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AWAY Edition

Old >>126902537

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Character Planners, MP Range/Weapon AR Calculator, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans(Base Game & DLC) and Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems/Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer and Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art and Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101, Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info and DLC Guide Scans
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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ass
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this is a micolash free thread

micolash posters please wake up
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>>126931468
I think they beat you to it, this time.
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>>126931468
NO BUT I'LL FORGET EVERYTHING
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>>126931549
this is a really good shoop holy shit
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I have seen some serious shit man
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Can watchers spawn as a boss in Loran FRC dungeons? Will they drop waning temps?

Actually, do 27% waning temps even exist normally or are they offshape korean grind-tier?
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Kirkhammer.
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>>126931729
I just wish Bloodborne didnt have such garbage IQ all the time.

And the Over the top chromatic abberation or whatever the hell it's called.
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>>126931354
I'm still waiting Draw Friend patiently for butchers and Vilebloods smoking.
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Legit considering given up lads. Been trying to beat Laurence for weeks. I've been bested.
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God fucking damn these piece of shit sea giants. How the fuck are you supposed to handle two at a time? I can deal with one, I've got their attack pattern down but the second that second fuckface drops in, I'm goddamn ruined. I just want the fucking Rakuyo.
Fine, I'm a bitch. Anyone wanna gimme a hand with these dipshits?
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>>126931875
What NG+ are you on?
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>>126931782
No. No. Offshape but don't waste time, get weapon with 2 radials and one triangle instead.
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>>126931782

Nope. Either farm for offshape or get uncanny/lost version.
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>>126931925
3.

Yeah, I know,
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>>126931920
Shaman's bone blade
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>>126931875
C'mon anon, I beat him, too. It took me like 2 weeks too. I dropped my weaponfu to use the Saw Cleaver at +10 instead, as it's fast and does good damage to Laurence. You should try that if you haven't.
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>>126932025
Cleaver is my main, does about 500 each hit. I got him into his 2nd phase once really early on but I've never gotten close since.
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I can't believe this but after being stuck on fucking Ludwig for a week I'm stuck on the Living Shits. I can get those bitches down to like, 30% HP but then they all start to charge at me and blast so many shitstorms that I can't keep up anymore

Tell me how to git gud
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>>126931951
>>126931979
But I've already spent all these chunks. Goddamn.

Are there any good physical wanings whatsoever or am I going to be stuck with a poverty droplet from the dlc until I upgrade a new version of the weapon?
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>>126932013
It did jack fucking shit. The fuck is it supposed to do? He took 2 damage and turned around and bitch slapped me.
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>>126932161
I know your pain exactly. You have to be incredibly careful on his second phase. I just stood to his left during it, and when he does his crawl arm stomp combo thign where he crawls forward while slamming his arms a lot, when it looks like he's done his body sorta lowers to the ground and it pancakes you if you're too close, even though it doesn't look like an attack.

I did it and recorded it but my YT account is the same name as my reddit account that I used to show my friends on there so I can't show you here, but watch this japanese guy beat him, I used similar methods of fighting him:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rknqupBd5Hw
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>>126932353
They make enemies hostile to one another and capable of friendly fire. Hit the anchor one with the bone blade when the 2nd one drops and back off, they'll aggro each other and do all of the work for you.
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>>126932227
by not being a living failure.
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>>126931468
No, we shall not abandon the Dream..
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>>126932496
Oh. I thought it just screwed with their direction or the like. That's actually pretty useful. Are they particularly weak to bolt or fire?
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>>126932312
>But I've already spent all these chunks
Getting 16 chunks from 'bosses' like brainsuckers and loran silverbeasts is trivial and MUCH faster than hoping for miracle. You'll also get Insight to buy rock if you spent that too.
>Are there any good physical wanings whatsoever
IIRC loran werevolves drop them but they look something like PHY 21% +12 PHY (if you're lucky, there's plenty of others secondary stats and most are useless). If you're going to try anyway look for werevolves with red aura, they can drop gems up to tier 18.
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Did Luci finally go to sleep?
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For the boomhammer, is it optimal to stick with normal and use the waning slot for a nourishing abyssal with a +fire secondary or go with the uncanny version and slot it for pure physical?

Is the bonus to your trick buff from the nourishing gem actually worthwhile or would you be better off with a triangle for another 31% blunt?

I'm trying to build up a boomhammer to use in pvp but I'm just not sure yet if the trick is actually worth using or worth slotting for over. An abyssal nourishing gives me like 10% less damage for untricked attacks, but with the trick's base value being so low and split damage being so innately mediocre in pvp, I don't know if the trick is even worth using at all.
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>>126931920
stay up on their butts, if they have space they'll dash at you and that's a death
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So Oil urns, they make oil stay on the enemies bodies for more than one hit, right? I swear i just saw that extra fire effect happen twice.
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>>126932887
Looks like it.
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>>126932496
OH MY GOD IT WORKED. The second one killed the anchor one and the anchor one brought the seccond one to like, 25% health.
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OK. Fuck.
I finally bought Bloodborne. What am I in for?
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What do Hunters do on New Year's eve? How do they celebrate?
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which weapon has the highest STR requirement?

what about BLT and SKL requirement?
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>>126933581
Shitposting tripfags, fagot pandering fight clubs, and twink circle jerking.
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>>126933581
GET OUT OF HERE
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>>126933581
Bad camera angles, OPTIONAL BOSSES and convoluted x
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>>126933581
Spoilers if you keep hanging out here before you finish game at least once.
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>>126933582
kill things
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>>126933581
If anybody says they know anything about the lore they are lying to you and trying to push an agenda.
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>>126933581
Should've bought a new PC instead m8. Guaranteed to be a better investment purely because I say so
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Quick guide to making webbums off my pvp exploits?
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>>126933735
>healing church did 9/11
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>>126933581
AWAY
W
A
Y
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>>126933581
Kos, or some say Kosm
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>>126933814
Add dubstep.
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>>126933837
>Old Yharnam was an inside job
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> mfw DLC

Haven't completed the game yet, and I really just wanna kill Ludwig for the sword. Just made it semi decently to harrowed hunter. Am I gonna get raped by the rapehorse?
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>>126933940
Yes, but you'll learn to enjoy it. Rapehorse is a good pain.

Just be prepared for everything in the main game to be disappointingly easy after besting the neighing terror.
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>>126933653
>>126933712
>>126933735
Great. Just like Dark Souls.

>>126933796
Eh fuck it.

>>126933673
>>126933717
>>126933858
Fine, I'm out, but before I do, do I get Saw Cleaver, Hunter Axe, or Threaded Cane?
Because I looked at all 3 of them, and I'm wanting the cane.

>>126933871
I don't even want to know right now.
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>>126933673
AWAY AWAY
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>>126933940
depends on lv/ gear

my little brother walked into the dlc with 45vit and blew through everything
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>>126934014
cane is for man mode. do it.
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>>126934014
Axe is EZ mode

Saw is normal

Cane is Hard mode
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>>126934014
Saw is best at quality but there are better options for a pure quality, it can be one of the best weaposn in the game

Hunter's Axe is cheese for newbs

Cane is for pimpin and at 50 skill it does fantastic
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>>126934014
>and I'm wanting the cane.
It isn't bad but it makes the start harder than other two weapons. It starts shining once you get it to 6+.
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What headpiece does Decorative hunter garb work with? Yharnam hunter headpice looks cool with the shouldpads it adds, but not cool enough.
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>>126934207
OLD HUNTER CAP BEST CAP
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>>126934207
both old hunter hats and the bucket look good with it
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Give me something to draw.
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>>126934074
>>126934121
>>126934131
>>126934167
If there's NG+, ++, etc. in this game, like I remember from Dark Souls, then I guess I'll go with Saw Cleaver for this first run. Thanks for the help /bbg/. And goodbye.

Time for me to clean the fuck out of this city.
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>>126934014
Axe is the baby weapon for new players and favours a passive, bitch-like playstyle for people too afraid to play the game properly and need training wheels.
Saw cleaver is the single highest DPS weapon in the game and dominates pvp so long as you're aggressive, but lacks any tools or options beyond "rush that shit down and mash R1." It's the speedrunner weapon of choice

Cane is versatile but lacks damage early on, gradually scaling into power as you progress through the game. Its power curve is much steeper than the other choices.

Ultimately, your choice doesn't matter too much, as you begin finding new weapons very quickly and can purchase the other 2 starts from the shop after the first area.
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>>126934253
Okay so can a 50 Str build pretty much slap a heavy abyssal on a weapon normally used for SKL and wreck with it?
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>>126933581
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>get like 15 dregs in half an hour in nightmare of mensis
>about a third of them are AFK
>last guy unzips
>does pitiful damage
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50 vit/50 arc, or 40 vit/60 arc?
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>>126934167
MAN. MODE.

>yer aimin' fer a canin'
>yer cruisin' fer a bruisin'
>yer pleadin' fer a beatin'
>yer prayin' fer a flayin'
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Posting update on the request back in the ol' thread because it's been a while.

Taking a bit longer than usual because I didn't like the blandness of the original posture and made a new one.
Wheels are hell to draw oh god why is it wheels.
Should be done and moving on to cainhurst/butcher request this evening. Thanks for being patient.
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>>126934370
Good luck hunter.
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>>126934378
Pretty much. Hell, i got 40 str and still fucking wreck. It's super worth it and pretty much doubles your arsenal of weaponry.
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>>126934340
Jojo style Hunter and Queen Killer as his stand
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level 4 Orphan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXLcFz20Xm0

Guns are fun
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>>126934340
Queen Yharnam, Annalise and Maria at a slumber party in their pjs.
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>>126934590
This stand?
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>>126934567
Schway.
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>>126934340
Good Hunter and Valtr version of this please
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significant other
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need more False Iosefka and Adella porn
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>>126933581
YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE
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>>126934684
Queen Killer the NPC in that pose, I was thinking.
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>>126934708
You want Valtr on the accordion?
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So is Nightmare Frontier literally just "run as fast as you can: the level"?
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>>126934830
No, what we neeed is the Doll and Lady Maria.
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>>126934841
Do you have a pic?
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>>126934604
my fucking sides
does he always get stuck in that loop?
and you got the backstab stun on his 2nd form multiple times in a row

really surprised at how many hits you took without dying
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>>126934503
Oh fuck, that's hilarious. I love it
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>>126934931
no, that's yahar,gul.

nightmare frontier is literally just 'roll around in ankle-deep poison while sweaty hairy guys throw rocks at you'
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Does anyone have a good idea on how to beat that hostile hunter dickhead in the cathedral? Two shots and I'm done for.
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>>126934843
Yup, but instead of the Accordion it should be the saw part of the Whirligig
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>>126935114
don't make me say it
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>>126934960

yes

all my yes
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>>126935114
get better gems and clawmark runes
blood defense armor

parry him
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>>126934503
you make the linework in sai or what?
It looks like you put together individual lines to form the wheel, why don't you just used the circle tool?
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>>126935178
>2 blades
>1 hand
How?
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Alright, so I'm lvl 93 right now and here are my stats (this is my first playthrough).

VIT: 42
END: 25
STR: 42
SKI: 19
BT: 7
ARC: 7

I avoided putting points into arcane and bloodtinge since I'm focused on melee and only use my pistol for staggering anyways.

One thing I've nocited however, is that when I go to level up an increase in STR at 42 and SKI at 19 provides the same exact stat increase to my weapon attack, so my question is why is that? Is it because skill doesn't increase it that much and my STR is high enough that the diminishing returns make it only give the same increase as skill or something? Is there any reason why I should be putting points into STR instead of skill right now?
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>>126935016
I don't, unfortunately.
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>>126935023
If you do what I did then yeah, he gets stuck in the loop.

And yeah, I took a beating. The important thing is to not be sprinting at all times because the counter damage is so retardedly high.

The backstab stun is weird too because I dont think you can pull it off with too many enemies in the game - reliably at least.

If I had all the stamina runes I could have charge R2d his back three times, which is gonna be useful in NG+7 I guess when I finally get the gems and runes.
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>>126935230
I'm not a fan of using preset shape tools in work but who knows maybe I'll use it more in the future or whatever.
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>>126935016
This nigga
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>>126935269
scaling after 25 is worse than scaling under 25

that's why many people go 50str/ 25skill because even on weapons with D skill scaling the returns under 25 are still decent

i'd prioritze getting to 50str first though
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Reposting from older thread:

VIT: 45
END: 25
STR: 45
SKL: 30
BLD: 10
ARC: 15

So, /bbg/, how badly did I screw up?
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>>126935269
25 in an attack stat begins diminishing returns, which is likely why.

Also you put too much into END, for future reference
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>>126935178
>delicious... clonecest? I think
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>>126935391
>beat every chalice
>still can't make root depth 5 ihyll dungeons
Why.
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>>126935554
>>126935586
Alright, thanks guys I'll just focus on STR then.

