/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

>>126780690
>boobplate and wide-hipped, thigh-thighed armor
this is impractical as fuck but it still appeals to my boner

I'm debating on whether to camp at FotFG or Heide's for low level police duty, but I have a feeling it won't make a difference.

second playthrough and first time playing painted world of ariamis

Is there a canon-lore reasons why I should kill the godess? I dont really like people unnecessarily.

>>126781264
There's no 'canon reason' for killing anybody you don't need to kill, and if you're a faggot who kills characters because somebody else said 'it's canon' then you're a spineless cunt

>>126781627
I was told the other godess of Anor Londo is fake and is actually a dude, so you should attack "her" because it is deceiving you, but Priscilla seems ok.

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>>126781793
>He killed Gwyndolin just because he made illusions
Are you incapable of forming your own opinions?

>>126781180
i did a playthrough in way of blue, from ng to ng4
i was invaded a whopping 7 times, 3 of which were in fofg in ng+, 2 were in belfry sol, the last 2 were random invasions in copse and tseldora
i never got a blue guardian
similarly, i did another playthrough as a sentinel, from ng to ng2
i was never summoned, and only got 3 duels in arena, all of which were cheaters, as in every weapon buff active at the same time or colored name cheaters, not cheap build cheaters

Is there any reason to not used curved swords for PvP? They all seem to have massive phantom hitboxes.

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>>126782050
>playing DkS2

>>126782050

Assuming you're talking about DkS2, no. Running attack with most of them is all you really need.

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>>126782221
>Using a reaction image from DkS2 while shit talking DkS2

>>126782050
katana hitboxes are bigger, do more damage, and have the thrust run attack
longsword can rollcatch like a bitch
great weapons have memewaves and fuckhueg damage
spears, halberds, and rapiers can hit from miles away
but if youre solely playing for pvp in either game you need to end yourself

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>Playing through Scholar of the First Sin for the first time
>beat Dragonrider
>decide to loop back around to pick up shit I might have missed
>suddenly getting zerg rushed by Heide knights on top of the old knights
>go to meet Ornstein
>there's a dragon right outside of the old Dragonslayer's crib
>decide to head to the wharf instead
>barely get 20% of the way through before my weapon is at risk because there's Varangians out the ass
>constantly getting ganked by Varangians
>even slightly turning one corner aggros at least 3 of them
>get peppered by arrows almost no matter where I am
>There's the suspicious shadows there now too

I wasn't ready for this.

anybody else getting 0 nodes?
i have been waiting for an hour now

How would you rate the Dark Souls 2 DLC from best to worst?

>>126782447
youre going to love iron keep
there are no less that 10 more alonne knights there now, and 2 more captains

>>126782536
All of them are pretty equally great but the Iron King is best for having Fume Knight and Sir Alonne.

How is Dark Souls 1 in terms of co-op nowadays?

Which bosses are best to get summoned for and how often do you get summoned?

>>126782750
Too bad so much of those DLCs consisted of gray stone corridors. Makes it kind of tiring to go through them.

>>126783403
Is this the new "every enemy in DaS2 was a dude in armor" meme?

>>126782598
im pretty sure the amount is the same- they just aggro from fucking across the map now for whatever reason, and 60fps means they move at twice the speed

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hey guys, just found another giant memory
ds2 feels like a uninspired copy of ds1, but this memories are really different, the game would be much better if it were during the war against the giants, or on the start/end of the war.

also what happened with navlan? i killed him without knowing?
also someone here have the debug of ds2? i remember i already someone here with it.

>>126782536
i hate all the dlcs
they're all brick interiors with humanoid spellcasters and warriors with a gimmick enemy put through ice/fire/poison palletes
ivory king alonne and raime were p cool though

>>126783653
>60 fps means they move at twice the speed
Goddamn what the actual fuck are you smoking?

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anyone want to help me with Ivory king? PC, SM 3.8M

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New player here, starting out with dark souls 1. I also bought scholar of the first sin during the steam sale. So far I picked a nekkid club guy and have a helmet and a wooden shield, and I killed a taurus demon with bombs and made a shortcut with a ladder. Any tips?
man i wish i could play bloodborne, it looks so cool. too bad I cant afford a ps4

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>>126783971

>>126783653
>bridge
from 0 to 1
>first room
from 1-2 to 3
>2nd room
1
>main area
2 captains, 3-4 knights to 4 captains, 6-7 knights
yeah, no

>>126783675
>Debug of DaS2

im pretty sure that was the Debug of 1, not 2.

unless you mean CE

>>126784054
>>bridge
>from 0 to 1
nigga the bridge used to have 2 knights. they were removed in favor of an invasion.

in the first room there's 2 now, with 1 archer.

the second room I think has at least the same number, but they aggro while you are approaching the room, etc etc

its hard to judge their number because their aggro is different, you dont fight them in the rooms you used to, although they still start there

>>126784052
#15 is such a shitty tip. It should say to grab a Spider shield, THREE or FOUR of which are available within the first 20 minutes of the game depending on your starting class, because they block out the toxic blowdarts completely.

Either that, or make it say to always keep Moss on you.

>>126782050

I'm tired of this fucking meme. Honestly I am. I've fucking had it.

The hitboxes on DkS2's weapons are FINE. FINE. FINE. HOLY SHIT. This game is 2 years old and you stupid motherfuckers are STILL blaming the hitboxes. Katanas hit exactly what they're supposed too. Same goes for thrusting swords. Look at the fucking length and reach of the weapon before you come to /dsg/ and shit the place up.
FUCK.

