to actually farm.

>>127160280
Mostly electronic/ambient/trance. I don't mind other stuff like metal but most the new music I've got lately is all what I just stated. Except for one instrumental metal album which is grand.
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>>127161298
With +% bonuses from items, they're applied AFTER damage conversion. Skills take precedence over items, so the 25% damage is already converted before your +damage % is applied.
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>>127161870
the whole point of elemental exchange is to not have +phys bonuses
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>>127160026
Now that the level cap is 85 there's no reason to spec 100% into one class. Hybrid is like always good.
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>>127162186
Damn it, ok, thanks. I guess I'm going to shelve the idea of my soldier doing Elemental damage now since it fucks too much with everything. I'll just get Maiven's and Erectoes from the Arcanist tree. A bit mad about the wasted stat points tho. This is why I wish they were refundable.
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Am I progressing correctly here? That area I missed is worrying me
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>>127162414
Near the beginning of Prospectors Trail there's a Dynamite location to unblock a road to get to Pine Barrens. Its an optional area but had tons of quests and good rep/Manticore Eye farming.
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>>127162414
Well I normally get to Fort Ikon around 35, and you're not even to Sorrow's Bastion at 44. I'd say you're fine.

Unrelated, do these two skills boost each other? Are they worth maxing out to get some sick retaliation damage?
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>>127162186
why do people consider that a viable option when at 12/12 the skill only converts 25%. That means if you are trying to increase the damage you have to split between physical and elemental gear, and probably end up with less damage than you would trying to scale a single damage type?

Or is +%dmg on equipment so abundant for both types that this somehow makes sense?

this is a weird design decision
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>>127162827
>Fork Ikon @ 35
Sounds like you skip a lot.
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>>127162398
You can still do it. There's even the ability to make cadence add elemental damage.

Devotion can be refunded, it just costs aether crystals.

You'd just need to pay more attention to your itemisation and the skills you select in Soldier.
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>>127162827
forgot picture
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>>127162795
Also a shrine.
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>>127163002
As far as I know, yes. Auras that say +whatever damage% are global, e.g. Solael's Witchfire and Second Rite affect the Chaos-transmuted AAR.
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>>127162904
Well I do all the dungeons/quests and explore most of every area, don't know what I could be skipping except for grinding out stuff more
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>>127163203
Because it's chaos damage. Chaos damage affects the aether>chaos AAR. The ONLY aether damage bonuses that affect aether>chaos AAR is Disintergration.

But,
>playing AAR
Enjoy dying.
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is there a list of one point wonder skills
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>>127160970
>Tanky melee lightning damage
Yes.

>your best bet is to look at all the constellations
Did that already. Thank you.
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>>127163667
No. They're more-or-less obvious. Just look at grimcalc trees and look. They're a mix of skills that are really good by themselves (like mirror, nb's blade thingo) and skills that don't scale particularly well with extra points (every skill has diminishing returns, but some are just shit with extra points)

There's no secret to it. Just look yourself.
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Just played a character for 10 hours straight and deleted it because it sucked. I fucking hate this game but can't stop playing it.
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>>127164080
Why not just respec?
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>>127164274
I don't like doing that.
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>>127164080
I used to do that but now I play hardcore, it's more fun because if something sucks it'll just die.
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>>127163497
Nobody was talking about Aether damage. He wanted to know if Flame Touched would boost the damage of Vindictive Flame, and it does.

Also chaos ray with sigil is fun and keeps you alive.
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>>127163667
Depends on your build, honestly. A one-point wonder in one build might be a central pillar of another.
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>>127164713
Then why mention "transmuted chaos AAR" faget

And the only thing that keeps AAR alive is more damage. Extremely glass cannon build.
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>>127164372
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SHAMAN IS A SHIT FUCKING CLASS
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>>127164898
Because it's chaos damage and a bonus from a skill in another tree applies to it, so it's another example of an aura affecting the damage of another skill.
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How's your Legendary set coming along? Did you find all the pieces yet?
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>>127164898
>Extremely glass cannon build
How there can even be glass cannon builds. chapter 3 enemies have hueg hp bars like leeches and manticores and hit hard as shit, manticore even teleport. Not to mention the final boss, how can a glass cannon build even do it?
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>>127165247
Good question. AAR by nature is glass cannon and the few AAR builds I've seen couldn't stress enough how glass-cannony (unreliable) it is. It's a pain in the ass to level up and build up.
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>>127165353
But it's so fucking fun to shoot everything with a magical fuck you laser.
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>>127160280
Im a musician so i listen to lots of different things from techno to tuvan throat singing, depending on my mood. I wouldnt be able to reply to this with out making a huge attention whoring post with lots of youtube links showing many different kinds of music and explaining why they are all wonderful examples ;_;

So instead ill just post this russian guy. Im posting it because he was really good, but he lost all his fingers to frost bite because he lives in sibera and is russian so life has to suck in one way or another or the universe will get angry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4sK2ZANID4
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>>127165464
It is. My fuckyoulaser character is ~38 and I made it when I was starting GD again (b27-28) after a huge break from it so I made some dumb-ass mistakes like picking all 5 crossroads. I've gone a little into Occultist for the pets but they don't do much. If/when I keep playing the character, I'd max Occultist, get Possession, Doom Bolt and the chaos damage thing.

It has extreme energy issues (extremely energy demanding skill) and it is squishy (Arcanist in general is)
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>>127165098
>600 potions

Is that really necessary?
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>>127165794
That's my pet character. Those things just add up as you never use them.
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>>127165353
I'm going to do ANOTHER one. Then transmute for chaos.

HEAVEN OR HELL

LETS ROCK
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>>127165698
I just stick with AAR and Sigil myself, with Curse of Frailty to help with crowd control. I lay down a curse and a sigil and let loose on the little zone of death I've created, and most things melt instantly.
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>>127165098
>frog helmet

I need this.
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>>127164986
YOU are a shit fucking class. Fight me.
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>>127165997
Post planned tree. As I said my laserfag is 38ish and it has been hell. It was starting to get good around that level but I rerolled to my loved Conjurer and hardly looked back.

>>127166059
What good is Sigil for? Just some damage? Also mind posting your tree? The more I think about the character the more it screams for more points (more into maiven shield, more into occultist etc)
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>you are now DESPISED with the aetherials

d-did that matter?
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>>127166142
Wow, you fucked up.
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Man devotion is so fucking cool. Love the abilities you can assign.