Also I'll try to put less into END on my next playthrough, what is a good amount?
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>>126935605
Did you make at least one own FRC Ihyll root or other FRC D5?
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>>126935580
For a first play it's not awful. Less END next time, and unless you're basing the build around BLT or ARC, leave it at base
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>>126935671
15 with a stam rune is plenty

with 25stam and a rune you could unleash a 4hit combo twice or something ridiculous, you'll never be in a position to do that though
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>>126935671
15 is a good amount usually, 20 if you're using stamina hungry weapons. The game is pretty generous with stamina.
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Vit: 40
End: 20
Str: 30
Skl: 13
BT: 7
Arc: 40

Any advice where the last 20 points should go? (I know I goofed with 30 str)
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>>126935915
10 arc and 10 vit

how is this even a question
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>>126935580
Not bad at all. If you have the patience to grind chalices for a heavy abyssal gem you can use all the skill weapons effectively too.
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>>126935915
10 to vit, 10 to arc
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>>126935915
Maybe get more skl and use Moonlight sword?
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>>126935743
No, because I am completely out of ritual blood (5) and I guess this time the game didn't want me to be able to buy more after defeating Yharnam. I'm kind of pissed right now.
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>>126936013
Isn't the req 12 skl?
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>>126935915
>30 str
>13 skl
You fell for the cannon meme, didn't you?
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Worth making an elemental/arcane Blades of Mercy?
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>>126936313
You can't
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What does /bbg/ think of my first Ludwig kill? I think it's pretty stylish.

ignore the meme-weapon, I started using it on launchday, unknowing it would acquire this status
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>>126935605
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>>126936196
Nevermind then, it may be better to level str and vit for the Moonlight sword or vit and arc for an arc build. But I heard arc scaling is shit, don't know how much it would change from 40 to 50.
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>>126936404
I saw it earlier and I just wanted to say it was a pretty slick kill
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>I use this shitter weapon b-but I'm n-not a shitter, I'm totally not like them, I simply like the weapon, I swear!

These are the worst people ever, even worse than those faggots who call other players shitters for using a certain weapon. Disgusting.
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>>126936404
Pretty good but
It wasnt MLG enough
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>>126936404
Can someone explain why Ludwig's is a meme weapon? I just don't get it, it's pretty much just a claymore right?
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>hosting and invading with 99 ARC
>mfw kos parasite does over 400 per tricked r1 dash
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>>126936780
Eat my Rakuyo, bitch :^)
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>>126936937
anything that is popular is a meme

breathing is a meme
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>>126936937
On first release weeks everybody used them and people got rekt by it 90% of the time. They got mad and that's how everybody started to call it as a meme weapon
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>>126936937
>>126937056
>>126937067
It trivializes pve, how new are you?
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>that camera/lock on in the amygdala fight

jesus christ, please tell me this is as bad as it gets.
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>>126937067
Oh so basically "it's the new chaos zwei da legend lives" bullshit?
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>>126936780
Wait, so you're insulting them for using a weapon and insulting someone for saying they shouldn't use that weapon?
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>>126936937
newfags all over the shop. it's basically crutches for pve.
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>>126937203
the fight is much easier if you don't lock at all. I found it to be the case for both her and bloodletting beast
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>>126936273
Yes. I don't regret it that much though, I'd rather have the option to use a lot of fun things than hit a little harder with a particular stat.
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>>126937203
>using lock on for anything bigger than hotdog

It's like you like being murdered because you couldn't see anything.
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Need help with rom in lower pthumerian labyrinth layer three, but i never tried those chalice thingies before today so i dont know how to coop there.
Do i need to post the glyph? Its jjph
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>>126937287
No, I'm insulting people for their childish behaviour, learn to read.
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>>126937176
not as new as you are it seems
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>>126937354
Go into network settings, set a password, post it here, then ring a ding ding
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>>126937391
Well, I'm playing since day one.
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Is there something that governs whether you get all your vials/bullets replenished when you go to the Dream/respawn at a lamp?

Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.
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>>126937457
Right i forgot about that, password is pippa
Give me a few minutes tho, im helping people with gehrman
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where were you when you realized the KIRKHAMMER is the best weapon in the game?
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Chikage builds all over the shop...

You'll have one, sooner or later...
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>>126937580
Do you even have them in your box? If you don't have them they won't replenish.
Duh.
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>>126937501
so you are new
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>>126937642
it's slow with heavy stam consumption yet doesn't have the damage to make it worth it.

also
>blunt
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>>126935391
Holy shit I think we fought at Nightmare frontier once and we killed each other. My last swing killing you as you busted me with the canon.
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>>126937642
when I first started it brother
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>>126937580
lol christmas babies. there's a limit to them, if you run out they don't refill like estus. save some souls and buy vials/bullets everytime you got some extra.
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>>126937642
On my first playthrough. It's carrying me hard.
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>>126937775
Right, because you've been playing from?
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>>126937631
I'm not able to help anyway, just telling you how.
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>>126936937
I don't like it beacues I see it so damn often people call the pizza cutter a meme weapons but compared too ludwigs and rakyyoyko it's nothing. I fucking hate seeing how often people used it and honestly it ruined the game for me a bit and made me feel like there were no interesting weapons. I'm glad the dlc brought me back.
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Why not all consumables auto refill from storage is another question. MIYAZAKI
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CLAIRE
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>>126938027
Word not being able to refill at lamps sucks too I gotta kill myself after too many invades and it's kind of lame.
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>>126938027
its because he wants to punish you for going back to the dream like a faggot

real men stay on
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I get that the Saw Spear is a meme weapon but it looks cool. How do you build for it?
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>>126937963
Aww thanks anyway
If anyone feels like helping a poor soul, im here
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>>126937783
That's not me, that's an npc summon called Queen Killer. He sometimes appear as an enemy in chalices.
The guy you fought was probably cosplaying him
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>>126938082
I'VE BEEN TOASTED
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>>126938143
25/50

or 10/50 15arc
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>trying MLGS on a build with 99 ARC
>mfw hitting L2 or R2
>beam alone deals like 800 damage against a player
Jesus fuck.
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So is everyone who summons for Rom just as vacuous as her or am I having bad Luck?
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>>126938465
>trying Bloodletter on a build with 50 BLT
>mfw hitting L2
>aoe alone deals like 1400 damage against a player
???
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>>126938738
>1400
Bullshit.
Even 1200 is only on a counter. And that's with offshape gems.
Unless you've invaded or was invaded by some low-level as fuck guy.
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>>126938738
>tfw
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In desperate need of help with HMPH.
Is anyone up for some co-op?
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>tfw the only vampire hunter D reference in bloodborne is the church pick
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>>126938968
Password/Level?
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>>126938738
>fight bloodletter user
>they spam the dash R1 like it's a goddamn wheel
>when that doesn't automatically win them the fight they back off and try desperately to bait me into L2s
Every single time. I can't think of a weapon that's more boring to fight against.
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>>126938465
Speaking about Gilgamesh, what's a good Fate Gilgamesh build?
I guess a shitton of ARC, LHB for mongrels, call beyond/blacksky and arcane gemmed MLGS?
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Would anyone mind helping me on NG+ Amelia? Ringing at Cathedral Ward Lamp. Pw: bbg123
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>>126937348
>>126937315

good advice, beat her first try without locking on constantly
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>>126939203
I'll try to help you
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>>126939068
Nevermind, got that little bitch.

Seriously, the cheapest boss in whole series.
Cheesed him back with saw spear transform attacks and by spamming skulls during the second form. I ain't fighting you fair, you old hag, you fucking 9999 endurance cheating bitch. FUCK.
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>>126939425
It is an old man.
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>>126939615
I know. I just want to humiliate him for making me this mad.
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is there anything worth doing in nightmare frontier after killing amygdala/picking up messengers gift? i haven't killed the bell woman yet or the npc hunters and don't want to deal with that stuff if there's no alternate path, especially since my 59 insight means i'm guaranteed to get frenzied even if i run past one of those brain guys
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>>126931549
Beautiful.
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Who is the worst Old Hunter?
I summoned the one with the beast claw and he just ate ass.
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>>126931729
>>126932592
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>>126939731
HMPFH HMPFH HMPFH!
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>looking for people to help fight Ludwig
>beckoning bell summons "Frank Drebin"
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>>126939396
Cool I'd appreciate it. I can get her down to like 1/4 health or less but I keep fucking up. The old huner in CW is useless, too. She gets killed on the way there.
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>>126939381
Glad it helped. Honestly big bosses like that are the first time you really learn that it's not always best to lock on.
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>>126939795
Henriette in CW.
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>>126939138
>fight some guy with my Bloodletter
>he believes I'm gonna hit R1 after the dash
>instead wait and hit R1
>deal 600 damage
>he panicks and backs off to heal
>parry him and finish him with a L2 just because
Every single time. Legit story bro.
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Quick, extremely dumb question: Is there a way to get The Old Hunters offline, or without PSN? Internet is slow enough out in cousinfuck nowhere, I'd never get the DLC online.

Just a physical copy or something?
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>>126939795
Defector Antal, sometimes the guy just keep hitting the air before the boss wreck his ass
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>>126939954
P-please, stop...
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>Gilbert's voice
>Gascoigne's voice
>Eileen's voice
>Simon's voice
>Ludwig's voice

Why does FROM have the best voice actors? They all do such a great job, not only in this game, but the Souls games, too.
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>>126939951
That's from the movie 13 ghosts right?
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>>126940269
So long as you updated Bloodborne to the most recent version all you have to do is buy the DLC and you won't have to do any major download.
I know retailers like Gamestop, Walmart and the like sell cards that you can type the code into but they are usually five bucks extra.
You're better off buying it from the PSN or Amazon.
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>>126940432

>gehrman's voice when he says "even the doll, if it pleases you"

i think i only listened to that dialogue once or twice but damn it sticks in my head all of these hours later
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>>126940447
Yeah. Underrated movie if you ask me. Not much in terms of rewatchability.
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>>126940432
Fake Iosefka and the Oedon Chapel Dweller stole the show for me.

All the degrees of crazy.
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>>126940094
I'm ringing right now
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Is Simon a nigga or what?
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>>126940432
It's entirely possible that they are just a few multitalented people. Patches the Spider is voiced by Lautrec, for instance.
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>>126940432
Because burgers aren't used to professionals, they're used to celebrities dubbing everything.
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>>126940432
I think the reason is because you never hear the voices anywhere else. I can't think of any other role the voice actors in Bloodborne have actually done.
Their anonymity is their greatest asset.
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>>126937379
Stop being childish
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>>126936273

>cannon meme

This is heretical talk, cannon is a way of life.

>>126937317
You can also use Gatling gun now too
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>>126940793
Motherfucker, have you ever heard of a nigga that don't like guns?
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Random Lore question with Bloodborne.
Are Hunters essentially werewolves or are they more like vampires? Weird thing but that has bugged me for a while now.
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>>126940670
Cool
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>>126941040
Neither, they're uh... hunters...
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>>126941000
Alexander Dumas, he was more of a sword guy.
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>>126941000
This would be the first time
But the skin color... mexican maybe?
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>>126940828
Underages aren't allowed on this site.
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>>126941164
Please, that motherfucker is about as black as Rachel Dolezal
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>>126941040
They're hunters, nothing more.
It's when they get blood drunk that they become beasts.
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it's possible for ANY gem of any type to be an offshape if you get it as a drop, right? And it can be any shape?