>>126782391
>using the DkS2 abbreviation anywhere other than reddit

>>126784837
clearly you never faced a havelixodon pre-patch

hitboxes are fine- for PvE... but toss in latency and ADP into the mix, and everything goes to hell once you enter PvP

>>126781949
I started playing today, got invaded once at the Hag merchant, immediatelly after the invasion warning I was told "Blue Phantom Sir Robyn is coming to aid".

I stood by the fire a bit with the blue dude, red dude showed up, they both whacked each other for ~600 damage a pop, leaving both at like 50% health so I rolled behind the red dude and backstabbed him.

Blue phantom gave me a "warcry" gesture before vanishing. I'm still not 100% sure he wasn't an NPC.

>>126785020
It's obviously best written as DkS2, just like DmnS and BloB and DrS1

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Still waiting on that Demon's Souls 2

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>>126784837
I'm tired of this fucking meme. Honestly I am. I've fucking had it.

The hitboxes on DkS2's weapons are SHIT. SHIT. SHIT. GODDAMN.
dont worry, i have more if you still think youre right

>>126785056
there are no blue phantom npcs

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>>126785345
not all of them are the best, especially where a boss with wide swings and an AOE are concerned, but come on. no need to overreact. they aren't that bad. DaS1 had its fair share of stupid hitboxes too at times.

only difference is DaS2 has ADP, which makes retards cry about hitboxes when they didnt level agility

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>>126785304
Or at the very least an HD rerelease. I wanna explore the Northern Limit.

>>126785593

When leveling ADP, is there any indication that my rolls are getting better? The animations seems to look the same and the increasing agility stat doesn't exactly tell me anything.

Is there 144hz support for DkS2SotfS?

I am getting screen tearing like no other.

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>>126785593
im not saying it didnt look at golem or the gargoyles, but ds2 has far more fucked hitboxes and is more annoying and tedious imo
>>126785762
agility increases iframes in rolls at certain points, 20 adp is fine for pve

>>126785762
Boo hoo the game doesn't tell you everything to your face
Go play candy crush or some shit, you are bitching about the series that has had mimics and illusory walls in it.

Did the game ever tell you that rolling would let you through some walls and that hitting others would let you through?
Did the game ever tell you that cutting off a monsters tail would give you a weapon?

You are bitching for the sake of it and its dumb, go to reddit if you want an echochamber

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>>126785762
the only visual indicator is being able to roll without still taking a hit.

ADP is a stupid stat for sure, but it exists. so with base adp, while perfect timing on rolls resulting in a good dodge are still possible, you will more than likely encounter hits you feel you should have dodged.

with higher adp, those decrease and you end up with DaS1 tier roll dodging

there was a breakdown image some guy made on how iframes are tied to agility and rolling, but I dont have it, maybe someone else can post it

>>126785875
>that webm

Looks like the weapons hitbox was behind the shield and somehow hit your back.

>>126786068
High ADP can actually surpass DaS1 rolls if you dump into it for whatever reason. I like that ADP made the backstep actually worth a damn

>>126785875
Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy
Now go facefuck the giants in the gutter with your shield up and whine how they keep magically "piercing" your shield.

Or even go play DS1 and then realize that the black knights thrust attack does the same shit sometimes

>>126786006

wow that's dumb. DeS and DkS didn't have stats like that. Even RES at least told you what your new resistance was gonna be even if it wasn't a good stat.

You're pretty dumb desu.

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>>126785660
>that image

muh dik

>>126786232
Point to me where DaS tells you that cutting of a monsters tail gives you a weapon.
You are bitching for the sake of it, go to reddit

>>126786006

>Dynamic world that changes based on the way you play
>The same as having to look up information on a 3rd party website when you level up a stat

wew

>>126781264
just finished with painted world, didnt kill the goddess.

Only went there because I am playing as a cleric, I want the clothes of the companions of Rhea, but I can only get them late in the game through Patches, and I think I will not lie to him and deny being a cleric, so I may have to kill him.
So, getting the black cleric set was the second best thing possible.

The level felt too random imo. didnt like it that much, although I got a lot of experience for leveling up.

>>126786343

Orange Soapstones.

57th for balder side sword

>>126783971
dark souls 2 is a better game to start out on if you have them all, it's the "worst" of the series so every game you play after is better and it's more casual so you won't get your ass beat in and get bored before you get to actual content in dark souls 1

>>126786343
having solaire lop off a gargoyle tail with a sunlight spear made me try cutting them off

>>126785660
>have all this job making this image
>dont put them in sepia

>>126786170
>that one guy that ran into a frontal attack then turned on a dime and backstepped through it and backstabbed him

always gets me hard

>>126786006

damn nigger I was just asking. SotFS is on sale and it's my first time playing.

maybe you should go back to reddit.

>>126786489
No they didn't, no need to lie.

>>126786365
Go play skyrim I heard people who can't handle everything not being spoonfed to them really like the new iterations of that series.

>>126786068
for some reason hitboxes work in a different way when doing gestures, mimic cant grab you while doing gestures too

>>126786068
How is that a shitty hitbox?

>>126785345
i don't have problems with hitboxes unless i'm playing online

>>126786769

"Try Tail" basically told me to aim for the bridge dragon's tail. And then whoops, here's a free sword.

Why do you think you're so hardcore for playing Dark Souls? It's not that difficult you know. You must have FROM's cock really far up your asshole to defend that stat.

>>126787032
You are acting as if being obtuse is somehow a new thing to the series
You are acting as if things not being told to you is something that people didn't praise the series for

You are being a hypocritical little faggot for the sake of it and even you know it, grow up.