Adds so much to the game and build possibilities.
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>>127166142
>he fucked up this badly
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So must we wait the expansion pack to see aetherials shit up the place?
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>>127166497
Yup. And also hope for a Mastery with better representation for Aether damage as well.
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>>127166142
Everything in the game has a faction. Aetherials are an enemy faction. You start out as enemies, but if you kill a bunch of them they hate you even more than normal and eventually will send people after you.

The same is true for all enemies, its normal, dont worry about it.
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>>127166137
Level 52 right now. Sigil regenerates health but now that I think about it I have so little HP it hardly matters. It does wonders for crowd control, though. Does so much damage that it kills small mobs en masse.
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>>127166142
>He isn't Revered with the Aetherials
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>>127166659
>better aether representation

what is Arcanist for 500.

What we need is more poison/unarmed things
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PSA cause I saw this asked before: you can check which shrines you already cleared in Quest log (tab with the connected shiny dots) pic related

>>127110834

GD Vault and GD Defiler will come after they do the full release. I read somewhere on the forums that they keep changing stash files all the time in build updates during EA so it would be pointless to do it until that stuff is finalized
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>>127054743
Alright how viable is glass cannon with veteran difficulty?

At the moment im playing a 2hander meelee pet master (occ+sham) kiting with my pets (have briathorn and the bird healing) seems to be the only viable option for a lot of bosses. Im lvl 30
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>>127166659
I think some aethered up mofo like cronley would make a pretty nice build but I bet they won't ever do that because of muh lore.
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>>127166728
It's a bit weird for some factions like Cronley's gang though. I killed all of their leaders and pretty much eradicated them and only hit despised. A gang of runaway criminals shouldn't have the same capability for replenishing their ranks as lovecraftian demons or undead raising aliens.
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>>127167375
yeah chapter 2 is bogus in more than a way.
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>>127167042
>more poison
Occultist/NB.

A necromancer and a monk is what's needed. Sadly we'll never get a Death Knight sort of character (Maybe Necro + Soldier)

>>127167184
Some swear by glass cannon others hate it. I'm on the fence personally. Melee is by far the strongest in this game though (namely 2H and DW)
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>Find an upgrade doing a low level bounty
Pet belts are diamond dozen in this doggy dog world.
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>>127167184
I think Glass Cannon only becomes a major problem once you hit elite and above difficulties. I start to get ULTRA squishy by the end of act 3. It's fine for melee enemies or if you get the jump on them, but if you have ranged cunts or people who can fucking launch magic attacks at you past walls and shit, you're fucked.
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>>127166142
>DESPISED with the aetherials
Just uninstall and get a refund
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>>127167375
Not to mention his gang outnumbers the rest of humanity like, 30 to 1
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>>127169163
At this point I'm surprised there's no "Mother nature" faction for the wildlife and beastmen.
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Found my first lego plan. Guessing these are rare as fuck.

>5 ancient hearts
Haha no.
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>finding a lore entry about someone and their family
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>>127170536
>and then daddy ate mommy while an aetherial butt fucked her

They're pretty depressing
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>>127170536
The cannibal one?
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>>127170536
I don't care about Burrwitch anymore. I just want Poppa to come home!
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>>127170536
>don't usually give a shit about half of the things in the game, but do really like the flavour the lore titbits give to the world, and appreciate all the effort put in
>do the Devil's Crossing honoured quest
>actually fucking disgusted when I found out he turned his young daughter into the first Slith
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>>127170858
>>127170654
>Cannibal
What's it called in the log entry page?
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>>127171181
Trip South
Three parts.
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>>127171110
>>actually fucking disgusted when I found out he turned his young daughter into the first Slith


Why did he want to make snake people in the first place?

You know, besides the obvious.
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>>127171275
Research. Being a scientist.
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>>127171275
He was just obsessed. He wanted to use the aether to "create life" and kept failing and got so frustrated and consumed he started all the shady shit.

I think the fact that he created naga was purely incidental. he just wanted to create SOMETHING.
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>progress further in the campaign then i did last time
>get new build idea and want to start over

every time. arpg's kill me
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>>127170990

>the kids probably dead
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>>127171742
And it sucks that Act 1 fucking blows ass in GD.
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>>127171742
How many characters deep are you now? I'm on my 6th. Not that bad yet but it'll get worse
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>>127171860
IDD. You can certainly tell they started to find their footing once you get to burrwitch though.
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>>127171221
wat da fug

Pretty cool for it being very short.
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>>127171892
thought my 3rd character the nightblade poison man would be the one i stick with but now i got the itch
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>>127171837
Likely. And there are a number of similar stories to see.

>>127172183
Yep the lore through Notes is possibly my favorite bit.

>that Note you find by a tipped-over wagon by a roadway block thing
>sounds like a wife giving her husband a list of groceries
>mentions at the bottom a hastily-written addition of "a dozen roses"
>guy never got back to his wife

In all seriousness, Grim Dawn is fucking depressing.
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>>127172208
>tfw thought my demo/shaman would be the last but now I'm doing soldier/demo
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>>127172387
The one I described was in Act III. Forgot to mention it.
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>>127172387

>get excited when I get to save people in the wild so that devils crossing is less shit
>choose to give the blacksmithing hammer to the physical guy
>magic guy gets butthurt and leaves himself and his refugees to die in the wild

What a faggot, I just wanted to save you idiots
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>>127172387
It's in the name anon.

>every living thing is made using the blood of an undying god, gone mad from his millenia of suffering through all mortal pain due to his link to them via his blood
>his worshippers on earth actually fucking bleed people dry and dump their blood into a dimensional portal to give it back to him
>either all mortal life dies or a god will suffer in agony for all eternity
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>>127172621
I chose physical guy on my first ever character but I chose the magic dude on my newest character and the physical guy was set up at Fort Ikon with the Black Legion. No clue how he made it all the way over there.

>>127172639
I haven't actually finished the last bits of Act IV but that's pretty interesting to know about Ch'thon.

>finish Kymon's Secret quest
>find out Empyrion is actually Korvaak, some other random God, and Kymon is keeping it a secret from everyone because he's desperate to save humanity
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>>127172992

>made it all the way to the black legion

What a badass
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>>127172639
I've not done it either mate, but if you look at the description for the dead god constellation, it actually tells you pretty much exactly what I said.

It's real fucking neato.
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>>127172992
>>127173130
>tfw you accidentally quote yourself rather than the person you're responding to
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>run into Skeletons for the first time

Oh I didn't realize I was playing Titan Quest 2
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Is there shame in using potions
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>>127174287
Not at all.