I would fucking kill for a %21 phys + 33 phys flat as a circle for blunderbuss with base blt.
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>>126940912
Are big guns worth using if you don't have any point investment in bloodtinge? I also feel that as a str/arc hybrid my bullets are gonna be a precious commodity.
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>>126941257
Do you see that motherfucker climbing over a fence?
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Ng+ amelia anyone? CW lamp, pw: bbg123
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So I'm considering doing a BLT build, what kind of stats does one usually have for that? 50/15/base/25/50/base?
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>>126941520
both the regular cannon and gatling gun are worth using with base blt

church cannon is not
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>>126940202
Tower Knight taught me that shit
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>>126940804

I know the guy that does Patches is a TV actor in Britain. Never looked too deep into the rest of their casting, but I'd imagine that's their big strength; they don't cast VAs, they cast actors, and they don't cast famous people, they cast mid-level working actors who aren't too far up their own ass. And since they're Brits they've probably all got stage experience under their belts too.
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Why won't this fucking baby shut the fuck up.
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>>126941530
Maybe that's why he's there, he jumped through dimension searching freedom, and a place to sell his oranges
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>>126941645
ringing
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>>126936029
yharnham unlocks blood 4. to buy blood 5 you have to go to NG+
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>>126941645
still ringing, I can't seem to find you
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Still need help with rom in lower pthumerian labyrinth layer three, glyph Is jjph, password: pippa
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Does going into ng+ effect chalice dungeons?
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>>126941827
Patches laughing like an asshole for 30 seconds was perfect.
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>>126942121
No, they stay the same. The only thing that changes is what Chalice resources you can buy in the Dream
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>>126942031
Ok let me restart cause I'm online and everything.
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>>126942121
I am inclined to say no but I am not an expert on the matter.
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YES FUCK YOU STUPID ORPHAN
TOLD YOU I WOULD SMASH YOUR FUCKING SQUID SENILE SHIT
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>>126941391
Where do you think he got those hair?
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>>126941659
bloodletter is the best BLT weapon and requires 14 STR. so a typical build is 50/X/14/15/50/6 to use every BLT weapon. military veteran is the best starting origin

it is interesting to go 25 SKL and use 1h modes and reiterpallasch, but lately it is even more popular to go 28 STR and gain access to 1h bloodletter, gatling gun and church cannon monster-guns
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>>126940432

http://www.frognation.com/e/fn_news/

It's these guys who get all the voicework done, actually.
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>>126941659
28/12/50/-
for strength heavy bloodletter with church cannon, gatling gun and any light firearm you want

10/25/50/-
for chikage with some bowblade action and any light firearm you want

the other guy is a fag
14/15/50/- is shit
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Is it possible that the game controls with which weapon you're farming and doesn't drop gems optimal for that weapon?
Because it sure seems like that.
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>>126942409
I see. In this instance would stamina be base or is the X reliant on target level?
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>>126942650
I wish there was a way to trade gems, at least.
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>>126942392
One too many bolt papers.

Also jews.
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Ringing again in CW for ng+ amelia. bbg123
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>>126942762
Is there no drop function like in DaS?
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>>126940432
It's not because of FROM it's because of frognation. Give credit where credit is due, young anon. But props to from for always going to them.

>>126940798
While this is true, you also forgot a lot.

Djura is the voice of Chester/Vendrick.
The voice of patches played patches in every game (dark souls 2 doesn't count, although pates voice actor is just as good, and oddly enough he's actually really famous) and played Lautrec (would have been good if yurts voice actor came back, but oh well)
The voice of Laurence also played Creighton
Alfred is the voice of Targray in dark souls 2, and the voice of Solaire, Vamos, and The giant Blacksmith in dark souls 1


Also dark 1/2 and des all share a lot of voice actors. Bloodborne and half of ds2 is really where a lot of the voice actors were new (to souls).
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>>126941827
Yeah that's the real trick. The problem with US voice acting is that there are people who are professional voice actors. That doesn't mean people who are well and truly, genuinely talented at voice acting specifically and use their specialization to master their craft, it just means that there's a fallback performance career for would-be thespians that lack the talent or dedication for stage theatre or broadcast performance. Their selling point is being just ever so slightly better at voice acting than some random teenager picked up off the street, but every bit as cheap to hire. Most elsewhere, performers are variety performers and someone that does voice acting will also do stage acting, television acting and even stand-up comedy. The breadth and well-roundedness combined with actual talent is what makes them great performers, both in voice acting and beyond it.

But those sorts of actors are too expensive in america to be worth a developer's while when they can spend a fraction of the money on hacks like Jameson Price and still have people hang off their dick like 2-bit celebrities.
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>invade Mensis
>host jumps of the cliff

For what purpose
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Someone post the Chalice dungeon speedrun guide.
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>>126942462
>>126942874

My bad. These guys are great, and I hope they continue doing more work for FROM.

Especially Valtr's VA. Goddamn, what a sexy voice
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>>126942869
nope, discard just deletes the item

but I was talking about an intentional trading system, with a UI

just because it would be very suitable given the gem grind and more people would end up pvping instead of just farming
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>>126942926
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>>126942884
the purpose of: you're fucking annoying and I'm trying to progress

I do the same thing when I don't have proper gems.
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>>126942926
Check the ssjnugget link in the OP.
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>>126942949
Valtr's voice actor is Jason Pitt yeah? He voiced Vengarl in dark 2.
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>>126942949
and they made valtr looks look nordic as fuck to match the voice
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>>126943106
Then just play offline nigguh
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PC RELEASE WHEN? IT WAS LEAKED A FEW MONTHS AGO. MIYAZAKI HEARD OUR CRIES.
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>>126943153

Yep, and I really liked his voice, too.
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>>126942874
The Doll and Maria are also the same VA as Maiden in Black.
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>>126943193
I'm not going to bother going into offline mode just because I reached a nightmare area.

That's even more of an annoyance.

I'm just going to jump off an edge and waste your time, like you're wasting mine.
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>>126943225
It will be available on PC after the Demon's Souls PC release
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Thanks on Amelia! You've inspired me to use the church pick more, holy shit. That damage was crazy
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>>126943342
>waste your time

>implying

Thanks for the dreg
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>>126943357
If you want the biggest damage possible, prepare to grind for thrust gems for a hundred years

It is a super fun weapon, though.
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>>126942462

>frognation
>Not a French VA company
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God I fucking love Logarius. Such a good fight.

And holy shit, my STR/ARC playthrough is so much fucking easier, and a lot more fun considering I get to use all these toys I've been gathering.

Augur of Ebrietas 2stronk.
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>>126943356
I'M EMULATING DES AS WE SPEAK.
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>>126943387
Not that anon but, if you only wanted the dreg, and still got it, why are you complaining?
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>>126942874
I'm pretty sure the guy you talk to at the central Yharnam lamp is the same as the guy talking to Wilem in the cutscene after Amelia.
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>>126943480
>>126943357
Actually for an ARC build, fire church pick is probably really good
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>>126943505
Do the same with Bloodborne then
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>>126943336
You're right. I never looked at the grill voice actors.

Annalise and Iosefka is the Darkmoon Knightess and Quelana, and Yuria the Witch.

And the voice of the messengers, is the voice of the maiden knight (whoever that is, probably vince or nico, or a cut character).
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>>126943558
Not complaining, just curious why some would suicide instead of fighting an enemy. I was excited the first time I was getting invaded in NF.
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>>126943558
Too many anons he probably was not complaining and is another entirely.
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>>126942874
I remember seeing a video interview where Pate's VA talked about how and why he got the role. It was pretty funny, you don't usually think of voice actors as having any sort of player-context for their role in games, or really even ever playing the game they act in.
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>>126943492
I can't stick to builds like you guys, I just prefer to go with the flow you know what I mean?
Does that make me an idiot?
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>>126943773
you got your answer
because it's just an annoyance
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>>126943106
>>126943342
>>126943847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjkNNDuAb9A
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>>126943480
I was going to ask, which moves count as thrust?

Like when it's transformed, are your swings counted as "thrusts" because the point is 90 degrees to the handle?

I have some good thrust gems in my rifle spear atm.
>>
>when you pvp and realize you still have impurity equipped
>when you beat the boss in co-op and realize you still have corruption equipped

Rune change on the fly when
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>>126944057
The entire transformed moveset is thrust, though only certain untransformed attacks are.
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>>126943773
See "the first time" is great, but when you realize that some 27% gemmed out twink is invading you, will waste time actually searching for you, and will then just two-shot you, it kind of loses it's charm

I personally don't back out of an invasion, but you just have to understand that not everyone has the patience for it
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>>126944043
LOL rekt xD
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>>126938860
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>>126943842
It makes you PvP frag bait
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>>126943104
>All that text
>Literally just says "Start dungeon, pull switch, kill boss, move on.
>This is somehow considered a "speed run" guide.
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>>126944180
that's after his dodge aka counter damage.
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>>126944180
Don't you lose health when you transform the bloodletter?
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>>126944268
It gives you instructions on materials you need to progress
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>>126944268
what are you talking about?

it givens an introductory to the layout of chalices for someone new that doesn't understand them and then just tells them exactly what materials to collect and which bonus areas they're in
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>>126944126
Yesss, I'm definitely gonna try it out.
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>>126943342
>>126943106
Did you know that if you're below level 30 its impossible for you to be invaded? Like seriously, you can even ring the small sinister bell, there is no condition possible that will spawn the PVP bell maiden no matter what.
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>>126944504
no one would make a BL30 just to avoid being invaded

you're only going to see the opposite where people stop at 43 just so that they can be as high as possible and still invade all the way down to 30
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I DID IT
I FUCKING DID IT

LORAN DARKBEAST LEVEL 4
FUCKING
U
C
K
I
N
G

DEAD
E
A
D

GOD FUCKING DAMN THAT FELT GOOD

Jesus fucking christ my heart is pounding
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>>126944327
Yeah 20% but you can invade with weapons tricked.
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>>126944778
Good job anon
>>
got the ending in which I turned into a fucking space squid, is this great or not?
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>>126944349
>It gives you instructions on materials you need to progress
So do the chalices.
>>126944424
>what are you talking about?
>it givens an introductory to the layout of chalices for someone new that doesn't understand them
That's a bit of a straw graspin defense, don't you think? the "instructions" to the layout literally boil down to "there is a switch somewhere between where you start and the boss room" Its about as helpful to 'someone that doesn't understand' as telling them nothing at all.
>tells them exactly what materials to collect and which bonus areas they're in
I admit that it does, but this could have done a lot more simply and a lot more efficiently in a text format.
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Hows that Bloodtinge character coming along /bbg/?

I gave up, therefore carry on in my steed
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>>126944907
>but this could have done a lot more simply and a lot more efficiently in a text format.
Then create a better guide for us, anon

No one is forcing your to use that shitty one
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>>126944907
only the first few lines of text and an image of general layout shows anything about basic stuff

the rest lists
>dungeon order
>materials required to make a CD (when you wouldn't know materials needed if you don't even have that CD yet)
>each layer boss
>materials necessary to create the next CD in the progression and their location in the layer

you're bitching about nothing
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>>126944730
>no one would make a BL30 just to avoid being invaded.
That's a baseless statement. I made a BL15 character, in from games upgrading gear yields more increase than upgrading the character. at 15 I only summoned help for Ebriettas and Logarius, and even then it wasn't that I couldn't beat them, just I got lazy after a few tries and decided I don't wanna do more runs.
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>>126945213
>"I'm just trying to progress through the area to finish my build"
>"JUST STOP AND MAKE A BL30 INSTEAD SO THAT YOU CAN'T BE INVADED"
- you
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So where should my 3rd Blood Rock go?

I already have a +10 Beast Cutter and Kirkhammer.

Cannon or Amygdala Arm?
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>>126945348
>he only has 3 blood rocks
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Can you parry with the Blacksky eye?
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>>126945071
>you didn't make one so don't complain.
Holy shit that's a classic, could you be more of a passive aggressive faggot right now? What, did you make it and I pushed a button? I'm sorry I insulted your mspaint masterpiece, kike.

>>126945181
>>dungeon order
Oh wow, because nobody could figure out to use the next chalice they get, right?
>>materials required to make a CD (when you wouldn't know materials needed if you don't even have that CD yet)
Because the chalices don't fucking say it directly, right? oh wait, THEY FUCKING DO.
>>each layer boss
Oh wow, such information, much knowledge.
>>materials necessary to create the next CD in the progression and their location in the layer
Yay we listed the same thing twice.
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>>126945348
Neither go with Holy Moonlight Greatsword.
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>>126945476
Someone is mad as fuck
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>>126905452
Alright, same guy here. How did I do this time?
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>>126945476
That guide was very helpful, go fuck yourself
>>
How should I gem Rakuyo? Thrust, phys atk, or skill scaling?
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Can you only farm circular gems once per glyph?
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>>126945476
Did your day not go too well anon?

You are seriously being angry for absolutely no reason

Again, no one is forcing you to use that guide if you
Me personally (an other anon, I imagine) found it very useful when returning to the chalice dungeons
I also set it to a few friends, which also found it very useful

I honestly do not get what your deal is
>>
>>126945476
all of the information listed is useful to have in an image instead of just not knowing or having to manually check at a ritual (or you may not even have the CD to check yet)

the image is good for new and old alike and I open it every time I start a new character

you're crying about literally nothing
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>>126945343
Anon, the guy (you?) said he doesn't wanna go offline just to stop being invaded, right? I merely commented that being invaded can be avoided at 30. Did you or did you not say nobody would make a level 30 character just to avoid being invaded? Because I assumed that's what you said here >>126944730 and simply replied saying I did, and added a justification that it wasn't difficult because I kept my gear upgraded.

Now where in all of that did you get me all caps telling you to stop and make a bl30 build just to stop being invaded?

If you don't agree, that's fine, but don't be a fucking asswipe about it when I try to reply to you like you're a human being, I'm sorry i tried to treat you with respect as an equal, you're clearly too much of a faggot to be treated as anything other than trash.
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>>126945647
U G L Y
G
L
Y
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>>126945647

Would-Smash-With-a-Kirk/10
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>>126945698
>Did your day not go too well anon?
>>126945672
>go fuck yourself
>>126945589
>Someone is
>>126945751
>you're crying

Oh look, more fagots.