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DeS

I want to collect the last missing trophies. It's better to do that offline because of the world tendency, right?

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>>126786926
the same way this is a Dark Souls 1's infallible perfect hitbox

>>126786317
>>126786661
Ideally, Raime would have his shield instead of the Fume Greatsword, but I can't image well enough to do a better job myself.

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>there are no shields that match the drakeblood set
how the fuck do i be stylin'

>>126787151

It's not being "obtuse", it's bad game design. Sure you can miss an illusory wall, or a method of obtaining a weapon. That's fine and that's part of what makes up all the different ways you can go about completing a stage.

But if you go into DkS2 and you see ADP, there's nothing that tells you that it's basically a REQUIRED stat regardless of your build. If someone wants to go full INT or FTH, why would they think they need ADP especially when leveling it up seems to do absolutely nothing and rolls were never designated to a stat in the previous games. They would have to look it up on the wiki to figure out what the fuck it does, which by itself already classifies it as a bad design decision.

So do you exclusively take FROM's cock up your ass or is it any jap developer you weeb shitter?

>>126787247
easiest thing to do would be to swap his UGS with a shield, then hide the shop-fu with the fact that the image is faded, and flip it over to account for him being left handed. Or, replace the longsword with the shield, and replace the UGS with the longsword...

>>126787541
the shield they normally use works well. But yoiu have to rank up Blues for that.

also any of the drakekeeper shields.

Does anyone know why I won't get invaded or invade someone?
tried townshit burg and woods, nothing.
125 sl

>>126787554
Yeah because fake walls qualag and the abyss ring were totally obvious things, and ash lake was brillant game design despite being piss easy to miss and so too were the darkwraiths
You know why they were great? Because you are being a hypocrite

But clearly the attention of random people on the internet means so much to you, have your last free charity (You), now pick up a dictionary, you retarded fuck.

>>126787692
black/white/red doesn't look well with the blue/gold shield

Seeing all these webms and vanilla DaS2 enemy placements make me think that most of these hitbox issues got fixed in SotFS. Because at 85 agility, I literally never EVER got teleported back into the grab of an ogre.

And for the ''your hitbox stays in place during the roll'' stuff, you can dodge in the face of those giant knights in Heide's Tower of Flame with 85 agility in SotFS and never get hit, even though it should hit your head if your hitbox ''stood in place''.

>>126788137

>Fake Walls
>Orange Signs everywhere

>Covenant of Artorias
>Description reads "It's wearer, like Artorias himself, can traverse the Abyss."

>Ash Lake
>Literally just go left upon reaching Blighttown
I understand you're a complete garbage shitter with no reading comprehension who had to play the game with a walkthrough but not everyone is like you. When I'm forced to look up a guide to understand how a basic game mechanic works, that's bad. You are the definition of a FROM drone and a complete faggot.

>>126788137
I understand what you mean, but those are all optional. you dont NEED to go through ash lake. therefore you dont need to find the illusory walls leading to it.

darkwraiths are not an essential gameplay element, and the abyss ring is something you could easily figure out upon entering the abyss and dying, and by reading the description of the ring, where it doesnt have any special effect but says it allowed artorias to traverse the abyss.

ADP meanwhile, is a basic gameplay mechanic that has to do with your iframes while rolling.

the anon CLEARLY made a distinction between that and missing an illusory wall, which is fine, because thats part of the magic of finding something super secret.

but a basic gameplay element like ADP and agility is NOT explained at all, despite being fairly important

>>126788615
And what if a person is playing offline, or the messages talking about hidden walls aren't there?

And how is a person to know there are TWO hidden walls leading to the great hollow? you'd only get it by going "Well I'll just hit every wall I find"

>>126788615
(You) for the effort of typing that, I know they make you happy, now go away, nobody cares about your retarded views

>>126788827
>"Well I'll just hit every wall I find"
>he's never played DOOM/Duke3D
>hes never played any oldschool rpg where secrets were far more obtuse
>he's never played King's Field

go back to call of duty, seems about your speed, kiddo.

>>126788885

>Butthurt FROM drone in his natural habitat

I thought you were done here? :^)

>>126788827
there's a developer message telling you about the illusory wall after quelaag
Ash lake doesn't get that treatment but it's also far more optional

>>126789040
>far more optional
By what measurement is it "more optional"

>>126789130
Ash Lake is out of the way and a one-way trip down the great hollow whereas the Daughter of Chaos bonfire is a pretty decent warp to have and is on the path to demon ruins/izalith

>>126782447
i was about to install DaS2, but thanks for remind me how much SOTFS sucks, thanks.

>>126788137

I found out about Queelag without looking it up. I just new she was the Witch of Izalith's daughter and re-read the Witch ring on the start of a new game.

If you think shit like that is obtuse don't play any classic point and click game ever.

>>126789130
Not that guy, but the fact that you can complete the entire game without ever knowing about Ash Lake makes it pretty fucking optional.
Meanwhile the Fair Lady isn't REALLY meant to be hidden because there's a developer message in front of the illusory wall, I get the feeling that From wanted us to find the covenant to save Solaire.

>>126789270
You clearly missed the point

Something is either
A) Mandatory (You HAVE to do it to beat the game)
B) Optional (You don't have to do it to beat the game)
There is no middle ground, don't go around reinventing words because of silly internet arguments

>>126789381
>Not that guy, but the fact that you can complete the entire game without ever knowing about Ash Lake makes it pretty fucking optional.
And you can beat the entire game without finding out about the Fair Lady
Whats your nonexistant point again? Regardless refer to >>126789410
Something is either optional or it's mandatory, there is no way to measure how optional something is and YOU are sure as shit are not the arbiter of optinality that gets to declare how optional something is

>>126787168
>I want to collect the last missing trophies
is it really worth it
I mean are you going to tell your grandkids about it. The game is dead, nobody even cares.