If you're relying on them every cooldown though then you might want to rethink your build.
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>>127174287
No, there's more shame in dying
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why

Also are crossbows supposed to be the worst ranged
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What's a good AOE for a ranged Soldier/Arcanist?

I've been using component skills up till now but they are starting to lose their effectiveness
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>>127174871
Why what? Do you think "Malady" is "M'Lady"?

Pistols, rifles and crossbows are pretty much useless. Some fags use them like dual wield pistols but why you would is beyond me.
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>>127175193
Look earlier in the thread.

22k dps with fire strike.
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>>127175636
>DPS
Yeah no, anon. DPS counter is inaccurate and also is a tiny part of a character. Pistols, rifles and crossbows are heavily ignored by the devs and there's fuck all for them. Doesn't help that melee is the strongest.
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>>127175772
Obviously melee is going to be stronger than range, did you forget about the little fact that ranged weapons hit from afar?
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>>127175847
You still ignore everything in the post you reply to while bringing in something else. Pointless.
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I'm only just now learning most of this games systems, and i'm liking it so far. Would it be possible to do some life leech/chaos build where I pretend i'm a zombie? I'm looking at the devotion chart and i'm seeing good stuff early on from ghoul and fiend, etc
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>>127175948
Get chaos damage. Cadence + chaos upgrade. Then get lots of leech and whatever shit on devotion.
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How do I make not shitty-looking webms? Im using webm for retards but everytime it ends up looking like dogshit.
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>>127176072
>>127175948
Chaos damage is largely pointless unless you're transmuting AAR. I guess you could slightly increase the damage of Sigil of Consumption (as long as you get Destruction as well), and the Doom Bolt spell. Other than that, there's bugger all else that does chaos damage.
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>>127166756

how do you sustain the energy cost?
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>>127177456
you can convert 45% of physical damage into chaos damage by using the occultist buff and a 30% physical to chaos weapon
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>>127177579
I have a shitload of Spirit, to start with, and I got a few Ectoplasms on my shit, and my gear helps a lot too. I rarely have to drink a potion, and you'd be surprised how helpful Sigil of Consumption is just to wear things down. Curse of Frailty is a lifesaver as well.

It's VERY squishy though. I got crushed by the Logorrhean because there's just too much bullshit on the screen at once.
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can you build a fire strike commando to be weapon independent and switch between guns and melee whenever you feel like?
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>>127166137
A bit late, but here it is.

It's actually very similar to the build I have right now with my arcanist, but I think I fucked up my attribute point allocation a bit. I might just wait until grim dawn trainer is updated for b29 fully, then just reset its masteries and attributes.

Level 43 at the moment and I'm finding it fun but very fragile. The sphere and mirror should help with this one though.
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>>127177804
Well yeah but that's the same for all elemental damage types, and that way you're not gimping yourself on act 4 bosses.
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>>127178394
>late
Nah dw about it.

>Max IEE
Purely for the energy regen right? I'd personally get curse, heal and the other two raven skills though too.
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Is ranged viable in this game?
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>>127178615
Literally no point in curse imo. By the time its applied you could have already taken out the group of people you're aiming at.

And yeah that +65 energy regen really helps for maintaining energy levels. My AAR ticks for 620 a second right now.

I hadn't actually checked the raven abilities out though, yeah, i'd actually ignore the heal, slap 1 point in the aoe stun, and the other 8 into the elemental aura.
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>>127179264
Also I'm pretty sure you need to put 1 into Ember Claw for the aura. Decent point on the curse, but I'd get both for 1 point for bosses.

No Sigil? Some anons here love it. I haven't used it though.
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>>127153265
Diablo 2's Act 2 was god tier though
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Anyone know if there's a way to change an hardcore character to softcore? I made one hardcore for fun but I liked the build so much he's now farther than i've ever been with my other characters and I don't wanna lose him ;_;
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>>127179434
Again, i'd rather beam everything i can instantly. Seriously, things will die as soon as the beam grazes them. Bosses die in seconds.

Main issue is not dying in a few hits. But you bring up a fair point regarding bosses and curse. Especially if thats what you'll be farming most of the time late game.
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>>127153265
4>3>2>1
Second half of Act 1 is decent while first half is legit' worst out of everything.
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>>127181036
No nullification? Pretty sure it gets rid of enemy reflection. Surprised you max mirror too. I'd get 1 point in Arcane Will too. What level is your character/ the image you linked?
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>>127180916
there is no such thing as softcore, it is a lie told by casuals to lead you astray, put it out of your mind, treasure the time you have
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>>127181974
So even /gdg/ has the "m-muh hardcore" fags. Thought it was only a PoE meme. Damn shame.
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>>127182097

its a single player game it's not like it matters anyways
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AARfags can you please post you're devotion page?
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>you will never stop getting random FPS drops for no reason
>even after applying fixes
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>mfw when my commando is starting to finally put out huge deeps
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>>127182707
Just aim for Heaven Spear or whatever is that called and take whatever +fire damage you can.
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>>127183152
That sounds terrible, anon.
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>>127183152
anon you fucking retard
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>Clarity of Valor
Goddamn I love NOTES.
>>
>This build is alright I guess
>Oh wait I didn't turn on veteran
>suddenly getting stomped

Welp, back to the drawing board
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I want to make a powerful wizardlike hero. I figure Arcanist for the first mastery, not sure what my second mastery should be. I was thinking maybe demo, for fireshot and use a gun. Any suggestions?

In most games I like playing straight up magic guys, but Occultist doesn't look to be my cup of tea with arcanist. How are the shaman's non melee skills?
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>>127185032
What build?
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>>127184535
I took the time to read through the notes I had collected on a chracter that I finished a playthrough with and realized that A) I missed a lot and need to go through and find the rest and B) the writing/worldbuilding in this game is great.

>>127185158
Demo or Shaman would probably be your best bet. Elemental damage from Arcanist would also benefit fire/lightning abilities in either of those trees. Just depends on what kind of damage you want to do I guess. If you were to go Occultist you'd sorta be pigeonholed into a glass cannon Chaos damage build that takes awhile to ramp up if you wanted to be efficient.
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Rate/Hate/Bate me
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How often should you level the class itself for more stats vs better skills?
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>>127186402
cool mask/10

no idea what the build is though. Also do your quests man
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>>127185158
I was thinking the same thing. Some kind of wizard warrior adept at magic and Blade.
I think Atcanist and Nightblade is your best bet. Atcanist for magic, maybe a laser beam to sweep the field of foes and the Nightblade teleport and there OH SHIT button of swords in a tight spot.
Fuck me. Time to go make another character. And maybe man up and do hardcore.
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>tfw might not be able to beat the end boss
Son of a fucking bitch I can't handle the sheer endless respawn of mobs + THE FLOOR IS NOW POISON or BLOOD
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>>127186657
>no idea what the build is though
It's shit. I need to respec points
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>>127187217
also it looks like you have 2 pages you need to read right by the aether crystals
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I thought you get a lego for finishing the final story quest (if you were a high enough level, obviously). Shame.
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>>127186869
NB's dash requires a melee wep IIRC.