Not really sure why I expected any of you niggers to have a proper reply.

And you wonder why nobody wants to touch the souls community with a ten foot pole, its autistic faggots like you, I hope you all fucking die in a fire.
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>>126945682
No.
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>>126945007
>Actually grinding for offshapes when Bloodletter one-shots just as well with 27.2% physical

Laughing my ass off family member. The casuals will all be gone by the time you get those gems.
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why does /bbg/ hate axe
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>>126945876
>nobody would make a level 30 character just to avoid being invaded
irrelevant to the original argument

but yes, no one would

challenge builds, sure
twinks, sure
intentionally limiting yourself to BL30 for the sake of not being invaded in like two areas? no, no one would do that
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>>126946009
The only one with autism here is you my friend lol
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>>126946009
>kicking up a stink about a fucking guide no one forces anybody to use
>its autistic faggots like you

The fucking irony. Inb4 I was only pretending
>>
>>126946009
Are you being serious?

What kind of reply did you expect, honestly?
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>>126946101
>irrelevant to the original argument
Anon, what original argument? I literally just replied with the fact that you can't get invaded sub-30. then you replied with that statement, to me that IS the original argument, and I don't understand why you keep saying "nobody would" I told you four times now I did, why are you being such a prick about this?
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>>126945891
>>126945934
I don't know what I expected from you guys
>>
>>126945647

I've seen women with black eyes, but never seen a woman with white rings around her eyes. That's fucking spooky.
>>
Im making a 50 skill build. What weapons are good/fun to use?

Also bonus question: What's better physical chuch pick with thrust gems or FIRE PICK
>>
>Going through all these chalices
>So many echos I don't even know what to do with
I wish there was a was to buy insight or something.
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>>126946009
I still don't understand why you're crying in the first place. Because you don't like an image that everyone uses? Have you considered not using it?
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>>126946059
>backpedal backpedal
>charge R2
>backpedal
It's a boring, passive weapon favoured by boring, passive players. The only people that still use it after BSB are the ones that never graduated to ludwigs or want to pretend they're different from memebladers while using the less-efficient imitation memeblade.
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>>126946013
Weird, I tried both dungeons in the google doc, got a +26% blood circular on my first try for each, but haven't been getting anything except Ritual Blood(5)s since.
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>>126946307
Complementing this guy's question, what's a good early level skill weapon? I don't want to use that shitty cane.
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>>126946219
>>126946187
>>126946172
Yay, more niggers.

>Mention you disagree with something.
>Circlejerk starts attacking you.
>herpederp u must be mad autism.

You do understand when someone says "hey, this is kind of silly" or "I don't agree with this" or so on, if you just said "welp ok" or just ignored it it would go away, but no, defense force has to be in full effect 24/7 right?

>>126946359
>why you're crying in the first place.
See? Tell me you see this shit, Literally had to say "well we disagree" But this nigger here has to be a passive waste of fucking resources and bait a fucking aggro response.
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>>126946238
>challenge builds, sure
>twinks, sure
>intentionally limiting yourself to BL30 for the sake of not being invaded in like two areas? no, no one would do that

:^)
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>>126946059
>Implying

Axe is great. Everyone should love big L2 sweeps with hyperarmor.
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>>126946427
How much insight do you have?
I'm farming y***byza right now and gems are dropping fine but I do remember that at low insight consumables / ritual materials dropped far more often.
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>>126944778
phew

heres a video if anyone is interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ulQHog_iDA
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>>126946509
But I did You fucking neat goym :^3
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>>126946497
you were already told the plethora of ways the image is useful for new players and vets

maybe you should stay in /pol/?
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I TOLD YOU BRO
I WARNED YOU
I WARND YOU ABOUT REPLYING BRO
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>>126946609
I'm farming that exact same location, my insight is 22 atm.
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>Martyr Logarius
>spams arcane abilities until you run out of vials
>then starts rushing at you with OP scythe attacks
>only got him down to 40% cuz no vials
Ya fuck this
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>>126946497
What the fuck?

You don't agree with what? There is no incorrect information in that guide, the only actual "opinion" that you might disagree would be the farming spots mentioned, but they are still good

It's not a matter of defending anything, you are just hating on something everyone's been using for a while with no good reason, nor are you providing any useful feedback apart from saying that it's somehow "bad"

By commenting on the guide did you expect everyone to suddenly stop using it and create anew one to your liking? Or for everyone to just agree with you and that's it or just the "welp ok" relpy? What purpose would that serve?

You are seriously acting autistic right now for absolutely no good reason
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>>126946701
>you were already told the
Exactly, over and over, and I disagreed with its usefulness, and you couldn't shut the fuck up about it, you really think you being a fucking prick about it is gonna make me change my mind?
SURE IS FUCKING PLETHORA LOOK AT ALL THIS TEXT SAYING EXACTLY WHAT THE IN GAME ITEM DESCRIPTION SAYS, OH WOW SUCH HELP MUCH START DUNGEON FIND A SWITCH SOMEWHERE BETWEEN A FUCKING ENTRANCE AND EXIT THEN BEAT THE BOSS, SOO INFORMATIVE HOW THE FUCK WOULD I KNOW WITHOUT IT OMG OMG OMG
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>>126946830
I have to admit, that was one of my favorite bossfights in bloodborne.

Just the whole aesthetic of the attacks and locations and all, in other games that would have been the final boss, death or some shit.

Here, he was just an optional boss, and I loved that fight.
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>tfw sitting in this shitty general looking at one or two shitposters instead of starting a new character because I can't decide between a pure skl, a 25/50 skl/blt or a blt twink
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>>126946384
So it's just run-of-the-mill sperging

I got the game for christmas and was going to go skill with cane but my vet friend said 'no fuck that go axe, great for beginners' and I rolled with it.

I've been having a good time and not too many problems besides gatling gun guy in old yharnam and blood-starved beast.
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>>126946830
If you're not set on soloing him, summon someone, he's basically tivialized once you start juggling aggro.
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>>126946949
You're pretty good

I'm actually starting to believe that you're serious about this
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>>126946829
If you have some madman's knowledges try popping them.
With 99 insight I get gem every other time (just finished a stack of hunter marks and I have 51 gems from this run including 2 off shapes)
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>>126946384
also I don't use 2hand charge that often except against groups, I mostly get in close with it, does that make me more honorable
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>>126946307
Fire pick is better on an arc build, though you lose the thrusting damage for wrecking kin.
Physical pick is obviously better on a 50skl build.

Church Pick, Saif, Saw Spear and BB are all skill-leaning quality weapons so you'd want 25 strength to help complement your damage. Rakuyo, Cane and BoM are all pure skill. Reiterpallasch has a blt requirement but is otherwise pure skl and a solid weapon on an skl build. You could also use the Bowblade on a pure skl build and just ignore the bow component. The sword is actually very strong at 50skl and has an excellent moveset,

>>126946445
There's basically no options for skl weapons early on outside of the cane and saw spear (which is basically just a cleaver clone). Most skill weapons are locked behind Amelia at least. If you're really desperate, you can cheese Eileen early on for the BoM but it's very weak until +6 or so.
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>>126946932
>Start with two rhetorical questions.
Yep, not reading all that, I can pretty much guess its just more bait. but let me guess, tl;dr "ur autistik" right?

>>126947173
Guide is shit, don't give much fuck about it, y'all still retards for arguing with someone that doesn't like it.
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>>126947035
25/50 skl/blt sounds good
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>>126946984
I didn't know he was optional but I guess that is why the whole place is separates from Yharnam.
Still going to try to beat him though probably going to have to use hunter bone like I did with the shadows.
But fuck man
>use short range weapon
>get hit while attacking
>use long range weapon
>can barely hit while dodging
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I've just beaten Orphan and I'm pretty suprised that the Old Hunters ends with a relatively happy ending. I mean, saving the (long) dead hunters from the endless nightmare definetly feels cool and the doll's few lines about Gherman reinforced this outcome aswell.
Time to face Laurence because after finishing Orphan something clicked in my head and I realized where I should go with his head.
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>>126947320
welp ok
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>>126947134
Axe has a really nice moveset.

It's just shitters that only spam tricked charged R2s.

The weapon is probably my favorite of the 3 starter weapons. Don't let what some fag says deter you from using it.

cane is shit early but good for CC later
axe has a really nice tricked mode with good reach
cleaver has highest DPS in the game and will tear through everything because of its 1.3 attack modifier when you chain L1 attacks together, as well as its serrated bonus, but it's boring because all you will ever do is mash R1 or L1
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Really enjoying this meltdown.
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>>126947138
I would but unfortunately no psplus.
I should get it in a few more tries anyway.
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>>126947497
not to mention axe has the highest rally in the game aside from burial blade
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>>126947525
What BL are you taking him on as?
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>>126947134

If you still want to go with SKL, I'd ditch the Axe as soon as you pump SKL up a bit. It's a STR weapon.
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>>126947497
so if I'm rushing beast claws, would the cleaver be the easiest way to tear my way through? or should I get the kirkhammer and use that, since I'm levelling vit and str? I went with the axe, initially, because it's so braindead,but I haven't upgraded anything yet
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>>126947435
The Nightmare and Dream still exist, so it's not exactly a "happy end" but yeah, still pretty good
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>>126947706
do not use kirk if you want to "tear through pve"

yes, if you're trying to rush through the game, saw cleaver or saw spear is the way to go
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>>126947670
What does rally do?
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>>126947314
>There's basically no options for skl weapons early on
Well fuck. I don't wanna kill eileen because I want her rune and actually complete her quest this time. Is the chikage good?
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>>126947929
It's official term for regain.
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>>126947696
nah I just went str, axe is already +5 so I guess I'm committed. I was also playing around with kirkhammer some.
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>>126947929
replenishes hp when you hit things after being hit

with the %20 rally rune and a %21 waning gem with %6 rally secondary, it breaks the game
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>>126948068
how do i get said gem
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>>126946624

Level 4 Henryk cosplay? How interesting.
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>>126947497
I loved the axe's transformed mode uncharted R2 because of the reach and stagger, fuck the spin. Sure it's fun, but in general the weapon is underrated.
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>>126948039

Oh, okay. Have fun! STR weapons are really good and you can get a lot of them early, too.
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>>126948012
>>126948068
Oh i see.

I thought it was something like a bonus to dmg when cooping or something like that.
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>>126947987
Not as a skill weapon. Arguably not as a bloodtinge weapon either, the moveset is boring and lacks any real kind of range. The Reiterpallasch is fantastic though, and you can get that much faster than the Chikage.
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>>126947675
BL66
Sword is +7 / +127 Bloodgems
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Anyone wanna take a break from shitposting and help me with rom in lower pthumeru? I'm level 105.
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>>126948164
it's only %6 and it's something you farm from D5 FRC chalices

the rune, which is more important with a much higher percentage is a %100 drop from ludwig
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>>126948173
Not really a cosplay, Henryks set just has the best lightning defense I had.
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>>126947706
The cleaver is the go-to 'rush to lategame' weapon. Nothing kills bosses faster, especially beast bosses. If your goal is to get the beast claws, then that means you'll need to kill Amygdala (which means post-Amelia) and clear your way through the first 3 pthumeru dungeons and the first layer of loran. Saw cleaver is your best bet for all of that and you should only need +6 to do it.

Beast claws are strength-leaning quality with a very high stamina consumption. Optimal damage would be something like 50/25 str/skl and you're going to end up wanting 20 end as well.
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>Try to help people with the Cursed Pthumerian 1st boss
>Keep getting the same guy who dies within 20 seconds
>Keeps spamming me with messages and trying to invite me to parties
I wish I got this much hate mail.
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How long does it typically take to find a partner for chalice bosses? The first Cursed boss is kicking my ass.
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>>126946624

How many attempts in was that? Because it looks really clean.
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>>126948245
>Reiterpallasch
Interesting. I must have missed this in my first playthrough. Will try it.
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>>126947987
My recommendation would be to start with the cane and pick up the saw spear early on. Level the 2 of them together and swap back and forth depending on the situation. The cane is fun to use and you can make up for its lack of damage with the spear's for bossfights. The combination will easily get you through Amelia and to more variety.
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>>126948450

You can rush to it without fighting anything as soon as you reach Cainhurst, which can be accessed right after Amelia. Just run past the bloodlickers, enter the castle, and head right. There should be a chest across from that side of the staircase. That one has the Reiterpallasch in it.
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>>126948450
It's in Cainhurst bruh
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>>126946624
Pretty good

Gotta say that the second roar at the end, if not saved the attempt, but helped quite a bit
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>>126948245
>"chikage lacks range"
>recommends the fucking reiter

kek
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>>126948450
Of note with the Reiter: The bullets get damage scaling from skill far more than they do from bloodtinge, so if you're making a skill build there'd be no reason to go beyond ten bloodtinge unless you wanted to splash for more weapons.
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>>126948320
You're getting there with level, I think most people hit him at 80 on their first run, I remember I wasn't able to beat him on a 60 character until like my third. Probably might wanna continue to Mergho's Loft and grab that rock so you can +10 the weapon and maybe grab some better gems. Dunno if you can do chalice dungeons offline, but if you can't, you'll find some good ones on winter lanterns in mergho's.
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>>126948365
You should help me out senpai.
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>>126931354
I wanna use the bloodletter.Can I fit bloodtinge gems in it for its secondary form/what are the best gems for it?
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>>126948602
mfw some one pulls their plug as soon as they get killed
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>>126947839
Sure, the nightmare's realm does not disappiear and you can call it a nightmare but now it should be more like a simple dream: before his death even Simon asks you to drive away the punishment for the old hunters' great sin because punishing the new hunters for the old ones' sin is just "unfair".