>>126789410

The point is Ash Lake, much like everything here >>126788137 is optional and thus can be "hidden" as much as the devs intend.

Treating a basic stat like ADP even more secretive than optional shit is stupid.

>>126788305
king's shield

>>126789658
>abyss ring is optional
Well then glad we have established that you didn't even play DS1

is there a way to get infinite poise from that CE script for SOTFS?
I just want to ayylmao through the game for lore items and shit

>>126790040
That's a pretty roundabout way of using CE to get items.

>>126788305

Uh

On the battlefield, you don't match, you clash.

/fa/ggot

>>126789898

The abyss ring is the most transparent thing in that list. You read the ring you immediately get off killing Sif that tells you wearing it lets you walk in the area you can't pass.

Legit question, do you have autism or any form of aspergers?

>>126790174
And the backtracking begins
Anon I don't care what excuses you come up with you are clearly not at all familiar with the series after saying something as dumb as "the abyss ring is optional", all you have done so far is try and change the word "optional" to mean something it doesn't and then be flat out wrong about whats in the games.

Nice to see that we can shitpost without 4kings anon being here

shit lucatiel literally disappeared from my save and the summon to smelter isnt there

>>126786006
Man, those comparisons were terrible.
You try to cut a tail, it's cut, there's a big white firework and you get an item.
You hit a door, it disappears, boom you know you had a hidden wall.
You open a chest, it eats you, now you know about mimics.

You level ADP, you roll and... ?
Either you call a friend to do some iframe data mining yourself, or you go to a wiki, because you sure as hell aren't going to determine the iframe scaling by rolling a couple times.

>>126790446

Sorry. If I had said optional like "most things" rather than generalized what straw would you have poorly grasped onto then?

For someone who seems to enjoy pretending to discover aspects about the game, you sure as fuck aren't bright enough to see what the point is.

>>126790749
I'm sorry if me pointing out the meaning of words has somehow upset you, but you really shouldn't use words you don't understand.

>>126790879

>Holding on to grammar mistakes to avoid admitting you were wrong

It's like I somehow stepped into reddit.

>>126790726
Yes we get it anything other than action reaction is too complex for your neanderthal brain to understand.

>>126791663
>I'm smart because I can read wikis

>>126791763
I'm sure as shit smarter than someone who literally thinks that anything that is not directly explained or shown to them is too complex.
But you are an actual retard, no need to feel bad about it

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Roll

>>126791881
>enormous flame wave misses the giant tree

that's exactly how the game is desu

fucking hitboxes

>>126791663

Nigga it was your comparison. How the fuck is hitting a wall the same as having to test frame data with no cues to the fact. Like what mental gymnastics do you pull to come to that conclusion.

Sterilize yourself.

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>>126790726
>You open a chest, it eats you, now you know about mimics.
or you could just, you know, question the out of place chest in sen's fortress sitting in an odd way in the middle of the room, and notice that it looks different than other chests.

or upon looking closely, noticing that it is breathing

>You level ADP, you roll and... ?
you aee your agility stat go up, and start noticing your rolls are more effective at dodging attacks, instead of taking damage from an attack mid roll.

much like in DaS1, when you level strength, you notice your attack damage starts going up and suddenly enemies die in 2 hits as opposed to 3.

anon pls. not everything is about bright flashy lights and super visual indicators in Dark Souls.

Just got the first game on steam sale finally. The Drake sword isn't cutting it anymore and anor londo is kicking my ass. Are there better weapons?

>>126791910
>yes, I actually think I'm smart because I can read wikis
Jesus Christ, I didn't imagine you would opine

>>126792096
Roll

Was patches right? Are clerics scum?

>>126792231
silver knight sword is nice, but needs twinkling titanite.

Claymore is a classic too.

Zweihander is nice for stunlocking everything, and you get it super early.

>>126792184
>much like in DaS1, when you level strength
You get a nice blue number that gets bigger in your character sheet.
Any other dumb comparisons?

Also you should simply dodge more attacks because you get better at the game. Mind enlightening us on what was your method to determine your higher success was due to leveling ADP and not just you learning timings?
Oh who am I kidding, you read in on a wiki or reddit.

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Couldn't refund this game because I spent 5 hours trying to configure these shitty key binds instead of 2 hours.

Made this though; I tried.

>>126792380
well the ones you encounter sure were, so... kinda?

>>126783948
Do you still need help? And are you on vanilla? I can't play scholar becuz muh pc

>>126792485
You should probably go back to /tesg/ if you spend most of your time making barbie doll waifus instead of playing the game.
Also get a controller nigger.

>>126791927
1488

>>126791881
What is this?

>>126792184
>and start noticing your rolls are more effective at dodging attacks
but thats wrong
assuming youre playing warrior, you dont get another iframe until you have 12 adp (90agi)
you wouldnt notice your rolls getting better because youd still have the same roll, and youd think you were just wasting levels

fuck nashandra is so cheap and boring

>>126792184

How do you know your roll is more effective and you didn't just time it better?

How do you know about the soft caps to get more frames?

It's not about being flashy at all. Coming from fighting games it's an absolute necessity to know your character and the character your fighting against's frame date. But those games have indicators attached to the moves that imply your character is open, such as the lag time after shooting a fireball with Ryu.