>>127185158
Heavy Arcanist and lightly into Demo. Get Demo's stun shit.
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>Update Queued

Oh shit!
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>lot of dialogue changes with NPCs in different towns post-Loghorrean
Neat.
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>v0.3.7.2 (b29 Hotfix 3)

>[Tech]
>Fixed an issue where the player shared stash could be wiped in multiplayer games.
>Fixed an issue where crafting materials would be removed from the wrong player stash in multiplayer games.
>Fixed two uncommon rendering related crashes.

>This was a purely tech hotfix intended to resolve the issue with the transfer stash wiping.

>We are working on an update later this month which will include balance changes and various fixes, including fixes for issues with items.

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showpost.php?p=303928&postcount=3
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Post em, nerds
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Is there a map of Rift spawn locations in Blood Grove and Plains of Strife?
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>>127188918
Level 60 Conjurer.

When to start Elite?
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got bored of path of exile after clearing the story once.

is this for me?
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>>127190419
PoE's game is maps. Levelling and pre-maps is total tedious filler. You haven't played PoE yet.
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>>127191229
if this genre needs beating the story 3 times before it starts then it can fuck off.

later.
>>
>diablo 2 lover. I played it for 10 years and still play it sometimes.
>I never found a good rpg to replace it. Torchlight 2 was funny but too easy and I didn't liked it that much.
>Tried other rpg without falling in love like I did with diablo 2.
>All I want is a good drop system, good characters and skills, and a real difficulty. Also something important, that it have its own spirit to not feel that I'm playing the copy of some random rpg.
>Is grimdawn for me ?
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>>127192708
>trying to fight THAT boss at L51
wew lad what was I thinking
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>>127192781
FUCK why did I not erase the quote before posting
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>>127192781
Exactly. I search a game where when you read "hell" you think
>hell ? That's just the act1 I should do it easily
and 10 minutes later you go back to get a better stuff
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>>127187706
Yeah actually I was gonna use melee as a way to proc Elemental Exchange, which leaches energy from enemies to you. So dash in, smack someone, proc energy regen, then fire away with a spell.
>>
Died on my Pyromancer at 36, the fuck do I play now
>>
so with a pistol using demolitionist, do I want cunning or spirit? I'm not sure if more of my damage would be coming from the fire or the pistol.
>>
Whats the most important skills to get as a 2h Shaman/Soldier (Warder) early on?
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just got this game on steam for a pretty gud price. it's downloading now. what can i expect?

I really enjoyed bauldurs gate: the dark alliance, and campions of norrath for the xbox and playstation way back in the day, how similar is this game to them?
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>>127195534
Cunning is for stat requirements and DoT.

>>127196768
GD is an ARPG. You can expect an ARPG, anon.
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A friend of mine has partied a group of bros and I. Thing is I'm chaos AAR and he's aether AAR. How much of a clash in items (loot) would there be between us?
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>>127197168
Can't you have instanced loot?
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>>127197672
yes you can
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>>127197672
It's the same difference, anon. Instead of everyone seeing the same items, some items are hidden. Same drops.
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>>127198202
Oh
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>>127054743
>Use last skelly key on SoT
>walk 5 steps in
>game crashes

fuck man
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Scorpion Sting or Guardian's Gaze?
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>>127202745
what build
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>>127202784
I dunno. I just made a occult/arcanist and I want to focus on poison
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/labradford

I'm starting a Veteran game from scratch, I can play for the next 2 days straight, anyone wanna play together?
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>>127203751
nevermind it's not veteran, it's only letting me play Normal.
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should prolly get some more resistances
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Just bought GD.
Can someone link me to a good build to start with pls?
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Treasure Troves have to be the biggest scam in GD.
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>almost to Burrwich
>don't even have enough scrap yet to fix that well

This is getting annoying
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>>127207265
Kick the piles of junk north after the first rift.
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>>127167042
Arcanist doesn't feel like "Aether damage" to me tho. We don't even have a weapon buff for Aether damage either.
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I hate how I can't decide what class I want to run. I end up getting to act 2, then get the urge to roll another class.

I think I want to go pure range, but I have no idea if I should run mostly arcanist and a splash of something else, or try a night blade build.

Anyone have a hybrid melee/phantasm blade build with NB? How is it? What about arcanist what are the best nukes to take in the mastery?
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Anyone have a good Occultist/Nightblade build? I'd make one myself but I honestly don't know what constitutes "good" in this game.
It'd be really nice if one of the more experienced players made a short guide about what kinds of skills are good to max, what kind of skills are "one point wonders" and why, and how to properly synergize your skills.
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>item says it would have higher dps if equipped
>equip it
>now it says the older item would have more dps

I'm confused
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>>127207526
>What about arcanist
Grenado + stunning Canister Bomb. One of the most fun builds for me so far.
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I just found out I skipped an area called east marsh in Act I, are the monsters actually supposed to be lvl 50+?
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>>127208367

THANK YOU GOD
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>>127208367
Yes, it was added not long ago and it's tied to an end game quest.
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>lose HC character at Necropolis
>don't want to restart
>don't want to stop playing
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Is this item bugged? It won't summon
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>>127209715
Sounds like you should've played SC :-)
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This looks like a cool item for a summoner
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>>127210474
That is literally BiS for summoners.
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>>127210474
Yea it's amazing looking for the empowered variant right now
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>>127210539
Not quite. Empowered version is though.
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What should I play?
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>>127210716
Wind devil druid
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Should I throw a point or 2 in Brute Force?
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>put ember component on weapon
>suddenly a bunch more ember zombies spawn
>put ichor on
>suddenly more plague

Is this game actually trying to screw me or is this chance
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Onward to Ultimate!
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>>127211739
Build?
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>>127211739
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>>127209782
Yes, it sadly is. Hopefully some hotfix will fix it, but it will probably only happen in February.