By the way, do you know what this great sin is supposed to be? Someone on the wiki said that he thinks it might be that the Old One's babies born from human females were not, in fact, stillborns but the old hunters were the ones who killed them. The orphan representing the punishment would completely fit this theory.
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Is there anything to do with the blood gems you're not using?
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What are the in-game perks of
>letting Gerhman kill you
>becoming the next Big Boss of the Dream
>becoming the next Moon Presence
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>>126948436
Like 30-40 I guess, I didn't keep count
It isnt a hard fight when you get down to it, its just unpredictable and fucking infuriating with the bullshit he can pull off.
>>126948639
I was relying on that. He tries to buff himself every time you break him down at 50% or lower, so you get tons of hits in there.
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>>126948861
Sell them if they're shit or mediocre, store them if they might come in handy later.
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>>126948754
Password?
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>>126948709
>The bullets get damage scaling from skill
no they don't

you don't know anything about anything

the bullet damage gets supplemented by phys% gems and gets fuck all from skill investment
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>>126948863
>letting him kill you: get thrown into NG+
>other two: you get the old hunter badge and get thrown into NG+
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>>126948863
Not much really, the Doll has a cool easter egg in NG+ but thats it basically

Not much, you get gehrmans scythe in NG+

Not much again, you get a fuckload of souls and the scythe
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>>126948963
bbg9000
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>there are people in mergos with 600 hp

EZ FRAGS EVERY WHERE
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>>126949024
What's her easter egg in Ng+?
I got the slug ending
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>>126948863
If you let Gerhman kill you, there will be a new grave in NG+ which is supposed to be yours.
If you kill Gerham you get his outfit and weapon.
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>>126948964
That's what I meant, yeah. Meant to say from physical damage, brain told me it was skill. Didn't mean to mislead, my bad.
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>>126949232
The doll stands next to your grave in the Dream
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>>126948720
Since I got him below 50 by being a retard I think I can get him by not being a retard. (I'm not being sarcastic most of my first runs are me dodging and healing while trying to stab weak points.)
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>>126949062
Ringing
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>>126949260
>There will never be an 'Old Monk' style boss fight were you fight the Good Hunter from another dream after he took Gerhmans place
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>>126949435
Welp, have at it then. good luck.
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Is the Memelight Sword actually any good?

I'm trying to decide if it's worth going out of my way on this new character to replace Ludwig
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>Need to get through Maria so I can get the Bloodletter
>Been going through the game with a shitty bowblade and half a quality build so I can use it
>Can get off some pretty good bow shots but can't summon anyone to distract her so I can use it

I want Gehrman to free me from this night
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>>126948786
anyone?pls?
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>>126949556
It's strong, it just requires a very specific build to use. Quality/arcane with lots of stamina.
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>Helping people in the forest
>they die to the cannon
everytime
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>>126949556
It's great, you need a mix of arcane, strength, and skill though. It's kind of like artorias sword from other games.
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>>126949020
>>other two: you get the old hunter badge and get thrown into NG+
If you die to Moon Presence you get the old hunter badge and stay in current game.
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>>126949516
We need another 'Old Monk' boss, It was one of the most fun things to do in the souls games.
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>>126948786
Obviously, yes. Tempering gems boost blood damage and would be easier to farm.

Temperings if you want to use both forms, or off-shape korean bloodtinge gems if you only want the transformed mode.
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>>126949553
Thanks man
I've been waiting for my DS boss type again. (False King)
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>>126949268
now I feel like I was really rude
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should I go past 50arc for my space broccoli?
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>>126949489
Cool ty
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>>126949895
ideal best is 99
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>>126949735
I remember making a build with 90 vitality, +5 adjudicator's shield and blessed weapon, second chance, and a Cling Ring for the total 150% health as Old Monk plus a regen ring. The whole plan was to see how long it'd take the host to disconnect. Average time was about 15 minutes.
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Guys guys help me decide which ending my beastmanguy should get
http://strawpoll.me/6406789
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>get super hyped for cauliflower build
>finally get Kos Parasite
>feel underwhelmed
Why does it have to have to leave you so vulnerable after you use it?
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>>126950198
Because you're using it wrong. Take advantage of the massive range and massive stagger to poke and interrupt stuff from safe distances.

There isn't a bad move in its entire moveset, you know.
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>>126950198
>>126950198
because you should be far away
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>>126950391
I only have 50 arc, should I have gone 99 arc?
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>>126949556

That reminds me.

Why are the moonlight blade and ludwig's holy sword two different items?

Is Ludwig's Holy Sword a false holy sword? Why give the Holy modifier to two different swords from the same guy?
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>>126949658
AKA BL 150 redditshitter build
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>>126950587
The non-glowing fake wasn't actually his, it was what people thought it was.
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>>126950587
Ludwig's Holy Blade is the mass produced imitation used by the guys Ludwig trained. Holy Moonlight Sword is the real weapon, used by Ludwig himself.

The holy modifier is something most Church weapons have, including KH's sword form, Wheel, and the Church Pick.
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>>126950587
Ludwig's Holy Blade is just a trick weapon fashioned after Ludwig's actual sword. It's just an imitation. It has the Righteous modifier because all church weapons do, it's a product of being blessed by the church and not from being some super special one-of-a-kind legendary sword.
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>>126950198
I thought that too at first, but with sexy basic arcane gems in it, the L2 arcane blast is a beast, also running R2 can take out 4 spiders at once. Shit is fun as fuck
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>>126950587
Ludwigs holy blade is the weapon the church hunters used

Moonlight sword is his TRUE MENTOR, his GUIDING MOONLIGHT
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Does any else think Ludwig MIGHT not be just talking to his sword? But maybe the MP?
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>>126950712
You can use it just fine at level 98 with 25 str, 25 skl, and 25 arc.
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What does the Holy modifier do? What types of enemies does it affect?
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Holy shit I just witnessed my first co op npc fight. My beckoner went toe to toe with Valtr and lasted fairly long. Then another co op showed up and we sat by the lamp and watched. He died.
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>>126951060
Vileblood monstrosities. Bloodlicker/Cainhurst fleas, ghost ladies, gargoyles, and the frenzy ghosts you sometimes find in chalice dungeons.
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>>126947853
>>126948362
Cool, thanks for the help. I'm just starting my first "pvp" character, after getting getting platinum.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/11838

This was the build I was gonna go with, maybe replace 50 str with 40 and get 25 skl, as somebody pointed out earlier that improves it earlier
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>>126951060
Pretty much only ghosts like the ones in cainhurst or the frenzy bitches in chalice dungeons. It's effectively worthless, like occult damage in darksouls.
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>>126951218
>>126951227
Is the Kirkhammer Holy? Are all Church weapons?
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Sharks have to be the gayest recurring enemy in any souls game. Jesus christ Fishing Hamlet is a fucking nightmare.
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>>126951303
Yes
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>>126951227
Don't forget the flea ladies. If you like using visceral attacks in dungeons, that bonus damage is useful to clean up the aftermath.

There's also this super rare trapped chest that always spawns with two teleporting frenzy ghosts, they can fuck your shit up fast if you don't have something they're weak to.

>>126951303
LHB gets +50% in both forms, KH gets +50% in sword form only and nothing in hammer, Wheel gets +30% in both forms, Threaded Cane gets +20% in cane form, Church Pick and HMS supposedly get it butt I don't know how much.

Kos Parasite, Beast Claw, and Amygdalan Arm are church weapons that don't get the holy modifier.
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>>126951035
Yes.
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>>126951529
>Kos Parasite, Beast Claw, and Amygdalan Arm are church weapons
Pardon?
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>Spell hits them on your screen
>they dont even dodge
>no damage

is there a worse feeling?
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>>126951035
It would have been incredible if the sparkly bluegreen of the moonlight sword's tricked form just went out when fighting the moon presence and it lost all of its arcane damage and R2 projectiles.
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>>126951626
Check your box, genius. They're filed under the church weapons tab. The Church worships Amys and Kos, and Beast's Embrace explains why the Beast Claw is considered theirs.
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>>126950587
>>126950872

It seems like there was something of a hierarchy to it. The normal sword badge gets you Kirkhammer, which has obvious design similarities to LHB but is instead a big blunt object and less demanding of one's skill. The radiant badge gets you LHB, which is the imitation designed to be used against large and small beasts alike (and probably kin specifically, given the big thrust attack), probably used by an elite cadre of knight hunters who possessed greater skill than lower-rank church hunters. And then finally you have Ludwig's own holy sword, a one-of-a-kind weapon that is extremely demanding of its wielder and is thus befitting of the great Ludwig.

Off in the corner there's Executioners with their esoteric wheels, which admittedly are really good for crushing Cainhurst armor, and then you have choir members who prefer canes. Maybe because they're easier to use, maybe because of their dedication to rising above beastliness, maybe both.

Oh, and there's one weirdo with a big warpick.
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>>126951693
>bait someone into beast cutter R2 with a hyperarmor trade
>it passes right through them without dealing damage
>they start R1 mashing while you're locked in recovery
I've lost count of how many fights that I've lost this way. Somehow the netcode in this game feels consistently even worse than DaS2s. I don't even know how that's possible.
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>>126951989

The tricked R2 just has a bad hitbox up close.
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>>126951693
>>126951989

This is kind of why I don't understand how people enjoy souls PvP. It'd certainly be fun, but the netcode makes it near unenjoyable.
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ur all fegits n' i don liek u.
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>>126951892
The big thrust attack on Ludwig's is actually blunt damage, ironically.
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>>126951892
Threaded Cane is a workshop weapon, not a church weapon. Though it's rather odd that so many church-aligned NPCs use it.

The warpick was based off a very old weapon, according to its item description.

It's entirely possible some of the badges/weapons just happened to appear at later times instead of being a hierarchy. Vilebloods are considered thoroughly extinct and all but forgotten according to a few item descriptions, so it'd make sense that the church didn't bother making it super effective against vilebloods.

>>126952186
It's thrust, and you can tell by poking brainsuckers with it.
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>>126952328
>Vilebloods are considered thoroughly extinct and all but forgotten according to a few item descriptions, so it'd make sense that the church didn't bother making it super effective against vilebloods.
Talking about Kirkhammer and sword hunter badge, here.
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Rapehorse is starting to give me PTSD guise. I've been at this for a few days and my BL 200 character can't seem to beat Ludwig the Holy Blade. I'm on NG+4 am I totally fucked?
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>>126951989
It feels similar to DkS1 netcode but because of the faster combat, guns and dashes it's problems are more prominent.

I still consider DkS2 netcode the worst of the series but when it was working well it was pretty good at least. I found any amount of lag was unmanageable, though.

>>126952160
Once you get used to it it becomes manageable. I feel like the faster combat has made it more difficult though and it's more frustrating than it used to be.
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>>126952328
How many workshop hunters (us) use church and vileblood weapons? there's nothing really unusual about it.
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>>126938424
thanks friendo
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>tfw blood addled invasions are so rare
I just want to punish unsuspecting summoning shitters
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>>126952591
Vileblood weapons: one, Crowsteel.

Church weapons: Alfred and about 4 different chalice NPCs, two of which are wearing the Tomb Prospector set (makes sense), one of which uses Beast Claw, and the last is Queen Killer.
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>>126952160

I'd kind of like to see a Souls style fighting game using GGPO or something. Have like 10 characters with different weapons and abilities, and like 3 or 4 maps to allow for variety and possibly change a character matchup. Maybe have like some slight modifiers to boost HP or Stamina or damage so that two people with the same character could be doing different play styles.

I mean, Souls PvP is
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>>126952865
Isn't queen killer an executioner?
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>>126953009
Presumably as he use the wheel and ardeo
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>>126952986
>Chosen Undead in Elite Knight
>Bearer of the Curse in Faraam
>Good Hunter in Hunter's Set
These are a given. What about the other seven slots? How do you differentiate the 4 or 5 iconic souls characters who all use swords and shields?
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>>126952865
US
US YOU FUCKING RETARD
US
DID YOU NOT SEE ME SAY US
WE'RE WORKSHOP HUNTERS
US
US YOU INBRED
US YOU FUCKER
US YOU MORON
US
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>>126953009
I would assume so. The only odd man out in the church weapons is Beastclaw Jozef, assuming a character's attire shows their affiliations.