Or you know, slow/mid/fast rolls.

>>126792607
Looks like I triggered you. Anyways, it's called cosplay you plebeian mouthbreather.

>>126792810
Cosplay of what, an alien?

>>126792485
She looks kinda like Butthead.

>>126792859
Every character ever made looks like alien, so I'd guess so, retard.

>>126792798
>How do you know about the soft caps to get more frames?
There aren't any for ADP.

>>126792926
Let's see your creation.

>>126792935
You're awfully defensive and acting too big for your britches as a waifufag. I don't think this general, nay, this game series, is for you.

Dark Souls 3 will be _______.

>>126792939
yes there are you dumb nigger
32 adp gives 13 iframes
you dont get another until 85

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>>126792425
>You get a nice blue number that gets bigger in your character sheet.

anon.
anon.
pls.


you get one of those with adp too... it's called agility. And it's description says "boosts ease of evasion"

>>126793112
pretty neat

>>126793054
See:
>>126792935

Bit of a hypocrite aren't we?

>>126792709
its tekken. they're making it friendlier for casuals

>>126793081
Yeah I'm the defensive one here shilling for DS2...I made that because I'm bored in less than 5 minutes, beat the game before, and I have no intention of playing a dumpster trash game.

>>126793321
>shilling for DS2
What the fuck are you on about?

>dumpster trash game
Why are you even here then?

I think you should go to bed, you seem a bit tired and cranky.

>>126792607
>if you spend most of your time making barbie doll waifus instead of playing the game.
where do you think you are?

>>126793242
>you get one of those with adp too
Which tells you nothing you idiot.
I'm talking about the increase to your weapon AR.
Agility by itself means nothing.

>And it's description says "boosts ease of evasion"
Which could mean dozens of things. You've finished to convinced me you made absolutely no effort to determine what ADP was by yourself when the game came out and just ate what was handed to you on a wiki platter. Otherwise you would realize there were plenty of possible explanations.

>>126793458
I'm in /dsg/, not /tesg/.

>>126793264
How is hypocritical to admit fictional characters almost always look like aliens?

>>126793426
I said I wanted to refund the game and that apparently triggered your shilling mode and made you mad enough to reply and call me a nigger, lmao.

>>126793486
It's okay anon, you'll understand one day

>>126793486
now you're just moving goalposts.

evasion is literally 1 thing. dodging attacks.

>>126793560
I hope you see through your autism and understand how ridiculous you sound one day.

i cant stop dying to nashandra, this fight is so shit that i cant pay attention on it

>>126793551
>implying /dsg/ is any different

>>126793653
Yeah because it's not autism to call someone a nigger because they don't like the same shitty games as you.

>>126793625
>now you're just moving goalposts.
No, perhaps you would like some assistance?

>evasion is literally 1 thing. dodging attacks.
Which could be a dozen different things from what it is, namely a set number of iframes independent of equip load with a softcap and a floor value.

>>126793748
You sure are mad. You even keep replying instantly!

Everyone laugh at this retard for not being able to get a refund because he's bad at the game, LOL.

>>126793831
>le git gud

Welcome to /dsg/ I guess.

>>126793831
>>126793748
kek is what what you two were arguing about? what a retarded nigger.

>>126782447
>barely get 20% of the way through before my weapon is at risk because there's Varangians out the ass
are you using a katana or do you not upgrade your weapons? bring some repair powder man

>>126793979
>is what what you
Hello nigger.

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Have enough of the guilty paid the price?
This was my only goal for this character.

>>126790173
you're probably the kind of guy that wears havel's mixed with drangleic or some shit
sorry you lack a fashion sense, get well soon

>ADP conversation for the xth time

It's a shit stat in a shit game. We get it.

>>126794437
You are a neanderthal, we got it.

>>126794564

drone drone go away shill again another day

i have 20 dollary doos do i buy ds1 prepare to die edition and other shit or ds2 and scholar of first sin?

>>126794805

DS1

>>126794805
buy dark souls 1
play dark souls 1
come back when you've finished
don't do anything else until you've finished

>>126794805
>ds1
connectivity is a mess even with mods
everyone hacks in some form
pvp is a joke
pve is solid
>ds2
connectivity is a breeze
almost everyone hacks in some form
pvp is a joke
pve is also a joke

>>126794987
>ds1
>pvp is a joke
git gud

>ds2
>almost everyone hacks in some form
speak for yourself, pleb

>>126794958
>>126794972
>>126794987
i've made my choice. thanks friends. ds1 does look fun too.

>>126794987
Spotted the ds2 shill

>>126795126
pvp is really only bad when you're waiting for nodes and there's serious latency
bs stabs are whatever,
what really irks me is when i die to a demon's greataxe a solid two dodge rolls after it hits on my screen

Why isn't Bloodborne a part of this general?

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>>126795358
try again

>>126795586
a)it's not a souls game (technically)
b)it clutters too much of the discussion

>>126795586
It's in a class of its own.

>>126795586

Souls shitposting drove them away.

>>126795586
because 2/3 of the fanbase can't play it so they shitpost instead.

>>126795586
>tfw we're basically getting bloodborne with DS3

>>126795586
sonyggers starting shitflinging when it came out because muh exclusives
everyone else started shitflinging back because ds1 was an exclusive and now isnt
they fucked off and made their own general

Am I a bad person for enjoying making phantoms go through a Throne Watcher/Defender, Nashandra, and Aldia gauntlet?

>>126796038
>>126796210
desu i'd probably be on bbg now if i didn't have to pay 15 bucks a month for a service i don't want just so I can continue to enjoy the game.