>>127210474
It is the best off hand, until you get the empowered version.

>>127211014
What have you got to lose if you don't?
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Let's say i have a modifier for changing % of my physical damage to elemental.
Do i want to increase physical, elemental damage or both in that case?
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>>127212612
Elemental.

Well, it depends, sort of. Basically, skills take precedence over items. So if you have a skill that gives +elemental, and an item that gives + physical, the damage would have already been converted to elemental, so you'd be buffing a gimped physical, instead of buffing your total damage.
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>>127212992
Ah, i see. Thanks.
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>>127213068
No worries. the grim dawn game guide gives you a good idea of how everything is ordered in terms of priority.

AFAIK, conversion on items will also take place before +damage on items. Basically, if you're going to convert damage to a given type, you want to focus on +damage for that new type.
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>>127212040
Looks like this atm.
Working on Arcanist to grab Elemental Balance. and I'll pump all the defense into gear and devotions.
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>>127213241
Awesome, thanks, been wanting to try out something new since I just died on hc
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DEATH
IS ONLY THE BEGINNING
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>>127213464
UNLESS YOU PLAYING HARDCORE IN WHICH CASE
GG NO RE
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Holy shit summoner becomes annoying to play in higher levels. Boss battle = running in circles. Just lacks Benny Hill theme. I guess I'll make another character
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>>127213464
HEY YOU
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>>127213836
Yeah, at like level 30 I quit playing it.
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>>127213464
KILL THE NONBELIEVER!
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Is energy even a factor past the beginning of this game? My current build doesn't really use a whole lot of energy but the energy potions are pretty cheap and instantly restore all of your energy and it seems like any reasonable build would have no energy problems at all once you had the money to stockpile spirit potions.
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I bought the game on the sale and now I'm wondering how to build my Nightblade. I like poison damage so should I multiclass with Occultist? Not sure how well melee + range spells work together tho.

Also, looked into devotions, Can I have procs on every Dual blades different extra skills? As in have a SMALL chance to get 5 different devotion procs in one hit? Not sure if its optimal anyways but interested.
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>>127214168
Play an AAR build, and then say that again.
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>>127214168
It depends on your build. Energy potions have a cooldown, and some builds are super energy-hungry.
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>>127214328
Also, Could Phantasmal blades with focused throw proc up to 7 times since it has 7 projectiles? Or is it 1 proc per spell use?

I have been using Phantasmal blades as my melee attack for a shotgun effect every 3 seconds.
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>>127214328
NB/Occultist is great, i've been running a poison caster myself and been melting everything so far.

In particular you want to max out Nidalla's Justifiable Ends early on. Grabbing Evil Eye/Blood Burst/Focused Gaze from the Occultist tree will give you some AoE potential as well, although you probably want to combine it with the weapon skill from the Mutagenic Ichor component.

Also look out for Marks of Dreeg, the full component has an amazing poison nova ability.
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How stupid is putting around 20+ points in cunning as pure arcanist just to meet weapon requirements? I want revolvers/harbringer sword.
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>>127214531
IIRC that would give you 7 chances to trigger the proc, but it won't proc more than once per cast.
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>>127214720
Can't you just use +stat modifiers on items to reach the requirements?
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>>127215518
that sounds great too.

>>127214617

Would a Phantasmal blade build work with this? I like the extra shotgun every now and then or should I just leave it at level 1 focused?
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>those fucking locked reliquary chests in the skeleton key area in steps of torment

Holy shit. If you want to test the survivability of your build, try to open one of those.
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>>127215707
I'm not sure how damaging it would be but you could definitely squeeze in the points for at least 1 PB/FT.

I skipped them for this build myself, but love them otherwise.Absolutely crazy damage if you're using a 2H.
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>>127214617
Different guy here. I ended up running a build where I shit lightning from everywhere and everything. My damage output is finally looking up and steadily increasing but my survivability is a bit lacking. For example: lost a solid bar and a half of exp to the Voice last night. I reckon I somehow gotta find poison/blood/chaos/aether resist because I really lack on those. Completed my run of Veteran last night with the exception of Bastion of Chaos which I lack the scrap for so once I get it, I'll try BoS once before moving onto Elite.

There are many other build ideas I'd like to try too but not sure if I want to play them all through Veteran. Like
>2H Warder build
>generic poison mage caster dude (maybe poison and chaos, idk) that lets me engulf the world in poison
>maybe something with demo where I burn everything
SO MANY POSSIBILITIES
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>>127215597
I have Soulflayer as of now and I've been ogling that legendary arcanist revolver for a while. I would need a lot of +stat gear for that.
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>Entire steps of torment run
>2 blues, 2 greens and a recipe

wat
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>>127215838
Same here. There's so much shit i want to try, not to mention tackling the higher difficulties.
I haven't been this absorbed by a game in forever.
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Is there any point in levelling PB apart from the number of projectiles if you're using focused throw?

It seems a bit pointless now that I think of it. I could just go 12/12 with heartseeker and leave it at 1? Would give me so many more opportunities for my build. I'd max out pneumatic burst for maximum survivability instead.
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>>127216090
Yep. And I've played since summer of '14 but only ever 'mained' one build. I kind of wish I had every build I wanted to try at around L20 or so that way I could pick up and roll with any that seemed neat. I main melee classes and builds in games so trying something ranged/mage-y seems cool but I also hear melee is severely OP in this game as well.
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>>127216184
Pic related.
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>>127171837
Weren't those the two kids in Devil's crossing with the distrustful bitch?
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The hardest part when creating a new character is coming up with the name.
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>>127215824

Alright, Was just going to ask about that too, does one benefit from dual wield or should I go 1 handed + some magic off hand or just 2h?

Also how does +% dmg work with dual wield? Is it good or should I just get flat +dmg?
Was mainly thinking about Shadow strikes +335% damage. Are two 1-10dmg daggers or one 2-20 dmg hammer better with it?....
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>>127204609
>lolimancer
modding tools will be some shit
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>>127216283
Oh god and this reminds me of all the shit I need on my fucking main, too.
>Eye of the Storm--no clue how to even get
>Shards of Beronath
>misc gear to replace my yellow pieces of shit
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Hi guys. I have some questions regarding the Shaman mastery.