Beast Claw is a hard case to judge, since everything related to beasts is banned by the church: pellets, runes, that one hunter tool, and probably the Claw (though it doesn't explicitly say so).
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>>126945007
i gave up too fuck this shit
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>>126953325
Player characters don't count for lore and you know it, you gibbering autist.
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>>126953404
But the beast claw is classified as a church weapon
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>>126953514
Wait I'm confused your durability hasn't changed
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>>126953585
Weren't the Beast Claws made by Irreverent Izzy?
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>>126953585
Yes, that's the confusing part. It's classified as a church weapon, but fucking everything related to beasts or beasthood is "forbidden/banned by the church", even the things they made themselves.

>>126953717
WPN durability DOWN effects don't reduce the maximum durability, they make hits cost more durability.
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>>126953534
>Player characters don't count for lore.
But that is literally wrong you fucking moron.
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Sup /bbg/, rate my führer.
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Have any of you ever gotten a party invite playing?
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>>126953903
9/10 would heil
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>>126953903
Genius, 10/10
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>>126953903
nein/10
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Can the bone ash hunter npcs in Isz CRF drop the best arcane/bolt/fire gems? I'd like to know before I spend hours farming them.
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>>126953903
That's not what Valtr looks like.
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>summoned to help kill defiled hotdog
>everyone is competent
>fight goes smoothy

src is really comfy sometimes
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Well, just beat the game for the first time, honestly a lot less challenging than the other "souls" games all together, then again using an upgraded Tornitus made the game a cakewalk honestly.

Only boss that gave me any real trouble was the Logarius, which took about 6 times for me to figure out a good strategy to beat him. All the other bosses were basically just me dodging attacks and rushing in to melee or going for VAs.

Does it get more difficult on NG+?
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>>126953895
But it isn't. The player character can do whatever the fuck they want, in any souls/borne game, because the rules don't apply to them. They can come from wherever they want, they can change their covenants at will, be possessed by demons to no ill effect (demon's souls, read the invader win/kill messages), use anything they find for any reason, travel though fucking time, cast long-forgotten spells and things that explicitly say it'd drive the user mad without ever going mad, etc. The only lore related to your character that matters story-wise is the endings.
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>>126954137
They can drop okay ones but not the best. The only useful gem really is an Arc gem from them for Kos Parasite

For both fire and bolt setups you want two cold abyssals and either a bolt abyssal from abhorrent or 27.2% fire from watchers
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>>126954292
>But it isn't.
But it is though.
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>>126953848
Yes, but he was considered an heretic that's why the irreverent title
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>>126954242
Do chalice dungeons first, then DLC, then finally go NG+. Not that there's any reason to go into NG+ unless you need to buy CFR materials.

>>126954420
I'm not going to have this conversation with you if this is all you're going to do.
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>>126953903
Would meekly give my country's army to.
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>can't kill anyone I've sent to Oedon
Wtf
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>>126952328

Time also obviously figures, like the Church Cannon. It's pretty obvious that the idea was cribbed from the Powderkegs that had gone before and then made more churchy by giving it the same clockwork treatment as the repeater and Ludwig's Rifle. I'd guess the cane usage is the same kind of deal; it came out of the old workshops, but remained a useful and attractive design to church hunters.

As for the pick; maybe a churchy version of Burial Blade?
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>>126954615
I'm going to give you a "maybe", because we've been in the realm of pure conjecture for a while now.
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Yo new to BB here, just one question, what's the difference between sending people to the clinic and sending them to the chapel?
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>>126954615

I'd say it's more akin to the Hunter's Axe. I mean, they have several identical moves.
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>>126953851
That's super insidious.
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>>126953315
Doesn't necessarily have to be in the Souls universe, if anything a new universe would make it easier to have a varied yet interesting cast.
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>>126954826
Fun. I'll leave it to you to figure out what I'm talking about.
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>>126954478
If I'm going to do what? Say the truth? You're acting like you're supposed to dignify me with an answer, nigger you are claiming players don't influence the lore, you're beyond a fucking moron, you're not going to answer me? Then shut the fuck up with your bullshit misinformation.
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>>126952716
Blame Miyazaki. He touted that as a selling point but didn't tell us there's a 5% chance to it.

#HACKZAKI
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>>126954878
It also handles somewhat similarly to the Burial Blade when tricked, specifically the running attack and the fact that most of the attacks are sweeps.
Then again, >movesets having meaning
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>>126953903
that face needs work, doesnt look like hitler
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>>126954932
>a new universe would make it easier to have a varied yet interesting cast
True enough. Part of the appeal of a Soulsborne fighting game would be to play as your favorite characters, though.
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>>126954826
Clinic makes them into celestial emissary's in exchange for josefka's blood. Sending them to the church gives specific rewards for each. For example, the old woman gives sedatives.
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>made character after dlc release
>155 hours

i'm not even neet
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>>126953851
I didn't know this about durability at first and then I used a durability down -60 gem and was at risk after killing like 3 fucking enemies. Then I saw how it worked.
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>>126954981
I'm saying what the player chooses to do with their character is separate from the lore. I didn't say anything about what the character accomplishes in the story. If you're so incensed that you confused those two somehow, then I'm not wrong to discard this discussion.
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What would you say are the best weapons in the DLC that make use of Skill and/or Bloodtinge?

I've put 30 into both of those stats, trying to decide whether or not to start focusing on one.

Is the Church Pick a good skill weapon?
I just got it and it seems pretty fun.
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I wish the little girl's ribbon was a head piece and not for the messengers

It would help making my female character much faster
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>>126955220
Shift the goalpost some more why don't you?
You're welcome to shut the fuck up any moment now, O gracious sage of arcane wisdom and bullshit alike.
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>>126955075
I'm just talking about FROM trying to scratch that pvp itch, not necessarily the fanservice of a Souls fighter.
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>>126955405
Oh, I gotcha.
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Where can I get blood chunks, just got an uncanny parasite and I need to get it to +10 quickly
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>>126955175
christmas vacation. i have about the same too.
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>>126954826

If you're trying to get everything you can, you should send the nun, whore and old lady to the chapel because they give you emotes and sedatives for free

The paranoid guy and the beastman don't give you shit so if you send them to the clinic Iosefka memes them into ayylmaos and pays you for the privilege and then you kill the ayylmaos for items
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>>126955141
>Clinic makes them into celestial emissary's in exchange for josefka's blood
Surely I'm not the only person who gives people to best doctor.

Sending people to impostor Iosefka gets you 1 insight and 2 numbing mists, or sometimes unique rewards like beast blood pellets for the abhorrent beggar. Sneaking in the back and leaving without aggroing impostor will get you 2 insight and 3 blue elixirs per NPC after that point, and her lines change.

>>126955383
>muh goalposts
Just in it to argue, I see.
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>>126955383
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>>126954826

Major spoilers:

Sending people to Iosefka's Clinic will reward you with items and insight from Iosefka, but you might be surprised when you see what happens to them once you unlock the clinic's back entrance.

Sending people to the chapel is usually your safest option. Emphasis on usually. Not all NPCs are very friendly, and some of them have some very frightening tendencies.
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>>126955175
>mfw deleted 3 characters one with 200+ hours and two others with 50-60+ hours
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>>126955656
>Just in it to argue, I see.
Oh right, so you changing your argument slightly when being called out on it is somehow supposed to be blamed on me? I thought you weren't going to dignify me with an answer. What nigger, you wanna ride my cock? I don't fuck faggots.
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When you use the messenger's gift, what do you appear as to other non-host phantoms? Is it immediately obvious to them that you're a fake?
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>>126953315

Use the differences in the base mechanics of the games. Slayer of Demons is fast but fairly basic, Chosen Undead gets hyperarmor moves to represent poise, and Bear of the Curse is slow but great at crushing guards.

And the Good Hunter just dashes around all their attacks, parries them from 20 yards away, and viscerals their hearts out.
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>>126952520
Pls respond ;~; is there a preferred weapon? Burial blades only gets me so far.
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>>126955929
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>>126955857
why delete? do you need all 10 character slots? i'm up to 200+ hours across 6 characters.
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>>126955929
>all this autism
this is too intense
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>>126956067
>And the Good Hunter just dashes around all their attacks, parries them from 20 yards away, and viscerals their hearts out.
kek

Also all of your ideas sound super solid. I completely forgot about Slayer of Demons too. You should write some of that stuff down.
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>>126956000
You appear exactly as you do on your own screen. It's obvious, since real messengers only pop up like that when you get right up to them. It's possible to fool someone if you hide behind a corner or something when they only see you as soon as they turn around, or if it's a really new player.
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>>126956000
>>126956365
don't forget that you'd still have a red glow if you're invading
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>>126956000
the messengers only stop up out of the fog and hold the messege when you walk over them, real ones anyway. the fake one does that permanently so it's very easy to spot if you know to look out for it.
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>>126954432
>Izzy
>he
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>>126955929
>arguing about the argument instead of the main point of what it was originally about
>and call them shifting the goal post
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>bell chime maidens everywhere
What fucker thought this was a good idea
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>>126956139
well technically I have 900+ hours counting the ones I deleted. And yes I do need all 10.
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>>126957090
Here's your reply. :^)
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this just in: every single entity in this game whose gender is not strictly stated is female
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>>126956785
Yes?
You'll never heard about Izzy Stradlin?
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I didn't understand the appeal of the memebow until I watched this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu8Udg2NwjY

Time for a new character I guess.
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>>126957141
It's too bad they aren't the player summoning types, Yahargul would be the best shit ever then.
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So /bbg/, despite the fact that you can kick the shit out of every ayy lmao in the game and whoop some lovecraftian ass, would you still describe this game as a horror game with the oppressive atmosphere, sense of dread surrounding everything, and futility of your actions throughout the game?
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>>126931549
amazing
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>>126957234
Now thats just admitting you've lost the argument, but you did that 3 posts ago
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>>126933038
I tried with 50 str you get the most dmg with 31 percent blunts. 27s and 19.5 nourisgings are pretty close. The absolute best might be 65 str scaling gems. I have about 900 ar with a scaling, blunt, and triangle blunt.
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>>126957832
Groovy dude, hug a rainbow.
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>Pthumerian Descendant at Level 4
I thought Loran Camerabeast was bad
This nigger is fucking retarded
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>>126957687
I'd describe it as horrifying, but not horror. The scary shit is done more for atmosphere and less for the sake of scaring the player.

>>126957832
Really, what kind of response did you expect out of a person like that?
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>>126933038
The trick mode is always a good option because it makes your hitboxes huge-I'm pretty sure of that.
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>>126931354
Holy shit I just started playing this game and I honestly don't know how you could sit through it to completion. This 6 or 7 FPS or whatever is physically painful to experience. Is there some trick to make the game playable?
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So if I have only 21 Arcane Gems that add flat Arcane would be best for Kos Parasite, right?
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>>126957832
you could have just dropped it but you chose to extend the autism train
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>>126958027
>Really, what kind of response did you expect out of a person like that?
And what kind of person is that? A person that has low tolerance for fagots that shit the goalpost whenever it suits them then try and take the high ground when called out on it? You're just as bad as the trash you're defending, literally fucking die in a fire.
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Guys, what if your character going on "the hunt" is a metaphor for the medical blood that your character took "hunting" the diseases in his body and Mergo is the name of the main cancer-like cell that is the root of your disease?
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>>126933581
Dark Souls PS3 version in 2011 is the superior game. You fucked up, /v/ is always right.
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So what song do you guys play when you are hunting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYqW-UyN5mg
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Who's the woman talking at the start of the DLC?
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>>126958193
I get the sneaking suspicion there are three or four different people each thinking they're talking to one person right now, because I'm the guy originally trying to argue but I dropped that shit a long time ago.
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>>126958318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NduqttXVKmA
I listened to that all day non stop yesterday while bumming around in chalices.
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>>126958413
ur mom
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Anyone want to farm Pthumerian Elder for triangle Cold Abyssals? Pass is bbgrind
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Tell me about blood starved beast.

Why is his back flayed?
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Its time.

Post and Rate hoontas
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>>126958169
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>>126958318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0
Very fitting for this sickdark edgy game :^)
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>>126958559
I should have mentioned I'm on layer 4 of e2ts7vub in case anyone has the glyph open already
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>>126958216
That's stupid.
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>>126958582
The sun is bright and hurts the eyes of the beasts.
So it flayed it's skin to make a shawl.
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>>126958582
Because he's hungry
hungry for blood
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>>126958642
Do I need to show my characters face or does that not matter?
Also 8 out of 10. Purely because my own personal taste in hats.
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>>126958559
>going for 15 flat when you could get that sick +5-6% open-foe damage
o i am shaking my head
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>>126958642
Yours is 8/10, rate mine.
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>>126958752
I didnt really show my face that much, so its up to you.