>>126781264
>Is there a canon-lore reasons why I should kill the godess? I dont really like people unnecessarily.

There is literally no reason to kill her. Her land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.

If you kill her, you're basically just the worst person.

>>126796675
>if i didn't have to pay 15 bucks a month
Now you have to pay for that? Lol I remember how much sonyfags shitposted xboxfags about that.

>>126796675
does t b h really go to desu?
that's depressing.
how long has it done that?

>>126796735
i don't really see them as gods though, more like privileged motherfuckers who got lucky or their parents got lucky

>>126796675
>liking bb pvp
How? Are there some secret no healing no gems fight clubs that I don't know about? I can't enjoy it unless I can CE myself a build.

>>126796952
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD
I NEVER HAD PS+

>>126796862
>that's depressing.
How so, senpai?

>>126796675
i borrowed a ps4 off a friend and bought a 2month ps+ card

well worth it
the bloodborne dlc was GOAT

>>126797008
i played it once at gamestop
it alternated between piss easy and nut crushingly hard rather quickly

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>do an input
>get interrupted by an attack
>character still does the input after getting out of stunlock

FUCKING CHRIST WHY IS THIS A THING I'VE DIED SO MANY TIMES BECAUSE OF IT FROM ROLLING OFF EDGES OR LEAVING MYSELF OPEN BECAUSE PARRY

what was that nashandra we met in the throne?i thought it was a illusion like gwynevere but it disappeared after i killed the last boss

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>>126785593
>DaS1 had its fair share of stupid hitboxes too at times.
The problem is when "at times" in one game becomes "very often" in the other

>>126781949
So really, the only way to get Targray's set is to kill him?

>>126797370
this "DS1 its a rare bug DS2 its common" meme is even dumber than the "everyone is a dude in armor"

>>126797454
>backup save
>kill him
>trade armor to a friend
>revert save
>they give it back

>>126797370
Did you just get raped?

>>126797370
I was never bothered by the mimic hotbox...

Im used to old games where the entire area surrounding an enemy like that is a danger zone.

>>126797542
its not a meme its true
specially the grab attacks, i was playing right now and i was teleported to grab attack zilions of times

>>126796392
That happened to me once, it's how I found out who the spoopy fire-tree man was. It was still fun.

>>126797621
>its not a meme its true
Sure its not, thats what they said about the dudes in armor thing too.

You are a retard and thats the end of that

>>126791927
Roll

The recommended ADP minimum is 21, right?

>>126797813
depends on your att too
and pve or pvp?

>>126797708
but most of bosses in ds2 are dudes in armor, you are the retard here, is not everyone memeing, they are just saying the truth about the game, stop being delusional and grow up, retard

>>126797708
Shouldn't FROM spend money on not making DS3 a piece of shit instead of paying shills to defend the last Souls abortion?

>>126797951
PvE, doing a paladin build. I adore the Heide Knight Armor.

>>126798117
I roll with 95 agi because I'm a memester

>>126798117
99 agi gets you 12
you don't need more

Why would you ever use a longsword that isn't the Black Dragon Sword?

>>126797621
grab attacks mostly look silly because you get teleported for the synced animation to play. DaS 1 had the same problem when enemies used a grab attack.

>>126798295
because fume is better?

>>126797980
>but most of bosses in ds2 are dudes in armor
See
You don't even own the game, you literally just parrot memes you heard.

>>126798295
why would you ever use dragon weapons?
they dont scale and have shit movesets

>>126792485
Those brows.

>>126798426
>split damage
>>126798610
BDS is the only one worth using.

>>126798836
>split damage
>implying split damage is bad

>>126796392
I did that on my first, blind play through. The funny thing was that I rolled off the platform with aldia at 40%

Do phantoms get anything for helping with aldia only?

I fucking wish we never allowed DkS2 in this general.

>>126799207
Maybe the general will be good again when DaS3 comes out.

>>126798891
But it is, especially if your opponent is smart enough to swap shields.

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>>126797542
>DS1 its a rare bug DS2 its common
This is a meme you DaS2fags invented.

Usually when comparing both games, people find in DaS2 more instances of bad coded bullshit and retarded lore than in the first one, so it's only natural people complain more about those in DaS2. Then you DaS2fags developed a defense mechanism: use DaS1 as a shield to derail the topic of the problems in DaS2 by pretending the complainer think DaS1 has NO problems whatsoever, which is simply ridiculous and not true, since it still has 4kings and instabackstabs. However, even with those flaws, DaS1 is an overall better designed gamethan the sequel; that's why the majority of /dsg/ prefers it over the second one

>>126799345
Yes yes I am very impressed with your ability to nitpick and go "LALA DOESN'T COUNT", really I am but shut it.

>>126799345
>instabackstabs
>problem
Ha.

>>126799276
People will have new things to talk about instead of getting into slap fights over dumb shit.

>>126799340
Nobody uses shields except scrubs or DaS1 tryhards

>>126799465
The game actually being good, unlike DaS2, should help too.

>>126799569
It's Dark Souls "3", it's gonna be shit

>>126799567
Not using a shield in DkS2 pvp is a huge disadvantage because, unlike in DkS1 pvp, you can't avoid all damage by being good at rolling.

>>126799734
The memes jack

>>126799443
the fuck?

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>>126799841

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>>126798440
here since you don't know simple math

>>126798891
split is nowhere near as bad as in ds1

if you honestly think fume won't shit all over bds then you're a retard

>>126799202

No. It's just an opportunity to get blown off the platform and not get their token.