-What are the Pros & Cons of Brute Force vs Primal Strike?
-If I set some proc on Primal Strike, Arcane Bomb for example, will the proc only occur on the enemy I hit with the attack, or do the chain lightnings that leap on the foes have a chance to proc the attack as well?
-Related to the question above, do Markovian's Advantage and Zolhan's Technique proc off the bouncing lightning?
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>>127216361
I don't like putting 18 points in mastery just to put 5 points in one skill.
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>>127216557
Adding to this: If anybody has the Shards blueprint, I will buy that fucker from you.
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how do you go about building a caster demolitionist to blow shit up with?
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>>127216682
Why the fuck did I not even think of that?

But anyway, I'll sort that bit out later; what about just having a single point in the base PB, think that would be okay? I only have 3 in it right now and it's doing pretty good, don't think taking 2 out would lower the damage much.
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>>127217113
Why would you not want +weapon dmg? Especially with Iskandra elemental exchange. Just save those 23 points and put them in PB.
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>tfw can't decide the second class for my 55 soldier

Arcanist would give me even more survivability especially against ranged shit but the demolitionists grenado could help me with my poor single target damage (at least that's what I hope).
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>>127217018
Grenade for single target damage, canister for aoe and CC and one point in mortar + passives to snipe enemy archers and casters.
Add stun jacks or thermite mines if you like them.
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>2 of the same Epic drop from one enemy
Ok.
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>>127217245
Shaman for ebin zweihander of many lightning.
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>no Warder builds up on Build Compendium
>no Occultist poison/acid/etc whatever builds up
Fugggggg
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>>127217495
>he needs people to tell him how to play his character

Shitters leave now.
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I need level 40 farming areas for the necromancer tome. Depraved sanctuary is shit.
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>>127217495
Looks like you'll actually have to think for yourself for once. :^)
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>>127217557
>>127217674
I've never had that type of creativity or insight plus I'm far too worried about fucking up a build X levels in and wasting time on something I was intrigued by but spent so long being shitty at, if that makes sense. Don't care about min/max top dps but I want to be efficient.
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>>127217674
Not this guy, but I think it's nice to have a cookie cutter build when you start, it leave you time to learn how everything works in the game without having to worry too much about not ruining your char
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>>127217262
so... I'm thinking 2 physique or cunning and 3 spirit every 5 levels, make canister take the 10% dmg reduction for crowd control?
grenade does mostly physical damage too so that would scale with cunning but if I 1 point it and put points more into the passives I get the spirit elemental damage scaling bonus... Stun jacks are nice for CC inbetween canister but thermite mines? are they any good at all?
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>>127218089
Meh. I'll fully admit this isn't my first character or my first aRPG. Always been this way with these types of games.
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>>127217594
nvm
dropped it from the grand chest :^)
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>>127217356

That gun made me sad revolvers are worthless till dual wield
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>>127218059
You can respec almost for free in this game, don't be afraid to experiment.
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>>127123837
>>127123063
>>127123431
>>127196383
Any tips for a Warder build? I'm just starting out and I'm not sure what to level. I'd prefer a 2h build where I can hit things and make them explode but anything close to that will do.
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Are there any nice guns late game?

I have been playing with a nightblade using a rifle I found combining it with phantasmal blade for quite some time now, the rifles damage sucks but it has a nice sigil proc and the range works well with phantasmal blades with focused strike. So now I'm thinking of going full raged but everyone seems to hate guns for some reason.

Also does the dualwield skills bonuses work only when dual wielding?
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>>127219090
The nightblade's skill? Yep. And only when DW melee weapons.
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>finding a green that's literally perfect for your build

Feels even better than getting purples, I tell you what.
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>>127219043
Well, the way I play warder is far from optimal, but it looks like this. I don't have anything in my soldier tree yet, I'll invest into soldier survivability passives later. With devotion aim for tsunami and tempest, those help a lot with lightning damage.
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>>127219389
Are the soldier's 2h skills not as good or are the Shaman's skills better? I've found Cadence, Forcewave and Blitz to be really good plus Menhir's Will for survivability.
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Does the arcanists overload thing affect elemental damage for spells? or just for the elemental exchange skill
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>>127218182
Put 3 points into canister stun. The damage is still good for clearing because of the amount of additional fragmets. AOE stun will help you to set grenades as well.
Demo passives shall give you enough damage of all types.
Mines might be your source of dps between cooldowns, otherwise you are stuck with burst damage.
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>>127219594
I hate cadence because it only actuall does shit every third strike, and that third strike can and will miss and eat up the cadence charge.

Savagery buffs all your skills with its charges, too. And its +% weapon damage shit is always in effect.
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>>127119125
So I tried this pet master build out, and got to lvl 32, and god damnit, anon >>127119043 wasn't kidding. I love playing a summoner in PoE, but having the Hellhound and the Briarthorn pet in this game feels like cheating. They are basicly homing missiles that oneshot everything white, twoshots everything yellow so far. Shit's boring yo.

Time to play out that Primal Striker warden I had for a backup plan.
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>>127219656
Its an aura. That extra + damage is applied to you and allies as a general +%, not just for the innate elemental damage IEE gives.
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>>127219594
That depends on the damage type you prefer to use. I decided to focus on elemental damage and shaman's skills work best with that. Also I get to spawn wind devils and put down lightning totems, which do half of the work for me. If you wanna go for physical then soldier's skills are probably better.
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>want to play this
>realize it's not as fun as D2 because there is no realm/server
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do the savagery bonuses affect the %chance procs from soldier and devotion skills?
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It's one of the next game I want to buy, but I need someone to answer 3 questions:
>How is the drop system
>How is the trading system (if there's one)
>How is the online game / community ?
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>finally kill final boss
>his chests contain a few greens and the recipe for a lvl 25 relic

I fucking hate you, RNG.
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>>127220190
They should function as normal because savagery is just an enhanced autoattack.
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>>127219852
Is there a downside to focusing on one but not the other? I was wondering if I'd be able to go for a nice mix to turn my class into something akin to a Mystic Knight.

Also how are pets, are they worth investing points into skills?
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>>127220270
If you beat him at level 50 or up he gives you a guaranteed legendary drop.
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>>127220270
Are you below level 50?