Also thanks cutie.
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>>126958683
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>>126958216
what if..
ure gay?!
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>>126958642
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Loch Shield counter 101

Church Pick L2->R2 is a guaranteed hit.
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>>126958865
Executioner's glove breaks through Loch Shield.
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>>126958864
Sick scar/10

What weapon you rolling?
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>>126957687
This wasn't an horror game
Before I knew this guys
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>>126957687
If they zoomed in on every monsters face you fucking bet id shit my pants
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>Defiled Amygdala on a BLT build in-progress

Could someone help, my Shitkage can barely reach him and I can't get away doing 300~ damage with the bowblade and I only have so much bone ash to use with the repeater.
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>>126959093
present for you
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>>126958972
>>126958864
I swear I just saw the file name, Ignore me and my stupidity.

Unless you just put that there to screw with me and dont actually use the bowblade, in which case, kudos.
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>>126959093
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>>126931354
Anyone wanna help my califlower man with Ailing Loran Bloodstarved? He's not bad to fight but I get grabbed by that instakill grab LITERALLY everytime, and having someone there will help


pass is cake
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>>126959401
This guy's Rosmarinus is the scariest thing in this game.
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>>126958864
>>126959337

Nah, I actually am using the bowblade. Kinda wanted to have a "church assassin" theme.

Fuck Simon, by the way. Dude's a pain in the ass to fight early on.
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>>126958865
no it isnt, he didnt dodge right away. you could see his character move a bit
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>>126959580
Isn't it easier to just let him give it to you later?
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OH GOD GUYS OH GOD, I JUST TORE A PIECE OF CARTILAGE OUT OF MY PENIS OH GOD OH FUCK WHAT DO I DO ITS BLEEDING JESUS FUCK WHAT THE HELL IT HURST SO GOD DAMN MUCH I DON'T HAVE A PHONE WHAT THE FUCK GUYS PLEASE
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Is anyone else here not sure why they even play this game anymore?
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>>126959497
he doesnt have an animation to tell for his grab. He just stays completely still.
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>>126958642
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>>126959693
Because the L2 removes all Endurance which rendered him unable to dodge.

And that is with 22 Stamina and a 20% rune.
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>>126959580
You said it, I fought him at BL10, he was one-shotting me and I was hitting him for a whoping 12 hp per hit and the cheese didn't work.
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>>126959716

It is, but I'd be done with a majority of the game by then. It was tough, but I just went straight to him after beating up Amelia. I failed multiple times and used up all my poison knives from the Cathedral Ward. Had to level up to 30 (iirc) in order to beat him, which meant I had to collect souls from Old Yharnam, which I wanted to skip. Oh, well. At least that's over with.

I'm especially glad, too, because the bowblade is really fun.
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>>126959864
It's just you.
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>>126959846
eat it
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>>126959846
rip
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>>126959401
That guy looks like a fucking nerd, but still he can lift that big ass sword
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Mensis-Scholar Damian has seen some Shit.
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>>126959868
I know exactly what it looks like, still gets me, every, damn, time.
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>>126958824
Well here's mine.
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>>126959993

Well, you did a lot better than me. I did manage to get him to about 25% HP at base level (10), but after several attempts I just got frustrated and leveled up.
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>>126960247
9/10

Love the hat, makes him look like something out of a stephen king novel or something.
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>>126960248
The fuck I did better than you, I spent 8 hours straight fighting him.
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>>126960039
What a shit webm.
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>>126959870
>Vileblood with Wheel
Disgusting.
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>>126960661
Sorry, posted the wrong one. Not that the one I meant to post is much better.
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>>126960624
Kinda what I was going for.
I especially love the Holy Moonlight Greatsword but the downside is of course you can't use things like bolt paper on it.
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>>126958642
redwife bestwife
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>>126960641

Holy shit, never mind then. I think I spent an hour.
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>>126960805
>Not putting your bells in your Personal Effects hot bar
You fucking retard.
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>>126960978
Too lazy to push one more button.
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>>126960804
I.. I don't know what you're talking about. Also I rarely use the wheel anymore since I became a little Lumenwood a few Days ago
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>>126960805
>>126960039
Is Gascoigne a Pthumerian? His height matches.
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>>126961128
Of fucking course not, he doesn't even come from Yharnam.
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>>126961027
So you'd rather cycle through your item list however many times? Idiot
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>>126961061
Your character looks like a Vileblood. You have the Wheel equipped. What's so hard to understand?
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>>126958642
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Chalice Ebrietas (sp) tips? That cute cunt keeps love charging me. I know she means well but it hurts a lot.
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>>126961128
He could be sup-pthumerian, since pthumerians make HMPFH and he makes ARGH but the height and haircolour matches. Maybe he is related with Yharnam?
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>>126958642
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>>126961202
You're thinking too hard. Look at the equipped items:

>small resonant bell
>music box
>silencing blank

Ring bell, get summoned. Press dpad down, play music box. Press dpad down, use silencing blank. Press dpad down, ring bell. Fewest button presses.
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>>126961232
That was a Joke Anon, it was a shitty one probably but still.
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>>126960136
NO ONE CAN CATCH US
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>>126958642
If you insist.
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>>126961235
> I'mma whoop some of dat Paleblud ass boi!
I'm kidding it actually looks pretty good.
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>>126932887
Hey, I need time to play the game too.

>>126958642
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I'm having trouble with NG+ Vicar Amelia. Anyone care to help. password is bbgvicar ringing at the main cathedral ward lamp
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I'm thinking about giving the Chikage a whirl. Any tips you guys have for it?
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post ending in 7 names my blt twink
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>>126961315
plz
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>>126961968
chikage is a lot less fun in practice

use the bloodletter instead or have another weapon as a backup because outside of unzips or sneaky charge R2s, the Chikage really lacks a useful moveset
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>>126961921
I can try
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>>126962042
fuck you
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>>126962121
why would chikage need it when unzips are fun and already 1 shot everything
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>>126962042
Tickle My Hole
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>>126958642
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HMS is the only way I can play

I can keep two handing a sword without needing to take out a gun to stop people from healing

sure its not as effective but its super cooler

and if I wanted to be effective, I'd make a BLT build and max evelyn while being the most aggrivating prick on the block
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>>126962291
Unzips are fun, but they're predictable and easy to dodge or, god forbid, parry.
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>>126962121
You should have a backup weapon on every build, you dumb shit. Chikage's moveset is varied. You're just a scrub.
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>>126961347
That's pretty good, anon.
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>>126962042
ugh
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>>126962208
Ok I had to run back to hunter's dream, ringing now
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>>126962361
you can delay them at least so their timing is completely variable
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I've never made a co-op group before, got Bloodborne in early November, and I embarrassingly would like help with Micolash. He is so fucking annoying, and just runs from me for like 20+mins....

I am so tired of chasing him, wasting my blood vials, and then getting him to less than 10% health only for him to cast that AOE spell before I can stop him...

Have mercy on this poor lost soul.
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>>126962391
too bad I cover it with the Masters Iron helm 90% of the time.
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>>126962384
>you're just a scrub
Probably.
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>>126962472
AHHHHHH
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>>126962472
Level?
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>>126962314
Maria?
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>>126962314
she looks like that one meme. i think it was the feel man
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>>126962472
You can chase him into a room, you know. Bring poison knives if you're looking for a laugh.
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>>126962472
No one cares, namefaggot.
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>>126962472
OH MAJESTIC
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>>126962472
Micolash was one of the times I quit bb.
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>>126962121
>>126962452
I was going to try it out for a while until I get the Rakuyo.
I run with the Blades of Mercy and The Burial Blade so I think I could do well with both.
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>>126962538
Kek, no.
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>>126962712
chikage is not a skl weapon

don't use it like one
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>>126962604
I wasted all my poison knives trying to cheese bloody crow, then ended up fighting him legit and trouncing him.

>>126962515
AWOOOOOOOOO! Grant us eyes! Grant us eyes! Micolash makes me nervous...
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>>126962472
Kosm
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>>126958642
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>>126962712
>Trying out a BLT weapon for a while on a SKL build
Moron.
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>>126962668
I was using a name to make replies easier, does this offend your delicate sensibilities less?
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>>126962712
Rakuyo is a SKL weapon, Chicago is a BLT weapon.
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>>126962950
I never claimed to be smart in the first place.
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>>126962898
Would_hit_like_a_truck/10
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is the kirkhammer good for pvp
why or why not
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Just so I don't fuck up and go into NG+ too early, if I ate three of the cords and kill Gehrman, but don't kill the MP, I can still putz about on this playthrough, right?
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>>126962042
VilebloodScum
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>>126958660
Why are you so frustrated?
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>>126963127
Yeah, Just back up your save before hand, just in case.
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>>126962712
>try it out
What, try out the one-handed Skill moveset which is garbage on Bloodtinge builds, and try out the two-handed moveset which is garbage on your Skill build? Stop being such a retard.
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>>126963127
Yes. The only way you can fuck it up is by not eating 3 chords.
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>>126963127
No!
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>>126962472
stay close to him you nigger
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>>126963127
>let's savescum all three endings
>already ate the three cords
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>>126962042
Trump 2016
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>>126963256
Don't be such a sourpuss, it'd be better for him to experiment with a weapon before making a build specifically to use it and get disappointed.
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>>126963064
Good, because you're not.
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>>126963226
how about I back up your mother, namefag?
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>>126963347
AAAAAAAAHHHH MAJESTIC
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>>126963332
If you hadn't started the fight with Gerhman couldn't you still submit your life to him even if you've eaten the chords?
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>>126963127
you can also kill mp, and exit the game right as echoes start to add up to your count.
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>>126963347
heh
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>>126963347
kek
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>>126962472
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>>126963347
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>>126963347
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>>126963314
Thats even worse if you don't interrupt him.
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Skill build with BoM, Rak

or

Arcane build

What is more 'fun'?
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>>126963594
Arcane has more stuff, skill has better stuff.
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>>126963594
sticking a fist up ur mothers vagine is more fun
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Any drawfriends about? Or need I go to a drawfriend thread?
'Cause I'd like something with the Doll and Lady Maria being cute or lewd.
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>>126963534
Where do I get one of those? I am using beast cutter and saw cleaver, what is that even?
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Is our only hope that Lucifer will die one day?
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>>126963778
no, only that he leave and never return
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>>126963720
Whirligig Saw, you get it from the Old Hunters. You can take a side path before you fight Ludwig to get it.
It's Bloodborne's answer to a chainsaw.
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>>126963720
Whirligig Saw (a.k.a. the Pizza Cutter). It's in the DLC, just laying on the ground by the second lamp, you don't even have to fight anything to get it.
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>>126963594
If you like shitting on people in PvP with faggot weapons and hate grinding then go Skill but if you prefer having a wider variety of fun weapons and also don't mind grinding the FRC dungeons then go with Arcane.

Arcane has been the most fun for me, and my other main character is a Skill character which I've hardly touched since making this one. PvE is a lot funner and PvP is good too, especially with being able to switch it up, but I do miss the visceral damage.
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IS IT KOS OR KOSM? ANSWERING ONE WILL GET YOU SHOT WHILE THE OTHER LETS YOU LIVE, CHOOSE CAREFULLY!
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>>126963594
Skill has no ranged option and relies on parrying. Arcane has lots of ranged options and can't parry well.
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>>126963680
Like this?
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>>126963935
kos
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I cant figure out where to go in the first area. I mean, I like the complexity of the first stage and I managed to find the hunter's gear, but I keep dying to the 2 werewolves on the bridge or the 2 giants on the crosswalk at the bottom
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>>126963823
Thanks friend.
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>>126963951
why didn't you use comic sans? baka desu
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>>126964043
Lure the werewolves into the house. They get stuck at the entrance.

Parry the trolls.
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New player here, no clue about any of the builds or weapons that exist in the game.
I was normally a magic user in the souls game, but I know theres limited magic in this game. Does arcane just affect elemental damage?
If I went 25 skill and 25 arcane and 25 str doing my first blind playthrough and pick up whatever weapon I like along the way, will I be good? My first character I dont really want to play pvp, just do all the story and then make a second character knowing whats in the game to start pvping with.

Please tell me I can make my threaded cane course with lightning.
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>>126963951
This pleases me.
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>>126964043
Did you talk to the guy near the first lamp? Gilbert? You have to fully explore the place he tell syou to go to.
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>>126964101
>comic sans
>ever
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>>126964170
just get your 50 str and Hunter's Axe like the rest of the newbs
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>>126964043
Explore outside of the house, up the stairs from the trolls where the dogs are, explore the warehouse that leads to the sewers.

Farm some more and level up.
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>>126964170
You can, jkust put a bolt gem in there. If you want that kind of set up though you don't really want the skill and str just arcane.
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>>126964229
>>126964229
That isnt what I want though, you faggot.