>>126799696
Are you trying to imply that people hate on the mess that DkS2 is just because it was the second instalment in the series? If so then fuck off.

Can't wait for DkS3 to come out so that we can merge with BB general and live in peace while forcing DkS2 drones fuck out of here into their own general.

>>126799959
Dudes in armor 14
Total bosses 40+
Most means more than 50%

The end

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>>126799959
>counting the Queens as dudes

>>126800020
Protip, everyone that plays das2 will play das3, unlike das1 drones who are inept at everything, people who switched to das2 can adapt.

>>126791881
If only the possessed armor sword had this 2HL2.

>>126800085
these weird things arent women

Rate and give tips on my fashion /dsg/?

Also when do you think I should do the DLC? I'm at the crypt right now.

>>126800085
Whats more hilarious is that he counts Aldia into the "dude" category.
Someone was REALLY upset when they made this

>>126800262
pretty good

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>>126800262
Whoops

>>126800146
because they leveled adp :^)

>>126800394
>killing Melentia
you brute

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>>126800350
>implying every ''not dude in armor'' aren't horrible ''bosses'' and the only good bosses in ds2 are ''dudes in armor''

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>>126800401
holy fuck
this guy is STILL here?

it's been literally YEARS
i honestly hope this isn't a bot, but rather an incredibly elaborate joke.

>>126800146
Someone's upset

>>126800405
Most likely.

>>126800641
Yeah, this guy >>126800020

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>>126800547
aren't*
i'm going to sleep
every boss that is not a dude in armor in ds2 sucks

>>126800601
if it's not a bot then it's just maximal autism

>>126800659
>11 months and he still can't beat 4 kings

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>>126800452
Nah she's safe and sound. She's was just to the left of the pic

Anyone want to help me with Duke's Dear Freja NG+ so I can get the MLGS?

SM 844K, PS4

>>126800547
>aldia is a dude in armor
I get it anon, you listened to memes first then realized they weren't true shit happens, just go bitch about something subjective next time and don't make a retarded list like that
lmao aldia is a dude in armor for sure

>Roll Archer from some roll thread

So I ran like a bitch to get the Composite Bow, is that gonna be my main thing for the rest of the game? Or are greatbows potentially good once I can afford arrows?

>>126800725
I agree. I've played bloodborne the whole day today and those huge ass bosses that do nothing but flail around and fuck up your camera angles are the WORST.

>>126800778
use a torch and the boss is a joke

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>>126800803
aldia was a dude

Whats the good place to get summoned for someone with soulmemory 1200000?
Am I kind of overleveled, I just got to shrine of amana. Havent even farmed at all.

>>126799975
>split is nowhere near as bad as in ds1
I agree, but it's still worse than just one damage type especially if someone ring swaps to counter you.

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i didn't even get the invasion message

>>126800778
man I would but Tseldora spoops me too hard
mild arachnophobia or something
first time I ran through I basically had to walk down the webbing with my eyes half closed

>>126800930
I just hate this faggot "anon", it's that everything about it starting from faggot whining to terrible shitposting makes me fucking vomit. It's not an "anon", it's just the biggest failure at an attempt to make an anon, in the entire history of 4chan.

>>126800972
m8 go look at aldias fight, if you count him as a dude then you have to count literally every boss in the entire series and you know it.

>>126801052
It really is unsettling, especially how eerily still the inactive spiders are. The first time they introduced the spiders in Tseldora, I was frightened because of how they just sit there on a wall and do nothing like real spiders

>>126800847
there is a boss in ds2, i think its unborn, like what the hell is that shit, is a lot of warms and legs moving around, its not even fun ''fighting'' that

>>126801051
this npc invades me each 3 minutes

>>126801108
didnt saw it yet :^)

>>126781037
The helmet is nice though.

>>126801182
The One Reborn? Is that what you meant?

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>>126801182
i mean bloodborne, shit i need to sleep

Anyone still playing this on PS3?

>>126799567

That's a lot of salt

>>126800848
It's getting to the boss that's the hard part

>>126801513
Anon, please. We get it, we really get it. You don't have to post this every thread anymore. It will be okay.

>>126801574

Use a torch and enjoy scared spiders then. makes both the way to the boss as well as the boss itself easy mode.

>>126801182
i just ate a beast blood pellet and used bolt paper and mashed r1 until it died, good design

>>126801354
I forgot to say that DaS1 tryhards and scrubs are one and the same.
No matter, using a shield requires lock on, and if you're locked on, you're slower, which means free backstabs. That's why most people who uses shields, also use jesters, they need a crutch to hold the other crutch.

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>>126801684
Anon, you copy / paste this every thread. I understand your frustrations with the boss, I really do, but the game is already out, and it's not going to be removed. Lay your woes to rest and move on, for the good of all that is Humanity.

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Why is this happening? Everytime I climb down a ladder in DaSI on PC I'm falling through the world. I closed the game, same shit. Help.

>>126801718
>Bolt paper on a beast monster

For what purpose?

>>126801667
There are phantoms and that annoying spider hybrid that blocks the ladder in the way

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>>126801881
Maybe he didn't have fire.

>>126801868
60fps does that sometimes

You can also sometimes get "stuck" at a bonfire if you try to exit out too fast

>>126801868
Press backspace to lock your framerate back to 30 fps, and once you're off the ladder press it again to toggle 60 fps.

>>126801976
>Not having enough eyes to prepare for all types of enemies

I pity your beastly intelligence anon

Demon's Souls 60 fps 1080p+ when.

>>126802087
It is my first playthrough.