Some stuff, like Legendaries, only drops if you're level 50+.
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>>127220348
I was 57 and he didn't drop shit.
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>>127220348
This is incorrect.
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>>127220316

See >>127219821 . I found pets to be extremely efficiant, but very boring. Although my experience only stretches to lvl 32, but I can't really see how the gameplay gets more engaging further on.
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>>127220270
>recipe for a 235 relic
>not based

I want all the fucking relics so I can make the higher levelled ones. They're asking for relics i've never fucking seen before.
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>>127220316
Pets require some investment to be good in the later levels, which can be a good or bad thing. As for damage types, you want stat towards only one (albeit your abilities may do a mix ) so that you can reach 600%ish of that damage type.
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>>127220465
That recipe dropped the first time like 20 levels ago in act 2.
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>play the game as melee classes
>do no damage and not a signle aoe skill
>reroll as pets
>I can literally afk and the hellhound kills everything while the bird inifntley heals me
Holy hell can they not balance this game?
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>>127220616
>I only play up to level 10
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>>127220704
For melee obviously? Im not going to waste my time not being able to do aoe, but with the pet I beat the game by afking.
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>>127220823
>i want to destroy screens by level 1
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>>127220823
Just a heads up melee in general is the strongest. You're just a shitter tbqh family.
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>>127220567
Then yes that is frustrating
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Does anyone know how weapon-specific devotions interact with dual wielding? Do both weapons need to be the same type, or what? Talking about stuff like Blades of Nadaan or Rhowan's Scepter.
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>>127220874
No but I also dont want to manually click literally every single mob for 8 hours until I can do some skills.
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>>127221124
Nigga, you can fuck shit up with aoe at level 5 with primal strike and thunderous strike, and I am sure other builds can do similar stuff.
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>>127221124
Soldier is complete shit as a starting class and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It has good support skills to put points into, but at the beginning of the game its weak as shit.

However, melee builds become much more palatable when you start building up a reserve of add on items. Slap a searing ember on a weapon, for example, and suddenly you have an AOE ability.
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What do?
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>>127221381
Get in on it
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>>127221124
desu I find the melee oriented skills in this game and in Titan quest pretty lackluster...


I'm not sure why they even continued on with their design of "modify your basic attack and auto-attack everything!"

It's pretty fucking boring, and was always boring. Actually most of the skills in this game mirror skills in Titan Quest. It's like its just a reskin with less classes.

Everyone keeps talking about variety/build options but all I keep seeing is less options than in TQ. Each class has what a max of 3 active skills on average? Cooldowns fucking everywhere so you can only build around certain ones, and then those stupid passives that augment your basic attack

>2016
who the fuck thought this was still going to be good?
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>>127221381
You don't really get a choice there.
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>>127220616
Thats because pet builds are too good in the early levels, not because melee builds are bad.
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>>127221507
The people who backed it 6 years ago.
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Reminder that Titan Quest + Immortal Throne are better than Grim Dawn.
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>>127221781
Maybe with the mods yes.
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These FPS drops infuriate me far more than they should.
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>>127221781
>>127221835
No.
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>>127221872
Disable steam could saving both in game and in steam for GD, and add /nocommit to your launch options for the game. Should fix that right up. It allowed me to go from everything on medium to everything on very high/high.
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>>127222316
Yes.
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>>127222407
I did that yesterday morning actually. The graphics settings themselves haven't been a problem but the entire time I've owned the game (year and a half now), I've gotten consistent FPS drops from so many different reasons. I think playing so much over the past few days has reenlightened me as to how annoying this is: for example, opening the map causes an FPS drop fairly often, mousing over an item drop on the ground, opening a menu, virtually anything.
I actually forgot Steam Cloud for GD saving through Steam itself was still on so I'll see if that being turned off does anything at all but I'm doubting it. ;_;
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>>127222434
I disagree.

Also, I always thought Falcon swoop was shit. I've had it attached to my phantasmal blades for ages now and it's now level 8 and I actually love it. Feels perfect for the ability too.
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>>127222727
Heh yep, gotten two drops in the ~30 seconds after posting this--one from mousing over an item drop and one from trying to pick up an item while moving. Christ almighty this is the most annoying fucking shit I've had to deal with in a game in a long fucking time.
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>>127222407
>and in steam for GD,
how?

also what does /nocommit do?
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>>127222953
probably bad luck, senpai. i've been running it perfectly
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>>127223042
Seems that way. This is the only problem I've had in ~140 hours of the game, and it is present at least once a fucking minute, every minute.
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Is there any way to make Wind Devil last longer than 12 seconds? Leveling the skill doesn't seem to increase the duration. I really like Wind Devil, but a summon that only lasts 12 seconds is kinda awkward.

Also new thread when?
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>>127222956
Not sure about /nocommit but it was recommended to me and it seems to have worked.

To disable in steam for GD, right click > properties > updates > untick "enable steam cloud synchronization for Grim Dawn"
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>going thru labs on new build
>6 FUCKING HERO OVERSEERS SPAWN

HELP
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>>127222895
what's better about this game in comparison? Bsides graphics which are marginally improved.

Still very floaty combat controls, cooldowns, cooldowns everywhere. Small selection of classes/build/skill options, terrible animations, terrible character models.

They've added nothing new since TQ. The only thing they marginally improved upon was the graphics/maybe you can make an argument for slightly smoother combat - but its barely noticeable

You still have terrible ragdolling of models on death, getting stuck on terrain objects where you shouldn't, terrible AI, etc.

What exactly is 'better'?
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>>127223217

Oh my bad, its just one of them playing tricks on me
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>someone mods titan quest classes into grim dawn
>someone mods grim dawn classes into titan quest
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>>127223102
just like everything other skill in this game bro.

Shaman in general seems like it'd be really cool but then the fun starts to dwindle once you get a feel for the playstyle. You can only summon 1 each of the totems and wind devil. There is literally no spammable skill which means you have to rely on some weapon augment skill for your spam, or another class.

The totems aren't even that strong. I just beat the game and the final boss was a pain in the ass because i kept having to resummon the totems, and there's no notification for when they expire. With all the shitty effects on screen you basically have to count aloud while you run around avoid the little snakes and chaos bubbles. It's fucking painful
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>>127223486

>Getting to spear fuckers again

Worth
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>>127223486
These two use the exact same engine, right? Wouldn't that be possible then?
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>>127223303
Combat is MUCH better and I honestly don't know how you can't see that.

There's much more synergy in classes and builds, the game moves much faster, levels are better designed.

Model ragdolling is literally a non issue so I don't understand this, I don't even notice a problem. What's so bad about sending a corpse flying when smashing into it with a huge ass attack?

"floaty" to me seems like a catch all, nondescript phrase used so you don't actually have to directly criticize something.

I don't really experience the "getting stuck when you shouldn't" thing. AI seems just as good as every other ARPG i've played.

Go and play titan quest right now and then come back and honestly tell me it hasn't been significantly improved.
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>>127223303
GD has much better itemization and a bigger variety of viable builds.