>play the game like every other scrub, dont do what you please
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>>126964170
Terrible build you have planned, until you get one specific weapon locked behind a fairly difficult boss in the DLC. Arcane tools (the spells) require hefty investment before the damage starts to outweigh the bullet cost.

Yes, you can make your threaded cane course with lightning.
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>>126964170
>I was normally a magic user in the souls game
Stopped reading right there.
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>>126960086
I guess nobody lives forever, at least I'm glad I got to bond with my daughter, she was born in oh 07.
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>>126964363
Based on being a magic user you just want to know how to cheese the game with minimal effort
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>>126964326
So does making your weapon magic remove the scaling from other skills?
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>>126964170
Don't make arcane your first playthrough, you will have difficulties. Do STR/SKL
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>>126964170
>magic
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As a ps+less scrub, would going 35 in all stats be ok?
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Time to try and farm perfect Arc/Fire triangles in 5pwujscd.

Anyone want to join me? Pass is bbg
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>>126964493
>scaling from other skills
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Anyone want to help with Bloodletting Beast in Lower Pthumeru? I'm level 37 in glyph jjph.
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>>126964493
Putting an elemental gem into a pure physical weapon will convert all physical damage into elemental damage. The weapon will effectively lose any strength/skill scaling it had.
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>>126964556
50 in every stat except End with stays at 40 because it gains almost nothing after that
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>>126964556
Literally any build is fine in PVE.
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>>126964556
>>126964718
I would still stick to the meta levels. If you level too high, it trivializes the game and takes away a lot of the replay value.
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In cainhurst, in that room after the short cut where you fall out the window, kill the invisible screaming ladies, and get the executioner's gloves, how do you get out? can't find any ladders or switches and surely the game doesn't require me to use a bold hunter's mark...?
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>>126964639
Alright cool thank you. I havent even beaten the first boss yet, Ive only played for 30 minutes but Im trying to plan in my head where I want to go.
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>>126964556
just do

50 VIT
20 ~ 30 END
30 STR
25 SKL
25 BLT
40 ARC

You can use everything in the game, but you're not particularly good at anything. HMS would be decent though. After this point just get 50 in all stats and 40 in END.
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>>126964772
Go to one of the ends of the balcony, I think.
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>>126964772
You have to run along the edge of the castle walls where those two gargoyles were until you encounter another window.
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>>126964718
>40 End
KEK
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>>126964772
Go back outside and keep going.
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>>126964639
>>126964718
>>126964771
>>126964847
Ok thanks. Im already new game + though and i wanna know how badly the dlc will rape me. I presumed having a high enough level would help.
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>>126964902
>PvE build
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>>126964771
>I would still stick to the meta levels
Of course you would, you fucking faggot.
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>>126964957
Get everything to 50 but endurance if you're doing the DLC, you'll need everything you can get on NG+
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>>126964791
Easiest starting setup for a new player is strength, skill, or both. There's a reason why the starting weapons are mostly these.

Arcane builds require a whole lot of knowledge about the game to work, and bloodtinge builds have all their main weapons locked away in a hidden area behind an obnoxious boss, barring DLC (which is harder).
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>>126964874
>>126964879
>>126964927

thanks m8s, i've been hitting walls and shit for like ten minutes
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>Cursed defiled cuts your HP 50%
>TFW I just realized if I push my VIT to99 and add a +15% rune, I can basically go into Cursed defiled with 60 vit worth of HP
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>>126964772
You have to suck a ghosts dick, after that he'll open up a secret passage where you can leave
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>>126965132
IRL?
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>>126965113
>I gave myself a lot of health, so I have a lot of health
Nice observation.
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>>126965113
Enemies do halved physical damage in the Defiled Chalice and in Cursed Chalices so that would be almost pointless
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>>126965006
There is no such thing.
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>>126965113
please do some more math
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>>126965220
Thank you, it is as insightful as your reply is clever :^)
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>>126965076
Id like some sort of challenge with the game though, And I know i may be asking for it with the dlc and all. I think i'll stop at 40 max.

My favorite part of the first playthrough was slamming my face against the walls crow/gehrman/logarius and all the other bosses and breaking through. I know i'll be slamming my face vs ludwig for quite some time
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>>126965394
Yes, there is, especially in a game with co-op.
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>>126965439
You may change your mind after actually starting the DLC
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>>126965819
I know.

Im a sadist.

I actually beat the game all the way until a bit past gascoigne before i found out i could level up.
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>>126965556
PVE "builds" are always worse than PVP builds for their level range, you stupid tripfaggot.
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>>126966005
I think the word you're looking for is "masochist".
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>pvp in mensis
>gunspammer, gunspammer, gunspammer, afk, gunspammer
God this is dull. Why do people even do this? It just wastes both of our time.
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>>126961761
8/10 would tongue her fartbox
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>>126965439
Got level 130, AT THE MAX, and even that is really too high, then make a build around that level and stick to it. then play with that. Then if you want to use something else, make a new character and build around it. That will keep the game somewhat challenging, and it is the primary source of replay value in the game.

If you over-level or do everything well on one character, then you will get bored of the game quickly, especially solo.

>>126965819
Why would he? The bosses are all frustrating to start with, just like the originals were, but once you learn them, they aren't any more troubling than the base game bosses. Hell, I would say some of the bosses in the base game are worse.

>>126966050
No, they're not. Their focuses are just different.
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>>126966121
Right.

Mixed them up thanks anon.
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>>126966005
>all the way until a bit past gascoigne
the madman!

>>126965556
no, they don't exist because literally anything is viable in PvE
on top of that, there are passwords to throw level ranges out the window so there's no reason to not hit the caps of every stat if all you want to do is PvE
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>>126966131
>going mouth to ass
>ever

savage beast
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>>126966125
Gunslinger builds are fun. You must just be awful at countering it.
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>>126965419
As you wish, though my skill with the stylus leaves a lot to be desired.
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Anyone need help with anything? I want to help some folks out.

Level 67. Using the Burial Blade, got pretty good gems 'n' shit on it, so I should be game for most anything.
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>>126966315
I heard all about how this and the dark souls games were crazy hard, and it didnt cross my mind until i found out that i was underleveled, i just thought thats how the game is, i have to get good, and i loved it.

I just fought against gascoigne about idk, 20 times before i got him almost perfectly. The cleric beast was a bit easier. But man, that time i got him, i was fucking pumped as shit.
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>>126966509
Would you help a BL30 kill Orphan?
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>>126966393
looks like your math skills leave a lot to be desired as well because you're somehow coming to a constant with that sequence
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>>126966390
I just dodge until they run out of bullets and we can actually fight, but dodging out 25 bullets every fight gets boring real fast,
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>>126966623

I'm not that far into the DLC with this guy.

I just made him the other day. Sorry, anon. :(
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>helping out at longarious
>end up falling off the edge
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>>126966818
Use a shield, retard.
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>>126966315
They do, because while everything maybe viable, that doesn't mean everything performs to the same level. Sure I could punch a boss to death over and hour or two, or I could tear through Ludwig with Ludwig's Holy Blade in like 2 minutes.

Passwords don't always work, don't pair you with random, and scale down your stats if you are too high leveled.

Jesus CHrism, do you even play this game?
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>>126966971
>needing 2 minutes to kill ludwig
shit player, would not summon
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>>126966739
You... you have got to be shitting me, right, this is like a thinly veiled shitpost, the book literally existed for almost 40 years. There is no way anyone can be this uneducated.
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>>126953903
That looks way more like Assad than Adolf.

Still a great man though who also has done nothing wrong.
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>>126966915
>wait while they fire 25 shots into a shield
Yeah, still not fun.
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>>126967096
Just because someone hasn't read your nerdy little sci-fi book series doesn't make them uneducated, Anon.
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>>126966005
That reminds me of when I died trying to fight the warewolf at the beginning of the game with my fists like 20 times, it was only after a week of having the game that I noticed that there were free weapons on the ground in the dream.
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>>126966739
>thatsthepoint.jpeg
i think the joke went a little over your head anon
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>>126967289
>nerdy little
Ohohohoho, someone wore their big boy pants today.
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>>126967278
They really should have added some recovery time to the end of shots so you could punish spamming with a dash attack
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>>126967504
>spend a few minutes baiting and dodging all 25 of their shots
>they back up and try to blood bullet + heal
>parry their heal and visceral finish
>don't even get any fanmail
>they bow again next time you invade them
end my fucking life
>>
new thread?
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>>126967315
Its never good form to flaunt your lack of knowledge, anon. Regardless how niche the subject in question is.

Also, before you call things "nerdy" you should remember you're in a thread that spends 90% of its time masturbating to lovecraft.
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>>126967278
With a shield, you can block while advancing. Please stop posting any time.
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>>126967693
Make it yourself, lazy cunt.
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>>126967851
I've never made one before anon. Idk how.
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>>126967092
I'll make the new thread, just a sec.
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>>126967704
Lovecraft isn't nerdy.
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>>126963347
>>126962042
good enough?
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>>126966005
who the fuck levels up before gascoigne when you have cheap af consumables
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>>126967724
And they can shoot while spamming backdash. It's just not worth trying to play their little game when they roll over once they're out of ammo anyways.
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>>126968072
people who just fought cleric beast
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>>126967916
>open "return" in new tab
>click "new thread"
>copy+paste http://pastebin.com/qKrQMYWp
>make sure to include previous thread link
>attach a bloodborne picture
>post link here

And now you know. Try it.
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>>126968119
>>126968119
>>126968119
New Thread
>>126968119
>>126968119
>>126968119
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>>126967851
>>126968150
>>126968150
>>126968150
new
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>>126968142
That anon's already made one, i'll try it tomorrow perhaps.
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>>126968197
>>126968209
not all at once jesus christ
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>>126968197
USE THIS ONE
>>126968197
>>126968197
>>126968197
>>126968197
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>>126968007
Needs to be fatter.

>>126968197
>>126968209
Y'all be a couple of geniuses.
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So how does one start a BLT build? Done an STR and a SKL char already and I want to try this one next.
Do I abuse the shit out of Saw Cleaver and get Rifle Spear ASAP until I get my Chikage and then DLC stuff? Is the bowblade worth to use on a lvl 98 BLT build or should I pour 25 points into SKL anyways?
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>>126968317
I made: >>126968197 and announced that I was making it here: >>126967978 and even finished making it first. I can't help that the other retard made one too.
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>>126968209
USE THIS ONE
>>126968209
>>126968209
>>126968209
>>126968209
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>>126968315
why
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>>126968378
Repeater pistol.

Bowblade is good, should probably get 25 skill anyways unless you want to use bloodletter.
>>
Reminder that Red Aura Madmen drop Physical/Fire/Bolt versions of the same gem setup that Abhorrent Beast drops, that is, with the 2x bonus to the secondary. Very quick to farm.

21% Fire + 31.5 flat fire is possible
21% Bolt + 31.5 flat bolt is possible
21% Arcane + 31.5 flat arcane is possible - this one is hyper teir rare though


Most easily attainable from Loran madmen in the arcane variety, however, you can farm the same gems from Ihyll madmen, it's just more likely that they drop Tempering/Striking/Fools etc instead, same as Ihyll watchers. The fools gems they drop are actually better than the dedicated 36% watcher ones, as they still retain 20% physical up if you lose any health, they aren't made completley useless.

It's much easier to rush the red aura madman in the lever room of layer 1 of pwmf22gu and kill him quickly than it is to farm watchers for hours and hours if you really want elemental radials. I don't see why anyone would need radials of these though, as two cold abyssals in the radial slots should work out better for arcane builds.

The 21% + 31 flat fire gems they can drop easily in Loran are as I've found the best fire gem you can get and come close to the abyssals in bolt variety that Abbhorant drops.

Glyph: wpi99uu5, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, red aura Madman right after layer lamp
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>>126968497
because it was made first
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>>126968378
It's a BLT build. Level BLT. Use weapons that scale with BLT. Use your brain.
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>>126967993
>Lovecraft isn't nerdy.
:^)

Anon, you've already proven you're a retard, you don't need to dig the hole further.
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>>126966335
ass to mouth makes more sense...

My girl always slobs on my knob before I push it into her ass.
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>>126968869
He's a mainstream author who influenced countless other horror writers. You're dumb.
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>>126969289
Here's your reply anon :D
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>>126969289
He influenced countless other horror writers, but he sure as hell isn't mainstream. Normal people don't read that stuff, and most people are barely even familiar with the name. Horror is a nerd genre through and through.

If you really think lovecraft is mainstream, you might be more of an outsider than you think.
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GUYS IF YOU USE THE TINY MUSIC BOX DURING THE ORPHAN FIGHT IT STUNS IT AND FORCES IT TO REVERT TO IT'S FIRST FORM
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>>126969925
Go to bed, Vaati.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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