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>>126802087
Also I wasn't that anon, anon.

>>126801828
you don't need to lock on when using a shield

>>126802247
Do you have the DLC? If not enjoy the nightmare

>>126802312
oops

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>>126801684
Man, just into pyromancy and Great Combustion their ass.

>>126802392
You need to use it effectively, the block radius is not that great.

>>126802425
Gonna buy it tomorrow.

>>126801828
>dks2
>free backstabs
You have to be pretty bad to get backstabbed because you're locked on, outlier kind of bad.

>>126802595
pivot stabbing in this game is kind of nuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgKz7NQbWV8

Yes! I got the soul I need to buy the MLGS now

You were right, the boss was easy modo with the torch. Though getting to her was a nightmare

>>126802735
This is preventable while locked on by not being so predictable. Also, as a general rule of thumb, you should always try to be the person reacting, initiating in DkS2 might as well be asking to lose.

>>126802592

you use block as a reaction to an enemy attack

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>>126791881

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>>126802765
Reminder that some bosses have really nice Feet

>>126803559
>you will never make 1/4 dragon babies with Priscilla

>>126803712
>>126803605
>>126803170
>peepee poosting

>>126803712
Capra Demon. Uncheesed.

Or if we're going purely by frustration caused, Ornstein and Smough when killing Ornstein last.

is it just me or is the Undead Crypt absurdly long
maybe it's just the retarded infinite respawns but holy fuck it just keeps on going

>>126804389
It's pretty short actually. Shrine of Amana is absurdly long though.

>>126804389
If you explore, yeah. Otherwise you just run past some chicks, break some rocks, get past the imperious knights, sprint to the exit of the fuckbox room, open shortcut, kill dude beneath stairs, run to boss

>>126802763
Now you just have to burn an ascetic, kill the spider again and get the crystal soul spear.

>>126804418
Everyone fucking knows that, thats why we're ignoring her/him/them/zer/xir.

Did the sale bring in a lot of Russians and Asians to Scholar or could I be soft banned if I'm only matching up with them?

>>126804881
Дa.

>>126805170
You could always join us in /bbg/.

>>126802398
The fight itself isn't even that bad. I don't know why it gets all the pointless hate.

>>126805584
No.

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>>126805407
>>126805281
Just when I thought /dsg/ has become too serious with des, das and das2 discussions, this fucking joke comes back. My fucking sides.

>>126805662
Pretty please?

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>half of the thread's content is one anon 4kings-shitposting
Dear lord...

>>126805710
I will exist until negative emotions no longer exist in mankind.

>>126805705
Well, that just seems rude.

>>126805832
A few days ago cass was laughing at your expense on stream. That's how pathetic you are.

>>126805905
Who?

>>126806010
some fag who is more relevant and actually a better player than you. Don't get me wrong, though, you're both trash.

i'm getting my ass utterly destroyed by demon's souls despite playing through das1 and 2 and bb like 50 times.

this is making me really mad. fuck shrine of storms.

>>126806095
If he was more relevant than me, why is he dwelling on me when I don't even know who he is?

>>126806128
I cleared that entire area on a lvl 1 character, get good. Learn to use a shield.

>>126806191
You're so pathetic it's easy to use you as a pedestal.

>>126806128
I don't recall that area being particularly tough. What is getting you?

>>126806271
How is it bad at all.

>>126806284
That doesn't even make sense, kiddo.

>>126799959
>Flexile and sinner
>dudes in armor

sure flexile has SOME armor, but does that really count when hes still like 51% bare lizard?

also im pretty sure Smelter counts as a dude in armor if hes basically just a dude OF armor

>bosses from star wars
mild chuckle

>>126806367
i'm more baffled that he put cool ranch smelter as not a dude in armor lmao

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This is all so fucking pathetic

I'm gonna go to bed and try to forget what I have seen here.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z6V1U_mYekc

After all these years no one bother to upload this gesture/animation from Dark Souls? Have I been searching for the wrong keys?

I know it's pointless but my autism won't let me NOT do anything about it so I uploaded it myself

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I think I have finally settled on an armor combination that I like for this dex character.

>This is my first dex character in DS2 in over 200 hours play time, I've made every other kind of character twice or more by now

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>>126808301
And the back.

The sorceress hood goes with it pretty well in my opinion.

Can i leave the darkwraiths to join the gravelords with no penalty?

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Did you manage to stay away from the DaS1 / DaS2 / Bloodborne early streams?

Are you going to make an actual effort to abandon this place when streams start popping up?

lads should i buy a ps3 just for demons souls

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>>126808636
I haven't even been watching the network test videos that are all over youtube.

I'm actually hype for DaS3 I don't care what anybody says. The ONLY thing I'm disliking is that they changed spells from charges-per-spell to MANA BAR. Fuck. Why fix what wasn't broken?

>>126808709
Cuz there's nothing wrong with mana bar either?

And most rpgs use a mana bar?

Didn't Demons Souls use a mana bar?

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>Enjoyed DeS
>Enjoyed DaS
>Kinda enjoyed DaS2
>Can't justify purchasing a console for Bloodborne, which I would also likely enjoy
Man, this blows.

>>126808942
It'll come out for PC eventually. Just like Dark Souls did.

Even if it's a shitty port, it'll get fixed by some smart asshole eventually.

>>126808942
It is completely worth buying a PS4 though, especially if you plan on buying a console.

>>126808990
DeS and BB will never come to PC because they are owned by Sony.

>>126808942
same here, except i didn't like dark souls 2
bloodborne looks really good but i'll wait before buying a ps4