Endgame TQ builds were all the same more or less.
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>>127223731
The world just feels so much better.

Also, mobs fighting eachother. I never get tired of jumping into a fight between mobs
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What classes have Passive skills that boost weapon damage? Or auras but not skills that replace default attack?

I got dyslexia so reading all the skills makes me wanna puke.
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>>127223486
Hope someone ports the TQ campaign to GD when modding tools are out.
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How are sword and shield builds in ultimate? Decent clearing speed?
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>>127223882
Every class.

Try reading learn to how, anon.
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>>127224096

>try reading learn to how, anon

kek
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>>127223486
>grim quest
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>>127223508
Nigga, you can stack both wind devils and totems up to three. You should resummon them once you have a chance.
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>additional modifications to the skill still don't show up in the tooltip
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>>127224096
I can read but it's a bit much of a pain in the ass when I can just ask a quick question from a friendly commubnity instead.
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Does defender of devils crossing always drop the first time from Wardens chest?
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>>127224298
Diablo 3 all over again.
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>>127224429
>>127224096

Oh and I guess I should have added that not proc dependent damage.
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>>127224443
It's just bad luck.
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>>127223486
Will i be able to run around with no pants again?
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>>127224298
How would someone even build around Havoc? Cadence is worse than fire strike if going for pistols.
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>quest to kill manticore matriarch in Pine Barrens
>what kinda level up you want senpai
>just fuck my exp up
all at once it was like a scene from bangbros.
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>gonna try Bastion of Chaos for the first time
What am I in for?
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>>127225056
Mostly same as SoT. The charging assholes are annoying as fuck.

New thread where.
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>>127224261
no you cannot. the skill even states that you can't. Have you played the build? You can have one of each. On top of that the only other skill that can be spammed in that class is the swarm, and its mainly used for the debuff, and cannot stack.

>>127223731
Floaty meaning there's an input delay and yuor character isn't responsive at times. I'm not sure how else to describe it. The mouse reticle also sometimes will highlight objects you are not hovering over/or vice versa won't highlight something you are directly on top of..

This makes using all of those fucking terrible autoattack builds where you have to target one enemy for it to do AOE damage annoying as fuck.. I mean approaching enemies in melee without a gap closer is fucking painful enough with how character models collide and bounce around with one another.

>>127223816
It objectively has less character classes and less variety of builds, how is the itemization any more diverse when they've recycled the same basic damage types, and use the same equipment system with the same slots for rings/amulets/robbon/medals? What are you referring to with better itemization? Its the same exact system
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>>127225589
Why are you even here?
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>>127225665
>muh hugbox

Maybe Reddit is more up your alley. You don't need to suck the game's dick to post here.
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I think comparing a base game that is just recently content complete to a game that has been out for years with a solid expansion, and then complaining that one has more classes than the other, is a bit silly. But that's just my opinion, bro.
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>>127224261
ok a was wrong about storm totem. i was thinking about wendigo totem
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>>127225589
>no you cannot. the skill even states that you can't
You literally can.
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>>127225665
because i am actively playing the game, and picking up on its' flaws and want to discuss them?

You don't have to be some rabid fucking fanboy
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>>127225845
It works for wind devil as well.
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HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE

YOU ONLY GET 2 POINTS PER LEVEL AFTER 50?
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>>127225834
not when there's a full fucking decade between their development cycles, bro
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>>127226085
So you're saying that since the game took longer to make, it should have more classes? Are you aware that the game development team practically consisted of a whopping TWO people up until 2012?
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>>127226085
Yes when this was developed with a lot less money with a lot less people in roughly the same amount of time and is still much tighter than its predecessor in most all ways, breh
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Making a new thread.

NO ONE ELSE DO IT
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>>127225976
>>127225870
the main point still stands that those skills are awkward to use. I tried to get 3 totems out for storm and the first expired like half a second later, so unless you have an absurd amount of cooldown reduction its hard to say that would contribute to its dps.

Why even have a cooldown in the first place is my question? You know people want to throw shit around in an ARPG. Balance the game around letting them do that.

There's no viable "rotation" either. I mean you can throw storm/wendigo/storm then a swarm out there or something but it just seems janky.. I'd much prefer if I could lay totems down in quick succession
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>>127226313
WAIT

Make sure you add http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?p=257065#post257065 to the OP.
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>>127226189
>>127226312
You may be happy with a recycled game from your favorite Dev because you want to feel like your giving back or some other bullshit. I just want to see progress within the genre.

And this game isn't it.
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>>127226313
Add the build planner and item database
http://grimcalc.com/
http://gracefuldusk.appspot.com/items
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>>127226085
That statement implies they were made by the same development studio. They weren't. Development for grim dawn didn't start immediately after the release of titan quest, either.

I understand your frustration, but that's a bit decietful.
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>>127226374
>>127226447
Fuck you.
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>49/50 shrines
>come to the final shrine
>restore it
>Ahh After 10,000 years I'm free! Time to conquer Earth!

What do?
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>>127226452
My back is in fine shape. My back doesn't give at all, faggot.
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>>127226447
>>127226447
>>127226447

NEW THREAD

>>127226447
>>127226447
>>127226447
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>>127226593
Join forces.
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>>127226452
So your only gripe is that it isn't revolutionary or progressive?

What are you, an early backer with unwarranted high hopes?

It's a miracle this game was made at all. If you don't like it, that's fine, but it all comes down to opinions and expectations in the end., and most of us seem to be very happy with how the game turned out.
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>>127178394

how do you handle AOE? Suprised you don't have a point in devasation
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>>127182707

I got arcane bomb for AAR and aetherfire for Devastation. The stun is nice on AAR and while there's plenty of ways to max fire there's not many to do for ather.

>>127183152
dumb as shit
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>>127226834
I bottleneck things and just drag my beam across the map.

I really need to make a WEBM of just how powerful but glassy this thing is.
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>>127150103

it's common to see normal AAR and chaos AAR (usually called warlock)
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>>127224820
No it's not. Going for Cadence will also free up a significant amount of Skill Points that you'd otherwise have to spend on Fire Strike for it to be viable.
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>>127223486
I wanna play muh paladin again. It's a real fucking shame that shaman in this game doesn't have a skill that sends out lightnings when you get hit.
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>>127221507
What are you smoking? I am running out of hotkeys.
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>>127228035
Demo has it.
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>>127228085
Also adding on that all the Soldier + Demo oriented gear seem to be very Holy Warrior / Paladin in flavor. Both in looks and based on the little flavor texts that epic and legendary items have.
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